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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Health Care Occupancies

NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Wednesday-Friday, June 26-28, 2013

DoubleTree Hotel San Diego Downtown 1646 Front Street

San Diego, California

1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order by Chair David Klein at 8:00 a.m. on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 at the Double Tree by Hilton Hotel, San Diego, California.

2. Self-introduction of Committee Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, see pg. 3.

3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Approve the August 15-17, 2012 meeting minutes, pg. 7.

4. The New Process. See handouts from PowerPoint presentation, pg. 11.

5. Definitions Task Group. See pg. 22.

6. Hazardous Materials Task Group. See pg. 23.

7. Home Health Care Study (and Misc. Items). The task group consisting of Ken Bush –

Chair, Tom Jaeger, Pete Larrimer, and Saundra Stevens was retained on the agenda.

8. Making Ambulatory Health Care Chapters Self-Standing. The task group consisting of Bill Koffel – Chair, Mike Crowley, Mike Gencarelli, Philip Hoge and Brian Prediger was retained on the agenda.

9. NFPA 101 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed before the meeting date.

10. NFPA 5000 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be

distributed before the meeting date.

11. Other Business.

12. Adjournment.

Enclosures

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Address List No PhoneHealth Care Occupancies SAF-HEA

Safety to Life

Ron Coté03/29/2013

SAF-HEA

David P. Klein

ChairUS Department of Veterans Affairs810 Vermont Avenue, NW, Suite 800Mail Code: (10NA8)Washington, DC 20420Alternate: Peter A. Larrimer

U 11/2/2006SAF-HEA

Ron Coté

Secretary (Staff-Nonvoting)National Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

1/1/1991

SAF-HEA

Kenneth E. Bush

PrincipalMaryland State Fire Marshals Office301 Bay Street, Lower LevelEaston, MD 21601International Fire Marshals AssociationAlternate: Charles J. Giblin III

E 1/1/1978SAF-HEA

Wayne G. Carson

PrincipalCarson Associates, Inc.35 Horner Street, Suite 120Warrenton, VA 20186-3415Alternate: William E. Koffel

SE 1/1/1988

SAF-HEA

Michael A. Crowley

PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.8827 West Sam Houston Parkway NorthSuite 150Houston, TX 77040Alternate: William M. Dorfler

SE 1/1/1985SAF-HEA

Samuel S. Dannaway

PrincipalS. S. Dannaway Associates, Inc.720 Iwilei Road, Suite 412Honolulu, HI 96817-5316American Society of Safety EngineersAlternate: Joshua W. Elvove

SE 1/16/2003

SAF-HEA

Buddy Dewar

PrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.200 West College AvenueTallahassee, FL 32301Alternate: Robert G. Kleinheinz

M 10/23/2003SAF-HEA

Alice L. Epstein

PrincipalCNA InsuranceTen Town Plaza, Suite 208Durango, CO 81301

I 8/5/2009

SAF-HEA

Douglas S. Erickson

PrincipalNorthstar Management Company10280 Sunset Office Drive, Suite 200St. Louis, MO 63127American Society for Healthcare EngineeringAlternate: Chad E. Beebe

U 1/1/1982SAF-HEA

Martin J. Farraher

PrincipalSiemens Industry, Inc.5075 Houston RoadRockford, IL 61109Alternate: Peter W. Tately

M 08/09/2012

SAF-HEA

John E. Fishbeck

PrincipalThe Joint CommissionOne Renaissance BoulevardOakbrook Terrace, IL 60181

E 4/1/1996SAF-HEA

Gary Furdell

PrincipalState of FloridaAgency for Healthcare Administration4347 South Canal CircleNorth Fort Myers, FL 33903Alternate: James R. Stuckey

E 8/5/2009

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Safety to Life

Ron Coté03/29/2013

SAF-HEA

Michael O. Gencarelli

PrincipalUS Department of the NavyNAVFAC HQ: Medical Facilities Design Office (MDFO)1322 Patterson Avenue, Suite 1000Washington, DC 20374

E 8/9/2011SAF-HEA

Robert J. Harmeyer

PrincipalMSKTD & Associates930 North Meridian StreetIndianapolis, IN 46204American Institute of Architects

SE 10/20/2010

SAF-HEA

Donald W. Harris

PrincipalCalifornia Office of Health Planning & DevelopmentFacilities Development Division1600 9th Street, Room 420Sacramento, CA 95814

E 7/12/2001SAF-HEA

David R. Hood

PrincipalRussell Phillips & Associates, LLC500 Cross Keys Office ParkFairport, NY 14550-3507NFPA Health Care SectionAlternate: A. Richard Fasano

U 4/14/2005

SAF-HEA

Richard M. Horeis

PrincipalHDR Architecture, Inc.8404 Indian Hills DriveOmaha, NE 68114

SE 10/20/2010SAF-HEA

Henry Kowalenko

PrincipalIllinois Department of Public HealthOffice of Health Care Regulation525 West Jefferson Street, 4th FloorSpringfield, IL 62761

E 3/4/2009

SAF-HEA

James Merrill II

PrincipalUS Department of Health & Human ServicesCenters for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)7500 Security Boulevard, M/S S2-12-25Balitmore, MD 21133US Dept. of Health & Human Services/CMSCMSAlternate: Kenneth Sun

E 3/2/2010SAF-HEA

Daniel J. O'Connor

PrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering1000 Milwaukee Avenue, 5th FloorGlenview, IL 60025-2423Alternate: Dale D. Wilson

I 1/1/1991

SAF-HEA

Ben Pethe

PrincipalHealth Care Consultant3224 Fountain BoulevardTampa, FL 33609


G. Brian Prediger

PrincipalU.S. Army Medical Command HeadquartersDirector, Facilities Engineering Division2748 Worth Road, Suite 22Fort Sam Houston, TX 78234Alternate: Philip J. Hoge

U 7/24/1997

SAF-HEA

John A. Rickard

PrincipalKatus, LLC5838 Balcones Drive, Suite BAustin, TX 78731-4206

SE 8/2/2010SAF-HEA

Richard Jay Roberts

PrincipalHoneywell Life Safety3825 Ohio AvenueSt. Charles, IL 60174Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc.

M 10/20/2010

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Safety to Life

Ron Coté03/29/2013

SAF-HEA

Eric R. Rosenbaum

PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652American Health Care AssociationAlternate: Doug Beardsley

U 03/07/2013SAF-HEA

Terry Schultz

PrincipalCode Consultants, Inc.2043 Woodland Parkway, Suite 300St. Louis, MO 63146-4235

SE 7/23/2008

SAF-HEA

Saundra J. Stevens

PrincipalAdams County Regional Medical Center230 Medical Center DriveSeaman, OH 45679

U 10/27/2009SAF-HEA

Geza Szakats

PrincipalArup North America Ltd.560 Mission Street, 7th FloorSan Francisco, CA 94105Alternate: John E. Mahoney

SE 8/2/2010

SAF-HEA

Michael D. Widdekind

PrincipalZurich Services CorporationRisk Engineering112 Andrew CourtCentreville, MD 21617

I 1/14/2005SAF-HEA

Fred Worley

PrincipalTexas Department of Aging & Disability ServicesLong Term Care Regulatory DivisionPO Box 149030, Mail Code E-250Austin, TX 78714

E 03/05/2012

SAF-HEA

Doug Beardsley

AlternateCare Providers of Minnesota7851 Metro Parkway, Suite 200Bloomington, MN 55425American Health Care AssociationPrincipal: Eric R. Rosenbaum

U 7/23/2008SAF-HEA

Chad E. Beebe

AlternateASHE - AHAPO Box 5756Lacey, WA 98509-5756American Society for Healthcare EngineeringPrincipal: Douglas S. Erickson

U 03/05/2012

SAF-HEA

William M. Dorfler

AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.600 West Fulton Street, Suite 500Chicago, IL 60661-1241Principal: Michael A. Crowley

SE 3/15/2007SAF-HEA

Joshua W. Elvove

Alternate3478 South Cimarron WayAurora, CO 80014-3912American Society of Safety EngineersPrincipal: Samuel S. Dannaway

SE 7/14/2004

SAF-HEA

A. Richard Fasano

AlternateRussell Phillips & Associates Inc.8788 Elk Grove BoulevardBldg. 3, Suite 12-HElk Grove, CA 95624NFPA Health Care SectionPrincipal: David R. Hood

U 8/5/2009SAF-HEA

Charles J. Giblin III

AlternateMaryland State Fire Marshal’s Office1201 Reisterstown RoadPikesville, MD 21208International Fire Marshals AssociationPrincipal: Kenneth E. Bush

E 03/07/2013

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Safety to Life

Ron Coté03/29/2013

SAF-HEA

Philip J. Hoge

AlternateUS Army Corps of EngineersHumphreys Engineer CenterKingman Building, Suite 3MX7701 Telegraph RoadAlexandria, VA 22315-3813Principal: G. Brian Prediger

U 10/20/2010SAF-HEA

Robert G. Kleinheinz

AlternateNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.509 Dawes StreetLibertyville, IL 60048Principal: Buddy Dewar

M 08/09/2012

SAF-HEA

William E. Koffel

AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Principal: Wayne G. Carson

SE 1/1/1991SAF-HEA

Peter A. Larrimer

AlternateUS Department of Veterans Affairs323 North Shore Drive, Suite 400Pittsburgh, PA 15212Principal: David P. Klein

U 11/2/2006

SAF-HEA

John E. Mahoney

AlternateArup1120 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20036Principal: Geza Szakats


James R. Stuckey

AlternateState of FloridaAgency for Healthcare Administration114 Tropicana DrivePunta Gorda, FL 33950-5020Principal: Gary Furdell

E 03/05/2012

SAF-HEA

Kenneth Sun

AlternateUS Public Health ServiceCenters for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)1600 Broadway, Suite 700Denver, CO 80202US Dept. of Health & Human Services/CMSCMSPrincipal: James Merrill II

E 3/2/2010SAF-HEA

Peter W. Tately

AlternateSiemens Building Technologies927 Nottingham RoadPottstown, PA 19465Principal: Martin J. Farraher

M 10/27/2009

SAF-HEA

Dale D. Wilson

AlternateAon Fire Protection Engineering1000 Milwaukee Avenue, 5th FloorGlenview, IL 60025-2423Principal: Daniel J. O'Connor

I 08/09/2012SAF-HEA

Pichaya Chantranuwat

Nonvoting MemberFusion Consultants Co. Ltd/Thailand81/55 Soi Phumijit, Rama 4 RoadPrakanong, KlontoeyBangkok, 10110 Thailand

SE 1/18/2001

SAF-HEA

David M. Sine

Nonvoting MemberNational Center for Patient Safety209 West SummitAnn Arbor, MI 48103National Association of Psychiatric Health Systems

U 1/1/1989SAF-HEA

Ron Coté

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

1/1/1991

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BLD/SAF-HEA 8-2012 FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 1

NFPA Technical Committee on Health Care Occupancies NFPA 101 and NFPA 5000 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES

Wednesday-Friday August 15-17, 2012 St. Louis Union Station Marriott

St. Louis, Missouri

1. Call to Order. The meeting was called to order by Chair David Klein at 8:00 a.m. on August 15, 2012 at the St. Louis Union Station Marriot, St. Louis, Missouri.

2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT

NAME COMPANY David P. Klein, Chair US Department of Veterans Affairs Ron Cote, Nonvoting Secretary National Fire Protection Association James R. Ambrose Alt. to Terry Schultz

Code Consultants, Inc.

Kenneth E. Bush, Principal Maryland State Fire Marshal’s Office Michael A. Crowley, Principal The RJA Group, Inc. Samuel S. Dannaway, Principal S.S. Dannaway Associates, Inc.

Rep: American Society of Safety Engineers Buddy Dewar, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association Inc. Alice L. Epstein, Principal CNA Insurance Douglas S. Erickson, Principal Northstar Management Company

Rep: American Society for Healthcare Engineering

Martin J. Farraher, Principal Siemens Industry A. Richard Fasano Alt. to David R. Hood

Russell Phillips & Associates Inc.

John E. Fishbeck, Principal The Joint Commission Gary Furdell, Principal State of Florida Agency for Healthcare Admin. Michael O. Gencarelli, Principal US Department of the Navy Robert J. Harmeyer, Principal MSKTD & Associates Philip J. Hoge Alt. to G. Brian Prediger

US Army Corps of Engineers

David R. Hood, Principal Russell Philips & Associates, LLC NFPA Health Care Section

Richard M. Horeis, Principal HDR Architecture, Inc. Thomas W. Jaeger, Principal Jaeger and Associates, LLC

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Rep: American Health Care Association William Koffel Alt. to Wayne G. Carson

Koffel Associates, Inc.

Henry Kowalenko, Principal Illinois Department of Public Health Peter A. Larrimer Alt. to David P. Klein

US Dept. of Veterans Affairs

Daniel J. O’Connor, Principal Aon Fire Protection Engineering G. Brian Prediger, Principal US Army Medical Command Headquarters John A. Rickard, Principal Katus, LLC Richard Jay Roberts, Principal Honeywell Life Safety

Rep: Automatic Fire Alarm Association, Inc. Terry Schultz, Principal Code Consultants, Inc. Saundra J. Stevens, Principal Adams County Regional Medical Center James R. Stuckey Alt. to Gary Furdell

State of Florida Agency for Healthcare Administration

Geza Szakats, Principal Arup North America Ltd. Michael D. Widdekind, Principal Zurich Services Coporation Fred Worley, Principal Texas Dept. of Aging & Disability Services

GUESTS

NAME COMPANY Amy Carpenter Lethardt Rodgers/Pioneer Network Josh Elvove GSA Dan Finnegan Siemens Tracy Golinveaux National Fire Protection Association Gregory Harrington National Fire Protection Association Sarah Rice The Preview Group Masoud Sabounchi Advanced Consulting Engs. Burt Singleton Advanced Consulting Engs.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT

NAME COMPANY Donald W. Harris, Principal California Office of Health Planning & Dev. James Merrill II, Principal US Dept. Of Health & Human Services

Rep: US Dept. of Health & Human Services/CMS

Ben Pethe, Principal Health Care Consultant

3. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes. The October 19-20, 2010 meeting minutes were

approved as written and distributed. The July 26, 2012 meeting minutes were approved as written and distributed.

4. The New Process Review. Staff liaison Ron Coté used the PowerPoint presentation,

included in the agenda, to detail the new revision process.

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5. TIA on Smoke Alarms for Spaces Open to Kitchen. Draft language assigned to task group for overnight work: Tom Jaeger – Chair, Ken Bush, Sam Dannaway, Pete Larrimer, Dan O’Connor, and Richard Roberts. Task group reports received later in meeting. Motion carried by unanimous vote to send TIA to an expedited ballot using the dual-column format with Chapters 18 and 19 appearing side-by-side. Similar First Revisions drafted for NFPA 101-2015 and NFPA 5000-2015. Task group discharged.

6. Risk-Based Occupancy Task Group. The task group consisting of John Rickard –

Chair, Ken Bush, Mike Crowley, Buddy Dewar, David Hood, Tom Jaeger, Bill Koffel, Ben Pethe, and Saundra Stevens reported. The subject relates more to board and care occupancies than health care occupancies. It needs to be addressed more based on the procedure performed, and not an occupancy name. The task group provided no recommendations for future work. Task group discharged.

7. Person-Directed / Person-Centered Care. John Rickard reported. Related subjects, like

exercise room in physical therapy and disguising of doors, addressed via First Revisions. Task group discharged.

8. Home Health Care Study (and Misc. Items). Task group consisting of Ken Bush –

Chair, Tom Jaeger, Pete Larrimer, and Saundra Stevens reported. There are plenty of fire statistics for residential occupancy cooking fires, but little for health care occupancies. UL 300A is not yet a full UL standard. The task group will continue to monitor the subjects. Retain task group on agenda.

9. Antifreeze Sprinkler Systems. Buddy Dewar reported. NFPA Standards Council acted

on nine related TIAs at its August meeting. Results yet to be announced. Drop subject from agenda.

10. Maximum Permitted Suite Size. Mike Crowley reported. The subject had been

mislabeled and deals with smoke compartment size, not suite size. Public Input on the subject was to be addressed later in the meeting. Drop subject from agenda.

11. Correlation between NFPA 101 Chapters 18-21 and NFPA 5000 Chapters 19-20.

The task group consisting of Mike Crowley – Chair, Chad Beebe, Tom Jaeger, Henry Kowalenko, Jim Lathrop and Dan O’Connor submitted its report in the form of many Public Inputs (PI). The PI were addressed during the meeting and First Revisions drafted. Task group discharged.

12. Revision of Suite Requirements. Based on the need to address the suite PIs submitted by Pete Larrimer, a task group was formed, to work overnight, consisting of Pete Larrimer – Chair, Sam Dannaway, Philip Hoge and Saundra Stevens. The task group reported later in the meeting. Issues resolved and First Revisions drafted. Task group discharged.

13. Correlating Committees’ Directives. Mike Crowley agreed to study overnight if there are requirements in definitions that need addressing. Brian Prediger and Mike Gencarelli agreed to study overnight if annex material needs updating or deletion. Later in the meeting, the groups reported and First Revisions were drafted to address the issues. Relative to the Correlating Committees’ requests to make the AHC provisions self-standing, see item 14 below. Drop subject from agenda.

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14. Making Ambulatory Health Care Chapters Self-Standing. The Correlating Committees requested that the ambulatory health care chapters be made self-standing without need to reference the business occupancy chapters. Working from staff-generated drafts, First Revisions were prepared. Task Group formed to study the changes in advance of the Second Draft preparation meeting, and to submit Public Comments: Bill Koffel – Chair, Mike Crowley, Mike Gencarelli, Philip Hoge and Brian Prediger. Retain task group on agenda.

15. NFPA 101 First Draft Preparation. Public Input answered and First Revisions drafted.

16. NFPA 5000 First Draft Preparation. Public Input answered and First Revisions drafted.

17. Other Business. Various issues were raised and discussed; First Revisions or Committee Input drafted for some of the following: • Projections in existing 4-ft wide corridors • Smoke compartment size • Ambulatory health care occupant load factor • Ambulatory health care decorations • Protecting ambulatory health care hazardous areas • Moving ABHR dispenser provisions out of hazardous area requirements • Exempting mixed occupancies from separation from other occupancies • FM 6921 containers for trash • Expanded annex on suite supervision methods • Hyperbaric facility referenced standard • Transfer grille prohibition in corridor walls • Flush bolts for inactive corridor door leaf • Consistency in vision panel provisions for doors and walls

18. Future Meeting. The committee agreed to meet for two-full days for Second Draft

preparation. The meeting is tentatively scheduled for June 26-27, 2013.

19. Adjournment. On Wednesday August 15, the meeting was recessed at 5:00 p.m. The meeting was reconvened on Thursday, August 16 at 7:30 a.m. and recessed at 5:05 p.m. The meeting was reconvened on Friday, August 17 at 7:30 a.m. and adjourned at 12:55 p.m.

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NFPA Second Draft MeetingNFPA Second Draft Meeting

NFPA 101/5000HEALTH CAREOCCUPANCIES

COMMITTEE

June 26-28, 2013

San Diego, CA

COMMITTEE

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At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with your safety

If the fire alarm sounds, pleaseIf the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit

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Members, please verify/update your contact information

Use of tape recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatimcapable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this meeting is not permitted

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GuestsAll guests are asked to sign in and

identify their affiliations

Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee

Other participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair

Guest seating is located around the room

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Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category must declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting, both in the meeting and on the ballot item

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General ProceduresFollow Robert’s Rules of Order

Di i i tiDiscussion requires a motion

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Motions for Ending Debate - Move Previous Question or “Call the Question”Not in order when another has the floor

Requires a second

This motion is not debatable and does not automatically stop debate

A 2/3 affirmative vote immediately closes debate and returns to the original motion on the floor

Less then 2/3 allows debate to continue

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Committee member actions:

Member addresses the chair Receives recognition from the chair I t d th ti Introduces the motion Another member seconds the

motion

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Committee chair actions:

States the motionCalls for discussionEnsures all issues have been heardTakes the voteAnnounces the result of the vote

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Technical Committee on Health Care OccupanciesEnforcer, 8 Members: 28%Insurance, 3 Members: 10%Manufacturer 3 Members: 10%Manufacturer, 3 Members: 10%Special Expert, 9 Members: 31%User, 6 Members: 21%Consumer, 0 Members: 0%Installer/Maintainer, 0 Members: 0%Labor, 0 Members: 0%

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Timeline

Comment Stage (Second Draft):Public Comment Closing Date: 05/03/2013Second Draft Meeting: TodayPosting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 01/03/2014

Tech Session Preparation:NITMAM Closing Date: 02/07/2014NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: 04/04/2014NFPA Annual Meeting: 06/09-12/2014 (Las Vegas)

Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Documents with CAM: 08/14/2014 edition date

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NFPA Second Draft MeetingNFPA Second Draft MeetingNew Process New Process –– What’s New?What’s New?

Changes in Terms:New Term Old Term

Comment Stage ROC Stage

Public Comment Public Comment

Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting

Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted

Public Comment

Committee Comment(a Second Revision that failed

ballot)

(a Comment reported as Rejected due to failed ballot)

Second Draft Report ROC

Second Draft ROC Draft

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• Technical Committee Actions:

Resolving Public CommentsResolving Public Comments Committee Action and Committee Statement

Creating Second Revisions

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• Resolving Public Comments (See Regs §4.4.8.1)Committee develops a Committee Action Accept

Reject but see…

Reject

Reject but Hold

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• Committee StatementsCommittee must clearly indicate reasons for not

accepting the recommendation and/or point to a relevant Second RevisionAll Public Comments Actions must have a

Committee StatementCommittee StatementMust include a valid technical reasonNo vague references to “intent”Explain how the submitter’s substantiation is

inadequateNeither Public Comment Actions nor Committee

Statements get balloted

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• Create a Second Revision (SR)Committee wants to make a change (to

add, delete or modify) the First Draft

Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change

Each SR gets balloted

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No “new material” after the Public Input Stage since it hasn’t had the benefit of public review

What constitutes new material is decided by th T h i l C itt C l tithe Technical Committee or Correlating Committee

Adding “new material” at the Comment Stage could successfully be challenged through appeal to the Standards Council

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Formal voting Voting during meeting is used to

establish a sense of agreement (simple majority)(simple majority)

Secured by letter ballot (2/3 agreement)Only the results of the formal ballot

determine the official position of the committee on the Second Draft

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Ballots are on the Second Revisions (SR) ONLYPublic Comment Actions and Committee

Statements not ballotedReference materials are available - Second Draft, Public Comments, First Draft Report

Ballot form allows you to vote: Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all SRAffirmative on all SR with exceptions specifically

noted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative

with commentNote: This box needs to be checked only if there

is an accompanying comment Reject or abstain requires a reason 20


Initial ballot

Circulation of negatives and comments

Members may change votes during circulationcirculation

Second Revision that fails letter ballot is designated as a Committee Comment (in the 2nd Draft Report), marked as “Reject” and deleted from the Second Draft.

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If a Second Revision fails ballot and the subject text was a result of a First Draft change, a Supplementary Ballot is conducted

Ballot asks TC if it still favors the First Revision change reported in the First DraftIf Y h S d If Yes, same change appears as Second Revision and is shown in the Second Draft

If No, the change appears as a Committee Comment (rejected) and the Second Draft text reverts to previous edition

See Regs §4.4.10.2.1

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Electronic Balloting Electronic Balloting • Ballots will be an online format• Alternates are strongly encouraged

to return ballots

• Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes

• Use “submit” to save your work

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Electronic Balloting Electronic Balloting

Click link on the ballot email received

Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password

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Select either Affirmative on All or Affirmative with Exception(s)

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Use “See FR/SR - #” link to review all First/Second Revisions

Use “Edit election” to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot

Choosing AFFIRMATIVE ON ALL

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Make selection: Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain

No selection made - defaults to affirmative Must include comment on each vote

Choosing AFFIRMATIVE WITH EXCEPTION(S)

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To complete ballot click Participant Consent and Submit

Return to ballot site to edit any votes before ballot due date

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TC Struggles with an Issue

• TC needs data on a new technology or

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Code Fund Lends a Hand

• TC rep and/or staff liaison submits a C d F d

Research Project Carried Out

• Funding for project is provided by th C d F demerging

issue• Two opposing

views on an issue with no real data

• Data presented is not trusted by committee

Code Fund Request

• Requests are reviewed by a Panel and chosen based on need / feasibility

the Code Fund and/or industry sponsors

• Project is completed and data is available to TC

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Antitrust: the single most important provision- Federal law prohibits contracts, combinations, or conspiracies which unreasonably restrain trade or commerce Section 1 of the Sherman Act

Patent: Disclosures of essential patent claims should be made by the patent holder, but others may also notify NFPA if they believe that a proposed or existing NFPA standard includes an essential patent claim

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Activities Disapproved by the CourtsPacking meetings

Hiding commercial interest throwing the committees out of balance

No final decision-making authority to unbalanced Task Groups; include all interested parties

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Document Information

• Document scope• Current/Previous

Edition information• Issued TIAs, FIs and

Errata

Next Edition

• Submit Public Input/Comments via Electronic Submission System.

• Meetings and Ballots

Technical Committee

• Committee name, responsibility and scope

• Staff liaison• Committee list

• Archived revision information

• Standard Council Decisions

• Articles and Reports• Read only document

• ROP/ROC or First Draft Report and Second Draft Report

• NITMAM and Standard Council Decisions

• Private TC info• Ballot circulations,

informational ballots and other committee info

• Private committee contact information

• Current committee documents in PDF format

• Committees seeking members and committee online application

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Cote, Ron

From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:33 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: SAF Agenda Item for Second Draft Meetings

Please add the subject of Definitions to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the definitions task group. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:

Definitions. The committee agreed to have each defined term assigned to a specific technical committee so that committee would have responsibility for the maintenance and revision of such term. A task group is to be formed after the Second Draft meetings of the current revision cycle. The task group will report to the Correlating Committee (CC) its recommendations for the definitions assignments in time for the CC to review the recommendations at its first meeting of the 2018 revision cycle. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the task group.

Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA

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Cote, Ron

From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:43 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: Hazardous Materials - Agenda Item

Please add the subject of Hazardous Areas to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee is asked to decide whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:

Hazardous Materials. Jeff Tubbs raised the issue of whether NFPA 101 should address hazardous materials (as done in NFPA 5000 Chapter 34). The committee noted that health hazards are not within the scope of NFPA 101. Conflicts exist among the NFPA codes. It was agreed to:

o Add the subject of hazardous materials to the agenda for all NFPA 101 technical committee Second Draft meetings

o Gather comments from each technical committee including whether it wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials

o Report results to the Correlating Committee at its Second Draft review meeting o Ask the Standards Council, after the Correlating Committee’s Second Draft meeting, to

establish a task group from the membership of the NFPA 1, 30, 101, 400 and 5000 committees to address conflicts and overlapping requirements related to hazardous materials

Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA

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