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1. Typical Materials Composition of a Tire
This table lists the typical types of materials used to manufacture tires.
Typical Composition of a Tire
Synthetic RubberNatural Rubber
Sulfur and sulfur compounds Silica
Phenolic resin Oil: aromatic, naphthenic, paraffinic
Fabric: Polyester, Nylon, Etc. Petroleum waxes
Pigments: zinc oxide, titanium dioxide, etc. Carbon black Fatty acids
Inert materials Steel Wire
2. Typical Composition by Weight
This lists the major classes of materials used to manufacture tires by the percentage of the total weight of the finished tire that each material class represents.
Passenger Tire
Natural rubber 14 %Synthetic rubber 27%Carbon black 28%Steel 14 - 15%Fabric, fillers, accelerators, antiozonants, etc.
16 - 17%
Average weight: New 25 lbs, Scrap 20 lbs.
Truck Tire
Natural rubber 27 %Synthetic rubber 14%Carbon black 28%Steel 14 - 15%Fabric, fillers, accelerators, antiozonants, etc.
16 - 17%
Average weight: New 120 lbs., Scrap 100 lbs.
3. Densities of Shredded and Whole Tires
APPROXIMATE DENSITIES
LOOSELY PACKED DENSELY PACKED550-600 lbs/yd3 single pass 1220-1,300 lbs/yd3
850-950 lbs/yd3 2" shred 1,350-1,450 lbs/yd3
1,000-1,100 lbs/yd3 1 1/2" shred 1,500-1,600 lbs/yd3
100/10Yd3 WHOLE TIRES(PASSENGER/LIGHT TRUCK)
500/10Yd3
10 MESH- 29 lbs/ft3
20 MESH- 28 lbs/ft3
30 MESH- 28 lbs/ft3
40 MESH- 27 lbs/ft3
80 MESH- 25-26 lbs/ft3
4. Rubber weight by tire component.
A tire is manufactured from several separate components, such as tread, innerliner, beads, belts, etc. This table shows which components account for the rubber used to make the tire.
RUBBER PERCENT BY WEIGHT IN A NEW RADIAL PASSENGER TIRE
TREAD 32.6%BASE 1.7%SIDEWALL 21.9%BEAD APEX 5.0%BEAD INSULATION 1.2%FABRIC INSULATION 11.8%INSULATION OF STEEL CORD 9.5%INNERLINER 12.4%UNDERCUSHION 3.9% 100.0%
5. Steel Tire Cord Analysis
The tire industry uses ASTM 1070 and above tire cord quality wire rod in the manufacture of new tires. There are approximately 2.5 pounds of steel belts and bead wire in a passenger car tire.
The meaning of tire codes
Tire identification diagram
Tire identification diagram, light truck specific features
The ISO Metric tire code consists of a string of letters and numbers, as follows:
An optional letter (or letters) indicating the intended use or vehicle class for the tire:
o P: Passenger o LT: Light Truck o ST: Special Trailer o T: Temporary
3 digit number: The width of the tire in millimeters, from sidewall edge to sidewall edge.
/: Slash character 2 digit number: The ratio of the sidewall height to
the total width of the tire as a percentage. If this is missing, it is assumed to be 82%. If the number is larger than 200, then this is the diameter of the entire tire in millimeters.
Construction of the fabric of the tire: o B: bias belt o D: diagonal o R: radial
2 digit number: Diameter in inches of the rim that this tire is designed to fit.
2 or 3 digit number: Load index; see table below. 1 or 2 digit/letter combo: Speed rating; see table
below. Additional marks: See subheading below.
Some light truck tires follow the Light Truck Numeric or Light Truck High Flotation systems, indicated by the letters LT at the end instead of the beginning of the sequence, as follows:
The tire diameter is given for High Flotation tires and omitted from Numeric tires.
o 2 digit number: The diameter of the tire in inches.
o x: Separator character. 3 or 4 digit number: The section width (cross
section) of the tire in inches. If the tire diameter is not given, section widths ending in zero (e.g., 7.00 or 10.50) indicate the aspect ratio is 92%, while section widths not ending in zero (e.g., 7.05 or 10.55) indicate the aspect ratio is 82%.
Construction of the fabric of the tire: o B: bias belt o D: diagonal o R: radial
2 digit number: Diameter in inches of the rim that this tire is designed to fit.
LT: Designates that this is a Light Truck tire. Load index and speed rating are not required for
this type of tire but may be provided by the manufacturer.
o 2 or 3 digit number: Load index; see table below.
o 1 or 2 digit/letter combo: Speed rating; see table below.
Additional marks: See subheading below.
[edit] Load Index
The load index on a tire is a numerical code associated with the maximum load each tire can carry (i.e.: if the car is in perfect balance, each tire will hold one-forth the cars weight, however, cars are rarely ever in perfect balance).
Load Index
Code Pounds Kilograms Code Pounds Kilograms
71 761 345 91 1,356 615
72 783 355 92 1,389 630
73 805 365 93 1,433 650
74 827 375 94 1,477 670
75 853 387 95 1,521 690
76 882 400 96 1,565 710
77 908 412 97 1,609 730
78 937 425 98 1,653 750
79 963 437 99 1,709 775
80 992 450 100 1,764 800
81 1,019 462 101 1,819 825
82 1,047 475 102 1,874 850
83 1,074 487 103 1,929 875
84 1,102 500 104 1,984 900
85 1,135 515 105 2,039 925
86 1,168 530 106 2,094 950
87 1,201 545 107 2,149 975
88 1,235 560 108 2,205 1,000
89 1,279 580 109 2,271 1,030
90 1,323 600 110 2,337 1,060
[edit] Speed rating codes
The code is made up of one or two letters, or one letter and one number. It indicates the maximum speed that the tire can sustain for a ten minute endurance without being a danger.
Tire speed rating codes
Code mph km/h Code mph km/h
A1 3 5 L 75 120
A2 6 10 M 81 130
A3 9 15 N 87 140
A4 12 20 P 94 150
A5 16 25 Q 100 160
A6 19 30 R 106 170
A7 22 35 S 112 180
A8 25 40 T 118 190
B 31 50 U 124 200
C 37 60 H 130 210
D 40 65 V 149 240
E 43 70 Z over 149 over 240
F 50 80 W 168 270
G 56 90 Y 186 300
J 62 100 (Y) over 186 over 300
K 68 110
Prior to 1991, tire speed ratings were shown inside the tire size, replacing the "R" character. The available codes were SR (112 mph, 180km/h), HR (130 mph, 210 km/h), VR (in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h) and ZR (in excess of 149 mph, 270 km/h). The ZR code is still in common use, often combined with a W or Y speed code.
Tires with a speed rating higher than 186 MPH (300 km/h) are indicated by a Y in parenthesis. The load rating is often included within the parenthesis, e.g. (86Y).
In some countries, tires are required by law to exceed the maximum speed of the vehicle they are mounted on with regards to their speed rating code. In Germany, tires that are not fit for a car's or motorcycle's particular maximum speed are illegal to mount unless a warning sticker stating the allowed maximum speed is placed within clear sight of the driver inside the vehicle. Some manufacturers will install a speed governor if a vehicle is ordered with tires rated below the vehicle's maximum speed.
[edit] Additional marks
There are numerous other markings on a typical tire, these may include:
M+S: Mud and Snow; winter/all-weather tires with above-average traction in muddy or snowy conditions. Spike tires have an additional letter, "E" (M+SE).
BSW: Black SideWall WSW: White SideWall
E4: Tire approved according ECE-regulations, the number indicating the country of approval.
030908: Approval number of the tire DOT code: All tires imported into the USA have
the DOT code, as required by the Department of Transportation (DOT). It specifies the company, factory, mold, batch, and date of production (2 digits for week of the year plus 2 digits for year; or 2 digits for week of the year plus 1 digit for year for tires made prior to 2000)
TL: Tubeless TT: Tube-type, tire with an inner-tube Made in: Country of production C: Commercial; tires for light trucks (Example: 185
R14 C) B: Bias belted; tires for motorcycles (Example:
150/70 B 17 69 H)—diagonal construction with belt added under the tread
SFI: Side Facing Inwards; inside of asymmetric tires
SFO: Side Facing Outwards; outside of asymmetric tires
TWI: Tread Wear Indicator; a device in the main tire profile which shows when the tire is worn down and needs to be replaced
SL: Standard Load; tire for normal usage and loads XL: eXtra Load; tire for heavy loads RF: Reinforced tires Arrows: Some tread designs are designed to
perform better when driven in a specific direction (clockwise or counter-clockwise). Such tires will have an arrow showing which way the tire should rotate when the vehicle is moving forwards. It is important not to put a "clockwise" tire on the left hand side of the car or a "counter-clockwise" tire on the right side.
To facilitate proper balancing, most high performance tyre manufacturers in addition place red (uniformity) and yellow (weight) marks on the sidewalls of its tyres to enable the best possible match-mounting of the tyre/wheel assembly.[1]
[edit] Tire geometry
When referring to the purely geometrical data, a shortened form of the full notation is used. To take a common example, 195/55R16 would mean that the width of the tire is 195 mm at the widest point, the height of the side-wall of the tire is 55% of the width
(107 mm in this example) and that the tire fits 16 inch diameter wheels. The code gives a direct calculation of diameter.
Less commonly used in the USA and Europe (but often in Japan for example) is a notation that indicates the full tire diameter instead of the side-wall height. To take the same example, a 16 inch wheel would have a diameter of 406 mm. Adding twice the tire height (2×107 mm) makes a total 620 mm tire diameter. Hence, a 195/55R16 tire might alternatively be labelled 195/620R16.
Whilst this is theoretically ambiguous, in practice these two notations may easily be distinguished because the height of the side-wall of an automotive tire is typically much less than the width. Hence when the height is expressed a percentage of the width, it is almost always less than 100% (and certainly less than 200%). Conversely, vehicle tire diameters are always larger than 200 mm. Therefore, if the second number is more than 200, then it is almost certain the Japanese notation is being used—if it is less than 200 then the U.S./European notation is being used.
[edit] Examples
The tires on a Mini Cooper might be labeled:
P195/55R16 85H
"P"—these tires are for a passenger vehicle. 195—the width of the tire is 195 mm at the widest
point. 55—indicates that the height of the side-wall of the
tire is 55% of the width—107 mm. R—this is a radial tire. 16—this tire fits 16 inch diameter wheels. 85—the load index, a maximum of 515 kg per
wheel in this case. H—the speed index, this means the maximum
permitted speed, here 210 km/h (130 mph).
The tires on a Hummer H1 might be labeled:
37X12.5R17LT
37-the tire is 37 inches in diameter. 12.5-the tire has a cross section of 12.5 inches R-this is a radial tire.. 17-this tire fits 17 inch diameter wheels. LT-this is a light truck tire.
for the BF Goodrich Radial T/A
Tire SizeServ.Desc.
Sidewall MSPNStock
#
Rim WidthRange
(inches)
*SectionWidth
OverallDiameter
Tread Depth
(in /32's)
Rev's permile
Max. load(lbs.@psi)
P175/70R13 82S RWL 46604285-308
4.5 - 6.0
7.0 on 5.0
22.7 12.0 916.0 1036@35
P195/60R13 83S RWL 81573265-305
5.5 - 7.0
7.9 on 6.0
22.2 11.0 937.0 1080@35
P205/60R13 86S RWL 55222265-309
5.5 - 7.5
8.2 on 6.0
22.7 11.0 916.0 1179@35
P215/50R13 84S RWL 91781275-307
6.0 - 7.5
8.9 on 7.0
21.5 11.0 967.0 1091@35
P185/70R14 87S RWL 50618285-410
4.5 - 6.0
7.4 on 5.5
24.3 12.0 856.0 1201@35
P195/70R14 90S RWL 48578285-413
5.0 - 6.5
7.9 on 6.0
24.8 12.0 839.0 1312@35
P205/70R14 93S RWL 66748285-416
5.0 - 7.0
8.2 on 6.0
25.4 12.0 819.0 1433@35
P215/70R14 96S RWL 50228285-420
5.5 - 7.0
8.7 on 6.5
25.9 12.0 803.0 1554@35
P225/70R14 98S RWL 79604285-459
6.0 - 7.5
9.0 on 6.5
26.5 12.0 785.0 1675@35
P195/60R14 85S RWL 84497265-402
5.5 - 7.0
7.9 on 6.0
23.2 11.0 897.0 1135@35
P215/60R14 91S RWL 98659265-418
6.0 - 7.5
8.7 on 6.5
24.2 11.0 860.0 1345@35
P225/60R14 94S RWL 53273265-434
6.0 - 8.0
9.0 on 6.5
24.7 11.0 842.0 1455@35
P235/60R14 96S RWL 79644265-477
6.5 - 8.5
9.5 on 7.0
25.1 11.0 829.0 1565@35
P245/60R14 98S RWL 54322265-486
7.0 - 8.5
9.8 on 7.0
25.6 11.0 813.0 1675@35
P245/50R14 93S RWL 48000275-536
7.0 - 8.5
10.0 on 7.5
23.7 11.0 878.0 1433@35
P265/50R14 98S RWL 91337275-559
7.5 - 9.5
10.9 on 8.5
24.5 11.0 849.0 1642@35
P155/80R15 83S RWL TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD
P215/70R15 97S RWL 72634 285- 5.5 - 8.7 on 26.9 12.0 773.0 1620@35
639 7.0 6.5
P225/70R15 100S RWL 67244285-523
6.0 - 7.5
9.0 on 6.5
27.4 12.0 759.0 1753@35
P235/70R15 102S RWL 61977285-543
6.0 - 8.0
9.5 on 7.0
28.0 12.0 743.0 1896@35
P255/70R15 108S RWL 45982285-561
6.5 - 8.5
10.2 on 7.5
29.1 12.0 715.0 2183@35
P285/70R15 115S RWL 75701285-145
7.5 - 9.5
11.3 on 8.5
30.8 12.0 675.0 2679@35
P215/65R15 95S RWL 78624265-587
6.0 - 7.5
8.7 on 6.5
26.0 10.5 800.0 1510@35
P195/60R15 87S RWL 64472265-487
5.5 - 7.0
7.9 on 6.0
24.2 11.0 860.0 1190@35
P205/60R15 90S RWL 71072265-515
5.5 - 7.5
8.2 on 6.0
24.7 11.0 842.0 1301@35
P215/60R15 93S RWL 67797265-510
6.0 - 7.5
8.7 on 6.5
25.2 11.0 825.0 1411@35
P225/60R15 95S RWL 64148265-534
6.0 - 8.0
9.0 on 6.5
25.6 11.0 813.0 1521@35
P235/60R15 98S RWL 54712265-531
6.5 - 8.5
9.5 on 7.0
26.1 11.0 797.0 1642@35
P245/60R15 100S RWL 60013265-552
7.0 - 8.5
9.8 on 7.0
26.6 11.0 782.0 1753@35
P255/60R15 102S RWL 71728265-562
7.0 - 9.0
10.2 on 7.5
27.1 11.0 768.0 1885@35
P275/60R15 107S RWL 45185265-564
7.5 - 9.5
11.0 on 8.0
28.0 11.0 743.0 2149@35
P205/55R15 87S BSW 88561270-321
5.5 - 7.5
8.4 on 6.5
23.9 11.0 870.0 1201@35
P265/50R15 99S RWL 88000275-744
7.5 - 9.5
10.9 on 8.5
25.5 11.0 816.0 1720@35
P275/50R15 101S RWL 50381275-771
7.5 - 9.5
11.2 on 8.5
25.9 11.0 803.0 1830@35
P295/50R15 105S RWL 53415275-777
8.0 - 10.0
12.2 on 9.5
26.7 11.0 779.0 2061@35
P275/65R16 111S RWL 93892265-240
7.5 - 9.5
11.0 on 8.0
30.1 10.5 691.0 2403@35
P265/60R16 106T RWL TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD
P285/60R16 111T RWL 93229 TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD TBD
P205/55R16 89S BSW 70523270-365
5.5 - 7.5
8.4 on 6.5
24.9 11.0 835.0 1279@35
P195/50R16 83S BSW 60277270-555
5.5 - 7.0
7.9 on 6.0
23.7 11.0 878.0 1074@35
P205/50R16 86S BSW 89159270-222
5.5 - 7.5
8.4 on 6.5
24.1 11.0 863.0 1168@35
P225/50R16 91S BSW 67125270-250
6.0 - 8.0
9.2 on 7.0
24.9 11.0 835.0 1367@35
P245/50R16 96S BSW 53281270-803
6.5 - 8.5
10.0 on 7.5
25.7 11.0 809.0 1576@35
P265/50R16 101S BSW 66711270-229
7.5 - 9.5
10.9 on 8.5
26.5 11.0 785.0 1797@35
P295/50R16 107S BSW 51487270-239
8.0 - 10.0
12.2 on 9.5
27.6 11.0 754.0 2149@35
*The dimensions shown are average values for tires measured on the specified measurig width.**Section width varies approximately 0.2" for every 0.5" change in rim width.
* * * * *
Tire Weight database
(Originally provided by Jesse Lee)
Tire 205/60/13 185/60/14 195/50/15 205/40/16 205/45/16
Avon ZZ1 20
Avon CR338 17
BFG Radial TA 20.18
BFG Comp TA ZR 21.06
BFG Euro TA 20.50 19.89
BFG COMP TA R1 20.55 20.11
BFG COMP TA HR4 Gen2
18.76
BFG Scorcher TA 20.42
Bridgestone RE71 18
Bridgestone RE730 ?
Bridgestone RE920 15 18 20
Bridgestone RE930 17
Bridgestone RE950 18.3
Bridgestone RE92 17
Bridgestone Eager 18
Bridgestone Potenza S-03 PP
20.7
Bridgestone <others>
Cooper Cobra Radial GT
18 17 19
Cooper Cobra GTH 17
Cooper Cobra XST 18
Dunlop SP9000 18.1 17.8
Dunlop SP8000 20.3
Dunlop D60 A2 17.4
Dunlop W-10 19.6
Dunlop GT Qualifier 18 17 19 18
Dunlop <others>
Falken FK06U discont' ?
Falken GRB 19.0
Falken ZE 502 HR 17.0 ? 17.6 18.1
Falken ZE 502 VR 18.1
Firestone FTX 16
Firestone GTA 17
Firestone SH30 16
Firestone SS2015 (175/70
/13) 16 17
Firestone SS10 19 17
Firestone (others)
Goodyear GSD2 ?
Goodyear GSD3 18.7 (215/40-16)
Goodyear GT II ? ?
Goodyear HP U ?
Goodyear HP ?
Hoosier Sport Car DOT Bias
14
Hoosier Sport Car DOT Radial
16.5 14.5
16 (195/55 /14)
16 (205/55 /14)
Kumho HP4 16.1
Kumho Ecsta 711 avail. Q3'00
18.7 ?
Kumho Ecsta 712 18.2 19.821 (215/40-ZR16)
Kumho VictorRacer
V700 20.0 19.95
Michelin Pilot MXX3 24.29
Michelin Pilot XGT V 18.74
Michelin XGT H4 18.09
Nitto 450 17.6 18.3
Nitto <others>
Pirelli P0 A 18.7
Pirelli P7000 17.6 18.6
Pirelli P700 Z 18.3
Toyo T1-S 17.418.1 (215/ 40/ 16)
18.1
Toyo Proxes Z1 20
Toyo Proxes RA1 20
Toyo Proxes FZ4 17 19 22
Toyo Proxes H4 17
Toyo <others>
Yokohama A032R 18.56
Yokohama A008RS 19.97 19.58
Yokohama A008RS II 16.78
Yokohama AVS Intermediate
21.66
18
20.88 (205 /55/14)
19.54 dis- continud (20.85)
Yokohama A520 19.84 19.84
Also see the Wheel Weight Tables
Back to the FAQ9 January, 2003
Common Metals in Road Runoff
Lead: leaded gasoline, tire wear, lubricating oil and grease, bearing wear Zinc: tire wear, motor oil, grease, brake emissions, corrosion of galvanized
parts Iron: auto body rust, engine parts Copper: bearing wear, engine parts, brake emissions Cadmium: tire wear, fuel burning, batteries Chromium: air conditioning coolants, engine parts, brake emissions Nickel: diesel fuel and gasoline, lubricating oil, brake emissions Aluminum: auto body corrosion
Abstract: Tire-tread material has a zinc (Zn) content of about 1 wt %. The quantity of tread material lost to road surfaces by abrasion has not been well characterized. Two approaches were used to assess the magnitude of this nonpoint source of Zn in the U.S. for the period 1936-1999. In the first approach, tread-wear rates from the automotive engineering literature were used in conjunction with vehicle distance-driven data from the U.S. Department of Transportation to determine Zn releases. A second approach calculated this source term from the volume of tread lost during lifetime tire wear. These analyses showed that the quantity of Zn released by tire wear in the mid-1990s was of the same magnitude as that released from waste incineration. For 1999, the quantity of Zn released by tire wear in the U.S. is estimated to be 10 000-11 000 metric tons. A specific case study focused on Zn sources and sinks in an urban-suburban watershed (Lake Anne) in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area for a time period of the late 1990s. The atmospheric flux of total Zn (wet deposition) to the watershed was 2 microg/cm2/yr. The flux of Zn to the watershed estimated from tire wear was 42 microg/cm2/yr. The measured accumulation rate of total Zn in age-dated sediment cores from Lake Anne was 27 microg/cm2/yr. These data suggest that tire-wear Zn inputs to urban-suburban watersheds can be significantly greater than atmospheric inputs, although the watershed appears to retain appreciable quantities of vehicular Zn inputs.
Publisher: American Chemical Society
The atmospheric pressure on the surface of the Earth averages 101.325 kPa, with a scale height of about 8.5 km.[65] It is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, with trace amounts of water vapor, carbon dioxide and other gaseous molecules
Introduction
Enrico Fermi (1901-1954) is a very famous
modern physicist. Under his guidance, human
have created the first atomic bomb and
successfully controlled thermonuclear reactions,
leading the world into an atomic era. His life
was very interesting, and the most well-known
events concerned his ability to make order of
magnitude estimation in physical problems. It is
said that when first atomic bomb in the world
experimentally exploded, Fermi shed paper
debris at a great distance from the centre of
explosion, and carefully observed the drifting
distance of the debris under air pressure; after a few minutes of mental
arithmetic, he estimated that the power of explosion was about several ten
thousand tons of TNT. The estimation corresponds to the correct order
produced by precise instrument available a few weeks later, and this surprised
his colleagues a lot.
Question
Fermi liked using simplified problems to stimulate his students to make order
of estimation in physical problems. One of the interesting problems is: "When
you take a single breath, how many molecules of gas you intake would have
come from the dying breath of Caesar?" For the sake of simplicity, we can
assume that the molecules which Caesar exhaled in his last breath have diffused
evenly to the whole atmosphere, and these molecules were not absorbed by the
ocean or plants for thousands of years. Although these are not valid
assumptions, they can help us forget about the complexity of the real world,
and to make elementary estimations in the simplest way. For the convenience
of your calculation, we have given hints and information as follows:
Enrico Fermi
Hints
We shall at first estimate the ratio of the gas volume exhaled in a single breath
to the volume of the whole atmosphere (for simplicity, you may assume that all
gases are evenly distributed in a layer which has a thickness of 50 km on the
surface of the earth). Then you can estimate, in your single breath, how much
volume of gas would have come from Caesar's last exhalation, and finally, with
data on the density of the atmosphere and the average mass of an air molecule,
you can estimate the no of molecules that the volume contains.
Assume that Radius of the earth R = 6,400 km Volume of gas in a single breath
~ 1 litre Thickness of the atmosphere ~ 50 km Mass of a proton mass of a
neutron Density of the atmosphere on the surface of the earth
=
Reference: The Fermi Solution, Hans Christian von Baeyer
Answer
First we shall estimate the volume of the earth's atmosphere V. Since the
thickness of the atmosphere is much less than the radius of the earth, we have
The air intake in a single breath is about 1 litre, i.e., . Assuming that
the gas exhaled from Caesar's last breath is evenly distributed in the
atmosphere, we can deduce that, in a single breath, the volume of gas that one
intake from Caesar's last breath is
Nitrogen is the major component of the atmosphere of the earth, and oxygen
the second. Since the molecular masses of nitrogen and oxygen do not differ
much, we will simply use nitrogen in our estimation. A nitrogen molecule has
two atoms, each with 7 protons and 7 neutrons. Neglecting the mass of an
electron, a nitrogen molecule would have a mass of
Hence in a single breath, the number of the molecules that comes Caesar's last exhalation
would roughly be
i.e., when we take a single breath, we would have intake a single molecule
which comes from Caesar's last exhalation.
Note
Some students may notice that I have only taken one significant figure throughout my calculations. Frankly speaking, I have not used a calculator in any of the calculations above. From your letters, I notice that some students have tried to perform very accurate calculations, and some of them have even made an effort to analyze the composition of air. In fact, these are not necessary, because under the many assumptions that we have used to simplify our problem (e.g. we have assumed that the density of air is uniform, which is obviously not true), it is virtually impossible to obtain an accurate answer. As a matter of fact, the spirit of the "Fermi problem" lies on training us to deal with a problem in which detailed information and calculation techniques are not available, and yet we can still make a very rough, but barely reliable estimation to get the right order of magnitude.