Terrace JRP Summary

7/31/2019 Terrace JRP Summary

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For many reasons we do not wish to see Enbridge oil line across the lands o waters and habitat tosheries. What Im talking about here, in the watershed here is all the spawning habitats going on right

now. I make my living o sheries, as we said back then. Now, some o these are some o the reasonsthat get our tribe worried, concerned. Te oil tankers on the coast have much risk. We have all the risk.Ill just go -- some o the examples, just since January 12th, the ood chain that has happened already.Its one o the major things that has happened already. Since you were here starting February 1st, the

eulachon run had come all up and down the coast. Ours was February 21st, it ran or a month. Tat oneis done. Te herring spawn has just nished just about a month ago. Teres still -- theres some o theherring spawn down the coast by Gomas (ph) and down Lax Kwalaams way; that is still there yet. And

this weekend and or the past two weeks, were engaged in harvest -- seaweed harvest. And thats thesea prunes -- you remember what I was talking about, and the abalone goes around there, too, and allthe other things in that habitat. Tats whats happening right now. And the clams that were going on

when you were here in January 12th; the salmon is just about coming in. So these are just some o theconcerns that as our tribe -- some o the acts that were concerned about at the risk here, absorbing allthe risk that theyre going to possibly harm all this.

Chief Don Roberts, Kitsumkalum Band

I am rom Scotland, and or a time lived beside a salmon river, the River Dee. Te River Dee runs -- thevalley the River Dee runs through is known as Royal Dee Side, as Balmoral Castle is in the valley. Te

Dee rises in the Cairngorm Mountains and ows out to the North Sea through Aberdeen. Te RiverDee is not as prolic a salmon river as the Skeena, but it is also internationally amous or salmonshing. o sh on the Dee, you pay per rod per day, and it is expensive. Te Dee is divided into stretches

or beats, and these are privately owned. I distinctly remember in the 1960s beats being sold or sixgures, pounds, mind you, or only a ew miles. Here we have the Skeena, also a world-renownedsalmon shing river, with a dierent type o splendour, a rugged splendour. And apart rom a shinglicence, you are ree to sh the length o the river in season. No one in their right mind would considerrunning pipelines as the proposed Northern Gateway through or beside the River Dee, yet here we are

considering just that very thing or the Skeena and her tributaries.

Ken Beddie

Joint Review Panel Hearings

Terrace, B.C. May 7-9, 2012

Te National Energy Boards Joint Review Panel (JRP) community hearings began inerrace on May 7, 2012. In an attempt to provide you with a sense of what is beingsaid at these hearings, we have selected excerpts from some of those presentationsand will continue to do so through to the end of the hearings in July. For those of youwishing to read the complete text of a statement, it is available on the JRP website:gatewaypanel.review-examen.gc.ca/clf-nsi/prtcptngprcss/hrng-eng.html


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Im really upset about the possibility o system errors related to the pipeline. Tese errors are much

more common when money issues or ideology or plain old saving ace trump science and engineering.

Tis is occurring at the moment. Te government doesnt want to hear valid objection, muzzles itsown scientists at conerences or inquiries and brands objectors as terrorists or un-Canadian. Canadianjournalists have gotten international awards or exposing this.

Dr. Patrick Butler

So we created a program called Youth on Water. And itll be theourth year o this program. And we will have hundreds o youngpeople by the end o this ourth year who have come with us andtravelled on these dierent rivers, rivers o the Skeena watershed.

So Im talking about the Bulkley. Im talking about the elkwa.

Im talking about the Zymoetz or the Copper River. Im talkingabout Kitsumkalum River, the Skeena River, all o these magical

and spectacular rivers. Teres a risk with this pipeline, and Imnervous that these young people wont have the opportunity todo what Ive done. I this pipeline goes through, and there is aspill or a leak which I think is a statistical probability, they will

not be able to share with their children and grandchildren theopportunities that Ive been able to share with them. Like I said,this is one o the last great wild salmon ecosystems in the world.We cant risk taking away that right that uture generations

have to see those bears and those eagles eeding on salmonand to watch caribou come down to the river. Tis is -- thats an

opportunity that isnt mine to choose to give away or the sake omoney.

Christopher Gee

Lets look at this pipeline rom a dierent angle, rom a purely economic point o view. I the aim isto make as much prot or Canada as possible, then were also going about it all wrong. Te reason weare shipping this oil out o Canada is that we apparently lack the inrastructure to rene it here. I havea hard time believing that $5.5 billion would not buy enough o that inrastructure to at least get us

started. Imagine the prots i Canada became an oil-rening nation. In the long-term that would makeus ar more money than we would ever get by piping raw crude away rom here as ast as we can. No

matter how I ponder this pipeline, it seems like a concerted eort to ail completely and utterly to thinkin the long-term. It looks like the stakeholders in this undertaking clearly do not think about the healtho our country, not its human population, never mind any other creatures. Tey also clearly do notconsider about long-term prots.

Inke Giannelia


3/18

It took Mother Earth over two billion years to reach the maturity

that she had so that she could sustain us and its only taking manless than 100 years to take that all away rom her.

Not only have the warning signs been given to us by Mother

Earth hersel but many scientists have been attempting to warnthe world. Just a year ago a group o scientists approached theUnited Nations to warn them o the conditions o the oceans;that i we dont stop what we are doing, overshing, polluting

with garbage and human waste and oil spills, there is not muchchance or those oceans to survive. Tey are in such seriouscondition. Dr. David Suzuki has warned us on many occasionsthat i we dont change our practices, stop all the polluting and

extraction o all o the orest, minerals and ossil uels takingplace throughout the globe, man may have very little time let onthis planet.

Aaron Greycloud

Were told that potential spills will be treated with state-o-

the-art technology, yet the technology that was used in Valdezin 1989 is essentially the same technology thats used today inoil spills, disperse, skim and burn. Burning depends on goodweather, yet the proposed tanker route has some o the worst

weather in the world. Were told the clean-up o 20 percent oan oil spill is considered a success, with 80 percent remaining topoison wildlie and lie generations beneath gravel beaches.

Anne Hill

I am not unded by any group or individual to speak at this hearing. I came here o my own accord

because I think its important to protect this part o the world that I have made my home. I am neithera radical nor an enemy o the country, as has been implied by critics o those who oppose us. As a highschool social studies teacher, I nd it quite alarming to be labelled such things merely because I have

asked questions and have come to my own conclusion that this project is not, and I quote, an urgentmatter o Canadas national interest, but, rather, a direct threat to the Pacic Northwest.

Greer Kaiser


4/18

Skeena Valley Expeditions employs about 20 people in the

middle o the season, on -- in a busy season, and so theres a bit oemployment or people. You know, its a small company, but thereis work there or local people in the ecotourism industry just

based out o errace.

And obviously we take people down these rivers and manyo these rivers that I mentioned are directly aected by thisproposed pipeline, and the areas that we access, that we can

access by road, are just a very small part o these rivers. Andthese -- the proposed location or these pipelines to cross the

headwaters o some o these rivers, theres no way that they couldget there and stop a leak; its impossible. And it would result in

destroying this beautiul river and almost, you know, a good largepart o the Skeena River itsel, and that would, you know, makeit impossible to take people down and enjoy these canyons and

whitewater and these rivers.

Jupiter MacDonald

I absolutely categorically object to China being involved in this project. Teir human rights recordsand their environmental records should not be condoned and are seen to be condoned by Canada and

Canadians i we allow their involvement. I believe that the planets people must become less reliant onossil uels due to the catastrophic and certain eects o climate change. Sadly, I am no longer proud to

be a Canadian due to our governments negative stand on climate change our world reputation is sadlytarnished and this project, i approved, will urther tarnish it.

Terry Walker

Between 1999 and 2010, Enbridge oil and gas operations has had 804 spills, totalling over threemillion gallons o oil. Some o these spills occurred in areas with no particularly challenging topography,

nor were they in remote areas. Also, more than a ew o these spills occurred ater the company hadbeen warned o possible issues with equipment.

Richard Clair


5/18

Te risk borne by individuals in northwest B.C. ar exceeds thebenets. I also eel strongly that the proposed project is not inCanadas national interest. In any discussion o a nite, non-

renewable resource, we must consider generational equity. Woulduture generations o Albertans, British Columbians, Canadians,i they could speak to us today, would they give their approval to

the proposed project? Is rapid tar sands extraction, pumped andshipped west and sold to China, in their interest? Is this reallythe preerred alternative? Is this our most viable option? Weshould be considering alternatives to the proposed project. We

should consider other markets and other routes to market. Weshould consider rening tar sands bitumen in Canada. We shouldconsider alleviating domestic dependence on oreign energysources beore exporting. We should consider using Canadian oil

revenues to und development o new renewable energy sources,

to und research development and deployment o carbon captureand sequestration technology and to invest in uture generations

who otherwise do not directly benet rom current developmento nite, non-renewable resources. And yes, we should considerthe merits o leaving it in the ground.

Matt Beedle

Id like to comment on the operational liespan or the twopipelines depending upon the rate o oil consumption in the

world which could be or one generation, 33 years, or it could be

or two generations, or 66 years. Either scenario is a speck intime. What will happen to those two pipelines in that sensitive

environment when the inevitable day arrives when theres no oilto transport? Will the pipelines be uprooted and disposed o?Not likely, because the cost would be staggering and the damageequally so. It is assumed that the pipe will stay in the ground and

eventually corrode causing sinkholes and other environmentalimpacts. What the eventual outcome will be is anyones guess.Its unlikely that Enbridge or any other corporation in their placewill be accountable 75 or 100 years rom now. Is there going to

be a posted bond or an absolute ironclad nancial arrangement

o money or insurance that cannot be touched or disappear intosome black hole leaving the taxpayer responsible or whatever

happens and to pick up the tab on reclamation and rehabilitationcosts associated with the derelict pipelines.

Jim Culp


6/18

Anyway, Enbridge claims within the application that they prettywell write-o condensate as a threat because it says 60 percent

will evaporate in six hours. And that may well be quite true, butwhat is the product o that evaporation, and I wonder where doesthe other 40 percent go. Anyway, consulting the MSDS (MaterielSaety Data Sheet) or condensate by Vero Energy Incorporated o

Calgary, the very rst part below the header and the title states:

Emergency Overview: Te liquid product is highly ammable.May contain benzene, a proven human carcinogen. Vapours

are heavier than air and may travel considerable distances to asource o ignition and ash back. Vapours may spread along theground and may enter sewers, basements and other connedspaces. Ten it goes on to discuss inhalation: Potential eects

target the central nervous system, liver and kidneys. Inhalationmay cause headaches, loss o appetite, drowsiness, nausea andvomiting, loss o consciousness, and even death. Te benzenecomponent is a known human carcinogen that may result in

aplastic anemia and leukemia. Its rare in my experience to seethat many death threats in one MSDS. Further research tellsus that the vapour density is 3.4; 3.4 times heavier than air. Its

interesting that chlorine gas, a chemical agent that was used inWorld War I, the notorious gas attacks, it has a vapour density o2.5. Tat property was valued as that gas also sank and persistedin trenches.

Brian Kean

Now, you can imagine being a shing guide on the upper

Morice River, which is one o the destination rivers in the world,a beautiul place, where sh rise to dry ies. Its sought aterby all the steelheaders in the world. People come rom Japan,

rom Germany, to sh or those sh. And youre guiding there.Maybe somebody is rom say Germany or Japan, and he asksyou, Whats that big pipe running down the river? And you say,Well, thats an oil pipeline carrying bitumen and solvent; does it

diminish the experience? Does it decrease your value? I would sayit does. I cant imagine any other country, like Sweden or Iceland,having pipelines run beside an invaluable, irreplaceable resource.

You cant replace these things.

Mitigation; thats what we hear. As soon as a projects starts,mitigation, Teres going to be mitigation. When you hearthe word mitigation, red ags are up all over the place. What

mitigation means is a guy is going to take your pickup truck andgive you a bus pass or take away your home and give you a tentand a Coleman stove and tell you to go camping. Mitigation is aweasel word. It means youre going to damage something thats

irreplaceable and give almost nothing back or it.

Rob Brown


7/18

When I rst engaged with Enbridge a number o years ago,beore the NEB process started, I remember being told about

the amazing technology o pipelines that would enable them tomonitor rom the inside as to whether pipelines were gettingto that point where they would crack or break. And I remember

being told also that there was a central sort o command systemin Edmonton, whereby i there was a ault in a pipeline, it

instantaneously, this sort o central command, would know thatthere was a loss o pressure in that pipeline and would be able

to shut it o at certain points to stop or the oil spilling. I wasthereore very dismayed to see the reality o the pipeline spill inKalamazoo where the oil spilled or, I believe, 11 hours beore itwas turned o. In act, i Im correct, it was people walking their

dogs along a path that smelled the oil going into the KalamazooRiver who eventually made some phone calls to actually warn thepeople back in Edmonton that actually there was an oil spill. Te

route o this pipeline is nowhere near to any residences or people,where people live. It is largely in a remote part o northern BritishColumbia. When there is a spill or a break in that pipeline who is

going to be there walking their dog to actually warn the people inEdmonton that we have a disaster on our hands?

Skeena MLA Robin Austin

I the National Energy Board was to approach its nal decisionrom consensus, it would recognize strong, heartelt oppositiono northern residents. And we are not rabid radicals, but people

rom all walks o lie and proessions and backgrounds andcultures and political persuasions because we know how volatileMother Earth and Mother Nature is here in northern British

Columbia and we ear the negative impact o an almost inevitableleak or spill. And those concerns cannot be written over top o bypower and money and international trade and multi-nationals,nor the Conservative government, the trade Minister, nor thePrime Minister.

Frances Birdsell

Normally, Im on the other side o this process as a consultant, mainly to industry. Im typically

ound giving support to a project application, extending my knowledge and my experience to reducing

risks and harm, negative eects, maximizing the positive economic and social gains and sometimesimproving environmental eatures as well. Ive worked as a proessional biologist since 1998 managing

projects rom local orestry, mine, hydroelectric projects to projects that are urther rom homeincluding uranium mines, coal mines, oil sands exploration and development. Many others have spokenspecically about the -- well, about the specic dangers o the project and the specic risks. And I willnot speak to those specically except to say that the land and the waters o this area are too valuable

to be given over to a project that has inevitable and perhaps irreparable environmental consequences.Te act is that there are alternatives, there are alternate routes some o which, o course, already existand others which do not exist, but would be saer routes. And there are also alternate options or theresource others have spoken o.

Amanita Coosemans


8/18

Geographically, the rivers in the coastal section o BritishColumbia are classied as new rivers. Teir river beds are notxed in stone. Tey change based on the ooding and the

circumstances that change rom year to year. And althoughIve been in this area or approximately 35 years, rom a riversperspective and or the changes to the topography, its a veryshort period o time. We have natural disasters that have changed

things in the short time that Ive been here. I remember lookingout my window in 1982 and watching the whole valley shake aswe had a brie, but minor, earthquake. And Ive been living hereor two o the earthquakes, though I dont recollect one o them.

And Ive been here to see or to be witness to the snowalls thathave toppled the transmission towers that eed Kemano and thesource o energy or Alcan, and this snow ultimately turns to

water, which turns into potential ooding issues which takes outroads and rivers.

Ian Gordon

I have cherished living in this incredible environment or over30 years, moving ar rom my roots halway across this vastcountry. Many o us here have come rom overbuilt, polluted

and ragmented environments. Many have stayed here to enjoy apristine environment and to learn rom this environment. I havelearned that water eeds, transports and aects all lie. What we

witness in our region is the undisturbed and abundant web olie that the water provides or all. What we witness in this areais how the First Nations have continued to live or thousands oyears by respecting this web and the interdependent relationship.

I ask you, Panel, to understand the important role our diversehuman communities have here. Many o us eel that by livinghere and sharing in this rich corner o the natural world that weare to be stewards, that we accept the right to speak up or the

land and the natural environment that we belong to and to say noto Enbridge, to Mr. Harper and China. Oil and water do not mix.

Lori Merrill

I spent many years in the Douglas Channel. I was a pile driver.I have built every structure you see rom here on to Klemtu and

into Kemano. I helped to build all o them. And youre working in

20-oot tides. Now, to somebody rom the at lands where youcome rom, it doesnt mean a whole lot, perhaps, but you can seethe 20-oot tide is a real pain in the neck i youre trying to work.

But its much worse, I tell you, i you get an oil spill that covers a20-oot high cli side is what it will do. And you know, Enbridgeare less than honest when they tell us that theyll look ater the --

that only the best ships or the saest ships and all that will comehere because they, in act, have no control over it. As soon as itleaves the pipeline, theyre not in control.

John Jensen


9/18

So I spent my youth around here enjoying the outdoors and really everything this has to oer. I shedthe Douglas Channel and the surrounding waters or many years and Id suggest that Im intimatelyaware o the dangers in these waters. You know rom rocks to gale orce winds or the worst yet thecombination o those two things coming together and that has me very earul o supertankers cruising

through this narrow channel. I pictured it as a like an image o a balloon ull o bitumen oating aroundnear countless miles o sharp and pointy rocks and so thats why Im here talking about, thats the imagepeople -- make sure its clear in their mind. You know ships hit things and people make mistakes, peoplemake errors. I would suggest that over the lietime, i this project is go ahead, we will see an accident.

You know, were talking about 800 metre ships going through passages that are, in some cases, are asnarrow as 1,000 metres. So you guys can do the math as well as I can. Its kind o like using a bathroomon an airplane, really, you know, there really isnt even enough room to change your mind.

Mikael Jensen

We also know that there are huge amounts o contaminated

materials produced in the process and the ultimate state othe lands which have experienced tar sands extractions arelet looking like a war zone. It is a very inefcient process,energy and resource-wise. Tere are signs to indicate that toxic

waste produced in this process is leaching out o supposedlycontaminated ponds, and possibly having negative impacts onhuman health down the river.

Tis is particularly troubling in light o a report that came outjust today rom Canadas environment commissioner, indicatingthat hundreds, i not thousands o contaminated sites exist inCanada and are in desperate need o cleanup. Unortunately,

those companies responsible or those sites have washed theirhands o the situation or have let or are no longer in existence,and the mess is let to poison plants, animals and humans in the

area, and or generations to come.

Amy Klepetar

Te ego money, wanting another car, a bigger house, more things and never satised. Te ego power toown more, to have more control, to be more powerul and never satised. Te ego insecurity to be great,to show people what I can do. People could look at me with more envy and never satised. Our egogreed always wanting more, taking more, never satised. I it is not one thing, it will be another. As we

see throughout the oil history and under the ego, there is never enough oil to satisy the individual andwhat are costs to human health and lives and what are costs to this wonderul planet.

Laszlo Ratkai


10/18

So what Im suggesting is that the policies o this governmentdont accurately reect our citizens. I think this is especially soin this region regarding this proposal. But a project o this scale

goes beyond partisanship in my opinion. Te shel lie o nationalgovernments and those around the world -- o our nationalgovernance and those around the world do not really mesh withsound environmental policies that aect uture generations.

Te short term x is the easy way out. We need leadership thatis willing to go out on a limb and try to reverse the course ourplanet is on. I I sound rustrated and cynical its because I am.Te Northern Gateway proposal, lining a corporations pocket

while exploiting unrened oil when we are still importing oil toEastern Canada, and we shoulder all the risk.

Dustin Quezada

Fortunately the world and Canada is now guarded by the United Nations Declaration on the rights oindigenous people, and Im just taking a quote rom the preamble o the Declaration:

Recognizing the urgent need to respect and promote the inherent rights o indigenous peoples whichderive rom their political, economic, and social structures, and rom their cultures, spiritual traditions,histories and philosophies, and especially their rights to lands, territories, and resources. Canada nowhas to respect First Nation rights and the right to sel-government. And i it is that the First Nation

communities say no to this proposal, Canada must respect that.

Sheree Ronasen

I believe resh water is the single most important natural resource on the planet. We cannot survivewithout it. We cannot create ood without it. It is just -- it is the most important thing on earthbasically. So putting a pipeline near any o that water supply is never going to be okay with me or

anybody that agrees with me on that point. It seems almost unny, in an extremely sad way, that basiccommonsense does not allow people to see that this is a bad idea.

Boby Wagner

Already vast quantities o resh water are used and polluted in the extraction o oil rom tar sandsbitumen up to our barrels o water per barrel o bitumen are required. Tis water comes rom the

Athabasca River and rom groundwater, and both o these sources are limited and decreasing accordingto this same Environment Canada report. Huge amounts o natural gas are also burned in theextraction process. Te Pembina Institute, or example, estimates that 74 billion cubic eet o naturalgas or 34 percent o the annual consumption o natural gas in British Columbia will be required to uel

the increased tar sands production. o allow urther expansion o this industry leaves Canada unable tospeak without hypocrisy about global environmental issues. Instead, we set an example o greed and osubjugating environmental and social issues or the benet o large corporate interests in the tar sandsindustry.

Allen Wootten


11/18

Te children in this region deserve a stable environment. Teyare being brought up to recognize and respect the environmentthat they live in and a pipeline is the most disrespectul thing that

can happen in this region. What we need -- what would Enbridge

do or the children i there was a spill? I truly do not believein the trickle-down theory o economics that this wonderulmega project is going to do something or the children o this

region. Our children would begin to look like the children thatare in Arica, and its not acceptable. We need to ensure that thisenvironment stays the way it should stay, pristine, and that we

ensure that the sh in the rivers are there or the animals and thepeople to have as their sustenance ood. Poverty is not acceptable.We signed the Declaration o the Rights o Children, this countrydid, and still we are not living up to it. And i we get the pipeline

and there is a spill, or sure, whos going to care or the childrenin this region when their amilies cant and the government o

Canada already doesnt live up to the responsibility it has.

Larissa Tarwick

Oten we hear the nancial bottom line is always emphasized

by the Harper government, as well as the provincial players inAlberta and B.C. But let me tell you, ultimately, nature has thenal say about a bottom line. We can get away or a while withmega-scale exploitation o the planet, but any grade 12 science

student will quickly see what has happened over the last 100years on this planet is absolutely unsustainable and spiralling out

o control.

John Krisinger

Members o the Panel, the Skeena Angling Guides Associationagrees unanimously that this Joint Review Panel should not-- not approve the Northern Enbridge Gateway Project. Te

way orward, or a way orward, would be to upgrade all bitumeninto crude oil then still within Alberta, rene that crude oilinto gasoline or diesel, et cetera. All o these tasks should be

undertaken in Alberta, providing an even more increasedemployment opportunity or Canadians there. I building aworld-class renery in Alberta is economically unviable, we wouldthen suggest piping the upgraded bitumen to existing reneries

with excess capacity and maybe utilizing the Keystone pipeline asa vehicle to do this.

Jezz Crosby


12/18

I do not proess to be an expert in oil pipelines or oil tankers, butone thing I do know is accidents do happen. One accident wouldbe one accident too many. We cannot play in oil, we cannot eatin oil, and tourists do not want to come and look at oil oozing all

over the orest oor or in our rivers or ocean. Tat is what a spillwould do to our beautiul, bountiul rainorest. So when you gohome, please think o what this area means to us in regards to

recreation and ood and the tourism. Please say no to EnbridgeNorthern Gateway project.

Francoise Godet

We have several untold thousands o people, untold thousandso people, rom what I understand, rom border to border

in northern British Columbia -- there is not a majority thatsupport this. Its my understanding that, nationally, there areuntold hundreds o thousands that are opposed; the commonsense o putting such a high-risk project through this piece oterritory. And on the other side to give due respect there are

literally hundreds o people that are equally educated and equallyrational and equally principled and well-meaning that proposethat this project should go ahead. And i theres hundred or it

and theres hundreds o thousands against it, I say it comes othe table as a project that wouldnt be. Now, i thats wrong andthis goes through then we have to redene the word democracybecause its not a majority rule its something rammed down the

majoritys throat and thats the end o my presentation.

Mark Collins

Many stakeholders, including First Nations in communitiesalong the route, anticipate signicant, immediate and long-term environmental risks to land, streams, rivers and the ocean

as a result o the Northern Gateway pipeline with minimalor no social, economic or environmental benet to them. Teproponent says it will be responsible with this project and willmake extra eort to conserve and protect the environment.

Although its poor environmental protection track record leavesBritish Columbians asking, is the poor track record the result o acompany that is doing its best but just isnt capable o providingthe environmental protection required in projects o this

magnitude o the Northern Gateway pipeline, or does the historyo spills and hal-hearted response actions reect a less than bestattitude and eort on the part o the proponent?

Paul Hanna


13/18

Te bottom line, i I can just summarize, is that the risks aretremendous. Te risks are predictable. And the clean-up costs

o the accidents are so astronomical that it really makes mewonder why a successul corporation would even consider aventure like this. Considering the high risk, the astronomicalcosts o clean-up, why would they? I can only speculate that

theyre already banking on tax dollars to bail them out when the

accidents actually happen. Now, again, rom the point o view oa corporation, that may be ne, but a responsible government

should never allow this to happen. Unortunately, we dont seemto have one o those at the moment.

Alexander Lautensach

I wish to draw your attention not only to risk, but also toperception o risk, and both are signicant in this issue. First

o all, the risks will be disproportionately borne by BritishColumbians while the rewards will go largely to shareholdersand bondholders, many o them oreign. Observers rom Wall

Street or Beijing have probably never caught a salmon rom apool shared with a black bear or watched eagles riding thermalsabove the Skeena Valley. Whats it to them, aside rom a nancialinconvenience, i they turn any river in B.C. into a toxic drainage

ditch? Executive dismay over the spill into the Kalamazoo Riverin Michigan was likely ar more to do with nancial liability thanwith the biological hazard and damage created along the rivers

course. Tese observations are not environmental risks per se,but they are relevant to how one perceives environmental risk.None o you on the Panel lives here. Might your perception o the

threat not be tempered by your eventual distance rom it? I dontwish to impugn your integrity, but it is human nature to discountthe importance o distant calamities.

Alan Lehmann

Shortly ater arriving here, we took the erry down the coast to join the amily or Christmas. At onepoint during that trip, there were masses o porpoises playing in the wake o the erry. Picture it, a

wake on each side o the erry and our or ve waves deep, and in each o those waves, there were sixor seven porpoises jumping and obviously having un in the waves. It was an extraordinary sight andquite overwhelming. We all got goose bumps watching it. Our kids had never orgotten it and still talk

about it. Tey both want to come back as porpoises. We cant consider the pipeline without consideringthe tankers going up and down the coast. One spill in a narrow inside passage would devastate thethousands o miles o coastline along the mainland and around the hundreds o islands that make upour west coast. It would have dire eects on the porpoises and all other lie living in and around the sea.Tis includes humans who depend on the sea or ood and livelihood. I cannot imagine how you clean

up this rugged and intricate coast.

Jane Treweeke


14/18

I would like to share some o our adawx. Tese laws are taughtstarting at the beginning o a simshian persons lie. Tese laws

are lived and breathed in every moment, in order or a simshianperson to be true to him or hersel throughout the journey.When youre taking a ood, never turn your nose up or act in

any way disrespectul towards that which provides you with lie.Te animal that is giving up his or her lie in order that I, as oneo the two-legged, can survive is a position o one to be oreverhonoured and held in sacredness. As a warrior, when I take o

this ood in order to sustain my lie, then I had better be preparedto return the avour and give back by protecting that which hassustained me, thus my reason or speaking today. When I allowEnbridge oil to touch the lie o that which sustains me without

at least attempting to stop it, then I am an active participant

in breaking this simshian law. I will not participate in suchatrocities.

Brenda Wesley

In the northwest here, we have seen resource companies come and go. Ater it becomes no longer

protable or these companies they go somewhere else and we are let with the destruction o ourhabitat in which we live. Tis pipeline is no dierent. Our riches here are not o the monetary kind.Te beauty o our mountains, the rivers, the animals and the sh are what make us rich. Extractingresources and exporting them or short term gain while destroying the environment will make us poor.

Te building o this pipeline will acilitate this. Our country should not be so eager to give our resources

away at the cost o our environment and jobs. Tey need to be processed here and supply Canadianswith long-term jobs.

Troy Peters

Lastly, should our economic development not give us the maximum benet instead o the minimum?

Why are we selling this resource as quickly as we can when it is going to dramatically rise in value? Whyare we selling it to other economies instead o using it to support our own? It is like selling raw logs.What permits governments or corporations to weaken the national economy by selling the nationalresources that it requires? Te answer to all these questions is there is too much damage or potential

damage to the environment, our communities within it, and our national economic sel-interest to

allow this project to proceed.

Robert Hart


15/18

Some incidents, the Exxon Valdez and Costa Concordia shipwrecks or example, were caused by humanneglect. Others, such as the Fukushima disaster, the Deep Water Horizon and quite possibly the tworecent sawmill explosions in British Columbia, were the result o inadequate or inappropriate acility

design, construction or maintenance; the Rumselds Factor. Te risk exposure o the proposed Enbridge

project belongs to the same class as Fukushima Power Plant project and the Deep Water Horizon. Ithere is a disaster, the consequences will not be limited in time and location as they are ollowing a trainaccident or an ice jam. Te consequences o crude oil spilling into one o the regions rivers or British

Columbias coastal waters cannot be oretold. We cannot know the circumstances, likelihood or the ullextent o such an event.

Andre Jean Carrel

Tis project would provide concentrated prots and an enhanced liestyle or a ew at the ruin o thequality o lie o many. Te rapid development o the tar sands and their capillary projects have not had

the promised national benet. Our country has been running record decits and manuacturing jobs

across the country are being lost due to the rapid expansion o energy extraction projects. Why sell it allnow? Why not save this resource or Canadians over the long term?

Paul Geier

Who is responsible when the tanker leaves the port? Is Enbridge responsible or the spills that happen

or is it, once it leaves the port, is it the Canadian Government Coast Guard that watch over this andrespond to this. Or is it watched by Enbridge themselves till it leaves Canadian waters? In the channelsthat they want to go through, it can blow glass out o a crew boat, and as has been mentioned, the slidesgo on and on and on.

Randall Rodger

I dont agree with this pipeline rom the outset, and there is no way I could ever change my mind.

Donald J. Bruce

Well Canada doesnt tend to enorce environmental laws. It took Environment Canada 20 years to

collect 2.4 million in nes rom major polluters. By comparison, the oronto Public Library collected2.6 million in just one year rom overdue book nes. ypically, environmental oenders arent heldaccountable. Teyre like little kids running ahead looking neither right nor let, taking absolute risks

and then saying, Oh gee, sorry later.

Betty Geier


16/18

A couple o days ago Chie Roberts welcomed us to his peoples territory and he spoke briey about the

common bowl. Tis is a sophisticated and highly nuanced way o living as a community and as a nationamongst other nations. Its something that this country could probably learn to do all by ourselves. Iwont cheapen it by trying to get into the details o it here. Sufce it to say that its a concept that is

central to easting and Aboriginal governance on the coast. At the east everyone is nourished rom acommon bowl, and you come to it with respect and with responsibility. And you know that everyonepartaking rom the bowl comes there with clean hands. Because you come with clean hands andeverybody takes their air share, no more and no less. I like to think o our atmosphere as a commonbowl. Im trained as a weather orecaster. What goes around comes around. And i you disrespect others

by coming to the east with unclean hands then youre putting crud into the common bowl and you arenot acting responsibly.

John How

Strictly speaking rom a personal point o view, Im dismayed and

disheartened at the proposed Enbridge projects. Tese colossalmultinational projects o unsustainable proportions should neverbe sanctioned or condoned by our government.

Tat theyre willing to sacrice our habitat, our home, has ignited

a spirit o deensiveness and protection in me. All the more so as Ihave recently become a grandmother and Im standing here moreor uture generations than or mysel.

Cheri Reidy

Also, what is going to happen to the curious grizzly bears and black bears during the construction?

Teyre simply -- are they simply going to be shooed away i they slow down the crew? No, itll probablyget shot and tossed aside.

Shekina Smart

National interest. Are not our children and their uture the national interest? And Im not only talkingabout the children here, Im talking about all o Canadas children. Canadas natural resources and

natural places do not go on orever. We do not own these lands, the government does not own these

lands; these lands belong to the uture generations. What are we leaving or them? Were risking all orthe benet o a ew here and now without concern or uture generations. I its economy that talks,what will their economy be based on?

Colette Stewart


17/18

I realize that we all use oil, but I also realize that our world aces several challenges as a result o

past, current and uture use o oil. It is clearly evident to me that our world is at a point where weneed to nd energy alternatives. Expertise and resources need to be directed towards researching anddeveloping such alternatives and making them available to the public. Canada as a world leader should

be spearheading such a movement and not delaying it, as it would seem that they would be doing ithey approve this project. I believe that the oil sands should be used as a transitional resource in thedevelopment o alternatives, not as a reserve to be exploited completely or maximum prots. Te oilrom Canada could actually be used in Canada to help oset our oil imports as we transition to a cleaner

and renewable energy system. Canada needs to take a stand and take steps or a better world, and notjust increase prots. We need to look past dollar signs now and think about the world and the Canadathat will be let or uture generations.

David Duddy

As a Canadian citizen I do not believe that the project is in Canadas best economic or security

interests. Tere may be short term monetary gains or a ew Canadians, but the benets o the pipelinewould largely ow to Chinese corporations and Asians citizens.

Longer term, I see no benets to Canada or its citizens. At the very least, it is not or the public good

and at the very worst it could be disastrous or Canada.

Mia Reimers

Because I was an Economic Development Ofcer, it was expected that I was supportive o most, i notall economic opportunities. I would occasionally meet with Enbridge ofcials and they would ask mewhy they were acing increasing opposition and i I could help turn that tide. Im actually ashamedto say that I did not speak up in opposition to the project then with those ofcials sitting in ront

o me in my ofce. At the time, I was a representative o the city and region and there was economicdesperation here. Speaking up against a project like this was deemed unacceptable since it was perceivedit would make errace seem like we were not, quote unquote, open or business. Also, I could not

speak strongly or or against any project without support rom our Economic Development AuthoritysBoard o Directors. I recognize that being here today in opposition o this project certainly does nothelp me gain uture employment in economic development. I am very proud to be here today beore youspeaking in ull opposition o this project and Im very pleased that our errace City Council has spoken

and voted to ofcially oppose this project.

Sam Harling


18/18

It seems to me that the people behind this must be called radicals in the sense that they are preparedto endanger a thriving salmon industry along the Skeena and the sh stocks o our coast or a short-term prot. Tey are willing to put so many livelihoods in jeopardy or prots or a ew. It seems to

be short-term thinking and basically gambling with other peoples utures. Te people who oppose

this venture, especially First Nations but many others, I think, are the real conservatives. Tey dontthink the benets are worth the risk. In the long run, oil prots are nothing compared to the livingecosystem that has been, you know, nourishing people here or thousands o years and is still providing

us $100,000,000 a year as the Skeena Sports Fishery or the combined shery along the Skeena, I shouldsay. And then theres more on the coast. So I think a major spill or a series o smaller ones could destroyour water and sh stocks. We could end up impoverished, watching the wealth owing by our town on

its way to another country.

Noel Reidy

Tis pipeline would export jobs and allow China to expand and urther increase our jobless rate.

China has a very questionable human rights track record and by exporting 325,000 tonnes o bitumenper very large crude carrier, 250 times per year, we will be an accessory to Chinas almost criminaltreatment o their citizens. China has the death penalty, proven by the executions we hear about on a

regular basis. Some o these executions are or crimes that would warrant a small jail sentence here inCanada.

Walter Fricke

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