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Zero Limits Retreat: Audio 1
Jan. 19 – 21, 2007
Hosted by Dr. Joe Vitale & Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len
Joe: Good morning!
All: Good morning!
Joe: Welcome to the world’s first Zero Limits Seminar! This is NOT Beyond
Manifestation. This is not The Manifestation Weekend. This is not a
Ho’oponopono workshop. This is Zero Limits. It’s NEVER been done before.
I have never co-led this with Dr. Hew Len before, so this is ALL NEW. I’ve
got no notes. I’ve got no agenda, no handouts. I had talked to Dr. Hew Len
yesterday saying, “What are we going to do this weekend?”
He said, “We’ll show up.”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: I said, “Well, what are YOU going to do?”
He said that, “I promise you that I will be there and keep cleaning.”
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I said, “But, are you going to TALK?”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: He started laughing and he said, “I will just clean. I will just clean.”
So, I don’t know if I am going to be speaking all weekend [chuckling] or if
HE is going to be speaking. We also have a SURPRISE speaker, who I have
not heard before, who has written a book that I absolutely love, which is
ABOUT Ho’oponopono and growing from the inside out. Most of you already
know the story, but for those who don’t, I need to quickly tell you about it.
Before we go there...we found this in the breakfast room. Does anybody
recognize this? Joyce. Alright, it’s either yours or you WANT it!
Audience: [Chuckling]
Female: Trust me, she ALMOST didn’t get it!
Joe: OH! [Laughing] She almost didn’t get it.
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How many of you were in The Beyond Manifestation Weekend, the last one?
How many were in the one before THAT? Yeah!! MOST of the people here
were IN one of those weekends. I NEVER announced this particular
workshop. I never PROMOTED this workshop. Had I promoted Zero Limits
to my major list, we would have needed to find a stadium! So many people
WANT TO KNOW what THE SECRET IS BEHIND The Secret. So many
people want to know about Zero Limits. So many want to know about my
forth coming book CALLED Zero Limits. So many people want to know
about the world’s most unusual therapist who is here today and this weekend.
So, first of all, the quick story is three years ago, Mark Ryan who is in the
room some place, he is over there, “Hello, Mark, good morning.” ...told me
about a therapist who healed an entire ward of mentally ill criminals without
seeing any of them! Now, I think I am a pretty open minded guy, but when I
heard that story I thought, “I LIKE you, Mark, but I think you swallowed a big
one here. I think this is an urban legend! This doesn’t sound like the truth at
all!” So, I didn’t talk about it. I didn’t investigate it. I let it go! I heard it
AGAIN from Mark a year later.
He said, “Did you investigate that therapist who healed an entire ward of
mentally ill criminals?”
I said, “No, but what do you know about it?”
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He said, “Well, he used something called Ho’oponopono and supposedly he
worked at this hospital in Hawaii for the criminally insane and he NEVER
saw clients, but he did something within himself that CHANGED those
people as he was working on HIMSELF!”
Well, I was CURIOUS at this point. I started looking for that therapist. I
couldn’t easily FIND him! I KNOW how to do research online. I know how to
Google and I know all of those secret back doors to find information, but I
couldn’t find this therapist! So, I found that a little curious and a little
frustrating, but I also was very persistent. Finally, I found HIM LISTED on an
unusual website called www.BusinessByYou.com. I think that’s the website,
www.BusinessByYou.com. There his face was! There was some information
about him and it said that you can hire him by email for consultations. I
thought, now, that’s a little weird ‘by email’ but I am going to hire him,
because I want to find out what the story is!
There began my adventure! I DID do a session with him by email, which I
virtually got NOTHING out of...
Audience: [Laughing]
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Joe: ...which made me even more curious. Its like, “Is this how he dealt with the
mentally ill people? I mean, this didn’t help me.”
So, I said, “Can I talk to you on the phone?”
I got him on the phone and he spent an HOUR talking to me. Now, keep in
mind, he didn’t know who I was at ALL and for him to give that hour was
VERY GENEROUS. He didn’t charge me for it. He didn’t question me about
it. He just answered all of my questions.
I wanted to know, “What’s the story about the mental hospital?”
He said, “Yes, he had worked there.”
I said, “You never saw patients?”
He said, “Well, I saw them in passing, but I never saw them professionally,
not therapeutically.”
I said, “Well, what were you DOING that somehow caused them to
CHANGE?”
He said, “I just kept cleaning.”
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“Were you using Ivory soap? What were you doing?”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: “What do you mean you just kept cleaning? Are you cleaning the bathrooms,
the walls, what did you mean?”
He said, “I just kept cleaning myself.”
“Well, what does THAT mean?”
He said, “I just kept working on ME. I just kept saying, ‘I love you. I am
sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.’”
I thought, “How did THAT do anything?” I was just INCREDIBLY
CONFUSED and INCREDIBLY FASCINATED by this and I wanted to
know MORE. He answered all of his questions and it just left me in a state of
confusion, but SOMETHING was AWAKENING IN ME that was knocking
at my inner door that said, “Go learn more!”
He had a workshop coming up. It was only a few weeks away and I asked him
about it. I said, “Should I attend it?”
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He said, “I don’t know.”
I said, “How many people are going to come?”
He says, “I hope not too many.” He says, “I keep cleaning so only the right
people come at the right time.”
Well, I found this MYSTICAL FELLOW rather INTERESTING [chuckling]
and I notified Mark.
I said, “Mark, would you like to go to this workshop with me?” I said, “Since
you were the guy who TOLD me about this fellow, I will PAY for you to
attend it!”
Well, he EAGERLY agreed. He was JUST as curious about this man as I was.
The man told me his name was Ihaleakala Hew Len.
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: So, I still can’t say it!
He said, “You can call me ‘E’ for short.”
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“The letter ‘E’?”
He said, “Yes, ‘E’ for short.”
So, I called him that for awhile until I started calling him “Dr. Len.”
Everybody here probably refers to him as “Dr. Len.” His real NAME is Dr.
Hew Len. So, if we want to do it right, we should be saying Dr. Hew Len or
Dr. E, but I think he’ll answer to anything. [Chuckling]
Anyway, Mark and I did the workshop. We found it pretty fascinating. I did a
series of workshops on Ho’oponopono. I also talked to Dr. Hew Len about me
writing a book.
He said, “I’ll CLEAN on it.”
I thought, “Is that like the Japanese, when you ask them, ‘Do you want to do
something together in business?’ They will say, ‘We’ll see,’ which means,
‘No!’” “We’ll see,” means, “No,” in the Japanese language.
So, he said, “I’ll clean on it.”
I thought, “Well, he’s just telling me, ‘No.’” I kept checking in.
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He kept saying, “I’ll clean on it. I’ll clean on it.” He KEPT CLEANING on it
APPARENTLY, because at ONE point he said, “I want to write this book
with you.” Well, more importantly, he wanted ME to write the book and that
he would just REVIEW IT!
So, I brought him to Austin. Suzanne and I set up a dinner in February of a
year ago. I thought five people might go to that dinner and learn about Dr.
Hew Len and about Ho’oponopono and this process he uses to heal the
criminally insane and to help everybody else by working on HIMSELF. We
had ALMOST A HUNDRED people! We had to get a HOTEL ROOM! This
was by word of mouth, much like the effect that’s going on HERE! I never
promoted this, but look at all the people! There are more people that want to
come and I couldn’t let them in the door! We’ve got standing room only.
We’ve got fire codes to deal with at this point.
So, I started to have more adventures with Dr. Hew Len. I brought him to
Wimberley where we spent some time, one-on-one, together just talking! I
really felt like I was Grasshopper with the Satori Master as I walked up and
down the streets of Wimberley. I would have these Satori experiences,
because he is just being HIMSELF, but out of being himself I would go,
“OH!!” I would have whacks across the head that would just WAKE ME UP!
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I got more and more excited. I started working on the book Zero Limits. I
spent night and DAY on this book. I wanted this book to be earth shaking! I
wanted this book to be the BEST thing that I have ever written. Cindy
Cashman has already TOLD me, she’s read ALL of my stuff, “This IS THE
BEST thing that you’ve ever written by far,” she says right here, EVER!
There are a handful of people who have read it. Dr. Mark Gitterle, who was
also at that dinner in February, read the book and he said that, “This book is
going to change an entire generation.”
Audience: Wow!
Joe: He said, “Historian’s will LOOK BACK at this book as a Watershed Moment
in History.”
I’ve got...I am getting electrocuted here just standing here telling you what he
said about my book!
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: I tell Dr. Hew Len all of this and he says, “Oh, just keep cleaning.”
Audience: [Laughing]
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Joe: Yesterday, I am in his room and we are talking for a little bit and he says,
“You know, Joe, when your book comes out [now it’s my book…it’s not our
book] when YOUR book comes out...the SHIT is going to HIT the FAN!”
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: God, what a cheery guy! I mean....
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: ...because I am already PLANNING to SHAKE THE EARTH with the book
PROMOTION wise! I am a marketing guy! I am an entrepreneur!! I am
already lining up my FORCES, my artillery, my allies. I want the WORLD to
know about this book, which is so incredibly ironic because the only person
who really NEEDS to know about this book is ME!! As you’ll find out, if you
don’t already know!
But, here I am…. wanting to shake the world with this entire book and I am
getting promotional people lined up and marketing people lined up and I am
not going to do it just by myself. I could make the book an Amazon Best
Seller, but I WANT this to be a New York Times Best Seller.
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I have already been in contact with Oprah. I was supposed to be on The Oprah
[Winfrey] Show YESTERDAY and it looks like I am not going AT ALL on
that show about the movie The Secret, which most of you know I am in, but it
will probably be because of Dr. Hew Len and Zero Limits. So, this book IS
going to go out there in a big way and he says, “The shit’s going to hit the fan
when it comes out.”
So, I am just sitting in his room and I am just thinking, “So what? I am
READY for THIS!” I go back to my room and I get an email from one of my
early readers of the book, who experienced some shit hitting the fan and took
it out on ME!! I got ONE email. ONE email and I was DEVASTATED for the
next HOUR!! I had to go lay down and go, “I love you. I am sorry. Please
forgive me and thank you...”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: ...OVER AND OVER and over again!!! This is kind of a HINT at how this
new method works. Because, where I WANT TO GO or I think where we
ALL want to go is at this place called Zero Limits, which the code word might
be “White Board,” because it’s the white board before we write anything on it.
As soon as you asked the question or I asked the question, “what IS Zero
Limits?” we’ve written something on the white board. As soon as we ask
something like, “How do we get to Zero Limits?” we just wrote something on
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the white board and that’s NOT Zero Limits!!! That’s something ON TOP of
Zero Limits. So, in the past, I might have taken that email that came to me,
which was like a BOMBSHELL to me at that time and I am thinking, “Oh, I
have to go be SOCIAL in a little bit. I am going to a DINNER. I have to
SMILE and I just got a HAND GRANADE thrown to me!” I see HIM right
after it.
He says, “That was Level One, Joe. They’ll still go to Level Six.”
I’m like, “I’m not going to hang around this man any more! He doesn’t have
any GOOD news!”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: Again, I am saying it jokingly, because ALL OF THIS that comes up is for us
to cleanse!!
In the past when I got an email like that, what I WOULD have done is written
back to the person and trying to have logically explained things or I might
have gone to therapy and had all of this stuff worked out within myself so I
am diffusing buttons, BUT INSTEAD what I am LOOKING AT is, ‘I am
100% responsible for everything that is in my life! That person/that email is in
my life! I have to be 100% responsible for THAT...not just the experience of
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what was going on inside of ME, but that person or what I perceive their
experience as going on inside of them is a SHARED MEMORY. For me to
get back to the white board, to get back to Zero State, I have to CLEAN
THAT and as I clean that, I not only clean it in ME, I clean it in THAT person
and I clean it in the people that it’s SHARED WITH! This is the NEW
DIRECTION that we are going with, with Zero Limits.
So, by my spending that hour laying on the bed saying, “I love you. I am
sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” I got up feeling MUCH better. I was
much more relieved. I was still shaken, obviously, openly I was, admittedly,
but I felt LOTS BETTER and I had another email come from that same person
much more relaxed, much more loving and open. So, there were some things
happening. There was a ripple effect taking place.
So, what’s happening this weekend is [chuckling] I don’t really know.
[Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: Okay, the email last night, that’s all part of this weekend! You know, but I
didn’t set that up, not consciously anyway, maybe in some unconscious way,
some Divinely planned way it’s been set up. I am here for the ride! I am here
for the ride.
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So, anyway, I have FOUND that therapist. I have worked with that therapist. I
have authored a book with that therapist. We are now...we have people talking
about turning that book into a MOVIE, which excited me. I did a radio show
called Spiritual Hollywood. They listened. They heard the story about the
unusual therapist and they said, “That should be a movie!”
“Oh, wow, why didn’t I think of that?” That’s RIGHT!!
This is like, One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest, but a happier ending, you
know...
Audience: [Loud Laughing]
Joe: ...and a MUCH different way of doing THERAPY!! So, I am thinking,
“Wow! This IS going to be BIG! This IS going to be huge! This is going to be
the movie. It’s going to be the book. It’s going to be Oprah. It’s going to be all
of these other things that are happening out there in the world, but again, it all
comes down to ME.” [Pause] I hope that when you hear this, that it is relevant
to YOU!
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But, everything that is going on HAS TO happen inside of me: all the
cleansing, all the memories, anything in the way, all of the problems, anything
that I perceive. It’s not in the other people. It’s in ME!
So, I AM cleansing! I am cleansing. I wear ALL kind of devices to remind me
of that. This pin up here, you’ll see that Dr. Hew Len is wearing a pin on his
hat. I put a second pin on MY hat! You know, do double duty here with the
cleansing, to remind me to just keep doing, “I love you. I am sorry. Please
forgive me. Thank you,” which will be the phrases we will be exploring here
to find out WHY they work.
So, do you have any QUESTIONS about where we are going this weekend or
what I have rambled on to say so far? [Pause] Not a one!!
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: Not a one! Not a comment, not a thought, not a...?
Male: We are ready, let’s go!
Female: We are along for the ride.
Joe: “We are ready, let’s go,” get Joe off the stage? Is that it?
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Female: We are along for the ride.
Joe: You are along for the ride? That’s good. Well, how many here would like to
hear Dr. Hew Len talk for a little bit...anybody?
Audience: Yes!! [Loud Clapping]
Joe: Well, it is MY GREAT PLEASURE to BRING UP Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len!
Audience: [Loud Clapping]
Dr. Hew Len: Suzanne? Where is our friend, Suzanne?
Suzanne: Right here.
Dr. Hew Len: Suzanne, can we pass the erasers out...?
Suzanne: Oh, sure! [Pause]
Dr. Hew Len: ...please? You and Bruce, thank you very much.
Bruce: You are welcome.
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Dr. Hew Len: While they are passing the erasers out, I want to make a couple of comments
about the room. First of all, the room is VERY sacred. The room is VERY,
VERY SACRED. So, you need to be aware of that. How you treat yourself is
how you treat this room. If you are willing to accept the fact that this room is
very sacred and whoever built it, built it with great sacredness, then the room
ought to be acknowledged as so. But each chair that you are sitting in is
VERY sacred. It isn’t just a chair, you didn’t just HAPPEN to sit in that chair,
but each of the chairs that you are sitting in is very, very sacred.
So that means that how you treat the room and how you treat the chair is how
you treat yourself. I WANT YOU to pay attention to that! So, this room is
very, very sacred. The chair that you sit on is very, very sacred. The air that
you breathe in in this room is very sacred. So, this room is a Temple and I
would like...at least, I am going to treat it as a very sacred place. So the owner
who put out his soul to build these things, we want to honor that person,
because that person, whatever he was inspired, built this room and you are
here, instead of sitting out there in the rain some place. So, I want to make that
point VERY IMPORTANTLY, the ROOM is VERY SACRED!
So, I would appreciate it if you would NOT have any cell phone conversations
in the room, because you will disturb the rhythm of the room. So, this room
has an identity of its own and it can ONLY do what it was created to do
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without your disturbing it. So, cell phones, computers, all these things, will
disturb the room and if you disturb the room, then we can’t get across the
information. I just want to make the point, the chair you are sitting on, the
table that you are...right here, the carpet that you are standing on, the
foundation...that all of this is very sacred. Without this room, this could not
take place.
So, I get to watch you, how you treat the room and I get to do my cleaning.
Years ago I worked, again, at Hawaii State Hospital and one of the things that
you noticed about the ward...that the peeling of the paint… the toilets would
flush when nobody was on them, the lights would go off and on, you could
hear crying in the room and so, no plants would grow. So this room...I had Joe
bring in a plant. See? So, this plant represents the mineral, vegetable and
animal kingdom. It’s going to WATCH all of us to see how sacred we are. It
will know whether we are in fact sacred to ourselves, which is where we want
to begin it in...the sacredness in how we treat ourselves.
So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this room,
the sacredness of the chair and the floor. Did you know, for example, that the
person who sat on THIS chair had a financial problem? [Pause] Hello? The
person who sat in THIS chair had a financial problem. So, when I LOOK to
take 100% responsibility for whatever it is that THIS ROOM comprises of, I
look at all of you. I asked Joe to give me a registration...names of ALL of you
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and then the room and then the address, because this room was once under a
huge glacier! So, there are MEMORIES of that!! This room was part of the
flooding. There are memories of that! So, but this chair right here, somebody
sat on this chair that had financial problems, like you, which means you get up
and you leave and you leave your crap. This is what we all do. We go from
place to place, desecrating things!
So, I just want you to know that THIS ROOM has been set up in such a way
that when you are in this room, the cleaning is taking place. Once you leave
the room to go outside of the building, you are on your own...yeah, and
ONLY because this room really wants to feel loved and cared for...which is
something RARE in the annals of human existence. So please, no cell phone
discussions in the room. It will disturb the room. Even the computers that you
folks are using will disturb the room. The electric...the cameras in the room,
will disturb the room. So, if you want to get the MOST out of it, you HAVE to
be ZERO. You have to be SACRED! If you are not, you are not going to get
anything out of this! All you are going to do is you are going to get reactions.
You are going to have questions. You are going to bitch and moan. You are
going to get annoyed and irritable. I’ve been through this. This is why it’s
very DANGEROUS to give a course like this, because ALL of the stuff will
come up...I mean, ANCIENT stuff will just pour out!!
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Now, as long as I am in the room, I KIND of feel like I’m safe, because the
room will, in fact, CLEAR IT, but it won’t clear it if you are not sacred with
it. So, I want to see if you have any questions about the sacredness of this
room, the chairs, the carpet, and you. Good.
So, I am going to ask Suzanne...where IS my friend, Suzanne?
Okay, I am going to ask Suzanne if she will come and just stand right here for
a moment, Suzanne, please. I would like for you to take your erasers out,
okay, please.
Suzanne, when somebody erases on that side, I want you to erase it on this
side, okay?
Suzanne: What is it you want me to erase?
Dr. Hew Len: I am going to ask somebody to come up and erase that.
Suzanne: You want me to erase that?
Dr. Hew Len: As soon as you erase it, you erase it. Okay?
Suzanne: Okay.
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Dr. Hew Len: Okay, everybody got an eraser? Sir, can you come up for a moment, please? I
want you just to WATCH something. So, I am going to ASK him to come up,
the person who OWNS the building [chuckling]. I am going to ask him if he
would stand right HERE and then all I am going to do is to ask him to take his
eraser and erase that ‘M’. Could you do that, please? [Pause]
So, what happens? It can’t be erased? Why might that be so?
Nerissa: It’s the wrong kind of pen.
Dr. Hew Len: I’m sorry?
Nerissa: It’s the wrong kind of pen.
Dr. Hew Len: THERE you go! So, it’s IMPORTANT for you to know that there are certain
things that ONLY you can do and if you don’t do it, nobody else can be able
to do it. Can I make that point? In other words, you have come into this
lifetime to do those things that nobody else can do and if you CAN’T erase
the stuff and take yourself back to zero, you are STUCK and you’ll never be
able to achieve that. So, your ONLY enemies are WHO?
Audience: Yourselves.
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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, not yourself! You are at Zero. Your only opponent is this! [tapping
sounds]
Nerissa: Memories?
Dr. Hew Len: Memories! That’s the only opponent! When you don’t have these memories,
you are back to zero; that’s who you are: pure, free, perfect, whole, complete.
When you are a memory, it’s all bullshit...absolute bullshit. That’s NOT
YOU!
So now, let’s say that my friend David was able to erase that? That gets
erased, IMMEDIATELY everything else gets erased from the room, the
carpet, the grass, the mineral/vegetable/animal kingdom all throughout the
whole cosmos, everything gets erased if he is willing to be 100% responsible!
By erasing it, he erases it for ALL and you won’t even know it! Why won’t
you know it?
David: You won’t remember it!
Dr. Hew Len: Not only that, but because MOST of what you are aware of, you are not even
CLOSE to what’s going on. For EVERY memory that you are conscious of,
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which is still bullshit stuff, there are MILLIONS going on that you are not
aware of...MILLIONS...and you are thinking you know!! Bull!
I am going to make that point again. For EACH MEMORY that is in my
friend David, he’s got millions happening below his awareness and that’s
what’s driving him, not THAT! It’s the millions and millions. So, let’s say for
every second there are fifteen memories that come up that David may be
conscious of, there are 15 Million more that he is not and that’s jerking him
around. [Pause] THAT’S what you’ve got to get at!
It’s like Psalms 19:12 or something like that where the Psalm is lamentive,
there are these secret errors. I don’t know what they are, but YOU, YOU, but
YOU and you can have it erased. But you have to know, it’s ONLY you. If
you don’t erase it HERE...David...something comes up in his mind that even
HE might not even be aware of, if he doesn’t get at it and erase it, we are ALL
stuck with it. We are all stuck with it! There are certain things that ONLY you
can clean. If you are waiting for David to clean, he won’t even be conscious
of it! You are stuck now. We are ALL stuck!
So, does anybody know how a symphony orchestra gets tuned up? Who
comes out and tunes them up?
Male: The director.
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Female: The concert master.
Dr. Hew Len: The CONCERT MASTER! So, David is like a concert master. But if he is
willing to erase, everybody...he goes into tune, this gets erased and everybody
else goes into tune. He can tune everybody up and they may not be even
conscious of it! [Pause]
So, you need to know that everything that you experience and MOST of it you
are not aware of, it’s in YOU!! You can’t get outside of you. It’s not possible!
So, when you see out of memory, you see with...where’s my friend Ryan.
Ryan, did you bring the dark glasses?
Ryan: Uh, in my car.
Dr. Hew Len: Can you get it?
Ryan: Yeah.
Dr. Hew Len: I want to make a point. So, I want to stop to see whether you have any
questions. So, this is not DAVID, THIS is David. Zero is David. This is
David’s opponent...not his son, not the building, not the weather, not anything
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else, this is his and this is yours, but when David is willing to let THAT go
and return to zero, he’s HOME!! [Pause]That’s where everything is!
Everything that is perfect and right for David will show up, but he’s got to get
rid of that opponent! If you don’t get rid of that opponent, you haven’t got a
chance! Not only that [chuckling] you make it HARD on everybody else and
THEY are STUCK!
So, I am going to pause to see if you have ANY QUESTIONS about who you
ARE [tapping sounds], who you are NOT [tapping sounds] and if you don’t
get THAT [tapping sounds], we are all stuck with it. Our friend poor Suzanne
is STUCK with it. This is our friend, Suzanne.
So, I want to pause to see if you have any questions...any comments. Now,
she’s going to have a question. Okay, everybody see it? Raise your hands. She
has a question. What does that mean? Pay attention!!
Female: That she has a question.
Dr. Hew Len: Pay attention! That means something is up! [Tapping sounds] YOU should be
saying, “I love you. Thank you,” instead of being there going, “Uh-oh, I have
a question, too!” Bullshit stuff...I tell you! But if she has a question, that’s
GREAT, because now if David was quick enough, he’d start doing his
cleaning because he would be back from zero and he would take her back to
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zero and she’d get a PERFECT answer! She would get a perfect answer from
whom?
Female: Herself.
Dr. Hew Len: Herself and WHO is herself?
Female: Zero.
Dr. Hew Len: Zero. What does Zero open the door to? GOD...Creation...The Infinite!
But you can’t DO it if your opponent is there! So, we want you to ask
questions, but the rest of us ought to be doing cleaning, you know. Otherwise,
you are going to piggyback on her question and then the whole room is going
to be like a psychiatric hospital.
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: It’s going crazy! REALLY!!
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Thank you very much.
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David: It’s PERFECT timing, sir.
Dr. Hew Len: [Laughing]
David: I needed directions.
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. [Chuckling] So, the ONLY point that I am going to make, hopefully, to
get the idea across is that...this isn’t either me or David, but this is what I see
out of it. I am seeing out of my shades, which means I see...crap! Sorry. But if
I am willing to let go of the shade, which is just a memory...I’m seeing out of
memory...I am back to zero. I can see what God sees, with ABSOLUTE
CLARITY!!
That’s all I am going to talk about this weekend...how YOU, your only
opponent, not your mama, not your papa, not anybody, not government, not
Bush, not anybody, not Iraq. It’s YOU! If you are WILLING TO LET GO and
BE HERE, you set everybody FREE and everybody will MOVE until another
memory hits, BONK and then everybody’s stuck. But MOST of the time, we
see out of THIS stuff. [Pause]
We spend 99% of our time looking at this and we say, “That’s for real!” This
is our OPPONENT! You have no opponent, but THIS [tapping sounds] and
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this WANTS TO GO!!! It doesn’t WANT to be your opponent, but you put it
there and yet you are responsible to take it off.
Ma’am, you had a question?
Female: You know, allowing that space between when I wanted to ask the question
until now, you’ve allowed me to answer my own question.
Dr. Hew Len: Yes.
Female: Very reasonably.
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, so you are going to put people like us therapists out of business. We
have....
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: We are going to have to go do something else...REALLY! REALLY!!! If you
come from...thank you, Suzanne.
Suzanne: You are welcome.
Dr. Hew Len: We are going to have to figure out a way to erase that stuff, yeah?
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Female: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: Thank you very much, David. [Pause]
Consumers Report put out a book called How You Can Clean Practically
Anything, see?
Audience: [Loud Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: I don’t know, they had 80 or 90 ways pending and so we are going to find out
a way to clean this stuff, yeah?
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: So, I don’t want to discourage questions, but any time you ask a question that
means that we are ALL unclear...ALL OF US...and you waiting for an answer
to come, like a discussion, you ain’t going to....discussions don’t erase. They
won’t do it! The only thing that will erase is, “I love you!” Why will “I love
you” erase? Some of you are doing it, why does it WORK?
Cindy: Because it takes you back to Zero?
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Dr. Hew Len: What? I know it. Okay, we’ve got that one. It takes us back to Zero. HOW
does it take us back to Zero?
Female: The same.
Dr. Hew Len: You see, YOU NEED to KNOW that! You need to APPRECIATE HOW you
MOVE the WHOLE COSMOS by simply saying, “I love you!” How you
engage the ENTIRE COSMOS...the ENTIRE Cosmos by saying, “I love
you,” but YOU need to be aware what’s involved so you can be AWED by
this stuff as opposed to, “I love you. I love you.” You go, “Oh! Is there a
faster way? I love you. I know there’s got to be a faster way. I love you, I love
you, I love you, lalalala....”
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: But when you say, “I love you,” you can not believe...I mean, you engaged the
whole cosmos, anything that is out The Divinity will put in...will put it back
into rhythm, the whole kit and caboodle. So, if The Divinity says, “I’m going
to take THAT memory out, its going to take it out of EVERYTHING...all
different galaxies, different dimensions, things you are not even aware of, will
pull it off.”
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So, the IDEA is I want YOU to APPRECIATE the fact that as being a Divine
Being at Zero you have enormous [pause] ENORMOUS power by saying, “I
love you.” But you need to know how it works, so that you can appreciate it.
So, I want to come back. Yes, ma’am. We get to clean now: “I love you.
Thank you.” Don’t just sit there like a lump on a log.
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Yes, ma’am?
Jillian: It connects me to The Divine.
Dr. Hew Len: I am sorry?
Jillian: It connects ME to the The Divine!
Dr. Hew Len: Yes! So that’s ONE of the things that it’ll do. As soon as you say, “I love
you,” INSTANTLY that connection is made to The Divinity. Instantly! Why
would that be so, David? If that, when you say “I love you,” INSTANTLY
that connection is made with The Divinity. Why would that be so?
David: Because that’s where we came from.
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Dr. Hew Len: Yes! Did you hear what David said?
Audience: No.
Dr. Hew Len: “That’s where we came from.” LOVE! Not ANY kind of love, not the kind of
love, “Well, I love you if...”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. But, the love that will take you HOME again to a pure state!
That love is when you say, “I love you,” it has three elements in it; three
important elements that you ought to be aware of and appreciate. The first
element is. “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” so sometimes when I
have a back pain, if I am on an airplane, I simply say, “I LOVE YOU!” So, I
am talking to The Divinity because I have something going on in me that
creates this back pain. So, I am saying to The Divinity, “I love you!” So, now,
that “I love you,” that is a PETITION I am saying to The Divinity, “I am sorry
for whatever is going on in ME that is NOT me and I am asking for you to do
whatever is right for me and for that.” That’s the FIRST thing. The first
element is repentance, “I am sorry.” When you say, “I love you,” you are
saying, “I am SORRY for whatever is going on in ME that’s not me.”
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The other thing that you are saying is, “Please forgive me.” So, when you say,
“I love you,” you are talking about repentance AND forgiveness. Every time
you say, “I love you,” every time you say, “I thank you,” you are talking
about...you are saying to The Divinity, “I am sorry, Please forgive me,” and
then the Divinity can ONLY do....
The next step is called Transmutation or Transformation and that is to ERASE
these memories and take you back to Zero. YOU can not do it!!! The
conscious mind, The Intellect, has NO ABILITY to come and erase that stuff
to transform that back to Zero.
So, every time that you use this process and several processes are going to be
given, it’s the process of, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and then allowing
The Divinity to erase; so, ONLY Divinity can erase. So, I am going to pause
to see if you have any unclarity that I have created on my part. [Pause]
Yes, ma’am? Now, we get to erase as she is talking now!
Female: We are going through the process of saying this over and over and over again
and we may hit or touch on the Zero...but how do we stay there
CONSTANTLY? Does that make sense?
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, OF COURSE!!! So, how would she stay there constantly?
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Female: Like, keep saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me.”
Dr. Hew Len: [Laughing] Yep! It’s tedious.
Female: [Laughing]
All: [Loud Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: It’s tedious and particularly it’s tedious because you are looking...you are
looking for what? Results! You are saying to The Divinity, “I am looking for
results, yeah,...”
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: ...as opposed to TRUSTING. So in this country, I am talking about the U.S.,
some of you are from other countries, but in THIS country what is our motto,
David, in this...for this country?
David: Trust the government.
Audience: [Laughing]
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Dr. Hew Len: What is our motto?
All: “In God we trust.”
Dr. Hew Len: “In God we trust.” HA!
Audience: [Chuckling]
Dr. Hew Len: What a bunch of bologna, you guys! “In God we trust.” [Raspberry] Yeah! So,
in this great country, the motto is, “In God we trust.” So, when we do our
cleaning, please know when you knock [knocking three times hard] the door
is going to be open EVEN if you don’t see it below your consciousness.
IF YOU ASK, the DOOR WILL OPEN!! It will OPEN...as opposed to you
going, “Did it open?” Oh, my God! You are only aware of one millionth stuff
going on at once and you are trying to make a judgment? What a bunch of
bologna!
Here’s who you are! Zero, created in EXACT LIKENESS of The Divine:
PERFECT, no intentions, no problems, no desires, no nothing!!! No wishes, “I
wish I had more money.” When you are at Zero, it’s all gone. You don’t have
to do ANYTHING with that, but it takes...it’s TEDIOUS WORK to go from
here!!! Because, the enemies are MOUNTAINOUS
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[chuckling]...mountainous, as deep as the deep blue sea, the surging and the
moving in your mind of this data, this information just moves like that.
So we...each of us have a particular VORTEX that we are CAUGHT in that
WE have to be responsible for; but if we ALL WORK AS A
FAMILY...because that’s who we are! You see, Zero means that we are all
family, “E pluribus Unum.” “Out of many One.” So, Zero makes us
FAMILY!! Can I say that again? Zero makes us FAMILY!!
At Zero, we don’t acknowledge anything that a religion, a race, a belief, there
is NONE of that that you have to deal with. When you are at Zero, you are
home free; free...like King said, “I am free at last.” But, we are talking about
spiritually, we are free at last! [Pause] The only thing between you and
freedom is your stuff!!
So, I am going to pause and see if you have any unclarity on my part. Yes?
Female: You...I guess...my question to you is...the cleaning that you have done and
you’ve been cleaning for a long time.
Dr. Hew Len: Twenty-five years.
Female: Long before ALL of us here.
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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.
Female: And you are STILL cleaning.
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah and I’ll go on until I take my last breath.
Female: That’s the message, that we DON’T STOP cleaning.
Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, you are right. It’s tedious!
Female: When we think about being at Zero, I don’t see it ever HAPPENING then.
Dr. Hew Len: Oh, it DOES happen. Watch this. You see? All of a sudden without your
awareness and this is why you have to TRUST that The Divinity will do for
you, if you are WILLING TO DO YOUR PART. So, all of a sudden OUT OF
THE STORM comes this LITTLE LIGHT and goes [Whoa (musically sung)]
and you go [Oh!] and you’ve got inspired. One little parting of the
clouds...one little parting of the data; but we are thinking, “Come on, hurry
up! Hurry up! I don’t see anything!” But it’s happening all of the time!
In other words, the Light is hitting you all of the time, but you are not even
AWARE of it. How CAN you? My gosh...out of ONE...here is the level of
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consciousness. This is consciousness, this is subconsciousness. One
MILLION below and you are making pronouncements on that? So, you
should give up! You should say, “God, I don’t know” as opposed to most of
us walking around saying, “I know.” Well, you don’t know…. you don’t
know. I mean, you’ve got zillions. You’ve got mountainous...this is what the
message of Jesus and Buddha and all of these; listen, it’s stacked against you!
But you can move MOUNTAINS, if you are willing to be 100% responsible.
But I want you to be clear...this is the ONLY thing between you and you.
That’s it...not your mama, not your papa, NOT ANYBODY! It’s in YOU!! I
think it’s WONDERFUL!
Now, I don’t have to wait up on anybody...as opposed to, “What about you?”
The other person says, “Well, what about you?”
Then, you have psychologists making lots of money because it’s…. we are
into blame. We make TONS of money. Lawyers make TONS of money and
you know EVERYBODY is UNCLEAR? I don’t know...I’ve been doing this
for years, I don’t know any psychologist that is clear...or any lawyer. Do you
know any of them? [Pause]
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It’s GREAT! Then you should come home and take care of your OWN stuff,
because nobody else is going to do it for YOU! Because they DON’T KNOW
what’s going on, so when I work, when people email me or in class like this
and somebody will come and talk to me, I know that something is up and I
start cleaning. This is why I’ll stick in this room most of the day. I want to be
in THIS room while this cleaning is going on.
But I want you to be clear. She’s asking a question [tapping], that’s where
she’s coming from. We want to be here, so SHE is doing us a FAVOR! It’s an
OPPORTUNITY to what? To let the mountain GO! So, any time anybody’s
got any...you want to say, “WOW! What an opportunity for me to be 100%
responsible.”
Female: When you are cleaning and I am cleaning, are we cleaning each other? Are we
cleaning the space around us?
Dr. Hew Len: You have to ask the more important question: “Am I 100% responsible for
what is going on in me?” As long as you are clean, there can be a storm
around you, but you might be experiencing that little sunshine and everybody
else can be going crazy.
Female: So it’s. “Focus on your OWN cleaning.”
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Dr. Hew Len: It’s ALWAYS been! Have you ever noticed that every time there is a problem
that you are always there?
All: [LOUD laughter!]
Female: I think, that’s...that’s true!
Dr. Hew Len: Well, it’s true for ME!
Female: [Laughing] It’s true!
Dr. Hew Len: And on that note, I would like to take a break, please. Can we just take a
SHORT break? Let’s take a short break, otherwise what happens is a part of
you will walk out the door and you might be there, but you are not home.
[Break]
Joe: I was given this book, The Yale Book of Quotations. I thought I’d read all of
them to you.
Audience: [Laughing]
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Joe: Actually, I was reading it to Dr. Hew Len at breakfast and I opened it up to a
page and he said, “Mark that page and read THAT one.”
It said, “We do not see things as they are, but as we are ourselves.” Henry
Thomlinson, an English novelist said that. But, it doesn’t really matter who
said it, does it?
I’ll open it up again. It’s book of The Yale Book of Quotations. I have no idea
why I have opened it up to this, but I am just going to read it, I don’t know
what it’s going to say, “That old lady, who on borrowing a dictionary from her
municipal library, returned it with a comment ‘A very unusual book indeed,
but the stories are extremely short, aren’t they?’”
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: So, rather than keep entertaining you with this, I will bring Dr. Hew Len back
up.
Audience: [Laughing and Clapping]
Dr. Hew Len: Why don’t you...don’t you have any stories you want to tell them about...an
experience that you’ve had...yeah, I am sure that you have a few stories about
how it worked for you or the Earth really well.
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Joe: Oh, okay. I am NOT going to bring him back up.
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: He said, “Don’t I have a few stories about how this process has worked for
me?” Some of you have HEARD these stories because you’ve heard me talk
about them in Beyond Manifestatio… the first one AND in the second one.
Does anybody remember any of my stories...to remind me?
All: [Chuckling]
Joe: Yes, Cindy. Yes.
Cindy: Well, you shared a couple of GREAT stories how you were so careful about
your eating and then you showed how Dr. Hew Len would go out walking and
he’d go have a chilidog or something.
Joe: Yes.
Cindy: Then you’d ask him, “Are you going to eat a chili dog?”
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Joe: Yeah, that story is actually now IN the book Zero Limits. It’s in a chapter
called “Cigars, Hamburgers and Killing the Divine.”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: Nerissa saw that chapter title and said, “That one...I want to read that one
first.”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: She liked that one...and, part of it WAS about smoking cigars. Cigar smoking
has become an ALMOST daily ritual for me. It’s a time where I
PURPOSELY SLOW down and I am relaxing as I have my smoke. Usually,
it’s been outside, of course, the weather has changed, so it’s not been doing
that and while I am doing it, I am just saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please
forgive me. Thank you.”
Now, when I FIRST started saying those phrases, they were just phrases. They
are just WORDS. One of the things that Dr. Hew Len had taught me when he
first taught EVERYBODY in the seminar that Mark and I were at was the line
that, “You don’t have to FEEL love. You don’t have to FEEL sorry. You just
have to say the phrases.” I think it was a little SNEAKY on HIS PART,
because what I found out was that AS you say them, you begin to FEEL them!
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So, I would say, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” just
my mantra, just saying it because I trust him, because I have been trusting this
process because it’s worked on LITTLE things before. Then I’d sit there and
I’d be looking...and it’s interesting because we have all of these lights,
because in some places when I was sitting outside I would see all of the
STARS, which seem a lot like these lights. As I am looking up and I am
saying, “I love you,” I started to think, “I really DO love you!”
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: As I would say, “I am sorry.” I would start to feel, “Oh, my God, I really AM
sorry and please FORGIVE me and then, thank you.” What was going on,
because I am getting electrocuted here because I am feeling all of the chills
going up and down my spine and I am connected right now to The Divine, as I
am saying this. What I was feeling is that...first of all, I DO LOVE YOU! Oh,
my God, I am ALIVE at a time of MAGIC AND MIRACLES and I am
experiencing the most DIVINE breakthroughs, not just personally and
professionally, but just the FACT that I am ALIVE BREATHING at this time
in history. This is the time of magic and miracles. So, I am kind of saying, “I
love you,” to The Divine. Its like, “I feel the love. I FEEL the LOVE!! It is
love! I am feeling love. Love connected in me and love connected to It!”
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Then I would say, “Please forgive me,” and what am I asking forgiveness for?
I am not asking for forgiveness from It from The Divine, from the Zero State.
I am asking for forgiveness of MYSELF because I wasn’t REALIZING the
LOVE! It’s like, ‘Oh, God! I didn’t KNOW that you were showering this
LOVE on me! Please forgive me. I am SORRY! I am sorry because I wasn’t
AWARE! I was asleep!” I STILL fall asleep...that’s why I have to have a
cigar [chuckle] to go through this whole thing again, virtually every day, and
then, “THANK YOU!” because of the experience of world… found
GRATITUDE to be ALIVE, to be ONE with that State, to be able to have that
report. I swear that cigar moment becomes a Satori experience for me!
To the best of my ability I am saying, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive
me. Thank you,” ALL DAY LONG!!! Many of you have heard me say that
before, right down to when I am saying it when I am in bed, going to sleep, so
I am imagining that my mind is taking on that software programming and it’s
saying it while I am sleeping! What I keep reminding myself is that ALL of
the cleaning that has to be done is NOT ‘OUT THERE’...it’s not with any
ONE person. If anybody is saying anything to me, like the email that came up,
shared program, they’ve got the M. I’ve got the M. What I’ve got to do on my
board over here is say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love
you.” Now, as that dissolves, it seems to dissolve over THERE and not just
OVER there, but if you happen to be sharing the program, the same thing
happens.
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So, BECAUSE I keep doing this, I seem to be having a much more
PEACEFUL, GRATEFUL LIFE! I still get stressed, but for the MOST part I
am riding a wave of very BUSY prosperity doing things like flying to Miami,
talking to people who want to have my own reality TV show and hearing from
the Oprah people who want me to go on Oprah to talk about the movie The
Secret. That’s interesting, too. Let’s talk about that for a real quick moment.
I get this call saying I am one of like six people that are being considered to be
on The Oprah Show. There are twenty-four teachers in the movie The Secret. I
am ONE of them, and they’ve honed it down to six or seven that they wanted
to be on the show. So, they were going to do a pre-interview with ME. They
wanted to do the airing I think it was yesterday. They wanted to record the
show. It would have been yesterday, I would have been in Chicago. I went
through the pre-interview and everything and part of my mind was thinking,
“I am WAY PAST The Secret.” I LIKE the movie The Secret. I encourage
EVERYBODY to see the movie The Secret, but when I did the Beyond
Manifestation Weekend, I was telling everybody, “You can watch that movie,
but I think that we are going PAST that!” When we come here to Zero Limits,
I am thinking that we are going WAY PAST THAT, even DEEPER than that.
So, I think that Oprah picked up on that [Chuckling], so I wasn’t invited to be
on the show! I thought, “That’s GREAT, from a Divine standpoint I didn’t
want to go SO CLOSE to this actual event taking place. All I could imagine
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was I’d be in Chicago, I’d be snowed in and I couldn’t come back and I
wouldn’t be here for the event.” So, when I got the call saying that they are
passing on you on The Oprah Show this time around, I was RELIEVED!
Then, I also thought, and then again, I am CLEANING the whole time that
this is going on, “I am loving you. I am sorry.” I am doing ALL of the
phrases, ALL of the time that this is going on, DOING MY BEST TO TRUST
THE PROCESS. Trust is such an IMPORTANT word in ALL of this! So,
while this is going on and I am still cleaning and everything, I realized that “I
NOW KNOW the people who decide who goes on Oprah! I don’t WANT TO
GO on, because of the movie The Secret. I want to go on, with HIM! (Joe is
pointing over to Dr. Len).
Dr. Hew Len: NO! [Laughing]
Audience: [Loud Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: We want him to go ALONE! [Chuckling]
Audience: [Loud Laughing]
Joe: That’s what he said yesterday!
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Female: I’m sorry.
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: [Chuckling]
Joe: All I thought was, “I’ll just CLEAN on that!”
Dr. Hew Len: [Laughing]
Audience: [Laughing and clapping]
Joe: So, to give you any sort of story here, what I am doing on a moment-by-
moment basis is CONSTANT CLEANING, which puts me in the MOMENT
in a state of GRATITUDE and a state of TRUST. As I keep telling myself and
when I spoke to my mentors...I have a mentoring program at
www.MiraclesCoaching.com and a couple of the coaches are here...I spoke to
them one day and I was telling them that I really think that the secret to living
a WONDERFUL, PROSPEROUS LIFE is to REALIZE that if you can BE
RIGHT HERE IN THIS MOMENT, and I mean almost nobody IS, but if we
could be right here in this moment with TOTAL GRATITUDE, we are OPEN
for the inspiration he referred to EARLIER to SHINE IN. When that shines in,
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in that moment, we DO whatever that IS, and it takes care of the NEXT
moment.
In the past, I always wanted to orchestrate everything, strategize everything,
CONTROL everything, map out everything, so I KNEW what I was going to
do this weekend, what I was going to do the following week, have my game
plan, have my strategy. Now, I have found out that is one of the GREATEST
LIMITATIONS I could ever think of!! I never PLANNED to be on Larry
King. I never PLANNED to have Oprah call. I never planned for a lot of my
books to work out. I never planned to hear about this therapist, to end up
working with him, possibly being in a movie with him [chuckling].
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: He said Robert DeNiro should play his part in the movie.
Audience: [Loud laughing] Whoo-Hoo!
Dr. Hew Len: [Laughing]
Joe: He’s saying get a good Italian man is what he thought he needed in there.
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I NEVER THOUGHT ANY of that! What I am finding out is that if I STAY
in the moment, I keep CLEANING, the opportunities keep coming and what I
do is just say, “Yes” to them, even when they are stretching my comfort zone,
“Say ‘Yes’ to them!” Because when I am stretching my comfort zone,
something else to CLEAN! It’s just saying that there is something else for me
to clean! So, for me, in some ways, I feel like I am reducing everything to
such a kindergarten one message level. JUST CLEAN ALL THE TIME!!!
You don’t have to do ALL of the other techniques. You don’t have to do all of
the other methods. You MIGHT!! You might WANT TO! It might come out
of your MOMENT. It might come out of your Inspiration, but what I am
finding out is that the ADVANCED METHOD seems to be the method that
HE used ON HIMSELF to heal the entire ward of mentally ill criminals,
which is going to be SUCH a GREAT MOVIE, after such a GREAT BOOK!
So, do you have any questions of me?
Female: Joe, I have a question.
Joe: Okay.
Female: I heard you say to do that it will put us in the MOMENT, however, what
happens to ME, I find myself saying it over and over and over again and then
finding I am thinking about something else! So, I don’t understand the
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pendulumous effect. If I am thinking of something else and I am saying it over
and over, it can’t really mean “I love you.”
Joe: That’s what you want to CLEANSE on, so that you end up being back in the
moment.
You see, one of the things that was going on, yesterday, when I told you I got
the hand grenade by email that leveled me. I laid down for awhile and I am
doing, “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” over and over
and over and I am SURE it was about an hour. I wasn’t keeping track of time,
I was just DOING it! At some point, the thought came across my brain, it just
kind of wandered in, “Isn’t there a faster way to do this? One an hour.”
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: So, I thought isn’t there a SHORT CUT? You know, I got four phrases now,
“Can I reduce it to ONE?” I mean, this is what’s going on in my head. So, I
wander over later and I am visiting with Dr. Hew Len and I TOLD him all of
this. I said, “NOW I am looking for the short cut. You gave me the four
phrases. I want to know the ONE phrase or the one STATEMENT.” He
laughed out loud because this is like a memory showing up. This is a question
that’s taking me from the moment.
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He said, “Well, one that shows up is ‘tombstone.’”
Huh? Tombstone? Why did I like to be around this guy? I mean.... [Chuckle]
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: Level ten shock waves coming my way, all the shit is going to hit the fan, now
tombstone. What he meant by it was it’s an image! When you turn over any
rock that’s been there for a long time, whether it’s a tombstone or a rock that
you find out in the woods or something, what do you see on the other side?
Male: Worms.
Joe: Worms, darkness, dirt, stuff that needs cleaned.
So he said, “Just in your mind, flip over a tombstone. It will air it, like when
you aerate the ground, the grass and so forth.” That’s another way that you
can do some cleaning.
So, again though, it all comes back to NON-STOP CLEANING. EVEN when
I have the thoughts, “How can I speed up the cleaning?” Where is that coming
from? He referred to it earlier. My Western mind, the entrepreneurial spirit,
wants RESULTS! If I am not getting results, I want to do something else. So,
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I am saying, “I love you.” I am still feeling it for a little while, the pain, so I’m
thinking, “Where’s the next step? Where’s the next one?” Well, even my
WONDERING IT is taking me from the moment!! There is another question.
It seems like it’s over there. Who’s got the question? Yeah, okay.
Woman: You talked about Dr. Hew Len. You talked about the shit hitting the fan when
this comes out.
Joe: Yep.
Woman: You are basically...I’ve lived out in the woods...all analyzing, all judging, all
diagnosing. I mean in psychotherapy.
Joe: Yes!
Woman: All stories.
Joe: Yes.
Woman: The long stories...
Joe: Yes.
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Woman: ...over and over again. You are BASICALLY....
Joe: Throwing it out the window!
Woman: ...throwing it out the window!
Joe: Exactly!!
Woman: The therapist is going to go, “OH!!”
Joe: Yeah!! I think that’s what’s going to push buttons in a lot of therapists, but I
wasn’t THINKING about that. I wasn’t PERCEIVING it as that. They are
going to look at it and go, “You are not going to NEED ME.” They are going
to feel THREATENED.
Woman: Oh, YEAH!!
Joe: They are going to say.... In fact, he’s TOLD me. I said, “When people come to
you on a therapeutic level, how do you work with them?”
One of the FIRST things he asked them is, “Tell me your story.” He doesn’t
want to know the STORY because that’s the PROBLEM. The story is what
they are going to say from the “M” level, that’s the tip of the iceberg. It’s just
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where you START. He wants to clean what’s UNDERNEATH it! But the
story just gives them something to talk about, anchors them in that moment,
while he can do the cleansing.
That’s why I even got this email yesterday was by a person who was
threatened...threatened. I put them out of business and they don’t like that!
Yeah.
Female: So, Joe.
Joe: Yes?
Female: That’s true, and yet it’s not true if I understood what we are talking about
here, if we are actually the opposite.
Joe: Well, I am with YOU on THAT. But see, again...see, this is interesting
because we can talk about those other therapists and we can talk about the shit
hitting the fan, we can talk about reviewers and critics and all of that kind of
stuff, what really matters?
Female: Us.
Joe: ME!!
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Female: Right.
Joe: Me! So, when all of this, if any of this shows up...you see, what I am trying to
do when I say that is I am cleaning NOW. He’s already alerted me. I am
cleaning NOW, so when the book comes out in JUNE, hopefully I’ve cleaned
up a WHOLE lot of this. Whatever HITS, won’t be...
Female: I don’t think so!
Joe: Well, THANK you!!
Audience: [Laughing]
Female: Memory! Memory!
Joe: Can I hear from somebody else?
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: Can I get a second opinion?
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Female: Memory! Well, coming from a therapist’s background, this is such a RELIEF
for me!
Joe: Ah!
Female: The clients are always going to be there. They are not going to go away and it
gives ME something to do in their presence.
Joe: Yeah! This is a good point! You know what? I was talking to Dr. Hew Len
about my Miracles Coaching program.
I said, “Well, I’ve got these people that are working with other people, what is
the BEST way for them to talk to them? How do they interact with them?”
He says, “Just LOVE THEM.”
“What does that mean?”
He says, “Just love them!” He says, “What is it that EVERYBODY wants?”
Audience: Love.
Joe: We want love! We want recognition! We want to be acknowledged!
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So, if they ARE being loved, and I mean that you are saying it in your mind as
you are in front of those people and you are saying, “I love you. I am sorry.
Please forgive me. Thank you.” You are doing your CLEANSING for
whatever shows up when they are talking to you, they will LIKE BEING
AROUND YOU!” So, my GUESS is they will actually RETURN TO YOU
for more of the good FEELING! This is my...That’s my own HUNCH! Yes?
Lady: I’d like to share about that...
Joe: Yes.
Lady: ...because I get to do that every day with your clients.
Joe: She IS with the Miracles Coaching program.
Lady: I have to tell you, my experience of LOVE and being with those people with
EVERY phone call it’s just the MOST AMAZING GIFT to ME. I’m doing
your...you know, doing the...
Joe: Cleansing?
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Lady: “I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you,” WHILE I am listening
to that and THEY TOTALLY have the experience of being loved being on
that call.
Joe: Wow!
Lady: Totally...because, they ALWAYS acknowledge it when we get off the phone,
they tell me, “It’s such a difference to talk to you.” It’s SHOCKING to me,
it’s such a surprise, but that’s what THEY experience when they are on the
call.
Joe: But, do they KNOW that you are doing that?
Lady: No!
Joe: So, they don’t have...
Lady: Well, SOME of them...
Joe: Yeah.
Lady: But I don’t tell them that I AM doing that...we talk about the technique, what
is possible and limiting beliefs.
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Joe: You see, I LOVE this! I LOVE this! When I am talking to ANYBODY and I
am not doing it therapeutic, but I am having conversations with people, inside
my mind, I AM LISTENING TO THEM, but I am saying, “I love you. I am
sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.”
Lady: Yeah!
Joe: I am CLEANSING whatever comes up, ALL OF THE TIME. I am doing it
when I am having conversations with YOU! It is now the background chatter
for me. I am doing NON-STOP CLEANSING ALL of the time, ALL of the
time.
Lady: Can I say one more thing?
Joe: Yeah.
Lady: The OTHER thing that I find is IT HELPS ME BE PRESENT...
Joe: Oh!
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Lady: ...to what they are saying, because I don’t have MY mind going a mile a
minute like, “Well, why aren’t they taking responsibility?” I don’t have the
judgments that normally are there!
Joe: Right.
Lady: They are REPLACED by that chant...the whatever it is.
Joe: Yes. The mantra, the chant, the four phrases.
Lady: The phrases say that.
Joe: Yes.
Lady: So, all is present. It’s who THEY ARE and what’s possible for THEM! I’m
not even there, really.
Joe: [Chuckle] I UNDERSTAND the experience. Yes?
Male: I am curious. Last time we were here Francine would not start up. What
happened afterwards? How did that shift?
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Joe: He’s referring to my car, which you are all going to see a picture of, because I
have a cleansing tool according to Dr. Hew Len. It’s coming up, so I’ll pass it
now. The last time that Dr. Hew Len was here...I’ll give you a chance to speak
sooner or later, but you gave me the mike so now I’m on a roll.
Audience: [Laughing]
Dr. Hew Len: Please be my guest.
Audience: [Laughing]
Joe: I have a luxury exotic sports car. It’s a hand made, very rare, pretty expensive
car. It’s a Panoz. Some people pronounce it Pay-nose, but a Panoz / Pay-nose
the one I have...thank you, I’d like everybody to have one...is Francine. So,
some of you know about Francine. I made a...Nerissa made the business card
based on a photo that your husband took a picture of one time. After I showed
Dr. Hew Len this business card, he said this is a cleansing tool. I started
sweeping it all over me and I would hand it out to people knowing that I am
cleansing everybody.
Audience: [Chuckling]
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Joe: So, I am passing out that business card! Whether it’s a cleansing tool or not,
boy, it’s got me passing out business cards. Look what’s happening right now!
Everybody gets a business card. [Chuckling]
The last time I did a seminar, I had told everybody I was going to bring
Francine to the event. I went to go do it, Mark was with me over at the house,
because he was admiring the car and he wanted to hear it start up. It wouldn’t
start up. This was a brand new car! It wouldn’t start up!! We tried everything
that we could think of. The next day it wouldn’t start.
All I could imagine was that Francine didn’t want to be left alone out here in
the parking lot. She is used to being pampered. She is used to having all kinds
of...you know, bathed every night [chuckling], her hair stroked [chuckling]...
Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: ...loving comments said to her, moments of admiration...but, she wouldn’t
start. So, I didn’t bring her and it was a disappointment to most people. A lot
of people wondered, “Did she start on Monday morning after the event? So,
was it kind of like a psychic type of thing?” No, she did not start on Monday
morning. She had to be towed. She had to have some repair done and now she
starts. She runs and all of that kind of stuff. I am NOT bringing her over here
in this kind of weather. She would have RAIN on her. [Chuckling]
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Audience: [Chuckling]
Joe: But the card is a cleansing tool. What is interesting is that the Panoz crest, you
can see it on the front of the car just BARELY, but that Panoz crest according
to Dr. Hew Len is ALSO a cleansing tool. So, you are getting a double
whammy, by just LOOKING AT that business card! I felt so strongly about
that, that’s being REPRODUCED IN OUR BOOK Zero Limits.
I don’t know how we got on that but...you asked me about the car?
Female: No, how it lies.
Male: Yeah. The curiosity of it is, “Is it the car...or is it YOU?”
Joe: It’s ME!! It’s me! It’s me in ALL OF THIS! I pulled in the email. It’s me in
the car not working. It’s me! It’s ALL ME!
Mark: I got two cents of that...
Joe: Okay.
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Mark: ...for a car objective. From MY spin of it, it would...Joe and I were wanting to
spend some TIME together and he was busy. He didn’t know he HAD that
time.
Joe: Yeah.
Mark: So, I was looking FORWARD to spending that time WITH him and I just
started cleaning on it.
He said, “If it happens, it happens. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t.”
Then, when the thing with Francine, we got to spend two AMAZING DAYS
TOGETHER!
Joe: We got to spend two days together because HE spent that time WITH me! The
car had to be towed to San Antonio. He drove me to San Antonio. We hung
out in San Antonio thinking that the car would be done that day. It wasn’t
until the NEXT day. He hung out with me that EVENING. He took me to San
Antonio the next DAY! So, from HIS perspective, this was like a
WONDERFUL GIFT!!
Mark: Maybe Francine HAD left me a gift.
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Joe: Well, we’re giving a lot of credit to Francine! I think it was ME and in his
case, his perspective, it was HIM, pulling this all together. But I am glad that
you brought it up.
Let me get Jillian. She’s had her hand up there.
Jillian: Oh, I was just thinking about the therapy question that everyone was talking
about.
Joe: Yeah.
Jillian: I trained thirty years ago at a Psychiatric Institute, so my original training was
Foreagan and all of the other schools of therapy that were prevalent at that
time. But what I have seen in my therapist that I know is that everyone is
REALIZING that what is missing is the spiritual aspect. So, people and
therapists have become more interested in meditation and hypnosis and magic.
The kind of “magic” that we are talking about where we are NOTICING that
our thoughts are powerful and our words are powerful and that we are
constantly creating. So, I think that the whole therapeutic community, with the
exception of some Forebeats who have their heels dug in, I think the whole
therapeutic community is changing and growing and accepting new choice.
Joe: Good to hear. I think Craig had his hand up and then I’ll come back to you.
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Craig: I was just going to say that at another level of the Francine actually the two
days with Mark was that you ended up coming up to MY house...
Joe: Oh, yes!
Craig: ...and working with a couple in our neighborhood that has got quite a lot out
of that, so...the WHOLE THING kind of started with...
Joe: ...the car not starting.
Craig: Yeah.
Joe: Look at all of the miracles now.
Craig: Exactly.
Joe: Yes?
Male: I was going to say while the four statements or mantra is therapeutic for
everything; there is a power to it, as you are talking to someone being
engaged. But as you slept, it’s a very important and very helpful tool in
general for people, in just DOING the people, if you direct it to someone. I am
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an attorney. I misstep or I have made promises that I write people...calling me
and I like to say, “I am sorry. Please forgive me,” and direct it to them, then
any kind of tension...
Joe: would have been diffused.
Male: ...diffuses and is very effective. You can tell it’s for healing.
Joe: Yeah, I understand. I understand. You know what? This is ALL very
interesting, but I can’t help but feel that we are kind of on a level ABOVE the
Zero State, because even when we talk about techniques, we talk about
Francine or stories or thoughts, all of this kind of stuff. I think this is all “M”
stuff. This is all memory stuff.
Where I REALLY WANT to be is white board; I want to be here, so that I can
hear inspiration just come in and if I am THAT CLEAR and an inspiration
comes in, I don’t even question it. If I question it, what am I doing? There is a
memory. Why am I questioning it? I am questioning it because I am one step
removed FROM the connection of the inspiration from The Divine.
This is why I keep doing the cleansing! From what I understand how this
works and how The Divine wants to work THROUGH me is I want to be SO
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CLEAR at this white board, white space, zero state, zero limits, that when
Inspiration comes I just do it! I just do it!
People look back and go, “Wow! That was amazing what you did!”
I just did it! I was like a puppet for The Divine. That’s a new phrase I have
been using. I have been “a puppet for The Divine.” Suzanne finished the
bibliography of my life work TO DATE and we thought it might take a couple
of days. It took her over a MONTH, wasn’t it...something like that? We
thought it would be a few pages long. It was forty-five pages long of books,
audios, ebooks, video products, websites, projects, on-and-on and on-and-on.
Now, when I LOOKED at it, I was like, “Holy Smokes! I’ve done quite a bit!
[Chuckle] Wow!!” I was impressed...forty-five pages long!! But I have to
admit, a whole LOT of it, some of it I consciously thought about, but a
WHOLE LOT OF IT just kind of came through when I was doing my thing.
I keep finding out...I’ve met quite a few celebrities like I talked about James
Cann. He’s one that is coming to mind right now. When I talk to somebody
like that, he’s a SUPERSTAR! He’s a major celebrity! You try to investigate
his...how did he become an actor or how did he make these choices...You
know what? He doesn’t have a clue anymore than you or I about our OWN
ROLES! Why am I a writer? Why am I an author? Why have I written all of
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these books? I FEEL LIKE The Divine...this CERTAINLY didn’t come from
my...nobody read books in my family! My father read ONE book the entire
time that I was there...ONE book!!! I feel that The Divine kind of nudged it
and I was a puppet and I said, “Yeah.” I could have said, “No,” but I said,
“Yes.” This is what I think.
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