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william_burgess@usa.net This site is the work of one person & all contributions & feedback can be emailed here.Assessing Ty Cobb as The Greatest All-Around Baseball Player Who Ever LivedDeposing the Witnesses What They Actually Said: The Historical Testimony of the WitnessesTy Cobb's Fielding (1905-28)

1917 - "as an outfielder Ty Cobb is unusually good. I think his weakness, so far as he has any, is in his throwing arm. Not that his arm is weak by any means but it is not his strongest point." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85,)(Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85, Winning the Batting Championship by Tris Speaker)1917 - "Ty Cobb is a good outfielder but not the best. No one can cover any more ground than Ty. He is very fast, and ranges widely both to right & left. But he is more apt to get the hard ones than the easy ones & his throwing arm is not in the class with Lewis(Duffy) or Milan(Clyde)". (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917, pp. 292, "The Secret of Good Outfielding", by Harry Hooper)1932 - "Ty certainly had superiors in the outfield, though it seems to me that he never received quite the credit that was due him on defense. He was a much better outfielder than many people supposed. But his fielding was completely eclipsed by

Phil. A's coach, 1929-32, Red Sox VP,Buss. man., treasurer, 1933-51 his work elsewhere". (Baseball Magazine, August, 1932, pp. 395, The Winning Temperment, from an interview with Eddie Collins)1912 - Joe Wood was not only a teammate of Tris Speaker when he wrote this, but Tris' roommate and best friend. "Tris Speaker has played a wonderful game this year. It is his great work which has shown up so strongly and which accounts so largely for

the Red Sox' success. Many people compare Speaker with Ty Cobb. I suppose the Chalmers Automobile Commission will have to choose between these two for the final honor. Personally, I think Speaker on many accounts should get the prize, and at that, Iam willing to admit there is only one Ty Cobb. Ty is a better batter than Speaker, he is a better base runner. Everyone will concede that. He has always been more daring, more resourceful, although Speaker is fast breaking into that department of thethe game as well. But Speaker is a better fielder than Ty Cobb. He covers more ground, has as good if not a better throwing arm and while many people think that Cobb can run back an outfield fly farther than any other player in the game. I do not

think he has anything on Speaker in this respect. Speaker often plays well in, backing up second base in good shape, but he can go back into the outfield territory for a hard batted drive as far as anybody I ever saw. I think Speaker is superior to JoeJackson admitting that Joe is a wonderful player in every department of the game and Joe, too, has one point in which he exceeds not only Speaker and Ty Cobb, but everyone else in the business. He can throw from deep outfield farther than anybody I ever saw. I firmly believe there is no man in either league who can throw a ball as far as Jackson, but in several games where I have watched his peculiar ability in this line I have noticed that he is not always accurate in his throws and much of theadvantage which should come to him from this ability is lost through wildness. Jackson, of course, is a very great player and still young. He has been greatly handicapped by lack of early training, and I believe has not always had the encouragement orgood coaching to bring out the best of his talents. No doubt he will improve in coming seasons and if he could play in the East as well as he does in the west, he would beat them all out. Jackson bats at a .500 clip in his own city or on the averagewestern tour but for some reason cuts that in half on his eastern excursions. Why this is so, no one knows. It is one of the peculiarities of baseball and baseball players. It is hard to compare these three players, for they all excel in some onepoint or more. Oddly enough, they are all Southerners, and all wonders. They are far and away the greatest outfielders in the game, bar none. It is very fortunate for the red Sox that they have on their club one of these three players. No one canappreciate better than a pitcher the worth of a man who covers acres of ground, has a sure and deadly throwing arm and bats in the near neighborhood of .400.

(Baseball Magazine, November, 1912, pp. 52, "Joseph Wood, Esquire--Pitcher.", by John J. Ward, pp. 49-60)1931 - "In the outfield Ty was not supposed to be a star, but he always impressed me favorably. He was fast & could cover acres of ground. He certainly knew how to judge opposing batters as well as anyoneever did. But Ty's extraordinary batting & baserunning threw his fielding into the shade. This didn't mean he wasn't a great outfielder. It meant that he was an even greater batter & baserunner".(Baseball Magazine, April , 1931, pp. 484, column 1 & 2, "The Greatest Player I Ever Saw, Comprising an Interview With George Sisler, pp. 483-484)1936 - "They'll tell you he wasn't much of a fielder, but he was good enough. I know he took a lot of base hits away from me out there." (March 20, 1936, St. Petersburg, FL)1961 - "In the outfield he was terrific." (The Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 15, column 4)1984 - "He wasn't the greatest centerfielder in the world, by any means, but he was adequate." (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green,1984, pp. 47)1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end."(Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1)(Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

(Ty's A's teammate,1927-28) ball player of all time? Why?"Connie Mack 1950 - "One of the finest outfielders I have known was Ty Cobb. He is written down in baseball history for many other accomplishments: I do not believe that he has been given full credit for his achievements as a fielder. Cobb was a real "ball hawk."

NL catcher(1886-96), AL manager(1901-50) He knew, somehow, at the instant the pitcher let go of the ball where it was going to be hit, and times without number he would move to the spot in time for the catch when there was no earthly reason for him to be there. He had a peculiar way of catching a fly ball which hasn't been duplicated & which I would not recommend to anyone else; I doubt if anyone but Cobb could do the trick. On a fly, Cobb wouldn't look at the ball. He would look down at the ground & catch the ball directly over his head without even looking.Ty was very much misunderstood by many fans around the country but there is no player in the history of the game who excelled him in all-round ability."(From Sandlot to Big League,Connie Mack,1950,pp.59-60)1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. But he was a great outfielder with a great arm." (immediately after Ty died in July,'61)

ML man.'26,28,30-37,52-3,58-59 1961 - "He was a winner all the time. Ty would do anything to win a ball game, but when he got off the field, he was a perfect gentleman. Ty was a tremendous outfielder. . He was outstanding in everything." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1926 - "He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, to get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that of

Sporting News column, "Back of Home Plate", 1917-29 some great fielders, but I never could see any weakness in his fielding." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 6)1910 - "As for Cobb's fielding prowess, no manager could ask for a better man to play in right field, although doubtless there have been men who played the batsmen better and men who threw more accurately. No one will question the assertion that Cobb

ML 1B(1882-94) covers as much ground as any player ever did, and as he catches almost everything he reaches, and reaches lots of balls that other fielders could not reach, I don't see what more any one could ask of him. He has a good throwing arm, and, what is better,he is not afraid to use it. He lets go of the ball the minute he knows where he is going to throw, and he usually thrown to the right place.On recovering long, and short hits to the outfield the Detroit man has few equals."(New York Times, April 17, 1910)1934 - "When Ty Cobb came to the big leagues back in 1905 he was an awkward and ordinary outfielder. His burning ambition and readiness to work on his weaknesses raised him within a few years to the baseball heights. To watch Cobb chasing flies in his

AL ump (1917-41, except for Detroit manager,1927-28) prime was to see the supreme master and judge of distance, direction and speed. It seemed that the crack of the bat was the signal by itself for sending Cobb to the right spot. He looked the part of the born ball player, to him fly chasing was asinstinctive as eating, but it was well known that he was developed out of a rookie, as most ball players are. But in contrast to Cobb there was Tris Speaker who was what may be termed a finished fielder when he reached the big leagues. His developmentmerely came earlier, and perhaps, easier. As an infielder, George Sisler may be placed in this class also. He was a highly finished product during his college days at the University of Michigan, so that when the St. Louis Browns signed him to aprofessional contract in 1915 they had what some people called a "born" ball player. (Scholastic Coach, Footwork in Baseball by George Moriarty, March, 1934, pp. 10)1915 - "On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had the better throwing arm

Cincinnati Times-Star sports editor (1910-1925) of the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another.

William M. Burgess III Presents Ty Cobb Memorial Collection (Assessing Ty, file)

Tris Speaker(AL OF & Man.,'07-28)

Harry Hooper(AL OF, '09-25)

Eddie Collins, AL 2B,'06-30, White Sox man.,1925-26

Joe Wood, (AL P, OF, 1908-22)

George Sisler (AL 1B, Man., '15-28) (NL 1B, '28-30)

Babe Ruth (AL P,OF, '15-34)Stan Coveleski (AL P, '16-28)Billy Wambsganss (AL 2B, '14-25)Max Bishop (AL 2B, 1924-35)

Rogers Hornsby (NL pl. 1915-37)

John B. Sheridan, St. Louis sp. wr. (1880's-1929)

Charles A. Comiskey, White Sox owner(1901-31)

George Moriarty, (AL 3B, 1906-17)

Bill Phelon, Chicago spwr. 1889-1909, NY spwr. 1910

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(Baseball Magazine, August, 1915, pp. 47-48, "Handicaps of the Early Season, by William A. Phelon, pp. 41-50)Hugh S. Fullerton in Golfer tells of a remarkable play in base running-yet one not remarkable for Cobb,for, as a friend remarked, "He pulls that stuff all the time. "Mr. Fullerton describes Cobb in a game in Detroit some years ago. "Late in the game,

Editor-in-Chief of the Official Spalding Base Ball Guide(1908-41) he made a play which opened my eyes. A runner was on second base when a short fly was hit over second into center. Cobb could have handled it without an effort. The second baseman or shortstop could have caught it, but it would have required a fastNY Giants business manager & secretary (1912-1919) start. Cobb claimed the catch the instant the ball was hit. "Instead of starting for it at top speed he leaped forward, seemed to hesitate, started slowly and half stopped. Bush, who evidently knew the system, started out hard as if to try to catch the

ball. Cobb yelled something. Bush stopped and backed up. The ball was falling and Cobb was still lagging. It looked fifty to one the ball would fall safe. The runner on second thought he saw the ball falling, thought Cobb didn't have a chance to makethe catch and he leaped toward third. As he did so Cobb sprang forward with a wonderful sprint, made a desperate shoe-string catch, came up with the ball and tossed it to second, doubling the runner off the bag. He had made a play where there was none--had deliberately plotted to deceive the runner into believing the ball would fall safe, and had risked making a desperate catch to get the chance for a double play." (NL Spalding Baseball Guide, date uncertain)1935 - "Beside being the best base runner and hitter he was a magnificent fielder and a fine thrower until he hurt his arm, but it was his indomitable spirit that made him the leader.1929 - "In addition a great fielder in his prime." (Sporting News, March 14, 1929, pp. 5, column 2)

Jack Kofoed 1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's(of Swat) - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means Phil, NY, Miami spwr. (1912-79) a poor fielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than a

busy man in the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only

one on which he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1925, pp. 353-355, "Who Is the Greatest, Cobb or Ruth?", by Jack C. Kofoed)1983 - "He was fast, a great outfielder, great hitter, and he was highly intelligent. Don't forget that." (Baseball Digest, 1983)

Ferdinand Cole Lane 1916 - Aty centre all will acknowledge that Ty Cobb is something of a batter, but to give Ty due justice, he would never have been a star of the 1st magnitude as a fielder. He covers much ground, to be sure, but his throwing arm is not particularlyBaseball Magazine, Editor-in Chief & sp. wr. (1910-38) good. Certainly Ty is not in the same class with Clyde Milan as a fielder, to say nothing of Tris Speaker and several others. Milan is nearly a perfect fielder, prabably second only to the peerless Tris. He is also a good batter, but his fielding is

best. (Baseball Magazine, July, 1916, pp. 38-39, column 2, "Batting or Fielding --- Which?", by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 33-41)Joe Jackson's Fielding (1911-1920)Ferdinand Cole Lane 1916 - "As a fielder, while not in the same class as Harry Hooper or Clyde Milan, Joe is certainly not poor. In fact, he is very good. Furthermore, his throwing arm is tremendously strong & his speed is great, though not always utilized to the full." Baseball Magazine, Editor-in Chief & sp. wr. (1910-38) (Jackson, continued) (Baseball Magazine, 1916, AL All-Star team)

1916 - "Joe Jackson isn't a wonderful fielder and his throwing arm, although strong, isn't always backed up by equally good judgment in direction. But who would keep a player off the outfield squad with a possible .400 ave. in his bat.?(Baseball Magazine, July, pp. 38, column 1, "Battin or Fielding --- Which?, by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 33-41)

1916 - "And he is a fielder with few superiors." (Baseball Magazine, December, 1919, AL All-Star team)1917 - "Joe Jackson has a strong arm but I would say that his aim is not always accurate & that he has not at made the most of this undoubted talent which he possesses." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85, column 3, "Winning the Batting Championship", by Tris Speaker)1917 - "Joe Jackson has great natural talents. He is by no means a poor outfielder as some people would have us believe. He is a good one. but it is fair to admit that his forte is in batting rather than fielding." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917)1929 - "In the matter of sheer natural ability, I believe Joe Jackson surpassed every outfielder that ever came to the major leagues. That opinion was once ventured by Frank Navin, who happens to be one of the keenest judges of baseball talent under

AL ump (1917-41, except for Detroit manager,1927-28) the big top. I have never heard Jackson analyzed in that manner before, but after glancing back through the big parade of rookies that have bowed in and out of major league premises, I doubt if any expert can help but concur in that view. Of course,Of course, back of that opinion that Jackson stood highest in that one vital respect, it is obvious that he failed to develop his inherent skill. Nevertheless, he had the distinction of being a star by virtue of mechanical ability alone. If he hadpossessed the baseball brain of a Cobb or a Speaker, he might have shared the pedestal with these once super-stars. Jackson's mechanical power was amazing. He was tall, and had a great natural eye which made him a potential batsman. He sprinted overthe outfield territory with ease and grace in long strides, and rivaled Bob Meusel as a thrower. "Mister Joe" as he preferred to be called, was a dead catch on flies, yet, he made no effort to give a close or scientific exhibition of outfielding. He wasentirely lacking in initiative, and never resorted to tricks or subterfuge to put something over on the opposition. Jackson should have been one of the greatest base runners in the game, on account of his speed, but the fine points of pilfering were

foreign to him. By an odd twist of the fates, Jackson just missed becoming a member of the Detroit Tigers when he was a busher. On the day the Detroit ivory-hunter chose to watch the big fellow do his stuff, Joe placidly galloped through nine innings inhis stocking feet. The searcher of talent immediately concluded that Jackson was too goofy to get by in the big leagues, and left the park in disgust. Jackson later defended his act with the explanation that spiked shoes hurt his feet. The nickname"Shoeless Joe" was the result of that unique incident. At the plate one day after he had biffed a long hard foul, the catcher complimented Jackson in this wise: "How do you bust them so hard, Joe?" And the elongated Jackson naively replied,"Don't know--I jes' swing, and they go safe." That remark probably reflected Jackson's make-up. He just did things on the ball field, and could give no illuminating reason for it. Jackson's admirers always liked to believe that he was led into theBlack Sox affair of 1919, and would have followed the straight line of duty if he had been accustomed to self-assertiveness." (Baseball Magazine, Feb. 1929, pp. 430-431, "On the Bench With George Moriarty, by George Moriarty)

Babe Ruth's Fielding (1915-35)1938 - "Ruth could make marvelous catches of fly balls that were as spectacular in their cleverness as made by any outfielder playing ball. Especially was this true of those long high flies which, to a slower man, it would have been impossible

Editor-in-Chief of the Official Spalding Base Ball Guide(1908-41) to get under." (Spalding Official Baseball Guide, 1938, put out in early 1938)

NY Giants business manager & secretary (1912-1919)1929 - And then I thought of Cobb, Speaker and Ruth and I discarded all others. These men represent the pick of all-time in any man's league. You simply can't escape them. Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, the

Cinccinnati spwr., 1887-93 greatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime. And as to Ruth, well, he is still with us and going at his best. Many believe Ruth just a slugger and a home run showman. That is not

the truth. Ruth is a great player as well as a great hitter. He is a splendid fielder and a good base runner for his size. He is a better thrower than Cobb was, and Ty was good in his earlier days. He has the baseball instinct, as shown by the factthat he has played first base and has pitched, and at each position he has been successful to a high degree. In my opinion, Ruth is not outshone by the other two outfielders named. He is one of the greatest players that ever lived, in my opinion.(Sporting News, March 14, 1929, pp. 5, column 2)

George Sisler 1931 - "He is really a great outfielder, one of the greatest. He plays batters correctly, covers a lot more ground than you'd think he'd be able to do with his bulk, and has one of the deadliest throwing arms ever known. Besides, Babe has an accurate(AL 1B,Man.,'15-28)(NL 1B,'28-30) baseball judgment and never throws to the wrong base." (Baseball Magazine, April, 193l, pp. 484, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw, Comprising an interview, by George Sisler, pp. 484-485)

1959 - "As a defensive outfielder he was top-hole despite his great bulk, and his throwing arm was one of the most feared." (Baseball Digest, March, 1959, Washington Post, pp. 42, 43)

John B. Foster, NY sportswriter (1888-1941)

Hugh Fullerton, Chicago spwr. 1893-1930'sBan Johnson (Cinc.spwr.,1886-1890) (AL Pres.,'01-27)

Joe Sewell,(AL SS,'20-33) Yank coach('33-35) (BRuth teammate,'31-34)

Tris Speaker (AL OF & Man.,'07-28)

Harry Hooper (AL OF, '09-25)George Moriarty, (AL 3B, 1906-17)

John B. Foster, NY sportswriter (1888-1941)

Ban Johnson, (AL Pres.,'01-27)

Shirley Povich (Wash. sp.wr.'22-74)

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1924 - "Most enthusiasts think of Ruth only as a mighty batsman. As a matter of fact, he is a very finished outfielder with a marvelous throwing arm. . . Ruth plays a hard-hit ball as well as any outfielder in the business. He goes after a ground ballCinc.man.('16-17), Giants' coach('19-20), Reds Pres.('23-25) like an infielder, and for all his size he is a smart and daring base runner. (Collier's, The National Weekly, Oct. 11, 1924, pp.45)Ed Rumill 1947 - "Few modern fans may realize it, but Babe Ruth was a great outfielder. We mean defensively. The Babe rarely dropped a ball he got his glove on and nobody can remember when he threw to the wrong base. How did he get that way? Not by sitting(Christian Science Monitor spwr. (1930-72) around, watching other outfielders practice." (Baseball Magazine, September, 1947)Joe Wood 1975 - ". . .Ruth?. . . But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he was a great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer. (Baseball Research Journal,1987, #16, pp. 54)AL pitcher & OF ('08-22) (This was a reproduced 1975 interview by Mark Alvarez)

1936 - "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew.Ferdinand Cole Lane 1923 - "His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if not mediocre. ( Baseball Magazine, June, 1923, pp. 291)Baseball Magazine, Editor-in Chief (1910-38) 1924 - "Babe Ruth is baseball's greatest drawing card. His all round value, considering his terrific hitting, is perhaps unequaled. But Babe will never see the day when he ranks with Pep Youngs as an outfielder, taking into consideration only the

playing of that important position. Ruth knows batters and he plays them correctly. He can camp under a high fly as well as the next man. He has one of the greatest throwing arms ever seen in the outfield. But when you have said this, you have said it all. Babe is rather clumsy. He isn't specially fast. He's not a great outfielder. Pep Youngs is all these things, and he also has a whip as deadly as a rifle. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 307, Comprising interview with Ross Youngs by F.C. Lane)1946 - "But there also were numerous occasions when the Babe made plays which he had craftily thought up beforehand. Such as the day he played left field in Detroit and trapped no less an experienced hand than Charley Gehringer into thinking a fly

ball had cleared the fence for a homer instead of coming down for an easy out. This was before the present double deck stands had been erected in what then was call Navin Field. There was just a board fence in left and to the Babe one day it occurredthat with a runner on second it could be possible, with a high fly ball hit out toward left, to fake all the notions of a dejected outfielder who knows a homer is about to sail over his head. So he bided his time and one afternoon it came. With Gehringer on second, a high fly soared out to left. The Babe ran back to the fence, looked up at the ball for a moment and then with a motion of utter disgust shrugged his shoulders and cast his eyes on the ground. It was a beautiful piece of acting and

fooled Gehringer completely. Certain the ball was clearing the fence, the Tiger second baseman headed for home. And in that same moment Ruth darted forward, got his eyes back on that ball and caught it some five feet in front of the fence. Doubling up Gehringer at second was then a simple matter. Of course, in order to accomplish the trick an outfielder must be equipped with the gift of being able to take his eye off the ball for an appreciable length of time. But then the effervescent Babe Ruthwas ever a very gifted hand at anything he tried on a ball field. (Baseball Magazine, 1946)

Ty as his peers saw himJohn McGraw 1930 - His (McGraw's) deepest admiration went out to Ty Cobb, because Cobb was another firebrand always out to win. The first two qualities he looked for were fight and brains because he knew they were game-winners. (Collier's, April 5, 1930)NL pl (1891-06), exc. '01-02, (Giants man., '02-32) 1930 - "My choice of an all-time, all-star team? I'll tell you: Honus Wagner, shortstop and lead-off man, Ty Cobb in center, Willie Keeler in right field, Babe Ruth in left,batting fourth, Lou Gehrig behind him and at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, AL man. Balt. 1901-02 Jimmy Collins at third, Roger Bresnahan catching and Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson pitching. What a team of sweet hitting, sweet fielding, sweet pitching players that would be. I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, rather

than as a player. But nothing like that will ever happen in baseball, for every manager will always have one or two weak spots. (Sporting News, Nov. 20, 1930, pp. 7, column 6)

1931 - …Bob Davis asked John J. (McGraw) who was the best all-around player in the history of the game, and without a moment's hesitation came back with the answer: "Honus Wagner. In my humble opinion, he stands out as the supreme figure. Wagnerhad everything, and when I say that, every baseball fan in the United States knows what I mean. Ty Cobb is a close second. There are a number of other players who have special gifts, but Wagner and Cobb had all the gifts. I doubt if the next generationwill see their equal." So McGraw's vote is for Wagner. Anson's was for Cobb and Comiskey's was, and is for the Peach. (The Sporting News, March 19, 1931, pp. 4, column 3) by Ernest Lanigan)1931 - "Wagner could do everything required of a ball player." said McGraw as he sat in the Giants' dugout in the Polo Grounds. "he had tremendous hands and in addition to his great playing ability, had a wonderful disposition and was easy to handle.I'll place Cobb second and Keeler third. Al Simmons is my next pick as I consider him the greatest ball player of the present day. Like Wagner, he is a right-handed hitter of power and can field his position splendidly and throw fast and accurately.Simmons is no dumb ball player, either. My own first baseman, Bill Terry, is included in my selection. He is really a great ball player and the best first baseman I have ever seen." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931)(Survey asked 12 major league managers and coaches, who they thought were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)

Honus Wagner 1909 - "Cobb is the fastest man I have ever seen," he told The Sporting News. "I never thought he could have that much speed. I heard a lot about Cobb, and how fast he was, but he surprised me by the speed he showed on the bases in the World Series.NL pl. 1897-1917 Cobb is what I call a perfect player. He lacks nothing. There is not a thing a ballplayer should have that Cobb hasn't got, and he's got a bunch of things that no other ballplayer has." (Carnegie Union, Oct.21,1909) A month after the Series had ended,Pirates coach, 1933-51 Wagner joined Cobb in the fields near Macon, Georgia. The Sporting News quoted Wagner as saying: "I could have had a crack at a ground squirrel or two and perhaps a barnyard chicken, but as for hunting, Georgia won't do. Mr. Cobb is one of the most

genial gentlemen I have ever met, but there are two things we will never agree on--game and baseball…The South is all right, and Cobb's all right, too, but I wish he hadn't told me about the swell hunting in Georgia." (The Sporting News, Dec.16,1909) Undated - "I always liked Ty. He was a fighter and he knew it was a fellow's duty to protect himself out there. Lots of 'em had trouble with Ty, but I never did." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 170)1931 - "Ty Cobb was Hornsby's hero, and this is what he had to say about him: "Of course, I never saw Cobb when I was a kid, because the Tigers didn't ever come to Fort Worth, and I didn't ever get very far from it. But as far back as I can remember, I

ML man. 1926, 28, 30-37 ,52-3, 58-59 wanted to be a great hitter, and I guess there never was a greater hitter than Cobb. So he was my hero and, on account of him,the Tigers were my favorite team, and I followed him and the Tigers through the newspapers every day. I first saw himin the spring of 1916, when I was with the Cardinals in training at San Antonio and we went to Waxahachie, where the Tigers trained, to play an exhibition game. I didn't say anything to him and he didn't say anything to me, but I got a thrill out of watching him because in those days he was plenty good. He handled a bat like a billiard-cue, and he was on fire every time he got on the bases. Later I got to know him real well, and to like him as much as I thought I would when I was a kid."(Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, "They Had Their Heroes, Too", by Frank Graham) (This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, Jan. 2, 1932)1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. Ty was a tremendous outfielder with a great arm. He was outstanding in everything. Cobb was called a dirty

ballplayer because he went into a base with his spikes high but he never hurt anybody. It was his way of playing ball. He was a winner all the time. Ty would do anything to win a ball game, but when he got off the field, he was a perfect gentleman. He was outstanding in everything." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1962 - "Ty Cobb, who in my opinion is the greatest player of all time, still holds the stolen-base record of 96 he set in 1915, the year I came to the major leagues. Now cobb--I've played against him in exhibitions and managed against him in the 1921

Winter League in California when he managed the San Francisco Seals and I managed the Los Angeles Angels. He was a helluva competitor. . . He led the American League in stolen bases 6 times. Led the league in batting 12 times. And, as I've said allthrough this book, he was the greatest player I ever saw.Now Babe Ruth. They may have written more about the Babe than about George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. All I can say new about Ruth is that he hit for power--not average--and had a lifetime batting average of .342. Dead ball or lively ball, he'd hit 60home runs if they were pitching him softballs." ( My War With Baseball, by Rogers Hornsby, as told to Bill Surface, 1962, pp. 247) (Author's note: Hornsby died Jan.5, 1963)

George Sisler 1931 - "For third place you simply must make room for Ty Cobb. Ty was the most brilliant ballplayer baseball has produced, the most daring, the most spectacular. Ty was poison on the base-paths. He completely disrupted infield defense. At bat he always(AL 1B, '15-28) (NL 1B, '28-30) mixed ability with brains. He had the most versatile batting attack on record. I have publicly said many times that Ty was my own batting model, and he was. I tried to learn place hitting by watching him. No one that I ever heard of taught

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St. Louis Browns manager, 1924-26 Ty how to bat. But dozens of players owe a good deal of their own batting success to Ty's teaching. (Baseball Magazine, April , 1931, pp. 484, "The Greatest Player I Ever Saw, Comprising an Interview With George Sisler, pp. 483-484)Boston Braves coach, 1930 1942 - "If you played during the years that he was burning up the league, you cold never forget the Georgian. I know that I never will." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters

to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time" Why?""The greatness of Ty Cobb was something that had to be seen, and to see him was to remember him forever." said George Sisler, the brilliant first baseman who contended against him for more than a decade. (Ty Cobb by Charles C. Alexander, 1984, prologue 1)

"He was the greatest and most amazing ballplayer I ever saw," attested Hall of Famer George Sisler, himself a candidate for best-ever honors. (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 28)Babe Ruth 1931 - Settling on Cobb for center field, the Babe told the Associated Press, "We've got to give it to Ty because of his offensive ability. He was in a class by himself everywhere but on the defense. I would rate Hap Felsch(AL P, OF, 1915-34) of the Old White Sox and Tris Speaker far superior to Cobb on the defense. Felsch was a greater ball hawk than Speaker, and what an arm had! (The Literary Digest, February 14, 1931)Boston Braves OF, 1935 1933 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest all-around ballplayer that he has even seen. Babe Ruth declared in a recent fanning bee, in listing the stars he has seen in action during his long career on the diamond. He placed Napoleon Lajoie first among theDodger's coach, 1938 greatest natural hitters, ranking Sam Crawford second and Joe Jackson third. Walter Johnson was his choice of greatest pitcher, with Bob Grove second and Herb Pennock named the smartest. Shucks Pruett, with his screw ball, was credited with giving the

Babe his greatest trouble at bat." (Sporting News, Feb. 23, 1933, pp. 2, column 7)1936 - "The greatest ballplayer I ever saw? Well, I'll have to say Ty Cobb. He could do more with a bat than any player in my time and I don't suppose there ever was a base runner like him. They'll tell you he wasn't much of a fielder, but he was goodenough. I know he took a lot of base hits away from me out there." March 20, 1936. St. Petersburg - (Joe Williams Baseball Reader by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 84.)

rivals are on opposing sides again. Cobb having come here from his California home to manage the Western All-Stars against Babe Ruth's Easterners in Esquire's boy's baseball game at the Polo Grounds Tuesday night. "Make no mistake about that," bellowedthe home-run king. The old boy was the greatest player I ever saw or hope to see. When I was pitching I had fair success against all the other great hitters, but Cobb was one guy I never could get out. I had a reputation as a slugger and I guess I

could him 'em pretty far at that, but that guy Cobb could do everything -- better than any player I ever saw. Old Georgia Peach was a great hitter, a spectacular fielder, a wonderful thrower and oh boy, how he could run. You think I set a lot of records,"the Babe went on, wiping his brow, "why the old boy still owns, how many records is it, Ty? Forty-two?" "They say I used to scare pitchers just by strolling to the plate but those guys always had a remedy for me. Whenever they were afraid I'd knock oneout of the park, they'd walk me and their worries would be over. But once Cobb got on base then their worries really began. He would upset not only the pitcher or catcher, but the infield as well by going from, first to third on a sacrifice bunt, scoring from second on an infield out, taking two bases on an outfield fly and making delayed steals. "One of the biggest thrills I ever got out of baseball was to watch Cobb head into a base. He always reminded me of Man-of-War tearing through thehomestretch. Fans still talk about the home run I hit in the 1932 World Series off Charlie Root of the Cubs after I pointed to the right-field stands. Well I once remember Cobb beating out 4 bunts down the third base line in one game againstBilly Bradley, a wonderful third baseman for Cleveland. That was after Cobb warned Bradley he would bunt to him every time he got up. Another time Cobb warned Lou Criger, a great catcher with Boston, that he would steal second, third and home on himfirst chance he got. Well, the first time up, Cobb walked and on three pitches stole second, third and home against the dumbfounded Criger. "Yes, add that to the fact Cobb led the league 12 times in 13 years, three times with over .400 averages, finished with a lifetime mark of .367 and tops all hitters in total hits, runs, triples, total bases and stolen bases and you have the greatest player of them all.

(Washington Post, Aug. 24, 1945, pp. 12)1946 - "You can say for me that Ty Cobb was the greatest I ever saw, or ever heard about. Play him towards left center and he'd hit down the right field foul line. If you hugged the foul line he'd hit the ball into left center," Ruth thundered. "When Iwas pitching I'd always make him hit the dirt by throwing the ball at his right ear. He'd get up and try to knock the ball down my throat. When Cobb was on first, I'd count three and throw to second. When I was pitching for the Red Sox, Heinie Wagner wasour shortstop. Heinie'd block the bag, but Ty would cut him from ankle to knee with his spikes," Babe continued with gusto. "Why, Ty used to trim Home Run Baker's hair with his spikes. I guess they play more polite baseball today. In our day, Ty's and mine, the infielders wore felt shin guards." (Baseball Digest, March, 1946, by Al Buck, "Cobb Greatest" vows Ruth, condensed from the New York Post.)

Walter Johnson 1924 - Replying to the writer's query as to whom he considered the greatest all-around player player in the game, the pitcher said: That is a tough question, but if you insist upon an answer, my selection is Ty Cob. My reasons are several. He is oneWash. Senators pitcher, 1907-27 of the greatest, probably the greatest batter, that ever lived. He is an excellent fielder and a most dangerous base runner. In fact, he is a star of the highest ranking in every department of the game. But the qualifications that I have alreadyWash. Senators manager, 1929-32 mentioned are not the only measures of Cobb's usefulness. It is the zest, the never-say-die spirit with which he plays that adds to his usefulness to the team. The fight and fire of his enthusiasm of his play are confusing to his opponents and spur his

teammates to utmost efforts. In physical and tempermental equipment Ty is unexcelled and these things have put him on a pedestal as a figure that especially appeals to young player. (Washington Post, December 28, 1924, pp. SM4, "Walter Johnson's 20 Years On the Mound", as related to him by Lillian Barker)

Cleveland Indians manager, 1933-35 1925 - "In 18 years, I have never had an unfriendly word with Cobb. I consider him one of my best friends. Even when I landed from the wilds of Idaho, a raw and frightened kid, Cobb treated me right.""He was always willing to fight to win, but I don't believe Cobb ever picked a fight just for the sake of a row. Leave him alone and treat him right and he is all you expect to find in a well-mannered Southern gentleman. But start something unfair andyou'll get a fight--whether you're a ballplayer or a taxicab driver! It didn't take me long to size him up as a hot-headed young fellow who didn't mean half the things he said." (Walter Johnson by Henry W. Thomas, 1995, pp. 145)1925 - "If you're talking about great players, Ty is in a class by himself." (Baseball Magazine, The Greatest Batters I Have Ever Faced, by Walter Johnson, June, 1925, pp. 291, 292, 327, 329; quote appears on pp. 292) (Essential article, discusses Lajoie, Joe Jackson, Speaker, Cobb, Eddie Collins, Frank Baker and of course, Babe Ruth.) I consider this essential reading.1929 - "Ty was the smartest player that I ever saw by so great a margin that I won't even bother to think who was second best. And that's credit enough. For brains are just as prominent in baseball as in any other profession. Ty was always about three jumps ahead of the crowd. That's what made him such a wonderful star. You could never dope out what he was going to do next. Always, he had you guessing. He had the infield up in the air. He was continually getting the catcher's goat. The outfield couldn't lay for Ty. They never knew where he would drive the ball."

(Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)1931 - "Cobb received another first-place vote from Walter Johnson, former great right-handed pitcher and now manager of the Washington Senators. Johnson was lavish in his praise of the "Georgia Peach." He gave Wagner second place and then namedJackson, Ruth and Collins. He had a hard time deciding between Collins and Speaker, with Eddie winning by a shade." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managers and coaches, who they thought

were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)1942 - "He could do everything better than any player I ever saw. He was always the first one to detect weaknesses or mistakes of the opposition and benefit by the same." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) SportingNews mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time" Why?"

Branch Rickey 1965 - "The great unrealized and almost never-mentioned contribution of Cobb to the winning of games was his constant wrecking of pitcher concentration on the pitch. With Cobb on first, or any base for that matter, many pitchers over a period of, say,ML catcher, OF, 1905-07, 1914 twenty years became simply "throwers." He caused catchers to call for more pitch-outs by far than any player in the history of the game, thereby setting up constantly the three-and-one and two-and-nothing situations for the next batsman and givingBrowns manager, 1913-1915 repeated opportunity for the batsman to hit the "cripple.". . . I never knew of any player other than Cobb practicing sliding with the intent of using the loose foot to kick the ball out of the baseman's hand. He actually practiced that movement. And

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Cardinals manager, 1919-1925 Cobb could and did concentrate on it with great effect. It led to the general charge throughout the American League that, on occasion, he intentionally spiked the tagged. I don't think he ever spiked anyone intentionally. . . But he was not a cruelCardinals VP & Buss. manager, 1925-1942 player - not in my book. One more word on Cobb on the subject of his hitting. I may have left the impression that Cobb was not a power hitter. On several occasions he would engage in a pre-game exhibition contest of power hitting. It is said that heDodgers Pres. & GM, 1942-50 never lost a single contest. He could drive a ball for tremendous distance when that was his only purpose. I don't believe that Cobb, when batting, ever had a home run in his mind. . . . Cobb is to be understood rather than maligned unjustly. . . Pirates VP & GM, 1951-59 The truth is that Cobb is the greatest one-game player in all baseball history. He was the most positive character in the game. He was baseball's most earnest and assiduous learner. He was the greatest perfectionist, both on offense and defense.

Cardinals adviser, 1963-65 No player could come close to Cobb's record. Probably no one will ever equal it. Who's the greatest player that ever performed in the major leagues? The vote would surely be Cobb or Wagner. Take your pick. Cobb had a psychological effect on opponents which Wagner did not have. Wagner had a morale value among his teammates which Cobb did not have. If I had first chance in making up an all-time All-American team for a season's play of 154 games, I would be compelled to choose Wagner. But for

1942 - "I think he was the most sensational base-runner who ever lived. He could get more base hits than any competitor simply by worrying the pitchers to desperation and crossing up the infielders." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) GreatestDodgers' manager, 1932-36 Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars and managers. It asked, "who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?Braves' manager, 1938-43 1961 - "He was on the bases all the time, and could beat a ball club all by himself with his stealing and base-running…He was a good friend of mine. I got some very nice encouragement and suggestions from him while I was managing the Yankees." Yankees' manager, 1949-60 (Casey at the Bat by Casey Stengel, 1961, pp. 244)Mets' manager, 1962-65 1975 - "I never saw anyone like Ty Cobb. No one even close to him as the greatest all-time ballplayer. Ruth was sensational. Cobb went beyond that. When he wiggled those wild eyes at a pitcher, you knew you were looking at the one bird no one could

beat. It was like he was superhuman. (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 27)Tris Speaker 1918 - "Take Ty Cobb, for instance, the most illustrious of batters, Ty is versatile almost beyond belief. He can hit in any direction he pleases, as nearly as any batter can do so. And yet Ty has his tendencies and his preferences. When Ty is at batAL OF 1909-28 I do not play him exactly in the center of the outfield. I play him in left centre. For experience has taught me that he will hit more often in that direction than toward the opposite field. Of course Cobb is one of the hardest men in the world to play

Indians manager, 1919-26 for. Many outfielders make little or no attempt to play for him at all. But the average player is by no means in that category." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1918, pp. 825, Fine Points of the Game Which Are Lost on the Crowd, by Tris Speaker)1920 - Tris Speaker declared that "it goes without saying that Cobb still is the greatest ballplayer around," (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 318)1925 - "There's no doubt in my mind that Ty is the best all-around hitter who ever lived," reiterated Tris Speaker. "He can bunt, chop-hit, deliver long drives, or put balls out of sight." (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 363)1942 - "He could do all that any player should do and had besides great competitive spirit and the willingness to take chances at all times. (Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters toformer ML stars and managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why"1944 - "Yes, Cobb was the greatest I ever looked at," said Tris Speaker as we sat in the 4 and 20 Bar of the Hotel Carter. "There have been some better fielders--say, like Hap Felsch--and some better throwers --take Joe Jackson, for instance--but when everything is considered there has never been a man in baseball to equal Ty. If he had a weakness at bat, it was a pitch right through the middle, because he hit late.". . . I've known Ty well for all these years, and what a ball player he was! As a base runner I never saw him go out of his way to cut a man's legs off, but he read the rule books. He knew that the paths belonged to the runner." (Sporting News, January 6, 1944, pp. 7, column 1, by Ward Morehouse, Cleveland, O.)

1950 - Tris Speaker, one of the greatest outfielders of all-time, nominates Ty Cobb as the No. 1 player. Speaker insists none could compare with Cobb. "It was Ty's spirit," said Speaker, "that made him great. It was the most competitive thing insports. It not only actuated him; It kindled a flaming will to win in every member of Ty's team. And it frequently developed hysteria in the opposing nine. I know. I always played against Ty until my last year in baseball. Ty and I were then playingfor Philadelphia. His youth had gone but the fire was there. It was nice to be on his side." (Sporting News, June 7, 1950, pp.16, column 5)1954 - "When we both were young and going good," he said, "the writers were kind enough to say of me that I was the closest thing to him. Now, Let's not be immodest about this. I was good and I knew it. I had to know it because it says so in thebook. But, good as I was, I never was close to Cobb and neither was Ruth or anybody else. . . Ruth was a great ball player. But, in my opinion, Cobb was even greater; the Babe could knock your brains out, but Cobb would drive you crazy."(Speaker, continued), (Baseball Digest, Nov. - Dec., 1954, pp. 93-96, By Frank Graham)

Eddie Collins 1915 - "What Johnson is to pitchers, in my opinion, Ty Cobb is to all other players. There might be a good deal of discussion as to who is entitled to rank as the greatest player on the diamond, but not in my opinion when Cobb is still in the game.AL 2B, 1906-30 His gifts are so unusual, so far above the next best, that he stands in a class by himself. I have never seen and never expect to see from any other person such wonderful playing as Ty Cobb has performed at his very best when facing the Athletics andWhite Sox manager, 1925-26 that may be better than his usual average. It might well be and yet that average surpasses anything of which any other player is capable. I frankly admit that I never expect, have never expected to equal Cobb as a ball player. The best that any otherPhil. A's coach, 1929-32 player can hope for, in my opinion, is second place." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1915, pp. 63-63, "Collins the Great", by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 47-63)

Red Sox VP, Buss.man., treasurer, 1933-51 1924 - "Unhesitatingly I would say Ty Cobb [is the best ball player]. I won't attempt to describe him. You all know him. The most conspicious figure in the game for the past twenty years, whose wonderful natural ability, indomitable spirit, courage andaggressivenress all have assisted to raise him to heights never reached by any other ball player. (Los Angeles Times, Apr 20, 1924, pg. J8)1928 - "I find it a trifle difficult to express concisely my esteem for Ty Cobb. Since my entry into Baseball, he has been my Model and I have striven to imitate his style of play. To me, he seems Perfection, personified. It doesn't seem sufficient toto just say, "the greatest ballplayer of all time." At one time bitterest rivals, it is most gratifying to me to become a team mate of Ty's, in the closing years of our careers. I feel confident that this Most Excellent Biography of the game's Premier Player will fill a long-felt want among Mr. Cobb's great host of admirers." Edward T. Collins, Philadelphia American League Ball Club, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (Introduction to Ty Cobb: The Idol of Fandom, by Sverre O. Braathen, of the Wisconsin Bar, 1928) 1931 - Collins labeled Ty Cobb as the greatest player he ever saw. For distance hitting, he made a bow to Babe Ruth. No one ever hit the ball as hard as the big Bambino. Bur for all-around play-give Eddie the Georgia Peach. (Sporting News, Feb. 26, 1931, pp. 5, column 5)

1942 - "Why was Cobb the greatest? Obvious."(Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) (Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed over100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1944 - "Eddie Collins turned the tables on Ty Cobb when he learned that the former Detroit star had selected him as the ball player's ball player of all-time. Ty was so far superior to any other player that no one else could touch him," Collins said. Despite his natural ability as a hitter and fielder, it was his everlasting determination to be the best and to improve himself that made him the greatest player of all time." Agreeing with Cobb that Joe Jackson was the greatest of the game's hitters,

Collins explained that Jackson did not have the indomitable will that characterized Ty. (Sporting News, December 14, 1944, pp. 14, columns 4 & 5)1950 - "There was never a more dynamic player than Cobb, and as long as it had to be a player of Ty's stature that dimmed my own shining star, I can't say I have any regrets. He was in a class by himself. It's to my disadvantage there was no playergreater before him or since. In my opinion I'd have shown to much greater advantage if I had played in any era but the era of Cobb. We were good friends during our playing days and remain good friends today. There's another matter I'd like to getstraight now, too. I want to correct the erroneous impression that Cobb deliberately went out of his way to spike opposing players. It just wasn't so, and I was in a position in know - for many times I felt the lightning touch of his flying spikes. He was a very aggressive and outstanding player. He asked no quarter and gave none. I can truthfully say I remember no time that he went out of his way to cut down another player. He was a hard slider, and if that sounds like an awkward or cumbersome phrase, let me explain that the next base was always his objective. His spikes left their marks on countless players, but that was because he was such an aggressive, victory-hungry player. If anyone blocked his way a collision was inevitable. I know

the game today: Ty Cobb. (American Diamond, A Documentary of the Game, Branch Rickey, 1965)Casey Stengel, NL OF 1912-25

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from years of observation and close association with him as a rival player that he was an elusive slider who frequently slid away from a tag rather than adopt football tactics. (Sporting News, Oct. 18, 1950, pp. 14, column 1)1950 - "Ty Cobb had joined the team in 1927, as I previously stated, and our friendship blossomed into a close companionship. In fact, it was Ty who embarked me on my career as a baseball executive." (Sporting News, Nov.8, 1950, pp. 13, column 1)1950 - "Then an ambition I had long harbored was finally realized. Ty Cobb, the greatest of all baseball players, had been picked up by Connie Mack along with me. I had always wanted to play on the same team with Cobb. Ty's acquisition by Connie Mack seemed as fantastic as the selection by Mr. Comiskey in 1924 of Chance as manager of the White Sox. It just seemed inconceivable that Cobb would ever be seen in a uniform other than that worn by the Tigers. He had the same indomitable spirit he had

when I first played against him years earlier, but the old legs had started to go and where the spirit was plenty willing the muscles refused to co-ordinate in the manner of other years. His trigger-like brain however, was still functioning on allcylinders and it was a joy to watch him in action." (Sporting News, November 1, 1950, pp. 14, column 5)1924 - "Some people used to ridicule that standing order in baseball, to throw the ball one base ahead of Ty. but it was no joke. It was frequently done. In the old days you never could afford to take the slightest chance with Ty. If you did, hewould generally outwit you. His amazing dash and nerve and instantaneous get-a-way were a tricky and brilliant combination to beat. There probably have been players faster than Ty on a straight-away dash. I will even concede there have been players asfast as he in getting down to first. Burt Shotton was a veritable arrow in his day. But Ty had them all stopped when it came to consistent, persistent, daring base-running at any and all times. He was like compressed steam, always exerting pressure,always searching out a weak spot here and there to display his seemingly inexhaustible and tireless energies. Doubtless, when I have said Good-bye to baseball, there will appear in future days some young phenomenon whom scribes and public will hail as greater than Ty Cobb. But they will have some contract on their hands to convince me, and I will cheerfully travel a big distance for a chance to see that player when he appears. For if he's better than Ty Cobb, it will be worth all the exertion of along journey just to see him perform on a diamond. . . . It has always been a regret in my career that I never saw Hans Wagner play. generally conceded the greatest of shortstops, he must have been a wonder. But I know of him only through hearsay.

(Collins, continued, Baseball Magazine, March, 1924, pp. 435-436, 16 Years As A Big League Star, by Eddie Collins, 435-437, 468)1962 - Barbara Tyler was private secretary to Collins for many years. According to Miss Tyler, Collins never talked in glowing terms about any other player the way he did about Ty. "If you ever wanted Mr. Collins to extol the virtues of a great ballplayer, " Miss Tyler stated, "all you had to mention was Ty's name. Then Mr. Collins would go on for hours telling about the greatest player who ever lived." (Sporting News, January 3, 1962, pp. 17, column 5)

1942 - "I naturally appreciate all the nice things Ty has said about me being the 'greatest hitter in baseball," but that is one time the Georgia Peach is wrong.The greatest hitter and the greatest player I ever saw was one Tyrus Raymond Cobb." (Sporting News, Sept. 24, 1942, pp. 8, column 7)

Sam Crawford 1961,July - "One of the greatest of all ball players, but not the greatest. I put him on the same level with Honus Wagner. We always got along well, despite what people said. We were friends." "I regarded Cobb on a level with Honus Wagner as perhapsCinc. OF, 1899-1902 the greatest of all time, but would not pick Ty individually as the better of the two."Detroit OF, 1903-17Minor L. ; LA Angels, 1918-21 to get along with. He wasn't a friendly, good-natured guy, like Wagner was, or Walter Johnson, or Babe Ruth. ... Well, who knows, maybe if he hadn't had that persecution complex, he never would have been the great ballplayer that he was.

He was always trying to prove he was the best, on the field and off. And maybe he was, at that." (The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence S. Ritter, March 27 & Aug.1, 1964, audio tapes, also pp. 59, 61 of book.1951 - "I never get tired of talking about him," he said. "He was the greatest player I ever saw. He'd drag a bunt or push a bunt or drive a ball through the mound so that your life was never completely safe at any time. I had a little trouble with

him occasionally, but we were too busy trying to win to have any other problems." (Sporting News, May 23, 1951, pp. 7, column 4 & 5)1961 - "The best baseball player in the world has died. It is too bad for the profession that he had to leave us so that the young players coming up won't get to know him. He was a fighter till the last." (Cleveland Plain Dealer, July 18, 1961, pp. 26)1925 - Before Cobb had eye surgery to remove a filmy growth from his eyes in early March, 1926, Cobb had complained during the '26 season that he had had trouble following the ball. To which Bob (Lefty) Grove had this to say. "And he says he's going blind. There's nobody in the league I hate to pitch to more." (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 361)1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint ofdrawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why" 1971 - "If they ask, he'll tell them about Ty Cobb ("the greatest and the meanest ballplayer who ever lived") (Sporting News, Feb. 20, 1971, pp. 46, column 4, by Jack Murphy)1942 - "He did everything perfectly." (Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

AL manager (1934-46, 51-54, 58-61)AL coach (1949-50, 63-64), NL coach (1955-59, 62) " 'Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player who ever pulled on a pair of shoes,' was the way Jimmy emphasized it. " 'I'm certainly not questioning Ruth's greatness. Babe had the glamour and he was good. However, there isn't a player who ever lived who could

match Cobb's greatness in so many departments. Name any phase of the game and you always end up agreeing that Cobb was the master. It adds up to greatness. The trouble with these polls is that too many of the voters never saw the men they were rating. I've been lucky in that respect. I started playing in the American League in 1916 and have remained in it--except for the two years I ran the Hollywood club." (Sporting News, March 1, 1950, pp. 14, column 3)1962 - "There is no question about the man's greatness, and that should be the end of it," Jimmie replied. ""I played with him and against him and had the greatest respect for the man on and off the field. . .Ty was distant off the field and there arethose who tend to degrade this type of person. But, that didn't bother Ty or detract from his great ability as a player. As for the charges that he deliberately spiked his opponents, it's hogwash. Ty was a hard competitor and all he asked for on theplaying field was what he was entitled to. If he knocked out a base-hit, he wanted a piece of that base to arrive safely. Naturally, if some clown was foolish enough to block the bag, he would have to suffer any consequences that might result."(Sporting News, February 21, 1962, pp. 31, column 2)1967 - "Picking the outfield is easy. In left, Ty Cobb, who knew every possible trick in the book that'd get him on and then show some new ones to us who got in his way. No one has yet surpassed Ty as a hitter and baserunner and no one ever will." ( YouCan't Steal First Base" by Jimmy Dykes, 1967, pp. 205, 209)

1976 - "But Cobb was the greatest all-around ballplayer of them all. I played against him for years." (The Man In the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 283)1925 - "I wasn't in the league when Cobb was at this best as a baser-runner. But I found him always dangerous once he reached first. If his legs had slowed up a bit, he headwork hadn't. He was the best slider in the league. I've never found a man

AL Manager, 24-56, exc.43-46, 49, 53-54, harder to tag. I might not have looked as good at second if I'd been there whe the Georgian was in his prime as a base-runner. Cobb developed himself by hard work and using his brains. Men who knew him whem he was breaking in said he worked twice as

Phillies Manager, 1943 hard as any of the other Detriot players. He never loafed. His energy was amazing. He was the finished product long before I entered the league. He had perfected himself in every detail. If you gave him half a chance he was sure to outguess you. He backed his natural speed with intelligent effort. Cobb was a self-made success if there ever was one. In my judgement he was the greatest of them all." (Los Angeles Times, Feb 2, 1925, pg. 10) By 1931, Bucky had swung to Babe as the greatest player ever.1933 - "The greatest baserunner I have ever seen and certainly the equal of any man as an all-round player, was Ty Cobb. He out-smarted 'em all." (Sporting News, Nov. 2, 1933, pp. 6, column 5)

White Sox coach, (1923-25, '28-30), White Sox manager, (1924) 1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and hisweak arm, there was nothing like him in baseball--on the paths and hitting. (Sporting News, Oct. 24, 1940, pp. 5, column 6)1930 - "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)

Joe Jackson, AL OF 1910-20

1964 - "Cobb was great, there's no doubt about that; one

Cy Young, NL pitcher(1890-1900), AL pitcher(1901-11)

Bill Terry, (NL pl. 1923-36), (Giants manager, 1932-41)Lefty Grove, AL P, 1925-40

Carl Mays, (AL pitcher, 1915-23), (NL pitcher, 1924-29)

Jimmy Dykes, AL 3B, 2B (1918-1939)

1950 - Dykes for Ty Over Babe - Roy Cannton, Los Angeles Mirror

Bucky Harris, AL 2B, 1919-29,31

Ed Walsh, AL pitcher, 1904-16

George Moriarty, (AL 3B, '06-17) (AL ump, '17-41, exc. '27-28)

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1914 - "I have seen them all," said Bobbie Lowe, the veteran Boston and Detroit infielder, "but Cobb stands alone, the greatest of all time. I doubt if there will ever be another like him." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1914)1950 - "There have been luminaries at every position, but you can take it from me no matter what anybody else says, and a lot of them have had plenty to say, nobody ever came close to the all-round class of Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the greatest ball playerof his or any other man's time." (Sporting News, November 15, 1950, pp. 14, column 5)1917 - "There were great players when I broke into the game as a green youngster, great players who would rank with the best of today. But I must except Ty Cobb's name from that list. Cobb is the best ballplayer I ever saw. I will never admit that

St. Louis Browns SS (1902-16) baseball has seen his equal and I doubt if it does again within the experience of those now living. There are great ball players and then there is Ty Cobb." (Baseball Magazine, Feb., 1917, pp. 16, "The Oldest Player", pp. 15-16)St. Louis Browns manager (1911-12) 1954 - By 1954, however, he had switched to Lajoie as best ever. "He still speaks of Napoleon Lajoie, his personal "greatest of the great," with the unaffected idolatry of a bat boy looking up at Babe Ruth. . . . We used to call Ty 'The Reb" and I was Cinc. coach (1926), Cinc. manager (1937) one of his warmest admirers. I won't say, however, that some of the boys, including Jimmy McAleer, felt the same. "Cobb's greatness? Well, with Ty baseball was more than a mental and physical test. It was an affair of the spirit and in the early days,

when the Georgia Peach was burning up the league, so intense was his desire to win that in the heat of battle there were times, I believe, when he would have laid down his life for victory." It is the seeming lack of this all-out spirit in modernbaseball which gripes old-timers. And, loyal to his era and generation, Wallace feels the same. (Sporting News, March 31, 1954, pp. 16, column 4 & 5, Bobby Wallace Story, by Louis Lee Arms)

Red Faber 1953 - "The Babe always fooled a lot of pitchers by missing a certain pitch and then lambasting one in the same spot the very next time," Faber said. "I never came back with one in the same place or the same speed if he missed the first time."White Sox pitcher(1914-33), White Sox coach (1946-48) That's why it's not hard for me to say that Ty Cobb was tougher to pitch to. He could do anything with that bad, and he couldn't be fooled. But even Cobb didn't give me as much trouble as Jack Barry, a .250 hitter, or Stuffy McInnis. "

(By Ben Foote, Phoenix (AZ) Gazette, Feb.11, 1953)

1961 - "I'll bet I pitched 5 games against Cobb as long as we were together in the league. You could fool him, but you couldn't keep him fooled. I had fair luck pitching to him. . . . You had to keep an eye on him. . . I could strike him out, but hewas the greatest I ever pitched to; pitching to Babe Ruth was a cinch compared to pitching to Cobb. No one ever played harder than Cobb. He'd beat you himself after others had given up. He wasn't particularly popularwith the players. His aggressiveness was the reason for that. He was no angel to play against." (New York Times, July 17, 1961) (Subsequent research has shown that from 1914 - 28, Ty Cobb went 55 for 164 against Red Faber for a career .335 BA. Ty Cobb

by Richard Bak, 1994, pp. 52)1961 - "We've lost a lot of great ball players. Now, we've lost the greatest." (NY Times, July 17, 1961, pp. 21)"You can't take it away from him, though," Leifield said, "He was the greatest." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July, 1961, 'Greatest,' Says Leifield Of Cobb; Pruett recalls fanning Ty on 3 Pitches; by William J. McGoogan)

Browns coach (1921-23), Red Sox coach (1924-26), Det. coach (1927-28)Harry Hooper 1917 - "To my mind Cobb's chief greatness lies not in fielding or even batting with all his wonderful record. I think his most conspicuous talent is his base running. This is never given the credit it deserves. You can learn nothing by saying thatAL OF, 1909-1925 Cobb stole sixty bases and somebody else stole fifty. Cobb not only steals bases, he breaks up games by stealing bases. He smashes the defense of a club, gets the fielders up in the air and completely demoralizes the opposition. As a base runner he is

in a class by himself and I don't believe baseball ever saw his close rival." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917, pp. 285-286, The Immense Value of Base Stealing by Ty Cobb)1958 - "But to my way of thinking, the majors have yet to come up with someone who can match Ty Cobb. Cobb was the greatest ball player I have

ever seen. Maybe he wasn't the greatest outfielder of all time--but how he could hit and run those bases. And what aggression!" (Sporting News, February 20, 1957, pp. 15, column 1 & 2)1963 - To Editor of The Sporting News: I am following with interest your stories on Ty Cobb. He used to visit me occasionally and was always friendly with me. . . He must have suffered intense pain near the end. Under these conditions we should not betoo critical of his actions during the last months of his life. I prefer to remember him as a great ball player and a fierce competitor, and later as a mellowed, friendly man. Harry Hooper, Capitola, Calif. (Sp. News, January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 3)1966 - Later, in a mid-60's interview with author Lawrence Ritter, Hooper had this to say in The Glory of their Times, 1966, pp. 131," That Willie Mays, he's one of the greatest center fielders who ever lived. You can go back as far as you want and nameall the great ones -- Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush, Max Carey, Earle Combs, Joe DiMaggio. I don't care who you name, Mays is just as good, maybe better. He's a throwback to the old days. A guy who can do everything, and plays like he loves it.

Jim Bagby 1920 - "Babe Ruth has hit me for one home run only. . . I think that Ruth has a weakness for the simple reason that I think every batter has a weakness. But I am frank to confess I don't know what it is. Ruth is an awful slugger. There is nobody likeAL P (1916-22), NL P (1912, 23) him. But I have an automobile business in Augusta, Ga., about four blocks from where Ty Cobb hangs out, and if any one wants to tell me that a greater player than Cobb ever lived, he will have to start talking now and keep on until he has me hypnotized.

Babe and Ty are not in the same class." (Baseball Magazine, Oct., 1920, pp. 530, column 1, "James Bagby, A Pitcher Who can Think", by F.C. Lane, pp. 529-530)Joe Wood 1975 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer that ever lived, in my estimation. And I think any old ballplayer that played in those years would tell you the same thing. I don't think there's anybody that ever saw Cobb play in his heyday who wouldn't say, AL Pitcher & OF (1908-22) without a doubt: Cobb. If there'd been a higher league, he'd have been the only one in it. …I wouldn't say Cobb played dirty. Cobb always told me and other fellows he played against, "All you've got to do is give me room to get in there and it'll be

all right, but if you don't give me room, I'll cut my way in." Fair enough. He had no weaknesses….He just had it. Cobb never had very many friends, but he was a very good friend of mine…Ruth?…But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he wasa great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer….I played against Wagner a lot, too. We had quite a few little exhibition games, because they had their training camp at Hot Springs,Ark., in the same place as the Red Ox did, for years and years. They had their park and we had our park. I never had much trouble with old Honus, though I got him in his later years, when he had seen his best days. He used to stand away back in thebox, then step up in as he hit, and I usually had that ball by there before he got up.(Chuckle.) (Baseball Research Journal, 1987, #16, pp. 54)(This was a reproduced 1975 interview by Mark Alvarez)1979 - "Cobb, of course. Nobody who watched him play could ever forget it." 1984 - "He was the best ballplayer I ever saw. I always said if there was a league higher than the majors,Ty Cobb would be the only fellow in it." (Forgotten Fields, Paul Green, 1984, pp. 18)

Johnny Evers 1912 - "I am not alone in this high opinion of Ty Cobb's work. This view of min, I believe, is shard by practically every other member of the National League. . . Cobb's marvelous showing as a batter is alone enough to insure his reputation for allNL 2B (1902-17) time. Add to this, however, his uncanny ability as a base runner--an ability in which he stands unequaled, his record-breaking feats as a run getter, his all-around brilliancy as a fielder, his quickness, dash and execution of daring feats almost

NL coach (1920-21, 29-32), AL coach (1922-24) instantaneously, and they place him a little above and beyond the rank of any other player in the game to-day. But whether he improves or not in the next few seasons which are left him for active play, his career up to date clearly entitles him to thehonor of being considered the greatest player in the world of baseball. I believe no fair-minded critic will deny this statement. . . . but all sections and all cities, whether or not they agree on any other single topic in baseball, all agree in giving Cobb credit for standing without a peer. He is the universal comparison of the highest ability. It is the greatest praise which can be given a coming star to say that he is a second Ty Cobb. Cobb is the model, the perfect stamp of the truly great ball

player. But when all allowance has been made for the changes in the National game, and the different style of play, I am confident that Cobb would be almost universally considered unrivaled in past or present. I know it may seem like exaggeratedpraise from a player of another club and league. I believe that the vast majority of players, critics and fans will agree that Cobb is the wizard of the diamond, whose like the game has never seen. But whether they do agree or not, my own opinion isfixed. and that opinion, briefly stated, is that Ty Cobb of the Detroit Tigers is the greatest player baseball has ever known. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 13, "Ty Cob, from the Point of View of a National Leaguerby John J. Evers)1916 - John Evers is the smartest player in the National League, bar none. Let us hear what the inimitable John has to say: "I have seen considerable baseball in my time, and some people might think I would get tired of it. But I would pay my littledollar any time and sit in the grand stand or the bleachers, or anywhere else, for a chance to see Cobb play. There's only one Cobb, and there's nobody like him. There never was, and there never will be, in my opinion. That's what I think of Ty Cobb.Cobb would put the punch in any team. But with two redoubtable associates who uphold his right hand and his left, he makes of the Detroit trio a thing incomparable, supreme, by a wide margin the greatest outfield in the land."

Bobby Lowe, NL 3B,SS (1890-03), AL (1904-07), Det. man., 1904Bill Bradley, NL 3B (1899-03), AL pl. (1901-10), Clev. man. 1905

Bobby Wallace, NL 3B,SS (1894-01, '17-18)

Dizzy Dean, NL P (1930, 32-41), Cubs coach (1941)Lefty Leifield, NL P (1905-13), AL P(1918-20),

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(Baseball Magazine, July, 1916, pp. 69) (The reference to "2 redoubtable associates" obviously referred to Sam Crawford & Bobby Veach)1920 - The principal difference, as I see it, is that the National League leads by a mile in pitchers and the American leads by the same distance in outfielders. Cobb is still king and a mighty fine fellow. My friendship for him dates back to theDetroit-Cub World's Series and right there I want to spike an old and musty rumor. Lots of people claim Cobb didn't play much of a game against us in those world's series. I will go on record as saying that he played a whale of a game, but he had mightystiff opposition. We were all laying for him, and when a team like the Cubs lays for a certain player that player has his work cut out for him. In the wrestling match between the whole Cub team and Cobb the odds were a little too long on the team and

against the individual. But Cobb surprised us all by his gameness and nerve, and he was a good loser. I expected to find him a little swell-headed - I would have forgiven him for being so, for he had a right to be if any player ever had - but he wasn'tanything of the sort. He proved himself to be not only a wonderful player but a good loser, and that's something more." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1920, pp. 526, column 3, "On the Outside, Looking In", from interview with John Evers, pp. 525-526). April, 1930, Baseball Magazine, Evers switched to Wagner as #1.

Riggs Stephenson 1984 - "He was the greatest ballplayer I ever played with or against. Of course you couldn't compare he and Babe Ruth because they were different types of ballplayers. Ty was a great player, anyone who could hit over .360 for a whole career, that'sAL 2B 1921-25; NL OF 1926-34 something. I remember Babe could really hit too, I had a pretty good year one year, and Babe still hit a little more than I did. (Forgotten Fields, by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 85)

1942 - "You never knew what he was going to do next." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball playerWash coach (1928-29, 38-52) of all time. Why?"Benny KauffAL OF, 1912, Federal L. OF, 1914-15, NL OF, 1916-20 good as he is he would beat me out, for he has much more experience than I have, so these fake claims are ridiculous. . . . "Why shouldn't I become a great player if I am lucky? That is my ambition; I admit it and I will try as hard as I can to equal Ty

Cobb or anyone else. But I know that I have a long way to go first, and, of course, I may never realize my ambition." (Los Angeles Times, April 18, 1916, pp. III4, "BENNIE KAUFF TELLS HIS OWN STORY OF "HOLDOUT."1922 - "Nick disagrees with his famous co-worker, Ed Walsh, that Nap Lajoie was the greatest batsman of his time. Nick is inclined to hand the palm to Ty Cobb. "It made no difference where I put the ball, Ty Cobb would kill it. When he failed to get

Wash. coach (1912-53) three or four hits off me I figured I was pitching invincible ball. Larry, the records will show, was not tough for me to handle. Of course he smacked my delivery hard at times, but as a general proposition I think I had it on him."(Sp. News, Jan. 7,1922)1942 - "His never-say-die spirit and his nerve predominated." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball playerof all time. Why?"

Lee Fohl, 1918 - "Mind, I am not criticising Cobb in any way. Cobb's batting is phenomenal, and as a base runner he has no known equal. And he may have all the baseball brains in the world. In fact, I am inclined to believe he has. But his batting and hisCleve. manager (1915-19), Browns manager (1921-23) base running are largely types of mechanical abilitt in which I would say he is unrivalled." (Baseball Magazine, January, 1918, pp. 305, "Baseball Brains", by Lee Fohl, pp. 280, 304, 305)Red Sox manager (1924-26), Browns coach (1920) 1926 - "Take the case of Ty Cobb as a good illustration. Ty was fast. That was always a thing in his favor. He could never have become what he has become If it were not for his speed. But there have been other players who were fast, as fast as

Cobb, but they didn't develop into Cobbs. What happened in Ty's case was this. He had uncommon natural gifts. Make no mistake on that point. But he also had the ambition to do a little better than the next fellow. And that ambition, in his case, has been the driving force which has urged him on full speed for more than twenty years and gained for him a player reputation which has not been matched. That secret force, in my opinion, is the true explanation of Cobb's great work. It was the real

reason why he grew better as he went along. Good as he was, he wasn't satisfied to stand still. He was always trying to improve, to do better work than he had ever done before." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 208, How Psychology May Make or break ) (Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 298, column 3, "How Psychology May Make or Break a Pennant Winner", by Lee Fohl, pp. 298, 335 )1928 - "Why is Ty Cobb called the greatest player who ever lived? There are a number of answers. His grand batting average is better than that of any other player. He hit over .300 for twenty-two years, a record. He made over four thousand hits. These and similar items of statistics come readily to any fan who is discussing the game's best. But such figures are plain dope. Was Cobb a better hitter than Joe Jackson? He himself has admitted that Rogers Hornsby was the greatest hitter he ever saw.Was Cobb a better player, say, than Tris Speaker? What is the foundation of Cobb's great reputation? It's the dope. I'm not offering any criticism of dope. I understand too well the value of dope to the ball player. It's really his stock in trade,the gauge of his ability." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1928, pp. 387, column 1, "What the Baseball Records Mean to the Player", from an interview with Willie Kamm, pp. 387-388, 421-422)1927 - "When a reporter interrupted to ask whether Cobb had got any of the money, Risberg replied that he doubted it, adding, "There never was a better or straighter baseball player than Cobb, or Speaker, either, to my way of thinking."(Risberg, continued), (Ty Cobb by Charles C. Alexander, 1984, pp. 192) (quote given on Jan. 1,1927)1942 - "Cobb's base-running and all-round ability match Ruth's slugging." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

Cards man. (1929,40-45), Browns man. (1946-51), Giants coach (1933) ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He was good in the pinch. He could do everything but throw." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ballWhite Sox manager, 1928-29, AL coach, (1927-28, 30, 33-40, 42-43) player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He was quick on the trigger and ten jumps ahead of you." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest Wash. coach (1940-1942) manager (1943-47) ball player of all time? Why?"

1957 - "Only a man who played against him could appreciate his greatness. Sure, I had some run-ins with him. What infielder didn't? But he made a better player out of me. You had to play your level-best against him." (Sporting News, April 3, 1957, pp. 4, column 3)1984 - "Cobb was a phenomenal ballplayer. . .A tough competitor is right. . . . He was just a magician, that's what he was , and he played on your nerves, too. (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 96)1942 - "He was a combination of everything." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Wash. manager (1946-1948) 1974 - "I saw quite a bit of Cobb. I'd say he was probably the greatest all-around batter. He could hit the ball anywhere he wanted to, and he'd hit it wherever you pitched it. And he had so many gimmicks. In the spring he'd wear a long-sleeveDetroit coach (1949-1953), Brooklyn coach (1954) shirt down to his wrists, and if you pitched a ball inside to him, he'd contrive to have it hit that baggy sleeve and he'd get on first base. In a close ball game I tried to keep it away from him, not give him a chance to do that to me, because he was a

streak on those bases. He could upset a whole ball club. . .I try to keep up with baseball today as much as I can. I watch it on television, and I read The Sporting News. Sure I still read The Sporting News. . .about 1914 or so. And I haven't missed

an issue of The Sporting News since." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 117, 125) 1984 - "Sure he would, he'd use everything. He was the best at hitting the ball where he wanted to hit it. He was a kind of different man after he got out of baseball. He never did have many friends, but when he got out actively he had a good many

friends. I don't think you should hold being aggressive against a fellow, I think you ought to give him a big hand. A lot of them you'd like to give a boot and tell them to get a little more aggressive. Paul Green: It's strange, I know Joe Wood really liked him. Ted Lyons: I did too. Paul Green: But to read the stories you'd assume he didn't have a friend in the world. Ted Lyons: Well, he was a different man when he'd put the suit on. He was like Johnny Evers, when he put that uniform on he was a wild man. (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 114)1985 - "When Cobb was through as a player, he was a wonderful guy to visit with. I remember coming back from a trip to Japan with Moe Berg and Lefty O'Doul. Cobb was waiting to meet somebody, and said, "Let's talk baseball.' And so we did, for 30

Clyde Milan, AL OF (1907-22)

1916 - KAUFF SAYS COBB IS BEST. "These claims that I would beat out Ty Cobb are bunk. I have been quoted as saying so a good many times. But I am willing to admit that Ty Cob is the greatest player on the diamond by a long shot. Even if I was as

Nick Altrock, AL P (1902-09)

Willie Kamm, AL 3B (1923-35)

Swede Risberg, AL SS (1917-20)

Billy Southworth, AL (1913,15), NL (1918-27,29)

Lena Blackburn, AL SS,3B (1910,12,14-15), NL 3B, (1918-19)

Ossie Bluege, AL 3B (1922-39)

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minutes. When he had the uniform on, he was like Johnny Evers, who was a maniac on the field. You hear a lot about Cobb being like that, but Evers was even worse." (Baseball Digest, August, 1985, Hostile Side of Ty Cobb Still Lingers in Memory by John Erardi of The Cincinnati Enquirer)1931 - "Ty Cobb was always my model of a ballplayer. He played the outfield. I think he was the greatest ballplayer who ever lived, far ahead of the Babe Ruths and the Lou Gehrigs and all the others. But what made him a great ballplayer? "Speed, you

NL pitcher, 1932 say. That was part of it. But other players have been as fast. Ability to hit never carried him there. Other players were better natural hitters. And you can make up a pretty long list of better fielders. But when you've got through, you'll find

only one Cobb. And the thing that made him great, that explained his success, was a belly full of guts. Cobb was a born fighter. He fought opposing pitchers, and infielders and coaches. He fought his own teammates. He fought everybody and he madegood. That's what the public admires, a fighter. I may not have used good horse sense in some of my actions since I put on a baseball uniform. But at least I've tried to show that I wasn't weak in the midrif. I prefer to have people criticize my head any day rather than my midriff. And that's true not only of baseball but of anything else. I realize my limitations, but I'll fight anybody, any time for a chance to make good." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1931, pp. 400, "Art Shires, Publicity Getter Extraordinary", by F.C. Lane )1938-43 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest all-around player. . . Babe Ruth revolutionized the game by starting the home run craze." (Abington Journal (Ohio), 1938-43)1913 - "Cobb is the greatest player in the history of the game--the perfect ball player. Other men have been great fielders, great batters, great base runners. Sometimes a great fielder has been a great batter as well, or a great base runner, or a

AL manager (1901-1911), Red Sox President (1913) great base runner has been a great batter, but Cobb is all of these things. He can do everything as well as anybody ever did anything in the history of the game. Cobb brings out the crowds. I suppose he boosts the attendance figures by 5,000 at least.The old fans want to compare him with the old players, and the new fans can't keep their eyes off him. Cobb has quickened the game--no doubt about that. They are all playing faster since he came."

(Baseball Magazine, January, 1913, pp. 92, "Great Players Make Great Teams, by Jimmy McAleer, pp. 92)1950 - "Ty Cob was the greatest player during the first half of the century, according to Manager Burt Shotton of the Dodgers, who disagrees with the sportswriters, who gave the honor to Babe Ruth. I saw them both in their prime," explained Shotton,

Cardinals coach (1923-1925), "and while Ruth may be the sentimental favorite, nobody comes close to Cobb in my book. Cobb couldn't hit home runs like Ruth and the Babe won a lot of games, with his blows, but nobody won as many games, all by himself, as Cobb did. . . . Yes, there was

Phillies coach (1928-1933) nobody like old Tyrus Raymond Cobb!" (Sporting News, April 5, 1950, pp. 4, column 1)Reds coach (1934), Cleveland coach (1942-45), 1950 - "Why don't they ask those who saw both Ruth and Cobb in their prime which is the better player?" Shotton wanted to know. "Why don't they ask me? I played against both," he went on, "and to me there was none that ever came close to Cobb. Brooklyn Dodgers coach (1947-1950) Anybody who played against him would tell you there never was a player like Cobb. , , ,I bet Cobb could beat you more times than Ruth and in more ways," he said, "There wasn't a thing that Ty couldn't do. He hit over .400 three times. He once stole 96Phillies manager (1928-33), Dodgers manager (1947-1950) bases in a season. He collected over 4,000 hits and scored more than 2,000 runs. Sure, Ruth was a great home run hitter," Shotton conceded, "but they had to change the game for him. They made over the ball. They even built a ball park to suit him."

Shotton said he always got along well with Cobb, despite Ty's fiery reputation. "I just never spoke to him," Burt grinned. "Cobb wasn't the fastest runner, but he led the league in stolen bases nearly every year. He wasn't the most powerful hitter, buthe led the league in home runs once and in total bases many times. He wasn't the greatest outfielder, but he had more assists than anybody else. And tell me who was nervier, who took more chances, and who took better advantage of an enemy slip?Yes, son, there was nobody like Cobb. And there will never be anybody like him." (Dallas, Texas, April 6, (AP)1950) This sidebar appeared soon after the Associated Press poll, in which the sports writers voted Ruth 1, Cobb 2. Most never saw either play.1962 - "Let me tell you about Cobb," he began in that raspy, peremptory voice. Instatly he made his position clear. "I've been in baseball fifty-three years and have yet to see Cobb's equal."

Senators coach, 1925-34, Red Sox coach, 1935-36 (NY Times, "? 13, 1962, pp. 43, "Sports of the Times", by Arthur Daley)1962 - "Ty came into my restaurant for several years before he passed away and I could see what kind of a man he was when not in uniform. A wonderful and kind guy. I believe anything written about him being a bad individual was due to the fact that asa ball player, he was a great competitor and therefore he made enemies because he would beat you by outsmarting you at the bat and especially on the bases. He was fiery and mean when playing and that meant from the time he walked on the field until the game was over. He attracted so much attention from the ball players and the fans that they picked on him for the least little flaw they could find, whether it was personal or in his playing. He was the only player I ever knew who dominated a game fromthe start to the finish. He wanted to be the best on and off the field and by being that way he made enemies on the way through life. . . . There were some great ball players in his time and some great ones since, but in my book he was the greatest and he will remain that way long after these false statements made about him have been found groundless." (Sporting News, Jan. 24, 1962, pp. 12, column 1)1966 - "All in all, I have been a part of baseball for 55 years. I've seen the greatest and played with and against the greatest. None could come close to comparing with Ty Cobb. He was the smartest and most daring in addition to having unequaledability as a hitter and baserunner. With Cobb it was not only what he did but how he did it. He is the only ballplayer I ever saw who dominated a game as soon as he walked on the field. No one reacted to a challenge with more zest, intensity, andeffectiveness than Cobb. . . It's too bad that the present generation never had the chance to see him play as I did as a fan, pitcher and coach. . .Cobb had it all. I agree that Wagner was great. But the greatest ballplayer ever to step on a diamond wasTyrus Raymond Cobb. (New York Times, Jan. 28, 1966, pp. 24, "In Total Dissent", by Arthur Daley)

1944 - "He was the No. 1 ball player of his time, and still is No. 1 in my book. . . . I can't rate the Babe over Ty. Ruth could hit home runs, but Cobb was superlative, doing anything else on a ball field. And that man Lajoie was the greatest machinePres. In'tnational League, 1919-20, Pres. Players Fraternity, 1910's yet seen around second base. He was a marvel afield and at bat." (Sporting News, January 27, 1944, pp. 5, column 2)

1967 - "You and I and everyone else who saw him play know he was the greatest. He was daring, alert and had tremendous reflexes," said Joe. (Sporting News, January 28, 1967, pp. 23, column 3)Red Sox (1918-21), Yanks (1922-24),

1990 - "Cobb was the greatest player of all time, but he was jealous of anybody hitting better than he did." (Oral History of the AL, 1920-1940, by Eugene Murdock, 1991. pp. 164)1991 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest ball-player I ever saw," Hoff once said. "He could do everything. He was better than Ruth, if you ask me." (NY Times, September 24, 1998, obituaries)1991 - "The greatest hitter of all time was Ty Cobb," Hoff affirms without reservation. (Oldtyme, Baseball News, Volume III, Issue 1, pp. 17, column 3, by James A. Riley & Renwick W. Speer)1961 - "Nap Rucker, former major league mound star, discussing ball players of the past and present, recently said: "Fellows like Ty Cobb, Hans Wagner and Joe Jackson were just as great as reports said they were. They had to be great to do with the

ball what they did. Cobb was the greatest of them all. I never saw another man with the determination he had. That's what made him --determination. I could outrun him on a straight-away and he wasn't a natural hitter. He just made himself good." (Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 13, column 3)1916 - "Billy Hamilton was a wonderful baserunner," says Callahan. "there is no mistake about that. But if he had played last year and stole 96 bases, as Cobb did, I would say he had beaten his old mark of 156 so far as real merit is concerned. I

AL P, 1901-02, AL OF, 1903-05, 11-13 remember on the old Phillies the rule used to be with Hamilton at the plate. 'Don't hit until he's stolen third.' How far would such a rule go nowadays. It wasn't so difficult then as now to steal a base for various reasons. On the other hand, if the AL manager, 1903-04, 12-14 Tigers had built their system of attack around Cobb's speed he would have stolen quite a few beyond the hundred mark last year. The two records are not to be compared because they were made under entirely different conditions Furthermore, Hamilton was NL manager, 1916-17 no such a force on a ball club as Cobb is.

"Bill Lange was a better fielder than Ty Cobb. And he was one grand ball player. But when you compare him with Ty Cobb, in my mind, you are committing a bad bone. They don't compare that's all. You could go into a grand stand wherever the Tigers are playing and you wouldn't have to know any of the players or the batting order. But after you had seen a game you would be able to pick Cobb out from the other Tigers solely on his remarkable personality. If he had a medium day at the bat oron the base paths you would know who Cobb was all right, for you would see him accomplish things that other players don't accomplish, that's all. In my opinion Cobb is the greatest player who has ever lived by a considerable margin. . . . I have seen

Art Shires, AL pitcher, 1928-30

Joe "Lefty" Shaute, AL pitcher (1922-30)(NL,1931-34)Jimmy McAleer, AL OF (1901-1911)

Burt Shotton, AL OF (1911-1918), NL OF (1919-1922)

Al Schacht, Senators P, 1919, 20-21

Dave Fultz, NL OF, 1898-99, AL OF, 1901-05

Joe Bush, AL pitcher (1912-26)

Joe Hauser, AL 1B, 1922-24, 26, 28-29Chet Hoff, AL P, 1911-13, 15

Nap Rucker, NL pitcher (1907-1916)

Jimmy Callahan, NL P, 1894, 1897-1900

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many outfielders, past and present, and to my mind Tris speaker is the greatest player at the position I have ever met." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1916, pp. 53, "Callahan, the Cast Off Manager", by John J. Ward, pp. 53-58)1925 - On August 29,1925, the city of Detroit celebrated the 20th anniversary of Ty Cobb's career as a Detroit baseball player with a testimonial dinner at the Book-Castillar Hotel. Ty was eulogized as "the greatest player who ever lived," by Ban Johnson, Connie Mack, Billy Evans, Frank J. Navin, Jimmy Callahan, Mayor John W. Smith, Arthur (Bugs) Baer. (Reach AL Guide, Feb.,1926, pp. 44)

Bill Wambsganss, aka. Billy Wamby 1932 - "I shall always treasure the friendship of Ty Cobb. Hailed as the greatest player of his time. . . "Cobb was, without doubt, the most versatile batter the game has ever know. . . Two experiences with Cobb I shall always remember. Once, when in

AL 2B, 1914-26 the throes of a terrible batting slump , I asked him to give me a few pointers. He was very sympathetic, and although he was the manager of the Tigers at the time, he took great pains to coach me in a better batting stance. When I connected for two hitsduring the game he was as happy as I was and congratulated me on my success." (Sporting News, February 4, 1932, pp. 4, column 6, Character Sketches by William Wambsganss)1966 - Who's the best player he's ever seen? "I believe Babe Ruth had the most natural ability of anyone, by far. But Cobb made himself a better player than Ruth because of his intense determination, concentration and practice. Nobody compares with him in those qualities." (Sporting News, January 22, 1966, pp. 10, column 3)1985 - "He could do things with a bat that nobody could do, including Rose, and that's a cinch. People thought he was nasty, but the way I saw it, Cobb just wanted to win. He was very proud and intense, the same as Rose. Cobb felt the base lines werehis, so if you got spiked, it was your fault because you were in his way." Despite Wamby's respect for Cobb, the first player he'd pick on his all-time team would be Babe Ruth. "Cobb would be second and Tris Speaker or Joe Jackson would be third. Rose would have to beat out George Sisler to be my first baseman and I don't think he could," said Wamby, who lives in Lakewood, O., a suburb of Cleveland, and is looking forward to celebrating his 92nd birthday on March 19. . .(Sporting News, Oct. 14, 1985, pp. 9, column 1)

? - Wamby admits "Cobb was the toughest man to tag I ever played against. His feet always came flying at you and the only way to get him and not get cut up was to touch some part of his body other than his legs." This didn't prevent Wamby fromconsidering Cobb "a great guy." 1934 - Maul declares that Ty Cobb is the greatest player he ever saw. . . (Sporting News, August 30, 1934, pp. 4, column 3)

Stan Baumgartner, 1948 - "This is a story of Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player of all time--and Cy Perkins, one of the finest receivers of his day, who now coaches the Phillies. AL P (1924-1926), NL P (1914-16, 21-22 Cobb and Perkins became fast friends in later years. Ty took a fancy to the young, slim, quiet catcher--made him a companion. They dined together, chinned together around the batting cage. One day, Lefty Grove was throwing in batting practice for the Philadelphia sportswriter, (1927-1955) Athletics. "You think Ruth is a great home run hitter, don't you?" asked Cobb, then nearing the end of his career. Perkins nodded. "The greatest I ever saw," he replied. Cobb picked out a bat. "Watch me," he said as he stepped to the plate. He hit

Grove's first pitch over the right field wall, his second into Twentieth st., his third onto the rooftops, and his fourth bouncing into the streets beyond the roofs. Ty turned around grinning, then shook his head. "But that's not for Cobb. This is Cobb," he said, and shortened his grip on the bat. He hit four in succession on a line over third base. (Sporting News, May 5, 1948, pp. 12, column 3)"There was only one Ty Cobb." (Baseball Magazine)1943 - Lefty George regards Ty Cobb as the greatest player who ever lived. (Sporting News, July 22, 1943, pp. 5, column 3 & 4)

Jimmy Austin 1965 - "I guess when you talk about the greatest baseball player who ever lived it has to be either the Babe, Ty Cobb, or Honus Wagner. I didn't see much of Wagner, 'cause he was in the National League, but I played for years against both Cobb and Ruth,

AL 3B, 1909-23, 1925-26, 1929 and I'd hate to have to choose between them. Golly, both of those guys could beat you in so many ways it wasn't funny. Ty could get real nasty on the field, you know, Off the field, though, he was a pretty good guy. . . . Ty was fair enough on the Browns manager, 1913, 1918, 1923 bases, though. He nicked me a couple of times, but it was my fault. I don't blame him. . . . When Cobb was out there on that ball field, look out. He wasn't anybody's friend then. He was out to win, regardless. But I got along with him all right off

the field. He was a better guy off the field than he was on. (The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence S. Ritter, 1965, pp. 81-82)Whitey Witt "In my book, there were two great ballplayers, Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb. They were the two greatest of all-time. Ruth had color. Cobb was spectacular. Everything he did was spectacular. . . When I played for the A's, Connie Mack always had pre-gameAL OF, 1916-17, 19-25, NL OF 1926 meetings. He would get up and say, 'Today, we're playing Ty Cobb.' He would never say, 'The Detroit Tigers,' it was always 'Ty Cobb.' . . In Witt's last year with the Yankees, the club had a rookie first baseman named Lou Gehrig. Whitney has vivid

memories of the young slugger. "To me, he was more valuable to the ball club than Ruth because he was very consistent," Witt says. "He never struck out, and he could drive in runs. He always got the bat on the ball. Whitey Witt was obviously confused in his opinions. While saying Ruth & Cobb were the two greatest ever, he says he felt Gehrig was more valuable to the team than Ruth. And in the '80's he leaves Cobb off his all-time team. 1923 - "I should like to have pitched in the American League when Ty was in his prime. He would have given me something to think about, But that's what I like. He was a great player in every way, and it will be a long time before they discover

NL P (1911-1922, except 1913, 1918) another Ty, and I don't say that because he comes from my home state, Georgia, either. Babe Ruth is one of the best ball players I ever saw, and by that I don't mean just a good slugger. Babe's a real ball player. He has the best throwing arm in any outfield barring none. Bob Meusel may have naturally a better arm, but not much. Anyway, Babe uses his arm to better advantage. And he plays the pitchers pretty well too. And he throws to the right base. Babe looks lumbering and slow, but he isn't.

He's pretty fast and he knows how to run bases. If he had more speed he would be a great base runner. With all my respect for Babe Ruth's ability as a hitter, I consider Hornsby his superior. You can fool Babe some times and make him look foolish, butyou can't fool Hornsby on anything. Hornsby isn't so apt to hit a homer as Ruth, for that isn't his style. But he's even more apt to come through with a single or a double. Ruth chops up and lofts the ball. Hornsby hits it smack on the nose anddrives it on a line. With the possible exception of Hans Wagner, Hornsby is the greatest batter I ever looked at and he's a great fielder, but he's not a great base stealer. He's fast, one of the fastest men in baseball and he can tear around the bases

on a safe drive, but he isn't a natural base stealer and he hasn't learned the tricks of getting the jump on the pitcher." (Baseball Magazine, October, 1923, pp. 519, "The Science of Holding Down the Base Runners, from interview with Sherrod Smith, pp. 389-390, 517, 519-520)

George J. Burns 1942 - "One of the most marvelous baseball machines I have ever seen. I never expect to see his equal." NL OF, 1911-25 (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?

1942 - "He was the greatest competitor who ever lived."

( NL 2B, 1916), ( FL SS, 2B, 1914-15) The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He not alone had natural ability, but baseball brains and the incentive to win."

Cubs coach, 1941-43, Red Sox coach, 1949 (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He could run, field, throw, hit and think faster than anybody else, and that's about all a ball player needs to have to be great." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He was tough to pitch to. I don't think any pitcher ever found a successful way to pitch to him. I know that I didn't."(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "Because he had no weakness."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Al Maul, NL P, 1887-1891, 93-01, park staffs, Phillies & A's, 20's-50's

Grover Alexander, NL P (1911-1930)Lefty George, AL pitcher (1911-1912), NL pitcher (1915, 1918)

Sherrod Smith, AL P (1922-1927),

Steve Yerkes, ( AL SS, 2B, 1909, 1911-14)

Kiki Cuyler, NL OF, 1921-38

Dick Spalding, NL OF, 1927, AL OF, 1928

Charlie Root, NL P, 1926-41, AL P, 1923

Jim (Death Valley) Scott, AL P, 1909-17

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1942 - "He outguessed the other fellows all the time. There will never be another Cobb."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He loved to play baseball for all he was worth every second of the game, regardless of the score. He was very fast and very smart."

Cleveland manager, 1911, Phil. A's coach, 1912-18 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "I was only a kid when I came up with the White Sox, and here is what I heard at one of the first players' meetings I ever attended: Leave the Georgia Peach alone. Don't ride him or he'll beat you single-handed." And maybe you don't think thatBrowns coach, 1939, Red Sox coach, 1940-44, he couldn't!" (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"Det. coach, 1946-47, Giants coach, 1949-55

1942 - "He appeared to be head and shoulders over anyone else."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He was a quick thinker, which enabled him to do things at an advantage."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Ray Fisher 1942 - "I never saw his equal in any department of baseball."

AL P, 1910-17, NL P, 1919-20 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1931 - Bill McKechnie, manager of the Braves, strung along with McGraw on Wagner as the greatest of them all. McKechnie, one-time Pirate infielder, piloted Pittsburgh to a pennant in 1925 and won another gonfalon for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1922.

FL pl. 1914-15, AL pl. 1913 Oddly enough, neither club retained him for long after his success. "I don't see how a National Leaguer could pick any one but old Honus Wagner as the best that ever lived," said McKechnie. . ."I played in the infield with him for six or seven years and

FL manager, 1915 will pay him the splendid tribute of saying I never saw him make a mental error. He made "boots," of course. Every ball player makes fielding errors. But Honus always threw to the right base: he always did the correct thing at the proper moments. As NL manager, 1922-46, except 1927 to physical ability, he was a marvelous fielder, the hardest-hitting shortstop in history and a splendid baserunner. . . "Cobb gets second place. really, I think those two stand by themselves for this century, at least. speaker didn't have thePitts. coach, 1922 Speaker didn't have the natural speed of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on fly ballsCardinals coach, 1927 of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on Indians coach, 1947-49, Red Sox coach, 1952-53 that are too close to the infield for outfielders to get. I have been astonished at Hornsby's inability to overcome this weakness during his many years in the majors. It is hard to choose between Hornsby and Ruth, but I'll give it to Hornsby."

(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)1942 - "He could do everything a little better than the rest of the herd. He had color and the will to win. And he would chase half of the present-day players out of the park with his spikes today. He could dish it out and he could take it."

NL OF, 1912-20, Phillies' manager, 1919-20, Phillies coach, 1923 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1964 - "Cobb. He did everything. . . He drove infielders crazy. They never knew what the hell he was going to do. And neither did he till that last split second. You couldn't try to figure Cobb. It was impossible. Cobb could hit the long ball. I NL P, OF, 1B , 1917-32,

about that. He roomed alone. He didn't care about whether they liked him or not. They made it pretty tough on him his first year up there, and he showed them. They may not liked him but they admired him. (Must have been an amazing ballplayer.)Well, wasn't any like him. He's alone. ( Interviewed by Lawrence Ritter, August 26, 1964, for the book, The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Ritter, 1966, pp. 166-167.) This transcript is taken from the audio tapes of those interviews.)1961 - "I believe Cobb is the all-time great. Excellence in baseball cannot be explained by mechanics or mathematics, as managers and broadcasters do today. It is reaction, and Cobb had the fastest reflexes of any human being I ever encountered.Mays comes close but there will never be another Ty -- he could beat you by himself." (San Francisco Chronicle, July 20, 1961, Column by Art Rosenbaum, "He Would Rather Die Than Lose.")1931 - So, McGraw's vote is for Wagner, Anson's was for Cobb and Comiskey's was, and is, for the Peach. (Sporting News, March 19, 1931, pp. 4, By Ernie Lanigan)1934 - Tyrus Raymond subsequently was acclaimed by Old Roman Comiskey and Adrian C. Anson as greatest players of all time. (Sporting News, January 11, 1934, pp. 6, column 5-6, "Daguerreotypes")1953 - Declaring he was feeling fine and also "lucky" to reach such an age, Lanigan recalled that both Cap Anson and Charley (Old Roman)Comiskey had selected Cobb years ago as the game's brightest star(Sporting News, January 14, 1953, pp. 7, column 4 & 5)1969 - "While DiMaggio would not name a full All-Time team, he did single out certain players. He picked Charlie Gehringer who played for Detroit, as his second baseman; Pie Traynor, Pittsburgh, third base, and Honus Wagner, Pittsburgh, at shortstop.

DiMaggio said it was "just too much" when he looked at the outfielder list but he did murmur in an aside: "Ty Cobb has to be on any All-Time team, and he has to get a shot as the greatest player ever. . . "I guess," said DiMaggio, "That I'd have to goalong with Lefty Grove as the best southpaw and Walter Johnson as the best right-hander. But I don't envy anybody the job of picking the greatest player." How about Joe DiMaggio? he was asked. "You're too kind", said Oakland coach.(Washington Post, June 14, 1969, pp. D3, "Star Picking Tough Play for DiMaggio", Bob Addie's Column)1986 - In 1986, Eugene V. McCaffrey & Roger A. McCaffrey published "Players Choice". This great book asks many great questions. Luke answers 3 of them thusly: Best base stealer of all Time: Ty Cobb; Hitter you found hardest to get out: Ty Cobb;

Browns manager, 1941-46, Cinc. manager, 1949-52 Ball Player Who Did The Most To Inspire His Team: Ty Cobb ( pp. 150)Cleveland coach, 1939-41, Cinc. coach, 1949

1931 - Gabby Street, one-time battery mate of Walter Johnson at Washington and now manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, 1930 champions of the National League, was the fifth man to name Cobb for first honors. "I spent seven years in theCardinals coach, 1929, Cardinals manager, 1930-33 American League and two in the National and Cobb is my pick, without question," he said. "Cobb had a ninety-horsepower brain, which, in my opinion, was his greatest asset. He always thought a fraction of a second faster than any one else and, therefore,

Browns coach, 1937, Browns manager, 1938 was always ahead of the game. Modern fans who saw him only in the closing days of his career can't appreciate him. "I'll give old Honus second place and Eddie Collins third. Freddy Parent, Boston Red Sox infielder, wasn't a spectacular player, but he's my fourth choice. And I can't leave out Hal Chase. He could do everything," concluded Street.(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)

Bill Carrigan 1942 - "I have yet to see anybody else who could do the things that he used to do."AL catcher, 1906-16, Red Sox manager, 1913-16, '27-29 (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?

1931 - "All right then. If that's the way you feel about it, go ahead and name Ty Cobb as the best of them all," replied Uncle Robbie. "I didn't see him play much because he was in the other league, butN L catcher, 1890-00, AL Balt. catcher, 1901-02 from what I did see and from what I've heard from others who do know ball players when they see them, Cobb deserves first place. Put Willie Keeler in there next to Ty. Willie was a great all-round ball player and the best place hitter the game ever knew."Brooklyn manager, 1914-31 (Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)Tom Daly 1942 - "Maybe he didn't have the best disposition in the world, but all great ball players are afflicted with crabbiness, I think."

Mike Kilroy, ML P, 1888, NL P, 1891

Harry Davis, AL 1B, 1901-17, NL 1B, 1895-99

Frank Shellenback, Phil. A's P, 1918-19

Bob Johnson, AL OF, 1933-45

Floyd (Pep) Young, NL SS, 2B, 1933-41, 45

Bill McKechnie, NL 3b, 2B, 1907, 10-12, 16-18, 20

Gavvy Cravath, AL OF, 1908-09

Rube Bressler, Phil. A's P, 1914-16

I never saw anybody like him. Cobb had that terrific fire, that terrific drive, It was his base, It was his game. Everything was

John Knight, AL SS,3B, 1905-13, exc. '08

Cap Anson, (ML 1B, 1871-97), (ML man., 1875, '79-98)

Joe DiMaggio, NY Yankees, 1936-51 OF

Luke Sewell, AL catcher, 1921-39, 42

Gabby Street, AL catcher, 1908-12, NL catcher, 1904-05

Wilbert Robinson, ML catcher, 1886-91

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AL catcher, 1913-16, NL catcher, 1918-21 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He could do everything asked of a ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball playerCleveland manager (1935-1937) Detroit manager (1943-1945) of all time. Why?"

Red Sox manager (1950-51) Phillies manager (1952-1954) ? - "Steve O'Neil, George Uhle and Will Wamby, all members of the 1920 world champion Cleveland Indians--and therefore opponents of Cobb--still speak with a sort of reverence about the Georgia Peach. "Oh, he was a great one", said O'Neil, the tribecatcher. "He was the toughest man a catcher ever had to work behind. When he was up there you worried about the bunt. When he was on base you worried about him stealing. He worried me more than any other runner I ever played against." O'Neil admits. Cobb "stole a few bases on me, and I got him a few times, but he was tough to nail. He was fast and got a good jump and he always came in spikes high. Our infielders didn't want any part of those spikes and they gave him too much of the base. Ty could dish it out, but he could take it, too. Once he came home on a base hit and I was blocking the plate. I got him in the kidneys and knocked him out. When he came to he didn't say a word. He just got up and limped out to his position in center."1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

Detroit manager 1936-42, Det. coach, 1933-38 of all time. Why?"Cleveland coach, 1943-44 1944 - "You never saw Johnson at his best unless you watched him pitching to Ty Cobb. There was really a contest, the greatest hitter in the business against the greatest pitcher. Johnson had all the best of it, too. but Cobb never would admit it."Red Sox coach , 1945-48, 53-60 (Sporting News, April 13, 1944, pp. 17, column 4 & 5, Inside Pitches by Galleyproof Gus, as reported by Ed McAuley of the Cleveland News)

1962 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that.

And no amount of wild stories now will ever dim his fame." (Baker, continued), (Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 4, column 5)1949 - "The greatest by a wide margin," says Zimmer, "was Ty Cobb. He was so good he was a freak." (Sporting News, Jan. 12, 1949, pp. 11, column 3)1926 - Our talk had rambled, then I thought, wonder who he considers the greatest ball player of all time. "Ty Cobb," was the instantaneous reply to my question, "There is only one Ty Cobb, and there will never be but one. I take my hat off to him."

White Sox manager, 1927-28, Cubs coach, 1930-31 Baseball's greatest catcher had paid a noble tribute to baseball's greatest player. "And," he went on, "I think that Walter Johnson is the greatest pitcher, and Eddie Collins the smartest man in the game. Get those three on a team, and it'll be a `wow'.(Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 316, column 3, "How Ray Schalk Got His Start", by Stanley E. Kalish, pp. 315-316)"Ty Cobb has the ideal baseball brains. . . . Hal Chase and Ty Cobb are scintillating examples of quick thought on the diamond." (Baseball Magazine, Interv. with Ray Schalk, pp. 152) 1964 - "For all-around, I've got to choose Cobb," said Ray Schalk, long-time star catcher of the Chicago White Sox. "Speaker, Felsch, Mostil, Rice and DiMaggio were great, but the greatest of them all in all departments has got to be Ty, in my book." (Sport, August, 1964, by Joe Reichler, Living Hall of Famers Pick The Greatest Centerfielder Ever)

1969 - "Ray Schalk agreed with Frisch. I can't pick between them," the all time catcher said. "I admired them both and each was my friend. Ruth put me on his all-time team. I spent a lot of time with Cobb in later years. but I will say this: I caught behind them both and they made a better catcher of me. I had to work harder to get them out." (Baseball Digest, November, 1969, pp. 20-24, by Ed Rumill of the Christian Science Monitor, Hall of Famers Pay Tribute to the Mighty Babe)So, after a lifetime of unconditional, pristine support for Ty as the best ever, at the end of his life, Ray sullied his unqualified support, by claiming he couldn't choose between Ty & Babe.

Mickey Cochrane 1931 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblyAL catcher (1925-38) could help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is theDetroit Manager, (1934-38), A's coach (1950), Detroit VP (1961-62) tip-off on how he registered with me." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, "They Had Their Heroes, Too", by Frank Graham) (This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, Jan. 2, 1932)Yankee scout (1955), Detroit scout (1960) 1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

player of all time? Why?"

Some of Ty's support amongst the Sports Writers, all of whom support him as the Greatest Ballplayer Ever.Francis C. Richter 1924 - "By the way, Ty Cobb is out with the statement that he will quit active work after this year and confine himself to bench managing, if "he can find a man to take this place in the Detroit outfield." This qualification is super-important, as itAL Reach Baseball Guide Editor-In-Chief (1901-1926, death) is decisive, because Detroit never will find another man to take the place of the game's greatest player in all departments of play. Cobb is now in his twentieth year of service with Detroit, and in batting, fielding and base running shows so littlePhiladelphia sportswriter (1876-1926) recession from his prime that he is out this season to beat Willie Keeler's long-standing major league record of 200 hits in a season for ten consecutive years, with easy chances of surpassing that record this year. Despite his long term of service we

feel confident that Cobb will be able to serve Detroit for two or three years more as player-extraordinary, as team management seems to have no adverse effect on his playing. If he can play three more years Cobb will surpass all players, ancient and

modern, in length of service, surpassing Captain Anson's 22-year record of much less strenuous playing; and Cobb will then be the greatest player the game has yet produced in all respects, not excluding length of service. (Sporting News, July 31, 1924, Casual Comment column, Francis C. Richter)1925 - ". . . that Cobb, the greatest player the game has produced though he be," (Sporting News, June 4, 1925, Casual Comment column, Francis C. Richter)

Editor-in-Chief of the Official Spalding Base Ball Guide(1908-41) because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who, at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobb puts somethingNY Giants business manager & secretary (1912-1919) into his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived." (Spalding NL Baseball Guide, 30's)

1938 - "For the right fielder of this all-time team there can be no other choice than Ty Cobb. All of us say "no other," but if Willie Keeler had been as much of a record-maker as Cobb was , it might be a closer race between them to patrol right fieldfor this mythical team. Cobb began to play professionally when quite a youngster and he kept on improving almost to the day that his knees, which play a very important part in a ball player's life, began to go back on him. During nearly all of theseyears he was with the Detroit club, part of the time as manager and captain. He led the American League in batting so many years that it became an old story to the general public, but never so to Cobb. His keenness to win the title always stayed with

Billy Alvord, ML 3B, 1889-91 1925 - Names Cobb as Game's Best -- St. Petersberg, Fla., Aug. 5. ---Ty Cobb's the greatest player, in Capt. Alvord's opinion, and Walter Johnson the greatest pitcher. (Washington Post, Aug. 9, 1925, pp. 25)Steve O'Neil, AL catcher (1911-1928)

Del Baker, Detroit catcher, 1914-16

Chief Zimmer,ML catcher(1886-03),Phillies man.('03),NL ump('04)Ray Schalk, AL catcher(1912-28), Giants catcher, 1929

Ed Ainsmith, AL catcher,1910-24, Det. catcher, 1919-21Harry Bullion, Detroit spwr.& ed, 1905-31William Hennigan, NY spwr. 1910-42Tim Murnane, ML 1B, 1872-78, Boston spwr. 1888-1917

John B. Foster, NY sportswriter (1888-1941) "Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do

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with him. Cobb's marvelous eyesight made him a great hitter, and, if we may go a step farther, a superhuman batter. He would not strike at a bad pitch unless he desired to for some strategically purpose. He could bat either low or high, and he cared not whether the ball was pitched to him fast or slow. Of course, he had a preference, and the pitchers were not slow in finding that out; but it seemed to make little difference in his batting. When he had to make a play on the ball he would connectwith it by bunting or slugging, or just by "plain hitting," and the pitcher had to suffer. He was released by Detroit and played during the last year of his base ball career with Philadelphia in the American League. When Cobb ceased playing he had made more than 4,000 hits. To tie that record a man must begin playing pretty early in life. Take him as he is and there has been no player like him. He is without doubt the right fielder of this team." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)

1938 - In that same article in the 1938 Spalding Baseball Guide, Foster says, "He (Buck Ewing) has been called the greatest all-round player ever connected with the game. I think that he was." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)1936 - "Cobb turned in the biggest job that sport has ever seen. He comes close to being the greatest competitor that sport ever knew." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)1943 - "Ruth and Cobb or Cobb and Ruth are still the greatest two ball players the old game has ever known, and some may care to bring in Hans Wagner." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)1948 - Right after Babe Ruth died, Grantland Rice wrote a commemorative piece on him and at the end of it, in the last sentence, called him the greatest player who ever lived.

Bill Phelon, 1915 - After seeing them all come and go for nearly thirty years: after seeing the great ones and the little ones, those who starred for years and years, and those who passed early from the game, two figures of them all persist in forcing themselvesChicago, New York, Cincinnati. sp wr. 1889-1925 upon my memory, and in plain opposition to each other--the forms of Tyrus Cobb and William Lange. Somehow, some way, these two always present themselves before me for comparison, and, despite all the praise they lavish on the Georgian today, I cannot see

where the gigantic Lange was his inferior! Lest I seem biased in my love for old-time pals, I'll instantly add this: That I cannot see where Cobb is the inferior of Lange. If ever two men, of strangely different physical and temperamental types, were to be counted as an equal, well-matched pair, these two were Lange and Cobb.

Were Lange a youthful player of today, he'd be Cobb's greatest rival. Had Cobb played in the time of Lange, he'd have been big Bill's closest competitor. If Lange possessed the eel-like agility of Cobb, there would have been no chance to stop him. If Cobbhad the size of Lange, without impeding his own speed, he'd never get through scoring. On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice, between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had

the better throwing arm of the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another. At the bat: Considering the time when each played, and the rules, I can see small difference between the colossal Californian and the wiry wonder of the South. Lange had no foul-strikes to handicap him, but in his day a caught foul tip was an immediate out. Then, too, he faced great pitchers, who during at least part of his career, worked from a shorter distance, and there were no "sacrifice flies" in the score to help his average. It was on the bases, though--in the wondrous way that both circled round the cushions--that the strange likeness between Lange and Cobb is most strongly demonstrated. It is said that Cobb does a lot of daring things, all his own invention, never tried by any other player. I distinctly remember many of Cobb's tricks as exact duplicates of Lange's --tricks forgotten when Bill left the game, and revived long afterward by the Georgian. Nor do I call Cobb a copy-cat: he never sawLange play ball, and his tricks are simply those that naturally found new roots in the mind of a thinker and great base runner. Lange stretched his hits just as Cobb does now. Lange was lightnig quick to rush for an adjoining base on the slightest fumble or lack of watchfulness--just as Cobb is today. The smallest slowness of slovenliness in the throw-in, the pickup of the throw-in, or the guarding of bases, meant the sudden arrival of Lange at the next

station--as is the case with Cobb when the smallest opening is given. In straightaway steals, both Lange and Cobb were marvels at getting away, or getting the jump on the pitchers's delivery. For a heavy man, Lange had terrificspeed. Perhaps the lighter-built Cobb could actually outsprint Lange, but when it came to the instant of arriving at the base, Lange's immense size used to scare the infielders out of his way. to the instant of arriving at the base, Lange's immense size used to scare the infielders out of his way. He never spiked any one, because he didn't have to --they broke for cover when his 230 pounds bore down upon them. Cobb makes up for lack of weight by the wicked impetus of his slide and the dangerous onrush of his spikes. Lange stole a few more bases, both on the season and in proportion to number of games and chances offered. But in those days they were accustomed to let a runner steal or fail, without trying the hit and run or bunting as he went--hence Lange had fewer blossoming steals killed off by the batsmen than is the case with Cobb. In - short, Lange, in my humble opinion, was the full equal of Cobb--and, therefore, one of the greatest ballplyaers that the game has ever known." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1915, by Bill Phelon)1920 - "Tyrus Cobb ranks as king of all batsmen in more ways than one--and one way is in consistency." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1920, pp. 384, "The Season's First Month in Review", by Bill Phelon, pp. 381-384)1936 - "For what he accomplished as a hitter, to set records for practically everything except home runs, and as a thrill-producing base runner, Ty Cobb often has been proclaimed as the greatest ball player of all times. For nearly a quarter of acentury, Cobb stood far, far above the ranks of even the very best; temperamental, to be sure, but forever flashing his daring and unexpected bits of brilliant baseball, the like of which has never been matched." (Boston Globe, 1936, --(The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)

1922 - "Tyrus Cobb has been crowned the greatest player of all time, although he owns no world's championship emblem." (Baseball Magazine, Oct., 1922, pp. 490, "The Most Important Cog in the Baseball Machine, by Irving Sanborn, pp. 389-390, 518)1920's - Damon Runyon of the Hearst press called him "Tire-us, the Jewel of Jawjah" for his endurance. Runyon said a good many observers felt that, contrary to widespread opinion, Ruth did not overshadow him except in power hitting. Other writerscited the judgment of some American League players in contending that Cobb still possessed more offensive and defensive abilities than the glorified Babe. For one basic consideration, he struck out far less than Ruth, the chronic fanner. (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 3551918 - "As an all-round player I think Cobb has it on them all. He is a player without a weakness, the greatest player I ever saw. If he could have starred in the old days before the foul strike rule went into effect, he would have torn things wideopen." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1918, pp. 476, column 2, "The Dean of Baseball Writers", by F.C. Lane, pp. 475-476))

Ferdinand Cole Lane 1934 - "It was such a fire of positive baseball genius that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game has produced. . . . But not one of them could match Ty's bold and daring recklessness, his impatient, never satisfied, persistent fight to outstripBaseball Magazine, Editor-in Chief (1910-37) all other players in the race for fame, to stand alone and unchallenged on top of the baseball world." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1934, pp. 497, A New Application For Top Notch Honors, by F.C. Lane, pp. 497-498)

1937 - "Take the brightest name of all in the baseball calendar, Ty Cobb. He was the first choice for the famous Hall of Fame, the player who had more votes for the highest honor than any other. Ty is generally recognized as the greatest of diamondstars." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1937, pp. 298, "Baseball Stars - Are They Born or Made?, by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 297-298, 326-327)1981 - Hyannis - The names and dates come a little more slowly when you're 96, like Ferdinand Lane. But Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth are hard to forget - and Lane knew them both. . . "Ruth, he was big and strong and an awful hard hitter," Lane said. "No

doubt about that - he hit 'em hard into the seats. But Cobb was the best. . . he was a good runner, fast on his feet, a good man to make hits. I remember him well, he was a fighter, he was - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb."" Cobb's name rolled slowly off Lane's tongue. "We were at his home in Georgia," said Mrs. Lane. "He was a man who never let anyone walk over him." Mr. Lane said they never played favorites while her husband was editing Baseball Magazine, "never believed in it," but her husband winked that he thought the Yankees were probably his favorite team. Not long ago he debated with another of the residents at Whitehall Manor, a younger man who thought Ted Williams was the greatest player who ever lived. "Ty Cobb," insisted Lane.(Craig Little,1981)

Fred Lieb, 1938 - "However, I wanted the views of the one man I thought best qualified to answer the question. That was Connie Mack. . . In his half century of baseball, he has seen the entire parade of the game's great pass by. I heard Connie call Ty Cobb the Philadelphia sportswriter, 1910-1911 game's greatest and with the passing of the years, he hasn't changed his mind. . . if anything, Connie is more insistent in awarding first place to the fiery Georgian. . . (Concerning Babe Ruth, Lieb continues), "Writers and fans have put him there, yet NY sportswriter, 1911-1934 I still have to find a baseball man with the experience and background of such men as Mack, Barrow, the late John McGraw, the late Miller Huggins and McCarthy, who would go as to rate Ruth the greatest player of all time. they all concede Babe was the

Grantland Rice, Atlanta, NY spwr. 1902-54

Melville Webb, Boston sportswriter 1897-1951

Irving (Sy) Sanborn, Chicago sportswriter 1900-1930Damon Runyon, NY sportswriter, 1911-1917

Sam Crane, ML 2B, 1880-90. NY sportswriter, 1990-25

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St. Petersburg, FL, 1934-1977 game's greatest showman, but for sheer playing greatness they place him behind Cobb and Wagner, some even place him behind Gehrig, Keeler and Speaker. While I consider Ty Cobb the game's greatest player, I am somewhat at a loss to understand why Ruth isnot given higher ranking. Was it that during a good part of Ruth's career he not only was the game's Home Run King, but also it's outstanding Play Boy?" (Sporting News, Jan. 27, 1938, pp. 3, column 5)

While in St. Petersburg, FL, Fred spent many summers 1961 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the game's greatest all-time star and holder of the highest lifetime batting average - .367 for 24 seasons--died of cancer at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta,Ga., July 17: (New York Times, July 18, 1961)in St. Louis, writing for Sporting News under Taylor Spink 1970 - "But Fred, though "deep in my heart" regarding Cobb as the best player, was able to make a case for Ruth as the greatest complete player because of his great pitching ability, his fine arm, his running and fielding skill and the fact that he

revolutionized the game by ushering in the home-run era. (Sporting News, April 11, 1970, pp. 45, column 3)1977 - "At least as late as 1930, Ty Cobb and Hans Wagner generally were regarded as the greatest players of all time. However, now that Ruth's contributions to baseball can be fully evaluated, Mr. Babe looms up as number one.""Shortly after Ruth's death in 1948, Taylor Spink, publisher of The Sporting News, asked me to take the Ruth side in a debate with Harry Salsinger of the Detroit News on the subject "Who was the greater--Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth?" As a matter offact, up to that time I myself had considered Cobb to be number one. In arguing for Ruth, I made my case on the larger meaning of the word "great." (Baseball As I Have Known It, by Fred Lieb, 1977, pp. 168)1962 - Probably no living writer was better acquainted with the real Ty Cobb than Ed Bang, former sports editor of the Cleveland News. Bang, now 82 and living in retirement in Cleveland, is a charter member of the Baseball Writers' Association of America,having been present when that organization was founded in 1908, and holds card No. 1 as the senior member of the BBWAA . . ."Here and now let me place myself on record after 54 years of big league baseball coverage. I have never seen anyone who could be rated a close second to Ty Cobb. I arrived at that judgment long before Cobb retired from baseball, and no player I have seen in the intervening years has caused me to waver even slightly from that position. The Georgia Peach, as he was knownfamiliarly, if not always affectionately, was simply the Greatest. (The Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 13, column 1)

Heywood Broun 1910 - "Here is the best man in the world at his game, without the shade of a doubt: the best of any time.". .. "spectators at baseball games do not like this player who gives them more for their hard-earned ticket than any man alive or dead gave them."NY sports writer, 1911-mid-20's (Broun, continued) (NY Morning Telegraph, Oct., 1910, by Heywood Broun)

1928 - "Cobb was the greatest player in baseball history." (New York World Telegram- The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)

1933 - "When you rate the great outfielders of all time as individuals you must concede the three top places to Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker. Some may declare Cobb to have been the greatest ballplayer the game has developed. Some, may fight theverbal battle for Ruth, who has been not only a wondrous performer on the field but a record-breaking attraction at the box office. But the Babe and Ty split the two top ratings, and then comes Speaker. Behind Tris you may like to designate Joe Jackson.Or perhaps you favor Wee Willie Keeler, the hitting scientist and the defensive student. . . . . of the White Sox of 1919, who by many authorities are rated at least one of the first three clubs of baseball history."1958 - "The greatest ball player, in all-round effect on the game, the fans and the players, Babe Ruth. The most richly talented, Ty Cobb. The greatest pitchers, Matty and Walter Johnson. The greatest club, the 1927 Yankees. (Sporting News, March 19, 1958, pp. 14, column 3)1960 - "The Presentations were made by Dan Daniel, who called Ty the greatest player baseball yet has seen. The diners shouted their approval. (Sporting News, February 16, 1960, pp. 5, column 1)1961 - "Ty Cobb is dead, at 74, and now comes a revival of the old debate as to where the Georgia Peach belongs in the all time rating of baseball heroes. Much as I would like to give the top accolade to Babe Ruth, to whom I was much closer than I was to Cobb, in all fairness and honesty, I must rate Ty as the greatest player the game has seen. . . .Faster than the rest, nimble of mind, always audacious and aggressive, domineering and arrogant with the mark of the genius, fiery of temper, accurate

of eye and unerring in his baseball judgment, sometimes cruel, Tyrus Raymond Cobb of Banks County, Ga., and the Detroit Tigers, was the diamond ne plus ultra, in a class by himself.(New York World Telegram & Sun, July 18, 1961)1962 - "Ty Cobb, greatest player of them all, played on that field for many years. (Sporting News, September 15, 1962, pp. 12, column 3)

Shirley Povich 1939 - Detroit, June 11.-- The man they say was the greatest ball player who ever lived came back to the scene of his former triumphs today. His name has to be, of course, Ty Cobb. Wash. sportswriter, 1922-1974, and afterwards (Washington Post, June 12, 1939, pp. 19, "This Morning . . . With Shirley Povich")

1959 - "They were, of course, Cobb, Speaker and Ruth, names that go together like other inseparable trinities, viz: Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, or Winken, Blinken and Nod. … Cobb was simply the greatest, most exciting baseball athlete of his timeor any other: Ruth was the dramatist with his home runs that were matchless for frequency and distance, and Speaker the complete artist with the glove, who could also hit." (Baseball Digest, March, 1959, pp. 42, 43)1961 - "This week's obituaries must fall short. . . Inevitably, there were the comparisons: Cobb or Ruth. . . Ruth's was the home run. Cobb's was the whole sweep of other baseball skills, his dominance in his sphere as unchallenged as Ruth's kingshipof the batted ball for distance. . ."On fan impact, if not on skills, the comparison need not be ruled out. Both could tense up a whole ball park, in their special ways. The Cobb man gave them a different show. He was electric, both at the plate and on the bases. . .As an individual, he could destroy a whole ball team. to Ruth, a single was only a single. For Cobb, it was merely the

start of a progressive tour around the bases with excitement at each point, whether he was stealing or scrambling for an extra base on somebody's hit, often his own. Cobb's approach to baseball was that of a clinicist. Thus it was that he once exploited the rookie catcher of the Athletics, Wally Schang, with the complaint, "Get back a step, your're bothering my swing." When Schang complied, Cob laid down a bunt. . .The 12 AMERICAN League batting championships Cob won, nine of them in a row, from 1907-15permit little debate that he was the greatest hitter than ever lived, even though his home run total is pale alongside Ruth's. But his nine home runs were enough to tie him for the league lead in 1909 and he was recoginized as a power man at least in his era. Of Cobb, it can always be said, there he stands, high against the baseball sky, perhaps as the longest-enduring baseball figure." (Washington Post, Wednesday, July 19, 1961, pp. B1, "This Morning. . . With Shirley Povich")1969 - " I did not know Cobb well when he was the greatest ballplayer in the history of the game with twelve batting championships, nine in a row, and a lifetime - lifetime, mind you - average of .367. Today if a player hits .367 for a week,it's a big story." (All These Mornings, by Shirley Povich, 1969, pp. 45)1924 - "Ty Cobb, whose amazing exploits throw into the shade all other records which have ever been made on the diamond." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 300, top, right blurb, "The Twenty-five Greatest Players" by W. B. Hanna)

John B. Sheridan 1926 - "Cobb is done with baseball. Laid down his bat which for 21 years had terrorized opponents and ceased to use the amazing brain and marvelous legs which drove opposing teams to madness 15 years ago. The greatest player of all time, by far the

St. Louis spwr. (1880's-1929) the greatest, will probably never again be seen playing in a game of professional baseball. The day I have dreaded has come. I will not see Cobb play ball again.Sporting News column, "Back of Home Plate", 1917-29 It is almost incredible. I had entertained the hope that so long as I wanted to see baseball games I would have the exquisite pleasure of seeing now and then the great Cobb play. It has been my fortune to see the great John L. Sullivan, Jack McAuliffe,

Tommy Ryan, Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson, Jack Johnson, box Tilden, the greatest of the tennis players of all time; Bobby Jones, the greatest and most attractive golfer of all time; Hagen, the great money player and professional star, but none of them gave

me such exquisite pleasure as the sight of Tyrus Raymond Cobb playing baseball. Of course, baseball is by far the greatest of the games. Tilden was, in his line, as great as Cobb was in baseball, but tennis in not baseball. No, not by a long shot. . .That Cobb was the great ball player may be taken as axiomatic. I have never heard this point contested. . . ."He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, go get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that ofsome great fielders, but I never could see any weakness in his fielding."He has been my idol, my idea of what a ball player should be and, in later years, my dearly beloved friend. . . For 20 years I have admired andloved him. I still entertain the hope that as age creeps upon us that from time to time

Ed Bang, Cleveland News sp. ed. (1907-60)

Dan Daniel, NYC sp. wr., 1910-60's

William B. Hanna, NY sportswriter, 1888-1930

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I can sit down quietly as in the past and talk to Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Bayard of Baseball, the ball player beyond fear and above cavil." (Sporting News, November 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 6)1911 - "In the American League Ty Cobb has not only succeeded in doing superb work in all departments but is playing faster ball than ever and never has done more work to win games for his club than this season. He is fairly in a class by himself,and top-notcher that he is, plays with the same reckless disregard of results as ever. A man of the speed of Ty is bound to cause trouble for someone, but it is sheer nonsense that he will consent to slow up for some player who fails to get out of the way. It is nothing if not dangerous to catch a man like Cobb when he is making for a base under full headway and any fielder who attempts to stop him does so at his own peril and need not wait for apologies from Ty if he comes to grief. Attempts galore

have been made to prove that Ty is a dirty ball player, and those who howl the loudest at him are the ones who would do the same for him were he a member of the team in the city for which they root. It all depends whose ox is gored.(Baseball Magazine, September, 1911, pp. 42)1960 - "Cobb's thin right arm slid around Mantle's shoulder, drawing Mickey close to him. "I think you're wonderful," said the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. (NY Daily Sunday News, Sept. 18, 1960)

Bozeman Bulger 1928 - "Many baseball men to this day regard Wagner as the greatest ball player that ever lived. His only rival in that respect is Ty Cobb. The records give Cobb a shade the better of it, but it is still a debatable subject. Wagner had one bigBirmingham Age-Herald(AL) sp.ed., 1899-1905 advantage. He cold play the outfield as well as anybody and could play the infield better than anybody. The claim for Cobb's superiority is based on his speed, batting and aggressive spirit. Many hold that Wagner was superior as a straight-away hitter.NY sportswriter 1906-1931 That is very likely true, but the old Dutchman, as he was affectionately called, lacked the sparkling variety of Cobb's attack. . .There are mighty few laymen in this country who have so thorough a knowledge of paintings and great painters as Ty Cobb. . .

"The baseman or catcher who blocks him does so at his own peril(Cobb quote)." There is a lot of truth in that. . . The catcher must take his own chances in blocking the path. If he is bowled over, that is his own lookout. Under the rules, he has no defense. . . Wagner himself was an aggressive base runner. Probably he has gone through as many clashes of spikes as the fleet-footed Cobb. There never was a base runner quite the equal of Cobb, though. The chances are there

never will be. Wagner, however, took the clashes of temperament and spikes as all a part of the day's work. His imagination stopped right there." (The Saturday Evening Post, Twenty-five Years In Sports, by Bozeman Bulger, May 26, 1928, pp. 37, 136) "He was possessed by the Furies." (Boze Bulger speaking about Ty Cobb, date of quote, uncertain)

Harry SalsingerDetroit News sports editor, 1907-1958 many of them ever studied a baseball record book. (Sporting News, February 15, 1950, pp. 3, column 1)

1950 - "In any all-time rating of players, Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone. He was the greatest of the great, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist. . . He was a keener student of the game than his contemporaries and understood thegame better than they did. What is more, he understood them better than they understood themselves. . . . Baseball also has its lonely figure sitting on the Olympian heights. There is but one, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, and the game will never know his like again. While others have changed the destinies of peoples, the ways of living and the means of life. Cobb revolutionized and remade the sport of a nation. . . . Some men rate Wagner ahead of Cobb. Honus was undoubtedly the best infielder of all time. Agreat hitter and base-runner. He knew baseball, but never in the deep sense that Cobb did. He lacked the extra touch, the spark, the flame; there was no fire to Wagner's play: he was sound and thorough, but phlegmatic. Above all, he lacked imagination.He did not have Cobb's inventive mind. In his greatest moments Cobb was the very soul of baseball. Ruth had more batting power than any player before or since his day. He was the Goliath of the game, the Samson, but he was more than a great slugger. Hewas one of baseball's best left-handed pitchers before he concentrated on knocking the ball into the next county and when he quit pitching he developed into an outstanding outfielder. He was fast enough, had a fine pair of hands, was a sure judge of a flyball, played batters well, threw with speed and exceptional accuracy. He lacked Cobb's speed on the bases but ran with fine judgment. He never threw to the wrong base and almost never made a wrong play, and those are the standards by which ball players

judge their fellow players. Ruth pleased the eye, while Cobb pleased the mind and eye. Ruth lacked the speed, the quick break, the lightning-like thrusts of Cobb. He lacked his imagination. He was an entirely different type. (Sporting News, May 24, 1950, pp. 3, column 4) 1955 - "Ty's Greatest Still Unrivaled After 50 Years - Brilliant and unorthodox, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist, Ty Cobb made baseball history for more than two decades. He dominated the game. . . . His is the story of a mighty brain and the driving force of genius that made him great when other men, superior in physical strength and natural ability and speed, remained mediocre. (Sporting News, September 7, 1955, pp. 10, column 2)1916 - "He (Ring Lardner, Sr.) also took me to Comiskey Park to see Ty Cobb. We sat out in the center field bleachers so dad could keep up a running fire of conversation with Ty. My father was very eager for me to see Cobb, whom he rated the greatest player in the history of the game. (The Sporting News, Jan. 15, 1942, interview of John Lardner, Jr., son of Ring Lardner, by J. G. Taylor Spink) 1947 - "The feature of a brief, written reply by Wray listed sports personalities he considered most outstanding in 47 years of reporting - Ty Cobb in baseball, Man O'War in horse racing, Edward B. Cochems in football, Jack Dempsey in prize fightingand Willie Hoppe in billiards. (Sporting News, March 26, 1947, pp. 15, column 2)

Warren BrownNY spwr. 1922-23 changing," writes Warren. "Some of you who have come in late, may have missed entirely what used to be an annual feature making its appearance at this time of year. That feature was the annual discovery of 'another Ty Cobb.' "We are not sure when the

Chicago spwr. 1923-74 practice of looking for or even announcing another Cobb was discontinued. Nor do we know why it was, save perhaps for the very obvious fact that there never has been and never will be another Cobb. "It may have been, of course, that the things that Babeto baseball and for attendances, baseball salaries and things in general, caused the drift away from Cobb. At least we have noticed that for a while, there was an occasional announcement that this rookie or that was another Babe Ruth. As we come downthrough the years, we hit upon another player who has been a bit of a sensation from law.That is Joe DiMaggio of the Yankees. Having established the type, the rush then began to find another Joe DiMaggio."(Sporting News, January 20, 1938, pp. 4, column 5)

Henry P. Edwards 1926 - "It will not seem like the same old American League with Ty Cobb numbered among the missing, writes Henry P. Edwards in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. In fact it is difficult to believe that the famous Georgian, the most colorful player the AmericanCleveland sports editor, 1898-1942 League ever has known, will not go to bat around the circuit next season. Twenty-one years ago Cobb came up from the South to join the Detroit Tigers and it was he, more than any other one player, who is responsible for the construction of the greatAL PR office, Chicago, 1928-1942 baseball plant at Navin field. Detroit was a poor baseball town until Cobb began to assert himself as the "world's best" and break records with unceasing regularity until most of the batting, base running and run getting marks became his. In fact he

was to baseball from 1906 to 1920 or so, what Babe Ruth is today-- the game's greatest drawing card. He revolutionized base running. Infielders hated to see him dashing down the plate, his 180 pounds skimming over the dirt and hurtling, spikesforemost, into the sacks. . . . But whatever may have been Cobb's shortcomings as a manager, there is no denying the fact the baseball world has known no greater player." ( The Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 3, Scribbled by A Scribe column)

Charles Emmet Van Loan 1912 - "Now there's Cobb, for example. They say of Ty, and truly, that he is the greatest of living ball-players, if not the greatest that ever lived. He came up out of Georgia seven years ago, bringing with him a long bat, a pair of slim,San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York sports writer, 1904-1910 flat-muscled legs, and a peppery disposition. To-day he is probably the most valuable bit of baseball property in existence. Pittsburgh paid twenty-two thousand five hundred dollars for Marty O'Toole, on speculation. How much do you suppose Cobb would

bring, when his very name is a guarantee of the highest grade of efficiency? On the field Cobb is aggressive, argumentative, daring to the point of recklessness, always in the thick of the battle, fighting every minute to win. The popular idea of Cobb

is that he is a sort of thunderbolt in breeches; but put him in his street clothes, and he is the quietest man on the Detroit team. (Munsey's Magazine, July, 1912, pp. 528, Big Leaguers In the Spangles and Out, by Charles E. Van Loan)1948 - "The Georgia Peach stood so far above the others, it may be that no player will ever even approach him." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1948, pp. 349, column 1, "Evers Has Everything", by Ed Rumill, pp. 349-350, 354)1959 - "Of all the great athletes in which Pippen held close association throughout the Golden Era of Sports until his retirement in 1958, he pulled no punches in opining that Cobb was the greatest of them all. (Baltimore Sun, 1959)1934 - "Ty Cobb, if correctly quoted, regrets that as a player he took baseball so seriously. Taking baseball seriously made Cobb the greatest player the game has ever known." (Philadelphia Ledger, 1934) (History of Baseball, edited by Joe Reichler Allison Danzig, 1959, pp. 163, which gave the newspaper reference, but no dates)1961 - "Though recognized as the greatest all-around player, Ty was just another private in the ranks when it came to taking orders from Connie Mack in the dugout."(Baseball Digest, 1961, pp. 67-72, "This was Ty Cobb, by Ed Pollock in the Phil. Bulletin)

Jake Morse, Boston sports writer, 1884-1907, late 30's

Dick Young, NY sports writer, 1942-1987

1950 - "Ty, Honus and Babe" -- Unquestionably the greatest three players in baseball history were Cobb, Wagner and Ruth and they can be rated in that order. I wonder how many of those who voted ever saw Cobb, Wagner or Mathewson in action. Or, how

Ring Lardner, Chicago, Boston, St. Louis, NY spwr., 1907-29

Ed Wray, St. Louis sports editor, 1900-1955

1938 - Baseball Types Changing - Baseball types are changing, Warren Brown, sports editor of the Chicago Herald and Examiner has found, and as a result, future recruits are no longer called Ty Cobbs. "We have noticed that our baseball standards are

Ed Rumill, Bost. spwr, Christian Science Monitor, 1930-72Rodger H. Pippen, Baltimore sp. editor, 1906-1957Ed Pollock, Philadelphia sportswriter, 1918-1963

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1925 - "It will be a long time before the game develops a second Cobb, and then it will be just that--a second Cobb. You've seen the first and only. (Cleveland News, June 30, 1925)(Quote found in The Joe Williams Baseball Reader, edited by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 14, column 2, but it gives no page or column)1945 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb. In my book he was the greatest ballplayer of all time. I put Ruth in a separate category, the slugger supreme." (San Francisco, March 21, 1945)1953 - "He was Tyrus Raymond Cobb, possibly the best ball player who ever lived certainly the most dynamic" . . "the ballplayer who, to paraphrase General Forrest, was called "the bestest by the mostest." John McGraw called Honus Wagner the best, many

called Babe Ruth the best but the most called Ty Cobb the best." (Baseball's Greatest Players, by Tom Meany, 1953, pp. 24)1964 - "Then there was Ty Cobb. The only Cobb, combative and controversial. His fiery spirit made him one of the great ones, perhaps the greatest. No one in this favored land who grew up believing that this mercurial man from Georgia was the bestballplayer of all time is likely to change his opinion now. Cobb set more records than any player who ever lived. Many of these have been broken in the 35 years that have passed since he retired. Some still stand. Some will always stand.Cobb was Cobb. There was no other like him, nor is there ever likely to be. (Baseball's Best, by Tom Meany & Tommy Holmes, 1964, pp. 207) 1953 - "Ty Cobb was "without question" the greatest player of all time and Fred Clarke was the No. 1 manager. Those were the definite opinions of Ernest J. Lanigan, historian of the Hall of Fame and Museum, who celebrated his 80th birthday here, Jan.4.

NY spwr. 1907-11, Hall of Fame Historian, 1946-591930 - "Cobb was the fiery, fighting Southern type, a very likable man with a wild temper, and undoubtedly the greatest player of all time. Beside being the best base runner and hitter he was a magnificent fielder and a fine thrower until he hurt hisarm, but it was his indomitable spirit that made him the leader. He fought for every point and fought his fellows if they did not battle as hard for victory as he did. I sat behind Cobb on the club house porch once with Germany Schaefer, watching him

instead of the game. He moved before each pitch, and leaped in one or another direction each time a ball was thrown, never still for an instant and always tensely observant of every move made on the field. (Baseball's Best, pp. 605, (North American Review, May, 1930, pp. 605, "Baseball's Best", by Hugh S. Fullerton)1936 - "Cobb, it is conceded, was the super-player of all time, near perfect in every detail." (Sporting News, January 23, 1936, pp. 3, column 3)

Spwr. Dayton, Detroit('17), Cleveland ('19 - 29), Chicago ('29 - '54) fans liked him. Personally, I hate to think that the Georgian has gone. I started writing baseball with the Detroit Club and found Cobb always ready to help a young fellow along. . . .The Tigers will not seem the same with Cobb missing from the troupe

PR director of East-West Shrine Football Game ('55 - 75, San Fran.,CA) and those who had an opportunity to see him in his prime are to be considered fortunate for there never will be another in baseball like him." (Sporting News, Nov.11, 1926, pp. 2, column 6)Jack C. Kofoed 1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means a poorPhiladelphia spwr. 1912-23 fielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than a busy manNew York spwr. 1923-38 in the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only one onMiami feature columnist 1938-79 which he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder."

(Baseball Magazine, July, 1925, pp. 354, "Who Is The greatest-- Cobb or Ruth?", by Jack C. Kofoed, pp. 353-354)

1933 - "Cobb is the outstanding ball player of all time." (History of Baseball, edited by Joe Reichler & Allison Danzig, 1959, pp. 162, column 1, gives "New York Post, 1933" as a reference, but no dates)1961 - "As for Cobb, he was the greatest. He'd beat out a bunt and pretty soon he'd wind up at home. Baseball to Ty was war. He'd spike his own mother if a base was at stake. He was a player without a weakness except that in his later years his armwas gone. I'll always think this was because of his habit of warming up before a game like a pitcher. I've a notion that despite all the other things he did with such skill and wild abandon,Cobb actually was a frustrated pitcher. (Chicago Tribune, July 18, 1961)1940 - "Deservedly in this list comes Ty Cobb on every poll ever taken, voted "the greatest player that ever lived." What kind of a chap did Ty appear to me? Of course, I saw him on the field, flashing spikes and the old bean working every minute. Tywas irascible to those who didn't know and sometimes to them who did; he would fight at the drop of the hat and frequently did. There were stories of him that he would deliberately cut down a base-guardian as he went his merry way of thievery on thebases. There never was the slightest basis of fact in these charges. After all, you know the base-runner, too, has rights, and all Cobb wanted was all of them. To me, off the field, he was the kindest and most soft-spoken of gentlemen. In the lateryears, of his long service, I got to know him very well and once - he was then with the Athletics- he came to St. Louis and I wrote a story about him. He wasn't the old Cobb then by several nautical miles but his battling spirit still was there and, evenafter 40, he still was a great ball-player. Someway, the story struck his fancy. He invited me out to his hotel to personally thank me and assure me that story would go into his scrapbook. To this scribe, Cobb the nonpareil of baseball players, willever be a star--on and off, as the actors say. A player of his type comes only once in three or four lifetimes." (Baseball Magazine, January, 1940, pp. 341, column 1, "Players We Have Met", by James M. Gould, pp. 341-342, 379-380)

1940 - "They're still looking for another Ty Cobb. And this writer will hock' the family plate--at least he would if there were any--and bet it all that, when the next century of the national pastime begins, they'll still be looking for one.He could hit like a fiend and his like as a base-runner never will be seen again. But he wasn't a great fielder. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1940, pp. 304, What's Baseball's Biggest Asset, by James M. Gould, pp.303-304, 328-329)

Jimmie C. Isaminger 1925 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb ranks as the greatest player that base ball has ever known. . . . It is possible that Rogers Hornsby hits the ball harder, perhaps oftener, than did Tyrus Raymond Cobb. It is indubitably true that Babe Ruth hits a ball with aPhiladelphia sports writer, 1905-41 more wicked swing, more tremendous power than did or does Tyrus Raymond Cobb. But neither ranks in our mind as the ALL-AROUND BATTER that Cobb is. For the Georgian mastered every artifice known to batsmen. . . . He could clasp that bat in his gnarled

hands and hit distance clouts that made him no small marksman with the bludgeon. He could place the ball as adeptly as Keeler, the greatest of all batsmen in this one feature of hitting. Cobb had no weakness as a hitter. He had no fault with the stick.His appearance as the bat in the days of his glory and youth was the moment in which the opposing pitcher had his direst situation, his toughest foe and his darkest moment. . . . So Ty ran "wild" on the bases. But he ran with a purpose. He startedothers on the same path, in fact he revolutionized the game. He tore baseball away from its old wedlock to the army game, merely a contest of hit, run, field and throw. He put it in a scientific groove, from which it did not free itself until Babe Ruthand his bat lured base ball back to the old game of sock. But he had accomplished his purpose. His style, his methods, his finish converted base ball, growing steadily tedious, in which either the pitcher was supreme or the batter was august, into a

game where fresh stratagems were offered to outwit both. The game became speedier, the play became faster, the game held more of an appeal and a lure. And Tyrus Raymond Cobb DID THAT.(Official American League Reach Base Ball Guide,February, 1926, pp. 38)1958 - "As a figure in baseball, as must have been written down this side of this sports page at least a thousand times, Babe Ruth was to the writer "The Old Guy who stood Alone." The description was mine and is, I think, still apt.

beat your brains out with the home run? Or a player who might play only one position and yet might be superlative as a hitter, base runner, defensive star, and a winner of games. Because Babe was so superb and I was writing pieces in his years of glory,and while I believed and still know that in one sense, he "Stood Alone," I still never wrote that opinion of him without somehow thinking of Ty Cobb. Because, you see it's difficult to make a comparison between the sort of players, that Babe and Ty were.That I saw Big George play many games must go without saying. I, also, saw Cobb play quite a few games at Sportsman's Park--before it got around to living every golden minute as Busch Stadium." Bill then went on to say that Mays might go on to exceed allother players who ever lived. (NY Journal-American, Wednesday, July 25, 1958)

J. Roy Stockton 1940 - "Occasionally you'll hear fans arguing about who was the greatest player the game ever knew, but most ball players accept Cobb as tops, without a question. They still talk in dugouts and on trains and in hotel lobbies about how Cobb did this orSt. Louis sportswriter & sp. ed., 1917-1958 that and they are happy when they meet somebody who can tell them about Ty." (Sporting News, Aug. 22, 1940, pp. 4, column 4)

Joe Williams, Cleveland & NY sportswriter, 1910-1964

Tom Meany, NY sports writer, 1922-1956

Ernest Lanigan, Spwr. (Phil.,1887-1991), Sp. News, 1888-1891

Hugh Fullerton, Chicago spwr. 1893-1930's

Francis J. Powers, 1926 - "Cobb's Loss is Baseball's Loss - Cleveland fans were sorry to read of the passing of Ty Cobb. There was no city in the league where Cobb was more popular. He was always the object of much razzing, but he always gave it right back and the

Irving Vaughan, Chicago sportswriter, 1910-1957

James Gould, St. Louis spwr., 1918-1943

Bill Corum, NY spwr. 1920-1958

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1948 - "The question of who was the greatest ball player of all time is largely a matter of opinion and important largely to two persons-- the one expressing the opinion and the one who quickly challenges and disagrees. We saw Sisler at his peak, and it is not difficult to pick him as the greatest in our book. He didn't hit home runs at the Ruth pace. Detroit will laugh at the suggestion that Sisler be ranked above Ty Cobb. But we'll stick to Sisler, nevertheless." (Golden Age of Sports, edited byAllison Danzig and Peter Brandwein, 1948, Baseball by J. Roy Stockton, Sports Editor, St. Louis Post-Dispatch)

Denman Thompson 1969 - The late Denman Thompson, sports editor of the Evening Star for many years, passed on shortly before he could find out if his late, great friend, Ty Cobb, would be voted the all-time best player. Thompson and Cobb carried on a voluminous

Wash. spwr., 1915-53 correspondence for years and Thompson always believed that no greater player ever lived than his friend, "The Georgia Peach". (Washington Post, July 20, 1969, pp. 45, "Considerable Coverage", by Bob Addie)Jack Malaney 1950 - "putting the finger on the greatest of them all caused not the slightest bit of confusion. Tyrus Raymond Cobb does not have even a close competitor when the king of all ball players is to be named. That was an opinion which became unrestrained Boston sportswriter (1919-1956) more than forty years back, a conclusion reached by the majority of the players, managers and scriveners of that era, and was continued throughout the following decade and a half before the Great Ty started to bow to the whims and edicts of Father Time.Red Sox PR staff(1956-1970) It is an opinion which will hold forth, in the thoughts of the brainiest baseball men of the first half of this twentieth century, when the twenty-first century makes its bow, provided that the history of the sport is as accurately written and without

bias as it has been to date. No hope is held that there ever again will be another Ty Cobb. . . .From . . . 1905 until . . . 1928, he was the most amazing of all ball players. . . . Not the greatest outfielder ever to patrol an outer garden nor thepossessor of as great a throwing arm as many others had, Cobb made up for what he lacked by the uncanny manner in which he played the game, so there never was any complaint concerning his defensive ability. Offensively, he was so far ahead of all others he made a joke of comparison. He was the greatest batsman of all time and the scourge of all pitchers during his heyday. . his popularity was confined to his attractiveness as a GREAT. He was hooted and howled at, booed, stoned, attacked by both playersand fans, and yet no other person proved the magnet for real fans as he. . . Boston, always noted in those days as one of the smartest of all baseball cities, disliked him cordially and let him know it. . . Detroit's Tigers were the greatest attraction

because of Ty's presence in the lineup. And because he batted in third spot in the lineup and thus was sure to come to bat in the opening inning, the stands usually were filled when the game started -- nobody wanted to miss seeing even one of his timesat bat. He probably got as much opposition in Boston as in any city, particularly in the days of the great Red Sox teams of the first Bill Carrigan regime. Bill -- Old Rough they call him in those days --refused to acknowledge that Tyrus couldn't bestopped and it was a constant battle whenever the two teams met. . . Think of a player defying an entire team, not only once, but regularly and going on to play in what is today considered superhuman form. Chances are slim there ever will be another Ty

Cobb in baseball ability. . . So perhaps it is not so much of a chance veteran baseball men are taking when they say that Ty Cobb was the greatest in the first half of the twentieth century and that he still will hold that honor when the first hundred

Sam Greene 1926 - "There is hardly any doubt that Cobb was the greatest ball player the game has produced. . . . He could do things no other ball player could equal. He was the most scientific of the batsmen and the most daring and effective of the base runners. Detroit spwr. 1922-63 In the outfield, he was below the standard of Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush and a few others, but he made himself a star. He developed a sense of showmanship that led to some of the most spectacular catches ever made by an outfielder. . . .Baseball will

hardly see his like again." (Sporting News, Nov.11, 1926, pp. 1, column 5) 1926 - "Ty Cobb, lean of flank, is presented as "the greatest ballplayer of them all." That was 15 years ago and it is interesting to note that Cobb clung to the title to the end of his diamond career. The Georgian kept so far ahead of the field that none arose to dispute his eminence. "In comparing a ballplayer," the editor in 1912 wrote, "the Cobb standard always is used." That same line would be appropriate today, tomorrow, possibly as long as baseball endures." (Sporting News, December 16, 1926, pp. 6, column 6)

1934 - "It was there that Ty Cobb started in 1905 the spactacular career that stamped him as the greatest player of all time." (Sporting News, March 22, 1934, pp. 6, column 3)1939 - No other writer (Harry Salsinger) did more to spread the fame of the fiery Cobb, to give the country a clear and sympathetic picture of this many-sided genius whom most qualified observers call the greatest ball player in history." (Sporting News, Dec. 28, 1939, pp. 7, column 3)

James T. Farrell 1957 - "It is impossible to over-praise his ability on the ball field. . . . If there ever is another Ty Cobb in baseball, this will be a most extraordinary happening. Ball players like Cobb are singular, rare, even among those who are indisputablyWrote My Baseball Diary, 1956 great. I am very glad that I saw him play frequently. Ty Cobb is generally regarded as the greatest ball player who ever lived. That was how he was thought of at the height of his career. . . . But be this as it may, Ty Cobb remains as something

phenomenal and utterly extraordinary in the history of baseball . . . He had the natural equipment, the instinct, or intuition, the head, the daring and the interest to be what he was--a ball player of untold greatness. . There are great ball players who are mechanically perfect, who do everything well and show their unmistakable abilities. There are others like Cobb.. Cobb played with his full potential and you always sensed that. He gave himself to the game, and with a baseball intelligence thatmatched his daring. Added to every other talent there was mind. He played with his mind, and this you felt as you watched him.. We can say that there are many kinds of ball players, including great ones. But even among the great ball players there is something particular to say of Ty Cobb. He played with brilliance. Averages, better fielding equipment, night games, more road trips, the lively ball and the whole shebang notwithstanding, it is rare that you see athletes like Ty Cobb. As a ball playerhe was what the French call quelque chose, and on the ball field he had je ne sais quoi. It means the same in English-- "I do not know what." (My Baseball Diary, by James T. Farrell, 1957, pp. 219, 220, 222- 226 )

1966 - "Possibly one had to see Ty Cobb play to believe that he played as he did. He was the most singular phenomenon of a ball player whom I have ever seen play, more singular even than Babe Ruth or Ted Williams." (August 11, 1966)Lamont Buchanan 1951 - "He was Tyrus R. Cobb, the Georgia Peach, called by more experts than any other man, baseball's greatest all-around player. For nearly 25 years Cobb dominated the sport. He played each contest as though his life depended on it. . . Connie Mack,authored many BB books once asked what baseball's greatest record was, without hesitation pointed to Cobb. "The toughest thing to do is to continue hustling and bearing down after you have achieved success. Yet Ty never let any of his incredible achievements slow him down or

make him complacent. His great number of titles over a long period of time is baseball's greatest record." . . . Many experts rate the Georgia Peach as the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. "That Cobb," they swear. "He was in a class all by himself."(The World Series and Highlights of Baseball by Lamont Buchanan, 1951, pp. 35)

Joe Falls 1961 - "I'm sad because I think of the times my boy, Bobby, who would ask me to tell him about Cobb. I'd disguise my ignorance of the man by merely saying, "Bobby, he was the greatest player who ever lived." And he'd ask, hesitantly, even greater thanNY spwr. 1951-1953, Detroit spwr. 1953-?

1969 - "Mr. (Dick) Young asks us to name the greatest single player in history, and this has to be either Ruth or Cobb and you can argue long into the night over the merits of these two players, and finally I came up with Ruth because he seemed to have

more of an impact on the game, though for sheer ability, Cobb probably had an edge on The Bambino." (Sporting News, July 5, 1969, pp. 2, column 2) (note: ripped Ty off through double-talk. Falls now in 2001 puts Ruth #1 again in a personal letter.)1975 - "This was one of the wisest moves ever made in the Tigers' history, because Cobb became the greatest player in the game." "Some say Cobb was the greatest player of all time. " (The Detroit Tigers by Joe Falls, 1975)

Cliff Bloodgood 1926 - Cobb Stands Alone - For twenty-two years Cobb has blazed a flaming trail along the pathways of baseball, has done the things wonderful, spectacular, Herculean -- things almost unbelievable in the sheer brilliance of achievement.

Baseball Magazine Editor-in-Chief & sp. wr. , 1925-54 Cobb not merely has no equal but he never had a rival. They've called him "peerless," the"wonder man," "amazing," the "baseball sublime," yet none ever has properly praised him because the English language knows no adjective sufficiently superlative to describe Ty Cobb--of "Jawja, Sah." (Reach AL Official Baseball Guide, 1926)

1941 - "If any youngster doubts--no old timer who knows anything at all about baseball would--the greatness of Ty Cobb, the game's number one man in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown, let him take a look at the records. This genius of geniuses with his blazing spirit lasted 24 years in the American League and except for his first season batted better than .300 all the way. (Baseball Magazine, January, 1941, pp. 356)1951 - "Ty is generally regarded as the greatest of all players, and a detailed review of his record achievements alone would require more space than is allotted for this article. (Baseball Magazine, May, 1951, pp. 405)1954 - "But as a hitter and as a base runner, Cobb stood alone. You can say that Mays has more power but all you actually know is that Willie hits the modern lively ball farther than Cobb could hit the leather covered rock pitchers threw 40 years ago.

years of organized baseball are finished. (Baseball Digest, April, 1950, pp. 73-77, Poll names Ruth greatest, but --

Babe Ruth?" I'd reply, "Yes, even greater than Babe Ruth," . . .and his eyes would light up with an admiration that can come only with hero worshipper of 9." (Detroit Free Press, Tuesday, July 18, 1961, pp. 25, "

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Home runs were not unknown to Cobb. for instance, he led the league in 1909 with nine, indicating that he was one of the best of his time. (Brooklyn Eagle, August 11, 1954, pp. 18 This is Ridiculous--Mays Versus Cobb)(Author's note; In the interest of historical accuracy, Cobb easily outslugged Mays. Cobb led his league in RBI's 4 times, Total Bases 6 times, slugging ave. 8 times, OBA 6 times. Mays led the same categories 0 times, 3 times, 5 times, 2 times. Moreover, Cobb may have led his league only once in home runs, but he came in 2nd place for homers twice, and 3rd place twice. Overall, only Ruth can outrank Cobb as a slugger historically.)1926 - "Cobb, the player, was the greatest. . . Cobb, when at his best, was always doing the unexpected. When he reached first he usually upset the entire opposing team." (Sporting News, Dec. 9, 1926, pp. 3, column 2)

1926 - "Cobb's retirement will give birth again to the fruitless discussion that attempts to fasten the fame of being the greatest player in the history of the game on this man or that man. It will result in a digging up of the records of Pop Anson,famous first baseman and manager of the old Chicago White Stockings: of Honus Wagner, the Flying Dutchman of the Pittsburgh infield, and of the contemporary Babe Ruth and Rogers Hornsby. Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirersof Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps even greater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines,and no doubt, has proven a greater drawing card, but Cobb was Cobb and no other has approached him. . . There has only been one Cobb--there'll never be another." "Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirers of Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps evengreater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines, and , no doubt, has proven a greater drawing card, but Cobb was Cobb and no other has approached him." (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 7, column 3)1965 - "Ty Cobb was a boyhood hero of mine. I always thought he was the greatest baseball player who ever pulled on a pair of spikes." (Unplayable Lies, by Fred Corcoran, 1965)1961 - "Every one identified with baseball agrees that Cobb was the game's greatest individual player," remarked Keener. "Of course, there is Babe Ruth and his record as a home run slugger, and the mighty Honus Wagner. However, Ty was creative, daring,

Hall of Fame Director, 1952-63 and courageous. He compiled more records than any other player. Ty will be missed in Cooperstown and throughout baseball. However, his performance on the ball field will live on and on."(July 20, 1961,"Ty Cobb Dies; One of First Hall of Famers",by Farmer)1963 - "I still think Ty Cobb was number one," the former sports writer said. "He was the individualist, the creator. He was the first man to go from first to third on an infield out. He was the first to score from second on an outfield fly."In praising Cobb, Keener said he did not intend to take any luster away from Babe Ruth or any of the other all-time stars of

the game. They were all different," he added, "Ruth was a stylist--the best in his specially, the home run. He captured the imagination of the public. He was great."(Staten Island Advance, August 24, 1963, picked up this article from Cooperstwon, N.Y. (AP)--"Ty Cobb Is Still No. 1 To Baseball's Historian")

Gordon Cobbledick Many of Cobbledick's columns focused on the never-ending debate over who was the greatest ballplayer of all time or who did or did not deserve admission to baseball's Hall of Fame. Cobbledick did not agree with polls of sportswriters and broadcastersCleveland sportswriter, 1928-1964 who named George Herman "Babe" Ruth as the greatest player of the twentieth century. In Cobbledick's opinion Ty Cobb was the greatest player. Acknowledging that Ruth was a superlative home run hitter, Cobbledick maintained that in every other category,

with the possible exception of throwing, Cobb was superior to Ruth. (Dictionary of Literary Biography, Volume 171, "American Sports Writers", pp. 75)Harvey T. Woodruff 1926 - "Ty Cobb, for 22 years with Detroit and the last two seasons with Philadelphia, has announced his retirement from active baseball at the end of the current pennant fight. Thus passes the greatest diamond performer of all time. That is Chicago spwr., 1898-03, 1909-37 The Wake's opinion. With those who may choose some one else we have no quarrel or argument, but for all around accomplishment give us Ty Cobb. Babe Ruth unquestionably has attracted more people through the turnstiles than any other player, past or

present. He has produced more home runs in one season and still is producing them. He is a clouter. If Cobb be inferior to Ruth as a home run hitter he was not inferior in any other respect, not even in batting. On the bases, in the outfield, in quick

thinking, he outclassed the Bambino. One watches with anticipation when Babe Ruth is at bat. One watched with anticipation when Ty Cobb was at bat, in the field, or on the bases. If one didn't watch one was likely to miss something worth seeing. Even when Ty passes his name will endure long in record book. He led the American league in batting twelve years -- nine years in succession, from 1907-1915 inclusive. That mark is approached only by Hans Wagner, who topped the list eight times in theNational league. Cobb led his league in stolen bases ten different seasons and had a record of 96 in 1915. Marks which he holds take nearly a half page in the baseball guide. Strangely enough, this greatest player of all time never enjoyed being on a world's championship aggregation. Three times while he was a member Detroit won its league pennant --1907-8-9--and lost three times in succession, to the Cubs twice and to Pittsburgh. Always a high salaried player. Cobb retires independently wealthy. . . . It always will be a pleasant memory to The Wake that we saw him in action so many times during his prime. ( Sept. 23, 1928, Chicago Daily Tribune, In the Wake of the News; Harvey T. Woodruff inherited this column from Jack Lait in Nov.,'19,who in turn, had inherited it from Ring Lardner in Jun.,'19. Lardner had conducted the column since June, 1913. Harvey T. Woodruff conducted the column In the Wake of the News until his death in '37, when Arch Ward inherited it until his death in '55.

James Crusinberry 1951 - "In fact, it was his terrific base-running, along with his superb batting and strong fielding, that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game ever had. Now, of course, speaking of Cobb as the greatest player of all time may not be a universalSpwr. (Chicago, '03-07, 11-23, 27-32), (NY, '10-13), (St. Louis, '08-10) opinion, but it is mine as well as that of such an authority as the late Charles A. Comiskey and a number of other baseball men who watched Cobb during his entire career. (Baseball Magazine, April, 1951, pp. 375).

1952 - "Crowding the 25-year champs at 24 was perhaps the greatest player of them all, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach. Cobb set the American League afire shortly after joining the Detroit Tigers back in 1905, and kept the flame burning brightly until he hung up his spikes with the Philadelphia Athletics in 1928." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1952, pp. 17)

1941 - So speaks Tyrus Raymond Cobb, generally considered the greatest ballplayer of all time. (Baseball Magazine, August, 1941, pp. 414)1941 - "Perhaps the most classic and wide-spread baseball question is, "Who was the game's greatest ballplayer?" Most of the decisions on this one, and there must have been millions, have slipped the duke to either Tyrus Raymond Cobb, or John HenryWagner. If, in contrast to the baseball umpire's decision, which is generally in the minority, but always final, this were left to a vote, the verdict would undoubtedly go to Cobb, the fiery Georgia Peach. But if it were left to a consensus of expertbaseball opinions of those who were familiar with both players in their prime, it would probably go to the Flying Dutchman.With such acknowledged baseball experts as John J. McGraw and Ed Barrow giving Wagner the palm."(Baseball Magazine,May,1941,pp. 554)1930 - "Shortstop would present the second greatest ballplayer the world has produced--Honus Wagner. Next to Cobb, the Flying Dutchman rates as the game's most wonderful performer. Who will ever forget those two? Wagner was a circus all by himself. Many people went every time Pittsburgh came to town just to see Honus play like they go to see Babe Ruth sock home runs now. Now for outfielders. Ty Cobb leads them all. Ty could do anything. . . He is the game's greatest hitter, run scorer and baserunner. . . He ran wild on the bases. . . He always specialized in the unexpected. . . He played at all times to win--tried his hardest even though his team might be out of the pennant race. That's the spirit that conquers worlds and builds empires." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1930, pp. 363-365, 375; quote apears on pp. 365))

Malcolm Bingay 1946 - "What Shakespeare was to literature, Beethoven was to music, Caruso was to tenors, Napoleon was to warfare, Lincoln was to statesmanship,Newton was to physics, Ty Cobb was to baseball--peculiar, alone, unique; the apotheosis of the apple slappers.Detroit News sp ed. 1903-10, . . . I am also asked, whenever I broach the subject, what Ty Cobb would do with this fast ball and modern style of play. I have already explained what Sam Crawford would do. But with Ty it is different. Nobody ever knew what he would do--anywhere or Detroit News city editor, 1910-14 at any time, on or off the field. With his lightninglike thought processes, his power of concentration, his sublime courage and his ruthless will to win, there is no doubt he would be a sensation under any set of conditions, or with any kind of ball. But

Detroit News managing editor, 1914-28 it would not be the Ty Cobb who stands alone now in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown. Ty's genius was strategy, . . . That year(1915) Cobb was thrown out thirty-eight times while trying to steal. But here figures don't mean much. More strategy. AnyDetroit News London Bureau chief, 1928-30 time the Tigers were away ahead, and our pitcher was working smoothly, Cobb always ran wild on the bases, just to build up his reputation as an India-rubber idjit on a spree, as that old sports writer, Kipling, might have called him. He never wanted any Detroit Free Press, editorial director, 1930-53 infield, pitcher or catcher, to have a moment's rest. He wanted'em so badly scared they'd still be frightened the next day. I must admit that, having watched this piece of greased lightning in human form ever since that first day he joined the Tigers in

August 1905 after he had hung up his spiked shoes for good, the game was never quite the same for me. I never see a runner rounding second now, hesitating and dancing back to the bag like a frightened bird whose mother is trying to push him out of theSaw Cobb every Detroit home game, 1905-26 nest, that I don't recall what Cobb would have done in the same situation. . . With Cobb on the bags, it was easy for the batters following him to get hits. The pitcher had something else on his mind. . . . But he ( Tigers owner Frank J. Navin) never

denied it was Ty's fame brought the money to the gate. Ty made possible the great new field. . . .There are many leaders of business today who will confess that they came to Detroit during the first and second decades of the twentieth century so that

Herman Wecke, St. Louis sportswriter, 1912-66Bill Dooly, Phil. spwr., 1924-47, Phillies' PR staff, 1947-56

Fred Corcoran. Massachusetts golf promoterSid Keener, St. Louis spwr., 1907-51,

Hub Miller, NY sports writer

Dwight Freeburg, Baseball Magazine writerArthur O. W. Anderson, Baseball Magazine writer

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they could watch Ty Cobb play. . . . "I didn't know that you were a baseball fan, Jimmy." (Malcolm Bingay to Jimmy Doolittle, famous aviator.) "I'm not," he grinned; "just a Cobb fan. As a kid in St. Louis I never missed a game in which Cobb played, but | can't remember bing interested in any others. What interested you in Ty Cobb?" "Speed!" said Jimmy. "Just speed! I wanted to see him go around those bases." "Would ty have made a good aviator?" "Yes--a wonder! I have never known any other man whohad such complete co-ordination of mind and body." (Detroit Is My Own Home Town by Malcolm Bingay, 1946, pp. 152, 154-155, 157-158, 163, 259-260.)1921 - "In stategy, there isn't a manager in the game who can out-brain Cobb. He is the most brilliant player in the game and he can be expected to devise brilliant plays for the club as he has devised them for himself."

(Sporting News, April 21, 1921, pp. 4, column 3)Wilbur W. Wood 1961 - "I was flabbergasted that this greatest of all ball players remembered the incident and had demeaned himself to apologize publicly. . . I submit that this bears out your contention that Cobb was a wonderful and warm-hearted man, tops in characterSt. Louis spwr., 1913-19, 23-24 NY spwr., 1924-50 and everything else." (Sporting News, December 14, 1961, pp. 14, column 4 & 5)

1961 - "pointing a finger at the greatest ballplayer of all time" (San Francisco Examiner, July 21, 1961, by Abe Kemp)1925 - "Cobb, who has done more for local baseball than any man living or dead. The greatest player who ever wore spikes, holder of more batting and base running records than any other man, a fiery and hard-working manager-this is all the Georgia Peach has been to Detroit. (NY Times, May 17, 1925, pp. S1)

Stanley Woodward 1961 - "He was the greatest hitter, the greatest base-runner, the greatest strategist and --The GREATEST BALL PLAYER (New York Herald Tribune, July 18, 1961)Spwr. (Boston, 1923-30), (NY, '30-62)

In the same blunt appraisal, Gallico saw Cobb as the greatest player who ever lived, greater even than Babe Ruth or Honus Wagner, a unique, compelling character. . . an astonishing man who infused such drama, flesh and blood into the chill records he set

lived in Europe, Monte Cargo, Monaco, (1936-76, death) that his like has not been seen since. (The Golden People, by Paul Gallico, 1965)1935 - "The greatest all-around performer that baseball ever developed, taking into account all of the game's ramifications, batting, base running, defensive skill, longevity and general brilliance, was Ty Cobb. Only a stride behind him rode Tris Speaker. In fact, Spoke's one misfortune was that his illustrious career had to run concurrently with that of the famous Georgia Peach. And the most colorful, glamorous and perhaps the most truly great of them all was George Herman Ruth."

(New York Times, December 26, 1935, pp. 24, "Sports of the Times", by John Drebinger, Pinch-Hitting for John Kieran)1938 - "Cobb, perhaps, came closer than any to filling all the requirements. He was dynamic, brilliant, literally driving himself to greatness. What he did not come by naturally he acquired by long and patient practice. He ranked for years as thegreatest sure-fire hitter the game ever saw. To this he added a dash and daring on the basepaths no player has ever been able to match. He was not the greatest of fielders, but by long, diligent practice he drove himself to the point where he could doall things more than reasonably well. With the same determination that he tore into his sliding pits until his sides were raw he would practice throws to the plate until his arm was ready to drop off." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1938, pp. 549)1945 - "But why try to explain Cobb's method of doing things? He was so far beyond the average that what might seem simple and fundamental to him would be out of the reach of the ordinary athlete. The fiery Georgian--pardon me, he is a very meekchap--made so much baseball history that his like never will come again." (NY Times, September 2, 1945, Sports of the Times column, by Arthur Daley)1957 - "Cobb was more than just a great player, probably the greatest of them all. He was a diamond intellectual, analyst and psychologist rolled into one. Not only could he hit better and run faster that anyone else, but he also could outthink anyother ball player." (NY Times, June 4, 1957, Sports of the Times column by Arthur Daley)

1952, 1962 - "Cobb is one popular conception of the greatest baseball player of all time." (Baseball's Hall of Fame, by Ken Smith, 1952, 1962, pp. 109)1961 - "At Tupelo, Miss., last February, Andy Reese, Giants' speedster of the late '30's recalled how Cobb worked with Lefty O'Doul and himself. "We trained in his home town, Augusta, and he hadn't yet reported for his own last year with the A's. Hemade Lefty and me come out every morning at 7 o'clock and hit. I guess that's what he used to do himself when he was a minor leaguer. But here he was, 41, out there with a bat. Cobb won the batting chamionship for O'Doul in my book."(Smith, continued) (New York Mirror, Thursday, July 20, 1961, by Ken Smith)1914 - "Off the field Ty is first a gentleman, affable and retiring. He's not the bellicose, blatant butcher-beater that he has been pictured. On the contrary, he's what Robert Burns would call a "discontented ghost, a perturbed spirit." Ty has a grievance. Cobb, unquestionably the greatest ball player on earth, the highest salaried individual in the rank and file of the diamond" (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, October 8, 1914) 1939 - "There never was such a combination of brains and skill." Batchelor recalls today. "Others might have been able to imagine the plays he made, but only Cobb could execute them." ( Sporting News, April 6, 1939, pp. 9, column 5)1961 - "As the oldest active member of the Baseball Writer's Association of America, in point of continuous service dating back to October 1908, it was my privilege to see a very large percentage of the baseball games in which Tyrus Raymond Cobbappeared during his tenure of 22 years with the Detroit Tigers. This, I believe, lends some authority to my appraisal of his talents and accomplishments. It has established that, in my considered opinion, he was , all things considered,the greatest ballplayer that ever lived and the most valuable piece of property ever owned by any ball club,". . . "Early in his baseball life, a canard developed that Ty was a brawler who constantly sought trouble. Unfortunately for him, there then

were . . . on the Detroit roster, a few who were contemptible bullies. . . "So much of the Cobb saga has to do with his hitting and basestealing that many fans forget his accomplishments as a fielder. He was one of the best, with speed enough to cover ground, good judgment on fly ball, sure hands, and an adequate arm. In fact, in his early days his arm rated excellent but he impaired it somewhat by insisting on trying to develop into a pitcher and spending a lot of time throwing curves and varioustrick deliveries. ( My Life in Baseball - the True Record, By Ty Cobb with Al Stump, 1961, pp. 9-11)1965 - "Ah, now there was a ball player. A player of fantastic skills. . . .But he won't utter a word about Cobb, the man. "There's only one thing I want to remember--that he was a great ball player. I don't want to remember the rest," he said. (Batchelor, continued), (Sporting News, August 28, 1965, pp. 15, column 2)1962 - "While active players vied for the limelight, the game lost the greatest player in its history when death claimed by Ty Cobb." (Sporting News, Jan. 3, 1962, pp. 14, column 2)

C. William Duncan, 1958 - "I didn't know Cobb intimately when he played for Detroit. I met him only once then, via Lu Blue, the Detroit first baseman. I did know Cobb intimately in 1927 and 1928, when he played for the Philadelphia Athletics, also in 1929 and in 1930. Phil. spwr. 1921-67 The latter year I visited him for ten days at his home in Augusta. Cobb to me was not only by far the greatest player I ever saw, he was a fascinating conversationalist, well versed in finance and world affairs as well as baseball. I spent dozens of

of evenings with him and listened to him by the hour. I was surely a friend of his and he of mine. Al Simmons was his friend. So was Dan Howley, manager of the Browns and later Cincinnati. When I visited Ty in Augusta, he seemed to know everybody and everybody knew him. Some of his buddies went fishing with us. He was far from a lonely man. So I want to pay tribute to the greatest ball player and, in my opinion, an outstanding personality and friend." (Sp. News, Nov. 19, 1958, pp. 15, column 4 & 5) 1962 - "Ty Cobb was a man who had many friends and there were many who disliked him. . .to me he was the greatest player I ever saw by far during 53 years watching the game as a fan, feature writer and TV commentator."

(Sporting News, Jan. 17, 1962, pp. 15, column 2)1939 - "they never laughed at the man who was to stand alone as the fiery genius of baseball.". . .Bill Croke. . . He is the man who peddled the greatest ball player of all time to Bill Armour. . . July 4, 1905. (New Enterprise Ass., Apr. 6, 1939)1944 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone as the fiery genius of baseball. Ty Cobb possessed a combination of talents that has been found in no one else, but it was his burning desire to excel that made him the greatest ball player who ever lived. Cobbwas so sincerely a bad loser that he became a terrific winner. Cobb was the only player who dominated the game. . . .They did not know how to play him. (They Played the Game: The Story of Baseball Greats, by Harry Grayson, 1944, pp. 3)1927 - "People talk of Babe Ruth as a better ball player than Cobb. Right now, he is. But when one considers their life time averages there can't be any comparison. Cobb is in a class by himself." (NY Herald-Tribune, 1927,)

Barney Kremenko,

Bert Walker, Detroit spwr. 1920-47

Abe Kemp, San Francisco spwr., 1907-69James R. Harrison, NY spwr.

Paul Gallico, NY spwr. 1923-36,

John Drebinger, NY spwr. 1927-64

Arthur Daley, NY spwr., 1926-74

Kenneth D. Smith, NY spwr. 1925-63, Hall of Fame, 1964-80

William J. O'Connor, St. Louis spwr., 1908-1917

Ed Batchelor, Detroit spwr. 1906-17

Edgar B. Brands, St. Louis spwr., 1930-1954

Harry M. Grayson, Phil. & NY spwr., 1910's-74

Rud Rennie, NY spwr., 1925-56

1961 - Cobb Was Game's Greatest Star - "Cobb, the first player elected to Baseball's Hall of Fame-- even outpolling home run king Babe Ruth by seven votes in the original balloting in 1936--was the unique genius of the game's first century. . .

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NY spwr. 1931- . . . brought to the game a special brand of daring, intensity and consuming will to win that never has been matched by any player past or present. . . Cobb most recently was honored by the New York chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association on Jan. 21, 1960. In an unusual departure from custom, the writers honored Cobb as "the outstanding player of 1911" -- 49 years later--and heard him say feelingly, "I'm proud I was a ball player." (NY Journal-American, July 18, 1961)1950 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, recognized in Georgia and other parts of the world as the greatest ball player of all time, came home to his native state, August 29, and found the Atlanta Crackers waiting for him, (Sporting News, September 6, 1950, pp. 29, column 2)

1984 - "(Maury) Allen's book is entertaining and thoughtful, and its selections at times are courageous. He avoids the knee-jerk selection of Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth as the greatest ever, " (Bill James 1st Historical Baseball Abstract, 1984, pp. 276)Ward Morehouse, 1943 - "I saw my first big league (baseball) game in 1920. I have found it generally agreed that the White Sox club of 1919 were the absolute standout team of all time, that Cobb was the greatest player and Johnson the greatest pitcher.NY Sun dramatic critic & Broadway columnist, 1920'2-50's (Sporting News, September 24, 1942, pp. 2, column 5)

1961 - "Thus will come to an earthly end the saga of the Georgia Peach, Ty Cobb, the incomparable, the athlete aflame with an insatiable desire to succeed, the greatest baseball player of all time. His accomplishments are legion and have been recountedmany times before." (Atlanta Constitution, July 19, 1961, pp. 26)1931 - "Probably the most colorful player of all time, as well as the greatest, was Ty Cobb." (Sporting News, February 19, 1931, pp. 3, column 6)

John Durant 1947 - "Cobb comes first. He was King. A score of years after his retirement, when the first Hall of Fame selections were being made, the experts said, "Well, first of all there's Cobb." His name led all the rest. And for the twenty-four years heFree-lance book author played he led all the rest--in hitting, base stealing, run making--in everything. He is remembered as a base runner and hitter but he was spectacular in the outfield although his arm was considered little better than average. Even so, he led the league

in assists one year. As for his batting, he had no peer and it is unlikely that he ever will have. . . remember, that Cobb never got anything but the best from the pitchers he faced. They never eased up on him. They worked the corners and fed him everyknown trick delivery. . . . Cobb was King. ( The Story of Baseball by John Durant, 1947, pp. 68, 74, )

Wilton S. Farnsworth, 1912 - STAR OF TIGER TEAM IN A CLASS BY HIMSELF --TY COBB IS KING OF BALL PLAYERS --"After seven years of work on the diamond Ty Cobb--Tyrus Raymond Cobb is his complete title--is without doubt the king of baseball players. The accompanying box

Boston, Atlanta, NY spwr. 1904-37 proves that he is a better offensive player than either Lajoie or Wagner, the only men who dispute his title. And where they come in to be compared in the same class with the Tiger is beyond the wildest dream of the writer. . . . Cobb may have a superiorin every department of the game, but all around he is the champion. Davy Jones, the former leftfielder of the Detroits, beat Cobb in a 100-yard race for a side bet one day last season. Surely Milan, of Washington, and Speaker, of Boston, have it on himin fielding. Birmingham Cree and a dozen others have a better arm. But where does this bunch compare with Cobb? Why, he would be worth them all put together if the bunch was on the market." ( Atlanta Georgian, January, 1912, by W. S. Farnsworth)1945 - "IT WAS TY COBB, THE GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER who ever lived, at present a very successful businessman, whom we wanted. . . .Esquire, the magazine, had asked us to secure Ty Cobb's services if possible, and we wouldn't have batted any eye, nor would Esquire have batted one of the pop eyes of the gentleman on its cover, if Mr. Cobb had suggested a stiff fee. If Mr. Cobb's services were actually to be paid for, on a business bases, in this situation something like $10,000 would have beenabout right. Ty is a good business man; and he knows it. And some say he's a difficult uncooperative type guy. Why, this greatest player who ever lived, this "difficult guy," this very busy man who had previously had not the slightest indication thathe would be asked to do this job--right there, then and there, without hesitation; gave two weeks of his time and a lot of work to the American kids who love baseball and promptly said he couldn't accept any money for working with a bunch of boys. . . .Weshall never forget Ty's unqualified first answer, "If you mean it, I'll do anything you say." (San Francisco Chronicle, April 27, 1945)

"He ran the bases as they never had been run before and never will be run again. He gave no quarter and he asked none. He took the extra chance, got that extra base. He was flame and fury. He was Ty Cobb. There will never be another."(Manning, Continued) (Detroit Times, February 18, 1960, Last of a series of 3 articles on Ty Cob)

acceptance the game could bestow--the first man to be enshrined in the Hall of fame. Cobb's accomplishments are so numerous that he virtually turned the record boods of baseball into an autobiography. (Sporting News, Jan. 24, 1862, pp. 12, column 5)He left a record of accomplishment that may some day be challenged but never surpassed.1937 - "Ty Cobb was a shining example of a brilliant but difficult temperament. He was the greatest player baseball has ever known. " (Baseball Magazine, July, 1937, pp. 308)1960 - "greatest baserunner of all time". . ."his super talent". . "There will never be another Ty Cobb. racing for the nearest base, his steel spikes glistening under the summer sun, a star hated, feared, and admired." (Hartford Times, April 16, 1960)

Wrote "Baseball Immortals, 1955 (Baseball Immortals by Ed Burkholder, 1955, pp. 28, 30)J. E. O'Phelan, 1926 - "The passing from the active field of the major leagues of Ty Cobb was recognized in these parts as the big news story that it undoubtedly was. Even the newspapers which had been filled with wet and dry propaganda prior to the election allowed

space even in the editorial columns to pay tribute to the Georgia Peach's greatness." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 2, column 5)1928 - "Men mobbed him if they could, yelled for his heart and shouted for his blood. Then they cooled down and shattered the welkin with plaudits for his might. They saw him throw an enemy camp into a ferment with one derisive twist of his fingers

Boston spwr. (1896-09), Phil. spwr.(1909-39) and thumb. They saw him disconcert nine men by his mere presence by his mere presence on the bases. They saw him perform miracles on the diamond, such miracles as no successor has ever bequeathed to baseball." (Sporting News, Sept. 27, 1928, pp. 4,col. 3)

Cleveland spwr. (1914), Camden spwr.1950 - "Smith declared that Ty Cobb was still his choice as the greatest ball player of all time despite Babe Ruth's prowess as a home run hitter. His said Bill Lange, old-time slugging outfielder with the White Stockings in the 90's, might haveapproached Cobb's greatness had he not retired at his peak." (Sporting News, May 3, 1950, pp. 42, column 5)1925 - Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the "Georgia Peach," who is without a doubt the greatest athlete of all time, is rapidly nearing the "dead line" of his scintillating baseball career. For twenty years Cobb has been making and breaking record on the diamond, andeach season finds him still hitting the ball, still fighting with amazing energy to win every game he starts." (Los Angeles Times, Nov 29, 1925, pg. A4)

1926 - "Ty Cobb. Will the world ever see his equal? For twenty-one years now he has led Father Time a merry chase, and has been giving that worthy gentleman, as well as the baseball prophets, the merry "Ha, Ha," ever since 1914, when the firstTy Cobb is slipping stories started to circulate. Cobb may not be the greatest manager in baseball, but he is its greatest player, and there never was a greater one before him." (Los Angeles Times, Apr 27, 1926, pg. B2)1926 - "We rise to the side of our contemporary expert, Ed Franey, who utters a loud and vehement protest against the theory that Babe Ruth is the greatest ballplayer. Babe is the best press-agented ballplayer and no mistake but he has a long way to

travel before he can begin to compare records with Ty Cobb or, to go back a little further, Honus Wagner and Nap Lajoie." (Los Angeles Times, July 31, 1926, pg. 11)1950 - "I'd like to join my fellow sports-page alumnus Henry McLemore in disagreeing with the "best athletes of the half century" picked by the Associated Press. Worst boner of all was picking Babe Ruth as the greatest ballplayer -- he couldn't carryTy Cobb's glove. Cobb was a better hitter, better fielder, better base runner, better contributor to the team's victory spirit." (Los Angeles Times, Mar 7, 1950, pg. A11927 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer. And he is still the greatest ballplayer. He plays not only with his legs and arms but with his brains. He thinks every second of the game and acts. In years gone by Ty would tell the pitcher he was goingdown to second on the next pitched ball. And he went. He doesn't do so much talking nowadays, but let his opponents for a second take their minds off him and he will do something that will tend to upset their equilibrium's. When Cobb is on the fieldhe considers every one of the opposing players his personal enemy. In his own mind his mission on any diamond is to win. On the ball field he never asked nor gave any quarter. Fight! Fight! Fight! That's his individual psychology when he dons a

Furman Bisher, spwr.(1938-90's), Atlanta spwr. (1950-90's)

Bill James, prolific baseball author, 1970's-present

AL Thomy, Atlanta Constitution spwr.

Edgar F. Wolf (Jim Nasium),St. Louis sports cartoonist, spwr.

Bill Leiser, San Francisco spwr. 1922-65

John Manning, Detroit spwr. & sp.ed., 1922-60

John F. Steadman, Baltimore sp.ed. (1945-2000) 1961 - To Be The Best Was Cobb's Obsession - Baseball and the human race never knew another like him. . . . he cared not that he wasn't always popular, only that he was forever the best. His rich ability earned for him the highest decoration of

John J. Ward, Baseball Magazine writerArt B. McGinley, Hartford, CT spwr., 1920-74Ed Burkholder, Free-lance author 1955 - "When Jim McAleer said "No" to Harry Baker, the St. Louis Browns lost the greatest ballplayer that ever played baseball. You may have guessed his name by now, as he was none other than the great Tyrus Raymond Cobb, better known as

Gordon J. Mackay, spwr. 1896-1939

Harry B. Smith, San Francisco spwr.

Matt Gallagher, Chicago spwr.

Feg Murray, Syndicated Sportswriter and Cartoonist

Bill Henry, LA Times spwr. 1921-70

Jack Gallagher, LA Times staff correspondent

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a uniform. Otherwise he is a genteel southern gentleman." (Los Angeles Times, May 8, 1927, pg. A4)1936 - "I think Ty Cobb was the greatest ball player who ever lived. Hans Wagner second." (Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1936, pg. A1)1946 - "Ty Cobb was and is the greatest baseball player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Jul 26, 1946, pg. 5)

Prescott Sullivan, San Francisco spwr. 1927-76 1953 - "The man who is generally regarded as baseball's No. 1 immortal . . . (Sporting News, February 25, 1953, pp. 11, column 1, "Ty Doesn't Believe Collins Had It on Him", by Prescott Sullivan, pp. 11, column 1-5)

1958 - "The greatest and richest of ball players was only 42 when he had to quit." (San Francisco Examiner, 1958?)1935 - . . . "Ty Cobb, the one and only. Ty ranks with Babe Ruth as baseball's greatest player". (Los Angeles Times, March 18, 1935, pp. 14, "The Sports X-Ray", by Bob Ray)1940 - "At that Earl (Hamilton) rolled up one pants leg and showed three ugly scars, lasting mementos from the fightingest, greatest player baseball ever had." (Los Angeles Times, March 14, 1940, pp. 24, "The Sports Ray", by Bob Ray)

Miscellaneous support for Ty as the Greatest Ever1933 - "He has been named the greatest outfielder of all times. There have been outfielders at different periods of the game who surpass the Georgian's performance as a fielder and thrower, but there the argument ends. Speaker, who ranks but a fewpoints behind Cobb in all-around value, was superior to Cobb on the defensive. . . Cobb was never acclaimed as an artist in playing the outfield. He was more colorful, in many ways, than was Speaker, but in playing the position, the Peach didn't have theclass of Tris. The famous Georgian was brilliant, aggressive, fearless and dashing in all departments of the game, but his fame came chiefly as a batter and base runner. Speaker had dash and daring, too, could throw and run and his ability to come into take a short fly and to race far back to take a long drive will long be remembered. It was Speaker's original style that made him the outstanding player of an outfield position. There was nothing erratic, eccentric or temperamental about Speaker,

but when he cut loose in his outfield playing he was the personification of all that colorful, brilliant and impressive. Then this great outfielder was a batsman who I rate among the best." (Sporting News, January 5, 1933, pp. 5, column 1)JG Taylor Spink, 1942 - "For many years we have been asked the same question, over and over: Who was the greatest player of all time?" . . . finally, we decided to put it to the ball players themselves. We addressed letters to about 100 former major league stars and Sporting News Owner & Editor-In-Chief, 1914-62 managers and asked them the question. One hundred and two votes were cast and the answer is: Tyrus Raymond Cob. Not alone did the old ace players and pilots of the nation select Cob as the greatest player of all time but they made him their choice by

an overwhelming majority. He received 60 of the votes cast; the remaining 42 were divided among 14 players. . . So there you are. You know how the players stand. We know how they voted and why and we sincerely hope that this will provide a lasting answer to the question. (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13, " Greatest Player of All Time Survey", by JG Tayor Spink)1947 - "and that Cobb, the greatest player of all time, had been released. Just like that! (Judge Landis and 25 Years of Baseball, by JG Taylor Spink, 1947) (Actually ghost written by Fred Lieb, Spink signed off on it & endorsed it.)1945 - "My big thrill in baseball was Sisler's play in 1922, the year the Browns lost the pennant to the Yankees by a game. Ty Cobb was baseball's greatest player, but in 1922, when Sisler hit .420 and stole 51 bases, I think he was greater for one

Red Sox Owner, 1923-33, Dodgers Buss.Man.., 1934-35, season than any player in the game." (Sporting News, Dec. 6, 1945, pp. 5, column 3)Braves Pres., 1936-44, Hall of Fame director, 1948-52

1927 - "Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, the greatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime." (Sporting News, March 14,1929, pp. 5, column 2)1928 - "Ty Cobb Greatest Player. Ty Cobb, in the opinion of President Barnard of the American League, is the greatest player baseball has ever had." (Los Angeles Times, Aug. 19, 1928, pg. A3)

Albert (Happy) Chandler 1983 - "Ty Cobb has to be recognized as the greatest ball player American baseball has had. . . . Yes, Tyrus Raymond Cobb from Georgia. Ty Cobb has to be No. 1 based upon the records. He was my idol. Opinions die, but his records live. Baseball Commissioner (1945-51) And he was exciting on the field. . . . He was a tremendous player and he fought fair. He was the first man elected to the Hall of Fame." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)

1938 - "Come to think of it, Cobb was the best. Ruth was the guy at the gate, but Ty could do things." (Sporting News, June 30, 1938, pp. 4, column 6)Fred Logan 1938 - "In 49 years I have not seen a greater ball player than Ty Cobb. For batting, skill, speed, audacity, base-running achievements -- well he was in a class by himself. But when it comes to color, ability to draw the crowd, and appeal to the fansClubhouse man: Giants(1889-1938) & Yankees (1903-1938) --Babe Ruth had no second. He was the greatest home run hitter, of course. But he also was the top card at the gate. Baseball has not seen anything approaching him, and the future will struggle in vain to match the Babe at the box office. Cobb had a

habit of Cobb had a habit of making enemies in the crowd. Ruth always made friends. He was an idol, a great showman -- and he never overdid his showmanship." (Sporting News, Aug. 25, 1938, pp. 4, column 6)1962 - "To me, the spectacle of Cobb stretching a double into a triple was always more exhilarating than a Ruthian homer." ( Baseball Wit and Wisdom by Frank Graham and Dick Hyman, 1962, pp. 68)

NY Times Book Review ed., 1944-1946 "Then the crowd fell into a nervous silence that was a tribute accorded no other ball player I ever saw. . . Through the dust I saw him kick the ball out of Buck Weaver's hand, and break for home, and make it. He stood up, laughing. I sat there, sweating. For here, obviously, was something not quite of this world, cynical, merciless, a little frightening." (Esquire, Diamond Blues, by John K. Hutchens, sports)1940's - Suddenly Larry stopped, grabbed us by the arm, and said: "You and I saw Cobb in his great years. Remembering him as he was, don't you often get weary watching the humpty dumpties that are drawing pay as big league players today?"

Reds GM, 1935-36, Dodgers GM, 1938-42, (Sporting News, February 15, 1950, pp. 3, column 4)Leonard Gettelson, 1926 - "Ty Cobb's great record is a common theme in baseball. People assume, quite as a matter of course, that this record has never been equaled. They are right. And yet, perhaps few of those fans, who are most ready with their praise, most eagerBaseball Statistician, 20's-70's to crown the Tigers' manager with a laurel wreath, as the one peerless player of all time, could give you more than a fragmentary argument as to why he should be thus honored. Fortunately Ty's supremacy is not a mere opinion. There are many facts which

can be drawn from the records to convince even the most skeptical. The pedestal upon which Cobb towers above all his fellows, past or present, is founded upon the imperishable records of the game. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1926, pp. 453, column 1)1961 - "Ours was a friendship of long standing. He played for me at New Haven(CT), where there was no Sunday baseball in New York and was a stockholder with me at New Haven. Only last summer he was my guest at a Baltimore series in Yankee stadium. His

NY Yankees: Farm system director, 1932-47; GM 1947-60 death is still a real shock although we knew he was failing." NY Mets Pres., 1962-67 "There was no denying that Cobb stood alone as a baseball player, undoubtedly the greatest of all." (By Associated Press, July 18, 1961, pp. 21)

1909 - No man is a better judge of ball players than Hanlon. He has seen them all for the past 30 years, and praise from him is praise indeed. This is what he said of Ty Cobb:

NL man. 1889-1907, exc. 1890 player's L. man. "I don't believe that the ball player ever lived who had anything on Cobb. He is surely in a class by himself. His remarkable hitting ability, his fielding, speed, and nerve make him to my mind the greatest player the game has ever developed.doubt whether Cobb is appreciated as he deserves to be. He is a wonder." (Washington Post, Sept. 23, 1909, pp. 8, "Tigers Pound Walker" by J. Ed Grillo)1950 - "Wagner and Cobb are still regarded as the bet all-around ballplayers America has produced. (Holiday magazine, May, 1950,

Edward Browning 1948 - Edward Browning was a scorecard concessionaire at Sportsman Park, for the St. Louis Browns from1902 and the Cardinals from 1918. He watched them come and go in the Big Time, and usually managed to watch four or five innings of every gameSportsman Park scorecard concessionaire, played at the park. But his favorite, as yellow clippings on the wall of his small shop under the stands at Sportsman's Park indicated, was Ty Cobb. "It will be a long time," he would conclude his dissertation on Cobb, Browns (1902-1948), Cardinals (1918-1948) "It will be a long time," he would conclude his dissertation on Cobb, "before I see another man like that." (Sporting News, June 30, 1948, pp. 37, column 1)

1942 - "All you have to do is look at the records."Browns Bus. manager, 1923-31, AL ump, 1920 (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"Henry W. Morrow 1953 - "Of all the ball players he ever met, Morrow held Ty Cobb in the greatest admiration. "He was by far the greatest player of all time," Henry said. "He was so far ahead there was not even a runner-up." When Cobb broke into the majors, he used a

Edgar Vincent (EV) Durling, LA Times columnist, 1915-57

Henry McLemore, United Press Correspondent, 1920's-40's

Robert Eugne Ray, Los Angels Times, 1924-41

MacLean Kennedy, Baseball Historian

J.A. Robert Quinn, Browns VP & Bus.Man., 1917-23

Ban Johnson, (AL Pres.,'01-27), Cinc. spwr., 1887-93Earnest S. Barnard, AL President 1927 - 1931

Edson S. Brewster, telegrapher, 1890-1938)

John K. Hutchens, NY Herald Tribune book reviewer, 1948-63

Larry McPhail, Yankees owner, 1945-47

George Weiss, New Haven, CT BB club, 1919-1929

Ned Hanlon, ML OF 1880-92,

Joe McCarthy, Manager, Cubs ('26-30), Yankees ('31-46), Red Sox ('48-50)

Bill Friel, AL 2B, 3B, OF, 1901-03

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Served Louisville Slugger, 1912-46 44-ounce hat, but with advancing years he gradually reduced the weight, until he was using a 38-ounce stick when he retired. (Sporting News, January 21, 1953, pp. 17, column 1, necrology)Charles Conlon, 1937 - "While on the subject of those heroes, Matty was the best pitcher, Wagner the best infielder, Cobb the outfield marvel. Ruth was a grand guy, always obliging. But strictly a specialist in the home run. Not a Cobb all around. Chase was theNY professional baseball photographer, 1904-41 greatest first basemen. Too bad about Hal. But when he had it, he HAD it. (Sporting News, May 27, 1937, pp. 4, column 6)Ernie Harwell 1994 - "Baseball's greatest player --Tyrus Raymond Cobb --died today in his native Georgia." Spoken over PA system in Detroit by Ernie Harwell, the night Ty died, July 17, 1961. "On that long-ago summer night, I pronounced Ty Cobb the greatest of them

Sports Announcer, 1948-91, Detroit 1960-91 all. No one has come along since to make me change my mind, although several of his important records have been broken since his death. . . . Not only did we school boys and our fathers consider the Georgia Peach the greatest ballplayer of all--greaterthan even Babe Ruth--he was one of our state's most famous native sons. (Ty Cobb by Richard Bak,1994, pp. x1, xii)

Harold Seymour 1928 - "Dear Mr. Lane, Now I wish to speak to some of the 2-game a year fans who know more than John McGraw. Those of you who are yelling about Rogers Hornsby and Babe Ruth as being the greatest batsmen and players of all time. Did you ever see RuthHistorian, wrote 3 volume set place a pretty bunt and beat it out, steal bases and slide all over the field, and did you ever see Hornsby slide? When Hornsby is coaching on a baseline he stands there, never says a word, nor moves, dead on his feet, in the field he's the same. Now

the other side of it, who of you ever saw Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach, the greatest ball player who ever swung a bat? Always scrapping, fighting, taking chances. Cobb uses more energy on the coaching line than Hornsby does in the game. Ty plays baseball, Hornsby and Ruth are all for long hitting. Anybody big enough can hit 'em a mile but none but Ty can bat like he did and still does after 20 years. Who can run like him? Slide like him? Fight like him? Cobb can't lose. It isn't inhim. He would have made good in any business. So when you look for a model of playing greatness, boys, pick the greatest example of red blooded American athlete in the greatest game,the Immortal Tyrus Raymond Cobb, Georgia Peach. signed: Harold Seymour (Baseball Magazine, January, 1928, pp. 380, "Our Letter Box, fan letters to the editor, pp. 379-383)

1990 - "I read about 'role models' now. I guess if I had one it was Ty Cobb. I used to read everything in the New York Sun on him, and I saw him play. I just wrote a review of a book on him.. Now it's shown that he was a driven man, a psycho.A great ballplayer, of course, maybe the greatest of them all. Maybe -- it's hard to say. Ruth would certainly be in there. Ruth wasn't a specialist. He hit for average as well as for distance. And of course he was a star pitcher as well, but I don'tthink anyone ever hit a home run as he did. He was hitting when home runs were very unusual. He hit more home runs than the whole team, and way ahead of the league. But Cobb was the type of player who had this tremendous aggressive spirit, and he was

not only fast but a daring and intrepid baserunner, constantly had the other team on the defense. He was an expert hitter, held his hands apart or slid the upper hand down, hit the ball, bunted -- he was great at upsetting a team, crossing them up,pulling the unexpected, using all kinds of psychological tricks. Pete Rose was a top-flight hitter, but to compare Pete Rose with Ty Cobb is ludicrous." (The National Pastime, by SABR, 1990, #10, pp. 68, column 1)

1920 - "Miller Huggins, boss of the Yanks and a smart baseball man, was discussing Ruth with the writer(Harry Salsinger) a few days ago. "There isn't any doubt that Ruth is the greatest drawing card of all time," said Huggins. "He pulls them in. He Yankees manager, 1918-29 makes the turnstiles click. Cobb, admittedly the greatest player of the game, never was a drawing card to compare with Ruth. Have you figured out why? You know the American sport-loving public likes the fellow who carries the wallop. It is so in golf,NL 2B, 1904-16 in boxing, and in various other sports. It would naturally be that way in baseball. The fellow who can pound the ball is always the fellow that will win the hearts of the bleachers. He gets their Cardinals manager, 1913-17 affections. Cobb, brilliant as he is, appeals to only a portion of baseball followers. Cobb is the idol of the students of baseball, but all those interested in the game are not students; most of them miss the fine points, the inner dope. Cobb cannot

be fully appreciated unless you are a student of baseball. If you have made a close study of the game, Cobb is a marvel to you and there is no one near him. There is but one Cobb. But Ruth appeals to everybody. No matter how much of a novice atbaseball a man may be, he will appreciate Ruth, for Ruth busts that ball and as I remarked they like the fellow who busts them. So, while Cobb appealed to only a few, comparatively, who could fully understand and appreciate his finesse, Ruth appeals toeverybody. They all flock to see him." (The Sporting News, August 12, 1920, pp. 3, column 5) (Above conversation occurred between Huggins & Detroit sp. ed. Harry Salsinger when Yankees visited Detroit in Aug.,'20 for series with Tigers.)1929 - "It took him nearly two seconds to name his outfield--Ty Cobb. Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. Who could hope to compete with a set of outfielders like that?" He asked. "Cobb, of course, has first call as the greatest all round man in the trio."The greatest player of all time? 'Wagner or Cobb', take your choice. Still I'm inclined to consider a good infielder more important to a team than a good outfielder." said Huggins. (Washington Post, Feb. 5, 1929, pp. 20, "Cobb, Speaker, Ruth Best Outfield", by William J. Dunn)1929 - Barrow selected his 5 Greatest Ever Players. 1. Wagner, 2. Cobb, 3. Lajoie, 4. Ruth, 5. Speaker (Sporting News, Feb. 28, 1929, pp. 4, column 6) Confirmed order in his autobiography (My Fifty Years In Baseball by Ed Barrow, 1951, pp. 33)

Detroit manager, 1903-04, Red Sox manager, 1918-20 1951 - "Hans Wagner is the greatest ballplayer of all time. The Flying Dutchman stands alone. Babe Ruth was the game's greatest personality, and its greatest home run hitter. Ty Cobb was the greatest of the hitters and the only man I ever saw who Yankees GM & Business manager, October,1920-4 could unnerve a whole ball club single-handed, though I have always had a tremendous admiration for Larry Lajoie and consider him only a step behind Cobb as the greatest batsman of them all. But there is no question that Wagner was the greatest

all-around ballplayer who ever lived. (My Fifty Years in Baseball by Edward Grant Barrow with James M. Kahn, 1951, pp. 33)

1951 - "When I saw Cobb at the gathering of old-timers for the seventy-fifth anniversary party of the National League, he was a reserved and poised man of sixty-five, somewhat mellowed by the years. But the vision of him running wild on the bases,harassing the pitchers, taunting the catchers, and announcing boldly he was going to steal second on the next pitch, fighting, clawing, and generally throwing the whole other side into confusion, can never be erased from the minds of those who saw himthrough the many years of his greatness. He was the man of a half century. I doubt that baseball will ever see his like again." (My Fifty Years in Baseball by Edward Grant Barrow with James M. Kahn, 1951, pp. 194)1939 - "Pennock said it was foolish to say that the Yankees of 1938 or 1937 were tops. The best club, he emphasized, was New York of 1927, for which he pitched. .Bill Dickey, Pennock said, is the greatest catcher of all time. Walter Johnson and Lefty

AL P, 1912-34 Grove were, in his book, the best pitchers. The greatest natural hitter was Joe Jackson, he believes, but as the greatest hitter for results, he chooses Ty Cobb. Ruth, he added, was No. 2 in his list of natural hitters. Cobb, said Herb, made himselfRed Sox coach, 1936-39, Phillies GM, 1943-48 a wonder, with his confidence, audacity, speed, aggressiveness and determination." (Sporting News, June 8, 1939, pp. 6, column 3)

1945 - "The greatest hitters in the past three decades--and by that reference, is not meant the most spectacular, like Ruth, but the most consistent, like Ty Cobb, Paul Waner, Joe Sewell, Whitey Witt, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial--were allmen who took a short stride. . . It was almost impossible to fool Sewell. He leveled his bat with the skill of a machine gunner and popped the pitches to left and right, depending on where the ball was thrown.

He struck out only 3 or 4 times a season. (Sporting News, March 15, 1945, pp. 2, column 4)1939 - "Considers Ty Cobb greatest player he ever saw. Has deep regard for memory of both McGraw and Huggins." (Sporting News, September 28, 1939, pp. 7, column 3, Daguerreotypes)

NL SS, 1909-22, Phillies man., 1923-27, Yankees coach, 1927-45

1977 - "There are three of them it's awfully hard to judge between: Williams, Jackson, and Cobb. I'd say that Cobb was the greatest all-around player I ever saw, and the smartest. He studied everything. He'd get to know how you were trying to pitchAL P, 1913-30, Yankees coach, 1929, Yankees manager, 1930 him, and he'd shift his feet accordingly. If he knew you were watching his feet, he'd wait until the very last second before he did it. And if you did manage to fool him with a pitch, then he was quick enough up there to bunt at you and beat it out.

(Shawkey, continued), (The Man in the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 170-171)see above lines, 251-253

AL P, 1915-33, NL P, 1924-291929 - One of the finest tributes to Cobb's genius came from a ball player, a star himself, Everett Scott: "He is the only man in baseball who ever gave me a thrill. In retiring from the game I'll carry one picture with me always, Cobb tearing down the

Babe Ruth's teammates who support Ty as the Greatest Player Ever. BR = Babe RuthMiller Huggins(BR manager,1920-29)

Ed Barrow(B. Ruth manager, 1918-19,Y GM,'21-34)

Herb Pennock (BR teammate,'15-19,23-33)

Art Fletcher (BR teammate,'27-34)

Bob Shawkey (BR teammate, '20-27,29-30)

Carl Mays (BR teammate, 1915-23)

Everett Scott (BR teammate, '14-17, 22-25)

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AL SS, 1914-26 base line. If I live to be 100 I'll never see a more fascinating picture than he made. He was a cyclone, a tornado, a typhoon all rolled into one." (Jan.19,1929 - Joe Williams Baseball Reader by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 17)1942 - "Yes, Ty Cobb was a character, as well as probably the greatest ball player that ever lived," Scott said. (Sporting News, October 29, 1942, pp. 6, column 4)1961 - "Even if a player didn't like Ty Cobb, he had to admit the Georgia Peach was great, says Stan Coveleski, who was an American League pitcher('16-28) during Ty's prime. I personally liked Cobb," said the 72-year-old Coveleski. "A lot of the

AL P, 1916-28 players didn't, however. But no one could say he wasn't great. You had to see him to believe one man could be that good. "In the outfield he was terrific. And he got on base so much that he drove the pitchers and catchers crazy trying to catch him.

He was fast, really fast. But the best thing about his ability to steal bases was his slide." (Sporting News, Sept. 13, 1961, pp. 15, column 4 & 5)

1934 - "The most flashy ballplayer I ever was, or ever hope to see, was Ty Cobb. Ty was certainly endowed with amazing mechanical abilities. He was fast as chain lightening , had an uncanny knack of making a quick start, was a good batter and aAL catcher, 1915, 1917-34 natural base-runner. Mechanically, Cobb would have been a great player, one of the leading dozen of his day. But Cobb's rise to greatness was due to headwork. He was always a keen student of baseball. He was a past master of player psychology. He wasWhite Sox coach, 1935-45, Cleveland coach, 1948-50 resourceful, audacious and tricky. He became one of the smartest players who ever lived. And it was his baseball smartness, coupled with speed of foot and other mechanical gifts, that made him the most sensational player in the history of the game." Browns manager, 1947 Ty Cobb was, undoubtedly, the smartest batter who ever lived. Ty was a left-hander, and like most left-handers, hit hardest to right field. Ty, nevertheless, generally hit toward left field. That was because he played the percentages. He could beat

out an infield hit to shortstop. An infield grounder to second base would catch him at first." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1934, pp. 400, 426, "The Mental Side of Baseball, interview with Muddy Ruel, pp. 399-400, 426)1983 - "Ty Cobb. He was a great ballplayer," said Sewell. "He was just my idol. He was the greatest baseball player I've seen in the major leagues from the 1920s to the present day. Yes, Ty Cobb is the greatest ballplayer I've seen yet. I've played

AL SS, 1920-33, Yankee coach, 1933-35, with Babe Ruth and roomed with Lou Gehrig, seen Tris Speaker, George Sisler, and a lot of those great players…DiMaggio, Willie Mays, but Ty Cobb could do more things, and do more things to beat ya. . . . "Overall, Ty Cobb could do so many things to beatCleveland scout, 1952-62, Mets scout, 1963 ya. He was fast, a great outfielder, great hitter, and he was highly intelligent. Don't forget that." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)

1961 - "But Ty and I later reviewed it often and became great friends in late years. I respected him. He was a tough baby on the field. Don't think that he couldn't play the game better than any other man." Baker said without qualification Cobb was

AL 3B, 1908-22, except 1915, 1920 the outstanding player of all time, even putting him ahead of Babe Ruth for complete ability. . . He was hot-headed in a game and possibly he was misunderstood," added Baker. "I don't think Ty was a mean man, just that he was reckless on the bases andcame into you like a ton of bricks. .I just never saw a man demand as much attention by the other team. There was Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio and now Mantle. All great players but they didn't get the attention Cobb got from the other teams.(Baker, continued) (Baltimore News-Post, July 18, 1961, by John F. Steadman)1942 - "He wasn't the slugger that Babe Ruth was, but he could do everything else." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the

AL SS, 1910-33 greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Cleveland coach, 1928-33, Cleveland manager, 1941 1944 - "I guess I was lucky," interjected Roger Peckinpaugh. "I don't know how many times I tagged Ty out at second base, yet he never so much as spiked me. On his slide to second, he'd usually throw his feet out toward center field, and try to grab

Cleveland VP & GM 1942-46 the base with his hand. I'll never forget the feeling, though--just knowing that guy was taking that big lead off first and would be coming at me any second." (Sporting News, April 13, 1944, pp. 17, column 4, Inside Pitches column by Galleyproof Gus)1977 - "Cobb was the greatest of all, in my book. In addition to everything else, he was a smart ballplayer. He never had one spot where he stood in the batters box. He stood in different places for different pitchers, according to what they had and

how they pitched him. I never saw another hitter do that. They have one spot and that's it. I'll tell you, they never threw at Cobb very much. If they did, he'd step out and warn them. "Don't do that again," he'd say. And if they did, he would drag a bunt down to first, and if the pitcher covered, Ty would knock him for a loop. So they seldom threw at him. He was a tough monkey, that guy. A real tough monkey. He played a slashing game out there. You could be behind ten runs, and he'd still comeinto second base and bat you around." (The Man in the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 219)1942 - "He had everything, believe me." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?" 1931 - "I give Wagner first place, he says. "He could do everything and is the greatest I've ever seen. Cobb gets second place with me. Why name more? They stand alone." "But I want five selections, Mr. Burke," I said. "Well, that's a tough

(NL pl. 1898-99, 1901-05), (Det. coach, 1914-17) assignment. When you get through with Wagner and Cobb, you run into trouble. (Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan (The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)

(Browns manager, 1918-20), (Red Sox coach, 1921-23), (Yankee coach, 1931-33)

1942 - "He had the finest coordination I ever saw in a player. Because of his mental and mechanical ability, and his marvelous application of the two, he could do everything exceptionally well." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey)AL 3B, 1908-24 Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "His dash, color, aggressiveness, hitting, and speed on the bases were beautiful to watch." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers.

AL OF, 1908-24 It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "The greatest ball player was Ty Cobb--though none of us was crazy about him when he played. However, you had to admire him for his ability. Once he got on the bases, he had the pitchers up in the air until he got off. There didn't seem to be

AL OF, 1910-17, 19-21, Braves coach, 1931-35 anything that he couldn't do." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1945 - "Cobb, of course, was the greatest of them all," Lewis went on. "I used to like to play against Detroit just so I could watch Ty. He could do everything and he never cared who was pitching."(Baseball Magazine, May, 1945, pp. 388, column 3, "Duffy Lewis Recalls--by Ed Rumill)

Ty critics like to sneer that Ty's own teammates either openly hated him or disliked him intensely. While that was true with a few of them, many liked him. All knew that they needed him to win. He who laughs last, laughs best. The following all ended up calling Ty the best that ever lived. Let this give the lie to Ty's critics. Many more liked him than not, even if some of them had to evolve over time. Ty's Detroit teammates Support.

1912 - "Cobb is a dashing player who always takes chances, and exerts himself to the utmost. He plays well within the rules of the game. . . . But I know that he never intentionally injured a player at any time. . . . It is hard to estimate what Cobb'sDetroit manager, 1907-20, Giants coach,'21-25 worth is to the Detroit team. He is its mainstay in batting and base running, and one of its strongest features in defensive work. His wonderful record on the diamond has made him a popular idol throughout the circuits, and I have no doubt that he has

acted as a drawing card in luring many thousands of spectators every season to the games in which he participated. He is a player whom everybody likes to see on the field, for he always does his best. The bleachers are crowded with fans who come to see

him play, expecting something startling, something unusual, and Cobb seldom disappoints them. I believe he was in large measure responsible for the wonderful success of the Detroit team in winning three pennants in succession. . . . In my long career on the diamond, both as player and manager, I have come in contact with most of the leading stars of the game, past and present, and I can say without prejudice, and I believe no one will accuse me of partiality, that I claim for Cobb the distinction ofbeing the greatest player baseball has ever known." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 15-17, How the Greatest Player in the History of the Game Looks to His Own Manager, by Hugh Jennings)

continue coming down for several years and still have the edge on other players. He can continue playing for years and years and still rank on top." (Sporting News, December 4, 1919, pp. 2, column 2, picked up Detroit, Mich., Dec.1-)1920 - "People seem to be fond of comparing George Sisler with Ty Cobb just now. It has become a popular sport, almost a fad. He is, I am informed, a very likable young fellow and his temperament is of the type which never antagonizes or makes

Stan Coveleski (BR teammate,1928)

Lefty O'Doul (BR teammate,1920, '22)Muddy Ruel, (BR teammate, 1920)

Joe Sewell (BR teammate, '31-34)

Frank Baker (BR teammate, 1921-22)

Roger Peckinpaugh (BR teammate,1920)

George Mogridge (BR teammate, 1920), AL P, 1911-25, NL P 1926-27

Jimmy Burke (BR teammate, 1931-33)

Larry Gardner (BR teammate, 1915-17)

Amos Strunk ( BR teammate, 1918-19)

Duffy Lewis (BR teammate, 1914-17, '20)

Hughie Jennings, ML SS,1B, 1891-1902

1919 - Still Greatest at That - "Of course, you also realize that in spite of this perceptible slowing up Cobb is still the greatest player in the game today; he is that by long and far. The beauty about him is that he went so high that he can

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enemies. Such a disposition is an admirable one in the business world or in social intercourse. But it has its drawbacks on the diamond. Baseball is far from a parlor sport and while it is lacking, or should be lacing in the blood and bruises which toooften characterize football, it is, nevertheless, a pretty strenuous sport. the domineering, aggressive type of player who runs rough shod over everything between him and his goal is the type which will carry furthest on the diamond. Cobb isdistinctly of that type. He is restless and ambitious and aggressive. He is fair, but he wants all the law allows him. Any advantage which comes his way he will utilize to the full. It is his temperament quite as much as his extraordinary talentswhich has carried him at a tremendous pace through fifteen years of strenuous work. Sisler is entirely different. He is quiet, almost backward in his way. He never seems to court the limelight as Cobb loves to do. He evidently hasn't the knack of

pushing himself forward. He depends entirely upon his marvelous ability and strict application to business. A very worthy ideal, but unless he changes somewhat, or uncovers talents to outshine those of Cobb, if such a thing be possible, I doubt if hewill ever be Cobb's equal as a personality on the diamond. After all, it is color quite as much as anything else which attracts the public to a player. Cobb has a lot of vivid color. Sisler has little. Cobb has that about him which makes him a greatdrawing card. People admire Sisler and appreciate his record, but they are hardly thrilled by his exploits as Cobb used to sway the audience. In short, Cobb outclasses Sisler in his direct appeal to the public. . . .Personally I am inclined to believethat he is good as Cobb in natural ability as a hitter. And he seems to be making the best use of his natural ability on the bases. Sisler is just as fast as Cobb in his prime, and he is certainly not lacking in intelligence. But I doubt if he willever be Cobb's equal as a base runner. Cobb has developed a slide into the bag which no modern player can equal. The only men I ever saw in my experience who could approach it were Joe Kelly and Wild Bill Dahlen. Cobb's base running is not altogether amatter of speed or knack or even brains, though he uses all three. His slide easily puts him is a class by himself. It is more than a fall away slide, although it is generally called that. He throws himself away from the baseman and around him,catching the bag with his toe or his hand. This is a stunt for a contortionist. It has caused endless arguments in the stand when Cobb has seemed to be out at second or third while the umpire insisted on calling him safe. Most of the time, at least,he was safe. Other players would have been out, but not Cobb. He had eluded the baseman's groping hand and wriggled back to the bag like an eel. It is certainly a masterpiece, that slippery, baffling slide of Ty's. Sisler has a good slide and is a

finished base runner in every respect, but when you compare him with Cobb, you compare him with a master who has had no equal as a base runner, at least in recent years. Of course, it is impossible to speak of leading stars without mentioning Babe Ruth. Ruth deserves all the notice he has been getting. He is the king of sluggers. And the public likes sluggers. A slugging team like the Yankees will always be a drawing card. In the long run, however, it isn't slugging so much as other things which winpennants and it isn't slugging which sticks in the public memory. . . . Slugging will always appeal to the crowd because it is so obvious. If a batter knocks the ball over the fence you can see it go. That is Ruth's favorite stunt. Of course, the man

has uncommon batting ability, but after all, it is the beef that does it. Let a brainy player, however, like Eddie Foster engineer a hit and run play that would win the game equally well, and the fine details of that play would be lost on the crowd.Baseball ,at least baseball popularity, is a fine example of the old adage, "Seeing is believing." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1921, pp. 468, interview with Hugh Jennings before he had resigned with the Detroit Tigers, in late 1920.1921 - "They can laud Babe Ruth to the skies", he said, "but there will never be another Ty Cobb. He is the greatest man who ever played baseball, and I believe that today he is just as valuable to a team as Ruth. He may not clout them as far, but he clouts them oftener and is still the quickest thinker in baseball." (Sporting News, December 8, 1921, pp. 3, column 3)1925 - "In Cobb we have the most temperamental and also the greatest of all ball players . . .Cobb was a law unto himself and by being permitted to work our all his own plays and plans unhampered by any managerial restrictions that others players wereunder, he developed himself into the most remarkable ball player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Dec 31, 1925, pg. A11)1926 - "Ty Cobb is unquestionably the greatest player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Feb 3, 1926, pg. B3)1915 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest player in baseball," Bill Donovan has been quoted as saying. "He is in a class by himself. I have seen all the stars in my time, but there's nobody in Cob's class when it comes to hitting, fielding, and base running. He

NL P ( 1898-02), AL P ('03-12, 15-16, 18) is the quickest thinker in the game and is a wonder at figuring out plays before they are made. When Cobb hits the ball he sees at a glance just how far he can run around the bases. He times his arrival at a certain bag to the fraction of a second. He NL man. 1921, AL man. '15-17, Det. c '18, Player's L. ump. 03, 06 seldom hits at bad balls and his confidence is remarkable." (Washington Post, Feb. 26, 1915, pp. 8, " 'Griff' " May Drop Men Before Training Trip" by Stanley T. Milliken)

1942 - "He had baseball intuition. He was a hard, clean ball player. Sure, he was tough, but you had to be in those days."AL SS, (1910, 12); NL SS,1913-15; White Sox manager, 1950 (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"NL coach, 1932-46, AL coach, 1947-48, 50

1919 - "Ty Cobb is undoubtedly the greatest player in the world, but he has been with Detroit for many years since that club won its last pennant." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1919, pp. 209, "Examples of a One Man Team, by Ralph T. Works, pp. 209-210)AL P, 1909-12, NL P, 1912-13

1937 - "Cobb and I have since become the best of friends, and I regard him as the greatest all-round player that ever lived. The greatest batter of 'em all was Joe Jackson; the greatest fielder, Tris Speaker, but Cobb could do so many things neitherAL 3B (1912-21), Cleveland. manager (1938-40) of them could do, that you have to rate him top," insists Ol' Os. (Sporting News, November 18, 1937, pp. 3, column )

1942 - "You know what he could do. I don't have to tell you."

AL P, 1906-14, Detroit coach, 1920 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1982- "I got along fine with Cobb. I'll tell you, to me he was the greatest all-around player who ever lived. He did everything--run, hit, field. . . Imagine hitting .367 lifetime! . . . If Cobb was playing today with that artificial grass, they'd never get him out. As a manager, Cobb was all right. . . See that green chair and TV over there? I watch games all the time." (Cobb Would Have Caught It, by Richard Bak, 1991, pp. 147-148. Interview with Richard Bak, July, 1982)1942 - "He had the finest competitive spirit of any player I ever saw or heard about."

NL 2B, 1912-21, Tigers 2B, 22-23 (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1937 - He spent many years with the detroit tigers as first string catcher and regards Ty Cob as the greatest player of all time. (Los Angeles Times, May 26, 1937, pp. A13, "Johnny Bassler Likely to Make Good as New Boss of Seatte Club After Succeeding

AL catcher, 1913-14, '21-27 Fiery Spencer Abbott", by Braven Dyer)

1975 - "Try not to get out of a game without a hit." That's one of the things he tried to impress upon me: Never give up. No matter what the score is, no matter what the situation. Always try harder and harder to get that base hit. That's what he Detroit 2B, (1924-42), Det. coach,('42), Det. GM & VP, (1951-59) preached, and that's what he practiced. Every time at bat for him was a crusade, and that's why he's off in a circle by himself." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real, by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 42)

2004 - I wrote Mrs. Josephine Gehringer, Charlie's widow, to ask her who her late husband had considered the best ballplayer ever. and she wrote me back this very nice reply. "Dear Bill - In Charlie's opinion, he said Ty Cobb was the best all around

player. He was manager of the Detroit Tigers at one time and took a liking to him and game him hitting instructions. He always said he played in the best era, 30 & 40 with players hitting 300 or better. He played against Ted Williams, Ruth, Gehrig andLefty Grove who were great, but Cobb was more superior. Mrs G.1942 - "He loved to win." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

AL SS, 1908-23, AL manager, 1923, 27-31, 33 1961 - "Personally, he was hard to get along with. We didn't get along too well, but I've got to give it to him: I just can't envision anybody in baseball ever being as great. He had no weakness, unless you consider his throwing in the later years.. . . .He was terrific. His best game? He was sensational in every game." (New York Times, July 17, 1961)1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

"Wild Bill" Donovan, (Ty's teammate, '05-12, 18)

Red Corriden, (Ty's teammate, 1912)

Ralph Works, (Ty's teammate,'09-11)

Oscar Vitt, (Ty's teammate, '12-18, 21)

Jack Coombs, (Ty's coach, 1920)

Ed Ainsmith, (Ty's teammate,1919-21)John Bogart, Detroit P, 1920

George Cutshaw, (Ty's teammate, 1922-23)

Johhny Bassler, (Ty's teammate, '21-26)

Charley Gehringer, (Ty's teammate, 1924-26)

Donie Bush, (Ty's teammate, '08-21)

George Moriarty, (AL 3B, 1906-17)

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AL ump (1917-41, except for Detroit manager,1927-28) That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)1949 - "He was, of course, supreme." (Sporting News, April 9, 1949, pp. 14, column 2, "In One Lesson, Neun Explains Stealing is Not Only Objective", by Joe Williams, of the New York World -Telegram)

Yankee coach (1944-46), Yankee manager (1946), Reds manager (1947-48)

NL 1B (1930-31), Reds manager (1947-481931 - "When an infielder doesn't give the runner a piece of the bag to get into, he deserves to be spiked. Ty Cob taught me that. Many people thought that Ty was always going out of his way to spike players. I played with him and knew him well.

AL 1B, 1914-29 Ty just demanded his rights and when his rivals wouldn't give them to him he fought for them, and how! And speaking of Cob, there was the greatest ballplayer of all time. He could do everything well and what a fighter he was. He was greatlymisunderstood, however. Burns says the greatest pitcher the game has produced was Walter Johnson. There was a real man as well as a pitcher. (Los Angeles Times, May 24, 1931, pp. F4, "Burns Makes Hit As Mission Pilot, by Bob Ray)1939 - "Unquestionably, the greatest ball player who ever lived - by far. And he would have been a great banker, an outstanding industrialist, a famous general, or a potent figure in any field he chose. No other man I've ever known had Ty Cobb's

(Cinc. coach, '32), (Detroit announcer, '33-50) frenzy for excellence, his self-discipline of his tremendous application. I call him the best friend I ever had in baseball." (Washington Post, June 12,1939, pp. 19, "This Morning With Shirley Povich") 1947 - "Cobb never hit more than 12 home runs in any single season, but he was the greatest ball player who ever stepped on a field." (Sporting News, Apr. 30, 1947, pp. 8, column 1, "Too Much Brawn, Not Enough Brain, Heilmann Answer to Low Bat Marks")1982 - "but I got attached to the playing of Ty Cobb. And I don't know, but he just stood for my hero. I was just crazy about Ty Cobb, I was just crazy about that man. I looked up to that fella. I still got his picture in my den here. It's a funny

Det. P, 1923-27, Yankees P, 1929-32, Browns P, 1933-34 thing. The opposition hated Cobb. I mean, he was a hustler and he'd spike you to get that base. A lot of the players on that Detroit club didn't like him because he was tough. Harry Heilmann didn't think much of him, and neither did Ken Holloway or George Dauss. But me and Cobb always got along great. Always did. I thought a lot of him and he thought a lot of me. Cobb didn't hit home runs hardly at all. Doubles now and then, but mostly singles. He aimed for the pitcher's box all the time.He's the hustlingest player of all time. There's never been another since him, though Pete Rose is close to him. I can't complain about Cobb one bit. He was real nice to me. As a manager, Ty did the best he could. Cobb knew his job, which was

hitting, but I remember he didn't know that much about pitching." ( Cobb Would Have Caught It, by Richard Bak, 1991, Interview with Richard Bak, September, 1982, pp. 152-156)1970 - But, As Cole says, he got along better with Cobb than most. He discounts the stories about Cobb's being penurious, mean and selfish. "Cobb wasn't inherently mean or really stingy. He was just fanatical about winning. When he won, nothing was

AL P, 1921-1925, 27 too good for us. There was steak for everybody. When we lost, he wouldn't even give you conversation. . ."He could also have been a home run hitter. He was big and strong enough. But he actually enjoyed outsmarting rather than over-powering opponents.He was virtually impossible to get out with a runner on first if the first baseman was holding the runner. He could hit it through that little extra hole almost every time. I'll bet he hit .500 in those situations. . . .And a lot of people think he did it all on brains and guts. But he had great speed. He was once timed -- in a baseball uniform at 9.9 in a 100 yard sprint. . . . When I broke in, he and Harry Heilmann were having a helluva race for the batting title, and suddenly Harry went into amonth-long slump. "Ty had Harry off in the corner of the park everyday for hours before each game trying to figure out ways to break him out of that slump. Well, Ty was a tremendous batting instructor, and he pulled Harry out of it." That was the yearHeilmann hit .394, Cobb .389, and Heilmann took the batting title.1932-33 - "Cobb," he says, "was a natural coach. He took an interest in other players who were willing to listen to him, and was always dropping hints on how they stood at bat, their swing and the way they gripped the handle of their bats.He was a keen

AL OF ('23-36), NL OF ('37-39) observer and understood more of the true science of batting than any other player. No doubt he helped me from time to time, and that is important. But that is as far as I would care to go with any coach. The best he can do is to help. What a playerdoes is his own affair. He stands or falls on his own efforts. Cobb was the best teacher of hitting that I have ever known, and others agree with me in that opinion. But I can not believe that Cobb or anyone else could ever teach a mediocre hitter howto be a great hitter." (Baseball Magazine, 1932-33, pp. 545)1964 - Heinie Manush, a teammate of Cobb's, picked Ty, too. ((Sport, August, 1964, pp. 87, by Joe Reichler, Living Hall of Famers Pick The Greatest Centerfielder Ever, pp. 15-16, 87-88)1969 - "I'd take Cobb over Ruth," declared Heinie Manush. "Why? Because although Ruth could beat you with one swish of his bat, Cobb could beat you several ways. He might only single, but it didn't take him long to come all the way around."(Manush, continued), (Baseball Digest, Nov., 1969, pp. 20-24)1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

Detroit catcher, 1914-16 of all time. Why?"Detroit manager 1936-42, Det. coach, 1933-38 1961 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cleveland coach, 1943-44 Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had

Red Sox coach , 1945-48, 53-60 chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that."(Baker, continued), (Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 14, column 4)1931 - Dan Howley, manager of the Cincinnati Reds and former leader of the St. Louis Browns and 1926 pennant-winning Toronto Leafs in the International League is another Cobb admirer. "Ty first without a doubt," he said. "No one

Browns' manager, 1927-29 ever approached him. I'll give Wagner second and that's all I'll name. I think Al Simmons is the best ball player in the game right now. I might name Al, but what about Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth and Bill Terry amongPhillies catcher, 1913 the present-day players, and Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker among the older fellows? I can't include them all in your list, so I'll pick only Cobb and Wagner."

(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, -- The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)1929 - "And, as for playing ability," Haney went on, "any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, Fred finished up, "he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't have

AL 3B,2B, 1922-27, NL 3B, 1927,29 co-operated with anybody." (Sporting News, April, 1929, pp. 3, column 2-6, "Ty Cobb, A Failure as Manager? 'No,' Says Fred Haney, Who Should Know, pp. 3 )

Browns manager, 1939-41 1964 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb was the greatest ballplayer of them all. What he possessed, and to a superlative degree, was determination. I was a rookie with the 1922 Detroit team for which Cobb was player and manager. He had always been my idol; now I Pirates manager, 1953-55 had a chance to observe him first-hand. Sitting on the bench, I would pull my cap down over my face and use one of the eyelets as a telescope, narrowing my vision so that I saw Cobb and Cobb alone. What a sight he was as he prepared to bat! The muscles Braves manager, 1956-59 of his jaw tensed; his bright blue eyes began to blaze; his forehead furrowed into an intense frown. He was working himself into a fury--a fierce determination to dominate the pitcher, to hit the ball. By the time he stepped into the batter's box, you

could almost see sparks in the air. He dared them all; and one way or another, he hit them all. He drove infielders crazy. He tried to excel at everything he did. Cobb was determined to be the best of them all, and he was. Most of the records that heset have never been broken and probably never will be. Many a down-and-out old ball player or ballplayer's widow lived for years on his anonymous generosity. (June, 1964)1964 - Yep, I played during the years when Cobb was in his prime, and I was a shortstop. But I never had any trouble with Cobb and those spikes of his. Got it in the glove and threw it down to the base. That's all. Went over to Detroit with him as a

Wash. manager ('21), Det. coach ('25-26, 29) coach for a few years after I got through playing with Washington. Some say as he was a dirty ballplayer, but I say he was a good hard ballplayer. There are some players who didn't like him, but you know he was a ballplayer's ballplayer. He hustled out(Ty's teammate,1925-26) there. I think he was as fast as anybody, from home to home. I mean, all the way around. Good strong arm. Baserunner…oh, boy. He'd steal on those pitchers. 'Course I played with Honus Wagner, too. He was a great ballplayer. Awkward, but he had

everything. Good legs, big hands. Cobb was a different type. Cobb was a harder ballplayer than Wagner. I think Cobb was the best I ever saw, really. "Course Ruth was another type. He was a great pitcher. I hit against him, and he was a great

Johnny Neun, (Ty's teammate, 1925-26)

George Henry Burns, (Ty's teammate 1914-17)

Harry Heilmann, (Ty's teammate, '16-26), AL OF, 1914-29

Eddie Wells, (Ty's teammate, 1923-26)

Bert Cole, (Ty's teammate, 1921-25)

Heinie Manush, (Ty's teammate, 1923-26)

Del Baker, (Ty's teammate,1914-16)

Dan Howley, (Ty's coach,1919, '21-22)

Fred Haney, (Ty's teammate,1922-25)

George McBride, AL 3B ('08-20), NL 3B ('05-06)

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see below, lines 1092-1099.AL catcher, 1906-15Phil. A's coach, 1925-28Ty's Athletics teammates for Ty.

1932 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblyAL catcher (1925-38) could help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is theDetroit Manager, (1934-38), A's coach (1950), Detroit VP (1961-62) tip-off on how he registered with me." (Literary Digest, Jan. 1932, In answer to question, "Who was your baseball hero?" (Also appeared in Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, by Frank Graham)Yankee scout (1955), Detroit scout (1960) 1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

player of all time? Why?"1928 - "People have wondered if Ty Cobb's presence in the outfield didn't help me with my batting last year. Ty is a great hitter and he understands batting. Besides, he is always ready to give advice. I'll say for Ty that he could give anybody a few

Ty's teammate,1927-28 hints that would be worth while. I didn't change my batting style to any extent last season, although Ty did persuade me to alter my stance in the batter's box against some left handed pitchers. This suggestion of his proved helpful. (Baseball

Magazine, Feb., 1928, pp. 437)1942 - "I never expect to see another player like him." (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "Many folks have asked me if Ty Cobb helped me in 1927 and 1928, when he was with us. The answer is definitely, "Yes." Ty had the championship attitude, if anyone ever had. He gave me many valuable pointers. He was an inspiration." (Sporting

News, Nov. 5, 1942, pp. 8, column 6)1944 - "Ty Cobb helped me when he came to the Athletics years ago and I was just a kid," Simmons said. "He taught me to crouch a little and bend over the plate, with my arms away from my body. In that position I learned to follow the ball from theGuide stance would hurt my power. Connie Mack must have felt that way, too, because he let me alone. So, although Tyrus Raymond Cobb made me over above the waist, I didn't change below it. And I'm very glad I didn't." (Baseball Magazine, Sept., 1944)1953 - "I owe a lot to Ty Cobb, too. I learned a lot from him when we were roommates the last two years he played for Mr. Mack." (Sporting News, August 5, 1953, pp. 5, column 2)1942 - "He had the baseball sense to grasp any situation." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player surveySporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?")

(Ty's teammate, 1928) 1961 - "He hated to lose. He wanted to lead the league in hitting every year. He loved to hit and he loved to slide. The skin of his legs and hips was always raw." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

(Ty's teammate, 1927-28) ball player of all time? Why?"see above lines 175-200.see above lines 165-174.1931 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player I ever saw. Wagner is next. That's all I want to pick. Go see Connie Mack and find out what he says."(Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managers

AL coach ('12-17, 26-32, exc.15), AL manager, '19-23) and coaches, Who they thought were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)NL 88-11,exc.01-02

1931 - On his seventieth birthday (Dec. 22, 1931), named Cobb as the greatest. "Ty Cobb was the greatest player of all, and there never was a pitcher to compare to Christy Mathewson. Of those two I am certain. You can argue about the rest."NL catcher (1886-96) (New York Times, December 24, 1931, pp. 21, "Connie Mack, Entering his 70th Year, Impressed By Evenness Of Competition In Big Leagues", Picked up story by Associated Press, from Philadelphia, Dec. 23)Philadelphia Athletics' manager, 1901-50 1938 - Ty Cobb was by far the greatest player of all time," the venerable Connie told me. "He was in a class by himself. In saying this, it is not because Ty was an American League player. I have seen many great players in the National League--Wagner,

Mathewson and Lajoie, who later came over to our league, also those earlier players, Buck Ewing, King Kelly, Cap Anson and many others. In our league, we have had Speaker, Eddie Collins, Ruth, Gehrig, Al Simmons,Cochrane and Gehringer, all of them stars,

yet Cobb stood far ahead of them all. Ruth, of course, was a wonderful showman, but so was Cobb. Cobb was somewhat earlier and played his greatest ball before the big stands were built in New York, Chicago and Detroit, However, he gave the crowd as much of an electric thrill by his daring and skillful base-running as Ruth did with a drive over the fence. In fact, Cobb was a show every minute he was on the field. Besides being the game's greatest hitter, there never was any telling what he would do-bunt, hit behind the runner or try for distance. He was a firebrand, but he could bring out the crowds, just as Ruth did later on. Those spikings never were intentional; they never left any feeling on my part and I am glad to say this remarkable player wound up his great career as a member of my team." (Sporting News, Jan. 27, 1938, pp. 3, column 5, by Fred Lieb)1941 - "As for the greatest player, the Philadelphia Athletics manager picks Ty Cobb". . . (Los Angeles Times, Mar 25, 1941, pg. A9)1942 - "The greatest player I ever saw from 1884 to the present day was Ty Cobb." (Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1942, pg. 17, "Connie's Only Regret He Hasn't Done Better, by Braven Dyer)1942 - "He surpassed all the players that I remember." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Undated - I once read that Connie Mack had once said, "Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb were the two greatest ballplayers who ever lived." That is one of the most intellectually dishonest and DELIBERATELY misleading statements ever written. It implied that Connie, after a lifetime of pristine support of Ty as the Greatest Player, had muddied the waters and elevated Babe to a par with Ty in his opinion. Nothing could have been further from the truth. This little piece by Dan Daniel, NY spwr. comes the closest to being where such a prejudiced, partisan belief could have come from. Writes Dan Daniel, NY spwr. in Baseball Magazine in the '40's, (Connie Mack still will tell you that the greatest all around player was Ty Cobb. "Split the laurels," pleads

1947 - Connie Mac unhesitatingly and unqualifiedly picks Ty Cobb as the greatest baseballer of all time..."Ty Cobb outclassed them all," Mr. Mack opined. "After Cobb, you had to go a long ways down before you reach the rest. Cobb was everything. He batted367 for his 24 years in the majors. He fielded sensationally. And, above all, he had a fanatical will to win that carried his team right along with him. His achievements were all the more remarkable when you realize that everybody was gunning for him. His fiery disposition and his ruthlessness in running the bases -- his motto was, "The base paths belong to me!" -- made him enemies galore. But he took on baseball singlehandedly and won. Incidentally, Ty told me in later years that if he had it to do all over again the he would make friends instead of enemies in the game. But I'll bet that with the first crack of the bat he'd forget all those nice intentions and be the old Ty Cobb all over again, fighting everybody for his hits, stolen bases and runs." (Los Angeles Times, Jan 27, 1947, pg. 11)

pitcher. Great ballplayer. (The National Pastime, Winter, 1985, pp. 44) (a rediscovered interview, taped in 1964 for "The Glory of Their Times" by Lawrence Stanley Ritter, 1966)Ira Thomas, (Ty's teammate, 1908)

Mickey Cochrane, (Ty's teammate,1927-28)

Al Simmons, AL OF, 1924-41, 43-44

Bing Miller, AL OF, 1921-36, AL coach, 1937-53

Max Bishop, AL 2B, 1924-35

Eddie Collins, (Ty's teammate,1927-28)Tris Speaker, (AL OF,07-28)(Clev.man.19-26) (Ty's teammate,28)Kid Gleason, NL pitcher (1888-11,exc.,'01-02)

Connie Mack, (Ty's manager,1927-28)

the Old Man of Shibe Park. "Ruth, the most popular, Ty the marvel at the plate, on the bases." Alas, Connie had NOT muddied the waters! But it was obvious how such a deceptively worded statement was

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1950 - I am not taking issue with the sports writers, neither do I dispute their reasons for selecting Babe Ruth over Ty Cobb as the greatest baseball player in the last fifty years. But for my money, Cobb was the greatest who ever lived and we maynever again see his equal. Ruth was a great gate attraction, no doubt the most outstanding crowd pleaser, but based on a player's value to his team alone, the honor must go to Ty Cobb. Cobb was the greatest competitor I ever saw, a fiery and fearless player. Winning and winning alone was all Cobb ever thought of and never gave his own personal safety much concern. Never have I seen a player so intent on winning that he would bring harm to himself if it was necessary. Certainly, Ruth hit the homeruns and glamorized the game, but Cobb's record in winning the batting championship nine straight years, missing a year and then coming back to win it the next three, is one of the outstanding feats of baseball. This was the controversy at the close of

the first half of the twentieth century. Everyone knows what I think of Ty Cobb, for I talk about him every chance I get. I don't think anyone has ever surpassed him as an all-round player, either in fielding, hitting or base running. I'd like to put Tris Speaker up in that top rank too. Tris was everywhere in the outfield; he could grab a ball up against the fence and net a ball off his shoes directly behind second base". (My 66 Years In the big Leagues by Connie Mack, 1950, pp. 40)You wouldn't know it from looking at the record books. He's only listed as an A's coach through '26. But Connie asked him to stay on unofficially to help with his pitchers and Ira did, off the record.

AL catcher, 1906-15 1926 - "If he had an aggressive temperament like Ty Cobb, there'd be no question. Bur how many Cobbs have there been? Just one, to the best of my recollection. And don't overlook one thing. It was Cobb's driving, untiring persistence that got him Phil. A's coach, 1925-28 where he is. Without that spirit he would have been just a good ball player. With it, he became baseball's greatest star. Ty Cobb, in his prime, simply wouldn't acknowledge defeat. He wouldn't even admit discouragement. No handicaps could even delay

him on his course. He would struggle to overcome defects in his own playing style. He would fight players on his own club, players on opposing clubs and the crowd that rode him unmercifully, and thrive while he was doing all this. There are not toomany players who can stand the gaff as Cobb stood it. That's why he rose above all obstacles to a place where he was really in a class by himself." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1926)1942 - "He was not only a great ball player, but he disrupted the other team's morale by the chances he took and usually got away with. Once he got on the bases, I would rather give him credit for a run than let him get around the bases and cause

anywhere from four to five runs damage before he was through."(Thomas, continued), (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Team Owners support Ty.see above, line 10651910 - "The greatest ball player of all time? That question would have been a poser three years ago, and may appear so to a good many people now, for there probably are more differences of opinion about the relative merits of exponents of the greatest

ML 1B (1882-94) game in the world than about anything else one can think of. But in my opinion no fair-minded follower of baseball, who has seen the great players in action and who has studied their strong and weak points, can come to any conclusion other than the one I have arrived at--that Ty Cobb, right fielder of the Detroit American League Club, is the real answer to the above query. I take it that the answer should mean the greatest all-around ability, the one most valuable to his team, and not the one mostproficient in any single position. There might be ground for argument if I were to say I selected Cobb because he was better as a right fielder than Wagner was as a shortstop or Lajoie or Evers as a second baseman. I pick the Detroit man because he is, in my judgment, the most expert man of his profession and is able to respond better than any other player to any demand made on him. I pick him because he plays ball with his whole anatomy--his head, his arms, his hands, his legs, his feet--and because he plays ball all the time for all that is in him. Why is Cobb a great ball player? The first and most important reason is that he loves the game. I never have seen a man who had his heart more centered in a sport than Cobb has when he is playing.There never was a really good ball player who didn't think more of baseball than he did of his salary or the applause of the fans. Cobb, being a bright young man, naturally wants to be paid, and is paid what he is worth in his profession. Furthermore,

he probably has no objection to commendation from the people watching him; many ball players deny they care anything for the cheers of the crowd, and few take any stock in these denials. But I believe Cobb would continue to play ball if he werecharged something for the privilege, and if the only spectator were the groundskeeper. In considering Cobb's baseball excellence it is only natural to think first of his batting, for batting is the part of the sport that appeals most to the big majority.After his record of last season I believe the statement that he is the best hitter of to-day is indisputable. Averages tell a good deal about a man's ability to hit, and the mark of .377 hung up by the Detroit man in 1909, cannot be overlooked. It would be folly for me to discuss the relative pitching strength of the National and American Leagues, for I have not seen any National League pitching aside from that in our world's series of 1906 and the city series. But I will say that any man who can hit at that figure against present-day pitching in either big league is nothing short of a marvel. When Cobb first joined the Detroit Club word went around that he, like most of the rest of his craft, had his weaknesses at bat. It was noised about thata left-hander could "make him look foolish." And it was true that Cobb was not as strong at first against the southpaws as he was against the right-handers. But ask the left-handers about it now. They will tell you that he is anything but a toy intheir hands at present. The fact of the matter is that Cobb has overcome his dislike for that style of pitching, and is as effective against it now as against the other kind. Cobb is not an in and outer, although he, like all of us, has his slumps.With him they never last long, and are so infrequent that none of his opponents ever is counting on one of them. Cobb is dangerous at all times, and a pitcher working against him knows he must pitch his hardest, and never let up until the Georgian eitherhas been retired or has added another hit to his long list. Cobb hits when hits are needed and when they are not needed. He is as strong in a pinch as any one, besides being able to hit the ball further away than the majority of "clean-up" hitters.Moreover, he hits in all directions, some of his extra base drives going down the left foul line, some of them down the right, some of them to right center, some of them to center, some to left center; in fact, in all directions. In addition to his

ability to tire out the fielders with his long smashes Cobb is one of the most expert of bunters, and of course, his speed makes him doubly effective in this particular accomplishment. With a runner or two on the bases, and Ty at bat, he has the entire opposing infield at sea. No faint-hearted third baseman could live through a series against the Detroit Club. Cobb may "look"the bunter all over when a bunt is expected to advance a baserunner, and may draw the third baseman in, confident that the ballwill be laid down, and then make him call on all his dodging ability to get out of the way of a terrific smash right at him. I don't blame infielders for being "crossed" by Cobb. He has the head to fool them and the ability to carry out his schemes.Although the left handers have been convinced that they are no more effective against him than their right-handed brothers, the latter still have some ideas about his "weak spot," and these ideas are almost as many as are the pitchers. But everylittle while a pitcher will serve up one of the things Cobb "can't hit," only to see it soaring over the fence or toward it. Another common fallacy, when Cobb was first served in the American League, was that he was a "fool" on the bases; that he "ranwild." There has been a reversal of this verdict, too. Undoubtedly, Cobb has pulled off some base running "crimes," but it was not because of lack of baseball sense, but rather because he loved to run and just couldn't hold himself in. If any one hadkept track of Cobb's successes and failures in his "crazy" base running stunts I am sure he would have found that the former far outnumbered the latter. And I also am sure that his "crazy" running has won a lot of ball games for Detroit. There may beball players who can run a hundred yards as fast as the Georgian, but there is none who can go from the plate to first base as fast, and none who can equal his speed between any two bases or around the whole circuit. . . . Now, I want to say something

about this spiking business. Don't ever let any one tell you that Cobb purposely spikes basemen. He is too good a sportsman for anything like that, and that he is a sportsman was proved by his letter on the spike question to President Johnson of theAmerican League. he was willing to have the spikes dulled, although he knew that such action would slow him up in his play. Cobb slides to a base with the intention of getting there, and getting there safely. He doesn't take any more space on the baselines than is coming to him. To be sure, he never refuses to slide simply because the basemen is in his way, but he would not be a successful baserunner if he slacked up to avoid a possible collision with an awkward fielder or on some unusual play.

Besides, Cobb is taking even more chances in his daring slides than is the man waiting to tag him. One of the most important assets of the great ball player is possessed by Cobb to a wonderful degree. This is nerve. He is not afraid of any pitching,and it seems to delight him to be in a pinch, with his team's fate hanging in the balance. Cobb is a better ball player today than he was two years ago. He will be a better ball player this year than he was last. This is because he is a student. He iswilling to learn something new about baseball every day of his life, and he is willing to be shown his faults and told about his mistakes. Of these latter he makes far less now than he did when he first broke into fast company. He has had good teachers and good examples, and he has not failed to take advantage of his opportunities to cram baseball knowledge into his head. This is a day of great ball players, and there are many who could be named in the same breath with Cobb without disgracing thelatter. Two of the best of the present day are Evers of the Chicago Cubs and Wagner of the Pittsburgh club." (New York Times, April 17, 1910)1919 - "Personally I think Ty Cobb of the Detroit team is the greatest player of all time. This is no disparagement to others. Ty is in a class by himself. He is a wonderful batter and would have been able to hit any kind of pitching in the old days

Ira Thomas (Ty's coach, 1927-28)

Connie MACK, NL catcher (1886-96), Phil Athletics' manager (1901-50)Charles A. Comiskey, White Sox owner(1901-31)

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as well. He is one of the speediest men in the game. He is as good a fielder as one would want, but above all he is a thinker when in the game. His mind works every minute and he carries the team along with him." (Commy by Gustav Axelson, 1919)? Charles Comiskey told Joe Vila of the New York Sun: "Baseball has changed a lot since I was a player. In my day it wasn't necessary to specialize in all departments of baseball, but Cobb could do everything. He could hook, slide to either side, field with the best in the game, had a great throwing arm, could hit all kinds of pitching either by slugging or bunting and was the greatest and smartest base runner that ever wore spikes. . . . I have won pennants and world championships, but thegreatest and only disappointment of my life in baseball was that Cobb didn't play for me. I often pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him, but in vain. I would have paid anything to get him." (History of Baseball, by Joe Reichler & Allison

Danzig, 1959, pp. 163)1930 - "The greatest player I ever saw? he queried, leaning forward to emphasize the question. "that's easy," he replied, and then without hesitation, he snapped. "That's easy! My choice is Ty Cobb!" . . . but when we get down the fine points ofthis game and weigh the various angles, there is none to equal Cobb. I'm serious when I say that. . . . Cobb could do everything. . . . I may be wearing myself out," he said, "But when I start talking about that fellow I can't quit. . . Cobb beat us. Scoring from second base on an outfield fly or an infield grounder. Cobb frequently upset and rattled our team as he helped beat my boys out of three pennants. . .and while I watched his play from my seat in the grandstand I could see that he threw fearinto the opposition. That's what made him a great ball player." "What's up now? I asked him. "I've won pennants and World's Series," he replied, "but do you know what I consider the greatest and only disappointment of my career? Well, I'll tell you - it was really the fact Ty Cobb did not play for Commy." I could readily understand Comiskey's slant. He had not tried to conquer the word. He simply regretted that this greatest ball player of all time was not a member of his Chicago White Sox."Cobb," he mumbled softly. "He should have been with my White Sox. I had Callahan, Jones, Griffith, Donohue, Isbell, Davis, McFarland, Walsh, Altrock, Jackson, Cicotte, Schalk, Weaver and other stars. But I wanted Cobb. I watched him star for theTigers - a boy who played the game as I did back in the late 70's. Then I pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him. I wanted Ty to finish his career with my ball club. I would have paid - well, I'd have paid anything, but they wouldn't sell."

"Ty Cobb - what a ball player!" sighed Comiskey, and then as I noted him slump back in his chair, I, too, regretted that Ty had not started and finished his sparkling career with the White Sox that this grand old man of baseball did not get his cherishedthrill." (Sporting News, December 25, 1930, pp. 7)1918 - "But I'll have to admit that Ty Cobb is the smartest ball player I ever saw for scoring runs and doing damage to another team. He's always working for the Tigers, is Ty, and he's a wonder. He's the most spectacular player I ever saw,

(ML pitcher,1891-14) (Senators manager,1901-20) and his record? Why where are you going to match that record? . . . Yes, Jackson has the best natural batting eye I ever saw, but he isn't Cob's equal, of course, take him all round." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1918, pp. 181, The Greatest Ball Club That Ever Lived, by Clark Griffith, pp. 141, 180, 181)1921 - "The two greatest base runners that I ever saw were Bill Lange and Ty Cobb. Bill Lange was the best of the old timers, in my opinion, and Ty Cobb is just as far ahead of the field among modern day base runners. I won't attempt to decide which was the greater, but I have already admitted more than once that Ty Cob was the most brilliant ball player I ever knew. He is slowing up now, of course, but in his prime, he was a wonder." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1921)1942 - "Because he was a hitter, a base-runner, a great fielder and indomitable will to win and the aggressiveness that thrilled those who watched him play." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 lettersto former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1933 - The greatest player he ever saw? "I speak merely as a fan, you understand. Cobb was the greatest player I ever saw, and so far as my memory goes, the first player I ever saw. I definitely know he was the first person I ever shook hands with." "What about Ruth? If you had your chance to buy Ruth or Cobb, both at their peak tomorrow, for the Red Sox, which would you take?" "I'm still a fan. I would take Cobb. I like to see Ruth hit the long ones, but nothing has thrilled me more than the

sight of Ty Cobb dashing around the bases, taking chances, outwitting the other side. You could never tell what he was going to do, and it was fine fun trying to figure what he might do next. You don't get that with Ruth." You are not listening to an old timer talk. This is a 30 year old business man, the youngest club owner in the history of baseball. Cobb represents the mauve decades in baseball. Ruth represents the hot cha-cha, and h, ey nonny, nonny, period. I wonder if anybody really knowswhich is better? (Sporting News, March 9, 1933, pp. 6, column 4)1945 - "Cobb? I've always had the greatest respect for him as a player and as a man. I've always considered him the greatest player that ever lived." . . . . . ."But Ty Cobb is the greatest I ever saw at any time--yes, sir, and you can go tell that to Taylor Spink!" (Sporting News, March 29, 1945, pp. 3, column 3)1959 - In his boyhood at Detroit, Yawkey used to idolize and hang around Ty Cobb, Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach. (Sporting News, June 17, 1959, pp. 12, column 2) 1961 - "Greatest all-around ball player of all time." (Washington, DC, Evening Star, July 18, 1961, pp. A21)1961 - "I have lost a long time friend with the death of Ty Cobb. Much of my early interest in baseball was aroused by meeting and knowing Ty at a very early age and there is no doubt in my mind that he was the greatest all around ball players of all of all time." (San Francisco ?, July 18, 1961, compiled from AP and UPI Services)1952 - Walter O. Briggs' great baseball idol was Ty Cobb. "He was the greatest I ever saw and probably the greatest any of us will ever see," he said. "Babe Ruth hit more home runs, but I don't see how he can be ranked above Cobb. Ruth was the greatest

slugger of all time, but not the greatest player." (Sporting News, January 23, 1952, pp. 11, column 2)1952 - "She was following baseball when the Brotherhood operated a team at Broad and Dauphin streets, not far from her girlhood home here. That was in the 1880s, long before there was an American League, before the modern Athletics were even dreamed ofand before she met Tom Shibe. Rival players never were villains to Aunt Ida - just "nice boys" in the wrong uniforms - and Ty Cobb she regarded as the greatest of all time, with Babe Ruth the most magnetic. (Sporting News, May 21, 1952, pp. 30, column 2)

Umpires support Ty.Tom Connolly 1950 - Does Tom Connelly have a "greatest player" for his 57 years in the National and American leagues? Certainly: Tyrus Raymond Cobb. (Sporting News, April 26, 1950, pp. 8, column 4 & 5)AL ump 1901-27, 1953 - Which reminded me of a brilliant cliché. Who was the greatest ball player he had ever seen? The former umpire looked at me as if the question was not only superfluous but stupid. "Why, Ty Cobb, of course." Then by way of amplification. . ."HeAL Director of umpires, 1927-54 could beat you so many ways. He could outhit you, outrun you and outthink you. If you needed the tying or winning run in the last inning and he was up it was even money, he'd get it." (Sporting News, 1953, pp. 12, column 3)

1954 - As one who saw many great players come & go, Connelly unhesitatingly names Ty Cobb as the greatest all-round player he ever saw, remarking, "He could beat you so many ways." And in his opinion, Walter Johnson, the "Big Train" of Washington, was

was the greatest pitcher. (Sporting News, January 20, 1954, pp. 6, column 1 & 2)1926 - Ty Cobb, the greatest player of all time, is through as a big leaguer. . . There never has been and probably never will be another player just like Tyrus Raymond Cobb. He could do everything. Didn't have a single weakness. During my 21 years

Red Sox Dir. minor leagues,1936-41, Clev. Rams GM, years in the majors I have seen Cobb do everything that it is possible for one player to do on the ball field. There is nothing that Cobb hasn't attempted and succeeded in. (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 6, column 3)

Pres. Southern Ass., 1943, Tigers GM & VP, 1946-51 1942 - " Cobb was the brainy, crafty, sensational performer, who starred in the era of close scores when one run was usually the decisive margin. Ruth starred in the era of swat. Power was his greatest asset, although he had all the other attributes of a great ball player." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "If there ever was a greater all-around baseball player than Ty Cobb, I have yet to see him. Babe Ruth had more power, Tris Speaker was a greater fielder, Joe DiMaggio has a better arm, but none possessed the all-around finesse of the Georgia Peach. Cobb did everything well. . . . I have never seen a great hitter who had better control of his bat at all times than Cobb."(Baseball's Best Batters, by Billy Evans, condensed from Esquire Magazine, reprinted for Baseball Digest, August, 1942, pp. 55-61)(Cobb, Ruth, Keeler, Gehrig, Wagner, Hornsby, Speaker, Collins, Sisler, Lajoie, Jackson, DiMaggio, Williams)1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

Clark Griffith, Senators owner,1920-55

Tom Yawkey, Red Sox owner, 1933-76

Walter O. Briggs, Tigers owner, 1935-52

Ida Shibe, Phil. Athletics' owner, 1935-52

Billy Evans, AL ump, 1906-27, Indians GM, 1928-35

George Moriarty, (AL 3B, 1906-17)

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AL ump (1917-41, except for Detroit manager,1927-28) That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366, "Calling Them With George Moriarty, by George Moriarty, pp. 366, 379)1956 - The six-foot, 200-pound arbiter rated Ty Cobb the greatest player he ever had seen. "Babe Ruth was good, too," he conceded, "but Ruth was a different type player from Cobb. Ty would fight you to a standstill in a game, but the Babe took things

more in stride." (Sporting News, Sept. 19, 1956, pp. 46, column 4) 1961 - "All four--Clarence Rowland, Ray Schalk, Urban (Red) Faber and Emmett (Red) Ormsby--learned about The Georgia Peach at first hand. They were contemporaries of Ty in the American League and spent many a day on the field of battle with baseball's immortal star. All four of these Chicago baseball men agreed that Cobb was the greatest player of all time, and all four agreed that none ever matched his flaming drive for victory. But Schalk had more than admiration for Ty. His was a deep affection."I loved the guy," said Schalk. (Sporting News, December 20, 1961, pp. 14, column 3)1962 - "A few years ago, when Ray Schalk was inducted into the Hall of Fame, I had a Talk of more than an hour with Cobb, He was a wonderful fellow to reminisce with. You know, the first time I ever met Ty was when I was a raw recruit at the Quantico Marine Base in Virginia in 1917. I was in the same outfit with his brother, Paul, whom Ty came to visit one day. Paul was a pretty good ball player himself. Paul was an outfielder on the Quantico team and an excellent hitter and I was spitball pitcher.Being a youngster then, I was pop-eyed when I saw the great Ty Cobb. He handled himself modestly enough. I remember that my reaction was that he was a 'good Joe.'" (Sporting News, January 17, 1962, pp. 14, column 4)1961 - "Kid Gleason would butter him up by telling him it was too bad we couldn't get him on our club, and when Ty came to bat, Schalk would butter him up some more," said Rowland. "We kept our bench jockeys subdued, too. Cobb was great enough just

White Sox manager, 1915-18 in his normal stride but, if you needled him, he was almost super-human. He was a guy who could beat you all alone, so it was suicide to stimulate him to even greater efforts. Without a doubt, Cobb was the greatest player of all time. . . active in Pacific Coast League, and Cubs club When I umpired, I never got any squawks from Cobb on balls and strikes. He'd give you a look once in a while and that's all. The only time he ever said anything to me was when I called him out at third base once on a close decision.

'I don't believe you,' and kept right on going." (Sporting News, Dec. 20, 1961, pp. 14, column 3)

1961 - "Ty was in a class by himself," McGowan explained, "He could win a game without swinging a bat, He'd come up swinging five bats, smacking his lips like a tiger and scaring the life out of a pitcher. He'd coax a pass, steal second, third, andhome and beat you, 1 to 0." Ruth, the umpire believes, was the greatest slugger who ever lived. "Even if you take away all his homers and call them singles," he said, "he's still one of the games's all-time greats. Great arm, smart and fast for a bigman. But not as good as Cobb!" (Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 14, column 2, "Cobb Greatest of All, Insists Umpire McGowan")1950 - "There was only one great player in Bill's book and that was Ty Cobb. To Bill, the Georgia Peach represented everything. They became fast friends," (Sporting News, March 15, 1950, pp. 18, column 2)1936 - Ty Cobb was the best ball player that Umpire Brick Owens ever saw. (Los Angeles Times, March 14, 1936, pp. 14, "Bill Henry - Says")1939 - "The greatest player I ever saw was Ty Cobb." (Washington Post, May 2, 1939, pp. 19, "On the Line With Considine", by Dolly Stark) (Regular columnist was on vacation, and guest columnist filled in.)1951 - "He was the greatest ball player of all-time . . . There'll never be another like him."

AL 3B, 1918, 20

Couldn't find their opinions Tim Hurst('00-09), Silk O'Loughlin('02-18),Jack Sheridan('01-14), Bill Dinneen('09-37), George Hildebrand('12-34), Brick Owens('16-37).It would seem logical that the umpires of Ty's time would have supported him as the greatest ever. Some of the most prominent, whom I haven't found quotes for were: Jack Sheridan ('00-14), Tim Hurst ('00-09), Silk O'Loughlin('02-18), Brick Owens('16-37),George Hildebrand('12-34), Bill Dinneen('09-37), Ed Rommel('20-34), Harry Geisal('25-42), Ollie Chil('14-14, exc. 17-18)It is a historical fact that in the debate between Ruth, Cobb & Wagner, the overwhelming cream of the most respected, authoritative & august names in baseball who had actually seen these players came out in favor of Ty. I have spent years searching for their opinions and have found most of them. Sadly, I still haven't found a few. I am still seeking those of Tim Murnane, Cap Anson, Art Fletcher, Herb Pennock, and a few others, namely a host of AL umpires of Ty's time.

Ty as manager.Fred Haney 1929 - "Cobb was the greatest student of the game and psychologist I ever saw," Haney says, "Why, I have seen him sit on the bench, his eyes covered by his cap and call 18 out of 20 pitches a Cleveland hurler threw. I asked him how he did it and his

AL 3B,2B, 1922-27, NL 3B, 1927,29 reply was, 'Well, I've been watching Steve O'Neill catch for quite a good many years now and ought to know what he will call for.' "I figured Cobb as a real manager," Haney continued. "Had he not been he wouldn't have done as well as he did with someBrowns manager, 1939-41 of his teams. You see, while Ty was just a player he always had been the 'darling' of the management and this, of course, had made some of the others jealous. What Cobb wanted, he got. So, when he became manager, there was a certain amount of suspicionPirates manager, 1953-55 toward him. I personally know of many attempts Cobb made to help players out -- veterans who were slipping both professionally and financially, -- but, in each case the player coached by some of the soreheads, would be warned off. On one occasion, CobbBraves manager, 1956-59 offered to invest $3,000. for a player about to be waived out of the league. The player wanted to accept the generous offer, but some other player, among them one who has since come to disrepute, advised him strongly against it, and he took their advice,

only to be sorry later. This talk about his not being for his players was pure bunk, There was nothing he didn't try to do to make everyone happy. As I said, there were those who just wouldn't or couldn't see anything good in Ty. He had his share ofTy's teammate, 1922-25 battles, on and off the diamond, did Ty, but, in all of them, he was a square shooter and a square fighter." (Sporting News, April 25, 1929)

1929 - "And, as for playing ability, any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't have co-operated with anybody."(Baseball Magazine, April, 1929)

1938 - The new pilot of the Browns regards Ty Cobb as the greatest manager under who he has ever served. "There never was anyone like Ty," declard Fred. "He had everything that it takes to make a great player and manager. The only trouble was that Tydidn't sweep far enough when he cleaned house on the team. He left a couple of fellows who poisoned the team against him.""Cobb taught me a lot of things, but strangely enough, base-running wasn't included , although Ty was without an equal at the art. In fact, we didn't even have a steal sign on the club. I wondered about this and asked Ty the reason. "'We've got

too many extra-base hitters on this club to emphasize stealing,' Cobb replied. 'I play the percentages on our hitting, instead of stealing, to get the runners around.'" (Sporting News, Nov. 17, 1938, pp. 4, column 4)1961 - "Ty Cobb was a great manager. He took a bunch of punks and finished third in 1922, second in '23 and third in '24, when he should have been deep in the second division. He was a wonderful fellow to play for --if you hustled and did your bestall the time. He was very demanding, but quick to give you a pat on the back, too. (Sporting News, Nov. 8, 1961, pp. 10, column 3)1975 - "Ty never got the credit he deserved as a manager because he never won a pennant and the critics always think you have to win to be great," he said. "Besides, Cobb never had enough good pitching to be a challenger. I played for him on the Tigers for four years, starting as a rookie in 1922 and what I got was an education in advanced baseball. He knew everything about the game and he got more out of his players than they had to give. …I'm proud to say that I batted .352 as a rookie.. . . And two years later I saw Cobb finish second with a team that any other manager wouldn't have gotten beyond the top of the second division." (Christian Science Monitor, Sept. 19, 1975,

Dick Nallin, AL ump, 1915-32

Red Ormsby, AL ump, 1923-41

Pants Rowland, AL ump, 1923-27

Bill McGowan, AL ump, 1925-54

Bill Guthrie, Ump (NL, 1913, AL 1922, 28-32)Brick Ownens, AL Ump, 1916-37

Dolly Stark, NL Umpire 1928-40, 42, exc. 36Babe Pinelli, NL Umpire 1935-56

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1924 - "The Detroit team, under the able leadership of Ty Cobb, who has proven as good a manager as he was and is, as a player, seems to have the best chance of winning out, as it is not only strong on offense, but has gained greatly in defense through AL Reach Baseball Guide Editor-In-Chief (1901-1926, death) the improvement of the supposedly weak pitching department through the development of Pitchers Stoner, Whitehill, Holloway and Wells. (Sporting News, August 7, 1924, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment)

1982 - "As a manager, Cobb was all right." (Cobb Would Have Caught It, Richard Bak, 1991, pp. 148)1924 - So admired was Ty as a manager by the end of '24, that Christy Mathewson chose him as manager for his All-America team B, for Collier's, Oct. 11, 1924, pp. 45.

Cinc.man.('16-17), Giants' coach('19-20), Reds Pres.('23-25)1923 - "One has to work under Cobb to understand him," said Howley. "As a manager, he was a revelation to me. Cobb has played the outfield all of his life, yet it was uncanny how he could instruct men to play every position on the ball field. There

Tigers coach, 1919, 21-22, Browns manager, 1927-29 isn't the slightest detail of any department of baseball that he isn't master of. . . I have no personal motive for boosting Cobb," continued the New England Irishman. "I no longer work for the Detroit club: in fact, I took the Toronto job against Cobb'sTy's teammate, 1919, 21-22 wishes. But I honestly believe Cobb is the greatest manager in baseball. Give him a little more time with that Detroit team and see what he does with it. He advanced it from seventh to third in two years and next season he will make things exceedingly

interesting for the Yanks." (Sporting News, February 15, 1923, pp. 7, column 2) 1929 - "Ty Cobb and I are supposed to be enemies. That might have been true once; but it's not true now. We've had our share of differences, I'll admit. There were times when I couldn't even see Ty's face through the red haze that sprung up between

Ty's teammate, 1920-26 us. I hated to work for him, and I am frank to say I wouldn't like to work for him now. But working for Ty and recognizing his good points on another ball club are two different things. . . There's a pretty general impression, I think, that Cobb wasnot an able manager. It is true he never won a pennant. But now that I'm no longer with the club, I'll go on record that if Connie Mack had managed the Tigers, with John McGraw for his coach and Joe McCarthy for his bat boy, he wouldn't have done any

better than Ty. . . Cobb was not a failure as a manager. He was not a bad manager. In many ways he was a brilliant manager. He knew more baseball than anybody I ever saw. And chain lightning was no faster than the working of Ty's mind. He was always a fighter and he had a fighting ball club. that's what the public wants. He was as full of tricks as a coyote is full of fleas. they weren't parlor tricks, either. Ty was out to win ball games. . . Ty was a great coach. I doubt if his equal has ever lived. . . he did as well, with the material they gave him, as anybody could have done. So why call him a bad manager?. . . Ty never had a good pitching staff. His outfield was bad(defensively), and his infield was worse. As a fielding combination,

the Tigers were like an old sieve. But how those boys could hit and score runs? Ty coached them and he kept them on their toes. They were about as dangerous a team to stop as the New York Yankees. As for pennants, it makes little difference how many runs you score, as long as the other fellow scores more. But I haven't noticed many pennants waving from that old flag pole at Detroit since they gave Ty the gate. He drove the boys up as high as second place one year. They haven't roosted in that berth since. So why not give Ty his due? Why saddle him with a failure that was not his, or blame him for something that nobody could help? Ty is entitled to get sore at that kind of criticism. Frankly, I don't blame him." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1930, pp. 493)1931 - "We had some hot discussion on pitching science when Ty Cobb was a manager of the Tigers. It's an open secret, or rather no secret at all, that Ty and I didn't hit it off very well. Not that he cared. The personal dislikes of a great many

Cleveland coach, 1941, Phillies coach, 1943 people weighted very little with Ty. One thing I'll say for him, if you talked back to him, he respected you more than if you merely kept silent and took everything he handed out. Ty was a fighter himself, and he respected other fighters. Ty was very Ty's teammate, 1923-26 keen in sizing up batters' weaknesses. Probably no man ever lived with a better eye or a better judgment to detect little mannerisms, preferences and dislikes in opposing hitters. . . . "but Ty was the smartest batter I ever saw. I don't say he was the

best. There's a difference. But he certainly was the smartest. . . ."Cobb always worked the psychology of batting to the limit. . . . ."Cross up the pitcher was Ty's batting theory, and he certainly knew how to do it. Ty's record is a conspicuous

example of what a player can do by using his head every moment of the time." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 539-541) 1961 - "Reached at a Red Sox tryout camp in Burlington,Vt., Woodall, all choked up over Ty's passing, said: "He was a good manager. He knew his baseball inside out. He anticipated plays far ahead of anyone else. He understood us and realized our

Red Sox coach, 1942-48 limitations. It was his contention that once we joined the Tigers we were supposed to be big league players and I believe he was justified in using that as a standard." (New York Journal-American, July 20, 1961, pp. 24, Brainy Cobb Praised by the Tigers He Managed by Barney Kremenko )1962 - "Ty Was Terrific Teacher---'You Learned Plenty' : Herman played for Ty Cobb at Detroit and always has maintained that The Georgia Peach was a good manager. "He was a stickler for details, and never overlooked a thing. You paid attention andyou learned plenty," is the way Babe put it. (Sporting News, Feb.7, 1962, pp. 7, column 1, by Braven Dyer in Los Angeles Times)1926 - "I have made a persistent study of the pitchers. In this work I have had the advantage of Ty Cobb's coaching. He can detect the batter's weakness quicker than anyone I ever saw. But after all, there is a limit to what any one can teach

AL 1B, 1921-32 you. If you are to be much of a success, you must work out your own system". (Baseball Magazine, February, 1926)William O. McGeehan 1924 - "When Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb was made manager of the Detroit Tigers there was considerable skepticism expressed by the experts as to what he could do with a ball club, says W. O. McGeehan in the New York Herald. The Georgian always was a fiery NY spwr., 1915-33 person and was the center of many a tempest on the diamond. It was pointed out that no man who could not manage himself would make much of a success as a team manager. But nobody can go behind the results. The Tigers under the leadership of Mr. Tyrus

Raymond Cobb are fighting the Yankees for first place. The team has become a wonderful fighting unit. Ostensibly at least the inner workings are quite harmonious, and the Tigers take all of their truculence out on the teams that they meet. All of the misgivings as to Cobb as a manager seem to be without reason. As a matter of fact, Cobb actually has started to look forward to the time when he will be able to quit active playing and devote all of his tremendous energy to managing his team. The timewas when the notion of Cobb as anything but an active player would have seemed impossible. But today the prospect of Cobb becoming a bench manager does not sound so strange. In handling a team Cobb has lost little of that aggressive spirit that alwaysmarked him as a player, On the contrary, he not only has retained that, but seems to have imbued his players with the same sort of spirit. It is only fair that I shall mention the fact that Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb is a decided success as a manager,because I was of the skeptics." (Sporting News, August 14, 1924, Scribbled by Scribes by W. O. McGeehan)

Essential reading is the following article from July 5, 1931, published by the Philadelphia Public Ledger newspaper. It concerns the all-important subject of who is the Greatest Ballplayer by 12 impartial, knowledgeable "jurists". It has depth, context and was conducted at the very moment when Babe Ruth's fame hovered at its pinnacle of glory. I consider this article, along with the Sporting News' April 2, 1942 survey, as the "smoking gun" of the debate. It's decisive and unalterable. By contrast, the 1950 sportswriters poll, was conducted largely by men who had never seen Cobb play. Or Ruth for that matter. Have fun my brothers. Bill Burgess(P.S. This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, August 1, 1931, under Personal Glimpses, Picking an All-Time Emperor of the Diamond, and it was also referred to in The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser,1975, pp. 433)

Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan (The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)A majority of a jury of twelve good men and true, chosen for their experience and standing in the Nation's great game, hereby pronounces Tyrus Raymond Cobb as Baseball's Greatest Player." Seven out of the twelve give first place to the "Georgia Peach," whose line drives, streaks of speed and fall-away slides thrilled the Nation's fans for nearly a quarter of a century. "There never will be another Ty," they sigh in unison. Three of the twelve designate Hans Wagner, "Flying Dutchman" of the oldPittsburgh Pirates, as the greatest, and four name him runner-up to Cobb, bringing Hans in a good second in total points. Babe Ruth, famous home-run pounder of the present day, runs third by virtue of two first choices and being placed in the "Big Five"

Francis C. Richter, Phil. spwr. (1876-1926)

John Bogart, Tigers P, 1920, Ty's teammate, 1920Christy Mathewson (NL pitcher,'00-16)

Dan Howley, NL player, 1913

Rip Collins, AL P, 1920-27, 29-31

Earl Whitehall, AL P 1923-38, NL P 1939

Larry Woodall, Detroit catcher, 1920-29

Babe Herman, NL OF, 1926-37, 45

Lu Blue, Detroit 1B, 1921-27

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by several other jurors. Nap Lajoie and Eddie Collins finish close behind Ruth, with Willie Keeler, Al Simmons and Tris Speaker following in the order named. The jury is composed of John McGraw, Wilbert Robinson, Walter Johnson, Connie Mack,Kid Gleason, Bill McKechnie, Joe McCarthy, Jim Burke, Gabby Street, Dan Howley, Bucky Harris and Burt Shotton, all well known to followers of baseball. I asked each man the question, "Whom do you consider the greatest baseball player of all time?"waiting for his opinion without telling him the views of any other juryman. Five points were given for first place, four for second, three for third, two for fourth and one for fifth. John McGraw, manager of the Giants, the first man approached for his

tremendous hands, and in addition to his great playing ability, had a wonderful disposition and was easy to handle. I'll place Cobb second and Keeler third. Al Simmons is my next pick, as I consider him the greatest ball player of the present day. LikeWagner he is a right-handed hitter of power and can field his position splendidly and throw fast and accurately. Simmons is no dumb ball player, either. My own first baseman, Bill terry, is included in my selection. He is really a great ball player and the best first baseman I have ever seen."

1922. Oddly enough, neither club retained him for long after his success. Tired of being shunted by the Cardinals to Rochester and then recalled, McKechnie signed a four-year contract with Boston and is developing a team there. "I don't see how a NationalLeaguer could pick any one but old Honus Wagner as the best that ever lived," said McKechnie as we sat in his hotel room in Philadelphia. "I played in the infield with him for six or seven years and will pay him the splendid tribute of saying I neversaw him make a mental error. He made "boots," of course. Every ball player makes fielding errors. But Honus always threw to the right base; he always did the correct thing at the proper moments. As to physical ability, he was a marvelous fielder, thehardest-hitting shortstop in history and a splendid baserunner. Wagner was in his prime from about 1904 to 1912. "Cobb gets second place. Really, I think those two stand by themselves for this century, at least. Speaker didn't have the natural speed

of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. He, like Speaker, wasn't as fast as Cobb. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on fly balls that are too close to the infield for outfielders to get. I have been astonished at Hornsby's inability to overcome this weakness during his many years in the majors. It is hard to choose between Hornsby and Ruth, but I'll give it to Hornsby."

Athletics leader said. "But picking the greatest player that ever lived is easy, I think. I pick Ty Cobb. I guess every one will do the same. Cobb was a good fielder, the greatest baserunner in the game's history, the fastest thinker and the mostconsistent hitter. How can you name any one else? Eddie Collins, the keystone of my great infield of the old Athletics, is my second choice. Eddie was a marvelous ball player. I can't say too much for him. I'll name Lajoie third. Of the present-dayplayers I pick Al Simmons first, and he is my fourth man of all time. I hate to leave off Mickey Cochrane, but I must name Babe Ruth, so he goes fifth. If there was a sixth place in your selections, Cochrane would get it. When I picked my all-time teamlast year, I named Buck Ewing as the best catcher I ever saw. I put Buck ahead of Mickey because of the latter's comparatively brief service in the majors. But you can say for me, and this is the first time I've said it for publication, that I nowconsider Cochrane the greatest catcher that ever lived. You can't take it away from him."

with whom he played years ago. At least that's what I thought, and so didn't press him for an entire selection when he said: "Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player I ever saw. Hans Wagner is next. That's all I want to pick. Go see Connie Mack and findout what he says."

well, is a deadly thrower and can cover first base and pitch. He is a far better all-round ball player than he is generally credited with being. I'll place Cobb second, then Wagner, Collins and Lajoie in the order named. After you get past Wagner it isvery difficult to make selections, as there have been so many great ball players. You may also say for me that I consider Mickey Cochrane and Gabby Hartnett as the leading catchers of the day."

then named Jackson, Ruth and Collins. He had a hard time deciding between Collins and Speaker, with Eddie winning by a shade.

for years and your views mean something. Mine don't." "All right then. If that's the way you feel about it, go ahead and name Ty Cobb as the best of them all," replied Uncle Robbie. "I didn't see him play much because he was in the other league, butfrom what I did see and from what I've heard from others who do know ball players when they see them, Cobb deserves first place. Put Willie Keeler in there next to Ty. Willie was a great all-round ball player and the best place hitter the game ever knew.And you can't leave out this big fellow, Babe Ruth, when speaking of all-time wonders. He can pitch, play first base, play the outfield and hit home runs. He's a wonder. It's hard on the others to name just a few, because the world has seen many greats.Hans Wagner was one. Back in the old, old days the Phillies had a man who could pitch like a streak and play the infield, too. His name was Charley Ferguson. You can't leave him off. There's Hughey Jennings, too. He was an unbeatable shortstop. As I

said before, it's unfair to name just a few. Think of the many good ones I've never seen! But if I have to name the best five you can put down Cobb, Keeler, Ruth, Wagner and Ferguson for me."

leader. When Joe McCarthy went up to take charge of the Cubs, he took Burke along as coach, and the two have remained together since. He should know his ball players. "I give Wagner first place," he says. "He could do everything and is the greatestI've ever see. Cobb gets second place with me Why name more? They stand alone." "But I want five selections, Mr. Burke," I said. "Well, that's a tough assignment. When you get through with Wagner and Cobb, you run into trouble. Old Nap Lajoie was aswell ball player. We can't leave him off the list. Eddie Collins was another. Put him down for fourth. Now it's getting tougher and tougher. We'll give fifth place to Hornsby, although you may as well name the fifth man yourself, there have been somany good ones."

American League and two in the National and Cobb is my pick, without question," he said. "Cobb had a ninety-horsepower brain, which, in my opinion, was his greatest asset. He always thought a fraction of a second faster than any one else and, therefore,

was always ahead of the game. One day he was on third base when the batter hit a high fly back of shortstop. George McBride, our shortstop at Washington in those days and a very good fielder, caught the ball. As the ball struck his glove Cobb startedfor home. McBride raised his arm to throw. Cobb stopped. McBride, assured that Cobb had given up the idea of trying to score, let his arm drop to his side. Quick as lightning, Cobb was off for home again, scoring the winning run despite McBride'shurried throw. His brain had worked once again and Detroit had won another ball game. Another time we had a second baseman playing third base. Cobb hit safely five times past third base. After the game I asked him about it and he said: "That was easy,

your third baseman was out of position. I know he's a second baseman. Why should I try to hit to right field?' That was Cobb in his prime. Modern fans who saw him only in the closing days of his career can't appreciate him. "I'll give old Honussecond place and Eddie Collins third. They say Jimmy Collins was a great ball player, but I never saw him. Freddy Parent, Boston Red Sox infielder, wasn't a spectacular player, but he's my fourth choice. And I can't leave out Hal Chase. He could doeverything," concluded Street.

ever approached him. I'll give Wagner second and that's all I'll name. I think Al Simmons is the best ball player in the game right now. I might name Al, but what about Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth and Bill Terry amongthe present-day players, and Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker among the older fellows? I can't include them all in your list, so I'll pick only Cobb and Wagner."

John McGraw, manager of the Giants, the first man approached for his views, named Hans Wagner as the greatest. "Wagner could do everything required of a ball player." said McGraw as he sat in the Giants' dugout in the Polo Grounds. "He had

Bill McKechnie, manager of the Braves, strung along with McGraw on Wagner as the greatest of them all. McKechnie, one-time Pirate infielder, piloted Pittsburgh to a pennant in 1925 and won another gonfalon for the St. Louis Cardinals in

While McGraw and McKechnie have been spending their lives in the National League, Connie Mack has been devoting his time to the American. "I haven't had the chance to see many of the great stars of the other league," the Philadelphia

Kid Gleason, former manager of the White Sox and now coach of the Athletics, who has spent a lifetime in baseball, was very brief. Evidently his mind rushed back over the past and he feared to slight some of the great ones

Joe McCarthy, former manager of Louisville and the Chicago Cubs and now pilot of the New York Yanks, selects his own star, Babe Ruth as the best of all time. "Ruth is more than a home-run hitter," says McCarthy. "He can play the

Cobb received another first-place vote from Walter Johnson, former great right-handed pitcher and now manager of the Washington Senators. Johnson was lavish in his praise of the "Georgia Peach." He gave Wagner second place and

Uncle Wilbert Robinson, manager of the Brooklyn Robbins, voiced his opinions under protest. "But, Mr. Robinson," I said, "no one cares whom I'd name as the greatest. The fans want to read your opinions. You've been in this game

Jim Burke, ruddy-faced coach of the Yanks, has been in baseball thirty years. He played in the American and National Leagues and the American Association. He managed the St. Louis Browns, 1917-1920, and has also been a double A

Gabby Street, one-time battery mate of Walter Johnson at Washington and now manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, 1930 champions of the National League, was the fifth man to name Cobb for first honors. "I spent seven years in the

Dan Howley, manager of the Cincinnati Reds and former leader of the St. Louis Browns and 1926 pennant-winning Toronto Leafs in the International League is another Cobb admirer. "Ty first without a doubt," he said. "No one

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famous slugger, and places Cobb second, with Sisler third, Simmons fourth and Speaker fifth. Harris wants it known that his opinions are based on players he has seen in action.

Ruth fifth.

This symposium was an intensely interesting one for me to procure. I wasn't surprised with Cobb winning first honors and Wagner second." I wasn't surprised, either, with Ruth finishing as low as third in an all-star contest:I was surprised, however, at the few votes cast for Speaker, Sisler and Jackson. (copyright by Public Ledger)Summary of the above articles resultsIn July,1931, C. William Duncan conducted survey of Phil. Public LedgerB.Shotten Mack K.Gleason Howley W.Robinson G.StreetCobb Cobb Cobb Cobb Cobb CobbLajoie Collins Wagner Wagner Keeler WagnerC.Klein Lajoie Ruth CollinsWagner Simmons Wagner F.ParentRuth Ruth Ferguson Chase

Cochrane

B.McKechnie J.Burke J.McCarthy B.Harris W.Johnson McGrawWagner Wagner Ruth Ruth Cobb WagnerCobb Cobb Cobb Cobb Wagner CobbSpeaker Lajoie Wagner Sisler Jackson KeelerLajoie Collins Collins Simmons Ruth SimmonsHornsby Hornsby Lajoie Speaker Collins TerryRuth Speaker

1945 Sporting News 1926-27 Yankees 1917-20 White SoxSurvey, Greatest Team Connie Mack,1950 1919 Ed Barrow,1951Ever, 140 votes total Fred Lieb,1977 1919 Ty Cobb, 194186 - Yanks(1927-28) - 61% George Sisler,1956 1917 Eddie Collins, 195019 - White Sox(1917-20) - 13% Wilbert Robinson, 1919 Ward Morehouse,194311 - Athletics(1929-31) - 7% John Kieran 1919-20 Frank Ellerbe,19857 - Athletics(1910-14) - 5% Babe Ruth 1919 Ed Walsh, 19407 - Yanks(1936-42) - 5% Herb Pennock 1917 Pants Rowlands,19593 - Cubs(1906-08) - 2% Glen Wright 1919 Warren Brown, 19461 - Giants(1921-22) Ethan Allen

Buck Jordan 1910-14 AthleticsWally Berger 1914's A's Wambsganss,1985

1929-31 Athletics Buck Leonard B. Shawkey,19771929 Dykes, 1967 Spud Davis T. Speaker,19301929 Riggs Stevenson,1986 Glen Wright1929-31 Rick Ferrell, 1985 Charlie Gehringer late 1930's Yankees1929-31 Mark Koenig, 1985 Whitlow Wyatt Joe McCarthy1929-31 Doc Cramer, 1966 Billy Rogell 1938-42, George Case,19851929-31 Whitlow Wyatt,1985 George Pipgras 1938-40's, Spud Chandler,1985

Walter Johnson vs. AL Batting Average Champions & othersTy Cobb .370 (1907-1914, 36 for 131 = .275), (1915-1926 =.435)Tris Speaker .340George Sisler .334Babe Ruth .324 (2 home runs up to 1920, 10 altogether)

Bucky Harris, who was called the "boy wonder" when he led Washington to two pennants and who now pilots Detroit, is the youngest man on the jury. He gives first place to Babe Ruth, being the second man on the jury so to honor the

Chuck Klein, one of the stars of the present day, breaks into the list of "greats," due to the selection of his manager, Burt Shotton, of the Phillies. Shotton names Cobb first and Lajoie second, with Klein third, Wagner fourth and

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Joe Jackson .270 (1911-13 =.346, 1914-20 =.256)Nap Lajoie .252Harry Heilmann .249Heinie Manush .234Eddie Collins .225Frank Baker .385 (1910-13), (1914-23) = .207Sam Crawford .408 (1907-12)Lou Gehrig .500 (1925-28), 10 for 20, 4 home runs, 1 double)

Nap Lajoie vs. pitchers Honus Wagner vs. pitchersJoe McGinnity, 23 for 45 = .511 Christy Mathewson, .324, 86 games, 327 AB, 106 hits, Clark Griffith, 36 for 88 = .409 Cy Young, .343Cy Young, 78 for 206 = .379 Amos Rusie, .524Eddie Plank, 49 for 136 = .360 George Wiltse, .368Amos Rusie, 9 for 25 = .360 Nap Rucker, .356Rube Waddell, 49 for 140 = .350 Kid Nichols, .352Ed Cicotte, 47 for 138 = .341Jack Combs, 33 for 97 = .340 It was said that Babe Ruth cried when he left the Polo Grounds, Kid Nichols, 19 for 56 = .339 with it's 256' right field foul line. Well, Ty loved it too. Ty's record there:Ed Walsh, 53 for 166 =.319 Year games hits Batting Ave.Joe Wood, 14 for 45 =.311 1913 11 14 0.341Jack Chesbro, 40 for 129 = .310 1914 8 13 0.433Bill Dineen, 63 for 206 = .306 1915 12 19 0.421Walter Johnson, 40 for 137 = .292 1916 12 21 0.421Chief Bender, 37 for 136 = .272 1917 - 19 0.432Babe Ruth, 5 for 27 = .185 1918 - 10 0.303Ernie Shore, 6 for 39 = .154

Ed Cicotte vs. Babe Ruth (11 for 53 = .210, with 7 singles, 4 doubles and no homers, 1915-1920)Warren Spahn vs. Stan Musial (107 for 329 = .322BA & .584SA, 54 BB, 29 SO, 192 Total bases, .416 on-base in 107 games, 1946-63)Spahn vs. Musial included 61 runs, 23 doubles, 6 triples, 17 homers,

Ty Cobb was timed going down to first many times, but was never known to break, 3.2. Mickey Mantle's best was 3.1 from the left side of the plate.

In 1921, Maurice Archdeacon timed 13.4 in circling the bases, while 10 yrs. later, Evar Swanson timed 13.3. in circling the bases. Ty Cobb's best was 13.5.

At a long-distance baseball throwing contest in Oct.,1872, John Hatfield of Mutual club, won the contest with a heave of 133 yrds, 1 foot, 7.7 inches. He was followed by Andy Leonard of Boston club(119 yds. 1 ft. 10 inches), George Wright of Boston club(117 yrds. 1 ft. 1 inch), Bill Boyd of Mutual club(115 yrds. 1 ft. 7 inches), Wes Fisler of Athletics club(112 yrds. 6 inches), Adrian C. Anson of Athletics club(110 yds. 6 inches)

Ned Crane threw a baseball 117 yards(351 feet) in a contest at Worcester, MA in 1879.

At Cincinnati baseball grounds on Sunday, Oct. 9,1910, Sheldon Lajeune of the Evansville baseball Club, threw a baseball 426 feet, 9.5 inches. He had preceded this throw with heaves of 385' 3", 383' 4", both throws against the wind. He then asked if he could throw in the opposite direction. This was granted and he threw 401' 4.5", he then warmed his arm up and then

uncorked a mighty heave of 426' 9.5". Previously he had thrown 399' 10.75" on September 11, 1908 at the Cincinnati grounds.

Joe Jackson threw a baseball 132 yards (396'9") on September 27, 1917, at Fenway Park, Boston, Mass., in a contest, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. It was at a benefit game for Tim Murnane's widow. Duffy Lewis of theRed Sox and Clarence (Tillie) Walker of the Phil. Athletics tied for second with tosses of 384'6".

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Even the Babe had his critics1920 - Upon hearing the news early during 1920 spring training, that the Yankees planned on using Babe Ruth exclusively as an outfielder, Tris dryly commented, "Sorry to hear that about Ruth. If he had continued his pitching career, he

Cleveland manager, 1919-26 might have lasted a long time and become famous." (1920)John McGraw 1930 - When asked for his all-time all-star team, McGraw gladly gave it. He included Wagner, Cobb, Mathewson, Walter Johnson, but said, " I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, rather than as a player."

(Sporting News, Nov. 20, 1930, pp. 7, column 6)NL pl (1891-06), exc. '01-02, (Giants man., '02-32) 1933 - "There, then, is your ideal ball player, made up, I see, of the qualities of exactly nine of the greatest the game has produced--Matty, Evers, Wagner (on two counts), Jennings, Frisch, Kelly, Speaker, Hornsby and Cobb." The Little Napoleon AL man. Balt. 1901-02 tilted back his office chair, indicating his last word had been said on the perfect baseball player--without a single mention of the game's most glamorous personage, Babe Ruth. "What of the Babe?" I inquired, "Doesn't he fit somewhere in the picture?"

"Well," answered McGraw, "you can''t compare his fielding with Speaker's, or his throwing with Kelly's, or his speed with Frisch's, and both Hornsby and Cobb were better, if not as hard, hitters. As a gate attraction he, of course, tops them all and undoubtedly he is, with the lively ball in the game, the hardest hitter of the past decade. "But I do not see how Ruth can offer to the composite ideal anything that is not to be found perfectly supplied by those mentioned, especially when you considerthat the lively ball of his league was fashioned for his special benefit." (Sporting News, December 28, 1933, pp. 7, column 3)1957 - "Two years ago he picked an all-time American League team. He named Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb and Joe Jackson as his outfield. "What about Babe Ruth?" he was asked. "I wouldn't have Ruth on my teams. He struck out too often," said Sam.(Sporting News, February 13, 1957, pp. 18, column 2)

1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint of(BR teammate, 1915-23) drawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why"

1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and his

White Sox coach, (1923-25, '28-30), White Sox manager, ('24) weak arm, there was nothing like him in baseball--on the paths and hitting. (Sporting News, Oct. 24, 1940, pp. 5, column 6)1930 - "With the Yankees doing badly it was time to put down Babe Ruth, and John B. Foster of the Consolidated Press came through with a finely tuned argument; although Ruth was hitting many home runs, other men were also hitting home runs. If other

Editor-in-Chief of the Official Spalding Base Ball Guide(1908-41) people could do it, he wasn't so much. The prosecution rested. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 422)NY Giants business manager & secretary (1912-1919) Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than third

in any ratings by Yankee leaders. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 428)

Perhaps it's because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobbputs something into his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived. (Spalding Baseball Guide).

1939 - Jimmy Powers of the New York Daily News observes: "Scout Dick Kinsella picks an All-Time baseball team and leaves off Babe Ruth, (so did Mickey Welch). According to Kinsella: 'Ruth wouldn't have been able to hit fellows like Mathewson,owned Springfield club, 1903-11 Johnson and McGinnity. They'd have out-smarted him.' (Sporting News, April 13, 1939)

1952 - "Ignored all training rules. No good on long throws. Liked too well to take things easy." (Sporting News, April 23, 1952, pp. 2, column 3)1940 - Who does Jimmy believe was the greatest player in the majors? None other than Hans Wagner-- for John Henry, in his opinion, had no equal. Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and the others included. "Ruth wasn't a topnotch player--he was only a hitter."

Cubs coach, 1917 explained Jimmy. "Cobb was a ball of fire and he could do most everything well, but he couldn't compare with Wagner." And Jimmy doesn't think the great double play combination of Tinker to Evers to Chance could hold a candle to the PhiladelphiaCleveland AA player / manager, 1914 Athletics' trio of Jack Barry, Eddie Collins to Stuffy McInnis." (Sporting News, March 7, 1940, pp. 5, column 2, by Don Basenfelder)

1937 - "Manager Joe McCarthy of the Yankees has dissipated the belief that a team with Babe Ruth could outdraw any club in the world at the gate," declares Wayne K. Otto of the Chicago Herald-Examiner. "The 1937 Yankees, minus Ruth, but with three ofminor league player & manager, 1907-25 the greatest sluggers in the business batting in the three, four and five holes, is on the way to an all-time attendance record. McCarthy concurs in the opinion of most baseball men that Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Dickey are the greatest trio of

sluggers any one team ever possessed. The drawing power of the Yankees has been so great this season that McCarthy expects his club to have played before 2,000,000 fans at home by October in the day the season closes." (Sporting News, Sept. 9, 1937, pp. 4, column 5)

1940 - "Joe McCarthy rates Frankie Frisch along with Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker in a classification he prefers to call "perfect players." By that he means players who could hit, steal bases and field in such fashion as to "beat you single-handed."(Sporting News, March 28, 1940, pp 4, column 3, by Joe Williams, NY World-Telegraph)1950 - "Wagner and Cobb are still regarded as the best all-around ballplayers America has produced. (Holiday Magazine, May, 1950, by Joe McCarthy)Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than thirdin any ratings by Yankee leaders. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 428)1929 - "People have asked me if I didn't consider Babe Ruth the greatest of natural hitters. I certainly do not. There are many times when Babe looks terrible at bat. I've seen him miss a ball by two feet. Nobody ever saw Joe Jackson miss a ball

Wash. Senators manager, '29-32 two feet. Babe has his particular specialty where no one can equal him. He can hit a ball harder than anybody who ever lived. But why go outside that specialty and make claims for him that aren't true?" Cleveland Indians manager, '33-35 (Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)

1974 - "Nowadays home run hitters are considered great if they hit .270. When I was pitching, I used to love to see those guys come up to the plate who swung from the heels. I'd laugh to myself because I knew I had them. When they swing that hard, they're bound to take their eye off the ball. Tickled me pink to see those guys come up there. It's the guys who came up with their bats choked, like Joe Sewell and Charlie Gehringer, who would give you trouble. Foxx didn't choke up; Simmons didn't.But they didn't cut like they do today. Neither did Ruth. The Babe. We called him the Big Monkey, the Big Baboon. Babe didn't care a hell of a lot for me, you know. The Yankees used to come through Baltimore to play exhibition games, and he knew I

was wild and I didn't give a damn whether I hit him or not; didn't make any difference to me. He quit the game one day. I was wild, and I tore a couple buttons off his shirt. He didn't even go to first base. He just said, "I don't want any of that,"and went in and dressed. Babe never had much to say to me after that." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 82-83)

Ferdinand Cole Lane 1923 - "Babe Ruth is unquestionably the greatest drawing card in baseball. The impress of his personality on baseball is the most powerful and dramatic. Whether in success or failure, Babe monopolizes the spot light and he is unquestionably the goldenBaseball Magazine, Editor-in Chief & sp.wr. (1910-38) magnet of the box office. But is he the greatest player? No, not by the length of many homers. His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if

not mediocre. A great pitcher in his day, he is still the greatest of sluggers, but not the greatest of all round players.(Baseball Magazine, June, 1923, pp. 291, column 1, "Who is the Greatest Player in Baseball?" by F.C. Lane, pp. 291-292, 324) Article claims: 1. Sisler 2. Hornsby

Tris Speaker, AL OF, 1907-28)

Sam Crawford, ML OF, 1899-1917

Carl Mays, AL P, 1915-33, NL P, 1924-29

Ed Walsh, AL pitcher, '04-16

John B. Foster, NY sportswriter (1888-1941)

1930's - "Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do

Dick Kinsella, NY Giants scout, 1907-32

Paul Krichell, Browns catcher, '11-12, Yankees' scout, '20-57Jimmy Sheckard, NL OF, 1897-1913

Joe McCarthy, ML manager, 1926-46, 48-50

Walter Johnson, Wash. Senators pitcher ('07-27)

Lefty Grove, AL P, 1925-40

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1924 - "F. C. Lane, writing in Baseball Magazine, nominated Rogers Hornsby as one who might have enjoyed the most fame if he had had the most press-agentry. . .Comparing Ruth and Hornsby, Lane thought Hornsby the better hitter and more versatile fielder."(The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 298)1924 - "John A. Heydler, president of the National League, seconded the nomination of Hornsby ( as better than Ruth). As Heydler pointed out, from 1920 through 1923 Hornsby had a higher batting average, more hits, more doubles, more triples. But

NL ump,1898,

NL secr./ treasurer,1909-18, NL chairman, 1934-56 Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 298)Francis C. Richter 1922 - "The recent additional disciplining of Babe Ruth by President Johnson for vile language to Umpire Dinneen, following other suspensions for offenses since his return to the game, has had a temporary quieting effect upon this inflated and AL Reach Baseball Guide Editor-In-Chief (1901-1926, death) ill-disciplined young man, but of the permanence of his reform there must be grave doubt, as his entire career shows that he has not the fundamental character to build real greatness in his chosen profession upon. Ruth has been spoiled by his popularityPhiladelphia sports writer (1876-1926) with the unthinking part of the public for excellence in one specialty: by the injudicious coddling and exploitation by his club; and by the incessant praise of the metropolitan writers--all of which he has not the brains, training or temperament to bear

with becoming modesty or grace. His lack of ability to measure up fully to true greatness has been revealed throughout his career in recent years. When the Boston Club gave him leeway in 1919 for his home run specialty by making him a regular insteadof a pitcher, he broke the long-standing major league individual home run record, but proved such an insubordinate member of the team that Boston was glad to sell him to the New York Club. For that club in 1920 he broke the world's home run record,with the aid of the radical changes in the pitching rules, but the New York team won no pennant--owing largely to Ruth's discouraging effect on team work, though the club profited largely through his attraction as a drawing card. In 1921 he againbettered his world's record and the New York team finally won the pennant, however, not by reason of his home run hitting, but owing to the misfortunes of the Cleveland team; and that it lost the World s Series was largely due to Ruth's failure to

measure up to form and expectation in that classic event. Then came the famous "barnstorming" episode, in which Ruth defied both the laws of the game and Commissioner Landis, for which he drew a five weeks' suspension at the start of the 1922 season-- which marked the beginning of the end for Ruth. That five weeks' suspension was fatal to Ruth for the reason it prevented his proper development in condition and skill which comes only by participation in games; precluded all chance of equaling ormaking a new home run record this season, owing to his manifest decadence in batting; enabled other players to step into the home run picture, and demonstrated conclusively that he was not necessary to the New York team, as it jumped into and maintained

the lead long before Ruth and Meusel rejoined it, and lost the lead not long after these two worthies got into the game, owing to the futility of their batting. All this led to enormous shrinkage of Ruth's popularity with the fans, particularly of NewYork, many of whom turned from adulation to derision. The press, too, turned largely against the fallen idol--all of which had its effect upon a man of Ruth's limited intelligence, variable temperament, and colossal egotism, and undoubtedly led to hissenseless rows with umpires, for which he has been properly disciplined by President Johnson, who threatens to repeat the dose, upon similar provocation, until Ruth either behaves or gets out. . . In this event the brief reign of Babe Ruth, though highly profitable to the New York Club, will be memorable only for its evil effect upon the sport as a whole, as his constant exploitation as a home run hitter stimulated a home run craze in both public and players that led to temporary abandonment ofscientific play; and militated vastly against team work and discipline; and, worst of all, made a popular hero of a specialty player who lacks every qualification of a truly great player." (Sporting News, July 6, 1922, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment)1939 - "My outfield of Duffy, Cobb and Keeler is fast, they are good hitters and good throwers. My goodness! I know I left Ruth off. He had Combs playing his territory for him half the time. And Ruth was no base runner. And no great shucks as afighter. I tell you I want all-around men, with balance and fire." (New York Daily Sunday News, April 2, 1939, by Jimmy Powers)1926 - "Some have said that Ruth is a greater ball player than Cobb. Fact will hardly bear that out. Ruth is a great ball player in his specialty but he does not have it within him to be of the type that Cobb exemplified and the very nature of his

Most comprehensive all-sports newspaper, 1886-present physical frame militates against him." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 1)

NL manager, 1939-46, 48-55, 66-73, Dodgers coach, 1961-64

Dodgers manager, 1932-33, Pirates coach, 1930

Prominent Baseball Figures list their all-time players in order of greatness.Harry Salsinger, 2/15/1950 Sp. News Cobb Wagner RuthBozeman Bulger, 5/26/1928 Sat.Eve.P. Cobb WagnerJohn B. Sheridan, St. Louis spwr. (1880's-1929) 2/28/1929 Sp. News Cobb Wagner Bresnahan

Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb WagnerGabby Street Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb Wagner CollinsKid Gleason Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb WagnerWalter Johnson Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb Wagner JacksonHarry Grayson Cobb Wagner

5/26/1950 Cobb Ruth WagnerJohn Drebinger 4/7/1932 Cobb,'61 RuthRube Bressler 8/26/1964 tapes Cobb Ruth

Cobb,'61 Ruth,'48 WagnerFred Lieb 1950 Cobb,'70 Ruth WagnerBurt Shotten Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb Lajoie C. Klein

Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb Collins LajoieWilbert Robinson Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Cobb Keeler RuthFrancis C. Richter, 1925 Sp. News Cobb Ewing WagnerJohn J. McGraw Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Wagner Cobb Keeler

2-28-29;1951 Sp. News Wagner Cobb LajoieJimmy Burke Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Wagner Cobb Lajoie

John A. Heydler, NL Pres. 1909, 1918-34

Hornsby's home runs numbered 112 while Ruth in the same span hit 231. The crowds respected Hornsby. But they loved Ruth because he was

Mickey Welch, NL P, 1880-1891

The Sporting News, The Bible of Baseball

Leo Durocher, AL SS, 1925-29, NL SS, 1930-41

Max Carey, NL OF, 1910-29

Dan Howley (Ty's coach,1919, '21-22)

Eddie Collins (AL 2B, Man, Coach, Exec, '06-51)

Dan Daniel, NYC sp. wr., 1910-60's

Connie Mack, AL Man.('01-50), NL catcher(1886-96)

Ed Barrow (BR manager18-19,Y GM,'21-34)

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Bill McKechnie Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Wagner Cobb SpeakerSam Crawford Jul.,1961 Wagner CobbBranch Rickey 1965 Doc.of BB Wagner Cobb SislerJohn Gruber 2/28/1929 Sp. News Wagner CobbBill McGoogan Wagner CobbMax Carey Jan.,Feb.,'57 BBD Wagner E. Collins SislerJohnny Evers Apr.'30 BBMag Wagner Ruth CobbEd Roush Nov.1,1969 BBDigest Wagner (Cobb,Ruth)Lou Gehrig 1939 Wagner (Cobb,Ruth)Frankie Frisch Nov.1,1969 BBDigest (Cobb,Ruth)Grantland Rice 1943 Ruth,'48 Cobb WagnerBucky Harris Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Ruth Cobb SislerJoe McCarthy Jul.,1931 Phil.Pub.L Ruth Cobb WagnerBilly Wambsgnass Oct.1,'85 Sp. News Ruth Cobb (Speaker,Jackson)Earl Coombs 4/16/1942 Sp. News Ruth Cobb GehrigWaite Hoyt 1942 Sp. News Ruth,'42 Cobb,Nov.,'31Nap Lajoie Feb.,1956 (Wagner,Cobb,Ruth)Jimmy Austin 3/23/1965 tapes (Wagner,Cobb,Ruth)

Some SABR members Greatest Players 1 2 3Daniel Ginsberg 1/23/2001 letter Cobb Ruth MaysBill Burgess 10/8/2003 Cobb Wagner EwingCharles Alexander 1997 letter Ruth Cobb GehrigFurman Bisher 10/10/1999 letter Ruth Cobb WilliamsMarty Appel 10/27/1999 letter Ruth Cobb GehrigBob McConnell 9/14/1999 phone Ruth Cobb GehrigHerman L. Masin Dec.22,2002 letter Ruth Gehrig CobbGlenn Dickey Jun.,1999 phone Ruth Mays CobbPete Palmer Nov.4, 1997 letter Ruth Lajoie MaysDonald Honig Nov.8,1999 letter Ruth DiMaggio WagnerBill James 2001 abstract Ruth Wagner MaysLloyd Johnson 10/24/1999 letter Ruth O. Charles MaysJames Lindberg 3/24/2000 phone Ruth Wagner LajoieKevin Fura 10/25/1999 letter Wagner Ruth Gehrig

Ratio For Striking out ( AB divided by Strikeouts) example: In 1913, Ty Cobb struck out every 13.8 times at bat.Cobb Jackson Speaker Collins Sisler Hornsby

1913 13.8 20.3 23.6 14.41914 15.6 13.3 22.6 16.91915 13.0 20 39 19.2 10.11916 13.8 23.6 27.3 15.1 15.6 7.81917 17.9 21.5 37.3 35.2 28.3 15.31918 20 65 52.3 25.3 26.5 9.61919 22.5 51.6 41.1 19.1 25.5 12.41920 15.2 40.7 42.4 31.6 33.2 11.71921 26.6 42.1 47.8 21.5 12.31922 21.9 38.7 37.3 41.8 12.41923 39.7 38.2 63.1 * 14.6

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1924 34.7 37.3 34.7 21.9 16.71925 34.5 35.7 53.1 27 12.91926 116.5 35.9 46.8 20.4 13.51927 40.8 65.3 25.1 40.9 14.91928 22.0 38.2 31.7 11.81929 37 9.21930 28.7 *1931 25.2 15.5

Times Led the League Cobb Wagner Hornsby Ruth WilliamsBA 12 8 7 1 6

8 2 4 0 0Runs 5 2 5 8 6RBI 4 5 4 6 4Doubles 3 7 4 0 2Triples 4 3 1 0 0HR 1 0 2 12 4Total Bases 6 6 7 6 6Stolen Bases 6 5 0 0 0Slugging Pct. 8 6 9 13 8On Base Pct. 6 4 8 10 12Production 11 6 11 13 8Total Player Rating 2 9 8 11 7

Times Led the League Mays Aaron Lajoie Foxx Greenberg1 2 2 2 0

Hits 0 2 4 0 0Runs 2 3 1 1 1RBI 0 4 3 3 4Doubles 0 4 5 0 2Triples 3 0 0 0 0HR 4 4 1 4 4Total Bases 3 8 4 3 2Stolen Bases 0 0 0 0 0Slugging Pct. 5 4 4 5 1On Base Pct. 2 0 2 3 0Production 5 4 3 3 0Total Player Rating 9 3 9 4 0

Ty Cobb BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 12 8 3 4 12nd in league 3 3 4 2 23rd 1 3 1 1 24th 2 15th 1 16th 2 2

Hits

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Honus Wagner BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 8 2 7 3 02nd in league 2 2 1 3 13rd 5 3 24th 2 3 15th 1 1 1 2

Rogers Hornsby BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 8 4 4 2 22nd in league 2 1 1 1 23rd 1 1 1 1 34th 1 3 4 15th 5

Babe Ruth BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 1 1 122nd in league 2 1 23rd 2 1 14th 1 35th 1

Lou Gehrig BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 1 1 1 4 22nd in league 2 3 43rd 3 1 34th 1 15th 2 1 1

Ted Williams BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 6 2 42nd in league 2 1 2 43rd 1 2 24th 1 1 25th 4

Mickey Mantle BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 1 1 1 42nd in league 1 1 33rd 1 24th 2 2 15th 1

Willie Mays BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 1 1 3 42nd in league 3 1 1 1 13rd 2 1 1 1 34th 15th 1 1 1

Hank Aaron BA Hits 2B 3B HR

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Led league 2 2 4 42nd in league 3 2 2 43rd 1 1 14th 3 1 2 25th 4 2

Joe DiMaggio BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 2 0 0 1 22nd in league 0 1 1 0 03rd 2 1 0 4 14th 0 2 1 0 55th 0 0 0 0 2

Tris Speaker BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 1 2 8 12nd in league 2 1 3 1 23rd 7 2 1 14th 2 4 25th 1 2

Nap Lajoie BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league 3 4 5 12nd in league 3 4 13rd 1 1 1 14th 1 1 15th 1

Mike Schmidt BA Hits 2B 3B HRLed league2nd in league3rd4th5th

Zach WheatJoe JacksonEddie CollinsBarry BondsBilly WilliamsWade BoggsTony GwynnJimmie FoxxRalph KinerHank GreenbergAl SimmonsHarmon Killebrew

2003 season not included. 2003 season not included.Relative SA. Relative OBA (min. 5,000 AB)+76% Babe Ruth +37% Babe Ruth

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+65% Ted Williams +33% Billy Hamilton+56% Lou Gehrig +33% Dan Brouthers+52% Hank Greenberg +31% Barry Bonds**+52% Rogers Hornsby +31% Ty Cobb+52% Jimmie Foxx +30% Rogers Hornsby+52% Joe Jackson +30% Mickey Mantle+50% Barry Bonds +30% Roy Thomas+49% Johnny Mize +29% Joe Jackson+48% Joe DiMaggio +28% Tris Speaker (12th all-time)+47% Mickey Mantle (11th all-time) +27% Lou Gehrig (13th)+45% Ty Cobb (12th) +27% Stan Musial (16th)+45% Hank Aaron (14th) +22% Honus Wagner (37th)+45% Stan Musial (15th) +20% Willie Mays (54th)+45% Willie Mays (16th) +17% Hank Aaron (90th)

+15% Joe DiMaggio (129th)+40% Tris Speaker (24th)+38% Honus Wagner (32nd)

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What They Actually Said: The Historical Testimony of the Witnesses

1917 - "as an outfielder Ty Cobb is unusually good. I think his weakness, so far as he has any, is in his throwing arm. Not that his arm is weak by any means but it is not his strongest point." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85,)(Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85, Winning the Batting Championship by Tris Speaker)1917 - "Ty Cobb is a good outfielder but not the best. No one can cover any more ground than Ty. He is very fast, and ranges widely both to right & left. But he is more apt to get the hard ones than the easy ones & his throwing arm is not in the class with Lewis(Duffy) or Milan(Clyde)". (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917, pp. 292, "The Secret of Good Outfielding", by Harry Hooper)1932 - "Ty certainly had superiors in the outfield, though it seems to me that he never received quite the credit that was due him on defense. He was a much better outfielder than many people supposed. But his fielding was completely eclipsed byhis work elsewhere". (Baseball Magazine, August, 1932, pp. 395, The Winning Temperment, from an interview with Eddie Collins)1912 - Joe Wood was not only a teammate of Tris Speaker when he wrote this, but Tris' roommate and best friend. "Tris Speaker has played a wonderful game this year. It is his great work which has shown up so strongly and which accounts so largely for

the Red Sox' success. Many people compare Speaker with Ty Cobb. I suppose the Chalmers Automobile Commission will have to choose between these two for the final honor. Personally, I think Speaker on many accounts should get the prize, and at that, Iam willing to admit there is only one Ty Cobb. Ty is a better batter than Speaker, he is a better base runner. Everyone will concede that. He has always been more daring, more resourceful, although Speaker is fast breaking into that department of thethe game as well. But Speaker is a better fielder than Ty Cobb. He covers more ground, has as good if not a better throwing arm and while many people think that Cobb can run back an outfield fly farther than any other player in the game. I do not

think he has anything on Speaker in this respect. Speaker often plays well in, backing up second base in good shape, but he can go back into the outfield territory for a hard batted drive as far as anybody I ever saw. I think Speaker is superior to JoeJackson admitting that Joe is a wonderful player in every department of the game and Joe, too, has one point in which he exceeds not only Speaker and Ty Cobb, but everyone else in the business. He can throw from deep outfield farther than anybody I ever saw. I firmly believe there is no man in either league who can throw a ball as far as Jackson, but in several games where I have watched his peculiar ability in this line I have noticed that he is not always accurate in his throws and much of theadvantage which should come to him from this ability is lost through wildness. Jackson, of course, is a very great player and still young. He has been greatly handicapped by lack of early training, and I believe has not always had the encouragement orgood coaching to bring out the best of his talents. No doubt he will improve in coming seasons and if he could play in the East as well as he does in the west, he would beat them all out. Jackson bats at a .500 clip in his own city or on the averagewestern tour but for some reason cuts that in half on his eastern excursions. Why this is so, no one knows. It is one of the peculiarities of baseball and baseball players. It is hard to compare these three players, for they all excel in some onepoint or more. Oddly enough, they are all Southerners, and all wonders. They are far and away the greatest outfielders in the game, bar none. It is very fortunate for the red Sox that they have on their club one of these three players. No one canappreciate better than a pitcher the worth of a man who covers acres of ground, has a sure and deadly throwing arm and bats in the near neighborhood of .400.

(Baseball Magazine, November, 1912, pp. 52, "Joseph Wood, Esquire--Pitcher.", by John J. Ward, pp. 49-60)1931 - "In the outfield Ty was not supposed to be a star, but he always impressed me favorably. He was fast & could cover acres of ground. He certainly knew how to judge opposing batters as well as anyoneever did. But Ty's extraordinary batting & baserunning threw his fielding into the shade. This didn't mean he wasn't a great outfielder. It meant that he was an even greater batter & baserunner".(Baseball Magazine, April , 1931, pp. 484, column 1 & 2, "The Greatest Player I Ever Saw, Comprising an Interview With George Sisler, pp. 483-484)1936 - "They'll tell you he wasn't much of a fielder, but he was good enough. I know he took a lot of base hits away from me out there." (March 20, 1936, St. Petersburg, FL)1961 - "In the outfield he was terrific." (The Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 15, column 4)1984 - "He wasn't the greatest centerfielder in the world, by any means, but he was adequate." (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green,1984, pp. 47)1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end."(Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1)(Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1950 - "One of the finest outfielders I have known was Ty Cobb. He is written down in baseball history for many other accomplishments: I do not believe that he has been given full credit for his achievements as a fielder. Cobb was a real "ball hawk."

He knew, somehow, at the instant the pitcher let go of the ball where it was going to be hit, and times without number he would move to the spot in time for the catch when there was no earthly reason for him to be there. He had a peculiar way of catching a fly ball which hasn't been duplicated & which I would not recommend to anyone else; I doubt if anyone but Cobb could do the trick. On a fly, Cobb wouldn't look at the ball. He would look down at the ground & catch the ball directly over his head without even looking.Ty was very much misunderstood by many fans around the country but there is no player in the history of the game who excelled him in all-round ability."(From Sandlot to Big League,Connie Mack,1950,pp.59-60)1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. But he was a great outfielder with a great arm." (immediately after Ty died in July,'61)1961 - "He was a winner all the time. Ty would do anything to win a ball game, but when he got off the field, he was a perfect gentleman. Ty was a tremendous outfielder. . He was outstanding in everything." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1926 - "He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, to get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that ofsome great fielders, but I never could see any weakness in his fielding." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 6)1910 - "As for Cobb's fielding prowess, no manager could ask for a better man to play in right field, although doubtless there have been men who played the batsmen better and men who threw more accurately. No one will question the assertion that Cobb

covers as much ground as any player ever did, and as he catches almost everything he reaches, and reaches lots of balls that other fielders could not reach, I don't see what more any one could ask of him. He has a good throwing arm, and, what is better,he is not afraid to use it. He lets go of the ball the minute he knows where he is going to throw, and he usually thrown to the right place.On recovering long, and short hits to the outfield the Detroit man has few equals."(New York Times, April 17, 1910)1934 - "When Ty Cobb came to the big leagues back in 1905 he was an awkward and ordinary outfielder. His burning ambition and readiness to work on his weaknesses raised him within a few years to the baseball heights. To watch Cobb chasing flies in his

prime was to see the supreme master and judge of distance, direction and speed. It seemed that the crack of the bat was the signal by itself for sending Cobb to the right spot. He looked the part of the born ball player, to him fly chasing was asinstinctive as eating, but it was well known that he was developed out of a rookie, as most ball players are. But in contrast to Cobb there was Tris Speaker who was what may be termed a finished fielder when he reached the big leagues. His developmentmerely came earlier, and perhaps, easier. As an infielder, George Sisler may be placed in this class also. He was a highly finished product during his college days at the University of Michigan, so that when the St. Louis Browns signed him to aprofessional contract in 1915 they had what some people called a "born" ball player. (Scholastic Coach, Footwork in Baseball by George Moriarty, March, 1934, pp. 10)1915 - "On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had the better throwing armof the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another.

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(Baseball Magazine, August, 1915, pp. 47-48, "Handicaps of the Early Season, by William A. Phelon, pp. 41-50)Hugh S. Fullerton in Golfer tells of a remarkable play in base running-yet one not remarkable for Cobb,for, as a friend remarked, "He pulls that stuff all the time. "Mr. Fullerton describes Cobb in a game in Detroit some years ago. "Late in the game,he made a play which opened my eyes. A runner was on second base when a short fly was hit over second into center. Cobb could have handled it without an effort. The second baseman or shortstop could have caught it, but it would have required a faststart. Cobb claimed the catch the instant the ball was hit. "Instead of starting for it at top speed he leaped forward, seemed to hesitate, started slowly and half stopped. Bush, who evidently knew the system, started out hard as if to try to catch the

ball. Cobb yelled something. Bush stopped and backed up. The ball was falling and Cobb was still lagging. It looked fifty to one the ball would fall safe. The runner on second thought he saw the ball falling, thought Cobb didn't have a chance to makethe catch and he leaped toward third. As he did so Cobb sprang forward with a wonderful sprint, made a desperate shoe-string catch, came up with the ball and tossed it to second, doubling the runner off the bag. He had made a play where there was none--had deliberately plotted to deceive the runner into believing the ball would fall safe, and had risked making a desperate catch to get the chance for a double play." (NL Spalding Baseball Guide, date uncertain)1935 - "Beside being the best base runner and hitter he was a magnificent fielder and a fine thrower until he hurt his arm, but it was his indomitable spirit that made him the leader.1929 - "In addition a great fielder in his prime." (Sporting News, March 14, 1929, pp. 5, column 2)1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's(of Swat) - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means a poor fielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than abusy man in the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only

one on which he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1925, pp. 353-355, "Who Is the Greatest, Cobb or Ruth?", by Jack C. Kofoed)1983 - "He was fast, a great outfielder, great hitter, and he was highly intelligent. Don't forget that." (Baseball Digest, 1983)

1916 - Aty centre all will acknowledge that Ty Cobb is something of a batter, but to give Ty due justice, he would never have been a star of the 1st magnitude as a fielder. He covers much ground, to be sure, but his throwing arm is not particularlygood. Certainly Ty is not in the same class with Clyde Milan as a fielder, to say nothing of Tris Speaker and several others. Milan is nearly a perfect fielder, prabably second only to the peerless Tris. He is also a good batter, but his fielding isbest. (Baseball Magazine, July, 1916, pp. 38-39, column 2, "Batting or Fielding --- Which?", by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 33-41)

1916 - "As a fielder, while not in the same class as Harry Hooper or Clyde Milan, Joe is certainly not poor. In fact, he is very good. Furthermore, his throwing arm is tremendously strong & his speed is great, though not always utilized to the full." (Jackson, continued) (Baseball Magazine, 1916, AL All-Star team)1916 - "Joe Jackson isn't a wonderful fielder and his throwing arm, although strong, isn't always backed up by equally good judgment in direction. But who would keep a player off the outfield squad with a possible .400 ave. in his bat.?(Baseball Magazine, July, pp. 38, column 1, "Battin or Fielding --- Which?, by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 33-41)

1916 - "And he is a fielder with few superiors." (Baseball Magazine, December, 1919, AL All-Star team)1917 - "Joe Jackson has a strong arm but I would say that his aim is not always accurate & that he has not at made the most of this undoubted talent which he possesses." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85, column 3, "Winning the Batting Championship", by Tris Speaker)1917 - "Joe Jackson has great natural talents. He is by no means a poor outfielder as some people would have us believe. He is a good one. but it is fair to admit that his forte is in batting rather than fielding." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917)1929 - "In the matter of sheer natural ability, I believe Joe Jackson surpassed every outfielder that ever came to the major leagues. That opinion was once ventured by Frank Navin, who happens to be one of the keenest judges of baseball talent underthe big top. I have never heard Jackson analyzed in that manner before, but after glancing back through the big parade of rookies that have bowed in and out of major league premises, I doubt if any expert can help but concur in that view. Of course,Of course, back of that opinion that Jackson stood highest in that one vital respect, it is obvious that he failed to develop his inherent skill. Nevertheless, he had the distinction of being a star by virtue of mechanical ability alone. If he hadpossessed the baseball brain of a Cobb or a Speaker, he might have shared the pedestal with these once super-stars. Jackson's mechanical power was amazing. He was tall, and had a great natural eye which made him a potential batsman. He sprinted overthe outfield territory with ease and grace in long strides, and rivaled Bob Meusel as a thrower. "Mister Joe" as he preferred to be called, was a dead catch on flies, yet, he made no effort to give a close or scientific exhibition of outfielding. He wasentirely lacking in initiative, and never resorted to tricks or subterfuge to put something over on the opposition. Jackson should have been one of the greatest base runners in the game, on account of his speed, but the fine points of pilfering were

foreign to him. By an odd twist of the fates, Jackson just missed becoming a member of the Detroit Tigers when he was a busher. On the day the Detroit ivory-hunter chose to watch the big fellow do his stuff, Joe placidly galloped through nine innings inhis stocking feet. The searcher of talent immediately concluded that Jackson was too goofy to get by in the big leagues, and left the park in disgust. Jackson later defended his act with the explanation that spiked shoes hurt his feet. The nickname"Shoeless Joe" was the result of that unique incident. At the plate one day after he had biffed a long hard foul, the catcher complimented Jackson in this wise: "How do you bust them so hard, Joe?" And the elongated Jackson naively replied,"Don't know--I jes' swing, and they go safe." That remark probably reflected Jackson's make-up. He just did things on the ball field, and could give no illuminating reason for it. Jackson's admirers always liked to believe that he was led into theBlack Sox affair of 1919, and would have followed the straight line of duty if he had been accustomed to self-assertiveness." (Baseball Magazine, Feb. 1929, pp. 430-431, "On the Bench With George Moriarty, by George Moriarty)

1938 - "Ruth could make marvelous catches of fly balls that were as spectacular in their cleverness as made by any outfielder playing ball. Especially was this true of those long high flies which, to a slower man, it would have been impossible to get under." (Spalding Official Baseball Guide, 1938, put out in early 1938)

1929 - And then I thought of Cobb, Speaker and Ruth and I discarded all others. These men represent the pick of all-time in any man's league. You simply can't escape them. Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, thegreatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime. And as to Ruth, well, he is still with us and going at his best. Many believe Ruth just a slugger and a home run showman. That is not

the truth. Ruth is a great player as well as a great hitter. He is a splendid fielder and a good base runner for his size. He is a better thrower than Cobb was, and Ty was good in his earlier days. He has the baseball instinct, as shown by the factthat he has played first base and has pitched, and at each position he has been successful to a high degree. In my opinion, Ruth is not outshone by the other two outfielders named. He is one of the greatest players that ever lived, in my opinion.

1931 - "He is really a great outfielder, one of the greatest. He plays batters correctly, covers a lot more ground than you'd think he'd be able to do with his bulk, and has one of the deadliest throwing arms ever known. Besides, Babe has an accuratebaseball judgment and never throws to the wrong base." (Baseball Magazine, April, 193l, pp. 484, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw, Comprising an interview, by George Sisler, pp. 484-485)1959 - "As a defensive outfielder he was top-hole despite his great bulk, and his throwing arm was one of the most feared." (Baseball Digest, March, 1959, Washington Post, pp. 42, 43)

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1924 - "Most enthusiasts think of Ruth only as a mighty batsman. As a matter of fact, he is a very finished outfielder with a marvelous throwing arm. . . Ruth plays a hard-hit ball as well as any outfielder in the business. He goes after a ground balllike an infielder, and for all his size he is a smart and daring base runner. (Collier's, The National Weekly, Oct. 11, 1924, pp.45)1947 - "Few modern fans may realize it, but Babe Ruth was a great outfielder. We mean defensively. The Babe rarely dropped a ball he got his glove on and nobody can remember when he threw to the wrong base. How did he get that way? Not by sittingaround, watching other outfielders practice." (Baseball Magazine, September, 1947)

1975 - ". . .Ruth?. . . But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he was a great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer. (Baseball Research Journal,1987, #16, pp. 54)(This was a reproduced 1975 interview by Mark Alvarez)1936 - "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew.1923 - "His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if not mediocre. ( Baseball Magazine, June, 1923, pp. 291)1924 - "Babe Ruth is baseball's greatest drawing card. His all round value, considering his terrific hitting, is perhaps unequaled. But Babe will never see the day when he ranks with Pep Youngs as an outfielder, taking into consideration only theplaying of that important position. Ruth knows batters and he plays them correctly. He can camp under a high fly as well as the next man. He has one of the greatest throwing arms ever seen in the outfield. But when you have said this, you have said it all. Babe is rather clumsy. He isn't specially fast. He's not a great outfielder. Pep Youngs is all these things, and he also has a whip as deadly as a rifle. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 307, Comprising interview with Ross Youngs by F.C. Lane)1946 - "But there also were numerous occasions when the Babe made plays which he had craftily thought up beforehand. Such as the day he played left field in Detroit and trapped no less an experienced hand than Charley Gehringer into thinking a fly

ball had cleared the fence for a homer instead of coming down for an easy out. This was before the present double deck stands had been erected in what then was call Navin Field. There was just a board fence in left and to the Babe one day it occurredthat with a runner on second it could be possible, with a high fly ball hit out toward left, to fake all the notions of a dejected outfielder who knows a homer is about to sail over his head. So he bided his time and one afternoon it came. With Gehringer on second, a high fly soared out to left. The Babe ran back to the fence, looked up at the ball for a moment and then with a motion of utter disgust shrugged his shoulders and cast his eyes on the ground. It was a beautiful piece of acting and

fooled Gehringer completely. Certain the ball was clearing the fence, the Tiger second baseman headed for home. And in that same moment Ruth darted forward, got his eyes back on that ball and caught it some five feet in front of the fence. Doubling up Gehringer at second was then a simple matter. Of course, in order to accomplish the trick an outfielder must be equipped with the gift of being able to take his eye off the ball for an appreciable length of time. But then the effervescent Babe Ruthwas ever a very gifted hand at anything he tried on a ball field. (Baseball Magazine, 1946)

1930 - His (McGraw's) deepest admiration went out to Ty Cobb, because Cobb was another firebrand always out to win. The first two qualities he looked for were fight and brains because he knew they were game-winners. (Collier's, April 5, 1930)1930 - "My choice of an all-time, all-star team? I'll tell you: Honus Wagner, shortstop and lead-off man, Ty Cobb in center, Willie Keeler in right field, Babe Ruth in left,batting fourth, Lou Gehrig behind him and at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, Jimmy Collins at third, Roger Bresnahan catching and Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson pitching. What a team of sweet hitting, sweet fielding, sweet pitching players that would be. I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, ratherthan as a player. But nothing like that will ever happen in baseball, for every manager will always have one or two weak spots. (Sporting News, Nov. 20, 1930, pp. 7, column 6)

1931 - …Bob Davis asked John J. (McGraw) who was the best all-around player in the history of the game, and without a moment's hesitation came back with the answer: "Honus Wagner. In my humble opinion, he stands out as the supreme figure. Wagnerhad everything, and when I say that, every baseball fan in the United States knows what I mean. Ty Cobb is a close second. There are a number of other players who have special gifts, but Wagner and Cobb had all the gifts. I doubt if the next generationwill see their equal." So McGraw's vote is for Wagner. Anson's was for Cobb and Comiskey's was, and is for the Peach. (The Sporting News, March 19, 1931, pp. 4, column 3) by Ernest Lanigan)1931 - "Wagner could do everything required of a ball player." said McGraw as he sat in the Giants' dugout in the Polo Grounds. "he had tremendous hands and in addition to his great playing ability, had a wonderful disposition and was easy to handle.I'll place Cobb second and Keeler third. Al Simmons is my next pick as I consider him the greatest ball player of the present day. Like Wagner, he is a right-handed hitter of power and can field his position splendidly and throw fast and accurately.Simmons is no dumb ball player, either. My own first baseman, Bill Terry, is included in my selection. He is really a great ball player and the best first baseman I have ever seen." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931)(Survey asked 12 major league managers and coaches, who they thought were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)1909 - "Cobb is the fastest man I have ever seen," he told The Sporting News. "I never thought he could have that much speed. I heard a lot about Cobb, and how fast he was, but he surprised me by the speed he showed on the bases in the World Series.Cobb is what I call a perfect player. He lacks nothing. There is not a thing a ballplayer should have that Cobb hasn't got, and he's got a bunch of things that no other ballplayer has." (Carnegie Union, Oct.21,1909) A month after the Series had ended,Wagner joined Cobb in the fields near Macon, Georgia. The Sporting News quoted Wagner as saying: "I could have had a crack at a ground squirrel or two and perhaps a barnyard chicken, but as for hunting, Georgia won't do. Mr. Cobb is one of the most

genial gentlemen I have ever met, but there are two things we will never agree on--game and baseball…The South is all right, and Cobb's all right, too, but I wish he hadn't told me about the swell hunting in Georgia." (The Sporting News, Dec.16,1909) Undated - "I always liked Ty. He was a fighter and he knew it was a fellow's duty to protect himself out there. Lots of 'em had trouble with Ty, but I never did." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 170)1931 - "Ty Cobb was Hornsby's hero, and this is what he had to say about him: "Of course, I never saw Cobb when I was a kid, because the Tigers didn't ever come to Fort Worth, and I didn't ever get very far from it. But as far back as I can remember, Iwanted to be a great hitter, and I guess there never was a greater hitter than Cobb. So he was my hero and, on account of him,the Tigers were my favorite team, and I followed him and the Tigers through the newspapers every day. I first saw himin the spring of 1916, when I was with the Cardinals in training at San Antonio and we went to Waxahachie, where the Tigers trained, to play an exhibition game. I didn't say anything to him and he didn't say anything to me, but I got a thrill out of watching him because in those days he was plenty good. He handled a bat like a billiard-cue, and he was on fire every time he got on the bases. Later I got to know him real well, and to like him as much as I thought I would when I was a kid."(Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, "They Had Their Heroes, Too", by Frank Graham) (This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, Jan. 2, 1932)1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. Ty was a tremendous outfielder with a great arm. He was outstanding in everything. Cobb was called a dirty

ballplayer because he went into a base with his spikes high but he never hurt anybody. It was his way of playing ball. He was a winner all the time. Ty would do anything to win a ball game, but when he got off the field, he was a perfect gentleman. He was outstanding in everything." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1962 - "Ty Cobb, who in my opinion is the greatest player of all time, still holds the stolen-base record of 96 he set in 1915, the year I came to the major leagues. Now cobb--I've played against him in exhibitions and managed against him in the 1921

Winter League in California when he managed the San Francisco Seals and I managed the Los Angeles Angels. He was a helluva competitor. . . He led the American League in stolen bases 6 times. Led the league in batting 12 times. And, as I've said allthrough this book, he was the greatest player I ever saw.Now Babe Ruth. They may have written more about the Babe than about George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. All I can say new about Ruth is that he hit for power--not average--and had a lifetime batting average of .342. Dead ball or lively ball, he'd hit 60home runs if they were pitching him softballs." ( My War With Baseball, by Rogers Hornsby, as told to Bill Surface, 1962, pp. 247) (Author's note: Hornsby died Jan.5, 1963)1931 - "For third place you simply must make room for Ty Cobb. Ty was the most brilliant ballplayer baseball has produced, the most daring, the most spectacular. Ty was poison on the base-paths. He completely disrupted infield defense. At bat he alwaysmixed ability with brains. He had the most versatile batting attack on record. I have publicly said many times that Ty was my own batting model, and he was. I tried to learn place hitting by watching him. No one that I ever heard of taught

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Ty how to bat. But dozens of players owe a good deal of their own batting success to Ty's teaching. (Baseball Magazine, April , 1931, pp. 484, "The Greatest Player I Ever Saw, Comprising an Interview With George Sisler, pp. 483-484)1942 - "If you played during the years that he was burning up the league, you cold never forget the Georgian. I know that I never will." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time" Why?""The greatness of Ty Cobb was something that had to be seen, and to see him was to remember him forever." said George Sisler, the brilliant first baseman who contended against him for more than a decade. (Ty Cobb by Charles C. Alexander, 1984, prologue 1)

"He was the greatest and most amazing ballplayer I ever saw," attested Hall of Famer George Sisler, himself a candidate for best-ever honors. (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 28)1931 - Settling on Cobb for center field, the Babe told the Associated Press, "We've got to give it to Ty because of his offensive ability. He was in a class by himself everywhere but on the defense. I would rate Hap Felschof the Old White Sox and Tris Speaker far superior to Cobb on the defense. Felsch was a greater ball hawk than Speaker, and what an arm had! (The Literary Digest, February 14, 1931)1933 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest all-around ballplayer that he has even seen. Babe Ruth declared in a recent fanning bee, in listing the stars he has seen in action during his long career on the diamond. He placed Napoleon Lajoie first among thegreatest natural hitters, ranking Sam Crawford second and Joe Jackson third. Walter Johnson was his choice of greatest pitcher, with Bob Grove second and Herb Pennock named the smartest. Shucks Pruett, with his screw ball, was credited with giving theBabe his greatest trouble at bat." (Sporting News, Feb. 23, 1933, pp. 2, column 7)1936 - "The greatest ballplayer I ever saw? Well, I'll have to say Ty Cobb. He could do more with a bat than any player in my time and I don't suppose there ever was a base runner like him. They'll tell you he wasn't much of a fielder, but he was goodenough. I know he took a lot of base hits away from me out there." March 20, 1936. St. Petersburg - (Joe Williams Baseball Reader by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 84.)

rivals are on opposing sides again. Cobb having come here from his California home to manage the Western All-Stars against Babe Ruth's Easterners in Esquire's boy's baseball game at the Polo Grounds Tuesday night. "Make no mistake about that," bellowedthe home-run king. The old boy was the greatest player I ever saw or hope to see. When I was pitching I had fair success against all the other great hitters, but Cobb was one guy I never could get out. I had a reputation as a slugger and I guess I

could him 'em pretty far at that, but that guy Cobb could do everything -- better than any player I ever saw. Old Georgia Peach was a great hitter, a spectacular fielder, a wonderful thrower and oh boy, how he could run. You think I set a lot of records,"the Babe went on, wiping his brow, "why the old boy still owns, how many records is it, Ty? Forty-two?" "They say I used to scare pitchers just by strolling to the plate but those guys always had a remedy for me. Whenever they were afraid I'd knock oneout of the park, they'd walk me and their worries would be over. But once Cobb got on base then their worries really began. He would upset not only the pitcher or catcher, but the infield as well by going from, first to third on a sacrifice bunt, scoring from second on an infield out, taking two bases on an outfield fly and making delayed steals. "One of the biggest thrills I ever got out of baseball was to watch Cobb head into a base. He always reminded me of Man-of-War tearing through thehomestretch. Fans still talk about the home run I hit in the 1932 World Series off Charlie Root of the Cubs after I pointed to the right-field stands. Well I once remember Cobb beating out 4 bunts down the third base line in one game againstBilly Bradley, a wonderful third baseman for Cleveland. That was after Cobb warned Bradley he would bunt to him every time he got up. Another time Cobb warned Lou Criger, a great catcher with Boston, that he would steal second, third and home on himfirst chance he got. Well, the first time up, Cobb walked and on three pitches stole second, third and home against the dumbfounded Criger. "Yes, add that to the fact Cobb led the league 12 times in 13 years, three times with over .400 averages, finished with a lifetime mark of .367 and tops all hitters in total hits, runs, triples, total bases and stolen bases and you have the greatest player of them all.

1946 - "You can say for me that Ty Cobb was the greatest I ever saw, or ever heard about. Play him towards left center and he'd hit down the right field foul line. If you hugged the foul line he'd hit the ball into left center," Ruth thundered. "When Iwas pitching I'd always make him hit the dirt by throwing the ball at his right ear. He'd get up and try to knock the ball down my throat. When Cobb was on first, I'd count three and throw to second. When I was pitching for the Red Sox, Heinie Wagner wasour shortstop. Heinie'd block the bag, but Ty would cut him from ankle to knee with his spikes," Babe continued with gusto. "Why, Ty used to trim Home Run Baker's hair with his spikes. I guess they play more polite baseball today. In our day, Ty's and mine, the infielders wore felt shin guards." (Baseball Digest, March, 1946, by Al Buck, "Cobb Greatest" vows Ruth, condensed from the New York Post.)1924 - Replying to the writer's query as to whom he considered the greatest all-around player player in the game, the pitcher said: That is a tough question, but if you insist upon an answer, my selection is Ty Cob. My reasons are several. He is oneof the greatest, probably the greatest batter, that ever lived. He is an excellent fielder and a most dangerous base runner. In fact, he is a star of the highest ranking in every department of the game. But the qualifications that I have alreadymentioned are not the only measures of Cobb's usefulness. It is the zest, the never-say-die spirit with which he plays that adds to his usefulness to the team. The fight and fire of his enthusiasm of his play are confusing to his opponents and spur his teammates to utmost efforts. In physical and tempermental equipment Ty is unexcelled and these things have put him on a pedestal as a figure that especially appeals to young player. (Washington Post, December 28, 1924, pp. SM4, "Walter Johnson's 20 Years On the Mound", as related to him by Lillian Barker)

1925 - "In 18 years, I have never had an unfriendly word with Cobb. I consider him one of my best friends. Even when I landed from the wilds of Idaho, a raw and frightened kid, Cobb treated me right.""He was always willing to fight to win, but I don't believe Cobb ever picked a fight just for the sake of a row. Leave him alone and treat him right and he is all you expect to find in a well-mannered Southern gentleman. But start something unfair andyou'll get a fight--whether you're a ballplayer or a taxicab driver! It didn't take me long to size him up as a hot-headed young fellow who didn't mean half the things he said." (Walter Johnson by Henry W. Thomas, 1995, pp. 145)1925 - "If you're talking about great players, Ty is in a class by himself." (Baseball Magazine, The Greatest Batters I Have Ever Faced, by Walter Johnson, June, 1925, pp. 291, 292, 327, 329; quote appears on pp. 292) (Essential article, discusses Lajoie, Joe Jackson, Speaker, Cobb, Eddie Collins, Frank Baker and of course, Babe Ruth.) I consider this essential reading.1929 - "Ty was the smartest player that I ever saw by so great a margin that I won't even bother to think who was second best. And that's credit enough. For brains are just as prominent in baseball as in any other profession. Ty was always about three jumps ahead of the crowd. That's what made him such a wonderful star. You could never dope out what he was going to do next. Always, he had you guessing. He had the infield up in the air. He was continually getting the catcher's goat. The outfield couldn't lay for Ty. They never knew where he would drive the ball."

(Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)1931 - "Cobb received another first-place vote from Walter Johnson, former great right-handed pitcher and now manager of the Washington Senators. Johnson was lavish in his praise of the "Georgia Peach." He gave Wagner second place and then namedJackson, Ruth and Collins. He had a hard time deciding between Collins and Speaker, with Eddie winning by a shade." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managers and coaches, who they thought

were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)1942 - "He could do everything better than any player I ever saw. He was always the first one to detect weaknesses or mistakes of the opposition and benefit by the same." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) SportingNews mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time" Why?"1965 - "The great unrealized and almost never-mentioned contribution of Cobb to the winning of games was his constant wrecking of pitcher concentration on the pitch. With Cobb on first, or any base for that matter, many pitchers over a period of, say,twenty years became simply "throwers." He caused catchers to call for more pitch-outs by far than any player in the history of the game, thereby setting up constantly the three-and-one and two-and-nothing situations for the next batsman and givingrepeated opportunity for the batsman to hit the "cripple.". . . I never knew of any player other than Cobb practicing sliding with the intent of using the loose foot to kick the ball out of the baseman's hand. He actually practiced that movement. And

Babe Ruth Calls Ty the Greatest Player Ever To Don Spikes--New York, Aug. 24 (AP).--Babe Ruth worshippers might be shocked to learn that the old Bambino himself considers Ty Cobb the greatest ball player ever to don spikes. The two ancient

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Cobb could and did concentrate on it with great effect. It led to the general charge throughout the American League that, on occasion, he intentionally spiked the tagged. I don't think he ever spiked anyone intentionally. . . But he was not a cruelplayer - not in my book. One more word on Cobb on the subject of his hitting. I may have left the impression that Cobb was not a power hitter. On several occasions he would engage in a pre-game exhibition contest of power hitting. It is said that henever lost a single contest. He could drive a ball for tremendous distance when that was his only purpose. I don't believe that Cobb, when batting, ever had a home run in his mind. . . . Cobb is to be understood rather than maligned unjustly. . . The truth is that Cobb is the greatest one-game player in all baseball history. He was the most positive character in the game. He was baseball's most earnest and assiduous learner. He was the greatest perfectionist, both on offense and defense.

No player could come close to Cobb's record. Probably no one will ever equal it. Who's the greatest player that ever performed in the major leagues? The vote would surely be Cobb or Wagner. Take your pick. Cobb had a psychological effect on opponents which Wagner did not have. Wagner had a morale value among his teammates which Cobb did not have. If I had first chance in making up an all-time All-American team for a season's play of 154 games, I would be compelled to choose Wagner. But for

1942 - "I think he was the most sensational base-runner who ever lived. He could get more base hits than any competitor simply by worrying the pitchers to desperation and crossing up the infielders." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars and managers. It asked, "who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?1961 - "He was on the bases all the time, and could beat a ball club all by himself with his stealing and base-running…He was a good friend of mine. I got some very nice encouragement and suggestions from him while I was managing the Yankees."

1975 - "I never saw anyone like Ty Cobb. No one even close to him as the greatest all-time ballplayer. Ruth was sensational. Cobb went beyond that. When he wiggled those wild eyes at a pitcher, you knew you were looking at the one bird no one could

beat. It was like he was superhuman. (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 27)1918 - "Take Ty Cobb, for instance, the most illustrious of batters, Ty is versatile almost beyond belief. He can hit in any direction he pleases, as nearly as any batter can do so. And yet Ty has his tendencies and his preferences. When Ty is at batI do not play him exactly in the center of the outfield. I play him in left centre. For experience has taught me that he will hit more often in that direction than toward the opposite field. Of course Cobb is one of the hardest men in the world to play

for. Many outfielders make little or no attempt to play for him at all. But the average player is by no means in that category." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1918, pp. 825, Fine Points of the Game Which Are Lost on the Crowd, by Tris Speaker)1920 - Tris Speaker declared that "it goes without saying that Cobb still is the greatest ballplayer around," (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 318)1925 - "There's no doubt in my mind that Ty is the best all-around hitter who ever lived," reiterated Tris Speaker. "He can bunt, chop-hit, deliver long drives, or put balls out of sight." (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 363)1942 - "He could do all that any player should do and had besides great competitive spirit and the willingness to take chances at all times. (Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters toformer ML stars and managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why"1944 - "Yes, Cobb was the greatest I ever looked at," said Tris Speaker as we sat in the 4 and 20 Bar of the Hotel Carter. "There have been some better fielders--say, like Hap Felsch--and some better throwers --take Joe Jackson, for instance--but when everything is considered there has never been a man in baseball to equal Ty. If he had a weakness at bat, it was a pitch right through the middle, because he hit late.". . . I've known Ty well for all these years, and what a ball player he was! As a base runner I never saw him go out of his way to cut a man's legs off, but he read the rule books. He knew that the paths belonged to the runner." (Sporting News, January 6, 1944, pp. 7, column 1, by Ward Morehouse, Cleveland, O.)

1950 - Tris Speaker, one of the greatest outfielders of all-time, nominates Ty Cobb as the No. 1 player. Speaker insists none could compare with Cobb. "It was Ty's spirit," said Speaker, "that made him great. It was the most competitive thing insports. It not only actuated him; It kindled a flaming will to win in every member of Ty's team. And it frequently developed hysteria in the opposing nine. I know. I always played against Ty until my last year in baseball. Ty and I were then playingfor Philadelphia. His youth had gone but the fire was there. It was nice to be on his side." (Sporting News, June 7, 1950, pp.16, column 5)1954 - "When we both were young and going good," he said, "the writers were kind enough to say of me that I was the closest thing to him. Now, Let's not be immodest about this. I was good and I knew it. I had to know it because it says so in thebook. But, good as I was, I never was close to Cobb and neither was Ruth or anybody else. . . Ruth was a great ball player. But, in my opinion, Cobb was even greater; the Babe could knock your brains out, but Cobb would drive you crazy."(Speaker, continued), (Baseball Digest, Nov. - Dec., 1954, pp. 93-96, By Frank Graham)1915 - "What Johnson is to pitchers, in my opinion, Ty Cobb is to all other players. There might be a good deal of discussion as to who is entitled to rank as the greatest player on the diamond, but not in my opinion when Cobb is still in the game.His gifts are so unusual, so far above the next best, that he stands in a class by himself. I have never seen and never expect to see from any other person such wonderful playing as Ty Cobb has performed at his very best when facing the Athletics andthat may be better than his usual average. It might well be and yet that average surpasses anything of which any other player is capable. I frankly admit that I never expect, have never expected to equal Cobb as a ball player. The best that any otherplayer can hope for, in my opinion, is second place." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1915, pp. 63-63, "Collins the Great", by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 47-63)

1924 - "Unhesitatingly I would say Ty Cobb [is the best ball player]. I won't attempt to describe him. You all know him. The most conspicious figure in the game for the past twenty years, whose wonderful natural ability, indomitable spirit, courage andaggressivenress all have assisted to raise him to heights never reached by any other ball player. (Los Angeles Times, Apr 20, 1924, pg. J8)1928 - "I find it a trifle difficult to express concisely my esteem for Ty Cobb. Since my entry into Baseball, he has been my Model and I have striven to imitate his style of play. To me, he seems Perfection, personified. It doesn't seem sufficient toto just say, "the greatest ballplayer of all time." At one time bitterest rivals, it is most gratifying to me to become a team mate of Ty's, in the closing years of our careers. I feel confident that this Most Excellent Biography of the game's Premier Player will fill a long-felt want among Mr. Cobb's great host of admirers." Edward T. Collins, Philadelphia American League Ball Club, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, (Introduction to Ty Cobb: The Idol of Fandom, by Sverre O. Braathen, of the Wisconsin Bar, 1928) 1931 - Collins labeled Ty Cobb as the greatest player he ever saw. For distance hitting, he made a bow to Babe Ruth. No one ever hit the ball as hard as the big Bambino. Bur for all-around play-give Eddie the Georgia Peach. (Sporting News, Feb. 26, 1931, pp. 5, column 5)

1942 - "Why was Cobb the greatest? Obvious."(Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) (Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed over100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1944 - "Eddie Collins turned the tables on Ty Cobb when he learned that the former Detroit star had selected him as the ball player's ball player of all-time. Ty was so far superior to any other player that no one else could touch him," Collins said. Despite his natural ability as a hitter and fielder, it was his everlasting determination to be the best and to improve himself that made him the greatest player of all time." Agreeing with Cobb that Joe Jackson was the greatest of the game's hitters,

Collins explained that Jackson did not have the indomitable will that characterized Ty. (Sporting News, December 14, 1944, pp. 14, columns 4 & 5)1950 - "There was never a more dynamic player than Cobb, and as long as it had to be a player of Ty's stature that dimmed my own shining star, I can't say I have any regrets. He was in a class by himself. It's to my disadvantage there was no playergreater before him or since. In my opinion I'd have shown to much greater advantage if I had played in any era but the era of Cobb. We were good friends during our playing days and remain good friends today. There's another matter I'd like to getstraight now, too. I want to correct the erroneous impression that Cobb deliberately went out of his way to spike opposing players. It just wasn't so, and I was in a position in know - for many times I felt the lightning touch of his flying spikes. He was a very aggressive and outstanding player. He asked no quarter and gave none. I can truthfully say I remember no time that he went out of his way to cut down another player. He was a hard slider, and if that sounds like an awkward or cumbersome phrase, let me explain that the next base was always his objective. His spikes left their marks on countless players, but that was because he was such an aggressive, victory-hungry player. If anyone blocked his way a collision was inevitable. I know

game today: Ty Cobb. (American Diamond, A Documentary of the Game, Branch Rickey, 1965)

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from years of observation and close association with him as a rival player that he was an elusive slider who frequently slid away from a tag rather than adopt football tactics. (Sporting News, Oct. 18, 1950, pp. 14, column 1)1950 - "Ty Cobb had joined the team in 1927, as I previously stated, and our friendship blossomed into a close companionship. In fact, it was Ty who embarked me on my career as a baseball executive." (Sporting News, Nov.8, 1950, pp. 13, column 1)1950 - "Then an ambition I had long harbored was finally realized. Ty Cobb, the greatest of all baseball players, had been picked up by Connie Mack along with me. I had always wanted to play on the same team with Cobb. Ty's acquisition by Connie Mack seemed as fantastic as the selection by Mr. Comiskey in 1924 of Chance as manager of the White Sox. It just seemed inconceivable that Cobb would ever be seen in a uniform other than that worn by the Tigers. He had the same indomitable spirit he had

when I first played against him years earlier, but the old legs had started to go and where the spirit was plenty willing the muscles refused to co-ordinate in the manner of other years. His trigger-like brain however, was still functioning on allcylinders and it was a joy to watch him in action." (Sporting News, November 1, 1950, pp. 14, column 5)1924 - "Some people used to ridicule that standing order in baseball, to throw the ball one base ahead of Ty. but it was no joke. It was frequently done. In the old days you never could afford to take the slightest chance with Ty. If you did, hewould generally outwit you. His amazing dash and nerve and instantaneous get-a-way were a tricky and brilliant combination to beat. There probably have been players faster than Ty on a straight-away dash. I will even concede there have been players asfast as he in getting down to first. Burt Shotton was a veritable arrow in his day. But Ty had them all stopped when it came to consistent, persistent, daring base-running at any and all times. He was like compressed steam, always exerting pressure,always searching out a weak spot here and there to display his seemingly inexhaustible and tireless energies. Doubtless, when I have said Good-bye to baseball, there will appear in future days some young phenomenon whom scribes and public will hail as greater than Ty Cobb. But they will have some contract on their hands to convince me, and I will cheerfully travel a big distance for a chance to see that player when he appears. For if he's better than Ty Cobb, it will be worth all the exertion of along journey just to see him perform on a diamond. . . . It has always been a regret in my career that I never saw Hans Wagner play. generally conceded the greatest of shortstops, he must have been a wonder. But I know of him only through hearsay.

(Collins, continued, Baseball Magazine, March, 1924, pp. 435-436, 16 Years As A Big League Star, by Eddie Collins, 435-437, 468)1962 - Barbara Tyler was private secretary to Collins for many years. According to Miss Tyler, Collins never talked in glowing terms about any other player the way he did about Ty. "If you ever wanted Mr. Collins to extol the virtues of a great ballplayer, " Miss Tyler stated, "all you had to mention was Ty's name. Then Mr. Collins would go on for hours telling about the greatest player who ever lived." (Sporting News, January 3, 1962, pp. 17, column 5)

1942 - "I naturally appreciate all the nice things Ty has said about me being the 'greatest hitter in baseball," but that is one time the Georgia Peach is wrong.The greatest hitter and the greatest player I ever saw was one Tyrus Raymond Cobb." (Sporting News, Sept. 24, 1942, pp. 8, column 7)1961,July - "One of the greatest of all ball players, but not the greatest. I put him on the same level with Honus Wagner. We always got along well, despite what people said. We were friends." "I regarded Cobb on a level with Honus Wagner as perhapsthe greatest of all time, but would not pick Ty individually as the better of the two."

to get along with. He wasn't a friendly, good-natured guy, like Wagner was, or Walter Johnson, or Babe Ruth. ... Well, who knows, maybe if he hadn't had that persecution complex, he never would have been the great ballplayer that he was. He was always trying to prove he was the best, on the field and off. And maybe he was, at that." (The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence S. Ritter, March 27 & Aug.1, 1964, audio tapes, also pp. 59, 61 of book.1951 - "I never get tired of talking about him," he said. "He was the greatest player I ever saw. He'd drag a bunt or push a bunt or drive a ball through the mound so that your life was never completely safe at any time. I had a little trouble with

him occasionally, but we were too busy trying to win to have any other problems." (Sporting News, May 23, 1951, pp. 7, column 4 & 5)1961 - "The best baseball player in the world has died. It is too bad for the profession that he had to leave us so that the young players coming up won't get to know him. He was a fighter till the last." (Cleveland Plain Dealer, July 18, 1961, pp. 26)1925 - Before Cobb had eye surgery to remove a filmy growth from his eyes in early March, 1926, Cobb had complained during the '26 season that he had had trouble following the ball. To which Bob (Lefty) Grove had this to say. "And he says he's going blind. There's nobody in the league I hate to pitch to more." (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 361)1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint ofdrawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why" 1971 - "If they ask, he'll tell them about Ty Cobb ("the greatest and the meanest ballplayer who ever lived") (Sporting News, Feb. 20, 1971, pp. 46, column 4, by Jack Murphy)1942 - "He did everything perfectly." (Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

" 'Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player who ever pulled on a pair of shoes,' was the way Jimmy emphasized it. " 'I'm certainly not questioning Ruth's greatness. Babe had the glamour and he was good. However, there isn't a player who ever lived who could

match Cobb's greatness in so many departments. Name any phase of the game and you always end up agreeing that Cobb was the master. It adds up to greatness. The trouble with these polls is that too many of the voters never saw the men they were rating. I've been lucky in that respect. I started playing in the American League in 1916 and have remained in it--except for the two years I ran the Hollywood club." (Sporting News, March 1, 1950, pp. 14, column 3)1962 - "There is no question about the man's greatness, and that should be the end of it," Jimmie replied. ""I played with him and against him and had the greatest respect for the man on and off the field. . .Ty was distant off the field and there arethose who tend to degrade this type of person. But, that didn't bother Ty or detract from his great ability as a player. As for the charges that he deliberately spiked his opponents, it's hogwash. Ty was a hard competitor and all he asked for on theplaying field was what he was entitled to. If he knocked out a base-hit, he wanted a piece of that base to arrive safely. Naturally, if some clown was foolish enough to block the bag, he would have to suffer any consequences that might result."

1967 - "Picking the outfield is easy. In left, Ty Cobb, who knew every possible trick in the book that'd get him on and then show some new ones to us who got in his way. No one has yet surpassed Ty as a hitter and baserunner and no one ever will." ( YouCan't Steal First Base" by Jimmy Dykes, 1967, pp. 205, 209)

1976 - "But Cobb was the greatest all-around ballplayer of them all. I played against him for years." (The Man In the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 283)1925 - "I wasn't in the league when Cobb was at this best as a baser-runner. But I found him always dangerous once he reached first. If his legs had slowed up a bit, he headwork hadn't. He was the best slider in the league. I've never found a man harder to tag. I might not have looked as good at second if I'd been there whe the Georgian was in his prime as a base-runner. Cobb developed himself by hard work and using his brains. Men who knew him whem he was breaking in said he worked twice as

hard as any of the other Detriot players. He never loafed. His energy was amazing. He was the finished product long before I entered the league. He had perfected himself in every detail. If you gave him half a chance he was sure to outguess you. He backed his natural speed with intelligent effort. Cobb was a self-made success if there ever was one. In my judgement he was the greatest of them all." (Los Angeles Times, Feb 2, 1925, pg. 10) By 1931, Bucky had swung to Babe as the greatest player ever.1933 - "The greatest baserunner I have ever seen and certainly the equal of any man as an all-round player, was Ty Cobb. He out-smarted 'em all." (Sporting News, Nov. 2, 1933, pp. 6, column 5)1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and hisweak arm, there was nothing like him in baseball--on the paths and hitting. (Sporting News, Oct. 24, 1940, pp. 5, column 6)1930 - "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)

1964 - "Cobb was great, there's no doubt about that; one of the greatest. But not the greatest. In my opinion, the greatest all-around player who ever lived was Honus Wagner. Cobb was a great ballplayer, no doubt about it. But he sure wasn't' easy

Roy Cannton, Los Angeles Mirror: "Jimmy Dykes, who played third base in the American League for 23 years, disagrees strongly with the recent poll that tabbed Babe Ruth as the greatest player of the half-century.

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1914 - "I have seen them all," said Bobbie Lowe, the veteran Boston and Detroit infielder, "but Cobb stands alone, the greatest of all time. I doubt if there will ever be another like him." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1914)1950 - "There have been luminaries at every position, but you can take it from me no matter what anybody else says, and a lot of them have had plenty to say, nobody ever came close to the all-round class of Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the greatest ball playerof his or any other man's time." (Sporting News, November 15, 1950, pp. 14, column 5)1917 - "There were great players when I broke into the game as a green youngster, great players who would rank with the best of today. But I must except Ty Cobb's name from that list. Cobb is the best ballplayer I ever saw. I will never admit that

baseball has seen his equal and I doubt if it does again within the experience of those now living. There are great ball players and then there is Ty Cobb." (Baseball Magazine, Feb., 1917, pp. 16, "The Oldest Player", pp. 15-16)1954 - By 1954, however, he had switched to Lajoie as best ever. "He still speaks of Napoleon Lajoie, his personal "greatest of the great," with the unaffected idolatry of a bat boy looking up at Babe Ruth. . . . We used to call Ty 'The Reb" and I was one of his warmest admirers. I won't say, however, that some of the boys, including Jimmy McAleer, felt the same. "Cobb's greatness? Well, with Ty baseball was more than a mental and physical test. It was an affair of the spirit and in the early days, when the Georgia Peach was burning up the league, so intense was his desire to win that in the heat of battle there were times, I believe, when he would have laid down his life for victory." It is the seeming lack of this all-out spirit in modernbaseball which gripes old-timers. And, loyal to his era and generation, Wallace feels the same. (Sporting News, March 31, 1954, pp. 16, column 4 & 5, Bobby Wallace Story, by Louis Lee Arms)1953 - "The Babe always fooled a lot of pitchers by missing a certain pitch and then lambasting one in the same spot the very next time," Faber said. "I never came back with one in the same place or the same speed if he missed the first time."That's why it's not hard for me to say that Ty Cobb was tougher to pitch to. He could do anything with that bad, and he couldn't be fooled. But even Cobb didn't give me as much trouble as Jack Barry, a .250 hitter, or Stuffy McInnis. "

1961 - "I'll bet I pitched 5 games against Cobb as long as we were together in the league. You could fool him, but you couldn't keep him fooled. I had fair luck pitching to him. . . . You had to keep an eye on him. . . I could strike him out, but hewas the greatest I ever pitched to; pitching to Babe Ruth was a cinch compared to pitching to Cobb. No one ever played harder than Cobb. He'd beat you himself after others had given up. He wasn't particularly popularwith the players. His aggressiveness was the reason for that. He was no angel to play against." (New York Times, July 17, 1961) (Subsequent research has shown that from 1914 - 28, Ty Cobb went 55 for 164 against Red Faber for a career .335 BA. Ty Cobb

1961 - "We've lost a lot of great ball players. Now, we've lost the greatest." (NY Times, July 17, 1961, pp. 21)"You can't take it away from him, though," Leifield said, "He was the greatest." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July, 1961, 'Greatest,' Says Leifield Of Cobb; Pruett recalls fanning Ty on 3 Pitches; by William J. McGoogan)

1917 - "To my mind Cobb's chief greatness lies not in fielding or even batting with all his wonderful record. I think his most conspicuous talent is his base running. This is never given the credit it deserves. You can learn nothing by saying thatCobb stole sixty bases and somebody else stole fifty. Cobb not only steals bases, he breaks up games by stealing bases. He smashes the defense of a club, gets the fielders up in the air and completely demoralizes the opposition. As a base runner he isin a class by himself and I don't believe baseball ever saw his close rival." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917, pp. 285-286, The Immense Value of Base Stealing by Ty Cobb)1958 - "But to my way of thinking, the majors have yet to come up with someone who can match Ty Cobb. Cobb was the greatest ball player I have

ever seen. Maybe he wasn't the greatest outfielder of all time--but how he could hit and run those bases. And what aggression!" (Sporting News, February 20, 1957, pp. 15, column 1 & 2)1963 - To Editor of The Sporting News: I am following with interest your stories on Ty Cobb. He used to visit me occasionally and was always friendly with me. . . He must have suffered intense pain near the end. Under these conditions we should not betoo critical of his actions during the last months of his life. I prefer to remember him as a great ball player and a fierce competitor, and later as a mellowed, friendly man. Harry Hooper, Capitola, Calif. (Sp. News, January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 3)1966 - Later, in a mid-60's interview with author Lawrence Ritter, Hooper had this to say in The Glory of their Times, 1966, pp. 131," That Willie Mays, he's one of the greatest center fielders who ever lived. You can go back as far as you want and nameall the great ones -- Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush, Max Carey, Earle Combs, Joe DiMaggio. I don't care who you name, Mays is just as good, maybe better. He's a throwback to the old days. A guy who can do everything, and plays like he loves it. 1920 - "Babe Ruth has hit me for one home run only. . . I think that Ruth has a weakness for the simple reason that I think every batter has a weakness. But I am frank to confess I don't know what it is. Ruth is an awful slugger. There is nobody likehim. But I have an automobile business in Augusta, Ga., about four blocks from where Ty Cobb hangs out, and if any one wants to tell me that a greater player than Cobb ever lived, he will have to start talking now and keep on until he has me hypnotized.Babe and Ty are not in the same class." (Baseball Magazine, Oct., 1920, pp. 530, column 1, "James Bagby, A Pitcher Who can Think", by F.C. Lane, pp. 529-530)1975 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer that ever lived, in my estimation. And I think any old ballplayer that played in those years would tell you the same thing. I don't think there's anybody that ever saw Cobb play in his heyday who wouldn't say, without a doubt: Cobb. If there'd been a higher league, he'd have been the only one in it. …I wouldn't say Cobb played dirty. Cobb always told me and other fellows he played against, "All you've got to do is give me room to get in there and it'll be

all right, but if you don't give me room, I'll cut my way in." Fair enough. He had no weaknesses….He just had it. Cobb never had very many friends, but he was a very good friend of mine…Ruth?…But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he wasa great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer….I played against Wagner a lot, too. We had quite a few little exhibition games, because they had their training camp at Hot Springs,Ark., in the same place as the Red Ox did, for years and years. They had their park and we had our park. I never had much trouble with old Honus, though I got him in his later years, when he had seen his best days. He used to stand away back in thebox, then step up in as he hit, and I usually had that ball by there before he got up.(Chuckle.) (Baseball Research Journal, 1987, #16, pp. 54)(This was a reproduced 1975 interview by Mark Alvarez)1979 - "Cobb, of course. Nobody who watched him play could ever forget it." 1984 - "He was the best ballplayer I ever saw. I always said if there was a league higher than the majors,Ty Cobb would be the only fellow in it." (Forgotten Fields, Paul Green, 1984, pp. 18)1912 - "I am not alone in this high opinion of Ty Cobb's work. This view of min, I believe, is shard by practically every other member of the National League. . . Cobb's marvelous showing as a batter is alone enough to insure his reputation for alltime. Add to this, however, his uncanny ability as a base runner--an ability in which he stands unequaled, his record-breaking feats as a run getter, his all-around brilliancy as a fielder, his quickness, dash and execution of daring feats almost

instantaneously, and they place him a little above and beyond the rank of any other player in the game to-day. But whether he improves or not in the next few seasons which are left him for active play, his career up to date clearly entitles him to thehonor of being considered the greatest player in the world of baseball. I believe no fair-minded critic will deny this statement. . . . but all sections and all cities, whether or not they agree on any other single topic in baseball, all agree in giving Cobb credit for standing without a peer. He is the universal comparison of the highest ability. It is the greatest praise which can be given a coming star to say that he is a second Ty Cobb. Cobb is the model, the perfect stamp of the truly great ball

player. But when all allowance has been made for the changes in the National game, and the different style of play, I am confident that Cobb would be almost universally considered unrivaled in past or present. I know it may seem like exaggeratedpraise from a player of another club and league. I believe that the vast majority of players, critics and fans will agree that Cobb is the wizard of the diamond, whose like the game has never seen. But whether they do agree or not, my own opinion isfixed. and that opinion, briefly stated, is that Ty Cobb of the Detroit Tigers is the greatest player baseball has ever known. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 13, "Ty Cob, from the Point of View of a National Leaguerby John J. Evers)1916 - John Evers is the smartest player in the National League, bar none. Let us hear what the inimitable John has to say: "I have seen considerable baseball in my time, and some people might think I would get tired of it. But I would pay my littledollar any time and sit in the grand stand or the bleachers, or anywhere else, for a chance to see Cobb play. There's only one Cobb, and there's nobody like him. There never was, and there never will be, in my opinion. That's what I think of Ty Cobb.Cobb would put the punch in any team. But with two redoubtable associates who uphold his right hand and his left, he makes of the Detroit trio a thing incomparable, supreme, by a wide margin the greatest outfield in the land."

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(Baseball Magazine, July, 1916, pp. 69) (The reference to "2 redoubtable associates" obviously referred to Sam Crawford & Bobby Veach)1920 - The principal difference, as I see it, is that the National League leads by a mile in pitchers and the American leads by the same distance in outfielders. Cobb is still king and a mighty fine fellow. My friendship for him dates back to theDetroit-Cub World's Series and right there I want to spike an old and musty rumor. Lots of people claim Cobb didn't play much of a game against us in those world's series. I will go on record as saying that he played a whale of a game, but he had mightystiff opposition. We were all laying for him, and when a team like the Cubs lays for a certain player that player has his work cut out for him. In the wrestling match between the whole Cub team and Cobb the odds were a little too long on the team and

against the individual. But Cobb surprised us all by his gameness and nerve, and he was a good loser. I expected to find him a little swell-headed - I would have forgiven him for being so, for he had a right to be if any player ever had - but he wasn'tanything of the sort. He proved himself to be not only a wonderful player but a good loser, and that's something more." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1920, pp. 526, column 3, "On the Outside, Looking In", from interview with John Evers, pp. 525-526). April, 1930, Baseball Magazine, Evers switched to Wagner as #1.1984 - "He was the greatest ballplayer I ever played with or against. Of course you couldn't compare he and Babe Ruth because they were different types of ballplayers. Ty was a great player, anyone who could hit over .360 for a whole career, that'ssomething. I remember Babe could really hit too, I had a pretty good year one year, and Babe still hit a little more than I did. (Forgotten Fields, by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 85)1942 - "You never knew what he was going to do next." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

good as he is he would beat me out, for he has much more experience than I have, so these fake claims are ridiculous. . . . "Why shouldn't I become a great player if I am lucky? That is my ambition; I admit it and I will try as hard as I can to equal Ty Cobb or anyone else. But I know that I have a long way to go first, and, of course, I may never realize my ambition." (Los Angeles Times, April 18, 1916, pp. III4, "BENNIE KAUFF TELLS HIS OWN STORY OF "HOLDOUT."1922 - "Nick disagrees with his famous co-worker, Ed Walsh, that Nap Lajoie was the greatest batsman of his time. Nick is inclined to hand the palm to Ty Cobb. "It made no difference where I put the ball, Ty Cobb would kill it. When he failed to get

three or four hits off me I figured I was pitching invincible ball. Larry, the records will show, was not tough for me to handle. Of course he smacked my delivery hard at times, but as a general proposition I think I had it on him."(Sp. News, Jan. 7,1922)1942 - "His never-say-die spirit and his nerve predominated." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1918 - "Mind, I am not criticising Cobb in any way. Cobb's batting is phenomenal, and as a base runner he has no known equal. And he may have all the baseball brains in the world. In fact, I am inclined to believe he has. But his batting and hisbase running are largely types of mechanical abilitt in which I would say he is unrivalled." (Baseball Magazine, January, 1918, pp. 305, "Baseball Brains", by Lee Fohl, pp. 280, 304, 305)1926 - "Take the case of Ty Cobb as a good illustration. Ty was fast. That was always a thing in his favor. He could never have become what he has become If it were not for his speed. But there have been other players who were fast, as fast asCobb, but they didn't develop into Cobbs. What happened in Ty's case was this. He had uncommon natural gifts. Make no mistake on that point. But he also had the ambition to do a little better than the next fellow. And that ambition, in his case, has been the driving force which has urged him on full speed for more than twenty years and gained for him a player reputation which has not been matched. That secret force, in my opinion, is the true explanation of Cobb's great work. It was the real

reason why he grew better as he went along. Good as he was, he wasn't satisfied to stand still. He was always trying to improve, to do better work than he had ever done before." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 208, How Psychology May Make or break ) (Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 298, column 3, "How Psychology May Make or Break a Pennant Winner", by Lee Fohl, pp. 298, 335 )1928 - "Why is Ty Cobb called the greatest player who ever lived? There are a number of answers. His grand batting average is better than that of any other player. He hit over .300 for twenty-two years, a record. He made over four thousand hits. These and similar items of statistics come readily to any fan who is discussing the game's best. But such figures are plain dope. Was Cobb a better hitter than Joe Jackson? He himself has admitted that Rogers Hornsby was the greatest hitter he ever saw.Was Cobb a better player, say, than Tris Speaker? What is the foundation of Cobb's great reputation? It's the dope. I'm not offering any criticism of dope. I understand too well the value of dope to the ball player. It's really his stock in trade,the gauge of his ability." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1928, pp. 387, column 1, "What the Baseball Records Mean to the Player", from an interview with Willie Kamm, pp. 387-388, 421-422)1927 - "When a reporter interrupted to ask whether Cobb had got any of the money, Risberg replied that he doubted it, adding, "There never was a better or straighter baseball player than Cobb, or Speaker, either, to my way of thinking."(Risberg, continued), (Ty Cobb by Charles C. Alexander, 1984, pp. 192) (quote given on Jan. 1,1927)1942 - "Cobb's base-running and all-round ability match Ruth's slugging." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1942 - "He was good in the pinch. He could do everything but throw." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

1942 - "He was quick on the trigger and ten jumps ahead of you." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1957 - "Only a man who played against him could appreciate his greatness. Sure, I had some run-ins with him. What infielder didn't? But he made a better player out of me. You had to play your level-best against him." (Sporting News, April 3, 1957, pp. 4, column 3)1984 - "Cobb was a phenomenal ballplayer. . .A tough competitor is right. . . . He was just a magician, that's what he was , and he played on your nerves, too. (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 96)1942 - "He was a combination of everything." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1974 - "I saw quite a bit of Cobb. I'd say he was probably the greatest all-around batter. He could hit the ball anywhere he wanted to, and he'd hit it wherever you pitched it. And he had so many gimmicks. In the spring he'd wear a long-sleeveshirt down to his wrists, and if you pitched a ball inside to him, he'd contrive to have it hit that baggy sleeve and he'd get on first base. In a close ball game I tried to keep it away from him, not give him a chance to do that to me, because he was a streak on those bases. He could upset a whole ball club. . .I try to keep up with baseball today as much as I can. I watch it on television, and I read The Sporting News. Sure I still read The Sporting News. . .about 1914 or so. And I haven't missed

an issue of The Sporting News since." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 117, 125)1984 - "Sure he would, he'd use everything. He was the best at hitting the ball where he wanted to hit it. He was a kind of different man after he got out of baseball. He never did have many friends, but when he got out actively he had a good many friends. I don't think you should hold being aggressive against a fellow, I think you ought to give him a big hand. A lot of them you'd like to give a boot and tell them to get a little more aggressive. Paul Green: It's strange, I know Joe Wood really liked him. Ted Lyons: I did too. Paul Green: But to read the stories you'd assume he didn't have a friend in the world. Ted Lyons: Well, he was a different man when he'd put the suit on. He was like Johnny Evers, when he put that uniform on he was a wild man. (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 114)1985 - "When Cobb was through as a player, he was a wonderful guy to visit with. I remember coming back from a trip to Japan with Moe Berg and Lefty O'Doul. Cobb was waiting to meet somebody, and said, "Let's talk baseball.' And so we did, for 30

KAUFF SAYS COBB IS BEST. "These claims that I would beat out Ty Cobb are bunk. I have been quoted as saying so a good many times. But I am willing to admit that Ty Cob is the greatest player on the diamond by a long shot. Even if I was as

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minutes. When he had the uniform on, he was like Johnny Evers, who was a maniac on the field. You hear a lot about Cobb being like that, but Evers was even worse." (Baseball Digest, August, 1985, Hostile Side of Ty Cobb Still Lingers in Memory by John

1931 - "Ty Cobb was always my model of a ballplayer. He played the outfield. I think he was the greatest ballplayer who ever lived, far ahead of the Babe Ruths and the Lou Gehrigs and all the others. But what made him a great ballplayer? "Speed, you say. That was part of it. But other players have been as fast. Ability to hit never carried him there. Other players were better natural hitters. And you can make up a pretty long list of better fielders. But when you've got through, you'll find

only one Cobb. And the thing that made him great, that explained his success, was a belly full of guts. Cobb was a born fighter. He fought opposing pitchers, and infielders and coaches. He fought his own teammates. He fought everybody and he madegood. That's what the public admires, a fighter. I may not have used good horse sense in some of my actions since I put on a baseball uniform. But at least I've tried to show that I wasn't weak in the midrif. I prefer to have people criticize my head any day rather than my midriff. And that's true not only of baseball but of anything else. I realize my limitations, but I'll fight anybody, any time for a chance to make good." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1931, pp. 400, "Art Shires, Publicity Getter Extraordinary", by F.C. Lane )1938-43 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest all-around player. . . Babe Ruth revolutionized the game by starting the home run craze." (Abington Journal (Ohio), 1938-43)1913 - "Cobb is the greatest player in the history of the game--the perfect ball player. Other men have been great fielders, great batters, great base runners. Sometimes a great fielder has been a great batter as well, or a great base runner, or agreat base runner has been a great batter, but Cobb is all of these things. He can do everything as well as anybody ever did anything in the history of the game. Cobb brings out the crowds. I suppose he boosts the attendance figures by 5,000 at least.The old fans want to compare him with the old players, and the new fans can't keep their eyes off him. Cobb has quickened the game--no doubt about that. They are all playing faster since he came."

(Baseball Magazine, January, 1913, pp. 92, "Great Players Make Great Teams, by Jimmy McAleer, pp. 92)1950 - "Ty Cob was the greatest player during the first half of the century, according to Manager Burt Shotton of the Dodgers, who disagrees with the sportswriters, who gave the honor to Babe Ruth. I saw them both in their prime," explained Shotton, "and while Ruth may be the sentimental favorite, nobody comes close to Cobb in my book. Cobb couldn't hit home runs like Ruth and the Babe won a lot of games, with his blows, but nobody won as many games, all by himself, as Cobb did. . . . Yes, there was

nobody like old Tyrus Raymond Cobb!" (Sporting News, April 5, 1950, pp. 4, column 1)1950 - "Why don't they ask those who saw both Ruth and Cobb in their prime which is the better player?" Shotton wanted to know. "Why don't they ask me? I played against both," he went on, "and to me there was none that ever came close to Cobb. Anybody who played against him would tell you there never was a player like Cobb. , , ,I bet Cobb could beat you more times than Ruth and in more ways," he said, "There wasn't a thing that Ty couldn't do. He hit over .400 three times. He once stole 96bases in a season. He collected over 4,000 hits and scored more than 2,000 runs. Sure, Ruth was a great home run hitter," Shotton conceded, "but they had to change the game for him. They made over the ball. They even built a ball park to suit him."Shotton said he always got along well with Cobb, despite Ty's fiery reputation. "I just never spoke to him," Burt grinned. "Cobb wasn't the fastest runner, but he led the league in stolen bases nearly every year. He wasn't the most powerful hitter, buthe led the league in home runs once and in total bases many times. He wasn't the greatest outfielder, but he had more assists than anybody else. And tell me who was nervier, who took more chances, and who took better advantage of an enemy slip?Yes, son, there was nobody like Cobb. And there will never be anybody like him." (Dallas, Texas, April 6, (AP)1950) This sidebar appeared soon after the Associated Press poll, in which the sports writers voted Ruth 1, Cobb 2. Most never saw either play.1962 - "Let me tell you about Cobb," he began in that raspy, peremptory voice. Instatly he made his position clear. "I've been in baseball fifty-three years and have yet to see Cobb's equal."

(NY Times, "? 13, 1962, pp. 43, "Sports of the Times", by Arthur Daley)1962 - "Ty came into my restaurant for several years before he passed away and I could see what kind of a man he was when not in uniform. A wonderful and kind guy. I believe anything written about him being a bad individual was due to the fact that asa ball player, he was a great competitor and therefore he made enemies because he would beat you by outsmarting you at the bat and especially on the bases. He was fiery and mean when playing and that meant from the time he walked on the field until the game was over. He attracted so much attention from the ball players and the fans that they picked on him for the least little flaw they could find, whether it was personal or in his playing. He was the only player I ever knew who dominated a game fromthe start to the finish. He wanted to be the best on and off the field and by being that way he made enemies on the way through life. . . . There were some great ball players in his time and some great ones since, but in my book he was the greatest and he will remain that way long after these false statements made about him have been found groundless." (Sporting News, Jan. 24, 1962, pp. 12, column 1)1966 - "All in all, I have been a part of baseball for 55 years. I've seen the greatest and played with and against the greatest. None could come close to comparing with Ty Cobb. He was the smartest and most daring in addition to having unequaledability as a hitter and baserunner. With Cobb it was not only what he did but how he did it. He is the only ballplayer I ever saw who dominated a game as soon as he walked on the field. No one reacted to a challenge with more zest, intensity, andeffectiveness than Cobb. . . It's too bad that the present generation never had the chance to see him play as I did as a fan, pitcher and coach. . .Cobb had it all. I agree that Wagner was great. But the greatest ballplayer ever to step on a diamond wasTyrus Raymond Cobb. (New York Times, Jan. 28, 1966, pp. 24, "In Total Dissent", by Arthur Daley)

1944 - "He was the No. 1 ball player of his time, and still is No. 1 in my book. . . . I can't rate the Babe over Ty. Ruth could hit home runs, but Cobb was superlative, doing anything else on a ball field. And that man Lajoie was the greatest machineyet seen around second base. He was a marvel afield and at bat." (Sporting News, January 27, 1944, pp. 5, column 2)1967 - "You and I and everyone else who saw him play know he was the greatest. He was daring, alert and had tremendous reflexes," said Joe. (Sporting News, January 28, 1967, pp. 23, column 3)

1990 - "Cobb was the greatest player of all time, but he was jealous of anybody hitting better than he did." (Oral History of the AL, 1920-1940, by Eugene Murdock, 1991. pp. 164)1991 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest ball-player I ever saw," Hoff once said. "He could do everything. He was better than Ruth, if you ask me." (NY Times, September 24, 1998, obituaries)1991 - "The greatest hitter of all time was Ty Cobb," Hoff affirms without reservation. (Oldtyme, Baseball News, Volume III, Issue 1, pp. 17, column 3, by James A. Riley & Renwick W. Speer)1961 - "Nap Rucker, former major league mound star, discussing ball players of the past and present, recently said: "Fellows like Ty Cobb, Hans Wagner and Joe Jackson were just as great as reports said they were. They had to be great to do with the

ball what they did. Cobb was the greatest of them all. I never saw another man with the determination he had. That's what made him --determination. I could outrun him on a straight-away and he wasn't a natural hitter. He just made himself good." (Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 13, column 3)1916 - "Billy Hamilton was a wonderful baserunner," says Callahan. "there is no mistake about that. But if he had played last year and stole 96 bases, as Cobb did, I would say he had beaten his old mark of 156 so far as real merit is concerned. I

remember on the old Phillies the rule used to be with Hamilton at the plate. 'Don't hit until he's stolen third.' How far would such a rule go nowadays. It wasn't so difficult then as now to steal a base for various reasons. On the other hand, if the Tigers had built their system of attack around Cobb's speed he would have stolen quite a few beyond the hundred mark last year. The two records are not to be compared because they were made under entirely different conditions Furthermore, Hamilton was

"Bill Lange was a better fielder than Ty Cobb. And he was one grand ball player. But when you compare him with Ty Cobb, in my mind, you are committing a bad bone. They don't compare that's all. You could go into a grand stand wherever the Tigers are playing and you wouldn't have to know any of the players or the batting order. But after you had seen a game you would be able to pick Cobb out from the other Tigers solely on his remarkable personality. If he had a medium day at the bat oron the base paths you would know who Cobb was all right, for you would see him accomplish things that other players don't accomplish, that's all. In my opinion Cobb is the greatest player who has ever lived by a considerable margin. . . . I have seen

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many outfielders, past and present, and to my mind Tris speaker is the greatest player at the position I have ever met." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1916, pp. 53, "Callahan, the Cast Off Manager", by John J. Ward, pp. 53-58)1925 - On August 29,1925, the city of Detroit celebrated the 20th anniversary of Ty Cobb's career as a Detroit baseball player with a testimonial dinner at the Book-Castillar Hotel. Ty was eulogized as "the greatest player who ever lived," by Ban Johnson, Connie Mack, Billy Evans, Frank J. Navin, Jimmy Callahan, Mayor John W. Smith, Arthur (Bugs) Baer. (Reach AL Guide, Feb.,1926, pp. 44)1932 - "I shall always treasure the friendship of Ty Cobb. Hailed as the greatest player of his time. . . "Cobb was, without doubt, the most versatile batter the game has ever know. . . Two experiences with Cobb I shall always remember. Once, when in

the throes of a terrible batting slump , I asked him to give me a few pointers. He was very sympathetic, and although he was the manager of the Tigers at the time, he took great pains to coach me in a better batting stance. When I connected for two hitsduring the game he was as happy as I was and congratulated me on my success." (Sporting News, February 4, 1932, pp. 4, column 6, Character Sketches by William Wambsganss)1966 - Who's the best player he's ever seen? "I believe Babe Ruth had the most natural ability of anyone, by far. But Cobb made himself a better player than Ruth because of his intense determination, concentration and practice. Nobody compares with him in those qualities." (Sporting News, January 22, 1966, pp. 10, column 3)1985 - "He could do things with a bat that nobody could do, including Rose, and that's a cinch. People thought he was nasty, but the way I saw it, Cobb just wanted to win. He was very proud and intense, the same as Rose. Cobb felt the base lines werehis, so if you got spiked, it was your fault because you were in his way." Despite Wamby's respect for Cobb, the first player he'd pick on his all-time team would be Babe Ruth. "Cobb would be second and Tris Speaker or Joe Jackson would be third. Rose would have to beat out George Sisler to be my first baseman and I don't think he could," said Wamby, who lives in Lakewood, O., a suburb of Cleveland, and is looking forward to celebrating his 92nd birthday on March 19. . .(Sporting News, Oct. 14, 1985, pp. 9, column 1)

? - Wamby admits "Cobb was the toughest man to tag I ever played against. His feet always came flying at you and the only way to get him and not get cut up was to touch some part of his body other than his legs." This didn't prevent Wamby from

1934 - Maul declares that Ty Cobb is the greatest player he ever saw. . . (Sporting News, August 30, 1934, pp. 4, column 3)

1948 - "This is a story of Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player of all time--and Cy Perkins, one of the finest receivers of his day, who now coaches the Phillies. Cobb and Perkins became fast friends in later years. Ty took a fancy to the young, slim, quiet catcher--made him a companion. They dined together, chinned together around the batting cage. One day, Lefty Grove was throwing in batting practice for the Athletics. "You think Ruth is a great home run hitter, don't you?" asked Cobb, then nearing the end of his career. Perkins nodded. "The greatest I ever saw," he replied. Cobb picked out a bat. "Watch me," he said as he stepped to the plate. He hitGrove's first pitch over the right field wall, his second into Twentieth st., his third onto the rooftops, and his fourth bouncing into the streets beyond the roofs. Ty turned around grinning, then shook his head. "But that's not for Cobb. This is Cobb," he said, and shortened his grip on the bat. He hit four in succession on a line over third base. (Sporting News, May 5, 1948, pp. 12, column 3)

1943 - Lefty George regards Ty Cobb as the greatest player who ever lived. (Sporting News, July 22, 1943, pp. 5, column 3 & 4)1965 - "I guess when you talk about the greatest baseball player who ever lived it has to be either the Babe, Ty Cobb, or Honus Wagner. I didn't see much of Wagner, 'cause he was in the National League, but I played for years against both Cobb and Ruth,

and I'd hate to have to choose between them. Golly, both of those guys could beat you in so many ways it wasn't funny. Ty could get real nasty on the field, you know, Off the field, though, he was a pretty good guy. . . . Ty was fair enough on the bases, though. He nicked me a couple of times, but it was my fault. I don't blame him. . . . When Cobb was out there on that ball field, look out. He wasn't anybody's friend then. He was out to win, regardless. But I got along with him all right off the field. He was a better guy off the field than he was on. (The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence S. Ritter, 1965, pp. 81-82)"In my book, there were two great ballplayers, Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb. They were the two greatest of all-time. Ruth had color. Cobb was spectacular. Everything he did was spectacular. . . When I played for the A's, Connie Mack always had pre-gamemeetings. He would get up and say, 'Today, we're playing Ty Cobb.' He would never say, 'The Detroit Tigers,' it was always 'Ty Cobb.' . . In Witt's last year with the Yankees, the club had a rookie first baseman named Lou Gehrig. Whitney has vivid memories of the young slugger. "To me, he was more valuable to the ball club than Ruth because he was very consistent," Witt says. "He never struck out, and he could drive in runs. He always got the bat on the ball. Whitey Witt was obviously confused in his opinions. While saying Ruth & Cobb were the two greatest ever, he says he felt Gehrig was more valuable to the team than Ruth. And in the '80's he leaves Cobb off his all-time team. 1923 - "I should like to have pitched in the American League when Ty was in his prime. He would have given me something to think about, But that's what I like. He was a great player in every way, and it will be a long time before they discoveranother Ty, and I don't say that because he comes from my home state, Georgia, either. Babe Ruth is one of the best ball players I ever saw, and by that I don't mean just a good slugger. Babe's a real ball player. He has the best throwing arm in any outfield barring none. Bob Meusel may have naturally a better arm, but not much. Anyway, Babe uses his arm to better advantage. And he plays the pitchers pretty well too. And he throws to the right base. Babe looks lumbering and slow, but he isn't.

He's pretty fast and he knows how to run bases. If he had more speed he would be a great base runner. With all my respect for Babe Ruth's ability as a hitter, I consider Hornsby his superior. You can fool Babe some times and make him look foolish, butyou can't fool Hornsby on anything. Hornsby isn't so apt to hit a homer as Ruth, for that isn't his style. But he's even more apt to come through with a single or a double. Ruth chops up and lofts the ball. Hornsby hits it smack on the nose anddrives it on a line. With the possible exception of Hans Wagner, Hornsby is the greatest batter I ever looked at and he's a great fielder, but he's not a great base stealer. He's fast, one of the fastest men in baseball and he can tear around the bases on a safe drive, but he isn't a natural base stealer and he hasn't learned the tricks of getting the jump on the pitcher." (Baseball Magazine, October, 1923, pp. 519, "The Science of Holding Down the Base Runners, from interview with Sherrod Smith, pp. 389-390, 517, 519-520)1942 - "One of the most marvelous baseball machines I have ever seen. I never expect to see his equal." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?1942 - "He was the greatest competitor who ever lived."

The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He not alone had natural ability, but baseball brains and the incentive to win."(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He could run, field, throw, hit and think faster than anybody else, and that's about all a ball player needs to have to be great." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He was tough to pitch to. I don't think any pitcher ever found a successful way to pitch to him. I know that I didn't."(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

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1942 - "He outguessed the other fellows all the time. There will never be another Cobb."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He loved to play baseball for all he was worth every second of the game, regardless of the score. He was very fast and very smart."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "I was only a kid when I came up with the White Sox, and here is what I heard at one of the first players' meetings I ever attended: Leave the Georgia Peach alone. Don't ride him or he'll beat you single-handed." And maybe you don't think thathe couldn't!" (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He appeared to be head and shoulders over anyone else."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "He was a quick thinker, which enabled him to do things at an advantage."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "I never saw his equal in any department of baseball."

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1931 - Bill McKechnie, manager of the Braves, strung along with McGraw on Wagner as the greatest of them all. McKechnie, one-time Pirate infielder, piloted Pittsburgh to a pennant in 1925 and won another gonfalon for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1922.Oddly enough, neither club retained him for long after his success. "I don't see how a National Leaguer could pick any one but old Honus Wagner as the best that ever lived," said McKechnie. . ."I played in the infield with him for six or seven years and

will pay him the splendid tribute of saying I never saw him make a mental error. He made "boots," of course. Every ball player makes fielding errors. But Honus always threw to the right base: he always did the correct thing at the proper moments. As to physical ability, he was a marvelous fielder, the hardest-hitting shortstop in history and a splendid baserunner. . . "Cobb gets second place. really, I think those two stand by themselves for this century, at least. speaker didn't have theSpeaker didn't have the natural speed of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on fly ballsof Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on that are too close to the infield for outfielders to get. I have been astonished at Hornsby's inability to overcome this weakness during his many years in the majors. It is hard to choose between Hornsby and Ruth, but I'll give it to Hornsby."(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)1942 - "He could do everything a little better than the rest of the herd. He had color and the will to win. And he would chase half of the present-day players out of the park with his spikes today. He could dish it out and he could take it." (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1964 - "Cobb. He did everything. . . He drove infielders crazy. They never knew what the hell he was going to do. And neither did he till that last split second. You couldn't try to figure Cobb. It was impossible. Cobb could hit the long ball. I

about that. He roomed alone. He didn't care about whether they liked him or not. They made it pretty tough on him his first year up there, and he showed them. They may not liked him but they admired him. (Must have been an amazing ballplayer.)Well, wasn't any like him. He's alone. ( Interviewed by Lawrence Ritter, August 26, 1964, for the book, The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Ritter, 1966, pp. 166-167.) This transcript is taken from the audio tapes of those interviews.)1961 - "I believe Cobb is the all-time great. Excellence in baseball cannot be explained by mechanics or mathematics, as managers and broadcasters do today. It is reaction, and Cobb had the fastest reflexes of any human being I ever encountered.Mays comes close but there will never be another Ty -- he could beat you by himself." (San Francisco Chronicle, July 20, 1961, Column by Art Rosenbaum, "He Would Rather Die Than Lose.")1931 - So, McGraw's vote is for Wagner, Anson's was for Cobb and Comiskey's was, and is, for the Peach. (Sporting News, March 19, 1931, pp. 4, By Ernie Lanigan)1934 - Tyrus Raymond subsequently was acclaimed by Old Roman Comiskey and Adrian C. Anson as greatest players of all time. (Sporting News, January 11, 1934, pp. 6, column 5-6, "Daguerreotypes")1953 - Declaring he was feeling fine and also "lucky" to reach such an age, Lanigan recalled that both Cap Anson and Charley (Old Roman)Comiskey had selected Cobb years ago as the game's brightest star(Sporting News, January 14, 1953, pp. 7, column 4 & 5)1969 - "While DiMaggio would not name a full All-Time team, he did single out certain players. He picked Charlie Gehringer who played for Detroit, as his second baseman; Pie Traynor, Pittsburgh, third base, and Honus Wagner, Pittsburgh, at shortstop.

DiMaggio said it was "just too much" when he looked at the outfielder list but he did murmur in an aside: "Ty Cobb has to be on any All-Time team, and he has to get a shot as the greatest player ever. . . "I guess," said DiMaggio, "That I'd have to goalong with Lefty Grove as the best southpaw and Walter Johnson as the best right-hander. But I don't envy anybody the job of picking the greatest player." How about Joe DiMaggio? he was asked. "You're too kind", said Oakland coach.(Washington Post, June 14, 1969, pp. D3, "Star Picking Tough Play for DiMaggio", Bob Addie's Column)1986 - In 1986, Eugene V. McCaffrey & Roger A. McCaffrey published "Players Choice". This great book asks many great questions. Luke answers 3 of them thusly: Best base stealer of all Time: Ty Cobb; Hitter you found hardest to get out: Ty Cobb; Ball Player Who Did The Most To Inspire His Team: Ty Cobb ( pp. 150)

1931 - Gabby Street, one-time battery mate of Walter Johnson at Washington and now manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, 1930 champions of the National League, was the fifth man to name Cobb for first honors. "I spent seven years in theAmerican League and two in the National and Cobb is my pick, without question," he said. "Cobb had a ninety-horsepower brain, which, in my opinion, was his greatest asset. He always thought a fraction of a second faster than any one else and, therefore,

was always ahead of the game. Modern fans who saw him only in the closing days of his career can't appreciate him. "I'll give old Honus second place and Eddie Collins third. Freddy Parent, Boston Red Sox infielder, wasn't a spectacular player, but he's my fourth choice. And I can't leave out Hal Chase. He could do everything," concluded Street.(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)

1942 - "I have yet to see anybody else who could do the things that he used to do."(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why? 1931 - "All right then. If that's the way you feel about it, go ahead and name Ty Cobb as the best of them all," replied Uncle Robbie. "I didn't see him play much because he was in the other league, butfrom what I did see and from what I've heard from others who do know ball players when they see them, Cobb deserves first place. Put Willie Keeler in there next to Ty. Willie was a great all-round ball player and the best place hitter the game ever knew."(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)1942 - "Maybe he didn't have the best disposition in the world, but all great ball players are afflicted with crabbiness, I think."

I never saw anybody like him. Cobb had that terrific fire, that terrific drive, It was his base, It was his game. Everything was his. He dominated the game. I never saw a fella like that. (He wasn't too well liked, was he?) No! But he didn't care

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(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He could do everything asked of a ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

? - "Steve O'Neil, George Uhle and Will Wamby, all members of the 1920 world champion Cleveland Indians--and therefore opponents of Cobb--still speak with a sort of reverence about the Georgia Peach. "Oh, he was a great one", said O'Neil, the tribecatcher. "He was the toughest man a catcher ever had to work behind. When he was up there you worried about the bunt. When he was on base you worried about him stealing. He worried me more than any other runner I ever played against." O'Neil admits. Cobb "stole a few bases on me, and I got him a few times, but he was tough to nail. He was fast and got a good jump and he always came in spikes high. Our infielders didn't want any part of those spikes and they gave him too much of the base. Ty could dish it out, but he could take it, too. Once he came home on a base hit and I was blocking the plate. I got him in the kidneys and knocked him out. When he came to he didn't say a word. He just got up and limped out to his position in center."1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1944 - "You never saw Johnson at his best unless you watched him pitching to Ty Cobb. There was really a contest, the greatest hitter in the business against the greatest pitcher. Johnson had all the best of it, too. but Cobb never would admit it."(Sporting News, April 13, 1944, pp. 17, column 4 & 5, Inside Pitches by Galleyproof Gus, as reported by Ed McAuley of the Cleveland News)

1962 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that.

And no amount of wild stories now will ever dim his fame." (Baker, continued), (Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 4, column 5)1949 - "The greatest by a wide margin," says Zimmer, "was Ty Cobb. He was so good he was a freak." (Sporting News, Jan. 12, 1949, pp. 11, column 3)1926 - Our talk had rambled, then I thought, wonder who he considers the greatest ball player of all time. "Ty Cobb," was the instantaneous reply to my question, "There is only one Ty Cobb, and there will never be but one. I take my hat off to him." Baseball's greatest catcher had paid a noble tribute to baseball's greatest player. "And," he went on, "I think that Walter Johnson is the greatest pitcher, and Eddie Collins the smartest man in the game. Get those three on a team, and it'll be a `wow'.(Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 316, column 3, "How Ray Schalk Got His Start", by Stanley E. Kalish, pp. 315-316)"Ty Cobb has the ideal baseball brains. . . . Hal Chase and Ty Cobb are scintillating examples of quick thought on the diamond." (Baseball Magazine, Interv. with Ray Schalk, pp. 152) 1964 - "For all-around, I've got to choose Cobb," said Ray Schalk, long-time star catcher of the Chicago White Sox. "Speaker, Felsch, Mostil, Rice and DiMaggio were great, but the greatest of them all in all departments has got to be Ty, in my book." (Sport, August, 1964, by Joe Reichler, Living Hall of Famers Pick The Greatest Centerfielder Ever)

1969 - "Ray Schalk agreed with Frisch. I can't pick between them," the all time catcher said. "I admired them both and each was my friend. Ruth put me on his all-time team. I spent a lot of time with Cobb in later years. but I will say this: I caught behind them both and they made a better catcher of me. I had to work harder to get them out." (Baseball Digest, November, 1969, pp. 20-24, by Ed Rumill of the Christian Science Monitor, Hall of Famers Pay Tribute to the Mighty Babe)So, after a lifetime of unconditional, pristine support for Ty as the best ever, at the end of his life, Ray sullied his unqualified support, by claiming he couldn't choose between Ty & Babe. 1931 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblycould help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is thetip-off on how he registered with me." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, "They Had Their Heroes, Too", by Frank Graham) (This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, Jan. 2, 1932)1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

Some of Ty's support amongst the Sports Writers, all of whom support him as the Greatest Ballplayer Ever.1924 - "By the way, Ty Cobb is out with the statement that he will quit active work after this year and confine himself to bench managing, if "he can find a man to take this place in the Detroit outfield." This qualification is super-important, as itis decisive, because Detroit never will find another man to take the place of the game's greatest player in all departments of play. Cobb is now in his twentieth year of service with Detroit, and in batting, fielding and base running shows so littlerecession from his prime that he is out this season to beat Willie Keeler's long-standing major league record of 200 hits in a season for ten consecutive years, with easy chances of surpassing that record this year. Despite his long term of service wefeel confident that Cobb will be able to serve Detroit for two or three years more as player-extraordinary, as team management seems to have no adverse effect on his playing. If he can play three more years Cobb will surpass all players, ancient and

modern, in length of service, surpassing Captain Anson's 22-year record of much less strenuous playing; and Cobb will then be the greatest player the game has yet produced in all respects, not excluding length of service. (Sporting News, July 31, 1924, Casual Comment column, Francis C. Richter)1925 - ". . . that Cobb, the greatest player the game has produced though he be," (Sporting News, June 4, 1925, Casual Comment column, Francis C. Richter)

because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who, at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobb puts somethinginto his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived." (Spalding NL Baseball Guide, 30's)1938 - "For the right fielder of this all-time team there can be no other choice than Ty Cobb. All of us say "no other," but if Willie Keeler had been as much of a record-maker as Cobb was , it might be a closer race between them to patrol right fieldfor this mythical team. Cobb began to play professionally when quite a youngster and he kept on improving almost to the day that his knees, which play a very important part in a ball player's life, began to go back on him. During nearly all of theseyears he was with the Detroit club, part of the time as manager and captain. He led the American League in batting so many years that it became an old story to the general public, but never so to Cobb. His keenness to win the title always stayed with

-- St. Petersberg, Fla., Aug. 5. ---Ty Cobb's the greatest player, in Capt. Alvord's opinion, and Walter Johnson the greatest pitcher. (Washington Post, Aug. 9, 1925, pp. 25)

"Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do

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with him. Cobb's marvelous eyesight made him a great hitter, and, if we may go a step farther, a superhuman batter. He would not strike at a bad pitch unless he desired to for some strategically purpose. He could bat either low or high, and he cared not whether the ball was pitched to him fast or slow. Of course, he had a preference, and the pitchers were not slow in finding that out; but it seemed to make little difference in his batting. When he had to make a play on the ball he would connectwith it by bunting or slugging, or just by "plain hitting," and the pitcher had to suffer. He was released by Detroit and played during the last year of his base ball career with Philadelphia in the American League. When Cobb ceased playing he had made more than 4,000 hits. To tie that record a man must begin playing pretty early in life. Take him as he is and there has been no player like him. He is without doubt the right fielder of this team." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)

1938 - In that same article in the 1938 Spalding Baseball Guide, Foster says, "He (Buck Ewing) has been called the greatest all-round player ever connected with the game. I think that he was." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)1936 - "Cobb turned in the biggest job that sport has ever seen. He comes close to being the greatest competitor that sport ever knew." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)1943 - "Ruth and Cobb or Cobb and Ruth are still the greatest two ball players the old game has ever known, and some may care to bring in Hans Wagner." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)1948 - Right after Babe Ruth died, Grantland Rice wrote a commemorative piece on him and at the end of it, in the last sentence, called him the greatest player who ever lived. 1915 - After seeing them all come and go for nearly thirty years: after seeing the great ones and the little ones, those who starred for years and years, and those who passed early from the game, two figures of them all persist in forcing themselvesupon my memory, and in plain opposition to each other--the forms of Tyrus Cobb and William Lange. Somehow, some way, these two always present themselves before me for comparison, and, despite all the praise they lavish on the Georgian today, I cannot seewhere the gigantic Lange was his inferior! Lest I seem biased in my love for old-time pals, I'll instantly add this: That I cannot see where Cobb is the inferior of Lange. If ever two men, of strangely different physical and temperamental types, were to be counted as an equal, well-matched pair, these two were Lange and Cobb.

Were Lange a youthful player of today, he'd be Cobb's greatest rival. Had Cobb played in the time of Lange, he'd have been big Bill's closest competitor. If Lange possessed the eel-like agility of Cobb, there would have been no chance to stop him. If Cobbhad the size of Lange, without impeding his own speed, he'd never get through scoring. On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice, between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had

the better throwing arm of the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another. At the bat: Considering the time when each played, and the rules, I can see small difference between the colossal Californian and the wiry wonder of the South. Lange had no foul-strikes to handicap him, but in his day a caught foul tip was an immediate out. Then, too, he faced great pitchers, who during at least part of his career, worked from a shorter distance, and there were no "sacrifice

It was on the bases, though--in the wondrous way that both circled round the cushions--that the strange likeness between Lange and Cobb is most strongly demonstrated. It is said that Cobb does a lot of daring things, all his own invention, never tried by any other player. I distinctly remember many of Cobb's tricks as exact duplicates of Lange's --tricks forgotten when Bill left the game, and revived long afterward by the Georgian. Nor do I call Cobb a copy-cat: he never sawLange play ball, and his tricks are simply those that naturally found new roots in the mind of a thinker and great base runner. Lange stretched his hits just as Cobb does now. Lange was lightnig quick to rush for an adjoining base on the slightest fumble or lack of watchfulness--just as Cobb is today. The smallest slowness of slovenliness in the throw-in, the pickup of the throw-in, or the guarding of bases, meant the sudden arrival of Lange at the next

station--as is the case with Cobb when the smallest opening is given. In straightaway steals, both Lange and Cobb were marvels at getting away, or getting the jump on the pitchers's delivery. For a heavy man, Lange had terrificspeed. Perhaps the lighter-built Cobb could actually outsprint Lange, but when it came to the instant of arriving at the base, Lange's immense size used to scare the infielders out of his way. to the instant of arriving at the base, Lange's immense size used to scare the infielders out of his way. He never spiked any one, because he didn't have to --they broke for cover when his 230 pounds bore down upon them. Cobb makes up for lack of weight by the wicked impetus of his slide and the dangerous onrush of his spikes. Lange stole a few more bases, both on the season and in proportion to number of games and chances offered. But in those days they were accustomed to let a runner steal or fail, without trying the hit and run or bunting as he went--hence Lange had fewer blossoming steals killed off by the batsmen than is the case with Cobb. In - short, Lange, in my humble opinion, was the full equal of Cobb--and, therefore, one of the greatest ballplyaers that the game has ever known." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1915, by Bill Phelon)1920 - "Tyrus Cobb ranks as king of all batsmen in more ways than one--and one way is in consistency." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1920, pp. 384, "The Season's First Month in Review", by Bill Phelon, pp. 381-384)1936 - "For what he accomplished as a hitter, to set records for practically everything except home runs, and as a thrill-producing base runner, Ty Cobb often has been proclaimed as the greatest ball player of all times. For nearly a quarter of acentury, Cobb stood far, far above the ranks of even the very best; temperamental, to be sure, but forever flashing his daring and unexpected bits of brilliant baseball, the like of which has never been matched." (Boston Globe, 1936, --(The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)

1922 - "Tyrus Cobb has been crowned the greatest player of all time, although he owns no world's championship emblem." (Baseball Magazine, Oct., 1922, pp. 490, "The Most Important Cog in the Baseball Machine, by Irving Sanborn, pp. 389-390, 518)1920's - Damon Runyon of the Hearst press called him "Tire-us, the Jewel of Jawjah" for his endurance. Runyon said a good many observers felt that, contrary to widespread opinion, Ruth did not overshadow him except in power hitting. Other writerscited the judgment of some American League players in contending that Cobb still possessed more offensive and defensive abilities than the glorified Babe. For one basic consideration, he struck out far less than Ruth, the chronic fanner. (Cobb by Alvin

1918 - "As an all-round player I think Cobb has it on them all. He is a player without a weakness, the greatest player I ever saw. If he could have starred in the old days before the foul strike rule went into effect, he would have torn things wideopen." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1918, pp. 476, column 2, "The Dean of Baseball Writers", by F.C. Lane, pp. 475-476))1934 - "It was such a fire of positive baseball genius that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game has produced. . . . But not one of them could match Ty's bold and daring recklessness, his impatient, never satisfied, persistent fight to outstripall other players in the race for fame, to stand alone and unchallenged on top of the baseball world." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1934, pp. 497, A New Application For Top Notch Honors, by F.C. Lane, pp. 497-498)

1937 - "Take the brightest name of all in the baseball calendar, Ty Cobb. He was the first choice for the famous Hall of Fame, the player who had more votes for the highest honor than any other. Ty is generally recognized as the greatest of diamondstars." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1937, pp. 298, "Baseball Stars - Are They Born or Made?, by Ferdinand C. Lane, pp. 297-298, 326-327)1981 - Hyannis - The names and dates come a little more slowly when you're 96, like Ferdinand Lane. But Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth are hard to forget - and Lane knew them both. . . "Ruth, he was big and strong and an awful hard hitter," Lane said. "No

doubt about that - he hit 'em hard into the seats. But Cobb was the best. . . he was a good runner, fast on his feet, a good man to make hits. I remember him well, he was a fighter, he was - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb."" Cobb's name rolled slowly off Lane's tongue. "We were at his home in Georgia," said Mrs. Lane. "He was a man who never let anyone walk over him." Mr. Lane said they never played favorites while her husband was editing Baseball Magazine, "never believed in it," but her husband winked that he thought the Yankees were probably his favorite team. Not long ago he debated with another of the residents at Whitehall Manor, a younger man who thought Ted Williams was the greatest player who ever lived. "Ty Cobb," insisted Lane.(Craig Little,1981)1938 - "However, I wanted the views of the one man I thought best qualified to answer the question. That was Connie Mack. . . In his half century of baseball, he has seen the entire parade of the game's great pass by. I heard Connie call Ty Cobb the game's greatest and with the passing of the years, he hasn't changed his mind. . . if anything, Connie is more insistent in awarding first place to the fiery Georgian. . . (Concerning Babe Ruth, Lieb continues), "Writers and fans have put him there, yet I still have to find a baseball man with the experience and background of such men as Mack, Barrow, the late John McGraw, the late Miller Huggins and McCarthy, who would go as to rate Ruth the greatest player of all time. they all concede Babe was the

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game's greatest showman, but for sheer playing greatness they place him behind Cobb and Wagner, some even place him behind Gehrig, Keeler and Speaker. While I consider Ty Cobb the game's greatest player, I am somewhat at a loss to understand why Ruth isnot given higher ranking. Was it that during a good part of Ruth's career he not only was the game's Home Run King, but also it's outstanding Play Boy?" (Sporting News, Jan. 27, 1938, pp. 3, column 5)1961 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the game's greatest all-time star and holder of the highest lifetime batting average - .367 for 24 seasons--died of cancer at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta,Ga., July 17: (New York Times, July 18, 1961)1970 - "But Fred, though "deep in my heart" regarding Cobb as the best player, was able to make a case for Ruth as the greatest complete player because of his great pitching ability, his fine arm, his running and fielding skill and the fact that he

revolutionized the game by ushering in the home-run era. (Sporting News, April 11, 1970, pp. 45, column 3)1977 - "At least as late as 1930, Ty Cobb and Hans Wagner generally were regarded as the greatest players of all time. However, now that Ruth's contributions to baseball can be fully evaluated, Mr. Babe looms up as number one.""Shortly after Ruth's death in 1948, Taylor Spink, publisher of The Sporting News, asked me to take the Ruth side in a debate with Harry Salsinger of the Detroit News on the subject "Who was the greater--Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth?" As a matter offact, up to that time I myself had considered Cobb to be number one. In arguing for Ruth, I made my case on the larger meaning of the word "great." (Baseball As I Have Known It, by Fred Lieb, 1977, pp. 168)1962 - Probably no living writer was better acquainted with the real Ty Cobb than Ed Bang, former sports editor of the Cleveland News. Bang, now 82 and living in retirement in Cleveland, is a charter member of the Baseball Writers' Association of America,having been present when that organization was founded in 1908, and holds card No. 1 as the senior member of the BBWAA . . ."Here and now let me place myself on record after 54 years of big league baseball coverage. I have never seen anyone who could be rated a close second to Ty Cobb. I arrived at that judgment long before Cobb retired from baseball, and no player I have seen in the intervening years has caused me to waver even slightly from that position. The Georgia Peach, as he was knownfamiliarly, if not always affectionately, was simply the Greatest. (The Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 13, column 1)

1910 - "Here is the best man in the world at his game, without the shade of a doubt: the best of any time.". .. "spectators at baseball games do not like this player who gives them more for their hard-earned ticket than any man alive or dead gave them."(Broun, continued) (NY Morning Telegraph, Oct., 1910, by Heywood Broun)1928 - "Cobb was the greatest player in baseball history." (New York World Telegram- The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)

1933 - "When you rate the great outfielders of all time as individuals you must concede the three top places to Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker. Some may declare Cobb to have been the greatest ballplayer the game has developed. Some, may fight theverbal battle for Ruth, who has been not only a wondrous performer on the field but a record-breaking attraction at the box office. But the Babe and Ty split the two top ratings, and then comes Speaker. Behind Tris you may like to designate Joe Jackson.Or perhaps you favor Wee Willie Keeler, the hitting scientist and the defensive student. . . . . of the White Sox of 1919, who by many authorities are rated at least one of the first three clubs of baseball history."1958 - "The greatest ball player, in all-round effect on the game, the fans and the players, Babe Ruth. The most richly talented, Ty Cobb. The greatest pitchers, Matty and Walter Johnson. The greatest club, the 1927 Yankees. (Sporting News, March 19, 1958, pp. 14, column 3)1960 - "The Presentations were made by Dan Daniel, who called Ty the greatest player baseball yet has seen. The diners shouted their approval. (Sporting News, February 16, 1960, pp. 5, column 1)1961 - "Ty Cobb is dead, at 74, and now comes a revival of the old debate as to where the Georgia Peach belongs in the all time rating of baseball heroes. Much as I would like to give the top accolade to Babe Ruth, to whom I was much closer than I was to Cobb, in all fairness and honesty, I must rate Ty as the greatest player the game has seen. . . .Faster than the rest, nimble of mind, always audacious and aggressive, domineering and arrogant with the mark of the genius, fiery of temper, accurate

of eye and unerring in his baseball judgment, sometimes cruel, Tyrus Raymond Cobb of Banks County, Ga., and the Detroit Tigers, was the diamond ne plus ultra, in a class by himself.

1962 - "Ty Cobb, greatest player of them all, played on that field for many years. (Sporting News, September 15, 1962, pp. 12, column 3)1939 - Detroit, June 11.-- The man they say was the greatest ball player who ever lived came back to the scene of his former triumphs today. His name has to be, of course, Ty Cobb. (Washington Post, June 12, 1939, pp. 19, "This Morning . . . With Shirley Povich") 1959 - "They were, of course, Cobb, Speaker and Ruth, names that go together like other inseparable trinities, viz: Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, or Winken, Blinken and Nod. … Cobb was simply the greatest, most exciting baseball athlete of his timeor any other: Ruth was the dramatist with his home runs that were matchless for frequency and distance, and Speaker the complete artist with the glove, who could also hit." (Baseball Digest, March, 1959, pp. 42, 43)1961 - "This week's obituaries must fall short. . . Inevitably, there were the comparisons: Cobb or Ruth. . . Ruth's was the home run. Cobb's was the whole sweep of other baseball skills, his dominance in his sphere as unchallenged as Ruth's kingshipof the batted ball for distance. . ."On fan impact, if not on skills, the comparison need not be ruled out. Both could tense up a whole ball park, in their special ways. The Cobb man gave them a different show. He was electric, both at the plate and on the bases. . .As an individual, he could destroy a whole ball team. to Ruth, a single was only a single. For Cobb, it was merely the

start of a progressive tour around the bases with excitement at each point, whether he was stealing or scrambling for an extra base on somebody's hit, often his own. Cobb's approach to baseball was that of a clinicist. Thus it was that he once exploited the rookie catcher of the Athletics, Wally Schang, with the complaint, "Get back a step, your're bothering my swing." When Schang complied, Cob laid down a bunt. . .The 12 AMERICAN League batting championships Cob won, nine of them in a row, from 1907-15permit little debate that he was the greatest hitter than ever lived, even though his home run total is pale alongside Ruth's. But his nine home runs were enough to tie him for the league lead in 1909 and he was recoginized as a power man at least in his era. Of Cobb, it can always be said, there he stands, high against the baseball sky, perhaps as the longest-enduring baseball figure." (Washington Post, Wednesday, July 19, 1961, pp. B1, "This Morning. . . With Shirley Povich")1969 - " I did not know Cobb well when he was the greatest ballplayer in the history of the game with twelve batting championships, nine in a row, and a lifetime - lifetime, mind you - average of .367. Today if a player hits .367 for a week,it's a big story." (All These Mornings, by Shirley Povich, 1969, pp. 45)1924 - "Ty Cobb, whose amazing exploits throw into the shade all other records which have ever been made on the diamond." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 300, top, right blurb, "The Twenty-five Greatest Players" by W. B. Hanna)1926 - "Cobb is done with baseball. Laid down his bat which for 21 years had terrorized opponents and ceased to use the amazing brain and marvelous legs which drove opposing teams to madness 15 years ago. The greatest player of all time, by far the

the greatest, will probably never again be seen playing in a game of professional baseball. The day I have dreaded has come. I will not see Cobb play ball again.It is almost incredible. I had entertained the hope that so long as I wanted to see baseball games I would have the exquisite pleasure of seeing now and then the great Cobb play. It has been my fortune to see the great John L. Sullivan, Jack McAuliffe,Tommy Ryan, Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson, Jack Johnson, box Tilden, the greatest of the tennis players of all time; Bobby Jones, the greatest and most attractive golfer of all time; Hagen, the great money player and professional star, but none of them gave

me such exquisite pleasure as the sight of Tyrus Raymond Cobb playing baseball. Of course, baseball is by far the greatest of the games. Tilden was, in his line, as great as Cobb was in baseball, but tennis in not baseball. No, not by a long shot. . .That Cobb was the great ball player may be taken as axiomatic. I have never heard this point contested. . . ."He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, go get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that ofsome great fielders, but I never could see any weakness in his fielding."He has been my idol, my idea of what a ball player should be and, in later years, my dearly beloved friend. . . For 20 years I have admired andloved him. I still entertain the hope that as age creeps upon us that from time to time

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I can sit down quietly as in the past and talk to Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Bayard of Baseball, the ball player beyond fear and above cavil." (Sporting News, November 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 6)1911 - "In the American League Ty Cobb has not only succeeded in doing superb work in all departments but is playing faster ball than ever and never has done more work to win games for his club than this season. He is fairly in a class by himself,and top-notcher that he is, plays with the same reckless disregard of results as ever. A man of the speed of Ty is bound to cause trouble for someone, but it is sheer nonsense that he will consent to slow up for some player who fails to get out of the way. It is nothing if not dangerous to catch a man like Cobb when he is making for a base under full headway and any fielder who attempts to stop him does so at his own peril and need not wait for apologies from Ty if he comes to grief. Attempts galore

have been made to prove that Ty is a dirty ball player, and those who howl the loudest at him are the ones who would do the same for him were he a member of the team in the city for which they root. It all depends whose ox is gored.

1960 - "Cobb's thin right arm slid around Mantle's shoulder, drawing Mickey close to him. "I think you're wonderful," said the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. (NY Daily Sunday News, Sept. 18, 1960)1928 - "Many baseball men to this day regard Wagner as the greatest ball player that ever lived. His only rival in that respect is Ty Cobb. The records give Cobb a shade the better of it, but it is still a debatable subject. Wagner had one bigadvantage. He cold play the outfield as well as anybody and could play the infield better than anybody. The claim for Cobb's superiority is based on his speed, batting and aggressive spirit. Many hold that Wagner was superior as a straight-away hitter.That is very likely true, but the old Dutchman, as he was affectionately called, lacked the sparkling variety of Cobb's attack. . .There are mighty few laymen in this country who have so thorough a knowledge of paintings and great painters as Ty Cobb. . ."The baseman or catcher who blocks him does so at his own peril(Cobb quote)." There is a lot of truth in that. . . The catcher must take his own chances in blocking the path. If he is bowled over, that is his own lookout. Under the rules, he has no defense. . . Wagner himself was an aggressive base runner. Probably he has gone through as many clashes of spikes as the fleet-footed Cobb. There never was a base runner quite the equal of Cobb, though. The chances are there

never will be. Wagner, however, took the clashes of temperament and spikes as all a part of the day's work. His imagination stopped right there." (The Saturday Evening Post, Twenty-five Years In Sports, by Bozeman Bulger, May 26, 1928, pp. 37, 136) "He was possessed by the Furies." (Boze Bulger speaking about Ty Cobb, date of quote, uncertain)

many of them ever studied a baseball record book. (Sporting News, February 15, 1950, pp. 3, column 1)1950 - "In any all-time rating of players, Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone. He was the greatest of the great, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist. . . He was a keener student of the game than his contemporaries and understood thegame better than they did. What is more, he understood them better than they understood themselves. . . . Baseball also has its lonely figure sitting on the Olympian heights. There is but one, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, and the game will never know his like again. While others have changed the destinies of peoples, the ways of living and the means of life. Cobb revolutionized and remade the sport of a nation. . . . Some men rate Wagner ahead of Cobb. Honus was undoubtedly the best infielder of all time. Agreat hitter and base-runner. He knew baseball, but never in the deep sense that Cobb did. He lacked the extra touch, the spark, the flame; there was no fire to Wagner's play: he was sound and thorough, but phlegmatic. Above all, he lacked imagination.He did not have Cobb's inventive mind. In his greatest moments Cobb was the very soul of baseball. Ruth had more batting power than any player before or since his day. He was the Goliath of the game, the Samson, but he was more than a great slugger. Hewas one of baseball's best left-handed pitchers before he concentrated on knocking the ball into the next county and when he quit pitching he developed into an outstanding outfielder. He was fast enough, had a fine pair of hands, was a sure judge of a flyball, played batters well, threw with speed and exceptional accuracy. He lacked Cobb's speed on the bases but ran with fine judgment. He never threw to the wrong base and almost never made a wrong play, and those are the standards by which ball players

judge their fellow players. Ruth pleased the eye, while Cobb pleased the mind and eye. Ruth lacked the speed, the quick break, the lightning-like thrusts of Cobb. He lacked his imagination. He was an entirely different type.

1955 - "Ty's Greatest Still Unrivaled After 50 Years - Brilliant and unorthodox, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist, Ty Cobb made baseball history for more than two decades. He dominated the game. . . . His is the story of a mighty brain and the driving force of genius that made him great when other men, superior in physical strength and natural ability and speed, remained mediocre. (Sporting News, September 7, 1955, pp. 10, column 2)1916 - "He (Ring Lardner, Sr.) also took me to Comiskey Park to see Ty Cobb. We sat out in the center field bleachers so dad could keep up a running fire of conversation with Ty. My father was very eager for me to see Cobb, whom he rated the greatest player in the history of the game. (The Sporting News, Jan. 15, 1942, interview of John Lardner, Jr., son of Ring Lardner, by J. G. Taylor Spink) 1947 - "The feature of a brief, written reply by Wray listed sports personalities he considered most outstanding in 47 years of reporting - Ty Cobb in baseball, Man O'War in horse racing, Edward B. Cochems in football, Jack Dempsey in prize fightingand Willie Hoppe in billiards. (Sporting News, March 26, 1947, pp. 15, column 2)

changing," writes Warren. "Some of you who have come in late, may have missed entirely what used to be an annual feature making its appearance at this time of year. That feature was the annual discovery of 'another Ty Cobb.' "We are not sure when the

practice of looking for or even announcing another Cobb was discontinued. Nor do we know why it was, save perhaps for the very obvious fact that there never has been and never will be another Cobb. "It may have been, of course, that the things that Babeto baseball and for attendances, baseball salaries and things in general, caused the drift away from Cobb. At least we have noticed that for a while, there was an occasional announcement that this rookie or that was another Babe Ruth. As we come downthrough the years, we hit upon another player who has been a bit of a sensation from law.That is Joe DiMaggio of the Yankees. Having established the type, the rush then began to find another Joe DiMaggio."(Sporting News, January 20, 1938, pp. 4, column 5)1926 - "It will not seem like the same old American League with Ty Cobb numbered among the missing, writes Henry P. Edwards in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. In fact it is difficult to believe that the famous Georgian, the most colorful player the AmericanLeague ever has known, will not go to bat around the circuit next season. Twenty-one years ago Cobb came up from the South to join the Detroit Tigers and it was he, more than any other one player, who is responsible for the construction of the greatbaseball plant at Navin field. Detroit was a poor baseball town until Cobb began to assert himself as the "world's best" and break records with unceasing regularity until most of the batting, base running and run getting marks became his. In fact hewas to baseball from 1906 to 1920 or so, what Babe Ruth is today-- the game's greatest drawing card. He revolutionized base running. Infielders hated to see him dashing down the plate, his 180 pounds skimming over the dirt and hurtling, spikesforemost, into the sacks. . . . But whatever may have been Cobb's shortcomings as a manager, there is no denying the fact the baseball world has known no greater player." ( The Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 3, Scribbled by A Scribe column)

1912 - "Now there's Cobb, for example. They say of Ty, and truly, that he is the greatest of living ball-players, if not the greatest that ever lived. He came up out of Georgia seven years ago, bringing with him a long bat, a pair of slim,flat-muscled legs, and a peppery disposition. To-day he is probably the most valuable bit of baseball property in existence. Pittsburgh paid twenty-two thousand five hundred dollars for Marty O'Toole, on speculation. How much do you suppose Cobb would bring, when his very name is a guarantee of the highest grade of efficiency? On the field Cobb is aggressive, argumentative, daring to the point of recklessness, always in the thick of the battle, fighting every minute to win. The popular idea of Cobb

is that he is a sort of thunderbolt in breeches; but put him in his street clothes, and he is the quietest man on the Detroit team. (Munsey's Magazine, July, 1912, pp. 528, Big Leaguers In the Spangles and Out, by Charles E. Van Loan)1948 - "The Georgia Peach stood so far above the others, it may be that no player will ever even approach him." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1948, pp. 349, column 1, "Evers Has Everything", by Ed Rumill, pp. 349-350, 354)1959 - "Of all the great athletes in which Pippen held close association throughout the Golden Era of Sports until his retirement in 1958, he pulled no punches in opining that Cobb was the greatest of them all. (Baltimore Sun, 1959)1934 - "Ty Cobb, if correctly quoted, regrets that as a player he took baseball so seriously. Taking baseball seriously made Cobb the greatest player the game has ever known." (Philadelphia Ledger, 1934) (History of Baseball, edited by Joe Reichler Allison Danzig, 1959, pp. 163, which gave the newspaper reference, but no dates)1961 - "Though recognized as the greatest all-around player, Ty was just another private in the ranks when it came to taking orders from Connie Mack in the dugout."(Baseball Digest, 1961, pp. 67-72, "This was Ty Cobb, by Ed Pollock in the Phil. Bulletin)

Unquestionably the greatest three players in baseball history were Cobb, Wagner and Ruth and they can be rated in that order. I wonder how many of those who voted ever saw Cobb, Wagner or Mathewson in action. Or, how

- Baseball types are changing, Warren Brown, sports editor of the Chicago Herald and Examiner has found, and as a result, future recruits are no longer called Ty Cobbs. "We have noticed that our baseball standards are

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1925 - "It will be a long time before the game develops a second Cobb, and then it will be just that--a second Cobb. You've seen the first and only. (Cleveland News, June 30, 1925)(Quote found in The Joe Williams Baseball Reader, edited by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 14, column 2, but it gives no page or column)1945 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb. In my book he was the greatest ballplayer of all time. I put Ruth in a separate category, the slugger supreme." (San Francisco, March 21, 1945)1953 - "He was Tyrus Raymond Cobb, possibly the best ball player who ever lived certainly the most dynamic" . . "the ballplayer who, to paraphrase General Forrest, was called "the bestest by the mostest." John McGraw called Honus Wagner the best, many

called Babe Ruth the best but the most called Ty Cobb the best." (Baseball's Greatest Players, by Tom Meany, 1953, pp. 24)1964 - "Then there was Ty Cobb. The only Cobb, combative and controversial. His fiery spirit made him one of the great ones, perhaps the greatest. No one in this favored land who grew up believing that this mercurial man from Georgia was the bestballplayer of all time is likely to change his opinion now. Cobb set more records than any player who ever lived. Many of these have been broken in the 35 years that have passed since he retired. Some still stand. Some will always stand.Cobb was Cobb. There was no other like him, nor is there ever likely to be. (Baseball's Best, by Tom Meany & Tommy Holmes, 1964, pp. 207) 1953 - "Ty Cobb was "without question" the greatest player of all time and Fred Clarke was the No. 1 manager. Those were the definite opinions of Ernest J. Lanigan, historian of the Hall of Fame and Museum, who celebrated his 80th birthday here, Jan.4.

1930 - "Cobb was the fiery, fighting Southern type, a very likable man with a wild temper, and undoubtedly the greatest player of all time. Beside being the best base runner and hitter he was a magnificent fielder and a fine thrower until he hurt hisarm, but it was his indomitable spirit that made him the leader. He fought for every point and fought his fellows if they did not battle as hard for victory as he did. I sat behind Cobb on the club house porch once with Germany Schaefer, watching him

instead of the game. He moved before each pitch, and leaped in one or another direction each time a ball was thrown, never still for an instant and always tensely observant of every move made on the field. (Baseball's Best, pp. 605, (North American Review, May, 1930, pp. 605, "Baseball's Best", by Hugh S. Fullerton)1936 - "Cobb, it is conceded, was the super-player of all time, near perfect in every detail." (Sporting News, January 23, 1936, pp. 3, column 3)

fans liked him. Personally, I hate to think that the Georgian has gone. I started writing baseball with the Detroit Club and found Cobb always ready to help a young fellow along. . . .The Tigers will not seem the same with Cobb missing from the troupeand those who had an opportunity to see him in his prime are to be considered fortunate for there never will be another in baseball like him." (Sporting News, Nov.11, 1926, pp. 2, column 6)1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means a poorfielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than a busy manin the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only one onwhich he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder."(Baseball Magazine, July, 1925, pp. 354, "Who Is The greatest-- Cobb or Ruth?", by Jack C. Kofoed, pp. 353-354)

1933 - "Cobb is the outstanding ball player of all time." (History of Baseball, edited by Joe Reichler & Allison Danzig, 1959, pp. 162, column 1, gives "New York Post, 1933" as a reference, but no dates)1961 - "As for Cobb, he was the greatest. He'd beat out a bunt and pretty soon he'd wind up at home. Baseball to Ty was war. He'd spike his own mother if a base was at stake. He was a player without a weakness except that in his later years his armwas gone. I'll always think this was because of his habit of warming up before a game like a pitcher. I've a notion that despite all the other things he did with such skill and wild abandon,Cobb actually was a frustrated pitcher. (Chicago Tribune, July 18, 1961)1940 - "Deservedly in this list comes Ty Cobb on every poll ever taken, voted "the greatest player that ever lived." What kind of a chap did Ty appear to me? Of course, I saw him on the field, flashing spikes and the old bean working every minute. Tywas irascible to those who didn't know and sometimes to them who did; he would fight at the drop of the hat and frequently did. There were stories of him that he would deliberately cut down a base-guardian as he went his merry way of thievery on thebases. There never was the slightest basis of fact in these charges. After all, you know the base-runner, too, has rights, and all Cobb wanted was all of them. To me, off the field, he was the kindest and most soft-spoken of gentlemen. In the lateryears, of his long service, I got to know him very well and once - he was then with the Athletics- he came to St. Louis and I wrote a story about him. He wasn't the old Cobb then by several nautical miles but his battling spirit still was there and, evenafter 40, he still was a great ball-player. Someway, the story struck his fancy. He invited me out to his hotel to personally thank me and assure me that story would go into his scrapbook. To this scribe, Cobb the nonpareil of baseball players, willever be a star--on and off, as the actors say. A player of his type comes only once in three or four lifetimes." (Baseball Magazine, January, 1940, pp. 341, column 1, "Players We Have Met", by James M. Gould, pp. 341-342, 379-380)

1940 - "They're still looking for another Ty Cobb. And this writer will hock' the family plate--at least he would if there were any--and bet it all that, when the next century of the national pastime begins, they'll still be looking for one.He could hit like a fiend and his like as a base-runner never will be seen again. But he wasn't a great fielder. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1940, pp. 304, What's Baseball's Biggest Asset, by James M. Gould, pp.303-304, 328-329)1925 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb ranks as the greatest player that base ball has ever known. . . . It is possible that Rogers Hornsby hits the ball harder, perhaps oftener, than did Tyrus Raymond Cobb. It is indubitably true that Babe Ruth hits a ball with amore wicked swing, more tremendous power than did or does Tyrus Raymond Cobb. But neither ranks in our mind as the ALL-AROUND BATTER that Cobb is. For the Georgian mastered every artifice known to batsmen. . . . He could clasp that bat in his gnarledhands and hit distance clouts that made him no small marksman with the bludgeon. He could place the ball as adeptly as Keeler, the greatest of all batsmen in this one feature of hitting. Cobb had no weakness as a hitter. He had no fault with the stick.His appearance as the bat in the days of his glory and youth was the moment in which the opposing pitcher had his direst situation, his toughest foe and his darkest moment. . . . So Ty ran "wild" on the bases. But he ran with a purpose. He startedothers on the same path, in fact he revolutionized the game. He tore baseball away from its old wedlock to the army game, merely a contest of hit, run, field and throw. He put it in a scientific groove, from which it did not free itself until Babe Ruthand his bat lured base ball back to the old game of sock. But he had accomplished his purpose. His style, his methods, his finish converted base ball, growing steadily tedious, in which either the pitcher was supreme or the batter was august, into a

game where fresh stratagems were offered to outwit both. The game became speedier, the play became faster, the game held more of an appeal and a lure. And Tyrus Raymond Cobb DID THAT.(Official American League Reach Base Ball Guide,February, 1926, pp. 38)1958 - "As a figure in baseball, as must have been written down this side of this sports page at least a thousand times, Babe Ruth was to the writer "The Old Guy who stood Alone." The description was mine and is, I think, still apt.

beat your brains out with the home run? Or a player who might play only one position and yet might be superlative as a hitter, base runner, defensive star, and a winner of games. Because Babe was so superb and I was writing pieces in his years of glory,and while I believed and still know that in one sense, he "Stood Alone," I still never wrote that opinion of him without somehow thinking of Ty Cobb. Because, you see it's difficult to make a comparison between the sort of players, that Babe and Ty were.That I saw Big George play many games must go without saying. I, also, saw Cobb play quite a few games at Sportsman's Park--before it got around to living every golden minute as Busch Stadium." Bill then went on to say that Mays might go on to exceed allother players who ever lived. (NY Journal-American, Wednesday, July 25, 1958)1940 - "Occasionally you'll hear fans arguing about who was the greatest player the game ever knew, but most ball players accept Cobb as tops, without a question. They still talk in dugouts and on trains and in hotel lobbies about how Cobb did this orthat and they are happy when they meet somebody who can tell them about Ty." (Sporting News, Aug. 22, 1940, pp. 4, column 4)

Cobb's Loss is Baseball's Loss - Cleveland fans were sorry to read of the passing of Ty Cobb. There was no city in the league where Cobb was more popular. He was always the object of much razzing, but he always gave it right back and the

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1948 - "The question of who was the greatest ball player of all time is largely a matter of opinion and important largely to two persons-- the one expressing the opinion and the one who quickly challenges and disagrees. We saw Sisler at his peak, and it is not difficult to pick him as the greatest in our book. He didn't hit home runs at the Ruth pace. Detroit will laugh at the suggestion that Sisler be ranked above Ty Cobb. But we'll stick to Sisler, nevertheless." (Golden Age of Sports, edited byAllison Danzig and Peter Brandwein, 1948, Baseball by J. Roy Stockton, Sports Editor, St. Louis Post-Dispatch)1969 - The late Denman Thompson, sports editor of the Evening Star for many years, passed on shortly before he could find out if his late, great friend, Ty Cobb, would be voted the all-time best player. Thompson and Cobb carried on a voluminous

correspondence for years and Thompson always believed that no greater player ever lived than his friend, "The Georgia Peach". (Washington Post, July 20, 1969, pp. 45, "Considerable Coverage", by Bob Addie)1950 - "putting the finger on the greatest of them all caused not the slightest bit of confusion. Tyrus Raymond Cobb does not have even a close competitor when the king of all ball players is to be named. That was an opinion which became unrestrained more than forty years back, a conclusion reached by the majority of the players, managers and scriveners of that era, and was continued throughout the following decade and a half before the Great Ty started to bow to the whims and edicts of Father Time.It is an opinion which will hold forth, in the thoughts of the brainiest baseball men of the first half of this twentieth century, when the twenty-first century makes its bow, provided that the history of the sport is as accurately written and withoutbias as it has been to date. No hope is held that there ever again will be another Ty Cobb. . . .From . . . 1905 until . . . 1928, he was the most amazing of all ball players. . . . Not the greatest outfielder ever to patrol an outer garden nor thepossessor of as great a throwing arm as many others had, Cobb made up for what he lacked by the uncanny manner in which he played the game, so there never was any complaint concerning his defensive ability. Offensively, he was so far ahead of all others he made a joke of comparison. He was the greatest batsman of all time and the scourge of all pitchers during his heyday. . his popularity was confined to his attractiveness as a GREAT. He was hooted and howled at, booed, stoned, attacked by both playersand fans, and yet no other person proved the magnet for real fans as he. . . Boston, always noted in those days as one of the smartest of all baseball cities, disliked him cordially and let him know it. . . Detroit's Tigers were the greatest attraction

because of Ty's presence in the lineup. And because he batted in third spot in the lineup and thus was sure to come to bat in the opening inning, the stands usually were filled when the game started -- nobody wanted to miss seeing even one of his timesat bat. He probably got as much opposition in Boston as in any city, particularly in the days of the great Red Sox teams of the first Bill Carrigan regime. Bill -- Old Rough they call him in those days --refused to acknowledge that Tyrus couldn't bestopped and it was a constant battle whenever the two teams met. . . Think of a player defying an entire team, not only once, but regularly and going on to play in what is today considered superhuman form. Chances are slim there ever will be another Ty

Cobb in baseball ability. . . So perhaps it is not so much of a chance veteran baseball men are taking when they say that Ty Cobb was the greatest in the first half of the twentieth century and that he still will hold that honor when the first hundred

1926 - "There is hardly any doubt that Cobb was the greatest ball player the game has produced. . . . He could do things no other ball player could equal. He was the most scientific of the batsmen and the most daring and effective of the base runners. In the outfield, he was below the standard of Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush and a few others, but he made himself a star. He developed a sense of showmanship that led to some of the most spectacular catches ever made by an outfielder. . . .Baseball will hardly see his like again." (Sporting News, Nov.11, 1926, pp. 1, column 5) 1926 - "Ty Cobb, lean of flank, is presented as "the greatest ballplayer of them all." That was 15 years ago and it is interesting to note that Cobb clung to the title to the end of his diamond career. The Georgian kept so far ahead of the field that none arose to dispute his eminence. "In comparing a ballplayer," the editor in 1912 wrote, "the Cobb standard always is used." That same line would be appropriate today, tomorrow, possibly as long as baseball endures." (Sporting News, December 16, 1926, pp. 6, column 6)

1934 - "It was there that Ty Cobb started in 1905 the spactacular career that stamped him as the greatest player of all time." (Sporting News, March 22, 1934, pp. 6, column 3)1939 - No other writer (Harry Salsinger) did more to spread the fame of the fiery Cobb, to give the country a clear and sympathetic picture of this many-sided genius whom most qualified observers call the greatest ball player in history." (Sporting News, Dec. 28, 1939, pp. 7, column 3)1957 - "It is impossible to over-praise his ability on the ball field. . . . If there ever is another Ty Cobb in baseball, this will be a most extraordinary happening. Ball players like Cobb are singular, rare, even among those who are indisputablygreat. I am very glad that I saw him play frequently. Ty Cobb is generally regarded as the greatest ball player who ever lived. That was how he was thought of at the height of his career. . . . But be this as it may, Ty Cobb remains as somethingphenomenal and utterly extraordinary in the history of baseball . . . He had the natural equipment, the instinct, or intuition, the head, the daring and the interest to be what he was--a ball player of untold greatness. . There are great ball players who are mechanically perfect, who do everything well and show their unmistakable abilities. There are others like Cobb.. Cobb played with his full potential and you always sensed that. He gave himself to the game, and with a baseball intelligence thatmatched his daring. Added to every other talent there was mind. He played with his mind, and this you felt as you watched him.. We can say that there are many kinds of ball players, including great ones. But even among the great ball players there is something particular to say of Ty Cobb. He played with brilliance. Averages, better fielding equipment, night games, more road trips, the lively ball and the whole shebang notwithstanding, it is rare that you see athletes like Ty Cobb. As a ball playerhe was what the French call quelque chose, and on the ball field he had je ne sais quoi. It means the same in English-- "I do not know what." (My Baseball Diary, by James T. Farrell, 1957, pp. 219, 220, 222- 226 )

1966 - "Possibly one had to see Ty Cobb play to believe that he played as he did. He was the most singular phenomenon of a ball player whom I have ever seen play, more singular even than Babe Ruth or Ted Williams." (August 11, 1966)1951 - "He was Tyrus R. Cobb, the Georgia Peach, called by more experts than any other man, baseball's greatest all-around player. For nearly 25 years Cobb dominated the sport. He played each contest as though his life depended on it. . . Connie Mack,once asked what baseball's greatest record was, without hesitation pointed to Cobb. "The toughest thing to do is to continue hustling and bearing down after you have achieved success. Yet Ty never let any of his incredible achievements slow him down ormake him complacent. His great number of titles over a long period of time is baseball's greatest record." . . . Many experts rate the Georgia Peach as the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. "That Cobb," they swear. "He was in a class all by himself."(The World Series and Highlights of Baseball by Lamont Buchanan, 1951, pp. 35)1961 - "I'm sad because I think of the times my boy, Bobby, who would ask me to tell him about Cobb. I'd disguise my ignorance of the man by merely saying, "Bobby, he was the greatest player who ever lived." And he'd ask, hesitantly, even greater than

1969 - "Mr. (Dick) Young asks us to name the greatest single player in history, and this has to be either Ruth or Cobb and you can argue long into the night over the merits of these two players, and finally I came up with Ruth because he seemed to have

more of an impact on the game, though for sheer ability, Cobb probably had an edge on The Bambino." (Sporting News, July 5, 1969, pp. 2, column 2) (note: ripped Ty off through double-talk. Falls now in 2001 puts Ruth #1 again in a personal letter.)1975 - "This was one of the wisest moves ever made in the Tigers' history, because Cobb became the greatest player in the game." "Some say Cobb was the greatest player of all time. " (The Detroit Tigers by Joe Falls, 1975) 1926 - Cobb Stands Alone - For twenty-two years Cobb has blazed a flaming trail along the pathways of baseball, has done the things wonderful, spectacular, Herculean -- things almost unbelievable in the sheer brilliance of achievement.

Cobb not merely has no equal but he never had a rival. They've called him "peerless," the"wonder man," "amazing," the "baseball sublime," yet none ever has properly praised him because the English language knows no adjective sufficiently superlative todescribe Ty Cobb--of "Jawja, Sah." (Reach AL Official Baseball Guide, 1926)1941 - "If any youngster doubts--no old timer who knows anything at all about baseball would--the greatness of Ty Cobb, the game's number one man in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown, let him take a look at the records. This genius of geniuses with his blazing spirit lasted 24 years in the American League and except for his first season batted better than .300 all the way. (Baseball Magazine, January, 1941, pp. 356)1951 - "Ty is generally regarded as the greatest of all players, and a detailed review of his record achievements alone would require more space than is allotted for this article. (Baseball Magazine, May, 1951, pp. 405)1954 - "But as a hitter and as a base runner, Cobb stood alone. You can say that Mays has more power but all you actually know is that Willie hits the modern lively ball farther than Cobb could hit the leather covered rock pitchers threw 40 years ago.

years of organized baseball are finished. (Baseball Digest, April, 1950, pp. 73-77, Poll names Ruth greatest, but -- I'll Still Take Cobb! by Jack Malaney, condensed from the Boston Post)

Babe Ruth?" I'd reply, "Yes, even greater than Babe Ruth," . . .and his eyes would light up with an admiration that can come only with hero worshipper of 9." (Detroit Free Press, Tuesday, July 18, 1961, pp. 25, "

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Home runs were not unknown to Cobb. for instance, he led the league in 1909 with nine, indicating that he was one of the best of his time. (Brooklyn Eagle, August 11, 1954, pp. 18 This is Ridiculous--Mays Versus Cobb)(Author's note; In the interest of historical accuracy, Cobb easily outslugged Mays. Cobb led his league in RBI's 4 times, Total Bases 6 times, slugging ave. 8 times, OBA 6 times. Mays led the same categories 0 times, 3 times, 5 times, 2 times. Moreover, Cobb may have led his league only once in home runs, but he came in 2nd place for homers twice, and 3rd place twice. Overall, only Ruth can outrank Cobb as a slugger historically.)1926 - "Cobb, the player, was the greatest. . . Cobb, when at his best, was always doing the unexpected. When he reached first he usually upset the entire opposing team." (Sporting News, Dec. 9, 1926, pp. 3, column 2)

1926 - "Cobb's retirement will give birth again to the fruitless discussion that attempts to fasten the fame of being the greatest player in the history of the game on this man or that man. It will result in a digging up of the records of Pop Anson,famous first baseman and manager of the old Chicago White Stockings: of Honus Wagner, the Flying Dutchman of the Pittsburgh infield, and of the contemporary Babe Ruth and Rogers Hornsby. Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirersof Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps even greater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines,and no doubt, has proven a greater drawing card, but Cobb was Cobb and no other has approached him. . . There has only been one Cobb--there'll never be another." "Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirers of Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps evengreater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines, and , no doubt, has proven a greater drawing card, but Cobb was Cobb and no other has approached him." (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 7, column 3)1965 - "Ty Cobb was a boyhood hero of mine. I always thought he was the greatest baseball player who ever pulled on a pair of spikes." (Unplayable Lies, by Fred Corcoran, 1965)1961 - "Every one identified with baseball agrees that Cobb was the game's greatest individual player," remarked Keener. "Of course, there is Babe Ruth and his record as a home run slugger, and the mighty Honus Wagner. However, Ty was creative, daring,

and courageous. He compiled more records than any other player. Ty will be missed in Cooperstown and throughout baseball. However, his performance on the ball field will live on and on."(July 20, 1961,"Ty Cobb Dies; One of First Hall of Famers",by Farmer)1963 - "I still think Ty Cobb was number one," the former sports writer said. "He was the individualist, the creator. He was the first man to go from first to third on an infield out. He was the first to score from second on an outfield fly."In praising Cobb, Keener said he did not intend to take any luster away from Babe Ruth or any of the other all-time stars of

the game. They were all different," he added, "Ruth was a stylist--the best in his specially, the home run. He captured the imagination of the public. He was great."(Staten Island Advance, August 24, 1963, picked up this article from Cooperstwon, N.Y. (AP)--"Ty Cobb Is Still No. 1 To Baseball's Historian")Many of Cobbledick's columns focused on the never-ending debate over who was the greatest ballplayer of all time or who did or did not deserve admission to baseball's Hall of Fame. Cobbledick did not agree with polls of sportswriters and broadcasterswho named George Herman "Babe" Ruth as the greatest player of the twentieth century. In Cobbledick's opinion Ty Cobb was the greatest player. Acknowledging that Ruth was a superlative home run hitter, Cobbledick maintained that in every other category, with the possible exception of throwing, Cobb was superior to Ruth. (Dictionary of Literary Biography, Volume 171, "American Sports Writers", pp. 75)1926 - "Ty Cobb, for 22 years with Detroit and the last two seasons with Philadelphia, has announced his retirement from active baseball at the end of the current pennant fight. Thus passes the greatest diamond performer of all time. That is The Wake's opinion. With those who may choose some one else we have no quarrel or argument, but for all around accomplishment give us Ty Cobb. Babe Ruth unquestionably has attracted more people through the turnstiles than any other player, past orpresent. He has produced more home runs in one season and still is producing them. He is a clouter. If Cobb be inferior to Ruth as a home run hitter he was not inferior in any other respect, not even in batting. On the bases, in the outfield, in quick

thinking, he outclassed the Bambino. One watches with anticipation when Babe Ruth is at bat. One watched with anticipation when Ty Cobb was at bat, in the field, or on the bases. If one didn't watch one was likely to miss something worth seeing. Even when Ty passes his name will endure long in record book. He led the American league in batting twelve years -- nine years in succession, from 1907-1915 inclusive. That mark is approached only by Hans Wagner, who topped the list eight times in theNational league. Cobb led his league in stolen bases ten different seasons and had a record of 96 in 1915. Marks which he holds take nearly a half page in the baseball guide. Strangely enough, this greatest player of all time never enjoyed being on a world's championship aggregation. Three times while he was a member Detroit won its league pennant --1907-8-9--and lost three times in succession, to the Cubs twice and to Pittsburgh. Always a high salaried player. Cobb retires independently wealthy. . . . It always will be a pleasant memory to The Wake that we saw him in action so many times during his prime. ( Sept. 23, 1928, Chicago Daily Tribune, In the Wake of the News; Harvey T. Woodruff inherited this column from Jack Lait in Nov.,'19,who in turn, had inherited it from Ring Lardner in Jun.,'19. Lardner had conducted the column since June, 1913. Harvey T. Woodruff conducted the column In the Wake of the News until his death in '37, when Arch Ward inherited it until his death in '55. 1951 - "In fact, it was his terrific base-running, along with his superb batting and strong fielding, that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game ever had. Now, of course, speaking of Cobb as the greatest player of all time may not be a universalopinion, but it is mine as well as that of such an authority as the late Charles A. Comiskey and a number of other baseball men who watched Cobb during his entire career. (Baseball Magazine, April, 1951, pp. 375).1952 - "Crowding the 25-year champs at 24 was perhaps the greatest player of them all, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach. Cobb set the American League afire shortly after joining the Detroit Tigers back in 1905, and kept the flame burning brightly until he hung up his spikes with the Philadelphia Athletics in 1928." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1952, pp. 17)

1941 - So speaks Tyrus Raymond Cobb, generally considered the greatest ballplayer of all time. (Baseball Magazine, August, 1941, pp. 414)1941 - "Perhaps the most classic and wide-spread baseball question is, "Who was the game's greatest ballplayer?" Most of the decisions on this one, and there must have been millions, have slipped the duke to either Tyrus Raymond Cobb, or John HenryWagner. If, in contrast to the baseball umpire's decision, which is generally in the minority, but always final, this were left to a vote, the verdict would undoubtedly go to Cobb, the fiery Georgia Peach. But if it were left to a consensus of expertbaseball opinions of those who were familiar with both players in their prime, it would probably go to the Flying Dutchman.With such acknowledged baseball experts as John J. McGraw and Ed Barrow giving Wagner the palm."(Baseball Magazine,May,1941,pp. 554)1930 - "Shortstop would present the second greatest ballplayer the world has produced--Honus Wagner. Next to Cobb, the Flying Dutchman rates as the game's most wonderful performer. Who will ever forget those two? Wagner was a circus all by himself. Many people went every time Pittsburgh came to town just to see Honus play like they go to see Babe Ruth sock home runs now. Now for outfielders. Ty Cobb leads them all. Ty could do anything. . . He is the game's greatest hitter, run scorer and baserunner. . . He ran wild on the bases. . . He always specialized in the unexpected. . . He played at all times to win--tried his hardest even though his team might be out of the pennant race. That's the spirit that conquers worlds and builds empires." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1930, pp. 363-365, 375; quote apears on pp. 365))

1946 - "What Shakespeare was to literature, Beethoven was to music, Caruso was to tenors, Napoleon was to warfare, Lincoln was to statesmanship,Newton was to physics, Ty Cobb was to baseball--peculiar, alone, unique; the apotheosis of the apple slappers.. . . I am also asked, whenever I broach the subject, what Ty Cobb would do with this fast ball and modern style of play. I have already explained what Sam Crawford would do. But with Ty it is different. Nobody ever knew what he would do--anywhere or at any time, on or off the field. With his lightninglike thought processes, his power of concentration, his sublime courage and his ruthless will to win, there is no doubt he would be a sensation under any set of conditions, or with any kind of ball. But

it would not be the Ty Cobb who stands alone now in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown. Ty's genius was strategy, . . . That year(1915) Cobb was thrown out thirty-eight times while trying to steal. But here figures don't mean much. More strategy. Anytime the Tigers were away ahead, and our pitcher was working smoothly, Cobb always ran wild on the bases, just to build up his reputation as an India-rubber idjit on a spree, as that old sports writer, Kipling, might have called him. He never wanted any infield, pitcher or catcher, to have a moment's rest. He wanted'em so badly scared they'd still be frightened the next day. I must admit that, having watched this piece of greased lightning in human form ever since that first day he joined the Tigers inAugust 1905 after he had hung up his spiked shoes for good, the game was never quite the same for me. I never see a runner rounding second now, hesitating and dancing back to the bag like a frightened bird whose mother is trying to push him out of thenest, that I don't recall what Cobb would have done in the same situation. . . With Cobb on the bags, it was easy for the batters following him to get hits. The pitcher had something else on his mind. . . . But he ( Tigers owner Frank J. Navin) neverdenied it was Ty's fame brought the money to the gate. Ty made possible the great new field. . . .There are many leaders of business today who will confess that they came to Detroit during the first and second decades of the twentieth century so that

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they could watch Ty Cobb play. . . . "I didn't know that you were a baseball fan, Jimmy." (Malcolm Bingay to Jimmy Doolittle, famous aviator.) "I'm not," he grinned; "just a Cobb fan. As a kid in St. Louis I never missed a game in which Cobb played, but | can't remember bing interested in any others. What interested you in Ty Cobb?" "Speed!" said Jimmy. "Just speed! I wanted to see him go around those bases." "Would ty have made a good aviator?" "Yes--a wonder! I have never known any other man whohad such complete co-ordination of mind and body." (Detroit Is My Own Home Town by Malcolm Bingay, 1946, pp. 152, 154-155, 157-158, 163, 259-260.)1921 - "In stategy, there isn't a manager in the game who can out-brain Cobb. He is the most brilliant player in the game and he can be expected to devise brilliant plays for the club as he has devised them for himself."

1961 - "I was flabbergasted that this greatest of all ball players remembered the incident and had demeaned himself to apologize publicly. . . I submit that this bears out your contention that Cobb was a wonderful and warm-hearted man, tops in characterand everything else." (Sporting News, December 14, 1961, pp. 14, column 4 & 5)1961 - "pointing a finger at the greatest ballplayer of all time" (San Francisco Examiner, July 21, 1961, by Abe Kemp)1925 - "Cobb, who has done more for local baseball than any man living or dead. The greatest player who ever wore spikes, holder of more batting and base running records than any other man, a fiery and hard-working manager-this is all the Georgia Peach has been to Detroit. (NY Times, May 17, 1925, pp. S1)1961 - "He was the greatest hitter, the greatest base-runner, the greatest strategist and --The GREATEST BALL PLAYER (New York Herald Tribune, July 18, 1961)

In the same blunt appraisal, Gallico saw Cobb as the greatest player who ever lived, greater even than Babe Ruth or Honus Wagner, a unique, compelling character. . . an astonishing man who infused such drama, flesh and blood into the chill records he set

that his like has not been seen since. (The Golden People, by Paul Gallico, 1965)1935 - "The greatest all-around performer that baseball ever developed, taking into account all of the game's ramifications, batting, base running, defensive skill, longevity and general brilliance, was Ty Cobb. Only a stride behind him rode Tris Speaker. In fact, Spoke's one misfortune was that his illustrious career had to run concurrently with that of the famous Georgia Peach. And the most colorful, glamorous and perhaps the most truly great of them all was George Herman Ruth."

(New York Times, December 26, 1935, pp. 24, "Sports of the Times", by John Drebinger, Pinch-Hitting for John Kieran)1938 - "Cobb, perhaps, came closer than any to filling all the requirements. He was dynamic, brilliant, literally driving himself to greatness. What he did not come by naturally he acquired by long and patient practice. He ranked for years as thegreatest sure-fire hitter the game ever saw. To this he added a dash and daring on the basepaths no player has ever been able to match. He was not the greatest of fielders, but by long, diligent practice he drove himself to the point where he could doall things more than reasonably well. With the same determination that he tore into his sliding pits until his sides were raw he would practice throws to the plate until his arm was ready to drop off." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1938, pp. 549)1945 - "But why try to explain Cobb's method of doing things? He was so far beyond the average that what might seem simple and fundamental to him would be out of the reach of the ordinary athlete. The fiery Georgian--pardon me, he is a very meekchap--made so much baseball history that his like never will come again." (NY Times, September 2, 1945, Sports of the Times column, by Arthur Daley)1957 - "Cobb was more than just a great player, probably the greatest of them all. He was a diamond intellectual, analyst and psychologist rolled into one. Not only could he hit better and run faster that anyone else, but he also could outthink anyother ball player." (NY Times, June 4, 1957, Sports of the Times column by Arthur Daley)

1952, 1962 - "Cobb is one popular conception of the greatest baseball player of all time." (Baseball's Hall of Fame, by Ken Smith, 1952, 1962, pp. 109)1961 - "At Tupelo, Miss., last February, Andy Reese, Giants' speedster of the late '30's recalled how Cobb worked with Lefty O'Doul and himself. "We trained in his home town, Augusta, and he hadn't yet reported for his own last year with the A's. Hemade Lefty and me come out every morning at 7 o'clock and hit. I guess that's what he used to do himself when he was a minor leaguer. But here he was, 41, out there with a bat. Cobb won the batting chamionship for O'Doul in my book."(Smith, continued) (New York Mirror, Thursday, July 20, 1961, by Ken Smith)1914 - "Off the field Ty is first a gentleman, affable and retiring. He's not the bellicose, blatant butcher-beater that he has been pictured. On the contrary, he's what Robert Burns would call a "discontented ghost, a perturbed spirit." Ty has a grievance. Cobb, unquestionably the greatest ball player on earth, the highest salaried individual in the rank and file of the diamond" (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, October 8, 1914) 1939 - "There never was such a combination of brains and skill." Batchelor recalls today. "Others might have been able to imagine the plays he made, but only Cobb could execute them." ( Sporting News, April 6, 1939, pp. 9, column 5)1961 - "As the oldest active member of the Baseball Writer's Association of America, in point of continuous service dating back to October 1908, it was my privilege to see a very large percentage of the baseball games in which Tyrus Raymond Cobbappeared during his tenure of 22 years with the Detroit Tigers. This, I believe, lends some authority to my appraisal of his talents and accomplishments. It has established that, in my considered opinion, he was , all things considered,the greatest ballplayer that ever lived and the most valuable piece of property ever owned by any ball club,". . . "Early in his baseball life, a canard developed that Ty was a brawler who constantly sought trouble. Unfortunately for him, there then

were . . . on the Detroit roster, a few who were contemptible bullies. . . "So much of the Cobb saga has to do with his hitting and basestealing that many fans forget his accomplishments as a fielder. He was one of the best, with speed enough to cover ground, good judgment on fly ball, sure hands, and an adequate arm. In fact, in his early days his arm rated excellent but he impaired it somewhat by insisting on trying to develop into a pitcher and spending a lot of time throwing curves and varioustrick deliveries. ( My Life in Baseball - the True Record, By Ty Cobb with Al Stump, 1961, pp. 9-11)1965 - "Ah, now there was a ball player. A player of fantastic skills. . . .But he won't utter a word about Cobb, the man. "There's only one thing I want to remember--that he was a great ball player. I don't want to remember the rest," he said. (Batchelor, continued), (Sporting News, August 28, 1965, pp. 15, column 2)1962 - "While active players vied for the limelight, the game lost the greatest player in its history when death claimed by Ty Cobb." (Sporting News, Jan. 3, 1962, pp. 14, column 2)1958 - "I didn't know Cobb intimately when he played for Detroit. I met him only once then, via Lu Blue, the Detroit first baseman. I did know Cobb intimately in 1927 and 1928, when he played for the Philadelphia Athletics, also in 1929 and in 1930. The latter year I visited him for ten days at his home in Augusta. Cobb to me was not only by far the greatest player I ever saw, he was a fascinating conversationalist, well versed in finance and world affairs as well as baseball. I spent dozens of

of evenings with him and listened to him by the hour. I was surely a friend of his and he of mine. Al Simmons was his friend. So was Dan Howley, manager of the Browns and later Cincinnati. When I visited Ty in Augusta, he seemed to know everybody and everybody knew him. Some of his buddies went fishing with us. He was far from a lonely man. So I want to pay tribute to the greatest ball player and, in my opinion, an outstanding personality and friend." (Sp. News, Nov. 19, 1958, pp. 15, column 4 & 5) 1962 - "Ty Cobb was a man who had many friends and there were many who disliked him. . .to me he was the greatest player I ever saw by far during 53 years watching the game as a fan, feature writer and TV commentator."

1939 - "they never laughed at the man who was to stand alone as the fiery genius of baseball.". . .Bill Croke. . . He is the man who peddled the greatest ball player of all time to Bill Armour. . . July 4, 1905. (New Enterprise Ass., Apr. 6, 1939)1944 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone as the fiery genius of baseball. Ty Cobb possessed a combination of talents that has been found in no one else, but it was his burning desire to excel that made him the greatest ball player who ever lived. Cobbwas so sincerely a bad loser that he became a terrific winner. Cobb was the only player who dominated the game. . . .They did not know how to play him. (They Played the Game: The Story of Baseball Greats, by Harry Grayson, 1944, pp. 3)1927 - "People talk of Babe Ruth as a better ball player than Cobb. Right now, he is. But when one considers their life time averages there can't be any comparison. Cobb is in a class by himself." (NY Herald-Tribune, 1927,)

Cobb Was Game's Greatest Star - "Cobb, the first player elected to Baseball's Hall of Fame-- even outpolling home run king Babe Ruth by seven votes in the original balloting in 1936--was the unique genius of the game's first century. . .

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. . . brought to the game a special brand of daring, intensity and consuming will to win that never has been matched by any player past or present. . . Cobb most recently was honored by the New York chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association on Jan. 21, 1960. In an unusual departure from custom, the writers honored Cobb as "the outstanding player of 1911" -- 49 years later--and heard him say feelingly, "I'm proud I was a ball player." (NY Journal-American, July 18, 1961)1950 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, recognized in Georgia and other parts of the world as the greatest ball player of all time, came home to his native state, August 29, and found the Atlanta Crackers waiting for him,

1984 - "(Maury) Allen's book is entertaining and thoughtful, and its selections at times are courageous. He avoids the knee-jerk selection of Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth as the greatest ever, " (Bill James 1st Historical Baseball Abstract, 1984, pp. 276)1943 - "I saw my first big league (baseball) game in 1920. I have found it generally agreed that the White Sox club of 1919 were the absolute standout team of all time, that Cobb was the greatest player and Johnson the greatest pitcher.

1961 - "Thus will come to an earthly end the saga of the Georgia Peach, Ty Cobb, the incomparable, the athlete aflame with an insatiable desire to succeed, the greatest baseball player of all time. His accomplishments are legion and have been recountedmany times before." (Atlanta Constitution, July 19, 1961, pp. 26)1931 - "Probably the most colorful player of all time, as well as the greatest, was Ty Cobb." (Sporting News, February 19, 1931, pp. 3, column 6)1947 - "Cobb comes first. He was King. A score of years after his retirement, when the first Hall of Fame selections were being made, the experts said, "Well, first of all there's Cobb." His name led all the rest. And for the twenty-four years heplayed he led all the rest--in hitting, base stealing, run making--in everything. He is remembered as a base runner and hitter but he was spectacular in the outfield although his arm was considered little better than average. Even so, he led the league

in assists one year. As for his batting, he had no peer and it is unlikely that he ever will have. . . remember, that Cobb never got anything but the best from the pitchers he faced. They never eased up on him. They worked the corners and fed him everyknown trick delivery. . . . Cobb was King. ( The Story of Baseball by John Durant, 1947, pp. 68, 74, )1912 - STAR OF TIGER TEAM IN A CLASS BY HIMSELF --TY COBB IS KING OF BALL PLAYERS --"After seven years of work on the diamond Ty Cobb--Tyrus Raymond Cobb is his complete title--is without doubt the king of baseball players. The accompanying box

proves that he is a better offensive player than either Lajoie or Wagner, the only men who dispute his title. And where they come in to be compared in the same class with the Tiger is beyond the wildest dream of the writer. . . . Cobb may have a superiorin every department of the game, but all around he is the champion. Davy Jones, the former leftfielder of the Detroits, beat Cobb in a 100-yard race for a side bet one day last season. Surely Milan, of Washington, and Speaker, of Boston, have it on himin fielding. Birmingham Cree and a dozen others have a better arm. But where does this bunch compare with Cobb? Why, he would be worth them all put together if the bunch was on the market." ( Atlanta Georgian, January, 1912, by W. S. Farnsworth)1945 - "IT WAS TY COBB, THE GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER who ever lived, at present a very successful businessman, whom we wanted. . . .Esquire, the magazine, had asked us to secure Ty Cobb's services if possible, and we wouldn't have batted any eye, nor would Esquire have batted one of the pop eyes of the gentleman on its cover, if Mr. Cobb had suggested a stiff fee. If Mr. Cobb's services were actually to be paid for, on a business bases, in this situation something like $10,000 would have beenabout right. Ty is a good business man; and he knows it. And some say he's a difficult uncooperative type guy. Why, this greatest player who ever lived, this "difficult guy," this very busy man who had previously had not the slightest indication thathe would be asked to do this job--right there, then and there, without hesitation; gave two weeks of his time and a lot of work to the American kids who love baseball and promptly said he couldn't accept any money for working with a bunch of boys. . . .Weshall never forget Ty's unqualified first answer, "If you mean it, I'll do anything you say." (San Francisco Chronicle, April 27, 1945)

"He ran the bases as they never had been run before and never will be run again. He gave no quarter and he asked none. He took the extra chance, got that extra base. He was flame and fury. He was Ty Cobb. There will never be another."(Manning, Continued) (Detroit Times, February 18, 1960, Last of a series of 3 articles on Ty Cob)

acceptance the game could bestow--the first man to be enshrined in the Hall of fame. Cobb's accomplishments are so numerous that he virtually turned the record boods of baseball into an autobiography. (Sporting News, Jan. 24, 1862, pp. 12, column 5)He left a record of accomplishment that may some day be challenged but never surpassed.1937 - "Ty Cobb was a shining example of a brilliant but difficult temperament. He was the greatest player baseball has ever known. " (Baseball Magazine, July, 1937, pp. 308)1960 - "greatest baserunner of all time". . ."his super talent". . "There will never be another Ty Cobb. racing for the nearest base, his steel spikes glistening under the summer sun, a star hated, feared, and admired." (Hartford Times, April 16, 1960)

(Baseball Immortals by Ed Burkholder, 1955, pp. 28, 30)1926 - "The passing from the active field of the major leagues of Ty Cobb was recognized in these parts as the big news story that it undoubtedly was. Even the newspapers which had been filled with wet and dry propaganda prior to the election allowed

space even in the editorial columns to pay tribute to the Georgia Peach's greatness." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 2, column 5)1928 - "Men mobbed him if they could, yelled for his heart and shouted for his blood. Then they cooled down and shattered the welkin with plaudits for his might. They saw him throw an enemy camp into a ferment with one derisive twist of his fingersand thumb. They saw him disconcert nine men by his mere presence by his mere presence on the bases. They saw him perform miracles on the diamond, such miracles as no successor has ever bequeathed to baseball." (Sporting News, Sept. 27, 1928, pp. 4,col. 3)

1950 - "Smith declared that Ty Cobb was still his choice as the greatest ball player of all time despite Babe Ruth's prowess as a home run hitter. His said Bill Lange, old-time slugging outfielder with the White Stockings in the 90's, might haveapproached Cobb's greatness had he not retired at his peak." (Sporting News, May 3, 1950, pp. 42, column 5)1925 - Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the "Georgia Peach," who is without a doubt the greatest athlete of all time, is rapidly nearing the "dead line" of his scintillating baseball career. For twenty years Cobb has been making and breaking record on the diamond, andeach season finds him still hitting the ball, still fighting with amazing energy to win every game he starts." (Los Angeles Times, Nov 29, 1925, pg. A4)

1926 - "Ty Cobb. Will the world ever see his equal? For twenty-one years now he has led Father Time a merry chase, and has been giving that worthy gentleman, as well as the baseball prophets, the merry "Ha, Ha," ever since 1914, when the firstTy Cobb is slipping stories started to circulate. Cobb may not be the greatest manager in baseball, but he is its greatest player, and there never was a greater one before him." (Los Angeles Times, Apr 27, 1926, pg. B2)1926 - "We rise to the side of our contemporary expert, Ed Franey, who utters a loud and vehement protest against the theory that Babe Ruth is the greatest ballplayer. Babe is the best press-agented ballplayer and no mistake but he has a long way to

travel before he can begin to compare records with Ty Cobb or, to go back a little further, Honus Wagner and Nap Lajoie." (Los Angeles Times, July 31, 1926, pg. 11)1950 - "I'd like to join my fellow sports-page alumnus Henry McLemore in disagreeing with the "best athletes of the half century" picked by the Associated Press. Worst boner of all was picking Babe Ruth as the greatest ballplayer -- he couldn't carryTy Cobb's glove. Cobb was a better hitter, better fielder, better base runner, better contributor to the team's victory spirit." (Los Angeles Times, Mar 7, 1950, pg. A11927 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer. And he is still the greatest ballplayer. He plays not only with his legs and arms but with his brains. He thinks every second of the game and acts. In years gone by Ty would tell the pitcher he was goingdown to second on the next pitched ball. And he went. He doesn't do so much talking nowadays, but let his opponents for a second take their minds off him and he will do something that will tend to upset their equilibrium's. When Cobb is on the fieldhe considers every one of the opposing players his personal enemy. In his own mind his mission on any diamond is to win. On the ball field he never asked nor gave any quarter. Fight! Fight! Fight! That's his individual psychology when he dons a

To Be The Best Was Cobb's Obsession - Baseball and the human race never knew another like him. . . . he cared not that he wasn't always popular, only that he was forever the best. His rich ability earned for him the highest decoration of

1955 - "When Jim McAleer said "No" to Harry Baker, the St. Louis Browns lost the greatest ballplayer that ever played baseball. You may have guessed his name by now, as he was none other than the great Tyrus Raymond Cobb, better known as

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a uniform. Otherwise he is a genteel southern gentleman." (Los Angeles Times, May 8, 1927, pg. A4)1936 - "I think Ty Cobb was the greatest ball player who ever lived. Hans Wagner second." (Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1936, pg. A1)1946 - "Ty Cobb was and is the greatest baseball player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Jul 26, 1946, pg. 5)1953 - "The man who is generally regarded as baseball's No. 1 immortal . . . (Sporting News, February 25, 1953, pp. 11, column 1, "Ty Doesn't Believe Collins Had It on Him", by Prescott Sullivan, pp. 11, column 1-5)

1958 - "The greatest and richest of ball players was only 42 when he had to quit." (San Francisco Examiner, 1958?)1935 - . . . "Ty Cobb, the one and only. Ty ranks with Babe Ruth as baseball's greatest player". (Los Angeles Times, March 18, 1935, pp. 14, "The Sports X-Ray", by Bob Ray)1940 - "At that Earl (Hamilton) rolled up one pants leg and showed three ugly scars, lasting mementos from the fightingest, greatest player baseball ever had." (Los Angeles Times, March 14, 1940, pp. 24, "The Sports Ray", by Bob Ray)

1933 - "He has been named the greatest outfielder of all times. There have been outfielders at different periods of the game who surpass the Georgian's performance as a fielder and thrower, but there the argument ends. Speaker, who ranks but a fewpoints behind Cobb in all-around value, was superior to Cobb on the defensive. . . Cobb was never acclaimed as an artist in playing the outfield. He was more colorful, in many ways, than was Speaker, but in playing the position, the Peach didn't have theclass of Tris. The famous Georgian was brilliant, aggressive, fearless and dashing in all departments of the game, but his fame came chiefly as a batter and base runner. Speaker had dash and daring, too, could throw and run and his ability to come into take a short fly and to race far back to take a long drive will long be remembered. It was Speaker's original style that made him the outstanding player of an outfield position. There was nothing erratic, eccentric or temperamental about Speaker,

but when he cut loose in his outfield playing he was the personification of all that colorful, brilliant and impressive. Then this great outfielder was a batsman who I rate among the best." (Sporting News, January 5, 1933, pp. 5, column 1)1942 - "For many years we have been asked the same question, over and over: Who was the greatest player of all time?" . . . finally, we decided to put it to the ball players themselves. We addressed letters to about 100 former major league stars and managers and asked them the question. One hundred and two votes were cast and the answer is: Tyrus Raymond Cob. Not alone did the old ace players and pilots of the nation select Cob as the greatest player of all time but they made him their choice by

an overwhelming majority. He received 60 of the votes cast; the remaining 42 were divided among 14 players. . . So there you are. You know how the players stand. We know how they voted and why and we sincerely hope that this will provide a lasting answer to the question. (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13, " Greatest Player of All Time Survey", by JG Tayor Spink)1947 - "and that Cobb, the greatest player of all time, had been released. Just like that! (Judge Landis and 25 Years of Baseball, by JG Taylor Spink, 1947) (Actually ghost written by Fred Lieb, Spink signed off on it & endorsed it.)1945 - "My big thrill in baseball was Sisler's play in 1922, the year the Browns lost the pennant to the Yankees by a game. Ty Cobb was baseball's greatest player, but in 1922, when Sisler hit .420 and stole 51 bases, I think he was greater for oneseason than any player in the game." (Sporting News, Dec. 6, 1945, pp. 5, column 3)

1927 - "Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, the greatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime." (Sporting News, March 14,1929, pp. 5, column 2)1928 - "Ty Cobb Greatest Player. Ty Cobb, in the opinion of President Barnard of the American League, is the greatest player baseball has ever had." (Los Angeles Times, Aug. 19, 1928, pg. A3)

1983 - "Ty Cobb has to be recognized as the greatest ball player American baseball has had. . . . Yes, Tyrus Raymond Cobb from Georgia. Ty Cobb has to be No. 1 based upon the records. He was my idol. Opinions die, but his records live. And he was exciting on the field. . . . He was a tremendous player and he fought fair. He was the first man elected to the Hall of Fame." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)1938 - "Come to think of it, Cobb was the best. Ruth was the guy at the gate, but Ty could do things." (Sporting News, June 30, 1938, pp. 4, column 6)1938 - "In 49 years I have not seen a greater ball player than Ty Cobb. For batting, skill, speed, audacity, base-running achievements -- well he was in a class by himself. But when it comes to color, ability to draw the crowd, and appeal to the fans --Babe Ruth had no second. He was the greatest home run hitter, of course. But he also was the top card at the gate. Baseball has not seen anything approaching him, and the future will struggle in vain to match the Babe at the box office. Cobb had ahabit of Cobb had a habit of making enemies in the crowd. Ruth always made friends. He was an idol, a great showman -- and he never overdid his showmanship." (Sporting News, Aug. 25, 1938, pp. 4, column 6)1962 - "To me, the spectacle of Cobb stretching a double into a triple was always more exhilarating than a Ruthian homer." ( Baseball Wit and Wisdom by Frank Graham and Dick Hyman, 1962, pp. 68)"Then the crowd fell into a nervous silence that was a tribute accorded no other ball player I ever saw. . . Through the dust I saw him kick the ball out of Buck Weaver's hand, and break for home, and make it. He stood up, laughing. I sat there, sweating. For here, obviously, was something not quite of this world, cynical, merciless, a little frightening." (Esquire, Diamond Blues, by John K. Hutchens, sports)1940's - Suddenly Larry stopped, grabbed us by the arm, and said: "You and I saw Cobb in his great years. Remembering him as he was, don't you often get weary watching the humpty dumpties that are drawing pay as big league players today?"

1926 - "Ty Cobb's great record is a common theme in baseball. People assume, quite as a matter of course, that this record has never been equaled. They are right. And yet, perhaps few of those fans, who are most ready with their praise, most eagerto crown the Tigers' manager with a laurel wreath, as the one peerless player of all time, could give you more than a fragmentary argument as to why he should be thus honored. Fortunately Ty's supremacy is not a mere opinion. There are many facts which can be drawn from the records to convince even the most skeptical. The pedestal upon which Cobb towers above all his fellows, past or present, is founded upon the imperishable records of the game. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1926, pp. 453, column 1)1961 - "Ours was a friendship of long standing. He played for me at New Haven(CT), where there was no Sunday baseball in New York and was a stockholder with me at New Haven. Only last summer he was my guest at a Baltimore series in Yankee stadium. His death is still a real shock although we knew he was failing." "There was no denying that Cobb stood alone as a baseball player, undoubtedly the greatest of all." (By Associated Press, July 18, 1961, pp. 21)1909 - No man is a better judge of ball players than Hanlon. He has seen them all for the past 30 years, and praise from him is praise indeed. This is what he said of Ty Cobb:

"I don't believe that the ball player ever lived who had anything on Cobb. He is surely in a class by himself. His remarkable hitting ability, his fielding, speed, and nerve make him to my mind the greatest player the game has ever developed.doubt whether Cobb is appreciated as he deserves to be. He is a wonder." (Washington Post, Sept. 23, 1909, pp. 8, "Tigers Pound Walker" by J. Ed Grillo)1950 - "Wagner and Cobb are still regarded as the bet all-around ballplayers America has produced. (Holiday magazine, May, 1950,

1948 - Edward Browning was a scorecard concessionaire at Sportsman Park, for the St. Louis Browns from1902 and the Cardinals from 1918. He watched them come and go in the Big Time, and usually managed to watch four or five innings of every gameplayed at the park. But his favorite, as yellow clippings on the wall of his small shop under the stands at Sportsman's Park indicated, was Ty Cobb. "It will be a long time," he would conclude his dissertation on Cobb, "It will be a long time," he would conclude his dissertation on Cobb, "before I see another man like that." (Sporting News, June 30, 1948, pp. 37, column 1)

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1953 - "Of all the ball players he ever met, Morrow held Ty Cobb in the greatest admiration. "He was by far the greatest player of all time," Henry said. "He was so far ahead there was not even a runner-up." When Cobb broke into the majors, he used a

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44-ounce hat, but with advancing years he gradually reduced the weight, until he was using a 38-ounce stick when he retired. (Sporting News, January 21, 1953, pp. 17, column 1, necrology)1937 - "While on the subject of those heroes, Matty was the best pitcher, Wagner the best infielder, Cobb the outfield marvel. Ruth was a grand guy, always obliging. But strictly a specialist in the home run. Not a Cobb all around. Chase was thegreatest first basemen. Too bad about Hal. But when he had it, he HAD it. (Sporting News, May 27, 1937, pp. 4, column 6)1994 - "Baseball's greatest player --Tyrus Raymond Cobb --died today in his native Georgia." Spoken over PA system in Detroit by Ernie Harwell, the night Ty died, July 17, 1961. "On that long-ago summer night, I pronounced Ty Cobb the greatest of them

all. No one has come along since to make me change my mind, although several of his important records have been broken since his death. . . . Not only did we school boys and our fathers consider the Georgia Peach the greatest ballplayer of all--greaterthan even Babe Ruth--he was one of our state's most famous native sons. (Ty Cobb by Richard Bak,1994, pp. x1, xii)1928 - "Dear Mr. Lane, Now I wish to speak to some of the 2-game a year fans who know more than John McGraw. Those of you who are yelling about Rogers Hornsby and Babe Ruth as being the greatest batsmen and players of all time. Did you ever see Ruthplace a pretty bunt and beat it out, steal bases and slide all over the field, and did you ever see Hornsby slide? When Hornsby is coaching on a baseline he stands there, never says a word, nor moves, dead on his feet, in the field he's the same. Now the other side of it, who of you ever saw Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach, the greatest ball player who ever swung a bat? Always scrapping, fighting, taking chances. Cobb uses more energy on the coaching line than Hornsby does in the game. Ty plays baseball, Hornsby and Ruth are all for long hitting. Anybody big enough can hit 'em a mile but none but Ty can bat like he did and still does after 20 years. Who can run like him? Slide like him? Fight like him? Cobb can't lose. It isn't inhim. He would have made good in any business. So when you look for a model of playing greatness, boys, pick the greatest example of red blooded American athlete in the greatest game,the Immortal Tyrus Raymond Cobb, Georgia Peach. signed: Harold Seymour (Baseball Magazine, January, 1928, pp. 380, "Our Letter Box, fan letters to the editor, pp. 379-383)

1990 - "I read about 'role models' now. I guess if I had one it was Ty Cobb. I used to read everything in the New York Sun on him, and I saw him play. I just wrote a review of a book on him.. Now it's shown that he was a driven man, a psycho.A great ballplayer, of course, maybe the greatest of them all. Maybe -- it's hard to say. Ruth would certainly be in there. Ruth wasn't a specialist. He hit for average as well as for distance. And of course he was a star pitcher as well, but I don'tthink anyone ever hit a home run as he did. He was hitting when home runs were very unusual. He hit more home runs than the whole team, and way ahead of the league. But Cobb was the type of player who had this tremendous aggressive spirit, and he was

not only fast but a daring and intrepid baserunner, constantly had the other team on the defense. He was an expert hitter, held his hands apart or slid the upper hand down, hit the ball, bunted -- he was great at upsetting a team, crossing them up,pulling the unexpected, using all kinds of psychological tricks. Pete Rose was a top-flight hitter, but to compare Pete Rose with Ty Cobb is ludicrous." (The National Pastime, by SABR, 1990, #10, pp. 68, column 1)

1920 - "Miller Huggins, boss of the Yanks and a smart baseball man, was discussing Ruth with the writer(Harry Salsinger) a few days ago. "There isn't any doubt that Ruth is the greatest drawing card of all time," said Huggins. "He pulls them in. He makes the turnstiles click. Cobb, admittedly the greatest player of the game, never was a drawing card to compare with Ruth. Have you figured out why? You know the American sport-loving public likes the fellow who carries the wallop. It is so in golf,in boxing, and in various other sports. It would naturally be that way in baseball. The fellow who can pound the ball is always the fellow that will win the hearts of the bleachers. He gets their affections. Cobb, brilliant as he is, appeals to only a portion of baseball followers. Cobb is the idol of the students of baseball, but all those interested in the game are not students; most of them miss the fine points, the inner dope. Cobb cannot

be fully appreciated unless you are a student of baseball. If you have made a close study of the game, Cobb is a marvel to you and there is no one near him. There is but one Cobb. But Ruth appeals to everybody. No matter how much of a novice atbaseball a man may be, he will appreciate Ruth, for Ruth busts that ball and as I remarked they like the fellow who busts them. So, while Cobb appealed to only a few, comparatively, who could fully understand and appreciate his finesse, Ruth appeals toeverybody. They all flock to see him." (The Sporting News, August 12, 1920, pp. 3, column 5) (Above conversation occurred between Huggins & Detroit sp. ed. Harry Salsinger when Yankees visited Detroit in Aug.,'20 for series with Tigers.)1929 - "It took him nearly two seconds to name his outfield--Ty Cobb. Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. Who could hope to compete with a set of outfielders like that?" He asked. "Cobb, of course, has first call as the greatest all round man in the trio."The greatest player of all time? 'Wagner or Cobb', take your choice. Still I'm inclined to consider a good infielder more important to a team than a good outfielder." said Huggins. (Washington Post, Feb. 5, 1929, pp. 20, "Cobb, Speaker, Ruth Best Outfield", by William J. Dunn)1929 - Barrow selected his 5 Greatest Ever Players. 1. Wagner, 2. Cobb, 3. Lajoie, 4. Ruth, 5. Speaker (Sporting News, Feb. 28, 1929, pp. 4, column 6) Confirmed order in his autobiography (My Fifty Years In Baseball by Ed Barrow, 1951, pp. 33)1951 - "Hans Wagner is the greatest ballplayer of all time. The Flying Dutchman stands alone. Babe Ruth was the game's greatest personality, and its greatest home run hitter. Ty Cobb was the greatest of the hitters and the only man I ever saw who could unnerve a whole ball club single-handed, though I have always had a tremendous admiration for Larry Lajoie and consider him only a step behind Cobb as the greatest batsman of them all. But there is no question that Wagner was the greatest all-around ballplayer who ever lived. (My Fifty Years in Baseball by Edward Grant Barrow with James M. Kahn, 1951, pp. 33)

1951 - "When I saw Cobb at the gathering of old-timers for the seventy-fifth anniversary party of the National League, he was a reserved and poised man of sixty-five, somewhat mellowed by the years. But the vision of him running wild on the bases,harassing the pitchers, taunting the catchers, and announcing boldly he was going to steal second on the next pitch, fighting, clawing, and generally throwing the whole other side into confusion, can never be erased from the minds of those who saw himthrough the many years of his greatness. He was the man of a half century. I doubt that baseball will ever see his like again." (My Fifty Years in Baseball by Edward Grant Barrow with James M. Kahn, 1951, pp. 194)1939 - "Pennock said it was foolish to say that the Yankees of 1938 or 1937 were tops. The best club, he emphasized, was New York of 1927, for which he pitched. .Bill Dickey, Pennock said, is the greatest catcher of all time. Walter Johnson and Lefty Grove were, in his book, the best pitchers. The greatest natural hitter was Joe Jackson, he believes, but as the greatest hitter for results, he chooses Ty Cobb. Ruth, he added, was No. 2 in his list of natural hitters. Cobb, said Herb, made himselfa wonder, with his confidence, audacity, speed, aggressiveness and determination." (Sporting News, June 8, 1939, pp. 6, column 3)1945 - "The greatest hitters in the past three decades--and by that reference, is not meant the most spectacular, like Ruth, but the most consistent, like Ty Cobb, Paul Waner, Joe Sewell, Whitey Witt, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial--were allmen who took a short stride. . . It was almost impossible to fool Sewell. He leveled his bat with the skill of a machine gunner and popped the pitches to left and right, depending on where the ball was thrown.

He struck out only 3 or 4 times a season. (Sporting News, March 15, 1945, pp. 2, column 4)1939 - "Considers Ty Cobb greatest player he ever saw. Has deep regard for memory of both McGraw and Huggins." (Sporting News, September 28, 1939, pp. 7, column 3, Daguerreotypes)

1977 - "There are three of them it's awfully hard to judge between: Williams, Jackson, and Cobb. I'd say that Cobb was the greatest all-around player I ever saw, and the smartest. He studied everything. He'd get to know how you were trying to pitchhim, and he'd shift his feet accordingly. If he knew you were watching his feet, he'd wait until the very last second before he did it. And if you did manage to fool him with a pitch, then he was quick enough up there to bunt at you and beat it out.(Shawkey, continued), (The Man in the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 170-171)

1929 - One of the finest tributes to Cobb's genius came from a ball player, a star himself, Everett Scott: "He is the only man in baseball who ever gave me a thrill. In retiring from the game I'll carry one picture with me always, Cobb tearing down the

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base line. If I live to be 100 I'll never see a more fascinating picture than he made. He was a cyclone, a tornado, a typhoon all rolled into one." (Jan.19,1929 - Joe Williams Baseball Reader by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 17)1942 - "Yes, Ty Cobb was a character, as well as probably the greatest ball player that ever lived," Scott said. (Sporting News, October 29, 1942, pp. 6, column 4)1961 - "Even if a player didn't like Ty Cobb, he had to admit the Georgia Peach was great, says Stan Coveleski, who was an American League pitcher('16-28) during Ty's prime. I personally liked Cobb," said the 72-year-old Coveleski. "A lot of theplayers didn't, however. But no one could say he wasn't great. You had to see him to believe one man could be that good. "In the outfield he was terrific. And he got on base so much that he drove the pitchers and catchers crazy trying to catch him.

He was fast, really fast. But the best thing about his ability to steal bases was his slide." (Sporting News, Sept. 13, 1961, pp. 15, column 4 & 5)

1934 - "The most flashy ballplayer I ever was, or ever hope to see, was Ty Cobb. Ty was certainly endowed with amazing mechanical abilities. He was fast as chain lightening , had an uncanny knack of making a quick start, was a good batter and anatural base-runner. Mechanically, Cobb would have been a great player, one of the leading dozen of his day. But Cobb's rise to greatness was due to headwork. He was always a keen student of baseball. He was a past master of player psychology. He wasresourceful, audacious and tricky. He became one of the smartest players who ever lived. And it was his baseball smartness, coupled with speed of foot and other mechanical gifts, that made him the most sensational player in the history of the game." Ty Cobb was, undoubtedly, the smartest batter who ever lived. Ty was a left-hander, and like most left-handers, hit hardest to right field. Ty, nevertheless, generally hit toward left field. That was because he played the percentages. He could beatout an infield hit to shortstop. An infield grounder to second base would catch him at first." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1934, pp. 400, 426, "The Mental Side of Baseball, interview with Muddy Ruel, pp. 399-400, 426)1983 - "Ty Cobb. He was a great ballplayer," said Sewell. "He was just my idol. He was the greatest baseball player I've seen in the major leagues from the 1920s to the present day. Yes, Ty Cobb is the greatest ballplayer I've seen yet. I've played

with Babe Ruth and roomed with Lou Gehrig, seen Tris Speaker, George Sisler, and a lot of those great players…DiMaggio, Willie Mays, but Ty Cobb could do more things, and do more things to beat ya. . . . "Overall, Ty Cobb could do so many things to beatya. He was fast, a great outfielder, great hitter, and he was highly intelligent. Don't forget that." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)1961 - "But Ty and I later reviewed it often and became great friends in late years. I respected him. He was a tough baby on the field. Don't think that he couldn't play the game better than any other man." Baker said without qualification Cobb was

the outstanding player of all time, even putting him ahead of Babe Ruth for complete ability. . . He was hot-headed in a game and possibly he was misunderstood," added Baker. "I don't think Ty was a mean man, just that he was reckless on the bases andcame into you like a ton of bricks. .I just never saw a man demand as much attention by the other team. There was Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio and now Mantle. All great players but they didn't get the attention Cobb got from the other teams.(Baker, continued) (Baltimore News-Post, July 18, 1961, by John F. Steadman)1942 - "He wasn't the slugger that Babe Ruth was, but he could do everything else." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the

1944 - "I guess I was lucky," interjected Roger Peckinpaugh. "I don't know how many times I tagged Ty out at second base, yet he never so much as spiked me. On his slide to second, he'd usually throw his feet out toward center field, and try to grabthe base with his hand. I'll never forget the feeling, though--just knowing that guy was taking that big lead off first and would be coming at me any second." (Sporting News, April 13, 1944, pp. 17, column 4, Inside Pitches column by Galleyproof Gus)1977 - "Cobb was the greatest of all, in my book. In addition to everything else, he was a smart ballplayer. He never had one spot where he stood in the batters box. He stood in different places for different pitchers, according to what they had and

how they pitched him. I never saw another hitter do that. They have one spot and that's it. I'll tell you, they never threw at Cobb very much. If they did, he'd step out and warn them. "Don't do that again," he'd say. And if they did, he would drag a bunt down to first, and if the pitcher covered, Ty would knock him for a loop. So they seldom threw at him. He was a tough monkey, that guy. A real tough monkey. He played a slashing game out there. You could be behind ten runs, and he'd still comeinto second base and bat you around." (The Man in the Dugout by Donald Honig, 1977, pp. 219)1942 - "He had everything, believe me." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?" 1931 - "I give Wagner first place, he says. "He could do everything and is the greatest I've ever seen. Cobb gets second place with me. Why name more? They stand alone." "But I want five selections, Mr. Burke," I said. "Well, that's a toughassignment. When you get through with Wagner and Cobb, you run into trouble. (Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan (The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)

1942 - "He had the finest coordination I ever saw in a player. Because of his mental and mechanical ability, and his marvelous application of the two, he could do everything exceptionally well." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey)Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "His dash, color, aggressiveness, hitting, and speed on the bases were beautiful to watch." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers.

It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "The greatest ball player was Ty Cobb--though none of us was crazy about him when he played. However, you had to admire him for his ability. Once he got on the bases, he had the pitchers up in the air until he got off. There didn't seem to beanything that he couldn't do." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1945 - "Cobb, of course, was the greatest of them all," Lewis went on. "I used to like to play against Detroit just so I could watch Ty. He could do everything and he never cared who was pitching."(Baseball Magazine, May, 1945, pp. 388, column 3, "Duffy Lewis Recalls--by Ed Rumill)

Ty critics like to sneer that Ty's own teammates either openly hated him or disliked him intensely. While that was true with a few of them, many liked him. All knew that they needed him to win. He who laughs last, laughs best. The following all ended up calling Ty the best that ever lived. Let this give the lie to Ty's critics. Many more liked him than not, even if some of them had to evolve over time.

1912 - "Cobb is a dashing player who always takes chances, and exerts himself to the utmost. He plays well within the rules of the game. . . . But I know that he never intentionally injured a player at any time. . . . It is hard to estimate what Cobb'sworth is to the Detroit team. He is its mainstay in batting and base running, and one of its strongest features in defensive work. His wonderful record on the diamond has made him a popular idol throughout the circuits, and I have no doubt that he hasacted as a drawing card in luring many thousands of spectators every season to the games in which he participated. He is a player whom everybody likes to see on the field, for he always does his best. The bleachers are crowded with fans who come to see

him play, expecting something startling, something unusual, and Cobb seldom disappoints them. I believe he was in large measure responsible for the wonderful success of the Detroit team in winning three pennants in succession. . . . In my long career on the diamond, both as player and manager, I have come in contact with most of the leading stars of the game, past and present, and I can say without prejudice, and I believe no one will accuse me of partiality, that I claim for Cobb the distinction ofbeing the greatest player baseball has ever known." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 15-17, How the Greatest Player in the History of the Game Looks to His Own Manager, by Hugh Jennings)

continue coming down for several years and still have the edge on other players. He can continue playing for years and years and still rank on top." (Sporting News, December 4, 1919, pp. 2, column 2, picked up Detroit, Mich., Dec.1-)1920 - "People seem to be fond of comparing George Sisler with Ty Cobb just now. It has become a popular sport, almost a fad. He is, I am informed, a very likable young fellow and his temperament is of the type which never antagonizes or makes

- "Of course, you also realize that in spite of this perceptible slowing up Cobb is still the greatest player in the game today; he is that by long and far. The beauty about him is that he went so high that he can

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enemies. Such a disposition is an admirable one in the business world or in social intercourse. But it has its drawbacks on the diamond. Baseball is far from a parlor sport and while it is lacking, or should be lacing in the blood and bruises which toooften characterize football, it is, nevertheless, a pretty strenuous sport. the domineering, aggressive type of player who runs rough shod over everything between him and his goal is the type which will carry furthest on the diamond. Cobb isdistinctly of that type. He is restless and ambitious and aggressive. He is fair, but he wants all the law allows him. Any advantage which comes his way he will utilize to the full. It is his temperament quite as much as his extraordinary talentswhich has carried him at a tremendous pace through fifteen years of strenuous work. Sisler is entirely different. He is quiet, almost backward in his way. He never seems to court the limelight as Cobb loves to do. He evidently hasn't the knack of

pushing himself forward. He depends entirely upon his marvelous ability and strict application to business. A very worthy ideal, but unless he changes somewhat, or uncovers talents to outshine those of Cobb, if such a thing be possible, I doubt if hewill ever be Cobb's equal as a personality on the diamond. After all, it is color quite as much as anything else which attracts the public to a player. Cobb has a lot of vivid color. Sisler has little. Cobb has that about him which makes him a greatdrawing card. People admire Sisler and appreciate his record, but they are hardly thrilled by his exploits as Cobb used to sway the audience. In short, Cobb outclasses Sisler in his direct appeal to the public. . . .Personally I am inclined to believethat he is good as Cobb in natural ability as a hitter. And he seems to be making the best use of his natural ability on the bases. Sisler is just as fast as Cobb in his prime, and he is certainly not lacking in intelligence. But I doubt if he willever be Cobb's equal as a base runner. Cobb has developed a slide into the bag which no modern player can equal. The only men I ever saw in my experience who could approach it were Joe Kelly and Wild Bill Dahlen. Cobb's base running is not altogether amatter of speed or knack or even brains, though he uses all three. His slide easily puts him is a class by himself. It is more than a fall away slide, although it is generally called that. He throws himself away from the baseman and around him,catching the bag with his toe or his hand. This is a stunt for a contortionist. It has caused endless arguments in the stand when Cobb has seemed to be out at second or third while the umpire insisted on calling him safe. Most of the time, at least,he was safe. Other players would have been out, but not Cobb. He had eluded the baseman's groping hand and wriggled back to the bag like an eel. It is certainly a masterpiece, that slippery, baffling slide of Ty's. Sisler has a good slide and is a

finished base runner in every respect, but when you compare him with Cobb, you compare him with a master who has had no equal as a base runner, at least in recent years. Of course, it is impossible to speak of leading stars without mentioning Babe Ruth. Ruth deserves all the notice he has been getting. He is the king of sluggers. And the public likes sluggers. A slugging team like the Yankees will always be a drawing card. In the long run, however, it isn't slugging so much as other things which winpennants and it isn't slugging which sticks in the public memory. . . . Slugging will always appeal to the crowd because it is so obvious. If a batter knocks the ball over the fence you can see it go. That is Ruth's favorite stunt. Of course, the man

has uncommon batting ability, but after all, it is the beef that does it. Let a brainy player, however, like Eddie Foster engineer a hit and run play that would win the game equally well, and the fine details of that play would be lost on the crowd.Baseball ,at least baseball popularity, is a fine example of the old adage, "Seeing is believing." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1921, pp. 468, interview with Hugh Jennings before he had resigned with the Detroit Tigers, in late 1920.1921 - "They can laud Babe Ruth to the skies", he said, "but there will never be another Ty Cobb. He is the greatest man who ever played baseball, and I believe that today he is just as valuable to a team as Ruth. He may not clout them as far, but he clouts them oftener and is still the quickest thinker in baseball." (Sporting News, December 8, 1921, pp. 3, column 3)1925 - "In Cobb we have the most temperamental and also the greatest of all ball players . . .Cobb was a law unto himself and by being permitted to work our all his own plays and plans unhampered by any managerial restrictions that others players wereunder, he developed himself into the most remarkable ball player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Dec 31, 1925, pg. A11)1926 - "Ty Cobb is unquestionably the greatest player of all time." (Los Angeles Times, Feb 3, 1926, pg. B3)1915 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest player in baseball," Bill Donovan has been quoted as saying. "He is in a class by himself. I have seen all the stars in my time, but there's nobody in Cob's class when it comes to hitting, fielding, and base running. He

is the quickest thinker in the game and is a wonder at figuring out plays before they are made. When Cobb hits the ball he sees at a glance just how far he can run around the bases. He times his arrival at a certain bag to the fraction of a second. He seldom hits at bad balls and his confidence is remarkable." (Washington Post, Feb. 26, 1915, pp. 8, " 'Griff' " May Drop Men Before Training Trip" by Stanley T. Milliken)1942 - "He had baseball intuition. He was a hard, clean ball player. Sure, he was tough, but you had to be in those days."(Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1919 - "Ty Cobb is undoubtedly the greatest player in the world, but he has been with Detroit for many years since that club won its last pennant." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1919, pp. 209, "Examples of a One Man Team, by Ralph T. Works, pp. 209-210)

1937 - "Cobb and I have since become the best of friends, and I regard him as the greatest all-round player that ever lived. The greatest batter of 'em all was Joe Jackson; the greatest fielder, Tris Speaker, but Cobb could do so many things neitherof them could do, that you have to rate him top," insists Ol' Os. (Sporting News, November 18, 1937, pp. 3, column )1942 - "You know what he could do. I don't have to tell you."

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1982- "I got along fine with Cobb. I'll tell you, to me he was the greatest all-around player who ever lived. He did everything--run, hit, field. . . Imagine hitting .367 lifetime! . . . If Cobb was playing today with that artificial grass, they'd never get him out. As a manager, Cobb was all right. . . See that green chair and TV over there? I watch games all the time." (Cobb Would Have Caught It, by Richard Bak, 1991, pp. 147-148. Interview with Richard Bak, July, 1982)1942 - "He had the finest competitive spirit of any player I ever saw or heard about."(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1937 - He spent many years with the detroit tigers as first string catcher and regards Ty Cob as the greatest player of all time. (Los Angeles Times, May 26, 1937, pp. A13, "Johnny Bassler Likely to Make Good as New Boss of Seatte Club After Succeeding

1975 - "Try not to get out of a game without a hit." That's one of the things he tried to impress upon me: Never give up. No matter what the score is, no matter what the situation. Always try harder and harder to get that base hit. That's what hepreached, and that's what he practiced. Every time at bat for him was a crusade, and that's why he's off in a circle by himself." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real, by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 42)2004 - I wrote Mrs. Josephine Gehringer, Charlie's widow, to ask her who her late husband had considered the best ballplayer ever. and she wrote me back this very nice reply. "Dear Bill - In Charlie's opinion, he said Ty Cobb was the best all around

player. He was manager of the Detroit Tigers at one time and took a liking to him and game him hitting instructions. He always said he played in the best era, 30 & 40 with players hitting 300 or better. He played against Ted Williams, Ruth, Gehrig andLefty Grove who were great, but Cobb was more superior. Mrs G.1942 - "He loved to win." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1961 - "Personally, he was hard to get along with. We didn't get along too well, but I've got to give it to him: I just can't envision anybody in baseball ever being as great. He had no weakness, unless you consider his throwing in the later years.. . . .He was terrific. His best game? He was sensational in every game." (New York Times, July 17, 1961)1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

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That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)1949 - "He was, of course, supreme." (Sporting News, April 9, 1949, pp. 14, column 2, "In One Lesson, Neun Explains Stealing is Not Only Objective", by Joe Williams, of the New York World -Telegram)

1931 - "When an infielder doesn't give the runner a piece of the bag to get into, he deserves to be spiked. Ty Cob taught me that. Many people thought that Ty was always going out of his way to spike players. I played with him and knew him well. Ty just demanded his rights and when his rivals wouldn't give them to him he fought for them, and how! And speaking of Cob, there was the greatest ballplayer of all time. He could do everything well and what a fighter he was. He was greatlymisunderstood, however. Burns says the greatest pitcher the game has produced was Walter Johnson. There was a real man as well as a pitcher. (Los Angeles Times, May 24, 1931, pp. F4, "Burns Makes Hit As Mission Pilot, by Bob Ray)1939 - "Unquestionably, the greatest ball player who ever lived - by far. And he would have been a great banker, an outstanding industrialist, a famous general, or a potent figure in any field he chose. No other man I've ever known had Ty Cobb'sfrenzy for excellence, his self-discipline of his tremendous application. I call him the best friend I ever had in baseball." (Washington Post, June 12,1939, pp. 19, "This Morning With Shirley Povich") 1947 - "Cobb never hit more than 12 home runs in any single season, but he was the greatest ball player who ever stepped on a field." (Sporting News, Apr. 30, 1947, pp. 8, column 1, "Too Much Brawn, Not Enough Brain, Heilmann Answer to Low Bat Marks")1982 - "but I got attached to the playing of Ty Cobb. And I don't know, but he just stood for my hero. I was just crazy about Ty Cobb, I was just crazy about that man. I looked up to that fella. I still got his picture in my den here. It's a funny

thing. The opposition hated Cobb. I mean, he was a hustler and he'd spike you to get that base. A lot of the players on that Detroit club didn't like him because he was tough. Harry Heilmann didn't think much of him, and neither did Ken Holloway or George Dauss. But me and Cobb always got along great. Always did. I thought a lot of him and he thought a lot of me. Cobb didn't hit home runs hardly at all. Doubles now and then, but mostly singles. He aimed for the pitcher's box all the time.He's the hustlingest player of all time. There's never been another since him, though Pete Rose is close to him. I can't complain about Cobb one bit. He was real nice to me. As a manager, Ty did the best he could. Cobb knew his job, which was

hitting, but I remember he didn't know that much about pitching." ( Cobb Would Have Caught It, by Richard Bak, 1991, Interview with Richard Bak, September, 1982, pp. 152-156)1970 - But, As Cole says, he got along better with Cobb than most. He discounts the stories about Cobb's being penurious, mean and selfish. "Cobb wasn't inherently mean or really stingy. He was just fanatical about winning. When he won, nothing was too good for us. There was steak for everybody. When we lost, he wouldn't even give you conversation. . ."He could also have been a home run hitter. He was big and strong enough. But he actually enjoyed outsmarting rather than over-powering opponents.He was virtually impossible to get out with a runner on first if the first baseman was holding the runner. He could hit it through that little extra hole almost every time. I'll bet he hit .500 in those situations. . . .And a lot of people think he did it all on brains and guts. But he had great speed. He was once timed -- in a baseball uniform at 9.9 in a 100 yard sprint. . . . When I broke in, he and Harry Heilmann were having a helluva race for the batting title, and suddenly Harry went into amonth-long slump. "Ty had Harry off in the corner of the park everyday for hours before each game trying to figure out ways to break him out of that slump. Well, Ty was a tremendous batting instructor, and he pulled Harry out of it." That was the yearHeilmann hit .394, Cobb .389, and Heilmann took the batting title.1932-33 - "Cobb," he says, "was a natural coach. He took an interest in other players who were willing to listen to him, and was always dropping hints on how they stood at bat, their swing and the way they gripped the handle of their bats.He was a keen

observer and understood more of the true science of batting than any other player. No doubt he helped me from time to time, and that is important. But that is as far as I would care to go with any coach. The best he can do is to help. What a playerdoes is his own affair. He stands or falls on his own efforts. Cobb was the best teacher of hitting that I have ever known, and others agree with me in that opinion. But I can not believe that Cobb or anyone else could ever teach a mediocre hitter howto be a great hitter." (Baseball Magazine, 1932-33, pp. 545)1964 - Heinie Manush, a teammate of Cobb's, picked Ty, too. ((Sport, August, 1964, pp. 87, by Joe Reichler, Living Hall of Famers Pick The Greatest Centerfielder Ever, pp. 15-16, 87-88)1969 - "I'd take Cobb over Ruth," declared Heinie Manush. "Why? Because although Ruth could beat you with one swish of his bat, Cobb could beat you several ways. He might only single, but it didn't take him long to come all the way around."(Manush, continued), (Baseball Digest, Nov., 1969, pp. 20-24)1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1961 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had

chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that."(Baker, continued), (Sporting News, Jan. 10, 1962, pp. 14, column 4)1931 - Dan Howley, manager of the Cincinnati Reds and former leader of the St. Louis Browns and 1926 pennant-winning Toronto Leafs in the International League is another Cobb admirer. "Ty first without a doubt," he said. "No one ever approached him. I'll give Wagner second and that's all I'll name. I think Al Simmons is the best ball player in the game right now. I might name Al, but what about Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth and Bill Terry amongthe present-day players, and Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker among the older fellows? I can't include them all in your list, so I'll pick only Cobb and Wagner."(Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan, -- The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)1929 - "And, as for playing ability," Haney went on, "any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, Fred finished up, "he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't haveco-operated with anybody." (Sporting News, April, 1929, pp. 3, column 2-6, "Ty Cobb, A Failure as Manager? 'No,' Says Fred Haney, Who Should Know, pp. 3 )

1964 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb was the greatest ballplayer of them all. What he possessed, and to a superlative degree, was determination. I was a rookie with the 1922 Detroit team for which Cobb was player and manager. He had always been my idol; now I had a chance to observe him first-hand. Sitting on the bench, I would pull my cap down over my face and use one of the eyelets as a telescope, narrowing my vision so that I saw Cobb and Cobb alone. What a sight he was as he prepared to bat! The muscles of his jaw tensed; his bright blue eyes began to blaze; his forehead furrowed into an intense frown. He was working himself into a fury--a fierce determination to dominate the pitcher, to hit the ball. By the time he stepped into the batter's box, you

could almost see sparks in the air. He dared them all; and one way or another, he hit them all. He drove infielders crazy. He tried to excel at everything he did. Cobb was determined to be the best of them all, and he was. Most of the records that heset have never been broken and probably never will be. Many a down-and-out old ball player or ballplayer's widow lived for years on his anonymous generosity. (June, 1964)1964 - Yep, I played during the years when Cobb was in his prime, and I was a shortstop. But I never had any trouble with Cobb and those spikes of his. Got it in the glove and threw it down to the base. That's all. Went over to Detroit with him as a coach for a few years after I got through playing with Washington. Some say as he was a dirty ballplayer, but I say he was a good hard ballplayer. There are some players who didn't like him, but you know he was a ballplayer's ballplayer. He hustled outthere. I think he was as fast as anybody, from home to home. I mean, all the way around. Good strong arm. Baserunner…oh, boy. He'd steal on those pitchers. 'Course I played with Honus Wagner, too. He was a great ballplayer. Awkward, but he hadeverything. Good legs, big hands. Cobb was a different type. Cobb was a harder ballplayer than Wagner. I think Cobb was the best I ever saw, really. "Course Ruth was another type. He was a great pitcher. I hit against him, and he was a great

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1932 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblycould help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is thetip-off on how he registered with me." (Literary Digest, Jan. 1932, In answer to question, "Who was your baseball hero?" (Also appeared in Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, by Frank Graham)1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

1928 - "People have wondered if Ty Cobb's presence in the outfield didn't help me with my batting last year. Ty is a great hitter and he understands batting. Besides, he is always ready to give advice. I'll say for Ty that he could give anybody a fewhints that would be worth while. I didn't change my batting style to any extent last season, although Ty did persuade me to alter my stance in the batter's box against some left handed pitchers. This suggestion of his proved helpful. (Baseball

1942 - "I never expect to see another player like him." (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "Many folks have asked me if Ty Cobb helped me in 1927 and 1928, when he was with us. The answer is definitely, "Yes." Ty had the championship attitude, if anyone ever had. He gave me many valuable pointers. He was an inspiration." (Sporting

1944 - "Ty Cobb helped me when he came to the Athletics years ago and I was just a kid," Simmons said. "He taught me to crouch a little and bend over the plate, with my arms away from my body. In that position I learned to follow the ball from theGuide stance would hurt my power. Connie Mack must have felt that way, too, because he let me alone. So, although Tyrus Raymond Cobb made me over above the waist, I didn't change below it. And I'm very glad I didn't." (Baseball Magazine, Sept., 1944)1953 - "I owe a lot to Ty Cobb, too. I learned a lot from him when we were roommates the last two years he played for Mr. Mack." (Sporting News, August 5, 1953, pp. 5, column 2)1942 - "He had the baseball sense to grasp any situation." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player surveySporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?")1961 - "He hated to lose. He wanted to lead the league in hitting every year. He loved to hit and he loved to slide. The skin of his legs and hips was always raw." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1931 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player I ever saw. Wagner is next. That's all I want to pick. Go see Connie Mack and find out what he says."(Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managersand coaches, Who they thought were the 5 greatest all-around baseball players who ever lived.)

1931 - On his seventieth birthday (Dec. 22, 1931), named Cobb as the greatest. "Ty Cobb was the greatest player of all, and there never was a pitcher to compare to Christy Mathewson. Of those two I am certain. You can argue about the rest."(New York Times, December 24, 1931, pp. 21, "Connie Mack, Entering his 70th Year, Impressed By Evenness Of Competition In Big Leagues", Picked up story by Associated Press, from Philadelphia, Dec. 23)1938 - Ty Cobb was by far the greatest player of all time," the venerable Connie told me. "He was in a class by himself. In saying this, it is not because Ty was an American League player. I have seen many great players in the National League--Wagner,Mathewson and Lajoie, who later came over to our league, also those earlier players, Buck Ewing, King Kelly, Cap Anson and many others. In our league, we have had Speaker, Eddie Collins, Ruth, Gehrig, Al Simmons,Cochrane and Gehringer, all of them stars,

yet Cobb stood far ahead of them all. Ruth, of course, was a wonderful showman, but so was Cobb. Cobb was somewhat earlier and played his greatest ball before the big stands were built in New York, Chicago and Detroit, However, he gave the crowd as much of an electric thrill by his daring and skillful base-running as Ruth did with a drive over the fence. In fact, Cobb was a show every minute he was on the field. Besides being the game's greatest hitter, there never was any telling what he would do-bunt, hit behind the runner or try for distance. He was a firebrand, but he could bring out the crowds, just as Ruth did later on. Those spikings never were intentional; they never left any feeling on my part and I am glad to say this remarkable player wound up his great career as a member of my team." (Sporting News, Jan. 27, 1938, pp. 3, column 5, by Fred Lieb)1941 - "As for the greatest player, the Philadelphia Athletics manager picks Ty Cobb". . . (Los Angeles Times, Mar 25, 1941, pg. A9)1942 - "The greatest player I ever saw from 1884 to the present day was Ty Cobb." (Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1942, pg. 17, "Connie's Only Regret He Hasn't Done Better, by Braven Dyer)1942 - "He surpassed all the players that I remember." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

Undated - I once read that Connie Mack had once said, "Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb were the two greatest ballplayers who ever lived." That is one of the most intellectually dishonest and DELIBERATELY misleading statements ever written. It implied that Connie, after a lifetime of pristine support of Ty as the Greatest Player, had muddied the waters and elevated Babe to a par with Ty in his opinion. Nothing could have been further from the truth. This little piece by Dan Daniel, NY spwr. comes the closest to being where such a prejudiced, partisan belief could have come from. Writes Dan Daniel, NY spwr. in Baseball Magazine in the '40's, (Connie Mack still will tell you that the greatest all around player was Ty Cobb. "Split the laurels," pleads

1947 - Connie Mac unhesitatingly and unqualifiedly picks Ty Cobb as the greatest baseballer of all time..."Ty Cobb outclassed them all," Mr. Mack opined. "After Cobb, you had to go a long ways down before you reach the rest. Cobb was everything. He batted367 for his 24 years in the majors. He fielded sensationally. And, above all, he had a fanatical will to win that carried his team right along with him. His achievements were all the more remarkable when you realize that everybody was gunning for him. His fiery disposition and his ruthlessness in running the bases -- his motto was, "The base paths belong to me!" -- made him enemies galore. But he took on baseball singlehandedly and won. Incidentally, Ty told me in later years that if he had it to do all over again the he would make friends instead of enemies in the game. But I'll bet that with the first crack of the bat he'd forget all those nice intentions and be the old Ty Cobb all over again, fighting everybody for his hits, stolen bases and runs." (Los Angeles Times, Jan 27, 1947, pg. 11)

(The National Pastime, Winter, 1985, pp. 44) (a rediscovered interview, taped in 1964 for "The Glory of Their Times" by Lawrence Stanley Ritter, 1966)

the Old Man of Shibe Park. "Ruth, the most popular, Ty the marvel at the plate, on the bases." Alas, Connie had NOT muddied the waters! But it was obvious how such a deceptively worded statement was

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1950 - I am not taking issue with the sports writers, neither do I dispute their reasons for selecting Babe Ruth over Ty Cobb as the greatest baseball player in the last fifty years. But for my money, Cobb was the greatest who ever lived and we maynever again see his equal. Ruth was a great gate attraction, no doubt the most outstanding crowd pleaser, but based on a player's value to his team alone, the honor must go to Ty Cobb. Cobb was the greatest competitor I ever saw, a fiery and fearless player. Winning and winning alone was all Cobb ever thought of and never gave his own personal safety much concern. Never have I seen a player so intent on winning that he would bring harm to himself if it was necessary. Certainly, Ruth hit the homeruns and glamorized the game, but Cobb's record in winning the batting championship nine straight years, missing a year and then coming back to win it the next three, is one of the outstanding feats of baseball. This was the controversy at the close of

the first half of the twentieth century. Everyone knows what I think of Ty Cobb, for I talk about him every chance I get. I don't think anyone has ever surpassed him as an all-round player, either in fielding, hitting or base running. I'd like to put Tris Speaker up in that top rank too. Tris was everywhere in the outfield; he could grab a ball up against the fence and net a ball off his shoes directly behind second base". (My 66 Years In the big Leagues by Connie Mack, 1950, pp. 40)You wouldn't know it from looking at the record books. He's only listed as an A's coach through '26. But Connie asked him to stay on unofficially to help with his pitchers and Ira did, off the record.1926 - "If he had an aggressive temperament like Ty Cobb, there'd be no question. Bur how many Cobbs have there been? Just one, to the best of my recollection. And don't overlook one thing. It was Cobb's driving, untiring persistence that got him where he is. Without that spirit he would have been just a good ball player. With it, he became baseball's greatest star. Ty Cobb, in his prime, simply wouldn't acknowledge defeat. He wouldn't even admit discouragement. No handicaps could even delay him on his course. He would struggle to overcome defects in his own playing style. He would fight players on his own club, players on opposing clubs and the crowd that rode him unmercifully, and thrive while he was doing all this. There are not toomany players who can stand the gaff as Cobb stood it. That's why he rose above all obstacles to a place where he was really in a class by himself." (Baseball Magazine, July, 1926)1942 - "He was not only a great ball player, but he disrupted the other team's morale by the chances he took and usually got away with. Once he got on the bases, I would rather give him credit for a run than let him get around the bases and cause

anywhere from four to five runs damage before he was through."(Thomas, continued), (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1910 - "The greatest ball player of all time? That question would have been a poser three years ago, and may appear so to a good many people now, for there probably are more differences of opinion about the relative merits of exponents of the greatest game in the world than about anything else one can think of. But in my opinion no fair-minded follower of baseball, who has seen the great players in action and who has studied their strong and weak points, can come to any conclusion other than the one I have arrived at--that Ty Cobb, right fielder of the Detroit American League Club, is the real answer to the above query. I take it that the answer should mean the greatest all-around ability, the one most valuable to his team, and not the one mostproficient in any single position. There might be ground for argument if I were to say I selected Cobb because he was better as a right fielder than Wagner was as a shortstop or Lajoie or Evers as a second baseman. I pick the Detroit man because he is, in my judgment, the most expert man of his profession and is able to respond better than any other player to any demand made on him. I pick him because he plays ball with his whole anatomy--his head, his arms, his hands, his legs, his feet--and because he plays ball all the time for all that is in him. Why is Cobb a great ball player? The first and most important reason is that he loves the game. I never have seen a man who had his heart more centered in a sport than Cobb has when he is playing.There never was a really good ball player who didn't think more of baseball than he did of his salary or the applause of the fans. Cobb, being a bright young man, naturally wants to be paid, and is paid what he is worth in his profession. Furthermore,

he probably has no objection to commendation from the people watching him; many ball players deny they care anything for the cheers of the crowd, and few take any stock in these denials. But I believe Cobb would continue to play ball if he werecharged something for the privilege, and if the only spectator were the groundskeeper. In considering Cobb's baseball excellence it is only natural to think first of his batting, for batting is the part of the sport that appeals most to the big majority.After his record of last season I believe the statement that he is the best hitter of to-day is indisputable. Averages tell a good deal about a man's ability to hit, and the mark of .377 hung up by the Detroit man in 1909, cannot be overlooked. It would be folly for me to discuss the relative pitching strength of the National and American Leagues, for I have not seen any National League pitching aside from that in our world's series of 1906 and the city series. But I will say that any man who can hit at that figure against present-day pitching in either big league is nothing short of a marvel. When Cobb first joined the Detroit Club word went around that he, like most of the rest of his craft, had his weaknesses at bat. It was noised about thata left-hander could "make him look foolish." And it was true that Cobb was not as strong at first against the southpaws as he was against the right-handers. But ask the left-handers about it now. They will tell you that he is anything but a toy intheir hands at present. The fact of the matter is that Cobb has overcome his dislike for that style of pitching, and is as effective against it now as against the other kind. Cobb is not an in and outer, although he, like all of us, has his slumps.With him they never last long, and are so infrequent that none of his opponents ever is counting on one of them. Cobb is dangerous at all times, and a pitcher working against him knows he must pitch his hardest, and never let up until the Georgian eitherhas been retired or has added another hit to his long list. Cobb hits when hits are needed and when they are not needed. He is as strong in a pinch as any one, besides being able to hit the ball further away than the majority of "clean-up" hitters.Moreover, he hits in all directions, some of his extra base drives going down the left foul line, some of them down the right, some of them to right center, some of them to center, some to left center; in fact, in all directions. In addition to his

ability to tire out the fielders with his long smashes Cobb is one of the most expert of bunters, and of course, his speed makes him doubly effective in this particular accomplishment. With a runner or two on the bases, and Ty at bat, he has the entire opposing infield at sea. No faint-hearted third baseman could live through a series against the Detroit Club. Cobb may "look"the bunter all over when a bunt is expected to advance a baserunner, and may draw the third baseman in, confident that the ballwill be laid down, and then make him call on all his dodging ability to get out of the way of a terrific smash right at him. I don't blame infielders for being "crossed" by Cobb. He has the head to fool them and the ability to carry out his schemes.Although the left handers have been convinced that they are no more effective against him than their right-handed brothers, the latter still have some ideas about his "weak spot," and these ideas are almost as many as are the pitchers. But everylittle while a pitcher will serve up one of the things Cobb "can't hit," only to see it soaring over the fence or toward it. Another common fallacy, when Cobb was first served in the American League, was that he was a "fool" on the bases; that he "ranwild." There has been a reversal of this verdict, too. Undoubtedly, Cobb has pulled off some base running "crimes," but it was not because of lack of baseball sense, but rather because he loved to run and just couldn't hold himself in. If any one hadkept track of Cobb's successes and failures in his "crazy" base running stunts I am sure he would have found that the former far outnumbered the latter. And I also am sure that his "crazy" running has won a lot of ball games for Detroit. There may beball players who can run a hundred yards as fast as the Georgian, but there is none who can go from the plate to first base as fast, and none who can equal his speed between any two bases or around the whole circuit. . . . Now, I want to say something

about this spiking business. Don't ever let any one tell you that Cobb purposely spikes basemen. He is too good a sportsman for anything like that, and that he is a sportsman was proved by his letter on the spike question to President Johnson of theAmerican League. he was willing to have the spikes dulled, although he knew that such action would slow him up in his play. Cobb slides to a base with the intention of getting there, and getting there safely. He doesn't take any more space on the baselines than is coming to him. To be sure, he never refuses to slide simply because the basemen is in his way, but he would not be a successful baserunner if he slacked up to avoid a possible collision with an awkward fielder or on some unusual play.

Besides, Cobb is taking even more chances in his daring slides than is the man waiting to tag him. One of the most important assets of the great ball player is possessed by Cobb to a wonderful degree. This is nerve. He is not afraid of any pitching,and it seems to delight him to be in a pinch, with his team's fate hanging in the balance. Cobb is a better ball player today than he was two years ago. He will be a better ball player this year than he was last. This is because he is a student. He iswilling to learn something new about baseball every day of his life, and he is willing to be shown his faults and told about his mistakes. Of these latter he makes far less now than he did when he first broke into fast company. He has had good teachers and good examples, and he has not failed to take advantage of his opportunities to cram baseball knowledge into his head. This is a day of great ball players, and there are many who could be named in the same breath with Cobb without disgracing thelatter. Two of the best of the present day are Evers of the Chicago Cubs and Wagner of the Pittsburgh club." (New York Times, April 17, 1910)1919 - "Personally I think Ty Cobb of the Detroit team is the greatest player of all time. This is no disparagement to others. Ty is in a class by himself. He is a wonderful batter and would have been able to hit any kind of pitching in the old days

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as well. He is one of the speediest men in the game. He is as good a fielder as one would want, but above all he is a thinker when in the game. His mind works every minute and he carries the team along with him." (Commy by Gustav Axelson, 1919)? Charles Comiskey told Joe Vila of the New York Sun: "Baseball has changed a lot since I was a player. In my day it wasn't necessary to specialize in all departments of baseball, but Cobb could do everything. He could hook, slide to either side, field with the best in the game, had a great throwing arm, could hit all kinds of pitching either by slugging or bunting and was the greatest and smartest base runner that ever wore spikes. . . . I have won pennants and world championships, but thegreatest and only disappointment of my life in baseball was that Cobb didn't play for me. I often pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him, but in vain. I would have paid anything to get him." (History of Baseball, by Joe Reichler & Allison

1930 - "The greatest player I ever saw? he queried, leaning forward to emphasize the question. "that's easy," he replied, and then without hesitation, he snapped. "That's easy! My choice is Ty Cobb!" . . . but when we get down the fine points ofthis game and weigh the various angles, there is none to equal Cobb. I'm serious when I say that. . . . Cobb could do everything. . . . I may be wearing myself out," he said, "But when I start talking about that fellow I can't quit. . . Cobb beat us. Scoring from second base on an outfield fly or an infield grounder. Cobb frequently upset and rattled our team as he helped beat my boys out of three pennants. . .and while I watched his play from my seat in the grandstand I could see that he threw fearinto the opposition. That's what made him a great ball player." "What's up now? I asked him. "I've won pennants and World's Series," he replied, "but do you know what I consider the greatest and only disappointment of my career? Well, I'll tell you - it was really the fact Ty Cobb did not play for Commy." I could readily understand Comiskey's slant. He had not tried to conquer the word. He simply regretted that this greatest ball player of all time was not a member of his Chicago White Sox."Cobb," he mumbled softly. "He should have been with my White Sox. I had Callahan, Jones, Griffith, Donohue, Isbell, Davis, McFarland, Walsh, Altrock, Jackson, Cicotte, Schalk, Weaver and other stars. But I wanted Cobb. I watched him star for theTigers - a boy who played the game as I did back in the late 70's. Then I pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him. I wanted Ty to finish his career with my ball club. I would have paid - well, I'd have paid anything, but they wouldn't sell."

"Ty Cobb - what a ball player!" sighed Comiskey, and then as I noted him slump back in his chair, I, too, regretted that Ty had not started and finished his sparkling career with the White Sox that this grand old man of baseball did not get his cherished

1918 - "But I'll have to admit that Ty Cobb is the smartest ball player I ever saw for scoring runs and doing damage to another team. He's always working for the Tigers, is Ty, and he's a wonder. He's the most spectacular player I ever saw,

and his record? Why where are you going to match that record? . . . Yes, Jackson has the best natural batting eye I ever saw, but he isn't Cob's equal, of course, take him all round." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1918, pp. 181, The Greatest Ball Club That Ever Lived, by Clark Griffith, pp. 141, 180, 181)1921 - "The two greatest base runners that I ever saw were Bill Lange and Ty Cobb. Bill Lange was the best of the old timers, in my opinion, and Ty Cobb is just as far ahead of the field among modern day base runners. I won't attempt to decide which was the greater, but I have already admitted more than once that Ty Cob was the most brilliant ball player I ever knew. He is slowing up now, of course, but in his prime, he was a wonder." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1921)1942 - "Because he was a hitter, a base-runner, a great fielder and indomitable will to win and the aggressiveness that thrilled those who watched him play." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 lettersto former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1933 - The greatest player he ever saw? "I speak merely as a fan, you understand. Cobb was the greatest player I ever saw, and so far as my memory goes, the first player I ever saw. I definitely know he was the first person I ever shook hands with." "What about Ruth? If you had your chance to buy Ruth or Cobb, both at their peak tomorrow, for the Red Sox, which would you take?" "I'm still a fan. I would take Cobb. I like to see Ruth hit the long ones, but nothing has thrilled me more than the

sight of Ty Cobb dashing around the bases, taking chances, outwitting the other side. You could never tell what he was going to do, and it was fine fun trying to figure what he might do next. You don't get that with Ruth." You are not listening to an old timer talk. This is a 30 year old business man, the youngest club owner in the history of baseball. Cobb represents the mauve decades in baseball. Ruth represents the hot cha-cha, and h, ey nonny, nonny, period. I wonder if anybody really knowswhich is better? (Sporting News, March 9, 1933, pp. 6, column 4)1945 - "Cobb? I've always had the greatest respect for him as a player and as a man. I've always considered him the greatest player that ever lived." . . . . . ."But Ty Cobb is the greatest I ever saw at any time--yes, sir, and you can go tell that to Taylor Spink!" (Sporting News, March 29, 1945, pp. 3, column 3)1959 - In his boyhood at Detroit, Yawkey used to idolize and hang around Ty Cobb, Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach. (Sporting News, June 17, 1959, pp. 12, column 2) 1961 - "Greatest all-around ball player of all time." (Washington, DC, Evening Star, July 18, 1961, pp. A21)1961 - "I have lost a long time friend with the death of Ty Cobb. Much of my early interest in baseball was aroused by meeting and knowing Ty at a very early age and there is no doubt in my mind that he was the greatest all around ball players of all of all time." (San Francisco ?, July 18, 1961, compiled from AP and UPI Services)1952 - Walter O. Briggs' great baseball idol was Ty Cobb. "He was the greatest I ever saw and probably the greatest any of us will ever see," he said. "Babe Ruth hit more home runs, but I don't see how he can be ranked above Cobb. Ruth was the greatest

slugger of all time, but not the greatest player." (Sporting News, January 23, 1952, pp. 11, column 2)1952 - "She was following baseball when the Brotherhood operated a team at Broad and Dauphin streets, not far from her girlhood home here. That was in the 1880s, long before there was an American League, before the modern Athletics were even dreamed ofand before she met Tom Shibe. Rival players never were villains to Aunt Ida - just "nice boys" in the wrong uniforms - and Ty Cobb she regarded as the greatest of all time, with Babe Ruth the most magnetic. (Sporting News, May 21, 1952, pp. 30, column 2)

1950 - Does Tom Connelly have a "greatest player" for his 57 years in the National and American leagues? Certainly: Tyrus Raymond Cobb. (Sporting News, April 26, 1950, pp. 8, column 4 & 5)1953 - Which reminded me of a brilliant cliché. Who was the greatest ball player he had ever seen? The former umpire looked at me as if the question was not only superfluous but stupid. "Why, Ty Cobb, of course." Then by way of amplification. . ."Hecould beat you so many ways. He could outhit you, outrun you and outthink you. If you needed the tying or winning run in the last inning and he was up it was even money, he'd get it." (Sporting News, 1953, pp. 12, column 3)1954 - As one who saw many great players come & go, Connelly unhesitatingly names Ty Cobb as the greatest all-round player he ever saw, remarking, "He could beat you so many ways." And in his opinion, Walter Johnson, the "Big Train" of Washington, was

was the greatest pitcher. (Sporting News, January 20, 1954, pp. 6, column 1 & 2)1926 - Ty Cobb, the greatest player of all time, is through as a big leaguer. . . There never has been and probably never will be another player just like Tyrus Raymond Cobb. He could do everything. Didn't have a single weakness. During my 21 yearsyears in the majors I have seen Cobb do everything that it is possible for one player to do on the ball field. There is nothing that Cobb hasn't attempted and succeeded in. (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 6, column 3)

1942 - " Cobb was the brainy, crafty, sensational performer, who starred in the era of close scores when one run was usually the decisive margin. Ruth starred in the era of swat. Power was his greatest asset, although he had all the other attributes of a great ball player." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "If there ever was a greater all-around baseball player than Ty Cobb, I have yet to see him. Babe Ruth had more power, Tris Speaker was a greater fielder, Joe DiMaggio has a better arm, but none possessed the all-around finesse of the Georgia Peach. Cobb did everything well. . . . I have never seen a great hitter who had better control of his bat at all times than Cobb."(Baseball's Best Batters, by Billy Evans, condensed from Esquire Magazine, reprinted for Baseball Digest, August, 1942, pp. 55-61)(Cobb, Ruth, Keeler, Gehrig, Wagner, Hornsby, Speaker, Collins, Sisler, Lajoie, Jackson, DiMaggio, Williams)1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

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That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366, "Calling Them With George Moriarty, by George Moriarty, pp. 366, 379)1956 - The six-foot, 200-pound arbiter rated Ty Cobb the greatest player he ever had seen. "Babe Ruth was good, too," he conceded, "but Ruth was a different type player from Cobb. Ty would fight you to a standstill in a game, but the Babe took things

more in stride." (Sporting News, Sept. 19, 1956, pp. 46, column 4) 1961 - "All four--Clarence Rowland, Ray Schalk, Urban (Red) Faber and Emmett (Red) Ormsby--learned about The Georgia Peach at first hand. They were contemporaries of Ty in the American League and spent many a day on the field of battle with baseball's immortal star. All four of these Chicago baseball men agreed that Cobb was the greatest player of all time, and all four agreed that none ever matched his flaming drive for victory. But Schalk had more than admiration for Ty. His was a deep affection."I loved the guy," said Schalk. (Sporting News, December 20, 1961, pp. 14, column 3)1962 - "A few years ago, when Ray Schalk was inducted into the Hall of Fame, I had a Talk of more than an hour with Cobb, He was a wonderful fellow to reminisce with. You know, the first time I ever met Ty was when I was a raw recruit at the Quantico Marine Base in Virginia in 1917. I was in the same outfit with his brother, Paul, whom Ty came to visit one day. Paul was a pretty good ball player himself. Paul was an outfielder on the Quantico team and an excellent hitter and I was spitball pitcher.Being a youngster then, I was pop-eyed when I saw the great Ty Cobb. He handled himself modestly enough. I remember that my reaction was that he was a 'good Joe.'" (Sporting News, January 17, 1962, pp. 14, column 4)1961 - "Kid Gleason would butter him up by telling him it was too bad we couldn't get him on our club, and when Ty came to bat, Schalk would butter him up some more," said Rowland. "We kept our bench jockeys subdued, too. Cobb was great enough just

in his normal stride but, if you needled him, he was almost super-human. He was a guy who could beat you all alone, so it was suicide to stimulate him to even greater efforts. Without a doubt, Cobb was the greatest player of all time. . . When I umpired, I never got any squawks from Cobb on balls and strikes. He'd give you a look once in a while and that's all. The only time he ever said anything to me was when I called him out at third base once on a close decision. 'I don't believe you,' and kept right on going." (Sporting News, Dec. 20, 1961, pp. 14, column 3)

1961 - "Ty was in a class by himself," McGowan explained, "He could win a game without swinging a bat, He'd come up swinging five bats, smacking his lips like a tiger and scaring the life out of a pitcher. He'd coax a pass, steal second, third, andhome and beat you, 1 to 0." Ruth, the umpire believes, was the greatest slugger who ever lived. "Even if you take away all his homers and call them singles," he said, "he's still one of the games's all-time greats. Great arm, smart and fast for a bigman. But not as good as Cobb!" (Sporting News, September 13, 1961, pp. 14, column 2, "Cobb Greatest of All, Insists Umpire McGowan")1950 - "There was only one great player in Bill's book and that was Ty Cobb. To Bill, the Georgia Peach represented everything. They became fast friends," (Sporting News, March 15, 1950, pp. 18, column 2)1936 - Ty Cobb was the best ball player that Umpire Brick Owens ever saw. (Los Angeles Times, March 14, 1936, pp. 14, "Bill Henry - Says")1939 - "The greatest player I ever saw was Ty Cobb." (Washington Post, May 2, 1939, pp. 19, "On the Line With Considine", by Dolly Stark) (Regular columnist was on vacation, and guest columnist filled in.)1951 - "He was the greatest ball player of all-time . . . There'll never be another like him."

Tim Hurst('00-09), Silk O'Loughlin('02-18),Jack Sheridan('01-14), Bill Dinneen('09-37), George Hildebrand('12-34), Brick Owens('16-37).It would seem logical that the umpires of Ty's time would have supported him as the greatest ever. Some of the most prominent, whom I haven't found quotes for were: Jack Sheridan ('00-14), Tim Hurst ('00-09), Silk O'Loughlin('02-18), Brick Owens('16-37),

It is a historical fact that in the debate between Ruth, Cobb & Wagner, the overwhelming cream of the most respected, authoritative & august names in baseball who had actually seen these players came out in favor of Ty. I have spent years searching for their opinions and have found most of them. Sadly, I still haven't found a few. I am still seeking those of Tim Murnane, Cap Anson, Art Fletcher, Herb Pennock, and a few others, namely a host of AL umpires of Ty's time.

1929 - "Cobb was the greatest student of the game and psychologist I ever saw," Haney says, "Why, I have seen him sit on the bench, his eyes covered by his cap and call 18 out of 20 pitches a Cleveland hurler threw. I asked him how he did it and his

reply was, 'Well, I've been watching Steve O'Neill catch for quite a good many years now and ought to know what he will call for.' "I figured Cobb as a real manager," Haney continued. "Had he not been he wouldn't have done as well as he did with someof his teams. You see, while Ty was just a player he always had been the 'darling' of the management and this, of course, had made some of the others jealous. What Cobb wanted, he got. So, when he became manager, there was a certain amount of suspiciontoward him. I personally know of many attempts Cobb made to help players out -- veterans who were slipping both professionally and financially, -- but, in each case the player coached by some of the soreheads, would be warned off. On one occasion, Cobboffered to invest $3,000. for a player about to be waived out of the league. The player wanted to accept the generous offer, but some other player, among them one who has since come to disrepute, advised him strongly against it, and he took their advice,only to be sorry later. This talk about his not being for his players was pure bunk, There was nothing he didn't try to do to make everyone happy. As I said, there were those who just wouldn't or couldn't see anything good in Ty. He had his share ofbattles, on and off the diamond, did Ty, but, in all of them, he was a square shooter and a square fighter." (Sporting News, April 25, 1929)1929 - "And, as for playing ability, any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't have co-operated with anybody."

1938 - The new pilot of the Browns regards Ty Cobb as the greatest manager under who he has ever served. "There never was anyone like Ty," declard Fred. "He had everything that it takes to make a great player and manager. The only trouble was that Tydidn't sweep far enough when he cleaned house on the team. He left a couple of fellows who poisoned the team against him.""Cobb taught me a lot of things, but strangely enough, base-running wasn't included , although Ty was without an equal at the art. In fact, we didn't even have a steal sign on the club. I wondered about this and asked Ty the reason. "'We've got

too many extra-base hitters on this club to emphasize stealing,' Cobb replied. 'I play the percentages on our hitting, instead of stealing, to get the runners around.'" (Sporting News, Nov. 17, 1938, pp. 4, column 4)1961 - "Ty Cobb was a great manager. He took a bunch of punks and finished third in 1922, second in '23 and third in '24, when he should have been deep in the second division. He was a wonderful fellow to play for --if you hustled and did your bestall the time. He was very demanding, but quick to give you a pat on the back, too. (Sporting News, Nov. 8, 1961, pp. 10, column 3)1975 - "Ty never got the credit he deserved as a manager because he never won a pennant and the critics always think you have to win to be great," he said. "Besides, Cobb never had enough good pitching to be a challenger. I played for him on the Tigers for four years, starting as a rookie in 1922 and what I got was an education in advanced baseball. He knew everything about the game and he got more out of his players than they had to give. …I'm proud to say that I batted .352 as a rookie.. . . And two years later I saw Cobb finish second with a team that any other manager wouldn't have gotten beyond the top of the second division." (Christian Science Monitor, Sept. 19, 1975,

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1924 - "The Detroit team, under the able leadership of Ty Cobb, who has proven as good a manager as he was and is, as a player, seems to have the best chance of winning out, as it is not only strong on offense, but has gained greatly in defense through the improvement of the supposedly weak pitching department through the development of Pitchers Stoner, Whitehill, Holloway and Wells. (Sporting News, August 7, 1924, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment) 1982 - "As a manager, Cobb was all right." (Cobb Would Have Caught It, Richard Bak, 1991, pp. 148)1924 - So admired was Ty as a manager by the end of '24, that Christy Mathewson chose him as manager for his All-America team B, for Collier's, Oct. 11, 1924, pp. 45.

1923 - "One has to work under Cobb to understand him," said Howley. "As a manager, he was a revelation to me. Cobb has played the outfield all of his life, yet it was uncanny how he could instruct men to play every position on the ball field. There isn't the slightest detail of any department of baseball that he isn't master of. . . I have no personal motive for boosting Cobb," continued the New England Irishman. "I no longer work for the Detroit club: in fact, I took the Toronto job against Cobb'swishes. But I honestly believe Cobb is the greatest manager in baseball. Give him a little more time with that Detroit team and see what he does with it. He advanced it from seventh to third in two years and next season he will make things exceedingly interesting for the Yanks." (Sporting News, February 15, 1923, pp. 7, column 2) 1929 - "Ty Cobb and I are supposed to be enemies. That might have been true once; but it's not true now. We've had our share of differences, I'll admit. There were times when I couldn't even see Ty's face through the red haze that sprung up between us. I hated to work for him, and I am frank to say I wouldn't like to work for him now. But working for Ty and recognizing his good points on another ball club are two different things. . . There's a pretty general impression, I think, that Cobb wasnot an able manager. It is true he never won a pennant. But now that I'm no longer with the club, I'll go on record that if Connie Mack had managed the Tigers, with John McGraw for his coach and Joe McCarthy for his bat boy, he wouldn't have done any

better than Ty. . . Cobb was not a failure as a manager. He was not a bad manager. In many ways he was a brilliant manager. He knew more baseball than anybody I ever saw. And chain lightning was no faster than the working of Ty's mind. He was always a fighter and he had a fighting ball club. that's what the public wants. He was as full of tricks as a coyote is full of fleas. they weren't parlor tricks, either. Ty was out to win ball games. . . Ty was a great coach. I doubt if his equal has ever lived. . . he did as well, with the material they gave him, as anybody could have done. So why call him a bad manager?. . . Ty never had a good pitching staff. His outfield was bad(defensively), and his infield was worse. As a fielding combination,

the Tigers were like an old sieve. But how those boys could hit and score runs? Ty coached them and he kept them on their toes. They were about as dangerous a team to stop as the New York Yankees. As for pennants, it makes little difference how many runs you score, as long as the other fellow scores more. But I haven't noticed many pennants waving from that old flag pole at Detroit since they gave Ty the gate. He drove the boys up as high as second place one year. They haven't roosted in that berth since. So why not give Ty his due? Why saddle him with a failure that was not his, or blame him for something that nobody could help? Ty is entitled to get sore at that kind of criticism. Frankly, I don't blame him." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1930, pp. 493)1931 - "We had some hot discussion on pitching science when Ty Cobb was a manager of the Tigers. It's an open secret, or rather no secret at all, that Ty and I didn't hit it off very well. Not that he cared. The personal dislikes of a great manypeople weighted very little with Ty. One thing I'll say for him, if you talked back to him, he respected you more than if you merely kept silent and took everything he handed out. Ty was a fighter himself, and he respected other fighters. Ty was very keen in sizing up batters' weaknesses. Probably no man ever lived with a better eye or a better judgment to detect little mannerisms, preferences and dislikes in opposing hitters. . . . "but Ty was the smartest batter I ever saw. I don't say he was the best. There's a difference. But he certainly was the smartest. . . ."Cobb always worked the psychology of batting to the limit. . . . ."Cross up the pitcher was Ty's batting theory, and he certainly knew how to do it. Ty's record is a conspicuous

example of what a player can do by using his head every moment of the time." (Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 539-541)1961 - "Reached at a Red Sox tryout camp in Burlington,Vt., Woodall, all choked up over Ty's passing, said: "He was a good manager. He knew his baseball inside out. He anticipated plays far ahead of anyone else. He understood us and realized ourlimitations. It was his contention that once we joined the Tigers we were supposed to be big league players and I believe he was justified in using that as a standard." (New York Journal-American, July 20, 1961, pp. 24, Brainy Cobb Praised by the Tigers He Managed by Barney Kremenko )1962 - "Ty Was Terrific Teacher---'You Learned Plenty' : Herman played for Ty Cobb at Detroit and always has maintained that The Georgia Peach was a good manager. "He was a stickler for details, and never overlooked a thing. You paid attention andyou learned plenty," is the way Babe put it. (Sporting News, Feb.7, 1962, pp. 7, column 1, by Braven Dyer in Los Angeles Times)1926 - "I have made a persistent study of the pitchers. In this work I have had the advantage of Ty Cobb's coaching. He can detect the batter's weakness quicker than anyone I ever saw. But after all, there is a limit to what any one can teach you. If you are to be much of a success, you must work out your own system". (Baseball Magazine, February, 1926)1924 - "When Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb was made manager of the Detroit Tigers there was considerable skepticism expressed by the experts as to what he could do with a ball club, says W. O. McGeehan in the New York Herald. The Georgian always was a fiery person and was the center of many a tempest on the diamond. It was pointed out that no man who could not manage himself would make much of a success as a team manager. But nobody can go behind the results. The Tigers under the leadership of Mr. Tyrus

Raymond Cobb are fighting the Yankees for first place. The team has become a wonderful fighting unit. Ostensibly at least the inner workings are quite harmonious, and the Tigers take all of their truculence out on the teams that they meet. All of the misgivings as to Cobb as a manager seem to be without reason. As a matter of fact, Cobb actually has started to look forward to the time when he will be able to quit active playing and devote all of his tremendous energy to managing his team. The timewas when the notion of Cobb as anything but an active player would have seemed impossible. But today the prospect of Cobb becoming a bench manager does not sound so strange. In handling a team Cobb has lost little of that aggressive spirit that alwaysmarked him as a player, On the contrary, he not only has retained that, but seems to have imbued his players with the same sort of spirit. It is only fair that I shall mention the fact that Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb is a decided success as a manager,because I was of the skeptics." (Sporting News, August 14, 1924, Scribbled by Scribes by W. O. McGeehan)

Essential reading is the following article from July 5, 1931, published by the Philadelphia Public Ledger newspaper. It concerns the all-important subject of who is the Greatest Ballplayer by 12 impartial, knowledgeable "jurists". It has depth, context and was conducted at the very moment when Babe Ruth's fame hovered at its pinnacle of glory. I consider this article, along with the Sporting News' April 2, 1942 survey, as the "smoking gun" of the debate. It's decisive and unalterable. By contrast, the 1950 sportswriters poll, was conducted largely by men who had never seen Cobb play. Or Ruth for that matter. Have fun my brothers. Bill Burgess(P.S. This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, August 1, 1931, under Personal Glimpses, Picking an All-Time Emperor of the Diamond, and it was also referred to in The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser,1975, pp. 433)

Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan (The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)A majority of a jury of twelve good men and true, chosen for their experience and standing in the Nation's great game, hereby pronounces Tyrus Raymond Cobb as Baseball's Greatest Player." Seven out of the twelve give first place to the "Georgia Peach," whose line drives, streaks of speed and fall-away slides thrilled the Nation's fans for nearly a quarter of a century. "There never will be another Ty," they sigh in unison. Three of the twelve designate Hans Wagner, "Flying Dutchman" of the oldPittsburgh Pirates, as the greatest, and four name him runner-up to Cobb, bringing Hans in a good second in total points. Babe Ruth, famous home-run pounder of the present day, runs third by virtue of two first choices and being placed in the "Big Five"

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by several other jurors. Nap Lajoie and Eddie Collins finish close behind Ruth, with Willie Keeler, Al Simmons and Tris Speaker following in the order named. The jury is composed of John McGraw, Wilbert Robinson, Walter Johnson, Connie Mack,Kid Gleason, Bill McKechnie, Joe McCarthy, Jim Burke, Gabby Street, Dan Howley, Bucky Harris and Burt Shotton, all well known to followers of baseball. I asked each man the question, "Whom do you consider the greatest baseball player of all time?"waiting for his opinion without telling him the views of any other juryman. Five points were given for first place, four for second, three for third, two for fourth and one for fifth. John McGraw, manager of the Giants, the first man approached for his

tremendous hands, and in addition to his great playing ability, had a wonderful disposition and was easy to handle. I'll place Cobb second and Keeler third. Al Simmons is my next pick, as I consider him the greatest ball player of the present day. LikeWagner he is a right-handed hitter of power and can field his position splendidly and throw fast and accurately. Simmons is no dumb ball player, either. My own first baseman, Bill terry, is included in my selection. He is really a great ball player and

1922. Oddly enough, neither club retained him for long after his success. Tired of being shunted by the Cardinals to Rochester and then recalled, McKechnie signed a four-year contract with Boston and is developing a team there. "I don't see how a NationalLeaguer could pick any one but old Honus Wagner as the best that ever lived," said McKechnie as we sat in his hotel room in Philadelphia. "I played in the infield with him for six or seven years and will pay him the splendid tribute of saying I neversaw him make a mental error. He made "boots," of course. Every ball player makes fielding errors. But Honus always threw to the right base; he always did the correct thing at the proper moments. As to physical ability, he was a marvelous fielder, thehardest-hitting shortstop in history and a splendid baserunner. Wagner was in his prime from about 1904 to 1912. "Cobb gets second place. Really, I think those two stand by themselves for this century, at least. Speaker didn't have the natural speed

of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. He, like Speaker, wasn't as fast as Cobb. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on fly balls that are too close to the infield for outfielders to get. I have been astonished at Hornsby's inability to overcome this weakness during his many years in the majors. It is hard to choose between Hornsby and Ruth, but I'll give it to Hornsby."

Athletics leader said. "But picking the greatest player that ever lived is easy, I think. I pick Ty Cobb. I guess every one will do the same. Cobb was a good fielder, the greatest baserunner in the game's history, the fastest thinker and the mostconsistent hitter. How can you name any one else? Eddie Collins, the keystone of my great infield of the old Athletics, is my second choice. Eddie was a marvelous ball player. I can't say too much for him. I'll name Lajoie third. Of the present-dayplayers I pick Al Simmons first, and he is my fourth man of all time. I hate to leave off Mickey Cochrane, but I must name Babe Ruth, so he goes fifth. If there was a sixth place in your selections, Cochrane would get it. When I picked my all-time teamlast year, I named Buck Ewing as the best catcher I ever saw. I put Buck ahead of Mickey because of the latter's comparatively brief service in the majors. But you can say for me, and this is the first time I've said it for publication, that I now

with whom he played years ago. At least that's what I thought, and so didn't press him for an entire selection when he said: "Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player I ever saw. Hans Wagner is next. That's all I want to pick. Go see Connie Mack and find

well, is a deadly thrower and can cover first base and pitch. He is a far better all-round ball player than he is generally credited with being. I'll place Cobb second, then Wagner, Collins and Lajoie in the order named. After you get past Wagner it isvery difficult to make selections, as there have been so many great ball players. You may also say for me that I consider Mickey Cochrane and Gabby Hartnett as the leading catchers of the day."

for years and your views mean something. Mine don't." "All right then. If that's the way you feel about it, go ahead and name Ty Cobb as the best of them all," replied Uncle Robbie. "I didn't see him play much because he was in the other league, butfrom what I did see and from what I've heard from others who do know ball players when they see them, Cobb deserves first place. Put Willie Keeler in there next to Ty. Willie was a great all-round ball player and the best place hitter the game ever knew.And you can't leave out this big fellow, Babe Ruth, when speaking of all-time wonders. He can pitch, play first base, play the outfield and hit home runs. He's a wonder. It's hard on the others to name just a few, because the world has seen many greats.Hans Wagner was one. Back in the old, old days the Phillies had a man who could pitch like a streak and play the infield, too. His name was Charley Ferguson. You can't leave him off. There's Hughey Jennings, too. He was an unbeatable shortstop. As I

said before, it's unfair to name just a few. Think of the many good ones I've never seen! But if I have to name the best five you can put down Cobb, Keeler, Ruth, Wagner and Ferguson for me."

leader. When Joe McCarthy went up to take charge of the Cubs, he took Burke along as coach, and the two have remained together since. He should know his ball players. "I give Wagner first place," he says. "He could do everything and is the greatestI've ever see. Cobb gets second place with me Why name more? They stand alone." "But I want five selections, Mr. Burke," I said. "Well, that's a tough assignment. When you get through with Wagner and Cobb, you run into trouble. Old Nap Lajoie was aswell ball player. We can't leave him off the list. Eddie Collins was another. Put him down for fourth. Now it's getting tougher and tougher. We'll give fifth place to Hornsby, although you may as well name the fifth man yourself, there have been so

American League and two in the National and Cobb is my pick, without question," he said. "Cobb had a ninety-horsepower brain, which, in my opinion, was his greatest asset. He always thought a fraction of a second faster than any one else and, therefore,

was always ahead of the game. One day he was on third base when the batter hit a high fly back of shortstop. George McBride, our shortstop at Washington in those days and a very good fielder, caught the ball. As the ball struck his glove Cobb startedfor home. McBride raised his arm to throw. Cobb stopped. McBride, assured that Cobb had given up the idea of trying to score, let his arm drop to his side. Quick as lightning, Cobb was off for home again, scoring the winning run despite McBride'shurried throw. His brain had worked once again and Detroit had won another ball game. Another time we had a second baseman playing third base. Cobb hit safely five times past third base. After the game I asked him about it and he said: "That was easy,

your third baseman was out of position. I know he's a second baseman. Why should I try to hit to right field?' That was Cobb in his prime. Modern fans who saw him only in the closing days of his career can't appreciate him. "I'll give old Honussecond place and Eddie Collins third. They say Jimmy Collins was a great ball player, but I never saw him. Freddy Parent, Boston Red Sox infielder, wasn't a spectacular player, but he's my fourth choice. And I can't leave out Hal Chase. He could do

ever approached him. I'll give Wagner second and that's all I'll name. I think Al Simmons is the best ball player in the game right now. I might name Al, but what about Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth and Bill Terry amongthe present-day players, and Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker among the older fellows? I can't include them all in your list, so I'll pick only Cobb and Wagner."

, manager of the Giants, the first man approached for his views, named Hans Wagner as the greatest. "Wagner could do everything required of a ball player." said McGraw as he sat in the Giants' dugout in the Polo Grounds. "He had

manager of the Braves, strung along with McGraw on Wagner as the greatest of them all. McKechnie, one-time Pirate infielder, piloted Pittsburgh to a pennant in 1925 and won another gonfalon for the St. Louis Cardinals in

has been devoting his time to the American. "I haven't had the chance to see many of the great stars of the other league," the Philadelphia

, former manager of the White Sox and now coach of the Athletics, who has spent a lifetime in baseball, was very brief. Evidently his mind rushed back over the past and he feared to slight some of the great ones

, former manager of Louisville and the Chicago Cubs and now pilot of the New York Yanks, selects his own star, Babe Ruth as the best of all time. "Ruth is more than a home-run hitter," says McCarthy. "He can play the

former great right-handed pitcher and now manager of the Washington Senators. Johnson was lavish in his praise of the "Georgia Peach." He gave Wagner second place and

, manager of the Brooklyn Robbins, voiced his opinions under protest. "But, Mr. Robinson," I said, "no one cares whom I'd name as the greatest. The fans want to read your opinions. You've been in this game

, ruddy-faced coach of the Yanks, has been in baseball thirty years. He played in the American and National Leagues and the American Association. He managed the St. Louis Browns, 1917-1920, and has also been a double A

, one-time battery mate of Walter Johnson at Washington and now manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, 1930 champions of the National League, was the fifth man to name Cobb for first honors. "I spent seven years in the

y, manager of the Cincinnati Reds and former leader of the St. Louis Browns and 1926 pennant-winning Toronto Leafs in the International League is another Cobb admirer. "Ty first without a doubt," he said. "No one

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famous slugger, and places Cobb second, with Sisler third, Simmons fourth and Speaker fifth. Harris wants it known that his opinions are based on players he has seen in action.

This symposium was an intensely interesting one for me to procure. I wasn't surprised with Cobb winning first honors and Wagner second." I wasn't surprised, either, with Ruth finishing as low as third in an all-star contest:

, who was called the "boy wonder" when he led Washington to two pennants and who now pilots Detroit, is the youngest man on the jury. He gives first place to Babe Ruth, being the second man on the jury so to honor the

, one of the stars of the present day, breaks into the list of "greats," due to the selection of his manager, Burt Shotton, of the Phillies. Shotton names Cobb first and Lajoie second, with Klein third, Wagner fourth and

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Christy Mathewson, .324, 86 games, 327 AB, 106 hits,

It was said that Babe Ruth cried when he left the Polo Grounds, with it's 256' right field foul line. Well, Ty loved it too. Ty's record there:

Batting Ave.

Ty Cobb was timed going down to first many times, but was never known to break, 3.2. Mickey Mantle's best was 3.1 from the left side of the plate.

In 1921, Maurice Archdeacon timed 13.4 in circling the bases, while 10 yrs. later, Evar Swanson timed 13.3. in circling the bases. Ty Cobb's best was 13.5.

At a long-distance baseball throwing contest in Oct.,1872, John Hatfield of Mutual club, won the contest with a heave of 133 yrds, 1 foot, 7.7 inches. He was followed by Andy Leonard of Boston club(119 yds. 1 ft. 10 inches), George Wright of Boston club(117 yrds. 1 ft. 1 inch), Bill Boyd of Mutual club(115 yrds. 1 ft. 7 inches), Wes Fisler of Athletics club(112 yrds. 6 inches),

At Cincinnati baseball grounds on Sunday, Oct. 9,1910, Sheldon Lajeune of the Evansville baseball Club, threw a baseball 426 feet, 9.5 inches. He had preceded this throw with heaves of 385' 3", 383' 4", both throws against the wind. He then asked if he could throw in the opposite direction. This was granted and he threw 401' 4.5", he then warmed his arm up and then

Joe Jackson threw a baseball 132 yards (396'9") on September 27, 1917, at Fenway Park, Boston, Mass., in a contest, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. It was at a benefit game for Tim Murnane's widow. Duffy Lewis of the

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1920 - Upon hearing the news early during 1920 spring training, that the Yankees planned on using Babe Ruth exclusively as an outfielder, Tris dryly commented, "Sorry to hear that about Ruth. If he had continued his pitching career, hemight have lasted a long time and become famous." (1920)1930 - When asked for his all-time all-star team, McGraw gladly gave it. He included Wagner, Cobb, Mathewson, Walter Johnson, but said, " I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, rather than as a player."

1933 - "There, then, is your ideal ball player, made up, I see, of the qualities of exactly nine of the greatest the game has produced--Matty, Evers, Wagner (on two counts), Jennings, Frisch, Kelly, Speaker, Hornsby and Cobb." The Little Napoleon tilted back his office chair, indicating his last word had been said on the perfect baseball player--without a single mention of the game's most glamorous personage, Babe Ruth. "What of the Babe?" I inquired, "Doesn't he fit somewhere in the picture?""Well," answered McGraw, "you can''t compare his fielding with Speaker's, or his throwing with Kelly's, or his speed with Frisch's, and both Hornsby and Cobb were better, if not as hard, hitters. As a gate attraction he, of course, tops them all and undoubtedly he is, with the lively ball in the game, the hardest hitter of the past decade. "But I do not see how Ruth can offer to the composite ideal anything that is not to be found perfectly supplied by those mentioned, especially when you considerthat the lively ball of his league was fashioned for his special benefit." (Sporting News, December 28, 1933, pp. 7, column 3)1957 - "Two years ago he picked an all-time American League team. He named Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb and Joe Jackson as his outfield. "What about Babe Ruth?" he was asked. "I wouldn't have Ruth on my teams. He struck out too often," said Sam.

1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint ofdrawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why" 1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and his

weak arm, there was nothing like him in baseball--on the paths and hitting. (Sporting News, Oct. 24, 1940, pp. 5, column 6)1930 - "With the Yankees doing badly it was time to put down Babe Ruth, and John B. Foster of the Consolidated Press came through with a finely tuned argument; although Ruth was hitting many home runs, other men were also hitting home runs. If otherpeople could do it, he wasn't so much. The prosecution rested. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 422)Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than thirdin any ratings by Yankee leaders. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 428)

Perhaps it's because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobbputs something into his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived. (Spalding Baseball Guide).

1939 - Jimmy Powers of the New York Daily News observes: "Scout Dick Kinsella picks an All-Time baseball team and leaves off Babe Ruth, (so did Mickey Welch). According to Kinsella: 'Ruth wouldn't have been able to hit fellows like Mathewson,Johnson and McGinnity. They'd have out-smarted him.' (Sporting News, April 13, 1939)1952 - "Ignored all training rules. No good on long throws. Liked too well to take things easy." (Sporting News, April 23, 1952, pp. 2, column 3)1940 - Who does Jimmy believe was the greatest player in the majors? None other than Hans Wagner-- for John Henry, in his opinion, had no equal. Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and the others included. "Ruth wasn't a topnotch player--he was only a hitter."explained Jimmy. "Cobb was a ball of fire and he could do most everything well, but he couldn't compare with Wagner." And Jimmy doesn't think the great double play combination of Tinker to Evers to Chance could hold a candle to the PhiladelphiaAthletics' trio of Jack Barry, Eddie Collins to Stuffy McInnis." (Sporting News, March 7, 1940, pp. 5, column 2, by Don Basenfelder)1937 - "Manager Joe McCarthy of the Yankees has dissipated the belief that a team with Babe Ruth could outdraw any club in the world at the gate," declares Wayne K. Otto of the Chicago Herald-Examiner. "The 1937 Yankees, minus Ruth, but with three ofthe greatest sluggers in the business batting in the three, four and five holes, is on the way to an all-time attendance record. McCarthy concurs in the opinion of most baseball men that Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Dickey are the greatest trio ofsluggers any one team ever possessed. The drawing power of the Yankees has been so great this season that McCarthy expects his club to have played before 2,000,000 fans at home by October in the day the season closes." (Sporting News, Sept. 9, 1937, pp. 4, column 5)

1940 - "Joe McCarthy rates Frankie Frisch along with Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker in a classification he prefers to call "perfect players." By that he means players who could hit, steal bases and field in such fashion as to "beat you single-handed."(Sporting News, March 28, 1940, pp 4, column 3, by Joe Williams, NY World-Telegraph)1950 - "Wagner and Cobb are still regarded as the best all-around ballplayers America has produced. (Holiday Magazine, May, 1950, by Joe McCarthy)Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than thirdin any ratings by Yankee leaders. (The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 428)1929 - "People have asked me if I didn't consider Babe Ruth the greatest of natural hitters. I certainly do not. There are many times when Babe looks terrible at bat. I've seen him miss a ball by two feet. Nobody ever saw Joe Jackson miss a ball two feet. Babe has his particular specialty where no one can equal him. He can hit a ball harder than anybody who ever lived. But why go outside that specialty and make claims for him that aren't true?" (Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)

1974 - "Nowadays home run hitters are considered great if they hit .270. When I was pitching, I used to love to see those guys come up to the plate who swung from the heels. I'd laugh to myself because I knew I had them. When they swing that hard, they're bound to take their eye off the ball. Tickled me pink to see those guys come up there. It's the guys who came up with their bats choked, like Joe Sewell and Charlie Gehringer, who would give you trouble. Foxx didn't choke up; Simmons didn't.But they didn't cut like they do today. Neither did Ruth. The Babe. We called him the Big Monkey, the Big Baboon. Babe didn't care a hell of a lot for me, you know. The Yankees used to come through Baltimore to play exhibition games, and he knew I

was wild and I didn't give a damn whether I hit him or not; didn't make any difference to me. He quit the game one day. I was wild, and I tore a couple buttons off his shirt. He didn't even go to first base. He just said, "I don't want any of that,"and went in and dressed. Babe never had much to say to me after that." (Baseball When the Grass Was Real by Donald Honig, 1975, pp. 82-83)1923 - "Babe Ruth is unquestionably the greatest drawing card in baseball. The impress of his personality on baseball is the most powerful and dramatic. Whether in success or failure, Babe monopolizes the spot light and he is unquestionably the goldenmagnet of the box office. But is he the greatest player? No, not by the length of many homers. His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if not mediocre. A great pitcher in his day, he is still the greatest of sluggers, but not the greatest of all round players.(Baseball Magazine, June, 1923, pp. 291, column 1, "Who is the Greatest Player in Baseball?" by F.C. Lane, pp. 291-292, 324) Article claims: 1. Sisler 2. Hornsby

1930's - "Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do

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1924 - "F. C. Lane, writing in Baseball Magazine, nominated Rogers Hornsby as one who might have enjoyed the most fame if he had had the most press-agentry. . .Comparing Ruth and Hornsby, Lane thought Hornsby the better hitter and more versatile fielder."(The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser, 1975, pp. 298)1924 - "John A. Heydler, president of the National League, seconded the nomination of Hornsby ( as better than Ruth). As Heydler pointed out, from 1920 through 1923 Hornsby had a higher batting average, more hits, more doubles, more triples. But

1922 - "The recent additional disciplining of Babe Ruth by President Johnson for vile language to Umpire Dinneen, following other suspensions for offenses since his return to the game, has had a temporary quieting effect upon this inflated and ill-disciplined young man, but of the permanence of his reform there must be grave doubt, as his entire career shows that he has not the fundamental character to build real greatness in his chosen profession upon. Ruth has been spoiled by his popularitywith the unthinking part of the public for excellence in one specialty: by the injudicious coddling and exploitation by his club; and by the incessant praise of the metropolitan writers--all of which he has not the brains, training or temperament to bear with becoming modesty or grace. His lack of ability to measure up fully to true greatness has been revealed throughout his career in recent years. When the Boston Club gave him leeway in 1919 for his home run specialty by making him a regular insteadof a pitcher, he broke the long-standing major league individual home run record, but proved such an insubordinate member of the team that Boston was glad to sell him to the New York Club. For that club in 1920 he broke the world's home run record,with the aid of the radical changes in the pitching rules, but the New York team won no pennant--owing largely to Ruth's discouraging effect on team work, though the club profited largely through his attraction as a drawing card. In 1921 he againbettered his world's record and the New York team finally won the pennant, however, not by reason of his home run hitting, but owing to the misfortunes of the Cleveland team; and that it lost the World s Series was largely due to Ruth's failure to

measure up to form and expectation in that classic event. Then came the famous "barnstorming" episode, in which Ruth defied both the laws of the game and Commissioner Landis, for which he drew a five weeks' suspension at the start of the 1922 season-- which marked the beginning of the end for Ruth. That five weeks' suspension was fatal to Ruth for the reason it prevented his proper development in condition and skill which comes only by participation in games; precluded all chance of equaling ormaking a new home run record this season, owing to his manifest decadence in batting; enabled other players to step into the home run picture, and demonstrated conclusively that he was not necessary to the New York team, as it jumped into and maintained

the lead long before Ruth and Meusel rejoined it, and lost the lead not long after these two worthies got into the game, owing to the futility of their batting. All this led to enormous shrinkage of Ruth's popularity with the fans, particularly of NewYork, many of whom turned from adulation to derision. The press, too, turned largely against the fallen idol--all of which had its effect upon a man of Ruth's limited intelligence, variable temperament, and colossal egotism, and undoubtedly led to hissenseless rows with umpires, for which he has been properly disciplined by President Johnson, who threatens to repeat the dose, upon similar provocation, until Ruth either behaves or gets out. . . In this event the brief reign of Babe Ruth, though highly profitable to the New York Club, will be memorable only for its evil effect upon the sport as a whole, as his constant exploitation as a home run hitter stimulated a home run craze in both public and players that led to temporary abandonment ofscientific play; and militated vastly against team work and discipline; and, worst of all, made a popular hero of a specialty player who lacks every qualification of a truly great player." (Sporting News, July 6, 1922, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment)1939 - "My outfield of Duffy, Cobb and Keeler is fast, they are good hitters and good throwers. My goodness! I know I left Ruth off. He had Combs playing his territory for him half the time. And Ruth was no base runner. And no great shucks as afighter. I tell you I want all-around men, with balance and fire." (New York Daily Sunday News, April 2, 1939, by Jimmy Powers)1926 - "Some have said that Ruth is a greater ball player than Cobb. Fact will hardly bear that out. Ruth is a great ball player in his specialty but he does not have it within him to be of the type that Cobb exemplified and the very nature of his

physical frame militates against him." (Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 1)

Ruth Speaker

F. Parent Chase

Ruth Collins Speaker

Sisler

Wagner RuthSimmons Ruth CochraneWagner FergusonAnsonSimmons TerryRuth SpeakerCollins Hornsby

Hornsby's home runs numbered 112 while Ruth in the same span hit 231. The crowds respected Hornsby. But they loved Ruth because he was not a beautifully classic hitter like Hornsby, but was a revolutionary slugger." (The Life That Ruth Built by

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Ratio For Striking out ( AB divided by Strikeouts) example: In 1913, Ty Cobb struck out every 13.8 times at bat.Z. Wheat

11.810.612.511.520.124

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1917 - "as an outfielder Ty Cobb is unusually good. I think his weakness, so far as he has any, is in his throwing arm. Not that his arm is weak by any means but it is not his strongest point." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1917, pp. 85,)

1917 - "Ty Cobb is a good outfielder but not the best. No one can cover any more ground than Ty. He is very fast, and ranges widely both to right & left. But he is more apt to get the hard ones than the easy ones & his throwing arm is not in the

1932 - "Ty certainly had superiors in the outfield, though it seems to me that he never received quite the credit that was due him on defense. He was a much better outfielder than many people supposed. But his fielding was completely eclipsed by

1912 - Joe Wood was not only a teammate of Tris Speaker when he wrote this, but Tris' roommate and best friend. "Tris Speaker has played a wonderful game this year. It is his great work which has shown up so strongly and which accounts so largely for

the Red Sox' success. Many people compare Speaker with Ty Cobb. I suppose the Chalmers Automobile Commission will have to choose between these two for the final honor. Personally, I think Speaker on many accounts should get the prize, and at that, Iam willing to admit there is only one Ty Cobb. Ty is a better batter than Speaker, he is a better base runner. Everyone will concede that. He has always been more daring, more resourceful, although Speaker is fast breaking into that department of thethe game as well. But Speaker is a better fielder than Ty Cobb. He covers more ground, has as good if not a better throwing arm and while many people think that Cobb can run back an outfield fly farther than any other player in the game. I do not

think he has anything on Speaker in this respect. Speaker often plays well in, backing up second base in good shape, but he can go back into the outfield territory for a hard batted drive as far as anybody I ever saw. I think Speaker is superior to JoeJackson admitting that Joe is a wonderful player in every department of the game and Joe, too, has one point in which he exceeds not only Speaker and Ty Cobb, but everyone else in the business. He can throw from deep outfield farther than anybody I ever saw. I firmly believe there is no man in either league who can throw a ball as far as Jackson, but in several games where I have watched his peculiar ability in this line I have noticed that he is not always accurate in his throws and much of theadvantage which should come to him from this ability is lost through wildness. Jackson, of course, is a very great player and still young. He has been greatly handicapped by lack of early training, and I believe has not always had the encouragement orgood coaching to bring out the best of his talents. No doubt he will improve in coming seasons and if he could play in the East as well as he does in the west, he would beat them all out. Jackson bats at a .500 clip in his own city or on the averagewestern tour but for some reason cuts that in half on his eastern excursions. Why this is so, no one knows. It is one of the peculiarities of baseball and baseball players. It is hard to compare these three players, for they all excel in some onepoint or more. Oddly enough, they are all Southerners, and all wonders. They are far and away the greatest outfielders in the game, bar none. It is very fortunate for the red Sox that they have on their club one of these three players. No one can

1931 - "In the outfield Ty was not supposed to be a star, but he always impressed me favorably. He was fast & could cover acres of ground. He certainly knew how to judge opposing batters as well as anyone

1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end."(Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1)(Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1950 - "One of the finest outfielders I have known was Ty Cobb. He is written down in baseball history for many other accomplishments: I do not believe that he has been given full credit for his achievements as a fielder. Cobb was a real "ball hawk."

He knew, somehow, at the instant the pitcher let go of the ball where it was going to be hit, and times without number he would move to the spot in time for the catch when there was no earthly reason for him to be there. He had a peculiar way of catching a fly ball which hasn't been duplicated & which I would not recommend to anyone else; I doubt if anyone but Cobb could do the trick. On a fly, Cobb wouldn't look at the ball. He would look down at the ground & catch the ball directly over his head without even looking.Ty was very much misunderstood by many fans around the country but there is no player in the history of the game who excelled him in all-round ability."(From Sandlot to Big League,Connie Mack,1950,pp.59-60)1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. But he was a great outfielder with a great arm." (immediately after Ty died in July,'61)1961 - "He was a winner all the time. Ty would do anything to win a ball game, but when he got off the field, he was a perfect gentleman. Ty was a tremendous outfielder. . He was outstanding in everything." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1926 - "He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, to get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that of

1910 - "As for Cobb's fielding prowess, no manager could ask for a better man to play in right field, although doubtless there have been men who played the batsmen better and men who threw more accurately. No one will question the assertion that Cobb

covers as much ground as any player ever did, and as he catches almost everything he reaches, and reaches lots of balls that other fielders could not reach, I don't see what more any one could ask of him. He has a good throwing arm, and, what is better,he is not afraid to use it. He lets go of the ball the minute he knows where he is going to throw, and he usually thrown to the right place.On recovering long, and short hits to the outfield the Detroit man has few equals."(New York Times, April 17, 1910)1934 - "When Ty Cobb came to the big leagues back in 1905 he was an awkward and ordinary outfielder. His burning ambition and readiness to work on his weaknesses raised him within a few years to the baseball heights. To watch Cobb chasing flies in his

prime was to see the supreme master and judge of distance, direction and speed. It seemed that the crack of the bat was the signal by itself for sending Cobb to the right spot. He looked the part of the born ball player, to him fly chasing was asinstinctive as eating, but it was well known that he was developed out of a rookie, as most ball players are. But in contrast to Cobb there was Tris Speaker who was what may be termed a finished fielder when he reached the big leagues. His developmentmerely came earlier, and perhaps, easier. As an infielder, George Sisler may be placed in this class also. He was a highly finished product during his college days at the University of Michigan, so that when the St. Louis Browns signed him to a

1915 - "On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had the better throwing armof the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another.

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Hugh S. Fullerton in Golfer tells of a remarkable play in base running-yet one not remarkable for Cobb,for, as a friend remarked, "He pulls that stuff all the time. "Mr. Fullerton describes Cobb in a game in Detroit some years ago. "Late in the game,he made a play which opened my eyes. A runner was on second base when a short fly was hit over second into center. Cobb could have handled it without an effort. The second baseman or shortstop could have caught it, but it would have required a faststart. Cobb claimed the catch the instant the ball was hit. "Instead of starting for it at top speed he leaped forward, seemed to hesitate, started slowly and half stopped. Bush, who evidently knew the system, started out hard as if to try to catch the

ball. Cobb yelled something. Bush stopped and backed up. The ball was falling and Cobb was still lagging. It looked fifty to one the ball would fall safe. The runner on second thought he saw the ball falling, thought Cobb didn't have a chance to makethe catch and he leaped toward third. As he did so Cobb sprang forward with a wonderful sprint, made a desperate shoe-string catch, came up with the ball and tossed it to second, doubling the runner off the bag. He had made a play where there was none--had deliberately plotted to deceive the runner into believing the ball would fall safe, and had risked making a desperate catch to get the chance for a double play." (NL Spalding Baseball Guide, date uncertain)

1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's(of Swat) - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means a poor fielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than abusy man in the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only

one on which he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder."

1916 - Aty centre all will acknowledge that Ty Cobb is something of a batter, but to give Ty due justice, he would never have been a star of the 1st magnitude as a fielder. He covers much ground, to be sure, but his throwing arm is not particularlygood. Certainly Ty is not in the same class with Clyde Milan as a fielder, to say nothing of Tris Speaker and several others. Milan is nearly a perfect fielder, prabably second only to the peerless Tris. He is also a good batter, but his fielding is

1916 - "As a fielder, while not in the same class as Harry Hooper or Clyde Milan, Joe is certainly not poor. In fact, he is very good. Furthermore, his throwing arm is tremendously strong & his speed is great, though not always utilized to the full."

1916 - "Joe Jackson isn't a wonderful fielder and his throwing arm, although strong, isn't always backed up by equally good judgment in direction. But who would keep a player off the outfield squad with a possible .400 ave. in his bat.?

1917 - "Joe Jackson has great natural talents. He is by no means a poor outfielder as some people would have us believe. He is a good one. but it is fair to admit that his forte is in batting rather than fielding." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1917)1929 - "In the matter of sheer natural ability, I believe Joe Jackson surpassed every outfielder that ever came to the major leagues. That opinion was once ventured by Frank Navin, who happens to be one of the keenest judges of baseball talent underthe big top. I have never heard Jackson analyzed in that manner before, but after glancing back through the big parade of rookies that have bowed in and out of major league premises, I doubt if any expert can help but concur in that view. Of course,Of course, back of that opinion that Jackson stood highest in that one vital respect, it is obvious that he failed to develop his inherent skill. Nevertheless, he had the distinction of being a star by virtue of mechanical ability alone. If he hadpossessed the baseball brain of a Cobb or a Speaker, he might have shared the pedestal with these once super-stars. Jackson's mechanical power was amazing. He was tall, and had a great natural eye which made him a potential batsman. He sprinted overthe outfield territory with ease and grace in long strides, and rivaled Bob Meusel as a thrower. "Mister Joe" as he preferred to be called, was a dead catch on flies, yet, he made no effort to give a close or scientific exhibition of outfielding. He wasentirely lacking in initiative, and never resorted to tricks or subterfuge to put something over on the opposition. Jackson should have been one of the greatest base runners in the game, on account of his speed, but the fine points of pilfering were

foreign to him. By an odd twist of the fates, Jackson just missed becoming a member of the Detroit Tigers when he was a busher. On the day the Detroit ivory-hunter chose to watch the big fellow do his stuff, Joe placidly galloped through nine innings inhis stocking feet. The searcher of talent immediately concluded that Jackson was too goofy to get by in the big leagues, and left the park in disgust. Jackson later defended his act with the explanation that spiked shoes hurt his feet. The nickname"Shoeless Joe" was the result of that unique incident. At the plate one day after he had biffed a long hard foul, the catcher complimented Jackson in this wise: "How do you bust them so hard, Joe?" And the elongated Jackson naively replied,"Don't know--I jes' swing, and they go safe." That remark probably reflected Jackson's make-up. He just did things on the ball field, and could give no illuminating reason for it. Jackson's admirers always liked to believe that he was led into theBlack Sox affair of 1919, and would have followed the straight line of duty if he had been accustomed to self-assertiveness." (Baseball Magazine, Feb. 1929, pp. 430-431, "On the Bench With George Moriarty, by George Moriarty)

1938 - "Ruth could make marvelous catches of fly balls that were as spectacular in their cleverness as made by any outfielder playing ball. Especially was this true of those long high flies which, to a slower man, it would have been impossible

1929 - And then I thought of Cobb, Speaker and Ruth and I discarded all others. These men represent the pick of all-time in any man's league. You simply can't escape them. Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, thegreatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime. And as to Ruth, well, he is still with us and going at his best. Many believe Ruth just a slugger and a home run showman. That is not

the truth. Ruth is a great player as well as a great hitter. He is a splendid fielder and a good base runner for his size. He is a better thrower than Cobb was, and Ty was good in his earlier days. He has the baseball instinct, as shown by the factthat he has played first base and has pitched, and at each position he has been successful to a high degree. In my opinion, Ruth is not outshone by the other two outfielders named. He is one of the greatest players that ever lived, in my opinion.

1931 - "He is really a great outfielder, one of the greatest. He plays batters correctly, covers a lot more ground than you'd think he'd be able to do with his bulk, and has one of the deadliest throwing arms ever known. Besides, Babe has an accurate

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1924 - "Most enthusiasts think of Ruth only as a mighty batsman. As a matter of fact, he is a very finished outfielder with a marvelous throwing arm. . . Ruth plays a hard-hit ball as well as any outfielder in the business. He goes after a ground ball

1947 - "Few modern fans may realize it, but Babe Ruth was a great outfielder. We mean defensively. The Babe rarely dropped a ball he got his glove on and nobody can remember when he threw to the wrong base. How did he get that way? Not by sitting

1975 - ". . .Ruth?. . . But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he was a great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer. (Baseball Research Journal,1987, #16, pp. 54)

1936 - "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew.1923 - "His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if not mediocre. ( Baseball Magazine, June, 1923, pp. 291)1924 - "Babe Ruth is baseball's greatest drawing card. His all round value, considering his terrific hitting, is perhaps unequaled. But Babe will never see the day when he ranks with Pep Youngs as an outfielder, taking into consideration only theplaying of that important position. Ruth knows batters and he plays them correctly. He can camp under a high fly as well as the next man. He has one of the greatest throwing arms ever seen in the outfield. But when you have said this, you have said it all. Babe is rather clumsy. He isn't specially fast. He's not a great outfielder. Pep Youngs is all these things, and he also has a whip as deadly as a rifle. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 307, Comprising interview with Ross Youngs by F.C. Lane)1946 - "But there also were numerous occasions when the Babe made plays which he had craftily thought up beforehand. Such as the day he played left field in Detroit and trapped no less an experienced hand than Charley Gehringer into thinking a fly

ball had cleared the fence for a homer instead of coming down for an easy out. This was before the present double deck stands had been erected in what then was call Navin Field. There was just a board fence in left and to the Babe one day it occurredthat with a runner on second it could be possible, with a high fly ball hit out toward left, to fake all the notions of a dejected outfielder who knows a homer is about to sail over his head. So he bided his time and one afternoon it came. With Gehringer on second, a high fly soared out to left. The Babe ran back to the fence, looked up at the ball for a moment and then with a motion of utter disgust shrugged his shoulders and cast his eyes on the ground. It was a beautiful piece of acting and

fooled Gehringer completely. Certain the ball was clearing the fence, the Tiger second baseman headed for home. And in that same moment Ruth darted forward, got his eyes back on that ball and caught it some five feet in front of the fence. Doubling up Gehringer at second was then a simple matter. Of course, in order to accomplish the trick an outfielder must be equipped with the gift of being able to take his eye off the ball for an appreciable length of time. But then the effervescent Babe Ruth

1930 - His (McGraw's) deepest admiration went out to Ty Cobb, because Cobb was another firebrand always out to win. The first two qualities he looked for were fight and brains because he knew they were game-winners. (Collier's, April 5, 1930)1930 - "My choice of an all-time, all-star team? I'll tell you: Honus Wagner, shortstop and lead-off man, Ty Cobb in center, Willie Keeler in right field, Babe Ruth in left,batting fourth, Lou Gehrig behind him and at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, Jimmy Collins at third, Roger Bresnahan catching and Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson pitching. What a team of sweet hitting, sweet fielding, sweet pitching players that would be. I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, rather

1931 - …Bob Davis asked John J. (McGraw) who was the best all-around player in the history of the game, and without a moment's hesitation came back with the answer: "Honus Wagner. In my humble opinion, he stands out as the supreme figure. Wagnerhad everything, and when I say that, every baseball fan in the United States knows what I mean. Ty Cobb is a close second. There are a number of other players who have special gifts, but Wagner and Cobb had all the gifts. I doubt if the next generation

1931 - "Wagner could do everything required of a ball player." said McGraw as he sat in the Giants' dugout in the Polo Grounds. "he had tremendous hands and in addition to his great playing ability, had a wonderful disposition and was easy to handle.I'll place Cobb second and Keeler third. Al Simmons is my next pick as I consider him the greatest ball player of the present day. Like Wagner, he is a right-handed hitter of power and can field his position splendidly and throw fast and accurately.Simmons is no dumb ball player, either. My own first baseman, Bill Terry, is included in my selection. He is really a great ball player and the best first baseman I have ever seen." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931)

1909 - "Cobb is the fastest man I have ever seen," he told The Sporting News. "I never thought he could have that much speed. I heard a lot about Cobb, and how fast he was, but he surprised me by the speed he showed on the bases in the World Series.Cobb is what I call a perfect player. He lacks nothing. There is not a thing a ballplayer should have that Cobb hasn't got, and he's got a bunch of things that no other ballplayer has." (Carnegie Union, Oct.21,1909) A month after the Series had ended,Wagner joined Cobb in the fields near Macon, Georgia. The Sporting News quoted Wagner as saying: "I could have had a crack at a ground squirrel or two and perhaps a barnyard chicken, but as for hunting, Georgia won't do. Mr. Cobb is one of the most

genial gentlemen I have ever met, but there are two things we will never agree on--game and baseball…The South is all right, and Cobb's all right, too, but I wish he hadn't told me about the swell hunting in Georgia." (The Sporting News, Dec.16,1909) Undated - "I always liked Ty. He was a fighter and he knew it was a fellow's duty to protect himself out there. Lots of 'em had trouble with Ty, but I never did." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 170)1931 - "Ty Cobb was Hornsby's hero, and this is what he had to say about him: "Of course, I never saw Cobb when I was a kid, because the Tigers didn't ever come to Fort Worth, and I didn't ever get very far from it. But as far back as I can remember, Iwanted to be a great hitter, and I guess there never was a greater hitter than Cobb. So he was my hero and, on account of him,the Tigers were my favorite team, and I followed him and the Tigers through the newspapers every day. I first saw himin the spring of 1916, when I was with the Cardinals in training at San Antonio and we went to Waxahachie, where the Tigers trained, to play an exhibition game. I didn't say anything to him and he didn't say anything to me, but I got a thrill out of watching him because in those days he was plenty good. He handled a bat like a billiard-cue, and he was on fire every time he got on the bases. Later I got to know him real well, and to like him as much as I thought I would when I was a kid."

1961 - "Cobb was the greatest ball player of all time and will never be equaled. Most record books simply talk about his hitting and base stealing. Ty was a tremendous outfielder with a great arm. He was outstanding in everything. Cobb was called a dirty

1962 - "Ty Cobb, who in my opinion is the greatest player of all time, still holds the stolen-base record of 96 he set in 1915, the year I came to the major leagues. Now cobb--I've played against him in exhibitions and managed against him in the 1921

Winter League in California when he managed the San Francisco Seals and I managed the Los Angeles Angels. He was a helluva competitor. . . He led the American League in stolen bases 6 times. Led the league in batting 12 times. And, as I've said all

Now Babe Ruth. They may have written more about the Babe than about George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. All I can say new about Ruth is that he hit for power--not average--and had a lifetime batting average of .342. Dead ball or lively ball, he'd hit 60

1931 - "For third place you simply must make room for Ty Cobb. Ty was the most brilliant ballplayer baseball has produced, the most daring, the most spectacular. Ty was poison on the base-paths. He completely disrupted infield defense. At bat he alwaysmixed ability with brains. He had the most versatile batting attack on record. I have publicly said many times that Ty was my own batting model, and he was. I tried to learn place hitting by watching him. No one that I ever heard of taught

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Ty how to bat. But dozens of players owe a good deal of their own batting success to Ty's teaching. (Baseball Magazine, April , 1931, pp. 484, "The Greatest Player I Ever Saw, Comprising an Interview With George Sisler, pp. 483-484)1942 - "If you played during the years that he was burning up the league, you cold never forget the Georgian. I know that I never will." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters

"The greatness of Ty Cobb was something that had to be seen, and to see him was to remember him forever." said George Sisler, the brilliant first baseman who contended against him for more than a decade. (Ty Cobb by Charles C. Alexander, 1984, prologue 1)

1931 - Settling on Cobb for center field, the Babe told the Associated Press, "We've got to give it to Ty because of his offensive ability. He was in a class by himself everywhere but on the defense. I would rate Hap Felsch

1933 - "Ty Cobb was the greatest all-around ballplayer that he has even seen. Babe Ruth declared in a recent fanning bee, in listing the stars he has seen in action during his long career on the diamond. He placed Napoleon Lajoie first among thegreatest natural hitters, ranking Sam Crawford second and Joe Jackson third. Walter Johnson was his choice of greatest pitcher, with Bob Grove second and Herb Pennock named the smartest. Shucks Pruett, with his screw ball, was credited with giving the

1936 - "The greatest ballplayer I ever saw? Well, I'll have to say Ty Cobb. He could do more with a bat than any player in my time and I don't suppose there ever was a base runner like him. They'll tell you he wasn't much of a fielder, but he was good

rivals are on opposing sides again. Cobb having come here from his California home to manage the Western All-Stars against Babe Ruth's Easterners in Esquire's boy's baseball game at the Polo Grounds Tuesday night. "Make no mistake about that," bellowedthe home-run king. The old boy was the greatest player I ever saw or hope to see. When I was pitching I had fair success against all the other great hitters, but Cobb was one guy I never could get out. I had a reputation as a slugger and I guess I

could him 'em pretty far at that, but that guy Cobb could do everything -- better than any player I ever saw. Old Georgia Peach was a great hitter, a spectacular fielder, a wonderful thrower and oh boy, how he could run. You think I set a lot of records,"the Babe went on, wiping his brow, "why the old boy still owns, how many records is it, Ty? Forty-two?" "They say I used to scare pitchers just by strolling to the plate but those guys always had a remedy for me. Whenever they were afraid I'd knock oneout of the park, they'd walk me and their worries would be over. But once Cobb got on base then their worries really began. He would upset not only the pitcher or catcher, but the infield as well by going from, first to third on a sacrifice bunt, scoring from second on an infield out, taking two bases on an outfield fly and making delayed steals. "One of the biggest thrills I ever got out of baseball was to watch Cobb head into a base. He always reminded me of Man-of-War tearing through thehomestretch. Fans still talk about the home run I hit in the 1932 World Series off Charlie Root of the Cubs after I pointed to the right-field stands. Well I once remember Cobb beating out 4 bunts down the third base line in one game againstBilly Bradley, a wonderful third baseman for Cleveland. That was after Cobb warned Bradley he would bunt to him every time he got up. Another time Cobb warned Lou Criger, a great catcher with Boston, that he would steal second, third and home on him

to the fact Cobb led the league 12 times in 13 years, three times with over .400 averages, finished with a lifetime mark of .367 and tops all hitters in total hits, runs, triples, total bases and stolen bases and you have the greatest player of them all.

1946 - "You can say for me that Ty Cobb was the greatest I ever saw, or ever heard about. Play him towards left center and he'd hit down the right field foul line. If you hugged the foul line he'd hit the ball into left center," Ruth thundered. "When Iwas pitching I'd always make him hit the dirt by throwing the ball at his right ear. He'd get up and try to knock the ball down my throat. When Cobb was on first, I'd count three and throw to second. When I was pitching for the Red Sox, Heinie Wagner wasour shortstop. Heinie'd block the bag, but Ty would cut him from ankle to knee with his spikes," Babe continued with gusto. "Why, Ty used to trim Home Run Baker's hair with his spikes. I guess they play more polite baseball today. In our day, Ty's and

1924 - Replying to the writer's query as to whom he considered the greatest all-around player player in the game, the pitcher said: That is a tough question, but if you insist upon an answer, my selection is Ty Cob. My reasons are several. He is oneof the greatest, probably the greatest batter, that ever lived. He is an excellent fielder and a most dangerous base runner. In fact, he is a star of the highest ranking in every department of the game. But the qualifications that I have alreadymentioned are not the only measures of Cobb's usefulness. It is the zest, the never-say-die spirit with which he plays that adds to his usefulness to the team. The fight and fire of his enthusiasm of his play are confusing to his opponents and spur his

1925 - "In 18 years, I have never had an unfriendly word with Cobb. I consider him one of my best friends. Even when I landed from the wilds of Idaho, a raw and frightened kid, Cobb treated me right.""He was always willing to fight to win, but I don't believe Cobb ever picked a fight just for the sake of a row. Leave him alone and treat him right and he is all you expect to find in a well-mannered Southern gentleman. But start something unfair andyou'll get a fight--whether you're a ballplayer or a taxicab driver! It didn't take me long to size him up as a hot-headed young fellow who didn't mean half the things he said." (Walter Johnson by Henry W. Thomas, 1995, pp. 145)1925 - "If you're talking about great players, Ty is in a class by himself." (Baseball Magazine, The Greatest Batters I Have Ever Faced, by Walter Johnson, June, 1925, pp. 291, 292, 327, 329; quote appears on pp. 292)

1929 - "Ty was the smartest player that I ever saw by so great a margin that I won't even bother to think who was second best. And that's credit enough. For brains are just as prominent in baseball as in any other profession. Ty was always about three jumps ahead of the crowd. That's what made him such a wonderful star. You could never dope out what he was going to do next. Always, he had you guessing. He had the infield up in the air. He was continually getting the catcher's goat. The

(Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)1931 - "Cobb received another first-place vote from Walter Johnson, former great right-handed pitcher and now manager of the Washington Senators. Johnson was lavish in his praise of the "Georgia Peach." He gave Wagner second place and then namedJackson, Ruth and Collins. He had a hard time deciding between Collins and Speaker, with Eddie winning by a shade." (Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managers and coaches, who they thought

1942 - "He could do everything better than any player I ever saw. He was always the first one to detect weaknesses or mistakes of the opposition and benefit by the same." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) Sporting

1965 - "The great unrealized and almost never-mentioned contribution of Cobb to the winning of games was his constant wrecking of pitcher concentration on the pitch. With Cobb on first, or any base for that matter, many pitchers over a period of, say,twenty years became simply "throwers." He caused catchers to call for more pitch-outs by far than any player in the history of the game, thereby setting up constantly the three-and-one and two-and-nothing situations for the next batsman and givingrepeated opportunity for the batsman to hit the "cripple.". . . I never knew of any player other than Cobb practicing sliding with the intent of using the loose foot to kick the ball out of the baseman's hand. He actually practiced that movement. And

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Cobb could and did concentrate on it with great effect. It led to the general charge throughout the American League that, on occasion, he intentionally spiked the tagged. I don't think he ever spiked anyone intentionally. . . But he was not a cruelplayer - not in my book. One more word on Cobb on the subject of his hitting. I may have left the impression that Cobb was not a power hitter. On several occasions he would engage in a pre-game exhibition contest of power hitting. It is said that henever lost a single contest. He could drive a ball for tremendous distance when that was his only purpose. I don't believe that Cobb, when batting, ever had a home run in his mind. . . . Cobb is to be understood rather than maligned unjustly. . . The truth is that Cobb is the greatest one-game player in all baseball history. He was the most positive character in the game. He was baseball's most earnest and assiduous learner. He was the greatest perfectionist, both on offense and defense.

No player could come close to Cobb's record. Probably no one will ever equal it. Who's the greatest player that ever performed in the major leagues? The vote would surely be Cobb or Wagner. Take your pick. Cobb had a psychological effect on opponents which Wagner did not have. Wagner had a morale value among his teammates which Cobb did not have. If I had first chance in making up an all-time All-American team for a season's play of 154 games, I would be compelled to choose Wagner. But for

1942 - "I think he was the most sensational base-runner who ever lived. He could get more base hits than any competitor simply by worrying the pitchers to desperation and crossing up the infielders." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest

1961 - "He was on the bases all the time, and could beat a ball club all by himself with his stealing and base-running…He was a good friend of mine. I got some very nice encouragement and suggestions from him while I was managing the Yankees."

1975 - "I never saw anyone like Ty Cobb. No one even close to him as the greatest all-time ballplayer. Ruth was sensational. Cobb went beyond that. When he wiggled those wild eyes at a pitcher, you knew you were looking at the one bird no one could

1918 - "Take Ty Cobb, for instance, the most illustrious of batters, Ty is versatile almost beyond belief. He can hit in any direction he pleases, as nearly as any batter can do so. And yet Ty has his tendencies and his preferences. When Ty is at batI do not play him exactly in the center of the outfield. I play him in left centre. For experience has taught me that he will hit more often in that direction than toward the opposite field. Of course Cobb is one of the hardest men in the world to play

for. Many outfielders make little or no attempt to play for him at all. But the average player is by no means in that category." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1918, pp. 825, Fine Points of the Game Which Are Lost on the Crowd, by Tris Speaker)

1925 - "There's no doubt in my mind that Ty is the best all-around hitter who ever lived," reiterated Tris Speaker. "He can bunt, chop-hit, deliver long drives, or put balls out of sight." (Cobb by Alvin Stump, 1994, pp. 363)1942 - "He could do all that any player should do and had besides great competitive spirit and the willingness to take chances at all times. (Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to

1944 - "Yes, Cobb was the greatest I ever looked at," said Tris Speaker as we sat in the 4 and 20 Bar of the Hotel Carter. "There have been some better fielders--say, like Hap Felsch--and some better throwers --take Joe Jackson, for instance--but when everything is considered there has never been a man in baseball to equal Ty. If he had a weakness at bat, it was a pitch right through the middle, because he hit late.". . . I've known Ty well for all these years, and what a ball player he was! As a base runner I never saw him go out of his way to cut a man's legs off, but he read the rule books. He knew that the paths belonged to the runner." (Sporting News, January 6, 1944, pp. 7, column 1, by Ward Morehouse, Cleveland, O.)

1950 - Tris Speaker, one of the greatest outfielders of all-time, nominates Ty Cobb as the No. 1 player. Speaker insists none could compare with Cobb. "It was Ty's spirit," said Speaker, "that made him great. It was the most competitive thing insports. It not only actuated him; It kindled a flaming will to win in every member of Ty's team. And it frequently developed hysteria in the opposing nine. I know. I always played against Ty until my last year in baseball. Ty and I were then playing

1954 - "When we both were young and going good," he said, "the writers were kind enough to say of me that I was the closest thing to him. Now, Let's not be immodest about this. I was good and I knew it. I had to know it because it says so in thebook. But, good as I was, I never was close to Cobb and neither was Ruth or anybody else. . . Ruth was a great ball player. But, in my opinion, Cobb was even greater; the Babe could knock your brains out, but Cobb would drive you crazy."

1915 - "What Johnson is to pitchers, in my opinion, Ty Cobb is to all other players. There might be a good deal of discussion as to who is entitled to rank as the greatest player on the diamond, but not in my opinion when Cobb is still in the game.His gifts are so unusual, so far above the next best, that he stands in a class by himself. I have never seen and never expect to see from any other person such wonderful playing as Ty Cobb has performed at his very best when facing the Athletics andthat may be better than his usual average. It might well be and yet that average surpasses anything of which any other player is capable. I frankly admit that I never expect, have never expected to equal Cobb as a ball player. The best that any other

1924 - "Unhesitatingly I would say Ty Cobb [is the best ball player]. I won't attempt to describe him. You all know him. The most conspicious figure in the game for the past twenty years, whose wonderful natural ability, indomitable spirit, courage and

1928 - "I find it a trifle difficult to express concisely my esteem for Ty Cobb. Since my entry into Baseball, he has been my Model and I have striven to imitate his style of play. To me, he seems Perfection, personified. It doesn't seem sufficient toto just say, "the greatest ballplayer of all time." At one time bitterest rivals, it is most gratifying to me to become a team mate of Ty's, in the closing years of our careers. I feel confident that this Most Excellent Biography of the game's Premier

1931 - Collins labeled Ty Cobb as the greatest player he ever saw. For distance hitting, he made a bow to Babe Ruth. No one ever hit the ball as hard as the big Bambino. Bur for all-around play-give

1942 - "Why was Cobb the greatest? Obvious."(Sporting News, April 2,1942, pp. 1 & 13) (Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed over100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1944 - "Eddie Collins turned the tables on Ty Cobb when he learned that the former Detroit star had selected him as the ball player's ball player of all-time. Ty was so far superior to any other player that no one else could touch him," Collins said. Despite his natural ability as a hitter and fielder, it was his everlasting determination to be the best and to improve himself that made him the greatest player of all time." Agreeing with Cobb that Joe Jackson was the greatest of the game's hitters,

1950 - "There was never a more dynamic player than Cobb, and as long as it had to be a player of Ty's stature that dimmed my own shining star, I can't say I have any regrets. He was in a class by himself. It's to my disadvantage there was no playergreater before him or since. In my opinion I'd have shown to much greater advantage if I had played in any era but the era of Cobb. We were good friends during our playing days and remain good friends today. There's another matter I'd like to getstraight now, too. I want to correct the erroneous impression that Cobb deliberately went out of his way to spike opposing players. It just wasn't so, and I was in a position in know - for many times I felt the lightning touch of his flying spikes. He was a very aggressive and outstanding player. He asked no quarter and gave none. I can truthfully say I remember no time that he went out of his way to cut down another player. He was a hard slider, and if that sounds like an awkward or cumbersome phrase, let me explain that the next base was always his objective. His spikes left their marks on countless players, but that was because he was such an aggressive, victory-hungry player. If anyone blocked his way a collision was inevitable. I know

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from years of observation and close association with him as a rival player that he was an elusive slider who frequently slid away from a tag rather than adopt football tactics. (Sporting News, Oct. 18, 1950, pp. 14, column 1)1950 - "Ty Cobb had joined the team in 1927, as I previously stated, and our friendship blossomed into a close companionship. In fact, it was Ty who embarked me on my career as a baseball executive." (Sporting News, Nov.8, 1950, pp. 13, column 1)1950 - "Then an ambition I had long harbored was finally realized. Ty Cobb, the greatest of all baseball players, had been picked up by Connie Mack along with me. I had always wanted to play on the same team with Cobb. Ty's acquisition by Connie Mack seemed as fantastic as the selection by Mr. Comiskey in 1924 of Chance as manager of the White Sox. It just seemed inconceivable that Cobb would ever be seen in a uniform other than that worn by the Tigers. He had the same indomitable spirit he had

when I first played against him years earlier, but the old legs had started to go and where the spirit was plenty willing the muscles refused to co-ordinate in the manner of other years. His trigger-like brain however, was still functioning on all

1924 - "Some people used to ridicule that standing order in baseball, to throw the ball one base ahead of Ty. but it was no joke. It was frequently done. In the old days you never could afford to take the slightest chance with Ty. If you did, hewould generally outwit you. His amazing dash and nerve and instantaneous get-a-way were a tricky and brilliant combination to beat. There probably have been players faster than Ty on a straight-away dash. I will even concede there have been players asfast as he in getting down to first. Burt Shotton was a veritable arrow in his day. But Ty had them all stopped when it came to consistent, persistent, daring base-running at any and all times. He was like compressed steam, always exerting pressure,always searching out a weak spot here and there to display his seemingly inexhaustible and tireless energies. Doubtless, when I have said Good-bye to baseball, there will appear in future days some young phenomenon whom scribes and public will hail as greater than Ty Cobb. But they will have some contract on their hands to convince me, and I will cheerfully travel a big distance for a chance to see that player when he appears. For if he's better than Ty Cobb, it will be worth all the exertion of along journey just to see him perform on a diamond. . . . It has always been a regret in my career that I never saw Hans Wagner play. generally conceded the greatest of shortstops, he must have been a wonder. But I know of him only through hearsay.

1962 - Barbara Tyler was private secretary to Collins for many years. According to Miss Tyler, Collins never talked in glowing terms about any other player the way he did about Ty. "If you ever wanted Mr. Collins to extol the virtues of a great ballplayer, " Miss Tyler stated, "all you had to mention was Ty's name. Then Mr. Collins would go on for hours telling about the greatest player who ever lived." (Sporting News, January 3, 1962, pp. 17, column 5)

1961,July - "One of the greatest of all ball players, but not the greatest. I put him on the same level with Honus Wagner. We always got along well, despite what people said. We were friends." "I regarded Cobb on a level with Honus Wagner as perhaps

to get along with. He wasn't a friendly, good-natured guy, like Wagner was, or Walter Johnson, or Babe Ruth. ... Well, who knows, maybe if he hadn't had that persecution complex, he never would have been the great ballplayer that he was. He was always trying to prove he was the best, on the field and off. And maybe he was, at that." (The Glory of Their Times by Lawrence S. Ritter, March 27 & Aug.1, 1964, audio tapes, also pp. 59, 61 of book.1951 - "I never get tired of talking about him," he said. "He was the greatest player I ever saw. He'd drag a bunt or push a bunt or drive a ball through the mound so that your life was never completely safe at any time. I had a little trouble with

1961 - "The best baseball player in the world has died. It is too bad for the profession that he had to leave us so that the young players coming up won't get to know him. He was a fighter till the last." (Cleveland Plain Dealer, July 18, 1961, pp. 26)1925 - Before Cobb had eye surgery to remove a filmy growth from his eyes in early March, 1926, Cobb had complained during the '26 season that he had had trouble following the ball. To which Bob (Lefty) Grove had this to say. "And he says he's going

1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint ofdrawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why"

1942 - "He did everything perfectly." (Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

" 'Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player who ever pulled on a pair of shoes,' was the way Jimmy emphasized it. " 'I'm certainly not questioning Ruth's greatness. Babe had the glamour and he was good. However, there isn't a player who ever lived who could

match Cobb's greatness in so many departments. Name any phase of the game and you always end up agreeing that Cobb was the master. It adds up to greatness. The trouble with these polls is that too many of the voters never saw the men they were rating. I've been lucky in that respect. I started playing in the American League in 1916 and have remained in it--except for the two years I ran the Hollywood club." (Sporting News, March 1, 1950, pp. 14, column 3)1962 - "There is no question about the man's greatness, and that should be the end of it," Jimmie replied. ""I played with him and against him and had the greatest respect for the man on and off the field. . .Ty was distant off the field and there arethose who tend to degrade this type of person. But, that didn't bother Ty or detract from his great ability as a player. As for the charges that he deliberately spiked his opponents, it's hogwash. Ty was a hard competitor and all he asked for on theplaying field was what he was entitled to. If he knocked out a base-hit, he wanted a piece of that base to arrive safely. Naturally, if some clown was foolish enough to block the bag, he would have to suffer any consequences that might result."

1967 - "Picking the outfield is easy. In left, Ty Cobb, who knew every possible trick in the book that'd get him on and then show some new ones to us who got in his way. No one has yet surpassed Ty as a hitter and baserunner and no one ever will." ( You

1925 - "I wasn't in the league when Cobb was at this best as a baser-runner. But I found him always dangerous once he reached first. If his legs had slowed up a bit, he headwork hadn't. He was the best slider in the league. I've never found a man harder to tag. I might not have looked as good at second if I'd been there whe the Georgian was in his prime as a base-runner. Cobb developed himself by hard work and using his brains. Men who knew him whem he was breaking in said he worked twice as

hard as any of the other Detriot players. He never loafed. His energy was amazing. He was the finished product long before I entered the league. He had perfected himself in every detail. If you gave him half a chance he was sure to outguess you. He backed his natural speed with intelligent effort. Cobb was a self-made success if there ever was one. In my judgement he was the greatest of them all." (Los Angeles Times, Feb 2, 1925, pg. 10) By 1931, Bucky had swung to Babe as the greatest player ever.

1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and his

1930 - "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)

greatest all-around player who ever lived was Honus Wagner. Cobb was a great ballplayer, no doubt about it. But he sure wasn't' easy

: "Jimmy Dykes, who played third base in the American League for 23 years, disagrees strongly with the recent poll that tabbed Babe Ruth as the greatest player of the half-century.

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1914 - "I have seen them all," said Bobbie Lowe, the veteran Boston and Detroit infielder, "but Cobb stands alone, the greatest of all time. I doubt if there will ever be another like him." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1914)1950 - "There have been luminaries at every position, but you can take it from me no matter what anybody else says, and a lot of them have had plenty to say, nobody ever came close to the all-round class of Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the greatest ball player

1917 - "There were great players when I broke into the game as a green youngster, great players who would rank with the best of today. But I must except Ty Cobb's name from that list. Cobb is the best ballplayer I ever saw. I will never admit that

baseball has seen his equal and I doubt if it does again within the experience of those now living. There are great ball players and then there is Ty Cobb." (Baseball Magazine, Feb., 1917, pp. 16, "The Oldest Player", pp. 15-16)1954 - By 1954, however, he had switched to Lajoie as best ever. "He still speaks of Napoleon Lajoie, his personal "greatest of the great," with the unaffected idolatry of a bat boy looking up at Babe Ruth. . . . We used to call Ty 'The Reb" and I was one of his warmest admirers. I won't say, however, that some of the boys, including Jimmy McAleer, felt the same. "Cobb's greatness? Well, with Ty baseball was more than a mental and physical test. It was an affair of the spirit and in the early days, when the Georgia Peach was burning up the league, so intense was his desire to win that in the heat of battle there were times, I believe, when he would have laid down his life for victory." It is the seeming lack of this all-out spirit in modern

1953 - "The Babe always fooled a lot of pitchers by missing a certain pitch and then lambasting one in the same spot the very next time," Faber said. "I never came back with one in the same place or the same speed if he missed the first time."That's why it's not hard for me to say that Ty Cobb was tougher to pitch to. He could do anything with that bad, and he couldn't be fooled. But even Cobb didn't give me as much trouble as Jack Barry, a .250 hitter, or Stuffy McInnis. "

1961 - "I'll bet I pitched 5 games against Cobb as long as we were together in the league. You could fool him, but you couldn't keep him fooled. I had fair luck pitching to him. . . . You had to keep an eye on him. . . I could strike him out, but hewas the greatest I ever pitched to; pitching to Babe Ruth was a cinch compared to pitching to Cobb. No one ever played harder than Cobb. He'd beat you himself after others had given up. He wasn't particularly popularwith the players. His aggressiveness was the reason for that. He was no angel to play against." (New York Times, July 17, 1961) (Subsequent research has shown that from 1914 - 28, Ty Cobb went 55 for 164 against Red Faber for a career .335 BA. Ty Cobb

"You can't take it away from him, though," Leifield said, "He was the greatest." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July, 1961, 'Greatest,' Says Leifield Of Cobb; Pruett recalls fanning Ty on 3 Pitches; by William J. McGoogan)

1917 - "To my mind Cobb's chief greatness lies not in fielding or even batting with all his wonderful record. I think his most conspicuous talent is his base running. This is never given the credit it deserves. You can learn nothing by saying thatCobb stole sixty bases and somebody else stole fifty. Cobb not only steals bases, he breaks up games by stealing bases. He smashes the defense of a club, gets the fielders up in the air and completely demoralizes the opposition. As a base runner he is

1963 - To Editor of The Sporting News: I am following with interest your stories on Ty Cobb. He used to visit me occasionally and was always friendly with me. . . He must have suffered intense pain near the end. Under these conditions we should not betoo critical of his actions during the last months of his life. I prefer to remember him as a great ball player and a fierce competitor, and later as a mellowed, friendly man. Harry Hooper, Capitola, Calif. (Sp. News, January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 3)1966 - Later, in a mid-60's interview with author Lawrence Ritter, Hooper had this to say in The Glory of their Times, 1966, pp. 131," That Willie Mays, he's one of the greatest center fielders who ever lived. You can go back as far as you want and nameall the great ones -- Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush, Max Carey, Earle Combs, Joe DiMaggio. I don't care who you name, Mays is just as good, maybe better. He's a throwback to the old days. A guy who can do everything, and plays like he loves it. 1920 - "Babe Ruth has hit me for one home run only. . . I think that Ruth has a weakness for the simple reason that I think every batter has a weakness. But I am frank to confess I don't know what it is. Ruth is an awful slugger. There is nobody likehim. But I have an automobile business in Augusta, Ga., about four blocks from where Ty Cobb hangs out, and if any one wants to tell me that a greater player than Cobb ever lived, he will have to start talking now and keep on until he has me hypnotized.

1975 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer that ever lived, in my estimation. And I think any old ballplayer that played in those years would tell you the same thing. I don't think there's anybody that ever saw Cobb play in his heyday who wouldn't say, without a doubt: Cobb. If there'd been a higher league, he'd have been the only one in it. …I wouldn't say Cobb played dirty. Cobb always told me and other fellows he played against, "All you've got to do is give me room to get in there and it'll be

all right, but if you don't give me room, I'll cut my way in." Fair enough. He had no weaknesses….He just had it. Cobb never had very many friends, but he was a very good friend of mine…Ruth?…But he wasn't just a great pitcher and a great hitter, he wasa great outfielder. His throws were very accurate and he made long throws. He was a good ballplayer. Great ballplayer….I played against Wagner a lot, too. We had quite a few little exhibition games, because they had their training camp at Hot Springs,Ark., in the same place as the Red Ox did, for years and years. They had their park and we had our park. I never had much trouble with old Honus, though I got him in his later years, when he had seen his best days. He used to stand away back in the

1912 - "I am not alone in this high opinion of Ty Cobb's work. This view of min, I believe, is shard by practically every other member of the National League. . . Cobb's marvelous showing as a batter is alone enough to insure his reputation for alltime. Add to this, however, his uncanny ability as a base runner--an ability in which he stands unequaled, his record-breaking feats as a run getter, his all-around brilliancy as a fielder, his quickness, dash and execution of daring feats almost

instantaneously, and they place him a little above and beyond the rank of any other player in the game to-day. But whether he improves or not in the next few seasons which are left him for active play, his career up to date clearly entitles him to thehonor of being considered the greatest player in the world of baseball. I believe no fair-minded critic will deny this statement. . . . but all sections and all cities, whether or not they agree on any other single topic in baseball, all agree in giving Cobb credit for standing without a peer. He is the universal comparison of the highest ability. It is the greatest praise which can be given a coming star to say that he is a second Ty Cobb. Cobb is the model, the perfect stamp of the truly great ball

player. But when all allowance has been made for the changes in the National game, and the different style of play, I am confident that Cobb would be almost universally considered unrivaled in past or present. I know it may seem like exaggeratedpraise from a player of another club and league. I believe that the vast majority of players, critics and fans will agree that Cobb is the wizard of the diamond, whose like the game has never seen. But whether they do agree or not, my own opinion isfixed. and that opinion, briefly stated, is that Ty Cobb of the Detroit Tigers is the greatest player baseball has ever known. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 13, "Ty Cob, from the Point of View of a National Leaguerby John J. Evers)1916 - John Evers is the smartest player in the National League, bar none. Let us hear what the inimitable John has to say: "I have seen considerable baseball in my time, and some people might think I would get tired of it. But I would pay my littledollar any time and sit in the grand stand or the bleachers, or anywhere else, for a chance to see Cobb play. There's only one Cobb, and there's nobody like him. There never was, and there never will be, in my opinion. That's what I think of Ty Cobb.Cobb would put the punch in any team. But with two redoubtable associates who uphold his right hand and his left, he makes of the Detroit trio a thing incomparable, supreme, by a wide margin the greatest outfield in the land."

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1920 - The principal difference, as I see it, is that the National League leads by a mile in pitchers and the American leads by the same distance in outfielders. Cobb is still king and a mighty fine fellow. My friendship for him dates back to theDetroit-Cub World's Series and right there I want to spike an old and musty rumor. Lots of people claim Cobb didn't play much of a game against us in those world's series. I will go on record as saying that he played a whale of a game, but he had mightystiff opposition. We were all laying for him, and when a team like the Cubs lays for a certain player that player has his work cut out for him. In the wrestling match between the whole Cub team and Cobb the odds were a little too long on the team and

against the individual. But Cobb surprised us all by his gameness and nerve, and he was a good loser. I expected to find him a little swell-headed - I would have forgiven him for being so, for he had a right to be if any player ever had - but he wasn'tanything of the sort. He proved himself to be not only a wonderful player but a good loser, and that's something more." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1920, pp. 526, column 3, "On the Outside, Looking In", from interview with John Evers, pp. 525-526).

1984 - "He was the greatest ballplayer I ever played with or against. Of course you couldn't compare he and Babe Ruth because they were different types of ballplayers. Ty was a great player, anyone who could hit over .360 for a whole career, that's

1942 - "You never knew what he was going to do next." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

good as he is he would beat me out, for he has much more experience than I have, so these fake claims are ridiculous. . . . "Why shouldn't I become a great player if I am lucky? That is my ambition; I admit it and I will try as hard as I can to equal Ty Cobb or anyone else. But I know that I have a long way to go first, and, of course, I may never realize my ambition." (Los Angeles Times, April 18, 1916, pp. III4, "BENNIE KAUFF TELLS HIS OWN STORY OF "HOLDOUT."1922 - "Nick disagrees with his famous co-worker, Ed Walsh, that Nap Lajoie was the greatest batsman of his time. Nick is inclined to hand the palm to Ty Cobb. "It made no difference where I put the ball, Ty Cobb would kill it. When he failed to get

three or four hits off me I figured I was pitching invincible ball. Larry, the records will show, was not tough for me to handle. Of course he smacked my delivery hard at times, but as a general proposition I think I had it on him."(Sp. News, Jan. 7,1922)1942 - "His never-say-die spirit and his nerve predominated." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1918 - "Mind, I am not criticising Cobb in any way. Cobb's batting is phenomenal, and as a base runner he has no known equal. And he may have all the baseball brains in the world. In fact, I am inclined to believe he has. But his batting and his

1926 - "Take the case of Ty Cobb as a good illustration. Ty was fast. That was always a thing in his favor. He could never have become what he has become If it were not for his speed. But there have been other players who were fast, as fast asCobb, but they didn't develop into Cobbs. What happened in Ty's case was this. He had uncommon natural gifts. Make no mistake on that point. But he also had the ambition to do a little better than the next fellow. And that ambition, in his case, has been the driving force which has urged him on full speed for more than twenty years and gained for him a player reputation which has not been matched. That secret force, in my opinion, is the true explanation of Cobb's great work. It was the real

reason why he grew better as he went along. Good as he was, he wasn't satisfied to stand still. He was always trying to improve, to do better work than he had ever done before." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1926, pp. 208, How Psychology May Make or break )

1928 - "Why is Ty Cobb called the greatest player who ever lived? There are a number of answers. His grand batting average is better than that of any other player. He hit over .300 for twenty-two years, a record. He made over four thousand hits. These and similar items of statistics come readily to any fan who is discussing the game's best. But such figures are plain dope. Was Cobb a better hitter than Joe Jackson? He himself has admitted that Rogers Hornsby was the greatest hitter he ever saw.Was Cobb a better player, say, than Tris Speaker? What is the foundation of Cobb's great reputation? It's the dope. I'm not offering any criticism of dope. I understand too well the value of dope to the ball player. It's really his stock in trade,

1927 - "When a reporter interrupted to ask whether Cobb had got any of the money, Risberg replied that he doubted it, adding, "There never was a better or straighter baseball player than Cobb, or Speaker, either, to my way of thinking."

1942 - "Cobb's base-running and all-round ability match Ruth's slugging." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1942 - "He was good in the pinch. He could do everything but throw." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

1942 - "He was quick on the trigger and ten jumps ahead of you." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1984 - "Cobb was a phenomenal ballplayer. . .A tough competitor is right. . . . He was just a magician, that's what he was , and he played on your nerves, too. (Forgotten Fields by Paul Green, 1984, pp. 96)1942 - "He was a combination of everything." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1974 - "I saw quite a bit of Cobb. I'd say he was probably the greatest all-around batter. He could hit the ball anywhere he wanted to, and he'd hit it wherever you pitched it. And he had so many gimmicks. In the spring he'd wear a long-sleeveshirt down to his wrists, and if you pitched a ball inside to him, he'd contrive to have it hit that baggy sleeve and he'd get on first base. In a close ball game I tried to keep it away from him, not give him a chance to do that to me, because he was a streak on those bases. He could upset a whole ball club. . .I try to keep up with baseball today as much as I can. I watch it on television, and I read The Sporting News. Sure I still read The Sporting News. . .about 1914 or so. And I haven't missed

1984 - "Sure he would, he'd use everything. He was the best at hitting the ball where he wanted to hit it. He was a kind of different man after he got out of baseball. He never did have many friends, but when he got out actively he had a good many friends. I don't think you should hold being aggressive against a fellow, I think you ought to give him a big hand. A lot of them you'd like to give a boot and tell them to get a little more aggressive. Paul Green: It's strange, I know Joe Wood really liked him. Ted Lyons: I did too. Paul Green: But to read the stories you'd assume he didn't have a friend in the world. Ted Lyons: Well, he was a different man when he'd put the suit on. He was like Johnny Evers, when he put that uniform on he was a

1985 - "When Cobb was through as a player, he was a wonderful guy to visit with. I remember coming back from a trip to Japan with Moe Berg and Lefty O'Doul. Cobb was waiting to meet somebody, and said, "Let's talk baseball.' And so we did, for 30

"These claims that I would beat out Ty Cobb are bunk. I have been quoted as saying so a good many times. But I am willing to admit that Ty Cob is the greatest player on the diamond by a long shot. Even if I was as

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minutes. When he had the uniform on, he was like Johnny Evers, who was a maniac on the field. You hear a lot about Cobb being like that, but Evers was even worse." (Baseball Digest, August, 1985, Hostile Side of Ty Cobb Still Lingers in Memory by John

1931 - "Ty Cobb was always my model of a ballplayer. He played the outfield. I think he was the greatest ballplayer who ever lived, far ahead of the Babe Ruths and the Lou Gehrigs and all the others. But what made him a great ballplayer? "Speed, you say. That was part of it. But other players have been as fast. Ability to hit never carried him there. Other players were better natural hitters. And you can make up a pretty long list of better fielders. But when you've got through, you'll find

only one Cobb. And the thing that made him great, that explained his success, was a belly full of guts. Cobb was a born fighter. He fought opposing pitchers, and infielders and coaches. He fought his own teammates. He fought everybody and he madegood. That's what the public admires, a fighter. I may not have used good horse sense in some of my actions since I put on a baseball uniform. But at least I've tried to show that I wasn't weak in the midrif. I prefer to have people criticize my head

1913 - "Cobb is the greatest player in the history of the game--the perfect ball player. Other men have been great fielders, great batters, great base runners. Sometimes a great fielder has been a great batter as well, or a great base runner, or agreat base runner has been a great batter, but Cobb is all of these things. He can do everything as well as anybody ever did anything in the history of the game. Cobb brings out the crowds. I suppose he boosts the attendance figures by 5,000 at least.The old fans want to compare him with the old players, and the new fans can't keep their eyes off him. Cobb has quickened the game--no doubt about that. They are all playing faster since he came."

1950 - "Ty Cob was the greatest player during the first half of the century, according to Manager Burt Shotton of the Dodgers, who disagrees with the sportswriters, who gave the honor to Babe Ruth. I saw them both in their prime," explained Shotton, "and while Ruth may be the sentimental favorite, nobody comes close to Cobb in my book. Cobb couldn't hit home runs like Ruth and the Babe won a lot of games, with his blows, but nobody won as many games, all by himself, as Cobb did. . . . Yes, there was

1950 - "Why don't they ask those who saw both Ruth and Cobb in their prime which is the better player?" Shotton wanted to know. "Why don't they ask me? I played against both," he went on, "and to me there was none that ever came close to Cobb. Anybody who played against him would tell you there never was a player like Cobb. , , ,I bet Cobb could beat you more times than Ruth and in more ways," he said, "There wasn't a thing that Ty couldn't do. He hit over .400 three times. He once stole 96bases in a season. He collected over 4,000 hits and scored more than 2,000 runs. Sure, Ruth was a great home run hitter," Shotton conceded, "but they had to change the game for him. They made over the ball. They even built a ball park to suit him."Shotton said he always got along well with Cobb, despite Ty's fiery reputation. "I just never spoke to him," Burt grinned. "Cobb wasn't the fastest runner, but he led the league in stolen bases nearly every year. He wasn't the most powerful hitter, buthe led the league in home runs once and in total bases many times. He wasn't the greatest outfielder, but he had more assists than anybody else. And tell me who was nervier, who took more chances, and who took better advantage of an enemy slip?Yes, son, there was nobody like Cobb. And there will never be anybody like him." (Dallas, Texas, April 6, (AP)1950) This sidebar appeared soon after the Associated Press poll, in which the sports writers voted Ruth 1, Cobb 2. Most never saw either play.

1962 - "Ty came into my restaurant for several years before he passed away and I could see what kind of a man he was when not in uniform. A wonderful and kind guy. I believe anything written about him being a bad individual was due to the fact that asa ball player, he was a great competitor and therefore he made enemies because he would beat you by outsmarting you at the bat and especially on the bases. He was fiery and mean when playing and that meant from the time he walked on the field until the game was over. He attracted so much attention from the ball players and the fans that they picked on him for the least little flaw they could find, whether it was personal or in his playing. He was the only player I ever knew who dominated a game fromthe start to the finish. He wanted to be the best on and off the field and by being that way he made enemies on the way through life. . . . There were some great ball players in his time and some great ones since, but in my book he was the greatest and

1966 - "All in all, I have been a part of baseball for 55 years. I've seen the greatest and played with and against the greatest. None could come close to comparing with Ty Cobb. He was the smartest and most daring in addition to having unequaledability as a hitter and baserunner. With Cobb it was not only what he did but how he did it. He is the only ballplayer I ever saw who dominated a game as soon as he walked on the field. No one reacted to a challenge with more zest, intensity, andeffectiveness than Cobb. . . It's too bad that the present generation never had the chance to see him play as I did as a fan, pitcher and coach. . .Cobb had it all. I agree that Wagner was great. But the greatest ballplayer ever to step on a diamond was

1944 - "He was the No. 1 ball player of his time, and still is No. 1 in my book. . . . I can't rate the Babe over Ty. Ruth could hit home runs, but Cobb was superlative, doing anything else on a ball field. And that man Lajoie was the greatest machine

1967 - "You and I and everyone else who saw him play know he was the greatest. He was daring, alert and had tremendous reflexes," said Joe. (Sporting News, January 28, 1967, pp. 23, column 3)

1961 - "Nap Rucker, former major league mound star, discussing ball players of the past and present, recently said: "Fellows like Ty Cobb, Hans Wagner and Joe Jackson were just as great as reports said they were. They had to be great to do with the

ball what they did. Cobb was the greatest of them all. I never saw another man with the determination he had. That's what made him --determination. I could outrun him on a straight-away and he wasn't a natural hitter.

1916 - "Billy Hamilton was a wonderful baserunner," says Callahan. "there is no mistake about that. But if he had played last year and stole 96 bases, as Cobb did, I would say he had beaten his old mark of 156 so far as real merit is concerned. I

remember on the old Phillies the rule used to be with Hamilton at the plate. 'Don't hit until he's stolen third.' How far would such a rule go nowadays. It wasn't so difficult then as now to steal a base for various reasons. On the other hand, if the Tigers had built their system of attack around Cobb's speed he would have stolen quite a few beyond the hundred mark last year. The two records are not to be compared because they were made under entirely different conditions Furthermore, Hamilton was

"Bill Lange was a better fielder than Ty Cobb. And he was one grand ball player. But when you compare him with Ty Cobb, in my mind, you are committing a bad bone. They don't compare that's all. You could go into a grand stand wherever the Tigers are playing and you wouldn't have to know any of the players or the batting order. But after you had seen a game you would be able to pick Cobb out from the other Tigers solely on his remarkable personality. If he had a medium day at the bat oron the base paths you would know who Cobb was all right, for you would see him accomplish things that other players don't accomplish, that's all. In my opinion Cobb is the greatest player who has ever lived by a considerable margin. . . . I have seen

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many outfielders, past and present, and to my mind Tris speaker is the greatest player at the position I have ever met." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1916, pp. 53, "Callahan, the Cast Off Manager", by John J. Ward, pp. 53-58)

Ty was eulogized as "the greatest player who ever lived," by Ban Johnson, Connie Mack, Billy Evans, Frank J. Navin, Jimmy Callahan, Mayor John W. Smith, Arthur (Bugs) Baer. (Reach AL Guide, Feb.,1926, pp. 44)1932 - "I shall always treasure the friendship of Ty Cobb. Hailed as the greatest player of his time. . . "Cobb was, without doubt, the most versatile batter the game has ever know. . . Two experiences with Cobb I shall always remember. Once, when in

the throes of a terrible batting slump , I asked him to give me a few pointers. He was very sympathetic, and although he was the manager of the Tigers at the time, he took great pains to coach me in a better batting stance. When I connected for two hits

1966 - Who's the best player he's ever seen? "I believe Babe Ruth had the most natural ability of anyone, by far. But Cobb made himself a better player than Ruth because of his intense determination, concentration and practice.

1985 - "He could do things with a bat that nobody could do, including Rose, and that's a cinch. People thought he was nasty, but the way I saw it, Cobb just wanted to win. He was very proud and intense, the same as Rose. Cobb felt the base lines werehis, so if you got spiked, it was your fault because you were in his way." Despite Wamby's respect for Cobb, the first player he'd pick on his all-time team would be Babe Ruth. "Cobb would be second and Tris Speaker or Joe Jackson would be third. Rose

? - Wamby admits "Cobb was the toughest man to tag I ever played against. His feet always came flying at you and the only way to get him and not get cut up was to touch some part of his body other than his legs." This didn't prevent Wamby from

Cobb and Perkins became fast friends in later years. Ty took a fancy to the young, slim, quiet catcher--made him a companion. They dined together, chinned together around the batting cage. One day, Lefty Grove was throwing in batting practice for the Athletics. "You think Ruth is a great home run hitter, don't you?" asked Cobb, then nearing the end of his career. Perkins nodded. "The greatest I ever saw," he replied. Cobb picked out a bat. "Watch me," he said as he stepped to the plate. He hitGrove's first pitch over the right field wall, his second into Twentieth st., his third onto the rooftops, and his fourth bouncing into the streets beyond the roofs. Ty turned around grinning, then shook his head.

1965 - "I guess when you talk about the greatest baseball player who ever lived it has to be either the Babe, Ty Cobb, or Honus Wagner. I didn't see much of Wagner, 'cause he was in the National League, but I played for years against both Cobb and Ruth,

and I'd hate to have to choose between them. Golly, both of those guys could beat you in so many ways it wasn't funny. Ty could get real nasty on the field, you know, Off the field, though, he was a pretty good guy. . . . Ty was fair enough on the bases, though. He nicked me a couple of times, but it was my fault. I don't blame him. . . . When Cobb was out there on that ball field, look out. He wasn't anybody's friend then. He was out to win, regardless. But I got along with him all right off

"In my book, there were two great ballplayers, Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb. They were the two greatest of all-time. Ruth had color. Cobb was spectacular. Everything he did was spectacular. . . When I played for the A's, Connie Mack always had pre-gamemeetings. He would get up and say, 'Today, we're playing Ty Cobb.' He would never say, 'The Detroit Tigers,' it was always 'Ty Cobb.' . . In Witt's last year with the Yankees, the club had a rookie first baseman named Lou Gehrig. Whitney has vivid memories of the young slugger. "To me, he was more valuable to the ball club than Ruth because he was very consistent," Witt says. "He never struck out, and he could drive in runs. He always got the bat on the ball. Whitey Witt was obviously confused in his opinions. While saying Ruth & Cobb were the two greatest ever, he says he felt Gehrig was more valuable to the team than Ruth. And in the '80's he leaves Cobb off his all-time team. 1923 - "I should like to have pitched in the American League when Ty was in his prime. He would have given me something to think about, But that's what I like. He was a great player in every way, and it will be a long time before they discoveranother Ty, and I don't say that because he comes from my home state, Georgia, either. Babe Ruth is one of the best ball players I ever saw, and by that I don't mean just a good slugger. Babe's a real ball player. He has the best throwing arm in any outfield barring none. Bob Meusel may have naturally a better arm, but not much. Anyway, Babe uses his arm to better advantage. And he plays the pitchers pretty well too. And he throws to the right base. Babe looks lumbering and slow, but he isn't.

He's pretty fast and he knows how to run bases. If he had more speed he would be a great base runner. With all my respect for Babe Ruth's ability as a hitter, I consider Hornsby his superior. You can fool Babe some times and make him look foolish, butyou can't fool Hornsby on anything. Hornsby isn't so apt to hit a homer as Ruth, for that isn't his style. But he's even more apt to come through with a single or a double. Ruth chops up and lofts the ball. Hornsby hits it smack on the nose anddrives it on a line. With the possible exception of Hans Wagner, Hornsby is the greatest batter I ever looked at and he's a great fielder, but he's not a great base stealer. He's fast, one of the fastest men in baseball and he can tear around the bases

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?

The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

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(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "I was only a kid when I came up with the White Sox, and here is what I heard at one of the first players' meetings I ever attended: Leave the Georgia Peach alone. Don't ride him or he'll beat you single-handed." And maybe you don't think thathe couldn't!" (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1931 - Bill McKechnie, manager of the Braves, strung along with McGraw on Wagner as the greatest of them all. McKechnie, one-time Pirate infielder, piloted Pittsburgh to a pennant in 1925 and won another gonfalon for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1922.Oddly enough, neither club retained him for long after his success. "I don't see how a National Leaguer could pick any one but old Honus Wagner as the best that ever lived," said McKechnie. . ."I played in the infield with him for six or seven years and

will pay him the splendid tribute of saying I never saw him make a mental error. He made "boots," of course. Every ball player makes fielding errors. But Honus always threw to the right base: he always did the correct thing at the proper moments. As to physical ability, he was a marvelous fielder, the hardest-hitting shortstop in history and a splendid baserunner. . . "Cobb gets second place. really, I think those two stand by themselves for this century, at least. speaker didn't have theSpeaker didn't have the natural speed of Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on fly ballsof Cobb, so I must place him third. I give Lajoie fourth. Of the present-day ball players I consider Hornsby and Ruth the best I've seen. Hornsby has many great qualities, but he is surprisingly weak on that are too close to the infield for outfielders to get. I have been astonished at Hornsby's inability to overcome this weakness during his many years in the majors. It is hard to choose between Hornsby and Ruth, but I'll give it to Hornsby."

1942 - "He could do everything a little better than the rest of the herd. He had color and the will to win. And he would chase half of the present-day players out of the park with his spikes today. He could dish it out and he could take it." (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1964 - "Cobb. He did everything. . . He drove infielders crazy. They never knew what the hell he was going to do. And neither did he till that last split second. You couldn't try to figure Cobb. It was impossible. Cobb could hit the long ball. I

about that. He roomed alone. He didn't care about whether they liked him or not. They made it pretty tough on him his first year up there, and he showed them. They may not liked him but they admired him. (Must have been an amazing ballplayer.)Well, wasn't any like him. He's alone. ( Interviewed by Lawrence Ritter, August 26, 1964, for the book, The Glory of Their Times, by Lawrence Ritter, 1966, pp. 166-167.) This transcript is taken from the audio tapes of those interviews.)1961 - "I believe Cobb is the all-time great. Excellence in baseball cannot be explained by mechanics or mathematics, as managers and broadcasters do today. It is reaction, and Cobb had the fastest reflexes of any human being I ever encountered.

1934 - Tyrus Raymond subsequently was acclaimed by Old Roman Comiskey and Adrian C. Anson as greatest players of all time. (Sporting News, January 11, 1934, pp. 6, column 5-6, "Daguerreotypes")1953 - Declaring he was feeling fine and also "lucky" to reach such an age, Lanigan recalled that both Cap Anson and Charley (Old Roman)Comiskey had selected Cobb years ago as the game's brightest star(Sporting News, January 14, 1953, pp. 7, column 4 & 5)1969 - "While DiMaggio would not name a full All-Time team, he did single out certain players. He picked Charlie Gehringer who played for Detroit, as his second baseman; Pie Traynor, Pittsburgh, third base, and Honus Wagner, Pittsburgh, at shortstop.

DiMaggio said it was "just too much" when he looked at the outfielder list but he did murmur in an aside: "Ty Cobb has to be on any All-Time team, and he has to get a shot as the greatest player ever. . . "I guess," said DiMaggio, "That I'd have to goalong with Lefty Grove as the best southpaw and Walter Johnson as the best right-hander. But I don't envy anybody the job of picking the greatest player." How about Joe DiMaggio? he was asked. "You're too kind", said Oakland coach.

1986 - In 1986, Eugene V. McCaffrey & Roger A. McCaffrey published "Players Choice". This great book asks many great questions. Luke answers 3 of them thusly: Best base stealer of all Time: Ty Cobb; Hitter you found hardest to get out: Ty Cobb;

1931 - Gabby Street, one-time battery mate of Walter Johnson at Washington and now manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, 1930 champions of the National League, was the fifth man to name Cobb for first honors. "I spent seven years in theAmerican League and two in the National and Cobb is my pick, without question," he said. "Cobb had a ninety-horsepower brain, which, in my opinion, was his greatest asset. He always thought a fraction of a second faster than any one else and, therefore,

was always ahead of the game. Modern fans who saw him only in the closing days of his career can't appreciate him. "I'll give old Honus second place and Eddie Collins third. Freddy Parent, Boston Red Sox infielder,

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why? 1931 - "All right then. If that's the way you feel about it, go ahead and name Ty Cobb as the best of them all," replied Uncle Robbie. "I didn't see him play much because he was in the other league, butfrom what I did see and from what I've heard from others who do know ball players when they see them, Cobb deserves first place. Put Willie Keeler in there next to Ty. Willie was a great all-round ball player and the best place hitter the game ever knew."

. He dominated the game. I never saw a fella like that. (He wasn't too well liked, was he?) No! But he didn't care

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(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1942 - "He could do everything asked of a ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

? - "Steve O'Neil, George Uhle and Will Wamby, all members of the 1920 world champion Cleveland Indians--and therefore opponents of Cobb--still speak with a sort of reverence about the Georgia Peach. "Oh, he was a great one", said O'Neil, the tribecatcher. "He was the toughest man a catcher ever had to work behind. When he was up there you worried about the bunt. When he was on base you worried about him stealing. He worried me more than any other runner I ever played against." O'Neil admits. Cobb "stole a few bases on me, and I got him a few times, but he was tough to nail. He was fast and got a good jump and he always came in spikes high. Our infielders didn't want any part of those spikes and they gave him too much of the base. Ty could dish it out, but he could take it, too. Once he came home on a base hit and I was blocking the plate. I got him in the kidneys and knocked him out. When he came to he didn't say a word. He just got up and limped out to his position in center."1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1944 - "You never saw Johnson at his best unless you watched him pitching to Ty Cobb. There was really a contest, the greatest hitter in the business against the greatest pitcher. Johnson had all the best of it, too. but Cobb never would admit it."

1962 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that.

1926 - Our talk had rambled, then I thought, wonder who he considers the greatest ball player of all time. "Ty Cobb," was the instantaneous reply to my question, "There is only one Ty Cobb, and there will never be but one. I take my hat off to him." Baseball's greatest catcher had paid a noble tribute to baseball's greatest player. "And," he went on, "I think that Walter Johnson is the greatest pitcher, and Eddie Collins the smartest man in the game. Get those three on a team, and it'll be a `wow'.

1964 - "For all-around, I've got to choose Cobb," said Ray Schalk, long-time star catcher of the Chicago White Sox. "Speaker, Felsch, Mostil, Rice and DiMaggio were great, but the greatest of them all in all departments has got to be Ty, in my book."

1969 - "Ray Schalk agreed with Frisch. I can't pick between them," the all time catcher said. "I admired them both and each was my friend. Ruth put me on his all-time team. I spent a lot of time with Cobb in later years. but I will say this: I caught behind them both and they made a better catcher of me. I had to work harder to get them out." (Baseball Digest, November, 1969, pp. 20-24, by Ed Rumill of the Christian Science Monitor, Hall of Famers Pay Tribute to the Mighty Babe)

1931 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblycould help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is the

1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

1924 - "By the way, Ty Cobb is out with the statement that he will quit active work after this year and confine himself to bench managing, if "he can find a man to take this place in the Detroit outfield." This qualification is super-important, as itis decisive, because Detroit never will find another man to take the place of the game's greatest player in all departments of play. Cobb is now in his twentieth year of service with Detroit, and in batting, fielding and base running shows so littlerecession from his prime that he is out this season to beat Willie Keeler's long-standing major league record of 200 hits in a season for ten consecutive years, with easy chances of surpassing that record this year. Despite his long term of service wefeel confident that Cobb will be able to serve Detroit for two or three years more as player-extraordinary, as team management seems to have no adverse effect on his playing. If he can play three more years Cobb will surpass all players, ancient and

modern, in length of service, surpassing Captain Anson's 22-year record of much less strenuous playing; and Cobb will then be the greatest player the game has yet produced in all respects, not excluding length of service.

because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who, at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobb puts somethinginto his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived." (Spalding NL Baseball Guide, 30's)1938 - "For the right fielder of this all-time team there can be no other choice than Ty Cobb. All of us say "no other," but if Willie Keeler had been as much of a record-maker as Cobb was , it might be a closer race between them to patrol right fieldfor this mythical team. Cobb began to play professionally when quite a youngster and he kept on improving almost to the day that his knees, which play a very important part in a ball player's life, began to go back on him. During nearly all of theseyears he was with the Detroit club, part of the time as manager and captain. He led the American League in batting so many years that it became an old story to the general public, but never so to Cobb. His keenness to win the title always stayed with

-- St. Petersberg, Fla., Aug. 5. ---Ty Cobb's the greatest player, in Capt. Alvord's opinion, and Walter Johnson the greatest pitcher. (Washington Post, Aug. 9, 1925, pp. 25)

"Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do everything in baseball as well as he. Perhaps it's

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with him. Cobb's marvelous eyesight made him a great hitter, and, if we may go a step farther, a superhuman batter. He would not strike at a bad pitch unless he desired to for some strategically purpose. He could bat either low or high, and he cared not whether the ball was pitched to him fast or slow. Of course, he had a preference, and the pitchers were not slow in finding that out; but it seemed to make little difference in his batting. When he had to make a play on the ball he would connectwith it by bunting or slugging, or just by "plain hitting," and the pitcher had to suffer. He was released by Detroit and played during the last year of his base ball career with Philadelphia in the American League. When Cobb ceased playing he had made more than 4,000 hits. To tie that record a man must begin playing pretty early in life. Take him as he is and there has been no player like him. He is without doubt the right fielder of this team." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)

1938 - In that same article in the 1938 Spalding Baseball Guide, Foster says, "He (Buck Ewing) has been called the greatest all-round player ever connected with the game. I think that he was." (Spalding Official Base Ball Guide, 1938, spring)1936 - "Cobb turned in the biggest job that sport has ever seen. He comes close to being the greatest competitor that sport ever knew." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)1943 - "Ruth and Cobb or Cobb and Ruth are still the greatest two ball players the old game has ever known, and some may care to bring in Hans Wagner." (The History of Baseball, by Allison Danzig & Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 162)

1915 - After seeing them all come and go for nearly thirty years: after seeing the great ones and the little ones, those who starred for years and years, and those who passed early from the game, two figures of them all persist in forcing themselvesupon my memory, and in plain opposition to each other--the forms of Tyrus Cobb and William Lange. Somehow, some way, these two always present themselves before me for comparison, and, despite all the praise they lavish on the Georgian today, I cannot seewhere the gigantic Lange was his inferior! Lest I seem biased in my love for old-time pals, I'll instantly add this: That I cannot see where Cobb is the inferior of Lange. If ever two men, of strangely different physical and temperamental types, were

Were Lange a youthful player of today, he'd be Cobb's greatest rival. Had Cobb played in the time of Lange, he'd have been big Bill's closest competitor. If Lange possessed the eel-like agility of Cobb, there would have been no chance to stop him. If Cobb

On the defensive, there was, to my way of thinking, no choice, between Lange and Cobb. Both could cover enormous outfield territories: both were marvelously sure when they got their hands upon the ball. I think Lange had

the better throwing arm of the two. Moreover, Lange, originally a catcher by trade, could be brought in from the gardens and used anywhere in case of need, and played all the infield places capably for Chicago at one time or another.

Lange had no foul-strikes to handicap him, but in his day a caught foul tip was an immediate out. Then, too, he faced great pitchers, who during at least part of his career, worked from a shorter distance, and there were no "sacrifice

It was on the bases, though--in the wondrous way that both circled round the cushions--that the strange likeness between Lange and Cobb is most strongly demonstrated. It is said that Cobb does a lot of daring things, all his own invention, never tried by any other player. I distinctly remember many of Cobb's tricks as exact duplicates of Lange's --tricks forgotten when Bill left the game, and revived long afterward by the Georgian. Nor do I call Cobb a copy-cat: he never sawLange play ball, and his tricks are simply those that naturally found new roots in the mind of a thinker and great base runner. Lange stretched his hits just as Cobb does now. Lange was lightnig quick to rush for an adjoining base on the slightest fumble or lack of watchfulness--just as Cobb is today. The smallest slowness of slovenliness in the throw-in, the pickup of the throw-in, or the guarding of bases, meant the sudden arrival of Lange at the next

station--as is the case with Cobb when the smallest opening is given. In straightaway steals, both Lange and Cobb were marvels at getting away, or getting the jump on the pitchers's delivery. For a heavy man, Lange had terrific

to the instant of arriving at the base, Lange's immense size used to scare the infielders out of his way. He never spiked any one, because he didn't have to --they broke for cover when his 230 pounds bore down upon them. Cobb makes up for lack of weight by the wicked impetus of his slide and the dangerous onrush of his spikes. Lange stole a few more bases, both on the season and in proportion to number of games and chances offered. But in those days they were accustomed to let a runner steal or fail,

1920 - "Tyrus Cobb ranks as king of all batsmen in more ways than one--and one way is in consistency." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1920, pp. 384, "The Season's First Month in Review", by Bill Phelon, pp. 381-384)1936 - "For what he accomplished as a hitter, to set records for practically everything except home runs, and as a thrill-producing base runner, Ty Cobb often has been proclaimed as the greatest ball player of all times. For nearly a quarter of acentury, Cobb stood far, far above the ranks of even the very best; temperamental, to be sure, but forever flashing his daring and unexpected bits of brilliant baseball, the like of which has never been matched." (Boston Globe, 1936, --

1922 - "Tyrus Cobb has been crowned the greatest player of all time, although he owns no world's championship emblem." (Baseball Magazine, Oct., 1922, pp. 490, "The Most Important Cog in the Baseball Machine, by Irving Sanborn, pp. 389-390, 518)1920's - Damon Runyon of the Hearst press called him "Tire-us, the Jewel of Jawjah" for his endurance. Runyon said a good many observers felt that, contrary to widespread opinion, Ruth did not overshadow him except in power hitting. Other writerscited the judgment of some American League players in contending that Cobb still possessed more offensive and defensive abilities than the glorified Babe. For one basic consideration, he struck out far less than Ruth, the chronic fanner. (Cobb by Alvin

1918 - "As an all-round player I think Cobb has it on them all. He is a player without a weakness, the greatest player I ever saw. If he could have starred in the old days before the foul strike rule went into effect, he would have torn things wide

1934 - "It was such a fire of positive baseball genius that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game has produced. . . . But not one of them could match Ty's bold and daring recklessness, his impatient, never satisfied, persistent fight to outstripall other players in the race for fame, to stand alone and unchallenged on top of the baseball world." (Baseball Magazine, April, 1934, pp. 497, A New Application For Top Notch Honors, by F.C. Lane, pp. 497-498)

1937 - "Take the brightest name of all in the baseball calendar, Ty Cobb. He was the first choice for the famous Hall of Fame, the player who had more votes for the highest honor than any other. Ty is generally recognized as the greatest of diamond

1981 - Hyannis - The names and dates come a little more slowly when you're 96, like Ferdinand Lane. But Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth are hard to forget - and Lane knew them both. . . "Ruth, he was big and strong and an awful hard hitter," Lane said. "No

doubt about that - he hit 'em hard into the seats. But Cobb was the best. . . he was a good runner, fast on his feet, a good man to make hits. I remember him well, he was a fighter, he was - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb."" Cobb's name rolled slowly off Lane's tongue. "We were at his home in Georgia," said Mrs. Lane. "He was a man who never let anyone walk over him." Mr. Lane said they never played favorites while her husband was editing Baseball Magazine, "never believed in it," but her husband winked that he thought the Yankees were probably his favorite team. Not long ago he debated with another of the residents at Whitehall Manor, a younger man who thought Ted Williams was the greatest player who ever lived. "Ty Cobb," insisted Lane.(Craig Little,1981)1938 - "However, I wanted the views of the one man I thought best qualified to answer the question. That was Connie Mack. . . In his half century of baseball, he has seen the entire parade of the game's great pass by. I heard Connie call Ty Cobb the game's greatest and with the passing of the years, he hasn't changed his mind. . . if anything, Connie is more insistent in awarding first place to the fiery Georgian. . . (Concerning Babe Ruth, Lieb continues), "Writers and fans have put him there, yet I still have to find a baseball man with the experience and background of such men as Mack, Barrow, the late John McGraw, the late Miller Huggins and McCarthy, who would go as to rate Ruth the greatest player of all time. they all concede Babe was the

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game's greatest showman, but for sheer playing greatness they place him behind Cobb and Wagner, some even place him behind Gehrig, Keeler and Speaker. While I consider Ty Cobb the game's greatest player, I am somewhat at a loss to understand why Ruth isnot given higher ranking. Was it that during a good part of Ruth's career he not only was the game's Home Run King, but also it's outstanding Play Boy?" (Sporting News, Jan. 27, 1938, pp. 3, column 5)1961 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the game's greatest all-time star and holder of the highest lifetime batting average - .367 for 24 seasons--died of cancer at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta,Ga., July 17: (New York Times, July 18, 1961)1970 - "But Fred, though "deep in my heart" regarding Cobb as the best player, was able to make a case for Ruth as the greatest complete player because of his great pitching ability, his fine arm, his running and fielding skill and the fact that he

1977 - "At least as late as 1930, Ty Cobb and Hans Wagner generally were regarded as the greatest players of all time. However, now that Ruth's contributions to baseball can be fully evaluated, Mr. Babe looms up as number one.""Shortly after Ruth's death in 1948, Taylor Spink, publisher of The Sporting News, asked me to take the Ruth side in a debate with Harry Salsinger of the Detroit News on the subject "Who was the greater--Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth?" As a matter offact, up to that time I myself had considered Cobb to be number one. In arguing for Ruth, I made my case on the larger meaning of the word "great." (Baseball As I Have Known It, by Fred Lieb, 1977, pp. 168)1962 - Probably no living writer was better acquainted with the real Ty Cobb than Ed Bang, former sports editor of the Cleveland News. Bang, now 82 and living in retirement in Cleveland, is a charter member of the Baseball Writers' Association of America,having been present when that organization was founded in 1908, and holds card No. 1 as the senior member of the BBWAA . . ."Here and now let me place myself on record after 54 years of big league baseball coverage. I have never seen anyone who could be rated a close second to Ty Cobb. I arrived at that judgment long before Cobb retired from baseball, and no player I have seen in the intervening years has caused me to waver even slightly from that position. The Georgia Peach, as he was known

1910 - "Here is the best man in the world at his game, without the shade of a doubt: the best of any time.". .. "spectators at baseball games do not like this player who gives them more for their hard-earned ticket than any man alive or dead gave them."

1933 - "When you rate the great outfielders of all time as individuals you must concede the three top places to Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker. Some may declare Cobb to have been the greatest ballplayer the game has developed. Some, may fight theverbal battle for Ruth, who has been not only a wondrous performer on the field but a record-breaking attraction at the box office. But the Babe and Ty split the two top ratings, and then comes Speaker. Behind Tris you may like to designate Joe Jackson.Or perhaps you favor Wee Willie Keeler, the hitting scientist and the defensive student. . . . . of the White Sox of 1919, who by many authorities are rated at least one of the first three clubs of baseball history."

1960 - "The Presentations were made by Dan Daniel, who called Ty the greatest player baseball yet has seen. The diners shouted their approval. (Sporting News, February 16, 1960, pp. 5, column 1)1961 - "Ty Cobb is dead, at 74, and now comes a revival of the old debate as to where the Georgia Peach belongs in the all time rating of baseball heroes. Much as I would like to give the top accolade to Babe Ruth, to whom I was much closer than I was to Cobb, in all fairness and honesty, I must rate Ty as the greatest player the game has seen. . . .Faster than the rest, nimble of mind, always audacious and aggressive, domineering and arrogant with the mark of the genius, fiery of temper, accurate

1959 - "They were, of course, Cobb, Speaker and Ruth, names that go together like other inseparable trinities, viz: Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, or Winken, Blinken and Nod. … Cobb was simply the greatest, most exciting baseball athlete of his timeor any other: Ruth was the dramatist with his home runs that were matchless for frequency and distance, and Speaker the complete artist with the glove, who could also hit." (Baseball Digest, March, 1959, pp. 42, 43)1961 - "This week's obituaries must fall short. . . Inevitably, there were the comparisons: Cobb or Ruth. . . Ruth's was the home run. Cobb's was the whole sweep of other baseball skills, his dominance in his sphere as unchallenged as Ruth's kingship

The Cobb man gave them a different show. He was electric, both at the plate and on the bases. . .As an individual, he could destroy a whole ball team. to Ruth, a single was only a single. For Cobb, it was merely the

start of a progressive tour around the bases with excitement at each point, whether he was stealing or scrambling for an extra base on somebody's hit, often his own. Cobb's approach to baseball was that of a clinicist. Thus it was that he once exploited the rookie catcher of the Athletics, Wally Schang, with the complaint, "Get back a step, your're bothering my swing." When Schang complied, Cob laid down a bunt. . .The 12 AMERICAN League batting championships Cob won, nine of them in a row, from 1907-15permit little debate that he was the greatest hitter than ever lived, even though his home run total is pale alongside Ruth's. But his nine home runs were enough to tie him for the league lead in 1909 and he was recoginized as a power man at least in his era. Of Cobb, it can always be said, there he stands, high against the baseball sky, perhaps as the longest-enduring baseball figure." (Washington Post, Wednesday, July 19, 1961, pp. B1, "This Morning. . . With Shirley Povich")1969 - " I did not know Cobb well when he was the greatest ballplayer in the history of the game with twelve batting championships, nine in a row, and a lifetime - lifetime, mind you - average of .367. Today if a player hits .367 for a week,

1924 - "Ty Cobb, whose amazing exploits throw into the shade all other records which have ever been made on the diamond." (Baseball Magazine, June, 1924, pp. 300, top, right blurb, "The Twenty-five Greatest Players" by W. B. Hanna)1926 - "Cobb is done with baseball. Laid down his bat which for 21 years had terrorized opponents and ceased to use the amazing brain and marvelous legs which drove opposing teams to madness 15 years ago. The greatest player of all time, by far the

It is almost incredible. I had entertained the hope that so long as I wanted to see baseball games I would have the exquisite pleasure of seeing now and then the great Cobb play. It has been my fortune to see the great John L. Sullivan, Jack McAuliffe,Tommy Ryan, Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson, Jack Johnson, box Tilden, the greatest of the tennis players of all time; Bobby Jones, the greatest and most attractive golfer of all time; Hagen, the great money player and professional star, but none of them gave

me such exquisite pleasure as the sight of Tyrus Raymond Cobb playing baseball. Of course, baseball is by far the greatest of the games. Tilden was, in his line, as great as Cobb was in baseball, but tennis in not baseball. No, not by a long shot. . .

"He was not rated as a great fielder, but he did get everything in the field that any other man could do--cover ground, go get them, sure hands, a good man on a ground ball and a good thrower. His style was not so graceful or facile as that of

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I can sit down quietly as in the past and talk to Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Bayard of Baseball, the ball player beyond fear and above cavil." (Sporting News, November 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 6)1911 - "In the American League Ty Cobb has not only succeeded in doing superb work in all departments but is playing faster ball than ever and never has done more work to win games for his club than this season. He is fairly in a class by himself,and top-notcher that he is, plays with the same reckless disregard of results as ever. A man of the speed of Ty is bound to cause trouble for someone, but it is sheer nonsense that he will consent to slow up for some player who fails to get out of the way. It is nothing if not dangerous to catch a man like Cobb when he is making for a base under full headway and any fielder who attempts to stop him does so at his own peril and need not wait for apologies from Ty if he comes to grief. Attempts galore

have been made to prove that Ty is a dirty ball player, and those who howl the loudest at him are the ones who would do the same for him were he a member of the team in the city for which they root. It all depends whose ox is gored.

1960 - "Cobb's thin right arm slid around Mantle's shoulder, drawing Mickey close to him. "I think you're wonderful," said the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. (NY Daily Sunday News, Sept. 18, 1960)1928 - "Many baseball men to this day regard Wagner as the greatest ball player that ever lived. His only rival in that respect is Ty Cobb. The records give Cobb a shade the better of it, but it is still a debatable subject. Wagner had one bigadvantage. He cold play the outfield as well as anybody and could play the infield better than anybody. The claim for Cobb's superiority is based on his speed, batting and aggressive spirit. Many hold that Wagner was superior as a straight-away hitter.That is very likely true, but the old Dutchman, as he was affectionately called, lacked the sparkling variety of Cobb's attack. . .There are mighty few laymen in this country who have so thorough a knowledge of paintings and great painters as Ty Cobb. . ."The baseman or catcher who blocks him does so at his own peril(Cobb quote)." There is a lot of truth in that. . . The catcher must take his own chances in blocking the path. If he is bowled over, that is his own lookout. Under the rules, he has no defense. . . Wagner himself was an aggressive base runner. Probably he has gone through as many clashes of spikes as the fleet-footed Cobb. There never was a base runner quite the equal of Cobb, though. The chances are there

never will be. Wagner, however, took the clashes of temperament and spikes as all a part of the day's work. His imagination stopped right there." (The Saturday Evening Post, Twenty-five Years In Sports, by Bozeman Bulger, May 26, 1928, pp. 37, 136)

1950 - "In any all-time rating of players, Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone. He was the greatest of the great, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist. . . He was a keener student of the game than his contemporaries and understood thegame better than they did. What is more, he understood them better than they understood themselves. . . . Baseball also has its lonely figure sitting on the Olympian heights. There is but one, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, and the game will never know his like again. While others have changed the destinies of peoples, the ways of living and the means of life. Cobb revolutionized and remade the sport of a nation. . . . Some men rate Wagner ahead of Cobb. Honus was undoubtedly the best infielder of all time. Agreat hitter and base-runner. He knew baseball, but never in the deep sense that Cobb did. He lacked the extra touch, the spark, the flame; there was no fire to Wagner's play: he was sound and thorough, but phlegmatic. Above all, he lacked imagination.He did not have Cobb's inventive mind. In his greatest moments Cobb was the very soul of baseball. Ruth had more batting power than any player before or since his day. He was the Goliath of the game, the Samson, but he was more than a great slugger. Hewas one of baseball's best left-handed pitchers before he concentrated on knocking the ball into the next county and when he quit pitching he developed into an outstanding outfielder. He was fast enough, had a fine pair of hands, was a sure judge of a flyball, played batters well, threw with speed and exceptional accuracy. He lacked Cobb's speed on the bases but ran with fine judgment. He never threw to the wrong base and almost never made a wrong play, and those are the standards by which ball players

judge their fellow players. Ruth pleased the eye, while Cobb pleased the mind and eye. Ruth lacked the speed, the quick break, the lightning-like thrusts of Cobb. He lacked his imagination. He was an entirely different type.

1955 - "Ty's Greatest Still Unrivaled After 50 Years - Brilliant and unorthodox, a fiery genius and the game's outstanding individualist, Ty Cobb made baseball history for more than two decades. He dominated the game. . . . His is the story of a mighty brain and the driving force of genius that made him great when other men, superior in physical strength and natural ability and speed, remained mediocre. (Sporting News, September 7, 1955, pp. 10, column 2)1916 - "He (Ring Lardner, Sr.) also took me to Comiskey Park to see Ty Cobb. We sat out in the center field bleachers so dad could keep up a running fire of conversation with Ty. My father was very eager for me to see Cobb, whom he rated the

1947 - "The feature of a brief, written reply by Wray listed sports personalities he considered most outstanding in 47 years of reporting - Ty Cobb in baseball, Man O'War in horse racing, Edward B. Cochems in football, Jack Dempsey in prize fighting

changing," writes Warren. "Some of you who have come in late, may have missed entirely what used to be an annual feature making its appearance at this time of year. That feature was the annual discovery of 'another Ty Cobb.' "We are not sure when the

practice of looking for or even announcing another Cobb was discontinued. Nor do we know why it was, save perhaps for the very obvious fact that there never has been and never will be another Cobb. "It may have been, of course, that the things that Babeto baseball and for attendances, baseball salaries and things in general, caused the drift away from Cobb. At least we have noticed that for a while, there was an occasional announcement that this rookie or that was another Babe Ruth. As we come downthrough the years, we hit upon another player who has been a bit of a sensation from law.That is Joe DiMaggio of the Yankees. Having established the type, the rush then began to find another Joe DiMaggio."(Sporting News, January 20, 1938, pp. 4, column 5)1926 - "It will not seem like the same old American League with Ty Cobb numbered among the missing, writes Henry P. Edwards in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. In fact it is difficult to believe that the famous Georgian, the most colorful player the AmericanLeague ever has known, will not go to bat around the circuit next season. Twenty-one years ago Cobb came up from the South to join the Detroit Tigers and it was he, more than any other one player, who is responsible for the construction of the greatbaseball plant at Navin field. Detroit was a poor baseball town until Cobb began to assert himself as the "world's best" and break records with unceasing regularity until most of the batting, base running and run getting marks became his. In fact hewas to baseball from 1906 to 1920 or so, what Babe Ruth is today-- the game's greatest drawing card. He revolutionized base running. Infielders hated to see him dashing down the plate, his 180 pounds skimming over the dirt and hurtling, spikesforemost, into the sacks. . . . But whatever may have been Cobb's shortcomings as a manager, there is no denying the fact the baseball world has known no greater player." ( The Sporting News, Nov. 11, 1926, pp. 4, column 3, Scribbled by A Scribe column)

1912 - "Now there's Cobb, for example. They say of Ty, and truly, that he is the greatest of living ball-players, if not the greatest that ever lived. He came up out of Georgia seven years ago, bringing with him a long bat, a pair of slim,flat-muscled legs, and a peppery disposition. To-day he is probably the most valuable bit of baseball property in existence. Pittsburgh paid twenty-two thousand five hundred dollars for Marty O'Toole, on speculation. How much do you suppose Cobb would bring, when his very name is a guarantee of the highest grade of efficiency? On the field Cobb is aggressive, argumentative, daring to the point of recklessness, always in the thick of the battle, fighting every minute to win. The popular idea of Cobb

is that he is a sort of thunderbolt in breeches; but put him in his street clothes, and he is the quietest man on the Detroit team. (Munsey's Magazine, July, 1912, pp. 528, Big Leaguers In the Spangles and Out, by Charles E. Van Loan)1948 - "The Georgia Peach stood so far above the others, it may be that no player will ever even approach him." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1948, pp. 349, column 1, "Evers Has Everything", by Ed Rumill, pp. 349-350, 354)1959 - "Of all the great athletes in which Pippen held close association throughout the Golden Era of Sports until his retirement in 1958, he pulled no punches in opining that Cobb was the greatest of them all. (Baltimore Sun, 1959)

1961 - "Though recognized as the greatest all-around player, Ty was just another private in the ranks when it came to taking orders from Connie Mack in the dugout."(Baseball Digest, 1961, pp. 67-72, "This was Ty Cobb, by Ed Pollock in the Phil. Bulletin)

Unquestionably the greatest three players in baseball history were Cobb, Wagner and Ruth and they can be rated in that order. I wonder how many of those who voted ever saw Cobb, Wagner or Mathewson in action. Or, how

- Baseball types are changing, Warren Brown, sports editor of the Chicago Herald and Examiner has found, and as a result, future recruits are no longer called Ty Cobbs. "We have noticed that our baseball standards are

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1953 - "He was Tyrus Raymond Cobb, possibly the best ball player who ever lived certainly the most dynamic" . . "the ballplayer who, to paraphrase General Forrest, was called "the bestest by the mostest." John McGraw called Honus Wagner the best, many

1964 - "Then there was Ty Cobb. The only Cobb, combative and controversial. His fiery spirit made him one of the great ones, perhaps the greatest. No one in this favored land who grew up believing that this mercurial man from Georgia was the bestballplayer of all time is likely to change his opinion now. Cobb set more records than any player who ever lived. Many of these have been broken in the 35 years that have passed since he retired. Some still stand. Some will always stand.

1953 - "Ty Cobb was "without question" the greatest player of all time and Fred Clarke was the No. 1 manager. Those were the definite opinions of Ernest J. Lanigan, historian of the Hall of Fame and Museum, who celebrated his 80th birthday here, Jan.4.

1930 - "Cobb was the fiery, fighting Southern type, a very likable man with a wild temper, and undoubtedly the greatest player of all time. Beside being the best base runner and hitter he was a magnificent fielder and a fine thrower until he hurt hisarm, but it was his indomitable spirit that made him the leader. He fought for every point and fought his fellows if they did not battle as hard for victory as he did. I sat behind Cobb on the club house porch once with Germany Schaefer, watching him

instead of the game. He moved before each pitch, and leaped in one or another direction each time a ball was thrown, never still for an instant and always tensely observant of every move made on the field. (Baseball's Best, pp. 605,

fans liked him. Personally, I hate to think that the Georgian has gone. I started writing baseball with the Detroit Club and found Cobb always ready to help a young fellow along. . . .The Tigers will not seem the same with Cobb missing from the troupe

1925 - "the versatility of Cobb's attack, which proved his keen baseball intelligence - of a higher degree, certainly, than the Sultan's - is enough to give him the edge. In the field there can be little room for argument, Ruth is by no means a poorfielder, but nature did not build him with the ranging power that was given Cobb. He has unquestionably a stronger arm, but Ty has made better use of his, if "assist" averages can be given credence. . . No one can claim that Ty was less than a busy manin the field. In this respect he heads Ruth at every department. . . . In addition, he went out, and gobbled flies that the more ponderous Yankee star could never have garnered. . . . But, purely in the business of outfielding, which is the only one onwhich he and Cobb can be compared, he was definitely the Georgian's inferior. . . . On these figures it seems to me that Ty Cobb deserves a higher rating than does Babe Ruth at the top of the baseball ladder."

1933 - "Cobb is the outstanding ball player of all time." (History of Baseball, edited by Joe Reichler & Allison Danzig, 1959, pp. 162, column 1, gives "New York Post, 1933" as a reference, but no dates)1961 - "As for Cobb, he was the greatest. He'd beat out a bunt and pretty soon he'd wind up at home. Baseball to Ty was war. He'd spike his own mother if a base was at stake. He was a player without a weakness except that in his later years his arm

1940 - "Deservedly in this list comes Ty Cobb on every poll ever taken, voted "the greatest player that ever lived." What kind of a chap did Ty appear to me? Of course, I saw him on the field, flashing spikes and the old bean working every minute. Tywas irascible to those who didn't know and sometimes to them who did; he would fight at the drop of the hat and frequently did. There were stories of him that he would deliberately cut down a base-guardian as he went his merry way of thievery on thebases. There never was the slightest basis of fact in these charges. After all, you know the base-runner, too, has rights, and all Cobb wanted was all of them. To me, off the field, he was the kindest and most soft-spoken of gentlemen. In the lateryears, of his long service, I got to know him very well and once - he was then with the Athletics- he came to St. Louis and I wrote a story about him. He wasn't the old Cobb then by several nautical miles but his battling spirit still was there and, evenafter 40, he still was a great ball-player. Someway, the story struck his fancy. He invited me out to his hotel to personally thank me and assure me that story would go into his scrapbook. To this scribe, Cobb the nonpareil of baseball players, willever be a star--on and off, as the actors say. A player of his type comes only once in three or four lifetimes." (Baseball Magazine, January, 1940, pp. 341, column 1, "Players We Have Met", by James M. Gould, pp. 341-342, 379-380)

1940 - "They're still looking for another Ty Cobb. And this writer will hock' the family plate--at least he would if there were any--and bet it all that, when the next century of the national pastime begins, they'll still be looking for one.He could hit like a fiend and his like as a base-runner never will be seen again. But he wasn't a great fielder. (Baseball Magazine, June, 1940, pp. 304, What's Baseball's Biggest Asset, by James M. Gould, pp.303-304, 328-329)1925 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb ranks as the greatest player that base ball has ever known. . . . It is possible that Rogers Hornsby hits the ball harder, perhaps oftener, than did Tyrus Raymond Cobb. It is indubitably true that Babe Ruth hits a ball with amore wicked swing, more tremendous power than did or does Tyrus Raymond Cobb. But neither ranks in our mind as the ALL-AROUND BATTER that Cobb is. For the Georgian mastered every artifice known to batsmen. . . . He could clasp that bat in his gnarledhands and hit distance clouts that made him no small marksman with the bludgeon. He could place the ball as adeptly as Keeler, the greatest of all batsmen in this one feature of hitting. Cobb had no weakness as a hitter. He had no fault with the stick.His appearance as the bat in the days of his glory and youth was the moment in which the opposing pitcher had his direst situation, his toughest foe and his darkest moment. . . . So Ty ran "wild" on the bases. But he ran with a purpose. He startedothers on the same path, in fact he revolutionized the game. He tore baseball away from its old wedlock to the army game, merely a contest of hit, run, field and throw. He put it in a scientific groove, from which it did not free itself until Babe Ruthand his bat lured base ball back to the old game of sock. But he had accomplished his purpose. His style, his methods, his finish converted base ball, growing steadily tedious, in which either the pitcher was supreme or the batter was august, into a

game where fresh stratagems were offered to outwit both. The game became speedier, the play became faster, the game held more of an appeal and a lure. And Tyrus Raymond Cobb DID THAT.(Official American League Reach Base Ball Guide,February, 1926, pp. 38)1958 - "As a figure in baseball, as must have been written down this side of this sports page at least a thousand times, Babe Ruth was to the writer "The Old Guy who stood Alone." The description was mine and is, I think, still apt.

beat your brains out with the home run? Or a player who might play only one position and yet might be superlative as a hitter, base runner, defensive star, and a winner of games. Because Babe was so superb and I was writing pieces in his years of glory,and while I believed and still know that in one sense, he "Stood Alone," I still never wrote that opinion of him without somehow thinking of Ty Cobb. Because, you see it's difficult to make a comparison between the sort of players, that Babe and Ty were.That I saw Big George play many games must go without saying. I, also, saw Cobb play quite a few games at Sportsman's Park--before it got around to living every golden minute as Busch Stadium." Bill then went on to say that Mays might go on to exceed all

1940 - "Occasionally you'll hear fans arguing about who was the greatest player the game ever knew, but most ball players accept Cobb as tops, without a question. They still talk in dugouts and on trains and in hotel lobbies about how Cobb did this or

- Cleveland fans were sorry to read of the passing of Ty Cobb. There was no city in the league where Cobb was more popular. He was always the object of much razzing, but he always gave it right back and the

. What would you be looking for? A Ruth, who could pitch with the best, play first base, and

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1948 - "The question of who was the greatest ball player of all time is largely a matter of opinion and important largely to two persons-- the one expressing the opinion and the one who quickly challenges and disagrees. We saw Sisler at his peak, and it is not difficult to pick him as the greatest in our book. He didn't hit home runs at the Ruth pace. Detroit will laugh at the suggestion that Sisler be ranked above Ty Cobb. But we'll stick to Sisler, nevertheless." (Golden Age of Sports, edited by

1969 - The late Denman Thompson, sports editor of the Evening Star for many years, passed on shortly before he could find out if his late, great friend, Ty Cobb, would be voted the all-time best player. Thompson and Cobb carried on a voluminous

correspondence for years and Thompson always believed that no greater player ever lived than his friend, "The Georgia Peach". (Washington Post, July 20, 1969, pp. 45, "Considerable Coverage", by Bob Addie)1950 - "putting the finger on the greatest of them all caused not the slightest bit of confusion. Tyrus Raymond Cobb does not have even a close competitor when the king of all ball players is to be named. That was an opinion which became unrestrained more than forty years back, a conclusion reached by the majority of the players, managers and scriveners of that era, and was continued throughout the following decade and a half before the Great Ty started to bow to the whims and edicts of Father Time.It is an opinion which will hold forth, in the thoughts of the brainiest baseball men of the first half of this twentieth century, when the twenty-first century makes its bow, provided that the history of the sport is as accurately written and withoutbias as it has been to date. No hope is held that there ever again will be another Ty Cobb. . . .From . . . 1905 until . . . 1928, he was the most amazing of all ball players. . . . Not the greatest outfielder ever to patrol an outer garden nor thepossessor of as great a throwing arm as many others had, Cobb made up for what he lacked by the uncanny manner in which he played the game, so there never was any complaint concerning his defensive ability. Offensively, he was so far ahead of all others he made a joke of comparison. He was the greatest batsman of all time and the scourge of all pitchers during his heyday. . his popularity was confined to his attractiveness as a GREAT. He was hooted and howled at, booed, stoned, attacked by both playersand fans, and yet no other person proved the magnet for real fans as he. . . Boston, always noted in those days as one of the smartest of all baseball cities, disliked him cordially and let him know it. . . Detroit's Tigers were the greatest attraction

because of Ty's presence in the lineup. And because he batted in third spot in the lineup and thus was sure to come to bat in the opening inning, the stands usually were filled when the game started -- nobody wanted to miss seeing even one of his timesat bat. He probably got as much opposition in Boston as in any city, particularly in the days of the great Red Sox teams of the first Bill Carrigan regime. Bill -- Old Rough they call him in those days --refused to acknowledge that Tyrus couldn't bestopped and it was a constant battle whenever the two teams met. . . Think of a player defying an entire team, not only once, but regularly and going on to play in what is today considered superhuman form. Chances are slim there ever will be another Ty

Cobb in baseball ability. . . So perhaps it is not so much of a chance veteran baseball men are taking when they say that Ty Cobb was the greatest in the first half of the twentieth century and that he still will hold that honor when the first hundred

1926 - "There is hardly any doubt that Cobb was the greatest ball player the game has produced. . . . He could do things no other ball player could equal. He was the most scientific of the batsmen and the most daring and effective of the base runners. In the outfield, he was below the standard of Tris Speaker, Eddie Roush and a few others, but he made himself a star. He developed a sense of showmanship that led to some of the most spectacular catches ever made by an outfielder. . . .Baseball will

1926 - "Ty Cobb, lean of flank, is presented as "the greatest ballplayer of them all." That was 15 years ago and it is interesting to note that Cobb clung to the title to the end of his diamond career. The Georgian kept so far ahead of the field that

1957 - "It is impossible to over-praise his ability on the ball field. . . . If there ever is another Ty Cobb in baseball, this will be a most extraordinary happening. Ball players like Cobb are singular, rare, even among those who are indisputablygreat. I am very glad that I saw him play frequently. Ty Cobb is generally regarded as the greatest ball player who ever lived. That was how he was thought of at the height of his career. . . . But be this as it may, Ty Cobb remains as somethingphenomenal and utterly extraordinary in the history of baseball . . . He had the natural equipment, the instinct, or intuition, the head, the daring and the interest to be what he was--a ball player of untold greatness. . There are great ball players who are mechanically perfect, who do everything well and show their unmistakable abilities. There are others like Cobb.. Cobb played with his full potential and you always sensed that. He gave himself to the game, and with a baseball intelligence thatmatched his daring. Added to every other talent there was mind. He played with his mind, and this you felt as you watched him.. We can say that there are many kinds of ball players, including great ones. But even among the great ball players there is something particular to say of Ty Cobb. He played with brilliance. Averages, better fielding equipment, night games, more road trips, the lively ball and the whole shebang notwithstanding, it is rare that you see athletes like Ty Cobb. As a ball playerhe was what the French call quelque chose, and on the ball field he had je ne sais quoi. It means the same in English-- "I do not know what." (My Baseball Diary, by James T. Farrell, 1957, pp. 219, 220, 222- 226 )

1966 - "Possibly one had to see Ty Cobb play to believe that he played as he did. He was the most singular phenomenon of a ball player whom I have ever seen play, more singular even than Babe Ruth or Ted Williams." (August 11, 1966)1951 - "He was Tyrus R. Cobb, the Georgia Peach, called by more experts than any other man, baseball's greatest all-around player. For nearly 25 years Cobb dominated the sport. He played each contest as though his life depended on it. . . Connie Mack,once asked what baseball's greatest record was, without hesitation pointed to Cobb. "The toughest thing to do is to continue hustling and bearing down after you have achieved success. Yet Ty never let any of his incredible achievements slow him down ormake him complacent. His great number of titles over a long period of time is baseball's greatest record." . . . Many experts rate the Georgia Peach as the greatest ballplayer who ever lived. "That Cobb," they swear. "He was in a class all by himself."

1961 - "I'm sad because I think of the times my boy, Bobby, who would ask me to tell him about Cobb. I'd disguise my ignorance of the man by merely saying, "Bobby, he was the greatest player who ever lived." And he'd ask, hesitantly, even greater than

1969 - "Mr. (Dick) Young asks us to name the greatest single player in history, and this has to be either Ruth or Cobb and you can argue long into the night over the merits of these two players, and finally I came up with Ruth because he seemed to have

more of an impact on the game, though for sheer ability, Cobb probably had an edge on The Bambino." (Sporting News, July 5, 1969, pp. 2, column 2) (note: ripped Ty off through double-talk. Falls now in 2001 puts Ruth #1 again in a personal letter.)1975 - "This was one of the wisest moves ever made in the Tigers' history, because Cobb became the greatest player in the game." "Some say Cobb was the greatest player of all time. " (The Detroit Tigers by Joe Falls, 1975) 1926 - Cobb Stands Alone - For twenty-two years Cobb has blazed a flaming trail along the pathways of baseball, has done the things wonderful, spectacular, Herculean -- things almost unbelievable in the sheer brilliance of achievement.

Cobb not merely has no equal but he never had a rival. They've called him "peerless," the"wonder man," "amazing," the "baseball sublime," yet none ever has properly praised him because the English language knows no adjective sufficiently superlative to

1941 - "If any youngster doubts--no old timer who knows anything at all about baseball would--the greatness of Ty Cobb, the game's number one man in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown, let him take a look at the records. This genius of geniuses with his

1951 - "Ty is generally regarded as the greatest of all players, and a detailed review of his record achievements alone would require more space than is allotted for this article. (Baseball Magazine, May, 1951, pp. 405)1954 - "But as a hitter and as a base runner, Cobb stood alone. You can say that Mays has more power but all you actually know is that Willie hits the modern lively ball farther than Cobb could hit the leather covered rock pitchers threw 40 years ago.

Babe Ruth?" I'd reply, "Yes, even greater than Babe Ruth," . . .and his eyes would light up with an admiration that can come only with hero worshipper of 9." (Detroit Free Press, Tuesday, July 18, 1961, pp. 25, "Confidence! It Made Cobb Great, by Joe F

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Home runs were not unknown to Cobb. for instance, he led the league in 1909 with nine, indicating that he was one of the best of his time. (Brooklyn Eagle, August 11, 1954, pp. 18 This is Ridiculous--Mays Versus Cobb)(Author's note; In the interest of historical accuracy, Cobb easily outslugged Mays. Cobb led his league in RBI's 4 times, Total Bases 6 times, slugging ave. 8 times, OBA 6 times. Mays led the same categories 0 times, 3 times, 5 times, 2 times.

1926 - "Cobb, the player, was the greatest. . . Cobb, when at his best, was always doing the unexpected. When he reached first he usually upset the entire opposing team." (Sporting News, Dec. 9, 1926, pp. 3, column 2)

1926 - "Cobb's retirement will give birth again to the fruitless discussion that attempts to fasten the fame of being the greatest player in the history of the game on this man or that man. It will result in a digging up of the records of Pop Anson,famous first baseman and manager of the old Chicago White Stockings: of Honus Wagner, the Flying Dutchman of the Pittsburgh infield, and of the contemporary Babe Ruth and Rogers Hornsby. Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirersof Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps even greater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines,

"Disregarding the merits of the testimony offered by the admirers of Anson, Wagner, Ruth and Hornsby, we credit Cobb with being the greatest individualist that ever trod a baseball diamond. Babe Ruth has his flair of showmanship, is perhaps evengreater than Cobb ever was as a creator of newspaper headlines, and , no doubt, has proven a greater drawing card, but Cobb was Cobb and no other has approached him." (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 7, column 3)

1961 - "Every one identified with baseball agrees that Cobb was the game's greatest individual player," remarked Keener. "Of course, there is Babe Ruth and his record as a home run slugger, and the mighty Honus Wagner. However, Ty was creative, daring,

and courageous. He compiled more records than any other player. Ty will be missed in Cooperstown and throughout baseball. However, his performance on the ball field will live on and on."(July 20, 1961,"Ty Cobb Dies; One of First Hall of Famers",by Farmer)1963 - "I still think Ty Cobb was number one," the former sports writer said. "He was the individualist, the creator. He was the first man to go from first to third on an infield out. He was the first to score from second on an outfield fly."

Many of Cobbledick's columns focused on the never-ending debate over who was the greatest ballplayer of all time or who did or did not deserve admission to baseball's Hall of Fame. Cobbledick did not agree with polls of sportswriters and broadcasterswho named George Herman "Babe" Ruth as the greatest player of the twentieth century. In Cobbledick's opinion Ty Cobb was the greatest player. Acknowledging that Ruth was a superlative home run hitter, Cobbledick maintained that in every other category,

1926 - "Ty Cobb, for 22 years with Detroit and the last two seasons with Philadelphia, has announced his retirement from active baseball at the end of the current pennant fight. Thus passes the greatest diamond performer of all time. That is The Wake's opinion. With those who may choose some one else we have no quarrel or argument, but for all around accomplishment give us Ty Cobb. Babe Ruth unquestionably has attracted more people through the turnstiles than any other player, past orpresent. He has produced more home runs in one season and still is producing them. He is a clouter. If Cobb be inferior to Ruth as a home run hitter he was not inferior in any other respect, not even in batting. On the bases, in the outfield, in quick

thinking, he outclassed the Bambino. One watches with anticipation when Babe Ruth is at bat. One watched with anticipation when Ty Cobb was at bat, in the field, or on the bases. If one didn't watch one was likely to miss something worth seeing. Even when Ty passes his name will endure long in record book. He led the American league in batting twelve years -- nine years in succession, from 1907-1915 inclusive. That mark is approached only by Hans Wagner, who topped the list eight times in theNational league. Cobb led his league in stolen bases ten different seasons and had a record of 96 in 1915. Marks which he holds take nearly a half page in the baseball guide. Strangely enough, this greatest player of all time never enjoyed being on a world's championship aggregation. Three times while he was a member Detroit won its league pennant --1907-8-9--and lost three times in succession, to the Cubs twice and to Pittsburgh. Always a high salaried player. Cobb retires independently wealthy. . . . It always will be a pleasant memory to The Wake that we saw him in action so many times during his prime. ( Sept. 23, 1928, Chicago Daily Tribune, In the Wake of the News; Harvey T. Woodruff inherited this column from Jack Lait in Nov.,'19,who in turn, had inherited it from Ring Lardner in Jun.,'19. Lardner had conducted the column since June, 1913. Harvey T. Woodruff conducted the column In the Wake of the News until his death in '37, when Arch Ward inherited it until his death in '55. 1951 - "In fact, it was his terrific base-running, along with his superb batting and strong fielding, that made Ty Cobb the greatest player the game ever had. Now, of course, speaking of Cobb as the greatest player of all time may not be a universalopinion, but it is mine as well as that of such an authority as the late Charles A. Comiskey and a number of other baseball men who watched Cobb during his entire career. (Baseball Magazine, April, 1951, pp. 375).1952 - "Crowding the 25-year champs at 24 was perhaps the greatest player of them all, Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach. Cobb set the American League afire shortly after joining the Detroit Tigers back in 1905, and kept the flame burning brightly

1941 - "Perhaps the most classic and wide-spread baseball question is, "Who was the game's greatest ballplayer?" Most of the decisions on this one, and there must have been millions, have slipped the duke to either Tyrus Raymond Cobb, or John HenryWagner. If, in contrast to the baseball umpire's decision, which is generally in the minority, but always final, this were left to a vote, the verdict would undoubtedly go to Cobb, the fiery Georgia Peach. But if it were left to a consensus of expertbaseball opinions of those who were familiar with both players in their prime, it would probably go to the Flying Dutchman.With such acknowledged baseball experts as John J. McGraw and Ed Barrow giving Wagner the palm."(Baseball Magazine,May,1941,pp. 554)1930 - "Shortstop would present the second greatest ballplayer the world has produced--Honus Wagner. Next to Cobb, the Flying Dutchman rates as the game's most wonderful performer. Who will ever forget those two? Wagner was a circus all by himself. Many people went every time Pittsburgh came to town just to see Honus play like they go to see Babe Ruth sock home runs now. Now for outfielders. Ty Cobb leads them all. Ty could do anything. . . He is the game's greatest hitter, run scorer and baserunner. . . He ran wild on the bases. . . He always specialized in the unexpected. . . He played at all times to win--tried his hardest even though his team might be out of the pennant race. That's the spirit that conquers worlds and builds empires."

1946 - "What Shakespeare was to literature, Beethoven was to music, Caruso was to tenors, Napoleon was to warfare, Lincoln was to statesmanship,Newton was to physics, Ty Cobb was to baseball--peculiar, alone, unique; the apotheosis of the apple slappers.. . . I am also asked, whenever I broach the subject, what Ty Cobb would do with this fast ball and modern style of play. I have already explained what Sam Crawford would do. But with Ty it is different. Nobody ever knew what he would do--anywhere or at any time, on or off the field. With his lightninglike thought processes, his power of concentration, his sublime courage and his ruthless will to win, there is no doubt he would be a sensation under any set of conditions, or with any kind of ball. But

it would not be the Ty Cobb who stands alone now in the Hall of Fame at Cooperstown. Ty's genius was strategy, . . . That year(1915) Cobb was thrown out thirty-eight times while trying to steal. But here figures don't mean much. More strategy. Anytime the Tigers were away ahead, and our pitcher was working smoothly, Cobb always ran wild on the bases, just to build up his reputation as an India-rubber idjit on a spree, as that old sports writer, Kipling, might have called him. He never wanted any infield, pitcher or catcher, to have a moment's rest. He wanted'em so badly scared they'd still be frightened the next day. I must admit that, having watched this piece of greased lightning in human form ever since that first day he joined the Tigers inAugust 1905 after he had hung up his spiked shoes for good, the game was never quite the same for me. I never see a runner rounding second now, hesitating and dancing back to the bag like a frightened bird whose mother is trying to push him out of thenest, that I don't recall what Cobb would have done in the same situation. . . With Cobb on the bags, it was easy for the batters following him to get hits. The pitcher had something else on his mind. . . . But he ( Tigers owner Frank J. Navin) neverdenied it was Ty's fame brought the money to the gate. Ty made possible the great new field. . . .There are many leaders of business today who will confess that they came to Detroit during the first and second decades of the twentieth century so that

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they could watch Ty Cobb play. . . . "I didn't know that you were a baseball fan, Jimmy." (Malcolm Bingay to Jimmy Doolittle, famous aviator.) "I'm not," he grinned; "just a Cobb fan. As a kid in St. Louis I never missed a game in which Cobb played, but | can't remember bing interested in any others. What interested you in Ty Cobb?" "Speed!" said Jimmy. "Just speed! I wanted to see him go around those bases." "Would ty have made a good aviator?" "Yes--a wonder! I have never known any other man who

1921 - "In stategy, there isn't a manager in the game who can out-brain Cobb. He is the most brilliant player in the game and he can be expected to devise brilliant plays for the club as he has devised them for himself."

1961 - "I was flabbergasted that this greatest of all ball players remembered the incident and had demeaned himself to apologize publicly. . . I submit that this bears out your contention that Cobb was a wonderful and warm-hearted man, tops in character

1925 - "Cobb, who has done more for local baseball than any man living or dead. The greatest player who ever wore spikes, holder of more batting and base running records than any other man, a fiery and hard-working manager-this is all the Georgia Peach has been to Detroit. (NY Times, May 17, 1925, pp. S1)

In the same blunt appraisal, Gallico saw Cobb as the greatest player who ever lived, greater even than Babe Ruth or Honus Wagner, a unique, compelling character. . . an astonishing man who infused such drama, flesh and blood into the chill records he set

1935 - "The greatest all-around performer that baseball ever developed, taking into account all of the game's ramifications, batting, base running, defensive skill, longevity and general brilliance, was Ty Cobb. Only a stride behind him rode Tris Speaker. In fact, Spoke's one misfortune was that his illustrious career had to run concurrently with that of the famous Georgia Peach. And the most colorful, glamorous and perhaps the most truly great of them all was George Herman Ruth."

1938 - "Cobb, perhaps, came closer than any to filling all the requirements. He was dynamic, brilliant, literally driving himself to greatness. What he did not come by naturally he acquired by long and patient practice. He ranked for years as thegreatest sure-fire hitter the game ever saw. To this he added a dash and daring on the basepaths no player has ever been able to match. He was not the greatest of fielders, but by long, diligent practice he drove himself to the point where he could doall things more than reasonably well. With the same determination that he tore into his sliding pits until his sides were raw he would practice throws to the plate until his arm was ready to drop off." (Baseball Magazine, November, 1938, pp. 549)1945 - "But why try to explain Cobb's method of doing things? He was so far beyond the average that what might seem simple and fundamental to him would be out of the reach of the ordinary athlete. The fiery Georgian--pardon me, he is a very meek

1957 - "Cobb was more than just a great player, probably the greatest of them all. He was a diamond intellectual, analyst and psychologist rolled into one. Not only could he hit better and run faster that anyone else, but he also could outthink any

1961 - "At Tupelo, Miss., last February, Andy Reese, Giants' speedster of the late '30's recalled how Cobb worked with Lefty O'Doul and himself. "We trained in his home town, Augusta, and he hadn't yet reported for his own last year with the A's. Hemade Lefty and me come out every morning at 7 o'clock and hit. I guess that's what he used to do himself when he was a minor leaguer. But here he was, 41, out there with a bat. Cobb won the batting chamionship for O'Doul in my book."

1914 - "Off the field Ty is first a gentleman, affable and retiring. He's not the bellicose, blatant butcher-beater that he has been pictured. On the contrary, he's what Robert Burns would call a "discontented ghost, a perturbed spirit." Ty has a

1939 - "There never was such a combination of brains and skill." Batchelor recalls today. "Others might have been able to imagine the plays he made, but only Cobb could execute them." ( Sporting News, April 6, 1939, pp. 9, column 5)1961 - "As the oldest active member of the Baseball Writer's Association of America, in point of continuous service dating back to October 1908, it was my privilege to see a very large percentage of the baseball games in which Tyrus Raymond Cobbappeared during his tenure of 22 years with the Detroit Tigers. This, I believe, lends some authority to my appraisal of his talents and accomplishments. It has established that, in my considered opinion, he was , all things considered,the greatest ballplayer that ever lived and the most valuable piece of property ever owned by any ball club,". . . "Early in his baseball life, a canard developed that Ty was a brawler who constantly sought trouble. Unfortunately for him, there then

were . . . on the Detroit roster, a few who were contemptible bullies. . . "So much of the Cobb saga has to do with his hitting and basestealing that many fans forget his accomplishments as a fielder. He was one of the best, with speed enough to cover ground, good judgment on fly ball, sure hands, and an adequate arm. In fact, in his early days his arm rated excellent but he impaired it somewhat by insisting on trying to develop into a pitcher and spending a lot of time throwing curves and various

1965 - "Ah, now there was a ball player. A player of fantastic skills. . . .But he won't utter a word about Cobb, the man. "There's only one thing I want to remember--that he was a great ball player. I don't want to remember the rest," he said.

1958 - "I didn't know Cobb intimately when he played for Detroit. I met him only once then, via Lu Blue, the Detroit first baseman. I did know Cobb intimately in 1927 and 1928, when he played for the Philadelphia Athletics, also in 1929 and in 1930. The latter year I visited him for ten days at his home in Augusta. Cobb to me was not only by far the greatest player I ever saw, he was a fascinating conversationalist, well versed in finance and world affairs as well as baseball. I spent dozens of

of evenings with him and listened to him by the hour. I was surely a friend of his and he of mine. Al Simmons was his friend. So was Dan Howley, manager of the Browns and later Cincinnati. When I visited Ty in Augusta, he seemed to know everybody and everybody knew him. Some of his buddies went fishing with us. He was far from a lonely man. So I want to pay tribute to the greatest ball player and, in my opinion, an outstanding personality and friend." (Sp. News, Nov. 19, 1958, pp. 15, column 4 & 5) 1962 - "Ty Cobb was a man who had many friends and there were many who disliked him. . .to me he was the greatest player I ever saw by far during 53 years watching the game as a fan, feature writer and TV commentator."

1939 - "they never laughed at the man who was to stand alone as the fiery genius of baseball.". . .Bill Croke. . . He is the man who peddled the greatest ball player of all time to Bill Armour. . . July 4, 1905. (New Enterprise Ass., Apr. 6, 1939)1944 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb stands alone as the fiery genius of baseball. Ty Cobb possessed a combination of talents that has been found in no one else, but it was his burning desire to excel that made him the greatest ball player who ever lived. Cobbwas so sincerely a bad loser that he became a terrific winner. Cobb was the only player who dominated the game. . . .They did not know how to play him. (They Played the Game: The Story of Baseball Greats, by Harry Grayson, 1944, pp. 3)1927 - "People talk of Babe Ruth as a better ball player than Cobb. Right now, he is. But when one considers their life time averages there can't be any comparison. Cobb is in a class by himself." (NY Herald-Tribune, 1927,)

"Cobb, the first player elected to Baseball's Hall of Fame-- even outpolling home run king Babe Ruth by seven votes in the original balloting in 1936--was the unique genius of the game's first century. . .

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. . . brought to the game a special brand of daring, intensity and consuming will to win that never has been matched by any player past or present. . . Cobb most recently was honored by the New York chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association on Jan. 21, 1960. In an unusual departure from custom, the writers honored Cobb as "the outstanding player of 1911" -- 49 years later--and heard him say feelingly, "I'm proud I was a ball player." (NY Journal-American, July 18, 1961)1950 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb, recognized in Georgia and other parts of the world as the greatest ball player of all time, came home to his native state, August 29, and found the Atlanta Crackers waiting for him,

1984 - "(Maury) Allen's book is entertaining and thoughtful, and its selections at times are courageous. He avoids the knee-jerk selection of Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth as the greatest ever, " (Bill James 1st Historical Baseball Abstract, 1984, pp. 276)1943 - "I saw my first big league (baseball) game in 1920. I have found it generally agreed that the White Sox club of 1919 were the absolute standout team of all time, that Cobb was the greatest player and Johnson the greatest pitcher.

1961 - "Thus will come to an earthly end the saga of the Georgia Peach, Ty Cobb, the incomparable, the athlete aflame with an insatiable desire to succeed, the greatest baseball player of all time. His accomplishments are legion and have been recounted

1947 - "Cobb comes first. He was King. A score of years after his retirement, when the first Hall of Fame selections were being made, the experts said, "Well, first of all there's Cobb." His name led all the rest. And for the twenty-four years heplayed he led all the rest--in hitting, base stealing, run making--in everything. He is remembered as a base runner and hitter but he was spectacular in the outfield although his arm was considered little better than average. Even so, he led the league

in assists one year. As for his batting, he had no peer and it is unlikely that he ever will have. . . remember, that Cobb never got anything but the best from the pitchers he faced. They never eased up on him. They worked the corners and fed him every

1912 - STAR OF TIGER TEAM IN A CLASS BY HIMSELF --TY COBB IS KING OF BALL PLAYERS --"After seven years of work on the diamond Ty Cobb--Tyrus Raymond Cobb is his complete title--is without doubt the king of baseball players. The accompanying box

proves that he is a better offensive player than either Lajoie or Wagner, the only men who dispute his title. And where they come in to be compared in the same class with the Tiger is beyond the wildest dream of the writer. . . . Cobb may have a superiorin every department of the game, but all around he is the champion. Davy Jones, the former leftfielder of the Detroits, beat Cobb in a 100-yard race for a side bet one day last season. Surely Milan, of Washington, and Speaker, of Boston, have it on himin fielding. Birmingham Cree and a dozen others have a better arm. But where does this bunch compare with Cobb? Why, he would be worth them all put together if the bunch was on the market." ( Atlanta Georgian, January, 1912, by W. S. Farnsworth)1945 - "IT WAS TY COBB, THE GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER who ever lived, at present a very successful businessman, whom we wanted. . . .Esquire, the magazine, had asked us to secure Ty Cobb's services if possible, and we wouldn't have batted any eye, nor would Esquire have batted one of the pop eyes of the gentleman on its cover, if Mr. Cobb had suggested a stiff fee. If Mr. Cobb's services were actually to be paid for, on a business bases, in this situation something like $10,000 would have beenabout right. Ty is a good business man; and he knows it. And some say he's a difficult uncooperative type guy. Why, this greatest player who ever lived, this "difficult guy," this very busy man who had previously had not the slightest indication thathe would be asked to do this job--right there, then and there, without hesitation; gave two weeks of his time and a lot of work to the American kids who love baseball and promptly said he couldn't accept any money for working with a bunch of boys. . . .We

"He ran the bases as they never had been run before and never will be run again. He gave no quarter and he asked none. He took the extra chance, got that extra base. He was flame and fury. He was Ty Cobb. There will never be another."

acceptance the game could bestow--the first man to be enshrined in the Hall of fame. Cobb's accomplishments are so numerous that he virtually turned the record boods of baseball into an autobiography. (Sporting News, Jan. 24, 1862, pp. 12, column 5)

1960 - "greatest baserunner of all time". . ."his super talent". . "There will never be another Ty Cobb. racing for the nearest base, his steel spikes glistening under the summer sun, a star hated, feared, and admired." (Hartford Times, April 16, 1960)

1926 - "The passing from the active field of the major leagues of Ty Cobb was recognized in these parts as the big news story that it undoubtedly was. Even the newspapers which had been filled with wet and dry propaganda prior to the election allowed

1928 - "Men mobbed him if they could, yelled for his heart and shouted for his blood. Then they cooled down and shattered the welkin with plaudits for his might. They saw him throw an enemy camp into a ferment with one derisive twist of his fingersand thumb. They saw him disconcert nine men by his mere presence by his mere presence on the bases. They saw him perform miracles on the diamond, such miracles as no successor has ever bequeathed to baseball." (Sporting News, Sept. 27, 1928, pp. 4,col. 3)

1950 - "Smith declared that Ty Cobb was still his choice as the greatest ball player of all time despite Babe Ruth's prowess as a home run hitter. His said Bill Lange, old-time slugging outfielder with the White Stockings in the 90's, might have

1925 - Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the "Georgia Peach," who is without a doubt the greatest athlete of all time, is rapidly nearing the "dead line" of his scintillating baseball career. For twenty years Cobb has been making and breaking record on the diamond, and

1926 - "Ty Cobb. Will the world ever see his equal? For twenty-one years now he has led Father Time a merry chase, and has been giving that worthy gentleman, as well as the baseball prophets, the merry "Ha, Ha," ever since 1914, when the firstTy Cobb is slipping stories started to circulate. Cobb may not be the greatest manager in baseball, but he is its greatest player, and there never was a greater one before him." (Los Angeles Times, Apr 27, 1926, pg. B2)1926 - "We rise to the side of our contemporary expert, Ed Franey, who utters a loud and vehement protest against the theory that Babe Ruth is the greatest ballplayer. Babe is the best press-agented ballplayer and no mistake but he has a long way to

1950 - "I'd like to join my fellow sports-page alumnus Henry McLemore in disagreeing with the "best athletes of the half century" picked by the Associated Press. Worst boner of all was picking Babe Ruth as the greatest ballplayer -- he couldn't carry

1927 - "Cobb was the greatest ballplayer. And he is still the greatest ballplayer. He plays not only with his legs and arms but with his brains. He thinks every second of the game and acts. In years gone by Ty would tell the pitcher he was goingdown to second on the next pitched ball. And he went. He doesn't do so much talking nowadays, but let his opponents for a second take their minds off him and he will do something that will tend to upset their equilibrium's. When Cobb is on the fieldhe considers every one of the opposing players his personal enemy. In his own mind his mission on any diamond is to win. On the ball field he never asked nor gave any quarter. Fight! Fight! Fight! That's his individual psychology when he dons a

Baseball and the human race never knew another like him. . . . he cared not that he wasn't always popular, only that he was forever the best. His rich ability earned for him the highest decoration of

1955 - "When Jim McAleer said "No" to Harry Baker, the St. Louis Browns lost the greatest ballplayer that ever played baseball. You may have guessed his name by now, as he was none other than the great Tyrus Raymond Cobb, better known as Ty Cobb!

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1953 - "The man who is generally regarded as baseball's No. 1 immortal . . . (Sporting News, February 25, 1953, pp. 11, column 1, "Ty Doesn't Believe Collins Had It on Him", by Prescott Sullivan, pp. 11, column 1-5)

1940 - "At that Earl (Hamilton) rolled up one pants leg and showed three ugly scars, lasting mementos from the fightingest, greatest player baseball ever had." (Los Angeles Times, March 14, 1940, pp. 24, "The Sports Ray", by Bob Ray)

1933 - "He has been named the greatest outfielder of all times. There have been outfielders at different periods of the game who surpass the Georgian's performance as a fielder and thrower, but there the argument ends. Speaker, who ranks but a fewpoints behind Cobb in all-around value, was superior to Cobb on the defensive. . . Cobb was never acclaimed as an artist in playing the outfield. He was more colorful, in many ways, than was Speaker, but in playing the position, the Peach didn't have theclass of Tris. The famous Georgian was brilliant, aggressive, fearless and dashing in all departments of the game, but his fame came chiefly as a batter and base runner. Speaker had dash and daring, too, could throw and run and his ability to come into take a short fly and to race far back to take a long drive will long be remembered. It was Speaker's original style that made him the outstanding player of an outfield position. There was nothing erratic, eccentric or temperamental about Speaker,

but when he cut loose in his outfield playing he was the personification of all that colorful, brilliant and impressive. Then this great outfielder was a batsman who I rate among the best." (Sporting News, January 5, 1933, pp. 5, column 1)1942 - "For many years we have been asked the same question, over and over: Who was the greatest player of all time?" . . . finally, we decided to put it to the ball players themselves. We addressed letters to about 100 former major league stars and managers and asked them the question. One hundred and two votes were cast and the answer is: Tyrus Raymond Cob. Not alone did the old ace players and pilots of the nation select Cob as the greatest player of all time but they made him their choice by

an overwhelming majority. He received 60 of the votes cast; the remaining 42 were divided among 14 players. . . So there you are. You know how the players stand. We know how they voted and why and we sincerely hope that this will provide a lasting

1947 - "and that Cobb, the greatest player of all time, had been released. Just like that! (Judge Landis and 25 Years of Baseball, by JG Taylor Spink, 1947) (Actually ghost written by Fred Lieb, Spink signed off on it & endorsed it.)1945 - "My big thrill in baseball was Sisler's play in 1922, the year the Browns lost the pennant to the Yankees by a game. Ty Cobb was baseball's greatest player, but in 1922, when Sisler hit .420 and stole 51 bases, I think he was greater for one

1927 - "Cobb is unexcelled-unequaled I should have said. The greatest runner, the greatest hitter and the most powerful attacking force the game ever knew, - In addition a great fielder in his prime." (Sporting News, March 14,1929, pp. 5, column 2)

1983 - "Ty Cobb has to be recognized as the greatest ball player American baseball has had. . . . Yes, Tyrus Raymond Cobb from Georgia. Ty Cobb has to be No. 1 based upon the records. He was my idol. Opinions die, but his records live. And he was exciting on the field. . . . He was a tremendous player and he fought fair. He was the first man elected to the Hall of Fame." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)

1938 - "In 49 years I have not seen a greater ball player than Ty Cobb. For batting, skill, speed, audacity, base-running achievements -- well he was in a class by himself. But when it comes to color, ability to draw the crowd, and appeal to the fans --Babe Ruth had no second. He was the greatest home run hitter, of course. But he also was the top card at the gate. Baseball has not seen anything approaching him, and the future will struggle in vain to match the Babe at the box office. Cobb had ahabit of Cobb had a habit of making enemies in the crowd. Ruth always made friends. He was an idol, a great showman -- and he never overdid his showmanship." (Sporting News, Aug. 25, 1938, pp. 4, column 6)1962 - "To me, the spectacle of Cobb stretching a double into a triple was always more exhilarating than a Ruthian homer." ( Baseball Wit and Wisdom by Frank Graham and Dick Hyman, 1962, pp. 68)"Then the crowd fell into a nervous silence that was a tribute accorded no other ball player I ever saw. . . Through the dust I saw him kick the ball out of Buck Weaver's hand, and break for home, and make it. He stood up, laughing. I sat there,

1940's - Suddenly Larry stopped, grabbed us by the arm, and said: "You and I saw Cobb in his great years. Remembering him as he was, don't you often get weary watching the humpty dumpties that are drawing pay as big league players today?"

1926 - "Ty Cobb's great record is a common theme in baseball. People assume, quite as a matter of course, that this record has never been equaled. They are right. And yet, perhaps few of those fans, who are most ready with their praise, most eagerto crown the Tigers' manager with a laurel wreath, as the one peerless player of all time, could give you more than a fragmentary argument as to why he should be thus honored. Fortunately Ty's supremacy is not a mere opinion. There are many facts which can be drawn from the records to convince even the most skeptical. The pedestal upon which Cobb towers above all his fellows, past or present, is founded upon the imperishable records of the game. (Baseball Magazine, March, 1926, pp. 453, column 1)1961 - "Ours was a friendship of long standing. He played for me at New Haven(CT), where there was no Sunday baseball in New York and was a stockholder with me at New Haven. Only last summer he was my guest at a Baltimore series in Yankee stadium. His

"I don't believe that the ball player ever lived who had anything on Cobb. He is surely in a class by himself. His remarkable hitting ability, his fielding, speed, and nerve make him to my mind the greatest player the game has ever developed.

1948 - Edward Browning was a scorecard concessionaire at Sportsman Park, for the St. Louis Browns from1902 and the Cardinals from 1918. He watched them come and go in the Big Time, and usually managed to watch four or five innings of every gameplayed at the park. But his favorite, as yellow clippings on the wall of his small shop under the stands at Sportsman's Park indicated, was Ty Cobb. "It will be a long time," he would conclude his dissertation on Cobb,

(The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1953 - "Of all the ball players he ever met, Morrow held Ty Cobb in the greatest admiration. "He was by far the greatest player of all time," Henry said. "He was so far ahead there was not even a runner-up." When Cobb broke into the majors, he used a

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1937 - "While on the subject of those heroes, Matty was the best pitcher, Wagner the best infielder, Cobb the outfield marvel. Ruth was a grand guy, always obliging. But strictly a specialist in the home run. Not a Cobb all around. Chase was the

1994 - "Baseball's greatest player --Tyrus Raymond Cobb --died today in his native Georgia." Spoken over PA system in Detroit by Ernie Harwell, the night Ty died, July 17, 1961. "On that long-ago summer night, I pronounced Ty Cobb the greatest of them

all. No one has come along since to make me change my mind, although several of his important records have been broken since his death. . . . Not only did we school boys and our fathers consider the Georgia Peach the greatest ballplayer of all--greater

1928 - "Dear Mr. Lane, Now I wish to speak to some of the 2-game a year fans who know more than John McGraw. Those of you who are yelling about Rogers Hornsby and Babe Ruth as being the greatest batsmen and players of all time. Did you ever see Ruthplace a pretty bunt and beat it out, steal bases and slide all over the field, and did you ever see Hornsby slide? When Hornsby is coaching on a baseline he stands there, never says a word, nor moves, dead on his feet, in the field he's the same. Now the other side of it, who of you ever saw Tyrus Raymond Cobb, the Georgia Peach, the greatest ball player who ever swung a bat? Always scrapping, fighting, taking chances. Cobb uses more energy on the coaching line than Hornsby does in the game. Ty plays baseball, Hornsby and Ruth are all for long hitting. Anybody big enough can hit 'em a mile but none but Ty can bat like he did and still does after 20 years. Who can run like him? Slide like him? Fight like him? Cobb can't lose. It isn't in

1990 - "I read about 'role models' now. I guess if I had one it was Ty Cobb. I used to read everything in the New York Sun on him, and I saw him play. I just wrote a review of a book on him.. Now it's shown that he was a driven man, a psycho.A great ballplayer, of course, maybe the greatest of them all. Maybe -- it's hard to say. Ruth would certainly be in there. Ruth wasn't a specialist. He hit for average as well as for distance. And of course he was a star pitcher as well, but I don'tthink anyone ever hit a home run as he did. He was hitting when home runs were very unusual. He hit more home runs than the whole team, and way ahead of the league. But Cobb was the type of player who had this tremendous aggressive spirit, and he was

not only fast but a daring and intrepid baserunner, constantly had the other team on the defense. He was an expert hitter, held his hands apart or slid the upper hand down, hit the ball, bunted -- he was great at upsetting a team, crossing them up,pulling the unexpected, using all kinds of psychological tricks. Pete Rose was a top-flight hitter, but to compare Pete Rose with Ty Cobb is ludicrous." (The National Pastime, by SABR, 1990, #10, pp. 68, column 1)

1920 - "Miller Huggins, boss of the Yanks and a smart baseball man, was discussing Ruth with the writer(Harry Salsinger) a few days ago. "There isn't any doubt that Ruth is the greatest drawing card of all time," said Huggins. "He pulls them in. He makes the turnstiles click. Cobb, admittedly the greatest player of the game, never was a drawing card to compare with Ruth. Have you figured out why? You know the American sport-loving public likes the fellow who carries the wallop. It is so in golf,in boxing, and in various other sports. It would naturally be that way in baseball. The fellow who can pound the ball is always the fellow that will win the hearts of the bleachers. He gets their affections. Cobb, brilliant as he is, appeals to only a portion of baseball followers. Cobb is the idol of the students of baseball, but all those interested in the game are not students; most of them miss the fine points, the inner dope. Cobb cannot

be fully appreciated unless you are a student of baseball. If you have made a close study of the game, Cobb is a marvel to you and there is no one near him. There is but one Cobb. But Ruth appeals to everybody. No matter how much of a novice atbaseball a man may be, he will appreciate Ruth, for Ruth busts that ball and as I remarked they like the fellow who busts them. So, while Cobb appealed to only a few, comparatively, who could fully understand and appreciate his finesse, Ruth appeals toeverybody. They all flock to see him." (The Sporting News, August 12, 1920, pp. 3, column 5) (Above conversation occurred between Huggins & Detroit sp. ed. Harry Salsinger when Yankees visited Detroit in Aug.,'20 for series with Tigers.)1929 - "It took him nearly two seconds to name his outfield--Ty Cobb. Tris Speaker and Babe Ruth. Who could hope to compete with a set of outfielders like that?" He asked. "Cobb, of course, has first call as the greatest all round man in the trio."

1929 - Barrow selected his 5 Greatest Ever Players. 1. Wagner, 2. Cobb, 3. Lajoie, 4. Ruth, 5. Speaker (Sporting News, Feb. 28, 1929, pp. 4, column 6) Confirmed order in his autobiography (My Fifty Years In Baseball by Ed Barrow, 1951, pp. 33)1951 - "Hans Wagner is the greatest ballplayer of all time. The Flying Dutchman stands alone. Babe Ruth was the game's greatest personality, and its greatest home run hitter. Ty Cobb was the greatest of the hitters and the only man I ever saw who could unnerve a whole ball club single-handed, though I have always had a tremendous admiration for Larry Lajoie and consider him only a step behind Cobb as the greatest batsman of them all. But there is no question that Wagner was the greatest

1951 - "When I saw Cobb at the gathering of old-timers for the seventy-fifth anniversary party of the National League, he was a reserved and poised man of sixty-five, somewhat mellowed by the years. But the vision of him running wild on the bases,harassing the pitchers, taunting the catchers, and announcing boldly he was going to steal second on the next pitch, fighting, clawing, and generally throwing the whole other side into confusion, can never be erased from the minds of those who saw himthrough the many years of his greatness. He was the man of a half century. I doubt that baseball will ever see his like again." (My Fifty Years in Baseball by Edward Grant Barrow with James M. Kahn, 1951, pp. 194)1939 - "Pennock said it was foolish to say that the Yankees of 1938 or 1937 were tops. The best club, he emphasized, was New York of 1927, for which he pitched. .Bill Dickey, Pennock said, is the greatest catcher of all time. Walter Johnson and Lefty Grove were, in his book, the best pitchers. The greatest natural hitter was Joe Jackson, he believes, but as the greatest hitter for results, he chooses Ty Cobb. Ruth, he added, was No. 2 in his list of natural hitters. Cobb, said Herb, made himself

1945 - "The greatest hitters in the past three decades--and by that reference, is not meant the most spectacular, like Ruth, but the most consistent, like Ty Cobb, Paul Waner, Joe Sewell, Whitey Witt, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial--were allmen who took a short stride. . . It was almost impossible to fool Sewell. He leveled his bat with the skill of a machine gunner and popped the pitches to left and right, depending on where the ball was thrown.

1977 - "There are three of them it's awfully hard to judge between: Williams, Jackson, and Cobb. I'd say that Cobb was the greatest all-around player I ever saw, and the smartest. He studied everything. He'd get to know how you were trying to pitchhim, and he'd shift his feet accordingly. If he knew you were watching his feet, he'd wait until the very last second before he did it. And if you did manage to fool him with a pitch, then he was quick enough up there to bunt at you and beat it out.

1929 - One of the finest tributes to Cobb's genius came from a ball player, a star himself, Everett Scott: "He is the only man in baseball who ever gave me a thrill. In retiring from the game I'll carry one picture with me always, Cobb tearing down the

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base line. If I live to be 100 I'll never see a more fascinating picture than he made. He was a cyclone, a tornado, a typhoon all rolled into one." (Jan.19,1929 - Joe Williams Baseball Reader by Peter Williams, 1989, pp. 17)

1961 - "Even if a player didn't like Ty Cobb, he had to admit the Georgia Peach was great, says Stan Coveleski, who was an American League pitcher('16-28) during Ty's prime. I personally liked Cobb," said the 72-year-old Coveleski. "A lot of theplayers didn't, however. But no one could say he wasn't great. You had to see him to believe one man could be that good. "In the outfield he was terrific. And he got on base so much that he drove the pitchers and catchers crazy trying to catch him.

1934 - "The most flashy ballplayer I ever was, or ever hope to see, was Ty Cobb. Ty was certainly endowed with amazing mechanical abilities. He was fast as chain lightening , had an uncanny knack of making a quick start, was a good batter and anatural base-runner. Mechanically, Cobb would have been a great player, one of the leading dozen of his day. But Cobb's rise to greatness was due to headwork. He was always a keen student of baseball. He was a past master of player psychology. He wasresourceful, audacious and tricky. He became one of the smartest players who ever lived. And it was his baseball smartness, coupled with speed of foot and other mechanical gifts, that made him the most sensational player in the history of the game." Ty Cobb was, undoubtedly, the smartest batter who ever lived. Ty was a left-hander, and like most left-handers, hit hardest to right field. Ty, nevertheless, generally hit toward left field. That was because he played the percentages. He could beatout an infield hit to shortstop. An infield grounder to second base would catch him at first." (Baseball Magazine, February, 1934, pp. 400, 426, "The Mental Side of Baseball, interview with Muddy Ruel, pp. 399-400, 426)1983 - "Ty Cobb. He was a great ballplayer," said Sewell. "He was just my idol. He was the greatest baseball player I've seen in the major leagues from the 1920s to the present day. Yes, Ty Cobb is the greatest ballplayer I've seen yet. I've played

with Babe Ruth and roomed with Lou Gehrig, seen Tris Speaker, George Sisler, and a lot of those great players…DiMaggio, Willie Mays, but Ty Cobb could do more things, and do more things to beat ya. . . . "Overall, Ty Cobb could do so many things to beatya. He was fast, a great outfielder, great hitter, and he was highly intelligent. Don't forget that." (Baseball Digest, December, 1983, pp. 28-31, "Hall of Famers Recall Their Boyhood Idols", by Joan Culkin)1961 - "But Ty and I later reviewed it often and became great friends in late years. I respected him. He was a tough baby on the field. Don't think that he couldn't play the game better than any other man." Baker said without qualification Cobb was

the outstanding player of all time, even putting him ahead of Babe Ruth for complete ability. . . He was hot-headed in a game and possibly he was misunderstood," added Baker. "I don't think Ty was a mean man, just that he was reckless on the bases andcame into you like a ton of bricks. .I just never saw a man demand as much attention by the other team. There was Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio and now Mantle. All great players but they didn't get the attention Cobb got from the other teams.

1942 - "He wasn't the slugger that Babe Ruth was, but he could do everything else." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the

1944 - "I guess I was lucky," interjected Roger Peckinpaugh. "I don't know how many times I tagged Ty out at second base, yet he never so much as spiked me. On his slide to second, he'd usually throw his feet out toward center field, and try to grabthe base with his hand. I'll never forget the feeling, though--just knowing that guy was taking that big lead off first and would be coming at me any second." (Sporting News, April 13, 1944, pp. 17, column 4, Inside Pitches column by Galleyproof Gus)1977 - "Cobb was the greatest of all, in my book. In addition to everything else, he was a smart ballplayer. He never had one spot where he stood in the batters box. He stood in different places for different pitchers, according to what they had and

how they pitched him. I never saw another hitter do that. They have one spot and that's it. I'll tell you, they never threw at Cobb very much. If they did, he'd step out and warn them. "Don't do that again," he'd say. And if they did, he would drag a bunt down to first, and if the pitcher covered, Ty would knock him for a loop. So they seldom threw at him. He was a tough monkey, that guy. A real tough monkey. He played a slashing game out there. You could be behind ten runs, and he'd still come

1942 - "He had everything, believe me." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?" 1931 - "I give Wagner first place, he says. "He could do everything and is the greatest I've ever seen. Cobb gets second place with me. Why name more? They stand alone." "But I want five selections, Mr. Burke," I said. "Well, that's a toughassignment. When you get through with Wagner and Cobb, you run into trouble. (Who is Baseball's Greatest Player? by C. William Duncan (The Philadelphia Public Ledger, July 5, 1931, Magazine section, pp. 7)

1942 - "He had the finest coordination I ever saw in a player. Because of his mental and mechanical ability, and his marvelous application of the two, he could do everything exceptionally well." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey)

1942 - "His dash, color, aggressiveness, hitting, and speed on the bases were beautiful to watch." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers.

1942 - "The greatest ball player was Ty Cobb--though none of us was crazy about him when he played. However, you had to admire him for his ability. Once he got on the bases, he had the pitchers up in the air until he got off. There didn't seem to beanything that he couldn't do." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1912 - "Cobb is a dashing player who always takes chances, and exerts himself to the utmost. He plays well within the rules of the game. . . . But I know that he never intentionally injured a player at any time. . . . It is hard to estimate what Cobb'sworth is to the Detroit team. He is its mainstay in batting and base running, and one of its strongest features in defensive work. His wonderful record on the diamond has made him a popular idol throughout the circuits, and I have no doubt that he hasacted as a drawing card in luring many thousands of spectators every season to the games in which he participated. He is a player whom everybody likes to see on the field, for he always does his best. The bleachers are crowded with fans who come to see

him play, expecting something startling, something unusual, and Cobb seldom disappoints them. I believe he was in large measure responsible for the wonderful success of the Detroit team in winning three pennants in succession. . . . In my long career on the diamond, both as player and manager, I have come in contact with most of the leading stars of the game, past and present, and I can say without prejudice, and I believe no one will accuse me of partiality, that I claim for Cobb the distinction ofbeing the greatest player baseball has ever known." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1912, pp. 15-17, How the Greatest Player in the History of the Game Looks to His Own Manager, by Hugh Jennings)

continue coming down for several years and still have the edge on other players. He can continue playing for years and years and still rank on top." (Sporting News, December 4, 1919, pp. 2, column 2, picked up Detroit, Mich., Dec.1-)1920 - "People seem to be fond of comparing George Sisler with Ty Cobb just now. It has become a popular sport, almost a fad. He is, I am informed, a very likable young fellow and his temperament is of the type which never antagonizes or makes

- "Of course, you also realize that in spite of this perceptible slowing up Cobb is still the greatest player in the game today; he is that by long and far. The beauty about him is that he went so high that he can

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enemies. Such a disposition is an admirable one in the business world or in social intercourse. But it has its drawbacks on the diamond. Baseball is far from a parlor sport and while it is lacking, or should be lacing in the blood and bruises which toooften characterize football, it is, nevertheless, a pretty strenuous sport. the domineering, aggressive type of player who runs rough shod over everything between him and his goal is the type which will carry furthest on the diamond. Cobb isdistinctly of that type. He is restless and ambitious and aggressive. He is fair, but he wants all the law allows him. Any advantage which comes his way he will utilize to the full. It is his temperament quite as much as his extraordinary talentswhich has carried him at a tremendous pace through fifteen years of strenuous work. Sisler is entirely different. He is quiet, almost backward in his way. He never seems to court the limelight as Cobb loves to do. He evidently hasn't the knack of

pushing himself forward. He depends entirely upon his marvelous ability and strict application to business. A very worthy ideal, but unless he changes somewhat, or uncovers talents to outshine those of Cobb, if such a thing be possible, I doubt if hewill ever be Cobb's equal as a personality on the diamond. After all, it is color quite as much as anything else which attracts the public to a player. Cobb has a lot of vivid color. Sisler has little. Cobb has that about him which makes him a greatdrawing card. People admire Sisler and appreciate his record, but they are hardly thrilled by his exploits as Cobb used to sway the audience. In short, Cobb outclasses Sisler in his direct appeal to the public. . . .Personally I am inclined to believethat he is good as Cobb in natural ability as a hitter. And he seems to be making the best use of his natural ability on the bases. Sisler is just as fast as Cobb in his prime, and he is certainly not lacking in intelligence. But I doubt if he willever be Cobb's equal as a base runner. Cobb has developed a slide into the bag which no modern player can equal. The only men I ever saw in my experience who could approach it were Joe Kelly and Wild Bill Dahlen. Cobb's base running is not altogether amatter of speed or knack or even brains, though he uses all three. His slide easily puts him is a class by himself. It is more than a fall away slide, although it is generally called that. He throws himself away from the baseman and around him,catching the bag with his toe or his hand. This is a stunt for a contortionist. It has caused endless arguments in the stand when Cobb has seemed to be out at second or third while the umpire insisted on calling him safe. Most of the time, at least,he was safe. Other players would have been out, but not Cobb. He had eluded the baseman's groping hand and wriggled back to the bag like an eel. It is certainly a masterpiece, that slippery, baffling slide of Ty's. Sisler has a good slide and is a

finished base runner in every respect, but when you compare him with Cobb, you compare him with a master who has had no equal as a base runner, at least in recent years. Of course, it is impossible to speak of leading stars without mentioning Babe Ruth. Ruth deserves all the notice he has been getting. He is the king of sluggers. And the public likes sluggers. A slugging team like the Yankees will always be a drawing card. In the long run, however, it isn't slugging so much as other things which winpennants and it isn't slugging which sticks in the public memory. . . . Slugging will always appeal to the crowd because it is so obvious. If a batter knocks the ball over the fence you can see it go. That is Ruth's favorite stunt. Of course, the man

has uncommon batting ability, but after all, it is the beef that does it. Let a brainy player, however, like Eddie Foster engineer a hit and run play that would win the game equally well, and the fine details of that play would be lost on the crowd.Baseball ,at least baseball popularity, is a fine example of the old adage, "Seeing is believing." (Baseball Magazine, March, 1921, pp. 468, interview with Hugh Jennings before he had resigned with the Detroit Tigers, in late 1920.1921 - "They can laud Babe Ruth to the skies", he said, "but there will never be another Ty Cobb. He is the greatest man who ever played baseball, and I believe that today he is just as valuable to a team as Ruth. He may not clout them as far, but he

1925 - "In Cobb we have the most temperamental and also the greatest of all ball players . . .Cobb was a law unto himself and by being permitted to work our all his own plays and plans unhampered by any managerial restrictions that others players were

1915 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest player in baseball," Bill Donovan has been quoted as saying. "He is in a class by himself. I have seen all the stars in my time, but there's nobody in Cob's class when it comes to hitting, fielding, and base running. He

is the quickest thinker in the game and is a wonder at figuring out plays before they are made. When Cobb hits the ball he sees at a glance just how far he can run around the bases. He times his arrival at a certain bag to the fraction of a second. He

(Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1919 - "Ty Cobb is undoubtedly the greatest player in the world, but he has been with Detroit for many years since that club won its last pennant." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1919, pp. 209, "Examples of a One Man Team, by Ralph T. Works, pp. 209-210)

1937 - "Cobb and I have since become the best of friends, and I regard him as the greatest all-round player that ever lived. The greatest batter of 'em all was Joe Jackson; the greatest fielder, Tris Speaker, but Cobb could do so many things neither

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1982- "I got along fine with Cobb. I'll tell you, to me he was the greatest all-around player who ever lived. He did everything--run, hit, field. . . Imagine hitting .367 lifetime! . . . If Cobb was playing today with that artificial grass, they'd never get him out. As a manager, Cobb was all right. . . See that green chair and TV over there? I watch games all the time." (Cobb Would Have Caught It, by Richard Bak, 1991, pp. 147-148. Interview with Richard Bak, July, 1982)

(Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1937 - He spent many years with the detroit tigers as first string catcher and regards Ty Cob as the greatest player of all time. (Los Angeles Times, May 26, 1937, pp. A13, "Johnny Bassler Likely to Make Good as New Boss of Seatte Club After Succeeding

1975 - "Try not to get out of a game without a hit." That's one of the things he tried to impress upon me: Never give up. No matter what the score is, no matter what the situation. Always try harder and harder to get that base hit. That's what he

2004 - I wrote Mrs. Josephine Gehringer, Charlie's widow, to ask her who her late husband had considered the best ballplayer ever. and she wrote me back this very nice reply. "Dear Bill - In Charlie's opinion, he said Ty Cobb was the best all around

player. He was manager of the Detroit Tigers at one time and took a liking to him and game him hitting instructions. He always said he played in the best era, 30 & 40 with players hitting 300 or better. He played against Ted Williams, Ruth, Gehrig and

1942 - "He loved to win." (The Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1961 - "Personally, he was hard to get along with. We didn't get along too well, but I've got to give it to him: I just can't envision anybody in baseball ever being as great. He had no weakness, unless you consider his throwing in the later years.

1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

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That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical. (Baseball Magazine, Jan., 1930, pp. 366)1949 - "He was, of course, supreme." (Sporting News, April 9, 1949, pp. 14, column 2, "In One Lesson, Neun Explains Stealing is Not Only Objective", by Joe Williams, of the New York World -Telegram)

1931 - "When an infielder doesn't give the runner a piece of the bag to get into, he deserves to be spiked. Ty Cob taught me that. Many people thought that Ty was always going out of his way to spike players. I played with him and knew him well. Ty just demanded his rights and when his rivals wouldn't give them to him he fought for them, and how! And speaking of Cob, there was the greatest ballplayer of all time. He could do everything well and what a fighter he was. He was greatlymisunderstood, however. Burns says the greatest pitcher the game has produced was Walter Johnson. There was a real man as well as a pitcher. (Los Angeles Times, May 24, 1931, pp. F4, "Burns Makes Hit As Mission Pilot, by Bob Ray)1939 - "Unquestionably, the greatest ball player who ever lived - by far. And he would have been a great banker, an outstanding industrialist, a famous general, or a potent figure in any field he chose. No other man I've ever known had Ty Cobb's

1947 - "Cobb never hit more than 12 home runs in any single season, but he was the greatest ball player who ever stepped on a field." (Sporting News, Apr. 30, 1947, pp. 8, column 1, "Too Much Brawn, Not Enough Brain, Heilmann Answer to Low Bat Marks")1982 - "but I got attached to the playing of Ty Cobb. And I don't know, but he just stood for my hero. I was just crazy about Ty Cobb, I was just crazy about that man. I looked up to that fella. I still got his picture in my den here. It's a funny

thing. The opposition hated Cobb. I mean, he was a hustler and he'd spike you to get that base. A lot of the players on that Detroit club didn't like him because he was tough. Harry Heilmann didn't think much of him, and neither did Ken Holloway or George Dauss. But me and Cobb always got along great. Always did. I thought a lot of him and he thought a lot of me. Cobb didn't hit home runs hardly at all. Doubles now and then, but mostly singles. He aimed for the pitcher's box all the time.He's the hustlingest player of all time. There's never been another since him, though Pete Rose is close to him. I can't complain about Cobb one bit. He was real nice to me. As a manager, Ty did the best he could. Cobb knew his job, which was

1970 - But, As Cole says, he got along better with Cobb than most. He discounts the stories about Cobb's being penurious, mean and selfish. "Cobb wasn't inherently mean or really stingy. He was just fanatical about winning. When he won, nothing was too good for us. There was steak for everybody. When we lost, he wouldn't even give you conversation. . ."He could also have been a home run hitter. He was big and strong enough. But he actually enjoyed outsmarting rather than over-powering opponents.He was virtually impossible to get out with a runner on first if the first baseman was holding the runner. He could hit it through that little extra hole almost every time. I'll bet he hit .500 in those situations. . . .And a lot of people think he did it all on brains and guts. But he had great speed. He was once timed -- in a baseball uniform at 9.9 in a 100 yard sprint. . . . When I broke in, he and Harry Heilmann were having a helluva race for the batting title, and suddenly Harry went into amonth-long slump. "Ty had Harry off in the corner of the park everyday for hours before each game trying to figure out ways to break him out of that slump. Well, Ty was a tremendous batting instructor, and he pulled Harry out of it." That was the year

1932-33 - "Cobb," he says, "was a natural coach. He took an interest in other players who were willing to listen to him, and was always dropping hints on how they stood at bat, their swing and the way they gripped the handle of their bats.He was a keen

observer and understood more of the true science of batting than any other player. No doubt he helped me from time to time, and that is important. But that is as far as I would care to go with any coach. The best he can do is to help. What a playerdoes is his own affair. He stands or falls on his own efforts. Cobb was the best teacher of hitting that I have ever known, and others agree with me in that opinion. But I can not believe that Cobb or anyone else could ever teach a mediocre hitter how

1969 - "I'd take Cobb over Ruth," declared Heinie Manush. "Why? Because although Ruth could beat you with one swish of his bat, Cobb could beat you several ways. He might only single, but it didn't take him long to come all the way around."

1942 - "He went out and made his own breaks. He was a battler ." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player

1961 - "The burning desire to excel. That was Ty Cobb, the greatest ball player who ever lived." Upset by a magazine writer's(Alvin Stump) bitter presentation of Cobb's last days,Baker wanted to go on record that "there wasn't a mean bone in Ty's body."Cobb had a fiery temper, sure. And there was that overpowering urge to win that brought him into violent contact with opponents and sometimes teammates. But always there was an underlying decency that quickly brought praise and kind words after he had

chewed you out. That even prompted him to help recruits quietly in a day and time in baseball when they got little assistance in winning away jobs from old regulars. There'll never be another Cobb, Anybody who saw him or knew him will agree with that."

1931 - Dan Howley, manager of the Cincinnati Reds and former leader of the St. Louis Browns and 1926 pennant-winning Toronto Leafs in the International League is another Cobb admirer. "Ty first without a doubt," he said. "No one ever approached him. I'll give Wagner second and that's all I'll name. I think Al Simmons is the best ball player in the game right now. I might name Al, but what about Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Babe Ruth and Bill Terry among

1929 - "And, as for playing ability," Haney went on, "any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, Fred finished up, "he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't have

1964 - "Tyrus Raymond Cobb was the greatest ballplayer of them all. What he possessed, and to a superlative degree, was determination. I was a rookie with the 1922 Detroit team for which Cobb was player and manager. He had always been my idol; now I had a chance to observe him first-hand. Sitting on the bench, I would pull my cap down over my face and use one of the eyelets as a telescope, narrowing my vision so that I saw Cobb and Cobb alone. What a sight he was as he prepared to bat! The muscles of his jaw tensed; his bright blue eyes began to blaze; his forehead furrowed into an intense frown. He was working himself into a fury--a fierce determination to dominate the pitcher, to hit the ball. By the time he stepped into the batter's box, you

could almost see sparks in the air. He dared them all; and one way or another, he hit them all. He drove infielders crazy. He tried to excel at everything he did. Cobb was determined to be the best of them all, and he was. Most of the records that he

1964 - Yep, I played during the years when Cobb was in his prime, and I was a shortstop. But I never had any trouble with Cobb and those spikes of his. Got it in the glove and threw it down to the base. That's all. Went over to Detroit with him as a coach for a few years after I got through playing with Washington. Some say as he was a dirty ballplayer, but I say he was a good hard ballplayer. There are some players who didn't like him, but you know he was a ballplayer's ballplayer. He hustled outthere. I think he was as fast as anybody, from home to home. I mean, all the way around. Good strong arm. Baserunner…oh, boy. He'd steal on those pitchers. 'Course I played with Honus Wagner, too. He was a great ballplayer. Awkward, but he hadeverything. Good legs, big hands. Cobb was a different type. Cobb was a harder ballplayer than Wagner. I think Cobb was the best I ever saw, really. "Course Ruth was another type. He was a great pitcher. I hit against him, and he was a great

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1932 - "Ty Cobb," said Cochrane, "Growing up around Boston, I saw all the big leaguers and right from the start Ty was my hero. I went to as many ball games as I could and you may be sure I never missed one when the Tigers came to town if I possiblycould help it. I became acquainted with him when I broke in with the Athletics and later, when he came over to our club, that acquaintance developed into a real friendship. If he were playing ball today he'd still be my hero, which is thetip-off on how he registered with me." (Literary Digest, Jan. 1932, In answer to question, "Who was your baseball hero?" (Also appeared in Baseball Magazine, May, 1931, pp. 347, by Frank Graham)1942 - "He had everything that goes to make up a great ball player." (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball

1928 - "People have wondered if Ty Cobb's presence in the outfield didn't help me with my batting last year. Ty is a great hitter and he understands batting. Besides, he is always ready to give advice. I'll say for Ty that he could give anybody a fewhints that would be worth while. I didn't change my batting style to any extent last season, although Ty did persuade me to alter my stance in the batter's box against some left handed pitchers. This suggestion of his proved helpful. (Baseball

1942 - "I never expect to see another player like him." (Sporting News,April 2,1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "Many folks have asked me if Ty Cobb helped me in 1927 and 1928, when he was with us. The answer is definitely, "Yes." Ty had the championship attitude, if anyone ever had. He gave me many valuable pointers. He was an inspiration." (Sporting

1944 - "Ty Cobb helped me when he came to the Athletics years ago and I was just a kid," Simmons said. "He taught me to crouch a little and bend over the plate, with my arms away from my body. In that position I learned to follow the ball from theGuide stance would hurt my power. Connie Mack must have felt that way, too, because he let me alone. So, although Tyrus Raymond Cobb made me over above the waist, I didn't change below it. And I'm very glad I didn't." (Baseball Magazine, Sept., 1944)

1961 - "He hated to lose. He wanted to lead the league in hitting every year. He loved to hit and he loved to slide. The skin of his legs and hips was always raw." (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 18, 1961)1942 - "He may not have been a great fielder, but he could hold up his end." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest

1931 - "Ty Cobb is the greatest ball player I ever saw. Wagner is next. That's all I want to pick. Go see Connie Mack and find out what he says."(Philadelphia Ledger newspaper, C. William Duncan, late July, 1931) (Survey asked 12 major league managers

1931 - On his seventieth birthday (Dec. 22, 1931), named Cobb as the greatest. "Ty Cobb was the greatest player of all, and there never was a pitcher to compare to Christy Mathewson. Of those two I am certain. You can argue about the rest."(New York Times, December 24, 1931, pp. 21, "Connie Mack, Entering his 70th Year, Impressed By Evenness Of Competition In Big Leagues", Picked up story by Associated Press, from Philadelphia, Dec. 23)1938 - Ty Cobb was by far the greatest player of all time," the venerable Connie told me. "He was in a class by himself. In saying this, it is not because Ty was an American League player. I have seen many great players in the National League--Wagner,Mathewson and Lajoie, who later came over to our league, also those earlier players, Buck Ewing, King Kelly, Cap Anson and many others. In our league, we have had Speaker, Eddie Collins, Ruth, Gehrig, Al Simmons,Cochrane and Gehringer, all of them stars,

yet Cobb stood far ahead of them all. Ruth, of course, was a wonderful showman, but so was Cobb. Cobb was somewhat earlier and played his greatest ball before the big stands were built in New York, Chicago and Detroit, However, he gave the crowd as much of an electric thrill by his daring and skillful base-running as Ruth did with a drive over the fence. In fact, Cobb was a show every minute he was on the field. Besides being the game's greatest hitter, there never was any telling what he would do-bunt, hit behind the runner or try for distance. He was a firebrand, but he could bring out the crowds, just as Ruth did later on. Those spikings never were intentional; they never left any feeling on my part and I am glad to say this remarkable

Undated - I once read that Connie Mack had once said, "Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb were the two greatest ballplayers who ever lived." That is one of the most intellectually dishonest and DELIBERATELY misleading statements ever written. It implied that Connie, after a lifetime of pristine support of Ty as the Greatest Player, had muddied the waters and elevated Babe to a par with Ty in his opinion. Nothing could have been further from the truth. This little piece by Dan Daniel, NY spwr. comes the closest to being where such a prejudiced, partisan belief could have come from. Writes Dan Daniel, NY spwr. in Baseball Magazine in the '40's, (Connie Mack still will tell you that the greatest all around player was Ty Cobb. "Split the laurels," pleads

1947 - Connie Mac unhesitatingly and unqualifiedly picks Ty Cobb as the greatest baseballer of all time..."Ty Cobb outclassed them all," Mr. Mack opined. "After Cobb, you had to go a long ways down before you reach the rest. Cobb was everything. He batted

His achievements were all the more remarkable when you realize that everybody was gunning for him. His fiery disposition and his ruthlessness in running the bases -- his motto was, "The base paths belong to me!" -- made him enemies galore. But he took on baseball singlehandedly and won. Incidentally, Ty told me in later years that if he had it to do all over again the he would make friends instead of enemies in the game. But I'll bet that with the first crack of the

the Old Man of Shibe Park. "Ruth, the most popular, Ty the marvel at the plate, on the bases." Alas, Connie had NOT muddied the waters! But it was obvious how such a deceptively worded statement was INTENDED to mislead following generations.

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1950 - I am not taking issue with the sports writers, neither do I dispute their reasons for selecting Babe Ruth over Ty Cobb as the greatest baseball player in the last fifty years. But for my money, Cobb was the greatest who ever lived and we maynever again see his equal. Ruth was a great gate attraction, no doubt the most outstanding crowd pleaser, but based on a player's value to his team alone, the honor must go to Ty Cobb. Cobb was the greatest competitor I ever saw, a fiery and fearless player. Winning and winning alone was all Cobb ever thought of and never gave his own personal safety much concern. Never have I seen a player so intent on winning that he would bring harm to himself if it was necessary. Certainly, Ruth hit the homeruns and glamorized the game, but Cobb's record in winning the batting championship nine straight years, missing a year and then coming back to win it the next three, is one of the outstanding feats of baseball. This was the controversy at the close of

the first half of the twentieth century. Everyone knows what I think of Ty Cobb, for I talk about him every chance I get. I don't think anyone has ever surpassed him as an all-round player, either in fielding, hitting or base running. I'd like to put Tris Speaker up in that top rank too. Tris was everywhere in the outfield; he could grab a ball up against the fence and net a ball off his shoes directly behind second base". (My 66 Years In the big Leagues by Connie Mack, 1950, pp. 40)

1926 - "If he had an aggressive temperament like Ty Cobb, there'd be no question. Bur how many Cobbs have there been? Just one, to the best of my recollection. And don't overlook one thing. It was Cobb's driving, untiring persistence that got him where he is. Without that spirit he would have been just a good ball player. With it, he became baseball's greatest star. Ty Cobb, in his prime, simply wouldn't acknowledge defeat. He wouldn't even admit discouragement. No handicaps could even delay him on his course. He would struggle to overcome defects in his own playing style. He would fight players on his own club, players on opposing clubs and the crowd that rode him unmercifully, and thrive while he was doing all this. There are not too

1942 - "He was not only a great ball player, but he disrupted the other team's morale by the chances he took and usually got away with. Once he got on the bases, I would rather give him credit for a run than let him get around the bases and cause

(Thomas, continued), (The Sporting News, April 2,1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"

1910 - "The greatest ball player of all time? That question would have been a poser three years ago, and may appear so to a good many people now, for there probably are more differences of opinion about the relative merits of exponents of the greatest game in the world than about anything else one can think of. But in my opinion no fair-minded follower of baseball, who has seen the great players in action and who has studied their strong and weak points, can come to any conclusion other than the one I have arrived at--that Ty Cobb, right fielder of the Detroit American League Club, is the real answer to the above query. I take it that the answer should mean the greatest all-around ability, the one most valuable to his team, and not the one mostproficient in any single position. There might be ground for argument if I were to say I selected Cobb because he was better as a right fielder than Wagner was as a shortstop or Lajoie or Evers as a second baseman. I pick the Detroit man because he is, in my judgment, the most expert man of his profession and is able to respond better than any other player to any demand made on him. I pick him because he plays ball with his whole anatomy--his head, his arms, his hands, his legs, his feet--and because he plays ball all the time for all that is in him. Why is Cobb a great ball player? The first and most important reason is that he loves the game. I never have seen a man who had his heart more centered in a sport than Cobb has when he is playing.There never was a really good ball player who didn't think more of baseball than he did of his salary or the applause of the fans. Cobb, being a bright young man, naturally wants to be paid, and is paid what he is worth in his profession. Furthermore,

he probably has no objection to commendation from the people watching him; many ball players deny they care anything for the cheers of the crowd, and few take any stock in these denials. But I believe Cobb would continue to play ball if he werecharged something for the privilege, and if the only spectator were the groundskeeper. In considering Cobb's baseball excellence it is only natural to think first of his batting, for batting is the part of the sport that appeals most to the big majority.After his record of last season I believe the statement that he is the best hitter of to-day is indisputable. Averages tell a good deal about a man's ability to hit, and the mark of .377 hung up by the Detroit man in 1909, cannot be overlooked. It would be folly for me to discuss the relative pitching strength of the National and American Leagues, for I have not seen any National League pitching aside from that in our world's series of 1906 and the city series. But I will say that any man who can hit at that figure against present-day pitching in either big league is nothing short of a marvel. When Cobb first joined the Detroit Club word went around that he, like most of the rest of his craft, had his weaknesses at bat. It was noised about thata left-hander could "make him look foolish." And it was true that Cobb was not as strong at first against the southpaws as he was against the right-handers. But ask the left-handers about it now. They will tell you that he is anything but a toy intheir hands at present. The fact of the matter is that Cobb has overcome his dislike for that style of pitching, and is as effective against it now as against the other kind. Cobb is not an in and outer, although he, like all of us, has his slumps.With him they never last long, and are so infrequent that none of his opponents ever is counting on one of them. Cobb is dangerous at all times, and a pitcher working against him knows he must pitch his hardest, and never let up until the Georgian eitherhas been retired or has added another hit to his long list. Cobb hits when hits are needed and when they are not needed. He is as strong in a pinch as any one, besides being able to hit the ball further away than the majority of "clean-up" hitters.Moreover, he hits in all directions, some of his extra base drives going down the left foul line, some of them down the right, some of them to right center, some of them to center, some to left center; in fact, in all directions. In addition to his

ability to tire out the fielders with his long smashes Cobb is one of the most expert of bunters, and of course, his speed makes him doubly effective in this particular accomplishment. With a runner or two on the bases, and Ty at bat, he has the entire opposing infield at sea. No faint-hearted third baseman could live through a series against the Detroit Club. Cobb may "look"the bunter all over when a bunt is expected to advance a baserunner, and may draw the third baseman in, confident that the ballwill be laid down, and then make him call on all his dodging ability to get out of the way of a terrific smash right at him. I don't blame infielders for being "crossed" by Cobb. He has the head to fool them and the ability to carry out his schemes.Although the left handers have been convinced that they are no more effective against him than their right-handed brothers, the latter still have some ideas about his "weak spot," and these ideas are almost as many as are the pitchers. But everylittle while a pitcher will serve up one of the things Cobb "can't hit," only to see it soaring over the fence or toward it. Another common fallacy, when Cobb was first served in the American League, was that he was a "fool" on the bases; that he "ranwild." There has been a reversal of this verdict, too. Undoubtedly, Cobb has pulled off some base running "crimes," but it was not because of lack of baseball sense, but rather because he loved to run and just couldn't hold himself in. If any one hadkept track of Cobb's successes and failures in his "crazy" base running stunts I am sure he would have found that the former far outnumbered the latter. And I also am sure that his "crazy" running has won a lot of ball games for Detroit. There may beball players who can run a hundred yards as fast as the Georgian, but there is none who can go from the plate to first base as fast, and none who can equal his speed between any two bases or around the whole circuit. . . . Now, I want to say something

about this spiking business. Don't ever let any one tell you that Cobb purposely spikes basemen. He is too good a sportsman for anything like that, and that he is a sportsman was proved by his letter on the spike question to President Johnson of theAmerican League. he was willing to have the spikes dulled, although he knew that such action would slow him up in his play. Cobb slides to a base with the intention of getting there, and getting there safely. He doesn't take any more space on the baselines than is coming to him. To be sure, he never refuses to slide simply because the basemen is in his way, but he would not be a successful baserunner if he slacked up to avoid a possible collision with an awkward fielder or on some unusual play.

Besides, Cobb is taking even more chances in his daring slides than is the man waiting to tag him. One of the most important assets of the great ball player is possessed by Cobb to a wonderful degree. This is nerve. He is not afraid of any pitching,and it seems to delight him to be in a pinch, with his team's fate hanging in the balance. Cobb is a better ball player today than he was two years ago. He will be a better ball player this year than he was last. This is because he is a student. He iswilling to learn something new about baseball every day of his life, and he is willing to be shown his faults and told about his mistakes. Of these latter he makes far less now than he did when he first broke into fast company. He has had good teachers and good examples, and he has not failed to take advantage of his opportunities to cram baseball knowledge into his head. This is a day of great ball players, and there are many who could be named in the same breath with Cobb without disgracing the

1919 - "Personally I think Ty Cobb of the Detroit team is the greatest player of all time. This is no disparagement to others. Ty is in a class by himself. He is a wonderful batter and would have been able to hit any kind of pitching in the old days

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as well. He is one of the speediest men in the game. He is as good a fielder as one would want, but above all he is a thinker when in the game. His mind works every minute and he carries the team along with him." (Commy by Gustav Axelson, 1919)? Charles Comiskey told Joe Vila of the New York Sun: "Baseball has changed a lot since I was a player. In my day it wasn't necessary to specialize in all departments of baseball, but Cobb could do everything. He could hook, slide to either side, field with the best in the game, had a great throwing arm, could hit all kinds of pitching either by slugging or bunting and was the greatest and smartest base runner that ever wore spikes. . . . I have won pennants and world championships, but thegreatest and only disappointment of my life in baseball was that Cobb didn't play for me. I often pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him, but in vain. I would have paid anything to get him." (History of Baseball, by Joe Reichler & Allison

1930 - "The greatest player I ever saw? he queried, leaning forward to emphasize the question. "that's easy," he replied, and then without hesitation, he snapped. "That's easy! My choice is Ty Cobb!" . . . but when we get down the fine points ofthis game and weigh the various angles, there is none to equal Cobb. I'm serious when I say that. . . . Cobb could do everything. . . . I may be wearing myself out," he said, "But when I start talking about that fellow I can't quit. . . Cobb beat us. Scoring from second base on an outfield fly or an infield grounder. Cobb frequently upset and rattled our team as he helped beat my boys out of three pennants. . .and while I watched his play from my seat in the grandstand I could see that he threw fearinto the opposition. That's what made him a great ball player." "What's up now? I asked him. "I've won pennants and World's Series," he replied, "but do you know what I consider the greatest and only disappointment of my career? Well, I'll tell you - it was really the fact Ty Cobb did not play for Commy." I could readily understand Comiskey's slant. He had not tried to conquer the word. He simply regretted that this greatest ball player of all time was not a member of his Chicago White Sox."Cobb," he mumbled softly. "He should have been with my White Sox. I had Callahan, Jones, Griffith, Donohue, Isbell, Davis, McFarland, Walsh, Altrock, Jackson, Cicotte, Schalk, Weaver and other stars. But I wanted Cobb. I watched him star for theTigers - a boy who played the game as I did back in the late 70's. Then I pleaded with the Detroit club to put a price on him. I wanted Ty to finish his career with my ball club. I would have paid - well, I'd have paid anything, but they wouldn't sell."

"Ty Cobb - what a ball player!" sighed Comiskey, and then as I noted him slump back in his chair, I, too, regretted that Ty had not started and finished his sparkling career with the White Sox that this grand old man of baseball did not get his cherished

1918 - "But I'll have to admit that Ty Cobb is the smartest ball player I ever saw for scoring runs and doing damage to another team. He's always working for the Tigers, is Ty, and he's a wonder. He's the most spectacular player I ever saw,

1921 - "The two greatest base runners that I ever saw were Bill Lange and Ty Cobb. Bill Lange was the best of the old timers, in my opinion, and Ty Cobb is just as far ahead of the field among modern day base runners. I won't attempt to decide which was the greater, but I have already admitted more than once that Ty Cob was the most brilliant ball player I ever knew. He is slowing up now, of course, but in his prime, he was a wonder." (Baseball Magazine, August, 1921)1942 - "Because he was a hitter, a base-runner, a great fielder and indomitable will to win and the aggressiveness that thrilled those who watched him play." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942,Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters

1933 - The greatest player he ever saw? "I speak merely as a fan, you understand. Cobb was the greatest player I ever saw, and so far as my memory goes, the first player I ever saw. I definitely know he was the first person I ever shook hands with." "What about Ruth? If you had your chance to buy Ruth or Cobb, both at their peak tomorrow, for the Red Sox, which would you take?" "I'm still a fan. I would take Cobb. I like to see Ruth hit the long ones, but nothing has thrilled me more than the

sight of Ty Cobb dashing around the bases, taking chances, outwitting the other side. You could never tell what he was going to do, and it was fine fun trying to figure what he might do next. You don't get that with Ruth." You are not listening to an old timer talk. This is a 30 year old business man, the youngest club owner in the history of baseball. Cobb represents the mauve decades in baseball. Ruth represents the hot cha-cha, and h, ey nonny, nonny, period. I wonder if anybody really knows

1961 - "I have lost a long time friend with the death of Ty Cobb. Much of my early interest in baseball was aroused by meeting and knowing Ty at a very early age and there is no doubt in my mind that he was the greatest all around ball players of all

1952 - Walter O. Briggs' great baseball idol was Ty Cobb. "He was the greatest I ever saw and probably the greatest any of us will ever see," he said. "Babe Ruth hit more home runs, but I don't see how he can be ranked above Cobb. Ruth was the greatest

1952 - "She was following baseball when the Brotherhood operated a team at Broad and Dauphin streets, not far from her girlhood home here. That was in the 1880s, long before there was an American League, before the modern Athletics were even dreamed ofand before she met Tom Shibe. Rival players never were villains to Aunt Ida - just "nice boys" in the wrong uniforms - and Ty Cobb she regarded as the greatest of all time, with Babe Ruth the most magnetic. (Sporting News, May 21, 1952, pp. 30, column 2)

1953 - Which reminded me of a brilliant cliché. Who was the greatest ball player he had ever seen? The former umpire looked at me as if the question was not only superfluous but stupid. "Why, Ty Cobb, of course." Then by way of amplification. . ."Hecould beat you so many ways. He could outhit you, outrun you and outthink you. If you needed the tying or winning run in the last inning and he was up it was even money, he'd get it." (Sporting News, 1953, pp. 12, column 3)1954 - As one who saw many great players come & go, Connelly unhesitatingly names Ty Cobb as the greatest all-round player he ever saw, remarking, "He could beat you so many ways." And in his opinion, Walter Johnson, the "Big Train" of Washington, was

1926 - Ty Cobb, the greatest player of all time, is through as a big leaguer. . . There never has been and probably never will be another player just like Tyrus Raymond Cobb. He could do everything. Didn't have a single weakness. During my 21 yearsyears in the majors I have seen Cobb do everything that it is possible for one player to do on the ball field. There is nothing that Cobb hasn't attempted and succeeded in. (Sporting News, November 18, 1926, pp. 6, column 3)

1942 - " Cobb was the brainy, crafty, sensational performer, who starred in the era of close scores when one run was usually the decisive margin. Ruth starred in the era of swat. Power was his greatest asset, although he had all the other attributes of a great ball player." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why?"1942 - "If there ever was a greater all-around baseball player than Ty Cobb, I have yet to see him. Babe Ruth had more power, Tris Speaker was a greater fielder, Joe DiMaggio has a better arm, but none possessed the all-around finesse of the

(Baseball's Best Batters, by Billy Evans, condensed from Esquire Magazine, reprinted for Baseball Digest, August, 1942, pp. 55-61)(Cobb, Ruth, Keeler, Gehrig, Wagner, Hornsby, Speaker, Collins, Sisler, Lajoie, Jackson, DiMaggio, Williams)1930 - Although a generous crop of rookies have made their appearance in the major leagues this season, the task of uncovering another Ty Cobb is as futile as ever. Cobb is generally conceded to be the greatest ball player the game has ever produced.

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That he had "everything" is obvious because a weakness in a player is quickly detected, and passed around as common knowledge: but managers and players have never been able to point to a flaw in Cobb's play. For the steenth time I was asked thisquestion the other day: "Do you think the game will ever produce another Cobb?" Frankly, I do not believe that we shall ever see another player equal to Cobb at any future time. The reason is logical.

1956 - The six-foot, 200-pound arbiter rated Ty Cobb the greatest player he ever had seen. "Babe Ruth was good, too," he conceded, "but Ruth was a different type player from Cobb. Ty would fight you to a standstill in a game, but the Babe took things

1961 - "All four--Clarence Rowland, Ray Schalk, Urban (Red) Faber and Emmett (Red) Ormsby--learned about The Georgia Peach at first hand. They were contemporaries of Ty in the American League and spent many a day on the field of battle with baseball's immortal star. All four of these Chicago baseball men agreed that Cobb was the greatest player of all time, and all four agreed that none ever matched his flaming drive for victory. But Schalk had more than admiration for Ty. His was a deep affection.

1962 - "A few years ago, when Ray Schalk was inducted into the Hall of Fame, I had a Talk of more than an hour with Cobb, He was a wonderful fellow to reminisce with. You know, the first time I ever met Ty was when I was a raw recruit at the Quantico Marine Base in Virginia in 1917. I was in the same outfit with his brother, Paul, whom Ty came to visit one day. Paul was a pretty good ball player himself. Paul was an outfielder on the Quantico team and an excellent hitter and I was spitball pitcher.Being a youngster then, I was pop-eyed when I saw the great Ty Cobb. He handled himself modestly enough. I remember that my reaction was that he was a 'good Joe.'" (Sporting News, January 17, 1962, pp. 14, column 4)1961 - "Kid Gleason would butter him up by telling him it was too bad we couldn't get him on our club, and when Ty came to bat, Schalk would butter him up some more," said Rowland. "We kept our bench jockeys subdued, too. Cobb was great enough just

in his normal stride but, if you needled him, he was almost super-human. He was a guy who could beat you all alone, so it was suicide to stimulate him to even greater efforts. Without a doubt, Cobb was the greatest player of all time. . . When I umpired, I never got any squawks from Cobb on balls and strikes. He'd give you a look once in a while and that's all. The only time he ever said anything to me was when I called him out at third base once on a close decision.

1961 - "Ty was in a class by himself," McGowan explained, "He could win a game without swinging a bat, He'd come up swinging five bats, smacking his lips like a tiger and scaring the life out of a pitcher. He'd coax a pass, steal second, third, andhome and beat you, 1 to 0." Ruth, the umpire believes, was the greatest slugger who ever lived. "Even if you take away all his homers and call them singles," he said, "he's still one of the games's all-time greats. Great arm, smart and fast for a big

1950 - "There was only one great player in Bill's book and that was Ty Cobb. To Bill, the Georgia Peach represented everything. They became fast friends," (Sporting News, March 15, 1950, pp. 18, column 2)

1939 - "The greatest player I ever saw was Ty Cobb." (Washington Post, May 2, 1939, pp. 19, "On the Line With Considine", by Dolly Stark) (Regular columnist was on vacation, and guest columnist filled in.)

1929 - "Cobb was the greatest student of the game and psychologist I ever saw," Haney says, "Why, I have seen him sit on the bench, his eyes covered by his cap and call 18 out of 20 pitches a Cleveland hurler threw. I asked him how he did it and his

reply was, 'Well, I've been watching Steve O'Neill catch for quite a good many years now and ought to know what he will call for.' "I figured Cobb as a real manager," Haney continued. "Had he not been he wouldn't have done as well as he did with someof his teams. You see, while Ty was just a player he always had been the 'darling' of the management and this, of course, had made some of the others jealous. What Cobb wanted, he got. So, when he became manager, there was a certain amount of suspiciontoward him. I personally know of many attempts Cobb made to help players out -- veterans who were slipping both professionally and financially, -- but, in each case the player coached by some of the soreheads, would be warned off. On one occasion, Cobboffered to invest $3,000. for a player about to be waived out of the league. The player wanted to accept the generous offer, but some other player, among them one who has since come to disrepute, advised him strongly against it, and he took their advice,only to be sorry later. This talk about his not being for his players was pure bunk, There was nothing he didn't try to do to make everyone happy. As I said, there were those who just wouldn't or couldn't see anything good in Ty. He had his share of

1929 - "And, as for playing ability, any talk of comparing any other star with him is almost ridiculous. Moreover, he could manage a team. All he lacked was the co-operation of some soreheads who wouldn't have co-operated with anybody."

1938 - The new pilot of the Browns regards Ty Cobb as the greatest manager under who he has ever served. "There never was anyone like Ty," declard Fred. "He had everything that it takes to make a great player and manager. The only trouble was that Ty

"Cobb taught me a lot of things, but strangely enough, base-running wasn't included , although Ty was without an equal at the art. In fact, we didn't even have a steal sign on the club. I wondered about this and asked Ty the reason. "'We've got

too many extra-base hitters on this club to emphasize stealing,' Cobb replied. 'I play the percentages on our hitting, instead of stealing, to get the runners around.'" (Sporting News, Nov. 17, 1938, pp. 4, column 4)1961 - "Ty Cobb was a great manager. He took a bunch of punks and finished third in 1922, second in '23 and third in '24, when he should have been deep in the second division. He was a wonderful fellow to play for --if you hustled and did your best

1975 - "Ty never got the credit he deserved as a manager because he never won a pennant and the critics always think you have to win to be great," he said. "Besides, Cobb never had enough good pitching to be a challenger. I played for him on the Tigers for four years, starting as a rookie in 1922 and what I got was an education in advanced baseball. He knew everything about the game and he got more out of his players than they had to give. …I'm proud to say that I batted .352 as a rookie.

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1924 - "The Detroit team, under the able leadership of Ty Cobb, who has proven as good a manager as he was and is, as a player, seems to have the best chance of winning out, as it is not only strong on offense, but has gained greatly in defense through the improvement of the supposedly weak pitching department through the development of Pitchers Stoner, Whitehill, Holloway and Wells. (Sporting News, August 7, 1924, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment)

1923 - "One has to work under Cobb to understand him," said Howley. "As a manager, he was a revelation to me. Cobb has played the outfield all of his life, yet it was uncanny how he could instruct men to play every position on the ball field. There isn't the slightest detail of any department of baseball that he isn't master of. . . I have no personal motive for boosting Cobb," continued the New England Irishman. "I no longer work for the Detroit club: in fact, I took the Toronto job against Cobb'swishes. But I honestly believe Cobb is the greatest manager in baseball. Give him a little more time with that Detroit team and see what he does with it. He advanced it from seventh to third in two years and next season he will make things exceedingly

1929 - "Ty Cobb and I are supposed to be enemies. That might have been true once; but it's not true now. We've had our share of differences, I'll admit. There were times when I couldn't even see Ty's face through the red haze that sprung up between us. I hated to work for him, and I am frank to say I wouldn't like to work for him now. But working for Ty and recognizing his good points on another ball club are two different things. . . There's a pretty general impression, I think, that Cobb wasnot an able manager. It is true he never won a pennant. But now that I'm no longer with the club, I'll go on record that if Connie Mack had managed the Tigers, with John McGraw for his coach and Joe McCarthy for his bat boy, he wouldn't have done any

better than Ty. . . Cobb was not a failure as a manager. He was not a bad manager. In many ways he was a brilliant manager. He knew more baseball than anybody I ever saw. And chain lightning was no faster than the working of Ty's mind. He was always a fighter and he had a fighting ball club. that's what the public wants. He was as full of tricks as a coyote is full of fleas. they weren't parlor tricks, either. Ty was out to win ball games. . . Ty was a great coach. I doubt if his equal has ever lived. . . he did as well, with the material they gave him, as anybody could have done. So why call him a bad manager?. . . Ty never had a good pitching staff. His outfield was bad(defensively), and his infield was worse. As a fielding combination,

the Tigers were like an old sieve. But how those boys could hit and score runs? Ty coached them and he kept them on their toes. They were about as dangerous a team to stop as the New York Yankees. As for pennants, it makes little difference how many runs you score, as long as the other fellow scores more. But I haven't noticed many pennants waving from that old flag pole at Detroit since they gave Ty the gate. He drove the boys up as high as second place one year. They haven't roosted in that

1931 - "We had some hot discussion on pitching science when Ty Cobb was a manager of the Tigers. It's an open secret, or rather no secret at all, that Ty and I didn't hit it off very well. Not that he cared. The personal dislikes of a great manypeople weighted very little with Ty. One thing I'll say for him, if you talked back to him, he respected you more than if you merely kept silent and took everything he handed out. Ty was a fighter himself, and he respected other fighters. Ty was very keen in sizing up batters' weaknesses. Probably no man ever lived with a better eye or a better judgment to detect little mannerisms, preferences and dislikes in opposing hitters. . . . "but Ty was the smartest batter I ever saw. I don't say he was the best. There's a difference. But he certainly was the smartest. . . ."Cobb always worked the psychology of batting to the limit. . . . ."Cross up the pitcher was Ty's batting theory, and he certainly knew how to do it. Ty's record is a conspicuous

1961 - "Reached at a Red Sox tryout camp in Burlington,Vt., Woodall, all choked up over Ty's passing, said: "He was a good manager. He knew his baseball inside out. He anticipated plays far ahead of anyone else. He understood us and realized our

1962 - "Ty Was Terrific Teacher---'You Learned Plenty' : Herman played for Ty Cobb at Detroit and always has maintained that The Georgia Peach was a good manager. "He was a stickler for details, and never overlooked a thing. You paid attention and

1926 - "I have made a persistent study of the pitchers. In this work I have had the advantage of Ty Cobb's coaching. He can detect the batter's weakness quicker than anyone I ever saw. But after all, there is a limit to what any one can teach

1924 - "When Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb was made manager of the Detroit Tigers there was considerable skepticism expressed by the experts as to what he could do with a ball club, says W. O. McGeehan in the New York Herald. The Georgian always was a fiery person and was the center of many a tempest on the diamond. It was pointed out that no man who could not manage himself would make much of a success as a team manager. But nobody can go behind the results. The Tigers under the leadership of Mr. Tyrus

Raymond Cobb are fighting the Yankees for first place. The team has become a wonderful fighting unit. Ostensibly at least the inner workings are quite harmonious, and the Tigers take all of their truculence out on the teams that they meet. All of the misgivings as to Cobb as a manager seem to be without reason. As a matter of fact, Cobb actually has started to look forward to the time when he will be able to quit active playing and devote all of his tremendous energy to managing his team. The timewas when the notion of Cobb as anything but an active player would have seemed impossible. But today the prospect of Cobb becoming a bench manager does not sound so strange. In handling a team Cobb has lost little of that aggressive spirit that alwaysmarked him as a player, On the contrary, he not only has retained that, but seems to have imbued his players with the same sort of spirit. It is only fair that I shall mention the fact that Mr. Tyrus Raymond Cobb is a decided success as a manager,

(P.S. This article was excerpted in Literary Digest, August 1, 1931, under Personal Glimpses, Picking an All-Time Emperor of the Diamond, and it was also referred to in The Life That Ruth Built by Marshall Smelser,1975, pp. 433)

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1920 - Upon hearing the news early during 1920 spring training, that the Yankees planned on using Babe Ruth exclusively as an outfielder, Tris dryly commented, "Sorry to hear that about Ruth. If he had continued his pitching career, he

1930 - When asked for his all-time all-star team, McGraw gladly gave it. He included Wagner, Cobb, Mathewson, Walter Johnson, but said, " I'd include Ruth as a drawing card and a home run hitter, rather than as a player."

1933 - "There, then, is your ideal ball player, made up, I see, of the qualities of exactly nine of the greatest the game has produced--Matty, Evers, Wagner (on two counts), Jennings, Frisch, Kelly, Speaker, Hornsby and Cobb." The Little Napoleon tilted back his office chair, indicating his last word had been said on the perfect baseball player--without a single mention of the game's most glamorous personage, Babe Ruth. "What of the Babe?" I inquired, "Doesn't he fit somewhere in the picture?""Well," answered McGraw, "you can''t compare his fielding with Speaker's, or his throwing with Kelly's, or his speed with Frisch's, and both Hornsby and Cobb were better, if not as hard, hitters. As a gate attraction he, of course, tops them all and undoubtedly he is, with the lively ball in the game, the hardest hitter of the past decade. "But I do not see how Ruth can offer to the composite ideal anything that is not to be found perfectly supplied by those mentioned, especially when you consider

1957 - "Two years ago he picked an all-time American League team. He named Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb and Joe Jackson as his outfield. "What about Babe Ruth?" he was asked. "I wouldn't have Ruth on my teams. He struck out too often," said Sam.

1942 - "Cobb could do everything - bunt, drag hit, run bases, field and think faster than a dozen ordinary ball players. He made no errors of judgment and was a fighter who never heard the word 'quit.' Babe Ruth was the greatest from the standpoint ofdrawing power, but he had many weaknesses." (Sporting News, April 2, 1942, Greatest Player survey) Sporting News mailed out over 100 letters to former ML stars & managers. It asked, "Who do you consider the greatest ball player of all time? Why" 1940 - "I was never greatly impressed by Babe Ruth. He was in a class by himself, but he wasn't in it with Ty Cobb or Tris Speaker. Of course, there were a lot of outfielders who had better throwing arms than Cobb. When you go beyond fielding and his

1930 - "With the Yankees doing badly it was time to put down Babe Ruth, and John B. Foster of the Consolidated Press came through with a finely tuned argument; although Ruth was hitting many home runs, other men were also hitting home runs. If other

Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than third

Perhaps it's because he never lets up--he wants to make a play on every ball pitched. There are a few men who at their climax, can beat him at base running and there are a few others who, at their best, can beat him in certain other points. But Cobbputs something into his play every minute that makes him outrank all others. His brain, his nervous energy are never idle. That's why fellows who play with him think he is the best that ever lived. (Spalding Baseball Guide).

1939 - Jimmy Powers of the New York Daily News observes: "Scout Dick Kinsella picks an All-Time baseball team and leaves off Babe Ruth, (so did Mickey Welch). According to Kinsella: 'Ruth wouldn't have been able to hit fellows like Mathewson,

1940 - Who does Jimmy believe was the greatest player in the majors? None other than Hans Wagner-- for John Henry, in his opinion, had no equal. Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth and the others included. "Ruth wasn't a topnotch player--he was only a hitter."explained Jimmy. "Cobb was a ball of fire and he could do most everything well, but he couldn't compare with Wagner." And Jimmy doesn't think the great double play combination of Tinker to Evers to Chance could hold a candle to the Philadelphia

1937 - "Manager Joe McCarthy of the Yankees has dissipated the belief that a team with Babe Ruth could outdraw any club in the world at the gate," declares Wayne K. Otto of the Chicago Herald-Examiner. "The 1937 Yankees, minus Ruth, but with three ofthe greatest sluggers in the business batting in the three, four and five holes, is on the way to an all-time attendance record. McCarthy concurs in the opinion of most baseball men that Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Dickey are the greatest trio of

1940 - "Joe McCarthy rates Frankie Frisch along with Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker in a classification he prefers to call "perfect players." By that he means players who could hit, steal bases and field in such fashion as to "beat you single-handed."

Ruth and McCarthy almost never saw each other off the field. Each was jealous of the other. Barrow was wholly on McCarthy's side. Where McCarthy thought Frisch was the greatest, Barrow plumped for Honus Wagner. Ruth couldn't finish better than third

1929 - "People have asked me if I didn't consider Babe Ruth the greatest of natural hitters. I certainly do not. There are many times when Babe looks terrible at bat. I've seen him miss a ball by two feet. Nobody ever saw Joe Jackson miss a ball two feet. Babe has his particular specialty where no one can equal him. He can hit a ball harder than anybody who ever lived. But why go outside that specialty and make claims for him that aren't true?" (Baseball Magazine, October, 1929, pp. 487, 488, 517, "The Greatest Players I Ever Saw", by Walter Johnson) (quote apears on pp. 488, 517. Article covers; Waddell, Mathewson, Alexander, Joe Jackson, Ruth, Crawford, Cobb)

1974 - "Nowadays home run hitters are considered great if they hit .270. When I was pitching, I used to love to see those guys come up to the plate who swung from the heels. I'd laugh to myself because I knew I had them. When they swing that hard, they're bound to take their eye off the ball. Tickled me pink to see those guys come up there. It's the guys who came up with their bats choked, like Joe Sewell and Charlie Gehringer, who would give you trouble. Foxx didn't choke up; Simmons didn't.But they didn't cut like they do today. Neither did Ruth. The Babe. We called him the Big Monkey, the Big Baboon. Babe didn't care a hell of a lot for me, you know. The Yankees used to come through Baltimore to play exhibition games, and he knew I

was wild and I didn't give a damn whether I hit him or not; didn't make any difference to me. He quit the game one day. I was wild, and I tore a couple buttons off his shirt. He didn't even go to first base. He just said, "I don't want any of that,"

1923 - "Babe Ruth is unquestionably the greatest drawing card in baseball. The impress of his personality on baseball is the most powerful and dramatic. Whether in success or failure, Babe monopolizes the spot light and he is unquestionably the goldenmagnet of the box office. But is he the greatest player? No, not by the length of many homers. His huge bulk prohibits speed on the bases or in the field. Babe is fast for his size, but that lets him out. Furthermore his fielding at best is fair, if

1930's - "Who is the greatest ball player? It has been said that if you pick the best men the game ever has known, you will find Ty Cobb among the first four in every department of baseball and no man could do everything baseball as well as he.

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1924 - "F. C. Lane, writing in Baseball Magazine, nominated Rogers Hornsby as one who might have enjoyed the most fame if he had had the most press-agentry. . .Comparing Ruth and Hornsby, Lane thought Hornsby the better hitter and more versatile fielder."

1924 - "John A. Heydler, president of the National League, seconded the nomination of Hornsby ( as better than Ruth). As Heydler pointed out, from 1920 through 1923 Hornsby had a higher batting average, more hits, more doubles, more triples. But

1922 - "The recent additional disciplining of Babe Ruth by President Johnson for vile language to Umpire Dinneen, following other suspensions for offenses since his return to the game, has had a temporary quieting effect upon this inflated and ill-disciplined young man, but of the permanence of his reform there must be grave doubt, as his entire career shows that he has not the fundamental character to build real greatness in his chosen profession upon. Ruth has been spoiled by his popularitywith the unthinking part of the public for excellence in one specialty: by the injudicious coddling and exploitation by his club; and by the incessant praise of the metropolitan writers--all of which he has not the brains, training or temperament to bear with becoming modesty or grace. His lack of ability to measure up fully to true greatness has been revealed throughout his career in recent years. When the Boston Club gave him leeway in 1919 for his home run specialty by making him a regular insteadof a pitcher, he broke the long-standing major league individual home run record, but proved such an insubordinate member of the team that Boston was glad to sell him to the New York Club. For that club in 1920 he broke the world's home run record,with the aid of the radical changes in the pitching rules, but the New York team won no pennant--owing largely to Ruth's discouraging effect on team work, though the club profited largely through his attraction as a drawing card. In 1921 he againbettered his world's record and the New York team finally won the pennant, however, not by reason of his home run hitting, but owing to the misfortunes of the Cleveland team; and that it lost the World s Series was largely due to Ruth's failure to

measure up to form and expectation in that classic event. Then came the famous "barnstorming" episode, in which Ruth defied both the laws of the game and Commissioner Landis, for which he drew a five weeks' suspension at the start of the 1922 season-- which marked the beginning of the end for Ruth. That five weeks' suspension was fatal to Ruth for the reason it prevented his proper development in condition and skill which comes only by participation in games; precluded all chance of equaling ormaking a new home run record this season, owing to his manifest decadence in batting; enabled other players to step into the home run picture, and demonstrated conclusively that he was not necessary to the New York team, as it jumped into and maintained

the lead long before Ruth and Meusel rejoined it, and lost the lead not long after these two worthies got into the game, owing to the futility of their batting. All this led to enormous shrinkage of Ruth's popularity with the fans, particularly of NewYork, many of whom turned from adulation to derision. The press, too, turned largely against the fallen idol--all of which had its effect upon a man of Ruth's limited intelligence, variable temperament, and colossal egotism, and undoubtedly led to hissenseless rows with umpires, for which he has been properly disciplined by President Johnson, who threatens to repeat the dose, upon similar provocation, until Ruth either behaves or gets out. . . In this event the brief reign of Babe Ruth, though highly profitable to the New York Club, will be memorable only for its evil effect upon the sport as a whole, as his constant exploitation as a home run hitter stimulated a home run craze in both public and players that led to temporary abandonment ofscientific play; and militated vastly against team work and discipline; and, worst of all, made a popular hero of a specialty player who lacks every qualification of a truly great player." (Sporting News, July 6, 1922, pp. 4, column 5, Casual Comment)1939 - "My outfield of Duffy, Cobb and Keeler is fast, they are good hitters and good throwers. My goodness! I know I left Ruth off. He had Combs playing his territory for him half the time. And Ruth was no base runner. And no great shucks as a

1926 - "Some have said that Ruth is a greater ball player than Cobb. Fact will hardly bear that out. Ruth is a great ball player in his specialty but he does not have it within him to be of the type that Cobb exemplified and the very nature of his

a beautifully classic hitter like Hornsby, but was a revolutionary slugger." (The Life That Ruth Built by

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Richard J. (Dick) Collins (74)-1953 Feb.12 79 1894 1940Leonard Frederick Wooster Feb.26 1875-1958 My.25 83 1909 1938Harvey Trunkey Woodruff Apr.9 1875-1937 Jun.2 62 1898 1937

John C. (JCD) Derks (75)-1944 Apr.8 69 1941William George (Billy) Murphy Jun.26 1875-1925 Jan.21 49 1905 1925Wood (Duke) Ballard Aug.15 1875-1946 Nov.7 72 1906William Arthur (Bill) Rafter Sept.1 1875-1926 Feb.13 47 1900 1926Harold Webster (Hal) Lanigan Nov. 12 1875-1949 Dec.14 74 1895Melville Emerson Webb, Jr. Feb. 21 1876-1961 Oct.23 85 1897 JL4,1951Charles Emmet Van Loan Jn. 20 1876-1919 Mar. 2 42 1904 1910Irvin Shrewsbury Cobb Jun.23 1876-1944 Mar.10 67 1904

Wilson M. (Bill) Tackaberry (76)-1934 My.5 48

(76)-1942 Sept.24 66 1907 1942

Joseph P. Norton 33 (76)-1936 Jun.3 60 1899 1919Paul Herbert Shannon Sept.1 1876-1939 Jan.19 62 1907 1939Harry B. Smith Dec.10 1876-1951 Dec.14 75William James Granger Feb.9 1877-1945 Jan.17 67 1900 1945George Moore Graham (77)-1944 Nov.15 68 1916Howard Mann (77)-1936 Jun. 8 59 1900

Frank F. (Buck) O'Neil 1877-1962 Mar.11 1911 1959Marion Frank Parker (77)-1950 Jun.10 73 1896 1921Gordon J. Mackay Aug.27 1877-1941 Feb.20 63 1896 1939Bozeman Bulger Nov. 22 1877-1932 My. 27 55 1906 Fb 31Richard J. (Dick) Guy Feb.14 1878-1963 Dec.22 84 1908Thomas Stevens Rice Feb.21 1878-1942 Feb.4 63 1899 1929

Albert Henry Tarvin 1878-1959 Mar.24 80William J. (Bill) (Red) Cochran (78)-1925 Aug.1 47

Stephen Orlando (Sog) Grauley Aug.5 1878-1958 Dec.6 80 N1897 1958James Arnot Crusinberry Dec. 11 1878-1960 Jul. 1 81 1903 1948

William Peet Jul.27 1878-1946 Jul.29 70 1910 1925Raymond M. Ziegler ? Jun.5 1879-1968 Apr. 19 89 1898 1922

Charles Andrus Taylor Mar.11 1879-1944 Jan.26 65Jim Kelly 1879-1958 Jan.26 79 1912Frank E. Murney (79)-1934 Aug.13 55 1904 1934William O'Connell McGeehan Nov.22 1879-1933 Nov.29 54

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James J. (Jim) Long Nov.30 1879-1955 Apr.8 75Walter S. Trumbull Dec.21 1879-1961 Oct.18 81 1903Edward F. Bang Feb. 26 1880-1968 Apr. 27 88 1907 1960Robert. Joseph Connery Mar.28 1880-1967 Jan.28 86Malcolm A. MacLean Apr.1 1880-1927 Mar.4 46 Jan.,1904

Raymond C. Pearson 45 1880-1958 Mar.12 54 1929Henry Grantland (Granny) Rice Nov.1 1880-1954 Jul.13 73 1905 1954

James Campbell (Jimmie) Isaminger Dec. 6 1880-1946 Jun.17 66 1905 S e17,'40Harry W. Neily (Senor) Mar. 7 1881-1948 Aug.26 67 1908 1933

Charles Ambrose Hughes My.18 1881-1953 Jan.29 71 1902 1953Willis Eldon Johnson My.21 1881-1958 Apr.23 77 1901 1936

Franklin Pierce Adams Nov.24 1881-1960 Mar.23 78

Kerr N. Petrie 1881-1961 My.25 80 1951Glen L. Wallar Oct.4 1881-1955 Jan.27 73 1910 1948Charles Israel J Nov.12 1881-1971 Dec.4 90 1906 1946Ralph Stuart Davis Nov.1 1882-1939 Oct.18 57 1903 1932Lawrence H. (Larry) Woltz ? (82)-1946 Dec.10 64Edward P.Duffy (82)-1952 Jul.28 70 1904Oscar Bane (OB) (Pop) Keeler Jun.4 1882-1950 Oct.15 68 1909 S '50Harry E. Cross (82)-1946 Apr.3 64 1909 1946

Harry C. Bullion (82)-1934 Jul. 19 52 1911 1931Frank Witte Rostock Sept.16 1882-1960 Jul.18 77 1912 1933

Edwin Gerald (Ned) Brown Oct.15 1882-1976 Apr.18 94 1897Jacquim Leonard (Jack) Lait Mar.13 1882-1954 Apr.1 72

Apr. 9 1883-1943 Feb.15 59 1909 1943William S. Forman (83)-1944 My. 17 61Edward Joseph Geiger Feb. 18 1884-1949 Jan.11 66 1900 1936

W. Fred Ford (83)-1940 Sept.16 57 1909Edgar Vincent (EV) Durling (83)-1957 Sept.13 64

James Sidney (Sid) Mercer Aug.4 1880-1945 Jun.18 65 1902-23 31-45

Edward A. (Batch) Batchelor, Sr. Sept. 21 1883-1968 Jul. 19 84 1906 1917George Edward Phair Oct.16 1883-1965 My.14 82 1912 1938Thomas L. Terrell Nov.26 1883-1971 Jul.15 87William Joseph Slocum Dec.17 1883-1943 My.6 59

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Robert E. P. Sensenderfer Dec.31 1883-1957 Jan.3 73John W. McConaughy (84)-1933 Oct.12 49 1903 1917Robert W. Maxwell 1884-1922 Jun.30 38 1906 1922Harold Cooper Burr (84)-1955 Jul.6 71 erly20s 1954Edward Bloomfield Goate Jul. 23 1884-1962 Oct. 10 72Harold DeKalb (Speed) Johnson Sept. 2 1884-1958 Feb.21 73 1907 1949Alfred Damon Runyon Oct. 8 1884-1946 Dec.10 62 1911 S 17

George Edgar (Stoney) McLinn Nov.9 1884-1953 Mar.8 68 1907 1934

Charles J. (Chilly) Doyle Nov.10 1884-1959 Nov.15 75 1915 Ja6'58

Malcolm Wallace Bingay Dec. 16 1884-1953 Aug. 21 68 1903 1953

Ringgold Wilmer Lardner Mar.6 1885-1933 Sep.25 48 1907 1919

Henry George (Harry) (Sal) Salsinger Apr. 10 1885-1958 Nov.27 73 1907 1958Wilton Simpson (Bill) Farnsworth Jun.7 1885-1945 Jun.10 60 1904 1937Albert J. Woodlock 1885-1953 Jul.25 68 1904 1932Edward B. Mullen (85)-1944 Jan.28 59James E. (Jim) O'Phelan (85)-1933 Sept.3 48George B. Underwood (85)-1943 Aug.28 58William Smith Sept.25 1885-1956 Feb.25 70 1905 1915Ferdinand Cole (F.C.) Lane Oct. 25 1885-1984 Apr. 20 98 1910 1938

Frank (Pat) Pieper Feb.17 1886-1974 Oct.22 88 1916 1974William Buller Hershey Feb.21 1886-1967 Feb.2 80 1903 1950John Peter (Jack) Gallagher Apr. 9 1886-1946 Apr. 25 60 1925 1946

John N. Wheeler Apr.11 1886-1973 Oct.13 87 1907 1964John B. (Jack) Keller Jun.24 1886-1968 Mar.22 81 1920 1953Roscoe E. McGowan Jul.16 1886-1966 Nov.5 80 1928 1959Frank G. Menke Aug. 15 1886-1954 My. 13 67 1911 1936

Thomas D. Richter (86)-1960 Mar. 8 74 1910Howard Perry Lewis (86)-1945 Jun. 16 59 1909 1945Nicholas J. (Nick) Flatley Sept.7 1886-1930 Oct.13 44 1930Norman B. Beasley Apr.6 1887-1963 Jul.2 76 1907 1919Robert E. Dundon (87)-1933 Sept.18 46Frank Burton (Burt) Whitman (87)-1949 My. 8 62 1913 My 49Nathaniel Stanley (Nat) Fleischer J Nov. 3 1887-1972 Jun. 25 84

Gilbert W. Remley 1887-1961 Dec. 6 74 1925 My. 5William A. Grimes 64 1887-1961 Nov. 16 74 1913Charles Willis Dunkley Sept.26 1887-1957 Feb. 6 69 1909 S '52Edmund P. Cunningham Feb. 11 1888-1969 Mar. 30 80 1917

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Rodger H. Pippen Feb. 21 1888-1959 Jun. 8 71 1906 Dec-57Purves Turner Knox Feb.26 1888-1961 Dec.4 73Frederick George Lieb Mar.5 1888-1980 Jun.3 92 1910 1977

Matthew Howard Gallagher Mar.5 1888-1955 Nov. 9 67 1909 1955

Herbert S. Jaspan (88)-1941 My. 22 53Robert Denman Thompson Jun. 29 1888-1969 Jul. 19 81 1915 Jn30,'53Francis Hunter Young (88)-1957 Jun. 12 69 1923 1953?James L. (Jim) Kilgallen Jul. 11 1888-1982 Dec. 21 94 1920 1980Sidney Clarence Keener Aug. 15 1888-1981 Jan.30 92 1907 1951Edgar G. Brands Nov. 2 1888-1970 Nov. 26 82 1930 Ju '54John George (JG) Taylor Spink Nov. 6 1888-1962 Dec. 7 74 1912 1962

Edmund Thomas (Tom) Swope Dec. 1 1888-1969 Feb.11 80 1914 Feb 1,'69Stuart M. Bell Dec.1 1888-1970 Oct. 9 81 1911Heywood Campbell Broun Dec. 7 1888-1939 Dec. 18 51 1912 1919

Mark Irving Vaughan Dec. 14 1888-1963 Nov.22 74 Ja10,10 1957Oscar C. Reichow ? Jan.31 1889-1950 Jul. 8 62James V. FitzGerald Feb.22 1889-1976 Aug.23 87 1917

William Guille Wedge, Jr. Mar. 27 1889-1951 Sept. 8 62 1923 Ja 4,'50Arthur Bosworth McGinley Apr. 5 1889-1974 Feb. 19 84 1909 1974William J. O'Connor Aug.7 1888-1957 Jul. 26 68 1908 1917Leslie M. O'Connor Aug. 31 1889-1966 Jan. 20 77 1921 1966

Maurice Joseph Pauley (89)-1952 Sept.13 63Leo Macdonnell (89)-1957 Oct. 6 69 1924 Aug, '57Joseph Peter Williams, Sr. Dec.17 1889-1972 Feb.15 82 1910 1964Thomas A. Doerer Jul. 27 1889-1972 Sept.21 83 1968Edward Leo Joseph (Eddie) Hurley Nov.14 1889-1938 Jul.4 49Alfred J. Speckens Nov. 23 1889-1973 Jul. 4 83John Robert Tunis Dec. 7 1889-1975 Feb. 4 85William S. (Willie) Hennigan Feb. 5 1890-1942 Jul. 5 52 1910 1942Eugene Devlan (Gene) Fowler Mar. 8 1890-1960 Jul. 2 70 O.1917 1928

John Drohan Apr. 1 1890-1969 My. 3 79 1919 1955Allesandro (Alex) Pompez My. 3 1890-1974 Mar. 15 84Daniel (Moskowitz) (Dan) Daniel J Jun. 6 1890-1981 Jul. 1 91 1910 60's

James W. Gantz Jul. 27 1890-1962 Nov. 25 72 1912George N. Palmer (90)-1960 Jun. 13 70 1926 Feb. '60Lester Rice Aug.22 1889-1970 Jan. 2 80William M. (Bill) Henry, Aug.21 1890-1970 Apr.13 79 1921 1969

Edward Harold Burns Jan. 17 1891-1955 Jan. 27 64 1927 1952

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Samuel Damon Otis Sept.10 1890-1946 Jun. 12 55 1920 1946Walter "Christy" Walsh 73 Dec.2 1891-1955 Dec.29 64

John (Drebby) Drebinger Mar. 27 1891-1979 Oct. 22 88 1927 1964Lloyd Downs Lewis My. 2 1891-1949 Apr. 21 57 1913

John J. Alcock (91)-1944 Jan.7 53 Lloyd A. McMaster Jun.9 1891-1965 Apr.12 73Pat Joseph Robinson Jun. 28 1891-1964 Nov. 13 74 1921 1958Fred P. Alger Jun. 29 1891-1965 Aug. 19 74 1918 1960James S. Carolyn Jul. 23 1891-1943 Nov. 16 52 1929Arthur Kingsbury Perrin Aug. 5 1891-1973 Sept. 1 82James J. (Jimmy) Murphy Sept.25 1891-1970 Dec. 11 79 1920 1970Don Francisco Oct. 18 1891-1973 Oct. 25 82Dr. William Earl (Bill) Brandt Oct. 30 1891-1963 Nov. 18 72 1910 1945

Augustine J. (Gus) Rooney Jan. 8 1892-1978 Dec. 21 86 1911 1938Davis J. Walsh Apr. 11 1892-1966 Aug.23 74 1918 1960Edward Friend Danforth Mar. 17 1892-1962 Dec. 5 70 Mr 16 Feb. '57John Milton (Jack) Malaney Jun. 17 1892-1975 Nov. 24 83 1913 1970Paul Adlai Rickart Jul. 7 1892-1965 Oct. 24 73 Ap 05 1965Emil H. Praeger (92)-1973 Oct. 16 81John Francis Kieran Aug.2 1892-1981 Dec.10 1922 1941John Charles Manning Nov. 4 1892-1967 Dec.25 75 1922 1960John N. (Jack) James Nov. 21 1892-1972 Sept.27 79 1964Havey J. Boyle Dec. 12 1892-1947 Mar. 18 54 1912 1947James Roy Stockton Dec. 16 1892-1972 Aug.24 79 1917 1958James Hurley Dec.26 1892-1964 Apr.7 71Abe Kemp ? My. 17 1892-1975 Feb. 1 81 1907 1969Wilbur Wittler (Woodie) Wood Jan. 1 1893-1968 Mar.18 76 1913 1950

George C. Carens 1893-1962 Jan. 4 69 1914 1961Daniel Francis Parker Jul. 1 1893-1967 My. 20 73 1924 1967James Edward Doyle Sept.28 1893-1981 My. 23 87 1923 1971Frank Cleveland True Nov. 2 1893-1974 Apr. 6 80Frank Graham, Jr. Nov.12 1893-1965 Mr.9 71 1915 1964Warren William Brown Jan. 3 1894-1978 Nov. 22 84 1915 1964Francis John (Frank) Wallace Feb. 12 1894-1977 Aug. 19 83 1925 1937

Clifford A. Bloodgood Mar. 7 1994-1957 Oct. 8 63 1919 1954Harry Vincent Wade Mar. 26 1894-1973 Sept.19 79Howell DeWitt Stevens Apr. 20 1894-1972 Jan. 27 77Harold M. Grayson My. 10 1894-1968 Sept.30 74 1933Frederick S. (Feg) Murray My. 15 1894-1973 Jul. 18 79 1922 1932William G. (Bill) Dooly My. 30 1894-1968 Jun. 24 74 Spr.'24 1956Edward Winthrop Cochrane Jul. 22 1894-1954 Aug. 8 60 1914 1944Carl T. Felker Jul. 29 1894-1977 Feb.21 72Richard Farrington 1894-1953 Feb. 13 59 1916 1953

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Herman Wecke (94)-1977 Mar. 3 83 1910William Henry (Hank) Simmons ('94)-1944 Jun.3 50Francis Westbrook Pegler Aug.2 1894-1969 Jun.24 74 1925 1933

John Walter (Duster) Mails Oct. 1 1894-1974 Jul. 5 78 15,16,20 25-26Stanwood Fulton (Stan) Baumgartner Dec. 14 1894-1955 Oct. 4 60 1914 1955John C. (Jack) Kofoed Dec. 17 1894-1979 Dec.27 85 1912 1979

Ford Christopher Frick Dec. 19 1894-1978 Apr. 8 83 1921 1965Edwin J. Pollock Jan. 12 1895-1976 Nov. 1 81 1918 1963Wayne K. Otto Jan. 31 1895-1946 Apr. 3 51 1920 1946

John Tom Laird Feb. 27 1895-1971 Jan. 22 76 1911 1942William Edwin (Bill) Burwell Mar. 27 1895-1973 Jun. 11 78 1920 1973James P. Dawson Mar. 27 1895-1953 Mar. 6 57 1918 1953Martin J. (Mike) Haley Apr. 23 1895-1977 Mar. 6 81 1919 1960

James Renwick (Jim) Harrison Aug.29 1895-1931 Oct. 6 36 1919 1930Henry L. Farrell 1895-1954 Apr. 9 59Sam Levy ? Mar.21 1895-1955 Aug. 6 60 1918 1955John J. Farrell, Sr. Apr.30 1895-1979 Nov. 4 83 1970Rufus Stanley Woodward Jun. 5 1895-1965 Nov. 29 71 1923 1962James Carter Latimer (95)-1953 Feb.7 58Clarence Cassin Jul. 28 1895-1973 Jun. 4 77William B. Loftus Jul.28 1895-1938 Jan.21 42Martene Windsor (Bill) Corum Jul.29 1895-1958 Dec.16 63 1920 1958Samuel Saunders Greene Aug.26 1895-1963 Sept.5 68 1922 Au,63Louis Levenson (Charles O. Dexter)? Sept.28 1895-1969 Jun. 14 73Francis J. Powers Nov. 8 1895-1977 Sept. 3 81 1918 1954

Marshall A. Hunt Dec. 1 1895-1974 Sept.17 78 1918 1939Albert Gillis (Al) Laney Jan. 11 1896-1988 Jan. 31 92 1930 1966Jimmy Corcoran 81 1896-1944 Feb. 3 48 1924 1944Elijah William (Bill) Cunningham ? Feb. 11 1896-1960 Apr. 17 64 1922 1960Frank Fallon Mar. 20 1896-1973 Nov. 29 77Nixon Denton Apr. 21 1896-1968 Jul. 26 72 1923 1958Edward T. Murphy Jun. 19 1896-1965 Jan. 4 68 1918 1954William M. Braucher Nov. 1 1896-1958 Nov. 13 62 1929 1956Arch Burdette Ward Dec. 27 1896-1955 Jul. 9 58 1930 1955William J. (Bill) McGoogan, Sr. Feb. 13 1897-1966 My. 9 69 1923 Mr. '66Franklyn J. Adams Apr. 18 1897-1972 Apr. 7 74 1919 1962Harry Keck Apr. 19 1897-1965 Apr.18 68 1914 1960Max Kase J Jul. 31 1897-1974 Mar. 20 76 1926 1966

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Paul William Gallico Jul. 26 1897-1976 Jul. 15 78 1923 1936

Rutherford (Rud) Rennie Aug. 8 1897-1956 Oct. 6 59 1925 1955Leo H. Fischer Sept.20 1897-1970 Aug. 27 72 1924 1969Ralph H. Cannon Oct.26 1897-1979 My.11 81 1920C. William (Bill) Duncan Nov. 4 1897-1967 Apr. 27 69 1921 1967Gustave Steiger ? Nov. 18 1897-1988 Dec.22 91 1925 1963William Wilson (Eddie) Edgar Nov.19 1897-1986 My. 88 1924 1948Charles Patrick Ward Nov. 29 1897-1960 Apr.3 63 1919 1960Alan Jenks Gould Jan. 30 1898-1993 Jun. 21 95 1921 1963Walter (Gunboat) Hudson Jan. 30 1898-1933 Nov. 22 35 1933Raymond John Kelly Feb. 18 1898-1967 Jan. 8 68 1920 1958Allison Danzig Feb. 27 1898-1987 Jan.27 88 1921 1968Franklin W. Yeutter ? 1898-1963 Feb. 21 65 1938 1963Zygmunt Stephen Kaminski Apr.24 1898-1944 Jul.30 46Frank Macdonnell 1898-1941 Feb. 10 43 1919 1937Frank Currier Ferguson, Sr. Mar. 5 1898-1972 Jan. 19 73 1921 1926Chester L. (Chet) Smith Apr. 11 1898-1973 Jan. 28 74 1920 1966William Frederick (Bill) Leiser ? Apr. 26 1898-1965 Jan. 16 66 1921 1965Eugene (Gene) Kessler ? My. 18 1898-1982 Apr. 1 83 1923 1958

Edmund Gilligan Jun. 7 1898-1973 Dec.29 75 1926Gordon Russell (Cobby) Cobbledick Dec. 31` 1898-1969 Oct. 2 70 1928 1964Bernard Oliver (Bennie) Bengough ? Jul. 27 1898-1969 Dec.22 70 1923 1969James Wren (Zach) Taylor ? Jul. 27 1898-1974 Sept.19 76 1920 1973Lawrence Spencer (Doc) Holst ? Aug.26 1898-1971 Apr.20 72 1930 Apr '67Richards Vidmer Oct. 7 1898-1978 Jul. 23 79 1922John Dietrich ? Oct.7 1898-1965 Sept.13 66 Sp 22 1964Willis N. (Jersey) Jones Oct. 24 1898-1973 Dec.19 75Arthur Preslon Glass Dec. 4 1898-1973 Sept.11 74Ivan Hugh (Cy) Peterman Feb. 21 1899-1978 Jan.26 78 1924 1958

Wilfrid Smith Apr.7 1899-1976 Aug.3 77Manila Grant (Bud) Shaver ? Apr. 7 1899-1947 Feb. 21 47 1925James A. Mulvey ? Apr. 23 1899-1973 Dec. 2 74John Barret (Jack) Miley My. 1899-1945 Jun. 17 46 1945Jack McDonald Oct. 21 1899-1997 Sept.14 97 1926 1986

Walter Raymond Graham Nov. 26 1899-1973 Mar. 23 73 1923James Warren (Jim) Schlemmer ? Dec. 24 1899-1977 My. 10 87 1923 Ja 1,'70David Bloom Apr. 13 1900-1973 Jul.1 73 1923 1972Herman Goldstein J Apr. 14 1900-1974 Nov.11 74 1922 Feb. '60John M. B. (Jack) Ryan My. 2 1900-1970 Sept.24 70 1925 1965Herbert A. (Huck) Finnegan Jun. 21 1900-1967 Aug. 4 67 1925Charles C. Hay My. 26 1900-1973 Oct. 24 73Joseph Cashman Dec.28 1900-1993 Feb. 12 92 1925 1970Robert F. Kelley 85 1901-1976 Dec.14 75 1920 1944Russ Newland (01)-1955 Jan. 6 54 1925 1955

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Edward Vincent (Ed) Sullivan Mar.19 1901-1973 Oct.13 72 1936 1948Roger Birtwell My. 19 1901-1985 Oct.16 84 1972Braven Dyer My. 29 1901-1983 Aug.30 82 1925William H. Taylor My. 31 1901-1966 Jan.6 64Arthur William Mann Sept.11 1901-1963 Jan.3 61 1923 1931

Russell F. Snyder Oct. 14 1901-1972 Nov.20 71Garry Richard Schumacher ? Nov. 2 1901-1978 Oct.22 77 1920 1971Rueben C. (Rube) Samuelsen ? Dec. 2 1901-1973 Nov.12 71Kenneth D. Smith Jan. 8 1902-1991 Mar.1 89 1925 1963John Durant Jan. 10 1902-1983 Jan.18 81 1936John G. (Jack) Case Feb. 28 1902-1973 My.15 71Lawrence Robinson Mar. 25 1902-1975 My.4 73 mid20's mid60'sRaymond V. Smith Mar. 26 1902-1968 Nov.8 65 1920 1968Vernon D. (Curley) Grieve Apr. 2 1902-1966 Dec.8 64 1966Quentin Reynolds Apr. 11 1902-1965 Mar.17 62William J. McCullough Jun. 5 1902-1954 Aug.6 52 1928Eugene J. (Gene) Whitney Jun. 15 1902-1972 Jul.13 70 1939 1970John Lloyd McGowan (02)-1973 Apr.7 71 1925 1967Julius Lewis 1902-1947 Mar.13 45 1917 1947John J. Sheridan 1902-1943 Oct.26 41 1943Joseph P. Val Jul. 9 1902-1971 Jan.16 68 1932 1967Leonard Cohen ? Aug.26 1902-1989 Oct. 30 87 1974James H. (Jimmy) Burns Aug. 31 1902-1968 Jan.7 65William Marvin McCarthy Sept.14 1902-1983 Sept.13 81 1926John Peerless Carmichael Oct. 16 1902-1986 Jun. 6 83 1927 1972Leonard Gettelson Nov. 18 1902-1977 Dec. 25 75Herbert C. (Herb) Smith Nov. 18 1902-1974 Feb. 6 71James M. Kahn Nov. 20 1902-1978 Mar. 7 75 1927 1977Axford (Al) Buck Jan.2 1903-1967 Jun. 64Arthur Siegel 1903-1965 Mar. 26 62 1924 1965

James J. (Jimmy) Powers Feb. 9 1903-1995 Feb. 11 92 1936 1959Louis J. (Lou) Smith My.24 1903-1979 Mar.21 71C. Roland Hughes Jun. 14 1903-1974 Feb. 25 70 1968Raymond John Gillespie Jul. 1 1903-1979 Feb. 8 75 1923 1951McCagie Brooks Rogers,Sr. Jul. 8 1903-1972 Apr. 25 68John C. Hoffman Jul. 9 1903-1964 Oct. 26 61 1923 1957Edward Joseph McAuley Aug. 24 1903-1961 Oct. 25 58 1928Donald E. Basenfelder Sept. 9 1903-1945 Jan. 4 41 1926 1945Thomas William Meany Sep. 21 1903-1964 Sep.11 60 1922 1956Louis (Lou) Niss Oct. 5 1903-1987 Apr. 30 82 1923 1980Samuel Harold (Sam) Lacy Oct. 23 1903-2003 My.8 99 1918 1990's

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Frank T. Kearns Dec. 19 1903-1984 Jan. 28 80Robert Eugene Ray Dec.24 1903-1941 Sept.8 37 1924 1941Franklin Allan (Whitey) Lewis Jan.18 1904-1958 Mar.12 54 1925 1958James Thomas Farrell Feb. 27 1904-1979 Aug.22 75 1917 1977Albert (Al) Abrams Feb. 29 1904-1977 Mar. 3 73 1926 1974Ray Andrew Hill My. 5 1904-1966 Nov. 3 62James Anton (Jim) Burchard (04)-1960 My. 29 56 Mr20,60Volney P. Walsh (04)-1937 Mar.29 33 1931 1936James Timothy (Jim) Gallagher Jun. 9 1904-2002 Apr.9 92 1933 1973

Joseph H. Palmer Dec. 1904-1952 Oct. 31 4?Arthur John Daley Jul. 31 1904-1974 Jan.3 75 1926 1974

George Arnold Strickler Aug. 12 1904-1976 Dec. 7 72 1925 1969Abbott Joseph (A.J.) Liebling ? Oct. 18 1904-1963 Dec. 28 59 1925 1963Hugh S. Fullerton, Jr. Nov. 9 1904-1965 Sept.15 61 1927 1965Edward H. Prell Nov. 25 1904-1981 Sept. 1 76 1932 1970Charles R. Hoerter Dec. 11 1904-1974 Mar. 18 69 1924 1967Damon Kerby Mar. 11 1905-1967 Jul. 22 62Frederick James Corcoran Apr. 4 1905-1977 Jun.23 72Edward (Ned) Irish My. 6 1905-1982 Jan. 21 1934Ernest Dalton Jun. 28 1905-1971 My. 1 65 1927 1970Shirley Lewis Povich J Jul. 15 1905-1998 Jun.4 92 1922 1974Roger L. Treat Jul. 18 1905-1969 Oct. 5 64 1943Jerry Mitchell Jul. 18 1905-1972 My. 22 67 1934 1972John K. Hutchens Aug. 9 1905-1995 Jul. 22 89 1944 1963Sam Muchnick Aug.22 1905-1998 Dec.30 93 1926 1932

Peter J. O'Donnell Sept.13 1905-1973 Oct. 16 68 late 40'sAl M. Horowitz J Sept.20 1905-1984 Feb. 24 81 1927 1942Walter Wellesley (Red) Smith Sept.25 1905-1982 Jan.15 76 1927 1982Donald Starr Oct. 10 1905-1973 Jun. 4 67Prescott Lawrence (Sully) Sullivan Jan.18 1906-1985 My.19 79 1923? 1976Frank A. (Gibby) Gibbons 6'5,250 Jan.29 1906-1964 Sept.1 58 1936 1964Joseph M. Pancoast Apr. 5 1906-1972 Oct.9 66 1971Frank McGowan My.5 1906-1975 My.8 69 1921 1972John F. Chandler Aug. 7 1906-1973 Dec.30 67Fred McFerrin Russell Aug.27 1906-2003 Jan.26 96 1929 1999Gerald M. (Jerry) Holland Sept.18 1906-1974 Jun.18 67Albert W. Bloemker Sept.26 1906-1996 Jan.22 89John Hopkins Fenton Sept.26 1906-1973 Apr.11 66 1933 1970

Nov.4 1906-1975 Sept.25 68 1929Henry McLemore Dec.2 1906-1968 Jun.23 61 1920's

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David C. Alexander Apr. 21 1907-1973 Mar.21 65Clarence H. Nixon, Jr. Apr. 30 1907-1990 Feb.10 82 early 70'sEdward J. Powers Feb. 15 1907-1973 My.8 66Edgar Hayes Oct.28 1907-1987 Jun.22 79 1924 1960William G. (Bill) Mokray Jun. 6 1907-1974 Mar.22 66Lester J. (Les) Biederman ? Jun. 5 1907-1981 Nov.30 74 1933 1969Tommy Fitzgerald (07)-1968 Jan.18 61 1940?Garrett D. (Muddy) Waters Oct. 3 1907-1980 Jun.23 72 1931Nathaniel Mortimer Gerstenzang ? Oct. 10 1907-1995 Aug.11 87 1933 1969Herbert F. Simons Nov. 29 1907-1968 Sept.14 60 1929 1968Ben Epstein J 1907-1958 Aug.25 51 1943 1958Al Wolf Mar. 14 1908-1982 Jul.7 74Stanley B. Frank Apr. 22 1908-1979 Jan.6 70Charles N. (Chuck) Bang My. 9 1908-1972 Sept.14 64Joseph (Joe) King My. 19 1908-1979 Apr.16 70 1930 1968

Robert S. White (08)-1971 Oct. 17 63 1926 1971Donald Dunphy Jul. 5 1908-1998 Jul. 22 90Harmon W. Nichols Jul. 22 1908-1973 Jul. 28 65Edwin M. Rumill Sep. 28 1908-1987 Sep.18 77 1929 1972Arthur Lentz Nov. 17 1908-1974 Jan. 25 65Harold F. Parrott Jan. 10 1909-1987 Jul. 30 78 1928Harold Kaese Mar. 8 1909-1975 My. 10 66 1933 1973Lester Bromberg Mar. 12 1909-1989 Feb. 21 79James (Jimmy) Cannon Apr.10 1909-1973 Dec.5 64Bernard (Barney) Kremenko My. 8 1909-1990 Jan. 20 80 1931Albert Simon (Al) Hirshberg My. 10 1909-1973 Apr. 11 63Simon (Si) Burick J Jun. 14 1909-1986 Dec. 10 77 1928 1986Fred Wittner Aug. 26 1909-1972 Jul. 6 63 1931 1939Harold L. (Hal) Middlesworth Sept.19 1909-1984 Apr.24 74George Alvin (Al) Helfer Sept.26 1909-1975 My. 16 65 1970George S. Vecsey Nov.16 1909-1984 Nov.27 75 1943 1975Gerald Curtin Sylvester 32 R Dec. 7 1909-1977 My. 7 67 22-33 1939Robert (Bob) Addie Feb. 6 1910-1982 Jan. 18 71 1977Hyman Hurwitz J Mar. 22 1910-1966 My. 1 56 1926 1966John Fleming My. 6 1910-1974 Jan.29 63Martin J. (Marty) Kehoe My. 20 1910-1974 Feb. 9 63Harold Seymour Jun. 21 1910-1992 Sep.26 82 1928 1990Edwin J. Delaney Sept.27 1910-1966 Oct. 22 56 20's 1966Ira Seebacher Jan. 29 1911-1981 Feb. 10 70Les Carmichael 94 (11)-1973 Feb. 26 62 1973Paul L. Walker Mar. 3 1911-1973 Aug. 21 62Tommy Devine (11)-1968 Jun.8 57 1940 1962

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Hy Turkin J My. 9 1915-1955 Jun.24 40Roy Patrick McHugh Jun. 12 1915-SA01 1947Robert C. (Corky) Lamm Jul. 3 1915-1974 Jan.13 58 1974Joseph L. Reichler J Jan.1 1916-1989 Dec.12 73Herbert (Red) Goren (Old Scout) Apr.5 1916-1991 Feb.8 74 1936Allen Lewis Dec.17 1916-2003 Sept.14 86 1949 1979

Robert E. (Bob) Stevens Oct.10 1916-2002 Jan.2 85 1940William E. (Eddie) Read Jun. 18 1916-1973 My. 28 56Herbert Warren Wind Aug. 11 1916-SA90 1947Robert (Bob) Allison Aug. 23 1916-1974 Apr. 5 57Harold Paul (Hal) Lebovitz ? Sept.11 1916-SA01 1946 1993

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Robert (Bob) Holbrook Jan.29 1919-2004 Jan.13 84 1940 1990

Charles R. (Bob) Englert Apr. 24 1919-1974 Apr. 15 54 1971Thomas Rodgers My. 21 1919-1973 My. 21 58David J. Grote Jul. 3 1919-1978 Dec.31 59 Mr 48Fred Digby Jul. 25 1919-1993 Aug.23 74Ned Irish Aug. 15 1919-1993 Jul. 8 73Edward Earl (Ed) Fitzgerald Sept.10 1919-2001 Feb.11 81James Patrick (Jim) Murray, Jr. Dec.29 1919-1998 Aug. 17 78 1954

Neal Russo Jun.12 1920-1996 Mar.9 75Roger Angell Sept.19 1920-Harold (Bud) Saidt Nov. 11 1920-1989 Apr. 8 68 1964 1989Giacoma Costa (Al Costello) Dec. 14 1920-2000 Jan. 22 80 1957Lloyd A. Armstrong Mar. 7 1921-1974 Mar. 1 52 1974Melvin Durslag ? Apr. 29 1921-SA 1980'sJohn Frederick (Jack) Lang My. 5 1921-SA01 1946Charles Ritter Collett Jun. 14 1921-2001 Sept.25 80 1946Fred A. Ciampa Aug. 19 1921-1973 Jul. 17 51 1973Albert Jules McClane Jan. 26 1922-1991 Dec.21 69Milton Saul Richman J Jan. 29 1922-1986 Jun. 9 64 1946 1986

Arnold Hano Mar. 2 1922-SA76 1954Lawrence Stanley Ritter My.23 1922-2004 Feb.15 81

Robert W. Creamer Jul.14 1922-SAWilliam R. (Bill) Roeder Feb.11 1923-1982 Aug. 15 59Grady Edgebert Hatton, Jr. Oct. 7 1922-SA98Edward Allen Linn ? Nov. 14 1922-2000 Feb. 7 77 1950James K. (Jimmy) Bell Nov. 19 1922-1973 Sept.10 50John (Jack) Murphy Feb. 5 1923-1980 Sept.24 57Early M. Lawson Feb. 1 1923-2003 Jan.14 79 1946 Fb 85Jesse L. Outlar My. 6 1923-SA03 1947George William (Bill) Givens Sept.13 1923-1973 Oct. 7 50Leonard Koppett J Sept.15 1923-2003 Jun.22 79 1948 2003

Al Rosen ? Feb. 29 1924-SA00David Rensing Condon Mar. 4 1924-1994 Dec. 5 70 1944 1982Ira (Bill) Searby My. 13 1924-1973 Feb.28 47 1948 1973John Joseph Kuenster Jun.18 1924-SA02 1947Joseph Paul Durso Jun.22 1924-2004 Dec.31 80 1950 2001

John Dennis McCallum Jun. 27 1924-1988 Dec.17 64 1950 1954

Robert Churchhill (Bob) McConnell Jan.18 1925-SA02 1937Earl Morey Jun. 2 1925-1973 Oct. 26 48Herbert A. (Herby) Kirby Jul. 14 1925-1974 Jan. 2 47Samuel J. (Sammy) Glassman Sept.24 1925-1973 Oct. 16 48

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Roy Thomas (Mousey) Hartsfield Oct. 25 1925-John P. (Jack) Horrigan Dec.30 1925-1973 Jun. 2 47Phil Collier Dec. 7 1925-2001 Feb.24 75 1946 1999Jerome Holtzman ? Jul. 12 1926-SA02 1945Joseph Thomas McGuff Aug.15 1926- 1948 1992

Leonard Shecter Sept. 5 1926-1974 Jan. 19 47John Francis Steadman Feb. 14 1927-2001 Jan. 1 73 1945 2000Howard M. Sigmand Jun. 19 1927-1975 Mar. 20 47Edward J. Chilinski (Ed Chay) Sept.19 1926-1997 Oct. 29 71 1953 1986Joseph Francis Falls My. 2 1928-2004 Aug.11 76 1951 2004

Robert D. (Bob) Green Feb. 13 1932-1998 Jul. 15 66 1995Jack Raymond Murphy, Jr. Feb.5 1933-1980 Sept.25 47Elmore L. Keener, Jr. Nov. 5 1935-1973 Oct. 22 37Francis M. White 99 Nov.9 1935-1974 Feb. 22 38Glenn E. Dickey Feb.16 1936-Joseph John Vecchione Jan. 9 1937-SA88 1960Ross R. Newhan Apr.5 1937-SA01Harold Brown Dec. 15 1939-1974 Jan. 8 34Harold S. (Hal) McCoy Oct.18 1940-

Carl Lundquist Sept.24 1941-Roy A. Blount, Jr. Oct.4 1941-James Curtis (Kurt) McGregor Dec.8 1941-1973 Jan. 20 31Frank E. Barrett, Jr. Apr. 30 1944-1973 Nov. 29 29 1973Peter Gammons Apr. 9 1945-SA01Thomas Murray Boswell Nov. 10 1947-SA01Frank DefordNeed 100 Birth dates for above59 names, WWI database, 1873-1900

Sports Announcers Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireClem McCarthy Sept. 9 1882-1962 Jun.4 79Thomas Graham McNamee Jul. 10 1888-1942 My. 9 53 1923Harry Edwin Heilmann Aug.3 1894-1951 Jul.9 56 1933 1951Timothy J. (Ted) Canty Jun. 21 1895-1973 My. 5 77 1920's 1944Frank Fallon Mar.20 1896-1973 Nov.29 77Arch Linn McDonald My. 23 1901-1960 Oct.16 59 1931

Edward Britt (Ted) Husing Nov. 27 1901-1962 Aug. 10 60 1925 1946Robert (Bob) Elson Mar.22 1904-1981 Mar.10 76 1928Eli (Buck) Canal Mar.4 1906-1980 Apr.7 74 30's 1972William Stern Jul. 1 1907-1971 Nov. 19 64 30's 50'sWalter (Red) Barber ? Feb. 17 1908-1992 Oct. 22 84 1934 1966James R. (Jimmy) Dudley Sept.27 1909-1999 Feb.12 89Russell Hodges Jun.18 1910-1971 Apr.19 60 1938 1970Melvin Allen (Israel) J Feb. 14 1913-1996 Jun. 16 83 1938 1966Robert F. (Bob) Ingham Jul.29 1913-1973 Nov.6 60Harry Christopher Caray Mar. 1 1914-1998 Feb. 18 77 1944

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Byrum F. (By) Saam Sept.11 1914-2000 Jan.16 85 1937 1975William W. Brundige Feb.2 1915-2004 Apr.23 89Irwin Elliot My. 7 1915-1998 Sept.17 83John Beasley (Jack) Brickhouse Jan. 24 1916-1998 Aug. 6 82 1934 1982Robert (Bob) Prince Jul.1 1916-1985 Jun.10 68 1948 76,'85Van Patrick Aug. 15 1916-1974 Sept.29 58Francis Doyle (Chick) Hearn Nov.27 1916-2002 Aug.5 85 Mar.,'61 Jun.12,'02

Martin Irving (Marty) Glickman Aug.14 1917-2001 Jan.4 83 1937 1992,DecPhilip Francis (Scooter) Rizzuto Sept.25 1917- 1957 1996Ernie Harwell Jan.25 1918-SA03 1947 2002Howard William Cosell J Mar.25 1918-1995 Apr. 23 77 1956 80'sLindsey Nelson My. 25 1919-1995 Jun. 15 76 1951 85

Ray Scott Jun. 17 1919-1998 Mar. 23 78Curtis (Curt) Gowdy Jul. 31 1919-SA02 1943 1975John F. MacLean Mar. 9 1921-1973 Sept.12 52Harry Jones Jun. 6 1921-1983 Aug. 10 62 1961 1976Gordon Barton McLendon Jun. 8 1921-1986 Sept.14 65 1949 1952Chuck Thompson Jun.10 1921-SA02

James Kenneth McManus(Jim McKay) Sept.24 1921-SA02 1948 84Ralph McPherran Kiner Oct.27 1961 2003Herb Carneal My.10 1923-SA02Lon Simmons Jul.19 1923- 1958 2002Edwin (Ned) Martin Aug.9 1923-2002 Jul.23 85 1956 1991John Francis (Jack) Buck Aug. 21 1924-2002 Jun.18 77 1953 80'sGerald Francis (Jerry) Coleman Sept.14 1924- 1972 2003Bob Murphy Sept.19 1924-2004 Aug.3 79 1954 2003Joseph Henry (Joe) Garagiola Feb.12 1926-SA02 80'sBill O'Donnell Jun.4 1926-1982 Oct.29 56Rafael "Felo" Ramirez Arias, 74, Feb.20 1927-SA01

Milo Hamilton Sept.2 1927-Vincent Edward (Vin) Scully Nov. 29 1927-SA02 1950 80'sJoseph Henry Nuxhall Jul.30 1928- 1967 2003Frank Gifford Aug. 16 1930-SA01George Allen (Pat) Summerall My. 10 1931-SA02 1964Bill Enis Jan. 24 1934-1973 Dec. 14 39 1973Richard J. (Dick) Schaap Sept.27 1934-2001 Dec.21 67Richard Alan (Dick) Enberg ? Jan. 9 1935-SA02 1965 80'sRobert George (Bob) Uecker Jan.26 1935- 1971 2003Jaime A. Jarrin Dec.10 1935-SA02

Harry Kalas Mar.26 1936- 1961 1997

Joseph Donald (Don) Meredith Apr. 12 1938-SA02 1969Thomas Michael (Mike) Shannon Jul.5 1939- 1972 2003Jacques Doucet Mar.8 1940- 1972 2003

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F. Marty Brennnaman Jul.28 1942-Dennis G. (Denny) Mathews Nov.14 1942- 1969 2003Jon Miller Oct.11 1951-SA

Bob Wolff (21)-SA03

Thomas CheekTris Speaker

Baseball Team Owners Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireJohn Tomlinson Brush Jun.15 1845-1912 Nov.26 67 1887Christian Frederick Von Der Ahe Oct.7 1851-1913 Jun.5 61August (Garry) Herrmann ? My.3 1859-1931 Apr.25 71 1903 1927Charles Albert Comiskey Aug.15 1859-1931 Oct.26 72 1910

Charles Hercules Ebbets Oct.29 1859-1925 Mar.18 65 1896 1925

J. Earl Wagner (61)-1943 Nov.11 82 1890William K. Wrigley, Jr. Sept.30 1862-1932 Jan.26 70 1918 1932Cornelius Alexander McGillicuddy (Connie Mack) Dec.22 1862-1956 Feb.6 93Edith (Forney) (Dunn) Pross Apr.19 1863-1945 Jul.25 82 1922 1928James Robert (Jimmy) McAleer Jul.10 1864-1931 Apr.29 61 1889 1913Philip DeCatesby Ball Oct.22 1864-1933 Oct.22 64 1916 1932Bernhard (Barney) Dreyfuss J Feb.23 1865-1932 Feb.6 62 1900Joseph John Lannin Apr.23 1866-1928 My.15 62 1913 1916, Nov.

Frank J. Farrell (66)-1926 Feb.10 60

Jacob Ruppert, Jr. Aug.5 1867-1939 Jan.13 71 1915 1939

Tillinghast L' Hommedieu Huston Jul.17 1867-1938 Mar.29 71 1915 1923

Robert Lee Hedges Jul.1 1868-1932 Apr.23 62 1903 1915

James E. Gaffney Mar.7 1868-1932 Aug.17 64 1912 1916Lena Belle (Gladstone) Huston(wife) Jan.10 1869-1949 Nov.4 80 F27,'90 Mr29,'38Charles W. Somers Oct.13 1868-1934 Jun.29 65 1901 1916Clark Calvin Griffith Nov.20 1869-1955 Oct.27 85Robert James Aloysius Quinn Feb. 14 1870-1954 Mar.12 84 1916 1944Ida Virginia Shibe (wife of Thomas) (70)-1952 My.13 82 1901 1952Frank Joseph Navin Apr. 18 1871-1935 Nov.13 64 1904 1935

Florence (Wolf) Dreyfuss Mar.31 1872-1950 My.12 78 1932 1946Charles Henry (Charlie) Weeghman Mar.12 1874-1938 Nov.2 64 1914 1919John I. Taylor Jan.14 1875-1938 Jan.26 63 late,'03 1911

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William Hoover Yawkey Aug.22 1875-1919 Mar.5 1903 1907

Charles Abraham Stoneham Jul.5 1876-1936 Jan.6 59 rly'19 1936Samuel Breadon Jul.26 1876-1949 My.10 72 Ja 20 No 47Walter Owen Briggs, Sr. Feb.27 1877-1952 Jan.17 74 1920 1952William Louis Veeck, Sr. Jan.20 1878-1933 Oct.5 55 1918 1933Emil Edwin (Judge) Fuchs 34 blue Apr.17 1878-1961 Dec.5 83 1923 1935

Harry Herbert Frazee Jun.29 1880-1929 Jun.30 49 1917 1923John Louis Comiskey Aug.12 1885-1939 Jul.18 54 1910 1939Powel Crosley, Jr. Sept.18 1886-1961 Mar.28 74 1936Arthur Cecil Allyn, Sr. My.7 1887-1960 Oct.7 73Leland Stanford (Larry) MacPhail Mar. 3 1890-1975 Oct. 1 85 1935 1947Grace Elizabeth Reidy Comiskey (wife of J. Louis) My.15 1893-1956 Dec.10 63 m.'19Donald Leslie (Don) Barnes My.8 1894-1962 Jul.20 68 1936 Ag10'45Philip Knight Wrigley Dec. 5 1894-1977 Apr. 12 82 1932 1977Ford Christopher Frick Dec. 19 1894-1978 Apr. 8 83 1921 1965Warren Crandall Giles My. 28 1896-1979 Feb. 7 82 1936 1969John Wilmer Galbreath Aug. 10 1897-1988 Jul. 20 90 1946August Anheuser (Gussie) Busch, Jr. ? Mar. 28 1899-1989 Sept.29 90 1953 1989Delbert Eugene (Del) Webb My. 17 1899-1974 Jul. 4 75 1945 1966James J. (Jimmy) Wood (99)-1952 Nov.17 53

Raymond Albert Kroc Oct. 5 1902-1984 Jan.14 81 1984 1990Joan (Whitney) Payson Feb. 5 1903-1975 Oct. 4 72 1961 1975Thomas Austin Yawkey Feb.21 1903-1976 Jul. 9 73 1933 1976Horace Charles Stoneham Apr.27 1903-1990 Jan.7 86 Ja6,36 1976Harry Lillis (Bing) Crosby My. 3 1903-1977 Oct. 14 74 1921Walter Francis O'Malley Oct. 9 1903-1979 Aug. 9 75 1950 1979Orvon Gene Autry Sept.29 1907-1998 Oct. 2 91 1960 1996Walter Owen (Spike) Briggs, Jr. Jul.24 1912-1970 Jul.3 61 1952 Jun.,'56Jean Remington (Hollander) Yawkey Jan.24 1909-1992 Feb.26 83 1976 1992William Drought Cox Nov. 14 1909-1989 Mar. 28 79 1943 1943Calvin Robertson Griffith Dec. 1 1911-1999 Oct. 15 87 Oc 55 1984Daniel Reid Topping, Sr. Jun. 11 1912-1974 My. 18 61Arthur Cecil Allyn, Jr. Dec. 24 1913-1985 Mr. 22 72 1961 1969William Louis (Bill) Veeck, Jr. Feb. 9 1914-1987 Jan. 2 72 1919 1980Emil Joseph (Buzzie) Bavasi Dec. 12 1915-SA99 1951 1984John W. Allyn, Jr. My.28 1917-1979 Apr.29 61 1970 1975Leland Stanford (Lee) MacPhail, Jr. Oct.25 1917-SA02 1945Dorothy (Comiskey) Rigley (daughter of J. Louis) Dec. 26 1917-1971 Jan. 22 54Charles Oscar Finley Feb. 22 1919-1996 Feb. 19 77 1960 1980Jerold Charles Hoffberger Apr. 7 1919-1999 Apr.9 80 1966 1982

Charles Albert Comiskey, Jr. Nov.18 1925- 1957 1959Joan Beverly (Mansfield) Kroc Aug.27 1928-2003 Oct.12 75 1884 1990

William Conrad Bartholomay Aug.11 1928-SA02 1962 1976Margaret (Unnewehr) (Marge) Schott Aug.28 1928- 2004 Mar.2 75 1985 1999

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George Michael Steinbrenner ? Jul. 4 1930-SA02 1973George Leon Argyros, Sr. Feb.4 1937- 1981 Ag 89Robert Edward (Ted) Turner, III Nov. 19 1938-SA02 1976 80'sAndrew Bowen (Andy) MacPhail Apr.5 1953-SA02 1984 SA02Charles W. Somers Oct.13 1868-1934 Jun.28 65 1901 1916John W. Allyn, Jr. My.28 1917-1979 Apr.29 61 1970 1975James E. (Jim) Gaffney Mar.7 1868-1932 Aug.17 64 1912 1916Charles Webb Murphy 1868-1931 Oct.16 63 1906 F21,'14William Frazer Baker 1866-1930 Dec.4 64 1913 1930Ida Virginia Shibe (wife of Thomas) (70)-1952 My.13 82 1901 1952Grace Lucille Comiskey (daughter of J. Louis) 1921-1952 Jun.15 31Frank J. Farrell (66)-1926 Feb.10 60

James J. (Jimmy) Wood (99)-1952 Nov.17 53

Sports General File, miscellaneous Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireJohn Cox Stevens Sept.24 1785-1857 Jun.10 61Albert Goodwill Spalding Sept.2 1850-1915 Sept.9 64 1871

George William Howe Oct.26 1832-1901 Oct.13 69

Alfred James Reach My.25 1840-1928 Jan.14 87 1871

MacLean Kennedy Mar.4 1857-1934 Jun.5 77 1890's 1934John Kinley Tener Jul.25 1863-1946 My.19 82 1913 1918Edson Smith Brewster My. 1865-1954 Mar.12 88 1899 1938Irwin Martin Howe Jun.21 1866-1934 Mar.26 67Kenesaw Mountain Landis 5'6,135 Nov.20 1866-1944 Nov.25 78 1920 1944

Charles Martin Conlon Nov. 1868-1945 Jun. 3 76 1904 1941John Arnold Heydler ? Jul.10 1869-1956 Apr.18 86 1907 1956John T. Doyle (71)-1942 My.21 71 1889 1942Al Munro Elias 1872-1938 Aug.1 67Joseph Potts Sept.15 1873-1953 Jun.19 80 1908Edgar Forrest Wolf (Jim Nasium) 1874-1958 Aug.19 84Ernest Sargent Barnard Jul.17 1874-1931 Mar.31 56Walter Bruce Elias (77)-1948 My.19 71Frederick Wilson Defoe Dec.25 1877-1958 Dec.5 80 1915 1958

Charles C. Pyle 1882-1939 Feb.3 47William Harridge Oct.16 1885-1971 Apr.9 89 1931 1958William Charles (Bill) McCorry Jul. 9 1887-1973 Mar. 22 85 1909 1967Edmund P. Cunningham Feb. 11 1888-1969 Mar. 30 80 1917

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Harold E. Russell Sept.10 1888-1966 Feb. 3 77 1914 1966Leslie M. O'Connor Aug. 31 1889-1966 Jan. 20 77 1921 1959

Edward Thomas Brannick Jul. 22 1890-1975 Jul. 18 85 1911 1971Eugene McGillicuddy, Sr. (Gene Mack) (90)-1953 Jul.8 63 1910Harry Mitchell Grabiner ? Dec.26 1890-1948 Oct. 24 57 1908 1948William Edward Benswanger Feb.22 1892-1972 Jan.15 79William H. (Fifth Down Red) Friesell Feb. 14 1894-1974 Jun. 23 80John J. Farrell, Sr. Apr.30 1895-1979 Nov. 4 83 1970Philip J. (Phil) Troy Sept.17 1896-1975 Mar.25 78Leo A. (Red) Miller Feb. 11 1897-1973 Oct. 18 76 1924 LT 40'sJohn Mahlon Ogden Nov. 5 1897-1977 Nov. 9 80 1918William R. King Jun. 16 1898-1973 Oct. 10 75Albert Benjamin (Happy) Chandler Jul.14, 1898-1991 Jun.15 92 1945 1951Harold (Buck) Greene Jul. 27 1899-1974 Nov. 20 75 1952 1970

William S. (Bill) Eakens Jan.12 1902-1975 Jul.30 73George (Doc) Lentz Nov.30 1902-1975 Nov.11 72John Stanley Phillips Apr.3 1903-1992 Apr.2 88 1923Louis (Lou) Niss Oct. 5 1903-1987 Apr. 30 82 1923 1980Charles M. Segar Oct.29 1903-2001 Jun.2 97 1920 1971James Timothy (Jim) Gallagher Jun. 9 1904-2002 Apr.9 92 1933 1974M. Leo Ward Feb.23 1907-1975 Mar. 17 68 1937 1972William Dole (Spike) Eckert Jan. 20 1909-1971 Apr. 16 62Harold F. Parrott Jan. 10 1909-1987 Jul. 30 78 1928Harold L. (Hal) Middlesworth Sept.19 1909-1984 Apr.24 74Gabriel Howard Paul Jan. 4 1910-1998 Apr. 26 88John David Holland Feb. 18 1910-1979 Jul.15 69Henry Benjamin (Hank) Greenberg J Jan. 1 1911-1986 Sept. 4 75Johnny Orlando Jul.17 1913-1974 Oct.17 61Harold (Hal) Mathewson Nov. 13 1913-1973 Sept.29 59Charles (Chick) O'Malley My.31 1916-1974 Dec.16 56Alexander Sebastian (Al) Campanis Nov. 2 1916-1998 Jun.21 81Marvin Miller Apr. 14 1917-SA00Joseph Walton Haynes Sept. 21 1917-1967 Jan. 6 49 1939 1967Frank Scott Oct. 17 1917-1998 Jun. 28 80Charles Stoneham (Chub) Feeney Aug. 31 1921-1994 Jan.10 72 1946 1986

Bowie Kent Kuhn Oct. 28 1926-SA00 1969Peter Ueberroth Sept. 2 1937-SA00A. Bartlett Giamatti Apr. 4 1938-1989 Sept. 1 51Francis T. (Fay) Vincent, Jr. My. 29 1938-SA00Elvin (Ted) Malick Sept.16 1943-1975 Nov.26 32 1975Harry G. Fallon (01)-1933 Dec.2 32William Grieve

Some well-known Managers & Coaches Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireWilliam Henry (Harry) Wright Jan.10 1835-1895 Oct.3 60 1871 1893Cap(tain) Adrian Constantine Anson Apr.11 1852-1922 Apr.14 70 1871 1897

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Edward Hugh (Ned) Hanlon Aug.22 1857-1937 Apr.14 79 1880 1907

Charles Albert Comiskey Aug.15 1859-1931 Oct.26 72 1910 1931Frank Gibson Selee Oct.26 1859-1909 Jul.5 49 1890 1905William (Buck) Ewing Oct.27 1859-1906 Oct.20 46 1880 1897

John Montgomery (Monte) Ward Mar.3 1860-1925 Mar.4 65 1878 1894

Cornelius Alexander McGillicuddy(Connie Mack) Dec.22 1862-1956 Feb.6 93 1886 1950Wilbert Robinson (Uncle Robby) Jun.29 1863-1934 Aug.8 71 1886 1931James Robert (Jimmy) McAleer Jul.10 1864-1931 Apr.29 61 1889 1913William J. (Kid) Gleason Oct.26 1866-1933 Jan.2 66 1888 1932George Tweedy Stallings Nov.17 1867-1929 My.13 61 1890 1920Edward Grant Barrow My.10 1868-1953 Dec.15 85 1903 1947

Clark Calvin Griffith Nov.20 1869-1955 Oct.27 85 1891 1955Frederick Tenney Nov.26 1871-1952 Jul.3 80 1894 1911Fred Clifford Clarke Oct.3 1872-1960 Aug.14 87 1897 1925John Joseph McGraw Apr.7 1873-1934 Feb.25 60 1891 1932James Timothy (Jimmy) Burke Oct.12 1874-1942 Mar.26 67 1898 1933

Patrick Joseph Moran Feb.7 1876-1924 Mar.7 48 1901 1923Nicholas (Nick) Altrock Sept.15 1876-1965 Jan.20 89 1898 1953Leo Alexander (Lee) Fohl Nov.28 1876-1965 Oct.30 88 1902 1926William Edward (Bill) Friel Apr.1 1876-1959 Dec.24 83 JL1923 Ja 31Frank Leroy Chance Sept.9 1877-1924 Sept.15 47Miller James Huggins Mar.27 1879-1929 Sept.25 50 1904 1929William Francis (Bill) Carrigan Oct. 22 1883-1969 Jul. 8 1906 1929John Albert (Bert) Niehoff My.13 1884-1974 Dec.8 90 1913 1985Burton Edwin (Burt) Shotten Oct.18 1884-1962 Jul.29 77 1909 1950Arthur (Art) Fletcher Jan.5 1885-1950 Feb.6 65 1909 1945Bernhard (Benny) Meyer ? Jan.21 1885-1974 Feb.6 89 1913 1930Daniel Philip (Dan) Howley Oct.16 1885-1944 Mar.10 58 1913 1929William Boyd (Deacon) (Bill) McKechnie Aug.7 1886-1965 Oct.29 79 1907 1953Joseph Vincent McCarthy Apr.21 1887-1978 Jan.13 90 1926 1950

Jewel Winklemeyer Ens ? Aug. 24 1889-1950 Jan. 17 60 1922 1941Charles Dillion (Casey) Stengel Jul.30 1890-1975 Sept.29 85 1912 1965William Harrison (Billy) Southworth Mar.9 1893-1969 Nov.15 76 1913 1951Stanley Raymond (Bucky) Harris Nov.8 1896-1977 Nov. 8 81 1919 1956James Joseph (Jimmy) Dykes Nov.10 1896-1976 Jun.15 79 1919 1964

John Mahlon Ogden Nov.5 1897-1977 Nov.9 80 1918

Charles John (Jolly Cholly) Grimm Aug. 28 1898-1983 Nov. 15 85 1916 1981

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Charles Walter (Chuck) Dressen Sept.20 1898-1966 Aug. 10 67 1925 1966John Walter Cooney Mar. 18 1901-1986 Jul. 8 85 1921 1965Arthur Grant Mills Mar.2 1903-1975 Jul.23 72 1927 1949James Riley Turner Aug. 6 1903-1998 Nov. 29 95 1949 1973Leo Ernest Durocher Jul.27 1905-1991 Oct.7 86 1925 1973

Irving John (Jack) Burns Aug.31 1907-1975 Apr.18 67 1930 1973Anthony Franacis (Cooch) (Tony) Cuccinello Nov. 8 1907-1995 Sept.21 87 1930 1969Alfonso Ramon (Al) Lopez Aug. 20 1908-SA01 1928 1969

Melvin Leroy (Chief) (Mel) Harder Oct. 15 1909-2002 Oct.20 93 1928 1969Frank Peter Joseph (Frankie) Crosetti Oct.4 1910-2002 Feb.11 91 1932 1971Walter Emmons Alston Dec. 1 1911-1984 Oct. 1 72 1954 1976Calvin Robertson Griffith Dec. 1 1911-1999 Oct. 15 87 Oc 65 1984Chalmer Luman Harris Jan.17 1915-1996 Nov.11 81 1941 1972Daniel Edward (Danny) Murtaugh Oct.8 1917-1976 Jan.13 59 My.,'05 1976James Edward (Jim) Hegan Aug. 31 1920-1984 Jun. 17 63 1941 1980Thomas Charles (Tommy) Lasorda Sept.22 1922-SA01 1976 1996Alfred Fred (Red) Schoendienst Feb.2 1923- 1945 1989Solomon Joseph (Solly) Hemus ? Apr. 17 1924-SA01 1949 1965Gene William Mauch Nov.18 1925- 1944 1987Edward Frederick Joseph (Eddie) Yost Oct.13 1926-SA01 1944 1984Alfred Manuel (Billy) Martin My. 16 1928-1989 Dec.25 61 1950 1988Vernon Thomas (Vern) Morgan Aug. 7 1928-1975 Nov.8 47 1954 1975Earl Sidney Weaver Aug. 14 1930-SA01 1968 1986Donald William (Don) Zimmer Jan.1 1931- 1954 currentWilliam Charles (Bill) Virdon Jun. 9 1931-SA00Dorrel Norman Elvert (Whitey) Herzog Nov. 9 1931-SA00George Lee (Sparky) Anderson Feb. 22 1934-SA01 1959 1995Calvin Edwin (Cal) Ripken, Sr. Dec.17 1935-1999 Mar.25 63 1976 1992Joseph Paul (Joe) Torre Jul.18 1940-SA 1960Robert Joseph (Bobby) Cox My.21 1941-SA 1978Anthony "Tony" Larussa, Jr. Oct.4 1944- 1978 currentCharles Oliver (Charlie) Hough Jan.5 1948- 1970 1994Jonhnnie B. (Dusty) Baker, Jr. Jun.15 1949-SA

Baseball Scouts Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireLawrence (Larry) Sutton Jul. 1 1858-1944 Jun.23 85 1909 1932

Richard F. (Dick) Kinsella Oct.21 1862-1939 Oct.14 76 1907 1932John Joseph (Jack) Doyle Oct.25 1869-1958 Dec.31 88 1889 1958Charles Francis Barrett Jun.14 1871-1939 Jul. 4 63 1908 1939Edward William Holly Jul.6 1879-1973 Nov.27 94 1906Roy Isaac Largent Sept.28 1879-1943 Sept.26 63 1925 1942William Thomas (Billy) Doyle Nov.4 1881-1939 Sept.23 57 1939Bessie Hamilton Largent (82)-1958 Sept.26 76Paul Bernard Krichell Dec.19 1882-1957 Jun.4 74Elmer S. (Doc) Bennett Feb. 1 1891-1974 Mar.31 83 1943 1949William Joseph Barrett My. 28 1900-1951 Jan. 26 50 1921 1951

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Clyde Leroy Sukeforth Nov.30 1901-2000 Sept.3 98 1926Roderick Blan (Wog) Rice Dec.18 1902-1975 Apr.23 72Thomas Greenwade ? Aug. 21 1904-1986 Aug. 9 81Allen L. (Andy) Andrews Dec. 22 1904-1973 Aug. 31 68 1962 1973William Herschel Bobo Jan. 28 1906-1975 Feb. 19 76Neil T. Mahoney Nov. 21 1906-1973 My. 23 68 1939 1973Mathias C. (Matt) Klein Jul. 6 1910-1973 Nov. 15 62 1966 1971Ira Hutchinson ? Aug. 31 1910-1973 Aug. 21 62 1933 1973Howard F. (Howie) Haak Aug.28 1911-1999 Feb.12 87Rex Bowen (11)-2004 Dec.30 93Harold T. (Hal) Martin, Sr. Feb. 10 1914-1974 Jan. 29 59 1954 1959Clifford A. Alexander Apr. 13 1914-1975 Jun. 30 61Joseph Patrick Monahan Mar. 3 1918-1973 Aug. 30 55 1947 1973James J. Russo Apr.22 1922-2004 Feb.8 81 1951 1986William BarrettTed McGrew

AL Umpires Born Born-Died Died AgeJohn F. Sheridan 1862-1914 Nov.2 52Robert Lee (Bob) Carruthers Jan.5 1864-1911 Aug.5 47Timothy Carroll Hurst Jun. 30 1865-1915 Jun. 4 49Montford Montgomery (Monte) Cross Aug.31 1869-1934 Jun.21 64 1892 1907, '14Thomas Henry Connolly Dec. 31 1870-1961 Ap.28 90John Joseph (Jack) (Rip) Egan Jul.9 1871-1950 Dec.22 79

Harley Park Parker Jun.14 1872-1941 Mar.3 68Francis H. (Silk) O'Loughlin Aug. 15 1872-1918 Dec. 20 46Rhoderick John (Bobby ) Wallace Nov. 4 1873-1960 Nov. 3 87Dominic J. Mullaney 1874-1964 Aug. 21 90William Edward Friel Apr. 1 1876-1959 Dec.24 83William Henry Dinneen Apr. 26 1876-1955 Jan. 13 78Frederick E. Westervelt 1876-1955 My.4 79Fred (Bull) Perrine (77)-1915 Jun. 4 38Richard Francis (Dick) Nallin Feb. 26 1878-1956 Sept.7 78George Albert Hildebrand Sept. 6 1878-1960 My. 30 81Clarence Henry (Pants) Rowland Feb. 12 1879-1969 Mar. 17 90John E. (Jack) Stafford (80)-1946 My.19 66Howard Elbert (Ducky) Holmes Jul. 8 1883-1945 Sept.18 62William George (Billy) Evans Feb. 10 1884-1956 Jan. 23 71George Joseph Moriarty Jul. 7 1884-1964 Apr. 8 80Clarence B. (Brick) Owens Mar. 31 1885-1949 Nov. 11 64William J. Guthrie 1886-1950 Mar. 6 64Harry Christian Geisal Jul. 10 1888-1966 Feb.19 75Clarence E. Eldridge (89)-1981 Feb. 7 92Frank Wilson (90)-1928 Jun. 12 38William M. (Bick) Campbell, Jr. 1892-SA48Louis Charles Kolls Dec. 15 1892-1941 Feb.23 48Emmet T. (Red) Ormsby Apr. 3 1895-1962 Oct. 11 67William Reed Summers Sept.12 1895-1966 Sept.12 71William Aloysus (Bill) McGowan Jan. 18 1896-1954 Dec. 9 58

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Edwin Americus Rommel Sept.13 1897-1970 Aug.26 72Roy R. (Cotton) Van Graflin Feb. 14 1899-1953 Sept. 4 59Cal Robert Hubbard 6'4,250 Oct.31 1901-1977 Oct.17 76Charles Francis Berry Oct. 18 1902-1972 Sept. 6 69Edwin H. Hurley Sept.20 1908-1969 Nov.12 61 1947 1965John W. Stevens My.14 1912-1981 Sept. 69 1946 1971John F. (Red) Flaherty Apr.25 1917-1999 Apr.1 81Joseph O'Brien (75)-1925 Nov. 5 50Jack Pollock (78)-1930 Nov.14 52Gerald Hayes -1929 Dec.22James E. Hassett (71)-1934 Mar.4 63John MullinOliver P. (Ollie) Chil

NL UmpiresWilliam Harrison (Harry) Wright Jan.10 1835-1895 Oct.3 60Alfred L. Barker Jan.18 1839-1912 Sept.12 73Robert Vavasour (Bob) Ferguson Jan.31 1845-1894 My.2 49Charles F. Daniels (49)-1932 Mar.23 83Phillip J. (Phil) Powers Jul.26 1854-1914 Dec.23 62Charles Nicholas (Pop) Snyder Oct. 6 1854-1924 Oct. 29 70John H. Gaffney Jun.29 1855-1913 Aug.8 58Robert Daniel Emslie Jan. 21 1859-1943 Apr. 26 84George Edward Andrews Apr.5 1859-1934 Aug.12 75Hiram G. (Buck) Ebright Jun. 12 1859-1916 Oct. 20 57Thomas J. Lynch (59)-1924 Feb. 27 65F. J. Hawkins (60)-1914 My.13 54Wesley (Wes) Curry Apr.1 1860-1933 My.19 73John A. (Jack) Holland (61)-1915 Nov.10 54Charles Bentley Power (61)-1913 Feb.5 52Joseph D. (Pongo Joe) Cantillion Aug.19 1861-1930 Dec.31 69Henry Francis (Hank) O'Day Jul. 8 1862-1935 Jul. 2 72August (Augie) Moran Dec. 22 1868-1964 Mar. 6 96George W. Bausewine Mar.22 1869-1947 Jul.29 81Montford Montgomery (Monte) Cross Aug.31 1869-1934 Jun.21 64 1914 1915Stephen J. Kane (70)-1915 Oct.30 45William J. (Lord) Byron Sept. 8 1872-1955 Dec. 27 83William J. Klem Feb.22 1874-1951 Sept.1 77Malcolm W. Eason Mar. 13 1879-1970 Apr. 16 91Charles Barthell Moran Feb.22 1879-1949 Jun.14 70Ernest C. (Ernie) Quigley Mar. 22 1880-1960 Dec.10 80

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Eugene Fenley (Bob) Hart Aug.29 1880-1937 My.10 57Ed Walsh My.14 1881-1959 My.26 88George Cockill, Sr. (81)-1937 Nov.2 56Charles (Cy) Rigler My. 16 1882-1935 Dec.21 53Sherwood Robert Magee Aug.6 1884-1929 Mar.13 44Henry Hancock (Ted) McGrew Jun.24 1885-1969 Jun. 29 89James E. (Jim) Johnstone -1927 Jun. 15Harry S. (Steamboat) Johnson 1885-1951 Feb. 20 66George Levi Magerkurth 6'3,225 Dec. 30 1888-1966 Oct. 7 77Frank Wilson (90)-1928 Jun. 12 38Charles H. (Cy) Pfirman Feb. 27 1891-1937 My. 16 46George McKinley Barr Jul. 19 1892-1974 Jul. 26 82Albert D. (Dolly) Stark Nov. 4 1897-1968 Aug. 24 70John Edward (Beans) Reardon Nov. 23 1897-1984 Jul. 31 86John Bertrand (Jocko) Conlon Dec. 6 1899-1989 Mar. 16 89Edward Lee Ballanfant Dec. 27 1899-1987 Jul. 15 91Thomas David Gorman Mar. 16 1916-1986 Aug. 11 66Michael J. Charles (Sandy) McDermott (62)-1922 Nov.23 60Willard A. Hoagland (62)-1936 Oct.11 74John H. Conway (69)-1932 Feb.27 63Edward J. (Ed) Conahan (77)-1929 Jul.13 52Leopold T. (Paul) Sentelle (78)-1923 Apr.27 45William T. (Bill) Brennan (85)-1933 Sept.13 47David F. (Dave) Sullivan -1890 Jan. 3Michael J. Mahoney -1916 Sept. 5Bud Lally -1932 Jan.4Alfred S. (Al) Manassau -1933 Oct.13John H. (Jack) McQuaid -1895 Apr.16Peter A. (Pete) Harrison -1921 My.10Garnet C. Bush -1920 Jan. 13?

Concerning BB's Hall of Fame, I nominate Charles Comiskey, Kenesaw Landis, & Ban Johnson for immediate expulsion. I further nominate these names for enshrinement:

Francis C. Richter, John B. Foster, Ferdinand C. Lane and Sam Crane for the Taylor Spink Award. They were superhuman in their efforts to promote BB and the volume of work they did on BB's behalf.

Sports Writers Work Still In Progress Born Born-Died Died Age Start RetireDavid Litton Reid (48)-1885 My.2 37 1870'sMichael J. Kelly (40)-1873 Jun.27 33 1800's

George W. Munson Aug. 1860-1908 Mar. 14 47 1883 1908

Charles G. Seymour (63?)-1901 My.18 1890William McDonald Spink (Taylor's uncle) 1840-1885 Jun.31? 37 1860

E. B. Choate ?James C. HamiltonJohn J. Ward -1937 Jun.2? 1912? 1937?A..B. (June) Rankin 1855?;SA1894, Oct.12 1875Edward D. Soden Jul. 8 1878-SA33 1908

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Charles E. Parker Sept. 9 1890-SA42 1914 1939?

George Leonard Moreland 1862 - ('34-'37) 1890?Lee Scott Jan.26 1901-1968 Mar.Lloyd McGowan -1979Russell G. Lynch Jun.27 1899-1979 My. 79 1922 1956

Richard P. Koster Aug.1 1934-1994 Jul.2 58Arthur E. Morrow My.25 1918-SA72 1950?William E. (Bill) Driscoll Jan.1 1923-1996 Jun.13 73Jack M. Mullaney Jun.9 1919-1985 Dec. 66Robert Wesley Beall Jul.10 1900- 1911Arthur O. W. Anderson 1901-SA42 Jan.14,'58? 1914?

B. F. Wright d. by My.'36Howard Roberts SA84 1960?Hub Miller SA52,Mar. 1944?

Arnold Hano Mar. 2 1922-SA76 1954Alfred M. (Al) Thomy Jan.1 1925-SA04 1955 1986Henry Harold Singer Oct.29 1892-SA58 1923Ross E. Kauffman Nov. 19 1885-1964 Apr. 78 1908 1950Frederick J. Bendel Jun. 12 1891-1968 Sept. 77Aloysius C. Palma My.23 1895-1985 My. 1918William V. (Bill) Reddy Apr. 30 1909-1973 Nov. 64Wilfred Charles (Bill) Heinz Jan. 11 1915-SA00 Sp 45Roger Angell Sept.19 1920-Donald Parker Aug. 28 1929-1973 Nov. 44Roland A. Hemond Oct. 26 1929- 1970Tom Ferguson Jul. 2 1930- 1961William Yale Giles Sept. 7 1934-SA99Roy Tenny My.25 1895-1924 My. 18 28 1937James M. Nellis -1932 Dec.17Charles W. Miller -1933 Jul.29George D. Ahearn (99)-1932 Jul.30Edward Hogan -1933 Nov.12Frank M. Smith -1933 Nov. 2

James M. (Doc) Fletcher -1941 Jan. 8 1880'sStephan J. Mahoney -1949 Apr. 1 55Christy Gress -1973 Mar. 28 1948 1951

C. Edmund (Ed) Fisher -1973 Sept.19Frank Lander (77)-1934 Dec.23 57Murray ChassRobert Wolff SA86Frank Deford Apr.4 1944-SA01 1964?Jack O'Connell SA04Gerry Hearn SA54Henry McKenna SA65

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Ed Grayson SA32Charles Regan SA32Walter Smith SA43Herman BreibartJim Kahn ?Dwight FreeburgDave Nightingale SA94 1970SA98 = still alive as of 1998

States Vitals, Births, Deaths State death certificates: California, Ohio, Florida,Michigan, DC,NY(not NYC)Rhode Island deaths 1900-1930Oregon deaths 1903-1998 States Which Restrict Utah deaths 1905-1951 Access To Vital RecordsCal. Deaths 1905-2000 Alaska Alabama deaths 1908-1959 Arizona Kentucky deaths 1911-2001 1877-1916, 1999-01 Delaware Idaho deaths 1911-1945 Idaho Georgia deaths 1919-1998 IllinoisFlorida deaths 1936-1998 ??, more?? Indiana California deaths 1940-1947 Louisiana Connecticut deaths 1949-1996 1650's-1930 Minnesota Texas Deaths 1956-2000 Missousi,death yes,birthOhio deaths 1958-1998 Nevada Texas deaths 1964-1998 New JerseyMaine deaths 1960-1997 New Mexico North Carolina deaths 1968-1996 Oklahoma Michigan deaths 1971-1996 PennsylvaniaVermont deaths 1989-1998 Texas

Wisconsin Wisconsin births & deaths 1820-1907 WyomingIndiana Births 1880-1920 NYCNYC births 1891-1902Cal. Births 1905-1995Kentucky Births 1911-2001Texas Births 1926-1997Massachusetts town birthsRhode Island births 1800-1930

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Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Exeter, St. Thomas, Brooklyn,NY NY sp.wr.,author; Family moved Brooklyn,NY(Sept.21,1837); NY Times cricket reports(1856), Brooklyn Eagle cricket,BB ed.(1856-94), NY Herald, NY World sp wr(13yrs), NY Sun(6yrs), Sp. News, Sp. Life, Yankee Clipper(1858-?) Ball Players' Chronicle(1867-69).

(Chadwick,continued), In 1896, NL voted him pension for life.Editor-in-chief of NL Spalding baseball guide until his death(1881-08), succeeded in that function by John B. Foster, who carried that job until his death('41) in Wash.DC. d. pneumonia(Chadwick,continued) He is buried at Greenwood Cemetery, Brooklyn,NY

Cedar Grove, NJ NYC Phil. Spwr.; Phil. Sunday Mercury reporter. Succeeded Henry Chadwick as New York Clipper writer. Was 1st to compile NL ave. & 1st Philadelphia A's scorer. Toured England in 1874 with Phil. Athletics. Managed the Philadelphia team in 1876Painted Post, NY; B West Suburban, IL Chicago spwr.; Minnesota regiment in Civil War. St. Paul Pioneer Press managing ed. Chicago Tribune sp. ed., musical, drama ed. (1868-75) night ed. (1875-83); American Economist ed. (1898-1918). One of organizers of original Chicago BB team. d. of pneumonia in West Suburban HospitalNew Haven, VT Chicago, IL Chicago Tribune sp. ed.(1860's-70's) Helped popularized BB in Chicago. Used box scores. Along with William Hulbert, he formulated the plan to organize the National League. Was present at famous fire in 1871 on roof. Chicago Tribune reporter in 1860's. One of 1st to use box scores.

(Meacham) Delta Kappa Epsilon. Prepared Phillips Academy, Andover; A. C., 1867. Tutor Christian College, Indiana, 1868; reporter and proof reader Times and Tribune, Chicago, Illinois, 1869-71; private secretary to Mayor Medill, 1871-72; editor at the Rutland Herald, 1874; reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Rutland Herald, 1874;(Meacham) reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Tribune, 1875-78. Private in the Vermont Regiment and 1st Lieutenant of the New York Highlanders, 1862-65. Son of Rev. James and Mary F.

Greencastle,PA Brooklyn,NY NY spwr.; Started in 1870 with Rockland County Journal, Nyack, NY; NY Times, NY Tribune, NY World, NY Mail, NY Express, official scorer for the Mutual club; NY Clipper ed. (30 yrs.), succeeded Al Wright as editor, d. Apoplexy, heart disease at homeDayton,OH NYC Cincinnati & New York sports writer; Cincinnati Enquirer sp.ed.(1874-81), Helped found Amer. Ass. & secured a Cinc. franchise in it(Nov.,1881),Cincinnati Commercial Gazette('81-87), NY Daily(1887), served as Reds Secretary / buss. man. through 1886.

(Caylor,continued), Carthage,MO newspaper(1888), The Sporting News(NY,ed. - 1889-1890), NY Herald(Baseball ed. 1892-1897,death). Official scorer for NY Giants. Also managed Cincinnati(AA,1885-86) & NYMetropolitans(AA,1887).(Caylor,continued),Accepted administrative job with NY Metropolitans(1886).Accepted job as on-field manager of team(June,1886-end of season).Team was in 7th & he couldn't improve team's standing by season's end.Famed for caustic sarcastic, humor & wit.(Caylor,continued), d. developed tubercular tumors in his throat, resigned his post at the Herald,NY in Sept.,'97, went to Winona,MN to recuperate 6 weeks before his death, where they burst & killed him by asphyxia.

Naugatuck,CT Boston,MA Boston sports writer; former ML 1B(1872-78,84), Founded Boston Referee(1885), Boston Globe spwr. & sp.ed.(1888-1917,Feb.7, death). President: New England L. : 24 yrs. Buried: Old Calvary Cemetery, Roslindale, MA

Yarmouth, England Magnolia Springs,AL Chicago spwr.; Chicago Tribune sp. ed., Chicago Inter-Ocean (1890's); Conceived The Racing Form, Players Brotherhood secretaryNew Albany,IN West View,PA Pittsburgh sports writer,Pirates scorekeeper; Pitts. Times(1880-?),Pitts. Post(promoted to sp.ed 1890-1905, Pitts. Gazette('05-12), Moreland News Bureau('13-14),Pittsburgh Leader,Pittsburgh official scorer(1893-1932). Began sp. dept. in early newspapers.Springfield,MA NYC NY sp. wr.; Studied civil engineering at MIT for 2 yrs.,ML best 2nd baseman(1880-90), managed Buffalo in NL(1879-80) & Cincinnati(U,1884). Old Atlantic League Pres.(1895), New York Press sp.wr.(1890-98), NY Journal(1898-1925).

(Crane,continued), one of McGraw's closest friends, fought with him often.Made all road trips with Giants. Arguably most beloved sp.wr.of his day. d. developed pneumonia during Giants western swing.Arrived home in Bronx, went right to bed,couldn't rally.(Crane,continued), When Tim Murnane of Boston died Feb.7,1917, Crane became the new "Dean of Sports Writers". Knew many things due to his close proximity to McGraw, never was known to take advantage of it to "scoop" rival writers.

Phil.,PA Phil., PA Phil. sportswriter; Was editor-in-chief of Reach Official American League Base Ball Guide(1902-1926,Feb.12, death); Died the day after the manuscript of the 1925 Reach Guide was completed.(Richter,continued), drew up National Agreement(1883), helped place Phil Club in AA(1882), Helped place Phil club in NL(1883),helped assimilate AA into NL(1891), drew up Millenium Plan which ended BB war.Richly deserves BB Hall of Fame.Whole existence-BB (Richter,cont.),For a long lifetime of service to BB at its highest levels,I nominate him for the Taylor Spink Award. His every waking moment was happily devoted to BB. In Apr. '46, he & 11 others were elected to H of F as sp. writers( Honor Rolls).(Richter,continued) In 1880, he started the 1st sports dept. ever in a newspaper, The Public Ledger. Mr. Richter was offered the Presidency of the National League in 1907. He declined due to his obligations to the AL Reach Guide & his own Sporting Life. (Richter,continued) For many years, he ws one of the official scorers for the World's Series games, sharing the honor with JG Taylor Spink, publisher of the Sporting News.(Richter,continued) He founded Sporting Life in 1883, a weekly baseball paper, which became a great force in BB until he disposed of it in 1917, during the War. The motto of his publication, "Devoted to the Baseball Men and Measures, With Malice Toward None and Charity for All," sums up the character of Mr. Richter.

(Richter,continued) He was a columnist for Sporting News from Dec.8, 1921 - Sept., 1925. His column, Casual Comment was often addressed to administrative matters. He was always at the top of the BB world, albeit behind the scenes, working for the betterment of the game he loved so much. His every waking hour was devoted to BB.Quebec Provence,C Oak Park,IL St. Louis, Sp. N. Publisher; His family were from Quebec, Canada. After the Civil War, the family moved to Chicago, IL. In 1875, Al moved to St. Louis, and became a great fan of the St. Louis Stockings. Sp. ed. of 3 papers; Globe-Democrat, Missouri Republican, Post-Dispatch. Founded The Sporting News on March 17, 1886-95

(Spink, continued) 1st Pres. Of western League, started a number of ball clubs & leagues before launching Sporting News. Authored several books. Ed. Reach Guide '88. Press agent of Chris Von der Ahe, interested him in BB. Called brother Charles to St. Louis from S. Dakota to be bus. man. of Sp. N.

Auckland,NZ San Francisco,CA SF,Chi.; San Francisco Chronicle spwr. (1886-?), New Zealand Herald (1870-?), San Francisco Examiner (1888-1914), Chicago Examiner (2 yrs.), baseball & boxing authority. Chicago American sp.ed. Wrote "Kings of the Queensberry Realm." A foremost boxing authority. Covered major boxing bouts of his time. (Naughton, continued) d. at home from heart disease aggravated by acute indigestion

NYC NYC NYC spwr.; Grad. City College, 1876. NY Sun (1885-?) Regarded Ruth greatest player, McGraw, greatest manager, Mathewson, greatest pitcher.Brooklyn,NY NYC NY sp. wr.; NY Morning World, NY World (1893-13). d. complications involving both lungs and heart, occasioned by a chill he contracted eaNebraska Newfoundland,NJ NY, Kansas City spwr.; Grad.Lafayette College, Easton,PA (1878); Kansas City Star, Arrived NYC (1888), NY Herald, NY Press (1893),NY Sun (1900-16), NY Herald ('16-24), Herald-Tribune ('24-May,'30,death); Acknowledged expert on baseball, football & billiards.New Bern, NC Cincinnati,OH St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1892-95), Sporting News ed.(1895-1906), Moved Cinc.('12), serving as secretary to August Herrmann, chairman of National Commission,1906-1921), until Landis became Commissioner. Retired on pension. d. Heart disease after long illness.

(Flanner, continued) South Dakota homesteader. Finished law apprenticeship, served as first state'sattorney for Lawrence County. In 1892, after 16 yrs at the bar, left South Dakota, for St. Louis, Mo. Named sp. Ed. Of St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Joined Sporting news 3 yrs. later.NYC Detroit, New York sp. ed.: NY Press(1914), Had been sports writer for NY newspapers, and then turned to boxing referee. Had refereed the Jack Sharkey/Max Schmeling fight. He voted for Schmeling and was much criticized for it. He died a yr. later.

(Mathison, continued) d. At home in Brooklyn, NY. He had been in ill health since the death of his wife a year before. Had been best known for his work with the Evening Mail. Circleville, OH Cincinnati sp.ed.; Cinc. Enquirer sp. ed. (1880-1900), trained many of the early 19th century sports writers while a sp. ed at Enquirer. Heavily into boxing. Devestating stroke Feb.25, 1900, at 290 lbs. ended his work. When Harry died, he was replaced by Ren Mulford. Burial: Forest Cemetary, Circleville, OH

(Weldon, continued) Was Chris Von Ahe's secretery until Oct. 22, 1886, then became secretery of the Cincinnati baseball team under Mr. Stern. Bardstown,KY Louisville,KY sp.wr.; Louisville Times sp. wr.

Monmouth,IL Biloxi,MS Chicago sp.wr.; US Navy; Chicago Sunday Times reporter(1889-1890), San Francisco Examiner sp.wr.(1890), NY Evening Journal(1898-99), Phil. North American(1899-1905), Chicago Tribune('06-08), Chicago Examiner('08-17), Chicago Herald & Examiner('18-21). (Dryden, continued), He was one of the 1st, most popular & most influential baseball writers who ever lived. Humorist influenced a generation of following baseball writers. Suffered devastating stoke('21) left him disabled. Awarded Spink award('65).

PA Germantown,Phil,PA Philadelphia Inquirer Sp. ed.; 25% owner of Phil. Athletics from 1901 until fall 1912, sold his shares to Connie Mack. Had good knowlege of many sports. Phil. Press Secretery of Athletics (1905) d. at home, was ill for some months, interred at West Laurel Hill Cemetery, Cincinnati,OH Cincinnati,OH Cincinnati sports writer; Cincinnati Post editor, When Henry Weldon died in 1890's, Ren replaced him on the Cinc. Enquirer. Sporting Life's Cincinnati's correspondent, around 1911. d. acute intestinal obstruction, buried Spring Grove Cemetery, Cincinnati, OH

(Zuber, continued) After several years on the Cincinnati Enquirer, Ren quit to work for an advertising agency till his death.

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Madison,OH Madison,OH Cleveland sports writer; Started on Painesville Telegraph(1880-?),Sporting Life correspondent(1897), Cleveland Press sp. ed.(20 yrs).(also wrote column "Little Old Man", loved for it's intimate feel. Also Cleveland Leader('11),World, Herald, News. Founded(Bates, continued), Madison News('18-27), Lake County Republican Herald associate editor('27- 30,death). He espoused writing brevity, accuracy and warmth. He called many famous people friend. Graduated Madison Seminary, Madison Kiwanis sec.many yrs.

Concord,NH Brookline,MA Boston sports writer; Grad. Roxbury Latin Sch.(1877), Harvard College(1881), Boston U. Law Sch.(1884); Boston Herald(1884-1907, sp.ed.1884-1901), Secretary of New England Baseball League, became insurance man(1915), (Morse, continued) Wrote a history of Baseball(Sphere & Ash,1888).Helped launch Baseball Magazine('08) & was one of its' Presidents & editors 'til 1912. Boston Traveler( ?-37, death).Managed Boston Nationals(U,1884). D. Heart attack at home, cremated.

Boston, MA Brookline,MA Boston sports writer; Boston Post reporter(1889-1891), Boston Journal sp.ed.(1891-06,Oct.), Boston Herald sp.ed.('06-11), Boston Globe('11-33)(sp.ed.'14-33)(Emeritus,'33-40).Pittsburgh, PA Pitts. spwr. for many years, NL umpire,1902; (Sporting News, Jan.1,1914, death roll of 1913; d. at home of nervous breakdown.

Council Bluffs, IA Goshen, NY NY spwr.; editor of The American Magazine; at least as early as 1908; ed. of McClure's. Charleston,NH Boston, MA Boston spwr.; Started as a telegrapher in Boston (1882), Pittsburgh, Buffalo. Boston Globe telegrapher (1890-92), copy desk ('92-13), spwr. (1913-38).

(Hanna, continued) m. Eva A. Baker on Dec. 25,1884 in Maryville,Nodaway,MO; d. Stricken with stroke(apoplexy) May 24,1930, was taken to Army cadet hospital for 3 wks, and transferred to Idylease sanitarium,Newfoundland,NJ at his wishes to be near his(Hanna, continued), brother, Thomas K. Hanna. His style was noted for his eschewing of slang such as "swat,pill,horsehide",etc. His choice of words were those less chosen,terse,precise,kind. His style was succinct, his knowledge encyclopedic.

Maine Washington, DC Wash.DC free-lance sp. wr.; Sporting Life; around 1910-20, at least Sporting News until 1931; Towards the end of his life, he did government work as a correspondent for the State Dept..England Pittsburgh sp.wr;Pitts. Post;BB statistician,wrote baseball history(Balldom,'14);Managed Canton in Tri-State League(1890)Original member BWAA('08),representing Pittsburgh.Involved with Louisville club(1890's);Organized Inter-State minor League(fall,1894).

Norwalk,OH Wash.,D.C. NY spwr.; Norwalk HS, OH; st. ed.; Clev. Press gen. rep. & state ed., Clev. Leader sp.ed.(?-1888), Arrived NYC (1896), NY Evening Telegraph sp.ed. & city ed.(1896-11), NY Journal, NY Herald, NY Sun (1920-31), Consolidated Press Ass. (1918-20),(Foster) Credited with promoting Army Navy game at the Polo Grounds into national interest. Years on BB 's rules committee. Considered an authority on BB law, rules, admin. Credited with answering 500,000 questions on BB rules,(Foster) laws, and various phases of BB. Wrote digest of rules for the French. Was named official authority for rules for Japan. Official scorer at Polo Grounds. Couldn't attend games after '32, due to right side paralyzed. Followed BB via radio,papers.

(Foster) Giants' Secretary & business manager(Jan. 6, '13-1919, Dec. 4);Father:Francis Boardman:Mother;Flora Ann Beebe. Paralyzed on his right side his last 9 yrs., Buried: funeral services in NYC, cremated, ashes buried Rock Hill Cemetery, Foxboro, MA(Foster,continued), Editor-in-Chief of Spalding Official NL Base Ball Guide (1908-1941).Foster was a close second to his friend F. Richter in the baseball accomplishments he was able to achieve in a long BB lifetime.Like Richter, a must for Spink Award.(Foster, continued) When John was 18, for his 1st job, he was appointed the Postmaster of his village of Norwalk, OH. After the next election, he was left without a job, and went to work for the Cleveland Press.

Wash.D.C. Wash. sp. wr.; Wash. Evening Star, Wash. Post, Wash. Sunday Herald (1894-?) Boston Herald. Cincinnati, OH Denver, CO Denver, CO sp.ed.; Raised in Chicago,IL, Managed boxers & promoted prize fights, Chicago White Stockings GM (1886), Arrived Denver,CO in 1883, at age of 20 & stayed all his life. Became sports columnist for Denver Post within weeks of

(Floto, continued) arriving in Denver. As boxing manager, he guided Bob Fitzsimmons and Jack Dempsey. As sports editor, he guided Gene Fowler and Damon Runyon. Was regarded as a Dean of Sports Writers. Colorful, knew famous sp. figures, Ruth, McGraw.(Floto) since last Sept., when stricken with epilepsy. Organiz. Otto Floto dog and pony show, out of which grew Selis-Gloto circus.Huge fight fan, saw most heavy-weight cham. fights. Schooled at Jesuit inst. in Dayton, OH. Kansas City, MO sp.ed. 2 yrs.

Norwalk,OH St. Louis,MO Chi. Riverside Cemetery,Spencer,Owen County,Indiana

Hamilton,Ont.,Cana Chicago,IL Chicago sp.wr.; Hamilton Spectator(Ontario) reporter, 1881, Sporting Journal(1888-1890), Chicago Times reporter, sp.ed.(1891-94), San Francisco Chronicle sp.ed.(1895), New Orleans Item(1896), Lake County Times man.ed.(1900-05), d. after 6 wk. illness(Keough, continued) Chicago Tribune sp. wr. & columnist (1905-12). While at The Chicago Tribune, he started and made famous The Wake of the News from 1905-12. It's thought to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Worked newspapers 31 yrs.

Boston,MA Irving-on-Hudson,NY? NY spwr.; Covered amateur athletes, was credited with createding All-America FB team, appearing for the 1swt time in 1889; authored books on sports, contributed to many outdoor publications, as free lance writer.Saxonburg, PA Overbrook, PA Pittsburgh spwr.; Raised Pittsburgh in his early youth. Pittsburgh Chronicle Telegraph sp. ed.,(1885-06) Also covered boxing under pen name Jim Jab. Began medical studies '06, U. of Pittsburgh, '10 medical degree. Practiced medicine into his 80's. Kentland, IN IN Chicago spwr.; Chicago Record (1890-1900) covered many sports. Grad. Purdue U. 1887, did newspaper work from 1887, moved Chicago June, 1890, moved quickly from cub to star reporter. In '93, collaborated with illustrator partner John McCutcheon at Chicago Morning News on editorial page columns

(Ade, continued) describing Columbian Exposition, then he began his regular column "Stories of the Streets and of the Town". Paper became the Record. Began "fables in slang" in 1897. The Record published 8 collections of his columns. Left jornalism in 1900, did plays, musicals, screenplays. Was acknowleged as great master humorist. Oswego,NY Little Neck,Queens,NY NY sports writer; arrived NYC(1889), NY Sun(1889-95), NY Recorder(1895-1901), NY Herald ass. sp.ed.('01-20), NY Times day assistant to sp.ed.(March 5,'22-39).Albany,VT Canandaigua, NY Chi.Boston,MA Brooklyn,NY NYC SP WR 1893-1934Toledo,OH Detroit,MI Det.,Toledo, Cinc. sportswriter; Toledo, OH, Cincinnati, Detroit Free Press, city ed. & sp. ed., Detroit Journal, sp. ed, Detroit News, sp. ed.,

Chicago,IL NYC Chicago writer; Political cartoonist created Mr. Dooley, saloon owner, wry observations on issues entertained readers for 30 yrs. His cartoons are collected in book forms. Chicago Daily News editorials & sports(1884-88), Chicago Times('1888-89)Dunne, continued), as political reporter,ed.wr. ,city ed.,Chicago Tribune reporter,ed.Sunday ed., Chicago Herald reporter(1890), Chicago Evening Post ed. page(1892), Chicago Journal managing ed.(1897-00), NYC Harper's Weekly/collier's Weekly('00-02),Dunne,continued),NY Morning Telegraph('02-04),American Magazine wrote dialect essays & monthly ed. In the Interpreter's House('06-13),Collier's Weekly political commentary('13-15,editor-in-chief '17-19).Payne Whitney died('24) & gave $500K to Dunne), When Payne Whitney died in 1924, he bequeathed $500,000. to Dunne, far more than enough to enable Dunne to live the rest of his life in high lavish fashion without need of further work. d. throat cancer hemorrhaging after long battle.

Missouri Coral Gables,FL St. Louis, Chicago sp. ed.; St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp. ed., Chicago Tribune sp. ed.(?-36). Called Judge due to his officiating at many race tracks in the US & Canada.Damascus,OH Wilkinsburg,PA Pittsburgh sp. wr.; Pittsburgh Post('03-27), Pittsburgh Post-Gazette('27-46). Never wrote an unkind word about a player, extremely popular sp.wr. around league. Pittsburgh,PA Ventnor, NJ Pittsburgh Press sp. ed.(1893-1903),Pirates secretary('03-12,fall),Phil. Phillies owner & President('13).On Jan.15,'13,he headed a group that included his cousin,William F. Baker & Governor Tener of Penn. that bought the Phillies.Locke named Pres.,d. '13.

(Locke, continued) He became ill in Feb. '13, and had to give up duties in May,

Hollywood,CA Chicago sp. ed.; Chicago Times sp. ed. in the early 1890's, Chicago Chronicle sp. ed., Chicago American sp. ed. (1907-1927), Los Angeles sp. ed.; Moved to California around 1927 for his health. Had been a well-known boxing/wrestling referee. (Smith, continued) Refereed many memorable fights. As a writer, he specialized in boxing/wrestling with occasional incursions into racing. d. In Hollywood Hospital, CA, from a paralytic stroke. Refereed Jack Johnson/Jim Flynn, Arthur Pelkey/LutherMCCarthy, both Totch/Hackenschmidt wr. matches, Benny Leonard/Charley White.

County Meath,Irelan St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr. (1880's-1929); Sporting News column, "Back of Home Plate", Dec. 5, 1918 - 1929, Apr. 18; Started on St. Louis Globe-Democrat(1880's), Post-Dispatch(1896-?), The Republic, Globe-Democrat. Missouri Committee on Public Utility Information manager,1921-.

(Sheridan) While on Committee, he blew the whistle on some corrupt practices, and then tendered his resignation. Shortly thereafter he suffered nervous disorders, and received profess. care in sanitarium. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetey., St. Louis, MO(Sheridan, cont.) Sherry's column for Sporting News "Back of Home Plate", 1917-29, gained for him national respect as a baseball writer. He also wrote with authority on boxing, golf, and most sports. Personally, I suspect that his physical problems, (Sheridan) which started soon after he exposed government corruption,was a result of sabotage. I also suspect his so-called "suicide" may have been unsuspected homicide. He was found hanging in his room at Alexian Brothers Hospital, by a bathrobe cord.

Killorglin,Ireland Holyoke,MANYC NYC NY sp.ed; NY Evening Post(1897-03), NY Tribune('04-16), NY World sp.ed.('16-31), NY World Telegram for 6 months, NY Herald Tribune('31-38). Introduced all-star FB games to NY, started the Herald-Tribune FB school. d. complications pneumonia, pleurisySweden Chicago,IL Chicago sports writer; Born Sweden, came to US @ 1883, worked way through Univ. of Chicago as newspaper correspondent, graduated in 1896. 20 yrs. sp. ed. Chicago Record-Herald, During war, did govern. work, Washington Herald('18-23). d. Pleurisy

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( Axelson, cont.),wrote bio. of White Sox owner Charles Comiskey(Commy,1919),Chicago Daily Journal (1923-26). He was also a member of the Masons,University Club,White Paper Club,National Press Club,original member Baseball Writers Association('08).Germany Wash.D.C. Cinc.. Washington sp. wr.; Cincinnati Commercial Gazette sp.ed. (1890's), Pres. Amer. Ass. (Western League, Jan. 1, 1904 - Mar., 1905), Pres. Toledo BB club ('05-06), Washington Post, Washington Star (1911-17). d. 4 yrs. battle against softening of the brain.

Boston,MA Baltimore, New York, Boston sports writer; Baltimore sp. wr.(1890's), New York Press sp. ed.(@1911-1916), Pres. of Newark BB club(International League), Newark BB team (Federal League) grounds manager (1916-24), AL eastern representative (NYC).(Price,continued) Secretary of Boston Red Sox(Jan., 1924 - 1929,Jan.29,death). Close friend of Ban Johnson. d. suicide, cut his throat with a razor at Fenway Park, when no one was there due to illness, note in pocket to wife.

Kentucky Louisville, KY Louisville, KY sp.ed.; Louisville Courier-Journal sp.ed. for 22 yrs. Known as a turf writer.

St. Louis Globe-Democrat sports columnist; d. heat strokePA Los Angeles,CA Los Angeles sp.wr. & sp. ed.: Los Angeles sp. ed.; Had retired several years earlier.Boston,MA Lincolnville,MO Boston sports writer,editor; Boston News cub reporter (?-1894), Boston Journal reporter (1894-00), Boston Herald copy desk head (1902-07), Boston Journal sp.ed. (1907-12), Boston Braves secretery (1912-15), Boston Globe news ed. (1925-45).Boston,MA Milton,MA Boston sports writer; Boston Journal(1890-?), Boston Record, Boston Braves Secretary('09-11), Boston Post, Pittsburgh Pirates secretary('16-17), Boston American, Boston GlobeBrooklyn, NY NYC Brooklyn spwr. & sp. ed. ; Brooklyn Eagle (1885-1930),sp.ed. (1896-30). Official scorer of Brookly home games for 30 yrs. d. Jewish Hosp. of cancer. Had been ill several months and hoarse in throat.New Orleans,LA Oak Park,IL Chi. sp wr.;Dubuque,IA reporter(1884-?),Chicago Mail(1894-1895),Chicago Times-Herald(1895-?),Chicago Journal((1899-'04),Detroit Tribune,Cleveland News('05-12),Louisville Herald, Chicago Evening Post,Chicago Tribune(March 3,1918-44,death).Man.ed.(1899-18).

Indianapolis,IN Danville,IL Dannelle,ILAugusta,Ga NYC NY sp. wr; Family moved NYC(1882); New York Sun reporter,Subsequently worked as reporter, feature writer, columnist, city ed.(NY Morning Telegraph, New York World, NY Press, New York Times copy reader('08-13). Novelist, short stories, serials, song-writerPhiladelphia,PA Philadelphia,PA Phil. spwr; Press Bureau of Philadelphia from at least 1911-14.

North Brookfield,MA St. Louis,MO St. Louis sp.wr.; Schenectady,NY(1890's), Joplin,MO 2 papers ed. (News-Herald & Globe), Columbus(OH) Sun man. ed.('08-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(1910), St. Louis Republic( '10-16), Daily Oklahoma('16-19,My.), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(My.6,1919-41,death)Cape May,NJ Cape May,NJ Phil. Times(?-02), Phil. Phillies secretary & Treasurer (Dec. 1, 1904 - Jan. 25, 1909), NL secretary to President John H. Tener (Dec. 12, 1913 -16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('11-16, at least0), Lafayette College graduate manager of athletics ('21-46, retired).Providence,RI San Francisco,CA Detroit sp. wr; Detroit Free Press sports editor(1901-10),Washington Post sports editor('10-13),Detroit News-Tribune sp. ed.(1913-21) moved California('21),worked for various newspapers there. 1st President of Baseball Writers Ass. of America(1908-1919).San Antonio,TX San Antonio,TX San Antonio,TX spwr.; St. Mary College, Rpt, San Antonio Express, 1892: rpt and news ed, San antonio Light, 1894-06: Gazette, 1906-08; ed, Laredo Record, 1915; San Antonio corr bureau, Austin (Tex) Amer, 1916; ed, Eagle Pass Guide, 1918-21. W S:

(Mosebach, continued) recruiting service: Finance Dept. Q M D, USA. MEM: Tex Edl Assn. San Antonio Express sp. ed. And later a feature writer. San Antonio, Tex. Sp. Ed., San Antonio (Tex) Express, Feb, 1924-41).Oberlin, OH Avondale,OH Cincinnati sports writer; In 1905, Jack replaced Charles Webb Murphy on the Cincinnati Enquirer as sports writer and served there for more than 30 yrs.Dunkirk,NY Wilmette,IL Cleveland sports writer, AL service bureau; Cleveland recorder sp.ed.(1898-1901,Apr.), Cleveland Plain Dealer sp.ed.(July 29,'01-'28,Feb.1), Amer. League service bureau, Chicago(Feb.1,'28-42,Feb.1).

Jamaica Plain,MA Boston spwr.; Boston Brotherhood (Pl. L) catcher, Boston Nationals, St. Louis Browns; Sp.-Amer. War 9th Reg., WWI, Boston American BB writer, sp.ed.('04), Boston Journal. d. fell fr. 3rd floor window at his lodging house, crippled w/ arthritis.

Forrest Hills, Queens,NY Detroit spwr.; Detroit Journal (1903-12); Milwaukee Sentinal (1913-16), Detroit auto trade papers. Original founding member of BWAA. d. heart disease in a private hosp. after a month's illness. Wash.DC government printing office employee d. Hit by car running liquor, driven by 2 blacks, accident

Independence,IA Phil.,PA Phil. spwr; Arriv. Philly in 1879, grad. Central H;. Phil. Times rep.(1891-1909), Phil. Press, Munsey's Evening Times('09-13), Phil. Evening Telegraph BB ed. ('13-17). Sporting News correspond.('09-17). d. typhoid-pneumonia, ill only a week.New Haven,OH Terrace Park,OH Cinc. spwr; Started on Cincinnati Enquirer(1897-08), as police reporter, then assessment clerk on city pay roll. Cincinnati Times-Star feature writer('12-25), succeeded Bill Phelon as BB writer in Aug.,'25 until retirement('53,Sept.) Retired from BB writing 2 yrs. before that. d. Heart attackChicago,IL Cincinnatti,OH Chi. NY,Cincinnati sports writer/editor; Chi. Daily News (1888-1905, Oct.), Chi. Daily Journal (Oct.'05-08), Chi. Tribune (1908-10), NY Morning Telegraph (1910), Cincinnati Times-Star sp.ed. (spring,'10-25) .Easily most colorful eccentric sportswriter ever lived. Rube Waddell of BWAA.

A great book should be written about him. As a writer, Bill was one of the best, and one of the most prolific. He was an associate editor of Baseball Magazine (March, 1913 - November, 1924). He had replaced Jake Morse (Boston sp.wr.), who himself had encyclopedic BB knowledgeof all things baseball. Also was Cincinnati correspondent for theSporting News. From 1889-1915, had scored over 3,500 ballgames. Made all road trips with Reds. Total home team rooter. Died after 3 days of Bright's disease. As a complete authority ofbaseball, he lived the game. Had been famous amateur ballplayer & boxer, was an actor, wrote for the stage, studied Indian lore, wrote baseball poetry, was twice married with a son; Contributed to Weekly BB Guide,Chicago BB News, Herald Examiner, NY World,

Newport,KY Newport,KY Cinc. spwr; After Charles was dismissed by Cinc. owner Taft in March, 1910, he worked as press agent for the Cinc. Chamber of Commerce, Cinc. BB club, theaters and other institutions, off & on until his death. Never wrote BB again. Chicago,IL Phil.,PA Phil.,NY,Cle sports writer; Phil record(1887-91), Sporting News(1888-91), bank clerk(1891-1899),Aderondacks, organizer Phil.Symphony Orchestra('03-05),NY Press BB ed.('07-11), Eastern League,secretary('11-?),Wash. & Lee University Pres. rep.

(Lanigan,continued), farmed on the Hudson River, Cleveland Leader BB ed. ('16-?), Syracuse Stars Press rep('20-?), International League information director,NYC('35-42), Baseball's Hall of Fame historian at Cooperstown('46-59). (Lanigan,continued), Boston American('15-19), NY Daily News('19-22), Hearst Service night ed. & make-up ed., Syracuse American in charge of copy desk, NY American assistant night ed.(?-28.at least).

Lisbon,Illinois Ottawa,IL Chicago sp.wr.; Graduated University of Illinois (1895), began with Chicago Tribune, Chicago Journal, Chicago Evening American.PA Phil.,PA Phil. sportswriter; Phil evening Item(police reporter(1895-1900),Phil. Times sp.ed.(('00-02),Phil. Public Ledger sp.wr.('02-19),BR Keith's Theater('14-20,at least), Phil. Booking Agency,PR office('33-43),Phil. corn Exchange National Bank&Trust co.('43-?)Indiana,PA Detroit spwr.; cub reporter Ypsilanti (MI), Detroit Journal theatrical editor(12 yrs.), Cleveland Press state ed., NY Herald financial ed., Detroit Free Press city ed., Detroit TimesRichmond,VA Flushing, Queens, NY 113 NYC spwr.; Minneapolis Tribune, NY Evening Telegram, NY Herald, NY Evening Mail, NY Morning Telegraph, NY Globe('12) & others. Stricken with paralysis in May, & confined to home ever since. Liebler & Co. press reporter. d. strokeEngland Phil.,PA Philadelphia sp. wr.; managed some boxers, Philadelphia Bulletin sp. ed.(1889-1914), worked at some hotels d. at Phil. nursing homeBoston,MA Yonkers,NY Bost. NY spwr.; Boston Transscript sp.ed., NY Evening Post sp. ed., NY Times spwr. ('28-48)

Hillsboro,OH New Port Richey,FL 161-018276 Chi. & NY spwr; Cincinnati Enquirer spwr(1889-93), Chicago Record(1896-97), Chicago Tribune spwr(1897-1907), Chicago Herald spwr(1907-12), Chicago Herald and Examiner(1913-19), New York Mail spwr(1919-21), Liberty Weekly ass. ed.(Magazine)(1923-28),(Fullerton, continued), Philadelphia Inquirer, Columbus Dispatch(OH) columnist, Jack Wheeler's Bell Syndicate. Instrumental in uncovering the "Black Sox Scandal". Help found the Baseball Writer's Ass. in 1908-09. (Fullerton, continued) Hugh conducted The Wake of the News from June 9, 1912 - June, 1913. After death of Hugh Keough, its originator Hugh wrote it until Ring Lardner took it over. It's believed to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US.

Point Fortune,Que., NYC NYBrooklyn,NY Saunders Point,Niantic,CT New York sports writer; Syracuse Standard(1892-?),New York Sun('00-13), New York Associated Press('13-23), US LawnTennis Ass. Exec. Sec.('23-42), World Almanac, Spalding Baseball Guide('14-17),

Phil.,PA Phil., St. Louis sp. cartoonist, spwr; Stud. Pitts. Art Sch., Penn. Acad. Fine Arts, Art Students League in NY. NY American art dept. (1898-?), Phil. North Amer. art dept., Managed arts dept. of Pittsburgh Press & Pittsburgh Dispatch,(Wolfe, continued) Phil. Inquirer sp. cartoonist/feature wr.(1907-22). Began as sports cartoonist, evolved into a cartoonist/ sports writer. His sports cartoons appeared on the covers of The Sp. News many years. Retired newspaper work '29. Free-lanced(Wolfe, continued) Mr. Wolfe free-lanced after 1929, his work appearing in Nation's business, Liberty, sporting News, Saturday Evening Post, among many others. For a time, he wrote column for Phil. Daily News. He always used his pen name, Jim Nasium.

Illinois St. Louis,MO St. Louis sp. wr. & sp. ed.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1900-02). St. Louis Globe-Democrat (1902-06), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1906-46), He retired as sp. ed. in '46, but continued his column, "Wray's Column", which he had started in '08, until August, '55

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MO St. Louis,MO St. Louis sp. ed.; St. Louis Republic's sp. ed. (1894- 19), Texas oil companies' PR ('19-24), St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.wr.('24-40, retirement), specialized horse racing / baseball. d. heart disease. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOBrooklyn,NY Merrick,NY 050-05-8989 Brooklyn spwr. & sp. ed.; Started as errand boy on the Brooklyn Times in 1889. He evolved throught copy boy in ed. dept. to religious ed., general reporter, baseball writer (1909), and finally sp. ed. Brooklyn Times-Union (1898-38).Brazil,IN Evanston,IL Chicago spwr.; Chicago U.(1895-97), Chicago Times-Herald(1895-98), Chicago Record sp.ed.(1898-1901), Chicago Herald reporter(1901), Chicago Tribune('01-03), Chicago Tribune sp.ed.(1909-20). Woodruff inherited the sports column, In the Wake of the

(Woodruff) News, at Chicago Tribune, fr. Ring Lardner Nov.25, 1919.This renowned sports column had hosted such writers as Hugh Fullerton, Hugh Keough, Lardner('13-19). When Woodruff died, the column passed to Arch Ward('37-55), who held it to his death.Salt Lake City,UT Salt Lake Tribune(UT) sp.ed.,VP of Pioneer League,which he helped organize. Helped bring Salt Lake City into the Pacific Coast League('15). When team moved Hollywood('25),he went as ass. sec.Returned to Tribune('27). Worked on papers in Butte,Helena,MT.

St. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr./sp. ed.; Grad. St.Louis U.; Ass. sp.ed.St. Louis Post-Dispatch ('05-07); St. Louis Star sp.ed. ('07 to 25). Original founding member of BWAA. d. acute indigestion, after repeated attacks acute indigest.. Bur: Calvary Cem., St. Louis, MOKY Brooklyn,NY Kentucky, NYC sp. wr.; (KY) Journal,World ,Mirror; NY Morning World sp. ed. Moved NYC around 1906. NY Tribune sp. ed. (1917). d. found dead in bed in his room in Brooklyn,NY. Rhinecliff, NY Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn sp. ed.; Brooklyn Standard-Union sp. ed. (1900-26), official scorer of Brooklyn BB team, Lodge 22 of the Elks, member of Press club. d. At home, when cold turned into pneumonia within a weekBrooklyn,NY New Port Richey,FL 232-28-4422 St. Louis spwr; Phil. Public Ledger rep.,Sporting News(1895-96),St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.ed. & sp. wr.(1897),St. Louis Star(1898), St. Louis Star Chronicle(?-07), St. Louis Times('07-11),Sp. & Stage('12),World Sporting('14). PR manager(Hot Springs,AR),Boston,MA Brookline,MA Boston spwr.; Graduated Boston English HS, joined Boston Globe sp. staff as spwr., also specialized in FB. Founding member BWAA. - '08. d. Hahnemann Hosp. San Jose,CA Los Angeles,CA SF,LA,NY sp. wr.; Was one of best baseball storytellers of his age. He was called the greatest baseball writer by several of his peers. d. chronic nephritis at Philadelphia Hosp., Was on East Coast on business

Paducah,KT NYC NY spwr., humorist; Paducah Evening News reporter(1892), by age 19, he had been made managing ed; Louisville Evening Post(1898-), NY Evening Sun, NY & Evening & Sunday World(--), This job made Irvin the highest paid staff reporter in US. (Cobb, continued) Paducah Democrat managing ed. (1901), NY Evening News reporter(1904), NY & Evening & Sunday World feature writer(1904), Saturday Evening Post(1911), Wrote his autobiography, Exit Laughing, at end of his life. Sold well. But Cobb's career lasted only a brief decade or two. After the crash of 1929 he became increasingly conservative in politics and philosophy. As he became more conservative, his humor became increasingly forced and to compensate he posed more and more as

(Cobb, continued) the professional Southerner. Always doubtful of his own abilities as writer and thinker, he was mortally wounded by the criticism of such elite critics as H. L. Mencken who pushed him into a low-brow niche in American culture. Forcing (Cobb, continued) himself to write to his "low-brow audience" Cobb lost faith in himself and his value. By the end of the thirties, for whatever reason, America had moved beyond the contributions to society of Irvin Cobb.(Cobb,continued) Associate of celebrities of all kinds for two decades, he died in NYC virtually forgotten, having outlived the world he grew up in and which appreciated him. Ill and bitter he wrote in (Cobb, continued) his last days his autobiography, Exit Laughing, his best writing for years and a book which was well received by the critics and reading public.

Kentville, Ontario, Toronto,Ont.Canada Ottowa spwr.; Started on Ottowa Journal, Toronto Daily Star, Toronto Mail, Toronto Empire. d. suddenly at his home in Toronto.

Keene,NH Forrest Hills,NY NY sp.ed.; reporter for Publishers' Press, Scripps-McRae League, United Press; NY Associated Press('07-30) news editor of eastern US. He also covered most national events such as political conv.,World Series, boxing, horse races, etc. Retired('30).(Brandebury,cont.), Rabid baseball fan, AL fan, Yankee fan. Joined NYC office of A.P. in 1907 and grad. from star reporter, city ed, day manager of the NY bureau & eventually news ed. of eastern US, 'till retirement in '30. Huge collector of stamps.

Newark,NJ suburb Newark, NJ spwr.; Newark Star composing room (1893-?), Newark Evening Star sp.ed. ( 1901-05), Newark Ledger sp.ed. (1905-11), , Newark News sp.ed., (1911-19). Retired from newspaper work to take up advertising work. Boston,MA Pass-A-Grille Bay,FL Bost.Lake City, MN San Mateo, CA San Francisco spwr.; San Jose Mercury News (CA) editorial dept.; reporter/ sp. ed. Portland Evening Telegram (OR), San Francisco Morning Call; San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1906-25?), His column was entitles, "Sports Mirror". Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn sp. ed.; The Brooklyn Eagle composing room(1892-97), Worked for father in commercial work, Morning Journal, Brooklyn Citizen sp. ed. ('03-45), He began to write baseball around 1900. Phil.,PA Miami Beach,FL Phil. spwr.; Phil. North American ('05?-16), Buffalo, NY Pierce-Arrow Automobile Co. (Nov.26, 1918-Aug.17, 1919), Chandler car co. (Oct.16, 1921-Aug.26, 1927), Cleveland White Motor Truck co., (Aug.26, 1927-Sept.27, 1931), Studebaker Motor Co. Launched Rockne car, sales manager (Sept. 27, 1931-32, retired)Cleveland,OH Chicago,IL Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Kenyon College(1900); Cleveland Plain Dealer feature syndicate writer ('00-06), Cleveland Press sp.ed.('06-11), Chicago Newspaper Enterprise Ass.('11-?), ,Chicago Evening Post sp.ed.('17-29),

Mann, continued) Chicago Daily News sp.ed.('29-36). Underwent abdominal surgery 3 weeks before his death, which led to pneumonia. D. Augustana Hosp.NYC NYC NY spwr.; NY Tribune, enlisted WWII, NY World, NY Evening Sun (7 yrs.), NY Evening Journal (1925-?), NY American, NY Journal American, Also worked for papers in Wash,DC & Syracuse, NY, NY Daily News('50-59, June). Wrote BB, FB, Boxing, Rowing.MO Valley Park,MO St. Louis sports writer; St. Louis Globe-Democrat sports writer(1896-1921)(sp.ed.-'08-21), NL scorer in St. Louis, Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Trenton,NJ sportswriter; Bost. ('96-09),Phil. Evening Times ('09-39), Cleveland Leader(1914), Cleveland Plains Dealer, Phil. Press sp.ed. ('12-?), Phil. Inquirer sp.ed. ('21-27), Phil. Record sp.ed.('28-31), Camden Courier Post (NJ) reporter & columnist(?-'39). D. New Jersey State Hospital for 18 months before death. Health declined after death of wife in Dec., '38.

Dadeville,AL Lynbrook,L.I.,NY NY sp. ed.; Birmingham Age-Herald city ed. & sp.ed.(1899--05), NY Evening World sp. wr. & sp. ed.('06-31), Saturday Evening Post staff wr.('31-32). Also a playwright & soldier.PA 202-28-0938 Pittsburgh spwr.: Pittsburgh Gazette-Times, at least 1911-14. Retired by 1956Baltimore,MD Brooklyn,NY Baltimore, Washington, Brooklyn spwr.: Baltimore Sun (1899-03), Washington Times ('03-10, Brooklyn Daily Eagle (May 29, 1911-29). Left baseball to devote himself to crime & general law.

(Rice, continued) Grad. Baltimore City College (1897), U. of Maryland law sch. (1899), Admitted Maryland bar '99, Member of NY State Crime Commission (1926-31).Covington,KY Cincinnati,OH Cinc.St. Louis, MO Washington, DC St.Louis,Wash. sp.ed.: St. Louis public sch./private tutors. St. Louis Post-Dispatch ass. sp.ed. (1896-00), St. Louis Star, Fort Smith Times, Joplin Times, St. Louis Republic political writer (1906-?), Chicago Tribune (1912-14),

(Cochran, continued) St. Louis Republic's Washington's bureau, (1914- 1919, Dec.5), was in charge of PR for Gov. Cox in 1920. d. Garfiedl Hosp. 2 weeks after operation. Had been ill for yr. Was Roman Catholic.Phil.,PA Phil.PA Phil. spwr; Philadelphia Inquirer spwr(1898-1925) sp.ed.('25-58). In Phi. sports, he served as player, official, club owner & reporter. Close personal friend of Mack.

Cascade,Iowa Phoenix,AZ 361-01-7388 Chi.,St. Louis spwr.; Chicago Chronicle('03-05), Chicago Examiner('06), Chicago American('07),St. Louis Post-Dispatch('08-10), Chicago Tribune & NY Daily News sp.ed('11-26)3 yrs. in NY, Chicago Journal('27), Chicago Daily News('28-32), Pres. BWAA('29-30).(Crusinberry,continued), Later he was head of the Columbia Broadcasting System's news operations in Chicago. He specialized in baseball & golf. d. cerebral hemorrhage

Conn. Honolulu,HI Bost., Wash., Cle., Pitts., Phil., HI.; Boston Post (1910-?), Washington Times-Herald, Washington Post, Cleveland Leader, Pittsburgh Dispatch (1917). Then joined Honolulu Advertiser (1925-46)

Reading,PA Atlantic City,NJ 084 137-14-0362 Phil. spwr.: Grad. Temple U. (1898); Philadelphia Record(1911-13), Detroit Free Press (1901-02); Phil. Record ('02-?); Phil. Inquirer (motor boat regattas), Phil. Public Ledger ('17-22), In '27, Phil. Record, handicapping horses, under "Joe Finn". (Zeigler, continued) In 1922, moved Atlantic City, NJ, opened Margate dog kennels, bred racing greyhounds; In '25, opened pet show; Radio Station WPG 1st sports caster ( 1928, Atlantic City, NJ),

Roxbury,NY NYC NY sports writer; grad NYU('01); NY assistant sp. ed. NY Tribune, NY Sun, NY American, NY Journal-American. d. pneumoniaEngland Bronx,NY NY spwr.; NY Daily Mirror, editing & compiling the Sunday soccer columns. Also covered BB & hockey after arriving in US from his native England in 1912.

NY, Brooklyn sp.ed.; NY World copy desk, NY Evening World nighty sp. ed. Brooklyn Eagle night sp. ed. d. heart attack on way to workSan Francisco, CA Brunswick,GA SF & NY spwr.: Stanford U.; Spanish-Amer. War (1898), San Francisco Call (1900) boxing beat, SF Chronicle, SF Examiner reporter, SF Bulletin city ed./man. ed.; San Francisco Evening Post city ed., managing ed.: Arrived NYC 1914; NY Evening Journal boxing writer (1914), Began covering ML BB in '15 for NY Trib.

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(McGeehan, continued) NY Tribune spwr. then sp. ed.; WWI (1917), no overseas, trained infantrymen; NY Tribune man. ed. (1921), NY Herald sp.ed. with daily column (1922). In 1924, Herald merged with Tribune. NY Herald Tribune sp.ed. (1924-33). (McGeehan, continued) McGeehan is credited with originating the "Aw, Nuts" style of sports journalism. They didn't write to create heroes, blow athletes out of proportion into myths, legens, or cultural legends. They wrote to be critical but fair analysts. Fought to find the men under the hype.

McKeeskport,PA Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Leader sp.ed.(1898-?), Pittsburgh Dispatch sp.ed., Pittsburgh Post sp.ed, Pittsburgh Sun sp.ed.('08-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph columnist('27-37), Pittsburgh Pirates publicity agent(Jan.'37-55).Chicago,IL Newton,CT NY sports writer; grad Trinity College(Hartford,CT, '03), NY Evening Sun, NY Morning Sun, NY World, NY Herald Tribune, late 20's,sports columns North American Newspaper Alliance; World War I(115th Field Artillery),

Sandusky,OH Cleveland,OH 4412 285-07-2706 Cleveland sp.ed.; Moved from Youngston,OH to Cleveland in '07. Cleveland News sp. ed. ('07-60). Liked to bet the horses, play golf. His son became known sports writer.St. Louis,MO Dallas,TX 75225 477-03-3601 Worked w/ Louis McHenry Howe,confidante of Pres. Roosevelt,radio interviews, on government issues. In 1934, he joined the staff of Will H. Hays as Washington representative. Hays was the President Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America.Aurora, Indiana Pasadena, CA Chicago sp.wr.; Edu: Trinity College, Hartford, CT & U. of Minnesota; Chicago Tribune (1904-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Chronicle, Chicago Record-Herald at least Sept, 1908-12,14; Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Evening Post, column On the Sport Trail With Malcolm MacLean.

(MacLean, continued) He traveled with the Cubs & Sox for yrs. Represented Chicago for 5 yrs. In BWAA. Ass. Sunday ed. of Chicago Tribune. Ill health promted him to leave his home in Western Springs, for Cal. last spring. At time of death, was with Los Angeles Evening Express staff. D. at home, Pasadena, CACleveland,OH Cle.Murfreesboro,TN NYC Atlanta, NY spwr.; edu: Wallace Univ. Sch. Nashville,TN; Vanderbilt U. ed. The American Golfer; Nashville Daily News; Atlanta Journal sp.ed (1902-05); Cleveland News (1905-07); Nashville Tennessean spwr.(1907-10); NY Evening Mail sp. columnist (1910-13)

NY Tribune spwr. & syndicated columnist (1913-24), NY Herald Tribune (1924-54). Wrote many books, and contributed to numerous magazines. The quinessential Southern Gentleman, Granny Rice was without a shadow of a doubt the most well-known & loved spwr. of his & perhaps all times. His autobiography was, "The Tumult & the Shouting: My Life in Sport", 1954. Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, NY

Hamilton,OH Mead,PA Philadelphia sports writer; Cincinnati Times-Star assistant to Charles Zuber(1895-1905), Phil. North American sports writer 1905-25, Phil. Inquirer baseball editor & sports editor until his stroke September 17, 1940. Helped break the '19 scandal.Spartansburg,PA Holgate,OH 43527 spwr; Worked for 17 newspapers in his career, starting in 1898. Warren(PA) Democrat, Times, Mirror, 1899-1902; McKeesport Herald, 1902; Pittsburgh Post, News, 1902; Youngstown Vindicator, 1902-06; Clev Plain dealer, 1907-09; Penton Pub Co,1909;

(Neily) Detroit Times, 1910; St. Louis Times sp.ed, 1910-13; St. Louis Feds buss. man. (FL,'14), Denver Times, Rocky Mts News, 1914-15; Chicago Herald, 1916.Last paper was Chicago American('16-33), early member of BBWAA,

(Neily, continued), buried on Aug.29,1948 in Holgate,OH; Father: Harry Neily Mother: Jennie Kahler; Eaton Rapids,MI Detroit,MI Chi.,Det. sports writer; Detroit Tribune('02-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Record-Herald(Sept.,'08-?), Detroit News, Detroit Athletic Club,secretary('12-53,death). Was active in founding the Boy Scouts of America. Ed./owner Det.Athletic Club News.St. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr; St. Louis U., Worked in bank 4 yrs. St. Louis Republic sp. ed.('01-08), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('08-14), St. Louis FL team traveling secretary(spr. '14-15, Dec)St. Louis Browns traveling secretery (Dec.'15 - 1936, Nov.14)

(Johnson, continued) Peoria Baseball team, President(Feb.16,'37-43), St. L. Globe-Democrat-horse rac., wrest.('43-51). d. heart attackChicago,IL NYC NY sp. wr.; Arrived NYC('03), His column "The Conning Tower" appeared in many papers, his radio program "Information Please"('38-48) was on TV for 13 weeks in '52. Chicago Journal('03-04), NY Evening Mail('04-14), NY Tribune('14-22), NY World('22-31).

(Adams,continued), New York Herald-Tribune('31-37,March), NY Post('38-41). A quote of his service in World War I, "I didn't fight & I didn't shoot, but, General, how I did salute." He also wrote the "Tinkers to Evers to Chance" baseball ditty.DeLand,FL NY spwr.; NY Herald (1906-25), NY Herald-Tribune (1925-51)

Lancaster,IL St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Globe-Democrat 1911-14, at least

Philadelphia,PA Miami, FL33417 181-09-1319 Philadelphia spwr.; Phil. Inquirer spwr., Phil. Bulletin 1906-1946, spwr. 1906-09, ass. city ed. 1909-23, city ed. 1923-38, sports ed. 1938-46. d. Pneumonia in North Shore Hospital.Blairsville,PA Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh sports writer; Davis replaced William Locke 1903 as sports ed. of Pittsburgh Press & also as Sporting News' Pitts. correspondent on his 21st birthday. Was also 33rd degree Mason,taught Bible class,original member Baseball Writers Ass.('09).

Jacksonville,FL Chi.,Jacksonville,FLNewark, NJ Nutley, NJ NJ / NY spwr.' Newark Daily Advertiser (1904-?), several more Newark newspapers until 1921, NY Sun sp. Wr. & copy ed. (1921-50), Newark Star-Ledger copy ed. of sports depart. (1950-52). He had a column in the Sunday sports section was "Down Memory Lane". d. at home after a long illness.Chicago,IL Atlanta,GA Atlanta sports writer; Atlanta Georgian(Jan.'09-10), Kansas City Star('10-13), Atlanta Georgian('13-20), Atlanta Journal('20-50). Specialized in golf coverage in general & Bobby Jones in particular. Also covered careers of Alexa Stirling & Perry Adair.New Britain,CT NYC NY sp.wr.; Attended Harvard College ('05), Waterbury American (fall,'05-09, NY Times('09-20,24-25), NY Evening Post sp. ed.('20-24), NY Herald-Tribune sp. wr. ('26-41 non-baseball,42-45, NY Giants). Member of BB H of F committee(Jun.18,'45-Apr.3,'46,death)

(Cross, continued) Expert in BB, FB, boxing, curing, figure-skating, polo, rowing, and most all else, except golf & tennis. Member FB writers ass. Mich. Riverside,Ont.,Can. Detroit sp. ed. Detroit Free Press sp. ed.Started at least by 1911, perhaps earlier. Was with the Free Press, from at least, 1911-30; left newspaper work in '31, and joined an ad agency, last year worked for Detroit brokerage firm.NYC Cincinnatti,OH Cle.,Cin,St. Louis spwr.: edu; Akron HS, OH; Buchtel Col, Akron, OH; Univ Sch. ,Cleveland, OH.; Akron Press('00-07), Cinc. Post sp.ed.('07-12), Cleveland Press ed.('12-15), Cinc. Post sp.ed.('15-21)

(Rostock, continued) Cleveland Newspaper Enterprises Ass.('21-24), St. Louis Times gen. man. , Cinc. Post Buss. manager ('25-33, retired).

Ohio Los Angeles,CA 90 066-10-8178 NY sp. wr.; NY World Boxing writer & biographer/ghost wr. for Jack Dempsey; Had a long-running column in NY World(Pardon My Glove). Was Director of Boxing Writers Ass. & it's Pres.('58). Dempsey's Press agent. Newspaper Enterprise Ass.NYC Beverly Hills,CA 083-10-6415 Chicago & NY spwr.: edu; Lewis Inst, chicago, IL Editor, writer, Hearst Syndicates, Chicago American rep., editor, 1903-13, dramatic critic, 1914-16; Chicago Herald feature writer, Chicago Tribune, (1920-?), Newspaper Feature Service;

(Lait, continued) NY American managing ed.; NY Mirror feature ed. 1924-25, Variety assoc ed. 1918-?)Conducted the Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June, 1919, after Ring Lardner left for NYC until Harvey Woodruff took it over in Nov., 1919. Oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Editor-in-Chief NY Daily Mirror, 1936-52.

Albany,NY St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr; Newark Star(NJ) spwr.('09-19), St. Louis Star BB ed., sp.ed.('19-28), St. Louis Post-Dispatch baseball writer('29-43), football expert. d. heart attack at home. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MONashville,IL Chicago,IL Chicago sp.wr. & ed.; Chicago Herald sp. ed,, Chicago Evening Post sp. ed.,Rocky Mountain News(Denver)managing ed.,Chicago Examiner ass. managing ed., Chicago Daily News sp. columnist.Chicago,IL Chicago,IL Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago American( July 3, 1900-39), Started as copy boy, made sp.ed. in '23-39. His column: Geiger Says. d. at home of cerebral hemorrhage after 3 wk. illness.

Springfield,PA Phil. sportswriter; Phil. newspapers sportswriter(early 1910's), Phil. Evening Times('11),Phil. Bulletin('12-13); dog show judge,boxing, President of Phil. Arrows hockey team, Phil. Eagles, founded Penn Athletic Club, horse racingNYC NYC NY spwr.; Grad. Wesleyan U. (1913), WW1, NY Morning Telegraph (1915-18), Went to Hollywood in 1924 to head comedy motion picture studio. His column was "On the Side". Worked for King Features Syndicate, d. brain tumor

(Durling, continued) Began his column in 1931, worked for LA Express, LA Daily News, LA Times, he joined King Features in 1939 as columnist. He worked for NY Evening Globe, and NY Herald.

Champaign County,I NYC St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Republic printer's devil, police reporter, baseball writer (1901-?), St. Louis Browns traveling sec. May, 1903-fall, 1904), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Fall, 1904-Spring, '05), New York Globe, Commercial Advertiser (1905-20), NY Journal writer (1920-45), which evolved into the Journal-American. (Mercer, continued) Covered NY Yankees from 1920-23, and then moved to boxing beat. Sid returned to covering the Yankees in 1931 and stayed with them until his death. D. Stricken with acute stomache problem, Sept., 1942, in Cleveland. Recovered, but

Raleigh,NC Grosse Pointe,MI 4 375-10-4641 Detroit sp. wr.;Providence Journal(RI)('03-06),Detroit Free Press(sp.wr.'06-10,sp. ed.'10-17),Detroit News('17-19),Ended his active coverage of baseball in 1917,when he joined Detroit News & went to France as war correspondent.Arrived home to advertising. Edited Detroit Athletic club magazine.Milwaukee,WI Bakersfield,CA 088-07-7021 Chi.12-25,NY27-30Ohio Lakewood,OH 297-30-4462 Cle.Winsted,CT NYC NYC sports writer(10-33); New York Herald Tribune, New York American

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Philadelphia, PA Philadelphia Bulletin sp. ed. and drama critic; known in sports, theatrical and newspaper circles for more than 50 yrs. Belleville,IL NYC St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch sp. ed. (1903-?), NY Evening Journal editorial staff, 12 yrs. During WWI, he was member of the dept. of news censorship on committee of public Info. Cosmopolitan Motion Picture corp. production manager for 6 yrs. Wrote crime book, "From Cain to Capone". Chicago,IL Norristown,PA Chicago, Phil. sp.ed.; Chicago American('06-12), Phil.('12-16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('16-22). FB official. d. Phil. hospital from injuries in car crash on June 25. Recognition as guard on Chicago U. FB team, then Swarthmore C. FB team '04 & 05.Orange, NJ NYC Brooklyn spwr.; Wall St. broker's clerk. Reviewed books for NY World('20), Brook. Eagle spwr.('20-35,44-54),covered Dodgers, NY Evening Post (trav. w/Yankees, '35-44), NY Daily Mirror (?-'44), Sp. N. correspondent.

NY NYC 087-18-0360 Brooklyn spwr; Advertising in 1917. Had been maritime PR man. Had been PR man for Rudder Club, a social club for maritime industry. Had been with Catholic Seamen's Institute of Brooklyn. Bellefontaine, OH Chicago, IL Chicago spwr;Columbus Citizen(Ohio) reporter('06),Chicago Record-Herald('06-15),Clev. Newsp. Enterpr. Ass. sp.ed.('16,Nov.),Chicago Record-Herald(Nov.'16-19), Chicago Evening American('19-32), ed. BB Who's Who('33-40's),Chicago American(early '40's-49)Manhattan,KS NYC NYC sp. wr. & author; Arrived NYC('11), served 1912-16 as Hearst foreign correspondent in Mexico & Europe. Made his name as author of novels with colorful Broadway characters. Many of his novels were used for movies,such as Guys & Dolls('55),

(Runyon,continued),Double Indemnity('44),Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown('55),Little Miss Marker,with Shirley Temple('34),Lemon-Drop Kid('51),Lady For A Day('33),A Slight Case of Murder('38), d. developed throat cancer('38), lost speech('44), after operation.Hazleton, PA Northfield,NJ Phil. spwr.: Pittsburgh Gazette-Times (1900-08); Phil. Press baseball writer (1907- ?); Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. Sunday sports Magazine; American Shooters Magazine ed. ; American Trap Shooting Ass. GM; Phil. Evening Public Ledger sp. columnist ('22-32)

(McLinn) Phil. Record chief sp. columnist ('32-35); Sports Announcer on WIP station ('35-?). Conducted dugout interviews with Mack & Ahtletics. His Dad, Rev. Milton E. McLinn, moved family to Louden County, VA. Was noted athlete in HS & college.Sharon,PA Warren,PA Pitts. sp.wr.; Sharon Telegraph sp.wr.;Mov. Pittsburgh('14),began covering Pirates in '15. Pitts. Gazette-Times('14-27),Pitts. Sun-Telegraph('27-58,Jan.6).Served WW1 in France as Pitts. Gazette-Times correspond. Sp.News correspond. His column:Chillysauce

Sandwich,Ont.,Can. Detroit,MI Detroit sports writer, newspaper executive; Detroit News police reporter('01),Detroit New sp.ed.('03-10),Detroit News city ed.('10-14),Detroit News managing ed.('14-28),Detroit News London bureau chief('28-30),Detroit Free Press ed. director('30-53,death)(Bingay,continued), Detroit Free Press editorial director('30-53,death), In '34,Bingay created column in the Free Press with wild character named Iffy, which became wildly popular.Bingay disclosed his authorship('39).His cartoonist,Fred S. Nixon.

Niles,MI East Hampton,NY Chicago,NY,Boston sports writer; Chicago Inter Ocean('07-10), Chicago Examiner('10),Chicago Tribune('10), Sporting News man. ed.('10),Boston American,sp.ed.(Feb.'11-'11,Oct), Chicago American,copy reader,Chicago Examiner,sp.writer; Equally good at BB & FB

(Lardner, continued), Chicago Tribune(June,'12-19), Conducted The Wake of the News for the Chicago Tribune from June, 1913 to June, 1919, when he left for NYC. Oldest, continuous sp. column in US. NY Bell Syndicate of John N. Wheeler('19-27) (Lardner, continued) When he went to work for the Bell Syndicate of John Wheeler, he wrote a weekly column, moved his family from Chicago to NYC, traveled the US covering major sporting events, continued his fiction for magazines. In 1932, he published (Lardner, cont.) a series of autobiographical articles for Saturday Evening Post. Ring was diagnosed with TB. He died following a heart attack. He became extremely disillusioned with baseball after 1920, due to the live ball style of Babe Ruth HRs.

Springfield,OH Detroit,MI Detroit News sports editor his whole career (1907-58). Was Ty Cobb's biggest booster in print.Millbury, MA NYC Boston, Atlanta, NY spwr.; Worchester Gazette, Boston American(1904-07), NY Evening Journal(1907-12), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.(1912-14), NY American sp.ed.(1914-25), NY Journal(1925-37), spent all his last 8 yrs. as VP of 20th Century Sporting Club. MASS. Bost.

NYC NY sp.wr.; Graduated Amherst college('07), NY Sun sp. wr., NY Herald, Theatrical press agent & publicist.

St. Paul, MN St. Paul & Sask. spwr.; Regins. Sask., Telegram sp.ed.; St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) Sp.ed. Associated with the St. Paul Pioneer Press for 11 yrs.; considered an expert on baseball & hockey. d. ill for several monthsManchester,NH Boston,MA Bost.,NY; NY Morning Telegram sp.ed., boxing expert (1923) (20 yrs), NY Sun, NY World(boxing ed.),Boston American sp.ed. & columnist, Boston Globe news ed., NY Press sp. writer, NY Madison Square Garden Corp. PR director; New England War Production board salvage Div. PR directorNY Los Angeles,CA Brook., NYnr. Moorehead,MN Hyannis,Cape Cod, 061-09-2431 Editor-in-Chief Baseball Magazine(Boston,'10-12), ('12-38, NYC). Wrote probably close to 1,000 excellent detailed articles on baseball's technical side as well as interviews w/stars at home in winter. H of Fame must. After retiring in 1937 from the

(Lane) editor's chair, he returned to Cape Cod for his long life. Headed Piedmont College's Hist. Dept.('41-43) at Demorest, GA. Established journalism program there. He traveled extensively with wife Emma, whom he married in June, 1914. Together they(Lane) made many overseas voyages,circling globe 6 times. Wrote several books on geography & nature for adults & youths, '40's-50's. Publ. his poems in '58(On Old Cape Cod). Lived their final yrs. in Cape Cod nursing home,she died 10 months after him.

Chicago,IL 60657 335-09-2737 CubsPA Rockville Center,NY 084-09-5112 NY spwr.; New York (Evening) Sun copy boy,reporter,sp.wr,ass. sp. ed.('03-23), NY Evening Post('23-25), NY Graphic sp. ed.('25-26), New York Herald Tribune('26-50),

Castletown,Ireland Chicago, IL Chicago spwr.; Family moved from Ireland to Philadelphia when he was 5. Attended parochial school, De La Salle Academy; telegraph operator, Chicago Tribune (1911-20), chief of Los Angeles Times office in Chicago, IL (1920-46).d. Heart attack, while attending press meeting in Waldorf-Astoria, NYC.

Yonkers,NY Ridgefield,CT 089-10-5974 NY;NY Herald('07-?),at death, he was Chairman of the Board for North American Newspaper Alliances

Laurel,MD Silver Spring,MD 578-09-8667 Wash.Alta,IA Middletown,CT 062 068-05-0706 NY spwr.; NY Daily News (1922-29), NY Times (1929-59). At 11 he became a reporter and a printer's devil with an Iowa weekly. Later, moved to Walnut Grove Banner (Illinois) for $15. a month, & later became a railroad telegrapher & wire reporter for AP.Cleveland,OH Fairfield,CT NY sports writer;Cleveland Press('07-08), Cleveland News('08-09),Clev.Press('09-11), NY Nat. News Ass.('11-32),King Features sp.ed.,International News,Universal Service,California('32-35), Universal('35-?),NY Press,ed.,Press Agent Kentucky Derby('38-45).

(Menke cont.) Wrote Encyclopedia of Sports(1st ed, '34), his last ed. was publ. Nov.,'53. He worked w/ Col.Matt J. Winn of Kentucky Derby fame on his autobio.(Down the Stretch),worked w/ Ty Cobb,Gene Tunney,James J. Corbett & others on their autobio's.

Roslyn,PA Phil. sportswriter; son of famed Phil. sportswriter & editor-in-chief of AL Reich Guide('02-26) Francis C. Richter; Phil. North American, Phil. Press sp.ed., Phil. Chamber of Commerce PR director)'22-47), Dept. store Lit Brothers PR director('47-57).New Jersey Philadelphia,PA Philadelphia sports writer; Phil. Evening Times('09-?), Phil. Public Ledger(?-'19), Phil. Inquirer(Jan.'19-45).south Boston,MA Boston, MA Boston, Sporting News sp. wr.; Grad. Boston College in 1907, Boston American sp. ed. around '17-28, sports feature writer, d. St. Luke's Hospital after several months of illness from heart disease

Detroit, MI NYC 090-32-9176 Detroit spwr; Detroit Journal reporter & sp. ed. (1907-19), Dearborn News, Own PR & advertising firm in Detroit. Arrived in NYC in '34, J. R. Thompson ad agencyl, free-lance writer, WWII - Army intelligence colonel, prolific author. Louisville,KY Louisville,KY sp. ed; Louisville Times sp. ed.

Worchester,MA Boston,MA Boston sports writer; Boston Traveler(Apr.'13), Boston Herald(Apr.'13-49,May 8)(sp.ed. 19 17,Sept.)

NYC Atlantic Beach,L.I., 058-10-1217 spwr, referee, served as founder, editor, & publisher of The Ring('22); Grad. CCNY('08), Taught in NYC public schools, and became reporter NY Press('12-?), NY Sun, NY Telegram(?-29), Wrote over 50 books. In '42, ed. & pub. Ring Record Bk. & Boxing Ency. (Fleischer, continued) His Ring became boxing's most respected and leading publication and he became it's leading historian. Wrote bio of Dempsey and 12 other titlists. His 1929 Training for Boxers sold over 1m copies.

Brentwood,PA Pitts.Boston,MA Boston,MA Bost. spwr; Grad. Dartmouth College; Began with Boston Herald('10), WWI, Boston Record('20-61). Founded the Hearst National Junior Golf classic and was chairman of event for many years.Kalamazoo,MI Willims Bay,WI Chicago sp. wr; Kalamazoo Gazette('06), South Bend Tribune(IN), Chicago Inter-Ocean('09), Chicago Examiner, Chicago Associated Press('11-'16, Midwest sp.ed. '16-52,Sept.) Baseball was his favorite, but also loved track & boxing. d. heart attack

Quincy,MA 02170 017-14-4712 Boston sp. wr.; Boston Herald, Boston Traveler sp.ed.(1917-26), Boston Braves Secretary('26-

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Baltimore, MD Baltimore,MD Baltimore sp. wr.; Baltimore News-Post sp. ed., Baltimore Sunday American sp. ed.Philadelphia,PA Los Angeles, CA 086-63-4574 NY spwr; NY Evening Telegraph (1912), NY Evening Mail, at least 1911 & 1914; Original founding member of BWAA; Phil.,PA Houston,TX77055 491-18-0255 NYC Sports writer; Phil. News bureau(magazine & newspaper('10), New York Press, baseball ed.('11-16), NY Morning Sun('16-21), NY Telegram, baseball ed.('21-27), NY Evening Post(Mar.'27-34), moved to St. Petersberg,FL('34)

(Lieb,continued), Sporting News correspondent('35-58) & columnist('43-47), St. Petersburg Times(Florida)('65-77). Feb.,'80-Jun.5,1980 nursing home Houston,TX. World Series scorer('22-24), covered World Series('11-58). Sporting News historian for yrs.

(Lieb,continued), edu; Phila Central Manual Training HS, Pa. assoc ed, weekly Baseball Guide; writer, Christy Walsh Syndicate; past assoc ed, baseball Magazine, Sport-life. chief official scorer, World's Series, 1922-23-24; Texas Los Angeles Los Angeles spwr.; Sports writer, publicist; Pacific Coast League baseball for local newspapers (1909-31), Evening Express, then Herald & Express, credited with discovering Heine Manush, left newspaper work in '31 for publicist.

ass. In charge of PR to David Fleming, Pres. Of Angels in 1938; After Pearl Harbor, he volunteered for the USO, and served them till the end of the war. Also worked for Pro Bow, Jr. rose Bolw, Helms Foundation, yearly Shrine Hosp. Prep FB game.Phil.PA Phil., NY;Phil. Inquirer,Phil. Evening Telegraph,Phil. Evening Bulletin, Phil. Associated Press, NY Herald Tribune, NY Sun, NY North American, Phil. Public Ledger. Acknowledged as authority on tennis.

Meadeville,PA Wash.,D.C. 20009 578-09-8658Wash.D.C. Petersburg,VA Wash., D.C.

NYC 085-05-6446 NYSt. Louis,MO West Palm Beach,F 497-01-8877 St. Louis sports writer; St. Louis Star office boy in sp. dept.(Oct.'01-07,Apr.), St. Louis Times(Apr.'07-29,Dec.), St. Louis Star(Dec.'29-33), Star Times('33-51,Jun.15), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(Jun.15,'51-52,Jun.15), Hall of Fame director(Jun.15,'52-63).

Illinois St. Louis,MO 63119 492-05-4126 St. Louis sports writer; Sporting News ed.('30-54,Jun.). Started('11), Worked for papers in Champaign,IL,Rockford,Il, Great Falls,MT, Helena,MT, Collyer Publishing Co.(Chicago managing ed., which specialized in sp.publ.) BB hist. expert, WWI service.St. Louis,MO Clayton,MO 494-07-0371 inherited The Sporting News from his Dad in 1914, and owned, guided the best sports publication ever until his death in Dec., 1962. After his death, an award was

(Spink, continued) created for the best sports writers, the Spink Award. It's a lifetime achievement award for the sports writing profession.Georgetown, OH Cincinnati,OH 268-03-1888 Cinc. spwr; Moved Dayton '00, Dayton Herald('08-14), Cleveland Press(Mar.,1914-15,Sept.), Cinc.Post sp. ed.(Sept.,1915-?), WWI, Cinc. Post(1918-69). long-time Sp. News correspondent, statistics expert, President of BWAA('41). Loved golf. d. cancerMichigan Vista,CA 92083 282-05-2221 Cleveland spwr.; Det. Free Press('11), Toledo Blade, Dayton, Ann Arbor, Cleveland Leader copy reader,Started weekly sp. mag.,failed, Firestone Tire ad. dept.,Cleveland dept. store ad. man, Cleveland Plain Dealer('18), Cleveland Press sp.ed. (1930). Retired by '56Brooklyn,NY NYC NY s pwr.; NY Morning Telegraph reporter('08,10-11), NY Evening Sun('09), New York Tribune(copyreader, rewrite man,sports writer,sp.ed.,war correspondent, critic,columnist('11-21), NY World('21-28), NY Telegram('28-31), NY World-Telegram('31-39),

(Broun,continued), NY Post('39), Early as Giants fan, he would root violently for his Giants. In '17-18, WWI, disliked Pershing & sent his copy directly to NY Tribune. Harvard niv. 1910(Broun, continued) Lecturer on modern drama, Columbia Univ, 1920; Rand School, NY, 1921; dramatic ed, Vanity Fair; motion picture ed, Judge, NY Contributor to mags on the theatre, books, sports, and politics.

Racine,WI Waukegan,IL 321-05-4843 Chicago spwr.; Milwaukee Sentinel ('09-10), Chicago Record-Herald (Jan.2, 1910-14), Chicago Examiner (Oct.,'14-19), Chicago Tribune (June,'19-57, Nov.1). Known as baseball writer, but also wrote football in season. Covered 7,000 games, WS - 1911-57.Illinois Hollywood,CA 562-07-3807 Chi. sportswriter; minor league club official & sports announcer, credited with influencing Judge Landis into taking job as baseball's 1st commissioner. Way to go Oscar, thanks for nothing.Saratoga Springs,NYWashington, DC 20 220-34-8624 Washington spwr.; Earned Bach. / Master's NYU; NY World reporter, city ed., ass. Sports ed.; Arrived Washington, DC in 1917; Washington Post sports & city editor, editorial writer (1917 - 1925), Kinograms motion pictures newsreels ed. (NY); North American Newspaper Alliance feature writer 1932).

(FitzGerald, continued) Director / Moderator of American Sch. Of the Air, a program of Columbia Brdcsting Sys.; Info Dir. Dept. Labor under Miss Frances Perkins (1933-45), Ass. to Pres. Truman's assistnant (John R. Steelman); appointed PR staff of George Washington U. (Jan. 24, 1959) to handle press info of scientific activities. Zanesville,OH Cooperstown,NY Phil.;NY Globe,NY Sun; covered every World Series from 1923-49; Became Baseball's Hall of Fame's librarianNew London,CT W. Hartford,CT0610 047-10-1807 Hartford Times(CT) sp. wr. ; Began career at age 15 in 1905 as part-time reporter for his father's newspaper New London Day. Worked on Boston Post, Hartford Post, Hartford courant & Providence Journal; Hartford Times(Sept. 20,1920-1974,Jan.'74).Long Run,WV New Cannaan,CT St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis U. St. Louis Times (1908-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1909-17), WWI, Southwest Bell Telephone Co. PR dept. (1917), ass. VP of PR for AT&T ('27), ass. to Walter S. Gifford, the Pres. (1930). Retired (1950).Chicago,IL 342-01-1802 Executive; Admitted bar, WWI (Judge Advocate's dept.), law partnership, Worked in Judge Landis' office as his assistant & councel. He conducted investigations, wrote up Landis' decisions, supervised record-keeping in office ( Jan.,'21 - 44, November).

(O'Connor) Acting Commissioner ( Dec.,'44 - 45, May), special ass. to Comm. happy chandler (June - Oct., '46), VP & GM White Sox (Nov., '45- 48, Nov.), ML exec. council ('46-47), counsel Coast L. & later ('56-59) Pres. & attorney AA.Madeira Beach,FL Chi.

Chippewa Falls,WI Northridge,CA Detroit spwr.; Managing ed. & boxing promoter in Superior, WI; Detroit Times sports staff for 33 yrs. From '23-56. Respected authority of baseball, hockey and golf. Memphis,TN Caldwell,NJ 07006 270-03-9956 NY,Cle.

Baltimore,MD21218 217-05-9483 Wash. sp.wr.; He had worked for papers in Wash, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Lancaster,PA. He retired from the Baltimore News-American in 1968

Somerville, MA Bost. Spwr.; Daily Record sp. columnist & turf editor. Lynn NewsCalifornia Carmel,CA 549-48-5360 Stockton,CABoston,MA Essex,CT 06426 046-28-0972 NYBrooklyn,NY Richmond Hills, NY NY spwr.; NY World office boy('05-12) sporting staff ('12-18), NY American('18-20), NY World('20-31), NY Graphic(1931-39), New Yankees PR man('39-42,death), NY Mirror composing room('41-42,death). D. apoplexyDenver,CO Los Angeles,CA 548-05-9101 New York spwr.; NY American sp. wr.(Oct.'17-24), NY Daily Mirror sp.ed.(24-25), NY American man. ed.('25-28), NY Morning Telegraph('28), free lance biographer('28-60). Himself a true character, known for his many affairs. Hollywood script writer

(Fowler) Biographies: William Fallon, famous NYC attorney(The Great Mouthpiece,'31), John Barrymore(Good Night, Sweet Prince,'43), Jimmy Walker,NYC mayor,'26-32(Beau James,'49), Jimmy Durante(Schnozzola,'51), Minutes of the Last Meeting(W.C. Fields) (Fowler) edu; West Denver HS, Colo; Univ of Colo; Univ of Colo Sch. of Journalism

MA Boston,MA 02124 021-05-8567 Bost. sp. wr.; Boston Traveler('19-55). Former correspondent for The Sporting News.

Cuba Woodside,NY 099-20-4630NYC Pompano Beach,FL 110-09-9564 NY spwr.; national correspondent for TSN, mainly covered Yankees, was as much an authority in boxing as BB. NY World-Telegram, NY World-Telegram & Sun, Helped found

(Daniel, continued) Ring Magazine in 1922, Could also handle FB. Pres. BBWAA, Baseball Rules committee, Won Spink Award in 1972, BB's Hall of Fame Veterans committee, Chairman of NY chapter of BWAA, more honors/awards than can be listed. buried: Forrest Lawn Memorial Gardens, Pompano Beach, FLBaltimore,MD Phil.PA 161-14-7614 Phil. spwr; Phil. Press,(1911-?), Phil. North American(?-25), Phil. Public Ledger ass. sp.ed.(1925-mid-30's), Phil. Record sp. ed. (mid-30's-55). d. after stroke at home, several days before Sweden Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn Sports editor; Brooklyn Standard Union assistant to sports editor, William A. Rafter (1912-26), sports editor ('26-28), NY Moring Telegraph sports editor (1928-29), NY Times sports staff ('29-59).Brooklyn, NY Freeport, L. I., NY Brooklyn, NY spwr.: Worked for Brooklyn Citizen in 1917, former golf ed. of NY Journal-AmericanSan Francisco, CA Chatsworth, CA 561-12-9004 Los Angeles spwr.; Grad. Occidental C. ('21), LA Times political columnist for 30 yrs. Began his "By the Way" column in '39. TV & radio commentator for many yrs. Joined LA Times after grad. & covered movies, autos, aeronautics. Began radio '22.

(Henry, continued) Associated with LA Times from 1911-70. Was their war correspondent in France & South Pacific during WWII. NBC Network news analyst. Frankfort,IN Oak Park,IL Atlanta sports writer; Lexington Herald(TX)('16), Atlanta Georgian('16-?), World War I, Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('29-32), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.('32-39), Atlanta Journal sp.ed.('39-57,Feb.,retired). Public relations firm.

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(Burns,continued), WWI army service, Pres. BWAA('47), specialized in baseball(his favorite,football,hockey). Big jovial Ed mastered the art of satirical yet gentle ribbing & needling. Prowidence,RI Cleveland,OH Cleveland spwr.; Providence Journal spwr. ('08-20), Cleveland Plain Dealer spwr. (1920-25), sp.ed. ('25-46). d. at home of cerebral hemorrhagae, after suffering stroke on June 9. good bowler, golfer, FB referee, directed Golden Gloves tournament.St. Louis,MO North Hollywood,CA 560-26-9535 NYC spwr., synd. owner; St. Vincent College, LA; S. Cal. Univer. Law; Los Angeles Herald spwr. & cartoonist (1911-13), Motor Cars advertising manager (San Francisco) 1913-16, Detroit advertising ('17), Christy Walsh Syndicate (1921).

(Walsh, continued) started managing sports stars, such as Babe Ruth( he helped him organize his finances till wife Claire fired him),Founded newspapers sports syndicate('19-37), a group of sp. wr. to ghost write stars "autobio's.

(Walsh, continued) edu; St Vincent Col, Los Angeles, Cal; Univ of Southern Cal, Law NYC Greensboro,NC274 068-05-0519 NY sp.wr.; Staten Island Advance (NY)('15-23), NY Times(May 28,'23-'64, April 4), Sporting News correspondent, specialized in baseball most of his career. Was an accomplished pianist. BB Hall of Fame ('74,Spink Award) d. crematedPendleton,IN Libertyville,IL Chicago spwr.; Grad. Swarthmore C.('13), Philadelphia ('13-14), Chicago reporter ('14), Advertising('20-30). Chicago Daily News drama ed. sp. ed., amusement ed, picture ed. ('30-43). Became managing ed. ('43-46), Sun-Times columnist('46-49)

(Lewis, cont.) Biographies: Abraham Lincoln (Myths After Lincoln, 1929), General Sherman (Sherman, Fighting Prophet, 1932, almost finished a bio on Grant(Captain Sam Grant, 1949). Co-authored a history of Chicago. Lectured history at Chicago U. ('3738)Chicago,IL Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago Tribune(later Sunday ed.), New York Daily News, NY Herald & Examiner sp. wr.('36-?), NY American

Saginaw, MI 490-01-1756 St. Louis spwr.; Raised St. Louis, Attended U. of St. Louis, St. Louis Times (1914-16), St. Louis Republic (1916-17), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1917-61, Aug. 1). Sports desk in '23, then desk chief for many yrs. Occasionally went to spring training with Browns/ Cardinals. Long-time contributor to Sporting News. d. heart attackNYC NYC 060-07-5252 NYPA Pittsburgh,PA 167-05-4536 Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette('18-60), d. died at home, after recent stroke.

Wallaceburg,Ont. CaNYC Phil., NY; Phil. Press sp. wr,Phil Public Ledger sp. wr.,Phil. Inquirer sp. wr.,NY Times sp. copy desk('22-29), Chicago(Brunswick - Balke - Collender Co, Ins., PR director.,'20-34); NY Daily copy ed('34), NY Times (city ed.,'34, city desk obits('35-43)Allegheny, PA Melbourne,FL 084-09-5122 NY,Des Moines

Rockaway Park,NY 100-10-4702 NY

East Hampton,NY 1 068-01-5113 LA,HollywoodPhil.,PA Conshohocken,PA 058-07-5923 Philadelphia, NY sp.wr.; Phil. Evening Star, Phil. Bulletin, Phil. Record('12-?), Phil. Public Ledger('?-29,Feb.20), NY Times(Feb.1929 '32,Oct.9), Phil. Public Ledger(Oct.9,1932-34,Nov.), PR director of NL Service Bureau(Nov.,'34-45),

(Brandt,continued), Dr. Brandt, in addition to sp. writing, was an osteopathic physician,who graduated in 1911.After leaving the NL Service Bureau in '45, he conducted national radio sp. program 5 days a wk.(Inside of Sp.) for the Mutual Brdcsting system.South Boston,MA East Sandwich,MA 010-07-7654 Bost.Philadelphia,PA Wilmington,DE Pitts. Sp. Wr.Hopkinsville,KY Atlanta,GA 252-07-8697 Atlanta sports writer; Lexington Herald(TX)('16), Atlanta Georgian('16-?), World War I, Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('29-32), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.('32-39), Atlanta Journal sp.ed.('39-57,Feb.,retired). Public relations firm.Boston,MA Boston,MA 023-09-6829 Boston sports writer; Boston Journal, specialized in boxing (1913-17), US Navy ('17-18), Boston Record, specialized in BB, ('18-21), Boston Post, became ass. Sp. ed. in '22. Big follower of Red Sox. ('21-56), Red Sox publicity director('56-70).Missouri St. Louis,MO 492-05-4128 ST. Louis

Little Neck,NY 065-16-1730NYC Rockport,MA 068-05-0723 NYC sports writer('22-41)Detroit,MI Detroit,MI 378-09-4063 Det.California Monterey,CA 551-03-50 San Francisco, Los Angeles; Los Angeles Express sp.ed., San Francisco Examiner sp.ed.( ?-64).Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh sports writer; Pitts. Hill Top Record('13-?), Pitts. Tri-State News Service, Pitts. Chronicle Telegraph('16-27), Pitts. Sun Telegraph('27-29), Pitts. Post-Gazettle sp.ed.('29-47, death). His writing style was scholarly blended with Irish wit.St. Louis,MO St. Petersburg,FL 490-01-1685 St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch 1930.

Pelham, NY NY spwr. & sp. ed.: NY Daily Mirror spwr. & Ass. sp. ed. NY Journal-American outdoor ed. d. in Union Hospital in Bronx, NY.CA San Francisco,CA 566-09-3171 San Francisco spwr.: San Francisco Bulletin 1907-?, San Francisco Examiner 1926-69. Started as copy boy on Bulletin, divided his time between baseball and horse racing. In '69, his paper put him on a desk, to make him quit, on account of his age.Kansas City,MO Hollywood,FL 33021056-07-4125 St. Louis,NY sports writer; St. Louis Republic('13-19), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('19-?),Akron, Cleveland News,Milwaukee News(Wisconsin), St. Louis Post-Dispatch, New York Herald('23-24), New York Sun('24-50,sp.ed.34-50). Primarily boxing writer.

(Woods,cont.),served 11 mo. in naval aviation unit in France(WWI),Lived FL since retirement('50), d. stroke at home; In '26, Boxing Writers Ass. formed, elected Wood Pres.; When Joe Vila died('34), Wood replaced him as sp. ed of NY Sun untll '50.

MA Boston,MA Boston sp. wr. & sp. ed; Boston Traveler('12-14), Boston Transcript (sp. wr.,'14-28, sp. ed.,28-40), Boston Traveler sp. columnist('41-61,Jun.)Waterbury,CT Waterbury,CT 055-09-3680 NY sports writer; Waterbury Republican (CT) reporter (1912-13), Waterbury American (CT) spwr. (1913-24); NY Mirror('24-63), New York Journal American('63-67).Worcester, MA Cle. In 1917, Worcester Evening Gazette reporterMissouri Sarasota,FL 33579 090-01-9550 NY28-60,KC18-28NYC New Rochelle,NY 056-03-9051 NYC spwr; Born Harlem,NYC; NY Sun spwr('15-34), sports columnist('34-43), Look magazine sp. ed.('43-45), NY Journal-American sports columnist, Graham's Corner('45-65). Wrote 6 sports books. Boxing authority. d. Fractured skull in bathroom fall at homeCalifornia Forest Park,IL 345-05-7939 SF,Chicago,NY spwr; Born California; San Francisco Call-Post; NY Mail('22-23), Chicago Herald Examiner sp. ed.('23-39),Chicago Herald-American('39- Sept. 25, 1941), Chicago Sun sp.ed.(Nov. 27, 1941 - Dec. 20, 1946), Chicago Herald-American (Dec. 20, 1946 - July, 1967, Chicago Today(1967 - 1974). Chairman Hall of Fame Veterans Committee.Bellaire,OH Cocoa Beach,FL 549-18-1498 NY

NYC Bronx,NY NY sp. wr.; Attended Morris HS,attended NY School of Fine & Applied Arts, attended National Academy of Design(NY) for 1 yr., Served 2 yrs. in US Navy(World War I); Baseball Magazine art director & ass. editor('19-37), Editor-in-Chief,art director('37-54).Boston,MA Grosse Pointe Farm 366-05-2157 Detroit spwr.; Det. News (1920-71)New York Brookline,MA 011-05-4161 Bost.

Astoria,OR Bronx,NY 272-10-8672 NY, Phil. sp.wr.; Portland Oregonian(?-17), WWI Marine Corps, Newpaper Enterprise Association, WWII war correspondent with US Air Force, Authored:They Played the Game('44) d. cancerCarmel, CA 93921 564-07-5823 Los Angeles spwr.; Los Angeles Times sports columnist, cartoonist artist (1922-32), did many magazine covers. Sports cartoonist, "Seein' Stars", appeared in hundreds of newspapers from 1941-53. Came in 3rd in High Hurdles at 1920 Antwerp, Belgian Olympic Games.

Philadelphia,PA Glenside,PA 19038 186-03-2816 Phil. sp.wr.; Served in WW1, returned home Aug.,1919, Attended Temple U.(Phil), Sporting Life ed. staff(Phil), Philadelphia Record covered both the Phillies & Athletics(spr.'24-47). Phillies PR staff in charge of press & radio service('47-56).Michigan Carmel,CA 486-03-9145 Chicago,Kansas City sp wr; Kansas City Journal sp. ed.('14-36), Chicago Herald-American sp.ed.('37-?), Hearst sp. director d. heart ailmentIN St. Louis,MO 63119 492-05-4127 Sporting News editor until 1959Minneapolis,MN St. Louis,MO Minneapolis Journal sp.wr.('10), Minneapolis Tribune night sp.ed.('11-12),Indianapolis Star('13-15), Det. Free Press news reporter('16-17), WW1('18), ToledoTimes telegraph ed.(OH)('19)city ed.('20), St. Louis Times managing ed.('21-23) d. brain hemorrhage

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(Farrington, continued) ST. Louis Post-Dispatch feature ed.('24), Sporting News ed.('24-28), NY Herald Tribune news makeup('28-30), St. Louis Times sp.ed.('30-32), Sporting News Ass.Ed. - column "Fanning with Farrington" ('32-43). (Farrington, continued) St.Louis Post-Dispatch sp.wr('43-53). Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Missouri St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Times (1912-14), St. Louis Post-Dispatch ('15 - 61, Aug.), Was a Sporting News correspondent for St. Louis (Dec. 9, '26 - 61); Sporting News Ass. ed.(Aug.,'61-66). Ozark,AL Philadelphia sp.wr.; World War I, Chicago sp.wr., Cleveland sp. wr.: Phil. Inquirer(1940-44,Mar), Phil. Evening Bulletin sp. staff(Mar.'44-44,Jun.3),

Minneapolis,MN Tucson,AZ 114-05-8078 NY spwr.; Des Moines newspaper, United Press office in NY('12),St. Louis,Dallas,TX as a reporter, buss. manager. Went to London, England as foreign correspondent with Amer. Expeditionary Force, '16. Enlisted US Navy. After war, returned to UP('19)(Pegler, continued) in NY office, as spwr. & sp. ed. From 1925-33, Pegler was an extremely high-paid spwr. for the Chicago Tribune. In 1933, he was sent to Washington, DC, to write politics & politicians. He developed an extremely bitterly-biting, (Pegler, continued) critical, ascerbic style of attack journalism. Became feared for his poisoned pen, or type-writer. In 1933, Pegler went nationally syndicated with his "Fair Eough" column for Scripps-Howard, within the Hearst family of papers. He targeted labor union bosses as a menace. In '44, went to NY Journal-American, with "As Pegler Sees It." Pegler became a 1930's & 40's version of Rush Limbaugh & Joe McCarthy. When the Political Right unleashed it's dogs of war, Pegler was the lead dog.(Pegler, continued) In 1949, Westbrook Pegler attacked Quentin Reynolds so bitterly, that Quentin sued him for libel & won. Louis Nizer was Reynold's Jewish attorney, who won for him $175,000. and earned the enmity of Pegler for Jews. But after that (Pegler, continued) Pegler's career didn't seem to have it's former impetus. The case had lasted 5 yrs.

California San Francisco,CA 552-03-9909Dallas,TX Phil.,PA 186-03-1875 Philadelphia Phillies pitcher & Philadelphia sp.wr.; Phillies pitcher('14-26),Philadelphia Inquirer reporter(Feb,27,'27-29, sp.wr.'29-55).

Phil.PA Miami,FL 33141 088-03-1904 Phil,NY,FL sports writer; Philadelphia Public Ledger('12-?), Phil. Record(?-23), NY Telegram('23-24, 6 months), NY Post('24-33),NY Journal-American('33-38),Miami Daily News('38-42),Miami Herald(Nov,'44-79, My.31).(Kofoed, continued), Served in WWI (France, non-commissioned) & WWII(London, PR officer, 8th Air Force).

Wawaka,IN Bronxville,NY 10708056-10-2047 NY spwr & BB exec; Colorado Springs Gazette spwr('15-21), NY American spwr. ,covered Giants('21-31), NY Journal spwr. covered Yankees(31-33), NL publicist('33-?), NL President('35-51), BB Commissioner('51-65).

South Philadelphia, Winnewood,PA 164-03-1840 Philadelphia sports writer; Phil.Public Evening Ledger sp. ed.('18-42), Phil Evening Bulletin('42-63).Battle Creek, MI Chicago,IL Chicago spwr; Elmira Advertiser sp.ed. (NY), San Antonio News, Houston Post, Galveston News, WWI aviation corps, started as BB writer on Chicago Journal ('20-?), Chicago News,

Chicago Herald & Examiner (1933), Chicago Daily News, Chicago Herald-American. Ill for yr. San Francisco,CA San Francisco,CA 547-03-9041 San Francisco spwr.; SF Daily News, off. boy ('09-11),SF News police reporter, Love Advice Column "Cynthia Grey", ('11-15), sp.ed. ('15-42); Partner in Sacramento bowling alley. Specialized in boxing & baseball. Knew Dempsey, DiMaggio, O'Doul.Jarbalo,KS Ormond Beach,FL3 348-01-3963 World War I service('18); ML pitcher(20,21,28); managed the following minor league clubs: Terre Haute,Crookston,Louisville, Indianapolis, Davenport, New Orleans,St. Joseph, Rock Island, Lincoln. Coached Red Sox('44), Pirates('47-48,58-63).NYC NYC NY Times boxing ed.('15-53), helped found the NY Boxing Writers Association in 1936 and served as it's 1st Vice President.Missouri St. Louis,MO 63109 489-07-6872 St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star('16-?), St. Louis Republic, St. Louis Globe-Democrat, World War I('17-18), St. Louis Globe-Democrat spwr.('19-41, 43-early 50's) covered Cardinals & Browns,sp. ed.('41-43), (early 50's-60, copy desk work).

(Haley, continued) d. pneumonia Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

McKeesport,Pa NYC NY spwr.; grad. Columbia College('17), WWI, served as attache in France (Aug. '17- May,'19), NY Times spwr. ('19-28), NY Morning Telegraph sp.ed.('28-30), Columbia College athletic publicity director.Xenia,OH Dayton,OH NY,Cle spwr; Started on ed. staffs Xenia Gazette & Columbus Dispatch(OH),Army with 37 Div(Jun.2,'17)., joined UP sp.ed. NY. Left UP to join Newspaper Enterprises Alliance in Cleveland. Got ill,left NEA. Dayton Daily News & papers in Chicago & Detroit.London, England Shorewood,Milwaukee,WI Milwaukee spwr.: Arrived Milwaukee as child. Milwaukee Journal reporter('11-55), BB writer'18-55. Office boy Mil. Journal Feb.,1911, cub reporter shortly afterwards. Covered BB & Boxing; 1st Mil. radio announ. '26. heart attack at home, ill 4 yrs.

Paramus,NJ07652 156-05-9018 NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept. Worchester,MA White Plains,NY 084-09-4724 Bost.,NYDonalds, SC Greenville,SC Greenville Piedmont, Greenville(SC)News sp. ed.; editor of newspapers since before 1930. Detroit scout d. heart attack

Bronx,NY 10468 055-09-3657 NY sp. wr.; NY Mirror sp. wr. for 35 yrs. Wilkes-Barre, PA Wilkes-Barre, PA Wilkes-Barre (PA) sp.ed; secretery to Mayor, city council member. d. heart ailment, confined to his bed since ChristmasSpeed,MO NYC NY sp.wr.; Boonville,MO HS, U. Miss.('17), WWI(army,France,'17-18); NY Times('20-25), NY Journal-American('25-58),Specialized in BB,horse racing,boxing; Supervised one of his favorite things, Kentucky Derby('49-58). d. lung cancer at St. Luke's Hosp.,NYStuart,VA Detroit,MI Detroit spwr; Attended Randolph Macon College(Ashland,VA), WWI('17-18); Worked papers in Roanoke,VA, Key West,FL, Beaumont,TX. Moved Detroit('22), Detroit Free Press spwr('22-24,Jan), Detroit News(Jan.31,'24-63). Liked FB, Loved boxing,was expert.

NYMilford Center,OH Dayton,OH 323-14-2348 Dayton, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Dayton U., Dayton News ('16), Dayton Herald ('17), Detroit News, only 3 months ('18), Cleveland Plain Dealer ('19-23), Cleveland News (23-29) , Chicago Consolidated Press sp. ed. ('29-54),

(Powers, continued), Chicago Daily News, Chicago American, PR director of college Football's East-West Shrine Football Game('55-75, SF,CA) Returned Dayton, OH '75. Lived Biltmore Hotel. Specialized in football writing during the season, and golf. (Powers, continued), edu; Milford Center & St. Mary's HS; Dayton Univ; Ohio state College

Indianapolis,IN Olympia,WA 532-16-4050 NY spwr.; Enlisted WWI ('17-18), New York Daily News sp. ed.('18-39), left NYC('39), Daily Olympian(Washington state) sp. ed.('39-61). Was always considered the closest scribe pal of Babe Ruth. Pensacola,FL Spring Valley,NY 084-09-5114 NY spwr.; Dallas Dispatch reporter, Minneapolis News reporter, New York Evening Mail, Paris Herald (European edition of NY Herald (1925-34), NY Herald Tribune reporter and columnist (1934-66). Chicago,IL Chicago,IL Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago Record-Herald('?-17), WWI(Navy petty officer), ad business('18-23), Chicago Evening American('23-), Chicago Herald-Examiner, In '34 Jimmy was hit by a car & hospitalized for almost a yr. d. lung ailmentPattonville,TX Newton,MA Boston sp.wr.; WWI; Dallas News(TX) reporter('21-22), Boston Post sp.wr. & general columnist('22-41), Boston Herald(March,1941-60). In Sept.'58, his cancerous larynx was removed, rendering him mute,ending his radio career. d. throat cancer

Boston,MA 010-03-4390 Bost. Cinc.OH 45245 269-01-8936 Cinc. sp. wr.: Louisville (KY) Courier-Journal state ed., Cincinnati Times-Star('23-58) sp. ed.('30-58). Retired when Scripps-Howard Co. bought Times-Star & formed the Post & Times-Star. He began his career with a weekly paper in Long Prairie,Minn.

Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn,NY 058-03-0516 Brooklyn spwr.; Attended grammar sch. In Brooklyn; NY Evening Sun - printer's devil (June, 1911). He became a copy boy in '14, covered Wall St. ('16), Baseball starting '18 until he died. Covered the Dodgers all his career. Once commented dryly, "Over-confidence can cost the Dodgers sixth place."

Lincoln,IL Cleveland,OH Cleveland sp.ed.; Lincoln Courier-Herald('13), WWI (missed fighting), Springfield IL. State Register, Cleveland Plain-Dealer, Newspaper Enterprise Ass. sp. wr.('25-39). Retired by 1956.Irwin,IL Chicago,IL Chicago spwr.: Conducted Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June 14, 1937 to his death in '55. He'd inherited this most prestigious, oldest, continuous of all sports columns fr. his predecessor, Harvey Woodruff. d. heart attackMissouri St. Louis,MO 494-09-1322 St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatech (1921-66). Specialized in boxing and baseball. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOYarmouth,ME Portland,ME 140-09-9340 NY sp. wr.; Sporting News(St. Louis), New York Herald Tribune('27-30), NY Daily News sp. wr.('30-62,retired), After service in world War I, he began his sports-writing career, which included 15 newspapers.Philadelphia,PA Mt. Lebanon,PA Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Gazette Times(2 weeks,'14), Pittsburgh Post('14-19), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times sp.ed.('19-23), Baltimore American sp.ed.('23-25), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('25-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph('27-60).NYC Yonkers,NY 088-09-1319 NY sports writer; NY Mail, International News Service('17-23,25-34), Havana Telegram('23-25), Boston American('34-38), NY Journal-American, sp.ed.('38-66).

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NYC Monte Carlo,Monaco NY, Europe spwr; WWI navy for 1.5 yrs.; NY Daily News: movie critic,'22, spwr,'23-24, sp.ed., columnist, ass.managing ed.(24-36); war correspondent('44) for Cosmopolitan; After '36 Berlin Olympics, left Daily News for freelance fiction writing. (Gallico, continued) Bought home in South Devon,England('36), & began living overseas but didn't move abroad permanently until '50. Some of his books: Farewell to Sports('38), Lou Gehrig, Pride of the Yankees('42), The Golden People('65), (Gallico, continued) edu; De Witt Clinton HS, NY Columbia U. BA, 1921. NY Illustrated New, 1923-?, sp. ed.

Toronto,Canada Huntington,NY NY; NY Tribune('25-_)

Chicago,IL Chicago,IL 60640 337-10-3782 Chi. spwr; Chicago Examiner spwr, Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Journal, Chicago American spwr & ed.('43-69), Chicago Today sp.ed.('69), Founder,pres. Amateur softball Assn..,1930-38; pres., Nat. Professional Basketball League, 1940-44.Illinois Chicago,IL 60646 320-05-0819 Chicago sports writer; Chicago Evening Journal('20-29), Chicago Daily News('29-?), Esquire Magazine sp. ed.; wrote Out of Bounds(1937), football stories from the 1930's. Wrote at least until 1947. Retired by '56. d. cardio-respiratory arrest

Pennsauken,NJ 081 164-05-6499 Phil. sportswriter; Phil. Public Ledger(1921-34),Phil. Inquirer('45-57), US Navy('42-45), Phil. Inquirer('45-57), Camden Courier-Post('57-67,April).NYC 10025 082-07-7828 Brooklyn,NY sp. wr.; Brooklyn Times,NY Morning World, NY Journal-American, NY Daily Mirror('33-63), covered the Brooklyn Dodgers. Livonia, MI 48154 363-07-4356 Detroit spwr.; Allentown Record, 1 man sp. staff, Detroit Free Press(1924-48)

Allentown, PA Detroit,MI Detroit spr.; Pittsburgh U.; Allentown Record (1919-?) miscellaeous work; obituaries, city ed.. Reading Times (PA), reporter, cartoonist, Philadelphia Record (1924-28); Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts; Detroit Free Press sp. ed., sports columnist, BB writer, cartoonist (1928-45), Detroit Times boxing / horse racing writer (1945-60). Phil.,PA Vero Beach,FL 060-09-2360 NY spwr; Worked for papers in Elmira, Ithaca & Binghamton, NY; Ithaca Journal reporter (1917); Associated Press, NY sp. ed. , Executive editor, ('22-63). Moved Florida ('75). d. heart attackNYC NYC NYC sp. wr. ; New York Evening Journal office boy, New York Globe reporter, NY Mail, Bronx Home News, NY Evening Graphic, Miami Tab, NY Daily Mirror sp. wr.

NYC Bronxville,NY 109-01-7660 NY spwr.; NY Times Assistant sp. ed. (1923-37), sp. ed. (1937-58) Waco,TX Ramsey,NJ 097-07-0920 Brook., NY sports writer; Graduated Cornell U.('16-21), interrupted by WW1('18-19), Brooklyn Daily Eagle sp.writer('21-23), NY Times('23-68).Authored 8 sp. history books. Has received honors from many sports:BB,FB,tennis,rowing, & colleges,Universities Atlantic City,NJ Phil.,PA Phil.

Milwaukee,WI Milwaukee sp. ed.; sp. ed. of the Nowiny Polskie, daily Polish newspaper of Milwaukee,WI. He had covered the Milwaukee Brewers of the American Ass. for more than 20 yrs. & was a Polish sp. encyclopedia. Was expert on Polish athletes. Favorite:Al SimmonsDuluth,MN Detroit,MI Detroit sports writer; Started out at newspapers in Port Huron, Flint, MI, Duluth, MN; Detroit Times (1919-37). Chairman of Michigan State Athletic Board of Control (1937-39). NYC Spokane,WA 99203 127-09-2777 NY spwr; NY Sun sp. ed., Long Island Daily Star managing editor(1921-?). Moved to Spokane in 1941 and was city editor and associate editor of the Spokesman Review. Also served WWI sgt. 1st army. Springdale,PA Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh sports writer; World War I (1st class quartermaster); Pittsburgh Dispatch('20-23), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('24-27), Cleveland Press('27-31), Pittsburgh Press('31-66,retired). Died in St. Clair Memorial Hosp.

San Francisco, CA 558-10-9188 San Francisco spwr; Grad. Stanford law School ('21), San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1934-65). d. after a lingering illness, was admitted to Presbyterian Hospital, and a series of abdominal operations failed to save him. Active in SF Press Club.Lawrenceville,IL Urbana,IL 329-38-9874 Chicago sports writer; Crawfordsville Review city ed. ('16-18), South Bend Tribune('18-23), Washington DC Daily News sp.ed.('23-28), St. Louis Sporting News, St. Louis Star-Times, Chicago Journal('28-29), Chicago Daily News sp.ed('29-48), Boxing & BB

(Kessler,continued), Chicago Sun-Times columnist('48-58), semi-retire('58), moved to FL. & continued writing for Chicago Sun-Times. Woodstock,NY 056-03-9060 NY, Boston spwr; WWI US navy seaman; Grad. Harvard('26), Boston Globe reporter('26,30), NY Sun reporter('30-39), Fortune Mag. ass.ed('39-42), Herard Tribune rod & gun ed.('49-?), novelist

Cleveland Hts.,OH Tucson,AZ 272-10-8428 Cleveland sp.wr.; Joined Marines(Feb.11,1918), Cleveland Plain Dealer (police reporter,'24-27, sp.wr.,'27-44, war correspondent,'44-45, editorial columnist,'45-46, sp.ed.,'46-64), Cleveland Times editorial wr.('27).Niagara Falls,NY Phil.,PA 490-10-9534 NY

Orlando,FL 466-10-6033Toledo,OH Toledo,OH 363-18-2701 Det., Toledo,Cle. sports writer; El Paso Herald, Toledo Times('17-?), Toledo News-Bee, Toledo Blade, Cleveland News, Detroit Times(13 years), Flint Journal(7 years), NY Mirror, King Features, Hearst Sunday Features, Toledo Times('45-67,Apr.).

Murray,KY 084-09-5127 New York sports writer; Washington Herald('23-24), Washington Daily News('24-25), NY Times('25-31), NY Morning Telegraph, NY HeraldTribune,NY Herald Tribune(in England,'45-?). Retired by 1956.Clarington,OH Cleveland Hts.,OH Cle. sp.wr.; Ravenna Record(OH), Cleveland Plain Dealer(Sept.,'22-64). d. in his sleep at the Alcazar Hotel in Cleveland Heights,OH.

Kearny,NJ 091-09-7108 NYNYC 084-09-5110 NY Ealham College in 1917.

Cecil, WI (nr. Green Upper Darby,PA 19 163-07-2458 Phil. spwr.; Enlisted Aviation corps for WWI, discharged Dec.15,'18, without overseas service. Grad. U. of Wisconsin journalistic course('22). Buffalo Courier, Duluth News-Tribune, Superior Telegram, Port Huron Times Herald, Chicago American,(Peterman, continued) Milwaukee Wisconsin News, Phil. North Amer. Phil. Bulletin spwr./columnist ('24-38), Phil. Inquirer('38-54), Inquirer WWII correspondent & international corresp, founded Phil. Ins. Info. Corp., lecturer, Radio Ins. Q&A program.

(Peterman, continued) Mr. Peterman's reputation was based on his Phil. Inquirer days from '38-58. He wrote that America wasn't getting its value from the Marshal Plan. Covered UN, Nato, peace conferences & assorted world events.Park Ridge, IL 345-07-5552 Chicago sports writer; NFL player, and later an official; 1st Pres. of College FB Writers Ass. Chicago Tribune (1922-55, spwr. 1955-66, sp. ed). Wrote on many sports.

Zanesville,OH Detroit,MI Det. spwr; WWI, WWII ( enlisted Army Air Forces, 1942, Pacific theater, was major; , VP of Detroit Lions, National FB club, Detroit Times spwr.('25-29,)(sp.ed'29-?)., PR director of radio station WWJ(Detroit). White Plains,NY 10 111-05-1422 Brooklyn, Los Angeles spwr.;

Milwaukee,WI NYC Balt., Phil., NY sports writer; NY Daily News city, sports ed. (?-37, Oct.), King Features Syndicate, NY Daily Mirror, NY PostBussey,Iowa San Diego,CA 557-09-2754 San Francisco sports writer; Omaga Bee,Klamath Falls News, Sacramento Bee, Sacramento Union, San Fran. United Press Bureau, San Fran. Call('26-?),SF Call-Bulletin'26-59)('47-59, sp.ed.), SF News-Call Bulletin('59-65),

(McDonald,continued), San Francisco Examiner rewrite man('65-67,Jan. 25, retired), After retirement moved to Mexico to enjoy the good life, but just couldn't stop writing free lance. In 1978, moved back to San Diego.Springfield,MA 0110 026-10-4337 Springfield,MA; Grad. Boston College. Springfield Republican(MA)(1923-49), appointed sp. ed. 1930-49. d. heart attack in Boca Raton, FL.

Akron Something to Cheer AboutMemphis,TN 38111 412-05-8681 Memphis,TN sp. ed.; Memphis Commercial Appeal(TN) sp. ed.(('23-72), Cleveland,OH 285-05-5896 Cle.

Drexel Hill,PA 161-10-6642 Phil.Dorchester,MA 021 010-07-8459 Bost. spwr; outstanding trackman and 2nd baseman in his youth. Boston Traveler spwr.('25-'29), Boston Transcript spwr.('29-33), Boston American sp. ed. & columnist('33-?). WWII went overseas as correspondent for New England troops in Europe.Ventnor City,NJ 150-09-1216

South Boston,MA Cambridge,MA 0213011-01-9430 Boston sp. wr.; Boston American('17-33), Boston Telegram, Boston Daily Record, Sunday AdvertiserHuntington,NY NY sp. wr.; New York Times sports staff(?-'44,Feb.), Metropolitan race track publicity relations

Tacoma, WA San Francisco, CA San Francisco spwr.; Grad. U. of Washington. Pacific Coast sp. ed. For Associated Press for 30 yrs. Noted golf, boxing, Rose Bowl writer.

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(Newland, continued) Reported the rise of Joe DiMaggio and the founding of the East-West FB game. D. Knew he was ill for 6 months, heart attack in St. Francis Hospital, SF, bed-ridden to he passed, required hospital treatment for obscure blood infection & neck injury suffered in WWI. NYC Westbury,NY 096-09-5254 NY spwr; Wrote baseball 12 yrs. before TV show. NY Mail, World, Morning Telegraph, Daily News(column "Little Old New York", which he continued till his death; Gained TV immortality for his long-running Sunday night TV variety show, "The Ed Sullivan Show" (June 20,1948- June 6,1971); d. cancer

Phoenix,AZ 067-07-6301 Bost. Globe baseball writer 30 yrs. Chicago,IL Culver City, CA 560-18-9115 Los Angeles sp. wr.; Los Angeles Times sp. wr. & columnist('25-

New Bedford,MA NYC 10005 084-09-5126 NYStamford,CT NYC NY spwr.; Attended NYC public sch. And grad. Friends Seminary there. NY World artist, later spwr, (1921-22), Wrote sports from 1923-31 for NY Herald Tribune, NY Mirror, NY Evening World. Covered Yankees, Dodgers, and Giants. From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr.

(Mann, continued) From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr. Free lance writer, radio writer, broadcaster. From 1946-49, asst. to Pres. Brookly Dodgers. Assisted in Negro integration in organized BB, 1945 & ML BB, 1947. (Mann, continued) Asst. Pres. Branch rickey Continental L. '59-60, Wrote Jackie Robinson '50, BB Confidential '51, Branch rickey bio '57, Editor & collaborator: The Real McGraw (by Mrs. John McGraw), Off and runjning (by Bill Corum) 1959.

Decatur,GA 299-01-1529 Cle.,AkronBrooklyn,NY San Francisco,CA 096-01-1345 Brook., NY; Retired from writing by 1956.MN Pasadena,CA 552-10-1339 PasadenaDanbury,CT Palatine Bridge,NY 089-10-6609 NY25-63,H of F 64-80

Waterbury,CT Naples,FL 082-22-5327 Free lance author of sports books; New York Times reporter('27-28), New York Stock Exchange('29-44), free-lance writer('36-70's). US Naval reserve('42-44). one of his best: The Story of BaseballWatertown,NY 075-07-6148 Watertown(NY) Times sp.ed. for 43 yrs. until his retirement.Flushing,NY 11354 097-03-1174 NY

St. Joseph,MO 488-44-7524 St. LouisBelleville,IL (Utah? San Francisco,CA 560-01-9372 San Francisco spwr; Salt Lake Tribune general assignment reporter, Denver Rocky Mountain News sp. ed.; Denver Evening News, San Francisco Examiner sp. ed. (1931-66).Bronx,NY NYC NYPhiladelphia,PA Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn spwr.; Went to grammar sch. And Brown Prep in Phil. Left for Brooklyn. Fordham U. , St. John's College; Brooklyn Standard-Union in '28, Brooklyn Times, 1929, Brooklyn Times-Union, Brooklyn Eagle,

Euclid,OH 272-10-8432 Cle.Montreal,Canada Montreal,Can. spwr.; Montreal Star spwr. (1925-67), Sporting News correspondent for many yrs. d. after long illness

Pitts. sports writer; Pitts. Gazette-Times copy boy('16-?), Pitts. Chronicle-Telegraph, Pitts. Sun-TelegraphSt. L, Chi., Det. sports writer; St. Louis Republic , St. Louis Globe-Democrat , St.Louis Star Times, (May 21, 1936?-'40?), Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Sun, Detroit Times, Chicago Times (Nite sports editor)

Jackson Heights,NY 092-03-3572 Brook.,NYLauderdale Laikes, 082-05-7950 NY spwr.; NY Evening World (1924-26), NY Post (1926-74), During his 48 yrs. at the NY Post, he served as a reporter, feature writer, columnist and sports editor. D. Heart attackMiami,FL 33134 253-03-7666 Miami(FL) Herald Sp. ed. - 20 yrs.

Nashville,TN Near North Side,Chi 340-01-2301 Chicago spwr.; Howard College ('21-24); Birmingham Age-Herald copy boy (1917-25), Tampa Tribune (FL) city ed. (1925-?), Chicago Times (1929-74) reporter 1929, sp. Columnist, sp. Ed. 1941; WWII, enlisted Navy, chief of Navy press in Wash.DC; Chicago Sun-Times man. ed., 1949-74. Lerner Newspapers man. ed. and later executive ed. Wrote several history books. Madison,Wis. Chicago,IL 60640 336-09-7074 Chicago sp.wr.; Milwaukee Journal reporter night police, Milwaukee Leader, Chicago Herald-Examiner sp. wr('27-32), Chicago Daily News(sp.wr.'32-43,sp.ed.43-72). Loved baseball, passionate about horse racing. Won Spink Award('75) putting him in BB H of F.

Red Bank,NJ 07701 143-03-4844 Statistician & writerSt. Petersburg,FL 3 267-09-1580 FLNYC NY

Roxbury, MA NYC 066-10-8018 NY spwr.; NY Post spwr. & columnist (1934-67) Specialized in Football, boxing, thoroughbred racing, His column was called "Buckshot". NYC Boston,MA Boston spwr.; Boston Travelor sports editor / columnist (1940-65)

Cleveland,OH Bal Harbour,FL 067-07-2925 NY spwr.; Cleveland Press, '25-26, NY sp. ed. NEA syndicate('27-28), NY News, '29--33, NY Daily News, 1936-59.Cincinnati,OH 4523 269-01-6411 Cincinnati Enquirer Sp. ed.; Pres. of Baseball Writers Association of America('52).

Roanoke,VA 225-10-6260 Roanoke,VASt. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star spwr.('23-51), Associate editor Sporting News('51-79). Gained attention after WWII by reports on Mexican League raids on major leagues. d. heart attack, buried, Resurrection Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOSouth Carolina Los Angeles,CA 567-01-6472 Los Angeles

Chicago,IL Scottsdale,AZ Chicago sports writer; Chicago Daily New('24-36), Wisconsin News(Milwaukee), Intntn News service(Chicago office), Chicago Times('36-47), Chicago Sun-Times('47-57). Left Sun-Times in '57 and became a real estate agent in Scottsdale. d. cancerCleveland,OH 285-03-1368 Cleveland spwr.; Cleveland News sp. columnist more than 20 yrs. until it went out of publication in '60.

Phil.,PA Oaklyn,NJ St. Louis sports writer; Atlantic City review, Camden Evening Courier(shore resort correspondent), Camden Evening Courier('25-26), Camden Morning Post,sp. dept.('26-?), new Camden Courier, St. Louis Sporting News('36-38), Phil. Record('39-45,Jan.).Brooklyn,NY 091-05-2009 NY spwr.; NY Journal sp.rep. ('22), Brooklyn Daily Times ('23-29), NY World Telegram ('29-40), NY PM('40-48), NY Star sp.ed.('48), NY Morning Telegraph sp.ed.('48) , NY Collier sp.ed.('50-56), AS Barnes publishing, Yankees, Mets, authored BB's Best,1964Eastchester,NY 107 050-09-4711 Brooklyn Eagle spwr. 1923-55, Mets PR & TR Sec. (1962-80).

Mystic,CT Washington, DC Wash, Baltimore spwr; His mother was Shinnecock Indian; Grew up Wash. DC, 5 blocks from Griffith stadium, Grad. Howard U., bachelor's in physical education('23). Devoted his early life to lobbying for integration of ML baseball & society.(Lacy, continued) Washington Tribune: part-time spwr., reporter('18-20,23-30), managing ed., spwr.,('30-34), sp.ed., columnist('34-39); Baltimore Afro-American spwr., columnist('39-40), sp.ed., columnist('43-, Chicago Defender ass. national ed.('40-43),(Lacy, continued) 1st black in the Baseball Writers Association('48), Taylor Spink Award(Baseball Hall of Fame, 1997), Personally knew many black stars(J.Louis,J.Owens,A.Ashe), but never shirked from criticizing them if he felt warranted. Mentor: father

Liverpool, Eng. Sun City West, AZ 107-07-3241 Brooklyn,NY sports writer; Born England, Brooklyn Citizen('19-26), New York Mirror('26-46), Manager of National Service Bureau, Secretary-Treasurer in Commissioner's office('65-71,Feb), administrator players benefit plan,(Segar, continued), Chairman Players Rules Committee('62-71,lJul.23), Blue Book revision committee. Loved golf, movies, TV, d. natural causes, cremated, buried: Pinelawn Cemetery, Long Island, NY

Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn, NY spwr.; Brooklyn Eagle('26, Oct., -56), mostly covered the Dodgers, Herald Tribune('56-66), mostly covered the Dodgers, until they left town for Los Angeles, CA. Authored The Dodgers('75).NYC 060-03-0203 NY sp. ed; International News Service(NY) sp. ed.('36-51), Camillo restaurant(NY) owner('51-57), 2 yrs. sp. PR., Lawton Carver's café(NY), assistant to John Denson,ed. of Herald Tribune, NY Journal-American kitchen ed.(under name Prudence Penny).

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NYC Glendale,CA 100-10-8644 Brooklyn,NYRed Bluff, CA Los Angeles, CA 560-12-8383 Grad. Los Angesles Polytechnic HS, joined LA Times as cub reporter, became baseball writer, '24, started his "X-Ray" column in '34. also wrote FB, Boxing, Tennis, basketball. Became ass. sp. ed. in '26. d. malignancy in California Lutherean Hosp.Lafayette,IN Lincoln,AZ Cle. spwr.; Miami Daily Tab ed. (FL), Daytona Beach New-Journal ed.(FL) (1927-29), press agt.-juvenile, touring Tab museum show,('29-30); Cleve.Press ass. sp.ed.('31-37), sp.ed, sp. columnist, & spwr.('37-58, death). Sp.ed. radio sta. WGAR, Cleve.,'37-39.Chicago,IL NYC 10021 564-26-6201 Wrote 1 baseball book, My Baseball Diary; also wrote 52 other books, the most popular of which was: Studs Lonigan(1932) and it's 2 sequels in '34 and '35. Had a life-long love for baseball.

Pittsburgh,PA 1521 192-07-7508 Pittsburgh sp. wr.; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette(sp. wr. '26-47,sp.ed..('47-74), Wayne,PA 161-10-6548 Phil. spwr; Phil. Public Ledger, Phil. Evening Bulletin(19 yrs.). Founder of Maxwell Memorial FB club. Commissioner of Middle Atlantic Intercollegiate FB Conference ('40-45).

Cleveland,OH Fort Lauderdale,FL NY sp. ed.; NY World-Telegram('28), NY Sun; specialized in tennis,hockey. Had been President of United States Lawn Tennis & NY Hockey Writers Ass. Had been 6' athlete. Grad. fr.Syracuse University. WWII-Army captain,Stars&Stripes,cov.N.Afica,Sicily.Cleveland,OH Denver, CO Denver, Pittsburgh spwr.; In 1930, he was a reporter for Denver newspaper. Pittsburgh Press sports writer (1932- May, 1936) After spring training with the Pirates in 1936, he had to return to Denver, CO to regain his health, which suffered from the cold in Pittsburgh, PA.Lorain,OH Port Republic,VA 2 337-10-3784 Chicago,NY spwr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times,Chicago American(Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Cleveland Indians exec., Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58-62),Comm.Off.('62-74);

(Gallagher, continued), helped developed baseball pension plan & free agency rules Lexington,KY 402-07-8991 NY sports writer; The Blood Horse ass. ed.& buss. man. ('35-44), American Race Horses ed.('44-46), NY Herald Tribune racing columnist & ed('46-52).NYC Old Greenwich,CT 082-03-9145 NY sp.wr.; NY Times sp.wr.('26-42) & sports columnist('42-74). Authored 8 sports books. Authored numerous articles for sports magazines & publications. Won a Pulitzer prize in '56 for "outstanding commentary on the world of sports." d. heart attack

(Daley, continued), Graduated Fordham U.('26) with B.A. In 1942, he replaced John Kieran as writer of Sports of the Times. His favorite sport was baseball with football a close second. South Bend,IN Evanston,IL 321-05-4847 Chi,Atlanta,NYC NYC NY spwr.; NY Times spwr. (1925), Providence Journal & Evening Bulletin reporter, feature writer (1927-39), NY World Telegram feature writer (1931-35), The New Yorker sports writer / columnist (1935-63)

NY464-09-5296 Chi.

West Palm Beach,Fl088-03-1165 NY sp.ed.: NY Daily News (1920-67), spwr.( '24-57), sp.ed. ('57-67). He started covering the Giants in '24, and also covered the Dodgers. d. heart attackSt. Louis

Cambridge,MA Scarsdale,NY 351-01-9717 Mass. Golf PromoterLake George,NY Brooklyn,NY; Began as NY World Telegram sports writer; grad HS('24), grad. U. of Penn. ('24-28), became Director of basketball of Madison Square Garden, brought college basketball to Madison Square Garden beginning Dec. 29, 1934.

Boston,MA 02190 029-05-5715 Bost. sp. wr.; Boston Globe sp. wr. ('23-70)Bar Harbor,ME Wash.,D.C. 577-03-2581 Washington spwr.' Washington Post spwr. (1922-74), Even though he "retired" in '74, he continued his column "This Morning", very often.

Newton,CT 114-07-2684 Washington Daily News('43-47), Chicago Herald-American sp. wr. & feature wr.('47-?), Washington Post, Baltimore News American, Danbury(CT),wire ed.Waterbury Republican('67-69), Wrote sp. books, includ. bio of Walter Johnson for juveniles. d. lung cancerJersey City,NJ Fort Lee,NJ 120-12-1791 NY spwr.; Hudson Dispatch, NY American, NY Post (1934-72); Covered baseball, football, horse racing, hockey. Occasionally wrote a column. Wrote "The Amazing Mets" in '64, "Sandy Koufax" in '66. d. At Holy Name Hosp. In Teaneck, NJ. Had lived at 3041 Edwin Ave., Fort Lee, NJ.Chicago,IL NYC 081-01-0606 NY author, book critic; Graduated from Hamilton College in 1926, and began his journalism career as a reporter on the Daily Missoulian and Sentinel in Missoula, Mont. (Herald Tribune book reviewer 1948-63)Ukraine, Russia St. Louis, MO 63141498-07-1326 St. Louis spwr.,wrestling promoter; Mov. US('11), St. Louis Star ('26-32), cov. Cardinals, etc.Worked for Tom Pax(wrestling promoter). First wrestling card: March, 1942, enlisted Army Air Force, '42, Found. Nat. Wrestling Alliance, d. internal bleeding

(Muchnick) Founded Nat. Wrestiling Alliance, 1948, served as Pres. 25 yrs., '50-60, '63-77, Prom. last wrestling card, Jan.1, 1982, Considered Dean of Wrestling promoters, Formed St. Louis Wrestling Club, 1958,Bur: Memorial Park Cemetery , St. Louis, MOLa Grange,KY 4003 352-01-9111 Chicago, Louisville spwr.; Louisville Herald-Post sp.ed., Chicago Herald-Examiner spwr., Chicago Sun sp. copy desk. Left newspaper business late '40's, GM for some race tracks, including Lincoln Fields, Ascot Park, Latonia & Miles Park.

Phil.Green Bay,WI Stamford,CT 185-09-3849 Milwaukee Sentinel('27-28),St. Louis Star sp. wr. & copy ed.('28-33), St. Louis Star-Times re-write man('33-36), Phil. Record sp. rep. & columnist(''36-45), NY Herald Tribune sp. columnist('45-67, Publishers-Hall Syndicate.('67-71), NY Times('71-82).

CA 92010 342-01-0595San Francisco,CA San Francisco,CA9 558-10-2778 San Francisco spwr.: San Francisco Bulletin, San Francisco Chronicle(1927?-1935, San Francisco Examiner (1935-1976, Jan. 15)

Cleveland,OH Cleveland,OH 284-09-1410 Cle spwr; Cleveland Press spwr('36-58), columnist('58-64), WWII Army Air Corps(Armed Forces Radio Service), Paoli,PA 716-03-5410 Phil.Birmingham, AL 352416-05-0010 Birmingham, AL spwr.; Birmingham (AL) News spwr. ('21-72), specialized in BB and golf.Gwynn Oak,MD 519-09-8107 Ass.Pr.,Balt.

Nashville,TN Nashville,TN 37205 409-09-9415 Nashville sports writer; Nashville Banner('29-87), reporter('29)(sp.ed.,'30-69)(sp.director, '69-87)(VP, '55-99). Mostly football & golf sports writer. Football Writers Ass. President('60-61), National sportscasters & sports writers Hall of Fame('88).St.Louis,MO 63103 489-09-7059 St. Louis sp. wr. newspaperman; Worked Sp. Illustrated; St. Louis Post-dispatch, St. Louis Browns PR director; Nat. Broadcasting Co. writer. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Indianapolis Star Sp Wr; Indianapolis Motor SpeedwayBost.,MA Winthrop,MA 021-05-8616 Stud. Boston U. & U. of Mass.;Boston Herald news staff('27-29, '29-47,reporter,baseball & political writer,rewrite man,ass. city ed., sp. copyreader; Boston correspondent of NY Times('47-70, sub. for regular correspondent'44-47). d. heart attack

Wash.,D.C. NYC10019 578-09-9129 Wash,NY Sp. Wr.; Wash. Post sp. wr.('30-33), Wash. Herald sp. ed.('33-36), NY American('36-), NY Daily Mirror(' International News Service('42-?), Wrote 25 books. Macon, GA Daytona Beach,FL 110-10-7132 Attend. Emory U. (Atlanta, GA), McGill U. (Canada); Intrntinl News Service (1920's), United Press Corr. (1930's), INS Daily columnist, UP Daily columnist, WWII, Army, McNaught Syndicate sp. columnist, picked up by 175 papers, (1940-?),

(McLemore, cont.) Covered Linbergh kidnapping, Won Headliner award for his coverage in New London, TX, where 294 lives were lost in school explosion. His last few yrs. he did PR for Daytona Intrntl speedway. d. died on the beach of a heart attack

Wash.,D.C. Los Angeles 90024 578-09-9128 Los Angeles Examiner spwr.; Was given much credit for bringing Dodgers to Los Angeles. As a columnist, he began his campaign in the '40's to bring a team to LA. Retired by 1956. d. heart ailmentSalem-Winston,NC 243-10-0823 Salem-Winston,NCWilliamsburg,VA 23 336-01-6388 Chi.

011-01-9406 Bost. spwr; Boston Record American spwr. & columnist('30-68), became columnist in '58, covered baseball, football and hockey.Providence,RI 021-05-8611 Bost.,ProvidenceMilton,MA 023-03-4869 Boston sportswriter; Boston Sunday Advertiser(sportswriter), Boston Daily Record, Worcester(Mass.) Telegram, Associated Press(Boston) as sportswriter('36), World War II(lieutenant/Coast Artillery). Night editor(Associated Press,Boston) d. heart attack

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KY NYC 112-10-7420 NY sp. wr.; NY Morning Telegraph turf ed. & columnistAugusta,Ga Holton,Kan. 227-01-1690 Wash.,Balt.,NY spwr.; Atlanta constitution, Richmond Times-=dispatch, NY Telgraph, Washington Post news staff ('36-?), He covered sports for the them during WWII. Washington Times-Hearald, Baltimore News-American ('54-?), retired early 70's.

Winchester,MA 023-03-6731 Bost.Corktown, MI Monroe,MI 48161 373-10-9873 Detroit spwr.; Detroit Times (1924-60), After that entered PR, and became commissioner of horse racing for the state of Michigan in 1961; Later became member of Hazel Park racing association.

Revere,MA 035-01-9083Fort Myers,FL 3390 162-16-2824 Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Pittsburgh Press(sp.wr.,'30-66, sp.ed.,'66-69,Mar.31).Covered Pittsburgh Pirates since '38.Sporting News correspondent for much of that time. Pres. BBWAA('59),WWII(captain,S.Pacific,3yrs).Helped Children's Hosp. fund-raising. d. cancerMiami, FL Louisville sp.wr.; Louisville Courier-Journal ('40-57), Miami News (1957-69). d. After a lingering illness

Wash.D.C. Gaithersberg,MD 20 578-09-9764 Wash.Brooklyn,NY Wilmette,IL 068-05-0764 NY spwr; NYU; NYU law Sch. J.D.; NY Globe, NY Evening World, NY Associated Press. NY Evening Post-Yachting,basketball wr. & night sp. ed.; Began wr. BB('33). NY Times('39-69). As ass.foreign ed.; Columbia U.jouralism prof.('50's-60's).Chicago,IL Highland Park,IL 337-07-4215 Chi. BB Digest editor & publisher for 25 yrs. Brrooklyn, NY NYC NY sp.wr.; The Gazette(Little Rock,AR) sp.ed., NY Mirror('43), Covered Yankees('44-58). Had been a professional wrestler for a brief time. Had been a talented entertainer at the NY baseball writers' annual dinner & show.

Los Angeles

NYC NYC 10024 067-05-3814 NY spwr; Grad.CCNY,NY Post spwr('27) columnist('44) left Post in '45 to freelance magazine articles.Became creative consultant to Hill & Knowlton,Inc. Ed. Sports Extra,coll. of classic newsp. stories by famous spwr.Wrote Sexually Active Man Past 40('68).Hollywood,FL 273-09-6480 Cle.

Jersey City,NJ Ridgewood,NJ 0745 060-09-3974 NY spwr., author; Attend. Fordham U., NY Telegram('30-31),NY World-Telegram('31-50), NY World Telegram & Sun(Jan.4,'50-66), NY World Journal Tribune('66-67), Ridgewood chain, left sports beat.Started as ass. man.ed., then man.ed. then exec. ed.

(King, continued) Early he was a yachting expert, covering several America cup races. Associated with NY Giants, BB & FB. Covered BB NY Giants for over 2 decades. Helped organize the NY professional FB Writers Ass. in '67. Nat. FB H of F.Bost.

Manhasset,NY 1103065-09-5822Wash. D. C.20014 468-05-2641 United Press International spwr; former spwr, and columnist for United Press, now United Press International.

Newton,MA Sun Lakes,AZ 014-22-4707 Bost.NYC 390-07-6349Palm Desert,CA 050-03-9480 Brooklyn , Los Angeles sports writer; Lynn,MA 025-05-0011 Boston spwr.; Graduated Tufts in 1933. Boston Transcript spwr. later, sp.ed.(1933-41), Boston Globe spwr. & columnist('43-73,Nov.). Authored many books. Historian, statistician, grammarian. d. heart attack

NYC 10002 088-03-0739 NYBrooklyn,NY NYC 075-14-4169 NYC Sp.wr.;NY Daily News('29-30),NY World-Telegram columnist('30-34),International News Service features('35-36),NY American('36-39),PM correspondent('41-42),Stars & Stripes('42-45),NY Post sp.wr.('45-59,72-73),NY Journal-American('59-67),Hearst('67-72)

Mineola,NY NYBost.MA Pocasset,MA 011-03-1470 Boston spwr.; grad. Boston U. B.S. (1932); Boston Post(1930-52), Boston Herald-Traveler columnist '64-68, U.S. Navy, 2.5 yrs. (became lieutenant), Authored over 50 books, incl. books on Piersall, Yaz, Cousy, F.Howard. d. cerebral hemorrhageDayton,OH Dayton,OH 45405 298-09-3063 Dayton,OH sp. wr.; Dayton Daily News sp. ed. & columnist('28-86);Also broadcaster & author.Inducted into BB Hall of Fame(Ford Frick Award,'83),First sp. wr. elected to BB H. of F. who didn't write for ML BB city. Nat. SpWR & SPCster H of F('84). d. strokeBrooklyn,NY Scarsdale,NY 092-10-5288 Brook., NY

Detroit,MI 48207 453-05-8842 Detroit Free Press sportswriter('35-60),Detroit Tigers PR director('60-79),Sp.N. correspondent; Also worked for Washington Times-Herald. d. cancerPA Sacramento,CA 270-01-0871

Hollis,NY 096-01-1696 NY Randallstown,MD 050-26-0472 NY d. cancer

Wash.,D.C. 20034 063-09-4045 Washington, NY spwr.; New York Journal-American journalist, Washington Times-Herald general reporter & sp. wr.(?-54), Washington Post reporter,sp.wr., & columnist('54-77), wrote column for Sporting News,selection comm.BB Hall of Fame.Author:Sports WriterBrookline,MA 028-07-2600 Boston spwr.; Boston Globe spwr.('26-66),started as nite copy boy. Enlisted WWII, Bronze Star, J.Piersal's & Ted William's ghost-writer, secretary-treasurer of BWAA, since 1958, only 5' 4.5, d. had been hospitalized since heart attack April 11, 1966.Little Rock,AR 7220 358-10-9136 Arkansas GazetteNewport,KY 268-05-6892 Cincinnati,OH; sp. ed. Kentucky ed of Cincinnati Enquirer. Had been associated with Enquirer for 43 yrs & had been Kentucky edition sp. ed for 30 yrs.

NYC Keene,NH 03431 126-20-6500 NY baseball author; Wrote an extremely definitive 3 part history of baseball.Manoa,PA 162-01-2842 Phil. sp. wr.; Phil. Daily News('25-56), Phil. Bulletin('59-66), d. heart attack at home

NYVirginia St. Louis sp. announcer; St. Louis KWK radio sp. announcer for St. Louis Browns baseball team. Later switched to KWK-TV & KMOX-TV. Before he arrived in St. Louis, he worked for radio stations in Shreveport,LA, Des Moines,IA, Topeka,KS.

Columbus,OH 300-01-6614 Columbus,OHDetroit, MI Columbus Citizen (1940-43, Mar.1) United Press bureau, sp. ed. Chicago office (Mar.1, 1942-46), Detroit Free Press spwr. (1947- 59, Jan.); covered Michigan sports('46-57), respected college football analyst; covered '47 &'48 national college football champions; Army induct., 11-15-43).

(Devine, continued) Sporting News correspondent Miami News sp. ed. around Nov. '59-1962, Jul.). Married: Lois Ernestine Albert in Aug., 1941.

Shaker Heights,OH 283-01-7875 Cle. spwr.: Retired by 1956.Charlotte,NC 408-14-3842 Charlotte,NC

Wash.D.C. Stuart,FL 578-09-8671 Wash.New Haven,Ct. Derry,NH 03038 097-12-6888 Sp. ed. Look,Sunrise (mag)

Rockville Centre,NY 054-09-0872 NY spwr: NY Post sp. columnist('37-73). Covered Yankees & boxing many yrs. His column was syndicated. Some books: Floyd Patterson bio. Victory Over Myself, many mag articles. d. heart ailmentChicago,IL NY spwr.; NY Herald Tribune reporter (

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Dallas,TX 455-07-2059 Southwestern regional sp. ed. for UPI for more than 20 yrs.; Joined news service in '41 after serving as sp. ed.of 2 papers in Tyler,TX. With UPI, he handled sports in 9 state area. In 1971, he transferred to general news dept. for southwest area.Somerville,MA 063-09-4046 NYMilwaukee,WI 5322 389-03-1751 sportswriter; Milwaukee Sentinel('39-75), Wisconsin NewsCleveland Hts,OH 579-03-6111 Cle.

NYC 062-01-6769 NY sp. wr.; NY Times sp. wr.('31-55)Minneapolis,MN Beverly Hills,CA 573-40-5680 NY ?-49,LA 49-88 - Sport

St. Louis,MO 490-01-1546 St. Louis spwr.; attended Washington U. in St. Louis. Associated Press for 2 yrs. St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1936-69). Covered all sports, recent yrs. FB. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOSt. Louis,MO 279-09-9569 St. L,Akr.,Tol,Salt Lake City

NYC NYC Senior Scholastic Coach Mag, Sp.Ed.('36-SA02) tel. # 212-989-2516Phil.,PA 19136 163-01-0852 Phil.

Monterey,TN Garden City,NY 115 408-09-8467 AP,Memphis,NY spwr; Nashville Evening Tennessean spwr & sp.ed.('32-43), Memphis AP news correspondent & national columnist('43-47), NY AP spwr. ('47-85,Jan.). He specialized in golf,tennis,college football, Olympics. (Grimsley, continued) He covered most major events in boxing, baseball, football, horse racing. From '77-84, wrote daily nationally syndicated sp. column, "Grimsley's Sports World". Contributed over 200 articles to magazines. Elected Spwr of Yr. 4 times.

403-01-5157 Louisville sp.wr.; Corbin Tribune(KY), Harland Enterprise(KY), Arrived in Louisville('41), head of Louisville Times sp. Dept., Louisville Courier-Journal sp. ed.('69-73), d. heart attackSherman Oaks,CA Los Angeles Examiner, Herald Examiner, Valley News, Los Angeles Daily News.

328-10-5511 A sports copy editor for the Detroit News; d. heart attack while playing tennis

Detroit,MI Chicago,IL Pitts.St. Louis,MO 63109 489-07-6896 St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Globe-Democrat (1959) Buried: Catholic Resurrection Cemetery, St. Louis, MOMadison,IL 399-05-2166 Madison,WI

Passaic,NJ NYC 10002 111-22-8593 Story of Ty Cobb,BB's Gr Pl.Quincy, MA 02170 030-22-0861 Boston Traveler;Providence,RI 037-07-6895 Providence, RI spwr.; Providence Journal-Bulletin (RI) spwr. (1946-75). Was a correspondent for Sporting News. Tonawanda,NY 528-34-9266 Tonawanda,NYJacksonville,FL 267-01-0644 Jacksonville,FL spwr.; a sports and entertainment columnist for the Jacksonville Journal (FL), d. followed an operation. Left more than $1m to churches, schools, and charities.

011-01-9351 Boston spwr.; Boston Record-American spwr. & harness racing writer. (1935-65). He joined the paper as a copy boy for his father, Sp. ed. John B. Gillooly.Cinc.,OH Syracuse,NY 240-18-6601 Cincinnati sp. wr., BB author; Reds PR writer('38-39,43-45), Gruen Watch Co(Cinc.,OH,40-42), WSAI(Cincinnati radio sta,sp. brdcaster,('48-50); KYW(Phil. radio sta. brdcaster,('51-53); Cincinnati Times-Star & Cincinnati Enquirer(45-58)

(Allen,continued), Baseball Hall of Fame historian('59-69). Brought 55 cartons of books & record files to Cooperstown,NY BB H of Fame.NYC NYC NYCedar Rapids,IA Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Attend Coe College ('40), Army ('42-46). Cedar Rapids Gazette reporter (1940-47), Pittsburgh Press (spwr. '47-61, sp. columnist, '63-69, sp.ed., '69-72, gen. col., '72--), Evansville Sunday Courier & Press sp.ed. (Ind.) (1961-63),

Indianapolis,IN 304-18-3082 Indianapolis,INNYC Roslyn Hts,NY NY, 1942-1989;Associated Press('43-66)

Floral Park,NY 1100 089-03-2288 NY spwr.; NY Sun (1935-50) covered Brooklyn Dodgers, Conducted a column where he called himself "The Old Scout". NY Rangers Publicity director (1956-65), ABC PR staff. d. North Shore Hosp., Manhasset, L.I., NY., after heart surgery.Beechville,PA Clearwater ,FL 33765 Philadelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Phillies beat writer from 1946 until 1972, retired from the Inquirer in 1979 and was a member of the Hall of Fame's Veterans Committee from 1979 until 2000. He served as chairman of Major League Baseball's Scoring

(Lewis, continued) Scoring Committee from 1960 to 1974. He briefly covered the Philadelphia Warriors of the Basketball Association of America, the fore-runner of the NBA, and chronicled that team's championship in 1946.

(Lewis, continued) In 1981, Lewis was awarded the J.G. Taylor Spink Award, which gained him admission to the writers' wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame. He graduated in 1940 from Haverford College, where he played on the football and baseball teams.(Lewis, continued) He was drafted the following year and achieved the rank of Air Force captain by the end of the Second World War. Lewis came out of retirement in 1980 to assist with the Inquirer's coverage of the Phillies' World Series triumph,(Lewis, continued) and later provided a weekly baseball trivia question for Sunday papers.

San Bruno,CA 9406 558-10-4357Canada Rancho Santa Fe,C 545-09-9732 LA,San Diego,Brockton, MA New Yorker, 1947-89; SI, 1954-60; Golf &Tennis

Phoenix,AZ 526-05-0011 Flagstaff,PhoenixCleveland,OH Cleveland spwr.; Grad. Western reserve U. BA. (1938), HS chemistry & math teacher (& ahtletic coach) in Euclid, OH, 1938-48: Cleveland News sp. reporter & columnist,'1948-60, Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist, '60-84, sp.ed., '64-84.

(Lebovitz, cont.) Sporting News, columnist, '70-92. Gannett Syndicate, '79-82. Dir. Cleve. Jewish News, '71-89;baseball umpire, '37-50, FB ofcl., '4071, basketball ofcl., '4060; Sporting News Cleve. corr., '50-64, FB ofcl., '40-71.Phone2-7-01 Great Amer. BB Scrapbook, 1961

Battle Creek,MI 366-09-4727 Battle Creek Enquirer(MI) sp.ed., Battle Creek News(MI) sp.ed. d. heart attack

Paw Creek,NC Springfield,OH Reds Tr. Sec. WW in Prof. BBNYC NYC 067-07-5793 NY spwr.; NY Daily News sportswriter, columnist, sp. ed. (1942-82), NY post spwr. and sp. ed. NY Post (1982-87).St. Louis,MO St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch staff writer, 1945-58, sp. ed. '58-85, & ass. to publisher '77-85. His columns appeared in TSN until the 1980's.

Cincinnati,OH 272-14-2541 CincinnatiRosedale,NY 132-01-9759 NY spwr.; NY Mirror spwr. & reporter, copy ed., rewrite man, Long Island Star spwr. NY Morning Telegraph copy ed. a horse racing pub.

Denton,NC Questionnaire Oct. 10, 1999,St 19 Atlanta sp. ed.; Lumberton Voice ed.('38-39),High Point Enterprise wire service & sp. ed.('39-40),Charlotte News(state ed.,'40-42, sp.ed.,46-50),Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('50-57),Atlanta Journal & Sunday Journal-Constitution('57-pres.),Sp.News columnist

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Newton, MA 02458 028-07-2748 Boston spwr.; Began with Boston Globe as copy boy in 1936, after grad. HS. Began covering sports in '40, when he reported his 1st ML game. After WWII army service, covered both ML teams. Still covered Red Sox by '62, when promoted to ass. Sp. Ed.(Holbrook, continued) Executive Assistant/Secretery to 3 AL Pres. (1965-85), consultant to league '85 to 90. Later worked briefly as public relations ass. for Red Sox. d. St. Elizabeth's Medical Center, Boston,MA

Cranston,RI 035-18-7672 Providence,RIVillanova,PA 168-03-3109 Pitts.,Phil.

Cincinnati,OH Moraga,CA 94556 268-18-5876New Orleans

Hanover,PA17331 107-05-9789 Brooklyn,NYNYC New Rochelle,NY Sport magazine editor-in-chief,1951-60Hartford,CT LA,CA 044-18-0597 Los Angeles sp.wr.; Trinity College(Hartford,CT) BA('41), Moved Hollywood('44). Los Angeles Examiner('44-48). Wrote for Time Magazine('48-61).Won National Sportswriter of the Year 4 times('64, '66, '77, '79). d. cardiac arrest

(Murray, continued), Helped found Sports Illustrated('53), Doctor of Literature('81), Pepperdine U. Doctor of Laws("87), BB's Hall of Fame Spink Award('88), Pulitzer Prize('90), Buried: Holy Cross Cemetery & Mausoleum, Culver City, CAPA St. Louis,MO 63139 178-14-9692 St. Louis sp. wr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch('47-Sept.'90), covered the Cardinals from '58-77. covered the '64, '67, '68. d. congestive heart failure

Baseball author & magazine writer of articles; Magazine X('46-47), Holiday('47-56), New Yorker fiction ed. & general contributor('56-?),

Trenton,NJ 08648 136-24-9700 TrentonClearwater ,FL 3376139-36-5218 Wash. professional wrestler

Peoria,IL 357-09-1673 Pekin Times

Chicago,ILBrooklyn,NY NY sp. wr. Long Island Press('46-77,March), NY Daily News, Covered Dodgers till they left, Covered Yankees ('58-61), Covered Mets since they started. Won Taylor Spink in '86, inductee to BB H of F. Ironton,OH Dayton,OH 45410 290-07-4476 Dayton; Sp. ed. of Dayton(OH)Journal,Herald Journal (Dayton,OH), Dayton(OH)DailyNews. Wrote:The Cincinnati Reds, a pictorial history of professional baseball's oldest team(1976), Men of the Machine(1977). & several other sports books. Spink Award('92).

Bost.,MA 023-12-0708 Boston sp. wr.; Boston Traveler sp. wr., Boston Herald American, Boston Traveler(?-'67), Boston Record American('67-088-18-6871

NYC NYC NY

NYC NY sp. wr.; book ed.,newspaper ed., High School teacher; lived in Laguna Beach,CANYC BB author: Main claim to fame< his superb book, The Glory of Their Times. He took the title from the passage in Biblical Ecclesiasticus: "All thes were honord in their generations and were the glory of their times." Grad. Indiana U. , Doctorate from

Wisconsin. Also wrote text for "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", with Mark Rucker (1988). After Ty Cob died in '66, Laurence traveled 75,000 around the country with a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and interviewed 22 ballplayers from Ty's era. He made only

about $35,000 profit from around 360,000 book sales, due to his sharing his royalties with those players he interviewed. He turned the original tapes over to the BB Hall of Fame. They are now available in excerpt form in CD or tape cassette format.Professor of Finace and Economics at NYC for 30 yrs. "I don't like the players, I don't like the umpires, I don't like the owners, but I love the game." Interested in BB since 1931. d. at his Manhattan apt., after a series of strokes. Bronxville Review-Press ad. manager('48-49), Westchester Herald ad. manager('49), Collier's Encyclopedia ass. ed.('50-54), Sports Illustrated-staff writer('54-55), ass.ed.('550?), senior ed.(?-'85); authored 8 baseball books, numerous BB & sports articles

Millertown,NY 12546 New York sports writer; NY Journal-AmericanBeaumont,TX WW inPBB73Boston,MA San Diego,CA 9210 017-16-2573 Bost,NY,D.C.,

Alton,IL 312-12-5403 Alton,IL sp. wr.; Alton Telegraph(TN) sp. wr., Sporting News(St. Louis), Had also worked for papers in South Dakota, Illinois and Indiana. d. lung cancerPoway,CA 92064 448-10-4540 San Diego Sp. Ed. & columnist d. cancerSacramento,CA 958 329-16-8674 Cinc. sp. wr.; Cincinnati Times-Star ('51-58), Cincinnati Post ('58-84), Spink Award (Baseball Hall of Fame, '86).

Finleyson,GA Atlanta spwr.; Atlanta Constitution spwr. ('47-57) sp.ed('57-?)Rochester,NY 074-18-0441 Roch,Bost,PhiB. Woodlawn Nat. Cem.,NY

Moscow,Russia San Francisco,CA Born Moscow, moved US 1928, NY Herald sp. wr.('48-54), NY Post sp.wr.('54-63), NY Times sp.wr.('63-73), NY Times correspondent in Palo Alto,CA('73-78), Peninsula Times-Tribune sp. ed.(Palo Alto,CA, '79-93). Spink Award (BB, Hall of Fame, '93)(Koppett, continued) Leonard was vastly interested in history, opera, classical music, Marx Bros. movies. He thought expansion was a disaster for baseball. He was also vastly interested in a statistical analysis approach to baseball.

Las Vegas,NV Chicago,IL 60655 525-32-8628 Chicago sp.wr.author; Las Vegas Daily Optic, South Bend Tribune, Chicago Tribune('44-82); In 1955 he took over the "Wake of the News" column from Arch Ward & held it until he retired('82).Specialized in football. Amityville,NY 122-24-4955 Long Island

Chicago,IL Chicago New World Weekly, sp. columnist,('47-48), Columbian Weekly general columnist('48-56), Chicago Daily News beat writer, covered & traveled with both the Cubs & White Sox('57-65), Baseball Digest ass. ed.('69-present). Authored Heartbreakers('01),NYC Nissequogue, NY NY sports writer; Raised in Hudson Falls in Adirondacks, NY, and Upper Darby, PA. Left NYU in jr. yr. to enlist in Army Air Forces. Became pilot / flight instructor. Returned college, 1945 Received bachelor's degree economics, 1946, and yr. later earned master's degree from Graduate Sch. Journalism at Columbia University.

reporter Newark Evening News, 1947. Months later, moved radio station WINS ( New York) as news and sp. Writer. Soon became director news and special events. In 1950 became copy ed. on nat. news desk of NY Times. Assistant to nat. news ed., head of the city copy desk and ass. city ed. Became a sportswriter in 1964. NY Times spwr. '64-2001. Voted Taylor Spink Award in 1995, (BB H of F). D. University Hospital in Stony Brook, N.Y of cancer. His Books: My Luke & I (1976), bio of Gehrig with his wife Eleanor. Casey & Mr. McGraw (1989). The Days of Mr. McGraw (1969). Others on Mets, Mantle, Ford, DiMaggio, World Series, Tug McGraw. He liked writing about NY stuff.

Tacoma,WA Tacoma, WA 98444 536-20-0441 Tacoma, NY spwr.: Tacoma Nes Tribune, Tacoma Times, Oregonian (Portland), Spokane Daily Chronicle, all before 1948. NYC Newspaper Enterprise Ass., Ass. Sp. Ed. (1950-54); Wrote 2 books on Ty Cobb. One of them was The Tiger Wore Spikes (juvenile)1956, Ty Cobb, 1975.

(McCallum, continued) Attended Washington State U. '42-43, '45-47, & NYU, 1943, A.S. Barnes & Co., Inc., NYC, Dir. Of Premium Bk. Div., 1954-58; lecturer for Antrim Bureau., Phil., PA & Nat. Sch. Assemblies, LA, CA, 1963-71, full-time writer, 1971-. Member of sports committee. US Army, 1943-45. Seattle,WA Wilmington,DE ('52),mechanical engineer; Phone Sept 14, 1999

Kansas City,KS 513-16-6161 Kansas City,KS sp. ed.; Lawrence Journal-World sp. ed.; PR director for Kansas City Royals in 1968. Assistant news ed. of Pittsburg Morning Sun (Kansas). New Orleans,LA 423-28-6731 Birmingham

Atlanta,GA Valdosta,GA 254-18-1269 Valdosta,GA spwr; Macon(GA) Telegraph, Thomasville (GA) Times-Enterprise, Valdosta Daily Times sp. ed.

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Chattahoochee,GA Who's who in Prof. BB '73Buffalo,NY 115-16-5220 Un.Pr.,BuffaloSan Diego,CA 9210 449-28-8275 LA, San Diego d. cancer

Chicago, IL Chi.

Tulsa,OK Kansas City sp.wr.;Attended Marquette University;Tulsa World, Kansas City Star('48-92).Covered the Kansas City Blues baseball team in the AA league from '51, When the Phil. Athletics moved from Phil. to Kansas City,MO in '55, started covering them until(McGuff, continued), they left in '68. He became sp.ed in '66 and vice-president & editor from '86 until he retired in '92. He was former President of the BWAA and was voted outstanding Missouri sp.wr. 6 times, member of Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

NY 121-18-2721Stevensville,MD 21 219-18-5772 Baltimore sports writer; Baltimore News-Post reporter(1945,sp.ed., - 1956), Baltimore News-American,Baltimore Evening Sun('80's), Baltimore Sun('95-2000,Dec.3). wrote 7 books, d. cancerNYC 119-16-2915 Ass. Sp. Ed.Intn. Nws.Serv.Venice,FL 34292 276207297 Cleveland Plain Dealer('53-86), 1st Pres. of Track & Field Writers of Amer.

NYC Detroit, MI NY & Detroit spwr; AP copyboy, NYC ('45-51), NY spwr.('51-53), AP sp. ed., Det.,('53-56), Detroit Times spwr.('56-60), Detroit Free Press spwr.('60-65) sp.ed. & columnist('66-78), Detroit News sp.ed. & columnist (1978-2004, death); Sporting News correspondent('65-85). Won Spink Award in 2002. (Falls, continued) Mr. Falls covered 50 World Series, 20 Kentucky Derbys, 15 Super Bowls, 20 Masters and United States Open golf tournaments, 25 Indianapolis 500's, and assorted events such as Rose Bowls, Stanley Cup finals, and NBA finals.

Weatherford,TX 760 525-50-5246 Ass.Pr. Golf WriterSp. wr.; Tulas World(before & after WWII), Fort Worth Star-Telegram,Daily Oklahoman(OK. City), San Diego Union('50-80), also free-lanced for New York Times Magazine, New Yorker, Newsweek, and others. d. 3 month fight against cancer.

Pitts.,PA 114-28-5871 Pitts.

Big Spring,TX 449-50-2440 Odessa,TX sp. ed.;Phone June 1999

Jersey City,NJ NY

Lincoln,NE 506-50-4630 Lincoln,NEDayton sp.wr.; Grad. Kent State U. Sch. of Journalism. BBWAA Pres.('97), Cinc. BBWAA chapter chair 22 times, instrumental in Pete Rose investigation , Dayton Daily News spwr., covered Reds from 1970 on. (McCoy, cont.) Wrote gutsy, courageous stories on Cincy owner, Marge Schott, got himself exiled from her media room 4 times. Didn't deter his typewriter. Kept writing them straight. Won Taylor Spink Award in 2002, Baseball's Sportswriters Hall of Fame.

Duluth,MN

Sp. ILL.sp.wr.Kwanee,IL Logan,UT Logan,UT sports editor; of the Logan(Utah) Herald; died of a rare disease that attacks the motor nerve centers; Wrote columns by secretary typing his dictation, due to loss of use of his arms & legs.

Boston,MA 025-38-2763 Lowell Sun(MA) sp. wr.; covered Bruins & Red Sox. d. following open heart surgery.Boston,MA Boston spwr.; Boston Globe columnist(1969-86), Sports Illustrated sr. writer(1982-90), ML baseball studio analyst, ESPN, 1988- , columnist, 1990Wash.D.C. Washington,DC sp.wr.; graduated St. Stephen's School in Alexandria,VA. Bachelor's degree(Amherst College,'69); Washington Post sp. wr.('69-present).

Sports Illustrated sportswriter; Sportswriter of the Year 6 times; Contributing editor to Newsweek, Contributor to HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Rochester,NY NYC horse racing announcerWash.D.C. NYCSan Francisco,CA Southfield,MI Voice of Detroit Tigers('33-51); Detroit Tigers OF('14-29),Reds OF('30,32)Ty Cobb made him hitter;Just average 1st 7 seasons.Cobb tutored him,reworked his stance & Heilmann became terror. He remained Cobb's friend. d. lung cancer.Ireland Rushin,FL 33570 350-16-2608 Chicago sports announcer; 1st tried announcing at a track meet in Dallas in 20's, later he announced the All-Star football game in Chicago, the Golden Gloves national finals and most major boxing matches in Chicago.

Boston,MA 010-03-4390 Boston sportscaster; Red Sox Public address announcer, also for professional hockey and basketball games in the Boston Garden.Hot Springs, AR Voice of Senators('34-56);Began Senators class A, Chattanooga Lookouts,Cal Griffith brought him to Washington('34),Called action on WJSV,WTOP, Redskins. Dubbed DiMaggio Yankee Clipper.Called for Yankees('39).Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame -'99).

(McDonald, continued) Won Sporting News Best Broadcaster of year 3 times ('32, '42, '45), Bronx,NY Pasadena,CA 093-10-7903 sportscaster

Voice of White Sox,Cubs; White Sox('28-41, 46-70), Chicago Cubs('28-41), Oakland Athletics('71). Ford Frick Award('79, Hall of Fame). did 1st on-field interview(Connie Mack,1931). Called 12 WS, 9 All-Star games. Voted twice by Sp. News Announcer of Yr.Buenos Aires,ArgentCroton-on-Hudson, 091-05-0930 Spanish Voice of Yankees (?-72); Began as writer with Staten Island Advance (NY), AP, 7 yrs.,Havas (French wire service), Agency France-Press (French News Service), NBC Gillette Cavalcade of Sports Spanish announcer ('37-70), 42 WS. Ford Frick Award (H of F, 1985).Rochester,NY NYC 062-03-5200 Sp. announcer

Columbus,MS Tallahassee,FL Voice of Reds('34-38),Dodgers('39-53),Yankees('54-66); His gentle southern tones & down-home style endeared him to generations of American sports fans. Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'78). d. pneumonia & kidney ailmentsAlexandria,VA Tucson,AZ 85715 168-01-7048 Voice of Cleveland Indians('47-67),Seattle Pilots('69); U. of Virginia(chemistry),WWII(Army Air Corps pilot), Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Browns(50's), Baltimore Colts, Ohio St. FB games. d. Alzheimer's disease, last 2 yrs. in special care home, strokeKY Voice of Washington Senators, Yankees, Giants; Washington Senators announcer('38-45), New York Yankees announcer('46-48), New York Giants('49-57, SF, '58-70). Ford Frick Award('80, Hall of Fame). U. Kentucky law degree.Birmingham,AL Greenwich,CT 0683 119-09-2899 Voice of Yanks('38-64); Began broadcasting as undergraduate at U. of Alabama, called many WS, Long time voice of This Week in Baseball, Highly articulate, extremely knowledgeable, Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'78). El Cemetery, Stanford, CT

St. Louis,IL 279-09-9569 Voice of Cards('48); Attended Akron U., broadcast sports in Akron, Toledo, Salt Lake City. In Toledo, did the Mud Hens', in St. Louis did St. Louis Cardinals. Had been a basketball & FB official & fight referee. In '52, refereed bouts at Helsinki Oly.St. Louis,MO Chicago,IL 60611 488-09-7179 Voice of Cards('44-69),White Sox('70-81),Cubs('81-97) Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'89) d. heart attack

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Fort Worth,TX Devon,PA Sportscaster; Grad.Texas Christian U.;Announced Phil. A's games('38-54)&Phillies games('39-49,55-75).Ford Frick Award('90),Broadcaster Pioneers of Phil.'s Hall of Fame('93). Also called college & pro football,college & pro basketball, hockey. d. strokeLa Habra, CA 413-01-3692 Baseball announcer; Cubs (1949, teamed with Rogers Hornsby), Phillies (1950-51, teamed with Gene Kelly), Senators, Announced LA Lakers , LA Angels, LA Rams, Southern Cal FB & basketball, UCLA basketball, Detroit Lions, NFL Pro Bowls.Weston,CT 06883 370-03-7238 Sportscaster

Peoria,IL Chicago,IL 60657 348-01-5406 Chicago Sportscaster;Cubs('40-44,48,50-81),Bears,White Sox('45,48-67), NY Giants('46),NBC('50-54,59),MUT('52),Bulls; Ford Frick Award(BB Hall of Fame,'83) d. heart failure

Voice of Pirates; Began with Rosy Rowswell on Pittsburgh radio in '48.TX South Bend,IN 463-05-9186 Detroit broadcaster: Detroit Lions & Detroit TigersAurora,IL Encino,CA Voice of the Los Angeles Lakers(Dec.16,'61-Jun.,12,02; set a record similar to Lou Gehrig & Cal Ripken in announcing 3,317 consecutive basketball games for the Los Angeles Lakers(Nov.21,'65 - Jun. 12, '02), d. from head injuries from a fall at his home.

(Hearn, continued), Earned awards galore; '91 Basketball Hall of Fame, lifetime achievement Victor Award, 3 Golden Mikes, 2 Nat. Sportscaster of the Year, 7 Cal. Sportscaster of the Year, 1st ever Cable Ace, '91 Cedars-Sinai Journalist of Year,(Hearn, continued),Earned '65 Emmy for Excellence in Basketball coverage & Academy of Television Arts & Sciences 50th Anniversary Award;Also broadcast NCAA & NFL football, UNLV basketball, PGA golf,1st Ali-Frazier,Rose Bowl,Pro tennis, Attend. Bradley U.

Bronx,NY NYC good college FB player, made '36 US Olympic team, d. complications from heart surgery at Lennox Hill Hosp.,NYCBrooklyn, NY Voice of the Yankees; 1957-96

Sportscaster; ML BB announcer from 1947, Worked for NY Giants, Baltimore Orioles, Voice of Detroit Tigers('60-02). Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'81).

Winston-Salem,NC NYC 084-01-5729 Jewish American sports broadcaster d. heart embolismCampbellsville,TN Knoxville,TX 414-05-9328 Voice of Mets('61-78); NY Giants announcer('79-81), Grad. U. of Tennesse(journalism), Columbia,TN reporter, WWII(9th infantry div.), Notre Dame FB(13 yrs.), 25 Cotton Bowls, NFL(20 yrs.),Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'88),Nat. Sp.Wr & Sp. Ann. H. of F.,'79).

(Nelson, continued), He also broadcast Tennessee and SEC FB games for many yrs. He died from Parkinson's disease and pneumonia. There's always been confusion over exactly where he was born & died.

Minneapolis,MN 55 176-03-1546 Brdcstr,Voice of Gr.By. Packers 1956-67Green River,WY Voice of Red Sox; Began in '44 Cheyenne,Wyoming doing minor league baseball(Koma, OK).Big break came '49 w/ Mel Allen / Yankees.Red Sox announcer('50-66). NBC Game of the week('66-76). 13 WS, 16 all-star games, 1976 Montreal Olympics, Super Bowls.

Baltimore,MD 015-12-2479 Boston, Wash, Balt, sportscaster; d. several weeks after open heart surgery. Broadcast many sports, incl. BB, FB & Basketball. Member of Red Sox Broadcasting team until spring of '72. Had been play-by-play man for Senators, Colts & Balt. Bullets.Sedona,AZ 86336 291-16-5003 Cleveland, Ind. radio & TV brdcster 1961-76

Paris,TX Lake Dallas,TX 752 576-24-1571Palmer,PA Voice of Orioles; Family moved to east section of Reading('27), Began Reading,PA('39), Phillies,Athletics announcer('47-48), Baltimore Orioles Intern' league announcer('49), Baltimore Orioles' announcer('54-56, 62-87,91-occasional), Senators('57-61);

(Thompson, continued), Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame, '93). Voice of Baltimore ColtsPhil.,PA

Santa Rita, NM Voice of White Sox, Mets; 1961-03Richmond,VA Voice of Minnesota Twins('62-2003); Richmond,VA(WMBG), WSYR(Syracuse), Springfield(MA) Cubs, Phillies & Athletics('54), Baltimore Orioles('57-61), Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame - '96). BASE-1994-95.

Voice of the Giants, 1958-73, 76-78, 96-00; Voice of the Oakland Athletics, 1981-95, NBC 1962; Received the Ford Frick Award in 2004, as lifetime achievement award for sportscasters. BB Hall of Fame.Clarksville,VA 2392 168-24-5352 Voice of Red Sox;Duke U.;WW2(marines);Began calling minor league BB in W.Vir.('56), Boston Patriots('65), Began calling Red Sox games('61) with Curt Gowdy & stayed until his '92 retirement. Called '75 WS d. heart attack at Raleigh,NC airport

Holyoke,MA Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'87); Started calling Cardinals' games on radio in 1954, first teaming with Harry Carey till '70, and from 72-00 with former Cardinal's 3rd basemen, Mike Shannon. Called Super Bowls('70,78-84), World Series, pro bowling, etc.San Jose, CA Voice of the San Diego Padres, 1972-79, 81-03Oklahoma West Palm Beach, FL Voice of Mets('62-03, radio & TV, 1982- radio); Muskogee Reds(OK), Boston Red Sox announcer('54-59), Baltimore Orioles announcer('60-61), Ford Frick Award('94, Hall of Fame), Had distinctive mid-western baritone voice. D. Hospice in W. Palm Beach, FL, lung cancer.St. Louis,MO Voice of Cardinals; St. Louis Cardinals announcer('55-64), Yankees announcer('65-67), California Angels announcer('90), presently announces for Arizona Diamondbacks. Ford Frick Award(BB H of F, '91), NBC(WS,all-star games,Game of Week,Today Show,'62-73).

Towson,MD 21204 108-18-2777 Voice of Baltimore Orioles('66-82); 32 yr. veteran of sports broadcasting. d. cancer at John Hopkins Hosp.Cuba San Juan,Puerto Rico Radio Voice of Florida Marlins('93-present); Radio Salas,Havana,Cuba('45), Pro Voice of BB in Puerto Rico & Venezuela for over 30 yrs. Did over 40 Caribbean World Series since '49. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame,2001). Left Cuba('62) because of Castro.

(Ramirez, cont.),For 3 decades,Rafael shared the mike with Buck Canal on Gillette Cavalcade of Sports('50-80's),broadcast over largest network of Hispanic radio stations ever assembled. Has done dozens of WS & all-star games to throughout Latin America.Fairfield,IA Voice of Astros, Braves; Grad. U. of Iowa(radio speech), Well-traveled ML announcer.Had announced for: St. Louis Browns('53), Cardinals('54), Cubs('56-57, 80-84), White Sox('62-65), Braves('66-75), Pirates('76-79), Astros('85-03).Smooth,knowlegableBronx,NYC Voice of Dodgers('50-03); Grad. Fordham U.('49), Ford Frick Award(H of F,'82), joined the Dodgers in '50 & worked with Red Barber as a team from '50-53, who served as a role model & mentor.Hamilton, OH Voice of the Reds, 1967-03

SportscasterLake City,FL

Houston,TX 453-48-6145 FB telecaster; Grad. Louisiana State U., Worked for stations in Louisiana, San Francisco-Oakland. Returned Texas('60). Had done minor league BB games & Houston Oiler games. Sp. Dir. of KPRC-TV in Houston,did NFL games since '68. Worked on 2 Super Bowls. NYC 10024 114-28-0017 Sportscaster, journalist; d. surgical complications

Mt. Clemens,MIMilwaukee, WI Voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, 1971-03Cayambe,Ecuador Spanish Voice of Dodgers('59-03);Attended U. of Quito,Ecuador(Engineering,Jouralism,letters,philosophy,broadcasting), Moved Cal.('55),Sports director(KWKW), Before the station sent him on road,he re-broadcast games to Latino audiences by re-creating games

(Jarrin, continued), being called live by Vin Scully. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame,'98).Golden Mike Award("70). Was in terrible auto accident in '90, almost lost his life.Chicago,IL Voice of Phillies('71-97; Grad. U. of Iowa('59)(Bachelor Arts-Speech, Radio, TV), Army('59-61), sp. dir.(KGU-'61-64),Astro's announcer(65-70),Also called Big 5 basketball & Notre Dame football. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame, '02).

(Kalas, continued), also announced Notre Dame football, 3 Emmies for NFL films, covered 7 playoff series, 3 World Series, covered Phillies for 27 yrs. with his partner Richie Ashburn.Mt. Vernon,NYSt. Louis, MO Voice of the Cardinals, 1972-03Montreal, Canada Voice of the Montreal Expos, 1972-03

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Voice of Cincinnati Reds('74-03); U. of N.Carolina('65), High Point,N.Carolina, Salisbury,N.Carolina, Norfolk,VA, Virginia Squires(Amer. Basketball Ass.-'70), Tidewater Mets(AAA - '71), numerous WS on radio(NBC)Voice of the Kansas City Royals 1969-03Voice of Orioles,Giants; A's('74),Rangers('78-79),Red Sox('80-82),Orioles('81-96), Giants('97-pres.), ESPN's Sunday Night BB announc.('90-pres.). Authored:Confessions of a Baseball Purist(2000). Ultra-smooth imperturbable tone, but way too much a homer. (Miller, cont.),Jon might be most professional announcer ever to work a baseball mike. Never loses control. Never got lost in anecdotes & neglected ball-strike count. Silky-smooth, informed, detailed delivery. A must for Ford Frick Award. Why not now?

NYC Voice of Senators);Grad. Duke; radio('39), moved TV('46), Washington Senators('47-60),MUT('50), Minnesota Twins('61), NBC('62-64,G.of Week), ABC('65), MUT('56), NBC('58,61-62). Has done most sports,D.Larsen's Perf.g('56);Ford Frick Award('95,H of F).(Wolff, continued), had nightly TV, radio sports show, syndicated his baseball interview shows to other big-league cities, wrote a syndicated baseball column, led the Knothole Gang. WS('56, 58,61).Moved NYC('66),Madison Square Garden('54-89).

Announcer for the Toronto Blue Jays, from 1977-present(04).

Baseball announcer for Chicago from 1931-32, 1935, 1937, and Cleveland for 1949.

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Clintonville,NY St.Charles,MO Giants Owner 1903-12: Originally owned Cincinnati BB franchise & was a stock holder of the New York Giants BB franchise. He also owned Indianapolis of the minor American League.Hille,Prussia St. Louis,MO St. Louis Cardinals owner(1892-97); made fortune in beer brewing, had famous St. Louis saloon, Also managed St. Louis Nationals in 1892,95-97. d. cirrosis of liver, buried in Bellefontaine Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOCincinnati,OH Cincinnati,OH Pres. Cincinnati Reds('02-27)Chicago,IL Eagle River,WI Vilest & most hated owner of BB team ever,White Sox('01-31).Caused 1919 "Black Sox" crises. Paid his players a third of what other vile cheap owners paid comparable players.He,Landis, Ban Johnson pollute BB's Hall of Fame,MUST be booted out !

(Comiskey,continued),THE most despicable & viscous abuser of BB's heinous"reserve clause", he paid Joe Jackson $6,000/yr. from '15-19, when Cobb,Collins,Speaker were drawing $15,000-20,000/yr.All his players were similarly abused by this horrific villain.(Comiskey,continued), In 1919 Comiskey promised his star pitcher, Eddie Cicotte a $10,000. bonus if he won 30 games, and after Cicotte had won 29 games, Comiskey ordered manager Kid Gleason to bench him 2 weeks before season ended. Cicotte then agreed(Comiskey,contiuned), to throw his Series games after local gamblers paid him $10,000. upfront. Clean Sox: Joe Jackson, Collins, Schalk, Buck Weaver, Kerr. Jackson, Weaver played their hearts out, railroaded by Landis & Comiskey. BB owns them debt!!!

Greenwich Village, Brooklyn,NY Dodgers owner(1898-1925);Bought small amount of stock((1890), Secretary ball club(1896), elected Pres. ball club even though minor stockholder(1898), Originally owned 10% of Baltimore BB franchise d. suffered heart dis. several yrs. d. at Waldorf-Astoria(Ebbets, continued) Buried at Greenwood Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY

York, PA owned the Philadelphia Phillies and the Washington Senators for a brief period. Partner in The Wagner Brothers, which earned their fortune in the ship outfitting business.Philadelphia,PA Phoenix,AZ Cubs owner('21-32); minority stockholder in Cubs('16).By '21, sole owner. Made his fortune selling his Wrigley gum. Turned over gum business to son Phillip in'23, who also inherit. Cubs upon his Dad's death in '32. d. heart ailment,buried Catalina Is.E. Brookfield,MA Germantown,Phil.,PA

Marshalltown,IA Pasadena,CA Cleveland Indians owner('22-28); widow of James C. (Jack) Dunn,who owned the Indians from 1916 to his death in '22. She never served as club Pres. She retained Ernest S. Barnard.Youngsville,OH Youngsville,OH ML outfielder(1889-98); AL man.('01-11),Red Sox Pres.('13)Keokuk,IA St. Louis,MO St. Louis Browns owner(Jan.,1917-32). Buried Bellefontaine cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Freiburg,Baden,Ger Pittsburgh,PA Pirates Owner('00-32); Born Germany, Arrived US(1881), prior to buying Pirates in 1900, He owned the Louisville Colonels in NL 1899. d. died while in NYC, buried in West View Cemetery, Pittsburgh,PAnr. Quebec,Canada Brooklyn,NY Red Sox owner('13-'16,Nov.); Real estate tycoon; owner of Hotel Granada,Lafayette St. & Rockaway Place,Brooklyn,NY & Garden City Hotel,Garden City,LI,NY. d. suicide, jumped from 9th floor of his Granada Hotel in Brooklyn. Squeezed through 15" window.

(Lannin, continued) 9th of 10 kids, left Quebec area, due to economics, in 1880's, started as bellhop Adams Hotel, then doorman, then management. Invested in coffee futures/real estate, loved BB/ checkers. June 26, 2004, Canadian BB Hall of Fame induction.Atlantic City, NJ Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis

(Farrell, continued) Mr. Farrell had also owned racing enterprises, and racing horses, gambling houses, and asorted other business interests.NYC Manhattan,NY Yankee owner('15-39); Used mortgage on Fenway Pk to coerce Frazee to "give" his stars away & launch 1st NY dynasty using re-cycled Sox stars, incl.E.Scott,J.Dugan,B.Ruth,H.Pennock,C.Mays,J.Bush,S.Jones,W.Schang,W.Hoyt,E.Shore,D.Lewis,S.O'Neil, Ed Barrow.

Ruppert was best owner in BB. Proves good people make terrible mistakes."Rape of Red Sox" is worst scandal in BB, after racism & the reserve clause. Where was Landis?Rejecting pleas from Buck Weaver. d. phlebitis, buried Kensico Cemetery, Westchester, CT.(Ruppert,continued),Died at his 5th Ave. apt. in Manhattan,NY. Was a devout Roman Catholic, confirmed bachelor. At his death, his worth was estimated at between $40-50m, & he gave a third of it to his former actress friend Helen Winthrope Weyant.

Buffalo,NY Brunswick,GA Co-Owner NY Yankees;w/Ruppert,bought team for $480,000. fr. Frank Farrell & William S. Devery in '15;Was VP. A civil engineer,contractor & agriculturist,he supervised much of construction of Yankee Stad, which cost about $3m.Sold his interest to(Huston)Ruppert(June,'23) for $1,250,000. Often at odds with Ban Johnson.Got 7 injunctions against him preventing Johnson from suspending Carl Mays. In '37, offered $1.7m for Dodgers, as head of syndicate. Intended to install night lights. Offer refused.(Huston, continued) He is buried at Frederica's Christ Episcopal church Cemetery, St. Simon Island, GA

Hickman Mills, MO St. Louis,MO St. Louis Browns owner & Pres.('03-15), His capital brought the franchise from Milwaukee to St. Louis. Bought club for $35K., sold it to Phil Dec. Ball for $424K. At his park, he insisted on decency, cleanliness, and courtesy to the public. (Hedges, cont.) He kept his grandstand meticulously clean, didn't allow rowdies, the saloon bar was eliminated from the park. Built modern grandstand. d. Carcinoma of left lung, at Barnes Hosp, St. Louis, MO, buried in Cincinnati, OH on Apr. 25, 1932

NYC NYC Boston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,1912--1916,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Lawrence,KS Brunswick,GA Mrs. Huston married the Colonel on Feb. 27,1890 at Hancock County,OH. They both are buried at Frederica Cemetery, St. Simons Island,GA. The Colonel died at Butler Island Plantation,McIntosh county,Brunswick,GA. Children:Bernice,Frances,Arthur.Newark,OH Fort Cimton,OH Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston & Philadelphia teams. Built wealth as a coal dealer. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans clubClear Creek,MO Wash.,DC Washington Senators owner('20-55); ML pitcher(1891-1914), Senators manager('01-20), Columbus,OH Providence,RI

PA Germantown,PA Philadelphia A's ownerAdrian,MI Detroit,MI Detroit Tigers owner('08-35); Became half-owner('07), Started as a bookkeeper/cashier in detroit state insurance agency. Later, entered law office of his brother, Thomas J. Navain, and took law classes. Admitted to Mich. state bar. In '03, asked to

(Navin, continued) help run Detroit club for owner, S. F. Angus. He purchased $5,000. worth of stock in club, when Bill Yawkey bought team. Navin became half-owner in '07, and full owner in '08. Ty Cobb, Detroit's great star, made Navin & club wealthy.Louisville,KY Pittsburgh,PA Inherited Pirates from husband,Barney Dreyfuss,upon his death, Feb. 5,1932, and sold team to group(Aug.8,'46) headed by Frank McKinney of Indianapolis includ. Bing Crosby, who was made VP, for an estimated $2.75 million. m. Dreyfuss(Oct.16,1894).Richmond,IN Chicago,IL Cubs owner('16-19);Chicago chain restauranter,own. Chicago Whales,Federal League BB team('14-15), built Wrigley Field for them.When Fed L. folded,bought Cubs from Charles M. Murphy.Wrigley, Jr. got controlling interest('19) d. stroke,Drake Hotel,ChicagoSomerville,MA Boston,MA Red Sox owner (late 1903-1911); Started in the editorial & advertising dept. of the Boston Globe, of which his father was a founder. After he sold his stock, he retired to the VP position

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Indiana? Augusta,GA Detroit Tigers owner(03-07); lumber & mining interests made him wealthy; bought half-interest in Detroit BB franchise from Angus for $35,000 in '03. On Jan.22,'04, bought Angus' other half for $25,000., becoming sole owner. Made Ed Barrow his manager.(Yawkey, continued) d. of influenza, while on an automobile trip. His nephew, Thomas Austin Yawkey inherited half of his uncle's estate, estimated at $40 M.

Jersey City,NJ NYC Giants owner('19-36); d. at Hot Springs,Arkansas of Bright's diseaseNYC St. Louis,MO St. Louis Cardinals owner('20-47,Nov.) d. cancer

Ypsilanti,MI Miami Beach,FL Detroit Tigers owner('35-52), bought 25% of Tigers('20), bought another 25%('27), bought rest of team, when Frank Navin died('35). Made his fortune in Detroit's auto industry. Took no money out of his team, ploughing all profits back, plus own money.Boonvelle,IN Chicago,IL Louisville sp wr, Chicago President( 1918-33) d. influenzaNYC Boston,MA Boston Braves owner('23,Feb.-36); Pres.('27-35), Managed his own team in 1929. Lost over $1m during his tenure. d. after 10 week illness

(Fuchs, continued), Formerly a wealthy NYC attorney, he paid $550,000. for his team, and was $300,000. in debt when he sold the team. Although not required to legally, he later paid off the debts. Had been a NYC magistrate('15-18). Grad. NYU law school.Peoria,IL NYC Red Sox owner(Nov.,'16-23,Aug.1);Bought team fr. Joseph J. Lannin, sold to synd. put headed by Bob Quinn, who was financially backed by Palmer Winslow, glass tycoon from Indiana, who suddenly died. d. Bright's disease, Kensice Cemetery, Valhalla,NY Dubuque,IA Eagle River,WI White Sox owner('31-39),got team when father died('31),rebuilt team to respectability.Appointed VP & treasurer('10),2 yrs. later contracted scarlet fever, ill rest of life.Weighed 380 lbs.,started farm system, install. nt. Lts. d. heart disease,pneumoniaCincinnati,OH Cincinnati,OH Reds owner(June,'36-61); Pres.('34-46); industriaist,manufacturer of radio sets & appliances, former auto maker, head of Crosley Broadcasting corp., developer of radio station SLS, d. heart attackHopkins,MO Chicago,IL White Sox part-owner; had been associated with Bill Veeck in his operation of the Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns & White Sox. Had made his money as Pres. of A.C. Allyn & Co., Chicago investment concern. d. Presbyterian-St. Luke's Hosp.

Cass City ,MI Miami,FL Reds GM('35-36),Dodgers('38-42),Yankee owner('45-47). Elkland township Cemetery, Cass City, MIChicago,IL Chicago,IL White Sox owner(March 4,'41-56,death); Married John Louis Comiskey('13) when she was only 20 yrs old, son of Charles A. Comiskey, founder of the White Sox, and the only woman to head a team in the history of the AL. m. Paul John Plato d. heart attackChicago,IL St. Louis,MO 498-03-4875 St. Louis Browns owner('36-45);Friday,Aug.10,'45,Richard Muckerman buys out Barnes interests in Browns,giving him 50%. Barnes began finance co. at Springfield,Il('17),10 yrs. later present co. was incor.,moved St. Louis,IL d..complications after operation

Elkhorn,WI Elkhorn,WI 336-07-7974 Chicago Cubs owner('32-77);Inherited Wrigley gum business('23) & Cubs team('32) from father;refused to install lights at his ballpark,only park without night gamesAvoided limelight. .Incredibly honest,generous. Loved baseball with all his heart. Wawaka,IN Bronxville,NY 10708056-10-2047 NY21-31,Adm.31-65, NL Pres.('34-51), BB Commissioner('51-65)Tiskilwa,IL Cincinnati,OH45226 268-03-7168 Reds owner('46-51), GM ('37-46), NL Pres.('51-69)Derby,OH Columbus,OH 4321 291-05-8017 Pirates Owner('46-85,Pres.,'51-69);part of 4man syndicate('46)purchasing team.In '51 bought 70% of club,hired Branch Rickey.Lost around $2m but never lost faith & heart.Helped formulate '57 player's pension.Sold majority interest('85) in Pirates.St. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO 63123 492-05-0555 St.Louis Cardinals Owner, Came from a line of successful St. Louis beer brewers; Beer is the source of the family wealth; Cardinals Pres.('53-89). Buried at Bellefontaine Cemetery, St. Louis, MOFresno,CA Rochester,NY 526-34-4864 Yankees co-owner w/Daniel Topping('54-66), Both also functioned as co-Presidents. d. complications following surgery for lung cancer, cremated, ashes scattered over ArizonaBrooklyn, NY Brooklyn, NY Brooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness

(Woods, continued) Jimmy Woods also served as publicity man for fight promoters Andy Neiderreiter, and Humberto (Jack) Fugazy. He served in the Navy during WWI.

suburb,Chicago,IL La Jolla,CA 92037 338-05-0912 San Diego Padres' owner('74-83), Pres.('77-80). Bought the Padres in '74 for $10 million. Gave up operating control of Padres in Aug.,'79. Had made his fortune as founder of McDonald Corporation, fast food chain. d. heart failureNYC NYC 10005 103-12-6106 NY Principal owner of Mets,('61-68), Pres.('68-75). Buried: Falmouth Forside Cemetery, Falmouth-Ford Forside, MEDetroit,MI Boston,MA 099-30-4628 Red Sox Owner & Pres.(Feb.,'33-76). d. leukemia, cremated, ashes scattered over Winyah Bay, SCNewark,NJ Scottsdale,Az 109-09-6545 Giants owner('36-76);At the age of 33, he inherited team from his father Charles upon his death Jan.7,'36. Had become club executive('29). Plucked Dodger manager, Leo Durocher, from cross-town rivals in mid-season '48. Bad attendance('56-57), plus losing Tacoma,WA Beverly Hills,CA 90 563-12-5928 Pirates VP '47- '60's. Owned 15% of Pirates. d. Heart attack, buried at Holy Cross Catholic cemetery, Culver City, Los Angeles county, CABronx,NY Los Angeles,CA 90 090-24-9001 Dodger owner('50-79),Dodger lawyer('43-50),deprived Brooklyn fans of their beloved team when he moved the Dodgers to LA('58). LA's hero was Brooklyn's arch super-criminal. By '50, owned majority of stock,after forcing Branch Rickey to sell him his shares.Tioga,TX Studio City,CA 9160 565-16-0614 LA Angels Owner('60-96), Also functioned as Pres.('77-90), In 1990, due to his illness, his wife Jackie assumed the active overseeing of the team operation. d. cancer, buried Forrest Lawn, Hollywood Hills, CAMichigan Detroit,MI Detroit Tigers owner(Jan.27,'52-56,Jul.); Tigers were sold to 11 man syndicate for $5.5 million. He stayed on as VP till the next spring. Owned Detroit Lions in National Football league. Supervised building of Tiger stadium.Brooklyn,NY NYC 10017 109-09-2148 Red Sox owner('76-92), Started out as fashion model and sales clerk at Jay Thorpe(exclusive women's clothes shop(NYC),widow of long-time Red Sox owner,Tom Yawkey, who she married in Dec., '44, inherited team, upon his death('76),as majority owner('77-88).NYC Mt. Kisco,NY Philadelphia Phillies Owner(1943), Permanently expelled from BB by Judge Landis for betting on his own team. Owner - Yankees & Dodgers FB teams.

Montreal,Quebec Minneapolis,MN 55 413-03-7900 Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins owner(55-84), Inherited team fr. Dad,Clark Griffith on his death('55). Transf. Senators from long-time home,Wash.DC to Minneapolis('61).Sold Twins(Carl Pohlad-$36 million,'84).Son,Clark tried to buy'em back,$120m,no go.Greenwich,CT Miami Beach,FL 091-05-3938 NY ; Yankees owner('48-66); In 1945, he, along with Del Webb and Larry MacPhail bought the Yankees. He served as club president from '48-66. Yanks won 15 pennants & 10 World Series during that 22 yr. period. Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx,NYChicago,IL Sarasota,FL White Sox Owner & Pres.('61-70)Chicago,IL Chicago,IL Cleveland Indians owner('46-49), St. Louis Browns owner('51-53), Chicago White Sox('59-61,76-80). d. heart attackNYC Brooklyn Dodgers GM('51-57), Los Angeles Dodgers GM('58-66, San Diego Padres Owner('68-77), California Angels VP('77-?).Chicago,IL Winnetka,IL 335-12-5425 White Sox owner('70-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackNashville,TN Executive in Yankee farm system('45-48),Dir. of Personnel('48-58),Baltimore Orioles GM('58-66,Oct), Yankee GM(Oct.,'66-73), AL Pres.('73-84); Since 1984 has represented owners interests against the Players Union. Reputed to be fair man & negotiator.Chicago, IL Chicago,IL White Sox owner; club secretary('37), & treasurer('39), m. White Sox pitcher John Dungan Rigney,

Birmingham,AL La Porte,IN 46350 312-05-6526 Kansas City Athletics owner ('61-67), Oakland Athletics owner('68-80). Buried; Calumet Park Cemetery / Mausoleum, Lake County, Merrilville, INBaltimore,MD Baltimore,MD 21212216-16-4256 Chairman of Board, owner., Balt. Orioles ('66-80), Pres. Orioles ('80-82)

Illinois White Sox owner & Pres.('57-59);Comiskey had a lot in common with Prince Charles of England. In both cases,their mothers held the reins of power & became so comfortable with it that they couldn't let go the reins to their sons,who got old waiting.St. Paul,MN Rancho Santa Fe,CA San Diego Padres owner(Jan.14, 1984-90) Married Ray Kroc in 1969. They moved from Chicago to San Diego when he bought Padres in '74. He died Jan.14, '84, she was active in managing team until she sold it in '90. d. brain cancer

(Kroc, continued) Ray Kroc had been the owner and founder of McDonald Corporation, the fast food burger chain. Mrs. Kroc was also a philanthropist. In 1998, she gave $100m to Salvation Army, $25m to San Diego U., $19m to Notre Dame(80's), others.Evanston ,IL Atlanta Braves owner('87-); Also functioned as Pres.('67-72) insurance brokerage co. executive

Cincinnati, OH Cinc. Reds owner(1985-99,Apr.20); Continually embarrassed ML BB because she just couldn't grasp how her racial & ethnic beliefs & remarks could offend & infuriate so many people.ML BB forced her to sell her controlling interest in Reds. d. Cinc. hosp.(Schott, continued) Bought her team, like Joan Payson, as opposed to other female owners who inherited theirs from their husbands, Joan Kroc & Jean Yawkey, Ida Shibe, Florence Dreyfuss, Edith Pross, Grace Comiskey. Gave generously to charities.

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Rocky River,OH Yankees owner '73-present; Ch. of Board('80-90), Principal owner('93-Detroit,MI Seattle Mariners owner(Jan.,'81-89);cheap son of a bitch had no place as a big-league owner.Should have stuck to real estate & airlines rather than ruin a good sports franchise. Just another of the many lousy ego-driven "outsider" owners in history.Cinc.,OH Atlanta Braves owner; also served as Pres.('76-86) Minnesota Twins VP & GM('84-93), Chicago Cubs Ch. of Board, VP & GM('76-80), Houston Astros('80-84),Cubs Pres. & CEO('94-still active'02).

Newark,OH Put-in-Bay,OH Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston, Chicago & Philadelphia teams. Inherited wealth from father in coal dealing. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans club. d. after lingering illness. buried:Lakeview,Cemetary,Cleveland,OHChicago,IL Winnetka,IL 335-12-5425 White Sox owner('69-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackNYC NYC Boston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,'12-16,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out as a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Wilmington,OH Chicago,IL Cincinnati spwr.; Cincinnati Times-Star (?-1904) John Brush's secretary of NY Giants('05), Cubs owner('06-13); Voted out of NL for accusing umpires of corruption. d. at his home, had been ill since June, when he suffered a stroke of apolexy.Pittsburgh,PA Montreal,Canada Phil. Phillies owner & Pres.('13-30); Sec. to NYC controller Bird S. Coler(Jan.1,1898-02), Worked on Wall St.('02-05), Appointed Mun. Civil Service commissioner('05-08,Dec.31), Brooklyn,Queens Police Commissioner(Jan.1,'08-10,Dec.20). d. heart attackPA Germantown,PA Philadelphia A's ownerChicago,IL Chicago,IL part owner of White Sox, assistant secretary of White Sox & daughter of J. Louis Comiskey; d. heart attack, complicated by pneumonia, at Mercy Hospital, Chicago, IL.

Atlantic City, NJ Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis

(Farrell, continued) Mr. Farrell had also owned racing enterprises, and racing horses, gambling houses, and asorted other business interests.Brooklyn, NY Brooklyn, NY Brooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness

(Woods, continued) Jimmy Woods also served as publicity man for fight promoters Andy Neiderreiter, and Humberto (Jack) Fugazy. He served in the Navy during WWI.

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Hoboken,NJ Hoboken,NJByron, IL Point Loma, CA ML pitcher, 1871-78; Boston (1871-75), Chicago (1876-78), Manager of Chicago (NL, 1876-77). Part owner / Pres. Of Chicago club, 1882-91. Hall of Fame, 1939. Org. 1st World BB tour, Helped draft NL constitution, 1876. Founded A. G. Spalding & Bros. sporting goods concern in 1876. In 1891, bought out Reach Co.

(Spalding, continued) and wrote, or ghosted, classic history of BB in 1911. Later ran unsuccessfully for US Senate.Spencer,MA Cleveland,OH Cleveland BB team treasurer; Moved Springfield as boy, then Cleveland as young man. Deeply involved in Cleveland's business, social and public activities. Loved BB dearly. d. at home at 2PM, after yrs. of suffering from kidney problems

(Howe), He 1st came to Cleveland('52) as rep. for Howe Sewing Machine Co., his cousin, was Elias Howe. He shortly thereafter went to Europe as rep. for the concern, remaining until shortly before Civil War. Returned, among 1st(Howe), enlistments,1st Ohio Volunteer artillery, under Gen. James Harriet. Served w/ distinction, retired at end of War w/ Captain's rank & comm. Identified with veteran's groups. Involved with banking. At death, Pres.of Citizen's Savings & Loan Co.,

(Howe), He held a heavy interest in the early Cleveland BB team. He, along with Howard Bulkley, owned the 1st BB team in Cleveland, which failed financially. Later, when a vacancy developed in the AA, he and several others organized a team. He was(Howe) He remained the treasurer of the team until Frank de Hass Robison & his brother bought the entire interest. Most socially prominent citizen, fine library, spoke several languages, incl. German & French. His father invented Howe truss bridge.(Howe) He traveled with Cleveland team for many yrs. Best friend to players. Most traveled,Visited most of globe, African jungles,Siberia,forbidden regions of Turkey. Republican, Mason,Customs collector under Pres.Hayes, police comm. under Mayor Gardner.

London, England Played 5 yrs. With Athletics of National, Ass. Thought to be 1st professional player for receiving $1,000. To play for Phil. In 1864. Later founded A. J. reach Sporting Goods Co. Patented baseball with cork center which was invented by Ben Shibe, his business partner & later Phil. A's owner. Sold out to Spalding Co. in 1891.

Morristown,Ont., Ca Detroit, MI Detroit Free Press (1913?-?), baseball historian; Settled in US in his teens, arrived in Detroit from Canada around 1904. Connected with Hugh Wallace Co. Retired recently before he died. County Tyrone,Irela Pittsburgh,PA N.L. President, 1914- August, 1918Otisville,NY Jersey City,NJ NY telegrapher for Giants' baseball gamesMN Chicago,IL BB statistician; Arrived Chicago 1888, Was printer 1888-1908. Drifted into stats & became AL official statistician and also for number of minor leagues. Served as secretary for Chicago chapter of BBWAA for several yrs. d. kidney problem, Millville,OH Chicago,IL BB's 1st Commissioner(Nov.12,'20-44);Ran BB like his own private fiefdom;His Good:Fought farm system,liberated 200 minor leaguers,nullified Ban Johnson(anti-player AL Pres.);Black marks:Barred blacks entry into org. BB; Blacks had to wait for his death;

(Landis,continued), Federal Judge who saved the hides of baseball's owners during their legal challenge from the Federal Leagues owners, who contended that the infamous & blatantly illegal "reserve clause & 10-day clauses" must be outlawed.(Landis), Landis sat on case, issued no decision, Federal League team owners realized that Landis would never rule against established leagues, & threw in the towel. Landis effectively killed free agency for next 60 yrs. d. coronary thrombosis,cremated(Landis,cont.), Landis also fought blacks entering baseball & adamantly refused to oppose the team owners gentlemen's agreement to bar blacks from organized BB. He also refused to reinstate Joe Jackson & Buck Weaver, who played their hearts out in '19.

Albany,NY Troy,NY Baseball greatest photographer('04-early 40's); Lafargeville,NY San Diego,CA NL Pres. 1918-34,NL Sec/Treasurer 1907-18. Buried: Cremated in San Diego, CAEnglewood,NJ NYC NY; Vice President of A. G. Spalding & Co., sporting goods firm, & from '14-41 president of the American Sports Publishing Co.,publishers of the Spalding NL Baseball Guide books. d. St. Clare's Hospital,NYC, after 2 wk. illness, following an operation.

NYC Founded baseball statistics bureau; Kept the official records of the NL, International & many other leagues. He lost a leg in a Florida car accident. Brother Walter was general manager & took over after Al's death in '38. Office was:11 West 42nd St.,NYCSt. Johnsbury,VT NYC NY, Lawyer for Baseball Magazine

St. Louis sp. cartoonist, Sp. N. columnistWest Columbus,WV Rochester,MN AL Pres28-31,Cle 10-27

NYC With his brother Al, ran the Elias Baseball Bureau, which kept the official stats of many leagues. Walter was general manager, until Al died, and then he took over the business.

Bay City,MI NYC Went to NYC in('15) as personal rep. of William H. Yawkey, then owner of Det. Tigers. Following Yawkey's death in '19, Defoe served as financial/business adviser to Thomas A. Yawkey, nephew of William Yawkey. Red Sox secretary('33), Team Board member,(Defoe, continued) Started ship-building company of Bay City with his brother Harry J. Defoe. He also raised Angus cattle in Mt. Pleasant Plantation in Andrews, SC. Developed one of finest breeding herds in country his last 15 yrs.

Van Wert,OH Los Angeles,CA Promoted Prof. FB US 20's, used Red GrangeChicago,IL Evanston,IL 336-09-8851 Ban Johnson's private secretery, December, 1911- Feb. 1,1927; Feb.1, 1927, appointed AL secretery, to acting AL Pres. Frank Navin, AL President, May 27, 1931-1958, AL Chairman of the Board, 1958-71Saranac Lake,NY Augusta,GA 127-03-1944 Player, managaer, traveling sec., owner, scout; Minor L. pitcher, '07, Browns ML pitcher, '09, Tigers, '12, Yankees traveling sec. '52-57, he had scouted /managed for them for many yrs.

Boston,MA 017-14-4712 Bost. Sp. Wr.1917-26,Braves Sec.26-

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Portsmouth,OH Cincinnatti,OH 269-01-6407 Cinc. Enquirer Sp. cartoonistChicago,Illinois Tokyo 342-01-1802 Lawyer recruited by Judge Landis to be his legal aid & advisor(Jan.'21-44,Nov.). Acted as acting Comm. after Landis died in '44,Nov. until May,'45, when Chandler was elected BB's 2nd Commissioner.

(O'Connor,continued), Special Ass. to BB Comm. Albert B. (Happy) Chandler(June-Oct.,'46), White Sox GM & VP(Nov.,'45--48,Nov.), lawyer Pacific Coast league & it's Pres.('56-59).NYC Palm Beach,FL 334 086-03-4505 NY Giants Traveling Secretary('36-71); idolized John McGraw. Moved with the Giants to San Francisco. Knew everybody in NY "worth knowing", and everyone liked him too.

Mass Medford,MA Bost.; Sports cartoonist for Boston Globe for 35 yrs. Joined The Glove in 1910 as a commercial artist. In 1947, The Globe published a series of his sketches of the major league baseball parks, which now hang in BB's Hall of Fame at Cooperstown,NYChicago,IL Chicago,IL White Sox VP & Secretary 1908-Dec.1945, White Sox President('40); June 1946 was named VP of Indians to death; lied to Joe Jackson to get him to sign 1920 contract, told him the 10 day release clause had been dropped. It hadn't. d. brain tumor

Pittsburgh,PA 1521 167-01-1134 Pirates president('32-46), married Barney Dreyfuss' daughter Eleanor Fanny.PA Pittsburgh,PA 1523 168-07-4870 Football official for 22 yrs.; Officiated 575 games(college & pro)

Paramus,NJ07652 156-05-9018 NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept. Quincy,MA 02171 024-07-8684 Bost.; started as usher for Braves; grad.buss. sch.,became secretary of officials of club. Became traveling secretary('19) after Navy service in WW I and held it until 1928. Red Sox Traveling Secretary for17 yrs. Made Assistant GM Red Sox.Orlando,FL 179-01-1883 Phil. Phillies trainer

Ogden,PA Oxford,PA 217-03-4126

Bost.,MA 023-03-4859 N.Eng. Ass.Pr.Corydon,KY Versailles,KY 579-36-4269 BB's 2nd Commissioner; WWI, succeeded Judge Landis, brushed aside strong opposition from majority of owners in clearing way for Jackie Robinson. Kentucky Governor('35-39,55-59)US Senate('39-45). Supported BB's continuation during WWII. d. heart attack

Weston,WV 234-12-5744 Director of security for baseball('52-70); Earlier, had been US Treasury Dept. agent, 1927-52(undercover work in narcotics & bootlegging). Had been FB & BB player at St. bonaventure U. & BB coach & ass. FB coach at Xavier U. in Cinc. d. cancer

Amarillo,TX 79106 452-07-2084 Secretary-Treasurer Amarillo(Texas) Gold Sox('59-67); Owned investment firm, took no pay for his work for team.Silver Spring,MD 20 579-18-3785 Twins & Redskins trainer; Senators trainer('47-'73)Des Plains,IL 60016 318-01-9678 Was with Irwin Howe News Bureau from 1929 - January 1, 1979. He was the sole owner since 1956. From 1979, was consultant for 3 years. Saw all White Sox opening games from 1923-84. Eastchester,NY 107 050-09-4711 Brooklyn Sp. Wr. 1923-55,Mets PR & TR Sec. 1962-80

Liverpool, Eng. Sun City West, AZ 107-07-3241 NYLorain,OH Port Republic,VA 337-10-3784 Chicago,NY sports wr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times, Chicago American spwr. (Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58),Comm.Off.('62-74); Helped develop pension plan & free agency rule.

St. Louis,MO 63130 497-10-4723 St. Louis Tr. Sec. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOFreeport,IL Freeport,IL 321-34-0743 BB Comm. 1965-69

Palm Desert,CA 050-03-9480 Brook., LADetroit,MI 48207 453-05-8842 Detroit Free Press sportswriter('35-60),Detroit Tigers PR director('60-79),Sp.N. correspondent d. cancer

Rochester,NY Tampa,FL 33611 268-03-6883 BB Exec; Cle('61-72, '77-Dec.,84), Reds('52-60), Yankees Pres.(J'73-Dec.,'77),Wichita,KS Chicago,IL 60626 441-07-8974 Chicago Cubs VP & GM('56-76),Bd. of Dir.('76-79)NYC Beverly Hills,CA 90 372-01-2215 d. cancer, buried Hillside Memorial Park, Culver City,CA

Brookline,MA 024-05-5907 Red Sox bat boy & equipment manager for 32 yrs.NYC 056-01-4742 NY; NY Daily News photographer. Collapsed & died September 29, while taking pictures of Yankee-Tiger game at YANKEE Stadium. Springfield,MA 0110 020-01-1765 San Francisco,CA executive in San Francisco Giants minor league organization; With Giants 14 yrs. as buss. man., GM at Springfield,MA;Waterbury,CT & Amarillo,TX

Fullerton,CA 92835 009-01-4168 Dodger GM d. heart failure

Lincolnton,GA Hopkins,Minn Wash & Minn.VP 59-67West Orange,NJ 07 200-03-0800 1st Major Sports Agent (DiMag,Mantle,Aaron,Mays)

Orange,NJ SF,CA 94109 145-16-0689 NY exec; Grad. Dartmouth('43), WW2 Navy, Fordham Law Sch., Giants front officeVP('46), GM('50), succeeded Warren Giles as NL Pres.('70-86),opposed DH rule NL. 15 months Pres. of SD Padres('88). d. heart attack California Pacific Hosp.(San Francisco). (Feeney, continued) Buried in Skylawn Memorial Park, San Mateo, CA

Tacoma Park,MD Commissioner 1968-1984

Ardmore,PA Denver,CO 184-34-5101 Public Relations Director-Denver Nuggets

Roslindale, Newton,MA Boston Braves Traveling Secretary d. heart attack when his car hit a telephone pole 16 year veteran of AL, prominent college basketball referee(20 yrs.) d. coronary thrombosis in St. Luke's Hosp.

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Sheffield, England Atlantic City, NJ ML OF, 1871-77; Managed Boston in the National Association from 1871-75, and Boston in the NL from 1876-81, Providence 1882-83, Philadelphia, 1884-93.Marshalltown, IA Chicago, IL ML 1B, 1871-1897, also played 118 games at 3B, assorted other positions occasionally. 1876-97 were spent with the Chicago White Stockings. Cap managed the White Stockings from 1879-97, and the NY Giants for 1898. He was known for his personal leadership qualities, and prowess as a hitter.

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Montville,CT Richmond,VA Cleveland OF(1880), Detroit(1881-88), Pittsburgh(1889-91), Baltimore(1892); Pittsburgh manager(1889-91), Baltimore manager(1892-98), Brooklyn manager(1899-1906), Reds manager('06-07). Buried: New Cathedral cemetery, Baltimore,MO Why not in Hall of Fame?(Hanlon) Hanlon, not McGraw developed inside tactics; hit & run, the squeeze, hit behind the runner, double steal, which singularly raised the level of play. He developed McGraw,Robinson,Jennings,Gleason,Kelley,Bowerman. Won 4 pennants in row,1894-97.

Chicago,IL Eagle River,WI ML 1B (1882-94), ML manager ( 1883- 94), Chicago White Sox owner(1901-31). Charles managed the St. Louis Browns (1883-89), jumped to the Chicago team in the Player's L. In 1890, went back to the St. Louis Browns for 1891, and finished up his managing career for Cincinnati from 1892-1894. He joined Ban Johnson in launching the AL in 1901. Amherst,NY Denver,CO Boston Beaneaters manager(1890-1901), Cubs manager('02-05); d. consumption, tuberculosis

Hoaglands, OH Cincinnati, OH ML player (1880-97); Widely agreed that Buck was the greatest all-around player of the 1800's, and one of the very greatest catchers who ever lived, until he hurt his throwing arm in sping of 1892. Buck took over managing the NY Giants from Monte Ward for the 1890 season, and returned to them to manage in 1900. He also managed Cinc. club 1895-99. (Ewing, continued) Buck joined the Player's League for 1890 season, managing a NY team to a 3rd pl. finish. The Giants sued him over it's reserve clause. Buck won in court. Monte Ward also was sued over the reserve clause, represented himself & won. (Ewing, continued) Buck returned to the NL NY Giants in '91. Injured his throwing arm in 1892, finished out his playing career as an OF/ 1B. Could always hit & run the bases.

Bellefonte, PA Augusta, GA ML P, IF (1878-94). Started off as a great pitcher, compiled 164-103, 118 ERA+; Hurt his arm in late 1883, converted to SS, but also a lot of 2B, OF, "Monte" managed Providence 1880, NY Giants, 1884, Brooklyn, 1890-92, and the NY Giants once more from 1893-94. (Ward, continued) Monte Ward was one of the most amazing ballplayers ever to play the game. Everyone says Babe Ruth was the only man ever to excel on the mound and then star as a player. Sadly they forget Monte. (Ward, continued) A star ballplayer in college, he hired on as a pitcher, and had 7 great yrs. on the mound before he hurt his arm in late '83, and converted to the IF. He also ran well, leading his league in SB 3 times, once with 111. He studied law at night, graduated with honors in 1885. (Ward, continued) When the Player's Brotherhood announced itself in 1885, John Ward was elected it's President, BB's 1st labor union. On Nov. 4, 1889, John met with around 40 players and discussed forming a Player's L. Around 100 NL players jumped to the new league. Although it lasted only for 1890 season. He returned to NL & finished out his career.

E. Brookfield,MA Germantown,Phil.,PA NL catcher (1886-96), Phil Athletics' manager (1901-50); Philadelphia Athletics owner, from around the 1940's - early 1950's.

Bolton,MA Atlanta,GA Philadelphia catcher(1886-90), Baltimore Orioles catcher(1890-1902), Baltimore Oriole manager('02), Brooklyn Robins/Dodgers manager('14-31). Colorful, delightfully comical character. Much loved by fans & sportswriters dream. Similar to Casey Stengel.Youngsville,OH Youngsville,OH ML outfielder(1889-98); AL man.('01-11),Red Sox Pres.('13)Philadelphia,PA Philadelphia,PA Philadelphia pitcher(1888-91), Cardinals(1892-94), Baltimore(1894-95), Phillies coach('08-11), White Sox coach('12-14,16-17), White Sox manager('19-23), Philadelphia Athletics coach('26-32). d. heart ailment

Augusta,GA Haddock,GA Brooklyn catcher(1890), Phil.(1897-98), Philadelphia Phillies manager(1897-98), Tigers manager('01), New York Highlanders manager('09-10), Boston Braves('13-20). Led his 1914 Boston Braves team, which was last mid-summer to World Champ.(Miracle Braves).Springfield,IL Port Chester,NY Detroit man.('03-04,Aug.),Red Sox manager(Dec.13,'17-Oct.'20),At Harry Hooper's pressure,converted star pitcher Babe Ruth to OF('18-19).As GM of Yankees(Oct.29,'20-39),Pres.(Jan.17,'39-45,Feb.),14 pennants,10 World Series wins,had decisive influence over…

(Barrow,continued) owner Jake Ruppert. In his autobiography('51), stressed he'd never even considered offering Babe Ruth a job with the Yankees after his playing days ended due to Babe's past misbehavior towards Huggins & McCarthy, whose job Babe coveted.(Barrow, continued) Barrow is buried at Kensico Cemetery, Vallalla,NY

Clear Creek,MO Wash.,DC Washington Senators owner('20-55); ML pitcher(1891-1914), Senators manager('01-20), Georgetown,MA Boston,MA Boston Nationals 1B(1894-1907); Giants('08-09), Boston Braves('11), Braves manager('05-07,11), Boston office equitable Life Insurance of NY. Retired '49. Bur.: Harmony Cemetery, Georgetown, MAWinterset, IA Winfield, KS Louville manager, 1897-99, NL OF, 1894-1915; Pittsburgh manager, 1900-15, Pittsburgh coach, 1925Truxton,NY New Rochelle,NY ML 3B(1891-06);Balt.Oriole man.(1899,01-02), NY Giants man.('02-32);W/ Connie Mack, greatest manager all time.For 31 yrs.('03-31)came in lower than 3rd 5 times.Came1st 12 times, 2nd 10 times.Abrasive,colorful,dictatorial.New Cathedral Cem.,Baltimore,MD.

St. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO ML infielder(1898-1905);Cardinals manager('05),Kansas City manager('06-07), Louisville manager, Indianapolis manager, Fort Wayne('10), Indianapolis('11-12), Fort Wayne('13-14), Tigers coach('14-17), St. Louis Browns manager('18-20), (Burke,continued), Red Sox coach('21-23), Toledo manager('24-25), Cubs coach('26-30), Yanks coach('31-33).

Fitchburg, MA Fitchburg, MA NL catcher, IF 1901-14; Phillies manager, 1915-18, Reds manager, 1919-23 Cincinnati,OH Washington,DC ML pitcher & coach; Louisville Colonels pitcher(1898), Red Sox('02-03), White Sox('03-09), Senators('09,12-15,18-19,24,29,31-33), Senators coach('12-53).Marietta,OH Ashtabula,OH 289-20-9010 Pirates catcher(1g,'02), Reds catcher(4g,'03), Cleveland manager('15-19), St. Louis Browns coach('20), St. Louis Browns manager('21-23), Red Sox manager('24-26), Renovo,PA Richmond Heights,MO ML player 1901-03, St. Louis Browns' coach('20), AL umpire('20), St. Louis Browns business manager( July, 1923- Jan., 1931) Buried: Catholic Resurrection Cemetery, St. Louis, MOFresno, CA Los Angeles,CA NL 1B, 1898-12, AL 1B, 1913-14; Cubs manager, 1905-12, Yankee manager, 1913-14, Red Sox manager, 1923Cincinnati,OH NYC NL 2nd baseman & Yankee manager; Reds 2B('04-09), Cardinals('10-16), Cardinals manager('13-17), Yankees manager('18-29). Lewiston, ME Lewiston, ME AL catcher, 1906-16, Red Sox manager, 1913-16, '27-29Louisville,CO Studio City,CA 9160 405-01-5749 Reds 3B('13-14), Phillies('15-17),Cardinals('18),Giants('18);Giants coach('29),Yankees scout('48-49), Angels scout('61-69). Also managed extensively in minors:Jersey City, Mobile,Atlanta,Chattanooga,Knoxvill,Little Rock,Selma,Oak Ridge,Saginaw,Louisville

Browhelm,OH Lake Whales,FL St. Louis Browns OF('09,11-17), Senators('18), Cardinals('19-23), Cardinals coach('23-25), Phillies manager('28-33), Reds coach,'34 & manager,'34), Indians coach('42-45), Brooklyn Dodgers manager('47-50), Collinsville,IL Los Angeles,CA Giants shortstop('09-20), Phillies('20,22), Phillies manager('23-26), Yankees manager(11g,'29), Yankees coach('27-45). Like Frankie Crosetti, got lots of WS rings(9), thanks to Yankees reign at the top. Buried: Glenwood Cemetery, Collinsville, ILHematite,MO Festus,Mo 63028 437-24-6289 Major League player briefly; OF-IF Brooklyn('13), Phillies('25), Federal League(Baltimore,Buffalo), also manager,coach,scout; Coached Phillies('24-26), Tigers('28-30).Weymouth,MA Weymouth,MA NL player('13), Detroit coach('19,21-22), St. Louis Browns manager('27-29)Wilkinsburg,PA Bradenton,FL ML infielder('07,10-18,20); Federal League manager,Newark('15), Pirates' manager('22-26),Cardinals coach('27), Cardinals manager('28-29), Boston Braves manager('30-37), Reds manager('38-46), Cleveland Indians coach('47-49), Red Sox coach('52-53).Philadelphia,PA Buffalo,NY 070-05-1156 Chicago Cubs manager('26-30), Yankee manager('31-46), Red Sox manager('48-50). In the subjective opinion of the writer, Stengel & McCarthy were the 3rd & 4th best managers after Mack & McGraw, 2 genius'. Mack was superior handler of players.

(McCarthy, continued) In his 24 big-league seasons, Joe won 9 pennants and 7 World Championships, compiled a ML best .615 Won-Lost record, and best career world series W-L %, .698. From 1907-25, had a very active minor league career as player, manager.St. Louis,MO Syracuse,NY Pirate infielder('22-25), Pirates coach('26-29) & manager('29-31), Tigers coach('32),Reds coach('33,41),Braves coach('34), Pirates coach('35-39). Reds scout('40), Managed Indianapolis('40),Reds coach('41), Managed Syracuse Chiefs('42-50).

Kansas City,MO Glendale,CA 132-12-5853 NL OF('12-25),Dodgers' coach('32-33) & manager(34-36),Boston Braves manager('38-43),Yankee manager('49-60),Mets('62-65).Casey(& Mack)proved that a manager needs the team to win.With good teams,he won,without them he couldn't.Delightfully colorful.Harvard,NE Columbus,OH 408-16-8376 ML OF; played for Indians('13,15),Pirates('18-20), Red Sox('21-23), Giants('24-25), Cardinals('26-27,29); Giants coach('33), Cardinals manager('29,40-45), Boston Braves manager('46-51), Port Jarvis,NY Bethesda,MD 578-14-5356 Senator's 2nd baseman('19-28),Tigers('29,31); Senators manager('24-28,35-42,50-54), Tigers manager('29-33,55-56),Red Sox manager('34), Phillies manager('43),Yankees manager('47-48),

Philadelphia,PA Philadelphia,PA 354-03-5566 Philadelphia Athletics 2nd baseman('18-32), White Sox 3rd baseman('33-39); White Sox manager('34-46), Philadelphia Athletics coach('49-50) & manager('52-53), Baltimore Orioles manager('54), Reds coach('55-58),(Dykes,continued)Reds manager('58), Pirates coach('59),Tigers manager('59-60), Indians manager('60-61), Braves coach('62), Kansas City Athletics('63-64). Ty Cobb once tried to buy him from Mack for his Tigers, showing his value. Quite an endorsement!!(Dykes, continued) Buried at St. Dennis Cemetery, Havaertown, PA

Ogden, PA Philadelphia,PA 217-03-4126 ML pitcher, club executive, scout; Pitched for Giants('18), Browns('28-29), Reds(31-32), pitched for Baltimore of International League fr. '20-27. VP & General Manager of Baltimore of Int'na'tional L. fr. '33-39.Owned Elmira club of Eastern L.('41-42). (Ogden, continued) Scouted for the Reds, Braves and Phillies. He signed 45 players who made it to the majors, including Richie Allen. John retired as a Phillies' scout in 1971.

St. Louis,MO Scottsdale,AZ 8525 323-01-2508 Phil. A's 1st baseman('16), Cardinals('18), Pirates('19-24), Cubs('25-36), Cubs manager('32-49,60), Cubs coach('41,61-63), Braves manager('52-56), Buried: Cremated, ashes spread by wife over Wrigley Field.

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Decatur,IL Detroit,MI Reds 3B('25-31), Giants('33); Reds manager('34-37), Dodgers coach('39-42,43-46,58-59), & manager('51-53), Yankees coach('47-48), Senators manager('55-57), Braves manager('60-61), Tigers manager('63-66), Cranston,RI Sarasota,FL 33580 053-01-7085 Boston Braves(pitcher,OF, '22-44),Yankees('40), Braves coach('40-42,46-55), White Sox pitching coach('57-64).Utica,NY Utica,NY 13502 069-09-7772 Tigers coach('44-49)1st base coach; Was 0-1 in 19 games with Braves('27-28); Also pitched at Rochester,Buffalo,Toronto,Binghamton,Pittsfield,Williamsport. For several yrs. after Tigers he coached at Portland.Antioch,TN Nashville,TN 408-09-4096 Boston Bees(Braves) pitcher('37-39), Reds pitcher('40-42), Yankees pitcher('42-45), Yankees pitching coach('49-59,66-73, minor league manager('60), Reds61-65). d. died in nursing home

West Springfield,MA Palm Springs,CA 498-07-5837 Yankees shortstop('25-29), Reds('30-33), Cardinals('33-37), Dodgers('38-41,43,45); Dodgers manager('39-48), Giants manager('48-55), Dodgers coach('61-64), Cubs manager('66-72), Astros manager('72-73). Slick glove, no hit. Sharpest, dapper dresser.During last 2 wks of '26,'27 seasons, can't tell from record books,but brought up by Yankees to sit on their bench but didn't get into any games. Ruth named him "the All-American out",accused him of stealing a watch. Bur: Forrest Lawns, Hollywood Hills,CA

Cambridge,MA Allston,MA 02134 290-09-2396 St. Louis Browns 1B('30-36) & coach,Tigers 1B(May,'36-Sept.,'36);Minor league manager for Toronto,Bradford,Fall River,Scranton & Albany. Red Sox coach('53-60, & scout,'61-73)Long Island City,NY Tampa,FL 33629 097-01-9962 2nd & 3rd baseman; Reds('30-31),Dodgers('32-35),Boston Braves('36-40,42-43),Giants('40),White Sox('43-45), Reds coach('49-51), Indians coach('52-56), White Sox coach('57-66,69), Tigers coach('67-68), d. congestive heart failureTampa,FL Dodger catcher('28,30-35), Braves catcher('36-40), Pirates catcher('40-46), Indians catcher('47); Cleveland Indians manager('51-56), White Sox manager('57-69); Won AL pennants in '54(Indians), & '59(White Sox) to break up Stengel's 10 pennants in 12 yrs.!

Beemer,NE Chardon,OH 44024 286-07-4730 Indians' pitcher('28-47), Indians' manager(2g,'61, 4g,'62 Indians coach('47-63), Mets coach('64), Cubs coach('65), Reds coach('66-68), Kansas City Athletics coach('69). San Francisco,CA Stockton,CA 545-09-9007 Yankee shortstop('32-48),Yankee coach('47-68),Seattle Mariners coach('69),Twins coach('70-71), played in 7 World Series,coached in 15 more(earned 17 WS rings),both with Yankees; good glove,no hit; retired to Oakland,CA

Venice,OH Darrtown,OH 079-14-2521 Cardinals 1B for 1 game('36); Dodgers manager('54-76); Inducted into BB Hall of Fame('83), Won 7 NL pennants & 4 World Series as manager of first Brooklyn and then LA Dodgers. Managed 13 yrs. in minors before called up to Dodgers for '54 season.Montreal,Quebec Minneapolis,MN 55 413-03-7900 Washington Senators owner(' 55-Birmingham,AL Vincent, AL 35178 416-05-456 ML pitcher, 1941-47, Managed Baltimore, '61, Houston, '64-65, Atlanta, '68-72.

Chester,PA 19094 Chester,PA 19094 171-10-191 Pirates manager('57-64,67,70-71,73-76), Won World Series in '60 & '71. Preceded by coaching Bucs in '56-57. d. heart attack, buried at St. Peter's & Paul's Cemetery, Springfield,PALynn,MA Swampscott,MA 274-16-8460 Indians catcher('41-42,46-57), Det. catcher('58), Philly catcher('58-59), Giants catcher('59), Cubs catcher('60); Yankee coach('60-73,79-80), Tigers coach('74-78),Norristown,PA Las Angeles Dodgers coach (1973-76), manager('76-96), also coached US mens baseball team at 2000 Sydney,Australia Olympics, won Gold Medal Germantown,IL Cardinals 2B('45-56,61-63), Giants('56-57), Braves('57-60), Cardinals coach('61-64,79-89), Cardinals manager('65), Oakland Athletics coach('77-78), Phoenix,AZ Cardinals infielder(49-56,59), Phillies('56-58), Cardinals manager('59-61), Mets coach('62-63), Indians coach('64-65).Salina,KS Manager Philadelphia Phillies (1960-1968), Montreal (1969-1975), Minnesota Twins ( 1976-80), California Angels (1981-82, 85-87). Kansas City coach (1995)Brooklyn,NY Senators' 3B('44,46-58), Tigers 3B('59-60), Dodgers 3B('61-62); Angels coach('62), Senators manager('63), Senators coach('63-67), Giants coach('68-76), Red Sox coach('77-84).Berkeley,CA Johnson City,NY Yankee 2B('50-53,55-57),Kansas City Athletics('57),Tigers('58),Indians('59),Reds('60,Braves('61),Twins('61); Twins coach('65-68, & manager,'69),Tigers man.('71-73),Texas Rangers manager('73-75),Yankees manager('75-79,83,85,88),Oakland A's manager('80-82).

Emporia,VA Minneapolis,MN 55 230-22-9562 Cubs 2nd baseman('54-55), Minn. Twins coach('69-75)St. Louis,MO Baltimore Oriole manager('68-82,85-86)Cincinnati,OH Dodgers infielder('54-59), Cubs('60-61,63), Giants('62), Reds('62), Senators('63-65), Expos coach('71), San Diego Padres manager('72-73), Red Sox (coach,74-76, & manager,'76-80), Texas Rangers manager('81-82), Cubs (coach,84-86, & manager'88-91), Hazel Park,MI Pirates OF, 1955-65, 68; Pirates' manager, '72-73; Yankees' manager, '74-75; Houston Astros' manager, '75- 82; Montreal manager, '83-84. Pirates' coach, '68-71, 86; Houston Astros' coach, 1997New Athens,IL AL OF, 1956-63; Texas Ranger's manager, 1973; California Angels' manager, 1974; Kansas City Royals' manager, 1975-79; St. Louis Cardinals' manager, 1980-90; Kansas City Royals' coach, 1965; Mets' coach, 1966; California Angels' coach, 1974-75.Bridgewater,SD Phillies 2nd baseman; San Diego coach('69), Reds manager('70-78), Tigers manager('79-95).Aberdeen,MD Baltimore,MD 215-32-7491 Baltimore Orioles coach('76-86,89-92), Balt. Orioles manager('85,87-88); d. cancerBrooklyn,NY Mets manager ( '77-81), Atlanta manager ('82-84), Cardinals manager ('90-95), Yankees manager ('96-present (04); Braves catcher (1960-68), Cardinals/ Mets IF ('69-77)Tulsa, OK Atlanta Braves manager, (1978-85, 90-present(04). NY Mets coach, 1978; Had been NY Yankee 3B 1968-69Tampa,FL Manager Chicago White Sox (1979-1986), White Sox coach (1978), Oakland Athletics (1986-1995), St. Louis Cardinals (1998-2003) and still with Cards.

Honolulu,HI Dodgers pitcher('70-80), Texas Rangers('80-90), White Sox('91-92),Florida Marlins('93-94); Dodgers coach('98)Riverside, CA ML OF (1968-85); Giants coach (1988-92), Giants manager (1993-02), Chicago Cubs manager (1903-present(04).

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Oswego,NY Brooklyn,NY Brooklyn Dodgers scout; Brought to them:Zach Wheat,Dazzy Vance,Casey Stengel,Hi Myers,Jake Daubert,Jeff Pfeffer,Sherry Smith, Lew McCarty,Hank Deberry. Never left his job as proofreader for Newark Star Eagle. Also a printer.

(Sutton, continued), Became full-time Dodger scout('09), Dodger buss.man. of Bears in Newark,NJ('13), Was with Tigers, Phillies, Reds('16-20). Returned to Dodgers in '20 & remained on payroll till illness forced his retirement in 1932.Springfield,IL Springfield,IL Giants' scout, 1907-32. Former owner of Springfield club in Three-Eye L. , chief of Illinois Oil Inspection Division. d. ill of a week, in St. John's Hosp

Killorglin,Ireland Holyoke,MA scout; ML player(1891-1905), managed NY Giants(1995), Washington(1898), minor leagues: Toledo('05), Des Moines('06), Milwaukee manager('07). NL ump('1911). Minor League ump:New England L., AA, Pacific C. L,Western & 3I. Cubs scout('20-58), St. Louis,MO St. Louis,MO Cardinal scout('08-39) Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOChicago,IL Williamsport,PA 17 130-14-4136 Cardinals shortstop('06-07), minor league manager(Montreal of International league('28-32), scouted for many major league teams.

Colin,TX McKinney,TX White Sox scout('25-42); teamed with wife Bessie as scouting team. Roy was totally deaf & Bessie would read his lips, drive the car on scouting trips. She became shrewd judge of talent herself. d. after month's illness. Retired when wife became ill. Portsmouth,OH Portsmouth,OH ML scout; Played minor league ball as pitcher; scouted for Detroit('19), Phillies('18), Milwaukee('16-17), Cleveland('13-15), St. Louis Browns('10-12).

McKinney,TX White Sox scout('25-43); teamed with husband Roy as scout team for White Sox; signed Carl Reynolds, Luke Appling, Zeke Bonura, Monty Stratton. One of few women scouts in BB history.NYC Bronx,NY Began as a St. Louis Brown's catcher in 1912-13, gained fame as long-term scout for the New York Yankees('Illinois LA,CA 90028 339-10-7716 Red Sox scout('43-49),White Sox scout('50-69)Cambridge,MA Cambridge,MA Red Sox scout; ML OF('23-30), played & managed in minors. Red Sox scouting staff('44-51,death).

(Lopez, continued) From 1951-65, a period of 15 yrs., El Senor came in 1st or 2nd every year

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Washington,ME Waldoboro,ME 0457483-10-0480 Dodger scout; Branch Rickey sent him to make initial contact with Jackie Robinson in 1945,was Dodger's acting man. when Robinson broke major' modern color barrier.Had been ML catcher(Reds,'26-31,Dodgers,32-34,45). Coached Dodgers('43-51),Pirates('52-57).Norman,OK 73069 447-14-0565 Red Sox scout('48-73), before that he scouted part-time a number of yrs. He coached baseball at colleges & high schools in Oklahoma before he became a scout.

Willard,MO Willard,MO 65781 493-16-5702 ML scout; Minor leagues as pitcher & manager. Yankee scout('49-64), Dodger scout, St. Louis Browns scout('41-?) Signed Mantle, encouraged Dodgers to sign Jackie RobinsonSan Antonio,TX 466-03-1325 Houston Astros scout('62-65),Dodger scout('66-69), Giants scout('70-73,death).

Jackson,MS 422-18-5031 Yankee scoutChestnut Hill,MA 013-01-1789 Bost. St. Louis,MO 489-09-1069 Met's scout

Chicago,IL Chicago,IL 267-01-6401 ML pitcher White Sox, Braves, Dodgers & Cardinals, mostly in relief (1933, 1 inning, '37-41, 44-45. Piloted 14 minor league teams, '51-70. He also scouted for ML in between, for White Sox at time of death. He played for 13 minor L. clubs. d. cancerPalm Springs,CA 92 104-09-3721 Pittsburgh Pirates scout('50-88); Schooled under Branch Rickey, he was an early recruiter of Latin American talent. Signed lots of Central Americans, such as Clemente, Tony Pena,etc. for Pirates.

Bridgeton, NJ New Smyrna Beach, FL Pirates' scout (1950-59), Pirates scouting director, 1959-67; Special Ass. to Cincinnati GM, 1968-1990. Singned Maz to Pirates, '54, Maury Wills to Dodgers, 1950, Dick Groat to Pirates, 1952, also signed Roger Craig and infielders Gene Freese and Gene Michael. Was a longtime resident of the Pittsburgh suburb Mount Lebanon. Moved to FL in 1980.Swansea,MA Keene,NH 037-10-8882 Reds scout

Hamilton,OH 230-07-9580 Dodgers scout('50-67), Reds 68-75,

St. Louis,MO 489-03-8411 Cardinals scout since 1947. Became chief scout. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOHuntington, IN Grover, MO 63040 St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles scout (1951-86): He began as a scout with the Browns and stayed on when the Browns moved to Balt. Involved with securing Jim Palmer, Boog Powell, Dave McNally, Davey Johnson, Frank Robinson. 6 pennants, 3 WS.

Brooklyn,NY, same as Red Sox sc 1900?

Born Died SS# Yrs. of Service Description of Career HighlightsIreland? San Jose,CA AL 1901-14 NL 1892,96-97 d. heart attack after 3 weeks illness, after suffering sunstroke during course of a game in August. His yr. of birth is often erroneously listed as 1852, when it actually was 1862, as listed in the Cal. death index. Began promising BB career as 2B for the Renos in 1884, at age 22. Umped in the Cal. L. in 1886, the Players L. in 1890.Memphis,TN Peoria,IL AL 1903-03Ashland,PA Pottsville,PA Al 1905-09 NL 1991-97,00,03 d. acute indigestion, uraemic poisoningPhiladelphia,PA Philadelphia,PA FL 1914 ML SS, 1892, '93-07Manchester,Eng. Natick,MASS 024-14-2879 AL 1901-31 NL 1898-00, Supervisor of Umps, 1931-54Philadelphia,PA Cranston, RI AL 1907-14 NL 1878,86 NL pitcher for Washington in 1894; Pitched only 5 innings in 1 game. President / manager of the Scranton team in the NY / PA league (1926). Pitched for Providence L. in 90's. Umped in Eastern L., AA L., worked the '13 WS, managed Milwaukee in AA, Oklahoma City in TX, L., Providence in Eastern L., Scranton in NY/PA L., Newark in Intern. L.

(Egan, continued) Scouted for Red Sox & Pittsburgh. Coached Providence College in the 1930's, Teresa, NY Chicago, IL AL 1911-12 ML pitcher 1893, 1895-96,1901Rochester,NY Boston,MA AL 1902-18 d. influenzaPittsburgh,PA Torrance,CA 290-05-5598 AL 1915

Jacksonville,FL AL 1915Renovo,PA St. Louis, MO AL 1920Syracuse,NY Syracuse,NY AL 1909-37 ML pitching star 1898-1909, AL umpire 1909-37, D. Syracuse Memorial Hosp. Buried: Utica, NY St. Agnes CemeteryPaterson, NJ Drexel Hills,PA AL 1911-12

Napa,CA AL 1909-12 d. at State Hospital for the insane

Scranton,PA Frederick,MD AL 1915-32 Buried: Mt. Olive Cemetery, Frederick,MDSan Francisco,CA Woodland Hills,CA AL 1913-34Platteville,WI Chicago,IL AL 1923-27Cambridge, MA Worchester, MA AL 1907-14 Began umpiring when 20, and still playing ball in the New England league. Worked the '08 WS. Later, became umpire-in-chief of England, New England, and International League. Retired '36, he worked Harvard, Yale, Holy Cross games. Owned Bowling alleys.Dayton,OH Dayton,OH AL 1923-24 NL 1921 colorful ML league player, with Chicago White Ox ,manager, umpire & club Pres. Owned Western L. clubs, in Siox City and Lincoln, NE. Umpired in Western L., and scouted for some teams including Des Moines, IAChicago,IL Miami,FL AL 1906-27 Buried: Knollwood Cemetery, Cleveland,OHChicago,IL Miami,FL AL 1917-40Milwaukee,WI Chicago,IL AL 1916-37 Buried: Chicago Fairmont Cemetery

Chicago,IL Chicago,IL AL 1922,28-32Indianapolis,IN Indianapolis,IN AL 1925-42

Seminole, FL AL 1914-15 Grad. U, of Michigan & its law school, AL umpire while in college, Detroit Times sp. ed.; Joined General Foods in 1937, and became a VP, and Campbell Soup Co. in 1953, and became an executive VP.

Richmond Hills,NY AL 1921-22 NL 1922-28 Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.AL 1928-31 NL 1939-40 Attended U. of Tennesse and Mississippi; Athletic director and coach of Memphis Univ. School, Southern League ump, started in '23.

Rock Island,IL Hoople,IL 336-09-8854 AL 1933-40 Was to work the '41 season in the Amer. Ass.,was killed with 4 others in a head-on collision near Hooppole,Il the night of Feb.23.Chicago,IL Chicago,IL AL 1923-41Harrison,NY Upton,MA AL 1933-59Wilmington,DE Silver Springs, MD AL 1925-54 d. heart attack, Cathedral Cemetery, Wilmington, DE

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Baltimore,MD Baltimore,MD AL 1938-59Rochester,NY Rochester,NY AL 1927-33 d. of injuries suffered in an auto accident on July 19.Keytesville,MO St. Petersburg, FL AL 1935-51 Supervisor of AL umpires, '51-69 d. cancerPhillipburg,NJ Evanston,IL AL 1942-62Holyoke,MA Boston,MA 014-05-9580 AL 1947-65

Philadelphia,PA 161-01-0736 AL 1946-71Falmouth,MA 02540 AL 1953-73 Worked 4 WS in career d. after a lengthy illnesNorth Troy,NY AL 1912,14 AA - 5 yrs., International L. - 4 yrs. , Started season with Western L. but had to quit on Sept. 20, due to bad healthKewanee, IL AL Managed Beaumont club in Texas L. d. PneumoniaKansas City, AL 1925-26 d. heart attack had worked as umpire for last 25 yrs. in mior leagues. Pacific Coast L., AA, Texas, International Portland, ME AL 1903 Deputy Sheriff and Republican political worker. d. ill for several days with bronchial pnuemonia, at home

AL 1911-12; Federal League 1915AL 1914-22, (exc.17,18)

Sheffield, England Atlantic City, NJ NL 1885 ML OF 1871-77, BostonRockford, IL Rockford, IL NL 1881 ML OF/1B & NL umpire. d. at his homeBrooklyn, NY Brooklyn, NY NL 1879, 1884-85 prior to becoming a ML umpire, he had had a full ML career as a ballplayer. He had been a 3B & 2B from 1871-84. d. died of apoplexy on Thursday evening

Norwich, CT NL 1876,78-80,87-88, Nat. Ass.1874-75 Umpired for 25 yrs. for the AA, NL, Eastern Association, & the college association. Received $5-$10. for each of his earlier games. d. from injuries & exposure, when he fell on a country rd. during a snowstorm days before. NYC NYC NL1879,81,86-91 ML catcher, 1878, 1880-85;Wash. D.C. Wash. D.C. NL 1892-93,98-01 ML player Washington Nationals catcher(1873), Lord Baltimores catcher(1874), Philadelphia's catcher(1875), Managed Cincinnati(AA,1882-84) & Washington Nationals(AA,1891).Roxbury,MA NYC NL 1884-86,91-94,99-00 (Sp. N. Jan.1,1914,death roll of 1913 They called him The King of Umpires; He also managed the Washington Nationals 1886-87.Guelph,Ontario St. Thomas,Ontario NL 1891-1924Painsville, OH W. Palm Beach,FL NL 1895-98,99 former Phil. OF

Lancaster Co.,PA Milwaukee,WI minors? Sp.N. Jan.4,1917New Britain,Conn. New Britain,Conn. They called him "The King of Umpires", NL Pres.('09-13). He was a prominent Elk. D. Hartford Hospital after illness of 6 wks. Very interested in New Britain, CT Lyceum Theatre. Umped in Eastern L. before he joined Nat. L. staff.

Beloit, WI 1880's d. pneumoniaWilmington, DE Philadelphia,PA NL 1885-86, 89, 98 Playeed OF for ML team Ric in a league, in 1884.

Reading,PA NL 1887 Had been ML catcher 30 yrs. before. d. paralysisPittsburgh, PA NL 1902 also Pitts. sp. wr. for many years,(Sp.N. Jan.1,1914,death roll of 1913; d. at home of nervous breakdown.

Janesville, WI Hickman, KY NL 1902; AL 1901 Managed Washington Senators AL team for 1907-09, Served as umpire, player & scout in various leagues. First sent Walter Johnson his fare for tryout with Senators, after many other teams passed on offering him tryout. Chicago,IL Chicago,IL NL 1895-1927,(exc.96,12,14) d. bronchial pneumonia

New York,NY Savannah,GA NL 1903-04,10,18 Horse Cave Cemetery, Louisville, KYHouston,TX Norristown,PA NL 1905 Phil. pitcher, chief of police of Norristown,PA from 1930-44. d. at home in his sleepPhiladelphia,PA Philadelphia,PA FL 1914 ML(1892-1907) & minor league shortstop, was rated by some as greatest fielding shortstop, later was clothing salesmen for Gimbels Brothers dept. store, managed Kansas City minor league team.

Louisville,KY NL 1909-10 Later umpired in the American Association and Federal League. d. heart diseaseYpsilanti,MI NL 1913-19

Rochester,NY Miami,FL NL 1905-40Brookville,PA Douglas,AZ NL 1902,10-16 Buried: Black Oak Cemetery, Canelo, AZNashville,TN Horse Cave,KY NL 1917-39 also was grid coach, also a NL player as a St. Louis CardinalNew Castle,NB,CANSt. Mary's,KS NL 1913-37

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Lowell, MA NL 1920-29, AL 1912-13 Maine State L., International L., AA. Plains, PA Pompano Beach, FL NL 1922Pottsville, PA Harrisburg,PA NL 1915 Grad. Bucknell U. and coached their FB team.Massillon,OH Northeast,PA NL 1906-35, (exc.23) d. brain tumor

Clarendon,PA Philadelphia,PA NL 1928 NL OF('04-19),Phillies('04-14), Braves('15-17), Reds('17-19), Cook County,IL Bedford,VA NL 1930-34, (exc. 32)

Cork, Ireland NL 1903-12 AL 1902 Invented catcher's mask. Pitched in North Eastern & Atlantic Leagues. Also umpired in Federal League & AA. Shortly after his wife died, he left for 3 wk. vacation to Europe. Reported to have died of infection of neck, contracted from onboard ship.Pottsville, PA Memphis,TN NL 1914 long-time minors umpMcPherson,KS Rock Island,IL NL 1929-47

Richmond Hills,NY AL 1921-22 NL 1922-28 Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.Cincinnati,OH New Orleans,LA NL 1922-36 Umped in Kitty L. (1910), Missouri-Illinois, Central, Central Ass., Ohio St., NY St., International L., Texas L., Southern L.; Umped 26 yrs., over 4,000 g. Once held AL record for working 1710 consecutive games. d. Baptist Hosp. long-term kidney illnessScammon,KS Tulsa,OK 74114 443-01-1204 NL 1931-49New York New York,NY NL 1928-35,37-40,42 d. heart attackTaunton,MA Long Beach,CA 550-05-0495 NL 1926-49 called "Beans" because he hailed from Boston; friend of Mae West, appeared in many of her moviesChicago,IL Scottsdale,AZ 207-05-1116 NL 1941-64Waco, TX Dallas,TX 75214 450-05-2537 NL 1936-57 NYC Closter,NJ 07624 009-05-0012 NL 1951-76

Mansfield, OH NL 1886-88 d. after illness of several months Total BB (1890, 1897)NL 1894 Umpired South Atlantic L, in 1910, had been a race walker, and set a record for the 100 miles in 18 hrs. & 4 minutes.

Webster, MA NL 1906 d. at homeChester, PA NL 1896 Umpired with South Jersey L., NL, AA, International L., Western L., Souther L., Tri-State, NY L. d. At hosp. in Ridley Park, near Philadelphia, PA, after operation.Cincinnati, OH NL 1922-23 Had lived in New Orleans, d. Had had a ruptured appendix, had operation, then relapsed. Had come from the Texas League.

TN Knoxville,TN NL 1909-13,21 Southern Ass. League (20 yrs.), National, Federal ,Iowa State, Western Ass., Western League, Wisconsin State umpire. Coached FB at Tennesse U. Medical College at Memphis, TN. d. underwent emergency operation for ruptured ulcer.

Chicago, IL NL 1882, 1885 d. heart diseaseAurora,IL NL 1892 d. train

NL 1891-94Detroit,MI NL 1899 AL 1901, Fed. League 1914 Detroit OFChicago, IL NL 1889-94 AA umpire d. inflamtion of the stomache

England Saranac Lake, NY NL 1916-20 His parents settled in Youngstown when he was a young child. d. tuberculosisSt. Louis, MO NL 1911-12, FL 1914 d. at his home

Concerning BB's Hall of Fame, I nominate Charles Comiskey, Kenesaw Landis, & Ban Johnson for immediate expulsion. I further nominate these names for enshrinement:

Francis C. Richter, John B. Foster, Ferdinand C. Lane and Sam Crane for the Taylor Spink Award. They were superhuman in their efforts to promote BB and the volume of work they did on BB's behalf.

Born Died SS # Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; PA St. Louis, MO Secretery of St. Louis Browns until his death in 1884. Credited with developing present system of batting / fielding ave. Served as sp. ed. of the Phil. Sunday Dispatch, moved St. Louis in 1875. Worked Republican, Post-Dispatch, Spectator and Critic. NYC NYC NY spwr.; Grad. Seton Hall, NJ, & CC,NY; NY Daily News, NY Commercial Advertiser, NY Herald BB reporter for 10 yrs., dramatic critic, city ed., Albany correspondent. In 1872, accepted the office of Clerk of the Board of Assistant Aldermen for a short time.

(Kelly, continued) Ed. DeWitt BB Guide 1968. One of 1st to make use of box scores, & is credited with introducing the shorthand system of scoring in 1861 editor-in-chief of Atlantic Monthly d. congestion of the kidneys, complicated by pneumoniaNYC St. Louis, MO St. Louis spwr.; Grad. Cornell U., entered journalism in NY; St. Louis Republic spwr.: Secretary / Manager of St. Louis Browns (May, 1885- 1890) Made business man. / secretery of Chicago Players League club (The Brotherhood, June 15, 1890). Did the publicity for Chris Von Der Ahe in 1891 - 1994, Aug. 9. St. Louis baseball scorer.

(Munson, continued) Press Agent of St. Louis Fair Ass. Put out Horse Show Monthly. Sec. of Horse Show Ass. / local Kennel Club. Was elected Pres. of the original Base Ball reporters Association of America in Cincinnati (Dec.,1887); One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide.

(Munson, continued) Essential member of Scorer's Ass. One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide. Came from NY in 1883. Married Lizzie in 1888; 2 kids by 1900. d. double pneumonia / kidney complications, buried in Calvary Catholic Cemetery on March 17, 1908.El Paso, TX Chicago spwr.; Began his career Chicago Times (1881?-?), Chicago Herald news writer & night editor, Chicago Chronicle editorial staff, managing ed. His brother Horatio is publisher of the Chicago Chronicle. d. Had been ill with Tuberculosis for several months, and had sought El Paso climate to prolong his life.

Quebec Provence, Can. St. Louis spwr.; Arrived from Quebec to St. Louis in 1860's. One of 1st BB writers in Midwest. Cincinnati telegrapher, left Western Union telegraph Co. to wrk Cinc. Gazette & then went St. Louis, Missouri Democrat. When Globe merged with Democrat, took over as telegrph ed. During spare time, developed sp. page for Globe-Democrat.

(Spink, continued) Covered all sports and was regared as one of top writers of his day, due to his versatility. Buried: Catholic Cavalry on July 2, 1885.Brooklyn spwr; Original founding member of BWAACinc. spwr.; Cincinnati Associated Press, at least 1911, Original founding member of BWAA

Georgetown, MD contributor to Baseball Magazine. Last article, July, 1937. d. Georgetown University Hospital. Wife: Nona WardTennesse NY spwr.; NY Sunday Mercury (1975-?). Served official scorer NY Metropolitans (1880-83), and for the Giants (1883-89). Was a staunch advocate of the International League of the 1870's. NY Herald (1876-89). United Press sports writer (1894). Brother of William M. Rankin

NY,BBM Lawyer associated with Baseball Magazine, from their beginnings.

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Westminster, MA Boston, NY spwr.; Grad. Saugus HS, MA, in 1907, Mt. Hermon academy, 1909, Dartmouth College, 1913, Boston Post (1913-17), started on city staff, quickly moved on to sports staff, 1914-17, Seved w/ 76th Div. & 5th div. in WWI, w/ rank of captain, 1917-19.(Parker, continued) Boston American (1919-22), NY Evening Mail (1923-24), NY Morning World (1924-27), NY World-Telegram (1927-39, Aug. 24) Free-lance writer to many periodicals. Ass. Director to Leo Casey, Dir. Publicity for NY World's Fair.

England (Wales) Pittsburgh sp. wr.; Pittsburgh Press; Original founding member of BWAA

Brooklyn, NY 11233 264-10-3803 Brooklyn,NYMontreal, Canada Montreal sports writer; Montreal Star(at least from '29-59)

Racine, IN Milwaukee, WI 5321 393-01-9620 Milwaukee spwr.; sports editor and reporter for papers in Racine and in LaPorte, Ind., before joining the Journal in 1922 as a rewrite man. Became sports editor in 1933, holding the post until 1956, when he became a natural resources reporter. He retired in 1964. Milwaukee Journal spwr. (1922-56), (Lynch, continued) After retiring from newspaper work, Lynch became the first chairman of the new Natural Resources Board. It was 1967, and environmental concerns were popping up all over.(Lynch, continued) He is credited for having played a major role in the move of the National League Braves baseball team from Boston to Milwaukee. Wrote "The Milwakee Braves" with Harold Kaese, in 1951.

St. Louis, MO 491-38-0896 St. Louis spwr. ; St. Louis Globe-Democrat spwr. & Sporting News pro FB columnist Buried: Cavalry Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOPhiladelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Inquirer (1945 - 1972) Sporting News Philadelphia correspondent, 1945-72.

Chalfont, PA 066-18-5312 Philadelphia Record sp. ed. (1939); Philadelphia Inquirer ('56-59) sp. ed.

Warwick, RI 038-03-7092 Boston spwr.; Boston Post (1949?-?)Baseball Magazine writer

Conn. Baseball Magazine writer

DetroitChicago spwr.; Chicago Tribune spwr. (1925- 1928, Dec.) Chicago Daily News (summer, 1951) wrote Football books, History of Bears

BBM Mar. 1952 NY

NYC NY spwr.; Grad. Long Island U. at Brooklyn Academy of Music (June, 1941), book ed.,newspaper ed., High School teacher; lived in Laguna Beach,CA 27408 Atlanta Constitution spwr., '55-86

Missouri NY sp. wr.; Bronx Home News reporter 1917?-1933?; NY Post('56-58). editor of newspaper in 1930 census; In 1917, was a reporter, in WWI civilian draft registrationYork,PA PA 184-07-5725 Phil. spwr; Philadelphia North American, at least 1911-14, Phil. Evening Bulletin spwr. ('42)

St.Petersburg,FL 147-09-0565 Newark

New York Brooklyn,NY 11215 063-09-8385 NY sp. wr.: NY Post('56) in 1930 was a reporter with newspaper.Langhorne,PA 063-10-2109 Syracuse,NY spwr.: sports editor of the Post-Standard

Mt. Vernon,NY NY sp.wr.;

NYC sports writer; the New Yorker(1962-?)New Rochelle,NY 067-22-3337 Sp. ILL.

Central Falls,RI White Sox Personnel DirectorBrookline,MA Brewers Tr. Sec. & VPRochester,NYLafayette, PA Pitts.

Pittsburgh,PA Pittsburgh Gazette-Times sp. ed.Memphis,TN Memphis,TN sp. ed.

CT. Syracuse,NY Syracuse, NY ass. sp. ed.; Syracuse (NY) Post-Standard sp, ed. d. auto accidentBrooklyn,NY New York ass. sp. ed.; NY Herald-Tribune Ass. sp. ed

Boston,MA Toronto,Ont.Canada Chi. Tribune sp. ed.; WWI vet. Frank M. Smith had been sp. ed. of the Chicago Tribune until 1925. He then moved east and got into wrestling promotion. He managed Jim Browning, heavyweight wrestling champ.

(Smith, continued) He began as a copy reader in the editorial dept. in 1912, and stayed until the start of WWI. Received commission as 2nd lieutenant, seved more than yr. overseas with/165 infantry. After war, then 1st lieutenant, returned to Tribune, made sp. ed. in '21, left in '25. New Haven,CT Phil. spwr; Credited with helping Connie Mack get his start in baseball. Fletcher, along with Tom Reilly of Meriden, persuaded Mack to leave his home in east Brookfield, MA and join the Meriden team of Connecticut League in 1884. d. in New Haven hospital

NY Brookline,MA Bost.San Diego,CA San Diego

L.I.,NY Long Islands,NY; spwr for the Long Island Press(NY). Wrote several non-sports books, covered basketball and some major league baseball.Rockford,IL Rockford Morning Star(IL) sp.ed.; official scorer for Rockford minor leagues baseball teams

NY spwr.; New York Times (1969-?)Milwaukee Journal ('47-86), Sp. N. basketball columnist; radio announcer (1945-?) WINX; Had been on a troop ship during WWII as Lieut.sports writer; contributing writer to Sports Illustrated(1962-89), authored 13 books

Conn. Baltimore sports writer; Hartford Courant staff writer; BBWAA secretary/treasurer (1991?-2004?)Boston sports writer; Boston Post (1954)Boston spwr.; (1959) Boston Herald (1950-65)

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Cinc.St. LouisSt. Louis, Philadelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Record ( May, 1937-43)

Baseball Magazine writerChicago Daily News sports columnist, Sporting News correspondent.

State death certificates: California, Ohio, Florida,Michigan, DC,NY(not NYC)

States Which Restrict States - death certificates

Access To Vital Records NY - Conlon, WoosterAlaska Mich. - ManningArizona Ohio - Phelon, SingerDelaware Cal - J. Jackson

Florida - Durant, LaniganIllinois - Jan.1,1916-1950

Indiana Louisiana Nevada vitals 1862-1923Minnesota Iowa cemeteriesMissousi,death yes,birth Mass. birth, death townsNevada Mont. 1989-98New Jersey Missouri newsp. deathsNew Mexico Minn. cemeteriesOklahoma Utah cemetery inventoryPennsylvania St. Louis Cath. Cemeteries

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Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; NY sp.wr.,author; Family moved Brooklyn,NY(Sept.21,1837); NY Times cricket reports(1856), Brooklyn Eagle cricket,BB ed.(1856-94), NY Herald, NY World sp wr(13yrs), NY Sun(6yrs), Sp. News, Sp. Life, Yankee Clipper(1858-?) Ball Players' Chronicle(1867-69). (Chadwick,continued), In 1896, NL voted him pension for life.Editor-in-chief of NL Spalding baseball guide until his death(1881-08), succeeded in that function by John B. Foster, who carried that job until his death('41) in Wash.DC. d. pneumonia

Phil. Spwr.; Phil. Sunday Mercury reporter. Succeeded Henry Chadwick as New York Clipper writer. Was 1st to compile NL ave. & 1st Philadelphia A's scorer. Toured England in 1874 with Phil. Athletics. Managed the Philadelphia team in 1876Chicago spwr.; Minnesota regiment in Civil War. St. Paul Pioneer Press managing ed. Chicago Tribune sp. ed., musical, drama ed. (1868-75) night ed. (1875-83); American Economist ed. (1898-1918). One of organizers of original Chicago BB team. d. of pneumonia in West Suburban HospitalChicago Tribune sp. ed.(1860's-70's) Helped popularized BB in Chicago. Used box scores. Along with William Hulbert, he formulated the plan to organize the National League. Was present at famous fire in 1871 on roof. Chicago Tribune reporter in 1860's. One of 1st to use box scores.

(Meacham) Delta Kappa Epsilon. Prepared Phillips Academy, Andover; A. C., 1867. Tutor Christian College, Indiana, 1868; reporter and proof reader Times and Tribune, Chicago, Illinois, 1869-71; private secretary to Mayor Medill, 1871-72; editor at the Rutland Herald, 1874; reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Rutland Herald, 1874;(Meacham) reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Tribune, 1875-78. Private in the Vermont Regiment and 1st Lieutenant of the New York Highlanders, 1862-65. Son of Rev. James and Mary F.

NY spwr.; Started in 1870 with Rockland County Journal, Nyack, NY; NY Times, NY Tribune, NY World, NY Mail, NY Express, official scorer for the Mutual club; NY Clipper ed. (30 yrs.), succeeded Al Wright as editor, d. Apoplexy, heart disease at homeCincinnati & New York sports writer; Cincinnati Enquirer sp.ed.(1874-81), Helped found Amer. Ass. & secured a Cinc. franchise in it(Nov.,1881),Cincinnati Commercial Gazette('81-87), NY Daily(1887), served as Reds Secretary / buss. man. through 1886.(Caylor,continued), Carthage,MO newspaper(1888), The Sporting News(NY,ed. - 1889-1890), NY Herald(Baseball ed. 1892-1897,death). Official scorer for NY Giants. Also managed Cincinnati(AA,1885-86) & NYMetropolitans(AA,1887).(Caylor,continued),Accepted administrative job with NY Metropolitans(1886).Accepted job as on-field manager of team(June,1886-end of season).Team was in 7th & he couldn't improve team's standing by season's end.Famed for caustic sarcastic, humor & wit.(Caylor,continued), d. developed tubercular tumors in his throat, resigned his post at the Herald,NY in Sept.,'97, went to Winona,MN to recuperate 6 weeks before his death, where they burst & killed him by asphyxia.Boston sports writer; former ML 1B(1872-78,84), Founded Boston Referee(1885), Boston Globe spwr. & sp.ed.(1888-1917,Feb.7, death). President: New England L. : 24 yrs. Buried: Old Calvary Cemetery, Roslindale, MA

Chicago spwr.; Chicago Tribune sp. ed., Chicago Inter-Ocean (1890's); Conceived The Racing Form, Players Brotherhood secretaryPittsburgh sports writer,Pirates scorekeeper; Pitts. Times(1880-?),Pitts. Post(promoted to sp.ed 1890-1905, Pitts. Gazette('05-12), Moreland News Bureau('13-14),Pittsburgh Leader,Pittsburgh official scorer(1893-1932). Began sp. dept. in early newspapers.NY sp. wr.; Studied civil engineering at MIT for 2 yrs.,ML best 2nd baseman(1880-90), managed Buffalo in NL(1879-80) & Cincinnati(U,1884). Old Atlantic League Pres.(1895), New York Press sp.wr.(1890-98), NY Journal(1898-1925).

(Crane,continued), one of McGraw's closest friends, fought with him often.Made all road trips with Giants. Arguably most beloved sp.wr.of his day. d. developed pneumonia during Giants western swing.Arrived home in Bronx, went right to bed,couldn't rally.(Crane,continued), When Tim Murnane of Boston died Feb.7,1917, Crane became the new "Dean of Sports Writers". Knew many things due to his close proximity to McGraw, never was known to take advantage of it to "scoop" rival writers.Phil. sportswriter; Was editor-in-chief of Reach Official American League Base Ball Guide(1902-1926,Feb.12, death); Died the day after the manuscript of the 1925 Reach Guide was completed.(Richter,continued), drew up National Agreement(1883), helped place Phil Club in AA(1882), Helped place Phil club in NL(1883),helped assimilate AA into NL(1891), drew up Millenium Plan which ended BB war.Richly deserves BB Hall of Fame.Whole existence-BB (Richter,cont.),For a long lifetime of service to BB at its highest levels,I nominate him for the Taylor Spink Award. His every waking moment was happily devoted to BB. In Apr. '46, he & 11 others were elected to H of F as sp. writers( Honor Rolls).(Richter,continued) In 1880, he started the 1st sports dept. ever in a newspaper, The Public Ledger. Mr. Richter was offered the Presidency of the National League in 1907. He declined due to his obligations to the AL Reach Guide & his own Sporting Life. (Richter,continued) For many years, he ws one of the official scorers for the World's Series games, sharing the honor with JG Taylor Spink, publisher of the Sporting News.(Richter,continued) He founded Sporting Life in 1883, a weekly baseball paper, which became a great force in BB until he disposed of it in 1917, during the War. The motto of his publication, "Devoted to the Baseball Men and Measures, With Malice Toward None and Charity for All," sums up the character of Mr. Richter.

(Richter,continued) He was a columnist for Sporting News from Dec.8, 1921 - Sept., 1925. His column, Casual Comment was often addressed to administrative matters. He was always at the top of the BB world, albeit behind the scenes, working for the betterment of the game he loved so much. His every waking hour was devoted to BB.St. Louis, Sp. N. Publisher; His family were from Quebec, Canada. After the Civil War, the family moved to Chicago, IL. In 1875, Al moved to St. Louis, and became a great fan of the St. Louis Stockings. Sp. ed. of 3 papers; Globe-Democrat, Missouri Republican, Post-Dispatch. Founded The Sporting News on March 17, 1886-95(Spink, continued) 1st Pres. Of western League, started a number of ball clubs & leagues before launching Sporting News. Authored several books. Ed. Reach Guide '88. Press agent of Chris Von der Ahe, interested him in BB. Called brother Charles to St. Louis from S. Dakota to be bus. man. of Sp. N.

SF,Chi.; San Francisco Chronicle spwr. (1886-?), New Zealand Herald (1870-?), San Francisco Examiner (1888-1914), Chicago Examiner (2 yrs.), baseball & boxing authority. Chicago American sp.ed. Wrote "Kings of the Queensberry Realm." A foremost boxing authority. Covered major boxing bouts of his time. (Naughton, continued) d. at home from heart disease aggravated by acute indigestion NYC spwr.; Grad. City College, 1876. NY Sun (1885-?) Regarded Ruth greatest player, McGraw, greatest manager, Mathewson, greatest pitcher.NY sp. wr.; NY Morning World, NY World (1893-13). d. complications involving both lungs and heart, occasioned by a chill he contracted ea NY, Kansas City spwr.; Grad.Lafayette College, Easton,PA (1878); Kansas City Star, Arrived NYC (1888), NY Herald, NY Press (1893),NY Sun (1900-16), NY Herald ('16-24), Herald-Tribune ('24-May,'30,death); Acknowledged expert on baseball, football & billiards.St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1892-95), Sporting News ed.(1895-1906), Moved Cinc.('12), serving as secretary to August Herrmann, chairman of National Commission,1906-1921), until Landis became Commissioner. Retired on pension. d. Heart disease after long illness.(Flanner, continued) South Dakota homesteader. Finished law apprenticeship, served as first state'sattorney for Lawrence County. In 1892, after 16 yrs at the bar, left South Dakota, for St. Louis, Mo. Named sp. Ed. Of St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Joined Sporting news 3 yrs. later.Detroit, New York sp. ed.: NY Press(1914), Had been sports writer for NY newspapers, and then turned to boxing referee. Had refereed the Jack Sharkey/Max Schmeling fight. He voted for Schmeling and was much criticized for it. He died a yr. later.

(Mathison, continued) d. At home in Brooklyn, NY. He had been in ill health since the death of his wife a year before. Had been best known for his work with the Evening Mail. Cincinnati sp.ed.; Cinc. Enquirer sp. ed. (1880-1900), trained many of the early 19th century sports writers while a sp. ed at Enquirer. Heavily into boxing. Devestating stroke Feb.25, 1900, at 290 lbs. ended his work. When Harry died, he was replaced by Ren Mulford. Burial: Forest Cemetary, Circleville, OH (Weldon, continued) Was Chris Von Ahe's secretery until Oct. 22, 1886, then became secretery of the Cincinnati baseball team under Mr. Stern.

Chicago sp.wr.; US Navy; Chicago Sunday Times reporter(1889-1890), San Francisco Examiner sp.wr.(1890), NY Evening Journal(1898-99), Phil. North American(1899-1905), Chicago Tribune('06-08), Chicago Examiner('08-17), Chicago Herald & Examiner('18-21). (Dryden, continued), He was one of the 1st, most popular & most influential baseball writers who ever lived. Humorist influenced a generation of following baseball writers. Suffered devastating stoke('21) left him disabled. Awarded Spink award('65). Philadelphia Inquirer Sp. ed.; 25% owner of Phil. Athletics from 1901 until fall 1912, sold his shares to Connie Mack. Had good knowlege of many sports. Phil. Press Secretery of Athletics (1905) d. at home, was ill for some months, interred at West Laurel Hill Cemetery, Cincinnati sports writer; Cincinnati Post editor, When Henry Weldon died in 1890's, Ren replaced him on the Cinc. Enquirer. Sporting Life's Cincinnati's correspondent, around 1911. d. acute intestinal obstruction, buried Spring Grove Cemetery, Cincinnati, OH(Zuber, continued) After several years on the Cincinnati Enquirer, Ren quit to work for an advertising agency till his death.

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Cleveland sports writer; Started on Painesville Telegraph(1880-?),Sporting Life correspondent(1897), Cleveland Press sp. ed.(20 yrs).(also wrote column "Little Old Man", loved for it's intimate feel. Also Cleveland Leader('11),World, Herald, News. Founded(Bates, continued), Madison News('18-27), Lake County Republican Herald associate editor('27- 30,death). He espoused writing brevity, accuracy and warmth. He called many famous people friend. Graduated Madison Seminary, Madison Kiwanis sec.many yrs.Boston sports writer; Grad. Roxbury Latin Sch.(1877), Harvard College(1881), Boston U. Law Sch.(1884); Boston Herald(1884-1907, sp.ed.1884-1901), Secretary of New England Baseball League, became insurance man(1915), (Morse, continued) Wrote a history of Baseball(Sphere & Ash,1888).Helped launch Baseball Magazine('08) & was one of its' Presidents & editors 'til 1912. Boston Traveler( ?-37, death).Managed Boston Nationals(U,1884). D. Heart attack at home, cremated.

Boston sports writer; Boston Post reporter(1889-1891), Boston Journal sp.ed.(1891-06,Oct.), Boston Herald sp.ed.('06-11), Boston Globe('11-33)(sp.ed.'14-33)(Emeritus,'33-40).Pitts. spwr. for many years, NL umpire,1902; (Sporting News, Jan.1,1914, death roll of 1913; d. at home of nervous breakdown.NY spwr.; editor of The American Magazine; at least as early as 1908; ed. of McClure's. Boston spwr.; Started as a telegrapher in Boston (1882), Pittsburgh, Buffalo. Boston Globe telegrapher (1890-92), copy desk ('92-13), spwr. (1913-38). (Hanna, continued) m. Eva A. Baker on Dec. 25,1884 in Maryville,Nodaway,MO; d. Stricken with stroke(apoplexy) May 24,1930, was taken to Army cadet hospital for 3 wks, and transferred to Idylease sanitarium,Newfoundland,NJ at his wishes to be near his(Hanna, continued), brother, Thomas K. Hanna. His style was noted for his eschewing of slang such as "swat,pill,horsehide",etc. His choice of words were those less chosen,terse,precise,kind. His style was succinct, his knowledge encyclopedic.Wash.DC free-lance sp. wr.; Sporting Life; around 1910-20, at least Sporting News until 1931; Towards the end of his life, he did government work as a correspondent for the State Dept..Pittsburgh sp.wr;Pitts. Post;BB statistician,wrote baseball history(Balldom,'14);Managed Canton in Tri-State League(1890)Original member BWAA('08),representing Pittsburgh.Involved with Louisville club(1890's);Organized Inter-State minor League(fall,1894).

NY spwr.; Norwalk HS, OH; st. ed.; Clev. Press gen. rep. & state ed., Clev. Leader sp.ed.(?-1888), Arrived NYC (1896), NY Evening Telegraph sp.ed. & city ed.(1896-11), NY Journal, NY Herald, NY Sun (1920-31), Consolidated Press Ass. (1918-20),(Foster) Credited with promoting Army Navy game at the Polo Grounds into national interest. Years on BB 's rules committee. Considered an authority on BB law, rules, admin. Credited with answering 500,000 questions on BB rules,(Foster) laws, and various phases of BB. Wrote digest of rules for the French. Was named official authority for rules for Japan. Official scorer at Polo Grounds. Couldn't attend games after '32, due to right side paralyzed. Followed BB via radio,papers.

(Foster) Giants' Secretary & business manager(Jan. 6, '13-1919, Dec. 4);Father:Francis Boardman:Mother;Flora Ann Beebe. Paralyzed on his right side his last 9 yrs., Buried: funeral services in NYC, cremated, ashes buried Rock Hill Cemetery, Foxboro, MA(Foster,continued), Editor-in-Chief of Spalding Official NL Base Ball Guide (1908-1941).Foster was a close second to his friend F. Richter in the baseball accomplishments he was able to achieve in a long BB lifetime.Like Richter, a must for Spink Award.(Foster, continued) When John was 18, for his 1st job, he was appointed the Postmaster of his village of Norwalk, OH. After the next election, he was left without a job, and went to work for the Cleveland Press. Wash. sp. wr.; Wash. Evening Star, Wash. Post, Wash. Sunday Herald (1894-?) Boston Herald. Denver, CO sp.ed.; Raised in Chicago,IL, Managed boxers & promoted prize fights, Chicago White Stockings GM (1886), Arrived Denver,CO in 1883, at age of 20 & stayed all his life. Became sports columnist for Denver Post within weeks of(Floto, continued) arriving in Denver. As boxing manager, he guided Bob Fitzsimmons and Jack Dempsey. As sports editor, he guided Gene Fowler and Damon Runyon. Was regarded as a Dean of Sports Writers. Colorful, knew famous sp. figures, Ruth, McGraw.(Floto) since last Sept., when stricken with epilepsy. Organiz. Otto Floto dog and pony show, out of which grew Selis-Gloto circus.Huge fight fan, saw most heavy-weight cham. fights. Schooled at Jesuit inst. in Dayton, OH. Kansas City, MO sp.ed. 2 yrs.

Chicago sp.wr.; Hamilton Spectator(Ontario) reporter, 1881, Sporting Journal(1888-1890), Chicago Times reporter, sp.ed.(1891-94), San Francisco Chronicle sp.ed.(1895), New Orleans Item(1896), Lake County Times man.ed.(1900-05), d. after 6 wk. illness(Keough, continued) Chicago Tribune sp. wr. & columnist (1905-12). While at The Chicago Tribune, he started and made famous The Wake of the News from 1905-12. It's thought to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Worked newspapers 31 yrs.NY spwr.; Covered amateur athletes, was credited with createding All-America FB team, appearing for the 1swt time in 1889; authored books on sports, contributed to many outdoor publications, as free lance writer.Pittsburgh spwr.; Raised Pittsburgh in his early youth. Pittsburgh Chronicle Telegraph sp. ed.,(1885-06) Also covered boxing under pen name Jim Jab. Began medical studies '06, U. of Pittsburgh, '10 medical degree. Practiced medicine into his 80's. Chicago spwr.; Chicago Record (1890-1900) covered many sports. Grad. Purdue U. 1887, did newspaper work from 1887, moved Chicago June, 1890, moved quickly from cub to star reporter. In '93, collaborated with illustrator partner John McCutcheon at Chicago Morning News on editorial page columns(Ade, continued) describing Columbian Exposition, then he began his regular column "Stories of the Streets and of the Town". Paper became the Record. Began "fables in slang" in 1897. The Record published 8 collections of his columns. Left jornalism in 1900, did plays, musicals, screenplays. Was acknowleged as great master humorist. NY sports writer; arrived NYC(1889), NY Sun(1889-95), NY Recorder(1895-1901), NY Herald ass. sp.ed.('01-20), NY Times day assistant to sp.ed.(March 5,'22-39).

Det.,Toledo, Cinc. sportswriter; Toledo, OH, Cincinnati, Detroit Free Press, city ed. & sp. ed., Detroit Journal, sp. ed, Detroit News, sp. ed.,

Chicago writer; Political cartoonist created Mr. Dooley, saloon owner, wry observations on issues entertained readers for 30 yrs. His cartoons are collected in book forms. Chicago Daily News editorials & sports(1884-88), Chicago Times('1888-89)Dunne, continued), as political reporter,ed.wr. ,city ed.,Chicago Tribune reporter,ed.Sunday ed., Chicago Herald reporter(1890), Chicago Evening Post ed. page(1892), Chicago Journal managing ed.(1897-00), NYC Harper's Weekly/collier's Weekly('00-02),Dunne,continued),NY Morning Telegraph('02-04),American Magazine wrote dialect essays & monthly ed. In the Interpreter's House('06-13),Collier's Weekly political commentary('13-15,editor-in-chief '17-19).Payne Whitney died('24) & gave $500K to Dunne), When Payne Whitney died in 1924, he bequeathed $500,000. to Dunne, far more than enough to enable Dunne to live the rest of his life in high lavish fashion without need of further work. d. throat cancer hemorrhaging after long battle.St. Louis, Chicago sp. ed.; St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp. ed., Chicago Tribune sp. ed.(?-36). Called Judge due to his officiating at many race tracks in the US & Canada.Pittsburgh sp. wr.; Pittsburgh Post('03-27), Pittsburgh Post-Gazette('27-46). Never wrote an unkind word about a player, extremely popular sp.wr. around league. Pittsburgh Press sp. ed.(1893-1903),Pirates secretary('03-12,fall),Phil. Phillies owner & President('13).On Jan.15,'13,he headed a group that included his cousin,William F. Baker & Governor Tener of Penn. that bought the Phillies.Locke named Pres.,d. '13.

Chicago sp. ed.; Chicago Times sp. ed. in the early 1890's, Chicago Chronicle sp. ed., Chicago American sp. ed. (1907-1927), Los Angeles sp. ed.; Moved to California around 1927 for his health. Had been a well-known boxing/wrestling referee. (Smith, continued) Refereed many memorable fights. As a writer, he specialized in boxing/wrestling with occasional incursions into racing. d. In Hollywood Hospital, CA, from a paralytic stroke. Refereed Jack Johnson/Jim Flynn, Arthur Pelkey/LutherMCCarthy, both Totch/Hackenschmidt wr. matches, Benny Leonard/Charley White.St. Louis spwr. (1880's-1929); Sporting News column, "Back of Home Plate", Dec. 5, 1918 - 1929, Apr. 18; Started on St. Louis Globe-Democrat(1880's), Post-Dispatch(1896-?), The Republic, Globe-Democrat. Missouri Committee on Public Utility Information manager,1921-.

(Sheridan) While on Committee, he blew the whistle on some corrupt practices, and then tendered his resignation. Shortly thereafter he suffered nervous disorders, and received profess. care in sanitarium. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetey., St. Louis, MO(Sheridan, cont.) Sherry's column for Sporting News "Back of Home Plate", 1917-29, gained for him national respect as a baseball writer. He also wrote with authority on boxing, golf, and most sports. Personally, I suspect that his physical problems, (Sheridan) which started soon after he exposed government corruption,was a result of sabotage. I also suspect his so-called "suicide" may have been unsuspected homicide. He was found hanging in his room at Alexian Brothers Hospital, by a bathrobe cord.

NY sp.ed; NY Evening Post(1897-03), NY Tribune('04-16), NY World sp.ed.('16-31), NY World Telegram for 6 months, NY Herald Tribune('31-38). Introduced all-star FB games to NY, started the Herald-Tribune FB school. d. complications pneumonia, pleurisyChicago sports writer; Born Sweden, came to US @ 1883, worked way through Univ. of Chicago as newspaper correspondent, graduated in 1896. 20 yrs. sp. ed. Chicago Record-Herald, During war, did govern. work, Washington Herald('18-23). d. Pleurisy

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( Axelson, cont.),wrote bio. of White Sox owner Charles Comiskey(Commy,1919),Chicago Daily Journal (1923-26). He was also a member of the Masons,University Club,White Paper Club,National Press Club,original member Baseball Writers Association('08).Cinc.. Washington sp. wr.; Cincinnati Commercial Gazette sp.ed. (1890's), Pres. Amer. Ass. (Western League, Jan. 1, 1904 - Mar., 1905), Pres. Toledo BB club ('05-06), Washington Post, Washington Star (1911-17). d. 4 yrs. battle against softening of the brain.Baltimore, New York, Boston sports writer; Baltimore sp. wr.(1890's), New York Press sp. ed.(@1911-1916), Pres. of Newark BB club(International League), Newark BB team (Federal League) grounds manager (1916-24), AL eastern representative (NYC).(Price,continued) Secretary of Boston Red Sox(Jan., 1924 - 1929,Jan.29,death). Close friend of Ban Johnson. d. suicide, cut his throat with a razor at Fenway Park, when no one was there due to illness, note in pocket to wife.

Louisville, KY sp.ed.; Louisville Courier-Journal sp.ed. for 22 yrs. Known as a turf writer.

Boston sports writer,editor; Boston News cub reporter (?-1894), Boston Journal reporter (1894-00), Boston Herald copy desk head (1902-07), Boston Journal sp.ed. (1907-12), Boston Braves secretery (1912-15), Boston Globe news ed. (1925-45).Boston sports writer; Boston Journal(1890-?), Boston Record, Boston Braves Secretary('09-11), Boston Post, Pittsburgh Pirates secretary('16-17), Boston American, Boston GlobeBrooklyn spwr. & sp. ed. ; Brooklyn Eagle (1885-1930),sp.ed. (1896-30). Official scorer of Brookly home games for 30 yrs. d. Jewish Hosp. of cancer. Had been ill several months and hoarse in throat.Chi. sp wr.;Dubuque,IA reporter(1884-?),Chicago Mail(1894-1895),Chicago Times-Herald(1895-?),Chicago Journal((1899-'04),Detroit Tribune,Cleveland News('05-12),Louisville Herald, Chicago Evening Post,Chicago Tribune(March 3,1918-44,death).Man.ed.(1899-18).

NY sp. wr; Family moved NYC(1882); New York Sun reporter,Subsequently worked as reporter, feature writer, columnist, city ed.(NY Morning Telegraph, New York World, NY Press, New York Times copy reader('08-13). Novelist, short stories, serials, song-writer

St. Louis sp.wr.; Schenectady,NY(1890's), Joplin,MO 2 papers ed. (News-Herald & Globe), Columbus(OH) Sun man. ed.('08-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(1910), St. Louis Republic( '10-16), Daily Oklahoma('16-19,My.), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(My.6,1919-41,death)Phil. Times(?-02), Phil. Phillies secretary & Treasurer (Dec. 1, 1904 - Jan. 25, 1909), NL secretary to President John H. Tener (Dec. 12, 1913 -16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('11-16, at least0), Lafayette College graduate manager of athletics ('21-46, retired).Detroit sp. wr; Detroit Free Press sports editor(1901-10),Washington Post sports editor('10-13),Detroit News-Tribune sp. ed.(1913-21) moved California('21),worked for various newspapers there. 1st President of Baseball Writers Ass. of America(1908-1919).San Antonio,TX spwr.; St. Mary College, Rpt, San Antonio Express, 1892: rpt and news ed, San antonio Light, 1894-06: Gazette, 1906-08; ed, Laredo Record, 1915; San Antonio corr bureau, Austin (Tex) Amer, 1916; ed, Eagle Pass Guide, 1918-21. W S: (Mosebach, continued) recruiting service: Finance Dept. Q M D, USA. MEM: Tex Edl Assn. San Antonio Express sp. ed. And later a feature writer. San Antonio, Tex. Sp. Ed., San Antonio (Tex) Express, Feb, 1924-41).Cincinnati sports writer; In 1905, Jack replaced Charles Webb Murphy on the Cincinnati Enquirer as sports writer and served there for more than 30 yrs.Cleveland sports writer, AL service bureau; Cleveland recorder sp.ed.(1898-1901,Apr.), Cleveland Plain Dealer sp.ed.(July 29,'01-'28,Feb.1), Amer. League service bureau, Chicago(Feb.1,'28-42,Feb.1).Boston spwr.; Boston Brotherhood (Pl. L) catcher, Boston Nationals, St. Louis Browns; Sp.-Amer. War 9th Reg., WWI, Boston American BB writer, sp.ed.('04), Boston Journal. d. fell fr. 3rd floor window at his lodging house, crippled w/ arthritis.

Detroit spwr.; Detroit Journal (1903-12); Milwaukee Sentinal (1913-16), Detroit auto trade papers. Original founding member of BWAA. d. heart disease in a private hosp. after a month's illness. Wash.DC government printing office employee d. Hit by car running liquor, driven by 2 blacks, accidentPhil. spwr; Arriv. Philly in 1879, grad. Central H;. Phil. Times rep.(1891-1909), Phil. Press, Munsey's Evening Times('09-13), Phil. Evening Telegraph BB ed. ('13-17). Sporting News correspond.('09-17). d. typhoid-pneumonia, ill only a week.Cinc. spwr; Started on Cincinnati Enquirer(1897-08), as police reporter, then assessment clerk on city pay roll. Cincinnati Times-Star feature writer('12-25), succeeded Bill Phelon as BB writer in Aug.,'25 until retirement('53,Sept.) Retired from BB writing 2 yrs. before that. d. Heart attackChi. NY,Cincinnati sports writer/editor; Chi. Daily News (1888-1905, Oct.), Chi. Daily Journal (Oct.'05-08), Chi. Tribune (1908-10), NY Morning Telegraph (1910), Cincinnati Times-Star sp.ed. (spring,'10-25) .Easily most colorful eccentric sportswriter ever lived. Rube Waddell of BWAA.A great book should be written about him. As a writer, Bill was one of the best, and one of the most prolific. He was an associate editor of Baseball Magazine (March, 1913 - November, 1924). He had replaced Jake Morse (Boston sp.wr.), who himself had encyclopedic BB knowledgeof all things baseball. Also was Cincinnati correspondent for theSporting News. From 1889-1915, had scored over 3,500 ballgames. Made all road trips with Reds. Total home team rooter. Died after 3 days of Bright's disease. As a complete authority ofbaseball, he lived the game. Had been famous amateur ballplayer & boxer, was an actor, wrote for the stage, studied Indian lore, wrote baseball poetry, was twice married with a son; Contributed to Weekly BB Guide,Chicago BB News, Herald Examiner, NY World,Cinc. spwr; After Charles was dismissed by Cinc. owner Taft in March, 1910, he worked as press agent for the Cinc. Chamber of Commerce, Cinc. BB club, theaters and other institutions, off & on until his death. Never wrote BB again. Phil.,NY,Cle sports writer; Phil record(1887-91), Sporting News(1888-91), bank clerk(1891-1899),Aderondacks, organizer Phil.Symphony Orchestra('03-05),NY Press BB ed.('07-11), Eastern League,secretary('11-?),Wash. & Lee University Pres. rep.

(Lanigan,continued), farmed on the Hudson River, Cleveland Leader BB ed. ('16-?), Syracuse Stars Press rep('20-?), International League information director,NYC('35-42), Baseball's Hall of Fame historian at Cooperstown('46-59). (Lanigan,continued), Boston American('15-19), NY Daily News('19-22), Hearst Service night ed. & make-up ed., Syracuse American in charge of copy desk, NY American assistant night ed.(?-28.at least).Chicago sp.wr.; Graduated University of Illinois (1895), began with Chicago Tribune, Chicago Journal, Chicago Evening American.Phil. sportswriter; Phil evening Item(police reporter(1895-1900),Phil. Times sp.ed.(('00-02),Phil. Public Ledger sp.wr.('02-19),BR Keith's Theater('14-20,at least), Phil. Booking Agency,PR office('33-43),Phil. corn Exchange National Bank&Trust co.('43-?)Detroit spwr.; cub reporter Ypsilanti (MI), Detroit Journal theatrical editor(12 yrs.), Cleveland Press state ed., NY Herald financial ed., Detroit Free Press city ed., Detroit TimesNYC spwr.; Minneapolis Tribune, NY Evening Telegram, NY Herald, NY Evening Mail, NY Morning Telegraph, NY Globe('12) & others. Stricken with paralysis in May, & confined to home ever since. Liebler & Co. press reporter. d. strokePhiladelphia sp. wr.; managed some boxers, Philadelphia Bulletin sp. ed.(1889-1914), worked at some hotels d. at Phil. nursing homeBost. NY spwr.; Boston Transscript sp.ed., NY Evening Post sp. ed., NY Times spwr. ('28-48)

Chi. & NY spwr; Cincinnati Enquirer spwr(1889-93), Chicago Record(1896-97), Chicago Tribune spwr(1897-1907), Chicago Herald spwr(1907-12), Chicago Herald and Examiner(1913-19), New York Mail spwr(1919-21), Liberty Weekly ass. ed.(Magazine)(1923-28),(Fullerton, continued), Philadelphia Inquirer, Columbus Dispatch(OH) columnist, Jack Wheeler's Bell Syndicate. Instrumental in uncovering the "Black Sox Scandal". Help found the Baseball Writer's Ass. in 1908-09. (Fullerton, continued) Hugh conducted The Wake of the News from June 9, 1912 - June, 1913. After death of Hugh Keough, its originator Hugh wrote it until Ring Lardner took it over. It's believed to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US.

New York sports writer; Syracuse Standard(1892-?),New York Sun('00-13), New York Associated Press('13-23), US LawnTennis Ass. Exec. Sec.('23-42), World Almanac, Spalding Baseball Guide('14-17), Phil., St. Louis sp. cartoonist, spwr; Stud. Pitts. Art Sch., Penn. Acad. Fine Arts, Art Students League in NY. NY American art dept. (1898-?), Phil. North Amer. art dept., Managed arts dept. of Pittsburgh Press & Pittsburgh Dispatch,(Wolfe, continued) Phil. Inquirer sp. cartoonist/feature wr.(1907-22). Began as sports cartoonist, evolved into a cartoonist/ sports writer. His sports cartoons appeared on the covers of The Sp. News many years. Retired newspaper work '29. Free-lanced(Wolfe, continued) Mr. Wolfe free-lanced after 1929, his work appearing in Nation's business, Liberty, sporting News, Saturday Evening Post, among many others. For a time, he wrote column for Phil. Daily News. He always used his pen name, Jim Nasium.St. Louis sp. wr. & sp. ed.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1900-02). St. Louis Globe-Democrat (1902-06), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1906-46), He retired as sp. ed. in '46, but continued his column, "Wray's Column", which he had started in '08, until August, '55

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St. Louis sp. ed.; St. Louis Republic's sp. ed. (1894- 19), Texas oil companies' PR ('19-24), St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.wr.('24-40, retirement), specialized horse racing / baseball. d. heart disease. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOBrooklyn spwr. & sp. ed.; Started as errand boy on the Brooklyn Times in 1889. He evolved throught copy boy in ed. dept. to religious ed., general reporter, baseball writer (1909), and finally sp. ed. Brooklyn Times-Union (1898-38).Chicago spwr.; Chicago U.(1895-97), Chicago Times-Herald(1895-98), Chicago Record sp.ed.(1898-1901), Chicago Herald reporter(1901), Chicago Tribune('01-03), Chicago Tribune sp.ed.(1909-20). Woodruff inherited the sports column, In the Wake of the

(Woodruff) News, at Chicago Tribune, fr. Ring Lardner Nov.25, 1919.This renowned sports column had hosted such writers as Hugh Fullerton, Hugh Keough, Lardner('13-19). When Woodruff died, the column passed to Arch Ward('37-55), who held it to his death.Salt Lake Tribune(UT) sp.ed.,VP of Pioneer League,which he helped organize. Helped bring Salt Lake City into the Pacific Coast League('15). When team moved Hollywood('25),he went as ass. sec.Returned to Tribune('27). Worked on papers in Butte,Helena,MT.St. Louis spwr./sp. ed.; Grad. St.Louis U.; Ass. sp.ed.St. Louis Post-Dispatch ('05-07); St. Louis Star sp.ed. ('07 to 25). Original founding member of BWAA. d. acute indigestion, after repeated attacks acute indigest.. Bur: Calvary Cem., St. Louis, MOKentucky, NYC sp. wr.; (KY) Journal,World ,Mirror; NY Morning World sp. ed. Moved NYC around 1906. NY Tribune sp. ed. (1917). d. found dead in bed in his room in Brooklyn,NY. Brooklyn sp. ed.; Brooklyn Standard-Union sp. ed. (1900-26), official scorer of Brooklyn BB team, Lodge 22 of the Elks, member of Press club. d. At home, when cold turned into pneumonia within a weekSt. Louis spwr; Phil. Public Ledger rep.,Sporting News(1895-96),St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.ed. & sp. wr.(1897),St. Louis Star(1898), St. Louis Star Chronicle(?-07), St. Louis Times('07-11),Sp. & Stage('12),World Sporting('14). PR manager(Hot Springs,AR),Boston spwr.; Graduated Boston English HS, joined Boston Globe sp. staff as spwr., also specialized in FB. Founding member BWAA. - '08. d. Hahnemann Hosp. SF,LA,NY sp. wr.; Was one of best baseball storytellers of his age. He was called the greatest baseball writer by several of his peers. d. chronic nephritis at Philadelphia Hosp., Was on East Coast on business

NY spwr., humorist; Paducah Evening News reporter(1892), by age 19, he had been made managing ed; Louisville Evening Post(1898-), NY Evening Sun, NY & Evening & Sunday World(--), This job made Irvin the highest paid staff reporter in US. (Cobb, continued) Paducah Democrat managing ed. (1901), NY Evening News reporter(1904), NY & Evening & Sunday World feature writer(1904), Saturday Evening Post(1911), Wrote his autobiography, Exit Laughing, at end of his life. Sold well. But Cobb's career lasted only a brief decade or two. After the crash of 1929 he became increasingly conservative in politics and philosophy. As he became more conservative, his humor became increasingly forced and to compensate he posed more and more as

(Cobb, continued) the professional Southerner. Always doubtful of his own abilities as writer and thinker, he was mortally wounded by the criticism of such elite critics as H. L. Mencken who pushed him into a low-brow niche in American culture. Forcing (Cobb, continued) himself to write to his "low-brow audience" Cobb lost faith in himself and his value. By the end of the thirties, for whatever reason, America had moved beyond the contributions to society of Irvin Cobb.(Cobb,continued) Associate of celebrities of all kinds for two decades, he died in NYC virtually forgotten, having outlived the world he grew up in and which appreciated him. Ill and bitter he wrote in (Cobb, continued) his last days his autobiography, Exit Laughing, his best writing for years and a book which was well received by the critics and reading public. Ottowa spwr.; Started on Ottowa Journal, Toronto Daily Star, Toronto Mail, Toronto Empire. d. suddenly at his home in Toronto.

NY sp.ed.; reporter for Publishers' Press, Scripps-McRae League, United Press; NY Associated Press('07-30) news editor of eastern US. He also covered most national events such as political conv.,World Series, boxing, horse races, etc. Retired('30).(Brandebury,cont.), Rabid baseball fan, AL fan, Yankee fan. Joined NYC office of A.P. in 1907 and grad. from star reporter, city ed, day manager of the NY bureau & eventually news ed. of eastern US, 'till retirement in '30. Huge collector of stamps.

Newark, NJ spwr.; Newark Star composing room (1893-?), Newark Evening Star sp.ed. ( 1901-05), Newark Ledger sp.ed. (1905-11), , Newark News sp.ed., (1911-19). Retired from newspaper work to take up advertising work.

San Francisco spwr.; San Jose Mercury News (CA) editorial dept.; reporter/ sp. ed. Portland Evening Telegram (OR), San Francisco Morning Call; San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1906-25?), His column was entitles, "Sports Mirror". Brooklyn sp. ed.; The Brooklyn Eagle composing room(1892-97), Worked for father in commercial work, Morning Journal, Brooklyn Citizen sp. ed. ('03-45), He began to write baseball around 1900. Phil. spwr.; Phil. North American ('05?-16), Buffalo, NY Pierce-Arrow Automobile Co. (Nov.26, 1918-Aug.17, 1919), Chandler car co. (Oct.16, 1921-Aug.26, 1927), Cleveland White Motor Truck co., (Aug.26, 1927-Sept.27, 1931), Studebaker Motor Co. Launched Rockne car, sales manager (Sept. 27, 1931-32, retired)Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Kenyon College(1900); Cleveland Plain Dealer feature syndicate writer ('00-06), Cleveland Press sp.ed.('06-11), Chicago Newspaper Enterprise Ass.('11-?), ,Chicago Evening Post sp.ed.('17-29), Mann, continued) Chicago Daily News sp.ed.('29-36). Underwent abdominal surgery 3 weeks before his death, which led to pneumonia. D. Augustana Hosp.NY spwr.; NY Tribune, enlisted WWII, NY World, NY Evening Sun (7 yrs.), NY Evening Journal (1925-?), NY American, NY Journal American, Also worked for papers in Wash,DC & Syracuse, NY, NY Daily News('50-59, June). Wrote BB, FB, Boxing, Rowing.St. Louis sports writer; St. Louis Globe-Democrat sports writer(1896-1921)(sp.ed.-'08-21), NL scorer in St. Louis, Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOsportswriter; Bost. ('96-09),Phil. Evening Times ('09-39), Cleveland Leader(1914), Cleveland Plains Dealer, Phil. Press sp.ed. ('12-?), Phil. Inquirer sp.ed. ('21-27), Phil. Record sp.ed.('28-31), Camden Courier Post (NJ) reporter & columnist(?-'39). D. New Jersey State Hospital for 18 months before death. Health declined after death of wife in Dec., '38.

NY sp. ed.; Birmingham Age-Herald city ed. & sp.ed.(1899--05), NY Evening World sp. wr. & sp. ed.('06-31), Saturday Evening Post staff wr.('31-32). Also a playwright & soldier.

Baltimore, Washington, Brooklyn spwr.: Baltimore Sun (1899-03), Washington Times ('03-10, Brooklyn Daily Eagle (May 29, 1911-29). Left baseball to devote himself to crime & general law. (Rice, continued) Grad. Baltimore City College (1897), U. of Maryland law sch. (1899), Admitted Maryland bar '99, Member of NY State Crime Commission (1926-31).

St.Louis,Wash. sp.ed.: St. Louis public sch./private tutors. St. Louis Post-Dispatch ass. sp.ed. (1896-00), St. Louis Star, Fort Smith Times, Joplin Times, St. Louis Republic political writer (1906-?), Chicago Tribune (1912-14), (Cochran, continued) St. Louis Republic's Washington's bureau, (1914- 1919, Dec.5), was in charge of PR for Gov. Cox in 1920. d. Garfiedl Hosp. 2 weeks after operation. Had been ill for yr. Was Roman Catholic.Phil. spwr; Philadelphia Inquirer spwr(1898-1925) sp.ed.('25-58). In Phi. sports, he served as player, official, club owner & reporter. Close personal friend of Mack.

Chi.,St. Louis spwr.; Chicago Chronicle('03-05), Chicago Examiner('06), Chicago American('07),St. Louis Post-Dispatch('08-10), Chicago Tribune & NY Daily News sp.ed('11-26)3 yrs. in NY, Chicago Journal('27), Chicago Daily News('28-32), Pres. BWAA('29-30).(Crusinberry,continued), Later he was head of the Columbia Broadcasting System's news operations in Chicago. He specialized in baseball & golf. d. cerebral hemorrhageBost., Wash., Cle., Pitts., Phil., HI.; Boston Post (1910-?), Washington Times-Herald, Washington Post, Cleveland Leader, Pittsburgh Dispatch (1917). Then joined Honolulu Advertiser (1925-46)

Phil. spwr.: Grad. Temple U. (1898); Philadelphia Record(1911-13), Detroit Free Press (1901-02); Phil. Record ('02-?); Phil. Inquirer (motor boat regattas), Phil. Public Ledger ('17-22), In '27, Phil. Record, handicapping horses, under "Joe Finn". (Zeigler, continued) In 1922, moved Atlantic City, NJ, opened Margate dog kennels, bred racing greyhounds; In '25, opened pet show; Radio Station WPG 1st sports caster ( 1928, Atlantic City, NJ), NY sports writer; grad NYU('01); NY assistant sp. ed. NY Tribune, NY Sun, NY American, NY Journal-American. d. pneumoniaNY spwr.; NY Daily Mirror, editing & compiling the Sunday soccer columns. Also covered BB & hockey after arriving in US from his native England in 1912.NY, Brooklyn sp.ed.; NY World copy desk, NY Evening World nighty sp. ed. Brooklyn Eagle night sp. ed. d. heart attack on way to workSF & NY spwr.: Stanford U.; Spanish-Amer. War (1898), San Francisco Call (1900) boxing beat, SF Chronicle, SF Examiner reporter, SF Bulletin city ed./man. ed.; San Francisco Evening Post city ed., managing ed.: Arrived NYC 1914; NY Evening Journal boxing writer (1914), Began covering ML BB in '15 for NY Trib.

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(McGeehan, continued) NY Tribune spwr. then sp. ed.; WWI (1917), no overseas, trained infantrymen; NY Tribune man. ed. (1921), NY Herald sp.ed. with daily column (1922). In 1924, Herald merged with Tribune. NY Herald Tribune sp.ed. (1924-33). (McGeehan, continued) McGeehan is credited with originating the "Aw, Nuts" style of sports journalism. They didn't write to create heroes, blow athletes out of proportion into myths, legens, or cultural legends. They wrote to be critical but fair analysts. Fought to find the men under the hype. Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Leader sp.ed.(1898-?), Pittsburgh Dispatch sp.ed., Pittsburgh Post sp.ed, Pittsburgh Sun sp.ed.('08-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph columnist('27-37), Pittsburgh Pirates publicity agent(Jan.'37-55).NY sports writer; grad Trinity College(Hartford,CT, '03), NY Evening Sun, NY Morning Sun, NY World, NY Herald Tribune, late 20's,sports columns North American Newspaper Alliance; World War I(115th Field Artillery),

Cleveland sp.ed.; Moved from Youngston,OH to Cleveland in '07. Cleveland News sp. ed. ('07-60). Liked to bet the horses, play golf. His son became known sports writer.Worked w/ Louis McHenry Howe,confidante of Pres. Roosevelt,radio interviews, on government issues. In 1934, he joined the staff of Will H. Hays as Washington representative. Hays was the President Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America.Chicago sp.wr.; Edu: Trinity College, Hartford, CT & U. of Minnesota; Chicago Tribune (1904-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Chronicle, Chicago Record-Herald at least Sept, 1908-12,14; Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Evening Post, column On the Sport Trail With Malcolm MacLean.(MacLean, continued) He traveled with the Cubs & Sox for yrs. Represented Chicago for 5 yrs. In BWAA. Ass. Sunday ed. of Chicago Tribune. Ill health promted him to leave his home in Western Springs, for Cal. last spring. At time of death, was with Los Angeles Evening Express staff. D. at home, Pasadena, CA

Atlanta, NY spwr.; edu: Wallace Univ. Sch. Nashville,TN; Vanderbilt U. ed. The American Golfer; Nashville Daily News; Atlanta Journal sp.ed (1902-05); Cleveland News (1905-07); Nashville Tennessean spwr.(1907-10); NY Evening Mail sp. columnist (1910-13)NY Tribune spwr. & syndicated columnist (1913-24), NY Herald Tribune (1924-54). Wrote many books, and contributed to numerous magazines. The quinessential Southern Gentleman, Granny Rice was without a shadow of a doubt the most well-known & loved spwr. of his & perhaps all times. His autobiography was, "The Tumult & the Shouting: My Life in Sport", 1954. Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, NY

Philadelphia sports writer; Cincinnati Times-Star assistant to Charles Zuber(1895-1905), Phil. North American sports writer 1905-25, Phil. Inquirer baseball editor & sports editor until his stroke September 17, 1940. Helped break the '19 scandal.spwr; Worked for 17 newspapers in his career, starting in 1898. Warren(PA) Democrat, Times, Mirror, 1899-1902; McKeesport Herald, 1902; Pittsburgh Post, News, 1902; Youngstown Vindicator, 1902-06; Clev Plain dealer, 1907-09; Penton Pub Co,1909;(Neily) Detroit Times, 1910; St. Louis Times sp.ed, 1910-13; St. Louis Feds buss. man. (FL,'14), Denver Times, Rocky Mts News, 1914-15; Chicago Herald, 1916.Last paper was Chicago American('16-33), early member of BBWAA,

(Neily, continued), buried on Aug.29,1948 in Holgate,OH; Father: Harry Neily Mother: Jennie Kahler; Chi.,Det. sports writer; Detroit Tribune('02-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Record-Herald(Sept.,'08-?), Detroit News, Detroit Athletic Club,secretary('12-53,death). Was active in founding the Boy Scouts of America. Ed./owner Det.Athletic Club News.St. Louis spwr; St. Louis U., Worked in bank 4 yrs. St. Louis Republic sp. ed.('01-08), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('08-14), St. Louis FL team traveling secretary(spr. '14-15, Dec)St. Louis Browns traveling secretery (Dec.'15 - 1936, Nov.14)(Johnson, continued) Peoria Baseball team, President(Feb.16,'37-43), St. L. Globe-Democrat-horse rac., wrest.('43-51). d. heart attackNY sp. wr.; Arrived NYC('03), His column "The Conning Tower" appeared in many papers, his radio program "Information Please"('38-48) was on TV for 13 weeks in '52. Chicago Journal('03-04), NY Evening Mail('04-14), NY Tribune('14-22), NY World('22-31).(Adams,continued), New York Herald-Tribune('31-37,March), NY Post('38-41). A quote of his service in World War I, "I didn't fight & I didn't shoot, but, General, how I did salute." He also wrote the "Tinkers to Evers to Chance" baseball ditty.

Philadelphia spwr.; Phil. Inquirer spwr., Phil. Bulletin 1906-1946, spwr. 1906-09, ass. city ed. 1909-23, city ed. 1923-38, sports ed. 1938-46. d. Pneumonia in North Shore Hospital.Pittsburgh sports writer; Davis replaced William Locke 1903 as sports ed. of Pittsburgh Press & also as Sporting News' Pitts. correspondent on his 21st birthday. Was also 33rd degree Mason,taught Bible class,original member Baseball Writers Ass.('09).

NJ / NY spwr.' Newark Daily Advertiser (1904-?), several more Newark newspapers until 1921, NY Sun sp. Wr. & copy ed. (1921-50), Newark Star-Ledger copy ed. of sports depart. (1950-52). He had a column in the Sunday sports section was "Down Memory Lane". d. at home after a long illness.Atlanta sports writer; Atlanta Georgian(Jan.'09-10), Kansas City Star('10-13), Atlanta Georgian('13-20), Atlanta Journal('20-50). Specialized in golf coverage in general & Bobby Jones in particular. Also covered careers of Alexa Stirling & Perry Adair.NY sp.wr.; Attended Harvard College ('05), Waterbury American (fall,'05-09, NY Times('09-20,24-25), NY Evening Post sp. ed.('20-24), NY Herald-Tribune sp. wr. ('26-41 non-baseball,42-45, NY Giants). Member of BB H of F committee(Jun.18,'45-Apr.3,'46,death)(Cross, continued) Expert in BB, FB, boxing, curing, figure-skating, polo, rowing, and most all else, except golf & tennis. Member FB writers ass. Detroit sp. ed. Detroit Free Press sp. ed.Started at least by 1911, perhaps earlier. Was with the Free Press, from at least, 1911-30; left newspaper work in '31, and joined an ad agency, last year worked for Detroit brokerage firm.Cle.,Cin,St. Louis spwr.: edu; Akron HS, OH; Buchtel Col, Akron, OH; Univ Sch. ,Cleveland, OH.; Akron Press('00-07), Cinc. Post sp.ed.('07-12), Cleveland Press ed.('12-15), Cinc. Post sp.ed.('15-21) (Rostock, continued) Cleveland Newspaper Enterprises Ass.('21-24), St. Louis Times gen. man. , Cinc. Post Buss. manager ('25-33, retired).

NY sp. wr.; NY World Boxing writer & biographer/ghost wr. for Jack Dempsey; Had a long-running column in NY World(Pardon My Glove). Was Director of Boxing Writers Ass. & it's Pres.('58). Dempsey's Press agent. Newspaper Enterprise Ass.Chicago & NY spwr.: edu; Lewis Inst, chicago, IL Editor, writer, Hearst Syndicates, Chicago American rep., editor, 1903-13, dramatic critic, 1914-16; Chicago Herald feature writer, Chicago Tribune, (1920-?), Newspaper Feature Service; (Lait, continued) NY American managing ed.; NY Mirror feature ed. 1924-25, Variety assoc ed. 1918-?)Conducted the Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June, 1919, after Ring Lardner left for NYC until Harvey Woodruff took it over in Nov., 1919. Oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Editor-in-Chief NY Daily Mirror, 1936-52.St. Louis spwr; Newark Star(NJ) spwr.('09-19), St. Louis Star BB ed., sp.ed.('19-28), St. Louis Post-Dispatch baseball writer('29-43), football expert. d. heart attack at home. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOChicago sp.wr. & ed.; Chicago Herald sp. ed,, Chicago Evening Post sp. ed.,Rocky Mountain News(Denver)managing ed.,Chicago Examiner ass. managing ed., Chicago Daily News sp. columnist.Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago American( July 3, 1900-39), Started as copy boy, made sp.ed. in '23-39. His column: Geiger Says. d. at home of cerebral hemorrhage after 3 wk. illness.

Phil. sportswriter; Phil. newspapers sportswriter(early 1910's), Phil. Evening Times('11),Phil. Bulletin('12-13); dog show judge,boxing, President of Phil. Arrows hockey team, Phil. Eagles, founded Penn Athletic Club, horse racingNY spwr.; Grad. Wesleyan U. (1913), WW1, NY Morning Telegraph (1915-18), Went to Hollywood in 1924 to head comedy motion picture studio. His column was "On the Side". Worked for King Features Syndicate, d. brain tumor(Durling, continued) Began his column in 1931, worked for LA Express, LA Daily News, LA Times, he joined King Features in 1939 as columnist. He worked for NY Evening Globe, and NY Herald.

St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Republic printer's devil, police reporter, baseball writer (1901-?), St. Louis Browns traveling sec. May, 1903-fall, 1904), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Fall, 1904-Spring, '05), New York Globe, Commercial Advertiser (1905-20), NY Journal writer (1920-45), which evolved into the Journal-American. (Mercer, continued) Covered NY Yankees from 1920-23, and then moved to boxing beat. Sid returned to covering the Yankees in 1931 and stayed with them until his death. D. Stricken with acute stomache problem, Sept., 1942, in Cleveland. Recovered, but Detroit sp. wr.;Providence Journal(RI)('03-06),Detroit Free Press(sp.wr.'06-10,sp. ed.'10-17),Detroit News('17-19),Ended his active coverage of baseball in 1917,when he joined Detroit News & went to France as war correspondent.Arrived home to advertising. Edited Detroit Athletic club magazine.

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Philadelphia Bulletin sp. ed. and drama critic; known in sports, theatrical and newspaper circles for more than 50 yrs. St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch sp. ed. (1903-?), NY Evening Journal editorial staff, 12 yrs. During WWI, he was member of the dept. of news censorship on committee of public Info. Cosmopolitan Motion Picture corp. production manager for 6 yrs. Wrote crime book, "From Cain to Capone". Chicago, Phil. sp.ed.; Chicago American('06-12), Phil.('12-16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('16-22). FB official. d. Phil. hospital from injuries in car crash on June 25. Recognition as guard on Chicago U. FB team, then Swarthmore C. FB team '04 & 05.Brooklyn spwr.; Wall St. broker's clerk. Reviewed books for NY World('20), Brook. Eagle spwr.('20-35,44-54),covered Dodgers, NY Evening Post (trav. w/Yankees, '35-44), NY Daily Mirror (?-'44), Sp. N. correspondent.

Brooklyn spwr; Advertising in 1917. Had been maritime PR man. Had been PR man for Rudder Club, a social club for maritime industry. Had been with Catholic Seamen's Institute of Brooklyn. Chicago spwr;Columbus Citizen(Ohio) reporter('06),Chicago Record-Herald('06-15),Clev. Newsp. Enterpr. Ass. sp.ed.('16,Nov.),Chicago Record-Herald(Nov.'16-19), Chicago Evening American('19-32), ed. BB Who's Who('33-40's),Chicago American(early '40's-49)NYC sp. wr. & author; Arrived NYC('11), served 1912-16 as Hearst foreign correspondent in Mexico & Europe. Made his name as author of novels with colorful Broadway characters. Many of his novels were used for movies,such as Guys & Dolls('55),(Runyon,continued),Double Indemnity('44),Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown('55),Little Miss Marker,with Shirley Temple('34),Lemon-Drop Kid('51),Lady For A Day('33),A Slight Case of Murder('38), d. developed throat cancer('38), lost speech('44), after operation.Phil. spwr.: Pittsburgh Gazette-Times (1900-08); Phil. Press baseball writer (1907- ?); Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. Sunday sports Magazine; American Shooters Magazine ed. ; American Trap Shooting Ass. GM; Phil. Evening Public Ledger sp. columnist ('22-32)(McLinn) Phil. Record chief sp. columnist ('32-35); Sports Announcer on WIP station ('35-?). Conducted dugout interviews with Mack & Ahtletics. His Dad, Rev. Milton E. McLinn, moved family to Louden County, VA. Was noted athlete in HS & college.Pitts. sp.wr.; Sharon Telegraph sp.wr.;Mov. Pittsburgh('14),began covering Pirates in '15. Pitts. Gazette-Times('14-27),Pitts. Sun-Telegraph('27-58,Jan.6).Served WW1 in France as Pitts. Gazette-Times correspond. Sp.News correspond. His column:Chillysauce

Detroit sports writer, newspaper executive; Detroit News police reporter('01),Detroit New sp.ed.('03-10),Detroit News city ed.('10-14),Detroit News managing ed.('14-28),Detroit News London bureau chief('28-30),Detroit Free Press ed. director('30-53,death)(Bingay,continued), Detroit Free Press editorial director('30-53,death), In '34,Bingay created column in the Free Press with wild character named Iffy, which became wildly popular.Bingay disclosed his authorship('39).His cartoonist,Fred S. Nixon.Chicago,NY,Boston sports writer; Chicago Inter Ocean('07-10), Chicago Examiner('10),Chicago Tribune('10), Sporting News man. ed.('10),Boston American,sp.ed.(Feb.'11-'11,Oct), Chicago American,copy reader,Chicago Examiner,sp.writer; Equally good at BB & FB

(Lardner, continued), Chicago Tribune(June,'12-19), Conducted The Wake of the News for the Chicago Tribune from June, 1913 to June, 1919, when he left for NYC. Oldest, continuous sp. column in US. NY Bell Syndicate of John N. Wheeler('19-27) (Lardner, continued) When he went to work for the Bell Syndicate of John Wheeler, he wrote a weekly column, moved his family from Chicago to NYC, traveled the US covering major sporting events, continued his fiction for magazines. In 1932, he published (Lardner, cont.) a series of autobiographical articles for Saturday Evening Post. Ring was diagnosed with TB. He died following a heart attack. He became extremely disillusioned with baseball after 1920, due to the live ball style of Babe Ruth HRs.

Detroit News sports editor his whole career (1907-58). Was Ty Cobb's biggest booster in print.Boston, Atlanta, NY spwr.; Worchester Gazette, Boston American(1904-07), NY Evening Journal(1907-12), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.(1912-14), NY American sp.ed.(1914-25), NY Journal(1925-37), spent all his last 8 yrs. as VP of 20th Century Sporting Club.

NY sp.wr.; Graduated Amherst college('07), NY Sun sp. wr., NY Herald, Theatrical press agent & publicist.

St. Paul & Sask. spwr.; Regins. Sask., Telegram sp.ed.; St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) Sp.ed. Associated with the St. Paul Pioneer Press for 11 yrs.; considered an expert on baseball & hockey. d. ill for several monthsBost.,NY; NY Morning Telegram sp.ed., boxing expert (1923) (20 yrs), NY Sun, NY World(boxing ed.),Boston American sp.ed. & columnist, Boston Globe news ed., NY Press sp. writer, NY Madison Square Garden Corp. PR director; New England War Production board salvage Div. PR director

Editor-in-Chief Baseball Magazine(Boston,'10-12), ('12-38, NYC). Wrote probably close to 1,000 excellent detailed articles on baseball's technical side as well as interviews w/stars at home in winter. H of Fame must. After retiring in 1937 from the(Lane) editor's chair, he returned to Cape Cod for his long life. Headed Piedmont College's Hist. Dept.('41-43) at Demorest, GA. Established journalism program there. He traveled extensively with wife Emma, whom he married in June, 1914. Together they(Lane) made many overseas voyages,circling globe 6 times. Wrote several books on geography & nature for adults & youths, '40's-50's. Publ. his poems in '58(On Old Cape Cod). Lived their final yrs. in Cape Cod nursing home,she died 10 months after him.

NY spwr.; New York (Evening) Sun copy boy,reporter,sp.wr,ass. sp. ed.('03-23), NY Evening Post('23-25), NY Graphic sp. ed.('25-26), New York Herald Tribune('26-50),

Chicago spwr.; Family moved from Ireland to Philadelphia when he was 5. Attended parochial school, De La Salle Academy; telegraph operator, Chicago Tribune (1911-20), chief of Los Angeles Times office in Chicago, IL (1920-46).

NY;NY Herald('07-?),at death, he was Chairman of the Board for North American Newspaper Alliances

NY spwr.; NY Daily News (1922-29), NY Times (1929-59). At 11 he became a reporter and a printer's devil with an Iowa weekly. Later, moved to Walnut Grove Banner (Illinois) for $15. a month, & later became a railroad telegrapher & wire reporter for AP.NY sports writer;Cleveland Press('07-08), Cleveland News('08-09),Clev.Press('09-11), NY Nat. News Ass.('11-32),King Features sp.ed.,International News,Universal Service,California('32-35), Universal('35-?),NY Press,ed.,Press Agent Kentucky Derby('38-45).(Menke cont.) Wrote Encyclopedia of Sports(1st ed, '34), his last ed. was publ. Nov.,'53. He worked w/ Col.Matt J. Winn of Kentucky Derby fame on his autobio.(Down the Stretch),worked w/ Ty Cobb,Gene Tunney,James J. Corbett & others on their autobio's.

Phil. sportswriter; son of famed Phil. sportswriter & editor-in-chief of AL Reich Guide('02-26) Francis C. Richter; Phil. North American, Phil. Press sp.ed., Phil. Chamber of Commerce PR director)'22-47), Dept. store Lit Brothers PR director('47-57).Philadelphia sports writer; Phil. Evening Times('09-?), Phil. Public Ledger(?-'19), Phil. Inquirer(Jan.'19-45).Boston, Sporting News sp. wr.; Grad. Boston College in 1907, Boston American sp. ed. around '17-28, sports feature writer, d. St. Luke's Hospital after several months of illness from heart disease

Detroit spwr; Detroit Journal reporter & sp. ed. (1907-19), Dearborn News, Own PR & advertising firm in Detroit. Arrived in NYC in '34, J. R. Thompson ad agencyl, free-lance writer, WWII - Army intelligence colonel, prolific author.

Boston sports writer; Boston Traveler(Apr.'13), Boston Herald(Apr.'13-49,May 8)(sp.ed. 19 17,Sept.)

spwr, referee, served as founder, editor, & publisher of The Ring('22); Grad. CCNY('08), Taught in NYC public schools, and became reporter NY Press('12-?), NY Sun, NY Telegram(?-29), Wrote over 50 books. In '42, ed. & pub. Ring Record Bk. & Boxing Ency. (Fleischer, continued) His Ring became boxing's most respected and leading publication and he became it's leading historian. Wrote bio of Dempsey and 12 other titlists. His 1929 Training for Boxers sold over 1m copies.

Bost. spwr; Grad. Dartmouth College; Began with Boston Herald('10), WWI, Boston Record('20-61). Founded the Hearst National Junior Golf classic and was chairman of event for many years.Chicago sp. wr; Kalamazoo Gazette('06), South Bend Tribune(IN), Chicago Inter-Ocean('09), Chicago Examiner, Chicago Associated Press('11-'16, Midwest sp.ed. '16-52,Sept.) Baseball was his favorite, but also loved track & boxing. d. heart attackBoston sp. wr.; Boston Herald, Boston Traveler sp.ed.(1917-26), Boston Braves Secretary('26-

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Baltimore sp. wr.; Baltimore News-Post sp. ed., Baltimore Sunday American sp. ed.NY spwr; NY Evening Telegraph (1912), NY Evening Mail, at least 1911 & 1914; Original founding member of BWAA; NYC Sports writer; Phil. News bureau(magazine & newspaper('10), New York Press, baseball ed.('11-16), NY Morning Sun('16-21), NY Telegram, baseball ed.('21-27), NY Evening Post(Mar.'27-34), moved to St. Petersberg,FL('34)(Lieb,continued), Sporting News correspondent('35-58) & columnist('43-47), St. Petersburg Times(Florida)('65-77). Feb.,'80-Jun.5,1980 nursing home Houston,TX. World Series scorer('22-24), covered World Series('11-58). Sporting News historian for yrs.

(Lieb,continued), edu; Phila Central Manual Training HS, Pa. assoc ed, weekly Baseball Guide; writer, Christy Walsh Syndicate; past assoc ed, baseball Magazine, Sport-life. chief official scorer, World's Series, 1922-23-24; Los Angeles spwr.; Sports writer, publicist; Pacific Coast League baseball for local newspapers (1909-31), Evening Express, then Herald & Express, credited with discovering Heine Manush, left newspaper work in '31 for publicist.ass. In charge of PR to David Fleming, Pres. Of Angels in 1938; After Pearl Harbor, he volunteered for the USO, and served them till the end of the war. Also worked for Pro Bow, Jr. rose Bolw, Helms Foundation, yearly Shrine Hosp. Prep FB game.Phil., NY;Phil. Inquirer,Phil. Evening Telegraph,Phil. Evening Bulletin, Phil. Associated Press, NY Herald Tribune, NY Sun, NY North American, Phil. Public Ledger. Acknowledged as authority on tennis.

St. Louis sports writer; St. Louis Star office boy in sp. dept.(Oct.'01-07,Apr.), St. Louis Times(Apr.'07-29,Dec.), St. Louis Star(Dec.'29-33), Star Times('33-51,Jun.15), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(Jun.15,'51-52,Jun.15), Hall of Fame director(Jun.15,'52-63).

St. Louis sports writer; Sporting News ed.('30-54,Jun.). Started('11), Worked for papers in Champaign,IL,Rockford,Il, Great Falls,MT, Helena,MT, Collyer Publishing Co.(Chicago managing ed., which specialized in sp.publ.) BB hist. expert, WWI service.inherited The Sporting News from his Dad in 1914, and owned, guided the best sports publication ever until his death in Dec., 1962. After his death, an award was (Spink, continued) created for the best sports writers, the Spink Award. It's a lifetime achievement award for the sports writing profession.Cinc. spwr; Moved Dayton '00, Dayton Herald('08-14), Cleveland Press(Mar.,1914-15,Sept.), Cinc.Post sp. ed.(Sept.,1915-?), WWI, Cinc. Post(1918-69). long-time Sp. News correspondent, statistics expert, President of BWAA('41). Loved golf. d. cancerCleveland spwr.; Det. Free Press('11), Toledo Blade, Dayton, Ann Arbor, Cleveland Leader copy reader,Started weekly sp. mag.,failed, Firestone Tire ad. dept.,Cleveland dept. store ad. man, Cleveland Plain Dealer('18), Cleveland Press sp.ed. (1930). Retired by '56NY s pwr.; NY Morning Telegraph reporter('08,10-11), NY Evening Sun('09), New York Tribune(copyreader, rewrite man,sports writer,sp.ed.,war correspondent, critic,columnist('11-21), NY World('21-28), NY Telegram('28-31), NY World-Telegram('31-39),(Broun,continued), NY Post('39), Early as Giants fan, he would root violently for his Giants. In '17-18, WWI, disliked Pershing & sent his copy directly to NY Tribune. Harvard niv. 1910(Broun, continued) Lecturer on modern drama, Columbia Univ, 1920; Rand School, NY, 1921; dramatic ed, Vanity Fair; motion picture ed, Judge, NY Contributor to mags on the theatre, books, sports, and politics.Chicago spwr.; Milwaukee Sentinel ('09-10), Chicago Record-Herald (Jan.2, 1910-14), Chicago Examiner (Oct.,'14-19), Chicago Tribune (June,'19-57, Nov.1). Known as baseball writer, but also wrote football in season. Covered 7,000 games, WS - 1911-57.Chi. sportswriter; minor league club official & sports announcer, credited with influencing Judge Landis into taking job as baseball's 1st commissioner. Way to go Oscar, thanks for nothing.Washington spwr.; Earned Bach. / Master's NYU; NY World reporter, city ed., ass. Sports ed.; Arrived Washington, DC in 1917; Washington Post sports & city editor, editorial writer (1917 - 1925), Kinograms motion pictures newsreels ed. (NY); North American Newspaper Alliance feature writer 1932).

(FitzGerald, continued) Director / Moderator of American Sch. Of the Air, a program of Columbia Brdcsting Sys.; Info Dir. Dept. Labor under Miss Frances Perkins (1933-45), Ass. to Pres. Truman's assistnant (John R. Steelman); appointed PR staff of George Washington U. (Jan. 24, 1959) to handle press info of scientific activities. Phil.;NY Globe,NY Sun; covered every World Series from 1923-49; Became Baseball's Hall of Fame's librarianHartford Times(CT) sp. wr. ; Began career at age 15 in 1905 as part-time reporter for his father's newspaper New London Day. Worked on Boston Post, Hartford Post, Hartford courant & Providence Journal; Hartford Times(Sept. 20,1920-1974,Jan.'74).St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis U. St. Louis Times (1908-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1909-17), WWI, Southwest Bell Telephone Co. PR dept. (1917), ass. VP of PR for AT&T ('27), ass. to Walter S. Gifford, the Pres. (1930). Retired (1950).Executive; Admitted bar, WWI (Judge Advocate's dept.), law partnership, Worked in Judge Landis' office as his assistant & councel. He conducted investigations, wrote up Landis' decisions, supervised record-keeping in office ( Jan.,'21 - 44, November).(O'Connor) Acting Commissioner ( Dec.,'44 - 45, May), special ass. to Comm. happy chandler (June - Oct., '46), VP & GM White Sox (Nov., '45- 48, Nov.), ML exec. council ('46-47), counsel Coast L. & later ('56-59) Pres. & attorney AA.

Detroit spwr.; Managing ed. & boxing promoter in Superior, WI; Detroit Times sports staff for 33 yrs. From '23-56. Respected authority of baseball, hockey and golf.

Wash. sp.wr.; He had worked for papers in Wash, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Lancaster,PA. He retired from the Baltimore News-American in 1968

NY spwr.; NY World office boy('05-12) sporting staff ('12-18), NY American('18-20), NY World('20-31), NY Graphic(1931-39), New Yankees PR man('39-42,death), NY Mirror composing room('41-42,death). D. apoplexyNew York spwr.; NY American sp. wr.(Oct.'17-24), NY Daily Mirror sp.ed.(24-25), NY American man. ed.('25-28), NY Morning Telegraph('28), free lance biographer('28-60). Himself a true character, known for his many affairs. Hollywood script writer (Fowler) Biographies: William Fallon, famous NYC attorney(The Great Mouthpiece,'31), John Barrymore(Good Night, Sweet Prince,'43), Jimmy Walker,NYC mayor,'26-32(Beau James,'49), Jimmy Durante(Schnozzola,'51), Minutes of the Last Meeting(W.C. Fields)

Bost. sp. wr.; Boston Traveler('19-55). Former correspondent for The Sporting News.

NY spwr.; national correspondent for TSN, mainly covered Yankees, was as much an authority in boxing as BB. NY World-Telegram, NY World-Telegram & Sun, Helped found(Daniel, continued) Ring Magazine in 1922, Could also handle FB. Pres. BBWAA, Baseball Rules committee, Won Spink Award in 1972, BB's Hall of Fame Veterans committee, Chairman of NY chapter of BWAA, more honors/awards than can be listed. buried: Forrest Lawn Memorial Gardens, Pompano Beach, FLPhil. spwr; Phil. Press,(1911-?), Phil. North American(?-25), Phil. Public Ledger ass. sp.ed.(1925-mid-30's), Phil. Record sp. ed. (mid-30's-55). d. after stroke at home, several days before Brooklyn Sports editor; Brooklyn Standard Union assistant to sports editor, William A. Rafter (1912-26), sports editor ('26-28), NY Moring Telegraph sports editor (1928-29), NY Times sports staff ('29-59).Brooklyn, NY spwr.: Worked for Brooklyn Citizen in 1917, former golf ed. of NY Journal-AmericanLos Angeles spwr.; Grad. Occidental C. ('21), LA Times political columnist for 30 yrs. Began his "By the Way" column in '39. TV & radio commentator for many yrs. Joined LA Times after grad. & covered movies, autos, aeronautics. Began radio '22.(Henry, continued) Associated with LA Times from 1911-70. Was their war correspondent in France & South Pacific during WWII. NBC Network news analyst. Atlanta sports writer; Lexington Herald(TX)('16), Atlanta Georgian('16-?), World War I, Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('29-32), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.('32-39), Atlanta Journal sp.ed.('39-57,Feb.,retired). Public relations firm.

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(Burns,continued), WWI army service, Pres. BWAA('47), specialized in baseball(his favorite,football,hockey). Big jovial Ed mastered the art of satirical yet gentle ribbing & needling. Cleveland spwr.; Providence Journal spwr. ('08-20), Cleveland Plain Dealer spwr. (1920-25), sp.ed. ('25-46). d. at home of cerebral hemorrhagae, after suffering stroke on June 9. good bowler, golfer, FB referee, directed Golden Gloves tournament.NYC spwr., synd. owner; St. Vincent College, LA; S. Cal. Univer. Law; Los Angeles Herald spwr. & cartoonist (1911-13), Motor Cars advertising manager (San Francisco) 1913-16, Detroit advertising ('17), Christy Walsh Syndicate (1921).(Walsh, continued) started managing sports stars, such as Babe Ruth( he helped him organize his finances till wife Claire fired him),Founded newspapers sports syndicate('19-37), a group of sp. wr. to ghost write stars "autobio's.

(Walsh, continued) edu; St Vincent Col, Los Angeles, Cal; Univ of Southern Cal, Law NY sp.wr.; Staten Island Advance (NY)('15-23), NY Times(May 28,'23-'64, April 4), Sporting News correspondent, specialized in baseball most of his career. Was an accomplished pianist. BB Hall of Fame ('74,Spink Award) d. crematedChicago spwr.; Grad. Swarthmore C.('13), Philadelphia ('13-14), Chicago reporter ('14), Advertising('20-30). Chicago Daily News drama ed. sp. ed., amusement ed, picture ed. ('30-43). Became managing ed. ('43-46), Sun-Times columnist('46-49)(Lewis, cont.) Biographies: Abraham Lincoln (Myths After Lincoln, 1929), General Sherman (Sherman, Fighting Prophet, 1932, almost finished a bio on Grant(Captain Sam Grant, 1949). Co-authored a history of Chicago. Lectured history at Chicago U. ('3738)Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago Tribune(later Sunday ed.), New York Daily News, NY Herald & Examiner sp. wr.('36-?), NY AmericanSt. Louis spwr.; Raised St. Louis, Attended U. of St. Louis, St. Louis Times (1914-16), St. Louis Republic (1916-17), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1917-61, Aug. 1). Sports desk in '23, then desk chief for many yrs. Occasionally went to spring training with Browns/ Cardinals. Long-time contributor to Sporting News. d. heart attack

Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette('18-60), d. died at home, after recent stroke.

Phil., NY; Phil. Press sp. wr,Phil Public Ledger sp. wr.,Phil. Inquirer sp. wr.,NY Times sp. copy desk('22-29), Chicago(Brunswick - Balke - Collender Co, Ins., PR director.,'20-34); NY Daily copy ed('34), NY Times (city ed.,'34, city desk obits('35-43)

Philadelphia, NY sp.wr.; Phil. Evening Star, Phil. Bulletin, Phil. Record('12-?), Phil. Public Ledger('?-29,Feb.20), NY Times(Feb.1929 '32,Oct.9), Phil. Public Ledger(Oct.9,1932-34,Nov.), PR director of NL Service Bureau(Nov.,'34-45), (Brandt,continued), Dr. Brandt, in addition to sp. writing, was an osteopathic physician,who graduated in 1911.After leaving the NL Service Bureau in '45, he conducted national radio sp. program 5 days a wk.(Inside of Sp.) for the Mutual Brdcsting system.

Atlanta sports writer; Lexington Herald(TX)('16), Atlanta Georgian('16-?), World War I, Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('29-32), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.('32-39), Atlanta Journal sp.ed.('39-57,Feb.,retired). Public relations firm.Boston sports writer; Boston Journal, specialized in boxing (1913-17), US Navy ('17-18), Boston Record, specialized in BB, ('18-21), Boston Post, became ass. Sp. ed. in '22. Big follower of Red Sox. ('21-56), Red Sox publicity director('56-70).

San Francisco, Los Angeles; Los Angeles Express sp.ed., San Francisco Examiner sp.ed.( ?-64).Pittsburgh sports writer; Pitts. Hill Top Record('13-?), Pitts. Tri-State News Service, Pitts. Chronicle Telegraph('16-27), Pitts. Sun Telegraph('27-29), Pitts. Post-Gazettle sp.ed.('29-47, death). His writing style was scholarly blended with Irish wit.

NY spwr. & sp. ed.: NY Daily Mirror spwr. & Ass. sp. ed. NY Journal-American outdoor ed. d. in Union Hospital in Bronx, NY.San Francisco spwr.: San Francisco Bulletin 1907-?, San Francisco Examiner 1926-69. Started as copy boy on Bulletin, divided his time between baseball and horse racing. In '69, his paper put him on a desk, to make him quit, on account of his age.St. Louis,NY sports writer; St. Louis Republic('13-19), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('19-?),Akron, Cleveland News,Milwaukee News(Wisconsin), St. Louis Post-Dispatch, New York Herald('23-24), New York Sun('24-50,sp.ed.34-50). Primarily boxing writer.(Woods,cont.),served 11 mo. in naval aviation unit in France(WWI),Lived FL since retirement('50), d. stroke at home; In '26, Boxing Writers Ass. formed, elected Wood Pres.; When Joe Vila died('34), Wood replaced him as sp. ed of NY Sun untll '50.

Boston sp. wr. & sp. ed; Boston Traveler('12-14), Boston Transcript (sp. wr.,'14-28, sp. ed.,28-40), Boston Traveler sp. columnist('41-61,Jun.)NY sports writer; Waterbury Republican (CT) reporter (1912-13), Waterbury American (CT) spwr. (1913-24); NY Mirror('24-63), New York Journal American('63-67).

NYC spwr; Born Harlem,NYC; NY Sun spwr('15-34), sports columnist('34-43), Look magazine sp. ed.('43-45), NY Journal-American sports columnist, Graham's Corner('45-65). Wrote 6 sports books. Boxing authority. d. Fractured skull in bathroom fall at homeSF,Chicago,NY spwr; Born California; San Francisco Call-Post; NY Mail('22-23), Chicago Herald Examiner sp. ed.('23-39),Chicago Herald-American('39- Sept. 25, 1941), Chicago Sun sp.ed.(Nov. 27, 1941 - Dec. 20, 1946), Chicago Herald-American (Dec. 20, 1946 - July, 1967, Chicago Today(1967 - 1974). Chairman Hall of Fame Veterans Committee.

NY sp. wr.; Attended Morris HS,attended NY School of Fine & Applied Arts, attended National Academy of Design(NY) for 1 yr., Served 2 yrs. in US Navy(World War I); Baseball Magazine art director & ass. editor('19-37), Editor-in-Chief,art director('37-54).

NY, Phil. sp.wr.; Portland Oregonian(?-17), WWI Marine Corps, Newpaper Enterprise Association, WWII war correspondent with US Air Force, Authored:They Played the Game('44) d. cancerLos Angeles spwr.; Los Angeles Times sports columnist, cartoonist artist (1922-32), did many magazine covers. Sports cartoonist, "Seein' Stars", appeared in hundreds of newspapers from 1941-53. Came in 3rd in High Hurdles at 1920 Antwerp, Belgian Olympic Games.Phil. sp.wr.; Served in WW1, returned home Aug.,1919, Attended Temple U.(Phil), Sporting Life ed. staff(Phil), Philadelphia Record covered both the Phillies & Athletics(spr.'24-47). Phillies PR staff in charge of press & radio service('47-56).Chicago,Kansas City sp wr; Kansas City Journal sp. ed.('14-36), Chicago Herald-American sp.ed.('37-?), Hearst sp. director d. heart ailment

Minneapolis Journal sp.wr.('10), Minneapolis Tribune night sp.ed.('11-12),Indianapolis Star('13-15), Det. Free Press news reporter('16-17), WW1('18), ToledoTimes telegraph ed.(OH)('19)city ed.('20), St. Louis Times managing ed.('21-23) d. brain hemorrhage

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(Farrington, continued) ST. Louis Post-Dispatch feature ed.('24), Sporting News ed.('24-28), NY Herald Tribune news makeup('28-30), St. Louis Times sp.ed.('30-32), Sporting News Ass.Ed. - column "Fanning with Farrington" ('32-43). (Farrington, continued) St.Louis Post-Dispatch sp.wr('43-53). Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOSt. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Times (1912-14), St. Louis Post-Dispatch ('15 - 61, Aug.), Was a Sporting News correspondent for St. Louis (Dec. 9, '26 - 61); Sporting News Ass. ed.(Aug.,'61-66). Philadelphia sp.wr.; World War I, Chicago sp.wr., Cleveland sp. wr.: Phil. Inquirer(1940-44,Mar), Phil. Evening Bulletin sp. staff(Mar.'44-44,Jun.3),

NY spwr.; Des Moines newspaper, United Press office in NY('12),St. Louis,Dallas,TX as a reporter, buss. manager. Went to London, England as foreign correspondent with Amer. Expeditionary Force, '16. Enlisted US Navy. After war, returned to UP('19)(Pegler, continued) in NY office, as spwr. & sp. ed. From 1925-33, Pegler was an extremely high-paid spwr. for the Chicago Tribune. In 1933, he was sent to Washington, DC, to write politics & politicians. He developed an extremely bitterly-biting, (Pegler, continued) critical, ascerbic style of attack journalism. Became feared for his poisoned pen, or type-writer. In 1933, Pegler went nationally syndicated with his "Fair Eough" column for Scripps-Howard, within the Hearst family of papers. He targeted labor union bosses as a menace. In '44, went to NY Journal-American, with "As Pegler Sees It." Pegler became a 1930's & 40's version of Rush Limbaugh & Joe McCarthy. When the Political Right unleashed it's dogs of war, Pegler was the lead dog.(Pegler, continued) In 1949, Westbrook Pegler attacked Quentin Reynolds so bitterly, that Quentin sued him for libel & won. Louis Nizer was Reynold's Jewish attorney, who won for him $175,000. and earned the enmity of Pegler for Jews. But after that (Pegler, continued) Pegler's career didn't seem to have it's former impetus. The case had lasted 5 yrs.

Philadelphia Phillies pitcher & Philadelphia sp.wr.; Phillies pitcher('14-26),Philadelphia Inquirer reporter(Feb,27,'27-29, sp.wr.'29-55).

Phil,NY,FL sports writer; Philadelphia Public Ledger('12-?), Phil. Record(?-23), NY Telegram('23-24, 6 months), NY Post('24-33),NY Journal-American('33-38),Miami Daily News('38-42),Miami Herald(Nov,'44-79, My.31).(Kofoed, continued), Served in WWI (France, non-commissioned) & WWII(London, PR officer, 8th Air Force).NY spwr & BB exec; Colorado Springs Gazette spwr('15-21), NY American spwr. ,covered Giants('21-31), NY Journal spwr. covered Yankees(31-33), NL publicist('33-?), NL President('35-51), BB Commissioner('51-65).

Philadelphia sports writer; Phil.Public Evening Ledger sp. ed.('18-42), Phil Evening Bulletin('42-63).Chicago spwr; Elmira Advertiser sp.ed. (NY), San Antonio News, Houston Post, Galveston News, WWI aviation corps, started as BB writer on Chicago Journal ('20-?), Chicago News, Chicago Herald & Examiner (1933), Chicago Daily News, Chicago Herald-American. Ill for yr. San Francisco spwr.; SF Daily News, off. boy ('09-11),SF News police reporter, Love Advice Column "Cynthia Grey", ('11-15), sp.ed. ('15-42); Partner in Sacramento bowling alley. Specialized in boxing & baseball. Knew Dempsey, DiMaggio, O'Doul.World War I service('18); ML pitcher(20,21,28); managed the following minor league clubs: Terre Haute,Crookston,Louisville, Indianapolis, Davenport, New Orleans,St. Joseph, Rock Island, Lincoln. Coached Red Sox('44), Pirates('47-48,58-63).NY Times boxing ed.('15-53), helped found the NY Boxing Writers Association in 1936 and served as it's 1st Vice President.St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star('16-?), St. Louis Republic, St. Louis Globe-Democrat, World War I('17-18), St. Louis Globe-Democrat spwr.('19-41, 43-early 50's) covered Cardinals & Browns,sp. ed.('41-43), (early 50's-60, copy desk work). (Haley, continued) d. pneumonia Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

NY spwr.; grad. Columbia College('17), WWI, served as attache in France (Aug. '17- May,'19), NY Times spwr. ('19-28), NY Morning Telegraph sp.ed.('28-30), Columbia College athletic publicity director.NY,Cle spwr; Started on ed. staffs Xenia Gazette & Columbus Dispatch(OH),Army with 37 Div(Jun.2,'17)., joined UP sp.ed. NY. Left UP to join Newspaper Enterprises Alliance in Cleveland. Got ill,left NEA. Dayton Daily News & papers in Chicago & Detroit.Milwaukee spwr.: Arrived Milwaukee as child. Milwaukee Journal reporter('11-55), BB writer'18-55. Office boy Mil. Journal Feb.,1911, cub reporter shortly afterwards. Covered BB & Boxing; 1st Mil. radio announ. '26. heart attack at home, ill 4 yrs.NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept.

Greenville Piedmont, Greenville(SC)News sp. ed.; editor of newspapers since before 1930. Detroit scout d. heart attack

Wilkes-Barre (PA) sp.ed; secretery to Mayor, city council member. d. heart ailment, confined to his bed since ChristmasNY sp.wr.; Boonville,MO HS, U. Miss.('17), WWI(army,France,'17-18); NY Times('20-25), NY Journal-American('25-58),Specialized in BB,horse racing,boxing; Supervised one of his favorite things, Kentucky Derby('49-58). d. lung cancer at St. Luke's Hosp.,NYDetroit spwr; Attended Randolph Macon College(Ashland,VA), WWI('17-18); Worked papers in Roanoke,VA, Key West,FL, Beaumont,TX. Moved Detroit('22), Detroit Free Press spwr('22-24,Jan), Detroit News(Jan.31,'24-63). Liked FB, Loved boxing,was expert.

Dayton, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Dayton U., Dayton News ('16), Dayton Herald ('17), Detroit News, only 3 months ('18), Cleveland Plain Dealer ('19-23), Cleveland News (23-29) , Chicago Consolidated Press sp. ed. ('29-54), (Powers, continued), Chicago Daily News, Chicago American, PR director of college Football's East-West Shrine Football Game('55-75, SF,CA) Returned Dayton, OH '75. Lived Biltmore Hotel. Specialized in football writing during the season, and golf. (Powers, continued), edu; Milford Center & St. Mary's HS; Dayton Univ; Ohio state CollegeNY spwr.; Enlisted WWI ('17-18), New York Daily News sp. ed.('18-39), left NYC('39), Daily Olympian(Washington state) sp. ed.('39-61). Was always considered the closest scribe pal of Babe Ruth. NY spwr.; Dallas Dispatch reporter, Minneapolis News reporter, New York Evening Mail, Paris Herald (European edition of NY Herald (1925-34), NY Herald Tribune reporter and columnist (1934-66). Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago Record-Herald('?-17), WWI(Navy petty officer), ad business('18-23), Chicago Evening American('23-), Chicago Herald-Examiner, In '34 Jimmy was hit by a car & hospitalized for almost a yr. d. lung ailmentBoston sp.wr.; WWI; Dallas News(TX) reporter('21-22), Boston Post sp.wr. & general columnist('22-41), Boston Herald(March,1941-60). In Sept.'58, his cancerous larynx was removed, rendering him mute,ending his radio career. d. throat cancer

Cinc. sp. wr.: Louisville (KY) Courier-Journal state ed., Cincinnati Times-Star('23-58) sp. ed.('30-58). Retired when Scripps-Howard Co. bought Times-Star & formed the Post & Times-Star. He began his career with a weekly paper in Long Prairie,Minn.Brooklyn spwr.; Attended grammar sch. In Brooklyn; NY Evening Sun - printer's devil (June, 1911). He became a copy boy in '14, covered Wall St. ('16), Baseball starting '18 until he died. Covered the Dodgers all his career. Once commented dryly, "Over-confidence can cost the Dodgers sixth place."

Cleveland sp.ed.; Lincoln Courier-Herald('13), WWI (missed fighting), Springfield IL. State Register, Cleveland Plain-Dealer, Newspaper Enterprise Ass. sp. wr.('25-39). Retired by 1956.Chicago spwr.: Conducted Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June 14, 1937 to his death in '55. He'd inherited this most prestigious, oldest, continuous of all sports columns fr. his predecessor, Harvey Woodruff. d. heart attackSt. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatech (1921-66). Specialized in boxing and baseball. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MONY sp. wr.; Sporting News(St. Louis), New York Herald Tribune('27-30), NY Daily News sp. wr.('30-62,retired), After service in world War I, he began his sports-writing career, which included 15 newspapers.Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Gazette Times(2 weeks,'14), Pittsburgh Post('14-19), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times sp.ed.('19-23), Baltimore American sp.ed.('23-25), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('25-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph('27-60).NY sports writer; NY Mail, International News Service('17-23,25-34), Havana Telegram('23-25), Boston American('34-38), NY Journal-American, sp.ed.('38-66).

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NY, Europe spwr; WWI navy for 1.5 yrs.; NY Daily News: movie critic,'22, spwr,'23-24, sp.ed., columnist, ass.managing ed.(24-36); war correspondent('44) for Cosmopolitan; After '36 Berlin Olympics, left Daily News for freelance fiction writing. (Gallico, continued) Bought home in South Devon,England('36), & began living overseas but didn't move abroad permanently until '50. Some of his books: Farewell to Sports('38), Lou Gehrig, Pride of the Yankees('42), The Golden People('65), (Gallico, continued) edu; De Witt Clinton HS, NY Columbia U. BA, 1921. NY Illustrated New, 1923-?, sp. ed.

Chi. spwr; Chicago Examiner spwr, Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Journal, Chicago American spwr & ed.('43-69), Chicago Today sp.ed.('69), Founder,pres. Amateur softball Assn..,1930-38; pres., Nat. Professional Basketball League, 1940-44.Chicago sports writer; Chicago Evening Journal('20-29), Chicago Daily News('29-?), Esquire Magazine sp. ed.; wrote Out of Bounds(1937), football stories from the 1930's. Wrote at least until 1947. Retired by '56. d. cardio-respiratory arrestPhil. sportswriter; Phil. Public Ledger(1921-34),Phil. Inquirer('45-57), US Navy('42-45), Phil. Inquirer('45-57), Camden Courier-Post('57-67,April).Brooklyn,NY sp. wr.; Brooklyn Times,NY Morning World, NY Journal-American, NY Daily Mirror('33-63), covered the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Detroit spr.; Pittsburgh U.; Allentown Record (1919-?) miscellaeous work; obituaries, city ed.. Reading Times (PA), reporter, cartoonist, Philadelphia Record (1924-28); Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts; Detroit Free Press sp. ed., sports columnist, BB writer, cartoonist (1928-45), Detroit Times boxing / horse racing writer (1945-60). NY spwr; Worked for papers in Elmira, Ithaca & Binghamton, NY; Ithaca Journal reporter (1917); Associated Press, NY sp. ed. , Executive editor, ('22-63). Moved Florida ('75). d. heart attackNYC sp. wr. ; New York Evening Journal office boy, New York Globe reporter, NY Mail, Bronx Home News, NY Evening Graphic, Miami Tab, NY Daily Mirror sp. wr.

Brook., NY sports writer; Graduated Cornell U.('16-21), interrupted by WW1('18-19), Brooklyn Daily Eagle sp.writer('21-23), NY Times('23-68).Authored 8 sp. history books. Has received honors from many sports:BB,FB,tennis,rowing, & colleges,Universities

Milwaukee sp. ed.; sp. ed. of the Nowiny Polskie, daily Polish newspaper of Milwaukee,WI. He had covered the Milwaukee Brewers of the American Ass. for more than 20 yrs. & was a Polish sp. encyclopedia. Was expert on Polish athletes. Favorite:Al SimmonsDetroit sports writer; Started out at newspapers in Port Huron, Flint, MI, Duluth, MN; Detroit Times (1919-37). Chairman of Michigan State Athletic Board of Control (1937-39). NY spwr; NY Sun sp. ed., Long Island Daily Star managing editor(1921-?). Moved to Spokane in 1941 and was city editor and associate editor of the Spokesman Review. Also served WWI sgt. 1st army. Pittsburgh sports writer; World War I (1st class quartermaster); Pittsburgh Dispatch('20-23), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('24-27), Cleveland Press('27-31), Pittsburgh Press('31-66,retired). Died in St. Clair Memorial Hosp. San Francisco spwr; Grad. Stanford law School ('21), San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1934-65). d. after a lingering illness, was admitted to Presbyterian Hospital, and a series of abdominal operations failed to save him. Active in SF Press Club.Chicago sports writer; Crawfordsville Review city ed. ('16-18), South Bend Tribune('18-23), Washington DC Daily News sp.ed.('23-28), St. Louis Sporting News, St. Louis Star-Times, Chicago Journal('28-29), Chicago Daily News sp.ed('29-48), Boxing & BB(Kessler,continued), Chicago Sun-Times columnist('48-58), semi-retire('58), moved to FL. & continued writing for Chicago Sun-Times. NY, Boston spwr; WWI US navy seaman; Grad. Harvard('26), Boston Globe reporter('26,30), NY Sun reporter('30-39), Fortune Mag. ass.ed('39-42), Herard Tribune rod & gun ed.('49-?), novelist

Cleveland sp.wr.; Joined Marines(Feb.11,1918), Cleveland Plain Dealer (police reporter,'24-27, sp.wr.,'27-44, war correspondent,'44-45, editorial columnist,'45-46, sp.ed.,'46-64), Cleveland Times editorial wr.('27).

Det., Toledo,Cle. sports writer; El Paso Herald, Toledo Times('17-?), Toledo News-Bee, Toledo Blade, Cleveland News, Detroit Times(13 years), Flint Journal(7 years), NY Mirror, King Features, Hearst Sunday Features, Toledo Times('45-67,Apr.).New York sports writer; Washington Herald('23-24), Washington Daily News('24-25), NY Times('25-31), NY Morning Telegraph, NY HeraldTribune,NY Herald Tribune(in England,'45-?). Retired by 1956.Cle. sp.wr.; Ravenna Record(OH), Cleveland Plain Dealer(Sept.,'22-64). d. in his sleep at the Alcazar Hotel in Cleveland Heights,OH.

Phil. spwr.; Enlisted Aviation corps for WWI, discharged Dec.15,'18, without overseas service. Grad. U. of Wisconsin journalistic course('22). Buffalo Courier, Duluth News-Tribune, Superior Telegram, Port Huron Times Herald, Chicago American,(Peterman, continued) Milwaukee Wisconsin News, Phil. North Amer. Phil. Bulletin spwr./columnist ('24-38), Phil. Inquirer('38-54), Inquirer WWII correspondent & international corresp, founded Phil. Ins. Info. Corp., lecturer, Radio Ins. Q&A program.

(Peterman, continued) Mr. Peterman's reputation was based on his Phil. Inquirer days from '38-58. He wrote that America wasn't getting its value from the Marshal Plan. Covered UN, Nato, peace conferences & assorted world events.Chicago sports writer; NFL player, and later an official; 1st Pres. of College FB Writers Ass. Chicago Tribune (1922-55, spwr. 1955-66, sp. ed). Wrote on many sports. Det. spwr; WWI, WWII ( enlisted Army Air Forces, 1942, Pacific theater, was major; , VP of Detroit Lions, National FB club, Detroit Times spwr.('25-29,)(sp.ed'29-?)., PR director of radio station WWJ(Detroit).

Balt., Phil., NY sports writer; NY Daily News city, sports ed. (?-37, Oct.), King Features Syndicate, NY Daily Mirror, NY PostSan Francisco sports writer; Omaga Bee,Klamath Falls News, Sacramento Bee, Sacramento Union, San Fran. United Press Bureau, San Fran. Call('26-?),SF Call-Bulletin'26-59)('47-59, sp.ed.), SF News-Call Bulletin('59-65), (McDonald,continued), San Francisco Examiner rewrite man('65-67,Jan. 25, retired), After retirement moved to Mexico to enjoy the good life, but just couldn't stop writing free lance. In 1978, moved back to San Diego.Springfield,MA; Grad. Boston College. Springfield Republican(MA)(1923-49), appointed sp. ed. 1930-49. d. heart attack in Boca Raton, FL.

Bost. spwr; outstanding trackman and 2nd baseman in his youth. Boston Traveler spwr.('25-'29), Boston Transcript spwr.('29-33), Boston American sp. ed. & columnist('33-?). WWII went overseas as correspondent for New England troops in Europe.

Boston sp. wr.; Boston American('17-33), Boston Telegram, Boston Daily Record, Sunday AdvertiserNY sp. wr.; New York Times sports staff(?-'44,Feb.), Metropolitan race track publicity relationsSan Francisco spwr.; Grad. U. of Washington. Pacific Coast sp. ed. For Associated Press for 30 yrs. Noted golf, boxing, Rose Bowl writer.

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(Newland, continued) Reported the rise of Joe DiMaggio and the founding of the East-West FB game. D. Knew he was ill for 6 months, heart attack in St. Francis Hospital, SF, bed-ridden to he passed, required hospital treatment for obscure blood infection & neck injury suffered in WWI. NY spwr; Wrote baseball 12 yrs. before TV show. NY Mail, World, Morning Telegraph, Daily News(column "Little Old New York", which he continued till his death; Gained TV immortality for his long-running Sunday night TV variety show, "The Ed Sullivan Show" (June 20,1948- June 6,1971); d. cancer

NY spwr.; Attended NYC public sch. And grad. Friends Seminary there. NY World artist, later spwr, (1921-22), Wrote sports from 1923-31 for NY Herald Tribune, NY Mirror, NY Evening World. Covered Yankees, Dodgers, and Giants. From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr. (Mann, continued) From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr. Free lance writer, radio writer, broadcaster. From 1946-49, asst. to Pres. Brookly Dodgers. Assisted in Negro integration in organized BB, 1945 & ML BB, 1947. (Mann, continued) Asst. Pres. Branch rickey Continental L. '59-60, Wrote Jackie Robinson '50, BB Confidential '51, Branch rickey bio '57, Editor & collaborator: The Real McGraw (by Mrs. John McGraw), Off and runjning (by Bill Corum) 1959.

Free lance author of sports books; New York Times reporter('27-28), New York Stock Exchange('29-44), free-lance writer('36-70's). US Naval reserve('42-44). one of his best: The Story of Baseball

San Francisco spwr; Salt Lake Tribune general assignment reporter, Denver Rocky Mountain News sp. ed.; Denver Evening News, San Francisco Examiner sp. ed. (1931-66).

Brooklyn spwr.; Went to grammar sch. And Brown Prep in Phil. Left for Brooklyn. Fordham U. , St. John's College; Brooklyn Standard-Union in '28, Brooklyn Times, 1929, Brooklyn Times-Union, Brooklyn Eagle,

Montreal,Can. spwr.; Montreal Star spwr. (1925-67), Sporting News correspondent for many yrs. d. after long illnessPitts. sports writer; Pitts. Gazette-Times copy boy('16-?), Pitts. Chronicle-Telegraph, Pitts. Sun-TelegraphSt. L, Chi., Det. sports writer; St. Louis Republic , St. Louis Globe-Democrat , St.Louis Star Times, (May 21, 1936?-'40?), Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Sun, Detroit Times, Chicago Times (Nite sports editor)

NY spwr.; NY Evening World (1924-26), NY Post (1926-74), During his 48 yrs. at the NY Post, he served as a reporter, feature writer, columnist and sports editor. D. Heart attack

Chicago spwr.; Howard College ('21-24); Birmingham Age-Herald copy boy (1917-25), Tampa Tribune (FL) city ed. (1925-?), Chicago Times (1929-74) reporter 1929, sp. Columnist, sp. Ed. 1941; WWII, enlisted Navy, chief of Navy press in Wash.DC; Chicago Sun-Times man. ed., 1949-74. Lerner Newspapers man. ed. and later executive ed. Wrote several history books. Chicago sp.wr.; Milwaukee Journal reporter night police, Milwaukee Leader, Chicago Herald-Examiner sp. wr('27-32), Chicago Daily News(sp.wr.'32-43,sp.ed.43-72). Loved baseball, passionate about horse racing. Won Spink Award('75) putting him in BB H of F.

NY spwr.; NY Post spwr. & columnist (1934-67) Specialized in Football, boxing, thoroughbred racing, His column was called "Buckshot".

NY spwr.; Cleveland Press, '25-26, NY sp. ed. NEA syndicate('27-28), NY News, '29--33, NY Daily News, 1936-59.

St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star spwr.('23-51), Associate editor Sporting News('51-79). Gained attention after WWII by reports on Mexican League raids on major leagues. d. heart attack, buried, Resurrection Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Chicago sports writer; Chicago Daily New('24-36), Wisconsin News(Milwaukee), Intntn News service(Chicago office), Chicago Times('36-47), Chicago Sun-Times('47-57). Left Sun-Times in '57 and became a real estate agent in Scottsdale. d. cancerCleveland spwr.; Cleveland News sp. columnist more than 20 yrs. until it went out of publication in '60. St. Louis sports writer; Atlantic City review, Camden Evening Courier(shore resort correspondent), Camden Evening Courier('25-26), Camden Morning Post,sp. dept.('26-?), new Camden Courier, St. Louis Sporting News('36-38), Phil. Record('39-45,Jan.).NY spwr.; NY Journal sp.rep. ('22), Brooklyn Daily Times ('23-29), NY World Telegram ('29-40), NY PM('40-48), NY Star sp.ed.('48), NY Morning Telegraph sp.ed.('48) , NY Collier sp.ed.('50-56), AS Barnes publishing, Yankees, Mets, authored BB's Best,1964

Wash, Baltimore spwr; His mother was Shinnecock Indian; Grew up Wash. DC, 5 blocks from Griffith stadium, Grad. Howard U., bachelor's in physical education('23). Devoted his early life to lobbying for integration of ML baseball & society.(Lacy, continued) Washington Tribune: part-time spwr., reporter('18-20,23-30), managing ed., spwr.,('30-34), sp.ed., columnist('34-39); Baltimore Afro-American spwr., columnist('39-40), sp.ed., columnist('43-, Chicago Defender ass. national ed.('40-43),(Lacy, continued) 1st black in the Baseball Writers Association('48), Taylor Spink Award(Baseball Hall of Fame, 1997), Personally knew many black stars(J.Louis,J.Owens,A.Ashe), but never shirked from criticizing them if he felt warranted. Mentor: father

Brooklyn,NY sports writer; Born England, Brooklyn Citizen('19-26), New York Mirror('26-46), Manager of National Service Bureau, Secretary-Treasurer in Commissioner's office('65-71,Feb), administrator players benefit plan,(Segar, continued), Chairman Players Rules Committee('62-71,lJul.23), Blue Book revision committee. Loved golf, movies, TV, d. natural causes, cremated, buried: Pinelawn Cemetery, Long Island, NY Brooklyn, NY spwr.; Brooklyn Eagle('26, Oct., -56), mostly covered the Dodgers, Herald Tribune('56-66), mostly covered the Dodgers, until they left town for Los Angeles, CA. Authored The Dodgers('75).NY sp. ed; International News Service(NY) sp. ed.('36-51), Camillo restaurant(NY) owner('51-57), 2 yrs. sp. PR., Lawton Carver's café(NY), assistant to John Denson,ed. of Herald Tribune, NY Journal-American kitchen ed.(under name Prudence Penny).

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Grad. Los Angesles Polytechnic HS, joined LA Times as cub reporter, became baseball writer, '24, started his "X-Ray" column in '34. also wrote FB, Boxing, Tennis, basketball. Became ass. sp. ed. in '26. d. malignancy in California Lutherean Hosp.Cle. spwr.; Miami Daily Tab ed. (FL), Daytona Beach New-Journal ed.(FL) (1927-29), press agt.-juvenile, touring Tab museum show,('29-30); Cleve.Press ass. sp.ed.('31-37), sp.ed, sp. columnist, & spwr.('37-58, death). Sp.ed. radio sta. WGAR, Cleve.,'37-39.Wrote 1 baseball book, My Baseball Diary; also wrote 52 other books, the most popular of which was: Studs Lonigan(1932) and it's 2 sequels in '34 and '35. Had a life-long love for baseball.

Phil. spwr; Phil. Public Ledger, Phil. Evening Bulletin(19 yrs.). Founder of Maxwell Memorial FB club. Commissioner of Middle Atlantic Intercollegiate FB Conference ('40-45).NY sp. ed.; NY World-Telegram('28), NY Sun; specialized in tennis,hockey. Had been President of United States Lawn Tennis & NY Hockey Writers Ass. Had been 6' athlete. Grad. fr.Syracuse University. WWII-Army captain,Stars&Stripes,cov.N.Afica,Sicily.Denver, Pittsburgh spwr.; In 1930, he was a reporter for Denver newspaper. Pittsburgh Press sports writer (1932- May, 1936) After spring training with the Pirates in 1936, he had to return to Denver, CO to regain his health, which suffered from the cold in Pittsburgh, PA.Chicago,NY spwr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times,Chicago American(Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Cleveland Indians exec., Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58-62),Comm.Off.('62-74); (Gallagher, continued), helped developed baseball pension plan & free agency rules NY sports writer; The Blood Horse ass. ed.& buss. man. ('35-44), American Race Horses ed.('44-46), NY Herald Tribune racing columnist & ed('46-52).NY sp.wr.; NY Times sp.wr.('26-42) & sports columnist('42-74). Authored 8 sports books. Authored numerous articles for sports magazines & publications. Won a Pulitzer prize in '56 for "outstanding commentary on the world of sports." d. heart attack

(Daley, continued), Graduated Fordham U.('26) with B.A. In 1942, he replaced John Kieran as writer of Sports of the Times. His favorite sport was baseball with football a close second.

NY spwr.; NY Times spwr. (1925), Providence Journal & Evening Bulletin reporter, feature writer (1927-39), NY World Telegram feature writer (1931-35), The New Yorker sports writer / columnist (1935-63)

NY sp.ed.: NY Daily News (1920-67), spwr.( '24-57), sp.ed. ('57-67). He started covering the Giants in '24, and also covered the Dodgers. d. heart attack

Brooklyn,NY; Began as NY World Telegram sports writer; grad HS('24), grad. U. of Penn. ('24-28), became Director of basketball of Madison Square Garden, brought college basketball to Madison Square Garden beginning Dec. 29, 1934.

Washington spwr.' Washington Post spwr. (1922-74), Even though he "retired" in '74, he continued his column "This Morning", very often.

Washington Daily News('43-47), Chicago Herald-American sp. wr. & feature wr.('47-?), Washington Post, Baltimore News American, Danbury(CT),wire ed.Waterbury Republican('67-69), Wrote sp. books, includ. bio of Walter Johnson for juveniles. d. lung cancerNY spwr.; Hudson Dispatch, NY American, NY Post (1934-72); Covered baseball, football, horse racing, hockey. Occasionally wrote a column. Wrote "The Amazing Mets" in '64, "Sandy Koufax" in '66. d. At Holy Name Hosp. In Teaneck, NJ. Had lived at 3041 Edwin Ave., Fort Lee, NJ.NY author, book critic; Graduated from Hamilton College in 1926, and began his journalism career as a reporter on the Daily Missoulian and Sentinel in Missoula, Mont. (Herald Tribune book reviewer 1948-63)St. Louis spwr.,wrestling promoter; Mov. US('11), St. Louis Star ('26-32), cov. Cardinals, etc.Worked for Tom Pax(wrestling promoter). First wrestling card: March, 1942, enlisted Army Air Force, '42, Found. Nat. Wrestling Alliance, d. internal bleeding(Muchnick) Founded Nat. Wrestiling Alliance, 1948, served as Pres. 25 yrs., '50-60, '63-77, Prom. last wrestling card, Jan.1, 1982, Considered Dean of Wrestling promoters, Formed St. Louis Wrestling Club, 1958,Bur: Memorial Park Cemetery , St. Louis, MOChicago, Louisville spwr.; Louisville Herald-Post sp.ed., Chicago Herald-Examiner spwr., Chicago Sun sp. copy desk. Left newspaper business late '40's, GM for some race tracks, including Lincoln Fields, Ascot Park, Latonia & Miles Park.

Milwaukee Sentinel('27-28),St. Louis Star sp. wr. & copy ed.('28-33), St. Louis Star-Times re-write man('33-36), Phil. Record sp. rep. & columnist(''36-45), NY Herald Tribune sp. columnist('45-67, Publishers-Hall Syndicate.('67-71), NY Times('71-82).

San Francisco spwr.: San Francisco Bulletin, San Francisco Chronicle(1927?-1935, San Francisco Examiner (1935-1976, Jan. 15)

Cle spwr; Cleveland Press spwr('36-58), columnist('58-64), WWII Army Air Corps(Armed Forces Radio Service),

Birmingham, AL spwr.; Birmingham (AL) News spwr. ('21-72), specialized in BB and golf.

Nashville sports writer; Nashville Banner('29-87), reporter('29)(sp.ed.,'30-69)(sp.director, '69-87)(VP, '55-99). Mostly football & golf sports writer. Football Writers Ass. President('60-61), National sportscasters & sports writers Hall of Fame('88).St. Louis sp. wr. newspaperman; Worked Sp. Illustrated; St. Louis Post-dispatch, St. Louis Browns PR director; Nat. Broadcasting Co. writer. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Stud. Boston U. & U. of Mass.;Boston Herald news staff('27-29, '29-47,reporter,baseball & political writer,rewrite man,ass. city ed., sp. copyreader; Boston correspondent of NY Times('47-70, sub. for regular correspondent'44-47). d. heart attack

Wash,NY Sp. Wr.; Wash. Post sp. wr.('30-33), Wash. Herald sp. ed.('33-36), NY American('36-), NY Daily Mirror(' International News Service('42-?), Wrote 25 books. Attend. Emory U. (Atlanta, GA), McGill U. (Canada); Intrntinl News Service (1920's), United Press Corr. (1930's), INS Daily columnist, UP Daily columnist, WWII, Army, McNaught Syndicate sp. columnist, picked up by 175 papers, (1940-?), (McLemore, cont.) Covered Linbergh kidnapping, Won Headliner award for his coverage in New London, TX, where 294 lives were lost in school explosion. His last few yrs. he did PR for Daytona Intrntl speedway. d. died on the beach of a heart attack

Los Angeles Examiner spwr.; Was given much credit for bringing Dodgers to Los Angeles. As a columnist, he began his campaign in the '40's to bring a team to LA. Retired by 1956. d. heart ailment

Bost. spwr; Boston Record American spwr. & columnist('30-68), became columnist in '58, covered baseball, football and hockey.

Boston sportswriter; Boston Sunday Advertiser(sportswriter), Boston Daily Record, Worcester(Mass.) Telegram, Associated Press(Boston) as sportswriter('36), World War II(lieutenant/Coast Artillery). Night editor(Associated Press,Boston) d. heart attack

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Wash.,Balt.,NY spwr.; Atlanta constitution, Richmond Times-=dispatch, NY Telgraph, Washington Post news staff ('36-?), He covered sports for the them during WWII. Washington Times-Hearald, Baltimore News-American ('54-?), retired early 70's.

Detroit spwr.; Detroit Times (1924-60), After that entered PR, and became commissioner of horse racing for the state of Michigan in 1961; Later became member of Hazel Park racing association.

Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Pittsburgh Press(sp.wr.,'30-66, sp.ed.,'66-69,Mar.31).Covered Pittsburgh Pirates since '38.Sporting News correspondent for much of that time. Pres. BBWAA('59),WWII(captain,S.Pacific,3yrs).Helped Children's Hosp. fund-raising. d. cancerLouisville sp.wr.; Louisville Courier-Journal ('40-57), Miami News (1957-69). d. After a lingering illness

NY spwr; NYU; NYU law Sch. J.D.; NY Globe, NY Evening World, NY Associated Press. NY Evening Post-Yachting,basketball wr. & night sp. ed.; Began wr. BB('33). NY Times('39-69). As ass.foreign ed.; Columbia U.jouralism prof.('50's-60's).

NY sp.wr.; The Gazette(Little Rock,AR) sp.ed., NY Mirror('43), Covered Yankees('44-58). Had been a professional wrestler for a brief time. Had been a talented entertainer at the NY baseball writers' annual dinner & show.

NY spwr; Grad.CCNY,NY Post spwr('27) columnist('44) left Post in '45 to freelance magazine articles.Became creative consultant to Hill & Knowlton,Inc. Ed. Sports Extra,coll. of classic newsp. stories by famous spwr.Wrote Sexually Active Man Past 40('68).

NY spwr., author; Attend. Fordham U., NY Telegram('30-31),NY World-Telegram('31-50), NY World Telegram & Sun(Jan.4,'50-66), NY World Journal Tribune('66-67), Ridgewood chain, left sports beat.Started as ass. man.ed., then man.ed. then exec. ed.

(King, continued) Early he was a yachting expert, covering several America cup races. Associated with NY Giants, BB & FB. Covered BB NY Giants for over 2 decades. Helped organize the NY professional FB Writers Ass. in '67. Nat. FB H of F.

United Press International spwr; former spwr, and columnist for United Press, now United Press International.

Boston spwr.; Graduated Tufts in 1933. Boston Transcript spwr. later, sp.ed.(1933-41), Boston Globe spwr. & columnist('43-73,Nov.). Authored many books. Historian, statistician, grammarian. d. heart attack

NYC Sp.wr.;NY Daily News('29-30),NY World-Telegram columnist('30-34),International News Service features('35-36),NY American('36-39),PM correspondent('41-42),Stars & Stripes('42-45),NY Post sp.wr.('45-59,72-73),NY Journal-American('59-67),Hearst('67-72)

Boston spwr.; grad. Boston U. B.S. (1932); Boston Post(1930-52), Boston Herald-Traveler columnist '64-68, U.S. Navy, 2.5 yrs. (became lieutenant), Authored over 50 books, incl. books on Piersall, Yaz, Cousy, F.Howard. d. cerebral hemorrhageDayton,OH sp. wr.; Dayton Daily News sp. ed. & columnist('28-86);Also broadcaster & author.Inducted into BB Hall of Fame(Ford Frick Award,'83),First sp. wr. elected to BB H. of F. who didn't write for ML BB city. Nat. SpWR & SPCster H of F('84). d. stroke

Detroit Free Press sportswriter('35-60),Detroit Tigers PR director('60-79),Sp.N. correspondent; Also worked for Washington Times-Herald. d. cancer

Washington, NY spwr.; New York Journal-American journalist, Washington Times-Herald general reporter & sp. wr.(?-54), Washington Post reporter,sp.wr., & columnist('54-77), wrote column for Sporting News,selection comm.BB Hall of Fame.Author:Sports WriterBoston spwr.; Boston Globe spwr.('26-66),started as nite copy boy. Enlisted WWII, Bronze Star, J.Piersal's & Ted William's ghost-writer, secretary-treasurer of BWAA, since 1958, only 5' 4.5, d. had been hospitalized since heart attack April 11, 1966.

Cincinnati,OH; sp. ed. Kentucky ed of Cincinnati Enquirer. Had been associated with Enquirer for 43 yrs & had been Kentucky edition sp. ed for 30 yrs.

St. Louis sp. announcer; St. Louis KWK radio sp. announcer for St. Louis Browns baseball team. Later switched to KWK-TV & KMOX-TV. Before he arrived in St. Louis, he worked for radio stations in Shreveport,LA, Des Moines,IA, Topeka,KS.

Columbus Citizen (1940-43, Mar.1) United Press bureau, sp. ed. Chicago office (Mar.1, 1942-46), Detroit Free Press spwr. (1947- 59, Jan.); covered Michigan sports('46-57), respected college football analyst; covered '47 &'48 national college football champions; Army induct., 11-15-43). (Devine, continued) Sporting News correspondent Miami News sp. ed. around Nov. '59-1962, Jul.). Married: Lois Ernestine Albert in Aug., 1941.

NY spwr: NY Post sp. columnist('37-73). Covered Yankees & boxing many yrs. His column was syndicated. Some books: Floyd Patterson bio. Victory Over Myself, many mag articles. d. heart ailmentson of the famous Chicago, NY spwr. Ring Lardner;

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Southwestern regional sp. ed. for UPI for more than 20 yrs.; Joined news service in '41 after serving as sp. ed.of 2 papers in Tyler,TX. With UPI, he handled sports in 9 state area. In 1971, he transferred to general news dept. for southwest area.

St. Louis spwr.; attended Washington U. in St. Louis. Associated Press for 2 yrs. St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1936-69). Covered all sports, recent yrs. FB. Buried: Calvary Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

AP,Memphis,NY spwr; Nashville Evening Tennessean spwr & sp.ed.('32-43), Memphis AP news correspondent & national columnist('43-47), NY AP spwr. ('47-85,Jan.). He specialized in golf,tennis,college football, Olympics. (Grimsley, continued) He covered most major events in boxing, baseball, football, horse racing. From '77-84, wrote daily nationally syndicated sp. column, "Grimsley's Sports World". Contributed over 200 articles to magazines. Elected Spwr of Yr. 4 times.

Louisville sp.wr.; Corbin Tribune(KY), Harland Enterprise(KY), Arrived in Louisville('41), head of Louisville Times sp. Dept., Louisville Courier-Journal sp. ed.('69-73), d. heart attack

St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Globe-Democrat (1959) Buried: Catholic Resurrection Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Providence, RI spwr.; Providence Journal-Bulletin (RI) spwr. (1946-75). Was a correspondent for Sporting News.

Jacksonville,FL spwr.; a sports and entertainment columnist for the Jacksonville Journal (FL), d. followed an operation. Left more than $1m to churches, schools, and charities.

Boston spwr.; Boston Record-American spwr. & harness racing writer. (1935-65). He joined the paper as a copy boy for his father, Sp. ed. John B. Gillooly.Cincinnati sp. wr., BB author; Reds PR writer('38-39,43-45), Gruen Watch Co(Cinc.,OH,40-42), WSAI(Cincinnati radio sta,sp. brdcaster,('48-50); KYW(Phil. radio sta. brdcaster,('51-53); Cincinnati Times-Star & Cincinnati Enquirer(45-58)(Allen,continued), Baseball Hall of Fame historian('59-69). Brought 55 cartons of books & record files to Cooperstown,NY BB H of Fame.

Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Attend Coe College ('40), Army ('42-46). Cedar Rapids Gazette reporter (1940-47), Pittsburgh Press (spwr. '47-61, sp. columnist, '63-69, sp.ed., '69-72, gen. col., '72--), Evansville Sunday Courier & Press sp.ed. (Ind.) (1961-63),

NY spwr.; NY Sun (1935-50) covered Brooklyn Dodgers, Conducted a column where he called himself "The Old Scout". NY Rangers Publicity director (1956-65), ABC PR staff. d. North Shore Hosp., Manhasset, L.I., NY., after heart surgery.Philadelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Phillies beat writer from 1946 until 1972, retired from the Inquirer in 1979 and was a member of the Hall of Fame's Veterans Committee from 1979 until 2000. He served as chairman of Major League Baseball's Scoring(Lewis, continued) Scoring Committee from 1960 to 1974. He briefly covered the Philadelphia Warriors of the Basketball Association of America, the fore-runner of the NBA, and chronicled that team's championship in 1946.

(Lewis, continued) In 1981, Lewis was awarded the J.G. Taylor Spink Award, which gained him admission to the writers' wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame. He graduated in 1940 from Haverford College, where he played on the football and baseball teams.(Lewis, continued) He was drafted the following year and achieved the rank of Air Force captain by the end of the Second World War. Lewis came out of retirement in 1980 to assist with the Inquirer's coverage of the Phillies' World Series triumph,(Lewis, continued) and later provided a weekly baseball trivia question for Sunday papers.

Cleveland spwr.; Grad. Western reserve U. BA. (1938), HS chemistry & math teacher (& ahtletic coach) in Euclid, OH, 1938-48: Cleveland News sp. reporter & columnist,'1948-60, Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist, '60-84, sp.ed., '64-84.

(Lebovitz, cont.) Sporting News, columnist, '70-92. Gannett Syndicate, '79-82. Dir. Cleve. Jewish News, '71-89;baseball umpire, '37-50, FB ofcl., '4071, basketball ofcl., '4060; Sporting News Cleve. corr., '50-64, FB ofcl., '40-71.

Battle Creek Enquirer(MI) sp.ed., Battle Creek News(MI) sp.ed. d. heart attack

NY spwr.; NY Daily News sportswriter, columnist, sp. ed. (1942-82), NY post spwr. and sp. ed. NY Post (1982-87).St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch staff writer, 1945-58, sp. ed. '58-85, & ass. to publisher '77-85. His columns appeared in TSN until the 1980's.

NY spwr.; NY Mirror spwr. & reporter, copy ed., rewrite man, Long Island Star spwr. NY Morning Telegraph copy ed. a horse racing pub. Atlanta sp. ed.; Lumberton Voice ed.('38-39),High Point Enterprise wire service & sp. ed.('39-40),Charlotte News(state ed.,'40-42, sp.ed.,46-50),Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('50-57),Atlanta Journal & Sunday Journal-Constitution('57-pres.),Sp.News columnist

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Boston spwr.; Began with Boston Globe as copy boy in 1936, after grad. HS. Began covering sports in '40, when he reported his 1st ML game. After WWII army service, covered both ML teams. Still covered Red Sox by '62, when promoted to ass. Sp. Ed.(Holbrook, continued) Executive Assistant/Secretery to 3 AL Pres. (1965-85), consultant to league '85 to 90. Later worked briefly as public relations ass. for Red Sox. d. St. Elizabeth's Medical Center, Boston,MA

Los Angeles sp.wr.; Trinity College(Hartford,CT) BA('41), Moved Hollywood('44). Los Angeles Examiner('44-48). Wrote for Time Magazine('48-61).Won National Sportswriter of the Year 4 times('64, '66, '77, '79). d. cardiac arrest(Murray, continued), Helped found Sports Illustrated('53), Doctor of Literature('81), Pepperdine U. Doctor of Laws("87), BB's Hall of Fame Spink Award('88), Pulitzer Prize('90), Buried: Holy Cross Cemetery & Mausoleum, Culver City, CASt. Louis sp. wr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch('47-Sept.'90), covered the Cardinals from '58-77. covered the '64, '67, '68. d. congestive heart failureBaseball author & magazine writer of articles; Magazine X('46-47), Holiday('47-56), New Yorker fiction ed. & general contributor('56-?),

NY sp. wr. Long Island Press('46-77,March), NY Daily News, Covered Dodgers till they left, Covered Yankees ('58-61), Covered Mets since they started. Won Taylor Spink in '86, inductee to BB H of F. Dayton; Sp. ed. of Dayton(OH)Journal,Herald Journal (Dayton,OH), Dayton(OH)DailyNews. Wrote:The Cincinnati Reds, a pictorial history of professional baseball's oldest team(1976), Men of the Machine(1977). & several other sports books. Spink Award('92).Boston sp. wr.; Boston Traveler sp. wr., Boston Herald American, Boston Traveler(?-'67), Boston Record American('67-

NY sp. wr.; book ed.,newspaper ed., High School teacher; lived in Laguna Beach,CABB author: Main claim to fame< his superb book, The Glory of Their Times. He took the title from the passage in Biblical Ecclesiasticus: "All thes were honord in their generations and were the glory of their times." Grad. Indiana U. , Doctorate from Wisconsin. Also wrote text for "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", with Mark Rucker (1988). After Ty Cob died in '66, Laurence traveled 75,000 around the country with a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and interviewed 22 ballplayers from Ty's era. He made only

about $35,000 profit from around 360,000 book sales, due to his sharing his royalties with those players he interviewed. He turned the original tapes over to the BB Hall of Fame. They are now available in excerpt form in CD or tape cassette format.Professor of Finace and Economics at NYC for 30 yrs. "I don't like the players, I don't like the umpires, I don't like the owners, but I love the game." Interested in BB since 1931. d. at his Manhattan apt., after a series of strokes. Bronxville Review-Press ad. manager('48-49), Westchester Herald ad. manager('49), Collier's Encyclopedia ass. ed.('50-54), Sports Illustrated-staff writer('54-55), ass.ed.('550?), senior ed.(?-'85); authored 8 baseball books, numerous BB & sports articles

Alton,IL sp. wr.; Alton Telegraph(TN) sp. wr., Sporting News(St. Louis), Had also worked for papers in South Dakota, Illinois and Indiana. d. lung cancer

Cinc. sp. wr.; Cincinnati Times-Star ('51-58), Cincinnati Post ('58-84), Spink Award (Baseball Hall of Fame, '86).

Born Moscow, moved US 1928, NY Herald sp. wr.('48-54), NY Post sp.wr.('54-63), NY Times sp.wr.('63-73), NY Times correspondent in Palo Alto,CA('73-78), Peninsula Times-Tribune sp. ed.(Palo Alto,CA, '79-93). Spink Award (BB, Hall of Fame, '93)(Koppett, continued) Leonard was vastly interested in history, opera, classical music, Marx Bros. movies. He thought expansion was a disaster for baseball. He was also vastly interested in a statistical analysis approach to baseball.

Chicago sp.wr.author; Las Vegas Daily Optic, South Bend Tribune, Chicago Tribune('44-82); In 1955 he took over the "Wake of the News" column from Arch Ward & held it until he retired('82).Specialized in football.

Chicago New World Weekly, sp. columnist,('47-48), Columbian Weekly general columnist('48-56), Chicago Daily News beat writer, covered & traveled with both the Cubs & White Sox('57-65), Baseball Digest ass. ed.('69-present). Authored Heartbreakers('01),NY sports writer; Raised in Hudson Falls in Adirondacks, NY, and Upper Darby, PA. Left NYU in jr. yr. to enlist in Army Air Forces. Became pilot / flight instructor. Returned college, 1945 Received bachelor's degree economics, 1946, and yr. later earned master's degree from Graduate Sch. Journalism at Columbia University. reporter Newark Evening News, 1947. Months later, moved radio station WINS ( New York) as news and sp. Writer. Soon became director news and special events. In 1950 became copy ed. on nat. news desk of NY Times. Assistant to nat. news ed., head of the city copy desk and ass. city ed. Became a sportswriter in 1964. NY Times spwr. '64-2001. Voted Taylor Spink Award in 1995, (BB H of F). D. University Hospital in Stony Brook, N.Y of cancer. His Books: My Luke & I (1976), bio of Gehrig with his wife Eleanor. Casey & Mr. McGraw (1989). The Days of Mr. McGraw (1969). Others on Mets, Mantle, Ford, DiMaggio, World Series, Tug McGraw. He liked writing about NY stuff.Tacoma, NY spwr.: Tacoma Nes Tribune, Tacoma Times, Oregonian (Portland), Spokane Daily Chronicle, all before 1948. NYC Newspaper Enterprise Ass., Ass. Sp. Ed. (1950-54); Wrote 2 books on Ty Cobb. One of them was The Tiger Wore Spikes (juvenile)1956, Ty Cobb, 1975.

(McCallum, continued) Attended Washington State U. '42-43, '45-47, & NYU, 1943, A.S. Barnes & Co., Inc., NYC, Dir. Of Premium Bk. Div., 1954-58; lecturer for Antrim Bureau., Phil., PA & Nat. Sch. Assemblies, LA, CA, 1963-71, full-time writer, 1971-. Member of sports committee. US Army, 1943-45.

Kansas City,KS sp. ed.; Lawrence Journal-World sp. ed.; PR director for Kansas City Royals in 1968. Assistant news ed. of Pittsburg Morning Sun (Kansas).

Valdosta,GA spwr; Macon(GA) Telegraph, Thomasville (GA) Times-Enterprise, Valdosta Daily Times sp. ed.

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Kansas City sp.wr.;Attended Marquette University;Tulsa World, Kansas City Star('48-92).Covered the Kansas City Blues baseball team in the AA league from '51, When the Phil. Athletics moved from Phil. to Kansas City,MO in '55, started covering them until(McGuff, continued), they left in '68. He became sp.ed in '66 and vice-president & editor from '86 until he retired in '92. He was former President of the BWAA and was voted outstanding Missouri sp.wr. 6 times, member of Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

Baltimore sports writer; Baltimore News-Post reporter(1945,sp.ed., - 1956), Baltimore News-American,Baltimore Evening Sun('80's), Baltimore Sun('95-2000,Dec.3). wrote 7 books, d. cancer

NY & Detroit spwr; AP copyboy, NYC ('45-51), NY spwr.('51-53), AP sp. ed., Det.,('53-56), Detroit Times spwr.('56-60), Detroit Free Press spwr.('60-65) sp.ed. & columnist('66-78), Detroit News sp.ed. & columnist (1978-2004, death); Sporting News correspondent('65-85). Won Spink Award in 2002. (Falls, continued) Mr. Falls covered 50 World Series, 20 Kentucky Derbys, 15 Super Bowls, 20 Masters and United States Open golf tournaments, 25 Indianapolis 500's, and assorted events such as Rose Bowls, Stanley Cup finals, and NBA finals.

Sp. wr.; Tulas World(before & after WWII), Fort Worth Star-Telegram,Daily Oklahoman(OK. City), San Diego Union('50-80), also free-lanced for New York Times Magazine, New Yorker, Newsweek, and others. d. 3 month fight against cancer.

Dayton sp.wr.; Grad. Kent State U. Sch. of Journalism. BBWAA Pres.('97), Cinc. BBWAA chapter chair 22 times, instrumental in Pete Rose investigation , Dayton Daily News spwr., covered Reds from 1970 on. (McCoy, cont.) Wrote gutsy, courageous stories on Cincy owner, Marge Schott, got himself exiled from her media room 4 times. Didn't deter his typewriter. Kept writing them straight. Won Taylor Spink Award in 2002, Baseball's Sportswriters Hall of Fame.

Logan,UT sports editor; of the Logan(Utah) Herald; died of a rare disease that attacks the motor nerve centers; Wrote columns by secretary typing his dictation, due to loss of use of his arms & legs.Lowell Sun(MA) sp. wr.; covered Bruins & Red Sox. d. following open heart surgery.Boston spwr.; Boston Globe columnist(1969-86), Sports Illustrated sr. writer(1982-90), ML baseball studio analyst, ESPN, 1988- , columnist, 1990Washington,DC sp.wr.; graduated St. Stephen's School in Alexandria,VA. Bachelor's degree(Amherst College,'69); Washington Post sp. wr.('69-present).Sports Illustrated sportswriter; Sportswriter of the Year 6 times; Contributing editor to Newsweek, Contributor to HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work;

Voice of Detroit Tigers('33-51); Detroit Tigers OF('14-29),Reds OF('30,32)Ty Cobb made him hitter;Just average 1st 7 seasons.Cobb tutored him,reworked his stance & Heilmann became terror. He remained Cobb's friend. d. lung cancer.Chicago sports announcer; 1st tried announcing at a track meet in Dallas in 20's, later he announced the All-Star football game in Chicago, the Golden Gloves national finals and most major boxing matches in Chicago.Boston sportscaster; Red Sox Public address announcer, also for professional hockey and basketball games in the Boston Garden.Voice of Senators('34-56);Began Senators class A, Chattanooga Lookouts,Cal Griffith brought him to Washington('34),Called action on WJSV,WTOP, Redskins. Dubbed DiMaggio Yankee Clipper.Called for Yankees('39).Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame -'99).(McDonald, continued) Won Sporting News Best Broadcaster of year 3 times ('32, '42, '45),

Voice of White Sox,Cubs; White Sox('28-41, 46-70), Chicago Cubs('28-41), Oakland Athletics('71). Ford Frick Award('79, Hall of Fame). did 1st on-field interview(Connie Mack,1931). Called 12 WS, 9 All-Star games. Voted twice by Sp. News Announcer of Yr.Spanish Voice of Yankees (?-72); Began as writer with Staten Island Advance (NY), AP, 7 yrs.,Havas (French wire service), Agency France-Press (French News Service), NBC Gillette Cavalcade of Sports Spanish announcer ('37-70), 42 WS. Ford Frick Award (H of F, 1985).

Voice of Reds('34-38),Dodgers('39-53),Yankees('54-66); His gentle southern tones & down-home style endeared him to generations of American sports fans. Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'78). d. pneumonia & kidney ailmentsVoice of Cleveland Indians('47-67),Seattle Pilots('69); U. of Virginia(chemistry),WWII(Army Air Corps pilot), Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Browns(50's), Baltimore Colts, Ohio St. FB games. d. Alzheimer's disease, last 2 yrs. in special care home, strokeVoice of Washington Senators, Yankees, Giants; Washington Senators announcer('38-45), New York Yankees announcer('46-48), New York Giants('49-57, SF, '58-70). Ford Frick Award('80, Hall of Fame). U. Kentucky law degree.Voice of Yanks('38-64); Began broadcasting as undergraduate at U. of Alabama, called many WS, Long time voice of This Week in Baseball, Highly articulate, extremely knowledgeable, Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'78). El Cemetery, Stanford, CTVoice of Cards('48); Attended Akron U., broadcast sports in Akron, Toledo, Salt Lake City. In Toledo, did the Mud Hens', in St. Louis did St. Louis Cardinals. Had been a basketball & FB official & fight referee. In '52, refereed bouts at Helsinki Oly.Voice of Cards('44-69),White Sox('70-81),Cubs('81-97) Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'89) d. heart attack

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Sportscaster; Grad.Texas Christian U.;Announced Phil. A's games('38-54)&Phillies games('39-49,55-75).Ford Frick Award('90),Broadcaster Pioneers of Phil.'s Hall of Fame('93). Also called college & pro football,college & pro basketball, hockey. d. strokeBaseball announcer; Cubs (1949, teamed with Rogers Hornsby), Phillies (1950-51, teamed with Gene Kelly), Senators, Announced LA Lakers , LA Angels, LA Rams, Southern Cal FB & basketball, UCLA basketball, Detroit Lions, NFL Pro Bowls.

Chicago Sportscaster;Cubs('40-44,48,50-81),Bears,White Sox('45,48-67), NY Giants('46),NBC('50-54,59),MUT('52),Bulls; Ford Frick Award(BB Hall of Fame,'83) d. heart failure

Voice of the Los Angeles Lakers(Dec.16,'61-Jun.,12,02; set a record similar to Lou Gehrig & Cal Ripken in announcing 3,317 consecutive basketball games for the Los Angeles Lakers(Nov.21,'65 - Jun. 12, '02), d. from head injuries from a fall at his home.(Hearn, continued), Earned awards galore; '91 Basketball Hall of Fame, lifetime achievement Victor Award, 3 Golden Mikes, 2 Nat. Sportscaster of the Year, 7 Cal. Sportscaster of the Year, 1st ever Cable Ace, '91 Cedars-Sinai Journalist of Year,(Hearn, continued),Earned '65 Emmy for Excellence in Basketball coverage & Academy of Television Arts & Sciences 50th Anniversary Award;Also broadcast NCAA & NFL football, UNLV basketball, PGA golf,1st Ali-Frazier,Rose Bowl,Pro tennis, Attend. Bradley U.good college FB player, made '36 US Olympic team, d. complications from heart surgery at Lennox Hill Hosp.,NYC

Sportscaster; ML BB announcer from 1947, Worked for NY Giants, Baltimore Orioles, Voice of Detroit Tigers('60-02). Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'81).

Voice of Mets('61-78); NY Giants announcer('79-81), Grad. U. of Tennesse(journalism), Columbia,TN reporter, WWII(9th infantry div.), Notre Dame FB(13 yrs.), 25 Cotton Bowls, NFL(20 yrs.),Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'88),Nat. Sp.Wr & Sp. Ann. H. of F.,'79).(Nelson, continued), He also broadcast Tennessee and SEC FB games for many yrs. He died from Parkinson's disease and pneumonia. There's always been confusion over exactly where he was born & died.

Voice of Red Sox; Began in '44 Cheyenne,Wyoming doing minor league baseball(Koma, OK).Big break came '49 w/ Mel Allen / Yankees.Red Sox announcer('50-66). NBC Game of the week('66-76). 13 WS, 16 all-star games, 1976 Montreal Olympics, Super Bowls.Boston, Wash, Balt, sportscaster; d. several weeks after open heart surgery. Broadcast many sports, incl. BB, FB & Basketball. Member of Red Sox Broadcasting team until spring of '72. Had been play-by-play man for Senators, Colts & Balt. Bullets.

Voice of Orioles; Family moved to east section of Reading('27), Began Reading,PA('39), Phillies,Athletics announcer('47-48), Baltimore Orioles Intern' league announcer('49), Baltimore Orioles' announcer('54-56, 62-87,91-occasional), Senators('57-61);(Thompson, continued), Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame, '93). Voice of Baltimore Colts

Voice of Minnesota Twins('62-2003); Richmond,VA(WMBG), WSYR(Syracuse), Springfield(MA) Cubs, Phillies & Athletics('54), Baltimore Orioles('57-61), Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame - '96). BASE-1994-95.Voice of the Giants, 1958-73, 76-78, 96-00; Voice of the Oakland Athletics, 1981-95, NBC 1962; Received the Ford Frick Award in 2004, as lifetime achievement award for sportscasters. BB Hall of Fame.Voice of Red Sox;Duke U.;WW2(marines);Began calling minor league BB in W.Vir.('56), Boston Patriots('65), Began calling Red Sox games('61) with Curt Gowdy & stayed until his '92 retirement. Called '75 WS d. heart attack at Raleigh,NC airport Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'87); Started calling Cardinals' games on radio in 1954, first teaming with Harry Carey till '70, and from 72-00 with former Cardinal's 3rd basemen, Mike Shannon. Called Super Bowls('70,78-84), World Series, pro bowling, etc.

Voice of Mets('62-03, radio & TV, 1982- radio); Muskogee Reds(OK), Boston Red Sox announcer('54-59), Baltimore Orioles announcer('60-61), Ford Frick Award('94, Hall of Fame), Had distinctive mid-western baritone voice. D. Hospice in W. Palm Beach, FL, lung cancer.Voice of Cardinals; St. Louis Cardinals announcer('55-64), Yankees announcer('65-67), California Angels announcer('90), presently announces for Arizona Diamondbacks. Ford Frick Award(BB H of F, '91), NBC(WS,all-star games,Game of Week,Today Show,'62-73).Voice of Baltimore Orioles('66-82); 32 yr. veteran of sports broadcasting. d. cancer at John Hopkins Hosp.Radio Voice of Florida Marlins('93-present); Radio Salas,Havana,Cuba('45), Pro Voice of BB in Puerto Rico & Venezuela for over 30 yrs. Did over 40 Caribbean World Series since '49. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame,2001). Left Cuba('62) because of Castro.

(Ramirez, cont.),For 3 decades,Rafael shared the mike with Buck Canal on Gillette Cavalcade of Sports('50-80's),broadcast over largest network of Hispanic radio stations ever assembled. Has done dozens of WS & all-star games to throughout Latin America.Voice of Astros, Braves; Grad. U. of Iowa(radio speech), Well-traveled ML announcer.Had announced for: St. Louis Browns('53), Cardinals('54), Cubs('56-57, 80-84), White Sox('62-65), Braves('66-75), Pirates('76-79), Astros('85-03).Smooth,knowlegableVoice of Dodgers('50-03); Grad. Fordham U.('49), Ford Frick Award(H of F,'82), joined the Dodgers in '50 & worked with Red Barber as a team from '50-53, who served as a role model & mentor.

FB telecaster; Grad. Louisiana State U., Worked for stations in Louisiana, San Francisco-Oakland. Returned Texas('60). Had done minor league BB games & Houston Oiler games. Sp. Dir. of KPRC-TV in Houston,did NFL games since '68. Worked on 2 Super Bowls.

Spanish Voice of Dodgers('59-03);Attended U. of Quito,Ecuador(Engineering,Jouralism,letters,philosophy,broadcasting), Moved Cal.('55),Sports director(KWKW), Before the station sent him on road,he re-broadcast games to Latino audiences by re-creating games

(Jarrin, continued), being called live by Vin Scully. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame,'98).Golden Mike Award("70). Was in terrible auto accident in '90, almost lost his life.Voice of Phillies('71-97; Grad. U. of Iowa('59)(Bachelor Arts-Speech, Radio, TV), Army('59-61), sp. dir.(KGU-'61-64),Astro's announcer(65-70),Also called Big 5 basketball & Notre Dame football. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame, '02).(Kalas, continued), also announced Notre Dame football, 3 Emmies for NFL films, covered 7 playoff series, 3 World Series, covered Phillies for 27 yrs. with his partner Richie Ashburn.

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Voice of Cincinnati Reds('74-03); U. of N.Carolina('65), High Point,N.Carolina, Salisbury,N.Carolina, Norfolk,VA, Virginia Squires(Amer. Basketball Ass.-'70), Tidewater Mets(AAA - '71), numerous WS on radio(NBC)

Voice of Orioles,Giants; A's('74),Rangers('78-79),Red Sox('80-82),Orioles('81-96), Giants('97-pres.), ESPN's Sunday Night BB announc.('90-pres.). Authored:Confessions of a Baseball Purist(2000). Ultra-smooth imperturbable tone, but way too much a homer. (Miller, cont.),Jon might be most professional announcer ever to work a baseball mike. Never loses control. Never got lost in anecdotes & neglected ball-strike count. Silky-smooth, informed, detailed delivery. A must for Ford Frick Award. Why not now?

Voice of Senators);Grad. Duke; radio('39), moved TV('46), Washington Senators('47-60),MUT('50), Minnesota Twins('61), NBC('62-64,G.of Week), ABC('65), MUT('56), NBC('58,61-62). Has done most sports,D.Larsen's Perf.g('56);Ford Frick Award('95,H of F).(Wolff, continued), had nightly TV, radio sports show, syndicated his baseball interview shows to other big-league cities, wrote a syndicated baseball column, led the Knothole Gang. WS('56, 58,61).Moved NYC('66),Madison Square Garden('54-89).

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Giants Owner 1903-12: Originally owned Cincinnati BB franchise & was a stock holder of the New York Giants BB franchise. He also owned Indianapolis of the minor American League.St. Louis Cardinals owner(1892-97); made fortune in beer brewing, had famous St. Louis saloon, Also managed St. Louis Nationals in 1892,95-97. d. cirrosis of liver, buried in Bellefontaine Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Vilest & most hated owner of BB team ever,White Sox('01-31).Caused 1919 "Black Sox" crises. Paid his players a third of what other vile cheap owners paid comparable players.He,Landis, Ban Johnson pollute BB's Hall of Fame,MUST be booted out !

(Comiskey,continued),THE most despicable & viscous abuser of BB's heinous"reserve clause", he paid Joe Jackson $6,000/yr. from '15-19, when Cobb,Collins,Speaker were drawing $15,000-20,000/yr.All his players were similarly abused by this horrific villain.(Comiskey,continued), In 1919 Comiskey promised his star pitcher, Eddie Cicotte a $10,000. bonus if he won 30 games, and after Cicotte had won 29 games, Comiskey ordered manager Kid Gleason to bench him 2 weeks before season ended. Cicotte then agreed(Comiskey,contiuned), to throw his Series games after local gamblers paid him $10,000. upfront. Clean Sox: Joe Jackson, Collins, Schalk, Buck Weaver, Kerr. Jackson, Weaver played their hearts out, railroaded by Landis & Comiskey. BB owns them debt!!!Dodgers owner(1898-1925);Bought small amount of stock((1890), Secretary ball club(1896), elected Pres. ball club even though minor stockholder(1898), Originally owned 10% of Baltimore BB franchise d. suffered heart dis. several yrs. d. at Waldorf-Astoria

owned the Philadelphia Phillies and the Washington Senators for a brief period. Partner in The Wagner Brothers, which earned their fortune in the ship outfitting business.Cubs owner('21-32); minority stockholder in Cubs('16).By '21, sole owner. Made his fortune selling his Wrigley gum. Turned over gum business to son Phillip in'23, who also inherit. Cubs upon his Dad's death in '32. d. heart ailment,buried Catalina Is.

Cleveland Indians owner('22-28); widow of James C. (Jack) Dunn,who owned the Indians from 1916 to his death in '22. She never served as club Pres. She retained Ernest S. Barnard.

St. Louis Browns owner(Jan.,1917-32). Buried Bellefontaine cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Pirates Owner('00-32); Born Germany, Arrived US(1881), prior to buying Pirates in 1900, He owned the Louisville Colonels in NL 1899. d. died while in NYC, buried in West View Cemetery, Pittsburgh,PARed Sox owner('13-'16,Nov.); Real estate tycoon; owner of Hotel Granada,Lafayette St. & Rockaway Place,Brooklyn,NY & Garden City Hotel,Garden City,LI,NY. d. suicide, jumped from 9th floor of his Granada Hotel in Brooklyn. Squeezed through 15" window.(Lannin, continued) 9th of 10 kids, left Quebec area, due to economics, in 1880's, started as bellhop Adams Hotel, then doorman, then management. Invested in coffee futures/real estate, loved BB/ checkers. June 26, 2004, Canadian BB Hall of Fame induction.Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis(Farrell, continued) Mr. Farrell had also owned racing enterprises, and racing horses, gambling houses, and asorted other business interests.Yankee owner('15-39); Used mortgage on Fenway Pk to coerce Frazee to "give" his stars away & launch 1st NY dynasty using re-cycled Sox stars, incl.E.Scott,J.Dugan,B.Ruth,H.Pennock,C.Mays,J.Bush,S.Jones,W.Schang,W.Hoyt,E.Shore,D.Lewis,S.O'Neil, Ed Barrow.Ruppert was best owner in BB. Proves good people make terrible mistakes."Rape of Red Sox" is worst scandal in BB, after racism & the reserve clause. Where was Landis?Rejecting pleas from Buck Weaver. d. phlebitis, buried Kensico Cemetery, Westchester, CT.(Ruppert,continued),Died at his 5th Ave. apt. in Manhattan,NY. Was a devout Roman Catholic, confirmed bachelor. At his death, his worth was estimated at between $40-50m, & he gave a third of it to his former actress friend Helen Winthrope Weyant.

Co-Owner NY Yankees;w/Ruppert,bought team for $480,000. fr. Frank Farrell & William S. Devery in '15;Was VP. A civil engineer,contractor & agriculturist,he supervised much of construction of Yankee Stad, which cost about $3m.Sold his interest to(Huston)Ruppert(June,'23) for $1,250,000. Often at odds with Ban Johnson.Got 7 injunctions against him preventing Johnson from suspending Carl Mays. In '37, offered $1.7m for Dodgers, as head of syndicate. Intended to install night lights. Offer refused.(Huston, continued) He is buried at Frederica's Christ Episcopal church Cemetery, St. Simon Island, GASt. Louis Browns owner & Pres.('03-15), His capital brought the franchise from Milwaukee to St. Louis. Bought club for $35K., sold it to Phil Dec. Ball for $424K. At his park, he insisted on decency, cleanliness, and courtesy to the public. (Hedges, cont.) He kept his grandstand meticulously clean, didn't allow rowdies, the saloon bar was eliminated from the park. Built modern grandstand. d. Carcinoma of left lung, at Barnes Hosp, St. Louis, MO, buried in Cincinnati, OH on Apr. 25, 1932Boston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,1912--1916,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Mrs. Huston married the Colonel on Feb. 27,1890 at Hancock County,OH. They both are buried at Frederica Cemetery, St. Simons Island,GA. The Colonel died at Butler Island Plantation,McIntosh county,Brunswick,GA. Children:Bernice,Frances,Arthur.Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston & Philadelphia teams. Built wealth as a coal dealer. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans clubWashington Senators owner('20-55); ML pitcher(1891-1914), Senators manager('01-20),

Detroit Tigers owner('08-35); Became half-owner('07), Started as a bookkeeper/cashier in detroit state insurance agency. Later, entered law office of his brother, Thomas J. Navain, and took law classes. Admitted to Mich. state bar. In '03, asked to(Navin, continued) help run Detroit club for owner, S. F. Angus. He purchased $5,000. worth of stock in club, when Bill Yawkey bought team. Navin became half-owner in '07, and full owner in '08. Ty Cobb, Detroit's great star, made Navin & club wealthy.Inherited Pirates from husband,Barney Dreyfuss,upon his death, Feb. 5,1932, and sold team to group(Aug.8,'46) headed by Frank McKinney of Indianapolis includ. Bing Crosby, who was made VP, for an estimated $2.75 million. m. Dreyfuss(Oct.16,1894).Cubs owner('16-19);Chicago chain restauranter,own. Chicago Whales,Federal League BB team('14-15), built Wrigley Field for them.When Fed L. folded,bought Cubs from Charles M. Murphy.Wrigley, Jr. got controlling interest('19) d. stroke,Drake Hotel,ChicagoRed Sox owner (late 1903-1911); Started in the editorial & advertising dept. of the Boston Globe, of which his father was a founder. After he sold his stock, he retired to the VP position

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Detroit Tigers owner(03-07); lumber & mining interests made him wealthy; bought half-interest in Detroit BB franchise from Angus for $35,000 in '03. On Jan.22,'04, bought Angus' other half for $25,000., becoming sole owner. Made Ed Barrow his manager.(Yawkey, continued) d. of influenza, while on an automobile trip. His nephew, Thomas Austin Yawkey inherited half of his uncle's estate, estimated at $40 M.

Detroit Tigers owner('35-52), bought 25% of Tigers('20), bought another 25%('27), bought rest of team, when Frank Navin died('35). Made his fortune in Detroit's auto industry. Took no money out of his team, ploughing all profits back, plus own money.

Boston Braves owner('23,Feb.-36); Pres.('27-35), Managed his own team in 1929. Lost over $1m during his tenure. d. after 10 week illness(Fuchs, continued), Formerly a wealthy NYC attorney, he paid $550,000. for his team, and was $300,000. in debt when he sold the team. Although not required to legally, he later paid off the debts. Had been a NYC magistrate('15-18). Grad. NYU law school.Red Sox owner(Nov.,'16-23,Aug.1);Bought team fr. Joseph J. Lannin, sold to synd. put headed by Bob Quinn, who was financially backed by Palmer Winslow, glass tycoon from Indiana, who suddenly died. d. Bright's disease, Kensice Cemetery, Valhalla,NY White Sox owner('31-39),got team when father died('31),rebuilt team to respectability.Appointed VP & treasurer('10),2 yrs. later contracted scarlet fever, ill rest of life.Weighed 380 lbs.,started farm system, install. nt. Lts. d. heart disease,pneumoniaReds owner(June,'36-61); Pres.('34-46); industriaist,manufacturer of radio sets & appliances, former auto maker, head of Crosley Broadcasting corp., developer of radio station SLS, d. heart attackWhite Sox part-owner; had been associated with Bill Veeck in his operation of the Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns & White Sox. Had made his money as Pres. of A.C. Allyn & Co., Chicago investment concern. d. Presbyterian-St. Luke's Hosp.

Reds GM('35-36),Dodgers('38-42),Yankee owner('45-47). Elkland township Cemetery, Cass City, MIWhite Sox owner(March 4,'41-56,death); Married John Louis Comiskey('13) when she was only 20 yrs old, son of Charles A. Comiskey, founder of the White Sox, and the only woman to head a team in the history of the AL. m. Paul John Plato d. heart attackSt. Louis Browns owner('36-45);Friday,Aug.10,'45,Richard Muckerman buys out Barnes interests in Browns,giving him 50%. Barnes began finance co. at Springfield,Il('17),10 yrs. later present co. was incor.,moved St. Louis,IL d..complications after operation

Chicago Cubs owner('32-77);Inherited Wrigley gum business('23) & Cubs team('32) from father;refused to install lights at his ballpark,only park without night gamesAvoided limelight. .Incredibly honest,generous. Loved baseball with all his heart.

Pirates Owner('46-85,Pres.,'51-69);part of 4man syndicate('46)purchasing team.In '51 bought 70% of club,hired Branch Rickey.Lost around $2m but never lost faith & heart.Helped formulate '57 player's pension.Sold majority interest('85) in Pirates.St.Louis Cardinals Owner, Came from a line of successful St. Louis beer brewers; Beer is the source of the family wealth; Cardinals Pres.('53-89). Buried at Bellefontaine Cemetery, St. Louis, MOYankees co-owner w/Daniel Topping('54-66), Both also functioned as co-Presidents. d. complications following surgery for lung cancer, cremated, ashes scattered over ArizonaBrooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness(Woods, continued) Jimmy Woods also served as publicity man for fight promoters Andy Neiderreiter, and Humberto (Jack) Fugazy. He served in the Navy during WWI.

San Diego Padres' owner('74-83), Pres.('77-80). Bought the Padres in '74 for $10 million. Gave up operating control of Padres in Aug.,'79. Had made his fortune as founder of McDonald Corporation, fast food chain. d. heart failureNY Principal owner of Mets,('61-68), Pres.('68-75). Buried: Falmouth Forside Cemetery, Falmouth-Ford Forside, MERed Sox Owner & Pres.(Feb.,'33-76). d. leukemia, cremated, ashes scattered over Winyah Bay, SCGiants owner('36-76);At the age of 33, he inherited team from his father Charles upon his death Jan.7,'36. Had become club executive('29). Plucked Dodger manager, Leo Durocher, from cross-town rivals in mid-season '48. Bad attendance('56-57), plus losing Pirates VP '47- '60's. Owned 15% of Pirates. d. Heart attack, buried at Holy Cross Catholic cemetery, Culver City, Los Angeles county, CADodger owner('50-79),Dodger lawyer('43-50),deprived Brooklyn fans of their beloved team when he moved the Dodgers to LA('58). LA's hero was Brooklyn's arch super-criminal. By '50, owned majority of stock,after forcing Branch Rickey to sell him his shares.LA Angels Owner('60-96), Also functioned as Pres.('77-90), In 1990, due to his illness, his wife Jackie assumed the active overseeing of the team operation. d. cancer, buried Forrest Lawn, Hollywood Hills, CADetroit Tigers owner(Jan.27,'52-56,Jul.); Tigers were sold to 11 man syndicate for $5.5 million. He stayed on as VP till the next spring. Owned Detroit Lions in National Football league. Supervised building of Tiger stadium.Red Sox owner('76-92), Started out as fashion model and sales clerk at Jay Thorpe(exclusive women's clothes shop(NYC),widow of long-time Red Sox owner,Tom Yawkey, who she married in Dec., '44, inherited team, upon his death('76),as majority owner('77-88).Philadelphia Phillies Owner(1943), Permanently expelled from BB by Judge Landis for betting on his own team. Owner - Yankees & Dodgers FB teams.

Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins owner(55-84), Inherited team fr. Dad,Clark Griffith on his death('55). Transf. Senators from long-time home,Wash.DC to Minneapolis('61).Sold Twins(Carl Pohlad-$36 million,'84).Son,Clark tried to buy'em back,$120m,no go.NY ; Yankees owner('48-66); In 1945, he, along with Del Webb and Larry MacPhail bought the Yankees. He served as club president from '48-66. Yanks won 15 pennants & 10 World Series during that 22 yr. period. Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx,NY

Cleveland Indians owner('46-49), St. Louis Browns owner('51-53), Chicago White Sox('59-61,76-80). d. heart attackBrooklyn Dodgers GM('51-57), Los Angeles Dodgers GM('58-66, San Diego Padres Owner('68-77), California Angels VP('77-?).White Sox owner('70-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackExecutive in Yankee farm system('45-48),Dir. of Personnel('48-58),Baltimore Orioles GM('58-66,Oct), Yankee GM(Oct.,'66-73), AL Pres.('73-84); Since 1984 has represented owners interests against the Players Union. Reputed to be fair man & negotiator.White Sox owner; club secretary('37), & treasurer('39), m. White Sox pitcher John Dungan Rigney,

Kansas City Athletics owner ('61-67), Oakland Athletics owner('68-80). Buried; Calumet Park Cemetery / Mausoleum, Lake County, Merrilville, IN

White Sox owner & Pres.('57-59);Comiskey had a lot in common with Prince Charles of England. In both cases,their mothers held the reins of power & became so comfortable with it that they couldn't let go the reins to their sons,who got old waiting.San Diego Padres owner(Jan.14, 1984-90) Married Ray Kroc in 1969. They moved from Chicago to San Diego when he bought Padres in '74. He died Jan.14, '84, she was active in managing team until she sold it in '90. d. brain cancer(Kroc, continued) Ray Kroc had been the owner and founder of McDonald Corporation, the fast food burger chain. Mrs. Kroc was also a philanthropist. In 1998, she gave $100m to Salvation Army, $25m to San Diego U., $19m to Notre Dame(80's), others.Atlanta Braves owner('87-); Also functioned as Pres.('67-72) insurance brokerage co. executiveCinc. Reds owner(1985-99,Apr.20); Continually embarrassed ML BB because she just couldn't grasp how her racial & ethnic beliefs & remarks could offend & infuriate so many people.ML BB forced her to sell her controlling interest in Reds. d. Cinc. hosp.(Schott, continued) Bought her team, like Joan Payson, as opposed to other female owners who inherited theirs from their husbands, Joan Kroc & Jean Yawkey, Ida Shibe, Florence Dreyfuss, Edith Pross, Grace Comiskey. Gave generously to charities.

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Seattle Mariners owner(Jan.,'81-89);cheap son of a bitch had no place as a big-league owner.Should have stuck to real estate & airlines rather than ruin a good sports franchise. Just another of the many lousy ego-driven "outsider" owners in history.

Minnesota Twins VP & GM('84-93), Chicago Cubs Ch. of Board, VP & GM('76-80), Houston Astros('80-84),Cubs Pres. & CEO('94-still active'02).

Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston, Chicago & Philadelphia teams. Inherited wealth from father in coal dealing. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans club. d. after lingering illness. buried:Lakeview,Cemetary,Cleveland,OHWhite Sox owner('69-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackBoston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,'12-16,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out as a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Cincinnati spwr.; Cincinnati Times-Star (?-1904) John Brush's secretary of NY Giants('05), Cubs owner('06-13); Voted out of NL for accusing umpires of corruption. d. at his home, had been ill since June, when he suffered a stroke of apolexy.Phil. Phillies owner & Pres.('13-30); Sec. to NYC controller Bird S. Coler(Jan.1,1898-02), Worked on Wall St.('02-05), Appointed Mun. Civil Service commissioner('05-08,Dec.31), Brooklyn,Queens Police Commissioner(Jan.1,'08-10,Dec.20). d. heart attack

part owner of White Sox, assistant secretary of White Sox & daughter of J. Louis Comiskey; d. heart attack, complicated by pneumonia, at Mercy Hospital, Chicago, IL.Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis

(Farrell, continued) Mr. Farrell had also owned racing enterprises, and racing horses, gambling houses, and asorted other business interests.Brooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness(Woods, continued) Jimmy Woods also served as publicity man for fight promoters Andy Neiderreiter, and Humberto (Jack) Fugazy. He served in the Navy during WWI.

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work;

ML pitcher, 1871-78; Boston (1871-75), Chicago (1876-78), Manager of Chicago (NL, 1876-77). Part owner / Pres. Of Chicago club, 1882-91. Hall of Fame, 1939. Org. 1st World BB tour, Helped draft NL constitution, 1876. Founded A. G. Spalding & Bros. sporting goods concern in 1876. In 1891, bought out Reach Co. (Spalding, continued) and wrote, or ghosted, classic history of BB in 1911. Later ran unsuccessfully for US Senate.Cleveland BB team treasurer; Moved Springfield as boy, then Cleveland as young man. Deeply involved in Cleveland's business, social and public activities. Loved BB dearly. d. at home at 2PM, after yrs. of suffering from kidney problems (Howe), He 1st came to Cleveland('52) as rep. for Howe Sewing Machine Co., his cousin, was Elias Howe. He shortly thereafter went to Europe as rep. for the concern, remaining until shortly before Civil War. Returned, among 1st(Howe), enlistments,1st Ohio Volunteer artillery, under Gen. James Harriet. Served w/ distinction, retired at end of War w/ Captain's rank & comm. Identified with veteran's groups. Involved with banking. At death, Pres.of Citizen's Savings & Loan Co.,

(Howe), He held a heavy interest in the early Cleveland BB team. He, along with Howard Bulkley, owned the 1st BB team in Cleveland, which failed financially. Later, when a vacancy developed in the AA, he and several others organized a team. He was(Howe) He remained the treasurer of the team until Frank de Hass Robison & his brother bought the entire interest. Most socially prominent citizen, fine library, spoke several languages, incl. German & French. His father invented Howe truss bridge.(Howe) He traveled with Cleveland team for many yrs. Best friend to players. Most traveled,Visited most of globe, African jungles,Siberia,forbidden regions of Turkey. Republican, Mason,Customs collector under Pres.Hayes, police comm. under Mayor Gardner.Played 5 yrs. With Athletics of National, Ass. Thought to be 1st professional player for receiving $1,000. To play for Phil. In 1864. Later founded A. J. reach Sporting Goods Co. Patented baseball with cork center which was invented by Ben Shibe, his business partner & later Phil. A's owner. Sold out to Spalding Co. in 1891.

Detroit Free Press (1913?-?), baseball historian; Settled in US in his teens, arrived in Detroit from Canada around 1904. Connected with Hugh Wallace Co. Retired recently before he died.

BB statistician; Arrived Chicago 1888, Was printer 1888-1908. Drifted into stats & became AL official statistician and also for number of minor leagues. Served as secretary for Chicago chapter of BBWAA for several yrs. d. kidney problem, BB's 1st Commissioner(Nov.12,'20-44);Ran BB like his own private fiefdom;His Good:Fought farm system,liberated 200 minor leaguers,nullified Ban Johnson(anti-player AL Pres.);Black marks:Barred blacks entry into org. BB; Blacks had to wait for his death;

(Landis,continued), Federal Judge who saved the hides of baseball's owners during their legal challenge from the Federal Leagues owners, who contended that the infamous & blatantly illegal "reserve clause & 10-day clauses" must be outlawed.(Landis), Landis sat on case, issued no decision, Federal League team owners realized that Landis would never rule against established leagues, & threw in the towel. Landis effectively killed free agency for next 60 yrs. d. coronary thrombosis,cremated(Landis,cont.), Landis also fought blacks entering baseball & adamantly refused to oppose the team owners gentlemen's agreement to bar blacks from organized BB. He also refused to reinstate Joe Jackson & Buck Weaver, who played their hearts out in '19.

NY; Vice President of A. G. Spalding & Co., sporting goods firm, & from '14-41 president of the American Sports Publishing Co.,publishers of the Spalding NL Baseball Guide books. d. St. Clare's Hospital,NYC, after 2 wk. illness, following an operation.Founded baseball statistics bureau; Kept the official records of the NL, International & many other leagues. He lost a leg in a Florida car accident. Brother Walter was general manager & took over after Al's death in '38. Office was:11 West 42nd St.,NYC

With his brother Al, ran the Elias Baseball Bureau, which kept the official stats of many leagues. Walter was general manager, until Al died, and then he took over the business.

Went to NYC in('15) as personal rep. of William H. Yawkey, then owner of Det. Tigers. Following Yawkey's death in '19, Defoe served as financial/business adviser to Thomas A. Yawkey, nephew of William Yawkey. Red Sox secretary('33), Team Board member,(Defoe, continued) Started ship-building company of Bay City with his brother Harry J. Defoe. He also raised Angus cattle in Mt. Pleasant Plantation in Andrews, SC. Developed one of finest breeding herds in country his last 15 yrs.

Ban Johnson's private secretery, December, 1911- Feb. 1,1927; Feb.1, 1927, appointed AL secretery, to acting AL Pres. Frank Navin, AL President, May 27, 1931-1958, AL Chairman of the Board, 1958-71Player, managaer, traveling sec., owner, scout; Minor L. pitcher, '07, Browns ML pitcher, '09, Tigers, '12, Yankees traveling sec. '52-57, he had scouted /managed for them for many yrs.

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Lawyer recruited by Judge Landis to be his legal aid & advisor(Jan.'21-44,Nov.). Acted as acting Comm. after Landis died in '44,Nov. until May,'45, when Chandler was elected BB's 2nd Commissioner.(O'Connor,continued), Special Ass. to BB Comm. Albert B. (Happy) Chandler(June-Oct.,'46), White Sox GM & VP(Nov.,'45--48,Nov.), lawyer Pacific Coast league & it's Pres.('56-59).NY Giants Traveling Secretary('36-71); idolized John McGraw. Moved with the Giants to San Francisco. Knew everybody in NY "worth knowing", and everyone liked him too.

Bost.; Sports cartoonist for Boston Globe for 35 yrs. Joined The Glove in 1910 as a commercial artist. In 1947, The Globe published a series of his sketches of the major league baseball parks, which now hang in BB's Hall of Fame at Cooperstown,NYWhite Sox VP & Secretary 1908-Dec.1945, White Sox President('40); June 1946 was named VP of Indians to death; lied to Joe Jackson to get him to sign 1920 contract, told him the 10 day release clause had been dropped. It hadn't. d. brain tumor

NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept. Bost.; started as usher for Braves; grad.buss. sch.,became secretary of officials of club. Became traveling secretary('19) after Navy service in WW I and held it until 1928. Red Sox Traveling Secretary for17 yrs. Made Assistant GM Red Sox.

BB's 2nd Commissioner; WWI, succeeded Judge Landis, brushed aside strong opposition from majority of owners in clearing way for Jackie Robinson. Kentucky Governor('35-39,55-59)US Senate('39-45). Supported BB's continuation during WWII. d. heart attackDirector of security for baseball('52-70); Earlier, had been US Treasury Dept. agent, 1927-52(undercover work in narcotics & bootlegging). Had been FB & BB player at St. bonaventure U. & BB coach & ass. FB coach at Xavier U. in Cinc. d. cancer

Secretary-Treasurer Amarillo(Texas) Gold Sox('59-67); Owned investment firm, took no pay for his work for team.

Was with Irwin Howe News Bureau from 1929 - January 1, 1979. He was the sole owner since 1956. From 1979, was consultant for 3 years. Saw all White Sox opening games from 1923-84.

Chicago,NY sports wr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times, Chicago American spwr. (Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58),Comm.Off.('62-74); Helped develop pension plan & free agency rule.

Detroit Free Press sportswriter('35-60),Detroit Tigers PR director('60-79),Sp.N. correspondent d. cancer

NY; NY Daily News photographer. Collapsed & died September 29, while taking pictures of Yankee-Tiger game at YANKEE Stadium. San Francisco,CA executive in San Francisco Giants minor league organization; With Giants 14 yrs. as buss. man., GM at Springfield,MA;Waterbury,CT & Amarillo,TX

NY exec; Grad. Dartmouth('43), WW2 Navy, Fordham Law Sch., Giants front officeVP('46), GM('50), succeeded Warren Giles as NL Pres.('70-86),opposed DH rule NL. 15 months Pres. of SD Padres('88). d. heart attack California Pacific Hosp.(San Francisco).

Boston Braves Traveling Secretary d. heart attack when his car hit a telephone pole d. coronary thrombosis in St. Luke's Hosp.

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; ML OF, 1871-77; Managed Boston in the National Association from 1871-75, and Boston in the NL from 1876-81, Providence 1882-83, Philadelphia, 1884-93.ML 1B, 1871-1897, also played 118 games at 3B, assorted other positions occasionally. 1876-97 were spent with the Chicago White Stockings. Cap managed the White Stockings from 1879-97, and the NY Giants for 1898. He was known for his personal leadership qualities, and prowess as a hitter.

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Cleveland OF(1880), Detroit(1881-88), Pittsburgh(1889-91), Baltimore(1892); Pittsburgh manager(1889-91), Baltimore manager(1892-98), Brooklyn manager(1899-1906), Reds manager('06-07). Buried: New Cathedral cemetery, Baltimore,MO Why not in Hall of Fame?(Hanlon) Hanlon, not McGraw developed inside tactics; hit & run, the squeeze, hit behind the runner, double steal, which singularly raised the level of play. He developed McGraw,Robinson,Jennings,Gleason,Kelley,Bowerman. Won 4 pennants in row,1894-97.ML 1B (1882-94), ML manager ( 1883- 94), Chicago White Sox owner(1901-31). Charles managed the St. Louis Browns (1883-89), jumped to the Chicago team in the Player's L. In 1890, went back to the St. Louis Browns for 1891, and finished up his managing career for Cincinnati from 1892-1894. He joined Ban Johnson in launching the AL in 1901. Boston Beaneaters manager(1890-1901), Cubs manager('02-05); d. consumption, tuberculosis

ML player (1880-97); Widely agreed that Buck was the greatest all-around player of the 1800's, and one of the very greatest catchers who ever lived, until he hurt his throwing arm in sping of 1892. Buck took over managing the NY Giants from Monte Ward for the 1890 season, and returned to them to manage in 1900. He also managed Cinc. club 1895-99. (Ewing, continued) Buck joined the Player's League for 1890 season, managing a NY team to a 3rd pl. finish. The Giants sued him over it's reserve clause. Buck won in court. Monte Ward also was sued over the reserve clause, represented himself & won. (Ewing, continued) Buck returned to the NL NY Giants in '91. Injured his throwing arm in 1892, finished out his playing career as an OF/ 1B. Could always hit & run the bases.ML P, IF (1878-94). Started off as a great pitcher, compiled 164-103, 118 ERA+; Hurt his arm in late 1883, converted to SS, but also a lot of 2B, OF, "Monte" managed Providence 1880, NY Giants, 1884, Brooklyn, 1890-92, and the NY Giants once more from 1893-94. (Ward, continued) Monte Ward was one of the most amazing ballplayers ever to play the game. Everyone says Babe Ruth was the only man ever to excel on the mound and then star as a player. Sadly they forget Monte. (Ward, continued) A star ballplayer in college, he hired on as a pitcher, and had 7 great yrs. on the mound before he hurt his arm in late '83, and converted to the IF. He also ran well, leading his league in SB 3 times, once with 111. He studied law at night, graduated with honors in 1885. (Ward, continued) When the Player's Brotherhood announced itself in 1885, John Ward was elected it's President, BB's 1st labor union. On Nov. 4, 1889, John met with around 40 players and discussed forming a Player's L. Around 100 NL players jumped to the new league. Although it lasted only for 1890 season. He returned to NL & finished out his career.NL catcher (1886-96), Phil Athletics' manager (1901-50); Philadelphia Athletics owner, from around the 1940's - early 1950's.

Philadelphia catcher(1886-90), Baltimore Orioles catcher(1890-1902), Baltimore Oriole manager('02), Brooklyn Robins/Dodgers manager('14-31). Colorful, delightfully comical character. Much loved by fans & sportswriters dream. Similar to Casey Stengel.

Philadelphia pitcher(1888-91), Cardinals(1892-94), Baltimore(1894-95), Phillies coach('08-11), White Sox coach('12-14,16-17), White Sox manager('19-23), Philadelphia Athletics coach('26-32). d. heart ailment

Brooklyn catcher(1890), Phil.(1897-98), Philadelphia Phillies manager(1897-98), Tigers manager('01), New York Highlanders manager('09-10), Boston Braves('13-20). Led his 1914 Boston Braves team, which was last mid-summer to World Champ.(Miracle Braves).Detroit man.('03-04,Aug.),Red Sox manager(Dec.13,'17-Oct.'20),At Harry Hooper's pressure,converted star pitcher Babe Ruth to OF('18-19).As GM of Yankees(Oct.29,'20-39),Pres.(Jan.17,'39-45,Feb.),14 pennants,10 World Series wins,had decisive influence over…(Barrow,continued) owner Jake Ruppert. In his autobiography('51), stressed he'd never even considered offering Babe Ruth a job with the Yankees after his playing days ended due to Babe's past misbehavior towards Huggins & McCarthy, whose job Babe coveted.

Washington Senators owner('20-55); ML pitcher(1891-1914), Senators manager('01-20), Boston Nationals 1B(1894-1907); Giants('08-09), Boston Braves('11), Braves manager('05-07,11), Boston office equitable Life Insurance of NY. Retired '49. Bur.: Harmony Cemetery, Georgetown, MALouville manager, 1897-99, NL OF, 1894-1915; Pittsburgh manager, 1900-15, Pittsburgh coach, 1925ML 3B(1891-06);Balt.Oriole man.(1899,01-02), NY Giants man.('02-32);W/ Connie Mack, greatest manager all time.For 31 yrs.('03-31)came in lower than 3rd 5 times.Came1st 12 times, 2nd 10 times.Abrasive,colorful,dictatorial.New Cathedral Cem.,Baltimore,MD.

ML infielder(1898-1905);Cardinals manager('05),Kansas City manager('06-07), Louisville manager, Indianapolis manager, Fort Wayne('10), Indianapolis('11-12), Fort Wayne('13-14), Tigers coach('14-17), St. Louis Browns manager('18-20), (Burke,continued), Red Sox coach('21-23), Toledo manager('24-25), Cubs coach('26-30), Yanks coach('31-33).

ML pitcher & coach; Louisville Colonels pitcher(1898), Red Sox('02-03), White Sox('03-09), Senators('09,12-15,18-19,24,29,31-33), Senators coach('12-53).Pirates catcher(1g,'02), Reds catcher(4g,'03), Cleveland manager('15-19), St. Louis Browns coach('20), St. Louis Browns manager('21-23), Red Sox manager('24-26), ML player 1901-03, St. Louis Browns' coach('20), AL umpire('20), St. Louis Browns business manager( July, 1923- Jan., 1931) Buried: Catholic Resurrection Cemetery, St. Louis, MONL 1B, 1898-12, AL 1B, 1913-14; Cubs manager, 1905-12, Yankee manager, 1913-14, Red Sox manager, 1923NL 2nd baseman & Yankee manager; Reds 2B('04-09), Cardinals('10-16), Cardinals manager('13-17), Yankees manager('18-29).

Reds 3B('13-14), Phillies('15-17),Cardinals('18),Giants('18);Giants coach('29),Yankees scout('48-49), Angels scout('61-69). Also managed extensively in minors:Jersey City, Mobile,Atlanta,Chattanooga,Knoxvill,Little Rock,Selma,Oak Ridge,Saginaw,Louisville

St. Louis Browns OF('09,11-17), Senators('18), Cardinals('19-23), Cardinals coach('23-25), Phillies manager('28-33), Reds coach,'34 & manager,'34), Indians coach('42-45), Brooklyn Dodgers manager('47-50), Giants shortstop('09-20), Phillies('20,22), Phillies manager('23-26), Yankees manager(11g,'29), Yankees coach('27-45). Like Frankie Crosetti, got lots of WS rings(9), thanks to Yankees reign at the top. Buried: Glenwood Cemetery, Collinsville, ILMajor League player briefly; OF-IF Brooklyn('13), Phillies('25), Federal League(Baltimore,Buffalo), also manager,coach,scout; Coached Phillies('24-26), Tigers('28-30).

ML infielder('07,10-18,20); Federal League manager,Newark('15), Pirates' manager('22-26),Cardinals coach('27), Cardinals manager('28-29), Boston Braves manager('30-37), Reds manager('38-46), Cleveland Indians coach('47-49), Red Sox coach('52-53).Chicago Cubs manager('26-30), Yankee manager('31-46), Red Sox manager('48-50). In the subjective opinion of the writer, Stengel & McCarthy were the 3rd & 4th best managers after Mack & McGraw, 2 genius'. Mack was superior handler of players.(McCarthy, continued) In his 24 big-league seasons, Joe won 9 pennants and 7 World Championships, compiled a ML best .615 Won-Lost record, and best career world series W-L %, .698. From 1907-25, had a very active minor league career as player, manager.Pirate infielder('22-25), Pirates coach('26-29) & manager('29-31), Tigers coach('32),Reds coach('33,41),Braves coach('34), Pirates coach('35-39). Reds scout('40), Managed Indianapolis('40),Reds coach('41), Managed Syracuse Chiefs('42-50).

NL OF('12-25),Dodgers' coach('32-33) & manager(34-36),Boston Braves manager('38-43),Yankee manager('49-60),Mets('62-65).Casey(& Mack)proved that a manager needs the team to win.With good teams,he won,without them he couldn't.Delightfully colorful.ML OF; played for Indians('13,15),Pirates('18-20), Red Sox('21-23), Giants('24-25), Cardinals('26-27,29); Giants coach('33), Cardinals manager('29,40-45), Boston Braves manager('46-51), Senator's 2nd baseman('19-28),Tigers('29,31); Senators manager('24-28,35-42,50-54), Tigers manager('29-33,55-56),Red Sox manager('34), Phillies manager('43),Yankees manager('47-48),

Philadelphia Athletics 2nd baseman('18-32), White Sox 3rd baseman('33-39); White Sox manager('34-46), Philadelphia Athletics coach('49-50) & manager('52-53), Baltimore Orioles manager('54), Reds coach('55-58),(Dykes,continued)Reds manager('58), Pirates coach('59),Tigers manager('59-60), Indians manager('60-61), Braves coach('62), Kansas City Athletics('63-64). Ty Cobb once tried to buy him from Mack for his Tigers, showing his value. Quite an endorsement!!

ML pitcher, club executive, scout; Pitched for Giants('18), Browns('28-29), Reds(31-32), pitched for Baltimore of International League fr. '20-27. VP & General Manager of Baltimore of Int'na'tional L. fr. '33-39.Owned Elmira club of Eastern L.('41-42). (Ogden, continued) Scouted for the Reds, Braves and Phillies. He signed 45 players who made it to the majors, including Richie Allen. John retired as a Phillies' scout in 1971.Phil. A's 1st baseman('16), Cardinals('18), Pirates('19-24), Cubs('25-36), Cubs manager('32-49,60), Cubs coach('41,61-63), Braves manager('52-56), Buried: Cremated, ashes spread by wife over Wrigley Field.

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Reds 3B('25-31), Giants('33); Reds manager('34-37), Dodgers coach('39-42,43-46,58-59), & manager('51-53), Yankees coach('47-48), Senators manager('55-57), Braves manager('60-61), Tigers manager('63-66), Boston Braves(pitcher,OF, '22-44),Yankees('40), Braves coach('40-42,46-55), White Sox pitching coach('57-64).Tigers coach('44-49)1st base coach; Was 0-1 in 19 games with Braves('27-28); Also pitched at Rochester,Buffalo,Toronto,Binghamton,Pittsfield,Williamsport. For several yrs. after Tigers he coached at Portland.Boston Bees(Braves) pitcher('37-39), Reds pitcher('40-42), Yankees pitcher('42-45), Yankees pitching coach('49-59,66-73, minor league manager('60), Reds61-65). d. died in nursing home

Yankees shortstop('25-29), Reds('30-33), Cardinals('33-37), Dodgers('38-41,43,45); Dodgers manager('39-48), Giants manager('48-55), Dodgers coach('61-64), Cubs manager('66-72), Astros manager('72-73). Slick glove, no hit. Sharpest, dapper dresser.During last 2 wks of '26,'27 seasons, can't tell from record books,but brought up by Yankees to sit on their bench but didn't get into any games. Ruth named him "the All-American out",accused him of stealing a watch. Bur: Forrest Lawns, Hollywood Hills,CASt. Louis Browns 1B('30-36) & coach,Tigers 1B(May,'36-Sept.,'36);Minor league manager for Toronto,Bradford,Fall River,Scranton & Albany. Red Sox coach('53-60, & scout,'61-73)2nd & 3rd baseman; Reds('30-31),Dodgers('32-35),Boston Braves('36-40,42-43),Giants('40),White Sox('43-45), Reds coach('49-51), Indians coach('52-56), White Sox coach('57-66,69), Tigers coach('67-68), d. congestive heart failureDodger catcher('28,30-35), Braves catcher('36-40), Pirates catcher('40-46), Indians catcher('47); Cleveland Indians manager('51-56), White Sox manager('57-69); Won AL pennants in '54(Indians), & '59(White Sox) to break up Stengel's 10 pennants in 12 yrs.!

Indians' pitcher('28-47), Indians' manager(2g,'61, 4g,'62 Indians coach('47-63), Mets coach('64), Cubs coach('65), Reds coach('66-68), Kansas City Athletics coach('69). Yankee shortstop('32-48),Yankee coach('47-68),Seattle Mariners coach('69),Twins coach('70-71), played in 7 World Series,coached in 15 more(earned 17 WS rings),both with Yankees; good glove,no hit; retired to Oakland,CA

Cardinals 1B for 1 game('36); Dodgers manager('54-76); Inducted into BB Hall of Fame('83), Won 7 NL pennants & 4 World Series as manager of first Brooklyn and then LA Dodgers. Managed 13 yrs. in minors before called up to Dodgers for '54 season.

Pirates manager('57-64,67,70-71,73-76), Won World Series in '60 & '71. Preceded by coaching Bucs in '56-57. d. heart attack, buried at St. Peter's & Paul's Cemetery, Springfield,PAIndians catcher('41-42,46-57), Det. catcher('58), Philly catcher('58-59), Giants catcher('59), Cubs catcher('60); Yankee coach('60-73,79-80), Tigers coach('74-78),Las Angeles Dodgers coach (1973-76), manager('76-96), also coached US mens baseball team at 2000 Sydney,Australia Olympics, won Gold Medal Cardinals 2B('45-56,61-63), Giants('56-57), Braves('57-60), Cardinals coach('61-64,79-89), Cardinals manager('65), Oakland Athletics coach('77-78), Cardinals infielder(49-56,59), Phillies('56-58), Cardinals manager('59-61), Mets coach('62-63), Indians coach('64-65).Manager Philadelphia Phillies (1960-1968), Montreal (1969-1975), Minnesota Twins ( 1976-80), California Angels (1981-82, 85-87). Kansas City coach (1995)Senators' 3B('44,46-58), Tigers 3B('59-60), Dodgers 3B('61-62); Angels coach('62), Senators manager('63), Senators coach('63-67), Giants coach('68-76), Red Sox coach('77-84).Yankee 2B('50-53,55-57),Kansas City Athletics('57),Tigers('58),Indians('59),Reds('60,Braves('61),Twins('61); Twins coach('65-68, & manager,'69),Tigers man.('71-73),Texas Rangers manager('73-75),Yankees manager('75-79,83,85,88),Oakland A's manager('80-82).

Dodgers infielder('54-59), Cubs('60-61,63), Giants('62), Reds('62), Senators('63-65), Expos coach('71), San Diego Padres manager('72-73), Red Sox (coach,74-76, & manager,'76-80), Texas Rangers manager('81-82), Cubs (coach,84-86, & manager'88-91), Pirates OF, 1955-65, 68; Pirates' manager, '72-73; Yankees' manager, '74-75; Houston Astros' manager, '75- 82; Montreal manager, '83-84. Pirates' coach, '68-71, 86; Houston Astros' coach, 1997AL OF, 1956-63; Texas Ranger's manager, 1973; California Angels' manager, 1974; Kansas City Royals' manager, 1975-79; St. Louis Cardinals' manager, 1980-90; Kansas City Royals' coach, 1965; Mets' coach, 1966; California Angels' coach, 1974-75.Phillies 2nd baseman; San Diego coach('69), Reds manager('70-78), Tigers manager('79-95).Baltimore Orioles coach('76-86,89-92), Balt. Orioles manager('85,87-88); d. cancerMets manager ( '77-81), Atlanta manager ('82-84), Cardinals manager ('90-95), Yankees manager ('96-present (04); Braves catcher (1960-68), Cardinals/ Mets IF ('69-77)Atlanta Braves manager, (1978-85, 90-present(04). NY Mets coach, 1978; Had been NY Yankee 3B 1968-69Manager Chicago White Sox (1979-1986), White Sox coach (1978), Oakland Athletics (1986-1995), St. Louis Cardinals (1998-2003) and still with Cards.

Dodgers pitcher('70-80), Texas Rangers('80-90), White Sox('91-92),Florida Marlins('93-94); Dodgers coach('98)ML OF (1968-85); Giants coach (1988-92), Giants manager (1993-02), Chicago Cubs manager (1903-present(04).

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Brooklyn Dodgers scout; Brought to them:Zach Wheat,Dazzy Vance,Casey Stengel,Hi Myers,Jake Daubert,Jeff Pfeffer,Sherry Smith, Lew McCarty,Hank Deberry. Never left his job as proofreader for Newark Star Eagle. Also a printer.(Sutton, continued), Became full-time Dodger scout('09), Dodger buss.man. of Bears in Newark,NJ('13), Was with Tigers, Phillies, Reds('16-20). Returned to Dodgers in '20 & remained on payroll till illness forced his retirement in 1932.Giants' scout, 1907-32. Former owner of Springfield club in Three-Eye L. , chief of Illinois Oil Inspection Division. d. ill of a week, in St. John's Hosp

scout; ML player(1891-1905), managed NY Giants(1995), Washington(1898), minor leagues: Toledo('05), Des Moines('06), Milwaukee manager('07). NL ump('1911). Minor League ump:New England L., AA, Pacific C. L,Western & 3I. Cubs scout('20-58),

Cardinals shortstop('06-07), minor league manager(Montreal of International league('28-32), scouted for many major league teams.

White Sox scout('25-42); teamed with wife Bessie as scouting team. Roy was totally deaf & Bessie would read his lips, drive the car on scouting trips. She became shrewd judge of talent herself. d. after month's illness. Retired when wife became ill. ML scout; Played minor league ball as pitcher; scouted for Detroit('19), Phillies('18), Milwaukee('16-17), Cleveland('13-15), St. Louis Browns('10-12).White Sox scout('25-43); teamed with husband Roy as scout team for White Sox; signed Carl Reynolds, Luke Appling, Zeke Bonura, Monty Stratton. One of few women scouts in BB history.Began as a St. Louis Brown's catcher in 1912-13, gained fame as long-term scout for the New York Yankees('

Red Sox scout; ML OF('23-30), played & managed in minors. Red Sox scouting staff('44-51,death).

(Lopez, continued) From 1951-65, a period of 15 yrs., El Senor came in 1st or 2nd every year except 3, '60-62.

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Dodger scout; Branch Rickey sent him to make initial contact with Jackie Robinson in 1945,was Dodger's acting man. when Robinson broke major' modern color barrier.Had been ML catcher(Reds,'26-31,Dodgers,32-34,45). Coached Dodgers('43-51),Pirates('52-57).Red Sox scout('48-73), before that he scouted part-time a number of yrs. He coached baseball at colleges & high schools in Oklahoma before he became a scout.ML scout; Minor leagues as pitcher & manager. Yankee scout('49-64), Dodger scout, St. Louis Browns scout('41-?) Signed Mantle, encouraged Dodgers to sign Jackie Robinson

ML pitcher White Sox, Braves, Dodgers & Cardinals, mostly in relief (1933, 1 inning, '37-41, 44-45. Piloted 14 minor league teams, '51-70. He also scouted for ML in between, for White Sox at time of death. He played for 13 minor L. clubs. d. cancerPittsburgh Pirates scout('50-88); Schooled under Branch Rickey, he was an early recruiter of Latin American talent. Signed lots of Central Americans, such as Clemente, Tony Pena,etc. for Pirates.Pirates' scout (1950-59), Pirates scouting director, 1959-67; Special Ass. to Cincinnati GM, 1968-1990. Singned Maz to Pirates, '54, Maury Wills to Dodgers, 1950, Dick Groat to Pirates, 1952, also signed Roger Craig and infielders Gene Freese and Gene Michael. Was a longtime resident of the Pittsburgh suburb Mount Lebanon. Moved to FL in 1980.

Cardinals scout since 1947. Became chief scout. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOSt. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles scout (1951-86): He began as a scout with the Browns and stayed on when the Browns moved to Balt. Involved with securing Jim Palmer, Boog Powell, Dave McNally, Davey Johnson, Frank Robinson. 6 pennants, 3 WS.

d. heart attack after 3 weeks illness, after suffering sunstroke during course of a game in August. His yr. of birth is often erroneously listed as 1852, when it actually was 1862, as listed in the Cal. death index. Began promising BB career as 2B for the Renos in 1884, at age 22. Umped in the Cal. L. in 1886, the Players L. in 1890.

d. acute indigestion, uraemic poisoning

NL 1898-00, Supervisor of Umps, 1931-54NL pitcher for Washington in 1894; Pitched only 5 innings in 1 game. President / manager of the Scranton team in the NY / PA league (1926). Pitched for Providence L. in 90's. Umped in Eastern L., AA L., worked the '13 WS, managed Milwaukee in AA, Oklahoma City in TX, L., Providence in Eastern L., Scranton in NY/PA L., Newark in Intern. L. (Egan, continued) Scouted for Red Sox & Pittsburgh. Coached Providence College in the 1930's,

ML pitching star 1898-1909, AL umpire 1909-37, D. Syracuse Memorial Hosp. Buried: Utica, NY St. Agnes Cemetery

Buried: Mt. Olive Cemetery, Frederick,MD

Began umpiring when 20, and still playing ball in the New England league. Worked the '08 WS. Later, became umpire-in-chief of England, New England, and International League. Retired '36, he worked Harvard, Yale, Holy Cross games. Owned Bowling alleys.colorful ML league player, with Chicago White Ox ,manager, umpire & club Pres. Owned Western L. clubs, in Siox City and Lincoln, NE. Umpired in Western L., and scouted for some teams including Des Moines, IABuried: Knollwood Cemetery, Cleveland,OH

Grad. U, of Michigan & its law school, AL umpire while in college, Detroit Times sp. ed.; Joined General Foods in 1937, and became a VP, and Campbell Soup Co. in 1953, and became an executive VP.

Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.Attended U. of Tennesse and Mississippi; Athletic director and coach of Memphis Univ. School, Southern League ump, started in '23.

Was to work the '41 season in the Amer. Ass.,was killed with 4 others in a head-on collision near Hooppole,Il the night of Feb.23.

d. heart attack, Cathedral Cemetery, Wilmington, DE

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d. of injuries suffered in an auto accident on July 19.Supervisor of AL umpires, '51-69 d. cancer

Worked 4 WS in career d. after a lengthy illnesAA - 5 yrs., International L. - 4 yrs. , Started season with Western L. but had to quit on Sept. 20, due to bad health

Managed Beaumont club in Texas L. d. Pneumoniahad worked as umpire for last 25 yrs. in mior leagues. Pacific Coast L., AA, Texas, International

Deputy Sheriff and Republican political worker. d. ill for several days with bronchial pnuemonia, at home

AA 1884? Umpired, while active player

prior to becoming a ML umpire, he had had a full ML career as a ballplayer. He had been a 3B & 2B from 1871-84. d. died of apoplexy on Thursday eveningUmpired for 25 yrs. for the AA, NL, Eastern Association, & the college association. Received $5-$10. for each of his earlier games. d. from injuries & exposure, when he fell on a country rd. during a snowstorm days before.

ML player Washington Nationals catcher(1873), Lord Baltimores catcher(1874), Philadelphia's catcher(1875), Managed Cincinnati(AA,1882-84) & Washington Nationals(AA,1891).(Sp. N. Jan.1,1914,death roll of 1913 They called him The King of Umpires; He also managed the Washington Nationals 1886-87.

They called him "The King of Umpires", NL Pres.('09-13). He was a prominent Elk. D. Hartford Hospital after illness of 6 wks. Very interested in New Britain, CT Lyceum Theatre. Umped in Eastern L. before he joined Nat. L. staff.

Playeed OF for ML team Ric in a league, in 1884.Had been ML catcher 30 yrs. before. d. paralysisalso Pitts. sp. wr. for many years,(Sp.N. Jan.1,1914,death roll of 1913; d. at home of nervous breakdown.Managed Washington Senators AL team for 1907-09, Served as umpire, player & scout in various leagues. First sent Walter Johnson his fare for tryout with Senators, after many other teams passed on offering him tryout.

Phil. pitcher, chief of police of Norristown,PA from 1930-44. d. at home in his sleepML(1892-1907) & minor league shortstop, was rated by some as greatest fielding shortstop, later was clothing salesmen for Gimbels Brothers dept. store, managed Kansas City minor league team.

Later umpired in the American Association and Federal League. d. heart disease

Buried: Black Oak Cemetery, Canelo, AZalso was grid coach, also a NL player as a St. Louis Cardinal

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Grad. Bucknell U. and coached their FB team.

NL OF('04-19),Phillies('04-14), Braves('15-17), Reds('17-19),

Invented catcher's mask. Pitched in North Eastern & Atlantic Leagues. Also umpired in Federal League & AA. Shortly after his wife died, he left for 3 wk. vacation to Europe. Reported to have died of infection of neck, contracted from onboard ship.

Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.Umped in Kitty L. (1910), Missouri-Illinois, Central, Central Ass., Ohio St., NY St., International L., Texas L., Southern L.; Umped 26 yrs., over 4,000 g. Once held AL record for working 1710 consecutive games. d. Baptist Hosp. long-term kidney illness

called "Beans" because he hailed from Boston; friend of Mae West, appeared in many of her movies

Total BB (1890, 1897)Umpired South Atlantic L, in 1910, had been a race walker, and set a record for the 100 miles in 18 hrs. & 4 minutes.

Umpired with South Jersey L., NL, AA, International L., Western L., Souther L., Tri-State, NY L. d. At hosp. in Ridley Park, near Philadelphia, PA, after operation.Had lived in New Orleans, d. Had had a ruptured appendix, had operation, then relapsed. Had come from the Texas League.Southern Ass. League (20 yrs.), National, Federal ,Iowa State, Western Ass., Western League, Wisconsin State umpire. Coached FB at Tennesse U. Medical College at Memphis, TN. d. underwent emergency operation for ruptured ulcer.

His parents settled in Youngstown when he was a young child. d. tuberculosis

Main cities worked in; Description of career highlights; Chronology of newspaper work; Secretery of St. Louis Browns until his death in 1884. Credited with developing present system of batting / fielding ave. Served as sp. ed. of the Phil. Sunday Dispatch, moved St. Louis in 1875. Worked Republican, Post-Dispatch, Spectator and Critic. NY spwr.; Grad. Seton Hall, NJ, & CC,NY; NY Daily News, NY Commercial Advertiser, NY Herald BB reporter for 10 yrs., dramatic critic, city ed., Albany correspondent. In 1872, accepted the office of Clerk of the Board of Assistant Aldermen for a short time. (Kelly, continued) Ed. DeWitt BB Guide 1968. One of 1st to make use of box scores, & is credited with introducing the shorthand system of scoring in 1861 editor-in-chief of Atlantic Monthly d. congestion of the kidneys, complicated by pneumoniaSt. Louis spwr.; Grad. Cornell U., entered journalism in NY; St. Louis Republic spwr.: Secretary / Manager of St. Louis Browns (May, 1885- 1890) Made business man. / secretery of Chicago Players League club (The Brotherhood, June 15, 1890). Did the publicity for Chris Von Der Ahe in 1891 - 1994, Aug. 9. St. Louis baseball scorer. (Munson, continued) Press Agent of St. Louis Fair Ass. Put out Horse Show Monthly. Sec. of Horse Show Ass. / local Kennel Club. Was elected Pres. of the original Base Ball reporters Association of America in Cincinnati (Dec.,1887); One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide.

(Munson, continued) Essential member of Scorer's Ass. One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide. Came from NY in 1883. Married Lizzie in 1888; 2 kids by 1900. d. double pneumonia / kidney complications, buried in Calvary Catholic Cemetery on March 17, 1908.Chicago spwr.; Began his career Chicago Times (1881?-?), Chicago Herald news writer & night editor, Chicago Chronicle editorial staff, managing ed. His brother Horatio is publisher of the Chicago Chronicle. d. Had been ill with Tuberculosis for several months, and had sought El Paso climate to prolong his life.St. Louis spwr.; Arrived from Quebec to St. Louis in 1860's. One of 1st BB writers in Midwest. Cincinnati telegrapher, left Western Union telegraph Co. to wrk Cinc. Gazette & then went St. Louis, Missouri Democrat. When Globe merged with Democrat, took over as telegrph ed. During spare time, developed sp. page for Globe-Democrat.

(Spink, continued) Covered all sports and was regared as one of top writers of his day, due to his versatility. Buried: Catholic Cavalry on July 2, 1885.

Cinc. spwr.; Cincinnati Associated Press, at least 1911, Original founding member of BWAAcontributor to Baseball Magazine. Last article, July, 1937. d. Georgetown University Hospital. Wife: Nona WardNY spwr.; NY Sunday Mercury (1975-?). Served official scorer NY Metropolitans (1880-83), and for the Giants (1883-89). Was a staunch advocate of the International League of the 1870's. NY Herald (1876-89). United Press sports writer (1894). Brother of William M. Rankin

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Boston, NY spwr.; Grad. Saugus HS, MA, in 1907, Mt. Hermon academy, 1909, Dartmouth College, 1913, Boston Post (1913-17), started on city staff, quickly moved on to sports staff, 1914-17, Seved w/ 76th Div. & 5th div. in WWI, w/ rank of captain, 1917-19.(Parker, continued) Boston American (1919-22), NY Evening Mail (1923-24), NY Morning World (1924-27), NY World-Telegram (1927-39, Aug. 24) Free-lance writer to many periodicals. Ass. Director to Leo Casey, Dir. Publicity for NY World's Fair.

Father:born England Mother:born California

Milwaukee spwr.; sports editor and reporter for papers in Racine and in LaPorte, Ind., before joining the Journal in 1922 as a rewrite man. Became sports editor in 1933, holding the post until 1956, when he became a natural resources reporter. He retired in 1964. Milwaukee Journal spwr. (1922-56), (Lynch, continued) After retiring from newspaper work, Lynch became the first chairman of the new Natural Resources Board. It was 1967, and environmental concerns were popping up all over.(Lynch, continued) He is credited for having played a major role in the move of the National League Braves baseball team from Boston to Milwaukee. Wrote "The Milwakee Braves" with Harold Kaese, in 1951. St. Louis spwr. ; St. Louis Globe-Democrat spwr. & Sporting News pro FB columnist Buried: Cavalry Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MOPhiladelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Inquirer (1945 - 1972) Sporting News Philadelphia correspondent, 1945-72.

Chicago spwr.; Chicago Tribune spwr. (1925- 1928, Dec.) Chicago Daily News (summer, 1951) wrote Football books, History of Bears

NY spwr.; Grad. Long Island U. at Brooklyn Academy of Music (June, 1941), book ed.,newspaper ed., High School teacher; lived in Laguna Beach,CA

NY sp. wr.; Bronx Home News reporter 1917?-1933?; NY Post('56-58). editor of newspaper in 1930 census; In 1917, was a reporter, in WWI civilian draft registrationPhil. spwr; Philadelphia North American, at least 1911-14, Phil. Evening Bulletin spwr. ('42)

Syracuse, NY ass. sp. ed.; Syracuse (NY) Post-Standard sp, ed. d. auto accident

Chi. Tribune sp. ed.; WWI vet. Frank M. Smith had been sp. ed. of the Chicago Tribune until 1925. He then moved east and got into wrestling promotion. He managed Jim Browning, heavyweight wrestling champ.

(Smith, continued) He began as a copy reader in the editorial dept. in 1912, and stayed until the start of WWI. Received commission as 2nd lieutenant, seved more than yr. overseas with/165 infantry. After war, then 1st lieutenant, returned to Tribune, made sp. ed. in '21, left in '25. Phil. spwr; Credited with helping Connie Mack get his start in baseball. Fletcher, along with Tom Reilly of Meriden, persuaded Mack to leave his home in east Brookfield, MA and join the Meriden team of Connecticut League in 1884. d. in New Haven hospital

Long Islands,NY; spwr for the Long Island Press(NY). Wrote several non-sports books, covered basketball and some major league baseball.Rockford Morning Star(IL) sp.ed.; official scorer for Rockford minor leagues baseball teams

Milwaukee Journal ('47-86), Sp. N. basketball columnist; radio announcer (1945-?) WINX; Had been on a troop ship during WWII as Lieut.

Baltimore sports writer; Hartford Courant staff writer; BBWAA secretary/treasurer (1991?-2004?)

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NY sp.wr.,author; Family moved Brooklyn,NY(Sept.21,1837); NY Times cricket reports(1856), Brooklyn Eagle cricket,BB ed.(1856-94), NY Herald, NY World sp wr(13yrs), NY Sun(6yrs), Sp. News, Sp. Life, Yankee Clipper(1858-?) Ball Players' Chronicle(1867-69). (Chadwick,continued), In 1896, NL voted him pension for life.Editor-in-chief of NL Spalding baseball guide until his death(1881-08), succeeded in that function by John B. Foster, who carried that job until his death('41) in Wash.DC. d. pneumonia

Phil. Spwr.; Phil. Sunday Mercury reporter. Succeeded Henry Chadwick as New York Clipper writer. Was 1st to compile NL ave. & 1st Philadelphia A's scorer. Toured England in 1874 with Phil. Athletics. Managed the Philadelphia team in 1876Chicago spwr.; Minnesota regiment in Civil War. St. Paul Pioneer Press managing ed. Chicago Tribune sp. ed., musical, drama ed. (1868-75) night ed. (1875-83); American Economist ed. (1898-1918). One of organizers of original Chicago BB team. d. of pneumonia in West Suburban HospitalChicago Tribune sp. ed.(1860's-70's) Helped popularized BB in Chicago. Used box scores. Along with William Hulbert, he formulated the plan to organize the National League. Was present at famous fire in 1871 on roof. Chicago Tribune reporter in 1860's. One of 1st to use box scores.

(Meacham) Delta Kappa Epsilon. Prepared Phillips Academy, Andover; A. C., 1867. Tutor Christian College, Indiana, 1868; reporter and proof reader Times and Tribune, Chicago, Illinois, 1869-71; private secretary to Mayor Medill, 1871-72; editor at the Rutland Herald, 1874; reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Rutland Herald, 1874;(Meacham) reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Tribune, 1875-78. Private in the Vermont Regiment and 1st Lieutenant of the New York Highlanders, 1862-65. Son of Rev. James and Mary F.

NY spwr.; Started in 1870 with Rockland County Journal, Nyack, NY; NY Times, NY Tribune, NY World, NY Mail, NY Express, official scorer for the Mutual club; NY Clipper ed. (30 yrs.), succeeded Al Wright as editor, d. Apoplexy, heart disease at homeCincinnati & New York sports writer; Cincinnati Enquirer sp.ed.(1874-81), Helped found Amer. Ass. & secured a Cinc. franchise in it(Nov.,1881),Cincinnati Commercial Gazette('81-87), NY Daily(1887), served as Reds Secretary / buss. man. through 1886.(Caylor,continued), Carthage,MO newspaper(1888), The Sporting News(NY,ed. - 1889-1890), NY Herald(Baseball ed. 1892-1897,death). Official scorer for NY Giants. Also managed Cincinnati(AA,1885-86) & NYMetropolitans(AA,1887).(Caylor,continued),Accepted administrative job with NY Metropolitans(1886).Accepted job as on-field manager of team(June,1886-end of season).Team was in 7th & he couldn't improve team's standing by season's end.Famed for caustic sarcastic, humor & wit.

Pittsburgh sports writer,Pirates scorekeeper; Pitts. Times(1880-?),Pitts. Post(promoted to sp.ed 1890-1905, Pitts. Gazette('05-12), Moreland News Bureau('13-14),Pittsburgh Leader,Pittsburgh official scorer(1893-1932). Began sp. dept. in early newspapers.NY sp. wr.; Studied civil engineering at MIT for 2 yrs.,ML best 2nd baseman(1880-90), managed Buffalo in NL(1879-80) & Cincinnati(U,1884). Old Atlantic League Pres.(1895), New York Press sp.wr.(1890-98), NY Journal(1898-1925).

(Crane,continued), one of McGraw's closest friends, fought with him often.Made all road trips with Giants. Arguably most beloved sp.wr.of his day. d. developed pneumonia during Giants western swing.Arrived home in Bronx, went right to bed,couldn't rally.(Crane,continued), When Tim Murnane of Boston died Feb.7,1917, Crane became the new "Dean of Sports Writers". Knew many things due to his close proximity to McGraw, never was known to take advantage of it to "scoop" rival writers.

(Richter,continued), drew up National Agreement(1883), helped place Phil Club in AA(1882), Helped place Phil club in NL(1883),helped assimilate AA into NL(1891), drew up Millenium Plan which ended BB war.Richly deserves BB Hall of Fame.Whole existence-BB (Richter,cont.),For a long lifetime of service to BB at its highest levels,I nominate him for the Taylor Spink Award. His every waking moment was happily devoted to BB. In Apr. '46, he & 11 others were elected to H of F as sp. writers( Honor Rolls).(Richter,continued) In 1880, he started the 1st sports dept. ever in a newspaper, The Public Ledger. Mr. Richter was offered the Presidency of the National League in 1907. He declined due to his obligations to the AL Reach Guide & his own Sporting Life.

(Richter,continued) He founded Sporting Life in 1883, a weekly baseball paper, which became a great force in BB until he disposed of it in 1917, during the War. The motto of his publication, "Devoted to the Baseball Men and Measures, With Malice Toward None and Charity for All," sums up the character of Mr. Richter.

(Richter,continued) He was a columnist for Sporting News from Dec.8, 1921 - Sept., 1925. His column, Casual Comment was often addressed to administrative matters. He was always at the top of the BB world, albeit behind the scenes, working for the betterment of the game he loved so much. His every waking hour was devoted to BB.St. Louis, Sp. N. Publisher; His family were from Quebec, Canada. After the Civil War, the family moved to Chicago, IL. In 1875, Al moved to St. Louis, and became a great fan of the St. Louis Stockings. Sp. ed. of 3 papers; Globe-Democrat, Missouri Republican, Post-Dispatch. Founded The Sporting News on March 17, 1886-95(Spink, continued) 1st Pres. Of western League, started a number of ball clubs & leagues before launching Sporting News. Authored several books. Ed. Reach Guide '88. Press agent of Chris Von der Ahe, interested him in BB. Called brother Charles to St. Louis from S. Dakota to be bus. man. of Sp. N.

SF,Chi.; San Francisco Chronicle spwr. (1886-?), New Zealand Herald (1870-?), San Francisco Examiner (1888-1914), Chicago Examiner (2 yrs.), baseball & boxing authority. Chicago American sp.ed. Wrote "Kings of the Queensberry Realm." A foremost boxing authority. Covered major boxing bouts of his time.

NY, Kansas City spwr.; Grad.Lafayette College, Easton,PA (1878); Kansas City Star, Arrived NYC (1888), NY Herald, NY Press (1893),NY Sun (1900-16), NY Herald ('16-24), Herald-Tribune ('24-May,'30,death); Acknowledged expert on baseball, football & billiards.St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1892-95), Sporting News ed.(1895-1906), Moved Cinc.('12), serving as secretary to August Herrmann, chairman of National Commission,1906-1921), until Landis became Commissioner. Retired on pension. d. Heart disease after long illness.(Flanner, continued) South Dakota homesteader. Finished law apprenticeship, served as first state'sattorney for Lawrence County. In 1892, after 16 yrs at the bar, left South Dakota, for St. Louis, Mo. Named sp. Ed. Of St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Joined Sporting news 3 yrs. later.Detroit, New York sp. ed.: NY Press(1914), Had been sports writer for NY newspapers, and then turned to boxing referee. Had refereed the Jack Sharkey/Max Schmeling fight. He voted for Schmeling and was much criticized for it. He died a yr. later.

Cincinnati sp.ed.; Cinc. Enquirer sp. ed. (1880-1900), trained many of the early 19th century sports writers while a sp. ed at Enquirer. Heavily into boxing. Devestating stroke Feb.25, 1900, at 290 lbs. ended his work. When Harry died, he was replaced by Ren Mulford. Burial: Forest Cemetary, Circleville, OH

Chicago sp.wr.; US Navy; Chicago Sunday Times reporter(1889-1890), San Francisco Examiner sp.wr.(1890), NY Evening Journal(1898-99), Phil. North American(1899-1905), Chicago Tribune('06-08), Chicago Examiner('08-17), Chicago Herald & Examiner('18-21). (Dryden, continued), He was one of the 1st, most popular & most influential baseball writers who ever lived. Humorist influenced a generation of following baseball writers. Suffered devastating stoke('21) left him disabled. Awarded Spink award('65). Philadelphia Inquirer Sp. ed.; 25% owner of Phil. Athletics from 1901 until fall 1912, sold his shares to Connie Mack. Had good knowlege of many sports. Phil. Press Secretery of Athletics (1905) d. at home, was ill for some months, interred at West Laurel Hill Cemetery, Cincinnati sports writer; Cincinnati Post editor, When Henry Weldon died in 1890's, Ren replaced him on the Cinc. Enquirer. Sporting Life's Cincinnati's correspondent, around 1911. d. acute intestinal obstruction, buried Spring Grove Cemetery, Cincinnati, OH

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Cleveland sports writer; Started on Painesville Telegraph(1880-?),Sporting Life correspondent(1897), Cleveland Press sp. ed.(20 yrs).(also wrote column "Little Old Man", loved for it's intimate feel. Also Cleveland Leader('11),World, Herald, News. Founded(Bates, continued), Madison News('18-27), Lake County Republican Herald associate editor('27- 30,death). He espoused writing brevity, accuracy and warmth. He called many famous people friend. Graduated Madison Seminary, Madison Kiwanis sec.many yrs.Boston sports writer; Grad. Roxbury Latin Sch.(1877), Harvard College(1881), Boston U. Law Sch.(1884); Boston Herald(1884-1907, sp.ed.1884-1901), Secretary of New England Baseball League, became insurance man(1915), (Morse, continued) Wrote a history of Baseball(Sphere & Ash,1888).Helped launch Baseball Magazine('08) & was one of its' Presidents & editors 'til 1912. Boston Traveler( ?-37, death).Managed Boston Nationals(U,1884). D. Heart attack at home, cremated.

(Hanna, continued) m. Eva A. Baker on Dec. 25,1884 in Maryville,Nodaway,MO; d. Stricken with stroke(apoplexy) May 24,1930, was taken to Army cadet hospital for 3 wks, and transferred to Idylease sanitarium,Newfoundland,NJ at his wishes to be near his(Hanna, continued), brother, Thomas K. Hanna. His style was noted for his eschewing of slang such as "swat,pill,horsehide",etc. His choice of words were those less chosen,terse,precise,kind. His style was succinct, his knowledge encyclopedic.

Pittsburgh sp.wr;Pitts. Post;BB statistician,wrote baseball history(Balldom,'14);Managed Canton in Tri-State League(1890)Original member BWAA('08),representing Pittsburgh.Involved with Louisville club(1890's);Organized Inter-State minor League(fall,1894).

NY spwr.; Norwalk HS, OH; st. ed.; Clev. Press gen. rep. & state ed., Clev. Leader sp.ed.(?-1888), Arrived NYC (1896), NY Evening Telegraph sp.ed. & city ed.(1896-11), NY Journal, NY Herald, NY Sun (1920-31), Consolidated Press Ass. (1918-20),(Foster) Credited with promoting Army Navy game at the Polo Grounds into national interest. Years on BB 's rules committee. Considered an authority on BB law, rules, admin. Credited with answering 500,000 questions on BB rules,(Foster) laws, and various phases of BB. Wrote digest of rules for the French. Was named official authority for rules for Japan. Official scorer at Polo Grounds. Couldn't attend games after '32, due to right side paralyzed. Followed BB via radio,papers.

(Foster) Giants' Secretary & business manager(Jan. 6, '13-1919, Dec. 4);Father:Francis Boardman:Mother;Flora Ann Beebe. Paralyzed on his right side his last 9 yrs., Buried: funeral services in NYC, cremated, ashes buried Rock Hill Cemetery, Foxboro, MA(Foster,continued), Editor-in-Chief of Spalding Official NL Base Ball Guide (1908-1941).Foster was a close second to his friend F. Richter in the baseball accomplishments he was able to achieve in a long BB lifetime.Like Richter, a must for Spink Award.

Denver, CO sp.ed.; Raised in Chicago,IL, Managed boxers & promoted prize fights, Chicago White Stockings GM (1886), Arrived Denver,CO in 1883, at age of 20 & stayed all his life. Became sports columnist for Denver Post within weeks of(Floto, continued) arriving in Denver. As boxing manager, he guided Bob Fitzsimmons and Jack Dempsey. As sports editor, he guided Gene Fowler and Damon Runyon. Was regarded as a Dean of Sports Writers. Colorful, knew famous sp. figures, Ruth, McGraw.(Floto) since last Sept., when stricken with epilepsy. Organiz. Otto Floto dog and pony show, out of which grew Selis-Gloto circus.Huge fight fan, saw most heavy-weight cham. fights. Schooled at Jesuit inst. in Dayton, OH. Kansas City, MO sp.ed. 2 yrs.

Chicago sp.wr.; Hamilton Spectator(Ontario) reporter, 1881, Sporting Journal(1888-1890), Chicago Times reporter, sp.ed.(1891-94), San Francisco Chronicle sp.ed.(1895), New Orleans Item(1896), Lake County Times man.ed.(1900-05), d. after 6 wk. illness(Keough, continued) Chicago Tribune sp. wr. & columnist (1905-12). While at The Chicago Tribune, he started and made famous The Wake of the News from 1905-12. It's thought to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Worked newspapers 31 yrs.

Pittsburgh spwr.; Raised Pittsburgh in his early youth. Pittsburgh Chronicle Telegraph sp. ed.,(1885-06) Also covered boxing under pen name Jim Jab. Began medical studies '06, U. of Pittsburgh, '10 medical degree. Practiced medicine into his 80's. Had worked in newspapers for 50 yrsChicago spwr.; Chicago Record (1890-1900) covered many sports. Grad. Purdue U. 1887, did newspaper work from 1887, moved Chicago June, 1890, moved quickly from cub to star reporter. In '93, collaborated with illustrator partner John McCutcheon at Chicago Morning News on editorial page columns(Ade, continued) describing Columbian Exposition, then he began his regular column "Stories of the Streets and of the Town". Paper became the Record. Began "fables in slang" in 1897. The Record published 8 collections of his columns. Left jornalism in 1900, did plays, musicals, screenplays. Was acknowleged as great master humorist.

Chicago writer; Political cartoonist created Mr. Dooley, saloon owner, wry observations on issues entertained readers for 30 yrs. His cartoons are collected in book forms. Chicago Daily News editorials & sports(1884-88), Chicago Times('1888-89)Dunne, continued), as political reporter,ed.wr. ,city ed.,Chicago Tribune reporter,ed.Sunday ed., Chicago Herald reporter(1890), Chicago Evening Post ed. page(1892), Chicago Journal managing ed.(1897-00), NYC Harper's Weekly/collier's Weekly('00-02),Dunne,continued),NY Morning Telegraph('02-04),American Magazine wrote dialect essays & monthly ed. In the Interpreter's House('06-13),Collier's Weekly political commentary('13-15,editor-in-chief '17-19).Payne Whitney died('24) & gave $500K to Dunne), When Payne Whitney died in 1924, he bequeathed $500,000. to Dunne, far more than enough to enable Dunne to live the rest of his life in high lavish fashion without need of further work. d. throat cancer hemorrhaging after long battle.

Pittsburgh Press sp. ed.(1893-1903),Pirates secretary('03-12,fall),Phil. Phillies owner & President('13).On Jan.15,'13,he headed a group that included his cousin,William F. Baker & Governor Tener of Penn. that bought the Phillies.Locke named Pres.,d. '13.

Chicago sp. ed.; Chicago Times sp. ed. in the early 1890's, Chicago Chronicle sp. ed., Chicago American sp. ed. (1907-1927), Los Angeles sp. ed.; Moved to California around 1927 for his health. Had been a well-known boxing/wrestling referee. (Smith, continued) Refereed many memorable fights. As a writer, he specialized in boxing/wrestling with occasional incursions into racing. d. In Hollywood Hospital, CA, from a paralytic stroke. Refereed Jack Johnson/Jim Flynn, Arthur Pelkey/LutherMCCarthy, both Totch/Hackenschmidt wr. matches, Benny Leonard/Charley White.St. Louis spwr. (1880's-1929); Sporting News column, "Back of Home Plate", Dec. 5, 1918 - 1929, Apr. 18; Started on St. Louis Globe-Democrat(1880's), Post-Dispatch(1896-?), The Republic, Globe-Democrat. Missouri Committee on Public Utility Information manager,1921-.

(Sheridan) While on Committee, he blew the whistle on some corrupt practices, and then tendered his resignation. Shortly thereafter he suffered nervous disorders, and received profess. care in sanitarium. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetey., St. Louis, MO(Sheridan, cont.) Sherry's column for Sporting News "Back of Home Plate", 1917-29, gained for him national respect as a baseball writer. He also wrote with authority on boxing, golf, and most sports. Personally, I suspect that his physical problems, (Sheridan) which started soon after he exposed government corruption,was a result of sabotage. I also suspect his so-called "suicide" may have been unsuspected homicide. He was found hanging in his room at Alexian Brothers Hospital, by a bathrobe cord.

NY sp.ed; NY Evening Post(1897-03), NY Tribune('04-16), NY World sp.ed.('16-31), NY World Telegram for 6 months, NY Herald Tribune('31-38). Introduced all-star FB games to NY, started the Herald-Tribune FB school. d. complications pneumonia, pleurisyChicago sports writer; Born Sweden, came to US @ 1883, worked way through Univ. of Chicago as newspaper correspondent, graduated in 1896. 20 yrs. sp. ed. Chicago Record-Herald, During war, did govern. work, Washington Herald('18-23). d. Pleurisy

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( Axelson, cont.),wrote bio. of White Sox owner Charles Comiskey(Commy,1919),Chicago Daily Journal (1923-26). He was also a member of the Masons,University Club,White Paper Club,National Press Club,original member Baseball Writers Association('08).Cinc.. Washington sp. wr.; Cincinnati Commercial Gazette sp.ed. (1890's), Pres. Amer. Ass. (Western League, Jan. 1, 1904 - Mar., 1905), Pres. Toledo BB club ('05-06), Washington Post, Washington Star (1911-17). d. 4 yrs. battle against softening of the brain.Baltimore, New York, Boston sports writer; Baltimore sp. wr.(1890's), New York Press sp. ed.(@1911-1916), Pres. of Newark BB club(International League), Newark BB team (Federal League) grounds manager (1916-24), AL eastern representative (NYC).

Boston sports writer,editor; Boston News cub reporter (?-1894), Boston Journal reporter (1894-00), Boston Herald copy desk head (1902-07), Boston Journal sp.ed. (1907-12), Boston Braves secretery (1912-15), Boston Globe news ed. (1925-45).

Chi. sp wr.;Dubuque,IA reporter(1884-?),Chicago Mail(1894-1895),Chicago Times-Herald(1895-?),Chicago Journal((1899-'04),Detroit Tribune,Cleveland News('05-12),Louisville Herald, Chicago Evening Post,Chicago Tribune(March 3,1918-44,death).Man.ed.(1899-18).

NY sp. wr; Family moved NYC(1882); New York Sun reporter,Subsequently worked as reporter, feature writer, columnist, city ed.(NY Morning Telegraph, New York World, NY Press, New York Times copy reader('08-13). Novelist, short stories, serials, song-writer

St. Louis sp.wr.; Schenectady,NY(1890's), Joplin,MO 2 papers ed. (News-Herald & Globe), Columbus(OH) Sun man. ed.('08-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(1910), St. Louis Republic( '10-16), Daily Oklahoma('16-19,My.), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(My.6,1919-41,death)Phil. Times(?-02), Phil. Phillies secretary & Treasurer (Dec. 1, 1904 - Jan. 25, 1909), NL secretary to President John H. Tener (Dec. 12, 1913 -16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('11-16, at least0), Lafayette College graduate manager of athletics ('21-46, retired).Detroit sp. wr; Detroit Free Press sports editor(1901-10),Washington Post sports editor('10-13),Detroit News-Tribune sp. ed.(1913-21) moved California('21),worked for various newspapers there. 1st President of Baseball Writers Ass. of America(1908-1919).San Antonio,TX spwr.; St. Mary College, Rpt, San Antonio Express, 1892: rpt and news ed, San antonio Light, 1894-06: Gazette, 1906-08; ed, Laredo Record, 1915; San Antonio corr bureau, Austin (Tex) Amer, 1916; ed, Eagle Pass Guide, 1918-21. W S:

Boston spwr.; Boston Brotherhood (Pl. L) catcher, Boston Nationals, St. Louis Browns; Sp.-Amer. War 9th Reg., WWI, Boston American BB writer, sp.ed.('04), Boston Journal. d. fell fr. 3rd floor window at his lodging house, crippled w/ arthritis.

Phil. spwr; Arriv. Philly in 1879, grad. Central H;. Phil. Times rep.(1891-1909), Phil. Press, Munsey's Evening Times('09-13), Phil. Evening Telegraph BB ed. ('13-17). Sporting News correspond.('09-17). d. typhoid-pneumonia, ill only a week.Cinc. spwr; Started on Cincinnati Enquirer(1897-08), as police reporter, then assessment clerk on city pay roll. Cincinnati Times-Star feature writer('12-25), succeeded Bill Phelon as BB writer in Aug.,'25 until retirement('53,Sept.) Retired from BB writing 2 yrs. before that. d. Heart attackChi. NY,Cincinnati sports writer/editor; Chi. Daily News (1888-1905, Oct.), Chi. Daily Journal (Oct.'05-08), Chi. Tribune (1908-10), NY Morning Telegraph (1910), Cincinnati Times-Star sp.ed. (spring,'10-25) .Easily most colorful eccentric sportswriter ever lived. Rube Waddell of BWAA.A great book should be written about him. As a writer, Bill was one of the best, and one of the most prolific. He was an associate editor of Baseball Magazine (March, 1913 - November, 1924). He had replaced Jake Morse (Boston sp.wr.), who himself had encyclopedic BB knowledgeof all things baseball. Also was Cincinnati correspondent for theSporting News. From 1889-1915, had scored over 3,500 ballgames. Made all road trips with Reds. Total home team rooter. Died after 3 days of Bright's disease. As a complete authority ofbaseball, he lived the game. Had been famous amateur ballplayer & boxer, was an actor, wrote for the stage, studied Indian lore, wrote baseball poetry, was twice married with a son; Contributed to Weekly BB Guide,Chicago BB News, Herald Examiner, NY World,Cinc. spwr; After Charles was dismissed by Cinc. owner Taft in March, 1910, he worked as press agent for the Cinc. Chamber of Commerce, Cinc. BB club, theaters and other institutions, off & on until his death. Never wrote BB again. Phil.,NY,Cle sports writer; Phil record(1887-91), Sporting News(1888-91), bank clerk(1891-1899),Aderondacks, organizer Phil.Symphony Orchestra('03-05),NY Press BB ed.('07-11), Eastern League,secretary('11-?),Wash. & Lee University Pres. rep.

(Lanigan,continued), farmed on the Hudson River, Cleveland Leader BB ed. ('16-?), Syracuse Stars Press rep('20-?), International League information director,NYC('35-42), Baseball's Hall of Fame historian at Cooperstown('46-59).

Phil. sportswriter; Phil evening Item(police reporter(1895-1900),Phil. Times sp.ed.(('00-02),Phil. Public Ledger sp.wr.('02-19),BR Keith's Theater('14-20,at least), Phil. Booking Agency,PR office('33-43),Phil. corn Exchange National Bank&Trust co.('43-?)

NYC spwr.; Minneapolis Tribune, NY Evening Telegram, NY Herald, NY Evening Mail, NY Morning Telegraph, NY Globe('12) & others. Stricken with paralysis in May, & confined to home ever since. Liebler & Co. press reporter. d. stroke

Chi. & NY spwr; Cincinnati Enquirer spwr(1889-93), Chicago Record(1896-97), Chicago Tribune spwr(1897-1907), Chicago Herald spwr(1907-12), Chicago Herald and Examiner(1913-19), New York Mail spwr(1919-21), Liberty Weekly ass. ed.(Magazine)(1923-28),

(Fullerton, continued) Hugh conducted The Wake of the News from June 9, 1912 - June, 1913. After death of Hugh Keough, its originator Hugh wrote it until Ring Lardner took it over. It's believed to be the oldest, continuous sports column in the US.

Phil., St. Louis sp. cartoonist, spwr; Stud. Pitts. Art Sch., Penn. Acad. Fine Arts, Art Students League in NY. NY American art dept. (1898-?), Phil. North Amer. art dept., Managed arts dept. of Pittsburgh Press & Pittsburgh Dispatch,(Wolfe, continued) Phil. Inquirer sp. cartoonist/feature wr.(1907-22). Began as sports cartoonist, evolved into a cartoonist/ sports writer. His sports cartoons appeared on the covers of The Sp. News many years. Retired newspaper work '29. Free-lanced(Wolfe, continued) Mr. Wolfe free-lanced after 1929, his work appearing in Nation's business, Liberty, sporting News, Saturday Evening Post, among many others. For a time, he wrote column for Phil. Daily News. He always used his pen name, Jim Nasium.St. Louis sp. wr. & sp. ed.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1900-02). St. Louis Globe-Democrat (1902-06), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1906-46), He retired as sp. ed. in '46, but continued his column, "Wray's Column", which he had started in '08, until August, '55

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St. Louis sp. ed.; St. Louis Republic's sp. ed. (1894- 19), Texas oil companies' PR ('19-24), St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.wr.('24-40, retirement), specialized horse racing / baseball. d. heart disease. Buried: Catholic Calvary Cemetery, St. Louis, MOBrooklyn spwr. & sp. ed.; Started as errand boy on the Brooklyn Times in 1889. He evolved throught copy boy in ed. dept. to religious ed., general reporter, baseball writer (1909), and finally sp. ed. Brooklyn Times-Union (1898-38).Chicago spwr.; Chicago U.(1895-97), Chicago Times-Herald(1895-98), Chicago Record sp.ed.(1898-1901), Chicago Herald reporter(1901), Chicago Tribune('01-03), Chicago Tribune sp.ed.(1909-20). Woodruff inherited the sports column, In the Wake of the

(Woodruff) News, at Chicago Tribune, fr. Ring Lardner Nov.25, 1919.This renowned sports column had hosted such writers as Hugh Fullerton, Hugh Keough, Lardner('13-19). When Woodruff died, the column passed to Arch Ward('37-55), who held it to his death.Salt Lake Tribune(UT) sp.ed.,VP of Pioneer League,which he helped organize. Helped bring Salt Lake City into the Pacific Coast League('15). When team moved Hollywood('25),he went as ass. sec.Returned to Tribune('27). Worked on papers in Butte,Helena,MT.St. Louis spwr./sp. ed.; Grad. St.Louis U.; Ass. sp.ed.St. Louis Post-Dispatch ('05-07); St. Louis Star sp.ed. ('07 to 25). Original founding member of BWAA. d. acute indigestion, after repeated attacks acute indigest.. Bur: Calvary Cem., St. Louis, MO

St. Louis spwr; Phil. Public Ledger rep.,Sporting News(1895-96),St. Louis Globe-Democrat sp.ed. & sp. wr.(1897),St. Louis Star(1898), St. Louis Star Chronicle(?-07), St. Louis Times('07-11),Sp. & Stage('12),World Sporting('14). PR manager(Hot Springs,AR),

NY spwr., humorist; Paducah Evening News reporter(1892), by age 19, he had been made managing ed; Louisville Evening Post(1898-), NY Evening Sun, NY & Evening & Sunday World(--), This job made Irvin the highest paid staff reporter in US. (Cobb, continued) Paducah Democrat managing ed. (1901), NY Evening News reporter(1904), NY & Evening & Sunday World feature writer(1904), Saturday Evening Post(1911), Wrote his autobiography, Exit Laughing, at end of his life. Sold well. But Cobb's career lasted only a brief decade or two. After the crash of 1929 he became increasingly conservative in politics and philosophy. As he became more conservative, his humor became increasingly forced and to compensate he posed more and more as

(Cobb, continued) the professional Southerner. Always doubtful of his own abilities as writer and thinker, he was mortally wounded by the criticism of such elite critics as H. L. Mencken who pushed him into a low-brow niche in American culture. Forcing

NY sp.ed.; reporter for Publishers' Press, Scripps-McRae League, United Press; NY Associated Press('07-30) news editor of eastern US. He also covered most national events such as political conv.,World Series, boxing, horse races, etc. Retired('30).(Brandebury,cont.), Rabid baseball fan, AL fan, Yankee fan. Joined NYC office of A.P. in 1907 and grad. from star reporter, city ed, day manager of the NY bureau & eventually news ed. of eastern US, 'till retirement in '30. Huge collector of stamps.

Newark, NJ spwr.; Newark Star composing room (1893-?), Newark Evening Star sp.ed. ( 1901-05), Newark Ledger sp.ed. (1905-11), , Newark News sp.ed., (1911-19). Retired from newspaper work to take up advertising work.

San Francisco spwr.; San Jose Mercury News (CA) editorial dept.; reporter/ sp. ed. Portland Evening Telegram (OR), San Francisco Morning Call; San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1906-25?), His column was entitles, "Sports Mirror".

Phil. spwr.; Phil. North American ('05?-16), Buffalo, NY Pierce-Arrow Automobile Co. (Nov.26, 1918-Aug.17, 1919), Chandler car co. (Oct.16, 1921-Aug.26, 1927), Cleveland White Motor Truck co., (Aug.26, 1927-Sept.27, 1931), Studebaker Motor Co. Launched Rockne car, sales manager (Sept. 27, 1931-32, retired)Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Kenyon College(1900); Cleveland Plain Dealer feature syndicate writer ('00-06), Cleveland Press sp.ed.('06-11), Chicago Newspaper Enterprise Ass.('11-?), ,Chicago Evening Post sp.ed.('17-29),

NY spwr.; NY Tribune, enlisted WWII, NY World, NY Evening Sun (7 yrs.), NY Evening Journal (1925-?), NY American, NY Journal American, Also worked for papers in Wash,DC & Syracuse, NY, NY Daily News('50-59, June). Wrote BB, FB, Boxing, Rowing.

sportswriter; Bost. ('96-09),Phil. Evening Times ('09-39), Cleveland Leader(1914), Cleveland Plains Dealer, Phil. Press sp.ed. ('12-?), Phil. Inquirer sp.ed. ('21-27), Phil. Record sp.ed.('28-31), Camden Courier Post (NJ) reporter & columnist(?-'39). D. New Jersey State Hospital for 18 months before death. Health declined after death of wife in Dec., '38.

Chi.,St. Louis spwr.; Chicago Chronicle('03-05), Chicago Examiner('06), Chicago American('07),St. Louis Post-Dispatch('08-10), Chicago Tribune & NY Daily News sp.ed('11-26)3 yrs. in NY, Chicago Journal('27), Chicago Daily News('28-32), Pres. BWAA('29-30).

Phil. spwr.: Grad. Temple U. (1898); Philadelphia Record(1911-13), Detroit Free Press (1901-02); Phil. Record ('02-?); Phil. Inquirer (motor boat regattas), Phil. Public Ledger ('17-22), In '27, Phil. Record, handicapping horses, under "Joe Finn".

SF & NY spwr.: Stanford U.; Spanish-Amer. War (1898), San Francisco Call (1900) boxing beat, SF Chronicle, SF Examiner reporter, SF Bulletin city ed./man. ed.; San Francisco Evening Post city ed., managing ed.: Arrived NYC 1914; NY Evening Journal boxing writer (1914), Began covering ML BB in '15 for NY Trib.

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(McGeehan, continued) NY Tribune spwr. then sp. ed.; WWI (1917), no overseas, trained infantrymen; NY Tribune man. ed. (1921), NY Herald sp.ed. with daily column (1922). In 1924, Herald merged with Tribune. NY Herald Tribune sp.ed. (1924-33). (McGeehan, continued) McGeehan is credited with originating the "Aw, Nuts" style of sports journalism. They didn't write to create heroes, blow athletes out of proportion into myths, legens, or cultural legends. They wrote to be critical but fair analysts. Fought to find the men under the hype. Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Leader sp.ed.(1898-?), Pittsburgh Dispatch sp.ed., Pittsburgh Post sp.ed, Pittsburgh Sun sp.ed.('08-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph columnist('27-37), Pittsburgh Pirates publicity agent(Jan.'37-55).

Worked w/ Louis McHenry Howe,confidante of Pres. Roosevelt,radio interviews, on government issues. In 1934, he joined the staff of Will H. Hays as Washington representative. Hays was the President Motion Picture Producers and Distributors of America.Chicago sp.wr.; Edu: Trinity College, Hartford, CT & U. of Minnesota; Chicago Tribune (1904-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Chronicle, Chicago Record-Herald at least Sept, 1908-12,14; Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Evening Post, column On the Sport Trail With Malcolm MacLean.(MacLean, continued) He traveled with the Cubs & Sox for yrs. Represented Chicago for 5 yrs. In BWAA. Ass. Sunday ed. of Chicago Tribune. Ill health promted him to leave his home in Western Springs, for Cal. last spring. At time of death, was with Los Angeles Evening Express staff. D. at home, Pasadena, CA

Atlanta, NY spwr.; edu: Wallace Univ. Sch. Nashville,TN; Vanderbilt U. ed. The American Golfer; Nashville Daily News; Atlanta Journal sp.ed (1902-05); Cleveland News (1905-07); Nashville Tennessean spwr.(1907-10); NY Evening Mail sp. columnist (1910-13)NY Tribune spwr. & syndicated columnist (1913-24), NY Herald Tribune (1924-54). Wrote many books, and contributed to numerous magazines. The quinessential Southern Gentleman, Granny Rice was without a shadow of a doubt the most well-known & loved spwr.

Philadelphia sports writer; Cincinnati Times-Star assistant to Charles Zuber(1895-1905), Phil. North American sports writer 1905-25, Phil. Inquirer baseball editor & sports editor until his stroke September 17, 1940. Helped break the '19 scandal.spwr; Worked for 17 newspapers in his career, starting in 1898. Warren(PA) Democrat, Times, Mirror, 1899-1902; McKeesport Herald, 1902; Pittsburgh Post, News, 1902; Youngstown Vindicator, 1902-06; Clev Plain dealer, 1907-09; Penton Pub Co,1909;(Neily) Detroit Times, 1910; St. Louis Times sp.ed, 1910-13; St. Louis Feds buss. man. (FL,'14), Denver Times, Rocky Mts News, 1914-15; Chicago Herald, 1916.Last paper was Chicago American('16-33), early member of BBWAA,

Chi.,Det. sports writer; Detroit Tribune('02-?), Chicago Inter-Ocean, Chicago Record-Herald(Sept.,'08-?), Detroit News, Detroit Athletic Club,secretary('12-53,death). Was active in founding the Boy Scouts of America. Ed./owner Det.Athletic Club News.St. Louis spwr; St. Louis U., Worked in bank 4 yrs. St. Louis Republic sp. ed.('01-08), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('08-14), St. Louis FL team traveling secretary(spr. '14-15, Dec)St. Louis Browns traveling secretery (Dec.'15 - 1936, Nov.14)

NY sp. wr.; Arrived NYC('03), His column "The Conning Tower" appeared in many papers, his radio program "Information Please"('38-48) was on TV for 13 weeks in '52. Chicago Journal('03-04), NY Evening Mail('04-14), NY Tribune('14-22), NY World('22-31).(Adams,continued), New York Herald-Tribune('31-37,March), NY Post('38-41). A quote of his service in World War I, "I didn't fight & I didn't shoot, but, General, how I did salute." He also wrote the "Tinkers to Evers to Chance" baseball ditty.

Pittsburgh sports writer; Davis replaced William Locke 1903 as sports ed. of Pittsburgh Press & also as Sporting News' Pitts. correspondent on his 21st birthday. Was also 33rd degree Mason,taught Bible class,original member Baseball Writers Ass.('09).

NJ / NY spwr.' Newark Daily Advertiser (1904-?), several more Newark newspapers until 1921, NY Sun sp. Wr. & copy ed. (1921-50), Newark Star-Ledger copy ed. of sports depart. (1950-52). He had a column in the Sunday sports section was "Down Memory Lane". d. at home after a long illness.Atlanta sports writer; Atlanta Georgian(Jan.'09-10), Kansas City Star('10-13), Atlanta Georgian('13-20), Atlanta Journal('20-50). Specialized in golf coverage in general & Bobby Jones in particular. Also covered careers of Alexa Stirling & Perry Adair.NY sp.wr.; Attended Harvard College ('05), Waterbury American (fall,'05-09, NY Times('09-20,24-25), NY Evening Post sp. ed.('20-24), NY Herald-Tribune sp. wr. ('26-41 non-baseball,42-45, NY Giants). Member of BB H of F committee(Jun.18,'45-Apr.3,'46,death)

Detroit sp. ed. Detroit Free Press sp. ed.Started at least by 1911, perhaps earlier. Was with the Free Press, from at least, 1911-30; left newspaper work in '31, and joined an ad agency, last year worked for Detroit brokerage firm.

NY sp. wr.; NY World Boxing writer & biographer/ghost wr. for Jack Dempsey; Had a long-running column in NY World(Pardon My Glove). Was Director of Boxing Writers Ass. & it's Pres.('58). Dempsey's Press agent. Newspaper Enterprise Ass.Chicago & NY spwr.: edu; Lewis Inst, chicago, IL Editor, writer, Hearst Syndicates, Chicago American rep., editor, 1903-13, dramatic critic, 1914-16; Chicago Herald feature writer, Chicago Tribune, (1920-?), Newspaper Feature Service;

Conducted the Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June, 1919, after Ring Lardner left for NYC until Harvey Woodruff took it over in Nov., 1919. Oldest, continuous sports column in the US. Editor-in-Chief NY Daily Mirror, 1936-52.

NY spwr.; Grad. Wesleyan U. (1913), WW1, NY Morning Telegraph (1915-18), Went to Hollywood in 1924 to head comedy motion picture studio. His column was "On the Side". Worked for King Features Syndicate, d. brain tumor

St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Republic printer's devil, police reporter, baseball writer (1901-?), St. Louis Browns traveling sec. May, 1903-fall, 1904), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (Fall, 1904-Spring, '05), New York Globe, Commercial Advertiser (1905-20), NY Journal writer (1920-45), which evolved into the Journal-American. (Mercer, continued) Covered NY Yankees from 1920-23, and then moved to boxing beat. Sid returned to covering the Yankees in 1931 and stayed with them until his death. D. Stricken with acute stomache problem, Sept., 1942, in Cleveland. Recovered, but Detroit sp. wr.;Providence Journal(RI)('03-06),Detroit Free Press(sp.wr.'06-10,sp. ed.'10-17),Detroit News('17-19),Ended his active coverage of baseball in 1917,when he joined Detroit News & went to France as war correspondent.Arrived home to advertising. Edited Detroit Athletic club magazine.

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St. Louis, NY spwr.; St. Louis Post-Dispatch sp. ed. (1903-?), NY Evening Journal editorial staff, 12 yrs. During WWI, he was member of the dept. of news censorship on committee of public Info. Cosmopolitan Motion Picture corp. production manager for 6 yrs. Wrote crime book, "From Cain to Capone". Chicago, Phil. sp.ed.; Chicago American('06-12), Phil.('12-16), Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. ('16-22). FB official. d. Phil. hospital from injuries in car crash on June 25. Recognition as guard on Chicago U. FB team, then Swarthmore C. FB team '04 & 05.

Chicago spwr;Columbus Citizen(Ohio) reporter('06),Chicago Record-Herald('06-15),Clev. Newsp. Enterpr. Ass. sp.ed.('16,Nov.),Chicago Record-Herald(Nov.'16-19), Chicago Evening American('19-32), ed. BB Who's Who('33-40's),Chicago American(early '40's-49)NYC sp. wr. & author; Arrived NYC('11), served 1912-16 as Hearst foreign correspondent in Mexico & Europe. Made his name as author of novels with colorful Broadway characters. Many of his novels were used for movies,such as Guys & Dolls('55),(Runyon,continued),Double Indemnity('44),Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown('55),Little Miss Marker,with Shirley Temple('34),Lemon-Drop Kid('51),Lady For A Day('33),A Slight Case of Murder('38), d. developed throat cancer('38), lost speech('44), after operation.Phil. spwr.: Pittsburgh Gazette-Times (1900-08); Phil. Press baseball writer (1907- ?); Phil. Public Ledger sp.ed. Sunday sports Magazine; American Shooters Magazine ed. ; American Trap Shooting Ass. GM; Phil. Evening Public Ledger sp. columnist ('22-32)(McLinn) Phil. Record chief sp. columnist ('32-35); Sports Announcer on WIP station ('35-?). Conducted dugout interviews with Mack & Ahtletics. His Dad, Rev. Milton E. McLinn, moved family to Louden County, VA. Was noted athlete in HS & college.Pitts. sp.wr.; Sharon Telegraph sp.wr.;Mov. Pittsburgh('14),began covering Pirates in '15. Pitts. Gazette-Times('14-27),Pitts. Sun-Telegraph('27-58,Jan.6).Served WW1 in France as Pitts. Gazette-Times correspond. Sp.News correspond. His column:Chillysauce

Detroit sports writer, newspaper executive; Detroit News police reporter('01),Detroit New sp.ed.('03-10),Detroit News city ed.('10-14),Detroit News managing ed.('14-28),Detroit News London bureau chief('28-30),Detroit Free Press ed. director('30-53,death)(Bingay,continued), Detroit Free Press editorial director('30-53,death), In '34,Bingay created column in the Free Press with wild character named Iffy, which became wildly popular.Bingay disclosed his authorship('39).His cartoonist,Fred S. Nixon.Chicago,NY,Boston sports writer; Chicago Inter Ocean('07-10), Chicago Examiner('10),Chicago Tribune('10), Sporting News man. ed.('10),Boston American,sp.ed.(Feb.'11-'11,Oct), Chicago American,copy reader,Chicago Examiner,sp.writer; Equally good at BB & FB

(Lardner, continued), Chicago Tribune(June,'12-19), Conducted The Wake of the News for the Chicago Tribune from June, 1913 to June, 1919, when he left for NYC. Oldest, continuous sp. column in US. NY Bell Syndicate of John N. Wheeler('19-27) (Lardner, continued) When he went to work for the Bell Syndicate of John Wheeler, he wrote a weekly column, moved his family from Chicago to NYC, traveled the US covering major sporting events, continued his fiction for magazines. In 1932, he published (Lardner, cont.) a series of autobiographical articles for Saturday Evening Post. Ring was diagnosed with TB. He died following a heart attack. He became extremely disillusioned with baseball after 1920, due to the live ball style of Babe Ruth HRs.

Boston, Atlanta, NY spwr.; Worchester Gazette, Boston American(1904-07), NY Evening Journal(1907-12), Atlanta Georgian sp.ed.(1912-14), NY American sp.ed.(1914-25), NY Journal(1925-37), spent all his last 8 yrs. as VP of 20th Century Sporting Club.

St. Paul & Sask. spwr.; Regins. Sask., Telegram sp.ed.; St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) Sp.ed. Associated with the St. Paul Pioneer Press for 11 yrs.; considered an expert on baseball & hockey. d. ill for several monthsBost.,NY; NY Morning Telegram sp.ed., boxing expert (1923) (20 yrs), NY Sun, NY World(boxing ed.),Boston American sp.ed. & columnist, Boston Globe news ed., NY Press sp. writer, NY Madison Square Garden Corp. PR director; New England War Production board salvage Div. PR director

Editor-in-Chief Baseball Magazine(Boston,'10-12), ('12-38, NYC). Wrote probably close to 1,000 excellent detailed articles on baseball's technical side as well as interviews w/stars at home in winter. H of Fame must. After retiring in 1937 from the(Lane) editor's chair, he returned to Cape Cod for his long life. Headed Piedmont College's Hist. Dept.('41-43) at Demorest, GA. Established journalism program there. He traveled extensively with wife Emma, whom he married in June, 1914. Together they(Lane) made many overseas voyages,circling globe 6 times. Wrote several books on geography & nature for adults & youths, '40's-50's. Publ. his poems in '58(On Old Cape Cod). Lived their final yrs. in Cape Cod nursing home,she died 10 months after him.

Chicago spwr.; Family moved from Ireland to Philadelphia when he was 5. Attended parochial school, De La Salle Academy; telegraph operator, Chicago Tribune (1911-20), chief of Los Angeles Times office in Chicago, IL (1920-46).

NY spwr.; NY Daily News (1922-29), NY Times (1929-59). At 11 he became a reporter and a printer's devil with an Iowa weekly. Later, moved to Walnut Grove Banner (Illinois) for $15. a month, & later became a railroad telegrapher & wire reporter for AP.NY sports writer;Cleveland Press('07-08), Cleveland News('08-09),Clev.Press('09-11), NY Nat. News Ass.('11-32),King Features sp.ed.,International News,Universal Service,California('32-35), Universal('35-?),NY Press,ed.,Press Agent Kentucky Derby('38-45).(Menke cont.) Wrote Encyclopedia of Sports(1st ed, '34), his last ed. was publ. Nov.,'53. He worked w/ Col.Matt J. Winn of Kentucky Derby fame on his autobio.(Down the Stretch),worked w/ Ty Cobb,Gene Tunney,James J. Corbett & others on their autobio's.

Phil. sportswriter; son of famed Phil. sportswriter & editor-in-chief of AL Reich Guide('02-26) Francis C. Richter; Phil. North American, Phil. Press sp.ed., Phil. Chamber of Commerce PR director)'22-47), Dept. store Lit Brothers PR director('47-57).

Detroit spwr; Detroit Journal reporter & sp. ed. (1907-19), Dearborn News, Own PR & advertising firm in Detroit. Arrived in NYC in '34, J. R. Thompson ad agencyl, free-lance writer, WWII - Army intelligence colonel, prolific author.

spwr, referee, served as founder, editor, & publisher of The Ring('22); Grad. CCNY('08), Taught in NYC public schools, and became reporter NY Press('12-?), NY Sun, NY Telegram(?-29), Wrote over 50 books. In '42, ed. & pub. Ring Record Bk. & Boxing Ency.

Chicago sp. wr; Kalamazoo Gazette('06), South Bend Tribune(IN), Chicago Inter-Ocean('09), Chicago Examiner, Chicago Associated Press('11-'16, Midwest sp.ed. '16-52,Sept.) Baseball was his favorite, but also loved track & boxing. d. heart attack

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NYC Sports writer; Phil. News bureau(magazine & newspaper('10), New York Press, baseball ed.('11-16), NY Morning Sun('16-21), NY Telegram, baseball ed.('21-27), NY Evening Post(Mar.'27-34), moved to St. Petersberg,FL('34)(Lieb,continued), Sporting News correspondent('35-58) & columnist('43-47), St. Petersburg Times(Florida)('65-77). Feb.,'80-Jun.5,1980 nursing home Houston,TX. World Series scorer('22-24), covered World Series('11-58). Sporting News historian for yrs.

Los Angeles spwr.; Sports writer, publicist; Pacific Coast League baseball for local newspapers (1909-31), Evening Express, then Herald & Express, credited with discovering Heine Manush, left newspaper work in '31 for publicist.ass. In charge of PR to David Fleming, Pres. Of Angels in 1938; After Pearl Harbor, he volunteered for the USO, and served them till the end of the war. Also worked for Pro Bow, Jr. rose Bolw, Helms Foundation, yearly Shrine Hosp. Prep FB game.

St. Louis sports writer; St. Louis Star office boy in sp. dept.(Oct.'01-07,Apr.), St. Louis Times(Apr.'07-29,Dec.), St. Louis Star(Dec.'29-33), Star Times('33-51,Jun.15), St. Louis Post-Dispatch(Jun.15,'51-52,Jun.15), Hall of Fame director(Jun.15,'52-63).

St. Louis sports writer; Sporting News ed.('30-54,Jun.). Started('11), Worked for papers in Champaign,IL,Rockford,Il, Great Falls,MT, Helena,MT, Collyer Publishing Co.(Chicago managing ed., which specialized in sp.publ.) BB hist. expert, WWI service.

Cinc. spwr; Moved Dayton '00, Dayton Herald('08-14), Cleveland Press(Mar.,1914-15,Sept.), Cinc.Post sp. ed.(Sept.,1915-?), WWI, Cinc. Post(1918-69). long-time Sp. News correspondent, statistics expert, President of BWAA('41). Loved golf. d. cancerCleveland spwr.; Det. Free Press('11), Toledo Blade, Dayton, Ann Arbor, Cleveland Leader copy reader,Started weekly sp. mag.,failed, Firestone Tire ad. dept.,Cleveland dept. store ad. man, Cleveland Plain Dealer('18), Cleveland Press sp.ed. (1930). Retired by '56NY s pwr.; NY Morning Telegraph reporter('08,10-11), NY Evening Sun('09), New York Tribune(copyreader, rewrite man,sports writer,sp.ed.,war correspondent, critic,columnist('11-21), NY World('21-28), NY Telegram('28-31), NY World-Telegram('31-39),

Chicago spwr.; Milwaukee Sentinel ('09-10), Chicago Record-Herald (Jan.2, 1910-14), Chicago Examiner (Oct.,'14-19), Chicago Tribune (June,'19-57, Nov.1). Known as baseball writer, but also wrote football in season. Covered 7,000 games, WS - 1911-57.

Washington spwr.; Earned Bach. / Master's NYU; NY World reporter, city ed., ass. Sports ed.; Arrived Washington, DC in 1917; Washington Post sports & city editor, editorial writer (1917 - 1925), Kinograms motion pictures newsreels ed. (NY); North American Newspaper Alliance feature writer 1932).

(FitzGerald, continued) Director / Moderator of American Sch. Of the Air, a program of Columbia Brdcsting Sys.; Info Dir. Dept. Labor under Miss Frances Perkins (1933-45), Ass. to Pres. Truman's assistnant (John R. Steelman); appointed PR staff of George Washington U. (Jan. 24, 1959) to handle press info of scientific activities.

Hartford Times(CT) sp. wr. ; Began career at age 15 in 1905 as part-time reporter for his father's newspaper New London Day. Worked on Boston Post, Hartford Post, Hartford courant & Providence Journal; Hartford Times(Sept. 20,1920-1974,Jan.'74).St. Louis spwr.; St. Louis U. St. Louis Times (1908-09), St. Louis Post-Dispatch BB ed. (1909-17), WWI, Southwest Bell Telephone Co. PR dept. (1917), ass. VP of PR for AT&T ('27), ass. to Walter S. Gifford, the Pres. (1930). Retired (1950). father:John O'Conner mother:Mary Shaughnessy married: Edna ChenierExecutive; Admitted bar, WWI (Judge Advocate's dept.), law partnership, Worked in Judge Landis' office as his assistant & councel. He conducted investigations, wrote up Landis' decisions, supervised record-keeping in office ( Jan.,'21 - 44, November).(O'Connor) Acting Commissioner ( Dec.,'44 - 45, May), special ass. to Comm. happy chandler (June - Oct., '46), VP & GM White Sox (Nov., '45- 48, Nov.), ML exec. council ('46-47), counsel Coast L. & later ('56-59) Pres. & attorney AA.

New York spwr.; NY American sp. wr.(Oct.'17-24), NY Daily Mirror sp.ed.(24-25), NY American man. ed.('25-28), NY Morning Telegraph('28), free lance biographer('28-60). Himself a true character, known for his many affairs. Hollywood script writer (Fowler) Biographies: William Fallon, famous NYC attorney(The Great Mouthpiece,'31), John Barrymore(Good Night, Sweet Prince,'43), Jimmy Walker,NYC mayor,'26-32(Beau James,'49), Jimmy Durante(Schnozzola,'51), Minutes of the Last Meeting(W.C. Fields)

(Daniel, continued) Ring Magazine in 1922, Could also handle FB. Pres. BBWAA, Baseball Rules committee, Won Spink Award in 1972, BB's Hall of Fame Veterans committee, Chairman of NY chapter of BWAA, more honors/awards than can be listed. buried: Forrest Lawn Memorial Gardens, Pompano Beach, FL

Los Angeles spwr.; Grad. Occidental C. ('21), LA Times political columnist for 30 yrs. Began his "By the Way" column in '39. TV & radio commentator for many yrs. Joined LA Times after grad. & covered movies, autos, aeronautics. Began radio '22.

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Cleveland spwr.; Providence Journal spwr. ('08-20), Cleveland Plain Dealer spwr. (1920-25), sp.ed. ('25-46). d. at home of cerebral hemorrhagae, after suffering stroke on June 9. good bowler, golfer, FB referee, directed Golden Gloves tournament.NYC spwr., synd. owner; St. Vincent College, LA; S. Cal. Univer. Law; Los Angeles Herald spwr. & cartoonist (1911-13), Motor Cars advertising manager (San Francisco) 1913-16, Detroit advertising ('17), Christy Walsh Syndicate (1921).(Walsh, continued) started managing sports stars, such as Babe Ruth( he helped him organize his finances till wife Claire fired him),Founded newspapers sports syndicate('19-37), a group of sp. wr. to ghost write stars "autobio's.

NY sp.wr.; Staten Island Advance (NY)('15-23), NY Times(May 28,'23-'64, April 4), Sporting News correspondent, specialized in baseball most of his career. Was an accomplished pianist. BB Hall of Fame ('74,Spink Award) d. crematedChicago spwr.; Grad. Swarthmore C.('13), Philadelphia ('13-14), Chicago reporter ('14), Advertising('20-30). Chicago Daily News drama ed. sp. ed., amusement ed, picture ed. ('30-43). Became managing ed. ('43-46), Sun-Times columnist('46-49)(Lewis, cont.) Biographies: Abraham Lincoln (Myths After Lincoln, 1929), General Sherman (Sherman, Fighting Prophet, 1932, almost finished a bio on Grant(Captain Sam Grant, 1949). Co-authored a history of Chicago. Lectured history at Chicago U. ('3738)

St. Louis spwr.; Raised St. Louis, Attended U. of St. Louis, St. Louis Times (1914-16), St. Louis Republic (1916-17), St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1917-61, Aug. 1). Sports desk in '23, then desk chief for many yrs. Occasionally went to spring training with Browns/ Cardinals. Long-time contributor to Sporting News. d. heart attack

Phil., NY; Phil. Press sp. wr,Phil Public Ledger sp. wr.,Phil. Inquirer sp. wr.,NY Times sp. copy desk('22-29), Chicago(Brunswick - Balke - Collender Co, Ins., PR director.,'20-34); NY Daily copy ed('34), NY Times (city ed.,'34, city desk obits('35-43)

Philadelphia, NY sp.wr.; Phil. Evening Star, Phil. Bulletin, Phil. Record('12-?), Phil. Public Ledger('?-29,Feb.20), NY Times(Feb.1929 '32,Oct.9), Phil. Public Ledger(Oct.9,1932-34,Nov.), PR director of NL Service Bureau(Nov.,'34-45), (Brandt,continued), Dr. Brandt, in addition to sp. writing, was an osteopathic physician,who graduated in 1911.After leaving the NL Service Bureau in '45, he conducted national radio sp. program 5 days a wk.(Inside of Sp.) for the Mutual Brdcsting system.

Boston sports writer; Boston Journal, specialized in boxing (1913-17), US Navy ('17-18), Boston Record, specialized in BB, ('18-21), Boston Post, became ass. Sp. ed. in '22. Big follower of Red Sox. ('21-56), Red Sox publicity director('56-70).

Pittsburgh sports writer; Pitts. Hill Top Record('13-?), Pitts. Tri-State News Service, Pitts. Chronicle Telegraph('16-27), Pitts. Sun Telegraph('27-29), Pitts. Post-Gazettle sp.ed.('29-47, death). His writing style was scholarly blended with Irish wit.

San Francisco spwr.: San Francisco Bulletin 1907-?, San Francisco Examiner 1926-69. Started as copy boy on Bulletin, divided his time between baseball and horse racing. In '69, his paper put him on a desk, to make him quit, on account of his age.St. Louis,NY sports writer; St. Louis Republic('13-19), St. Louis Globe-Democrat('19-?),Akron, Cleveland News,Milwaukee News(Wisconsin), St. Louis Post-Dispatch, New York Herald('23-24), New York Sun('24-50,sp.ed.34-50). Primarily boxing writer.(Woods,cont.),served 11 mo. in naval aviation unit in France(WWI),Lived FL since retirement('50), d. stroke at home; In '26, Boxing Writers Ass. formed, elected Wood Pres.; When Joe Vila died('34), Wood replaced him as sp. ed of NY Sun untll '50.

NYC spwr; Born Harlem,NYC; NY Sun spwr('15-34), sports columnist('34-43), Look magazine sp. ed.('43-45), NY Journal-American sports columnist, Graham's Corner('45-65). Wrote 6 sports books. Boxing authority. d. Fractured skull in bathroom fall at homeSF,Chicago,NY spwr; Born California; San Francisco Call-Post; NY Mail('22-23), Chicago Herald Examiner sp. ed.('23-39),Chicago Herald-American('39- Sept. 25, 1941), Chicago Sun sp.ed.(Nov. 27, 1941 - Dec. 20, 1946), Chicago Herald-American (Dec. 20, 1946 - July, 1967, Chicago Today(1967 - 1974). Chairman Hall of Fame Veterans Committee.

NY sp. wr.; Attended Morris HS,attended NY School of Fine & Applied Arts, attended National Academy of Design(NY) for 1 yr., Served 2 yrs. in US Navy(World War I); Baseball Magazine art director & ass. editor('19-37), Editor-in-Chief,art director('37-54).

Los Angeles spwr.; Los Angeles Times sports columnist, cartoonist artist (1922-32), did many magazine covers. Sports cartoonist, "Seein' Stars", appeared in hundreds of newspapers from 1941-53. Came in 3rd in High Hurdles at 1920 Antwerp, Belgian Olympic Games.Phil. sp.wr.; Served in WW1, returned home Aug.,1919, Attended Temple U.(Phil), Sporting Life ed. staff(Phil), Philadelphia Record covered both the Phillies & Athletics(spr.'24-47). Phillies PR staff in charge of press & radio service('47-56).

Minneapolis Journal sp.wr.('10), Minneapolis Tribune night sp.ed.('11-12),Indianapolis Star('13-15), Det. Free Press news reporter('16-17), WW1('18), ToledoTimes telegraph ed.(OH)('19)city ed.('20), St. Louis Times managing ed.('21-23) d. brain hemorrhage

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(Farrington, continued) ST. Louis Post-Dispatch feature ed.('24), Sporting News ed.('24-28), NY Herald Tribune news makeup('28-30), St. Louis Times sp.ed.('30-32), Sporting News Ass.Ed. - column "Fanning with Farrington" ('32-43).

NY spwr.; Des Moines newspaper, United Press office in NY('12),St. Louis,Dallas,TX as a reporter, buss. manager. Went to London, England as foreign correspondent with Amer. Expeditionary Force, '16. Enlisted US Navy. After war, returned to UP('19)(Pegler, continued) in NY office, as spwr. & sp. ed. From 1925-33, Pegler was an extremely high-paid spwr. for the Chicago Tribune. In 1933, he was sent to Washington, DC, to write politics & politicians. He developed an extremely bitterly-biting, (Pegler, continued) critical, ascerbic style of attack journalism. Became feared for his poisoned pen, or type-writer. In 1933, Pegler went nationally syndicated with his "Fair Eough" column for Scripps-Howard, within the Hearst family of papers. He targeted labor union bosses as a menace. In '44, went to NY Journal-American, with "As Pegler Sees It." Pegler became a 1930's & 40's version of Rush Limbaugh & Joe McCarthy. When the Political Right unleashed it's dogs of war, Pegler was the lead dog.(Pegler, continued) In 1949, Westbrook Pegler attacked Quentin Reynolds so bitterly, that Quentin sued him for libel & won. Louis Nizer was Reynold's Jewish attorney, who won for him $175,000. and earned the enmity of Pegler for Jews. But after that

San Francisco spwr.; SF Daily News, off. boy ('09-11),SF News police reporter, Love Advice Column "Cynthia Grey", ('11-15), sp.ed. ('15-42); Partner in Sacramento bowling alley. Specialized in boxing & baseball. Knew Dempsey, DiMaggio, O'Doul.World War I service('18); ML pitcher(20,21,28); managed the following minor league clubs: Terre Haute,Crookston,Louisville, Indianapolis, Davenport, New Orleans,St. Joseph, Rock Island, Lincoln. Coached Red Sox('44), Pirates('47-48,58-63).

St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star('16-?), St. Louis Republic, St. Louis Globe-Democrat, World War I('17-18), St. Louis Globe-Democrat spwr.('19-41, 43-early 50's) covered Cardinals & Browns,sp. ed.('41-43), (early 50's-60, copy desk work).

NY,Cle spwr; Started on ed. staffs Xenia Gazette & Columbus Dispatch(OH),Army with 37 Div(Jun.2,'17)., joined UP sp.ed. NY. Left UP to join Newspaper Enterprises Alliance in Cleveland. Got ill,left NEA. Dayton Daily News & papers in Chicago & Detroit.Milwaukee spwr.: Arrived Milwaukee as child. Milwaukee Journal reporter('11-55), BB writer'18-55. Office boy Mil. Journal Feb.,1911, cub reporter shortly afterwards. Covered BB & Boxing; 1st Mil. radio announ. '26. heart attack at home, ill 4 yrs.NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept.

NY sp.wr.; Boonville,MO HS, U. Miss.('17), WWI(army,France,'17-18); NY Times('20-25), NY Journal-American('25-58),Specialized in BB,horse racing,boxing; Supervised one of his favorite things, Kentucky Derby('49-58). d. lung cancer at St. Luke's Hosp.,NYDetroit spwr; Attended Randolph Macon College(Ashland,VA), WWI('17-18); Worked papers in Roanoke,VA, Key West,FL, Beaumont,TX. Moved Detroit('22), Detroit Free Press spwr('22-24,Jan), Detroit News(Jan.31,'24-63). Liked FB, Loved boxing,was expert.

Dayton, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago spwr.; Grad. Dayton U., Dayton News ('16), Dayton Herald ('17), Detroit News, only 3 months ('18), Cleveland Plain Dealer ('19-23), Cleveland News (23-29) , Chicago Consolidated Press sp. ed. ('29-54), (Powers, continued), Chicago Daily News, Chicago American, PR director of college Football's East-West Shrine Football Game('55-75, SF,CA) Returned Dayton, OH '75. Lived Biltmore Hotel. Specialized in football writing during the season, and golf.

Chicago sp. wr.; Chicago Record-Herald('?-17), WWI(Navy petty officer), ad business('18-23), Chicago Evening American('23-), Chicago Herald-Examiner, In '34 Jimmy was hit by a car & hospitalized for almost a yr. d. lung ailmentBoston sp.wr.; WWI; Dallas News(TX) reporter('21-22), Boston Post sp.wr. & general columnist('22-41), Boston Herald(March,1941-60). In Sept.'58, his cancerous larynx was removed, rendering him mute,ending his radio career. d. throat cancer

Cinc. sp. wr.: Louisville (KY) Courier-Journal state ed., Cincinnati Times-Star('23-58) sp. ed.('30-58). Retired when Scripps-Howard Co. bought Times-Star & formed the Post & Times-Star. He began his career with a weekly paper in Long Prairie,Minn.Brooklyn spwr.; Attended grammar sch. In Brooklyn; NY Evening Sun - printer's devil (June, 1911). He became a copy boy in '14, covered Wall St. ('16), Baseball starting '18 until he died. Covered the Dodgers all his career. Once commented dryly, "Over-confidence can cost the Dodgers sixth place."

Chicago spwr.: Conducted Wake of the News for Chicago Tribune fr. June 14, 1937 to his death in '55. He'd inherited this most prestigious, oldest, continuous of all sports columns fr. his predecessor, Harvey Woodruff. d. heart attack

Pittsburgh sports writer; Pittsburgh Gazette Times(2 weeks,'14), Pittsburgh Post('14-19), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times sp.ed.('19-23), Baltimore American sp.ed.('23-25), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('25-27), Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph('27-60).

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NY, Europe spwr; WWI navy for 1.5 yrs.; NY Daily News: movie critic,'22, spwr,'23-24, sp.ed., columnist, ass.managing ed.(24-36); war correspondent('44) for Cosmopolitan; After '36 Berlin Olympics, left Daily News for freelance fiction writing. (Gallico, continued) Bought home in South Devon,England('36), & began living overseas but didn't move abroad permanently until '50. Some of his books: Farewell to Sports('38), Lou Gehrig, Pride of the Yankees('42), The Golden People('65),

Chi. spwr; Chicago Examiner spwr, Chicago Herald-Examiner, Chicago Journal, Chicago American spwr & ed.('43-69), Chicago Today sp.ed.('69), Founder,pres. Amateur softball Assn..,1930-38; pres., Nat. Professional Basketball League, 1940-44.Chicago sports writer; Chicago Evening Journal('20-29), Chicago Daily News('29-?), Esquire Magazine sp. ed.; wrote Out of Bounds(1937), football stories from the 1930's. Wrote at least until 1947. Retired by '56. d. cardio-respiratory arrest

Detroit spr.; Pittsburgh U.; Allentown Record (1919-?) miscellaeous work; obituaries, city ed.. Reading Times (PA), reporter, cartoonist, Philadelphia Record (1924-28); Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts; Detroit Free Press sp. ed., sports columnist, BB writer, cartoonist (1928-45), Detroit Times boxing / horse racing writer (1945-60).

Brook., NY sports writer; Graduated Cornell U.('16-21), interrupted by WW1('18-19), Brooklyn Daily Eagle sp.writer('21-23), NY Times('23-68).Authored 8 sp. history books. Has received honors from many sports:BB,FB,tennis,rowing, & colleges,Universities

Milwaukee sp. ed.; sp. ed. of the Nowiny Polskie, daily Polish newspaper of Milwaukee,WI. He had covered the Milwaukee Brewers of the American Ass. for more than 20 yrs. & was a Polish sp. encyclopedia. Was expert on Polish athletes. Favorite:Al Simmons

Pittsburgh sports writer; World War I (1st class quartermaster); Pittsburgh Dispatch('20-23), Pittsburgh Gazette-Times('24-27), Cleveland Press('27-31), Pittsburgh Press('31-66,retired). Died in St. Clair Memorial Hosp. San Francisco spwr; Grad. Stanford law School ('21), San Francisco Chronicle sp. ed. (1934-65). d. after a lingering illness, was admitted to Presbyterian Hospital, and a series of abdominal operations failed to save him. Active in SF Press Club.Chicago sports writer; Crawfordsville Review city ed. ('16-18), South Bend Tribune('18-23), Washington DC Daily News sp.ed.('23-28), St. Louis Sporting News, St. Louis Star-Times, Chicago Journal('28-29), Chicago Daily News sp.ed('29-48), Boxing & BB

Det., Toledo,Cle. sports writer; El Paso Herald, Toledo Times('17-?), Toledo News-Bee, Toledo Blade, Cleveland News, Detroit Times(13 years), Flint Journal(7 years), NY Mirror, King Features, Hearst Sunday Features, Toledo Times('45-67,Apr.).

Phil. spwr.; Enlisted Aviation corps for WWI, discharged Dec.15,'18, without overseas service. Grad. U. of Wisconsin journalistic course('22). Buffalo Courier, Duluth News-Tribune, Superior Telegram, Port Huron Times Herald, Chicago American,(Peterman, continued) Milwaukee Wisconsin News, Phil. North Amer. Phil. Bulletin spwr./columnist ('24-38), Phil. Inquirer('38-54), Inquirer WWII correspondent & international corresp, founded Phil. Ins. Info. Corp., lecturer, Radio Ins. Q&A program.

(Peterman, continued) Mr. Peterman's reputation was based on his Phil. Inquirer days from '38-58. He wrote that America wasn't getting its value from the Marshal Plan. Covered UN, Nato, peace conferences & assorted world events.

Bost. spwr; outstanding trackman and 2nd baseman in his youth. Boston Traveler spwr.('25-'29), Boston Transcript spwr.('29-33), Boston American sp. ed. & columnist('33-?). WWII went overseas as correspondent for New England troops in Europe.

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(Newland, continued) Reported the rise of Joe DiMaggio and the founding of the East-West FB game. D. Knew he was ill for 6 months, heart attack in St. Francis Hospital, SF, bed-ridden to he passed, required hospital treatment for obscure blood infection & neck injury suffered in WWI. NY spwr; Wrote baseball 12 yrs. before TV show. NY Mail, World, Morning Telegraph, Daily News(column "Little Old New York", which he continued till his death; Gained TV immortality for his long-running Sunday night TV variety show, "The Ed Sullivan Show" (June 20,1948- June 6,1971); d. cancer

NY spwr.; Attended NYC public sch. And grad. Friends Seminary there. NY World artist, later spwr, (1921-22), Wrote sports from 1923-31 for NY Herald Tribune, NY Mirror, NY Evening World. Covered Yankees, Dodgers, and Giants. From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr. (Mann, continued) From '35-46, he lived on a 200-acre farm with his wife and 2 daughters/son. Contracted with pulp mags for 600,000 words/yr. Free lance writer, radio writer, broadcaster. From 1946-49, asst. to Pres. Brookly Dodgers. Assisted in Negro integration in organized BB, 1945 & ML BB, 1947. (Mann, continued) Asst. Pres. Branch rickey Continental L. '59-60, Wrote Jackie Robinson '50, BB Confidential '51, Branch rickey bio '57, Editor & collaborator: The Real McGraw (by Mrs. John McGraw), Off and runjning (by Bill Corum) 1959.

Chicago spwr.; Howard College ('21-24); Birmingham Age-Herald copy boy (1917-25), Tampa Tribune (FL) city ed. (1925-?), Chicago Times (1929-74) reporter 1929, sp. Columnist, sp. Ed. 1941; WWII, enlisted Navy, chief of Navy press in Wash.DC; Chicago Sun-Times man. ed., 1949-74. Lerner Newspapers man. ed. and later executive ed. Wrote several history books. Chicago sp.wr.; Milwaukee Journal reporter night police, Milwaukee Leader, Chicago Herald-Examiner sp. wr('27-32), Chicago Daily News(sp.wr.'32-43,sp.ed.43-72). Loved baseball, passionate about horse racing. Won Spink Award('75) putting him in BB H of F.

St. Louis spwr; St. Louis Star spwr.('23-51), Associate editor Sporting News('51-79). Gained attention after WWII by reports on Mexican League raids on major leagues. d. heart attack, buried, Resurrection Catholic Cemetery, St. Louis, MO

Chicago sports writer; Chicago Daily New('24-36), Wisconsin News(Milwaukee), Intntn News service(Chicago office), Chicago Times('36-47), Chicago Sun-Times('47-57). Left Sun-Times in '57 and became a real estate agent in Scottsdale. d. cancer

St. Louis sports writer; Atlantic City review, Camden Evening Courier(shore resort correspondent), Camden Evening Courier('25-26), Camden Morning Post,sp. dept.('26-?), new Camden Courier, St. Louis Sporting News('36-38), Phil. Record('39-45,Jan.).NY spwr.; NY Journal sp.rep. ('22), Brooklyn Daily Times ('23-29), NY World Telegram ('29-40), NY PM('40-48), NY Star sp.ed.('48), NY Morning Telegraph sp.ed.('48) , NY Collier sp.ed.('50-56), AS Barnes publishing, Yankees, Mets, authored BB's Best,1964

Wash, Baltimore spwr; His mother was Shinnecock Indian; Grew up Wash. DC, 5 blocks from Griffith stadium, Grad. Howard U., bachelor's in physical education('23). Devoted his early life to lobbying for integration of ML baseball & society.(Lacy, continued) Washington Tribune: part-time spwr., reporter('18-20,23-30), managing ed., spwr.,('30-34), sp.ed., columnist('34-39); Baltimore Afro-American spwr., columnist('39-40), sp.ed., columnist('43-, Chicago Defender ass. national ed.('40-43),(Lacy, continued) 1st black in the Baseball Writers Association('48), Taylor Spink Award(Baseball Hall of Fame, 1997), Personally knew many black stars(J.Louis,J.Owens,A.Ashe), but never shirked from criticizing them if he felt warranted. Mentor: father

NY sp. ed; International News Service(NY) sp. ed.('36-51), Camillo restaurant(NY) owner('51-57), 2 yrs. sp. PR., Lawton Carver's café(NY), assistant to John Denson,ed. of Herald Tribune, NY Journal-American kitchen ed.(under name Prudence Penny).

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Grad. Los Angesles Polytechnic HS, joined LA Times as cub reporter, became baseball writer, '24, started his "X-Ray" column in '34. also wrote FB, Boxing, Tennis, basketball. Became ass. sp. ed. in '26. d. malignancy in California Lutherean Hosp.Cle. spwr.; Miami Daily Tab ed. (FL), Daytona Beach New-Journal ed.(FL) (1927-29), press agt.-juvenile, touring Tab museum show,('29-30); Cleve.Press ass. sp.ed.('31-37), sp.ed, sp. columnist, & spwr.('37-58, death). Sp.ed. radio sta. WGAR, Cleve.,'37-39.

NY sp. ed.; NY World-Telegram('28), NY Sun; specialized in tennis,hockey. Had been President of United States Lawn Tennis & NY Hockey Writers Ass. Had been 6' athlete. Grad. fr.Syracuse University. WWII-Army captain,Stars&Stripes,cov.N.Afica,Sicily.Denver, Pittsburgh spwr.; In 1930, he was a reporter for Denver newspaper. Pittsburgh Press sports writer (1932- May, 1936) After spring training with the Pirates in 1936, he had to return to Denver, CO to regain his health, which suffered from the cold in Pittsburgh, PA.Chicago,NY spwr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times,Chicago American(Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Cleveland Indians exec., Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58-62),Comm.Off.('62-74);

NY sp.wr.; NY Times sp.wr.('26-42) & sports columnist('42-74). Authored 8 sports books. Authored numerous articles for sports magazines & publications. Won a Pulitzer prize in '56 for "outstanding commentary on the world of sports." d. heart attack

Brooklyn,NY; Began as NY World Telegram sports writer; grad HS('24), grad. U. of Penn. ('24-28), became Director of basketball of Madison Square Garden, brought college basketball to Madison Square Garden beginning Dec. 29, 1934.

Washington Daily News('43-47), Chicago Herald-American sp. wr. & feature wr.('47-?), Washington Post, Baltimore News American, Danbury(CT),wire ed.Waterbury Republican('67-69), Wrote sp. books, includ. bio of Walter Johnson for juveniles. d. lung cancerNY spwr.; Hudson Dispatch, NY American, NY Post (1934-72); Covered baseball, football, horse racing, hockey. Occasionally wrote a column. Wrote "The Amazing Mets" in '64, "Sandy Koufax" in '66. d. At Holy Name Hosp. In Teaneck, NJ. Had lived at 3041 Edwin Ave., Fort Lee, NJ.

St. Louis spwr.,wrestling promoter; Mov. US('11), St. Louis Star ('26-32), cov. Cardinals, etc.Worked for Tom Pax(wrestling promoter). First wrestling card: March, 1942, enlisted Army Air Force, '42, Found. Nat. Wrestling Alliance, d. internal bleeding(Muchnick) Founded Nat. Wrestiling Alliance, 1948, served as Pres. 25 yrs., '50-60, '63-77, Prom. last wrestling card, Jan.1, 1982, Considered Dean of Wrestling promoters, Formed St. Louis Wrestling Club, 1958,Bur: Memorial Park Cemetery , St. Louis, MOChicago, Louisville spwr.; Louisville Herald-Post sp.ed., Chicago Herald-Examiner spwr., Chicago Sun sp. copy desk. Left newspaper business late '40's, GM for some race tracks, including Lincoln Fields, Ascot Park, Latonia & Miles Park.

Milwaukee Sentinel('27-28),St. Louis Star sp. wr. & copy ed.('28-33), St. Louis Star-Times re-write man('33-36), Phil. Record sp. rep. & columnist(''36-45), NY Herald Tribune sp. columnist('45-67, Publishers-Hall Syndicate.('67-71), NY Times('71-82).

Nashville sports writer; Nashville Banner('29-87), reporter('29)(sp.ed.,'30-69)(sp.director, '69-87)(VP, '55-99). Mostly football & golf sports writer. Football Writers Ass. President('60-61), National sportscasters & sports writers Hall of Fame('88).

Stud. Boston U. & U. of Mass.;Boston Herald news staff('27-29, '29-47,reporter,baseball & political writer,rewrite man,ass. city ed., sp. copyreader; Boston correspondent of NY Times('47-70, sub. for regular correspondent'44-47). d. heart attack

Attend. Emory U. (Atlanta, GA), McGill U. (Canada); Intrntinl News Service (1920's), United Press Corr. (1930's), INS Daily columnist, UP Daily columnist, WWII, Army, McNaught Syndicate sp. columnist, picked up by 175 papers, (1940-?), (McLemore, cont.) Covered Linbergh kidnapping, Won Headliner award for his coverage in New London, TX, where 294 lives were lost in school explosion. His last few yrs. he did PR for Daytona Intrntl speedway. d. died on the beach of a heart attack

Boston sportswriter; Boston Sunday Advertiser(sportswriter), Boston Daily Record, Worcester(Mass.) Telegram, Associated Press(Boston) as sportswriter('36), World War II(lieutenant/Coast Artillery). Night editor(Associated Press,Boston) d. heart attack

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Wash.,Balt.,NY spwr.; Atlanta constitution, Richmond Times-=dispatch, NY Telgraph, Washington Post news staff ('36-?), He covered sports for the them during WWII. Washington Times-Hearald, Baltimore News-American ('54-?), retired early 70's.

Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Pittsburgh Press(sp.wr.,'30-66, sp.ed.,'66-69,Mar.31).Covered Pittsburgh Pirates since '38.Sporting News correspondent for much of that time. Pres. BBWAA('59),WWII(captain,S.Pacific,3yrs).Helped Children's Hosp. fund-raising. d. cancer

NY spwr; NYU; NYU law Sch. J.D.; NY Globe, NY Evening World, NY Associated Press. NY Evening Post-Yachting,basketball wr. & night sp. ed.; Began wr. BB('33). NY Times('39-69). As ass.foreign ed.; Columbia U.jouralism prof.('50's-60's).

NY spwr; Grad.CCNY,NY Post spwr('27) columnist('44) left Post in '45 to freelance magazine articles.Became creative consultant to Hill & Knowlton,Inc. Ed. Sports Extra,coll. of classic newsp. stories by famous spwr.Wrote Sexually Active Man Past 40('68).

NY spwr., author; Attend. Fordham U., NY Telegram('30-31),NY World-Telegram('31-50), NY World Telegram & Sun(Jan.4,'50-66), NY World Journal Tribune('66-67), Ridgewood chain, left sports beat.Started as ass. man.ed., then man.ed. then exec. ed.

(King, continued) Early he was a yachting expert, covering several America cup races. Associated with NY Giants, BB & FB. Covered BB NY Giants for over 2 decades. Helped organize the NY professional FB Writers Ass. in '67. Nat. FB H of F.

NYC Sp.wr.;NY Daily News('29-30),NY World-Telegram columnist('30-34),International News Service features('35-36),NY American('36-39),PM correspondent('41-42),Stars & Stripes('42-45),NY Post sp.wr.('45-59,72-73),NY Journal-American('59-67),Hearst('67-72)

Boston spwr.; grad. Boston U. B.S. (1932); Boston Post(1930-52), Boston Herald-Traveler columnist '64-68, U.S. Navy, 2.5 yrs. (became lieutenant), Authored over 50 books, incl. books on Piersall, Yaz, Cousy, F.Howard. d. cerebral hemorrhageDayton,OH sp. wr.; Dayton Daily News sp. ed. & columnist('28-86);Also broadcaster & author.Inducted into BB Hall of Fame(Ford Frick Award,'83),First sp. wr. elected to BB H. of F. who didn't write for ML BB city. Nat. SpWR & SPCster H of F('84). d. stroke

Washington, NY spwr.; New York Journal-American journalist, Washington Times-Herald general reporter & sp. wr.(?-54), Washington Post reporter,sp.wr., & columnist('54-77), wrote column for Sporting News,selection comm.BB Hall of Fame.Author:Sports WriterBoston spwr.; Boston Globe spwr.('26-66),started as nite copy boy. Enlisted WWII, Bronze Star, J.Piersal's & Ted William's ghost-writer, secretary-treasurer of BWAA, since 1958, only 5' 4.5, d. had been hospitalized since heart attack April 11, 1966.

St. Louis sp. announcer; St. Louis KWK radio sp. announcer for St. Louis Browns baseball team. Later switched to KWK-TV & KMOX-TV. Before he arrived in St. Louis, he worked for radio stations in Shreveport,LA, Des Moines,IA, Topeka,KS.

Columbus Citizen (1940-43, Mar.1) United Press bureau, sp. ed. Chicago office (Mar.1, 1942-46), Detroit Free Press spwr. (1947- 59, Jan.); covered Michigan sports('46-57), respected college football analyst; covered '47 &'48 national college football champions; Army induct., 11-15-43).

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Southwestern regional sp. ed. for UPI for more than 20 yrs.; Joined news service in '41 after serving as sp. ed.of 2 papers in Tyler,TX. With UPI, he handled sports in 9 state area. In 1971, he transferred to general news dept. for southwest area.

(Grimsley, continued) He covered most major events in boxing, baseball, football, horse racing. From '77-84, wrote daily nationally syndicated sp. column, "Grimsley's Sports World". Contributed over 200 articles to magazines. Elected Spwr of Yr. 4 times.

Cincinnati sp. wr., BB author; Reds PR writer('38-39,43-45), Gruen Watch Co(Cinc.,OH,40-42), WSAI(Cincinnati radio sta,sp. brdcaster,('48-50); KYW(Phil. radio sta. brdcaster,('51-53); Cincinnati Times-Star & Cincinnati Enquirer(45-58)

Pittsburgh sp.wr.; Attend Coe College ('40), Army ('42-46). Cedar Rapids Gazette reporter (1940-47), Pittsburgh Press (spwr. '47-61, sp. columnist, '63-69, sp.ed., '69-72, gen. col., '72--), Evansville Sunday Courier & Press sp.ed. (Ind.) (1961-63),

NY spwr.; NY Sun (1935-50) covered Brooklyn Dodgers, Conducted a column where he called himself "The Old Scout". NY Rangers Publicity director (1956-65), ABC PR staff. d. North Shore Hosp., Manhasset, L.I., NY., after heart surgery.Philadelphia spwr.; Philadelphia Phillies beat writer from 1946 until 1972, retired from the Inquirer in 1979 and was a member of the Hall of Fame's Veterans Committee from 1979 until 2000. He served as chairman of Major League Baseball's Scoring

(Lewis, continued) In 1981, Lewis was awarded the J.G. Taylor Spink Award, which gained him admission to the writers' wing of the Baseball Hall of Fame. He graduated in 1940 from Haverford College, where he played on the football and baseball teams.(Lewis, continued) He was drafted the following year and achieved the rank of Air Force captain by the end of the Second World War. Lewis came out of retirement in 1980 to assist with the Inquirer's coverage of the Phillies' World Series triumph,

Cleveland spwr.; Grad. Western reserve U. BA. (1938), HS chemistry & math teacher (& ahtletic coach) in Euclid, OH, 1938-48: Cleveland News sp. reporter & columnist,'1948-60, Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist, '60-84, sp.ed., '64-84.

(Lebovitz, cont.) Sporting News, columnist, '70-92. Gannett Syndicate, '79-82. Dir. Cleve. Jewish News, '71-89;baseball umpire, '37-50, FB ofcl., '4071, basketball ofcl., '4060; Sporting News Cleve. corr., '50-64, FB ofcl., '40-71.

Atlanta sp. ed.; Lumberton Voice ed.('38-39),High Point Enterprise wire service & sp. ed.('39-40),Charlotte News(state ed.,'40-42, sp.ed.,46-50),Atlanta Constitution sp.ed.('50-57),Atlanta Journal & Sunday Journal-Constitution('57-pres.),Sp.News columnist

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Boston spwr.; Began with Boston Globe as copy boy in 1936, after grad. HS. Began covering sports in '40, when he reported his 1st ML game. After WWII army service, covered both ML teams. Still covered Red Sox by '62, when promoted to ass. Sp. Ed.

Los Angeles sp.wr.; Trinity College(Hartford,CT) BA('41), Moved Hollywood('44). Los Angeles Examiner('44-48). Wrote for Time Magazine('48-61).Won National Sportswriter of the Year 4 times('64, '66, '77, '79). d. cardiac arrest(Murray, continued), Helped found Sports Illustrated('53), Doctor of Literature('81), Pepperdine U. Doctor of Laws("87), BB's Hall of Fame Spink Award('88), Pulitzer Prize('90), Buried: Holy Cross Cemetery & Mausoleum, Culver City, CA

Dayton; Sp. ed. of Dayton(OH)Journal,Herald Journal (Dayton,OH), Dayton(OH)DailyNews. Wrote:The Cincinnati Reds, a pictorial history of professional baseball's oldest team(1976), Men of the Machine(1977). & several other sports books. Spink Award('92).

BB author: Main claim to fame< his superb book, The Glory of Their Times. He took the title from the passage in Biblical Ecclesiasticus: "All thes were honord in their generations and were the glory of their times." Grad. Indiana U. , Doctorate from Wisconsin. Also wrote text for "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", with Mark Rucker (1988). After Ty Cob died in '66, Laurence traveled 75,000 around the country with a reel-to-reel tape recorder, and interviewed 22 ballplayers from Ty's era. He made only

about $35,000 profit from around 360,000 book sales, due to his sharing his royalties with those players he interviewed. He turned the original tapes over to the BB Hall of Fame. They are now available in excerpt form in CD or tape cassette format.Professor of Finace and Economics at NYC for 30 yrs. "I don't like the players, I don't like the umpires, I don't like the owners, but I love the game." Interested in BB since 1931. d. at his Manhattan apt., after a series of strokes. Bronxville Review-Press ad. manager('48-49), Westchester Herald ad. manager('49), Collier's Encyclopedia ass. ed.('50-54), Sports Illustrated-staff writer('54-55), ass.ed.('550?), senior ed.(?-'85); authored 8 baseball books, numerous BB & sports articles

Born Moscow, moved US 1928, NY Herald sp. wr.('48-54), NY Post sp.wr.('54-63), NY Times sp.wr.('63-73), NY Times correspondent in Palo Alto,CA('73-78), Peninsula Times-Tribune sp. ed.(Palo Alto,CA, '79-93). Spink Award (BB, Hall of Fame, '93)(Koppett, continued) Leonard was vastly interested in history, opera, classical music, Marx Bros. movies. He thought expansion was a disaster for baseball. He was also vastly interested in a statistical analysis approach to baseball.

Chicago New World Weekly, sp. columnist,('47-48), Columbian Weekly general columnist('48-56), Chicago Daily News beat writer, covered & traveled with both the Cubs & White Sox('57-65), Baseball Digest ass. ed.('69-present). Authored Heartbreakers('01),NY sports writer; Raised in Hudson Falls in Adirondacks, NY, and Upper Darby, PA. Left NYU in jr. yr. to enlist in Army Air Forces. Became pilot / flight instructor. Returned college, 1945 Received bachelor's degree economics, 1946, and yr. later earned master's degree from Graduate Sch. Journalism at Columbia University. reporter Newark Evening News, 1947. Months later, moved radio station WINS ( New York) as news and sp. Writer. Soon became director news and special events. In 1950 became copy ed. on nat. news desk of NY Times. Assistant to nat. news ed., head of the city copy desk and ass. city ed. Became a sportswriter in 1964. NY Times spwr. '64-2001. Voted Taylor Spink Award in 1995, (BB H of F). D. University Hospital in Stony Brook, N.Y of cancer. His Books: My Luke & I (1976), bio of Gehrig with his wife Eleanor. Casey & Mr. McGraw (1989). The Days of Mr. McGraw (1969). Others on Mets, Mantle, Ford, DiMaggio, World Series, Tug McGraw. He liked writing about NY stuff.Tacoma, NY spwr.: Tacoma Nes Tribune, Tacoma Times, Oregonian (Portland), Spokane Daily Chronicle, all before 1948. NYC Newspaper Enterprise Ass., Ass. Sp. Ed. (1950-54); Wrote 2 books on Ty Cobb. One of them was The Tiger Wore Spikes (juvenile)1956, Ty Cobb, 1975.

(McCallum, continued) Attended Washington State U. '42-43, '45-47, & NYU, 1943, A.S. Barnes & Co., Inc., NYC, Dir. Of Premium Bk. Div., 1954-58; lecturer for Antrim Bureau., Phil., PA & Nat. Sch. Assemblies, LA, CA, 1963-71, full-time writer, 1971-. Member of sports committee. US Army, 1943-45.

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Kansas City sp.wr.;Attended Marquette University;Tulsa World, Kansas City Star('48-92).Covered the Kansas City Blues baseball team in the AA league from '51, When the Phil. Athletics moved from Phil. to Kansas City,MO in '55, started covering them until(McGuff, continued), they left in '68. He became sp.ed in '66 and vice-president & editor from '86 until he retired in '92. He was former President of the BWAA and was voted outstanding Missouri sp.wr. 6 times, member of Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

NY & Detroit spwr; AP copyboy, NYC ('45-51), NY spwr.('51-53), AP sp. ed., Det.,('53-56), Detroit Times spwr.('56-60), Detroit Free Press spwr.('60-65) sp.ed. & columnist('66-78), Detroit News sp.ed. & columnist (1978-2004, death); Sporting News correspondent('65-85). Won Spink Award in 2002. (Falls, continued) Mr. Falls covered 50 World Series, 20 Kentucky Derbys, 15 Super Bowls, 20 Masters and United States Open golf tournaments, 25 Indianapolis 500's, and assorted events such as Rose Bowls, Stanley Cup finals, and NBA finals.

Sp. wr.; Tulas World(before & after WWII), Fort Worth Star-Telegram,Daily Oklahoman(OK. City), San Diego Union('50-80), also free-lanced for New York Times Magazine, New Yorker, Newsweek, and others. d. 3 month fight against cancer.

(McCoy, cont.) Wrote gutsy, courageous stories on Cincy owner, Marge Schott, got himself exiled from her media room 4 times. Didn't deter his typewriter. Kept writing them straight. Won Taylor Spink Award in 2002, Baseball's Sportswriters Hall of Fame.

Voice of Detroit Tigers('33-51); Detroit Tigers OF('14-29),Reds OF('30,32)Ty Cobb made him hitter;Just average 1st 7 seasons.Cobb tutored him,reworked his stance & Heilmann became terror. He remained Cobb's friend. d. lung cancer.

Voice of Senators('34-56);Began Senators class A, Chattanooga Lookouts,Cal Griffith brought him to Washington('34),Called action on WJSV,WTOP, Redskins. Dubbed DiMaggio Yankee Clipper.Called for Yankees('39).Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame -'99).

Voice of White Sox,Cubs; White Sox('28-41, 46-70), Chicago Cubs('28-41), Oakland Athletics('71). Ford Frick Award('79, Hall of Fame). did 1st on-field interview(Connie Mack,1931). Called 12 WS, 9 All-Star games. Voted twice by Sp. News Announcer of Yr.Spanish Voice of Yankees (?-72); Began as writer with Staten Island Advance (NY), AP, 7 yrs.,Havas (French wire service), Agency France-Press (French News Service), NBC Gillette Cavalcade of Sports Spanish announcer ('37-70), 42 WS. Ford Frick Award (H of F, 1985).

Voice of Cleveland Indians('47-67),Seattle Pilots('69); U. of Virginia(chemistry),WWII(Army Air Corps pilot), Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Browns(50's), Baltimore Colts, Ohio St. FB games. d. Alzheimer's disease, last 2 yrs. in special care home, strokeVoice of Washington Senators, Yankees, Giants; Washington Senators announcer('38-45), New York Yankees announcer('46-48), New York Giants('49-57, SF, '58-70). Ford Frick Award('80, Hall of Fame). U. Kentucky law degree.Voice of Yanks('38-64); Began broadcasting as undergraduate at U. of Alabama, called many WS, Long time voice of This Week in Baseball, Highly articulate, extremely knowledgeable, Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'78). El Cemetery, Stanford, CTVoice of Cards('48); Attended Akron U., broadcast sports in Akron, Toledo, Salt Lake City. In Toledo, did the Mud Hens', in St. Louis did St. Louis Cardinals. Had been a basketball & FB official & fight referee. In '52, refereed bouts at Helsinki Oly.

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Sportscaster; Grad.Texas Christian U.;Announced Phil. A's games('38-54)&Phillies games('39-49,55-75).Ford Frick Award('90),Broadcaster Pioneers of Phil.'s Hall of Fame('93). Also called college & pro football,college & pro basketball, hockey. d. strokeBaseball announcer; Cubs (1949, teamed with Rogers Hornsby), Phillies (1950-51, teamed with Gene Kelly), Senators, Announced LA Lakers , LA Angels, LA Rams, Southern Cal FB & basketball, UCLA basketball, Detroit Lions, NFL Pro Bowls.

Voice of the Los Angeles Lakers(Dec.16,'61-Jun.,12,02; set a record similar to Lou Gehrig & Cal Ripken in announcing 3,317 consecutive basketball games for the Los Angeles Lakers(Nov.21,'65 - Jun. 12, '02), d. from head injuries from a fall at his home.(Hearn, continued), Earned awards galore; '91 Basketball Hall of Fame, lifetime achievement Victor Award, 3 Golden Mikes, 2 Nat. Sportscaster of the Year, 7 Cal. Sportscaster of the Year, 1st ever Cable Ace, '91 Cedars-Sinai Journalist of Year,(Hearn, continued),Earned '65 Emmy for Excellence in Basketball coverage & Academy of Television Arts & Sciences 50th Anniversary Award;Also broadcast NCAA & NFL football, UNLV basketball, PGA golf,1st Ali-Frazier,Rose Bowl,Pro tennis, Attend. Bradley U.

Voice of Mets('61-78); NY Giants announcer('79-81), Grad. U. of Tennesse(journalism), Columbia,TN reporter, WWII(9th infantry div.), Notre Dame FB(13 yrs.), 25 Cotton Bowls, NFL(20 yrs.),Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'88),Nat. Sp.Wr & Sp. Ann. H. of F.,'79).

Voice of Red Sox; Began in '44 Cheyenne,Wyoming doing minor league baseball(Koma, OK).Big break came '49 w/ Mel Allen / Yankees.Red Sox announcer('50-66). NBC Game of the week('66-76). 13 WS, 16 all-star games, 1976 Montreal Olympics, Super Bowls.Boston, Wash, Balt, sportscaster; d. several weeks after open heart surgery. Broadcast many sports, incl. BB, FB & Basketball. Member of Red Sox Broadcasting team until spring of '72. Had been play-by-play man for Senators, Colts & Balt. Bullets.

Voice of Orioles; Family moved to east section of Reading('27), Began Reading,PA('39), Phillies,Athletics announcer('47-48), Baltimore Orioles Intern' league announcer('49), Baltimore Orioles' announcer('54-56, 62-87,91-occasional), Senators('57-61);

Voice of Red Sox;Duke U.;WW2(marines);Began calling minor league BB in W.Vir.('56), Boston Patriots('65), Began calling Red Sox games('61) with Curt Gowdy & stayed until his '92 retirement. Called '75 WS d. heart attack at Raleigh,NC airport Ford Frick Award(BB H of F,'87); Started calling Cardinals' games on radio in 1954, first teaming with Harry Carey till '70, and from 72-00 with former Cardinal's 3rd basemen, Mike Shannon. Called Super Bowls('70,78-84), World Series, pro bowling, etc.

Voice of Mets('62-03, radio & TV, 1982- radio); Muskogee Reds(OK), Boston Red Sox announcer('54-59), Baltimore Orioles announcer('60-61), Ford Frick Award('94, Hall of Fame), Had distinctive mid-western baritone voice. D. Hospice in W. Palm Beach, FL, lung cancer.Voice of Cardinals; St. Louis Cardinals announcer('55-64), Yankees announcer('65-67), California Angels announcer('90), presently announces for Arizona Diamondbacks. Ford Frick Award(BB H of F, '91), NBC(WS,all-star games,Game of Week,Today Show,'62-73).

Radio Voice of Florida Marlins('93-present); Radio Salas,Havana,Cuba('45), Pro Voice of BB in Puerto Rico & Venezuela for over 30 yrs. Did over 40 Caribbean World Series since '49. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame,2001). Left Cuba('62) because of Castro.

(Ramirez, cont.),For 3 decades,Rafael shared the mike with Buck Canal on Gillette Cavalcade of Sports('50-80's),broadcast over largest network of Hispanic radio stations ever assembled. Has done dozens of WS & all-star games to throughout Latin America.Voice of Astros, Braves; Grad. U. of Iowa(radio speech), Well-traveled ML announcer.Had announced for: St. Louis Browns('53), Cardinals('54), Cubs('56-57, 80-84), White Sox('62-65), Braves('66-75), Pirates('76-79), Astros('85-03).Smooth,knowlegable

FB telecaster; Grad. Louisiana State U., Worked for stations in Louisiana, San Francisco-Oakland. Returned Texas('60). Had done minor league BB games & Houston Oiler games. Sp. Dir. of KPRC-TV in Houston,did NFL games since '68. Worked on 2 Super Bowls.

Spanish Voice of Dodgers('59-03);Attended U. of Quito,Ecuador(Engineering,Jouralism,letters,philosophy,broadcasting), Moved Cal.('55),Sports director(KWKW), Before the station sent him on road,he re-broadcast games to Latino audiences by re-creating games

Voice of Phillies('71-97; Grad. U. of Iowa('59)(Bachelor Arts-Speech, Radio, TV), Army('59-61), sp. dir.(KGU-'61-64),Astro's announcer(65-70),Also called Big 5 basketball & Notre Dame football. Ford Frick Award(Hall of Fame, '02).

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Voice of Orioles,Giants; A's('74),Rangers('78-79),Red Sox('80-82),Orioles('81-96), Giants('97-pres.), ESPN's Sunday Night BB announc.('90-pres.). Authored:Confessions of a Baseball Purist(2000). Ultra-smooth imperturbable tone, but way too much a homer. (Miller, cont.),Jon might be most professional announcer ever to work a baseball mike. Never loses control. Never got lost in anecdotes & neglected ball-strike count. Silky-smooth, informed, detailed delivery. A must for Ford Frick Award. Why not now?

Voice of Senators);Grad. Duke; radio('39), moved TV('46), Washington Senators('47-60),MUT('50), Minnesota Twins('61), NBC('62-64,G.of Week), ABC('65), MUT('56), NBC('58,61-62). Has done most sports,D.Larsen's Perf.g('56);Ford Frick Award('95,H of F).(Wolff, continued), had nightly TV, radio sports show, syndicated his baseball interview shows to other big-league cities, wrote a syndicated baseball column, led the Knothole Gang. WS('56, 58,61).Moved NYC('66),Madison Square Garden('54-89).

Vilest & most hated owner of BB team ever,White Sox('01-31).Caused 1919 "Black Sox" crises. Paid his players a third of what other vile cheap owners paid comparable players.He,Landis, Ban Johnson pollute BB's Hall of Fame,MUST be booted out !

(Comiskey,continued),THE most despicable & viscous abuser of BB's heinous"reserve clause", he paid Joe Jackson $6,000/yr. from '15-19, when Cobb,Collins,Speaker were drawing $15,000-20,000/yr.All his players were similarly abused by this horrific villain.(Comiskey,continued), In 1919 Comiskey promised his star pitcher, Eddie Cicotte a $10,000. bonus if he won 30 games, and after Cicotte had won 29 games, Comiskey ordered manager Kid Gleason to bench him 2 weeks before season ended. Cicotte then agreed(Comiskey,contiuned), to throw his Series games after local gamblers paid him $10,000. upfront. Clean Sox: Joe Jackson, Collins, Schalk, Buck Weaver, Kerr. Jackson, Weaver played their hearts out, railroaded by Landis & Comiskey. BB owns them debt!!!Dodgers owner(1898-1925);Bought small amount of stock((1890), Secretary ball club(1896), elected Pres. ball club even though minor stockholder(1898), Originally owned 10% of Baltimore BB franchise d. suffered heart dis. several yrs. d. at Waldorf-Astoria

Cubs owner('21-32); minority stockholder in Cubs('16).By '21, sole owner. Made his fortune selling his Wrigley gum. Turned over gum business to son Phillip in'23, who also inherit. Cubs upon his Dad's death in '32. d. heart ailment,buried Catalina Is.

Red Sox owner('13-'16,Nov.); Real estate tycoon; owner of Hotel Granada,Lafayette St. & Rockaway Place,Brooklyn,NY & Garden City Hotel,Garden City,LI,NY. d. suicide, jumped from 9th floor of his Granada Hotel in Brooklyn. Squeezed through 15" window.(Lannin, continued) 9th of 10 kids, left Quebec area, due to economics, in 1880's, started as bellhop Adams Hotel, then doorman, then management. Invested in coffee futures/real estate, loved BB/ checkers. June 26, 2004, Canadian BB Hall of Fame induction.Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis

Yankee owner('15-39); Used mortgage on Fenway Pk to coerce Frazee to "give" his stars away & launch 1st NY dynasty using re-cycled Sox stars, incl.E.Scott,J.Dugan,B.Ruth,H.Pennock,C.Mays,J.Bush,S.Jones,W.Schang,W.Hoyt,E.Shore,D.Lewis,S.O'Neil, Ed Barrow.Ruppert was best owner in BB. Proves good people make terrible mistakes."Rape of Red Sox" is worst scandal in BB, after racism & the reserve clause. Where was Landis?Rejecting pleas from Buck Weaver. d. phlebitis, buried Kensico Cemetery, Westchester, CT.(Ruppert,continued),Died at his 5th Ave. apt. in Manhattan,NY. Was a devout Roman Catholic, confirmed bachelor. At his death, his worth was estimated at between $40-50m, & he gave a third of it to his former actress friend Helen Winthrope Weyant.

Co-Owner NY Yankees;w/Ruppert,bought team for $480,000. fr. Frank Farrell & William S. Devery in '15;Was VP. A civil engineer,contractor & agriculturist,he supervised much of construction of Yankee Stad, which cost about $3m.Sold his interest to(Huston)Ruppert(June,'23) for $1,250,000. Often at odds with Ban Johnson.Got 7 injunctions against him preventing Johnson from suspending Carl Mays. In '37, offered $1.7m for Dodgers, as head of syndicate. Intended to install night lights. Offer refused.

St. Louis Browns owner & Pres.('03-15), His capital brought the franchise from Milwaukee to St. Louis. Bought club for $35K., sold it to Phil Dec. Ball for $424K. At his park, he insisted on decency, cleanliness, and courtesy to the public. (Hedges, cont.) He kept his grandstand meticulously clean, didn't allow rowdies, the saloon bar was eliminated from the park. Built modern grandstand. d. Carcinoma of left lung, at Barnes Hosp, St. Louis, MO, buried in Cincinnati, OH on Apr. 25, 1932Boston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,1912--1916,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Mrs. Huston married the Colonel on Feb. 27,1890 at Hancock County,OH. They both are buried at Frederica Cemetery, St. Simons Island,GA. The Colonel died at Butler Island Plantation,McIntosh county,Brunswick,GA. Children:Bernice,Frances,Arthur.Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston & Philadelphia teams. Built wealth as a coal dealer. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans club

Detroit Tigers owner('08-35); Became half-owner('07), Started as a bookkeeper/cashier in detroit state insurance agency. Later, entered law office of his brother, Thomas J. Navain, and took law classes. Admitted to Mich. state bar. In '03, asked to(Navin, continued) help run Detroit club for owner, S. F. Angus. He purchased $5,000. worth of stock in club, when Bill Yawkey bought team. Navin became half-owner in '07, and full owner in '08. Ty Cobb, Detroit's great star, made Navin & club wealthy.Inherited Pirates from husband,Barney Dreyfuss,upon his death, Feb. 5,1932, and sold team to group(Aug.8,'46) headed by Frank McKinney of Indianapolis includ. Bing Crosby, who was made VP, for an estimated $2.75 million. m. Dreyfuss(Oct.16,1894).Cubs owner('16-19);Chicago chain restauranter,own. Chicago Whales,Federal League BB team('14-15), built Wrigley Field for them.When Fed L. folded,bought Cubs from Charles M. Murphy.Wrigley, Jr. got controlling interest('19) d. stroke,Drake Hotel,Chicago

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Detroit Tigers owner(03-07); lumber & mining interests made him wealthy; bought half-interest in Detroit BB franchise from Angus for $35,000 in '03. On Jan.22,'04, bought Angus' other half for $25,000., becoming sole owner. Made Ed Barrow his manager.

Detroit Tigers owner('35-52), bought 25% of Tigers('20), bought another 25%('27), bought rest of team, when Frank Navin died('35). Made his fortune in Detroit's auto industry. Took no money out of his team, ploughing all profits back, plus own money.

(Fuchs, continued), Formerly a wealthy NYC attorney, he paid $550,000. for his team, and was $300,000. in debt when he sold the team. Although not required to legally, he later paid off the debts. Had been a NYC magistrate('15-18). Grad. NYU law school.Red Sox owner(Nov.,'16-23,Aug.1);Bought team fr. Joseph J. Lannin, sold to synd. put headed by Bob Quinn, who was financially backed by Palmer Winslow, glass tycoon from Indiana, who suddenly died. d. Bright's disease, Kensice Cemetery, Valhalla,NY White Sox owner('31-39),got team when father died('31),rebuilt team to respectability.Appointed VP & treasurer('10),2 yrs. later contracted scarlet fever, ill rest of life.Weighed 380 lbs.,started farm system, install. nt. Lts. d. heart disease,pneumonia

White Sox part-owner; had been associated with Bill Veeck in his operation of the Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns & White Sox. Had made his money as Pres. of A.C. Allyn & Co., Chicago investment concern. d. Presbyterian-St. Luke's Hosp.

White Sox owner(March 4,'41-56,death); Married John Louis Comiskey('13) when she was only 20 yrs old, son of Charles A. Comiskey, founder of the White Sox, and the only woman to head a team in the history of the AL. m. Paul John Plato d. heart attackSt. Louis Browns owner('36-45);Friday,Aug.10,'45,Richard Muckerman buys out Barnes interests in Browns,giving him 50%. Barnes began finance co. at Springfield,Il('17),10 yrs. later present co. was incor.,moved St. Louis,IL d..complications after operation

Chicago Cubs owner('32-77);Inherited Wrigley gum business('23) & Cubs team('32) from father;refused to install lights at his ballpark,only park without night gamesAvoided limelight. .Incredibly honest,generous. Loved baseball with all his heart.

Pirates Owner('46-85,Pres.,'51-69);part of 4man syndicate('46)purchasing team.In '51 bought 70% of club,hired Branch Rickey.Lost around $2m but never lost faith & heart.Helped formulate '57 player's pension.Sold majority interest('85) in Pirates.

Brooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness

San Diego Padres' owner('74-83), Pres.('77-80). Bought the Padres in '74 for $10 million. Gave up operating control of Padres in Aug.,'79. Had made his fortune as founder of McDonald Corporation, fast food chain. d. heart failure

Giants owner('36-76);At the age of 33, he inherited team from his father Charles upon his death Jan.7,'36. Had become club executive('29). Plucked Dodger manager, Leo Durocher, from cross-town rivals in mid-season '48. Bad attendance('56-57), plus losing

Dodger owner('50-79),Dodger lawyer('43-50),deprived Brooklyn fans of their beloved team when he moved the Dodgers to LA('58). LA's hero was Brooklyn's arch super-criminal. By '50, owned majority of stock,after forcing Branch Rickey to sell him his shares.

Red Sox owner('76-92), Started out as fashion model and sales clerk at Jay Thorpe(exclusive women's clothes shop(NYC),widow of long-time Red Sox owner,Tom Yawkey, who she married in Dec., '44, inherited team, upon his death('76),as majority owner('77-88).

Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins owner(55-84), Inherited team fr. Dad,Clark Griffith on his death('55). Transf. Senators from long-time home,Wash.DC to Minneapolis('61).Sold Twins(Carl Pohlad-$36 million,'84).Son,Clark tried to buy'em back,$120m,no go.NY ; Yankees owner('48-66); In 1945, he, along with Del Webb and Larry MacPhail bought the Yankees. He served as club president from '48-66. Yanks won 15 pennants & 10 World Series during that 22 yr. period. Buried: Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx,NY

White Sox owner('70-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackExecutive in Yankee farm system('45-48),Dir. of Personnel('48-58),Baltimore Orioles GM('58-66,Oct), Yankee GM(Oct.,'66-73), AL Pres.('73-84); Since 1984 has represented owners interests against the Players Union. Reputed to be fair man & negotiator.

White Sox owner & Pres.('57-59);Comiskey had a lot in common with Prince Charles of England. In both cases,their mothers held the reins of power & became so comfortable with it that they couldn't let go the reins to their sons,who got old waiting.San Diego Padres owner(Jan.14, 1984-90) Married Ray Kroc in 1969. They moved from Chicago to San Diego when he bought Padres in '74. He died Jan.14, '84, she was active in managing team until she sold it in '90. d. brain cancer(Kroc, continued) Ray Kroc had been the owner and founder of McDonald Corporation, the fast food burger chain. Mrs. Kroc was also a philanthropist. In 1998, she gave $100m to Salvation Army, $25m to San Diego U., $19m to Notre Dame(80's), others.

Cinc. Reds owner(1985-99,Apr.20); Continually embarrassed ML BB because she just couldn't grasp how her racial & ethnic beliefs & remarks could offend & infuriate so many people.ML BB forced her to sell her controlling interest in Reds. d. Cinc. hosp.(Schott, continued) Bought her team, like Joan Payson, as opposed to other female owners who inherited theirs from their husbands, Joan Kroc & Jean Yawkey, Ida Shibe, Florence Dreyfuss, Edith Pross, Grace Comiskey. Gave generously to charities.

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Seattle Mariners owner(Jan.,'81-89);cheap son of a bitch had no place as a big-league owner.Should have stuck to real estate & airlines rather than ruin a good sports franchise. Just another of the many lousy ego-driven "outsider" owners in history.

Red Sox Pres.('01-02),Cleveland Indians owner('05-16), instrumental in launching AL('01), he owned Cleveland team & put up the money to start the Boston, Chicago & Philadelphia teams. Inherited wealth from father in coal dealing. Built Cleveland Park. Also owned New Orleans club. d. after lingering illness. buried:Lakeview,Cemetary,Cleveland,OHWhite Sox owner('69-75), succeeding brother Arthur, as president of White Sox('70). Had been VP of team. Sold to group headed by Bill Veeck. Retained 20% interest in franchise. Pres. of Chicago Mustangs, pro soccer team for 2 yrs. d. heart attackBoston Braves owner & Pres.(Dec.13,'12-16,Jan.8), Sold team on Jan.8,1916 to Percy Haughton & his associate for $500,000.Had bought team in '13 for $187,000.Started out as a cop, started his own contracting & trucking co. d. cerebral hemorrhage Cincinnati spwr.; Cincinnati Times-Star (?-1904) John Brush's secretary of NY Giants('05), Cubs owner('06-13); Voted out of NL for accusing umpires of corruption. d. at his home, had been ill since June, when he suffered a stroke of apolexy.Phil. Phillies owner & Pres.('13-30); Sec. to NYC controller Bird S. Coler(Jan.1,1898-02), Worked on Wall St.('02-05), Appointed Mun. Civil Service commissioner('05-08,Dec.31), Brooklyn,Queens Police Commissioner(Jan.1,'08-10,Dec.20). d. heart attack

Along with William F. Devery, owned the NY Highlanders (Yankees) from 1903-1915. They built 1st Yankee ballpark at $300K. Their holding were sold in 1915 to the Ruppert/Huston interests for $460K. d. At the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, of heart disease, following an attact of bronchitis

Brooklyn,NY spwr.; Brooklyn Times columnist / ass. sp. ed.: Brooklyn Times-Union; Brooklyn Eagle sp. ed. (1937-41), His column Sportopics. After the Eagle, he served on the sports staffs of NY Times, NY Daily Mirror, and NY Journal-American. d. Methodist Hospital, Brrooklyn, after a month's illness

ML pitcher, 1871-78; Boston (1871-75), Chicago (1876-78), Manager of Chicago (NL, 1876-77). Part owner / Pres. Of Chicago club, 1882-91. Hall of Fame, 1939. Org. 1st World BB tour, Helped draft NL constitution, 1876. Founded A. G. Spalding & Bros. sporting goods concern in 1876. In 1891, bought out Reach Co.

Cleveland BB team treasurer; Moved Springfield as boy, then Cleveland as young man. Deeply involved in Cleveland's business, social and public activities. Loved BB dearly. d. at home at 2PM, after yrs. of suffering from kidney problems (Howe), He 1st came to Cleveland('52) as rep. for Howe Sewing Machine Co., his cousin, was Elias Howe. He shortly thereafter went to Europe as rep. for the concern, remaining until shortly before Civil War. Returned, among 1st(Howe), enlistments,1st Ohio Volunteer artillery, under Gen. James Harriet. Served w/ distinction, retired at end of War w/ Captain's rank & comm. Identified with veteran's groups. Involved with banking. At death, Pres.of Citizen's Savings & Loan Co.,

(Howe), He held a heavy interest in the early Cleveland BB team. He, along with Howard Bulkley, owned the 1st BB team in Cleveland, which failed financially. Later, when a vacancy developed in the AA, he and several others organized a team. He was(Howe) He remained the treasurer of the team until Frank de Hass Robison & his brother bought the entire interest. Most socially prominent citizen, fine library, spoke several languages, incl. German & French. His father invented Howe truss bridge.(Howe) He traveled with Cleveland team for many yrs. Best friend to players. Most traveled,Visited most of globe, African jungles,Siberia,forbidden regions of Turkey. Republican, Mason,Customs collector under Pres.Hayes, police comm. under Mayor Gardner.Played 5 yrs. With Athletics of National, Ass. Thought to be 1st professional player for receiving $1,000. To play for Phil. In 1864. Later founded A. J. reach Sporting Goods Co. Patented baseball with cork center which was invented by Ben Shibe, his business partner & later Phil. A's owner. Sold out to Spalding Co. in 1891.

BB statistician; Arrived Chicago 1888, Was printer 1888-1908. Drifted into stats & became AL official statistician and also for number of minor leagues. Served as secretary for Chicago chapter of BBWAA for several yrs. d. kidney problem, BB's 1st Commissioner(Nov.12,'20-44);Ran BB like his own private fiefdom;His Good:Fought farm system,liberated 200 minor leaguers,nullified Ban Johnson(anti-player AL Pres.);Black marks:Barred blacks entry into org. BB; Blacks had to wait for his death;

(Landis,continued), Federal Judge who saved the hides of baseball's owners during their legal challenge from the Federal Leagues owners, who contended that the infamous & blatantly illegal "reserve clause & 10-day clauses" must be outlawed.(Landis), Landis sat on case, issued no decision, Federal League team owners realized that Landis would never rule against established leagues, & threw in the towel. Landis effectively killed free agency for next 60 yrs. d. coronary thrombosis,cremated(Landis,cont.), Landis also fought blacks entering baseball & adamantly refused to oppose the team owners gentlemen's agreement to bar blacks from organized BB. He also refused to reinstate Joe Jackson & Buck Weaver, who played their hearts out in '19.

NY; Vice President of A. G. Spalding & Co., sporting goods firm, & from '14-41 president of the American Sports Publishing Co.,publishers of the Spalding NL Baseball Guide books. d. St. Clare's Hospital,NYC, after 2 wk. illness, following an operation.Founded baseball statistics bureau; Kept the official records of the NL, International & many other leagues. He lost a leg in a Florida car accident. Brother Walter was general manager & took over after Al's death in '38. Office was:11 West 42nd St.,NYC

Went to NYC in('15) as personal rep. of William H. Yawkey, then owner of Det. Tigers. Following Yawkey's death in '19, Defoe served as financial/business adviser to Thomas A. Yawkey, nephew of William Yawkey. Red Sox secretary('33), Team Board member,(Defoe, continued) Started ship-building company of Bay City with his brother Harry J. Defoe. He also raised Angus cattle in Mt. Pleasant Plantation in Andrews, SC. Developed one of finest breeding herds in country his last 15 yrs.

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Bost.; Sports cartoonist for Boston Globe for 35 yrs. Joined The Glove in 1910 as a commercial artist. In 1947, The Globe published a series of his sketches of the major league baseball parks, which now hang in BB's Hall of Fame at Cooperstown,NYWhite Sox VP & Secretary 1908-Dec.1945, White Sox President('40); June 1946 was named VP of Indians to death; lied to Joe Jackson to get him to sign 1920 contract, told him the 10 day release clause had been dropped. It hadn't. d. brain tumor

NY spwr & PR & traveling secretary; Before joining the Yankees, was baseball & boxing writer for the NY Daily News, Earlier sp. ed. of Hudson Dispatch(NJ). Became Yankees' traveling secretary (early 40's) & longtime member of team PR Dept. Bost.; started as usher for Braves; grad.buss. sch.,became secretary of officials of club. Became traveling secretary('19) after Navy service in WW I and held it until 1928. Red Sox Traveling Secretary for17 yrs. Made Assistant GM Red Sox.

BB's 2nd Commissioner; WWI, succeeded Judge Landis, brushed aside strong opposition from majority of owners in clearing way for Jackie Robinson. Kentucky Governor('35-39,55-59)US Senate('39-45). Supported BB's continuation during WWII. d. heart attackDirector of security for baseball('52-70); Earlier, had been US Treasury Dept. agent, 1927-52(undercover work in narcotics & bootlegging). Had been FB & BB player at St. bonaventure U. & BB coach & ass. FB coach at Xavier U. in Cinc. d. cancer

Chicago,NY sports wr.; Lorain Times-Herald,Mansfield News(OH), Cleveland Times, South Bend News-Times, Chicago American spwr. (Nov.'28-41),Cubs GM('41-56),Ad/PR agency('57),Phillies('58),Comm.Off.('62-74); Helped develop pension plan & free agency rule.

NY exec; Grad. Dartmouth('43), WW2 Navy, Fordham Law Sch., Giants front officeVP('46), GM('50), succeeded Warren Giles as NL Pres.('70-86),opposed DH rule NL. 15 months Pres. of SD Padres('88). d. heart attack California Pacific Hosp.(San Francisco).

ML 1B, 1871-1897, also played 118 games at 3B, assorted other positions occasionally. 1876-97 were spent with the Chicago White Stockings. Cap managed the White Stockings from 1879-97, and the NY Giants for 1898. He was known for his personal leadership qualities, and prowess as a hitter.

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Cleveland OF(1880), Detroit(1881-88), Pittsburgh(1889-91), Baltimore(1892); Pittsburgh manager(1889-91), Baltimore manager(1892-98), Brooklyn manager(1899-1906), Reds manager('06-07). Buried: New Cathedral cemetery, Baltimore,MO Why not in Hall of Fame?(Hanlon) Hanlon, not McGraw developed inside tactics; hit & run, the squeeze, hit behind the runner, double steal, which singularly raised the level of play. He developed McGraw,Robinson,Jennings,Gleason,Kelley,Bowerman. Won 4 pennants in row,1894-97.ML 1B (1882-94), ML manager ( 1883- 94), Chicago White Sox owner(1901-31). Charles managed the St. Louis Browns (1883-89), jumped to the Chicago team in the Player's L. In 1890, went back to the St. Louis Browns for 1891, and finished up his managing career for Cincinnati from 1892-1894. He joined Ban Johnson in launching the AL in 1901.

ML player (1880-97); Widely agreed that Buck was the greatest all-around player of the 1800's, and one of the very greatest catchers who ever lived, until he hurt his throwing arm in sping of 1892. Buck took over managing the NY Giants from Monte Ward for the 1890 season, and returned to them to manage in 1900. He also managed Cinc. club 1895-99. (Ewing, continued) Buck joined the Player's League for 1890 season, managing a NY team to a 3rd pl. finish. The Giants sued him over it's reserve clause. Buck won in court. Monte Ward also was sued over the reserve clause, represented himself & won.

ML P, IF (1878-94). Started off as a great pitcher, compiled 164-103, 118 ERA+; Hurt his arm in late 1883, converted to SS, but also a lot of 2B, OF, "Monte" managed Providence 1880, NY Giants, 1884, Brooklyn, 1890-92, and the NY Giants once more from 1893-94.

(Ward, continued) A star ballplayer in college, he hired on as a pitcher, and had 7 great yrs. on the mound before he hurt his arm in late '83, and converted to the IF. He also ran well, leading his league in SB 3 times, once with 111. He studied law at night, graduated with honors in 1885. (Ward, continued) When the Player's Brotherhood announced itself in 1885, John Ward was elected it's President, BB's 1st labor union. On Nov. 4, 1889, John met with around 40 players and discussed forming a Player's L. Around 100 NL players jumped to the new league. Although it lasted only for 1890 season. He returned to NL & finished out his career.

Philadelphia catcher(1886-90), Baltimore Orioles catcher(1890-1902), Baltimore Oriole manager('02), Brooklyn Robins/Dodgers manager('14-31). Colorful, delightfully comical character. Much loved by fans & sportswriters dream. Similar to Casey Stengel.

Brooklyn catcher(1890), Phil.(1897-98), Philadelphia Phillies manager(1897-98), Tigers manager('01), New York Highlanders manager('09-10), Boston Braves('13-20). Led his 1914 Boston Braves team, which was last mid-summer to World Champ.(Miracle Braves).Detroit man.('03-04,Aug.),Red Sox manager(Dec.13,'17-Oct.'20),At Harry Hooper's pressure,converted star pitcher Babe Ruth to OF('18-19).As GM of Yankees(Oct.29,'20-39),Pres.(Jan.17,'39-45,Feb.),14 pennants,10 World Series wins,had decisive influence over…(Barrow,continued) owner Jake Ruppert. In his autobiography('51), stressed he'd never even considered offering Babe Ruth a job with the Yankees after his playing days ended due to Babe's past misbehavior towards Huggins & McCarthy, whose job Babe coveted.

ML 3B(1891-06);Balt.Oriole man.(1899,01-02), NY Giants man.('02-32);W/ Connie Mack, greatest manager all time.For 31 yrs.('03-31)came in lower than 3rd 5 times.Came1st 12 times, 2nd 10 times.Abrasive,colorful,dictatorial.New Cathedral Cem.,Baltimore,MD.

ML infielder(1898-1905);Cardinals manager('05),Kansas City manager('06-07), Louisville manager, Indianapolis manager, Fort Wayne('10), Indianapolis('11-12), Fort Wayne('13-14), Tigers coach('14-17), St. Louis Browns manager('18-20),

Reds 3B('13-14), Phillies('15-17),Cardinals('18),Giants('18);Giants coach('29),Yankees scout('48-49), Angels scout('61-69). Also managed extensively in minors:Jersey City, Mobile,Atlanta,Chattanooga,Knoxvill,Little Rock,Selma,Oak Ridge,Saginaw,Louisville

Giants shortstop('09-20), Phillies('20,22), Phillies manager('23-26), Yankees manager(11g,'29), Yankees coach('27-45). Like Frankie Crosetti, got lots of WS rings(9), thanks to Yankees reign at the top. Buried: Glenwood Cemetery, Collinsville, IL

ML infielder('07,10-18,20); Federal League manager,Newark('15), Pirates' manager('22-26),Cardinals coach('27), Cardinals manager('28-29), Boston Braves manager('30-37), Reds manager('38-46), Cleveland Indians coach('47-49), Red Sox coach('52-53).Chicago Cubs manager('26-30), Yankee manager('31-46), Red Sox manager('48-50). In the subjective opinion of the writer, Stengel & McCarthy were the 3rd & 4th best managers after Mack & McGraw, 2 genius'. Mack was superior handler of players.(McCarthy, continued) In his 24 big-league seasons, Joe won 9 pennants and 7 World Championships, compiled a ML best .615 Won-Lost record, and best career world series W-L %, .698. From 1907-25, had a very active minor league career as player, manager.Pirate infielder('22-25), Pirates coach('26-29) & manager('29-31), Tigers coach('32),Reds coach('33,41),Braves coach('34), Pirates coach('35-39). Reds scout('40), Managed Indianapolis('40),Reds coach('41), Managed Syracuse Chiefs('42-50).

NL OF('12-25),Dodgers' coach('32-33) & manager(34-36),Boston Braves manager('38-43),Yankee manager('49-60),Mets('62-65).Casey(& Mack)proved that a manager needs the team to win.With good teams,he won,without them he couldn't.Delightfully colorful.

(Dykes,continued)Reds manager('58), Pirates coach('59),Tigers manager('59-60), Indians manager('60-61), Braves coach('62), Kansas City Athletics('63-64). Ty Cobb once tried to buy him from Mack for his Tigers, showing his value. Quite an endorsement!!

ML pitcher, club executive, scout; Pitched for Giants('18), Browns('28-29), Reds(31-32), pitched for Baltimore of International League fr. '20-27. VP & General Manager of Baltimore of Int'na'tional L. fr. '33-39.Owned Elmira club of Eastern L.('41-42).

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Yankees shortstop('25-29), Reds('30-33), Cardinals('33-37), Dodgers('38-41,43,45); Dodgers manager('39-48), Giants manager('48-55), Dodgers coach('61-64), Cubs manager('66-72), Astros manager('72-73). Slick glove, no hit. Sharpest, dapper dresser.During last 2 wks of '26,'27 seasons, can't tell from record books,but brought up by Yankees to sit on their bench but didn't get into any games. Ruth named him "the All-American out",accused him of stealing a watch. Bur: Forrest Lawns, Hollywood Hills,CA

2nd & 3rd baseman; Reds('30-31),Dodgers('32-35),Boston Braves('36-40,42-43),Giants('40),White Sox('43-45), Reds coach('49-51), Indians coach('52-56), White Sox coach('57-66,69), Tigers coach('67-68), d. congestive heart failureDodger catcher('28,30-35), Braves catcher('36-40), Pirates catcher('40-46), Indians catcher('47); Cleveland Indians manager('51-56), White Sox manager('57-69); Won AL pennants in '54(Indians), & '59(White Sox) to break up Stengel's 10 pennants in 12 yrs.!

Cardinals 1B for 1 game('36); Dodgers manager('54-76); Inducted into BB Hall of Fame('83), Won 7 NL pennants & 4 World Series as manager of first Brooklyn and then LA Dodgers. Managed 13 yrs. in minors before called up to Dodgers for '54 season.

Yankee 2B('50-53,55-57),Kansas City Athletics('57),Tigers('58),Indians('59),Reds('60,Braves('61),Twins('61); Twins coach('65-68, & manager,'69),Tigers man.('71-73),Texas Rangers manager('73-75),Yankees manager('75-79,83,85,88),Oakland A's manager('80-82).

Dodgers infielder('54-59), Cubs('60-61,63), Giants('62), Reds('62), Senators('63-65), Expos coach('71), San Diego Padres manager('72-73), Red Sox (coach,74-76, & manager,'76-80), Texas Rangers manager('81-82), Cubs (coach,84-86, & manager'88-91),

AL OF, 1956-63; Texas Ranger's manager, 1973; California Angels' manager, 1974; Kansas City Royals' manager, 1975-79; St. Louis Cardinals' manager, 1980-90; Kansas City Royals' coach, 1965; Mets' coach, 1966; California Angels' coach, 1974-75.

Brooklyn Dodgers scout; Brought to them:Zach Wheat,Dazzy Vance,Casey Stengel,Hi Myers,Jake Daubert,Jeff Pfeffer,Sherry Smith, Lew McCarty,Hank Deberry. Never left his job as proofreader for Newark Star Eagle. Also a printer.(Sutton, continued), Became full-time Dodger scout('09), Dodger buss.man. of Bears in Newark,NJ('13), Was with Tigers, Phillies, Reds('16-20). Returned to Dodgers in '20 & remained on payroll till illness forced his retirement in 1932.

scout; ML player(1891-1905), managed NY Giants(1995), Washington(1898), minor leagues: Toledo('05), Des Moines('06), Milwaukee manager('07). NL ump('1911). Minor League ump:New England L., AA, Pacific C. L,Western & 3I. Cubs scout('20-58),

White Sox scout('25-42); teamed with wife Bessie as scouting team. Roy was totally deaf & Bessie would read his lips, drive the car on scouting trips. She became shrewd judge of talent herself. d. after month's illness. Retired when wife became ill.

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Dodger scout; Branch Rickey sent him to make initial contact with Jackie Robinson in 1945,was Dodger's acting man. when Robinson broke major' modern color barrier.Had been ML catcher(Reds,'26-31,Dodgers,32-34,45). Coached Dodgers('43-51),Pirates('52-57).

ML pitcher White Sox, Braves, Dodgers & Cardinals, mostly in relief (1933, 1 inning, '37-41, 44-45. Piloted 14 minor league teams, '51-70. He also scouted for ML in between, for White Sox at time of death. He played for 13 minor L. clubs. d. cancer

Pirates' scout (1950-59), Pirates scouting director, 1959-67; Special Ass. to Cincinnati GM, 1968-1990. Singned Maz to Pirates, '54, Maury Wills to Dodgers, 1950, Dick Groat to Pirates, 1952, also signed Roger Craig and infielders Gene Freese and Gene Michael. Was a longtime resident of the Pittsburgh suburb Mount Lebanon. Moved to FL in 1980.

St. Louis Browns/Baltimore Orioles scout (1951-86): He began as a scout with the Browns and stayed on when the Browns moved to Balt. Involved with securing Jim Palmer, Boog Powell, Dave McNally, Davey Johnson, Frank Robinson. 6 pennants, 3 WS.

d. heart attack after 3 weeks illness, after suffering sunstroke during course of a game in August. His yr. of birth is often erroneously listed as 1852, when it actually was 1862, as listed in the Cal. death index. Began promising BB career as 2B for the Renos in 1884, at age 22. Umped in the Cal. L. in 1886, the Players L. in 1890.

NL pitcher for Washington in 1894; Pitched only 5 innings in 1 game. President / manager of the Scranton team in the NY / PA league (1926). Pitched for Providence L. in 90's. Umped in Eastern L., AA L., worked the '13 WS, managed Milwaukee in AA, Oklahoma City in TX, L., Providence in Eastern L., Scranton in NY/PA L., Newark in Intern. L.

Began umpiring when 20, and still playing ball in the New England league. Worked the '08 WS. Later, became umpire-in-chief of England, New England, and International League. Retired '36, he worked Harvard, Yale, Holy Cross games. Owned Bowling alleys.colorful ML league player, with Chicago White Ox ,manager, umpire & club Pres. Owned Western L. clubs, in Siox City and Lincoln, NE. Umpired in Western L., and scouted for some teams including Des Moines, IA

Grad. U, of Michigan & its law school, AL umpire while in college, Detroit Times sp. ed.; Joined General Foods in 1937, and became a VP, and Campbell Soup Co. in 1953, and became an executive VP.

Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.

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Umpired for 25 yrs. for the AA, NL, Eastern Association, & the college association. Received $5-$10. for each of his earlier games. d. from injuries & exposure, when he fell on a country rd. during a snowstorm days before.

They called him "The King of Umpires", NL Pres.('09-13). He was a prominent Elk. D. Hartford Hospital after illness of 6 wks. Very interested in New Britain, CT Lyceum Theatre. Umped in Eastern L. before he joined Nat. L. staff.

Managed Washington Senators AL team for 1907-09, Served as umpire, player & scout in various leagues. First sent Walter Johnson his fare for tryout with Senators, after many other teams passed on offering him tryout.

ML(1892-1907) & minor league shortstop, was rated by some as greatest fielding shortstop, later was clothing salesmen for Gimbels Brothers dept. store, managed Kansas City minor league team.

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Invented catcher's mask. Pitched in North Eastern & Atlantic Leagues. Also umpired in Federal League & AA. Shortly after his wife died, he left for 3 wk. vacation to Europe. Reported to have died of infection of neck, contracted from onboard ship.

Died in Victory Memorial Hospital in Brooklyn, NY, following an operatin for an appendicitis. In 1911, he played in the South Atlantic League as catcher. Had to quit due to bad arm. Umpired in Western League before Johnson appointed him to work in '21.Umped in Kitty L. (1910), Missouri-Illinois, Central, Central Ass., Ohio St., NY St., International L., Texas L., Southern L.; Umped 26 yrs., over 4,000 g. Once held AL record for working 1710 consecutive games. d. Baptist Hosp. long-term kidney illness

Southern Ass. League (20 yrs.), National, Federal ,Iowa State, Western Ass., Western League, Wisconsin State umpire. Coached FB at Tennesse U. Medical College at Memphis, TN. d. underwent emergency operation for ruptured ulcer.

Secretery of St. Louis Browns until his death in 1884. Credited with developing present system of batting / fielding ave. Served as sp. ed. of the Phil. Sunday Dispatch, moved St. Louis in 1875. Worked Republican, Post-Dispatch, Spectator and Critic. NY spwr.; Grad. Seton Hall, NJ, & CC,NY; NY Daily News, NY Commercial Advertiser, NY Herald BB reporter for 10 yrs., dramatic critic, city ed., Albany correspondent. In 1872, accepted the office of Clerk of the Board of Assistant Aldermen for a short time. (Kelly, continued) Ed. DeWitt BB Guide 1968. One of 1st to make use of box scores, & is credited with introducing the shorthand system of scoring in 1861 editor-in-chief of Atlantic Monthly d. congestion of the kidneys, complicated by pneumoniaSt. Louis spwr.; Grad. Cornell U., entered journalism in NY; St. Louis Republic spwr.: Secretary / Manager of St. Louis Browns (May, 1885- 1890) Made business man. / secretery of Chicago Players League club (The Brotherhood, June 15, 1890). Did the publicity for Chris Von Der Ahe in 1891 - 1994, Aug. 9. St. Louis baseball scorer. (Munson, continued) Press Agent of St. Louis Fair Ass. Put out Horse Show Monthly. Sec. of Horse Show Ass. / local Kennel Club. Was elected Pres. of the original Base Ball reporters Association of America in Cincinnati (Dec.,1887); One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide.

(Munson, continued) Essential member of Scorer's Ass. One of the editors of the Spalding Official Base Ball Guide. Came from NY in 1883. Married Lizzie in 1888; 2 kids by 1900. d. double pneumonia / kidney complications, buried in Calvary Catholic Cemetery on March 17, 1908.Chicago spwr.; Began his career Chicago Times (1881?-?), Chicago Herald news writer & night editor, Chicago Chronicle editorial staff, managing ed. His brother Horatio is publisher of the Chicago Chronicle. d. Had been ill with Tuberculosis for several months, and had sought El Paso climate to prolong his life.St. Louis spwr.; Arrived from Quebec to St. Louis in 1860's. One of 1st BB writers in Midwest. Cincinnati telegrapher, left Western Union telegraph Co. to wrk Cinc. Gazette & then went St. Louis, Missouri Democrat. When Globe merged with Democrat, took over as telegrph ed. During spare time, developed sp. page for Globe-Democrat.

NY spwr.; NY Sunday Mercury (1975-?). Served official scorer NY Metropolitans (1880-83), and for the Giants (1883-89). Was a staunch advocate of the International League of the 1870's. NY Herald (1876-89). United Press sports writer (1894). Brother of William M. Rankin

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Boston, NY spwr.; Grad. Saugus HS, MA, in 1907, Mt. Hermon academy, 1909, Dartmouth College, 1913, Boston Post (1913-17), started on city staff, quickly moved on to sports staff, 1914-17, Seved w/ 76th Div. & 5th div. in WWI, w/ rank of captain, 1917-19.(Parker, continued) Boston American (1919-22), NY Evening Mail (1923-24), NY Morning World (1924-27), NY World-Telegram (1927-39, Aug. 24) Free-lance writer to many periodicals. Ass. Director to Leo Casey, Dir. Publicity for NY World's Fair.

Milwaukee spwr.; sports editor and reporter for papers in Racine and in LaPorte, Ind., before joining the Journal in 1922 as a rewrite man. Became sports editor in 1933, holding the post until 1956, when he became a natural resources reporter. He retired in 1964. Milwaukee Journal spwr. (1922-56),

(Smith, continued) He began as a copy reader in the editorial dept. in 1912, and stayed until the start of WWI. Received commission as 2nd lieutenant, seved more than yr. overseas with/165 infantry. After war, then 1st lieutenant, returned to Tribune, made sp. ed. in '21, left in '25. Phil. spwr; Credited with helping Connie Mack get his start in baseball. Fletcher, along with Tom Reilly of Meriden, persuaded Mack to leave his home in east Brookfield, MA and join the Meriden team of Connecticut League in 1884. d. in New Haven hospital

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(Meacham) Delta Kappa Epsilon. Prepared Phillips Academy, Andover; A. C., 1867. Tutor Christian College, Indiana, 1868; reporter and proof reader Times and Tribune, Chicago, Illinois, 1869-71; private secretary to Mayor Medill, 1871-72; editor at the Rutland Herald, 1874; reporter and associated editor at the Chicago Rutland Herald, 1874;

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d. heart attack after 3 weeks illness, after suffering sunstroke during course of a game in August. His yr. of birth is often erroneously listed as 1852, when it actually was 1862, as listed in the Cal. death index. Began promising BB career as 2B for the Renos in 1884, at age 22. Umped in the Cal. L. in 1886, the Players L. in 1890.

NL pitcher for Washington in 1894; Pitched only 5 innings in 1 game. President / manager of the Scranton team in the NY / PA league (1926). Pitched for Providence L. in 90's. Umped in Eastern L., AA L., worked the '13 WS, managed Milwaukee in AA, Oklahoma City in TX, L., Providence in Eastern L., Scranton in NY/PA L., Newark in Intern. L.

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NL 1926-49 Taunton,MA

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AL 1912,14

AL 1907-1 NL 1878,86

AL 1902-18 Rochester,NYAL 1915 Pittsburgh,PAAL 1915AL 1920 Renovo,PAAL 1909-37 Syracuse,NYAL 1911-12 Paterson, NJAL 1909-12AL 1914-15AL 1915-32 Scranton,PAAL 1913-34 San Francisco,CAAL 1923-27 Platteville,WIAL 1923-2 NL 1921 Dayton,OHAL 1906-27 Chicago,ILAL 1917-40 Chicago,ILAL 1914-22, (exc.17,18)AL 1927-33 Rochester,NYAL 1916-37 Milwaukee,WIAL 1922,28-32 Chicago,ILAL 1925-42 Indianapolis,INAL 1928-3 NL 1939-40AL 1933-40 Rock Island,IL

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AL 1933-59 Harrison,NYAL 1925-54 Wilmington,DEAL 1923-41 Chicago,ILAL 1935-51 Keytesville,MO

AL 1938-59 Baltimore,MDAL 1907-14

AL 1921-2 NL 1922-28

AL 1925-26AL 1942-62 Phillipburg,NJ

AL 1911-12

NL1879,81,86-91NL 1941-64 Chicago,ILAL 1953-73

NL 1892-93,98-01 Wash. D.C.NL 1884-86,91-94,99- Roxbury,MA

NL 1891-1924 Guelph,OntarioNL 1926-49 Taunton,MA

minors? Lancaster Co.,PANew Britain,Conn.

NL 1887 NL 1895-1927,(exc.96Chicago,ILNL 1903-04,10,18 New York,NYFL 1914 Philadelphia,PANL 1909-10NL 1913-19NL 1905-40 Rochester,NY

NL1889-99,02,NL Pres.1910-14

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NL 1913-37 New Castle,NB,CANNL 1930-34, (exc. 32) Cook County,ILNL 1902,10-16 Brookville,PANL 1917-39 Nashville,TNNL 1903-1 AL 1902NL 1906-35, (exc.23) Massillon,OHAL 1927-33 Rochester,NYNL 1928 Clarendon,PANL 1914 long-time minors umpNL 1922-36 Cincinnati,OHNL 1931-49 Scammon,KSNL 1936-57 NL 1929-47 McPherson,KSNL 1928-35,37-40,42 New York

NL 1922-28, AL 21-22

NL 1951-76 NYCNL 1892NL 1876,78-80,87-88, Nat. Ass.1874-75

NL 1891-94NL 1909-13,21 TN