Y Full STR ResultsIS THE BIG Y BIG ENOUGH?

Y Full Doesn’t Provide Results For all STR’s

Even so I’m more interested in the ability to compare an average of a little over 400 STR’s than I am with the SNP’s at this point.

Our Placement On the Y Tree

What I hope to learn from the Big Y and Full Y• How long has the direct male line of Forgeys been in the British Isles?• Verify that Forgey is a variant of Ferguson• Establish the approximate localities where the more recent family lived in

Scotland and Ireland• Support our paper trails and inferences regarding Forgey/Forgy & Forgie

relationships

Are there enough participants to draw meaningful conclusions now?

• My feeling is the database of Big Y/Full Y testers is too small, at this point, to draw any absolute conclusions

• A number of surname groups have participated in the Big Y which may skew the results. We are seeing terminal SNP’s which coincide with surnames, but this may be due to larger numbers of surname project participants?

• The terminal SNP’s for most participants are very old, and for that reason isn’t very helpful. The terminal SNP is often older than the adoption of surnames

• Some have much more recent SNP’s, which could be useful? I’m still apprehensive because of the small number of participants. We have atDNA databases with millions of testers. And FTDNA has a Y database with hundreds of thousands of testers, but the Big Y/Full Y only has a few thousand testers. What we think we know now could change with more testers?