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Open House/Community Workshops: Getting Ready Phase 2
Early Stage Public Consultation
Proposed Thunder Bay Multipurpose Event Centre (Multiplex)
Tonight’s Agenda & Providing Your Input
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Presentation – 7 pm, 45 minutes
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Question & Answer Period – 7:45 pm, 30 minutes
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Feedback Stations – 8:15 pm ‐
30 minutes
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Wrap up at 9 pm
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Other ways to provide input:
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Questionnaire and presentation online at
www.thunderbay.ca/renewTbay
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Facebook www.facebook.com/TbayMultiplex
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Print copies of the questionnaire available at City Hall, Community
Services in Victoriaville Civic Centre and Thunder Bay Public Library
branches
Presentation
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Purpose
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Overview
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Looking Back
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Phase 1 Study ‐
Completed
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Phase 2 Feasibility Study –
Proposed 2010/2011
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Renew Thunder Bay Plan
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Conclusion
Purpose
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Discuss proposed opportunity for Thunder Bay
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Report on Phase 1 Study Report
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Gather early input from community related to overall project:
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See & Do – Types of events and function
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Size & Cost
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Location
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Review next steps
Setting the Record Straight•
Council has made no final decisions. Council has only given
approval to move to Phase 2 Feasibility Study
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No location has been chosen
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Not just about hockey or potential of a “new”
hockey team
coming to Thunder Bay
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“Event Centre”
is much more than an arena
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Affordability to taxpayers will be key consideration in Phase 2
Study and as part of the Renew Thunder Bay Plan
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Will not happen overnight. Four –
Five years is not an
unrealistic timeline for development and construction
Overview – Phase 1 Study (2009)
Looking Back Fort William Gardens: Since 1951
Building Capacity:
Fixed Arena Seating: 3,371
Standing Room: 268
VIP Booths: Seats 30
Accessible Seating: 21
Seating on Floor: 1,000
Total Building Capacity: 4,690
Net Operating Cost: $0.4M – $.5
Event Days: 56 – LU 22 games, Junior Hockey
25 games, 3 concerts, 2 circus, 1
folklore festival, hockey playoffs
The Gardens opened in March 1951 with a capacity of 6,000.
Q: What event attracted 8,000 people to the Gardens in Oct. 1951?
Image courtesy of Northwestern
Ontario Sports Hall of Fame
Image courtesy of
hotrodsandjalopies.blogspot.com
Phase 1 Study (2009)
City of Thunder Bay Report
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Comparative study conducted on 10 multiplex
facilities in comparable sized cities in Canada
(eight) and USA (two)
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Population of communities ranged from
80,000 –
150,000
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Purpose of report was primarily to provide
research data to inform Phase 2 Study
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In 2010, City also studied new facility in
Windsor, ON
The “Event Centre” Concept• City Council directed Administration to examine feasibility of a new “Event Centre”
for Thunder Bay
• Based on 2009 Study, 80-100* “Event Days” is realistic for City the size of Thunder Bay (population of 100,000+). The Gardens hosts approx. 55 events/year
Spectator Events Booked into 5,000 – 7,000‐seat Event Centres
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Deloitte & Touche
Study 2009
Comparative Facilities
Abbotsford Entertainment & Sports Centre
City: Abbotsford, British ColumbiaPopulation: 130,000 with a total of
300,000 in MSASeating Capacity: Hockey – 6,855Capacity to host major concerts and
AHL Hockey (only open since May
‘09)Cost: $66MSite:
Industrial area
Duluth Entertainment & Convention Center (DECC)
City: Duluth, MinnesotaPopulation: 86,000 with a total of
130,000 in MSA Seating Capacity:Games –
6,800Concerts – 7,500Cost: $57M US plus $23M for the
covered skywalk and parkadeSite: Downtown, adjacent to old arena
on waterfront near Canal Park, includes
Convention Centre
Mix of Events at the DECC
April Events the DECC = 30
Site Plan
Parking Structure
ESSAR Centre – Sault St. Marie
City: Sault Ste. Marie,
OntarioPopulation: 75,000 with
total of 80,000 in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey ‐
4,817Concerts ‐
4,500Cost: $25MSite: Downtown adjacent
to old arena facility
General Motors Centre ‐
Oshawa
City: Oshawa, OntarioPopulation: 141,000 with
total of 330,000 in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 5,400Concerts – 6,400Cost: $45MSite: Downtown
Interior Savings Centre ‐
Kamloops
City: Kamloops, British
ColumbiaPopulation: 85,000 with
total of 110,000 in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 5,000 Concerts ‐
6,400 Cost:
$23MSite: Downtown, riverfront
K‐Rock/Kingston Regional Sports & Entertainment Centre
City: Kingston, OntarioPopulation: 117,000 with
total of 150,000 in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey ‐
5,200Concerts ‐
6,800Theatre ‐
3,200Cost:
$46.5MSite: Downtown
Prospera Centre ‐
Chilliwack
City: Chilliwack,
British ColumbiaPopulation: 80,000
with total of 150,000
in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 4,815Concerts – 6,000Cost:
$22MSite: Near other
sports/recreational
facilities
Prospera Place ‐
Kelowna
City: Kelowna, British
ColumbiaPopulation: 140,000
with total of 175,000
in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 6,000Concerts – 8,000Cost: $26MSite: Downtown, near
waterfront
Sleeman Centre ‐
Guelph
City: Guelph, OntarioPopulation: 115,000
with total of 127,000 in
MSASeating Capacity:Hockey ‐
4,800Concerts ‐
5,100Cost: $25MSite: Downtown
Tyson Events Center
City: Sioux City, IowaPopulation: 83,000 with
a total of 175,000 in
MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 6,000Concerts – 9,500Indoor Football –
9,500Cost: $53M USSite: Downtown
WindsorCity: Windsor, OntarioPopulation: 300,000
with total of 500,00 in MSASeating Capacity:Hockey – 6,500Concerts – 7,500Cost: $72MSite: Open space near residential areaFacility Includes: 3 community arenas, Senior Centre, 2 gyms, 300‐seat banquet hall for
a total of 300,000 sq. ft
Some Additional Details
W I N D S O R W F C U
T R A D E S H O W S
I C E R A C I N G
S K A T I N G P E R F O R M A N C E S A C R O B A T I C S B A S K E T B A L L
HOCKEY6,500
M U L T I P U R P O S E F A C I L I T Y
CURLING6,500
SMALL CONCERT3,000 Seats
LARGE CONCERT7,000 Seats
M U L T I P U R P O S E F A C I L I T Y
DOG SHOWS
MONSTER TRUCK RALLY
6,500 Seats
M U L T I P U R P O S E F A C I L I T Y
O S H A W A G M C E N T R E
G M C E N T R E, O S H A W A - 8.5 haCentre features
- Main arena
- Community ice pad
- Miniature outdoor skating rink
- Sports hall of fame
- Bar & grill
- Retail store
Approximate capacities
- 5,400 – hockey
- 6,400 – other events
- 27 private suites
- 530 club seats
O S H A W A G M C E N T R EM U L T I P U R P O S E F A C I L I T Y
S U P P O R T S P A C ES I T E A R E A
A R E N A
W I N D S O R ‐
16.7 haCentre features
- 1 spectator rink- 3 community ice rinks- community centre- senior centre
Approximate capacities- 6,500 – hockey- 7,000 – end stage concert- 3,000 – small concert stage- 2,100 – theatre mode- 7,000 – centre stage concert
Arena accommodates - end stage configurations for large concerts- touring Broadway shows- smaller concerts in theatre mode
- 35 luxury suites- 600 club seats
W I N D S O R W F C UM U L T I P U R P O S E F A C I L I T Y
S U P P O R T S P A C ES I T E A R E A
A R E N A
G M C E N T R E, O S H A W A ‐
8.5 ha W F C U, W I N D S O R ‐
16.7 haS U P P O R T S P A C E
S I T E A R E A
A R E N A
DOWNTOWN LOCATION GREENFIELD LOCATION
F O R T W I L L I A M G A R D E N S
F O R T W I L L I A M G A R D E N S - 3.6 HaC U R L I N G C L U B
S I T E A R E A
A R E N A
Summary of Findings – Phase 1 Comparable Facilities
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9 out of 11 in downtown, 7 on waterfront or in close proximity
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Construction cost varies within last 20 years, $22‐$72 million, overall range
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All have major teams/franchises (OHL, AHL or Division 1 NCAA)
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9 out of 11 have major naming sponsor
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Net operating cost ranges from $.3 ‐
$1.2 million/year
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Seating capacity ranges from 4,800 –
6,800 (hockey, spectator sports)
4,500 –
9,500 concerts
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Number of events per year 80 ‐110 range
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Parking dependent on location, downtown facilities all have limited parking and
use existing public and private parking
Economic Benefits –
Deloitte Touche StudyBuilding
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As an economic entity operations of a multi‐use event facility will create significant employment and spending within
the community
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Construction of the building could generate $90 million in total
spending impacts and support more than 550 person
years of employment
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Used by local economic development / marketing officials as part
of the “quality of life”
package to help attract
business and investment
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Allows city to attract a broader range of other sporting, entertainment, conventions and corporate events to the
community
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Buildings have been used as major catalysts for sports tourism and additional entertainment‐related economic
development
Team
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As an economic entity, the operations of an OHL / AHL team will create employment and spending within the
community – approx $2‐$3 million business per year
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Fosters visitor attraction, increased room night demand and spending (scouts, agents, player families, etc.)
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Provides “brand name”
marketing for the community
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Supports local philanthropic endeavours
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Estimated break even average attendance = 4,200
Phase 2 Feasibility Study
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Detailed market study
to assess and quantify the range and mix of events that a new
facility would attract
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Detailed economic impact study
to confirm the short and long term benefits of a new
Multiplex facility including direct and indirect job creation
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Evaluation of the various program and facility mix options including the potential for
integrated convention facilities
and other community facilities
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Assessment of potential environmental sustainable facility elements
including renewable
energy opportunities (eg. solar)
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Assessment of the seating capacity
relative to potential events and community needs•
Evaluation of various site locations
in the City
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Recommendation of a
preferred location.
Report will entail a comprehensive study to determine the feasibility of the construction
and operation of a Multiplex facility and would include the following key elements:
Phase 2 Feasibility Study ‐
Continued
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Assessment of Fort William Gardens facility and site to develop options and
recommendations related to both elements
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Confirmation and detailed breakdown of the total capital cost
including design
and construction, site servicing, parking and other costs
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Capital financing strategy
based on the total construction cost estimates
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Assessment of various facility management models
and recommendation on a
preferred model for Thunder Bay
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Detailed business plan
with information on operating revenues/expenses
and the
ability to support capital costs
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Assessment of possible joint‐venture arrangements
and potential partners related
to all aspects of the Multiplex facility
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Impact analysis of other major sport and entertainment venues
in Thunder Bay.
Key Considerations
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Downtown vs. Greenfield location
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Parking – Dedicated vs Combination Public/Private
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Design and Functions of “Event Centre”
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Program Mix
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Capital Cost and Financing
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Net Operating Costs
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City Run vs Management Contract
What is RENEW THUNDER BAY?
Renew Thunder Bay is a five-year incremental capital plan to enhance
our quality of life and grow our economy through targeted and highly
leveraged strategic infrastructure investments.
•Three main project categories:•Legacy Capital Projects•Major Capital Projects•Multi‐year Capital Programs
•10 major projects/programs in total
•Selection criteria outlined in report
Strategic Considerations & Criteria for Projects
Renew Thunder Bay
invests $130 million into our community
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$47 million from the City leverages $83 million over five years
Total
City contribution: $47.1 million over five years
• $7 million of existing and committed funds
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$40.1 million to be provided from the Renew Thunder Bay
Reserve Fund
Total leveraged funds: $83 million over five years
Sources of Funding ‐
Where will the Annual Capital Funds Come From?
Note: A total of $26 million is currently in place/earmarked for
the RTB Reserve Fund
Conclusion
A new Multipurpose Events Centre would have the following
benefits:•
stimulate the economy through increased construction jobs,
sports tourism, and community redevelopment opportunities•
increase community pride and identity
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improve quality of life for our citizens as well as appeal to
potential residents and visitors; and•
meet the expectations of the today’s customer related to all
types of major indoor events.
“Great cities have great public places to assemble and celebrate”
Open Forum for Q & A
Feedback Stations•
Locations to be considered?
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Size and Seating Capacity?
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See & Do ‐
What would you want to be able to do at an “Event Centre”
as a spectator and/or participant?