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NEW ENGLAND TABLELANDS
COMMUNITY WIND FARM STUDY
MAY 2011
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TABLEOF CONTENTS
Armidale Community Forum....................... ................. .................. .................. ................. .................. ................. ......... .... 5Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ............ ...... ..... ... 5
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................. ...... ..... . 7
Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 10
Next Steps........................ .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... ................ ..... ..... 11
Uralla Community Forum........................ ................. .................. ................. .................. ................. .................. ....... ...... .... 13Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ...... 13
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............ ..... ...... ... 14
Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 15
Priority Next Steps......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... ......... 16
Kyabra Landholder Forum....................... ................. .................. ................. .................. ................. .................. ........ ..... .. 18Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ...... 18
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............ ..... ...... ... 18Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 19
Priority Next Steps......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... ......... 19
Walcha Community Forum......................... ................. .................. ................. .................. ................. ................. ..... ...... . 21Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ...... 21
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............ ..... ...... ... 21
Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 22
Priority Next Steps......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... ......... 22
Investor Forum....................... .................. ................. .................. ................. .................. ................. .................. ............... ...... ... 24Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ...... 24
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............ ..... ...... ... 25
Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 26Priority Next Steps......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... ......... 27
Glen Innes Community Forum....................... ................. .................. ................. .................. ................. .................. ....... 28Benefits................................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ...... 28
Challenges & Risks......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............ ..... ...... ... 29
Key Principles.................. ................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ............... ...... .... 30
Priority Next Steps......................... .................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... ......... 30
Other Comments (Anonymous)................. ................... .................. ................... .................. .................. ................... .................. ................... .... 31
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GOVERNANCE MODEL OPTIONS ANALYSIS
ARMIDALE COMMUNITY FORUM
BENEFITS
Empowerment, Local autonomy, independence:
Possibility of greater responsibility for demand reduction/management
Empowerment
Encourage further action
Energy independence
Involvement encourages interest, disperses knowledge and a feeling of
were doing something about a need that is essential that we meet. Setting up distribution network so shareholders and community can buy
electricity directly rather than selling to a third party.
Community develops understanding of
Electricity system
Real costs/impacts/benefits
How to do big business initiatives as a community and ideas for doing
better in future
Community controls policy
Owners are us! So more accessible Empowerment
High visibility: proving that people can make the changes they want to see
themselves, rather than relying on the government
Community building & linkage
Give a strong sense of community to our region
Community and individual awareness
Secure future supply
Future proof against global interests
Profits returned to community
Control over energy production
Locally owned (not multinational & for export)
Locally produced energy directly benefitting community
Ownership and responsibility for sustainable future response to clean
energy production and reduce our waste.
Transparency
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Financial/Economic Benefits:
Employment
Revenues are kept within
Employment local jobs
Potential for revenue to be returned to the community
Whole new industry for region
Jobs
Tourism
Economic - return on investment
A welcome source of income for farmers (rental of land for turbines)
Clean Energy ~ Not polluting, not coal:
Positive & clean
Clean energy
Clean
Decreased need for coal (stop a few mines happening?)
Contribution to clean energy
Reduce possibility of further environmental degradation such as coal seam
drilling
Educational Benefits:
Community education/learning
spin-off experience from other projects
Opportunity to document process and establish a model that can be sold
on to others (i.e. use it for capital gain both financially and socially)
Education
Setting example
Community education
Visual Benefits
Fits the landscape
Identity to community & aesthetic appeal
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Technical Benefits
Localised power for total energy independence ultimately using biogas,
co-generation wind mix. Result: no expensive cable connections to the
biggest power user, the grid. Local energy with minimal power lines minimises the line losses of about
50% of coal-fired generation
Miscellaneous Issues:
Medaway Industrial Park Uralla has grid connections already established
Link it with solar and Uralla becomes energy independent
Recycling hydro dam generation as proposed by Zinhi Buzo for the Styx
River would provide base load
CHALLENGES& RISKS
Siting & Environmental Challenges:
Finding suitable site
Environmental challenge
Placement disputes, long term
What is proposed method for identifying potential sites for turbines, andwhat incentives are there for landholders - equity, site rental?
Being muscled out of the most suitable sites by the big corporations
Where to put it
Complaints about land vandalism caused by wind farms
Location is paramount: not too close to residents, 35db at base of turbine is
not where most noise is problematic.
Away from wildlife corridors
Public opposition/compensation will be a challenge re: noise, site, impact
on quality of life for some Potential adverse impact on biodiversity (esp. birds) and scenic impact
(huge size)
Resources required to construct (how big a hole in the ground to mine the
metal?)
Noise infrasound & natural habitat destruction
Environmental impacts: flora and fauna, threatened species and
ecological communities
Specifically habitat removal, collision mortalities (birds and bats)
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Its about appropriate siting
Impacts of intense storm events
Key principle: Priority given to sensitive turbine locations
dealing with myths e.g. noise effects on health Idea: Look into crown land close to town e.g. town reserves lookouts etc.
Funding Challenges:
Keeping the fundraising impetus long enough to achieve the goal
Raising the capital how many people contributing how much?
Cost
Getting investors
Raising enough money
Competition from large investors
Funding
Raising funds to purchase land
Getting the right price for sale for investors to invest
Raising the money,
Tax implications of being an energy producer
Cost
Governance/Organisational Structure Challenges:
Financial responsibility
Ownership structure
Governance issues
Developing an equitable investment model and company structure
Corporate governance
Lack of expertise (initially)
Management maintenance
Community division e.g about a particular site/location has to be dealt
with and survived by people managing the windfarm organisation, not justby the authority determining whether to approve it
To work out organisational structure
Lack of expertise
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Red Tape & Government Regulation Challenges:
Changes in government policy in regard to cost of carbon
Government red tape
Local government development guidelines will they be accommodating? Government input into carbon pricing
Getting governments to commit
Technical Challenges:
Technical challenges
Grid connection power wasted when grid goes down (same as solar),
need power companies on board
Other Challenges:
Division of communities
Takeover by state for later privatisation for profit or loss-offsetting, once
proven successful
Permission from Transgrid and local power companies
Time
Need to have education from people who have lived near windfarms
they can and do cause major impact on many peoples quality of life
(through infra sound etc)
20 year lifespan oil needed to replace them?
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KEYPRINCIPLES
Community consultation to develop blueprint
Preferential local use/consumption/self sufficiency
Local decision making
Role of community organisations
Mutual structure/cooperative: one person, one vote
Management of influence Energy justice
Local jobs
Viable business model
Security of advance deposits
Source of funds/who can invest?
Maximum investment?
Tax exempt
Trading ability
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Part of an overall energy plan
Possible staged development
Transparency/accountability
Viability all fronts Triple bottom line
NEXTSTEPS
Options paper for comment & critique
Legal governance framework
Investment model
Inform public education campaign Locations/sites based on research
Formal approaches to Councils get some champions
Experienced others to talk to community.
Get Tony Windsor and Richard Torbay involved
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GOVERNANCE MODEL OPTIONS ANALYSIS
URALLA COMMUNITY FORUM
BENEFITS
Empowerment. Local autonomy, Independence:
Move towards self-sufficiency
Innovation generally
Starting early just after the first community wind farm in Australia is nearly
established.
Local power production
Local control of energy production
Community satisfaction from ownership/involvement Community power and leadership
Independence from broader, non-sustainable political decision makers
Opportunity for the community to have a direct financial input into
environmentally beneficial community based programs
Community input into siting/location of turbines
Financial & Economic:
Security of affordable supply
Hopefully cheaper, sustainable power
Clean Energy, not polluting, not coal:
Clean energy
Brilliant renewable energy all for it
Anything that helps the environment is good
Lessen reliance on fossil fuel in our community
Reduction of coal-fired power stations
Reduction of greenhouse gases
Obvious benefits to environment
Covering your own footprint
Visual Benefits
They look great
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Miscellaneous Issues:
How long is it before the embodied cost of setting up wind farm is
recouped?
Locating 6 turbines, easier than 100s Opportunity for best practice looking at the whole sustainability picture
CHALLENGES& RISKS
Siting & Environmental Challenges:
Dangers to birds high lagoons, migrating birds
Infra sound
Potential negative impact on fauna species & vegetation clearing, road
construction, power lines (?underground) to turbines.
Clearing trees
Noise complaints
Ugly to look at
High voltage power lines
Site security (staking claim)
Find a good site Land owners acceptance
Wind fluctuates
Funding Challenges:
Ability to compete with commercial companies - $10 25billion
investments
Getting the $$$
Governance/Organisational Structure Challenges: Rules of investment in co-ops
Red Tape/Government Regulation Challenges:
Government policy shifts
Technical Challenges:
Direct supply of electricity to members
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Other Challenges:
Too small to make a difference?
Community anxiety (personal and property damage)
Create division in the community Comparing wind with alternative energy sources for: cost, embedded
energy, other challenges and risks
From Suggestion Box:
Lets look at setting up a monitoring study to investigate before & after (if
any!) impacts on fauna. Opportunity for our UNE partner. Could feed into
body of science and perhaps alleviate concerns in other communities.
Some thought given to establishing an independent local distribution grid
maybe using some % of the community return of investment.
KEYPRINCIPLES
Accessing information from Hepburn and others
Membership structure is clear and doesnt change
Triple Quadruple bottom line: economic, social, environmental, governance
Getting the right site:
Close to grid Good wind
Already cleared
Away from houses
Not in bird path
Community support
Access (all weather)
Ethical
Environmental
Local ownership proportion to be set Financing
Returns to investors plus returns to the is return comparable?
Two thirds investors, one third borrowing
Local investors (individuals) treated same as other investors
Pay for self and renewal
Sourcing of materials/practical
Certainty of wind for investors
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PRIORITYNEXTSTEPS
Timeline and projections (to include sell/share knowledge)
Costings for different sizes Clarifying
Staging of investments
Consider piggybacking on a commercial wind farm
Accessing seed funding (use for further investigation)
Identify people with money
Measuring wind
Identify & investigate sites
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KYABRA LANDHOLDER FORUM
BENEFITS
Clean power, local power
Benefits cleaner air
Money focussed back into our own community, rather than going out in
many directions, in super funds
Local (independent) energy generation
People coming together with a common cause, bringing back community
social benefits Community taking responsibility for their energy needs in a sustainable way
CHALLENGES& RISKS
Getting agreement as to type of ownership
Get lost in a forest of turbines
Farmers would want assurity that the site is accessible to the right people.
Needs to be mindful of the farmers point of view erosion if road for
instance
Community perceptions re: amenity/noise issues
Challenges to get enough money to invest
New super fund?
Able to pull out
Electricity prices, how secure long-term financial return
$$
Government policy especially renewables
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KEYPRINCIPLES
Transparency
Keep it Simple!
Good board and management
Spread benefits and risks widely
Local investors only e.g. Community Mutual - local $, stay local
Set a percentage for local funding
Return of 10% to 12% (cf. stock market 6% to 12%)
Set a percentage of profit for community purposes
Voting control
Keep governance local Learn from local government investments (Fanny May etc)
Low minimum investment per person, say $500.
Insure risks (e.g damage to sites for roads etc)
Bring community together
PRIORITYNEXTSTEPS
Clear business model, including turbines financial return
A documentary to promote and educate include interviews with peoplefrom Hepburn
Consult on possibilities of a new super fund getting pro-bono advice from
e.g. Price Waterhouse, KPMG, Ernst & Young etc.
Measure the wind
Positive promotion, particularly directed to ordinary people, especially
urban.
What about Bendemeer? We are on the border of any Government project
or such. Why not hold a forum in Bendemeer?
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WALCHA COMMUNITY FORUM
BENEFITS
Community ownership
A cooperative scheme would mean the community/investors would feel
they had a degree of control over their investment (as opposed to, say, a
government owned scheme or large commercial operator.
Community ownership
Shifting the energy debate from government to taking the lead from the
people people power. Direct sale/use of electricity (e.g. Council, hospital)
Support and cooperation from local Council
Jobs for local residents
Potential to partner with UNE for research projects extend business
Keep profits local diversify income, ownership
Wind is free, clean and never-ending
Carbon trading benefits
CHALLENGES& RISKS
Complaints from nearby residents who are not benefitting financially
A small community may divide fairly strongly for and against wind farms
Visual and other effects on rural landscape
Community acceptance of wind energy
Pressure to succeed is higher i.e. other commercially-owned companies
may be able to spread cost of low wind times over numerous regions
Getting the message out competing with commercials Responsibility maintenance
Liability
Working out the details
Technical challenges greater for community than commercial
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KEYPRINCIPLES
To benefit all community, the benefits need to go back via Councils or
other broader, rather than just the shareholders
Legally incorporated in unlisted public company
Direct benefits in ? lower electricity costs
Research and learn from other projects (e.g. Hepburn)
Council involvement (they have prior history of energy supply)
Locate close to grid & not near homes
Open processes
Structure: public company, transparent
Take advantage of e.g. carbon trading A way to sell/interest people in project
Work out key objectives e.g. carbon/sustainability/local enterprise
Majority control to be local, set a %
Genuinely hearing and responding to peoples concerns
Building knowledge in the community, starting small.
PRIORITYNEXTSTEPS
Wheres the wind? Business plan
Establish financial returns for landholders and investors
Reach as many people as possible more publicity, including benefits and
risks an open process
Consider smaller project, to start
Get direct experience either locally or a study trip
Build relationships/negotiate with (?competitors) Essential Energy/Country
Energy/the Grid
Need plan for post-feasibility study who will follow up, what next Investigate partnership with commercial developer
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INVESTOR FORUM
BENEFITS
Miniturisation
Get plans and build turbines here
18% + ethical
UNE land for siting
Ring Main Supply
Preferred Place; EVO Cities; reputation of the region; reputation; lifestyle
Provide a focus for community energy efficiency an other small scalecogeneration projects synergy and partnerships
Sustainable energy resource; Clean energy; Clean power generation
Localised electricity production; smaller loss in grid; reduced energy losses
Employment opportunities; Local employment; creation of jobs
Research opportunities; development of alternative technology
Future benefits for the environment are enormous
Community involvement
Localised investment; ongoing investments; clean ethical investment;
incentive for investing Community-run, self-sustaining electricity; renewable energy source not
reliant on others outside community;
Government seed project
Increased population (?)
Reduction in GHG emissions; reduction of carbon footprint
Support and access to expertise not necessarily available to individuals.
Carbon credit generation; carbon credits?;
Sustainability
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CHALLENGES& RISKS
Decrease in purchase/ wholesale price because of increased grid costs
The grid
Storage/ waste electricity
1 person 1 vote: prone to capture/ stacking/ carpet bagging; eg. CMG
2% of people attend and vote = a silent majority.
How much experience around the world in life of equipment?
Miniturisation may not be so important in the New England
How to keep it local if we get outside funds
Monopoly if not owned by community control
Hail damage? Unemployment
Technology redundant in a short time loss of funds
Financial support; raising the finance
Confidence
Attracting technical skills
Training
Debate/ politics
Job loss (referring to a perception that Renewable energy generation will
take less jobs than coal generation) financial effect of. Opportunity cost
Big business snapping up the best sites before community support is
established
Securing suitable sites in acceptable areas for adjoining land owners
Viability of the grid itself
Carbon tax?
Degrading of infrastructure (from memory this was about NEW needing to
think about the possibility of contributing to grid upgrade and
maintenance, as well as the 20-30 yr lifespan of turbines before needingrefurbishment)
Alienation of sectors of the community
Marketing and management of adverse comments and negativeness
Suitable legal structures
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KEYPRINCIPLES
More people to benefit from NEW then less negative resistance
Risk spread around and therefore increase chance of getting off the
ground; risk spread.
Transparency
KISS information
Board: business, merit and skills based, technical, corp law, acct (?)
Governance role for LGA
ROI and Feel Good; 10% plus return
Reflect community values
Balance financial aspects with community values Offset rising electricity prices; lock in a price for electricity for a given time
How do we own it? Rates adjustment?
Ability to sell shares; liquidity and depth in share market
Carbon franking credit
Prevent foreign investors from buying it out
Have clear, set mission, purpose, vision, strategy to then drive a marketing
plan
Dominant local community ownership
Needs a very strong financial underpinning: profit = return Idea of having a local price discount and a export price premium (ie. Pay
less for local electricity and more for electricity that has had to travel a
long way)
Classes of shares
Local with voting and governance rights
Structure: separate business from operational arm; authorisation/ investment
arm; business/community arm.
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PRIORITYNEXTSTEPS
Governance Structure foster community control, stop it from going
offshore, limit institutional investor bought voting control
Communicating what real, valid concerns and whats not substantiated
(noise, birds, look)
Strong educational base
Concise, organised, packaged
Price it
Prospectus
Seed funding
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GLEN INNES COMMUNITY FORUM
BENEFITS
A better future money for community.
People controlling local power
Clean power
If it works, community pride, sense of achievement
Towers allow land usage as usual
Long term investment 20 years +
Clean energy Joint venture: public listed company allows shares to be traded
If the community wind towers could be off the private companies
Line of sight consultation a must do
Are state land reserves etc available rather than private land
Local/regional ownership
Cooperative, not a profit-oriented structure/framework
Local employment, IF Govt supports training of locals
Reduction of greenhouse gases (far more effective than taxing the current
systems to discourage use) Potential to continue using the land as before
Flow-on financial benefits to the community.
Environmental benefits less effects into the future than coal
Financial benefits cheaper energy source
Employment benefits
Great source of renewable energy to be used in conjunction with solar
units
Clean wind always available
Community ownership
More affordable electricity
Symbol of what community stands for
Community based much more preferable
Eliminates the developer
$44M 7PA to latch on to other existing development
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CHALLENGES& RISKS
Can divide the community.
Visually ugly
Wind and solar only produce for 4 6 hours per day
500m safe zone has been suggested = 1km
Noise from towers travels on the wind, not fall below
Financial: $2-3 million 30% top production
Challenges:
Raising capital required
Get agreement on location, height of towers etc
Investment potential: what guarantees are there for shareholders? Lifespans, quality, maintenance
Existing negative community perceptions
Risks
Fire
Flying debris
Ice
Health insurance
Bird kills
Air spraying and towers Risks
Health
Valuation on land
Impact on peoples livesthe ones that dont want a wind tower
Lightning
Impact on wild life
Noise: at base noise would be minimal because its going over you.
Lifespan of towers and turbines
Maintenance costs Responsibility
Challenges
Community opinion
Training program and jobs
Management of project
Risks
Noise, visual impact, devaluation of land
Small player in a big grid
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Entry and tenure in a the state/national grid system
KEYPRINCIPLES
Do it ourselves. Eliminate the developers
Benefit both sides: community and developers
Include community right from the beginning
Line of site communication
NSW govt training to create local employment
Get good people for management/board
Structure: prevent negative influence of a few ?re voting influence.
Inclusive/ right to a voice Return on investment
Return a profit to the communityenhance community spirit
Investigate size/capacity of turbines and maintenance requirements
Avoid environmentally sensitive areas
Consider attachment to a commercial wind farm
Educate the community
Members
?only from New England.
? only individuals ? Councils
Councils on side
Transparency, good & bad
Independent legal advice
PRIORITYNEXTSTEPS
Feasibility study expertise
Formal approaches to existing projects for expertise & ownership
Public education campaign full disclosure
Web site with full information totally open
Research financial/technical
Study visit to existing wind farm
Who is Starfish Enterprises?
Generate a lot more interest
Existing info on community co-ops
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OTHERCOMMENTS(ANONYMOUS)
Some matters not dealt with: property devalued if you want to sell when
property surrounded by wind farms. Thanks you for allowing us to vent. You listened to all our views. It was a
change to what we have in the past.
To certainly pursue the community wind farm for interested persons not
tainted with the negative effects from the commercial farm to be
established in our area and to ensure all interested community members
gain complete satisfaction with the communication process involved.
Any steering/exploratory committee to be identifiably New England
people.
I dont think it will be good to add any more towers than what is alreadyforced upon the community. Piggy backing would be the only way.