AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Assembly Occupancies
NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Monday, July 18, 2016
Hilton Fort Lauderdale Marina Fort Lauderdale, Florida
1. Call to order. Call meeting to order by Chair Jeffrey Tubbs at 8:00 a.m. on July 18, 2016 at the Hilton Fort Lauderdale Marina, Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
2. Introduction of committee members and guests. For a current committee roster, see page 2.
3. Approval of August 24, 2015 first draft meeting minutes. See page 6.
4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. See page 9.
5. Aisle terminations task group report – Ed Roether, TG Chair.
6. Evaluation of Smoke-Protected Assembly Seating Capacity Factors.
7. Sightline-Constrained Railing Height – Harold Hansen.
8. Life Safety Evaluation Threshold of Occupant Load >6,000.
9. NFPA 101 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 26.
10. NFPA 5000 Second Draft preparation. For Public Comments, see page 42.
11. Other business.
12. Future meetings.
13. Adjournment.
Enclosures
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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016
SAF-AXM
Jeffrey S. Tubbs
ChairArup955 Massachusetts AvenueSuite 402Cambridge, MA 02139-3180Alternate: Toby J. White
SE 7/20/2000SAF-AXM
Gregory E. Harrington
Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
2/3/2016
SAF-AXM
Raymond J. Battalora
PrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering Corporation1701 North Collins BoulevardSuite 235Richardson, TX 75080-3553
I 3/15/2007SAF-AXM
Lorrell Bush
PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.2025 Droylsden LaneEustis, FL 32726National Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: David Kurasz
M 03/05/2012
SAF-AXM
George D. Bushey
PrincipalRosser International1550 Peachtree Street, Suite 800Atlanta, GA 30309
SE 4/5/2001SAF-AXM
Eric Center
PrincipalCedar Hammock Fire RescueFire Marshal5200 26th Street WestBradenton, FL 34207Florida Fire Marshals & Inspectors Association
E 08/09/2012
SAF-AXM
William Conner
PrincipalBill Conner Associates LLC637 North Marion StreetOak Park, IL 60302American Society of Theater Consultants
SE 1/1/1987SAF-AXM
Daniel P. Finnegan
PrincipalSiemens Industry, Inc.Building Technologies DivisionFire & Security2953 Exeter CourtWest Dundee, IL 60118-1724National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: Jason A. Lupa
M 3/2/2010
SAF-AXM
Max L. Gandy
PrincipalChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsAEC Division50 East North Temple Street12th Floor West WingSalt Lake City, UT 84150-0012Alternate: Christopher M. Jenkins
U 10/29/2012SAF-AXM
Ralph D. Gerdes
PrincipalRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227-1939Alternate: David Cook
SE 1/17/1997
SAF-AXM
Donald G. Goosman
PrincipalWiss, Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc.10 South Lasalle Street, Suite 2600Chicago, IL 60603-1017
SE 12/08/2015SAF-AXM
Harold C. Hansen
PrincipalVenue Management Consultants Group, LLC7414 North Sheridan RoadChicago, IL 60626-2012
SE 10/28/2008
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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016
SAF-AXM
Mark A. Herrera
PrincipalInternational Association of Venue Managers635 Fritz Drive, Suite 100Coppell, TX 75019-4462
U 04/08/2015SAF-AXM
David W. Hollinger
PrincipalDrexel University3201 Arch Street, Suite 350Philadelphia, PA 19104-2756
U 03/03/2014
SAF-AXM
Jonathan Humble
PrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute45 South Main Street, Suite 312West Hartford, CT 06107-2402Alternate: Farid Alfawakhiri
M 7/20/2000SAF-AXM
Kenneth F. Keberle
PrincipalArena Americas2537 East Huntington DriveTempe, AZ 85282-4161
U 10/18/2011
SAF-AXM
John Lake
PrincipalCity of Gainesville306 NE 6th Avenue, Building BGainesville, FL 32602-0490Alternate: Mark V. Smith
E 4/3/2003SAF-AXM
Josh Lambert
PrincipalUniversity of Texas at Austin304 East 24th Street, Suite 202ADMail Code C2600Austin, TX 78712
U 07/29/2013
SAF-AXM
Gregory R. Miller
PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235National Association of Theatre OwnersAlternate: Gene Boecker
U 1/1/1991SAF-AXM
Jake Pauls
PrincipalJake Pauls Consulting Services255 Glenlake Avenue, Suite 2207Toronto, ON M6P 1G2 Canada
SE 4/1/1993
SAF-AXM
Vincent Quinterno
PrincipalRhode Island State Fire Marshal’s Office1 Capitol HillProvidence, RI 02908
E 8/5/2009SAF-AXM
Ed Roether
PrincipalEd Roether Consulting LLC25950 Mission BelleviewLouisburg, KS 66053
SE 7/20/2000
SAF-AXM
Karl G. Ruling
PrincipalEntertainment Services & Technology Association630 Ninth Avenue, Suite 609New York, NY 10036US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Alternate: Jerrold S. Gorrell
U 4/5/2001SAF-AXM
Steven J. Scandaliato
PrincipalSDG, LLCP.O. Box 19798Fountain Hills, AZ 85269American Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Thomas G. Wellen
IM 1/15/2004
SAF-AXM
Charles J. Schweitzer
PrincipalCity of LincolnBureau of Fire Prevention555 South 10th StreetLincoln, NE 68508Alternate: Robert D. Fiedler
E 03/05/2012SAF-AXM
Philip R. Sherman
PrincipalPhilip R. Sherman, PE444 Wilmot Center RoadPO Box 216Elkins, NH 03233-0216
SE 1/1/1989
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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016
SAF-AXM
Elbert R. Thomas, Jr.
PrincipalNew Orleans Fire Department317 Decatur StreetNew Orleans, LA 70130-1023Alternate: Julie A. Little
E 03/05/2012SAF-AXM
Janet A. Washburn
PrincipalCity of Hollywood Fire Department2741 Stirling RoadHollywood, FL 33312International Fire Marshals AssociationLocalAlternate: Scott W. Adams
E 04/08/2015
SAF-AXM
Scott W. Adams
AlternatePark City Fire Service DistrictPO Box 980010Park City, UT 84098-0010International Fire Marshals AssociationLocalPrincipal: Janet A. Washburn
E 4/3/2003SAF-AXM
Farid Alfawakhiri
AlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute380 Cottonwood LaneNaperville, IL 60540-5020Principal: Jonathan Humble
M 7/23/2008
SAF-AXM
Gene Boecker
AlternateCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235National Association of Theatre OwnersPrincipal: Gregory R. Miller
U 1/12/2000SAF-AXM
David Cook
AlternateRalph Gerdes Consultants, LLC5510 South East Street, Suite EIndianapolis, IN 46227Principal: Ralph D. Gerdes
SE 1/17/1997
SAF-AXM
Robert D. Fiedler
AlternateCity of LincolnBureau of Fire Prevention555 South 10th StreetLincoln, NE 68508Principal: Charles J. Schweitzer
E 1/1/1991SAF-AXM
Jerrold S. Gorrell
AlternateTheatre Safety Programs15514 East Bumblebee LaneFountain Hills, AZ 85268US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Principal: Karl G. Ruling
U 4/3/2003
SAF-AXM
Christopher M. Jenkins
AlternateChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsChurch Office Building50 East North TempleSalt Lake City, UT 84150-9001Principal: Max L. Gandy
U 03/03/2014SAF-AXM
David Kurasz
AlternateNew Jersey Fire Sprinkler Advisory Board2 King Arthur Court, Suite #1North Brunswick, NJ 08902-3381National Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Lorrell Bush
M 08/11/2014
SAF-AXM
Julie A. Little
AlternateOffice of State Fire Marshal1450 Poydras Street, Suite 1500New Orleans, LA 70112-1526Principal: Elbert R. Thomas, Jr.
E 08/11/2014SAF-AXM
Jason A. Lupa
AlternateSiemens Industry, Inc.2000 Crawford Place, Suite 300Mrt. Laurel, NJ 08054-3920National Electrical Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Daniel P. Finnegan
M 04/08/2015
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Address List No PhoneAssembly Occupancies SAF-AXM
Safety to Life
Gregory E. Harrington06/03/2016
SAF-AXM
Mark V. Smith
AlternateAlachua County Fire RescueFire Prevention BureauPO Box 5038Gainesville, FL 32602Principal: John Lake
E 1/15/2004SAF-AXM
Thomas G. Wellen
AlternateAmerican Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.12750 Merit Drive, Suite 350Dallas, TX 75251Principal: Steven J. Scandaliato
IM 7/26/2007
SAF-AXM
Toby J. White
AlternateArup955 Massachusetts AvenueSuite 402Cambridge, MA 02139-3180Principal: Jeffrey S. Tubbs
SE 08/09/2012SAF-AXM
Gregory E. Harrington
Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471
2/3/2016
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MINUTES
NFPA Technical Committee on Assembly Occupancies
NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 First Draft Meeting August 24, 2015
InterContinental Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI
1. Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Jeff Tubbs at 8:00 a.m. on
August 24, 2015 at the InterContinental Milwaukee Hotel, Milwaukee, WI.
2. Self-introductions. Self-introductions were made by committee members and guests.
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT
NAME COMPANY
Jeffrey Tubbs, Chair Arup
Ron Coté, Nonvoting Secretary National Fire Protection Association
Raymond Battalora, Principal Aon Fire Protection Engineering
Barry Brazell, Principal Cirque Du Soleil
Lorrell Bush, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association
George Bushey, Principal Rosser International
William Conner, Principal Bill Conner Associates LLC
Rep.: American Society of Theater Consultants
Daniel Finnegan, Principal Siemens Industry, Inc.
Rep.: National Electrical Manufacturers
Association
Max Gandy, Principal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Jerrold Gorrell, Alt. to K. Ruling Theatre Safety Programs
Rep.: US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.
Harold Hansen, Principal Venue Management Consultants Group, LLC
David Hollinger, Principal Drexel University
Christopher Jenkins, Alt. to M.
Gandy
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
David Kurasz, Alt. to L. Bush New Jersey Fire Sprinkler Association
Rep.: National Fire Sprinkler Association
Josh Lambert, Principal University of Texas at Austin
Julie Little, Alt. to E. Thomas, Jr. Office of Louisiana State Fire Marshal
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Gregory Miller, Principal Code Consultants, Inc.
Rep.: National Association of Theatre Owners
Jake Pauls, Principal Jake Pauls Consulting Services
Steven Peavey, Principal Altamonte Springs Building Fire Safety Division
Rep.: Florida Fire Marshals & Inspectors
Association
Vincent Quinterno, Principal Rhode Island State Fire Marshal’s Office
Ed Roether, Principal Ed Roether Consulting LLC
Steven Scandaliato, Principal SDG, LLC
Rep.: American Fire Sprinkler Association
Philip Sherman, Principal Phillip R. Sherman, PE
TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
NAME COMPANY
Scott Adams, Principal Park City Fire Service District
Rep.: International Fire Marshals Association
Ralph Gerdes, Principal Ralph Gerdes Consultants LLC
Mark Herrera, Principal International Associations of Venue Managers
Jonathan Humble, Principal American Iron and Steel Institute
Kenneth Keberle, Principal Arena Americas
John Lake, Principal City of Gainesville, FL
Charles Schweitzer, Principal City of Lincoln, NE
GUESTS
NAME COMPANY
Daniel Gorham National Fire Protection Association
Holly Roderick National Fire Protection Association
3. Approval of June 24, 2013 second draft meeting minutes. The minutes were approved
as distributed.
4. The process – staff PowerPoint presentation. Staff explained the revision schedule and
particulars for committee actions at the First Draft meeting via the slides included in the
agenda.
5. Correlating committee minutes with direction for 2018 editions. The committee
reviewed the subject areas raised by the NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Correlating
Committees.
6. Core chapters, first revisions of interest. The committee reviewed key changes made to
the core chapters by the FUN, MEA, FIR, BSF and INT committees, especially those
formatted with the words “where required by Chapters 11 through 43” and, thus, need to
be referenced specifically within the occupancy chapters if they are to apply. First
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Revisions (FRs) and, in some cases, Committee Inputs (CIs) were drafted, as deemed
appropriate by the committee.
7. Aisle terminations task group. First Revisions (FRs) were developed to address the
subject. The task group, consisting of Ed Roether – Chair, George Bushey, Bill Conner,
Jake Pauls, Vincent Quinterno and Phil Sherman was retained on the agenda.
8. Evaluation of Smoke-Protected Assembly Seating Capacity Factors. The subject was
retained on the agenda.
9. Sightline-Constrained Railing Height. Harold Hansen agreed to take the lead in
working with committee chair Jeff Tubbs to prepare a request for a Fire Protection
Research Foundation (FPRF) project. The subject was retained on the agenda.
10. Life Safety Evaluation Threshold of Occupant Load >6000. The subject was retained
on the agenda.
11. Stage Venting Actuation Devices. First Revisions (FRs) were developed to address the
subject. The task group was discharged.
12. Impact evaluation protocol – Station nightclub fire. Information noted as received.
13. Action on 2015 edition TIAs. Public Inputs (PIs) resolved with statement that the
changes made by the TIAs in time for the publishing of the 2015 edition were
appropriate.
14. NFPA 101 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 101 Public Inputs (PI) were addressed.
First Revisions (FR) and Committee Inputs (CI) were prepared as needed.
15. NFPA 5000 First Draft preparation. All NFPA 5000 Public Inputs (PI) were addressed.
First Revisions (FR) and Committee Inputs (CI) were prepared as needed.
16. Other business. None.
17. Future meetings. The committee will need to meet for Second Draft preparation
approximately the third week of July 2016 along with other occupancy chapter
committees.
18. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 4:50 p.m.
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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]
New Section
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
101_CCN_45.pdf 101 CC Note #45 ✓
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 45 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review the additional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Related Item
Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [New Section after 7.2.1.5.3]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: CC ON SAF_AAC
Organization: NFPA CC ON SAFETY TO LIFE
Street Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Submittal Date: Thu Mar 03 15:06:01 EST 2016
Copyright Assignment
I, CC ON SAF_AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including boththe Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of theNFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power andauthority to enter into this copyright assignment.
By checking this box I affirm that I am CC ON SAF_AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. Iunderstand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as ahandwritten signature
National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/FormLaunch?id=/TerraView/C...
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Correlating Committee Note No. 45-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.3 ]
Submitter Information Verification
Submitter Full Name: SAF-AAC
Organization: [ Not Specified ]
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City:
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 11:51:19 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy committees (AXM, BCF, DET, END, RES, MER, IND, HEA) to review theadditional door locking allowances that are being proposed in FCR-6.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
This item has passed ballot
11 Eligible Voters
0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/FormLaunch?id=/TerraView/C...
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First Correlating Revision No. 6-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.10.6 ]
7.2.1.5.10.7
Two releasing operations shall be permitted for educational occupancy classroom doors secured against unwanted entry inaccordance with the provisions of Chapter 15 .
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Committee Statement: The new provision of 7.2.1.5.10.7 is needed so that the new provisions of 15.2.2.2.4 do not conflict with Chapter 7.
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11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
Add New Section after 9.13
Additional Proposed Changes
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101_CCN_16.pdf 101 CC Note #16 ✓
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 16 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 16-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
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First Revision No. 1006-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 9.13 ]
9.14 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
9.14.1 Where Required.
Where required by Chapters 11 through 43 , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance with therequirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 9.14.2 through 9.14.4 .
9.14.2 Considerations.
The risk analysis required by 9.14.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:
(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies
(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility
(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations
9.14.3 Emergency Communications System.
An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where need for such is identified by the riskanalysis required by 9.14.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.
9.14.4 Emergency Action Plan.
The completed emergency action plan in accordance with Section 4.8 shall be used for the design of the massnotification/emergency communications system.
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CommitteeStatement:
This first revision seeks to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for occupancieswhere required by Chapters 11-43. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus inthe 20th century in response to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recentincidents that occurred in our college/university campuses, and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to befollowed for life safety. [Aurora, CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; WeatherTornadoes/Storms]. //
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop was held December 3–4, 2014 inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. The resulting report highlights the need for real timecommunication systems in appropriate occupancies. //
NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to emergency communication systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //
This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification system.The process of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //
A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the proposed material in Ch. 9. The committee requests theCorrelating Committee review this action in conjunction with any related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancychapter committees to ensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the Correlating Committeereview the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment to recommend any needed changes to accommodatethe addition of the proposed language.
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This item has passed ballot
28 Eligible Voters
5 Not Returned
22 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
1 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Chen, Flora F.
Donga, Paul M.
Grill, Raymond A.
Noveh, James
Szmanda, Michael R.
Affirmative All
Bradley, Harry L.
Brinkman, Kevin L.
Brock, Pat D.
Dale, Stephen E.
Hagood, Claudia
Hammerberg, Thomas P.
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Hutton, Claude O.
Jardin, Joseph M.
Kellett, Michael
Killian, David A.
Klepitch, David L.
Lazarz, Daniel J.
Moore, Wayne D.
Panowitz, Scott E.
Reiswig, Rodger
Roberts, Richard Jay
Ruchala, Kurt A.
Shudak, Lawrence J.
Warner, Todd W.
Wren, Carl D.
Wyatt, David M.
Negative with Comment
Larrimer, Peter A.
As written, this is not ready to be accepted in the Life Safety Code. The text has numerous problems.
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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]
Add new section after 12.3.4
Additional Proposed Changes
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101_CCN_20.pdf 101 CC Note #20
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 20 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative to dining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portable equipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have been duplicated.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative todining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portableequipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have beenduplicated.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
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First Revision No. 10-NFPA 101-2015 [ New Section after 12.3.4 ]
12.3.4.4 Carbon Monoxide Detection.
12.3.4.4.1
New assembly occupancies shall be provided with carbon monoxide detection and warning equipment in accordance with Section9.12 in the locations specified as follows:
(1) On the ceilings of rooms containing permanently installed fuel-burning appliances
(2) Centrally located within occupiable spaces served by the first supply air register from permanently installed, fuel burning HVACsystems
(3) Centrally located within occupiable spaces adjacent to a communicating attached garage
(4) Centrally located within occupiable spaces adjacent to an attached garage with a separation wall constructed of gypsumwallboard
12.3.4.4.2
Carbon monoxide detectors as specified in 12.3.4.4.1 shall not be required in the following locations:
(1) Garages
(2) Occupiable spaces with communicating attached garages that are open parking structures as defined in 3.3.276.7.4
(3) Occupiable spaces with communicating attached garages that are mechanically ventilated in accordance with the mechanicalcode
(4) Occupiable spaces having a separation wall constructed of gypsum wallboard with attached garages that are open parkingstructures as defined in 3.3.276.7.4
(5) Occupiable spaces having a separation wall constructed of gypsum wallboard with attached garages that are mechanicallyventilated in accordance with the mechanical code
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CommitteeStatement:
This First Revision (FR) is intended to protect the public and workers from serious injury or possibly death from unintentionalnon-fire related carbon monoxide (CO) exposure by mandating the installation of CO detection devices in assembly occupancies.This FR models the location requirements for assembly occupancies after the requirements in the 2015 edition of NFPA 101 for COdetection in schools as a basis.
In the absence of a model building code for the installation of CO detection in restaurants many jurisdictions are developing theirown regulations with varying installation requirements. This First Revision adds the needed model language.
Public Input No. 241-NFPA 101-2015 [New Section after 12.3.4]
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Bush, Lorrell
Bushey, George D.
Herrera, Mark A.
Affirmative All
Adams, Scott W.
Battalora, Raymond J.
Conner, William
Finnegan, Daniel P.
Gandy, Max L.
Gerdes, Ralph D.
Hansen, Harold C.
Hollinger, David W.
Keberle, Kenneth F.
Lake, John
Lambert, Josh
Little, Julie A.
Miller, Gregory R.
Pauls, Jake
Peavey, Steven W.
Quinterno, Vincent
Roether, Ed
Ruling, Karl G.
Scandaliato, Steven J.
Schweitzer, Charles J.
Sherman, Philip R.
Tubbs, Jeffrey S.
Negative with Comment
Humble, Jonathan
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Humble Ballots – 5000‐AXM‐FR6 101‐AXM‐FR10 12 November 2015
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AXM‐5000‐FR‐6 AXM‐101‐FR‐10 Jonathan Humble (Primary Voting Member – AISI) 2015‐11‐12 Negative I am voting negative to these proposals (5000‐FR‐6, and 101‐FR‐10), for the following reasons:
The proposal needs further development and clarity,
The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language, and
There are duplicate provisions. Preamble As written this provision would apply to all assembly occupancies, which includes: Area used for gathering of 50 or more persons for deliberation, worship, entertainment, eating, drinking, amusement, awaiting transit, or other similar uses. As written the provision would also apply to all garages, which includes: parking garage (e.g. open parking structures, enclosed parking structures), private garages, and repair garages. As written this proposal is intended to require a warning device or system about the presence of a deadly gas penetrating into an occupiable space from three sources: Vehicles, fuel‐based mechanical equipment, and fuel based appliances. The proposal needs further development The language being proposed needs to achieve greater maturity. Example #1, is the question “It is not the intent to prohibit the CO2 from entering the occupialbe space, in most cases, in the first place?” So where are the provisions to design for and construct for the subject separation walls to be wrapped, sealed, caulked, gasketed, or taped in order to prevent the CO2 from entering in the first place? This above all represents a gaping hole in the concept of preventing occupants from being exposed to CO2 in the first place. Example #2, since assembly occupancies subset includes eating and dining establishments, “why are there no provisions addressing those eating and dining establishments which have cooking areas open to the dining area?” This would seem to be an obvious since adjacent to the dining area is an area with fuel‐burning commercial kitchen appliances, much like the relationship between an occupiable space and a garage where the emphasis is to locate the detector in the occupiable space.
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Humble Ballots – 5000‐AXM‐FR6 101‐AXM‐FR10 12 November 2015
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Example #3; “Do “fuel burning appliances also include fireplaces?” (See NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances) This brings into question what is an “appliance”? Do we use NFPA 211 definition in this proposal which defines “appliance” as “any device that utilizes a fuel to produces light, heat, power, refrigeration, or air conditioning.” Further, NFPA 5000 Section 15.3.5(6) states: “Frames of electric ranges, wall‐mounted ovens, counter mounted cooking units, clothes dryers, and outlet or junction boxes that are part of the existing branch circuit for these appliances….” This needs to get straightened out. Example #4; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #1, refers to permanently installed fuel burning appliances. This was apparently copied from language from other portions of NFPA 5000 (e.g. Sections 17.3.4.4.1, 22.3.4.2, 23.3.4.6.1, 24.3.4.10.3, etc.), however the only appliances I am aware of that are “permanent” are those in a commercial kitchen. Appliances in lunch rooms, business occupancies, and the like are not fastened to the floor or wall assembly and are considered portable (or not permanent), and therefore would be exempt from subpart #1. Further, when looking at the application of the phrase “permanently installed” one finds in NFPA 5000 that it applies to such objects as walls, partitions, casework, pools, etc. which suggests that same degree of permanence as an object fastened, bolted, etc. The question is “was that the intent?” Example #5; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #2, refers to centrally locating the detector in the occupiable space. However, the question arises “Was it the intent to centrally locate a single detector in the occupiable space no matter what square footage or volume the space is?” This needs further work to address both the limitations of the manufactured detectors in the market and the intent of the proposal. This argument also applies to Section 16.3.4.4.1 subpart #4 also. Example #6; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #4, is punitive and will yield unintended results. While I appreciate the findings of the Fire Protection Research Foundation Report entitled “Carbon Monoxide Diffusion through Porous Walls: A Critical Review of Literature and incidents” dated February 2015, which discuss only gypsum board’s characteristics, the reality is that all wall assemblies are porous. We know this from research and testing which has been done for the national model energy codes (e.g. Moisture and air transport through wall assemblies, a.k.a. air barrier designs). Further, there is an enforcement issue. One interpretation of the current language would be if a building were to have a concrete masonry wall between the occupiable space and the garage there would not be a need for a CO2 detector to be installed. However, once a single layer of gypsum board is applied to that CMU wall a CO2 would be required because the subject wall was constructed with gypsum board. Therefore, this raises the question about being too literal in the assignment of material types to a national model code provision. It would be more appropriate to have all wall assembly construction types included. The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language
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In its current state the provisions appear too broad thus raising the question about consistent and predicable enforcement, and the design community’s ability to design a building with enough confidence that the construction documents will be accepted at time of permit submission. The proposal should receive another review to more effectively elaborate the prescriptive approach that is desired. There are duplicate provisions I would draw your attention to proposed Section 16.3.4.4.2. Exceptions #2 and #4 are effectively identical. Both state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with adjacent to an open parking structure. Exception #4 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference. Exception #3 and #5 suffer from the same duplication. Both exceptions state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with an enclosed parking structure which is mechanically ventilated. Again, Exception #5 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.
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Public Comment No. 217-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 12.4.6.11.4 ]
12.4.6.11.4
In theaters, motion picture theaters, and television stage settings, performance halls and music club venues, with or withouthorizontal projections, and in simulated caves and caverns of foamed plastic, any single fuel package shall have a heat release ratenot to exceed 100 kW where tested in accordance with one of the following:
(1) ANSI/UL 1975, Standard for Fire Tests for Foamed Plastics Used for Decorative Purposes
(2) NFPA 289 using the 20 kW ignition source
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
This provision should not be limited to theater and television hall exposures for obvious reasons.
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Public Input No. 180-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 10.2]
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Public Comment No. 107-NFPA 101-2016 [ Section No. 12.7.6.1 ]
12.7.6.1
Assembly occupancies shall be provided with a minimum of one trained crowd manager or crowd manager supervisor at all timesthat the facility is in operation . Where the occupant load exceeds 250, additional trained crowd managers or crowd managersupervisors shall be provided at a ratio of one crowd manager or crowd manager supervisor for every 250 occupants, unlessotherwise permitted by one of the following:
(1) This requirement shall not apply to assembly occupancies used exclusively for religious worship with an occupant load notexceeding 500.
(2) The ratio of trained crowd managers to occupants shall be permitted to be reduced where, in the opinion of the AHJ, theexistence of an approved, supervised automatic sprinkler system and the nature of the event warrant.
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
More clearly define the importance of trained crowd managers within assembly occupancies. In certain assembly occupancies there may be trained crowd managers at certain times of operation or on certain shifts, but it is a requirement to have one trained personnel always based on the potential for emergency. It will aid in protection of occupants and mitigate further risk from uncontrolled crowds in an emergency.
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Public Input No. 409-NFPA 101-2015 [Section No. 39.2.2.2.1]
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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 5000-2016 [ Section No. 4.5.5.4 ]
4.5.5.4
Where required by Chapters 15 through 31 and 33, construction, alteration, and demolition operations shall comply with NFPA 241.
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
5000_CCN_5.pdf 5000 CC Note #5
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 5 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 and consider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read as follows:
XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.
These action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 5-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 4.5.5.3 ]
Submitter Information Verification
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 13:51:50 EST 2016
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the occupancy Technical Committees to consider reviewing new Section 4.5.5.4 andconsider for addition in their respective chapters correlative language to reference NFPA 241. The language would read asfollows:
XX.1.1.6 Where construction, alteration, or demolition operations are conducted, the provisions of 4.5.5.4 shall apply.
These action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
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18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
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Affirmative with Comment
Laramee, Scott T.
No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.
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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 16.3.4.3.7 ]
Additional Proposed Changes
File Name Description Approved
5000_CCN_20.pdf 5000 CC Note #20
Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 20 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative to dining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portable equipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have been duplicated.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 20-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 16.3.4.3.7 ]
Submitter Information Verification
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Submittal Date: Fri Jan 08 14:55:47 EST 2016
Committee Statement and Meeting Notes
CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Assembly Occupancies (AXM) to consider the Negative ballot of Humble relative todining spaces open to cooking areas; whether fireplaces are fuel-burning appliances; permanently installed versus portableequipment; use of the term “centrally-located” without respect to the size of the space; and whether some provisions have beenduplicated.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
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Laramee, Scott T.
No comment, but no way to accept as "affirmative" without accepting all as "affirmative in the ballot portal.
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First Correlating Revision No. 6-NFPA 101-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.1.5.10.6 ]
7.2.1.5.10.7
Two releasing operations shall be permitted for educational occupancy classroom doors secured against unwanted entry inaccordance with the provisions of Chapter 15 .
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Committee Statement: The new provision of 7.2.1.5.10.7 is needed so that the new provisions of 15.2.2.2.4 do not conflict with Chapter 7.
Ballot Results
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0 Not Returned
11 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Affirmative All
Bush, Kenneth E.
Hopper, Howard
Hrustich, Stephen
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Kalie, Jr., J. Edmund
Koffel, William E.
Pauls, Jake
Quiter, James R.
Reiswig, Rodger
Reynolds, Ronald C.
Rosenbaum, Eric R.
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Humble Ballots – 5000‐AXM‐FR6 101‐AXM‐FR10 12 November 2015
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AXM‐5000‐FR‐6 AXM‐101‐FR‐10 Jonathan Humble (Primary Voting Member – AISI) 2015‐11‐12 Negative I am voting negative to these proposals (5000‐FR‐6, and 101‐FR‐10), for the following reasons:
The proposal needs further development and clarity,
The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language, and
There are duplicate provisions. Preamble As written this provision would apply to all assembly occupancies, which includes: Area used for gathering of 50 or more persons for deliberation, worship, entertainment, eating, drinking, amusement, awaiting transit, or other similar uses. As written the provision would also apply to all garages, which includes: parking garage (e.g. open parking structures, enclosed parking structures), private garages, and repair garages. As written this proposal is intended to require a warning device or system about the presence of a deadly gas penetrating into an occupiable space from three sources: Vehicles, fuel‐based mechanical equipment, and fuel based appliances. The proposal needs further development The language being proposed needs to achieve greater maturity. Example #1, is the question “It is not the intent to prohibit the CO2 from entering the occupialbe space, in most cases, in the first place?” So where are the provisions to design for and construct for the subject separation walls to be wrapped, sealed, caulked, gasketed, or taped in order to prevent the CO2 from entering in the first place? This above all represents a gaping hole in the concept of preventing occupants from being exposed to CO2 in the first place. Example #2, since assembly occupancies subset includes eating and dining establishments, “why are there no provisions addressing those eating and dining establishments which have cooking areas open to the dining area?” This would seem to be an obvious since adjacent to the dining area is an area with fuel‐burning commercial kitchen appliances, much like the relationship between an occupiable space and a garage where the emphasis is to locate the detector in the occupiable space.
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Example #3; “Do “fuel burning appliances also include fireplaces?” (See NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–Burning Appliances) This brings into question what is an “appliance”? Do we use NFPA 211 definition in this proposal which defines “appliance” as “any device that utilizes a fuel to produces light, heat, power, refrigeration, or air conditioning.” Further, NFPA 5000 Section 15.3.5(6) states: “Frames of electric ranges, wall‐mounted ovens, counter mounted cooking units, clothes dryers, and outlet or junction boxes that are part of the existing branch circuit for these appliances….” This needs to get straightened out. Example #4; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #1, refers to permanently installed fuel burning appliances. This was apparently copied from language from other portions of NFPA 5000 (e.g. Sections 17.3.4.4.1, 22.3.4.2, 23.3.4.6.1, 24.3.4.10.3, etc.), however the only appliances I am aware of that are “permanent” are those in a commercial kitchen. Appliances in lunch rooms, business occupancies, and the like are not fastened to the floor or wall assembly and are considered portable (or not permanent), and therefore would be exempt from subpart #1. Further, when looking at the application of the phrase “permanently installed” one finds in NFPA 5000 that it applies to such objects as walls, partitions, casework, pools, etc. which suggests that same degree of permanence as an object fastened, bolted, etc. The question is “was that the intent?” Example #5; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #2, refers to centrally locating the detector in the occupiable space. However, the question arises “Was it the intent to centrally locate a single detector in the occupiable space no matter what square footage or volume the space is?” This needs further work to address both the limitations of the manufactured detectors in the market and the intent of the proposal. This argument also applies to Section 16.3.4.4.1 subpart #4 also. Example #6; Section 16.3.4.4.1, subpart #4, is punitive and will yield unintended results. While I appreciate the findings of the Fire Protection Research Foundation Report entitled “Carbon Monoxide Diffusion through Porous Walls: A Critical Review of Literature and incidents” dated February 2015, which discuss only gypsum board’s characteristics, the reality is that all wall assemblies are porous. We know this from research and testing which has been done for the national model energy codes (e.g. Moisture and air transport through wall assemblies, a.k.a. air barrier designs). Further, there is an enforcement issue. One interpretation of the current language would be if a building were to have a concrete masonry wall between the occupiable space and the garage there would not be a need for a CO2 detector to be installed. However, once a single layer of gypsum board is applied to that CMU wall a CO2 would be required because the subject wall was constructed with gypsum board. Therefore, this raises the question about being too literal in the assignment of material types to a national model code provision. It would be more appropriate to have all wall assembly construction types included. The proposal needs to be written in enforceable language
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In its current state the provisions appear too broad thus raising the question about consistent and predicable enforcement, and the design community’s ability to design a building with enough confidence that the construction documents will be accepted at time of permit submission. The proposal should receive another review to more effectively elaborate the prescriptive approach that is desired. There are duplicate provisions I would draw your attention to proposed Section 16.3.4.4.2. Exceptions #2 and #4 are effectively identical. Both state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with adjacent to an open parking structure. Exception #4 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference. Exception #3 and #5 suffer from the same duplication. Both exceptions state that no CO2 detectors are required when an occupiable space is communicating with an enclosed parking structure which is mechanically ventilated. Again, Exception #5 merely adds the provision concerning wall assemblies constructed with gypsum board, however that has no relevance in this exception since it makes no difference.
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Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
Additional Proposed Changes
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5000_CCN_38.pdf
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment
NOTE: This Public Comment appeared as CC Note No. 38 in the First Draft Report. The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES, DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The Correlating Committee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desired changes.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [New Section after 55.12]
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Correlating Committee Note No. 38-NFPA 5000-2016 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
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CommitteeStatement:
The Correlating Committee directs the TC on Fundamentals (FUN) and the occupancy committees (AXM, END, HEA, BCF, RES,DET, MER, IND) to review the proposed change and determine if further changes are needed in the Code. The CorrelatingCommittee will revisit the scope of the TC on Building Service and Fire Protection Equipment (BSF) after they propose any desiredchanges.
This action will be considered as a public comment.
Ballot Results
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18 Eligible Voters
2 Not Returned
15 Affirmative All
1 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Newman, Michael T.
Wooldridge, Jerry
Affirmative All
DiCristina, Salvatore
Frable, David W.
Francis, Sam W.
Hansen, Raymond N.
Harrington, John C.
Hopper, Howard
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Humble, Jonathan
Jones, Gerald H.
Leavitt, Russell B.
Quiter, James R.
Roberts, Richard Jay
Shah, Faimeen
Vinci, Leon F.
Willse, Peter J.
Affirmative with Comment
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Laramee, Scott T.
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First Revision No. 1505-NFPA 5000-2015 [ New Section after 55.12 ]
55.13 Risk Analysis for Mass Notification Systems.
55.13.1 Where Required.
Where required by another section of this Code , a risk analysis for mass notification systems shall be provided in accordance withthe requirements of NFPA 72 and the provisions of 55.13.2 through 55.13.4 .
55.13.2 Considerations.
The risk analysis required by 55.13.1 shall additionally address all of the following considerations:
(1) Fire and non-fire emergencies
(2) Specific nature and anticipated risks of each facility
(3) Characteristics of associated buildings, areas, spaces, campuses, equipment, and operations
55.13.3 Emergency Communications System.
An emergency communications system in accordance with NFPA 72 shall be provided where the need for such a system is identifiedby the risk analysis required by 55.13.1 , commensurate with the likelihood, vulnerability, magnitude, and potential consequences ofemergencies.
55.13.4 Emergency Action Plan.
The completed emergency action plan shall be used for the design guideline for the mass notification/emergency communicationssystem.
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The purpose of this revision is to provide a requirement to conduct a risk analysis and create an emergency action plan for thefacility. The need for effective emergency communications in the United States came into sharp focus in the 20th century inresponse to threats to homeland security and our educational occupancies. We have learned from the recent incidents that occurredin our college/university campuses and other buildings, and have created installation guidelines to be followed for life safety. [Aurora,CO. Theater 2012; Columbine 1999; Virginia Tech 2007; Sandy Hook 2012; Weather Tornadoes/Storms]. //
The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) School Safety, Codes and Security Workshop, was held December 3–4, 2014, inCollege Park, Maryland, and was sponsored and hosted by NFPA. This report highlights the need for real time communicationsystems in appropriate occupancies. //
NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, has a chapter dedicated to Emergency Communication Systems. This containsthe detailed information on the risk analysis and emergency action plan as required in the above proposed sections. //
This is NOT intended to require a mass notification system. There are many elements contained within a mass notification syste, theprocess of the risk analysis will outline what is needed based on risk and engineering study for the occupancy. It will be theresponsibility of the occupancy to react to the risk assessment. //
A task group has been appointed to further review the location of the material in Ch. 55. The committee requests the CorrelatingCommittee review this action in conjunction with related actions by the TC on Fundamentals and the occupancy committees toensure the provisions are appropriately coordinated. The committee also requests the CC review the scope of BLD-BSF torecommend any needed changes to accommodate the addition of the proposed language. //
The task group will also address the reference to an emergency action plan, which is not currently required by NFPA 5000.
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Public Input No. 73-NFPA 5000-2015 [New Section after 55.2]
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This item has passed ballot
28 Eligible Voters
5 Not Returned
23 Affirmative All
0 Affirmative with Comments
0 Negative with Comments
0 Abstention
Not Returned
Chen, Flora F.
Donga, Paul M.
Grill, Raymond A.
Noveh, James
Szmanda, Michael R.
Affirmative All
Bradley, Harry L.
Brock, Pat D.
Dale, Stephen E.
Hagood, Claudia
Hammerberg, Thomas P.
Hugo, Jeffrey M.
Hutton, Claude O.
Jardin, Joseph M.
Kellett, Michael
Killian, David A.
Klepitch, David L.
Larrimer, Peter A.
Lazarz, Daniel J.
Moore, Wayne D.
Nuschler, Gary L.
Panowitz, Scott E.
Reiswig, Rodger
Roberts, Richard Jay
Ruchala, Kurt A.
Shudak, Lawrence J.
Warner, Todd W.
Wren, Carl D.
Wyatt, David M.
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