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1. Are you currently an enrolled member of the Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 89.8% 44

No 10.2% 5

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2. Please enter your Kiowa Enrollment Number (Information will not be used for

identification purposes):

Response

Count

32


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3. Do you believe that the Kiowa Constitution needs to be changed?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 78.1% 25

No 21.9% 7

Comment:

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4. Should the name Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma be changed to Kiowa Nation?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 48.6% 18

No 51.4% 19

Comment:

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5. Shall the Kiowa government be changed to a multi-branch system (checks and balances)

that includes executive, legislative, judicial, and Kiowa Nation Council?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 77.8% 28

No 22.2% 8

Comment:

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6. The quorum or number of eligible voting-age Kiowas who need to be in attendance at the

annual Kiowa/Tribal Council meeting to conduct business shall be:

Response

Percent

Response

Count

75 37.1% 13

125 22.9% 8

175 40.0% 14

Comment:

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7. Shall one of the constitutional powers of the Kiowa Nation Council be to set policy for the

Kiowa government?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 61.1% 22

No 38.9% 14

Comment:

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8. Shall elected Kiowa representatives be residents of a specific geographic/demographic

area, such as (1) the Hobart-Gotebo-Mountain View area, the (2) Lawton (Comanche

County) area, the (3) Carnegie area, the (4) Oklahoma City-Norman-Tulsa area, the (5)

Anadarko-Stecker-Apache-Ft. Cobb area, and (6) the Absentee Kiowas (such as those who

reside out of Oklahoma)?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 70.6% 24

No 29.4% 10

Comment:

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9. Shall minimum age requirements for elected district representatives (not Officers) be 25

years of age?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 68.6% 24

No 31.4% 11

Comment:

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10. Shall all elected Kiowa district representatives be required to have a high school

diploma or GED?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 86.1% 31

No 13.9% 5

Comment:

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11. Shall elected Kiowa Executive Officers be required to have a bachelor's or higher

degree from an accredited college? (Examples: Governor-Lieutenant Governor, President-

Vice President, Principal Chief-Sub Chief)

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 61.8% 21

NO 38.2% 13

Comment:

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12. Shall the position of Treasurer require a degree completed in Accounting, OR 5-year

work experience from a financial decision-making capacity within a corporation or civil

service?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 80.0% 28

No 20.0% 7

Comment:

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13. Shall terms of office for all Kiowa representatives be increased to four (4) years with

routine elections occurring every two years on a staggered basis?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 68.8% 22

No 31.3% 10

Comment:

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14. Shall Kiowa elections be changed to include a primary election and a run-off election, if

necessary?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 71.9% 23

No 28.1% 9

Comment:

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15. Shall Kiowas found guilty of a felony in a court of competent jurisdiction involving

misuse of money, dishonesty, a crime involving serious bodily injury or death, and/or sexual

misconduct?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Be eligible for elected Kiowa office

if the felony is 10 years or older?

(10-Year Option)

18.2% 6

Never be eligible for elected

Kiowa office (Never Eligible

Option)

81.8% 27

Comment:

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16. Shall the term of office from a special election called to fill a vacated position be

considered full-term, regardless of length?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 48.6% 17

NO 51.4% 18

Comment:

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17. Shall Kiowa district representatives be elected only by those Kiowa voters who reside

in the representative's district?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 45.7% 16

No 54.3% 19

Comment:

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18. Shall the Powers of the Kiowa Nation Council remain unchanged?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 28.6% 8

No 71.4% 20

Comment:

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19. Shall Kiowa Election Commission members be elected only by those Kiowa who reside

in the same geographic district as the candidate?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 32.4% 11

No 67.6% 23

Comment:

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20. Shall all elected Kiowa representatives be entitled to a salary?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 73.5% 25

No 26.5% 9

Comment:

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21. Shall a candidate for elected office be declared ineligible if an immediate family

member is already an elected Kiowa representative (Example: a brother, sister, mother,

father, or lineal grandparent) or a relative in the first degree (Example: first cousin, aunt, or

uncle)?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 66.7% 22

No 33.3% 11

Comment:

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22. Shall tribal members who live outside of Oklahoma be entitled to the same Legislative

representation as tribal members who live within the KCA reservation?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 88.2% 30

No 11.8% 4

Comment:

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23. Should the constitution specifically provide protections guaranteeing employees cannot

be terminated without proof of good cause?

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 84.4% 27

No 15.6% 5

Comment:

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24. Should the Tribe discharge an employee or seek retaliatory actions, such as "Whistle

Blowing," against an employee who makes public any information of misconduct by

officials/tribal leaders or employees of the Tribe.

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 12.9% 4

No 87.1% 27

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25. Should Tribal Member be entitled to review their personal records maintained by the

Kiowa Tribe/Nation which are not otherwise protected by the Privacy Act or other

Ordinances of the Tribe.

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 82.4% 28

No 17.6% 6

Comment:

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26. Should the Tribe not infringe upon the religious or cultural beliefs or prohibit the free

exercise thereof of tribal members, including the right to possess and use peyote for

religious purposes when used by members of the Native American Church.

Response

Percent

Response

Count

Yes 96.7% 29

No 3.3% 1

Comment:

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Page 1, Q2. Please enter your Kiowa Enrollment Number (Information will not be used for identificationpurposes):

1 KI1444 Oct 23, 2009 1:34 PM

2 ko-3050 Oct 3, 2009 10:42 PM

3 k06374 Sep 26, 2009 3:42 PM

4 K04825 Sep 23, 2009 3:43 PM

5 k04825 Sep 23, 2009 3:42 PM

6 K10337 Sep 23, 2009 4:27 AM

7 K04825 Sep 18, 2009 9:50 AM

8 k06374 Sep 18, 2009 6:08 AM

9 KO1677 Sep 16, 2009 9:57 AM

10 K07272 Sep 12, 2009 1:02 AM

11 KO1255 Sep 11, 2009 3:50 PM

12 k10201 Sep 11, 2009 2:24 PM

13 K01782 Sep 10, 2009 11:11 PM

14 ko1630 Sep 10, 2009 7:30 PM

15 K00627 Sep 10, 2009 9:11 AM

16 KO6420 Sep 9, 2009 9:26 PM

17 ko2371 Sep 9, 2009 8:59 AM

18 K13118 Sep 8, 2009 10:16 AM

19 K0 0716 Sep 8, 2009 10:16 AM

20 K06922 Sep 8, 2009 9:22 AM

21 KO1670 Sep 8, 2009 4:30 AM

22 K01487 Sep 7, 2009 9:59 AM

23 KO9849 Sep 7, 2009 9:01 AM

24 00709 Sep 5, 2009 8:52 AM

25 3890 Sep 5, 2009 4:20 AM

26 KO7429 Sep 4, 2009 7:27 PM

27 k00716 Sep 4, 2009 3:46 PM

28 koo17 Sep 4, 2009 3:28 PM

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Page 1, Q2. Please enter your Kiowa Enrollment Number (Information will not be used for identificationpurposes):

29 K09870 Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM

30 K01746 Sep 4, 2009 1:14 PM

31 k07397 Sep 4, 2009 12:22 PM

32 KO9876 Sep 1, 2009 2:48 PM

Page 2, Q1. Do you believe that the Kiowa Constitution needs to be changed?

1 It was designed to function as a corporate board not a governing body of thetribe.

Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM

2 needs to be updated Oct 6, 2009 8:54 PM

3 unsure. question too broad. Sep 26, 2009 3:48 PM

4 some of the laws and by-laws are out-dated Sep 20, 2009 9:59 AM

5 This is a broad question. In what way? Tribal members, who want one, shouldbe given a copy of the constitution in order to form an opinion about whether theconstitution needs revision. Most probably haven't ever read it.

Sep 18, 2009 11:14 AM

6 Don't know enough on the constitution to make educated comments on the needfor change. Can enrolled members get copies of the constitution?

Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM

7 But only thru the amendment process...which will strengthen and close thoseloopholes that are presently being used against tribal members.

Sep 15, 2009 6:27 PM

8 We voted a revision not a total re-write. There are elements that need to beadjusted in light of the recognition of sovereignty and our limited sovereignty.

Sep 12, 2009 1:09 AM

9 It was written many years ago for that era and now, there are a lot of new laws ineffect that need to be reflected in our new constitution.

Sep 11, 2009 2:31 PM

10 It is outdated. Also it puts far too much power in the hearing board. The hearingboard has the final say on things. You should always have a way to appeal aruling.

Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM

11 It needs to be dissolved, and a new one drawn up. Sep 8, 2009 4:34 AM

12 Especially in regard to the blood quantum. As it is now my grandchildren willlikely not be enrolled members of the tribe. Changes are warranted to reflect thecontext of our times now in order to help preserve our tribe and culture.

Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM

13 Amended, perhaps. Total revision? NO Sep 4, 2009 7:34 PM

14 It was made for a reason and reasons known. I do not believe that anyoneshould be allowed to revise or have that power too.

Sep 4, 2009 3:35 PM

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Page 2, Q1. Do you believe that the Kiowa Constitution needs to be changed?

15 not so muched changed, but revisited and updated with provisions to todaysgovernment.

Sep 4, 2009 12:25 PM

16 It is outdated and needs to be totally revised Sep 1, 2009 2:49 PM

Page 2, Q2. Should the name Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma be changed to Kiowa Nation?

1 ???? Not sure. Nation connotes sovereign status but we have sovereign statuseither way.

Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM

2 sounds good Oct 6, 2009 8:54 PM

3 It should be changed to Cauigu (Khoiyegoo) because that is our current Kiowaword for ourselves. However Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma is fine as long as we donthave to spend the little money we have to pay for new letter heads. Nation isjust an English word and means very little to me as a Kiowa person. Mexico iscalled Mexico, Not Mexico Nation. Canada is not called Canada Nation. theyare nations none the less. Again if we were to change our name it should be ourown word (Cauigu / Khoiyegoo)

Sep 23, 2009 4:32 AM

4 that's not necessary Sep 20, 2009 9:59 AM

5 I think the term Nation should be adopted because the term is associated withsovereign rights. Its a more respected term than "tribe".

Sep 18, 2009 11:14 AM

6 I like the name of the tribe as it is. Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM

7 Not really sure, I'm use to the Kiowa Tribe, but it does have a Modern ring to it. Sep 11, 2009 2:31 PM

8 Why change our tribal name? Just because others tribes have. We are alreadyrecognized as a Nation within a Nation no need to change our Identity as aTribe.

Sep 10, 2009 11:23 PM

9 We aren't a nation. We are have sovereign entity, but we still depend on thegovernment for too many grants and programs. Until we are totally dependent,then I don't consider us a nation.

Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM

10 I feel that the Kiowa's should be known as a nation, and not of indigenousclassification. Zulu's are tribes, we are one of many nations w/n a nation.

Sep 8, 2009 4:34 AM

11 We're not a nation. We are sovereign in some things, but we still depend on theU.S. for funding in several areas.

Sep 4, 2009 3:50 PM

12 For what! That is jus another form of wanting power. The kiowa tribe is the kiowatribe

Sep 4, 2009 3:35 PM

13 Actually I would like to see us go back to our language. Cauigu is who we reallyare.

Sep 1, 2009 2:49 PM

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Page 2, Q3. Shall the Kiowa government be changed to a multi-branch system (checks and balances) thatincludes executive, legislative, judicial, and Kiowa Nation Council?

1 There should not be FOUR branches of government. That would be anightmare. You should consider making the KNC (or KIC) a part of a bi-camerallegislative body. The elected legislatures would have power to make lawsconsistent with their authority, & the KNC meet twice a yr with authority to call forany law passed by the legislators to a vote of the KNC (either on the floor of yheKNC or by tribal election.

Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM

2 by all means Oct 6, 2009 8:54 PM

3 There definitely needs to be more checks and balances. Sep 26, 2009 3:48 PM

4 The government definitely needs more transparency. Sep 18, 2009 11:14 AM

5 From living on other reservations, I would say yes there needs to be oversite. Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM

6 Not unless there are funds available to do it right....not hi-gah-hain style - as thispresent KBC and KCRC are trying to push thru...!

Sep 15, 2009 6:27 PM

7 T Sep 12, 2009 1:09 AM

8 This would ensure that issues and monies would be checked and rechecked.Our people and name as Kiowas are at stake, protect it/them.

Sep 11, 2009 2:31 PM

9 Yes I believe there should be checks and balances watching over the KiowaTribal Government Officials in office to ensure that officials are upholding theirOATH OF OFFICE and not over exerting authority and making sure the bestinterest of the KIOWA PEOPLE are being implemented and not for personalreasons or personal gain.

Sep 10, 2009 11:23 PM

10 any form of government should have checks and balances. no one personshould be able to spend our money or get money without it being approved bythe majority

Sep 10, 2009 11:32 AM

11 Only if it is set up like the United States government. Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM

12 I think this would help tremendously. Sep 7, 2009 10:01 AM

13 Strongly agree with this statement. Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM

14 That depends on the manner of selection, designated powers, terms of service,oversight, methods of recourse and appeal.

Sep 4, 2009 7:34 PM

15 The rules on who can or cannot serve on the hearing board is outdated. Wekeep getting old people who are set in their ways and not open to new things.Also their should always be a way to appeal a ruling. No more the hearing boardhas the final say!

Sep 4, 2009 3:50 PM

16 As said before, monies are slipping therough now. Sep 4, 2009 3:35 PM

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Page 2, Q4. The quorum or number of eligible voting-age Kiowas who need to be in attendance at the annualKiowa/Tribal Council meeting to conduct business shall be:

1 Depends on what kind of decisions can be made. Oct 23, 2009 2:22 PM

2 depends on how many wil show up after a series of meetings Oct 6, 2009 8:54 PM

3 Currently, what is the minimum number that constitutes a quorum right now?That info needs to be included in this question so people can make an informeddecision. The selections are: 75, 125, and 175; what are these numbers basedon? Right now, too many important decisions are made with only a consensusof a small group of people.

Sep 26, 2009 3:48 PM

4 I do not know how many people actually go to the meetings but i do know notvery many young people are involved. If we set our quorum too high things maynot get done because we do not meet quorum.

Sep 23, 2009 4:32 AM

5 at least Sep 20, 2009 9:59 AM

6 Need to know how many Tribal members there are and a percentage can beindicated. In other Tribes, issues can be voted on by mail, you don't have to beat the meeting to vote.

Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM

7 If the Kiowa Tribal membership realizes just how important it is to attend thatsemi-annual KIC Meeting...then maybe the 75 is wrong...as it is, we barely getat least 50 members now.

Sep 15, 2009 6:27 PM

8 lack of fair representation, is misrepresentation Sep 12, 2009 1:09 AM

9 Find a way, such as this email survey, to let our people know that there is goingto be meetings. Find their/our mailing addresses and get letters to them. Forma committee that strictly is for contacting the Kiowa people and making them/usaware of what is going on at our complex and with our futures.

Sep 11, 2009 2:31 PM

10 No this is not needed as it was stated by Judge Lujan in the CFR Court on July7, 2009 as long as there is 1 KIC Member in the audience that constitutes aQUORUM of the KIC. Why change this to a specific number of attendees whenthey don't show up now? If tribal members were interested in attending theywould and should be there. If it is changed then you would never have enoughmembers in attendance to make a QUORUM and then there would be nomeetings of the KIC whatsoever.

Sep 10, 2009 11:23 PM

11 With thousands of tribal members, we Should have more participation from thepeople

Sep 9, 2009 1:12 PM

12 It actually needs to be more, but you know that will never happen. The only wayis if you have the council meeting while they are giving out the elder payments.

Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM

13 The higher the number the more likely the attendance will be (not just Carnegie,and the surrounding communities) because there needs to be more of an activeaudience to discuss a nation views and issues.

Sep 8, 2009 4:34 AM

14 It is difficult to get people to vote which makes changes that need to be mademore difficult to happen. If the quorum number was lowered then it might helpaddress this issue.

Sep 7, 2009 9:05 AM

15 What is meant by conduct business? We can't vote off the floor, only by ballot. Sep 5, 2009 8:55 AM

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Page 2, Q4. The quorum or number of eligible voting-age Kiowas who need to be in attendance at the annualKiowa/Tribal Council meeting to conduct business shall be:

16 Again, that depends on the total number of citizens and how the meetings arecalled.

Sep 4, 2009 7:34 PM

17 It should actually be more, but try to find that many Kiowas interested in going toa council meeting.

Sep 4, 2009 3:50 PM

Page 2, Q5. Shall one of the constitutional powers of the Kiowa Nation Council be to set policy for the Kiowagovernment?

1 Legislative Branch Oct 6, 2009 8:54 PM

2 What is the "kiowa nation council"? Is that a new term we adopted for acommittee that already exists or is it a new council? Is it the legislative branch ofthe proposed government structure?

Sep 18, 2009 11:14 AM

3 not at this time. Sep 16, 2009 10:04 AM

4 I thought that POWER was already in place....under the Power clause...?? It isjust that every KBC chooses to ignore it.

Sep 15, 2009 6:27 PM

5 By what authority and what is the basis of their reasoning? Sep 12, 2009 1:09 AM

6 Yes, there needs to be policy and procedures implemented so that the KBCmust follow just like any other entity in order for them not to be allowed to overstep their boundaries. They are now being paid a salary therefore, they needJob Descriptions in place as well just like employees.

Sep 10, 2009 11:23 PM

7 This should be decided by a vote Sep 9, 2009 1:12 PM

8 Again only if they adhere to it. How many issues and such have been passed bythe KIC and they still aren't enforced?

Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM

9 Setting policy is too vague, and would lead to perpetual conflict with electedleaders.

Sep 5, 2009 4:21 AM

10 Ultimate authority should rest with the Kiowa citizenry. Sep 4, 2009 7:34 PM

11 Only if you have a major number of people voting and not just a few members. Sep 4, 2009 3:50 PM

12 Its working fine now, more power more money for what! Sep 4, 2009 3:35 PM

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Page 3, Q1. Shall elected Kiowa representatives be residents of a specific geographic/demographic area, such as(1) the Hobart-Gotebo-Mountain View area, the (2) Lawton (Comanche County) area, the (3) Carnegie area, the (4)Oklahoma City-Norman-Tulsa area, the (5) Anadarko-Stecker-Apache-Ft. Cobb area, and (...

1 I would consider a formula based on population as to how many reps shouldeach district have, or consider two reps from each district. 6 is too small for alegislative body. Your elected officers should NOT be a part of the legislativebody unless you make the Vice Chair to preside over the Legislature WITHOUTVOTE and Secretary would be elected to serve the KNC. Remember, the USdoes not elect a Secretary.

Oct 23, 2009 2:38 PM

2 yes, but all should be eligible Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM

3 Definitely a wider range of representation of demographics should be included.4) Oklahoma City/Norman metro area should be its own. Tulsa might beconsidered part of group 6 (absentee) depending on the percentage of tribalmembers that reside in that area.

Sep 26, 2009 4:02 PM

4 they should know their area better than someone else that doesnt live there orhasnt lived there

Sep 20, 2009 10:03 AM

5 More representation, more fairness for all. Sep 16, 2009 10:08 AM

6 Mainly, because the Kiowa tribal membership are spread out....all over theNation.

Sep 15, 2009 6:31 PM

7 Our people are still nomadic and are moving out to other regins. We are stillenrolled Kiowas and need to be represented by

Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM

8 It's not needed. The KBC are the duly elected tribal officials to represent allKIOWAS'. There is no need to split us up anymore than they way Kiowa Peoplealready think. It just will cause more jealously within the Towns. They alreadydon't like each other example Anadarko Kiowas vs Carnegie Kiowas. I know youall know what I'm talking about. You've heard this as well as me.

Sep 10, 2009 11:34 PM

9 Again should be like the US govt. If more Kiowas reside in this area, then theyshould have more representatives.

Sep 8, 2009 10:22 AM

10 This would also be a big step to involve Kiowas that do not live in Andadarko,Carnegie area and bring in ideas and opinions that would serve all Kiowas.

Sep 7, 2009 10:06 AM

11 When you say Kiowa representatives, does this mean the Kiowa BusinessCommittee Members, or just tribal council members who's duties will be what?

Sep 5, 2009 9:01 AM

12 I'd consider some other means of division since some, who live in one area maywant to affiliate with their home area or area where their family was originallyfrom. Give people a choice as to what area or division that they want to affiliatewith or have no geographic provision at all. You might have 2 very goodcandidates from one area and this rule would prevent 2 good candidates fromboth being able to run. I;d be against "districts" per se.

Sep 5, 2009 4:35 AM

13 The representatives should mirror the traditional clan system of the Kiowa. Sep 4, 2009 7:37 PM

14 It should be based on the number of Kiowa in that area. Base it on the House ofRepresentatives. More reps for an area with more Kiowas.

Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM

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Page 3, Q2. Shall minimum age requirements for elected district representatives (not Officers) be 25 years ofage?

1 21 Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM

2 A little younger may be better, especially if we want the younger generation toget experience with our government.

Sep 23, 2009 4:40 AM

3 Discriminates against young leaders who may have obtained college degrees. Sep 16, 2009 10:08 AM

4 what is the basis of the reasoning? Sep 12, 2009 1:14 AM

5 The younger people have a more modern view of what is going on in society andare more educated. They should be allowed to represent and should be collegeeducated before being placed in that district representative spot.

Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM

6 Legal age to vote in accordance to the KIOWA CONSTITUTION states 18 yearsor older. Therefore, 18 year olds should be eligible to run as well.

Sep 10, 2009 11:34 PM

7 There should never be an age requirement for any office or board. Sep 8, 2009 10:22 AM

8 18 Sep 8, 2009 4:38 AM

9 21 and with some type of education. Sep 5, 2009 9:01 AM

10 35 Sep 4, 2009 7:37 PM

11 We have bright and educated Kiowas. Nothing should be based on age. Nomore age limitations.

Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM

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Page 3, Q3. Shall all elected Kiowa district representatives be required to have a high school diploma or GED?

1 education is important Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM

2 Absouletly Oct 3, 2009 10:43 PM

3 Yes, as a basic requirement. I'd prefer our reps to have at least a bachelordegree. Kiowas do not have a shortage of qualified, highly-educated members.We need to utilize those individuals. If a higher standards for candidacy isapplied, potential candidates would have more confidence in the potential,ability, and vision of the committee/council.

Sep 26, 2009 4:02 PM

4 yes, in this day and age, an education is much more important to the knowledgeand skills that a government needs to have. many of the elders that have passedon have really expressed the need for a good education. they saw that it wasimportant

Sep 20, 2009 10:03 AM

5 At the very least they should have this basic level of education. Sep 16, 2009 10:08 AM

6 They really should have some level of College education. Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM

7 If the constitution is revised to allow this district representative which I'm againstthen yes they should have either HSDegree or GED then also depending ontheir duties, power or authority they should have a College Degree too.

Sep 10, 2009 11:34 PM

8 I know many educated people who don't have any common sense. And some ofthe brightest and smartest people don't necessarily have a degree.

Sep 8, 2009 10:22 AM

9 Knowledge is important to lead people. Sep 8, 2009 4:38 AM

10 Education is crucial to keep the Tribe moving in a forward positive direction. Sep 7, 2009 10:06 AM

11 Anybody knows that life experiences are sometimes more valuable thaneducation. I know a lot of people with educations, but they have zero commonsense.

Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM

12 Yes of course! Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM

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Page 3, Q4. Shall elected Kiowa Executive Officers be required to have a bachelor's or higher degree from anaccredited college? (Examples: Governor-Lieutenant Governor, President-Vice President, Principal Chief-SubChief)

1 both yes and no, both areas have qualified people Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM

2 Absolutely! Sep 26, 2009 4:02 PM

3 I'd be more at ease as a Citizen of the Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma knowing that allmy elected officers are college graduates. You just learn a lot more about thisactivity when in college.

Sep 23, 2009 4:40 AM

4 Same as above, it's very important to have someone in a higher position to havea well-rounded education.

Sep 20, 2009 10:03 AM

5 "Ever learning, but never coming to a knowledge of the truth." They should beethical,with a length of office that would allow the checks and balances of'workable time frames' to come into play.

Sep 12, 2009 1:14 AM

6 A must!!!! Sep 11, 2009 2:40 PM

7 Yes they should and also have had some training in Tribal Government Classestoo. Or Newly elected officers should be required to take a class or training inTribal Government, Tribal Law, Ordinances etc.

Sep 10, 2009 11:34 PM

8 Again an emphatic no. Same reason as number 4. Sep 8, 2009 10:22 AM

9 However, they must have at least a high school diploma. There are capableindividuals to lead a people's just by common sense.

Sep 8, 2009 4:38 AM

10 If feasible Sep 7, 2009 9:06 AM

11 Are we going to do away with the present Chairman, Vice, Secretary, Treasurer& 4 business committee members?

Sep 5, 2009 9:01 AM

12 but this could shut out some good leaders who have not finished their degrees. Sep 5, 2009 4:35 AM

13 Same people will be running our tribe forever. Most Kiowas with educationsaren't around here.

Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM

14 that or yrs with experience Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM

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Page 3, Q5. Shall the position of Treasurer require a degree completed in Accounting, OR 5-year work experiencefrom a financial decision-making capacity within a corporation or civil service?

1 knowledge and work experience is important Oct 6, 2009 8:56 PM

2 The Treasurer should have a degree in Accounting AND work experience in thefield. Work experience is not a substitute for educational training.

Sep 26, 2009 4:02 PM

3 With the amount of "embezzlement" you hear from our tribal Treasurers, I think itwould be a good idea, however, how many Kiowa Accounting Majors do wereally have?

Sep 23, 2009 4:40 AM

4 Of course, finance skills and knowledge of current standards is a must! Sep 20, 2009 10:03 AM

5 That would be real nice...in the real world...but, that kind of person hasn't comeabout....yet. If a HONEST - Tribal member can read and write and have somecommon sense...and add least know how to count...that should be enough....!

Sep 15, 2009 6:31 PM

6 Bachelors Degree or Higher with at least 2 years work experience in TribalGovernment Financial Accounting or Tribal Entity Financial Offices.

Sep 10, 2009 11:34 PM

7 Again no. Sep 8, 2009 10:22 AM

8 At least 12 hours or accounting or the equivalent in experience andrecommendation from outside sources.

Sep 8, 2009 4:38 AM

9 Do not necessarily agree their degree has to be in accounting. Any degree andsolid work experience would suffice.

Sep 7, 2009 10:06 AM

10 If feasible Sep 7, 2009 9:06 AM

11 and be bonded, and with a thorough background check. Sep 5, 2009 9:01 AM

12 They need some kind of accounting background. Again common sense is morevaluable than education.

Sep 4, 2009 3:58 PM

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Page 4, Q1. Shall terms of office for all Kiowa representatives be increased to four (4) years with routine electionsoccurring every two years on a staggered basis?

1 elected two years at a time staggered Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 A four year term is too long. If the reps are doing well in their positions and areeffective, they will not have any problems getting re-elected.

Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 but if they prove to be inept, then they need to be removed before their time is up Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 The Tribe needs to be able to utilize governmental 'time frames' and nothing getsresearched or followed through on in 2 years.

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 The more time that our representatives have, allows them to show more resultsand prove that they are working for us. More time in office allows them to applytheir ideas.

Sep 11, 2009 2:48 PM

6 No way! The way the elections have been going. We can't afford to have thesame people in that long.

Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

7 if someone is really awful at the job 4 years is a long time to wait to get someonenew.

Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

8 3 year term Sep 4, 2009 2:03 PM

Page 4, Q2. Shall Kiowa elections be changed to include a primary election and a run-off election, if necessary?

1 only on executive officers Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 Doesn't seem necessary. Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 thats not necessary. but if a run-off election is necessary, then it should happen Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 That takes a foundation of funding and the Tribe does not have a structures ofmanagement already in play to support it.

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 Only if there are several people running for thee same elected position. Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

6 Yes, so that it does not make potential elections ambiguous to the kiowa people. Sep 8, 2009 4:48 AM

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Page 4, Q3. Shall Kiowas found guilty of a felony in a court of competent jurisdiction involving misuse of money,dishonesty, a crime involving serious bodily injury or death, and/or sexual misconduct?

1 felonies are serious Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 NEVER. Our standards are too low as it is. We certainly have manyoutstanding Kiowas who can fill these vital positions who have not beenconvicted of a felony!

Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 i know some can be changed, but in a higher government position, stress canhappen and who knows what will happen if someone regresses

Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 "Competent jurisdiction"? Define it. We have no court system, and the court ofindian offenses does not cover the needs the Kiowas currently have. You wouldhave to restate the question.

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 But only as a representative not as an officer Sep 9, 2009 1:17 PM

6 Why ten years? Is that how long it takes for their horns to disappear or weardown?

Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

7 Unless it is specifically related to the job description itself, most have paidsociety for their crimes against society, so it would be ok to lead a country. BillClinton received sexual favors from an intern, he still managed to keep his job.His "blow job" did not have relation to running a country. Think about it.However, if a felon must sign on a bank account, then no it would not be right forsomeone found guilty of embezzling deal with cash flows, etc.

Sep 8, 2009 4:48 AM

8 Nope sorry, if they were convicted in a court, there was substantial evidencethey were guilty. While I believe in rehabilitation, I believe it is a rarity not therule.

Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

9 Need to clarify what is meant by dishonesty - perjury? bad check, etc? Sep 5, 2009 4:38 AM

10 that already exists in the constitution Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

Page 4, Q4. Shall the term of office from a special election called to fill a vacated position be considered full-term,regardless of length?

1 only to finish said term Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 no, it should be in accordance with the remainder of the term of the person whowas removed. The regularly scheduled elections will determine when termsbegin and end.

Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 until someone permanent can fill the seat Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 too subjective Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 If they are filling a position, the term should only be as long as the position wasoriginally set.

Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

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Page 4, Q5. Shall Kiowa district representatives be elected only by those Kiowa voters who reside in therepresentative's district?

1 exception-absentee voters Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 since the candidate will be representing their own district, it should be votedupon by Kiowas in that district.

Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 some folks live in other states and that would be hard; it would make it unworthyto even vote if this has a restriction

Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 read my lips....NO District REPRESENTATIVES..!! Sep 15, 2009 6:35 PM

5 Seriously, is this question being asked in reflection of the current geographics ofthe voting Kiowa public? Clarify.

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

6 People move and we as Kiowas should be allowed to elect all that are running. Sep 11, 2009 2:48 PM

7 Sure, then they would better know the character and qualifications of the electedperson.

Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

8 Yes to keep it fair, otherwise the election could be influenced by only those withfriends and family in another district and defeat the purpose of having area reps.

Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

9 I disagree with the district system. We should have a traditional clan system ofrepresentation.

Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

Page 4, Q6. Shall the Powers of the Kiowa Nation Council remain unchanged?

1 should be determined by vote Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 ? question too broad. Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 I'm sure there are some changes to be made there. Sep 23, 2009 5:04 AM

4 i have no idea, wierd question Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

5 don't know enough of the current powers. also why do you keep refering to usas the Kiowa Nation?

Sep 16, 2009 10:16 AM

6 They only need to be enforced. Sep 15, 2009 6:35 PM

7 Too broad and undefined. Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

8 Everything needs revision. Laws and times change, so should the Powers. Sep 11, 2009 2:48 PM

9 I am undecided really as I would like to re-read over this area again. Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

10 They should be specifically described to avoid conflict with other branches. Sep 5, 2009 4:38 AM

11 They should be increased. Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

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Page 4, Q7. Shall Kiowa Election Commission members be elected only by those Kiowa who reside in the samegeographic district as the candidate?

1 need to know the candidate Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 ? Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 Same reason as above. Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

4 The question is redundant. Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

Page 4, Q8. Shall all elected Kiowa representatives be entitled to a salary?

1 they will give more attention to office Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 No. A stipend for necessary travel and per diem is more appropriate. The dutiesof the office should determine this question.

Sep 26, 2009 4:13 PM

3 what kind of question is this? if you vote for someone to work in a governmentposition, why wouldn't you want to provide a salary?

Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 Taro laws? Tribal employees? Accountability? Insurability of Kiowa businessconcerns against "employee theft or damage"? Bondability? Legal implicationsand considerations? Sovereign immunity?" What is the intent of the question?"

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 If you have a college education and are using it to help our people, one shouldbe compensated for doing so.

Sep 11, 2009 2:48 PM

6 But only if the tribe can afford it Sep 9, 2009 1:17 PM

7 Only if they adhere to basic personnel policies involving attendance. Don't paysomeone who isn't coming in to work.

Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

8 Compensatable, but not extravagant. Sep 8, 2009 4:48 AM

9 Something to help with travel expenses and as an incentive to remain involvedand active.

Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

10 We salary the KBC members now. What do they do to earn it? Do they clockin? Are they there from 8:00 to 4:30PM? Are they still getting mileage and perdiem?

Sep 5, 2009 9:23 AM

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Page 4, Q9. Shall a candidate for elected office be declared ineligible if an immediate family member is already anelected Kiowa representative (Example: a brother, sister, mother, father, or lineal grandparent) or a relative in thefirst degree (Example: first cousin, aunt, or uncle)?

1 could cause conflict of inter-favoritism Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 If they are good for the job then they are good for the job. Again brother, sister,mother, father, first cousin, aunt, uncle are just english terms. In Kiowa we knowwe have lots of "brothers" "sisters" "mothers" etc. Most of us are related toothers.

Sep 23, 2009 5:04 AM

3 this is a hard question, kiowas are related to many people. and, some folkscause division. and some can do a damn good job.

Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 Tribe? Two separate questions. Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

5 don't forget the niece, nephew either. Sep 10, 2009 11:45 PM

6 Are you kidding me? Aren't we all related somewhere down the line? Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

7 My argument would be that if it did occur, the people are the ones that electedthese individuals. They did not do this directly themselves.

Sep 8, 2009 4:48 AM

8 I don't think this should be an immediate cause for not being elected, but is anarea to cause concern. It should be noted and have an Ethics Commiteeassigned to review these situations on a case by case basis.

Sep 7, 2009 10:18 AM

9 You might have 2 strong candidates who are related. This rule would preventmore than 1 person running who were related which has not been a problem inthe past. Why shut out someone for no fault of their own, as it seems that weshould have a more inclusive system not one that excludes candidate eligibility.

Sep 5, 2009 4:38 AM

10 Again, I advocate for the clan system of representation. Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

11 that's a difficult decision. most kiowas are related some how. Sep 4, 2009 12:32 PM

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Page 4, Q10. Shall tribal members who live outside of Oklahoma be entitled to the same Legislativerepresentation as tribal members who live within the KCA reservation?

1 vote only Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM

2 I cannot answer this question. are we talking of people within the KCA"reservation" or within the state of Oklahoma. I currently live in Norman which isoutside the KCA reservation. Rewrite this question because it does not apply toone who is a tribal member living in the state who lives outside the KCAreservation.

Sep 23, 2009 5:04 AM

3 there should be a representative for those outside folks Sep 20, 2009 10:12 AM

4 OF COURSE..!! Sep 15, 2009 6:35 PM

5 That is BIA jargon. Really? Civil Rights do come into play, even for Kiowas.How can we disagree with the selling of Ft Sill if we just continue to use it as the"play book"?

Sep 12, 2009 1:25 AM

6 Forced Assimilation and the increased Kiowas with Higher Educations, do moveoutside of Oklahoma. We are still Kiowa.

Sep 11, 2009 2:48 PM

7 If it is changed then yes they would need one in their areas. This is all kindacrazy to change to represenation because not all KIOWAS live in the samestates. You need to look at it like this. Are you gonna have representation forthem by each state or district of the state, town they reside in? You'll have somany reps. all over the US. Besides as I said earlier, the KBC is ourrepresentation on issues, concerns and should listen to the people with problemsand try to ensure they are being treated correctly and properly in accordance toguidelines in place with programs. I myself, appreciated being able to go to thecurrent KBC with my issues, informing them and they listen to mycomplaint/appeal new it was'nt handled properly and made recommendation toto correct a wrong. AHO!

Sep 10, 2009 11:45 PM

8 Again it depends on the census count. Sep 8, 2009 10:30 AM

9 Of course, of the people, by the people, and for the people. Harmony, solidarity,and collectivism traits.

Sep 8, 2009 4:48 AM

10 Given that a great number of Kiowa must seek employment outside Oklahoma, itis unfair to exclude them.

Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM

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Page 5, Q1. Should the constitution specifically provide protections guaranteeing employees cannot beterminated without proof of good cause?

1 eliminates pressure from others Oct 6, 2009 9:00 PM

2 Termination of employees is based on their specific job evaluations, not theconstitution.

Sep 26, 2009 4:36 PM

3 shouel be outlined in the personnel policies of the tribe. Sep 16, 2009 10:19 AM

4 Are we asking if the Tribe should follow Taro? Be more specific. Sep 12, 2009 1:29 AM

5 To many Recalls. This would/may give justification. Sep 11, 2009 2:52 PM

6 After what happened to the Kiowa Gaming Commissions' Staff this year Yes!This should also be revised in all Kiowa Entities Personnel Handbook to protectthe employee if it is unjust, undocumented or not warranted. Tribal politics canbe a killer and not good for employees. They should not be in fear of losing theirjob once new officials take office or re-appointed.

Sep 10, 2009 11:53 PM

7 Just enforce the personnel policies and this will not be a problem. Sep 8, 2009 10:32 AM

8 Isn't this in effect now? But whenever a new business committee comes in theyalmost always clean house. This is a good idea, if it can be enforced.

Sep 5, 2009 9:26 AM

9 This could lead to all kinds of problems and poor employees being kept whenthey are not performing their job. A personnel policy would accomplish the samething. Who is to say what "good cause" is anyway? This would lead to unendingconflict and battles over whether someone was properly terminated.

Sep 5, 2009 4:40 AM

10 Employment issues should not be a part of the constitution. Perhaps, a nill ofrights is more appropriate.

Sep 4, 2009 7:47 PM

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Page 5, Q2. Should the Tribe discharge an employee or seek retaliatory actions, such as "WhistleBlowing," against an employee who makes public any information of misconduct by officials/tribal leadersor employees of the Tribe.

1 only if there is proof Oct 6, 2009 9:00 PM

2 absolutely now. If it weren't for people who stand up for what is right, thingswould never change. The tribe should have protections for people who reportmisconduct, so they don't fear/suffer from retaliation. Misconduct is whatcontinues to keep our tribe from progressing.

Sep 26, 2009 4:36 PM

3 because, sometimes actions get done when it goes public. But, if this individualcontinues to leak out more information once a matter has been settled, thendisciplinary actions might need to take place

Sep 20, 2009 10:19 AM

4 it woudl depend on the information and how obtained. Did the employee havethe understanding that some information is considered private and not for publicuse or convey information for the best of the tribe?

Sep 16, 2009 10:19 AM

5 Very unprofessional question. What are you asking? Sep 12, 2009 1:29 AM

6 Depends on what is being "whistle Blown" against. If something is detrimental toour people, it should be pointed out and taken care of.

Sep 11, 2009 2:52 PM

7 officials, tribal leaders and employees of the Tribe and other Tribal Entitiesshould be looking out for the best interest of the Tribe and the Kiowa People.Therefore, if an employee knows of any miscondut and knows that it is wrongthey should feel safe in knowing that if they disclose the information publicly or toother tribal officials that they will not lose their job.

Sep 10, 2009 11:53 PM

8 Only if the tribe is looking to go to the supreme court again in a court case. Sep 8, 2009 10:32 AM

9 If I am reading this question correctly? No there should be a "whistle blowing"protection policy for employees that do report misconduct. Again an EthicsCommittee should be in place to review and rule on these type of issues.

Sep 7, 2009 10:22 AM

10 WHAT!!! They should be commended for whistle blowing on an official/triballeader or employee for misconduct or wrong doing. Why would you want to keepsomething like this a secret?

Sep 5, 2009 9:26 AM

11 The constitution is not the appopriate vehicle for labor issues. Sep 4, 2009 7:47 PM

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Page 5, Q3. Should Tribal Member be entitled to review their personal records maintained by the KiowaTribe/Nation which are not otherwise protected by the Privacy Act or other Ordinances of the Tribe.

1 only the powers that be Oct 6, 2009 9:00 PM

2 Yes. records not protected by the Privacy Act or other ordinances of the tribeshould be transparent and open for review.

Sep 26, 2009 4:36 PM

3 All people have the right to view what is on their record no matter where youwork at.

Sep 20, 2009 10:19 AM

4 Caution, each Kiowa still has individual rights. Sep 12, 2009 1:29 AM

5 Makes sure their records are being updated and corrected, if needed. Sep 11, 2009 2:52 PM

6 and should be able to get copies made of the information as well if needed. Sep 10, 2009 11:53 PM

7 Only their own. Sep 8, 2009 10:32 AM

8 Could be something untrue or damaging in there. Sep 5, 2009 9:26 AM

Page 5, Q4. Should the Tribe not infringe upon the religious or cultural beliefs or prohibit the free exercise thereofof tribal members, including the right to possess and use peyote for religious purposes when used by membersof the Native American Church.

1 religion and tribal customs should be observed Oct 6, 2009 9:00 PM

2 this question is worded where it is unclear & confusing. Sep 26, 2009 4:36 PM

3 I believe there was a case involving the Sun Dance in the 90's. I also knowthere has been history of our people disagreeing over religion such as SunDance, Ghost Dance, Peyote, Christianity, the Bundles, and even smaller familydoings. some of these are not around because a few of our people did notbelieve we should practice it as well as the U.S. government saying we cannotdo this. I do not think it is right when I have been taught by our people that I canchoose to worship as I want as long as I believe in one "god", yet they can hold acase against someone (i.e. the Sun Dance incident) saying that we can't worshipthat way. It is hypocritical and We as Kiowa people have been known to worshipin many ways. Hopefully our Kiowa government will never have that type ofpower. Kiowa government is not exactly our old traditional form of governmentso in that case they should not have a say. Basically let the Christians,Peyotists, Bundle Keepers, and others do what they need to do and the Kiowagovernment should stay out of their business unless they are there to help. I feelstrongly about this issue.

Sep 23, 2009 5:19 AM

4 Since when did this become the tribes responibility...Back Off...! Sep 15, 2009 6:37 PM

5 Individual rights and the free agency of each individual is there God given right.To act and choose for oneself, to be self directed, to be a contributor to the'whole' The Tribe, is not an ambiguous figure head, it is made up of thecollective governing group. Never an infallible situation.

Sep 12, 2009 1:29 AM

6 This is one of those inalienable rights. Sep 8, 2009 10:32 AM

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Page 5, Q4. Should the Tribe not infringe upon the religious or cultural beliefs or prohibit the free exercise thereofof tribal members, including the right to possess and use peyote for religious purposes when used by membersof the Native American Church.

7 The Tribe should not infringe on these religious rights or beliefs. Sep 7, 2009 10:22 AM

8 The question is not worded well. The constitution should address broad civilrights issues.

Sep 4, 2009 7:47 PM

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