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Dr. Žiga Turk Beyond GDP” or “GDP and BeyondRound Table on the Measurement and Use of Data on Social Progress and People’s Well-Being Conference Centre Brdo, Slovenia, 29 November 2010

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Can we use GDP to measure the economy of meaning. My talk at the OECD / SURS Round Table on the Measurement and Use of Data on Social Progress and People’s Well-Being

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Dr. Žiga Turk

“Beyond GDP” or“GDP and Beyond”

Round Table on the Measurement and Use of Data on Social Progress and People’s Well-Being

Conference Centre Brdo, Slovenia,29 November 2010

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Contents

• The 5 “ABCDE” global transformations are a challenge for policy makers.– Abundance makes us think that money (GDP) isn’t

everything

• There are reasons to look beyond GDP– and see why Slovenia was overtaken by Czech

Republic

• There are reasons to keep GDP– it is the GDP Euros that pay for many things

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ABCDE of grand transformations

• Automation and abundance

• BRICs and globalization

• Climate change and energy

• Demography

• E-everything

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A detailed look at A: abundance

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Our industrial model: people work

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… so that they can buy a car.

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The idea worked for a long time!

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But now some can produce but do not spend

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Leading to abundance of products and information in the developed world

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Solution: to those who already have a car also sell a motorbike!

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“What we sell is the ability for a 43-year-old accountantto dress in black leather, ride through small towns

and have people be afraid of him”.

Actually they are not in a business of selling bikes!

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Plain Design Award

Few are in a business of selling function.They sell meaning!

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Plain Fair-traded

Some sell coffee, some sell a good feeling.

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Some sell cleaners and some let us do something for the environment.

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Can we measure the economy of meaning with GDP?

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Some would say money does not make you more happy (and life more meaningful)andmove beyondGDP

Source: Economist

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But some say a dollar is worth more to the poor than to the rich.

log($) doesmakes people happy.

Source: Economist

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But we do not have money!

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So there are reasons to look at GDP and beyond

• economy, consumers are looking beyond the functional and the material

• when you are reasonably well of it takes a lot more money to be a little happier

• because of the crisis right now we do not have the money

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And there are good reasons not to look only beyond GDP

• we have a crisis because the GDP is down,not because people are unhappy!

• we can define:

– good times “joy-less outnumber the job-less”

– bad times “job-less outnumber the joy-less”

• which would you rather have?

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In Slovenia we always thought we are better than any of the former communist countries

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So this was a shock:

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Where?

0,828

0,931

0,782 0,780,841

0,9010,87

0,76

HDI Health Education Income

Slovenia Czech Rep.

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So there are messages for policymakers beyond the GDP, but

• your % of GDP for healthcare are GDP Euros.

• your % of GDP for education are GDP Euros.

• your % of GDP for research and development are GDP Euros.

• you will be paying off your debt with GDP Euros

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THE END

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Credits & Inspiration

• Images:– Google Picture Search

– Flickr

– Wikipedia

– Economist

• Inspiration– Reflection Group on the Future of Europe

– Stephane Garelli

– Daniel Pink