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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Assembly Occupancies

NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Monday, July 18, 2016

Hilton Fort Lauderdale Marina Fort Lauderdale, Florida

1. Call to order. Call meeting to order by Chair Jeffrey Tubbs at 8:00 a.m. on July 18, 2016 at the Hilton Fort Lauderdale Marina, Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

2. Introduction of committee members and guests. For a current committee roster, see page 2.

3. Approval of August 24, 2015 first draft meeting minutes. See page 6.

4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. See page 9.

5. Aisle terminations task group report – Ed Roether, TG Chair.

6. Evaluation of Smoke-Protected Assembly Seating Capacity Factors.

7. Sightline-Constrained Railing Height – Harold Hansen.

8. Life Safety Evaluation Threshold of Occupant Load >6,000.

   

9. NFPA 101 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 26.  

10. NFPA 5000 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 42.

11. Other business.

12. Future meetings.

13. Adjournment.

Enclosures

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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM

Safety to Life

Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016

SAF-AXM

Jeffrey S. Tubbs

ChairArup955 Massachusetts AvenueSuite 402Cambridge, MA 02139-3180Alternate: Toby J. White

SE 7/20/2000SAF-AXM

Gregory E. Harrington

Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

2/3/2016

SAF-AXM

Raymond J. Battalora

PrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation1701 North Collins BoulevardSuite 235Richardson, TX 75080-3553

I 3/15/2007SAF-AXM

Lorrell Bush

PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.2025 Droylsden LaneEustis, FL 32726National Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: David Kurasz

M 03/05/2012

SAF-AXM

George D. Bushey

PrincipalRosser International1550 Peachtree Street, Suite 800Atlanta, GA 30309

SE 4/5/2001SAF-AXM

Eric Center

PrincipalCedar Hammock Fire RescueFire Marshal5200 26th Street WestBradenton, FL 34207Florida Fire Marshals & Inspectors Association

E 08/09/2012

SAF-AXM

William Conner

PrincipalBill Conner Associates LLC637 North Marion StreetOak Park, IL 60302American Society of Theater Consultants

SE 1/1/1987SAF-AXM

Daniel P. Finnegan

PrincipalSiemens Industry, Inc.Building Technologies DivisionFire & Security2953 Exeter CourtWest Dundee, IL 60118-1724National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Jason A. Lupa

M 3/2/2010

SAF-AXM

Max L. Gandy

PrincipalChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsAEC Division50 East North Temple Street12th Floor West WingSalt Lake City, UT 84150-0012Alternate: Christopher M. Jenkins

U 10/29/2012SAF-AXM

Ralph D. Gerdes

PrincipalRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227-1939Alternate: David Cook

SE 1/17/1997

SAF-AXM

Donald G. Goosman

PrincipalWiss, Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc.10 South Lasalle Street, Suite 2600Chicago, IL 60603-1017

SE 12/08/2015SAF-AXM

Harold C. Hansen

PrincipalVenue Management Consultants Group, LLC7414 North Sheridan RoadChicago, IL 60626-2012

SE 10/28/2008

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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM

Safety to Life

Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016

SAF-AXM

Mark A. Herrera

PrincipalInternational Association of Venue Managers635 Fritz Drive, Suite 100Coppell, TX 75019-4462

U 04/08/2015SAF-AXM

David W. Hollinger

PrincipalDrexel University3201 Arch Street, Suite 350Philadelphia, PA 19104-2756

U 03/03/2014

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Jonathan Humble

PrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute45 South Main Street, Suite 312West Hartford, CT 06107-2402Alternate: Farid Alfawakhiri

M 7/20/2000SAF-AXM

Kenneth F. Keberle

PrincipalArena Americas2537 East Huntington DriveTempe, AZ 85282-4161

U 10/18/2011

SAF-AXM

John Lake

PrincipalCity of Gainesville306 NE 6th Avenue, Building BGainesville, FL 32602-0490Alternate: Mark V. Smith

E 4/3/2003SAF-AXM

Josh Lambert

PrincipalUniversity of Texas at Austin304 East 24th Street, Suite 202ADMail Code C2600Austin, TX 78712

U 07/29/2013

SAF-AXM

Gregory R. Miller

PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235National Association of Theatre OwnersAlternate: Gene Boecker

U 1/1/1991SAF-AXM

Jake Pauls

PrincipalJake Pauls Consulting Services255 Glenlake Avenue, Suite 2207Toronto, ON M6P 1G2 Canada

SE 4/1/1993

SAF-AXM

Vincent Quinterno

PrincipalRhode Island State Fire Marshal’s Office1 Capitol HillProvidence, RI 02908

E 8/5/2009SAF-AXM

Ed Roether

PrincipalEd Roether Consulting LLC25950 Mission BelleviewLouisburg, KS 66053

SE 7/20/2000

SAF-AXM

Karl G. Ruling

PrincipalEntertainment Services & Technology Association630 Ninth Avenue, Suite 609New York, NY 10036US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Alternate: Jerrold S. Gorrell

U 4/5/2001SAF-AXM

Steven J. Scandaliato

PrincipalSDG, LLCP.O. Box 19798Fountain Hills, AZ 85269American Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Thomas G. Wellen

IM 1/15/2004

SAF-AXM

Charles J. Schweitzer

PrincipalCity of LincolnBureau of Fire Prevention555 South 10th StreetLincoln, NE 68508Alternate: Robert D. Fiedler

E 03/05/2012SAF-AXM

Philip R. Sherman

PrincipalPhilip R. Sherman, PE444 Wilmot Center RoadPO Box 216Elkins, NH 03233-0216

SE 1/1/1989

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Safety to Life

Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016

SAF-AXM

Elbert R. Thomas, Jr.

PrincipalNew Orleans Fire Department317 Decatur StreetNew Orleans, LA 70130-1023Alternate: Julie A. Little

E 03/05/2012SAF-AXM

Janet A. Washburn

PrincipalCity of Hollywood Fire Department2741 Stirling RoadHollywood, FL 33312International Fire Marshals AssociationLocalAlternate: Scott W. Adams

E 04/08/2015

SAF-AXM

Scott W. Adams

AlternatePark City Fire Service DistrictPO Box 980010Park City, UT 84098-0010International Fire Marshals AssociationLocalPrincipal: Janet A. Washburn

E 4/3/2003SAF-AXM

Farid Alfawakhiri

AlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute380 Cottonwood LaneNaperville, IL 60540-5020Principal: Jonathan Humble

M 7/23/2008

SAF-AXM

Gene Boecker

AlternateCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235National Association of Theatre OwnersPrincipal: Gregory R. Miller

U 1/12/2000SAF-AXM

David Cook

AlternateRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227Principal: Ralph D. Gerdes

SE 1/17/1997

SAF-AXM

Robert D. Fiedler

AlternateCity of LincolnBureau of Fire Prevention555 South 10th StreetLincoln, NE 68508Principal: Charles J. Schweitzer

E 1/1/1991SAF-AXM

Jerrold S. Gorrell

AlternateTheatre Safety Programs15514 East Bumblebee LaneFountain Hills, AZ 85268US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Principal: Karl G. Ruling

U 4/3/2003

SAF-AXM

Christopher M. Jenkins

AlternateChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsChurch Office Building50 East North TempleSalt Lake City, UT 84150-9001Principal: Max L. Gandy

U 03/03/2014SAF-AXM

David Kurasz

AlternateNew Jersey Fire Sprinkler Advisory Board2 King Arthur Court, Suite #1North Brunswick, NJ 08902-3381National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Lorrell Bush

M 08/11/2014

SAF-AXM

Julie A. Little

AlternateOffice of State Fire Marshal1450 Poydras Street, Suite 1500New Orleans, LA 70112-1526Principal: Elbert R. Thomas, Jr.

E 08/11/2014SAF-AXM

Jason A. Lupa

AlternateSiemens Industry, Inc.2000 Crawford Place, Suite 300Mrt. Laurel, NJ 08054-3920National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Daniel P. Finnegan

M 04/08/2015

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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM

Safety to Life

Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016

SAF-AXM

Mark V. Smith

AlternateAlachua County Fire RescueFire Prevention BureauPO Box 5038Gainesville, FL 32602Principal: John Lake

E 1/15/2004SAF-AXM

Thomas G. Wellen

AlternateAmerican Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.12750 Merit Drive, Suite 350Dallas, TX 75251Principal: Steven J. Scandaliato

IM 7/26/2007

SAF-AXM

Toby J. White

AlternateArup955 Massachusetts AvenueSuite 402Cambridge, MA 02139-3180Principal: Jeffrey S. Tubbs

SE 08/09/2012SAF-AXM

Gregory E. Harrington

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

2/3/2016

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MINUTES

NFPA Technical Committee on Assembly Occupancies

NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 First Draft Meeting August 24, 2015

InterContinental Milwaukee

Milwaukee, WI

1. Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Jeff Tubbs at 8:00 a.m. on

August 24, 2015 at the InterContinental Milwaukee Hotel, Milwaukee, WI.

2. Self-introductions. Self-introductions were made by committee members and guests.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT

NAME COMPANY

Jeffrey Tubbs, Chair Arup

Ron Coté, Nonvoting Secretary National Fire Protection Association

Raymond Battalora, Principal Aon Fire Protection Engineering

Barry Brazell, Principal Cirque Du Soleil

Lorrell Bush, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association

George Bushey, Principal Rosser International

William Conner, Principal Bill Conner Associates LLC

Rep.: American Society of Theater Consultants

Daniel Finnegan, Principal Siemens Industry, Inc.

Rep.: National Electrical Manufacturers

Association

Max Gandy, Principal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Jerrold Gorrell, Alt. to K. Ruling Theatre Safety Programs

Rep.: US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.

Harold Hansen, Principal Venue Management Consultants Group, LLC

David Hollinger, Principal Drexel University

Christopher Jenkins, Alt. to M.

Gandy

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

David Kurasz, Alt. to L. Bush New Jersey Fire Sprinkler Association

Rep.: National Fire Sprinkler Association

Josh Lambert, Principal University of Texas at Austin

Julie Little, Alt. to E. Thomas, Jr. Office of Louisiana State Fire Marshal

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Gregory Miller, Principal Code Consultants, Inc.

Rep.: National Association of Theatre Owners

Jake Pauls, Principal Jake Pauls Consulting Services

Steven Peavey, Principal Altamonte Springs Building Fire Safety Division

Rep.: Florida Fire Marshals & Inspectors

Association

Vincent Quinterno, Principal Rhode Island State Fire Marshal’s Office

Ed Roether, Principal Ed Roether Consulting LLC

Steven Scandaliato, Principal SDG, LLC

Rep.: American Fire Sprinkler Association

Philip Sherman, Principal Phillip R. Sherman, PE

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT

NAME COMPANY

Scott Adams, Principal Park City Fire Service District

Rep.: International Fire Marshals Association

Ralph Gerdes, Principal Ralph Gerdes Consultants LLC

Mark Herrera, Principal International Associations of Venue Managers

Jonathan Humble, Principal American Iron and Steel Institute

Kenneth Keberle, Principal Arena Americas

John Lake, Principal City of Gainesville, FL

Charles Schweitzer, Principal City of Lincoln, NE

GUESTS

NAME COMPANY

Daniel Gorham National Fire Protection Association

Holly Roderick National Fire Protection Association

3. Approval of June 24, 2013 second draft meeting minutes. The minutes were approved

as distributed.

4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. Staff explained the revision schedule and

particulars for committee actions at the First Draft meeting via the slides included in the

agenda.

5. Correlating committee minutes with direction for 2018 editions. The committee

reviewed the subject areas raised by the NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Correlating

Committees.

6. Core chapters, first revisions of interest. The committee reviewed key changes made to

the core chapters by the FUN, MEA, FIR, BSF and INT committees, especially those

formatted with the words “where required by Chapters 11 through 43” and, thus, need to

be referenced specifically within the occupancy chapters if they are to apply. First

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Revisions (FRs) and, in some cases, Committee Inputs (CIs) were drafted, as deemed

appropriate by the committee.

7. Aisle terminations task group. First Revisions (FRs) were developed to address the

subject. The task group, consisting of Ed Roether – Chair, George Bushey, Bill Conner,

Jake Pauls, Vincent Quinterno and Phil Sherman was retained on the agenda.

8. Evaluation of Smoke-Protected Assembly Seating Capacity Factors. The subject was

retained on the agenda.

9. Sightline-Constrained Railing Height. Harold Hansen agreed to take the lead in

working with committee chair Jeff Tubbs to prepare a request for a Fire Protection

Research Foundation (FPRF) project. The subject was retained on the agenda.

10. Life Safety Evaluation Threshold of Occupant Load >6000. The subject was retained

on the agenda.

11. Stage Venting Actuation Devices. First Revisions (FRs) were developed to address the

subject. The task group was discharged.

12. Impact evaluation protocol – Station nightclub fire. Information noted as received.

13. Action on 2015 edition TIAs. Public Inputs (PIs) resolved with statement that the

changes made by the TIAs in time for the publishing of the 2015 edition were

appropriate.

14. NFPA 101 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 101 Public Inputs (PI) were addressed.

First Revisions (FR) and Committee Inputs (CI) were prepared as needed.

15. NFPA 5000 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 5000 Public Inputs (PI) were addressed.

First Revisions (FR) and Committee Inputs (CI) were prepared as needed.

16. Other business. None.

17. Future meetings. The committee will need to meet for Second Draft preparation

approximately the third week of July 2016 along with other occupancy chapter

committees.

18. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 4:50 p.m.

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Comment Stage (Second Draft):Public Comment Closing Date: May 16, 2016Second Draft Meetings: June 20-23 and July 18-22, 2016Posting of Second Draft for Balloting Date: September 5, 2016Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: January 16, 2017

Tech Session Preparation:NITMAM Closing Date: February 20, 2017NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: April 17, 2017NFPA Annual Meeting: June 4-7, 2017

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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]

New Section

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

101_CCN_45.pdf 101 CC Note #45 ✓

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 45 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review the additional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 7.2.1.5.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC

Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 15:06:01 EST 2016

Copyright Assignment

I, CC ON SAF_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including boththe Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 11:51:19 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review theadditional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

11 Eligible Voters

0 Not Returned

11 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Affirmative All

Bush, Kenneth E.

Hopper, Howard

Hrustich, Stephen

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund

Koffel, William E.

Pauls, Jake

Quiter, James R.

Reiswig, Rodger

Reynolds, Ronald C.

Rosenbaum, Eric R.

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First Correlating Revision No. 6-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.10.6 ]

7.2.1.5.10.7

Two releasing operations shall be permitted for educational occupancy classroom doors secured against unwanted entry inaccordance with the provisions of Chapter 15 .

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 07:55:19 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

Committee Statement: The new provision of 7.2.1.5.10.7 is needed so that the new provisions of 15.2.2.2.4 do not conflict with Chapter 7.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

11 Eligible Voters

0 Not Returned

11 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Affirmative All

Bush, Kenneth E.

Hopper, Howard

Hrustich, Stephen

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund

Koffel, William E.

Pauls, Jake

Quiter, James R.

Reiswig, Rodger

Reynolds, Ronald C.

Rosenbaum, Eric R.

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]

Add New Section after 9.13

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

101_CCN_16.pdf 101 CC Note #16 ✓

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 16 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 9.13]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC

Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 09:37:17 EST 2016

Copyright Assignment

I, CC ON SAF_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including boththe Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am CC ON SAF_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature

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Correlating Committee Note No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 08:26:18 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

11 Eligible Voters

0 Not Returned

11 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Affirmative All

Bush, Kenneth E.

Hopper, Howard

Hrustich, Stephen

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund

Koffel, William E.

Pauls, Jake

Quiter, James R.

Reiswig, Rodger

Reynolds, Ronald C.

Rosenbaum, Eric R.

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First Revision No. 1006-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 9.13 ]

9.14 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.

9.14.1 Where Required.

Where required by Chapters 11 through 43 , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance with therequirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 9.14.2 through 9.14.4 .

9.14.2 Considerations.

The risk analysis required by 9.14.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:

(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies

(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility

(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations

9.14.3 Emergency Communications System.

An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where need for such is identified by the riskanalysis required by 9.14.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.

9.14.4 Emergency Action Plan.

The completed emergency action plan in accordance with Section 4.8 shall be used for the design of the massnotification/emergency communications system.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-BSF

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Jul 29 18:09:15 EDT 2015

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

This first revision seeks to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for occupancieswhere required by Chapters 11-43. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus inthe 20th century in response to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recentincidents that occurred in our college/university campuses, and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to befollowed for life safety. [Aurora, CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; WeatherTornadoes/Storms]. //

The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop was held December 3–4, 2014 inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. The resulting report highlights the need for real timecommunication systems in appropriate occupancies. //

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to emergency communication systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //

This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification system.The process of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //

A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the proposed material in Ch. 9. The committee requests theCorrelating Committee review this action in conjunction with any related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancychapter committees to ensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the Correlating Committeereview the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment to recommend any needed changes to accommodatethe addition of the proposed language.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results

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This item has passed ballot

28 Eligible Voters

5 Not Returned

22 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

1 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Chen, Flora F.

Donga, Paul M.

Grill, Raymond A.

Noveh, James

Szmanda, Michael R.

Affirmative All

Bradley, Harry L.

Brinkman, Kevin L.

Brock, Pat D.

Dale, Stephen E.

Hagood, Claudia

Hammerberg, Thomas P.

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Hutton, Claude O.

Jardin, Joseph M.

Kellett, Michael

Killian, David A.

Klepitch, David L.

Lazarz, Daniel J.

Moore, Wayne D.

Panowitz, Scott E.

Reiswig, Rodger

Roberts, Richard Jay

Ruchala, Kurt A.

Shudak, Lawrence J.

Warner, Todd W.

Wren, Carl D.

Wyatt, David M.

Negative with Comment

Larrimer, Peter A.

As written, this is not ready to be accepted in the Life Safety Code. The text has numerous problems.

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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]

Add new section after 12.3.4

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

101_CCN_20.pdf 101 CC Note #20

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 20 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative to dining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portable equipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have been duplicated.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 12.3.4]

Submitter Information Verification

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Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 09:57:12 EST 2016

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Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 08:52:22 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative todining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portableequipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have beenduplicated.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

11 Eligible Voters

0 Not Returned

11 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Affirmative All

Bush, Kenneth E.

Hopper, Howard

Hrustich, Stephen

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund

Koffel, William E.

Pauls, Jake

Quiter, James R.

Reiswig, Rodger

Reynolds, Ronald C.

Rosenbaum, Eric R.

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First Revision No. 10-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]

12.3.4.4 Carbon Monoxide Detection.

12.3.4.4.1

New assembly occupancies shall be provided with carbon monoxide detection and warning equipment in accordance with Section9.12 in the locations specified as follows:

(1) On the ceilings of rooms containing permanently installed fuel-burning appliances

(2) Centrally located within occupiable spaces served by the first supply air register from permanently installed, fuel burning HVACsystems

(3) Centrally located within occupiable spaces adjacent to a communicating attached garage

(4) Centrally located within occupiable spaces adjacent to an attached garage with a separation wall constructed of gypsumwallboard

12.3.4.4.2

Carbon monoxide detectors as specified in 12.3.4.4.1 shall not be required in the following locations:

(1) Garages

(2) Occupiable spaces with communicating attached garages that are open parking structures as defined in 3.3.276.7.4

(3) Occupiable spaces with communicating attached garages that are mechanically ventilated in accordance with the mechanicalcode

(4) Occupiable spaces having a separation wall constructed of gypsum wallboard with attached garages that are open parkingstructures as defined in 3.3.276.7.4

(5) Occupiable spaces having a separation wall constructed of gypsum wallboard with attached garages that are mechanicallyventilated in accordance with the mechanical code

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: SAF-AXM

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Aug 24 15:15:12 EDT 2015

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

This First Revision (FR) is intended to protect the public and workers from serious injury or possibly death from unintentionalnon-fire related carbon monoxide (CO) exposure by mandating the installation of CO detection devices in assembly occupancies.This FR models the location requirements for assembly occupancies after the requirements in the 2015 edition of NFPA 101 for COdetection in schools as a basis.

In the absence of a model building code for the installation of CO detection in restaurants many jurisdictions are developing theirown regulations with varying installation requirements. This First Revision adds the needed model language.

Public Input No. 241-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 12.3.4]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

26 Eligible Voters

3 Not Returned

22 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

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1 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Bush, Lorrell

Bushey, George D.

Herrera, Mark A.

Affirmative All

Adams, Scott W.

Battalora, Raymond J.

Conner, William

Finnegan, Daniel P.

Gandy, Max L.

Gerdes, Ralph D.

Hansen, Harold C.

Hollinger, David W.

Keberle, Kenneth F.

Lake, John

Lambert, Josh

Little, Julie A.

Miller, Gregory R.

Pauls, Jake

Peavey, Steven W.

Quinterno, Vincent

Roether, Ed

Ruling, Karl G.

Scandaliato, Steven J.

Schweitzer, Charles J.

Sherman, Philip R.

Tubbs, Jeffrey S.

Negative with Comment

Humble, Jonathan

Please see attached pdf file for negative comment.

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Humble Ballots – 5000‐AXM‐FR6  101‐AXM‐FR10 12 November 2015 

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AXM‐5000‐FR‐6 AXM‐101‐FR‐10  Jonathan Humble (Primary Voting Member – AISI) 2015‐11‐12  Negative I am voting negative to these proposals (5000‐FR‐6, and 101‐FR‐10), for the following reasons: 

The proposal needs further development and clarity,  

The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language, and 

There are duplicate provisions.  Preamble As written this provision would apply to all assembly occupancies, which includes:   Area used for gathering of 50 or more persons for deliberation, worship, entertainment, eating, drinking, amusement, awaiting transit, or other similar uses.  As written the provision would also apply to all garages, which includes: parking garage (e.g. open parking structures, enclosed parking structures), private garages, and repair garages.  As written this proposal is intended to require a warning device or system about the presence  of a deadly gas penetrating into an occupiable space from three sources: Vehicles, fuel‐based mechanical equipment, and fuel based appliances.   The proposal needs further development  The language being proposed needs to achieve greater maturity.   Example #1, is the question “It is not the intent to prohibit the CO2 from entering the occupialbe space, in most cases, in the first place?” So where are the provisions to design for and construct for the subject separation walls to be wrapped, sealed, caulked, gasketed, or taped in order to prevent the CO2 from entering in the first place? This above all represents a gaping hole in the concept of preventing occupants from being exposed to CO2 in the first place.   Example #2, since assembly occupancies subset includes eating and dining establishments, “why are there no provisions addressing those eating and dining establishments which have cooking areas open to the dining area?” This would seem to be an obvious since adjacent to the dining area is an area with fuel‐burning commercial kitchen appliances, much like the relationship between an occupiable space and a garage where the emphasis is to locate the detector in the occupiable space.  

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Example #3; “Do “fuel burning appliances also include fireplaces?” (See NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances)   This brings into question what is an “appliance”? Do we use NFPA 211 definition in this proposal which defines “appliance” as “any device that utilizes a fuel to produces light, heat, power, refrigeration, or air conditioning.” Further, NFPA 5000 Section 15.3.5(6) states: “Frames of electric ranges, wall‐mounted ovens, counter mounted cooking units, clothes dryers, and outlet or junction boxes that are part of the existing branch circuit for these appliances….” This needs to get straightened out.  Example #4; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #1, refers to permanently installed fuel burning appliances. This was apparently copied from language from other portions of NFPA 5000 (e.g. Sections 17.3.4.4.1, 22.3.4.2, 23.3.4.6.1, 24.3.4.10.3, etc.), however the only appliances I am aware of that are “permanent” are those in a commercial kitchen. Appliances in lunch rooms, business occupancies, and the like are not fastened to the floor or wall assembly and are considered portable (or not permanent), and therefore would be exempt from subpart #1. Further, when looking at the application of the phrase “permanently installed” one finds in NFPA 5000 that it applies to such objects as walls, partitions, casework, pools, etc. which suggests that same degree of permanence as an object fastened, bolted, etc. The question is “was that the intent?”  Example #5; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #2, refers to centrally locating the detector in the occupiable space. However, the question arises “Was it the intent to centrally locate a single detector in the occupiable space no matter what square footage or volume the space is?” This needs further work to address both the limitations of the manufactured detectors in the market and the intent of the proposal. This argument also applies to Section 16.3.4.4.1 subpart #4 also.  Example #6; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #4, is punitive and will yield unintended results. While I appreciate the findings of the Fire Protection Research Foundation Report entitled “Carbon Monoxide Diffusion through Porous Walls: A Critical Review of Literature and incidents” dated February 2015, which discuss only gypsum board’s characteristics, the reality is that all wall assemblies are porous. We know this from research and testing which has been done for the national model energy codes (e.g. Moisture and air transport through wall assemblies, a.k.a. air barrier designs). Further, there is an enforcement issue. One interpretation of the current language would be if a building were to have a concrete masonry wall between the occupiable space and the garage there would not be a need for a CO2 detector to be installed. However, once a single layer of gypsum board is applied to that CMU wall a CO2 would be required because the subject wall was constructed with gypsum board. Therefore, this raises the question about being too literal in the assignment of material types to a national model code provision. It would be more appropriate to have all wall assembly construction types included.  The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language 

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In its current state the provisions appear too broad thus raising the question about consistent and predicable enforcement, and the design community’s ability to design a building with enough confidence that the construction documents will be accepted at time of permit submission. The proposal should receive another review to more effectively elaborate the prescriptive approach that is desired.  There are duplicate provisions I would draw your attention to proposed Section 16.3.4.4.2.  Exceptions #2 and #4 are effectively identical. Both state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with adjacent to an open parking structure. Exception #4 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.   Exception #3 and #5 suffer from the same duplication. Both exceptions state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with an enclosed parking structure which is mechanically ventilated. Again, Exception #5 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.    

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Public Comment No. 217-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 12.4.6.11.4 ]

12.4.6.11.4

In theaters, motion picture theaters, and television stage settings, performance halls and music club venues, with or withouthorizontal projections, and in simulated caves and caverns of foamed plastic, any single fuel package shall have a heat release ratenot to exceed 100 kW where tested in accordance with one of the following:

(1) ANSI/UL 1975, Standard for Fire Tests for Foamed Plastics Used for Decorative Purposes

(2) NFPA 289 using the 20 kW ignition source

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This provision should not be limited to theater and television hall exposures for obvious reasons.

Related Item

Public Input No. 180-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 10.2]

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Organization: Northern Risk LLC

Affilliation: Self

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Public Comment No. 107-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 12.7.6.1 ]

12.7.6.1

Assembly occupancies shall be provided with a minimum of one trained crowd manager or crowd manager supervisor at all timesthat the facility is in operation . Where the occupant load exceeds 250, additional trained crowd managers or crowd managersupervisors shall be provided at a ratio of one crowd manager or crowd manager supervisor for every 250 occupants, unlessotherwise permitted by one of the following:

(1) This requirement shall not apply to assembly occupancies used exclusively for religious worship with an occupant load notexceeding 500.

(2) The ratio of trained crowd managers to occupants shall be permitted to be reduced where, in the opinion of the AHJ, theexistence of an approved, supervised automatic sprinkler system and the nature of the event warrant.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

More clearly define the importance of trained crowd managers within assembly occupancies. In certain assembly occupancies there may be trained crowd managers at certain times of operation or on certain shifts, but it is a requirement to have one trained personnel always based on the potential for emergency. It will aid in protection of occupants and mitigate further risk from uncontrolled crowds in an emergency.

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Public Input No. 409-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 39.2.2.2.1]

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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 4.5.5.4 ]

4.5.5.4

Where required by Chapters 15 through 31 and 33, construction, alteration, and demolition operations shall comply with NFPA 241.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

5000_CCN_5.pdf 5000 CC Note #5

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 5 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 and consider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read as follows:

XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.

These action will be considered as a public comment.

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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 5000-2016 [New Section after 4.5.5.3]

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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 4.5.5.3 ]

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Organization: [ Not Specified ]

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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 13:51:50 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 andconsider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read asfollows:

XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.

These action will be considered as a public comment.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

18 Eligible Voters

2 Not Returned

15 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Newman, Michael T.

Wooldridge, Jerry

Affirmative All

DiCristina, Salvatore

Frable, David W.

Francis, Sam W.

Hansen, Raymond N.

Harrington, John C.

Hopper, Howard

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Humble, Jonathan

Jones, Gerald H.

Leavitt, Russell B.

Quiter, James R.

Roberts, Richard Jay

Shah, Faimeen

Vinci, Leon F.

Willse, Peter J.

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Affirmative with Comment

Laramee, Scott T.

No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.

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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 16.3.4.3.7 ]

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

5000_CCN_20.pdf 5000 CC Note #20

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 20 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative to dining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portable equipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have been duplicated.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

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Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 5000-2016 [New Section after 16.3.4.3.7]

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Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 16.3.4.3.7 ]

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Submitter Full Name: BLD-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 14:55:47 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative todining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portableequipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have beenduplicated.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

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2 Not Returned

15 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Newman, Michael T.

Wooldridge, Jerry

Affirmative All

DiCristina, Salvatore

Frable, David W.

Francis, Sam W.

Hansen, Raymond N.

Harrington, John C.

Hopper, Howard

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Humble, Jonathan

Jones, Gerald H.

Leavitt, Russell B.

Quiter, James R.

Roberts, Richard Jay

Shah, Faimeen

Vinci, Leon F.

Willse, Peter J.

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Laramee, Scott T.

No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.

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First Correlating Revision No. 6-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.10.6 ]

7.2.1.5.10.7

Two releasing operations shall be permitted for educational occupancy classroom doors secured against unwanted entry inaccordance with the provisions of Chapter 15 .

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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

Committee Statement: The new provision of 7.2.1.5.10.7 is needed so that the new provisions of 15.2.2.2.4 do not conflict with Chapter 7.

Ballot Results

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0 Affirmative with Comments

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0 Abstention

Affirmative All

Bush, Kenneth E.

Hopper, Howard

Hrustich, Stephen

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund

Koffel, William E.

Pauls, Jake

Quiter, James R.

Reiswig, Rodger

Reynolds, Ronald C.

Rosenbaum, Eric R.

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AXM‐5000‐FR‐6 AXM‐101‐FR‐10  Jonathan Humble (Primary Voting Member – AISI) 2015‐11‐12  Negative I am voting negative to these proposals (5000‐FR‐6, and 101‐FR‐10), for the following reasons: 

The proposal needs further development and clarity,  

The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language, and 

There are duplicate provisions.  Preamble As written this provision would apply to all assembly occupancies, which includes:   Area used for gathering of 50 or more persons for deliberation, worship, entertainment, eating, drinking, amusement, awaiting transit, or other similar uses.  As written the provision would also apply to all garages, which includes: parking garage (e.g. open parking structures, enclosed parking structures), private garages, and repair garages.  As written this proposal is intended to require a warning device or system about the presence  of a deadly gas penetrating into an occupiable space from three sources: Vehicles, fuel‐based mechanical equipment, and fuel based appliances.   The proposal needs further development  The language being proposed needs to achieve greater maturity.   Example #1, is the question “It is not the intent to prohibit the CO2 from entering the occupialbe space, in most cases, in the first place?” So where are the provisions to design for and construct for the subject separation walls to be wrapped, sealed, caulked, gasketed, or taped in order to prevent the CO2 from entering in the first place? This above all represents a gaping hole in the concept of preventing occupants from being exposed to CO2 in the first place.   Example #2, since assembly occupancies subset includes eating and dining establishments, “why are there no provisions addressing those eating and dining establishments which have cooking areas open to the dining area?” This would seem to be an obvious since adjacent to the dining area is an area with fuel‐burning commercial kitchen appliances, much like the relationship between an occupiable space and a garage where the emphasis is to locate the detector in the occupiable space.  

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Example #3; “Do “fuel burning appliances also include fireplaces?” (See NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances)   This brings into question what is an “appliance”? Do we use NFPA 211 definition in this proposal which defines “appliance” as “any device that utilizes a fuel to produces light, heat, power, refrigeration, or air conditioning.” Further, NFPA 5000 Section 15.3.5(6) states: “Frames of electric ranges, wall‐mounted ovens, counter mounted cooking units, clothes dryers, and outlet or junction boxes that are part of the existing branch circuit for these appliances….” This needs to get straightened out.  Example #4; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #1, refers to permanently installed fuel burning appliances. This was apparently copied from language from other portions of NFPA 5000 (e.g. Sections 17.3.4.4.1, 22.3.4.2, 23.3.4.6.1, 24.3.4.10.3, etc.), however the only appliances I am aware of that are “permanent” are those in a commercial kitchen. Appliances in lunch rooms, business occupancies, and the like are not fastened to the floor or wall assembly and are considered portable (or not permanent), and therefore would be exempt from subpart #1. Further, when looking at the application of the phrase “permanently installed” one finds in NFPA 5000 that it applies to such objects as walls, partitions, casework, pools, etc. which suggests that same degree of permanence as an object fastened, bolted, etc. The question is “was that the intent?”  Example #5; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #2, refers to centrally locating the detector in the occupiable space. However, the question arises “Was it the intent to centrally locate a single detector in the occupiable space no matter what square footage or volume the space is?” This needs further work to address both the limitations of the manufactured detectors in the market and the intent of the proposal. This argument also applies to Section 16.3.4.4.1 subpart #4 also.  Example #6; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #4, is punitive and will yield unintended results. While I appreciate the findings of the Fire Protection Research Foundation Report entitled “Carbon Monoxide Diffusion through Porous Walls: A Critical Review of Literature and incidents” dated February 2015, which discuss only gypsum board’s characteristics, the reality is that all wall assemblies are porous. We know this from research and testing which has been done for the national model energy codes (e.g. Moisture and air transport through wall assemblies, a.k.a. air barrier designs). Further, there is an enforcement issue. One interpretation of the current language would be if a building were to have a concrete masonry wall between the occupiable space and the garage there would not be a need for a CO2 detector to be installed. However, once a single layer of gypsum board is applied to that CMU wall a CO2 would be required because the subject wall was constructed with gypsum board. Therefore, this raises the question about being too literal in the assignment of material types to a national model code provision. It would be more appropriate to have all wall assembly construction types included.  The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language 

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In its current state the provisions appear too broad thus raising the question about consistent and predicable enforcement, and the design community’s ability to design a building with enough confidence that the construction documents will be accepted at time of permit submission. The proposal should receive another review to more effectively elaborate the prescriptive approach that is desired.  There are duplicate provisions I would draw your attention to proposed Section 16.3.4.4.2.  Exceptions #2 and #4 are effectively identical. Both state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with adjacent to an open parking structure. Exception #4 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.   Exception #3 and #5 suffer from the same duplication. Both exceptions state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with an enclosed parking structure which is mechanically ventilated. Again, Exception #5 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.    

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Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

5000_CCN_38.pdf

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Related Item

Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [New Section after 55.12]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on BLD_AAC

Organization: NFPA CC ON BUILDING CODE

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Submittal Date: Mon Mar 07 14:37:28 EST 2016

Copyright Assignment

I, CC on BLD_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both theProposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on BLD_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature

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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: BLD-AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 15:26:03 EST 2016

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.

This action will be considered as a public comment.

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

18 Eligible Voters

2 Not Returned

15 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Newman, Michael T.

Wooldridge, Jerry

Affirmative All

DiCristina, Salvatore

Frable, David W.

Francis, Sam W.

Hansen, Raymond N.

Harrington, John C.

Hopper, Howard

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Humble, Jonathan

Jones, Gerald H.

Leavitt, Russell B.

Quiter, James R.

Roberts, Richard Jay

Shah, Faimeen

Vinci, Leon F.

Willse, Peter J.

Affirmative with Comment

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Laramee, Scott T.

No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.

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First Revision No. 1505-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 55.12 ]

55.13 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.

55.13.1 Where Required.

Where required by another section of this Code , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance withthe requirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 55.13.2 through 55.13.4 .

55.13.2 Considerations.

The risk analysis required by 55.13.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:

(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies

(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility

(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations

55.13.3 Emergency Communications System.

An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where the need for such a system is identifiedby the risk analysis required by 55.13.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.

55.13.4 Emergency Action Plan.

The completed emergency action plan shall be used for the design guideline for the mass notification/emergency communicationssystem.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: BLD-BSF

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

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Submittal Date: Mon Aug 03 12:08:23 EDT 2015

Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

CommitteeStatement:

The purpose of this revision is to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for thefacility. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus in the 20th century inresponse to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recent incidents that occurredin our college/university campuses and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to be followed for life safety. [Aurora,CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; Weather Tornadoes/Storms]. //

The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop, was held December 3–4, 2014, inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. This report highlights the need for real time communicationsystems in appropriate occupancies. //

NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to Emergency Communication Systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //

This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification syste, theprocess of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //

A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the material in Ch. 55. The committee requests the CorrelatingCommittee review this action in conjunction with related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancy committees toensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the CC review the scope of BLD-BSF torecommend any needed changes to accommodate the addition of the proposed language. //

The task group will also address the reference to an emergency action plan, which is not currently required by NFPA 5000.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 73-NFPA 5000-2015 [New Section after 55.2]

Ballot Results

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This item has passed ballot

28 Eligible Voters

5 Not Returned

23 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Chen, Flora F.

Donga, Paul M.

Grill, Raymond A.

Noveh, James

Szmanda, Michael R.

Affirmative All

Bradley, Harry L.

Brock, Pat D.

Dale, Stephen E.

Hagood, Claudia

Hammerberg, Thomas P.

Hugo, Jeffrey M.

Hutton, Claude O.

Jardin, Joseph M.

Kellett, Michael

Killian, David A.

Klepitch, David L.

Larrimer, Peter A.

Lazarz, Daniel J.

Moore, Wayne D.

Nuschler, Gary L.

Panowitz, Scott E.

Reiswig, Rodger

Roberts, Richard Jay

Ruchala, Kurt A.

Shudak, Lawrence J.

Warner, Todd W.

Wren, Carl D.

Wyatt, David M.

Editorial Comment

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