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Lunch Meeting 11:30 AM - 1:00 PM
THE SPECULATOR Wednesday February 3, 2016
At
Uncle Bucks In Bass Pro Shops Pearl, Mississippi
This month’s meeting topic is
Specifying Traditional and Equivalent “EQ” Steel Studs
Presented by
ClarkDietrich Building Systems
The Mississippi CSI 2016 Product Show
Clyde Muse Center in Pearl, Mississippi
A Great Place for a Great Event!
February 24, 2016
1:00 AM until 2:00 PM
Seminars
8:00 AM until 11:00 AM and 2:00 PM until 5:00 PM
In this issue: Page 2 - President’s Message & Product Show Report Page 3 - February Meeting Page 4 - January Board Meeting Page 5 - Are EQ steel studs really equal ? Page 6 - Chapter Calendar - CSI Events Page 7 - Contact Information
The Mississippi Chapter of the Construction Specifications Institute
February is upon us and will we have an early spring or will winter last a little longer. The trusty groundhog will let us know very soon. I am beginning to enjoy the cool weather. The product show is shaping up to again be a
great show and seminar. This year’s show will be February 24, at the Clyde Muse. The Seminars will benefit all involved in the construction industry. The seminar will touch on asbestos, mold, and mildew identification and remediation. In today’s built environment this touches almost all of us. I encourage everyone to attend this seminar and stay for the product show.
April brings us the GSR conference in Pensacola, Florida. Conference dates will be April 21-23, and we are looking at taking a bus if we have enough attendees. The conference will be held at the Crowne Plaza in downtown Pensacola. The hotel lobby entrance is the renovated 1912 L & N Passenger Depot. This will be a unique historical building to tour along with the surrounding downtown area and a fun venue since there are several events planned to see some these exciting places. Some of the events planned are functions at the National Naval Aviation Museum and at Fort Pickens.
Our next meeting is February 3 at Uncle Bucks Grill in Pearl, MS. See the programs page for more information.
Nick Gibson, CSI
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President’s Message
Booth space is almost sold out so if you are planning to get a booth please do so soon and join this list of Product Show exhibitors.
Exhibitors Abstein & Associates, LLC
ACME Brick
AGC of Mississippi
Andersen Windows and Doors
Applied Research Associates, Inc.
Archway Graphic Designs
Ark-La-Tex Wallsource
Associated Architectural Products, Inc.
Avallone Architectural Specialties, LLC
Benjamin Moore Paint
Brandon Company
Capitol Hardware Company, Inc.
Carlisle SynTec
Cherokee Brick & Tile Co
Construction Specialties
CPI Daylighting
Creative Windows & Doors
Curtis Stout
DIRTT
Dryvit Systems, inc
Duro-Last Roofing, Inc
Farrell-Calhoun Paint
Filing and Storage of Mississippi
GMHorne
Kawneer Co. Inc
Ludowici
Lunday and Associates
MBCI
Old South Brick And Supply
Philips Lighting
PPG Paints
SESCO Lighting
Sheldon Laboratory Systems
Sherwin Williams
Smart Vent Products, Inc.
Solar Control of Jackson
South East Associates
The Garland Company, Inc.
Toto / Nortiz / Hubbell
Tower Industries
Tull Brothers, Inc
Gold Sponsors
Friend of Chapter Sponsors
Product Show Report
The Mississippi Chapter of the Construction Specifications Institute
ClarkDietrich offers a comprehensive lineup of steel construction products and services across the United States and abroad. Using cold-formed steel, ClarkDietrich manufactures innovative products for interior framing, interior finishing, exterior framing and floor framing, as well as clips, connectors, metal lath and accessories.
As the demands for higher performance in all aspects of today’s buildings rise, ClarkDietrich partners with teams of architects, engineers, building developers and owners, contractors, and more on projects of all sizes, scope, and complexity.
Far beyond products, ClarkDietrich collaborations increasingly involve efforts and expertise that support smarter installation and design, including resources for BIM and ClarkDietrich Engineering Services LLC.
Formed in 2011 through the combination of two established market leaders—ClarkWestern Building Systems and Dietrich Metal Framing—
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Sponsor / Speaker
Specifying Traditional and Equivalent “EQ” Steel Studs
Having problems understanding equivalent “EQ” metal framing and how it compares with traditional metal framing? Are you receiving the correct, properly tested material on your projects? Since their introduction much has been done to develop standardized requirements for “EQ” metal framing products. This presentation will address these questions as well as outline the ASTM standards that govern the specification and performance requirements of both traditional thickness and EQ products and how they meet the requirements of ASTM C645. The course will also show how the studs contribute to LEED credits. It will conclude with an analysis of how “EQ” studs are listed in fire-rated assemblies.
Learning Objectives:
• What are the ASTM C645 material and
manufacturing requirements for drywall studs
• How do equivalent gauge studs contribute
to LEED credits
• What you need to know when specifying
fire-rated partitions
• When are equivalent gauge studs
permitted to be used in lieu of traditional thickness studs
Program
ClarkDietrich is in an unprecedented position to help you bring change to the building environment.
At ClarkDietrich, “Stronger than steel” applies to more than their products. It also characterizes the relationships they forge with, and among, key players in the construction process.
Who are the key players? A better question is who isn’t. It takes the highly coordinated efforts of the entire construction team to build structures that perform up to, and beyond, today’s standards.
ClarkDietrich stands alone as a single source for a complete lineup of steel framing products, delivered nationwide. ClarkDietrich champions the merits of high-quality cold-formed steel: It’s light. It’s strong. It’s versatile. But through innovation and rigorous testing, we better those benefits to bring you the full solutions and confidence you demand.
From interior to exterior, from framing to finishing, from complete systems to individual accessories—ClarkDietrich also stands for cost-effective, labor-saving solutions. And absolute code compliance.
The program will be presented by Brian Brentzel, Territory Manager at ClarkDietrich Building Systems
Program participants earn
1 Hour HSW credit
Date: January 4, 2016
Call to Order: Nick Gibson, President
Members present:
Nick Gibson, President
Betina Latiker, President Elect
Dennis Walters, 1st Vice President
Leland Hinton, 2nd Vice President
Keith West, Secretary
Randall Lewis, Treasurer
Paul Tauchar, Past President
Phil McDade, Director
Jim Vinson, Director
John Dunaway, Director
Kevin McKay, Director
John Murray, Technical Committee Chair
The Board reviewed and approved previous meeting minutes for December.
Treasurer’s Report: Presented by Randall Lewis. Motion to approve was made and seconded. Board approved unanimously.
Committee Reports:
Product Show: Betina reported that 33 booths have been paid for at this time with the goal of 50 still in place. She asked that all committee members continue with their lists to get more signed up. Next committee meeting is scheduled for January 7th, 5:30 pm, at John Dunaway’s house. John Dunaway shared that the seminar information is being compiled into an advertisement now that the course outline had been received. Prices for the seminar have been established and John will enter that
January Board Meeting Highlights
information into the flyer. The flyer will be distributed for everyone’s use in advertising the show and seminar.
Programs: Dennis reported that this month’s meeting is at the new venue, Uncle Buck’s, and will be presented by Yates Construction regarding BIM. February and March programs are in place.
House Committee: Leland reported the December meeting, Christmas Party was a success. January meeting will be held at new venue. An announcement and reminder will be sent on January 5th regarding the change in venue.
Membership: Keith reported that current Institute information shows our membership in the 80’s. Dennis Walter’s membership has been finally corrected and he is once again listed on our Chapter roster. Keith reminded everyone to check their status on the Institute website to insure that the listed information is correct.
Electronic Communications: Randall reported that website is current. Randall will verify that the information and registrations for the Product Show and seminar is working.
Certifications: Dennis reported that study session leaders for the spring CDT exam are available upon request. As of now, no one has contacted Dennis regarding the classes. A discussion was held regarding the validity and value of the Certification programs and how we can advertise and share the value with our local construction industry. No solid plan was
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presented, but members are asked to consider suggestions for accomplishing more takers. A meeting will be scheduled for further discussing and making some plans to accomplish this.
Editor/Publications: John that the deadline for the upcoming Speculator is January 22nd. Gulf States Leader deadline is January 15th. John is working on various advertisements and brochures for the Product Show.
Planning: Paul had no report at this time.
SpecHeads: Phil McDade reported that he is alive and recovering following bypass surgery. Next meeting will be January 28th, location to be determined.
Golf: Leland reported that a location is being finalized and he will provide more at next month’s meeting.
Technical Committee: John Murray reported next scheduled committee meeting is February 16th, 6 pm, location to be determined.
Old Business: Product Show discussion.
New Business: Region Operating Guide review will be held following the Product Show committee meeting January 7th. Region Conference, Pensacola. Keith to get quote on bus cost and Nick to advertise and obtain possible attendees
Director’s Comments: None offered
Adjourned Meeting at 6:25 PM.
Prepared by: Keith West, Secretary
When we first started using metal studs it was to be the premier product to replace the old warped wood studs. Then we noticed with the metal studs solid core doors bounced in their frames, window headers sagged and other "structural" issues we never really experienced with wood. So the manufacturers started saying go to heavier gage studs at these locations. We did that and we still had some of the same problems.
Now with the advent of "Equivalency Gauges" we get 20 gauge studs made with the thickness of 25 gauge or less "but they have a higher yield strength" and they have ribbed "reinforcing" which allows the screw to get a better bite and hold. The only problem is we are right back to the first problem where framed openings are inadequate. And mounting items on the wall like media centers, flat screen monitors, speakers and all of the other tech savvy items our clients want in a board room spells disaster without MAJOR blocking and internal supports. (and don't even get me started about how "metal strapping" replaces blocking!)
They can say it's to make installation easier but are we really getting a better product? In
Are equivalent gauge steel studs REALLY equal ?
my opinion I say NO. The manufacturers are able to use less material (equaling more profit for them) but we will not have the same lifetime performance and we have been duped. It's like going to buy sugar at the grocery store and picking up what you think is a 5 pound bag and notice that its really 4 pounds for what you were paying for 5 pounds - makes you feel kinda bushwacked.
I ask my contractor friend that's fixing to install several doors and interior windows what can he do? He says install supplemental wood stud backing. So now to appease my own professional standard I now have a change order. When I go back to the manufacturer and say I want the stud I specified , they tell me - oh that's the new industry standard - we can provide what you specified but it will take another 12 weeks to get along with an up-charge.....really? What about a credit? Nope, NADA and by the way is that wood backing and blocking rated to go into that one hour wall?
The Other issue I have with equivalency is the little chapter in the IBC called - Chapter 16 - section 1607.3 Interior Walls and Partitions. This section requires that all partitions exceeding 6'-0" in height resist a minimum horizontal load of five pounds per square foot. This applies to the framing members only, NOT THE SHEATHING.
So tell me how does this work - I've nearly taken out an entire wall at a job site just by leaning on it , because the installers don't
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attach screws to the bottom track because they are waiting to install the sheet rock. Now there are no screws in the bottom track to make the frame pass the Section 16 requirements and the manufacturer says it's not their problem. That it is an installer problem. So how does that pass a building inspection? Or even address the requirements for seismic? In my humble opinion it falls short of the standard. In order to meet the requirement EVERY stud has to be attached on both sides top and bottom. Now the sheetrock crew has to offset their bottom and top screw spacing. Yeah like they are really going to do that.
Don't get me wrong, metal studs are great for making straight walls and with the right selections they can provide better performance than wood studs. It's just not reassuring when I can take the return flange of a 20 gauge equivalent stud and fold it over with my wimpy hands. It just doesn't inspire trust or that the wall is going to withstand its occupants use over the next twenty years.
John Murray, CSI, CDT Technical Chair Mississippi CSI
The Mississippi Chapter of the Construction Specifications Institute
SpecHeads
The Specheads typically meet on the 4th Thursday of the month. Be looking for future announcements
Gulf States Region Conference
April 21-23, 2016 in Pensacola, Florida
You should have received the November GSR Leader, the newsletter of the Gulf States Region, which has information about the GSR Conference as well as other timely information for all GSR members. The Chapter is already making plans to attend. Contact Nick Gibson if you plan to attend this conference.
If we get enough attendees the Chapter will take a charter bus so don’t miss out on this opportunity to share a fun trip with CSI comrades and get to know your fellow CSI members better. As always the bus trip is a blast and what better place to end up than Pensacola, Florida.
Registration for the conference is open and hotel room have been set aside so make your plans soon to take advantage of the best rates.
Register and find out more about the conference by clicking the “tiny test” link below:
http://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/event?oeidk=a07ebq62h8659ca6436&llr=z9jg45uab
Transfer of Power 2017
FY 2017 (starts July 1, 2016) - Saturday, July 9, 2016. Location TBD.
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Thank you for your membership in CSI. Mississippi CSI is a strong Chapter due to our loyal members. This is also a reminder that your membership renewal is due if your name is on this list, so please send in your renewal form or renew on line ASAP to keep your membership current.
The Institute data base has been revised and each member needs to double check their information to insure that your personal information and data distribution requests are properly set. Only you can make any changes to your information. Visit csinet.org
Thanks Keith West, Membership Chair
Fiscal Year 2016 Calendar of Events - July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016
Board Meetings are held monthly from 5:30 PM until 6:30 PM at the AGC Building on Lakeland Drive
February 1, 2016
February 29, 2016 (March Board Meeting)
April 4, 2016
May 2, 2016
Tuesday, May 31, 2016 (June Board Meeting) Last board meeting of fiscal year
July 11, 2016
Monthly Meetings take place from 11:30 AM until 1:00 PM at the Uncle Buck’s at Bass Pro Shops unless noted otherwise.
February 3, 2016
March 2, 2016
April 6, 2016
May 4, 2016
Thursday, June 2, 2016 (Awards Banquet Evening Meeting) Location to be determined
Mississippi Chapter Product Show
February 24, 2016 Seminar 8-11, Show 11-2, Seminar 2-5. The education seminars will be presented by Joseph M. Drapala, an expert in asbestos, lead, and mold remediation. Design professionals and building owners may be exposed to the legal ramifications if things are not done properly. In this seminar we will learn what it takes to deal with these issues and create safer environments. Don’t miss out on this annual event for the Mississippi construction community.
John McIlwain
Ben Noveck
David Saul
Terri Williams
February Anniversaries
Meeting Location for January
After many years at Trustmark Park we have now moved, but not far. We have relocated to Uncle Buck’s Grill at Bass Pro Shops right across the street. Come join us at this new fun location. Uncles Buck’s is located in Pearl at the I - 20 & I - 55 intersections. This makes for easy access to travelers from all directions.
GSR Institute Director
Product Show Betina Latiker, CSI, CDT
601-359-9835 [email protected]
Programs Dennis Walters, CSI, CCCA
601-278-7705 [email protected]
House Leland Hinton. CSI, CDT
601-932-3913 [email protected]
Membership Keith West, FCSI, CCPR
601-853-9908 [email protected]
Financial Randall Lewis, CSI, AIA
601-601-948-4601 [email protected]
Awards Lacie Gibson, CSI
601-948-4601 [email protected]
Technical John Murray, CSI, CDT
601-948-7337 [email protected]
SpecHeads Phillip L. McDade, FCSI, CCS, FASLA 601-362-9707 [email protected]
Elec Communication Randall Lewis, CSI, AIA 601-948-4601 [email protected]
Golf Outing Leland Hinton, CSI, CDT 601-932-3913 [email protected]
Editor John Dunaway, CSI, CCS, AIA 601-948-7337 [email protected]
Academic Affairs Brad Diaz, CSI 601-913-1116 [email protected]
Education Lantz Kuykendall, CSI, CDT 601-863-0464 [email protected]
Certification Dennis Walters, CSI,CCCA
601-278-7705 [email protected]
Planning Paul Tauchar, CSI, CDT
601-707-5596 [email protected]
President Nicholas Gibson, CSI
601-855-2600 [email protected]
President Elect Betina Latiker, CSI, CDT
601-359-9835 [email protected]
1st Vice President Dennis Walters, CSI, CCCA
601-278-7705 [email protected]
2nd Vice President Leland Hinton, CSI, CDT
601-932-3913 [email protected]
Secretary Keith West, FCSI, CCPR
601-853-9908 [email protected]
Treasurer Randall Lewis, CSI, AIA
601-948-4601 [email protected]
Director Phillip L. McDade, FCSI, CCS, FASLA
601-362-9707 [email protected]
Director Kevin McKay, CSI
601-397-6452 [email protected]
Director John Dunaway, CSI, CCS, AIA
601-948-7337 [email protected]
Director Tony Wright, CSI
601-218-6677 [email protected]
Director Jim Vinson CSI, CDT, AIA
601-359-7292 [email protected]
Director Melanie North, CSI
601-946-5494 [email protected]
Immediate Past President Paul Tauchar, CSI, CDT
601-707-5596 [email protected]
F/Y 2016 Committee Chairs
Jimmy Lail, FCSI Tel: 423-265-0467 Email: [email protected]
The Construction Specifications Institute 110 South Union Street, Suite 100 Alexandria VA 22314 Tel 703-684-0300 Fax 703-684-0436 Tel 800-689-2900 Institute Email: [email protected] Institute Website: csinet.org
Gulf States Region Website: csiwse.org
The Mississippi Chapter of The Construction Specifications institute PO Box 321327 Flowood, MS 39232 Chapter Website:http://mississippi.csinet.org/
Construction Specifications Institute
Fiscal Year 2016 Officers
Gulf States Region President James Bagley, CSI, CCS, AIA Tel: 334-271-3200 Email: [email protected]
Gulf States Region Vice President Thomas Ferguson, CSI, CCCA Tel: 850-936-8186 Email: [email protected]
Immediate Past President William Sundquist, CSI, ASID IP, ICPI, AGC Tel: 423-867-9208 Email: [email protected]
Gulf States Region Leaders
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