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A Cup of Coffee with God Part 6

Reality and Illusion(An Uncommon Imaginary Dialogue between God and Me)

Gan, Chennai

Posted on 15-May-2013; Modified on 18-May-2013; Rev-02

Are we using a Torch to find out what Darkness is...?

Me: Hi God! Happy to see you again!God: So do I.Me: I wish, I ask you something about Reality andIllusion.

God: Its my pleasure to Answer you!

M: Whats the difference between Reality andIllusion?G: We call anything that we perceive through ourFive Senses as Perception. Perceptions are not theUltimate Reality. They are mere perceptions. Somepeople call these Perceptions as Reality. But, someterm this as Illusion. Didn't Albert Einstein say

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistentone?"


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M: Can you give an Example?

G: The Table and the Chair you see is not exactly theSolid Object as you visually see. It is merely aconglomeration of Atoms which in term is made up ofSub Atomic particles like Quarks, Leptons, Bosonsetc. If you still go deep inside, it is pure energy andmerely empty space. The Ultimate Reality of anyObject is empty space and formless energy. Yourbrain simulates and brings the form of table andChair in your Mind. They are tables and Chairs and

also Atoms & Molecules and also empty Space &Energy. Then Table and Chair are both Reality andIllusion.

M: Then why do I see a Table and Chair as a solidObject?

G: This is what we term as Perception or Maya. This

includes your own Body, including your Head andEyes. Really they dont exist, but actually youperceive them. The solidity is a SIMULATIONhappening inside the CONSCIOUSNESS. The WholeUniverse is a simulation only taking place inConsciousness.

M: But, I am able to See it, Touch it, Feel it and so

on. How do you say it is Maya?

G: We usually term I as the Subject; what we See,Touch and Feel as the Object. But in Truth, both theSubject and Object are mere perceptions and theydont exist except as an Idea in the consciousness.Neither of them are Independent. For an Object toexist Subject is essential. Without Objects Subject

becomes utterly meaningless.


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If you have to really see the Table and Chair youmust see them as Atoms and Sub Atomic Particles.Who does the gimmick of making them Table andChair. Is it not the Simulation of Brain?Both are one and the same but appearing differentfor us from different perceptions.

M: You mean not only the Objects dont exist, but theSubject I also doesnt exist, and my own SELF isonly a Perception?

G: Exactly! There are no Subjects. There are noObjects. There are only Actions.

There are only Actions! There are no Actors!There is only Seeing! There are no Seers!There is only Feeling! There are no Feelers!

IN REALITY, THERE ARE NO NOUNS. THERE AREONLY VERBS.

M: It is shocking to hear, that I dont Exist. But, I amable to see my Hands, Legs, Body etc.

G: You are able to see the same body, hands, legsetc in Dreams also. You behave as a King. You

behave as a Beggar. You feel Thirsty. You feelHunger. You get even shock when you touchelectricity in your Dream. How do these constructionsHappen even without Physical Bodies. Dont you feelits as Real as you are Awake in the Dreams, evenwhen the physical body is lying flat?

M: But, for the Dreams to Happen my Body and Life

are required, without which Dreams can not happen.


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G: Your Body and Hardwares are only an Idea. But,they are bound to obey the Physical Laws. I agree.But, you dont exist except as an Idea in theConsciousness. The idea is only a Perception. Youare not that Idea.

M: Then who am I?

G: Your are Consciousness, which has No Forms,No Shapes, No Names, No age, No Sex, No Birth,No Death and so on. Your body and mind dont

perform your Life. Rather life is performed throughYour Body and Mind. You dont see through youreyes. Life is seen through your eyes.

There is only one Dreamer. That is Consciousness.There are billions of Dreams all happening inside theConsciousness simultaneously. Consciousness is thePart as well as the Whole. You are that

Consciousness. Since you get too much carriedaway, you identify yourself with Body and Mind andyou find it extremely real.

M: What is Consciousness?

G: All there is, is Consciousness Only. Nothing else.

Its like a Giant Movie screen, on which many moviesrun. Many persons come and go, but, the screen isnot affected by them. The movies are dependent onthe Screen, whereas the Screen is not dependent onthe Movies.

You are the Screen and not the Movies that run on it.Unfortunately if the Screen identifies its own self with

the Movies, its really pathetic. You will be Born and


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You will Die like the movies come and go. You arenot the Body, You are not the Mind. You areConsciousness. You are never Born. You never Die.You are Eternal.

There is only one consciousness, in which everythingis part. Essentially, You and I, Dogs, and Cats, Rocksand Stones etc are all one and the same, except forthe perception in the Mind that we are separate. Thewhole universe springs up from the Mind. From theBirth we are taught that we are separate. It's a GrandIllusion.

M: Who creates the Separateness?

G: Thoughts create Separateness. Thoughts areperceptions. Consciousness Perceives. There is noperceiver. There is only Perceiving. There is onlyexperiencing. There are no Nouns. There are only

Actions.

M: How can there be Actions without Nouns?

G: Nouns are Imaginary. You and I are merelyImagined Imaginations as Nouns by theConsciousness for all experiences to take placeinside consciousness. Just Leelas. Looking deep youwill find that even actions are dreams. So only I

termed it as Leela. Consciousness plays Hide andseek games by creating You and I. Essentially Youand I are one. There is no separateness except as anIdea inside the Mind.

M: If Consciousness does everything, dont I doanything independently. Dont I have any Freewill?


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G: When separateness itself is an Illusion, where isthe question of Independent action and Free will?Your Independent Actions and Free Will is nothingbut a Perceived Thought, when you are separated byyour Thoughts.

Imagine a TV Picture Tube. Assume the ElectronGun as Consciousness, and the actors are You andMe and all else that appear on the Screen.

If Consciousness dreams and projects everything onits screen, what is the role of the actors in the on

going drama? It is as simple as that. All actors arepart and parcel of the one, Consciousness, which isthe dreamer. Consciousness is the only AbsoluteReality.

M: If Consciousness is dreaming everything, is therenothing really happening?

G: Common Yar! What is the Difference betweenDream and Reality. In the Dream you feel it ReallyReal. In the Reality also you feel it Really Real.

The Dream Begins with Night and ends with Morning.Reality begins with Birth and ends with Death.

M: But Dream is short, with no continuity. In Reality,

duration is long, there is Continuity.

G: Dream is a Short Reality. Reality is a long Dream.It is as simple as that.

M: But, still I dont understand Consciousness. Canyou elaborate me what Consciousness is?


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G: Consciousness is all that is. Self, God andConsciousness are one and the same. The attributesare one and the same. If Consciousness is Ocean,You and I are drops of the ocean.

Consciousness can not not exist. Consciousness isoutside the ambit of Space and Time. Space andTime are contained within the Consciousness.Consciousness is primordial. Consciousness isEternal. Consciousness is everything.

Consciousness weaves the Universe and all its

contents in its dream using Space and Time asIdeas. Consciousness dreams everything andcreates everything in its dream.

M: How can I understand Consciousness? Tell methe methodology.I will tell you, for sure, you can never understandconsciousness!

It is like trying to see what Darkness is using TorchLight. It is like struggling to see what is inside themirror, trying to negate your face appearing in it. Youwill never achieve it.

The moment you try to understand Consciousness, itbecomes a Thought. You can never understand

Consciousness. You can only realize Consciousness.Understanding pertains to the domain of Thought.Realization transcends Thoughts and centers in tothe Being. You can only 'BE' Consciousness.

M: What is the Guarantee that Consciousness itselfis not an Imagination?

G: To know Consciousness is not an Imagination,you have to transcend all thoughts and become one


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with consciousness through the state of Samadhi.This is the only way. Taste of Sweetness is possibleonly through Direct Experience. No words can everdefine Consciousness. The only way is to RealizeConsciousness.

M: One of my friend challenges me not to eatanything for a week to prove that everything isIllusion. What is the Answer?

G: Illusion doesn't mean that there are no PhysicalLaws. You must obey all Physical Laws when you

are inside the specific realm of existence like Waking,Dreaming, Infatuation, Phobias, Suicide Mentality,Fear, Anger, Jealousy, Drugging, Boozing, Stuffing,

Astral Travel, Near Death experience, Split Mind,Bipolar Disorder, Schizophrenia, etc. The very natureof illusion is such that you can't negate it at that stageof experiencing it. Only when you come out of it youwill realize the fallacy of it.

Does your friend mean to say that just because he isso smart, in his dream, if he feels hungry, he willexplicitly say that he will not eat anything justbecause he is dreaming? In his dream also yourfriend has to eat if he feels hungry!

M: Is there Karma, Reincarnation and Freewill?

G: Karma is the Law of Cause and Effect thatpertains to Manifestation. Looking from the relativepoint of view Karma and Reincarnation definitelyexist. When you think, you and I are different, Karmaand Reincarnation definitely exist as an Idea.

When I feel the same 'I-ness", it makes no bigdifference, if you are the same person or a different

person in your New Incarnation. Whoever you are in


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the next birth, you are the same 'I' once again. The 'I'feeling is identical. When the worldly experiences ofeach person differs in all respects, the experience of'I' feeling alone remains the same. In what way itmatters, whether your 'I' feeling is different from my"I' feeling or the 'I' feeling of others? When the same'I' feeling persists in everything, the question ofReincarnation becomes least meaningful.

If you can't understand the above, assume it like this:Forget about the Bodies of all persons for a moment.Discard the Bodies and Mind. Designate all persons

identically with the same name as 'I' and feelings of'I'. Is there any difference? Isn't the feelings of 'I' oneand the same?

When I myself is everything with the same 'I' feeling,where is the question of separation so that one canhave a separate reincarnation? This itself cansubstantiate the proof that we are all the one and the

same 'SELF', even though varying in all experiencesusing different Bodies and Minds, but still having thesame 'I' feeling. This is very tricky to understand.Hopefully you get it.

Looking from the highest perspective of Consciousness, there is no Karma. Consciousness isone undifferentiated, all pervading substance. In TrueConsciousness Karma and Reincarnation becomeredundant.

M: Which is more powerful - Destiny or Free Will?

G: You may read your previous posts where there iselaborate reply on the topic. All Free will iscontained in a even greater Destiny, which you cannot supersede.

M: What is Self-Realization?


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G: Realizing the Absolute Truth that all are one andthe same 'Consciousness' is 'Self Realization.'Knowing the Truth won't help. One has to Realize it.

M: How can I attain Self-Realization?

G: Shut down all your Five Senses. Shut down yourThoughts. Just Be! This is the way and means to SelfRealization. Knowledge about the Self is the Highestknowledge. This is called Jnana. God's grace isalways there. Your surrender only matters. Only very

few are ready for that.M: Some people say once 'Self Realization' happensone will run away from the family?

G: This is simply fun. They take their Mind toomuch. 'You will run away from Worldly life' is a falsenotion about 'Self Realization.' It is absurd to believethat knowing the Truth about existence will drive you

out of worldly life. You will always deal worldlysituations tactically as you should, if you are smart,and if at all, it is destined to happen, you can not doanything about it with any amount of your own efforts!

M: What is the difference between Self-Realizationand Enlightenment?

G: Self Realization is a better and apt terminologythan Enlightenment. Everybody is enlightened tosome extent. But no one can be Self Realized to apartial degree. Enlightenment starts with Awakening,proceeds to Awareness, Transcends the Mind,Understands the Truth, and Finally merges with theConsciousness. There are different degrees ofEnlightenment, but there is only one Self-Realization.

Words are mere Pointers. What you understand


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through the words are only important. The words'Self-Realization' and 'Enlightenment' make leastdifference.

M: Some people say they have seen God? Somepeople say God appears before their eyes? Somepeople say have had Near Death Experience andhave seen Heaven or Hell?

G: Anything pertaining to Mind is only a perceptionand an Idea and not Reality. All God seeing, God

Vision, Ghost Vision, Heaven, Hell etc. pertain to thedomain of one's Mind only. They are Mind's Jugglery.The moment you enter the Mind's domain everythingbecomes really real.

This equally applies to Raghukaalam,Yamangandam, Nalla Neram, Ketta Neram etc. Ifyour mind believes them as real, they are real. Elsethey have no substance. They don't exist except as

an Idea. You create them in your Idea and theybecome real in your Mind. They never bother you asthey don't exist. You only create all these and thenbother on your own. Once you create them in yourMind, they become Real.

Me: I have some more doubts on Reality and Illusion.

God: Sure ! You are welcome to ask anything!Me: What is the relation between Brain andConsciousness?

God: Brain is the Hardware part that only senses theinformation. Something like a Camera, a TapeRecorder etc. It faithfully takes all information inside.

But Consciousness is the 'Subject' part, that extractsnecessary information and absorbs the same for


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necessary experience. All experiences happen onlyin the domain of Consciousness.

For example look at the Table before which you sit.

There is definitely 10 to 100 Objects on the Table.Theses objects have different color, shape, size etc.But according to necessity of experience,consciousness chooses only the selective part of thevision. For example consciousness will prefer tomainly focus on a Pen, if it wants to know about itand discard the nomenclature of the rest of the Items.

Another example is, in a group dance if there are 100persons dancing, even though your brain absorbs allthe information like a camera, since yourconsciousness only want to experience the Hero andHeroine, it will selectively focus on their attributesonly and discard the rest of the 98 group dancers. Ifyou want to experience all the attributes of 100dancers there will be information overload and the

experience will itself become meaningless. This isnot possible also for your consciousness.

Consciousness does selective experiencing. Youdon't do that experiencing. I mean neither your Bodyor Mind. It is consciousness that makes the choice ofexperiencing. This happens even without yourconcurrence. But you feel that you have exercisedyour choice. But, consciousness has done thechoice.

M: Then am I not the Consciousness that makes thechoice?G: All along I am saying that you are nothing butConsciousness only. But you people are onlybelieving that you are nothing but you are Body,Brain and Mind. You are a formless Consciousness


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that choose to experience the necessary agendathrough your Body and Brain and other supportingsenses like Ear, Nose and Mouth.M: Is Consciousness a product of the Brain or anIndependent Agent?G: How can Material Things produce Consciousnesswhich is immaterial? The capacity to experience as'Subject' is not a product of the Brain. The capacityfor consciousness is an inherent quality of life itself.

M: Does Consciousness lie outside the realm ofBody?G: Everything, seen, unseen, material, immaterial,including Body, Brain and Mind lie insideConsciousness. Consciousness permeateseverything. Consciousness is the one and the only.Consciousness is the one and the many.

M: Then when I booze, if my Consciousness prefersnot to get disillusioned, why do I sway then?G: Do you mean to say that if you look at the sun,your consciousness should prefer not to get youblinded? Physical Laws are inevitable. They must beobeyed at all cost. Then, you would also say, I will

jump from the Tenth floor, but still will not prefer tofeel pain, if your consciousness prefers such achoice. This is not possible. Physical Laws willalways prevail.

I never meant that your Body and Mind do not exist. Ionly said that they are merely an Idea to have anexperience of the Consciousness. Your body and

Mind are not You. You are only Consciousness. Thismust be carefully understood.


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M: Is Universe a Single Living Organism?

G: Yes ! Universe is a single Living Organism. The

Universal soul is composed of Billions of IndividualSouls. even though each soul physically senses thesame universe each soul lives in a IndividualizedUniverse where reality is independent.

For example even though all of see the samesubstance, the experience of each person isdifferent. When you a see person called say Joe,

Joe's Son sees him as an Affectionate Father, Joe'sone fellow employee sees him as an Arrogant Boss,yet another man sees him as a loose talker, his wifesees him as a stringent husband and so on. Thisapplies to all that we perceive in the Universe. Onesees the Universe as a Nasty Stuff, another sees itas an Embodiment of Love. some considersFacebook a worthy stuff while some consider it as auseless stuff. Some may consider this article as anunbearable torture to read, some may consider it asa very Useful stuff. There is no standard way ofperceiving the Universe and its contents. Allperceptions are false identifications created in themind stuff.

To be centered in Consciousness is to Transcend allthe Ploys of Mind and transcend all Perceptions. This

is optimum way of living. Question all theperceptions, don't believe what ever your mind saysand consider it some suspicion.

M: What is Present , Past and Future ?

G: There is only Now. This moment is only Real.Neither the Past nor Future exist except as an Idea.

Everything happens spontaneously in the presentMoment. Just like in a Water fall even though there is


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continuity of water, the water that falls this moment isnot the water that falls the next moment. Thecontinuity of a water fall is only an illusion.

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M: Can you explain me what are the completefunctions of consciousness?

G: Consciousness is like Electricity. A stand aloneElectricity has no big use. But, using Electricity allequipments functions like Bulb, Television, Heater,

Air Conditioner, Computer etc.

Similarly, Consciousness is the Prime Mover of theUniverse. Consciousness is the Engine that runs thewhole Universe. The whole Universe is a makeup of

the Consciousness.

Consciousness when in Motion is ThoughtsConsciousness when in Stillness is Awareness

Consciousness when experiencing is Waking andDreaming

Consciousness when Empty is Deep SleepConsciousness when is aware of its own is SamadhiConsciousness when stored as bunch of Thoughts is

Mind


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Consciousness is the Part (You and Me) and theWhole (Universe)

Consciousness is Space and TimeConsciousness is the Material and Immaterial world

Consciousness permeates the Entire UniverseRather the Entire Universe resides in Consciousness

Everything ExistsIn the Consciousness, By the Consciousness and

For the Consciousness

M: I am now baffled about me. Who am I? Whatshould I do?

G: I am God. I am consciousness.You are God. You are Consciousness.

Everything is God. Everything is Consciousness.

Separation is only an Idea in the Mind. The idea ofseparation is so strong that you can not negate thatfeeling.

A day will come and you will realize everything. Thatday is Here and Now, as Past and Future are mereimaginations of Thoughts. They don't exist existexcept as an Idea.

Bye and enjoy all these Reality aka Illusions, till suchtime you realize the TRUTH and become one withthe CONSCIOUSNESS!

M : Thank You God! I love you so much!

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