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In his new book, Steven advises companies to become conversation companies. A conversation company is a very consumer oriented company, relying on the power of people and using social media as a perfect partner. The Conversation Company invests in 4 C's to optimize its conversation potential: customer experience, conversation management, content, collaboration. This report gives an update to which extent companies are investing in these 4 dimensions.

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Page 1: The 4C's of the Conversation Company

Katia Pallini

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About this research report

InSites Consulting, together with sample and data

collection partner SSI and the translation agency No

Problem! conducted a quantitative online survey among

1,222 senior managers.

The targeted markets included are Belgium, The

Netherlands, France, Germany, the US and the UK.

All respondents are senior or top managers from

companies (+20fte) in different sectors, with different

sizes and offers. Splits per sector, region… are shown if

the results are relevant.

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What to expect from this research report

Market circumstances are forcing companies to change

their marketing, their behavior and their leadership style.

In his book, The Conversation Company, Steven

identifies four pillars that will guide companies through

this change process. These pillars are rethinking

customer experience, conversation management,

content strategy and collaboration.

This research project measures the current state of

companies in their journey to become a conversation

company.

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The Conversation

Company Philosophy

‘The Conversation Company’ is a metaphor for the

most consumer-centric organization one can imagine,

using the power of the people as a positive lever and

thankfully accepting social media as an ideal business

partner. Company culture is the conversation guide for

all employees and clients. To optimize its conversation

potential, the Conversation Company invests in 4 C’s:

Customer Experience, Conversation management,

Content marketing & Consumer Collaboration.

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4C IMPACT MODEL

Identification

with company

culture

Satisfaction &

recommendation

Social Media

adoption

The 4C impact model shows how ‘identification with company culture’ and ‘social

media integration’ influence the adoption level of the 4C pillars, which in turn have an

impact on employee satisfaction and the likelihood of staff recommending their own

company to others. Both are objective parameters of business performance.

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5 KEY CONCLUSIONS

OF OUR RESEARCH

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Lack of identification with the

corporate values among

top management blocks

social media integration

1

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High social

media adoption

61%

39%

29%

24%

Doing

nothing

with social

media

First

steps in

social

media

Pilot

phase

in

social

media

Integrating

social

media

Social

media

integrated

Low social

media integration

29%

27%

17%15%

12%

Doing nothing with socialmedia

First steps in social media Pilot phase in social media Integrating social media Social media is integrated

29% 27%

17% 15%

12%

2

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39% Customer

experience

24% Conversation management

19% Content

management

16% Collaboration management

Still a long way to go

before the world is

full of conversation

companies

Current adoption of the 4C components

3

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A digital gap is created in the business world: Those who invest today, are the ones who will invest tomorrow

4

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Companies that invest in all 4 C’s have a higher satisfaction & recommendation rate among their own employees

5

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Full Research Report

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4C IMPACT MODEL

Identification

with company

culture

Satisfaction &

recommendation

Social Media

adoption

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The Company Culture

is your company’s

Conversation Guide

The most commonly used definition of company culture reads as follows:

“Company culture is a series of shared values and convictions which help individuals understand the functioning

of the company.”

A transparent company culture makes it easy for the employees to understand exactly what the company expects

of them. Culture gives people an insight into the type of behaviour the company considers appropriate.

Research confirms that company culture often forms the basis for the successful implementation of a strategy. A

strong company culture also has a positive impact on the performance and productivity of its employees. This

culture is a kind of „mental programming‟ that sets an organisation apart from its competitors.

Your culture is the personality of your organisation and the foundation your Conversation Company is built on.

Your staff and customers make this culture tangible to others. This involves a method of reasoning that works

from the inside out. A traditional company is first and foremost interested in keeping its shareholders happy.

Making customers happy only comes second, with the staff coming a poor third. A Conversation Company turns

this logic on its head. Happy staff are more than willing to keep the customers happy; happy customers mean

higher profits and this makes the shareholders happy as well. Or, as CEO of Southwest Airlines puts it:

“We take good care of our staff. Our staff take good care of our customers. And our customers take good care of

our shareholders.”

Your company culture is the conversation guide for employees and clients. Employees know how to behave and

how to communicate with clients, whereas clients know what to expect.

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Lack of identification

among top management

blocks the evolution

We looked for the reasons why some companies are refusing to invest in new media. Looking at the data, we found

some typical results: the healthcare industry is lagging behind; media is a frontrunner; smaller companies are in the

lead compared to bigger companies. But I have to admit, these differences are rather small.

There is a bigger and more fundamental reason why some companies are lagging behind: their leaders. This survey

was undertaken among top managers from companies in the US, the UK and Europe[p1]. It was quite shocking to

see that about half of these top managers do not identify with the corporate identity and culture of the company they

preside over. This parameter is crucial to being open to change and evolution. Leaders who have a less emotional

bond with their company, invest less in social media. The transparency, openness and authenticity of the social web

must scare them away.

This shows that conversational leadership becomes a critical success factor for adapting companies to the

transparent world we live in. Leaders can hate their job but need to love their company. The more extreme the ‘love’

(emotional bond) between the leader and the company, the higher a company scores in social media

adoption/integration.

‘First who, then what’

I am a big fan of Jim Collins’ book ‘From good to great’. In his work he states that great companies first decide on the

‘Who?’ and then on the ‘What?’. Our research about social media integration and adoption has the same conclusion.

If you are serious about social media, the two elements you need are a conversation leader and a corporate culture

which acts as your conversation guide. After that, implementation of new projects will go a lot faster. This study also

shows that some companies (with the wrong leader and wrong culture) will never be successful in this field. Probably

these companies have even more serious problems to deal with first, don’t you think?

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It’s remarkable that half

the senior and top-level

managers do not or

hardly identify with the

culture of the company

they work for.

The two main reasons

are the lack of visibility

of company values

throughout the

organization and a

limited focus on

company culture in the

recruitment process.

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Company culture is built on having strong values and

living these values…

The 5 most common values are…

More than 1 in 4 companies has

‘professionalism’ as a value.

France is an outlier regarding company

values: values such as responsibility, trust

and respect carry more weight.

27% professionalism

26% customer

centricity

19% service-oriented

16% expertise

16% result driven

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Perfect fit between

company & personal

values

No fit between company

& personal values

Company

values

Personal

values

51% 49%

But how are people living these values…

Only 1 in 2 feel

their personal values

fit closely with

those of the

company they

work for.

This percentage is

significantly higher

among top-level

managers, managers

with more than 20

years of experience,

B2B companies and

companies not listed

on the stock market.

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The better the value match the more satisfied people are and the more likely they are to recommend their company to others

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37% of managers

claim their company

values are not clear

to everyone in the

company

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54% of companies

recruit employees based on matching values

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Company values…

To what extent do you agree with the following statements regarding company culture?

Our company values permeate everything we do

Openness, authenticity and happiness are somehow incorporated in our values

Our company values are clear to everyone in the company

If negative customer comments appear online, we do not remove them but instead we try to help the customer

Our internal and external values are the same

If a staff member says or writes something wrong, we help him adjust his behavior

New employees are only recruited if their values match ours

As an employee, you have access to social media at work

My company encourages online conversations with customers

Employees are allowed to talk about their work on social media

64%

64%

63%

61%

60%

60%

54%

52%

44%

41%

Agree

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4C IMPACT MODEL

Identification

with company

culture

Satisfaction &

recommendation

Social Media

adaption

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Social network adoption is

high in companies. The

most actively used

platforms are Facebook,

Twitter, LinkedIn and

YouTube.

However, integration of

social media in business

processes is low. Only

12% of businesses have

fully integrated social

media in their business.

Yet our study shows that

social media integration

has a positive impact on

satisfaction and

recommendation.

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Social Media Adoption

Which of the following social media platforms is your company active on?

61%

39%

29%

24%

17%

9%

5%

5%

4%

3%

Facebook

Twitter

LinkedIn

YouTube

A corporate blog

MySpace

Flickr

Foursquare

Netlog

Badoo

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Most actively used platforms:

61%

39%

29%

24%

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Social Media Adoption

<500 500+

65% 56%

41% 37%

33% 25%

26% 21%

B2C B2B

60% 62%

39% 38%

22% 41%

24% 24%

Which of the following social media platforms is your company active on?

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Which of the following social media platforms is your company active on?

Products

60% 51% 70%

39% 32% 45%

32% 24% 33%

25% 16% 30%

Services Products &

Services

Social Media Adoption

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63% 43% 55% 78% 67% 62%

42% 39% 37% 66% 52% 50%

28% 29% 26% 29% 38% 24%

27% 30% 24% 46% 36% 35%

FMCG & Retail Healthcare Finance Media Tech & Telco Travel & Leisure

Social Media Adoption

Which of the following social media platforms is your company active on?

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More than 1 in 2 companies are still in the early stages of integrating social media.

12% have fully integrated social media in their business processes.

Social Media Integration

29%

27%

17%15%

12%

Doing nothing with socialmedia

First steps in social media Pilot phase in social media Integrating social media Social media is integratedDoing nothing

with social media

First steps in

social media

Pilot phase in

social media

Integrating

social media

Social media

integrated

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<500 500+

27% 32%

30% 24%

17% 17%

15% 16%

12% 11%

B2C B2B

29% 30%

27% 26%

18% 15%

15% 17%

11% 12%

Doing nothing with social

media

First small steps

Setting up/ running pilot

projects

Integrating social media

Social media are fully

integrated

To what extent has your company integrated social media?

Social Media Adoption

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26% 31% 46% 19% 32% 23%

24% 27% 20% 28% 30% 33%

23% 18% 15% 19% 15% 13%

17% 14% 10% 20% 15% 17%

11% 10% 10% 13% 10% 15%

Doing nothing with social

media

First small steps

Setting up/ running pilot

projects

Integrating social media

Social media are fully

integrated

Social Media Adoption

To what extent has your company integrated social media?

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30% 38% 26% 27% 24% 30%

19% 26% 24% 20% 22% 33%

19% 12% 22% 13% 22% 16%

20% 13% 15% 23% 19% 13%

12% 11% 13% 16% 14% 9%

Doing nothing with social

media

First small steps

Setting up/ running pilot

projects

Integrating social media

Social media are fully

integrated

FMCG & Retail Healthcare Finance Media Tech & Telco Travel & Leisure

Social Media Adoption

To what extent has your company integrated social media?

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Companies that have

fully integrated social

media in their structure

use an average of 3

different social media

channels.

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52% have access to social

media at work

41% are allowed to discuss

their work on social media

44% are encouraged to

communicate online with

customers and consumers

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Companies where social media is fully integrated have more satisfied employees who are more likely to recommend their company to others.

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4C IMPACT MODEL

Identification

with company

culture

Satisfaction &

recommendation

Social Media

Adoption

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These four new disciplines have been chosen after careful consideration.

A survey of 400 marketers has shown that companies grow faster than their sector rivals when they

use these four components in unison.

These four pillars help build a conversation lever for both your employees and your customers. Moreover,

the entire process is in line with your company culture and company values.

The first pillar, customer experience, is the most important conversation starter. If your employees and

your customers feel well-treated, they will mention this to each other.

Managing customer experience means investing in word-of-mouth. You are developing a focus for staff

and consumer satisfaction. As a result, service is no longer be seen as a cost but as an investment in

conversations.

Managing the conversations is the second pillar. This involves observing, facilitating and participating in

conversations. Your participation in conversations in social media will help humanise your company and

make it seem less distant. Asking and answering questions boosts the interaction between the company

and the market.

In addition to the reactive answering of questions, the Conversation Company also adopts an active

strategy with regard to content. Your content proves you are an expert in your field. Your company moves

away from campaign-based thinking and towards the planning of impactful, conversation-generating

content.

The final pillar is the pillar of structural collaboration between your company and the market. The

customer wants to help you and you welcome that help. The Conversation Company builds various

communities of customers, who help determine the future of the organisation.

Why these Four Components?

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The 4C components

Current adoption levels…

39% Customer

experience

24% Conversation

management

19% Content

management

16% Collaboration

management

Today, customer experience is the

most adopted pillar. Compared to

the other countries, US-based

companies score significantly

higher on customer experience and

conversation management

adoption. Overall, countries

providing both products and

services score better on each of the

pillars than companies providing

either products or services.

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US-based companies with less than 500

employees in the media or technology sector

are the top performers across all 4 Cs

<500

Media

Tech & Telco

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Only services

<500

Especially Belgium-based

companies with less than

500 employees providing

only services need better

4C leverage

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Customer experience is the

main driver of satisfaction

and recommendation.

Offering strong products and

a decent customer service

will boost business through

positive conversations.

However, only 54% of

companies today manage

those customer expectations

by delivering slightly more

than promised.

Moreover, just 2 out of 3 are

open to conversations with

customers in every phase of

the purchase process.

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54%manage

customer expectations

by delivering slightly

more than promised

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60% always

opt for solutions

that benefit the

customer in the

event of a problem

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43% offer

the same services

both online and

offline

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Customer Experience…

To what extent do you agree with the following statements regarding customer experience?

The staff are trained to deliver adequate customer service

My company tries to be open to conversations with customers in every phase of the purchase process

In the event of problems, my company always opts for a solution which benefits the customer

Our customers can choose their own preferred channel of communication to address their questions

Every employee knows how to react to both satisfied & dissatisfied customers

My company innovates sufficiently in terms of customer service

More than 80% of the comments (online and offline) about my company are positive

My company manages every touch point with customers as a conversation starter

My company manages expectations. We deliver slightly more than what we promise

My company offers the same services both online and offline

70%

63%

60%

59%

59%

57%

56%

55%

54%

43%

Agree

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Conversations should be

managed in three stages:

observing, facilitating and

participating.

Only 40% monitor customer

conversations whereas 36%

also participate in these

online conversations.

Remarkably, less than 1 in 2

companies manage their

conversations themselves.

Also, just 38% share the

outcome of these interactions

with the entire organisation.

In other words, much of the

conversations potential

remains unused.

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40% monitor

customer

conversations both

online and offline,

36% participate in

online conversations

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48% of

companies

manage their

own

conversations

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34% use the real names

of the people who administer

the company Twitter account

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Conversation Management…

To what extent do you agree with the following statements regarding conversation management?

My company always answers when a customer asks a question online and/or offline

My company admits its mistakes and apologises to the customer

Employees participate in conversations with customers and clients

My company offers objective added value when dealing with commercial questions from customers

My company manages its conversations itself

My company monitors customer conversations both online and offline

The conclusions of these observations are shared with all employees

My company sometimes posts questions on public forums to gain input and feedback from customers

My company participates in online conversations

My company uses the real names of the people who administer the company Twitter account

69%

69%

57%

56%

48%

40%

38%

37%

36%

34%

Agree

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Content management is

becoming increasingly

important. More companies

acknowledge the need to

change their commercial

model due to the rise of

social media.

However, only 39%

currently have a content plan.

Less than 1 in 2 believe

their company is fully aware

of the opportunities each

channel has to offer in terms

of spreading content.

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A 6-Step Approach in Content Marketing…

Topic

Selection

Content

Conversion

Strategy

Editorial

Content

Planning

Create

Shareable

Content

Manage

Content

Conversation

Measure

Success

Define what you want

to be famous for.

Select your content

domains wisely and

be consistent in your

choice.

Content marketing

should result in

increased revenue.

Think beforehand

about where you

want a conversation

to take place. Define

a top conversion

point and lead people

to this point through

your content

Set up a roadmap so

you know when and

where content will be

shared. Streamline

the content calendar

with all other

marketing actions in

order to increase

impact.

The content must be

easy to share and

worth sharing.

People tend to

spread positive,

relevant and

appealing content

that offers a benefit.

Once the content is

launched, people will

react to it. Be open to

this engagement

from your audience

and be prepared to

answer questions or

to give feedback.

The moment the

content strategy is up

and running, you can

measure its impact

through a set of

relevant KPIs. These

KPIs should be a

combination of

business generation

measures and

conversational

measures.

50% 43% 39% 45% 40%

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39% have a content plan

48% use the right online

channels to spread content

efficiently

44% has well aware of

the opportunities each

channel has to offer in terms

of spreading content

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56% have

employees who

are responsible

for creating content.

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44% have an editor

of sorts who plans and

organizes the content

36% have bloggers

amongst their employees

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Content Management…

To what extent do you agree with the following statements regarding content management?

My company has employees who are responsible for creating content

My company knows on which content areas it wants to focus

My company uses the right online channels to spread content effectively

My company is well aware of the opportunities each channel has to offer in terms of spreading content

My company has software to process content efficiently

My company facilitates the sharing of content

My company has an editor of sorts who can plan and organize the content

My company has a plan to convert content into leads

My company has a content plan

My company has bloggers amongst its employees

56%

50%

48%

47%

45%

45%

44%

43%

39%

36%

Agree

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Customer collaboration

has the highest impact on

employee satisfaction and

the likelihood of someone

recommending their

company to others.

Employees value this new

form of consumer

commitment.

Still, to date, only 53%

have already taken decisions

in conjunction with their

customers and only 1 in 2

involve their customers in the

development phase.

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37% actively manage

their relationship with

fans and ambassadors

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50% involve

customers in the

development of

new products

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28% have a small closed fan community

27% have a large open fan community

they consult with

43% have a staff/employee community

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Collaboration Management…

To what extent do you agree with the following statements regarding collaboration management?

My company has already taken decisions in conjunction with its customers

My company involves customers in the development of new service possibilities

My company involves customers when launching new products

My company involves customers in the development of new products

My company has a staff/employee community

My company takes most of its decisions in collaboration with staff and/or customers

My company actively manages its relationships with fans and ambassadors

My company involves customers when choosing new suppliers

My company has a small, closed fan community it consults with

My company has a large, open fan community it consults with

53%

50%

48%

45%

43%

41%

37%

29%

28%

27%

Agree

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To what extent do you agree that, in the future, your company should invest in….?

47%

44%

40%

45%

Willingness towards Future Investment

Overall, less than 50% of

companies are willing to

invest in these 4 pillars

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Companies with a high score

on the 4C pillars display a

significantly higher intention

to keep investing in these 4

pillars, which will result in a

continued growth in

business performance.

It’s time to act! Disbelievers will lag behind….

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Inte

nti

on

to

in

vest

in 4

C

Currently investing in 4Cs

Low High

Lo

w

Hig

h

62%

18% 11%

10%

This will create a gap between

the unwilling majority and the

investing few.

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Str

uctu

ral C

oll

ab

ora

tio

n

Reach

Low

Lo

w

Hig

h

Social media can help you

generate content efficiently

either on a large scale or on

a one-to-one basis.

Today, companies have

the opportunity to build

structural relationships

with their customers.

Apart from these

structural contacts,

companies can also

benefit from open

relationships with

customers.

Placing the 4Cs in a broader perspective….

Combining these two

dimensions creates 4

relevant quadrants. Each

quadrant requires a different

approach.

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Str

uctu

ral C

oll

ab

ora

tio

n

Low

Reach

High

Lo

w

Hig

h

Consumer

consulting

board

Conversations

Broad open

collaboration

Customer

experience

Content

Placing the 4Cs in a broader perspective….

20%*

* % of companies who adopt the C pillar today and have the willingness for further investment

15%*

16%* 14%*

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4C IMPACT MODEL

Identification

with company

culture

Satisfaction &

recommendation

Social Media

Adoption

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A close fit in values and social media adoption have an impact on 4C integration, which in their turn have an impact on satisfaction and recommendation

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Companies scoring high on the 4C pillars boast an average satisfaction score 23% and recommendation score 27% higher than companies

* High is defined as an average score of minimum 4 on 5 on the 4 pillars.

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* High is defined as an average score of minimum 4 on 5 on the 4 pillars.

Fieldwork

• SSI helps companies make decisions • By offering access to consumers and

business professionals • In more than 75 countries • Through online and telephone

methodologies • For over 2,000 clients across the globe

The field work for this study was conducted by SSI:

www.surveysampling.com

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