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Paleo Magazine Podcast Episode 65 2014 Page 1 Podcast Episode 65 2014 {Music} Host: Welcome to PMR, Paleo Magazine Radio, where we bring you Paleo nutrition, exercise and lifestyle perspectives, from both the experts and the every day. PMR is brought to you by Paleo Magazine, the first and only print magazine dedicated to the Paleo lifestyle and is hosted by Tony Federico. Tony Federico: When you feel like your progress is stalled, do you seek out new information or do you pause and reflect? Oftentimes, we don’t need more information. We all kind of know what we need to do. What we could benefit from, however, is a change in mindset. How are we interacting with the world? How are we perceiving events? How are we responding, or not responding, to the challenges that we all face in our lives? This is precisely the sort of challenge that Kevin Geary has undertaken with his blog and podcasts, The Rebooted Body. Kevin changed careers, lost 20 pounds and got healthy several years ago and decided that he wanted to make a career of helping people. We’re going to talk to Kevin today about how he’s transitioned into the business of making people better and what it means for you, someone who could potentially benefit from hitting the reboot button. In the second half of the show, we’re going to continue our Paleo 101 series, this time focusing on exercise, or as I like to say, movement. So, stick around. Paleo Magazine Radio starts now.

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Paleo Magazine Podcast Episode 65

2014 Page !1

Podcast Episode 65

2014

{Music}

Host: Welcome to PMR, Paleo Magazine Radio, where we bring you Paleo

nutrition, exercise and lifestyle perspectives, from both the experts and the

every day. PMR is brought to you by Paleo Magazine, the first and only print

magazine dedicated to the Paleo lifestyle and is hosted by Tony Federico.

Tony Federico: When you feel like your progress is stalled, do you seek out new information

or do you pause and reflect? Oftentimes, we don’t need more information.

We all kind of know what we need to do. What we could benefit from,

however, is a change in mindset. How are we interacting with the world?

How are we perceiving events? How are we responding, or not responding, to

the challenges that we all face in our lives? This is precisely the sort of

challenge that Kevin Geary has undertaken with his blog and podcasts, The

Rebooted Body.

Kevin changed careers, lost 20 pounds and got healthy several years ago and

decided that he wanted to make a career of helping people. We’re going to

talk to Kevin today about how he’s transitioned into the business of making

people better and what it means for you, someone who could potentially

benefit from hitting the reboot button.

In the second half of the show, we’re going to continue our Paleo 101 series,

this time focusing on exercise, or as I like to say, movement. So, stick around.

Paleo Magazine Radio starts now.

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{Music}

Tony Federico: All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Paleo Magazine Radio.

I’m here with Kevin Geary. He’s a holistic lifestyle coach, creator of The

Total Body Reboot and the host of The Rebooted Body podcast. Kevin,

welcome to the show.

Kevin Geary: Thank you for having me.

Tony Federico: So, this is kind of a fun opportunity. I actually first met you, you had reached

out some time ago. We connected and I was a guest on your podcast. I think

this is going back to maybe episode seven of your podcast, which is 42

episodes deep, currently. So, it’s a pleasure to be able to have you on our

show and talk a little bit about podcasting, talk about the Paleo drama that

flutters up to the surface occasionally and sort of the notion of what do you

talk about when you talk to people about Paleo. So, I kind of wanted to cover

some of those things with you.

First of all, however, let’s get a little bit of your own personal back story.

Who is Kevin Geary? What makes you tick?

Kevin Geary: I was about 220 pounds in 2009 and I had struggled with my weight for

awhile doing the typical yo-yo dieting and I would get down to 200 and then,

go back up and really, every time I lost weight, I would regain more and I

think that’s a typical thing that people experience. So, I made it up to 220

through the process of yo-yo dieting, basically.

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Tony Federico: So, you had kind of dieted up to 220.

Kevin Geary: Exactly, yes and just following all the conventional wisdom. And it’s funny

because the conventional wisdom had worked for me when I was 16. I was

doing a lot of running and I was just cutting calories and doing the typical like

whole-grains approach and I guess when you’re super-young, it tends to work.

But as you get older, it stops working and it definitely breaks your body, even

when I was 16 and I was eating that way and running and I was 155 pounds or

whatever it was, I was tired all the time and my body just wasn’t working the

way it should.

So, let’s go back to 2009. I’m 220 pounds and I’m in the doctor’s office

getting a physical and the doctor basically says, “Hey, you have high blood

pressure and you’re borderline diabetic.” And I’m in my mid-20s, like that

stuff’s not really supposed to happen at that age, so I decided that it’s really

important for me to completely transform everything, to get healthy because I

don’t want the outcomes that I know are going to be eventual.

My grandfather died of type II diabetes, so that really struck close to home

and my father has heart issues, so high blood pressure doesn’t really help that

out. So, I basically said I don’t want to end up like these people. I definitely

want to make a change and I knew that yo-yo dieting conventional wisdom

didn’t work, so I really set out and said, “I am going to find people who are

saying completely the opposite of what I’ve heard before, and if anybody is

saying anything remotely similar to what I’ve already tried, I’m just going to

ignore them. I’m going to move on and I’m going to reach out to people who

are saying something completely different.”

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And that’s where I found the ancestral health movement and long story short,

eight months later, I was at 170 pounds and I continued to improve. I felt

better. I’m at 165 pounds right now and I’ve maintained that for years now,

obviously. So, that’s one critical aspect because the truth is you could lose

weight doing pretty much anything you want to do. The question is, “Are you

are going to maintain that progress?” So, the fact that I’ve maintained that

progress for so long is the critical component.

And the Rebooted Body and the podcasts and all that stuff came out of people

seeing my transformation. I was owning a martial arts studio at the time, so I

had a lot of clients and they were all kids, but their parents would come in and

see me all of the time and they saw this transformation, which was pretty big

and they kept asking me and approaching me, “Hey, how did you do this?

Can you give me some tips?” and I just started telling people kind of on the

side, “Well, I did this and I did this and I did this,” and they actually

implemented that stuff, came back and said, “Wow, that’s really cool. I’m

getting good results, too,” and I kind of got hooked on seeing the

transformations people were making.

And it was kind of at this time, as well—and this is 2012 now—the industry

that I was in with martial arts was really going downhill. It was selling out

bad. It was selling out really fast and I didn’t want to be a part of that

anymore and the person I was working with just wasn’t a good person, so I

wanted out. And I didn’t really have anything to jump to except for the fact

that all of these people were coming to me for help with health and fitness.

So, I decided to start a little program on the side. We did it live and in-person

and I reached out to the people who were already members at my studio, just

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to the parents, and I said, “Hey, I’m going to put a group program together.

It’s going to be six months long and this is what it’s going to be about. If

you’re interested, let me know.” And eight people, eight couples, I should say,

16 people, contacted me and said, “Hey, we’re in,” because I had let them

know that the spouses are going to be included.

That was one thing that I thought was really important. It’s not going to work

very well when one person in a household is on-board and the other person is

not on-board, so I let people know up-front, “Your spouse is going to be

included if you want to do this,” so eight people said yes and they brought

their spouse with them, so we had a group of 16 people that went through this

like beta version of Total Body Reboot and I learned a lot through coaching

that group program. Most importantly what I learned was that people can

have all the right information and still fail if they don’t have the mental side of

the game down, the psychology side.

So, I kind of corrected that error where I thought it was just about telling

people what to eat and how to exercise and how to live and that was the

answer and that was the end of it. And that group program taught me that

that’s just half of it. The other half is the psychology side.

So, I revamped the program to do a lot of work on mindset and psychology

and then, I was thinking about growing the program because obviously I

wanted to leave this studio situation that I was in and I was kind of running

the numbers on doing group programs and I was like, “Ah, I don’t know. This

is going to be really hard to do to make this leap.”

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And I have a background in web design and web marketing and things like

that, so it was just a natural jump to where I said, “Let’s take this thing online.

Let’s open it up to a global audience,” because I don’t need to be in-person to

help people. I can help people legitimately just online. So, I launched the

Rebooted Body blog and then, I launched the podcasts and then, I launched

the online version of the program, all within a two-month timeframe and since

then, we’ve just been growing like gangbusters.

Tony Federico: So, let’s talk a little bit about your journey since then. We got the details of

your own personal transformation, about 50 pounds of weight loss,

transitioning out of a career that wasn’t really serving you as well. Now that

you’re in your new phase of helping people, of helping yourself, what are

some experiences that have really stood out?

Kevin Geary: Yes, really the program has been key because I get to connect personally with

so many people. Now the podcast has been key to really getting the audience

that eventually comes into the program. I mean, the blog is important, as well,

and that does the job, too. But the podcast and the blog is just me talking to

other people, to an audience. It’s not like a one-on-one conversation and those

one-on-one conversations happen inside the program day-in and day-out,

where I am in direct contact with people and that’s what I really get the most

out of because hearing peoples’ stories, helping them work through their

problems and seeing their transformations, that’s been the best thing so far.

Tony Federico: And are you still using a similar template for the Total Body Reboot? Are you

still kind of running people through a six-month kind of program, or is it some

people can kind of jump in or jump out as they move along and develop on

their own pace?

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Kevin Geary: Yes, it’s still a six-month program. It’s been revamped about three times, so

we’re on like version three now. And everybody starts at the very beginning.

It’s paced strategically and basically it’s six stages and each stage is 30 days

long and when you come into the program—because I want to prevent

information overload and I don’t want to overwhelm people—so you only get

access to the first stage and then every 24 days, the next stage automatically

unlocks and you get access to that, so you’re kind of paced through the

program.

And just the way that it’s set up, it works for everybody. Whether you have

no idea what ancestral health is, or even if you’ve been doing a program like

Paleo and it’s not working for you because you’re following this framework,

but it’s not personalized, so there’s a problem with just these generic

templates. Like Paleo says, “Eat this, not that,” and people try to follow that,

but not every suggestion really applies to them and they need some strategic

tweaks based on just their individuality.

And then, like I said, you also have the psychology and the mindset

component, as well, so no matter how good Paleo is, there is no template

inside Paleo for dealing with the mental and emotional and psychological

hurdles that people have to overcome. So, that’s also in Total Body Reboot, as

well. So, I have a bunch of people who started out on Paleo who have done

Total Body Reboot for just conquering those mental and emotional hurdles, as

well as the individualization that I put into the program.

Tony Federico: I think that that’s such a huge part of it and it’s refreshing to hear you address

that piece, the psychological piece, because for all intensive purposes, if you

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have an Internet-enabled computer or a smart phone or whatever, the

information’s out there. Everyone can find a list of Paleo-approved foods or

foods that are approved for really any diet out there in general.

But why isn’t everybody in great shape? So if it was simply a matter of

access to information, then we would have it solved and I think where we get

stuck, really, is the psychological component. Why are we defeating

ourselves? Why are we selling ourselves short? Why are we sabotaging our

own efforts? What have been some strategies that you might suggest for

somebody who’s looking to address their psychological barriers to success?

Kevin Geary: Yes, it just depends on what people are dealing with. There’s so much stuff

that they could be dealing with, but what I’ve done is I’ve identified—and I

wrote an action guide on this—but I’ve identified eight key triggers. I call

them unhealthy eating triggers that really like pop up and grab people and just

pull them back to their old ways and this is one of the biggest things I think

people struggle with is that they start out really well and then…

Tony Federico: Kind of the honeymoon phase, almost.

Kevin Geary: Yes, exactly, and then, they just start slipping back to old ways and they feel

like they’re just out-of-control, like their mind takes over and no matter what

they believe or want to do, they just can’t act on that consistently, day after

day.

So, the eight triggers are nutritional poverty, which if you’ve already done like

a Paleo approach, this is probably not an issue, but if your body’s not getting

the nutrients that it needs, it’s going to create insatiable hunger because your

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body has a desire to get those nutrients. It’s going to tell you, “Eat, eat, eat,”

if it doesn’t have what it needs.

Tony Federico: So, even is somebody is eating sufficient calories, those might not be nutrient-

dense calories, so it’s this whole over-fed and under-nourished, I guess is how

it’s referred to sometimes.

Kevin Geary: Yes. If you’re eating poor food, nutritionally-poor food all the time, which

this would be like a Weight Watcher’s type approach where you’re counting

points, but there’s no care about the quality of the food you’re eating. It’s just

about, “Am I doing the points right every day?” Well, that’s going to cause

nutritional poverty, all right?

So, the next one is macro-nutrient mania and this would be another problem.

This kind of goes hand-in-hand with nutritional poverty, but if you’re just

eating a bunch of high-glycemic stuff—this happens typically on low-fat diets

where people are avoiding fat, their hormones get completely deranged where

they can’t really burn fat for fuel anymore. They just rely on sugar all of the

time, so that’s another trigger.

Now, those are the two main physical triggers, so those aren’t mental. Those

are just physical triggers. Then, we have sugar-stressing, so a lot of people are

sugar addicts. This is one of the hardest transitions to make when you’re

going from a typical diet to like an ancestral health-style diet where you really

want to kick the sugar habit. You just can’t find a way to make it happen. So,

that’s another trigger and I show people how to defeat that.

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Then, we have mindless madness, so I tell people what to eat is really

important and how much to eat is really important, but how to eat is really

important and that’s something that’s not often talked about. And a lot of

people eat very mindlessly and the problem with mindlessness with eating is

that you don’t have the awareness of your satiety and your hunger signals like

you do with mindful eating.

So, we always talk about eat when you’re hungry and stop when you’re full.

A lot of people don’t know when they’re actually hungry. They believe that,

“If I just feel a little bit of hunger, that means I’m hungry.” Well, no,

sometimes you’re eating out of habit. Sometimes you’re eating because it’s a

social situation. Sometimes you’re eating because the clock says a certain

time and that’s when your boss lets you off to go eat and you’re not actually

hungry. You’re just eating at all of these like socially-acceptable times.

There’s also mindless eating where you’re eating in the car because you need

to eat very quickly, or you have your phone out at dinner and you’re going

through your phone while you’re eating and all of these examples of mindless

eating inhibit the ability to eat when you’re hungry and stop when you’re full

and to create a cycle out of that. And that’s really where healthy eating habits

come into play.

The next one is feeding emotions, so emotional eating—and this is a very

broad topic—but just general emotional eating is very big and I address that.

Pattern paralysis, like we just talked about, just eating out of habit in different

situations. This is something I struggled with a lot. So in my family, after

dinner, we would eat dessert pretty much every time. That’s just a habit, so

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when I started to eat healthy, when I ate dinner, guess what triggered in my

mind? “Hey, it’s time for dessert.”

Tony Federico: Dessert, something sweet.

Kevin Geary: Yes, and if it’s sugar, that kind of compounds because now you’re dealing

with the sugar trigger and you’re dealing with the habit trigger.

Tony Federico: So, you’re going back into that vicious cycle.

Kevin Geary: Exactly and another one was, I was in front of the television when I was a kid.

I would always be eating, so as an adult, that’s something I have to be very

wary of, that when I turn on a television, bang, right in my mind, triggers,

“You got to find some food to eat with this television show you’re about to

watch.” That’s a habit that I had to break. And all of the people are going to

have different habits like this, but it’s key that they identify them and address

them and overcome them.

And then, we got two more, so ego-depletion is number seven and this is a

will power myth trigger. A lot of people think that will power is like a muscle

and they can have it and strengthen it and they can rely on it and I kind of

teach the opposite, that my will power sucks as much as your will power.

Everybody walks around saying, “My will power sucks.” Yes, mine sucks,

too, because will power is not something that you can rely on. It’s more like a

cup where it’s either full or it’s getting empty. There’s things during the day

that empty it and you can work on filling it back up. There’s strategies for

doing that, but you also have to have other plans. You can’t just rely on will

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power because the problem with will power is when you need it the most, it’s

likely to not be there for you.

Tony Federico: So, depending on sheer will force of will isn’t enough to successfully break

those habits.

Kevin Geary: Absolutely not. If it was all about will power, I would be failing just like the

majority of people. I just want people to know that, that it is absolutely not

about will power. Now, will power can help you at times. It’s just not

something to rely on.

And then, the last one is regressive rewarding and this is kind of a self-

sabotage trigger and a lot of people have experienced this where they do really

well for awhile and then, at some point, they kind of feel like they can let off

the gas pedal a little bit and have a little of the old food that they enjoyed here

and there and that kind of compounds into, “Okay, now I’m 80-20 to 60-40, to

30-70 and now I’m 0-100 again, and I’m way back to where I was,” so I help

people deal with that, as well.

Tony Federico: I really like the addressing of the physical in terms of the nutrient density and

things like potentially addictive food substances like sugar and then, just kind

of gradually going deeper and deeper into the layers of habit and behavior and

then, even going perhaps to the ultimate one, what are you afraid of if you

actually reach your goal and find out something about yourself and that can be

scary and lead to people turning away right when they’re at the cusp of

victory, of reaching their ultimate goal.

Kevin Geary: Absolutely.

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Tony Federico: So, let’s look at the podcasts, man. Like I said before, I got to join you for

episode seven. Let’s just kind of take a little history through it. What have

been some memorable episodes, some memorable guests that you’ve had

along the course of your podcast run?

Kevin Geary: Yes. There’s been so many. Doing this podcast has opened me up to just a

wide variety of experts and just people with really important things to say and

the key here is that I set out, when I made this podcast, I didn’t want to just

interview like the “top, top” people in the industry. I wanted to find the

people who are in the trenches, who are kind of like just like me, doing

awesome work and see what they had to say and see what new ideas were

coming up.

I think we all know what the Mark Sissons and the Robb Wolfs of the world

have to say. It was like, “What about all the other people who we don’t hear

of very often that are doing just as important work? What do they have to

say?” So, I kind of went with that approach to the podcast.

There’s people like Ali Shapiro, from Truce with Food, Dr. Lauren Noel, a lot

of people probably know her, though, Dr. Lowe. That’s been one of my most

popular episodes. Doing the Mainstream Media Madness series—which there

are now three parts of—has been really good, so those don’t have any guests,

but what I’ve done—these have just been really popular—is that I’ve taken

mainstream media clips of NBC Today show, Dr. Oz, all these people talking

about nutrition and health and just putting their clips on my podcast and

dissecting them and showing people how they’re being lied to and how

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they’re being manipulated by these mainstream messages and how

uninformed people are.

And I know people generally understand that these mainstream media outlets

are uniformed, but I don’t think they realize how deep it goes and in the case

of shows like Dr. Oz, how messages are actively manipulated, that they are not

just uninformed, but they are strategically misinforming their audience.

That’s kind of like putting it nicely.

Tony Federico: And that’s what I was going to say because I really don’t think that they’re

misinformed at all and that’s exactly what you addressed right there. I think

they know exactly what they’re doing, but they’re looking for a particular

outcome, which is, I would venture to say, making money or gaining an

audience, selling ad space.

Kevin Geary: Yes and there’s another thing. Dr. Oz knows what’s going on. He is a person

that’s actively manipulating stuff. As far as like the Today show goes, I’m

pretty sure that they are just uninformed because I don’t know if you’ve heard

of HARO, H-A-R-O, Help a Reporter Out.

Tony Federico: Um-hum [negative].

Kevin Geary: It’s a service where all of these journalists can send a mass email out to

whoever’s on the HARO list and they ask for people who are experts in such-

and-such a topic. And it’s not just health and fitness, but any topic. And

people reply and say, “Hey, I can help you out with that article you’re

writing.” So, then, they interview and everybody was saying, “Hey, you got to

get on HARO because you can get into media this way.” This is how you get

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—like I know Jennifer Fugo from GlutenFreeSchool.com got on Dr. Oz

through HARO, I believe. The problem is, there’s like no screening process

for…

Tony Federico: Right. They’re not vetting these individuals. They’re not verifying that they

are, in fact, an expert.

Kevin Geary: Yes, exactly. So, I see articles all of the time that are written with the help of

HARO and it is just horrible information, a lot of times and I think that’s what

the Today show goes through, is they kind of put out these feelers to different

people and whoever has the information first in their email box, that’s who

they go with and they put this stuff on the air as if it’s the truth and it’s well-

researched and that’s not the case.

Tony Federico: Yes. They’re just looking to put out content. They’re just making something

that seems compelling, but they’re not really accurately verifying any of the

data. They’re not looking at, “Is this something that can be scientifically-

verified?” or if there is a study that they’re citing, have they really

investigated the study? I know that recently there’s been a lot of dust-up over

a recent study regarding protein. So, we have another “example” of why too

much protein is bad, but if you actually look at the study itself, that’s not even

what it says.

Kevin Geary: I talked about this with Denise Minger, who wrote Death by Food Pyramid.

We talked a lot about the science and especially, I kind of challenged bloggers

all together who write these really intricate blog articles and link to a bunch of

studies and they’re basically linking to the studies based on the headline of the

study and I don’t think they’re actually going through the study to make sure

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that the study actually says what the headline says it says because Denise

pointed out that the headlines of a lot of these studies, they come to a

conclusion that the study never came to. So, you have to be very careful

about what you’re linking out to as far as research goes.

And going back to the Today show, even if they found somebody who did

know what they were talking about, it still has to be vetted by like their legal

department and all this other stuff because they have sponsors. If you’re

sponsored by General Mills, well, you can’t be putting out content about how

General Mills’ products are going to kill you.

Tony Federico: Probably not going to be happy about that.

Kevin Geary: Yes. The producers are like, “No, let’s nix the people talking bad about grains

because we’ll lose the General Mills’ partnership and let’s just put out what

this other guy is saying.” So, there’s a lot of that manipulation going on, too.

Tony Federico: Yes, so it’s sometimes not necessarily what they’re saying, but it’s what

they’re not saying, the information that they’re unwilling to disclose.

Kevin Geary: Yes and that forces them to disclose information that’s probably not truthful.

Tony Federico: Absolutely. So, what’s next for you? What’s next for The Rebooted Body?

What’s next for the podcast? What are you looking to do for 2014 and

beyond?

Kevin Geary: I’m actually just releasing a brand-new action guide. So, I have the program,

Total Body Reboot. I have the podcast. The program is a premium program,

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but aside from that, I have these action guides and they are e-books plus audio

books and the unique version of them is that you also get access to a support

group that is unique to that specific guide.

So, I already talked about the eight unhealthy eating triggers and how to

conquer them. That was the first guide that I wrote and I’m coming out with a

new one called REM REHAB, which is Reboot your sleep, feel amazing, and

light your productivity on fire, and that’s going to be at REMRehab.com. That

comes out March 27th and I wrote that with Evan Brand from Not Just Paleo.

So, yes, the action guide stuff is coming along and these are kind of written

just to address like side topics that apply to a lot of people, but aren’t

necessarily like needing to be inside my Total Body Reboot program.

I’m also getting ready to launch a YouTube channel for Rebooted Body TV

and I just put a feeler out to all of my audience saying, “Hey, what do you

want to see on Rebooted Body TV?” because I’ve been really wanting to get

on YouTube, but I don’t want to do what everybody else is doing on YouTube.

So, I’m really trying to explore and find something different that I can put out

for people there. So, that’s going to be really exciting and then, I’m going to

PaleoFX coming up here in April, so I’m just trying to do as much as I can to

put myself out there, get the message across and meet new people.

Tony Federico: Awesome, man. Well, you’re doing a great job. Congratulations. I think you

just passed the year mark not too long ago with your site, podcasts and

everything like that, so I’m sure you’re going to continue to grow and help

people reboot their lives from the bottom-up.

Kevin Geary: Yes, absolutely. Thank you.

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Tony Federico: That was Kevin Geary of TheRebootedBody.com. You can find more

information about Kevin’s total body reboot program by visiting

TheRebootedBody.com. Coming up next on the podcast, Paleo 101, Exercise.

We’ve got more Paleo Magazine Radio coming right up, so don’t go

anywhere. I’m Tony Federico and we’ll be right back.

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Tony Federico: This is part two of our Paleo 101, Paleo Lifestyles series. We’re going to be

talking about exercise today, but I’m going to go ahead and reiterate what the

Paleo lifestyle is, just kind of start each of these segments with that little Paleo

101 manifesto.

The Paleo lifestyle is about nourishing our bodies with real food that’s grown

and raised as nature intended, not manufactured in a sterile facility. It’s about

unplugging from modern-day electronics from time-to-time and giving your

body a chance to actually rest. It’s about getting enough sleep, bonding with

other individuals face-to-face, getting out in the sun, playing for the sake of

playing, reducing stress and giving your body a chance to thrive in the manner

it evolved.

So, last time, we talked about diet, which is obviously a super-important piece

of the puzzle. You got to fuel the machine. You got to feed the machine, but

you got to run the machine, you got to run that race car around the track. You

got to put it to the test.

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You got to get out and move and that’s probably a better way to describe the

Paleo approach to exercise. Rather than calling it exercise, let’s just call it

movement because if we look at our hunter-gatherer ancestors, if we look at

modern-day hunter-gatherers, they don’t go and CrossFit. They don’t go to

the gym and spin at 5:00 a.m. in the morning. They don’t do boot camps.

They walk a lot. They walk all over the place. It’s their primary mode of

transportation.

They don’t even necessarily run everywhere. They’re just walking, so a lot of

walking is something our bodies are programmed to need, just like we need

gravity. It’s like when an astronaut goes into space, they start getting really

out of shape because you need that pull. You need that positive stress of

movement to keep your body functioning the way that it’s designed to

function.

In addition to lots and lots of walking, lots and lots of general movement, we

want to try to reestablish some of these movement capabilities, some of these

natural movements that we all are born with the ability to perform. One of

those is a squat, so if you look at a baby that’s squatting down to pick up

something off the floor, they have great squat technique, which means that

they have good mobility and flexibility in their hips. They’re able to stabilize

their spine, keep their torso upright and so that’s something that we should

seek to achieve again as adults, or to maintain as adults.

So, primal movement patterns like squatting, lunging, bending, as if you’re

bending over to pick something up off the ground, reaching, climbing and

doing all these things in an attitude of play, not an attitude of hardship. Now,

not all exercise has to be fun, but it doesn’t have to be a drudgery. It doesn’t

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have to be a painful process. There should be something fun about what you

do because they’ve actually shown that people who just go out and play a

sport burn more calories than people who are sitting on a treadmill or running

on a treadmill.

So, there’s something about having fun, or at least enjoying some aspect of

what you do that seems to allow you to work harder, to get more out of it.

And it’s just psychologically more beneficial. You’re not punishing yourself

with exercise. You’re giving yourself pleasure with movement and natural

movement that fits in with the Paleo lifestyle.

Of course, if you want to run, if you want to lift weights, if you want to do

CrossFit, if you want to do all these things, these kind of standard exercise

modalities, by all means, do them, but enjoy them. Give yourself permission

to be relaxed about your exercise routine. So, if you miss a workout, it’s not

the end of the world. The sky is not falling. Just pick back up and get back

into the next day. If you feel like you’re a little burnt out and too tired, back it

off. It’s not worth it in the long-term to hurt yourself for the sake of getting a

personal record or running farther than you’ve ever run before.

We’re not all elite athletes who are sacrificing their long-term health for

professional purposes. If you’re getting paid millions of dollars for a sport,

sure. If you’re extremely, extremely motivated to get the most performance

you possibly can, get out of your body, and the consequences be damned, you

know what? Go for it, but for most of us, that’s not necessary.

What we’re trying to do is to improve our overall quality of life, improve our

enjoyment and within the context of the Paleo lifestyle, exercise should be just

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like food and all the other components, where it’s a natural expression of our

genetic potential. Move a lot, occasionally pick up some heavy things,

sometimes run faster than we normally do, aka sprinting. We want to

reestablish those natural movement patterns such as squatting and bending and

reaching, but we don’t want to kill ourselves in the process. We want to stay

alive and be as vibrant and as vigorous and to thrive as long as possible and

we want our exercise, which we’re now talking about as movement, to support

that and not detract from that.

That’s the piece on exercise. So, next time, we’re going to be talking about

the thing that many of us are not so good about and that’s getting enough

sleep. So, make sure you tune into Paleo Lifestyle 101 on the next episode of

the Paleo Magazine Radio podcasts.

All right, everybody. That’s going to do it for today’s episode of Paleo

Magazine Radio. Coming up next time on the podcast, the one and only

Michelle Tam, of Nom Nom Paleo. We’re also going to be talking about the

ever-important subject of sleep. I’m Tony Federico and on behalf of everyone

at Paleo Magazine, thank you for listening.

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