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p.cm A@yay :
dilt saihTy ivmxR me. sUrjpal cOhan ke
saihTy kI p/as.igkta
ÜÓÝ sUrjpal cOhan se sa9aTkar
ÜÔÝ ihNdI-gujratI dilt leqko. se sa9aTkr
v Daš _jyp/kax kdRm
v ivipn ibharI
v bI _ kexrixvm\
v wI _n _v kr
v dlpt cOhan
v 2rmawa{ nagrdas &ImalI
p.cm A@yay :
dilt saihTy ivmxR me. sUrjpal cOhan ke saihTy
kI p/as.igkta Aaj wart jEse p/jata.i5k dex me. samaijk,Aai4Rk,rajnItk,2aimRk 0v.
xE9i k Anacar ka jor hE| yha. p/jat.5 kI Av2ar a luPt hotI idqa{ detI hE|
AnusUict jait,jnjait,ip7D_a vgR,ALps.Qyk,mjdUr-iksan AOr svRhara vgR ke
log jIvn se juD_e manvIy Ai2karo. se v.ict hE.| 2n,2mR AOr s%a-VyvS4a se
juD_e log 0k dUsre pr kailq pot rhe hE. AOr smaj ke sm9 mgrmC7 ke Aa.sU
bha rhe hE.| 0k dilt saihTykar kI d<i*3 me. [ska kar ra* ka nEitk AOr
cairi5k ptn hE| ghra{ se deqa ja0 to [s ptn ka muQy kar mnuvadI
v RVyvS4a hE| mnu ke AitirKt Anek snatnI ih.dU 1i8-muinyo. ne wI b/aHm ko
svoRpir in+ipt krte hu0 9i5y AOr vEXyo. ko Apna shyogI bnakr xUd/o. ke
iqlaf VyUh-rcna kI hE| waGy-wgvan,SvgR-nrk,tI4R-v/t AOr kmRka.D me.
AnayR,dSyu,das ya wart ke mUlv.xI bhujn smaj ko f.saye rqne kI saijx
inr.tr sxKt hotI idqa{ de rhI hE|
ih.dU dex Svt.5 ho gya hE| pcasvI. v8Rga.# wI mna{ ja cukI hE,ik.tu dex
ke svRhara vgR ke cehre pr mayUsI brkrar hE| A.g/ej g0,A.g/eijyt nhI. g{| dex
Svt.5 ho gya,gulamI nhI. g{| gulamI ke po8k tTv saihTy ke nam pr Aaj wI
pa#\y-puStko. me. iv man hE.| ih.dU ivµano. kI simitya. AOr Aayog ix9a ka Str
].ca ]#ane ke il0 inTy n0-n0 p/yog kr rhe hE.| bCco. ko bSte ke boz se
muiKt ka Aa.doln i7D_ gya hE| leikn puratn v R-VyvS4a pr Aa2airt ih.duvadI
saihTy Aaj wI logo. ko r3aya ja rha hE taik ip.jre me. kEd tote SvC7.d
Aakax se Aniw) rhte hu0 svaR.gI yatnaAo. ko hI waGy ka ilqa mankr
wogte rhe.|
Aaj s%a-VyvS4a µara pa#\y-puStko. me. ih.dU devI-devtaAo.,raja-rainyo.
AOr sv R senainyo. ke namo. se p/er a g/h krne ka AaHvan to hE,ik.tu bu²,
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mhavIr,nank,Axok,Akbr,kbIr,Jyoitrav fu le,baba sahb A.beDkr ke namo. ka
]Lleq nhI. hone se sv R smaj ka Aaxy qulI iktab kI trh pa#k ke samne
hE|
Sp*3 hE ik ijsne Nyay,smta,shAiStTv,b.2uTv,2mRinrpe9ta AOr manvta
kI bat kI hE t4a v R-VyvS4a jEse smaj kI iv63nkarI soc ko nkara
hE,]Nhe. jan-bUzkr njr.daj ikya ja rha hE| manvta AOr 0kta kI bat krne
vale ko dbaya ja rha hE|
sUrjpal cOhan ke dilt iv8yo. AOr saihTy ÜAaTmk4a,jIvnI,kivta0.
AaidÝ ke ma@ym se 0k l.be AseR se jante hE.| pa#ko. ke sa4 ]nke A.tr.g s.b.2
wI hE.| dilt vgR 'itrSk<t' ko jb p!_ta hE to ]se 'itrSk<t'ke k{ p/s.g Apne
jIvn ke bIte idno. kI yad idlate hE.| qaskr 'jIjI'ÜsUrjpal kI matajIÝ ka
SvaS$y AOr ]s halt me. wI ga.v me. sfa{ krne kI ivvxta,jU#n me. [k3\#I kI
g{ dhI ka ibqrna AOr ]s pr ]nkI pID_a mn me. cITkar pEda krtI hE| ga.vo.
me. dilto. ka samaijk jIvn #akuro. AOr sv oR. se Aat.ikt rhta hE AOr [s
5asdI se Aaj wI dilt smaj muKt nhI. hE| [s 5asd jIvn ko sUrjpal ne
sumu+ cmRkar ke ikNhI. ApirhayR kar vx begar nhI. krne ke il0 0k-do idn
nhI. Aane pr p.cayt bulakr ta} qcera se jUto. se ip3a{ krvakr Apna mnor.jn
krne ke p/s.g me. ]wara hE| bad me. dilto. ko hI puils se AreS3 krvane kI
#akur l3UrI kI kucale. yh btatI hE. ik Svt.5 wart ke lokt.5 me. puils AOr
p/xasn dilto. kI r9a ke il0 nhI. bne hE.,biLk ]nkI S4apna sv oR t4a
sam.tvad ke [xaro. pr dilto. ke dmn ke il0 kI g{ hE|
leqk ne Apne kayaRly wart srkar ke ]p¢m 0s _3I _sI _,n{ idLlI me.
woga t4a Apne kayaRly ke p/xasink p/b.2k Xyam guPta t4a ]p-p/b.2k 0s _0s
_ma4ur ke Vyvhar ke µara reqa.ikt ikya| leqk ne shkmIR sa4I srdar 0s _0n _
]Ppl dilto. ke p/it 6< a rqte hE. AOr sa.p/daiyk d.go. me. leqk v dUsre ANy
dilto. ne ]se bcaya 4a| srdar 0s _0n _]Ppl shI A4oR. me. s.pU R wartIy smaj
ka p/itini2Tv krte hE.| [sI ¢m me. dilto. kI iviwNn jait 63ko. ke AapsI
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s.b.2o. ka leqa-joqa mhTvpU R A@yay bnkr samne Aaya hE| dilt wI dUsre
dilt ko hIn mante hE.|
[s s.dwR me. 's.tPt'ke #akur jyis.h ka Vyvhar wI ]tna hI p/as.igk
hE| #akuro. ka dbdba AwI wI hE| ve jEsa cahte hE.,vEsa hI krte hE.| sUrjpal
AapbItI ilq rhe hE. to p/amai kta AOr pu*3 hotI hE| 0ese k{ p/s.g 'hErI kb
Aa0ga' 0v. 'nya b/aHm ' khanI s.g/h me. beizzk +p se Aa0 hE. ijnme. Apman,
itrSkar,7uAa7Ut,Aai4Rk,samaijk t4a xarIirk xo8 Aaid ka v Rn hE| leqk
ne dilt jIvn ke k{ ko o. ko Alg-Alg !.g se 7uAa hE| 0eithaiskta kI
d<i*3 se deqa ja0 to Kyo. 7upa{ ja rhI hE dilto. kI kubaRnI? dex kI hjaro.
jaityo. kI 7a5-7a5a0. Ab 0hsas krne lgI hE. ik ]Nhe. janbUzkr 2mR kI
AfIm ipla{ ja rhI hE taik dilt AOr svRhara vgR ke +p me. ]wrne valI pO2
ka AasanI se dohn ikya ja ske| leqk ne 'matadIn' kI jIvnI me. ilqa hE
ik matadIn 0k mhan dilt ¢a.itkarI yo²a to 4e hI,sa4 hI vh sn ÓÚ×Ù
kI ¢a.it ke jnk wI rhe hE.| [s dex ke sv R [ithaskaro. ne ApnI leqnI ke
ma@ym se wart ke vIro. v vIra.gnaAo. ke p/it hmexa ]dasInta hI idqa{ hE|
Aaj pa#\y puStko. me. vIra.gna 'zlkarI ba{' ka pa# nhI. joD_a ja skta? kEse
joD_te? vh to dilt korI smaj kI 4I| dex kI p/4m mihla ixi9ka 'saiv5I
fu le' ke nam se ix9aivd\ Kyo. Aniw) hE.? shI mayne me. ih.dI kI ih.dU s.Sk<it
me. dilt saihTy 0v. pa5o. ke il0 AwI tk ]ict S4an ka Awav hE| ik.tu hm
yh wUl jate hE. ik pa#\ypuStko. me. S4an pane ke il0 idl me. S4an hona j+rI
hE|
'p/yas','Kyo. ivXvas k+>' t4a 'kb hogI vh wor' kaVy s.g/ho. me. kiv
ne 0ese k{ p/as.igk p/s.go. ko ]#a0 hE.,jo wartIy smaj AOr saihTy ke il0
idxasUck hE.|
[s p/kar saihTy smajsape9 hE| saihTy kI mUl s.vedna ke sa4-sa4
dilt saihTy mnu*y kI Svt.5ta,smanta AOr b.2uTv kI wavna ko svoRpr
manta hE| sc bat to yh hE ik ih.dU 2mR yid smta kI bat krne lgega to
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]skI v R-VyvS4a qtre me. pD_ ja0gI AOr v R-VyvS4a kI smaiPt pr yh 2mR
tax ke mhl kI trh wrwrakr n*3 ho ja0ga| Aaj sv R AOr dilt
saihTykaro. ,bui²jIivyo.,ix9ko.,netaAo. ko iml-bE#kr wart t4a iv ai4Ryo. ke
wiv*y ke bare me. punivRcar kI AavXykta hE| d/o acayR µara Aaj ke 0klVyo. ko
SvIk<t krna hI hoga| yid pa#\y puStko. me. pirvtRn kI p/as.igkta ko nkara
gya to dex me. g<hyu² ke qtre se 3ala nhI. ja skta|
ÜÓÝ sUrjpal cOhan se sa9aTkar
ÜÔÝ ihNdI-gujratI dilt leqko. se sa9aTkr
v Daš _jyp/kax kdRm
v ivipn ibharI
v bI _ kexrixvm\
v wI _n _v kr
v dlpt cOhan
v 2rmawa{ nagrdas &ImalI
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ÜÓÝ sUrjpal cOhan se sa9aTkar Üs.i9Pt pircy Ý
jNm : ÔÒ Ap/El,ÓÛ××,fusavlI,jnpd-AlIg!_Ü]%r p/dexÝ|
ix9a : bI _0 _ÜidLlI ivXviv alyÝ,Anek ra* Iy Str kI p5-pi5kaAo. me.
kivta0>,gIt,khainya>,balgIt,leq,i3Ppi ya> AOr k4a-s.Smr p/kaixt|
phlI khanI : '6a3e ka sOda' lokmt smacar ÜihNdI dEinkÝ× nvMbr,ÓÛÛÕ A.k
me. p/kaixt|
p/kaixt k<itya> : kivta s.g/h-'p/yas','Kyo. ivXvas k+'.,'kb hogI vh
wor',khanI s.g/h-'hErI kb Aayega','nya b/aHm 'AaTmk4a-'itrSk<t', 's.tPt',
jIvnI-'matadIn',balgIt s.g/h-'bCce sCce ikSse'|
sMp/it : wart srkar ke ]p¢m Ü0s _3I _sI _Aaf [. .iDya ilim3eD,n{ idLlIÝ me.
]p p/b.2k Üp/xasnÝke pd pr kayRrt|
sMpkR : DI _ÔÒ,0s _3I _sI _kalonI,mhrOlI roD,n{ idLlI-ÓÓÒÒÓÙ
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DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : dilt saihTy manvta ka saihTy hE| yh swI ke kLya kI
bat krta hE| gEr-dilt saihTy dilto. ke Apman AOr hIntabo2 se wra pD_a
hE| dilt cetna kI sa4Rk AiwVyiKt dilt saihTy me. hI deqI ja sktI hE|
dilt saihTy mUlt: samaijk Aa.doln se juD_a hE| samaijk pirvtRn
lana,ANyay kI smaiPt krna [ska ]±eXy hE| sI2e-sI2e xBdo. me. kha ja0 to
yhI khU>ga ik gEr-dilt saihTy dilt saihTy ke sMmuq Ab basI ho cuka hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : ]JJvl hE| [sne wa8a ke Str pr Aiwjat s.Skaro. ko toD_ne
ka kayR ikya hE| vcRSvvadI wa8a kI jgh smtavadI wa8a ka p/vex karaya hE|
iktabI,k<i5m AOr g!_I hu{ wa8a kI jgh rojmraR kI ij.daidl wa8a ka p/yog
dilt saihTy ka ]JJvl p9 hE| Ab dilt saihTy ke dirya ko bhne se ko{
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rok nhI. skta| khanI, kivta, ]pNyas, AaTmk4a, na3k,k4a-
s.Smr ,DayrI-A.x-swI iv2aAo. me. dilt saihTy Aa rha hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : sc kha jaye to dilt saihTy 0k jlte hu0 dIpk ke sman
hE,rah se w3ka huAa pa#k soc-smzkr Apne g.tVy kI Aor cl pD_ta hE|
dilt saihTy me. v R-VyvS4a ke ivd/oh,Aa¢ox,dilt Vy4a,woge hu0 y4a4R,sam.tI
Aat.k AOr ATyacar ka ivro2 muqr hE| mE. 0k bat kI Aor Aapka @yan
idlana cahU>ga ik sn\ ÓÛÛÚ se phle ijtne sa.p/daiyk d.ge hote 4e,]nme. 0kdm
se kmI AayI hE| [ska 0kma5 kar rha hE jnta me. jag<it ka Aana AOr yh
jag<it Aa{ hE dilt saihTy se| dilt saihTy dohre AOr tIsre kI jankarI
deta hE| yh AaTmsMman kI bat krta hE,yh wa{care 0v. brabrI kI bat krta
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
sUrjpal cOhan : Aapke [s sval ka ]%r mE. phle hI ivStar se de cuka hU>|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
sUrjpal cOhan : ha>,Kyo. nhI.| Aap tulnaTmk A@yyn kre. to Svt: hI jan
ja0>ge ik dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. hrek ib.du pr iktna warI A.tr
hE|
dilt vgR ke saihTykaro. ne klm ]#akr Apne vgR kI yatnaAo. AOr
s.vednaAo. pr ilqna xu= ikya hE| A.tvRStu ke A.tgRt dilt saihTy ne ¢a.itkarI
pirvtRn ik0 hE.| yh phlI bar dilt saihTy ne hI ikya hE ik ]sne
sO.dyRxaS5Iy ksOi3ya> hI bdl dI.| Ab sO.dyRxaS5 kI jgh smajxaS5 p/muq
ho gya hE| dilt saihTy ko smzne ke il0 smajxaS5 kI wUimka b!_ g{ hE|
dilt saihTy wartIy saihTy me. n{ AOr ivix*3 2ara hE| [s 2ara ne wartIy
saihTy ko ifr se sm<² ikya hE| [ska Sv+p Aiql wartIy hE| dilt
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saihTy ne wartIy saihTy ko nye Anuwv,n{ AnuwUit,nye xBd,nye nayk,n{
d<i*3 AOr vedna-ivd/oh ka rsayn idya hE| dilt saihTy ke kar wartIy
saihTy kI smI9a ka i9itj ivSt<t huAa hE| samaijk, Aai4Rk, 2aimRk,
saihiTyk AOr rajnEitk swI ib.duAo. pr tulnaTmk A@yyn kI Aaj ATy.t
AavXykta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale
dilto. 0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
sUrjpal cOhan :dilt saihTy s.pU R manv kLya ke il0 hE| gEr-dilt saihTy
me. Anek saihTykaro. ne igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me.e. rhne valo. pr leqn ikya
hE AOr Aaj wI kr rhe hE.| leikn ]nme. ]nkI yatna AOr dudRxa ka hI ic5 hE|
s.68R v cetna ke Svr gEr-dilt leqn me. suna{ hI nhI. pD_te| gEr-dilt leqko.
ne hmexa se ApnI leqnI,]nkI 7iv AOr ]nke pa5o. ka cir5 ibgaD_ne ke il0
hI cla{ hE| sEkD_o. v8oR. ke bad Ab mUk ¢.dn ko dilt saihTy ke ma@ym se
va~I iml rhI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg man
rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
sUrjpal cOhan : [s dex me. AaidvasI smaj pr wI dilt smaj se Ai2k
ATyacar hu0 hE. AOr Aaj wI ho rhe hE.| Dašš _babasahb A.beDkr ne wart ke dilt
AaidvasI v smaj ke dUsre inMn vgR ke logo. ko 0k sU5 me. iprone ka mhTvpU R
kayR ikya hE| leikn yh ic.tajnk hI hE ik AaidvasI smaj Aaj tk Apne
ko dilto. se Alg hI manta rha hE| yh Alg bat hE ik Aar9 ke tht
srkarI nOkrI pane tk hI yh smaj dilt smaj ke sa4 qD_a idqa{ deta
hE,ANy4a sCca{ to yh hE ik AaidvasI smaj Aaj wI ih.dU 2mR v ]nke devI-
devtaAo. ko !one me. hI ApnI xan smzta rha hE AOr dilto. se gEr-dilto. kI
trh }>c-nIc kI wavna pale hu0 hE.| [ska 0kma5 kar yh hE ik [s smaj
ko ih.dU 2mR v ]s VyvS4a se icpke rhna|
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bIsvI. xtaBdI me. baba sahb Daš _wImrav A.beDkr jo dilt yatnaAo. ke
wuKtwogI 4e,ve mhamanv gOtm bu² ke is²a.to. ko Aa2ar mankr pUrI g.wIrta se
dilt ke duqo. ke kar o. ka pta lgakr ra* Iy hI nhI.,A.traR* Iy Str pr [Nhe.
]jagr kr idqaya| Daš _baba ssahb ka in*k8R 4a-"ih.dU 2mR AOr ]ske 2mRg/.4
hI dilt dudRxa ke il0 ]%rdayI hE. AOr jb tk dilt ]nme. AaS4a rqte
hE.,jIvt rhte muiKt nhI.|" bs 0esa hI hal Aaj AaidvasI smaj ke logo. ka
hE| yh smaj Aaj wI Apne ko dilt smaj se Alg v &e*# mane bE#a hE|
Anp!_o. kI to bat dUr,p!_e-ilqe bD_e-bD_e Ai2kairyo. ke 6r -Aa.gn me. dIvaro. pr
ih.dU-devI-devtaAo. ke ic5 zUlte njr Aa0>ge| baba sahb Daš _A.beDkr ke ic5 Apne
6r me. lgate hu0 [s smaj ke logo. ko xmR AatI hE| [s smaj ke logo. ke
2aimRk AOr samaijk kayR pUrI trh se ih.dUvadI hI hE.,leikn htax v inrax
hone kI j+rt nhI. hE| AaidvasI smaj se wI saihTykar inklkr bahr Aa rhe
hE. AOr bD_I tejI se leqn ke 9e5 me. nam wI kma rhe hE.| 2Ire-2Ire [s smaj ke
logo. me. jag<it Aa rhI hE| [s smaj ke logo. me. A9r-)an to bD_I tejI se
fEla hE ,leikn ix9a ka Awav Ab wI hE,ix9a se ivvek jagta hE| ijs idn
AaidvasI smaj me. ivvek jag ja0ga,]s idn tSvIr ka +q hI Alg ho
ja0ga|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 'dilt' ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval
]#ate hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.2wR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : 0ese sval mra#I ke dilt saihTy ko lekr wI ]#aye g0 4e|
vha> ke saihTykaro. ÜgEr-diltÝ ne wI bD_I hay-toba mca{ 4I,leikn Aaj Aap
deq hI rhe hE. ik mra#I ka dilt saihTy iktnI }>ca{ pr phu>c gya hE| Ab
mra#I dilt saihTy ka ivro2 krne valo. kI boltI b.d ho g{ hE| jb [s dex
me. lilt saihTy,s.Sk<t saihTy ya sI2e-sI2e khe. ih.dUvadI saihTy ho skta hE
to dilt saihTy Kyo. nhI. ho skta? [tne idno. se gEr-dilt leqk hI to
ilqte Aa0 hE. dilto. pr| leikn Aaj tk iksI gEr-dilt leqk ne ko{ 0esI
khanI,kivta ya ]pNyas nhI. ilqa,ijse dilto. ne sh8R SvIkar ikya ho ya
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Apna mana ho| Ab dilto. ne Apne duq-ddR Svy. ilqne xu= kr id0 to bs
mc gya bval- hm Kyo. nhI. ilq skte dilt saihTy? Kya dilto. pr ilqne
ke il0 dilt hona j+rI hE?-[s trh kI beisr-pEr kI bate. ye gEr-dilt leqk
krte rhe hE.| ihNdI ke [n gEr-dilt leqko. ko kwI kCcapn to kwI n.gapn
njr Aata hE| [Nhe. to dilt saihTykaro. µara iliqt jIvn kI vaStivkta se
i6n AatI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke
iqlaf ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : yh #Ik hE ik dilto. me. wI jaitwed hE,leikn yh jaitwed
Aaya kha> se? yh wed ih.duAo. kI smaj-VyvS4a se hI to Aaya hE| VyvS4a kI
[s ga># ko Ab dilt leqk sulzane me. lge hE.| dilto. me. Jaaitwed kI bat
khkr ye gEr-dilt dilt Aa.doln ko w3kane ka p/yas krte rhte hE.| [n bato.
pr dilt leqko. ko Ai2k @yan dene kI j+rt nhI. hE| Aaj swI dilt leqk
Apne-Apne leqn kayR me. pUre mnoyog se lge hE.| 2Ire-2Ire dilto. me. jaitwed kI
smSya se 7u3kara iml rha hE| Ab 2Ire-2Ire hI shI,dilto. me. Aaps me. ro3I
AOr be3I ka s.b.2 S4aipt ho rha hE| hme. Ab yh mankr clna hoga ik swI
dilt 0k hI purqe kI AOlad hE.| hme. gEr-dilto. kI bekar kI saijxo. se bcna
hoga|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va p!_e-
ilqe dilto. ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nse muiKt
ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
sUrjpal cOhan : [ska 0kma5 kargr ]pay bO² dxRn AOr baba sahb
A.beDkr kI ivcar2ara hI hE| jb tk dilt smaj ke log ih.dU 2mR me. ivXvas
bnaye rqe.ge,yh smSya bnI rhegI| [s trh ke logo. kI halt vEsI hI bnkr rh
jatI hE,jEse 2obI ka ku%a n 6r ka n 6a3 ka| 0ese log ibna bat ke dUsro.
ka 2mR !one me. lge rhte hE.| ye sa.{ babaAo.,murarI bapuAo.,yoigyo. v ih.dU devI-
devtaAo. ko !one me. hI sarI ]m/ VytIt kr dete hE.| [n logo. me. AaTm sMman kI
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kmI hE| dUsre ke bap ko Apna bap khne me. ApnI xan smzte hE.| leikn
inrax hone kI j+rt nhI. hE| Ab 0ese logo. me. wI cetna Aa rhI hE| 2Ire-2Ire ye
log wI jag rhe hE. AOr [nme. AaTm sMman wI jag rha hE| [nme dilt saihTy
ke ma@ym se "Aveyrnes" Aa rhI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid ha> to
Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
sUrjpal cOhan : [s dex ke dilt xu= se hI bO² hE.| ih.dU to kt{ nhI. hE.|
ih.duAo. ke rIit-irvaj se hmare rIit-irvaj mel nhI. qate| hmare devI-devta ih.dU
devI-devtaAo. se iwNn hE.| hmarI pUja-p²it wI Alg hE| bO² 2mR manvtavadI
2mR hE| yh 2mR sbke kLya kI bat krta hE| yh 2mR vE)aink ksO3I pr wI
qra hE| [sil0 to baba sahb Daš _A.beDkr ne yhI 2mR cuna 4a| mE.ne kha hE ik
[s dex ke dilt jNm se hI bO² hE.| bO² dxRn 0v. baba sahb kI ix9aAo. se
hI dilt smaj ka wla ho skta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga? ha>,to kEse
AOr na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar hone vala nhI. hE| dilto.
ko p!_-ilqkr Apna ivvek jgana hoga| AaTm-sMman phcanna hoga| dilto.
ko sMman ke sa4 ro3I caih0| dex ke dilto. ko jo sMman imla hE,vh bO²
2Mm Apna kr hI imla hE| leikn [ske sa4-sa4 dilto. ko Apne puXtEnI 2.2o..
ko 7oD_kr nye 2.2e Apnane ho.ge| ]Nhe. nOkrI ke sa4-sa4 ] og 2.2o.,Vyapar v
ix9a ke 9e5 me. wI Aana hoga| man lo ik yid 2mR pirvtRn kr wI
ilya,leikn Apne ]NhI. puXtEnI kayoR. me. lge rhe to 2mR pirvtRn se ko{ fayda
nhI. hoga| dilto. ko Apne +i!_vadI ivcaro. v kup/4aAo. ko Tyagna Ait AavXyk
hE,ANy4a 2mR pirvtRn ka ko{ tkR,ko{ AOicTy nhI. rhega| [s smy muze ApnI
kivta kI ku7 p.iKtya> yad ho Aa{ hE.-
xu¢var ko josf bktI
somvar ko ims mErI,
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ivilym,pI3r m.glvar ko
xinvar imsej hErI
nO dugoR. me. [s bStI ke
6r-6r !olk bjtI hE|
yh dilto. kI bStI hE|
nklI bO²o. kI wI sun lo,
ApnI krnI me. A.tr |
bat kre. ye bO² 2Mm kI,
6r me. p!_e. ved m.tr|
baba kI tSvIr lgate
[nkI mEya mrtI hE|
yh dilto. kI bStI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8
krte hE. hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI xo8 krte hE.| [ska
0kma5 kar hE [s dex kI VyvS4a| dilt leqk [s VyvS4a ke pirvtRn kI
hI to bat krte hE.| yh ih.dUvadI VyvS4a }pr se deqne me. ijtnI s.udr AOr AC7I
idqa{ detI hE,A.dr se ]tnI hI qoqlI hE| Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI
wI [s VyvS4a me. f>skr rh g0 hE.| [sIil0 ve 0esa hI krte hE.,jEsa gEr-dilt
rajneta krta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
sUrjpal cOhan :dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko Aaps mE. bE#kr v ]n pr Aaps me.
ccaR krke dUr ikya ja skta hE| dr-Asl dilt smaj ke p!_e-ilqe v
bui²jIivyo. ko [n pr phl krnI hogI| km se km p!_e-ilqe dilt to Aaps
me. ro3I-be3I ka s.b.2 S4aipt krna xu= kr de.| jb Aaps me. ro3I-be3I ka s.b.2
S4aipt ho ja0ga,to bhut sI smSya0> Svy. hI sulz ja0>gI| gal bjane ka
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kam bhut ho cuka| Ab smSyaAo. ko sulzane ka smy Aa gya hE| yid yh
kam xI6/ hI nhI. xu= ikya gya to Aane valI pIi!_ya> hme. kwI maf nhI. kre.gI|
DI _0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya
nhI.?
sUrjpal cOhan : injIkr se dilto. ko ko{ law nhI. imlne vala hE|
srkarI nOkiryo. me. Aar9 ke kar hI hm jEse log yha> tk phu>c ske hE.| Ab
srkarI nOkirya> wI nam ma5 kI rh g{ hE.| dilto. ko p!_-ilqkr dUsre 9e5o.
me. wI Aana hoga,twI ve jIvn-s.g/am me. ApnI jgh bna pa0>ge|
DI _0m _v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3.bkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt
saihTykar,smaj AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
sUrjpal cOhan : [s trh kI bate. Krne vale bhu+ipye hE.| Apne hI dex me. rhne
vale dilt smaj se jb ye [tnI 7uAa7Ut,}>c-nIc AOr gEr-brabrI kI nIyt rqe
hu0 hE.,to vsu2Ev ku3uMbkm\ kI bat bemanI hE| [nkI k4nI AOr krnI me. bD_a
warI A.tr hE| [nke µara bna{ VyvS4a bahr se deqne me. ijtnI s.udr AOr AC7I
idqa{ detI hE,vh A.dr se ]tnI hI qoqlI hE AOr sD_a.2 martI hE-
"bahr se k7u AOr tU,wItr se k7u AOr
tera pUra ga>v hE,mE. 6Ure kI #Or|"
[nka smaj AOr 2mR sWyta ke j.g qaye q.wo. pr i3ka hE,jo Ab
kwI wI wrwrakr igr skta hE| ye kb tk praijt [ithas v gPpI saihTy
ka gu gan krte rhe.ge|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
sUrjpal cOhan : sv R smaj AOr ]ske µara bna{ g{ VyvS4a hI dilto. kI
dynIyta ke il0 pUrI trh ijMmedar hE| duinya me. 0esI k{ ¢Ur VyvS4a nhI.
hE,ijsme. 0k VyiKt µara Tyage gye gU-mUt ko dUsra VyiKt Apne isr pr rqkr
!ota ho| [s VyvS4a ne dilto. me. hInta-bo2 wr idya hE| muze ApnI kivta kI
ku7 p.iKtya> ifr yad ho Aa{ hE. -
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[nke Aa.gn gEya,bi7ya
mere Aa.gn sUAr, muigRya>
mera isr [nkI la#I
begarI krne ko ga>v,
mera ga>v,kEsa ga>v|
n khI. #Or n khI. #a>v|
Byah-barat ka kam krate
deekr jU#n bhkate
jb mrta hE ko{ janvr
de-dekr galI ]#vate,
idn-rat gulamI kr-krke
4k gye ibba{ f3e pa>v
mera ga>v,kEsa ga>v|
n khI. #Or,n khI. #a>v|
DI _0m _v kr : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s
sU5 se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
sUrjpal cOhan :"mera wart mhan hE"-vak{ yh dex mhan hE| hmara dex wart
p/k<it ka laD_la be3a hE| yh dex p/ak<itk s.sa2no. se pirpU R hE| "mera wart
mhan" kI phcan pUre ivXv me. mhamanv gOtm bu² se hE| [s dex ke gEr-dilt
ivXvgu= hone ka i!.!ora jo pI3te hE.,vh gOtm bu² kI vjh se pI3te hE.| yh dex
sone kI iciD_ya sm/a3 Axok mhan ke kal me. khlata 4a| Aap Svy deqe. ik
"bO² 2Mm" ivXv ke iktne dexo. ka 2mR hE| ivXv me. ijtnI Ai2k mUitRya>
mhamanv gOtm bu² kI ibktI hE.,xayd hI iksI ih.dU devI-devta kI ibktI ho.|
mE. AwI ku7 hI idn phle nepal se lO3a hU>| khne ko to vh ivXv ka 0kma5
ih.dU dex hE,leikn vha> bO² dxRnIy S4lo. kI wrmar hE| vha> ke magoR. AOr
cOraho. pr mhamanv kI mUitRyo. kI wrmar hE| Aapko )at hI hoga ik 'bhujn
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ihtay bhujn suqay' ka sU5 wI bO² 2Mm se hI g/h ikya huAa hE| yid v R
VyvS4a ka ivnax ho ja0 to ye swI sU5 sc saibt ho skte hE.|
DI _0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik 'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
sUrjpal cOhan : Ab yh bat to [s dex ke ih.duAo. ko hI )at honI caih0 ik
ve kOn se gvR kI bat kr rhe hE.| ye bat ]NhI. se pU7e. to Ai2k ]ict rhega|
ha>,]nse yh AvXy pU7na ik yh 'ihNdU' xBd kha> se Aaya AOr [se iksne
idya? A4aRt\ sbse phle [se iksne pukara AOr [ska A4R Kya hE| [s 'ihNdU'
xBd ka A4R jankr hI ve [s pr gvR krne jEsI bat khe. to Jyada AC7a rhega|
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
sUrjpal cOhan : mE. [ske il0wI ih.duAo. Üsv oR.Ý µara bna{ VyvS4a ko hI
ijMmedar manta hU>| [nke µara bna{ g{ samaijk,Aai4Rk,2aimRk,saihiTyk
swI VyvS4aAo. me. A-VyvS4a fElI hu{ hE| rajnEitk VyvS4a ka to [n sv oR. ne
kcUmr hI inkalkr rq idya hE| ijtne wI bD_e-bD_e 6o3ale [s dex me. hu0
he.,]nme. sv R hI ilPt pa0 g0 hE.| yha> tk ik dex ke Aiht me. guPt sUcna0>
ivdeixyo. ko becnevale swI sv R smaj ke log hE.,iksI 0k wI dilt ka nam
ho to Aap bta0>| jb tk VyvS4a pirvtRn nhI. hoga,yh sb 0esa hI clta
rhega|
ÜqÝ ihNdI-gujratI dilt leqko. ke p5 :
Ó _ Daš _jy p/kax kdRm :
Üs.i9Pt pircy Ý
jNm : × jula{,ÓÛ×Û,g/am-[.d/g!_I.,Dak-Aa@yaiTmk ngr,hapuD_ roD,gaijyabad-
ÔÒÓÚÒÕÜ] _p/ _Ý|
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p/kaixt k<itya>-'7Ppr'Ü]pNyasÝ,'gU.ga nhI. 4a mE.'Ükivta s.g/hÝ,'vtRman dilt
Aa.doln' Üivcar p/b.2Ý,'A.beDkr kI khanI'Ü jIvnIÝ,'hmare vE)aink-sI _vI
_rmn' ÜjIvnIÝ| iviwNn p5-pi5kaAo. me. leq,khainya>,kivta0> 0v. smI9a0>
p/kaixt|
p/4m khanI-'sa.g',pXyNtIÜihNdI 5EmaiskÝv8R ÓÛÛ× |
s.p/it :vai Jy m.5aly,wart srkar me. ]p-indexkÜrajwa8a ke pd pr kayRrtÝ|
sMpkR :ØÕÖ,0m _Aa{ _jI _,DI _DI _0 _FlE3,{S3 Aaf lonI roD, xahdra,
idLlI,ÓÓÒÒÛÕ
DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?_
jy p/kax kdRm : dilt saihTy ke ke.d/Iy iv8y AinvayRt: dilt jIvn kI
smSya0>,p/Xn AOr s.68R hE.| dilt saihTy me. dilt nayk hE.,jbik gEr-dilt
saihTy me. dilt jIvn,p/Xn ya s.68oR. ka hona AinvayR nhI. hE| dUsre,dilt
saihTy me. {Xvr,AaTma,prmaTma,prlok,punjRNm,devI-devta,waGy,wgvan,SvgR-
nrk,wUt-p/et,+i!_yo.,pr.praAo.,A.2ivXvaso. Aaid ka in8e2 hE| v R-VyvS4a
,jaitgtwedwav,ASp<Xyta ka p/itkar dilt saihTy ka p/muq Svr hE| jbik
gEr-dilt saihTy me. 0esa hona AinvayR nhI. hE| gEr-dilt saihTy me. ixLp AOr
sO.dyR pr bl hE,jbik dilt saihTy me. s.p/e8 Iyta pr| gEr-dilt saihTy 0k
kla hE,jbik dilt saihTy 0k Aa.doln|
DI _0m _v _: dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
j _p/ _k _: gt do-tIn dxko. ke dOran dilt saihTy ne ijs trh se Svy. ko
S4aipt ikya hE AOr Apne vEiv@y ke sa4 saihTy ke ke.d/ me. Aaya hE,]se deqte
hu0 kha ja skta hE ik Aane vale smy me. dilt saihTy ka AOr ivkas
hoga| dilt saihTy ka wiv*y ]JJvl hE|
DI _0m _v _ : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
j _p/ _k _ : dilt saihTy ne saihTy kI pr.pravadI soc AOr muhavre ko bdlkr
]se jIv.t bnaya hE AOr smaj kI s.vedna pr co3 kr ]skI jD_ta ko toD_ne
ka kam ikya hE| dilt saihTy kI sbse bD_I ivxe8ta yh hE ik ]sne dilt
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smaj ko smaj me. fEle A.2ivXvas se }pr ]#ne ke sa4-sa4 ANYaay AOr
ATyacar ka p/itkar krne ke il0 p/eirt ikya hE| samaijk bdlav kI idxa me.
yh 0k bD_a p/wavkarI kdm is² hoga|
DI 0m _v _ : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
j _p/ _k _ : dilt saihTy ko kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt ma5
manna dilt saihTy ke ivroi2yo. ka Aa9ep hE| dilt smaj µara sidyo. see
wogI ja rhI ]pe9a AOr Apman kI pID_a ka ic5 dilt saihTy kr rha hE|
[ska samaijk inihta4R jha> 0k Aor dilto. ke p/it [s trh ka wedkarI AOr
AmanvIy Vyvhar krne vale gEr-dilto. kI cetna ko zkzor kr ]Nhe. s.vednxIl
AOr manvIy bnana hE,vhI. dUsrI Aor dilt smaj ko ]pe9a,ANyay AOr Apman
ka p/itkar krne t4a girmapU R samaijk jIvn ke il0 AavXyk sMman manvIy
AI2kar p/aPt krne ke il0 s.68R krne ke il0 p/eirt krna hE| AOr [s ]±eXy me.
yh pUrI trh sfl ho rha hE|
DI _0m _v _ : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo. pr?
j _p. _k _ : dilt AOr gEr-dilt dono. p/kar ke saihTy ka tulnaTmk A@yyn
ikya ja skta hE| 2mR,s.Sk<it,smaj,ix9a,rajnIit AOr Aai4Rk p/Xn 0ese ibNdu
ho skte hE.,ijnke Aa2ar pr dono. kI tulna kI ja sktI hE|
DI _0m _v _ : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale dilto. 0v.
nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
j _p/ _k _ : dilt saihTy ]n swI smajo.,smudayo. AOr smUho. kI va I hE,jo
sidyo. se bahr A4va haix0 pr AOr bejuban rhe hE.| igir-k.draAo. me. rhne vale
AaidvasI AOr smaj ke bIc rhne valI S5I dono. hI smaj kI ]pe9a,Apman
AOr v.cna ke ixkar hE.| dilt saihTy swI ]pei9t AOr v.icto. kI p92rta ka
saihTy hE| [sil0 Svawaivk +p se yh dilto. AOr iS5yo. kI p92rta ka
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saihTy hE| dilt saihTy kI cetna jha> tk ph.uc rhI hE,dono. [sse lawaiNvt
ho rhe hE.|
DI _0m _v _ : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg man rhe
hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
j _p/ _k _ 'AnusUict jait','jnjait'AOr 'dilt AaidvasI'xBdyuGm bhut phle se
0k hI smaj ke il0 p/yuKt hota rha hE| smaj ke ANy Aa.dolno. kI trh
dilt saihTy ke Aa.doln me. wI dilt AaidvasI dono. ko 0k smaj mankr
]nkI yatna AOr s.68RpU R jIvn ka ic5 ikya jata rha hE| saihTy me.
dilt,AaidvasI ka jo wed idqa{ deta hE,vh 0k to ku7 gEr-dilt
saihTykaro. ka 7oD_a gya ixgUfa AOr ]nkI kU3nIit ka pir am hE,ijNho.ne
dilt saihTy ke Aa.doln ko toD_ne ke il0 ku7 AaidvasI saihTykaro. ko
ApnI p<4k phcan bnane ke il0 ]ksaya hE| ku7 gEr-dilt s.padko. ne ApnI
pi5kaAo. ke 'AaidvasI ivxe8a.k' p/kaixt kr [s Algav ko hva dene kI
koixx kI hE| muze nhI. lgta ik yh Algav S4ayI A4va dI6Rkailk hE|
g.wIrta se kam kr rhe dilt AaidvasI saihTyakr wI [se [sI +p me. deq rhe
hE.| b/aHm vad ke brabr ixkar rhe [n dono. smudayo. ko sa4 imlkr saihTy ke
ma@ym se b/aHm vad ka sxKt ivro2 krna hI hoga|
DI _0m _v _ : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate hE.
ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.2wR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
j _p/ _k _ : hm wI man lete hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota,leikn sval
]#ane valo. se pU7a ja skta hE ik saihTy Kya hota hE? Kya smaj ke 0k
vgR ko 6< a,Apman,]pe9a,ANyay,Awav AOr ]TpID_n ka ixkar bnakr rqne t4a
]nko ASp<Xy mankr ]ske sa4 janvro .se gya-bIta Vyvhar krke samaijk
jIvn se bih*k<t bnaye rqne valI VyvS4a AOr [ske Aa2aro. ka ivro2 nhI.
krne AOr smaj kI [s kuiTst maniskta ka po8 krne vale saihTy ko Kya
kha jana caih0? Kya yhI saihTy ka gu ,ivxe8ta ya 2mR hota hE? yid AXvet
AOr nIg/o logo. µara rict saihTy AXvet ya nIg/o saihTy ho skta hE,to dilt
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µara rict saihTy dilt saihTy Kyo. nhI. ho skta? AXvet AOr nIg/o saihTy
ko Aap SvIkar kre.ge AOr ]skI p92rta me. qD_e hokr bD_e gvR se Svy. ko
p/gitxIl is² kre.ge AOr krva0>ge,leikn Apne dex ke A.dr [sI trh ke dilt
saihTy ko SvIkar nhI. kre.ge,]ska ivro2 kre.ge| yh doglI maniskta hE AOr
in.dnIy hE| yh vhI maniskta hE jo 0k Aor 'vsu2Ev ku3.bkm\'ko Apne jIvn
ka AadxR AOr is²a.t mantI hE AOr dUsrI Aor v oR. AOr jaityo.,]p-jaityo. me.
ivwaijt hE.| 0ese log wTsRna ke Ai2karI hE.,jo dilt ke dln AOr dmn pr
cuPpI sa2e rhte hE. AOr [s dln AOr dmn ke p/itkar me. dilto. µara rict
saihTy ko nkarte AOr [ska ivro2 krte hE.|
DI _0m _v _ : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke iqlaf
ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
jy p/ _k _ : mE. yh pU7na cahta hU> ik smaj ke A.dr jaitwed iksne pEda ikya
hE? Kya yh dilto. ne pEda ikya hE? jaitwed kI jD_e. v R-VyvS4a ya b/aHm vad
me. hE.| b/aHm o. ne hI hmexa-hmexa ke il0 Apna samaijk vcRSv bnaye rqne ke
il0 [s VyvS4a ko jNm idya hE| dilt log [s VyvS4a pr sval n
kre.,[sil0 ]nke A.dr wI jaitwed pEda ikya gya| dilt Aaj tk b/aHm vad
kI [sI saijx ke ixkar hE.| b/aHm vad kI yh samaijk corI hE| [s corI
AOr cor kI phcan dilto. ne kI AOr inwRy hokr [skI !o.!I pI3I hE| sbse
phle kbIr ne 'baMhn hI ne kINhI. corI' khkr [s corI ka pdaRfax ikya AOr
'jo tU baMhn baMhnI jaya,Aan ba3 kahe nih. Aaya' khkr [s jait VyvS4a
pr kD_a p/har ikya| Aaj dilt saihTy v RVyvS4a AOr jaitwed pr tIv/ p/har
kr b/aHm vad ko benkab kr ]ske ikle ko @vSt kr rha hE| dilt saihTy
samaijk Asmanta ko wartIy smaj kI 0k bD_I bura{ AOr smaj AOr ra*
kI p/git me. bhut bD_e Avro2 ke +p me. deqta hE| [sil0 Asmanta ke swI
iklo. AOr Aa2aro. pr p/har kr ]Nhe. @vSt krna dilt saihTy ka l(y hE| twI
smtamUlk smaj ka inmaR ho skega AOr wart shI mayne m.e 0k ra* bn
skega| jaitwed,Asmanta ka sbse bD_a Aa2ar hE,[sil0 dilt saihTy
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jaitwed ke iv=² svaRi2k muqr hE| b/aH/ vadI maniskta ke log dilt saihTy
ke [s tevr se itlimlaye hu0 hE. AOr ve [s p/kar ke sval ]#akr dilt
saihTykar ka @yan w3kane kI koixx kr rhe hE.| merI ]nko slah hE ik ve
dilt saihTy ko @yan se p!_e.,tb ]nko pta clega ik dilt saihTy bahr AOr
A.dr jha> pr wI jaitwed hE,]ska sman +p se ivro2 kr rha hE| smaj se
jaitwed smaPt ho jane pr dilto. ke A.dr se jaitwed Svt: smaPt ho ja0ga|
DI _0m _v _ : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va p!_e-ilqe
dilto. Ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI muiKt ka
ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
jy p/ _k _ : dilto. pr yh Aarop wI b/aHm vaidyo. µara hI lgaya ja rha hE|
jo wI dilt ix9a AOr Aai4Rk +p se 4oD_a sud<!_ hone lgta hE,b/aHm vadI log
hI ]se b/aHm khna xu= kr dete hE.,Kyo.ik yh ]nke ikle me. se.2 hE| [n
s.e2maro. pr [s trh ke hmle kr ]nko htoTsaiht krna b/aHm vadI nIit ka
ihSsa hE| Kya dilto. ko ixi9t nhI. hona caih0? Kya ]Nhe. Aai4Rk +p se
AaTminwRr AOr sud<!_ nhI. hona caih0? Kya dilto. ko smaj µara g.de,6<i t
AOr Apmanjnk smze jane vale kayoR. ko 7oD_kr sMmanjnk kayR nhI. krne
caih0? Kya dilto. ko AC7e mkano. me. AOr saf-su4re kpD_e phnkr nhI. rhna
caih0? yid [n sb p/Xno. ka jvab nhI. hE to to iniXct +p se 0esa krne
vale dilt b/aHm khe ja skte hE.,Kyo.ik wartIy smaj VyvS4a me.
b/aHm vaidyo. ko hI ye suv2a0> AOr Ai2kar rhe hE.| ik.tu [n p/Xno. ka jvab
'ha>' hE to 0esa krne vale dilt mnu*y hE.,Kyo.ik mnu*y hone ke nate ]nko wI
[s p/kar ka jIvn jIne ka Ai2kar hE AOr sidyo. se v.ict rhne ke bad Ab ve
[n Ai2karo. ka ]pyog kr rh rhe hE.| yid ko{ dilt iksI wI dilt
,pIiD_t,v.ict,xoi8t,]pei9t ke sa4 manvIy Vyvhar nhI. krta,to yh ]nke
A.dr 0k b/aHm vadI l9 hE| b/aHm vad 0k maniskta hE,jo }>c-nIc,wedwav
AOr 7uAa7Ut me. ivXvas rqtI hE t4a smaj me. ApnI &e*#ta,xuicta AOr vcRSv
bnaye rqne kI p92r hE| jha> pr wI yh maniskta hogI,VyiKt ]ske Anusar
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Vyvhar krega| dilto. me. wI k{ log [s p/kar kI maniskta se g/St ho skte
hE.| smaj me. jEse-jEse smanta AOr lokta.i5k cetna ka ivkas hoga vEse-vEse
b/aHm vad kmjor hoga AOr jo dilt [sse g/St hE.,,ve wI [s manisk Vyai2
se muKt ho ja0>ge|
DI _0m _v _-Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid hE to
Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
jy _p/ _k _-2mR ko{ AinvayRta nhI. hE| yid VyiKt me. cetna,ivXvas AOr xiKt
hE to vh 2mR ke Aal.b ke ibna wI jI skta hE| smaj me. 2mR ka [tna p/car-
p/sar hE ik VyiKt 2mR ke ibna jIne kI kLpna nhI. kr pata hE| yid 2mR kI
AavXykta ho hI to VyiKt iniXct +p se 2mR ko Apnana cahega,ijsme. ]ske
il0 sMmanjnk jgh ho| ih.dU 2mR kI VyvS4a Asmanta AOr wedwav pr i3kI
hE| 0k Aor yh pUja AOr p/sad ka,dUsrI Aor yh &e*#ta AOr xuicta ka 2mR
hE| dUsre xBdo. me. [se 7uAa7Ut ka 2mR wI kh skte hE.| ih.dU 2mR me. dilto. ke
il0 ASp<Xyta AOr hInta ya nIcta ke Alava AOr ku7 nhI. hE| tb dilt ih.dU
2mR ka ihSsa bnkr Kyo. rhe.? dilto. ko 2mR pirvtRn krna hI caih0|
samaijk sMman AOr manvIy girma ke il0 yh inta.t AavXyk hE| cU>ik bO²
2mR wart me. AiStTvman swI 2moR. me. svaRi2k p/gitxIl AOr manvtavadI hE|
yh pU Rtya smanta pr Aa2airt 2mR hE| bO² 2mR ke [NhI. gu o. ke kar baba
sahb Dašš _A.beDkr ne ih.dU 2mR ko Tyagkr bO² 2mR kI dI9a lI 4I| bO² 2mR
hI dilto. ke il0 svaRi2k ]pyuKt hE|
DI _0m _v _ : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga? ha>,to kEse AOr
na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
jy _p/ _k _-2mR pirvtRn se rato.-rat dilto ke 6r me. s.pNnta nhI. Aa ja0gI,n
hI ]nkI smSt smSyaAo. ka tur.t sma2an ho ja0ga| leikn 2maR.tr krte hI
dilto. ko manvIy girma ka 0hsas hona xu= ho ja0ga| jb ve deqe.ge ik bO²
ivharo. me. t4a ANy 2aimRk S4lo.,Aayojno. me. ]nke sa4 ko{ wedwav nhI. hota
hE AOr ]nko vha> Apnapn imlta hE to [sse ]nke A.dr yh wavna pEda hogI
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ik ve iksI se hIn nhI. hE.| [s hIntabo2 se muiKt ]nme. Svaiwman AOr sMman
cetna ka s.car kregI| iksI devta,{Xvr ya Avtar ke share ve nhI. bE#e rhe.ge
ik vh Aakr ]nka ]²ar krega,[ske ivprIt 'Apna dIpk Aap bno' kI cetna
ke Aalok me. ivXvas ke sa4 s.68R krte hu0 ve jIvn ke p/Tyek 9e5 me. inr.tr
Aage b!_e.ge|
DI _0m _v _-Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte hE
hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
jy _p/ _kdRm : rajneta AOr Ai2karI vgR ka Apna 0k cir5 hota hE| jo [n
vgoR. me. xaiml hota hE vh wI ]sI cir5 ka ho jata hE| dilt rajneta AOr
Ai2karI wI [ske Apvad nhI. hE.| leikn swI rajneta AOr Ai2karI dilto.
ka xo8 krte hE.-yh khna ]ict nhI. hE| [ska Aar9 se ku7 lena-dena
nhI. hE| [s p/s.g ko Aar9 ke sa4 joD_na dilto. ke cir5-hnn jEsa hE|
k{ dilt Ai2karI samaijk Aa.doln me. net<TvkarI wUimka inwa rhe hE.| Aneko.
Ai2karI Aa.doln ko Alg-Alg trh se Apna shyog de rhe hE.| maNyvr
ka.xIram jI µara 'bamsef' ke ma@ym se claya gya samaijk cetna ka
Aa.doln dilt Ai2kairyo. ke bl pr hI cla 4a| [sI samaijk Aa.doln se
Aaj kI dilt rajnIit ko 0k xKl imlI hE| ka.xIram jI ne iks dilt ka
xo8 ikya? Kya [s s.b.2 me. ko{ 0k wI ]dahr idya ja skta hE? swI
rajneta AOr Ai2kairyo. ke s.b.2 me. [s trh kI i3Pp I krna bckanI soc ka
sUck hE|
DI _0m _v _ -dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
jy _p/ _kdRm-dilto. ke bIc ko{ bD_a A.tivRro2 nhI. hE| ku7 ib.duAo. pr dilt
leqko.,ivµano. ke bIc Ashmitya> hE.| ye Ashmitya> dilt ic.tn kI pirpKvta
AOr dilt smaj ke lokta.i5k hone ka p/ma hE| [Nhe. ANy4a nhI. ilya jana
caih0| Ashmityo. se shmityo. kI Aor b!_a ja skta hE| mera ivXvas hE ik
jEse-jEse Ashmit ke [n ib.duAo. pr ivcar-ivmxR Aage b!_ega,A.tivRro2o. se ]brte
hu0 dilt ic.tn shmit kI rah pkD_ lega AOr,ifr 4oD_I-bhut idKkte. to hr
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jgh hotI hI hE.| Ait mhTvaka.9I AOr ApirpKv smz ke log kwI-kwI
Anjane me. ya jan-bUzkr ivvadaSpd bate. kh dete hE.,ya ixgUfa 7oD_ dete hE. AOr
dilt saihTy ivro2I log dilt ivro2I mUl mu±±o. se dilt leqko. ko w3kane
ke il0 [n bato. ko hva de dete hE.|
DI _0m _v _ : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya nhI.?
jy _p/ _k _ : injIkr se dilto. ko ko{ law imlne vala nhI. hE| injIkr
kI VyvS4a me. srkar ka iny.5 AOr ijMmedarI qTm ho jatI hE| injI 9e5 me.
dilto. ke il0 Aar9 nhI. hE AOr jaitwed ke clte dilto. ko AC7I nOkirya.
nhI. iml patI hE.| sUcna p/o OigkI jEse 9e5o. me. AvXy bI _3ek ã 0m _bI _0
_iDg/I2arI ku7 dilto. ko #Ik-#ak nOkrI iml jatI hE,leikn 0ese logo. kI
s.Qya bhut km hE| Ai2ka.x dilt bhut km vetn pr injI k.pinyo. me. nOkrI
krne ko ivvx hE.| dilt smaj pr injIkr ka sbse p/itkUl p/wav to yh
pD_a hE ik ix9a ka wI injIkr ho gya hE| Aaj dex me. Ai2ka.x ix9a
s.S4an injI 9e5 me. hE.,ijnkI }>cI fIs dena dilto. ke bUte ke bahr hE| 0ese me.
bhut se dilt yuva sMmanjnk rojgar kI ]pyuKt ix9a se v.ict rh jate hE.|
DI _0m _v _:"vsu2Ev ku3u.bkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt saihTykar,smaj AOr
2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> AOr A.tivRro2 Kyo. hE.?
jy _p/ _k _- 0esa [sil0 hE,Kyo.ik wartIy ih.dU smaj 0k cir5hIn smaj hE|
]sme. Nyay,nEitkta,p/em,sih* uta,]darta,w/at<Tv jEsI ko{ bat nhI. hE| dilt ke
p/it to vh hd djeR tk ih.sk,¢Ur AOr AmanvIy hE| "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" jEsI
ijtnI AC7I AOr bD_I-bD_I bate. krta hE,]ske mans me. ]tnI jaitgt
wedwav,}>cnIc AOr 7uAa7Ut kI sD_a.2 AOr kIcD_ wrI hu{ hE| dilt mnu*y nhI.
hE.,ve ku%e,ibLlI AOr dUsre pxu-pi9yo. se wI gye-gujre hE.,ihNduAo. ka 2mR ]nko
yh isqata hE| ]nkI s.Sk<it ANyay,Asmanta,ASp<Xyta AOr Asih* uta kI
s.Sk<it hE| Apne 2mR AOr s.Sk<it ke Anusar hI ve Aacr krte hE.| gEr-dilt
saihTykaro. kI k4nI AOr krnI me. jbdRXt A.tr hE| ve dilto. ke p/it shanuwUit
to idqate hE.,leikn n to dilto. ke sa4 juLm AOr JyadtI krne vale Apne
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sjatIy wa{-bhno. kI wTsRna krte hE.,n ]nke iv=² cla0 jane vale dilt
Aa.dolno. me. wagIdar bnte hE. AOr n hI Asmanta ke jnk Apne 2mRg/.4o. ka
p/itkar AOr ivd/oh krte hE.| ]nka Aacr AOr Vyvhar ]nke k4n AOr leqn ka
ivro2awasI hE| [sil0 ve jo ku7 khte ya ilqte hE.,]sme. ivXvsnIyta ka
Awav hE|
DI _0m _v _ : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R smaj
ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
jy _p/ _k _ : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 muQy +p se smaj-VyvS4a ijMmedar
hE| savRjink AOr injI p/Tyek 9e5 me. ijMmedar pdo. pr Ai2ka.xt: sv R ih.dU
AasIn hE.| dilto. ke p/it dUi8t maniskta rqne ke kar ve dilto. ke ]T4an
AOr ivkas ke p/it p/ay: ]dasIn rhte hE.| [sI kar se srkarI nOkiryo. me.
dilto. ke Aar9 ka ko3a Aaj tk pUra nhI. ikya ja ska hE,jbik laqo.-
kroD_o. suixi9t dilt yuva berojgar 6Um rhe hE.| gEr-dilto. kI [sI maniskta
ke clte dilto. ko imlne vale sare s.vE2aink Ai2kar AOr suiv2a0> wI ]nko
nhI. iml patI hE.| dilto. ka 0k vgR qud wI ApnI dynIyta ke il0 ijMmedar
hE-[sse wI [.kar nhI. ikya ja skta| bhut se dilt ijtna kmate hE.,]ska
0k bD_a ihSsa xrab sevn Aaid pr qcR kr dete hE.| [sse bCco. kI ix9a
siht pirvar kI AavXykta0> pUrI nhI. hotI. AOr dynIyta bnI rhtI hE|
DI _0m _v _ : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s sU5
se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
jy _p/ _k _ :"mera wart mhan"-]n logo. ka nra hE,wart ijnka hE| dilto. ko
kwI yh Ahsas nhI. hota ik wart ]nka wI hE| yid wart dilto. ka wI
hota to Apne hI dex me. ve ]pei9t,Apmaint AOr ASp<Xy nhI. hote| ijs dex me.
ve kevl jNm ke kar AmanvIy xo8 ,]TpID_n AOr bbRrta ke ixkar rhe hE.,]s
dex ko ve kEse Apna khe. AOr kEse ]se mhan khe.? [ithas gvah hE ik hjaro.
Saal kI samaijk pr.pra me. wart me. dilto. ko kwI wI Apnapn nhI. imla hE|
ve sdEv beganepn ke ixkar rhe hE.| yh beganapn ]nko sdEv salta rha hE| wart
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ko mhan khne se phle yh dilto. ko Apna lgna caih0| kevl ÔÒ-ÕÒ% logo.
kI Ai4Rk Aay ke bl pr jI _DI _pI _b!_ne se ya bD_e-bD_e ] og AOr [marte. qD_I
ho jane ma5 se wart ko mhan nhI. kha ja skta| iksI dex kI ]Nnit AOr
ivkas Aai4Rk p/git ke sa4-sa4 [s bat pr wI inwRr krtI hE ik ]s dex
ka iktna samaijk-sa.Sk<itk ivkas huAa hE| ijs dex me. smaj ka 0k vgR
Aaj wI Asmanta AOr ASp<Xyta ka ixkar ho,ijs dex me. yoGyta kI bjay
jait VyiKt ke samaijk sMman ka Aa2ar ho,ijs dex me. kroD_o. logo. ko hr
roj wr pe3 qana ]plB2 n ho,ijs dex me. iksI srkarI bE.k me. dilt mjdUro.
ko pEse ka len-den krne ke il0 sPtah me. kevl 0k hI idn in2aRirt ho AOr
]s inyt idn ko 7oD_kr ANy kayR-idvso. me.,kevl g.de kpD_e phne hone ke
kar bE.k ke A.dr p/vex kI mnahI ho AOr ijs dex me. 0k pxu ka mULy mnu*y
ke mULy se Ai2k ho ]s dex ko kEse,iks nEitkta se mhan kha ja skta
hE? wart ]NhI. ke il0 mhan hE,jo samaijk +p se sMmaint,Aai4Rk +p se
sm<² AOr rajnIitk +p se vcRSvxalI hE.| jo smSt suq AOr 0eXvyR wog rhe
hE.| dilto. ke il0 wart mhan nhI. hE|
DI _0m _v _ : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
jy _p/ _kdRm-ye rajneta ]Cc v IRy ih.dU hE. AOr ivXv ih.dU pir8d ya ra* Iy
Svy.sevk s.6 ke sdSy ya ]nkI ivcar2ara se juD_e hE.,ihNdU ra vad ijnka nara
hE AOr jo wart ko ih.dU ra* bnana cahte hE.| ]nko Apne ih.dU hone ka gvR ho
skta hE,Kyo.ik ve ih.dU smaj-VyvS4a me. ]Cc paydan pr ivrajman hE. AOr
jNmna hI samaijk sMman ke Ai2karI hE.| dilto. ke il0 ih.dU 2mR me. Kya hE?
samaijk Apman,Aai4Rk daird/\y AOr rajnIitk dasta,[nke isvay ih.dU 2mR ne
Kya idya hE? ifr kEse dilto. ko ih.dU hone pr gvR ho skta hE? dilto. ke il0
ih.dU hona gvR kI nhI.,xmR kI bat hE| yid ih.dUvadI netaAo. me. wI 4oD_I-sI wI
manvIyta hE,to ih.dU hona ]nke il0 wI xmR kI hI bat hogI|
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DI _0m _v _ : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
jy _p/ _k _-samaijk,Aai4Rk,rajnIitk,2aimRk p/Tyek 9e5 me. sv oR>. ka vcRSv hE|
Apne [s vcRSv ke bl pr ve jo cahe. kr skte hE. AOr kr rhe hE.| rajnIit me.
wI mnI,mIiDya AOr msl kI takt ka bolbala hE AOr khne kI AavXykta
nhI. hE ik [n sb pr sv oR. ka kBja hE| Apne glt k<Tyo. ko wI ve shI
p/cairt kr skte hE. AOr krte hE.| ip7le ku7 dxko. ke dOran dex me. ijs bD_e
Str pr 2mR AOr pU>jI ka g#b.2n huAa hE,]sne smSt s.vE2aink s.S4aAo. ko
bOna A4va ]nke ha4 kI k#putlI bna idya hE| khne ke il0 hmare dex me.
lokt.5 hE,leikn y4a4R me. yh sv R ke.id/t jaitt.5 hE,ijsme. svR5 sv oR. ka
vcRSv hE|
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ivipn ibharI Üs.i9Pt pircyÝ
jNm : Ô jnvrI,ÓÛØ×
S4an : pcmhla,iqjrsray,gya ÜibharÝ|
ix9a : bI _0 _AansR ÜrajnIit iv)anÝ p3na ivXviv aly,p3na,ibhar|
sMp/it : pUvR m@y rel,jpla me. ilipk pd pr kayRrt|
s<jn : sva do sO se Ai2k khainya> 'h.s','k4adex'','k4a¢m','vtRman
saihTy','Ape9a','dilt 3UDe','hmdilt','yu²rt Aam AadmI','s.cetna','AravlI
]2\6o8','tIsra p9','Aa2arixla','vsu2a','snd','p/git AakLp',Aaid p5-
pi5kaAo. me. p/kaixt|
-'Apna mkan','punvaRs','Aa2e pr A.t','rajmagR pr golIka.D' 0v. 'cIl' khanI-
s.g/h 0v. 0k 'SvPndxIR kI mOt' ]pNyas p/kaixt|
-'hmlavr' v '2n 2rtI' ]pNyas 0v. 'Aage raSta b.d hE' khanI -s.g/h xI6/
p/kaXy|
-[ske AitirKt '0k AOr Aasman','khanI j.Kxn','dilt khanIkaro. kI phlI
khanI','haix0 se bahr','narI mn kI khainya>',dUsrI duinya ka y4a4R','zarq.D
kI &e*# khainya>',khanI s.g/h me. khainya> 0v. 'kivta nhI. ku=9e5','AnuwUit se
AiwVyiKt tk','kivta s.wv','Aai9itj','s.wavana0> hE. xe8 bhut', 'lhr'e.,
's.kLp','xam AOr shr' kivta s.g/h me. kivta0>, 'srkar bhadur kI svarI','Aa2I
hkIkt' Vy.Gy s.g/h me. Vy.Gy,'kl ka Aaj','zarq.D me. ih.dI l6u k4a0>',l6uk4a
s.g/h me. l6u k4a0> s.g/hIt 0v. p/kaixt|
-'AapkI jat 7o3I hE' 0v. 'itlSm' khanI s.g/h v '[s Aa8a!_ me.' 0v. 'Apne wI'
]pNyas,'jltI rhe mxal' kivta s.g/h 0v. 'nI.v kI phlI {.3' l6uk4a s.g/h
p/kaxn hetu ivcara2In|
s.padn : 'inmaR ' namk pi5ka ke 0k A.k ka s.padn|
sMpkR :ØÓ bI _,relve kalonI,jpla,plamU Üzarq.DÝ ipn-ÚÔÔÓÓØ
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DI _0m _v kr- gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
ivipn ibharI- gEr-diLt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUlwUt A.tr yhI kha
ja skta hE ik dilt saihTy dilto. µara ilqa ja rha hE AOr gEr-dilt
saihTy sv oR. µara| dilto. ne Apne saihTy me. xo8 ,dmn,Apman-pID_a ko
Apna iv8y bnaya AOr gEr-dilt saihTykaro. ne Apne AtIt,s.Sk<it AOr s.Skar
ko| yhI. se p/ar.w huAa dilt AOr gEr-dilt saihTy ka s<jn| jo dilt
hE.,]nke saihTy me. AOr jo gEr-dilt hE.,]nke saihTy me. Sp*3 A.tr deqa ja
skta hE| cU>ik dilt saihTy me. ivxal s.wavna0> hE.,[sil0 ik yha> pr pCcasI
fI sdI dilt hE. AOr p.d/h fIsdI gEr-dilt A4aRt sv R| Aaj gEr-dilt
saihTy bhus.Qyk dilto. ke Aage Ap/as.igk ho cuka hE,flSv+p gEr-dilt ka
9e5 iskuD_ta ja rha hE| yanI ik sv R saihTy dilto. ke samne beA4R is² ho
rha hE,Kyo.ik gEr-dilt saihTy kI s.wavna0> 9I pD_tI ja rhI hE. [sil0 ve
ApnI pE# jmane ke il0 kuiTstta kr rhe hE.| yh mana ja skta hE ik dilto.
ne jo Apman AOr pID_a she hE.,]se gEr-dilto. ne nhI. sha hE| gEr-dilt
saihTykar iktna wI dilto. ke bare me. ilqe.ge,jo sCca{ ]wrkr 0k dilt
saihTykar µara rict saihTy me. Aa sktI hE,]tna gEr-dilto. ke saihTy me.
nhI. Aa sktI| mE. yh kh skta hU> ik dilt saihTy Anuwv-jint hE AOr gEr-
dilto. dara rict saihTy pU Rt: kaLpink hE| hme gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt
saihTy ke pcD_e me. pD_ne kI AavXykta nhI. hE| yid A.t:s.b.2I xor ]#aya ja
rha hE to [sme. gEr-dilto. kI m.xa khI. n khI. ivvad qD_a krne kI hE AOr
[skI AaD_ me. ApnI pE# jmane kI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
iv _ibharI-dilt saihTy dilto. kI Vy4a hE| dilt bhus.Qy hE.| dilt saihTy me.
Apman,]TpID_n,7uAa7Ut AOr ]nke sa4 6i3t 63naAo. ke bare me. ilqa ja rha
hE,pr.tu bat [tne pr hI smaPt nhI. hotI| jEse-jEse dilt sbl hote ja rhe
hE.,dilto. ke p/it sv oR. ka Vyvhar wI bdlta ja rha hE,Kyo.ik dilt Ab
Aa¢ox wI VyKt krne lge hE.| khI.-khI. to dilt lai#ya> wI wa>jne lge hE.,
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]nke iqlaf| tb sv oR. ne wI ApnI soc bdlI hE| Ab ve Apman nhI.
krte,7Ut7at nhI. krte,biLk Ab ve sU(m hokr,AOjar bdlkr dilto. ka
nuksan phu>ca rhe hE.| msln ibhar me. deq skte hE.,dilto. ko do ihSse me. ba>3
idya gya _ __ _ _dilt AOr mhadilt,yain ik dilt jo 0k m.c pr Aane lge
4e,2Ire-2Ire dilt mhadilt me. ba>3kr ]nm.e fU3 Dalne kI koixx kI g{| muze
to lgta hE ik [s krtUt me. ve sfl hote hu0 lg rhe hE.| tb dilt saihTy
ka iv8y yh hoga ik sv R imjaijyo. µara dilto. ke bIc kEse drar pEda kI ja
rhI hE AOr ]Nhe. kmjor ikya ja rha hE| [s pr mE.ne 0k khanI wI ilqI hE-
'drar' namkI,jo 'dilt 3UDe' ke nv.br,ÓÒ ke A.k me. p/kaixt hu{ hE|
mE. to khta hU> ik dilt saihTy ka wiv*y AsIm hE| jb tk dilto.
ke sa4 sman Vyvhar nhI. ikya ja0ga tb tk dilt saihTy ka s<jn hota
rhega| vEse ih.dI saihTy ko k{ kalo. me. ivwKt ikya gya hE _ _ _ vIrga4a
kal, __ _ wiKtkal _ _rIitkal _ _ _ Aa2uink kal| ye swI kal 0k iniXct
Avi2 me. A3ke pD_e hu0 hE.| dilt saihTy wI 0k kalavi2 me. A>3 ja0ga,pr.tu
[ska kal sbse bD_a AOr ivSt<t hoga|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
iv _ibharI-gEr-dilt saihTykar 6braye hu0 Kyo. hE.? jaihr hE ik dilt saihTy
ka p/wav smaj pr pD_ rha hE| dilt saihTy ke A.tgRt ku7 0esI guiT4ya> wI
samne Aa rhI hE.,ijNhe. hm nhI. smzte 4e,Ab saihTy kI mafRt smz pa rhe hE.
AOr jo [sse juD_e hu0 hE.,scet ho rhe hE.| yid dilt scet hoga to [ska p/wav
pUre smaj pr pD_ega AOr jha> tk mE. smzta hU>,pD_ wI rha hE| s.pNn dilt yid
b/aHm vad kI cpe3 me. Aa rhe hE. to 0ese wI hE. jo b/aHm vad ko nkar rhe hE.|
Aaiqr 0esa ikn kar o. se s.wv ho rha hE?
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
iv _ibharI- mE. smzta hU> [s p/Xn ka ]%r }pr ke p/Xno. me. de cuka hU>| Alg se
[s pr ku7 khne kI AavXykta nhI. hE|
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DI _0m _v kr : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
iv _ibharI-dilt AOr gEr-dilt saihTy pr tulnaTmk A@yyn kI AavXykta
kOn mhsUs rha hE?- p/Xn yh wI hE| merI smz se dono. ke bIc ko{ tulna
nhI. ho sktI hE| dilt saihTy Vy4a ka saihTy hE AOr gEr-dilt saihTy
sO.dyR ka| gEr-dilt saihTy sO.dyR se lbrej hE AOr dilt saihTy 0k sc se|
kha> 0k sc AOr kha> 0k sO.dyR _ _ _sc ka wI sO.dyR ho skta hE?
Apman,]TpID_n,7ut7at ka wI sO.dyR ho skta hE? pr.tu kLpna ka sO.dyR ho
skta hE| dilt AOr gEr-dilt saihTy do 2/uv pr hE.| mE. nhI. smzta ik dono.
ke bIc ko{ tulna kI ja0|
p/Xn-Ø DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne
vale dilto. 0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
iv _ibharI : dilt saihTy s<jn me. AwI bhut ku7 hona hE,dilto. kI
Aix9a,A)anta pUrI tOr pr dUr nhI. ho pa{ hE| dilto. ko Aage b!_ne ke il0
AwI bhut s.68R krna hE| AwI wI ]Nhe. Av=² ikya ja rha hE| yid dilto. kI
Aix9a,A)anta pUre tOr pr dUr ho.gI to inXcy hI igir-k.draAo. AOr ]pTykaAo.
me. rhne vale dilto.,nairyo. ko law hoga| mE. smzta hU> AwI dilt saihTy 0k
9e5 tk hI sIimt hE| AavXykta hE ]ske ivStar kI AOr Aane vale smy me.
[ska 0k ivSt<t 9e5 hoga-0esa mera ivXvas hE|
DI _0m _v kr- AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg
man rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
iv ibharI _ : dilt saihTy AOr AaidvasI saihTy kI piriS4itya> ku7 ib.duAo.
pr Asman hote hu0 wI 0k jEsa hI mE. kh skta hU>| Aai4Rk xo8 ]nka wI
huAa hE AOr dilto. ka wI huAa hE| ]TpID_n ke ixkar ve wI hu0 hE. AOr dilt
wI,leikn AaidvasI smaj 7Ut7at se Alg rha hE| jait Aa2<t ]TpID_n se
]nka vaSta nhI. pD_a| pr.tu Ab jEsa ik mera Anuwv hE,jb ve muQy 2ara me. Aa
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rhe hE.,tb ]nke sa4 wI dilto. jEsa hI Vyvhar ikya ja rha hE| yid dilt
saihTy ke sa4 AaidvasI saihTy juD_ta hE to yh AC7I bat hogI|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate
hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.dwR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
iv _ibharI _ye sc hE ik saihTy dilt nhI. hota,tb sval ]#ta hE ik
vIrga4akal me. vIr rs ka saihTy rca gya tb ]se isfR saihTy hI kha
jata| vIr rs ka saihTy nhI. kha jana caih0 4a| ]sI p/kar wiKtkal me.
wiKt saihTy kha gya,rItkal me. rIit saihTy kha gya,7ayavadI saihTy kha
gya,tb dilt saihTy pr Kyo. ku7 log p/Xn qD_a kr rhe hE.? ye smz ke bahr
kI bat hE| ku7 log dilt saihTy ko A.beDkrvadI saihTy khna ps.d krte
hE.| cil0,ye wI man ilya ja0| yid dilt ivxe8 se iksI ko Apman mhsUs
ho rha ho,to dilt saihTykaro. ko iml-bE#kr Aaps me. 0k nam pr ivmxR
krna caih0| A.beDkr saihTy khna wI Ap/as.igk nhI. hoga| dilto. µara rce
g0 saihTy ka ko{ ivxe8 to hona hI caih0| vEse ku7 dilt jo s.pNn ho g0
hE.,ve ApnI jat 7upaye cl rhe hE.,khI. yhI rog ku7 dilt saihTykaro. me. to nhI.
pnp rha hE| ya ifr ]Nhe. ko{ bhka rha hE| [tna khU.ga ik dilt saihTy se
k{ k{ gEr-dilt saihTy ke 2ur.2ro. ko 6brah3 hone lgI hE AOr ]nka 8#y.5 hE
-dilto. ke sa4-sa4 ]nke saihTy ko wI ths-nhs krna|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke
iqlaf ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
iv _ibharI _ye ku7 duqd iS4it hE,pr.tu [se smzne kI AavXykta hE| Aaiqr
dilto. me. jaitwed hE to Kyo. hE? muze 0esa lgta hE,ye kam ho nhI. pa rha hE|
yid ho wI rha hE to ibLkul 2ImI git se| dilto. me. Aix9a hE,A)anta
hE,in2Rnta hE,sjgta kI kmI hE,rajnIitk cetna kI kmI hE| ijs idn dilto.
me. rajnIitk cetna jag/t ho ja0gI,]nkI A)anta,Aix9a,in2Rnta dUr ho
ja0gI,]s idn xayd [s p/Xn se jUzna nhI. pD_ega| sidyo. se jo dbe -kucle
hE.,ijNhe. ix9a se v.ict rqa gya,A9r-)an hone nhI. idya gya,[tne km smy
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me. s.wavnaAo. pr #apa kEse lgaya ja skta hE? dilto. kI A)anta dUr n
ho.,Aix9a Jyo. kI Tyo. bnI rhe,rajnIitk cetna n Aa0,[sil0 to dilto. ko
hjaro. Jaaityo. me. ba>3a gya| dilto. me. jaitwed mOjUd nhI. hE,mOjUd rqa gya hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va p!_e-
ilqe dilto. Ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI muiKt
ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
iv _ibharI : bcpn me. mE.ne 0k khanI p!_I 4I 0k kO0 kI| ]se khI. se 0k mor
ka p.q iml gya 4a| ]sne ]s p.q ko lga ilya AOr mor kI jmat me. cla
gya| leikn mor kI jmat ne ]se ye khkr ApnI jmat se wga idya ik tum
mor nhI.,kOAa ho| jb vh kO0 kI jmat me. gya to kO0 ne wI yh khkr wga
idya ik tU kOAa nhI.,mor ho|
dilto. me. dilt b/aHm bnne ke pI7e ke kar o. ko phle smzne kI
j+rt hE ik ve b/aHm bnne kI koixx Kyo. kr rhe hE.| mE. jb socta hU> tb yhI
lgta hE ik ijNhe. bcpn se Apman,]TpID_n ka d.x zelna pD_a,Ab jb ve s.pNn
ho g0 to ]Nhe. lgta hE ik ]nka smaj 6< aSpd hE AOr ve ]s smaj se juD_na
nhI. cahte,jha> rhkr Ab wI Apmaint hona pD_ta hE| leikn yh ]nka w/m hI
hE ik dilt,b/aHm o. ke bIc SvIkare ja0.ge| kb tk ve ApnI Asilyt ko
7upakr rqe.ge? yid ]nme. ye soc Aa ja0,]nka jEsa wI hE &e*# hE,Ab Apman ho
jait ke nam pr ya ku7,leikn w{ hm to ApnI jat se Alg nhI. ho.ge| leikn
[ske il0 j+rI hE vEcairk d<!_ta AOr 0ese logo. kI jo b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ke
po8k ho g0 hE.,]Nhe. jgana| 0k vjh ye wI hE ik jo dilt s.pNn hu0,]Nho.ne
wI s.pNnta haisl krne ke il0 Anap-xnap raSte Apna0| ]Nhe. Ab lgne lga
hE ik ]Nho.ne 'pap' ikya hE ya 'pap'krte hE. AOr ]sI papmuiKt ke il0
b/aHm vadI {Xvr ke Aage isr zukate hE.| ]Nhe. smzane kI j+rt hE ik {Xvr
Avtirt nhI. hu0 hE.,biLk b/aHm o. ke manspu5 hE.| m.idr ixvaly me. b/aHm o.
µara ici5t devtaAo. kI mUitRya> hE.,ye Kya kLya kr pa0>ge iksI ka| 0k t$y
yh wI hE ik sv oR. µara wI 0k 8Dy.5 ke tht dilto. me. A.2ivXvas fElaya ja
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rha hE AOr ]sme. ve sfl wI ho rhe hE.| [se rokna hoga| yid devI-devta
rhe.ge,dilto. ke bIc b/aHm vadI VyvS4a wI rhegI|
DI 0m _ _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid
hE to Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
iv _ibharI : ibLkul AavXykta hE 2mR pirvtRn kI| yid 2mR nhI. hota to xayd
hm dilt nhI. hote| hmare sa4 7uAa7Ut ka Vyvhar nhI. ikya jata,smaj se
]pei9t nhI. hote,hmarI s.pi%ya> lU3I nhI. jatI.| hm 2mR ke hI ixkar hu0 hE. AOr
ye sare p/p.c b/aHm o. µra rca gya hE| yain ik ijs 2mR me. hme. ]ict sMman
nhI. imle,jIne ke il0 do vKt kI ro3I ke lale pD_ ja0,tb vEse 2mR ko !one
se Kya law? 2mR pirvtRn hona caih0 ih.dU dilto. ka| jha> tk iksI 2mR ko
Apnane ka sval hE,to swI 2mR me. paq.D wra huAa hE| Aacr km,p/dxRn
Ai2k hE| vEse 2mR ko Apnaya jana caih0 ijsme. n paq.D ho,n kmRka.D| vh
isfR 2mR ho jo kmRvad ko p/oTsaiht krta ho|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga? ha> to kEse
AOr na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
iv _ibharI : 2mR pirvtRn kI AavXykta merI smz se dilto. ko ]s kIcD_ se
inkalne ke il0 hE,ijsme. ]Nhe. Apman,]TpID_n se jUzna pD_ rha hE| isfR 2mR
pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga,mE. nhI. smzta| ]²ar ke il0 ] m kI
AavXykta hotI hE| isfR AOr isfR 2mR pirvtRn kr iksI ka ]²ar ho ja0,muze
namumikn lgta hE| mere ivcar se 2mR pirvtRn 0k rajnIitk fEK3r wI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
iv _bharI : Aar9 ke bl pr dilt rajneta bn g0,Ai2karI bn g0| Ab ]Nhe.
ye lgne lga ik ]nke AitirKt Ab ko{ hE hI nhI.| ve jo cahe..ge,kr Dale.ge,kr
idqa0>ge| 0k trh se kha ja0 to 0ese logo. me. 0k sam.tvadI soc pEda ho g{
hE| ve ikske bl pr ]s jgh pr phu>ce,ve ibLkul wUl g0| jb ve sam.t ho g0
to ve ikse sta0>ge,ikska xo8 kre.ge? ve sv o>-ip7D_o. ka xo8 to kr nhI.
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skte,Kyo.ik mtlb saf hE ik ]Nhe. vha> 3krah3 imlegI| ]Nhe. ]nkI db.g{ wI
zelnI pD_ sktI hE| tb ve Apne nIce kI trf deqne lge,jha> ]nke wa{-b.2u hE.
AOr ApnI }>ca{ ko ve Apne nIce vale pr 4opne lge| mE. 0esI iS4it ka samna
kr rha hU> AOr bD_a hI kD_va Anuwv huAa hE muze| mE. yhI khta hU>,Are,tum log
nIce mt za>ko,}pr za.ko,tumse log iktne }>ce hE.| pr.tu nhI.,ve Apne nIce hI
za>kte hE.,Kyo.ik Apne logo. ko stana ]Nhe. Aasan lgta hE| [Nhe. mE. dilt
sam.t kI s.)a deta hU>|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
iv _ibharI : jb tk ]Nhe. y4a4R ka Aa[na nhI. idqaya ja0ga,tb tk A.tivRro2
dUr nhI. ho skta hE| dilto. ke bIc vgIRy jag+kta ke sa4-sa4 rajnIitk
jag+kta kI wI AavXykta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya
nhI.?
iv _ibharI : injIkr ke k R2ar ve hI log hE.,jo v RvadI VyvS4a ke po8k hE.|
Aaiqr injIkr kI AavXykta Kyo. pD_I? mE. smzta hU> ik injIkr ke pI7e
m.xa yhI hE ik Aai4Rk s/oto. se dilto. ko dUr rqa ja0| vEse v Rvaidyo. me. yh
2ar a fElI hu{ hE ik dilt yoGy nhI. hota,ve jo ku7 wI hE.,Aar9 ke bl pr
hE.| tb hm shj hI Aakln kr skte hE. ik injIkr se dilto. ka Kya law
hone vala hE|
DI _0m_v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3u.bkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt saihTykar,smaj
AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
iv _ibharI : "vsu2Ev ku3.bkm\" kI bat kOn log kr rhe hE.,ve hI gEr-dilt
saihTykar| ve khte ku7 hE. AOr krte ku7 hE.| 0esa wI ho skta hE ik dilt
saihTy jb ibna iksI kI mdd ke Aage inklne kI hoD_ me. xaiml ho gya hE
AOr ]nka yain gEr-dilto. ka saihTy Ap/as.igk hota idq rha hE,tb ve
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"vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" kI bat krne lge hE.| "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\"kI bat krne vale kI
jb tk AaTma nhI. bdlegI,smaj,2mR me. ivs.gitya> AOr A.tivRro2 rhe.gee hI|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
iv _ibharI : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 ijMmedar srkar wI hE AOr sv R smaj
wI| yha> pr yh khna hE ik sv R smaj hI srkar hE AOr srkar sv R smaj
hE| ve yh nhI. cahte ik dilt Aage Aa0>,Kyo.ik ]Nhe. Dr hE ik yid dilt Aage
inkl g0 to khI. ]nkI s%a n @vSt ho ja0| vEse 0esI halt me. [skI pUrI
gu.ja[x wI hE|
qud dilt ka p/Xn hE to jo sidyo. se p/taiD_t rhe,ijs trh ka jIvn
jIne ke il0 ]Nhe. ivvx ikya gya yid ve Aaj wI ApnI dynIyta ke sa4 jI
rhe hE. to mE. ]Nhe. do8 nhI. dU>ga| ]n kar o. kI pD_tal 0esI iS4it me. j+rI ho
jatI hE ik ]nkI dynIy halt hu{ to Kyo. hu{,]skI vjh Kya hE?
DI _0m _ Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s sU5 se
Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
iv _ibharI:"mera wart mhan hE"-[s jumle ko mE. Aaj tk smz nhI. paya| jha>
Aai4Rk ivwed hE,log jait-v R ke qemo. me. b>3e hu0 hE.,jha> VyiKt-VyiKt ke bIc
6< a VyaPt hE,jha> dilt ]TpID_n hE.,Kya yhI 'wart mhan' hE? [ske pI7e
b/aHm o. kI 0k kuiTst cal hE ApnI kuiTstta i7pane ke il0|
DI _0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik 'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
iv _ibharI : 'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.' ke pI7e muze sa.p/daiyk m.xa lgtI hE|
ih.duAo. me. 0esI Kya cIj hE ijs pr gvR ikya ja0| ijs 2mR me. [.san nhI.,biLk
jat ]TpNn kI g{ hE| Aaps me. 6< a pEda kI g{- yhI gvR kI bat ho sktI hE
AOr Kya? Kyo.ik [s p/kar ka ivwajn dUsre 2moR. me. ya to hE hI nhI. ya hE to
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[tna nhI.| icLlane dIij0 rajnetaAo. ko 'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'| ye @yan rhe
ik [s nare ko ko{ dilt n icLla0|
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
iv _ibharI : jo s%a s.pNn hE.,A4RspNn hE.,]nke il0 srp.c se sa.sd tk
k#putlI hE.| Aaiqr s%a s.pNnta ke il0,Aai4Rk s.pNnta ke il0 hI to sv oR.
ne smaj ko k{ vgoR. me. ba.3a hE|
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bI _kexrixvm\ Üs.i9Pt pircy Ý
nam :bI _0c jadv ]fR bI _kexrixvm\
jNm :ÔÓ-ÓÔ-ÓÛ×Ù
S4an : gadla vaDa,thisl-palnpur,jnpd-bnaska.#a|
ix9a : 0m _0 _-s.Sk<t|
s.p/it :srkarI nOkrI|
saihTy s<jn : s.i9Pt khainya>,leq Aaid|
p/kaixt k<itya> : 'sa.kl'-khanI s.g/h
'nrk'-dilt khanI s.g/h|
'rvex'-khanI s.g/h|
DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
bI _kesrixvm\- gEr-dilt saihTy muQya 2ara ka saihTy hE| dilt saihTy ]%r -
Aa2uink 2ara ka saihTy hE| [ske pUvR gEr-dilt saihTy raja-mharajaAo.,p.iDto.
2mR-2ur.2ro.,Ü#ekedaro.Ý tk hI sIimt 4a| ]nke leqk muQyt: t4aki4t ]Cc jaityo.
me. se Aate 4e| ]nme. dilto. kI vedna,Svaiwman AOr AiSmta gayb 4I| dilt
saihTy manvta,smanta AOr smrsta ka saihTy hE| ]sme. muQyt: manv AOr
manv-girma hE| gEr-dilt saihTy pr.pra ka saihTy hE,]sme. 2mR,A.2&²a Aaid ke
pU Rt: dxRn hote hE.| dilt saihTy tkR,ivcar AOr rexnl Aiwgm Apnaya huAa
saihTy hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ _-dilt saihTy ka wiv*y ]JJvl hE| ]sme. smanta,mE5I AOr
manvta ke icr.tn mULy hE.| kiv s.udrm\ kI p.iKt hE-'hU> manvI manv 4a}> to
6 u. !' ]nka mUla2ar manvIy hE AOr mnu*y hone kI dI6R AwIPsa hE,ijsme. haD_-
ma.s ke manv ka mULy hota hE| vha> saihTy kaym tOr pr dI6RjIvI rhta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
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bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr rcnaTmk p/wav pD_ rha hE|
sidyo. se dilto. ke manv smUh ko Apman imlta rha hE| [nke flSv+p dex
ko nuksan ho rha 4a| Ab dilt saihTy ke kar dilt smaj ANy smaj ke
sa4 smrs hota ja rha hE| 7uAa7Ut 2Ire-2Ire gayb hone lgI hE,leikn xrIr se
iqskkr mans me. S4an pane lgI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilt saihTy isfR ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a ka hI saihTy nhI.
hE,]sme. yh sb to hE hI,sa4 hI sa4 manvta,wa{cara AOr smanta ko wI yh
]jagr krta hE| 0kta AOr smrsta jEse smajopyogI tTvo. ke ibna ko{ wI
smaj p/git nhI. kr skta hE| dilt saihTy me. vEcairk AiwVyiKt hE| puranI
maNyta p/aPt +i!_yo. AOr A.2&²a ko [sme. S4an nhI. hE| ]sme. manv AOr
manvta ke inihta4oR. ka S4an hE|
DI _0m _v kr :Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
bI _ke _ixvm\ -dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy ke tulnaTmk A@yyn kI
AavXykta hE| muQy +p se manv,manv ivkas,manvta,dya,p/em,mE5I.,sih* uta
jEse ib.duAo. pr tulnaTmk A@yyn hona caih0|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. Me. rhne vale dilto.
0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. me. rhne vale dilto.,Aaidvaisyo. t4a
iS5yo. ko law huAa hE| manv hone kI ]Nhe. SvIk<it imlI hE| mnuvadI v R-
VyvS4a me. dilt AOr S5I ko inMn koi3 me. rqkr ]nke }pr juLm krke xo8
ikya jata 4a| dilt leqn se vh ]jagr hone lga hE| gEr-dilto. ko xayd
]sse xmR kI AnuwUit hotI hogI| Ab ve ANyay AOr ATyacar km hote ja rhe
hE.| yh bD_a law huAa hE|
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DI _0m _v kr : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg
man rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : -AaidvasI saihTykar bhut km hE| ]sme. ix9a ka Awav hE|
gujrat me. ]nka saihTy sjRn AwI bakI hE| mnuvadI v RVyvS4a ke kar ku7
AaidvasI Apne ko rajpUt ignkr dilt AOr dilt saihTy se iwNn mante
hE.,ik.tu ]nkI yh nasmz dUr hone lgI hE| ]nka saihTy dilt saihTy ka pUrk
bnega|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate
hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.2wR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : saihTy dilt hota nhI.,ik.tu yha> bat dilto. ke jIvn s.b.2I
saihTy kI hE| ]skI s.)a dI g{ hE-'dilt saihTy'| ijs p/kar narI-iv8yk
saihTy ko narIvadI saihTy kha jata hE| saihTy me. ]skI ]%r-Aa2uink ya
AnuAa2uink saihTy me. igntI hotI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke
iqlaf ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\-mnuvadI v R-VyvS4a me. jaitwed AOr ]ske pir amSv+p }>c-nIc kI
wavna Vyapk bnI hE| yh kwI-kwI Anukr ke flSv+p dilto. me. wI idqa{
detI hE,]nme. Ab pirvtRn Aana p/ar.w ho gya hE| dilto. kI ]p jaityo. ne Ab
Svy. sjRn krna p/ar.w kr idya hE| wItrI AOr bahrI wedwav ko smaPt
krna,A.2&²a ko qTm krna AOr rexnl Aiwgm Apnana -yh dilt saihTy kI
p/a4imkta hE|
DI _ 0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va
p!_e-ilqe dilto. Ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI
muiKt ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilto. me. p!_e-ilqe k{ log Svy. ko ANy dilto. se iwNn mante
hE.| phlI bar ]Nho.ne 0esa suq AOr vEwv jIvn me. deqa hE| At: Svawaivk hE ik
]Nhe. wUtkal ka jIvn naps.d ho-yh mnovE)aink sTy hE| ifrwI 0ese dilto. me.
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wI wItr hI wItr dilt samaj ko mdd krne kI wavna hotI hE,ik.tu gEr-
dilt smaj ke p/C7Nn wy ke kar ve VyKt nhI. kr skte hE.| bahr se iksI
n iksI p/kar b/aHm vad jEsa idqta hE AOr yh ANy smaj me. wI hota hE|
[sil0 isfR dilt smaj ke p!_e -ilqe logo. ko dilt b/aHm khna ]ict nhI.
hE| yh dilt b/aHm wI mnuvadI v R VyvS4a kI ]pliB2 hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid hE
to Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ :- dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE| mE. bO² 2mR ko
]ict manta hU>|
DI _ 0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga?ha> to kEse
AOr na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\-2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar hoga| bO² 2mR me. manv-manv ke
bIc wedwav kI wavna nhI. hE| A.²&²a ke il0 ]sme. ko{ S4an nhI. hE| ]sme.
wgvan kI Ape9a nEitk mULyo.-p.cxIl AadxoR. ko ivxe8 mhTv idya gya hE|
wgvan bu² magRdxRk hE.| ]nme. kmRka.D 0v. A.2&²a p/erk +i!_ya> nhI. hE.| ivvek
AOr bui² kI ksO3I pr qra ]tre to SvIkarne kI bat hE| qud ko qud ka
dIpk bnane kI bat hE| dilto. ke il0 yh p/er aSv+p hE| 2mR vEyiKtk iv8y
hE,2mR ke pirvtRn se ]²ar kI maNyta hI glt hE| Agr 0esa hI hota to ANy
2mR ke Anuyaiyyo. ka ]²ar ho gya hota| dilt 2mR-pirvtRn Svaiwman 0v.
manv girma ke il0 krte hE.| Svy. ke ]²ar ke il0 nhI.|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta ya Ai2karI pU Rt: ditto. ka xo8 krte
nhI. hE.| Anamt ka law qud AOr Apne pirvar ko ivxe8 imle,]se dilto. ka
xo8 khna ]ict nhI.| p9Iy rajnIit me. p9 AOr dilt smaj ke bIc bEle.s
bnaye rqna -yh rajneta kI AiGn-prI9a bn jatI hE| kwI-kwI ve dilto. se
d/ohwav rqte ho.,0esa wI lgta hE| ]nkI iS4it dynIy bn jatI hE| [sil0 Daš
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_A.beDkr ne Alg se mtai2kar ma.ga 4a| dilt dilto. ka xo8 krte hE. -yh
maNyta Ap-p/car hE AOr dilto. me. Aaps me. fU3 Dalne kI mnuvadI v R-VyS4a
kI 0k rIit-rSm hE|
DI _ 0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilto. ke A.tivRro2 smzne-smzane se dUr kr skte hE.| 0ese
A.tivRro2 ANy smaj me. wI hote hE.|
DI _ 0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya
nhI.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : injIkr se dilto. ka Aiht hI honevala hE| ]dahr -ix9a me.
}>cI fIs dilt nhI. wr pa0>ge|
DI _0m _v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt
saihTykar,smaj AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : "vsu2Ev ku3u.bkm\" 0k AaD.br hE,vaStivkta Alg hE| k4nI AOr
krnI me. fkR hE| sgviD_ya Üsuiv2awogIÝ 2mR hE| qule tOr pr ASp<Xyta ka paln
hota hE,ik.tu blaTkar ke smy ASp<Xyta bIc me. nhI. AatI| dilto. ko ga>v-ku0>
pr c!_ne nhI. idya jata,ik.tu Akal ke v8R me. ga.v-ku0> me. panI sUq ja0 tb
dilt ke qet se rai5 ke smy ku0> se i7p-i7p kr panI kI corI kI ja0| S5I
ko naray I kI ]pma dI ja0,ik.tu sbse Jyada ATyacar ]n pr hote hE.,iv2va
pr blaTkar hote hE. AOr S5I ko pEr kI jUtI khI jatI hE| 2mR wI ]Nhe. taD_n
kI Ai2karI khe,[sse bD_I ivD.bna AOr Kya ho sktI hE|
DI _ 0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 mnuvadI smaj-rcna ivxe8 ijMmedar
hE| ]nme. rhI hu{ }.c-nIc kI wavna ijMmedar hE| ku7 A.xo. me. srkar wI kanUn
ka p/itb²ta se Aml nhI. krtI hE tb ]se wI ijMmevar kha ja0| srkar 0k
trf dilto. ke ]²ar ke il0 kayda-kanUn ka inmaR kre,ik.tu ]nka ]ict
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Aml nhI. hota| vh kanUn 'po4I ke bEgn sman bn jata hE'| dilt smaj wI
]nke Apne me. rhI hu{ k{ +i!_yo.,Vysno,A.2&²a Aaid ko jLdI se 7oD_ne ko
tEyar nhI. hE| 0ese k{ smIrk km ya Jyada p/ma me. ijMmevar khe ja skte
hE.|
DI _ 0m _v kr : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s
sU5 se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : "mera wart mhan hE"- yh sU5 ]ict hE| p/Tyek ko Apne dex ke
il0 gOrv hona cih0|
DI _ 0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : 0ese rajneta s.kI Rta me. mante hE.| yh dex ibn-sa.p/daiyk hE| [s
gvR me. s.kI Rta idqa{ detI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
bI _ke _ixvm\ : p9Iy rajnIit me. yh s.wv hE| ]Nhe. smaj kI Ape9a p9 kI
ix*3ta Jyada statI hE| Agr 0esa nhI. ikya ja0 to dobara srp.c ya sa.sd nhI.
bn pa0ga| [sil0 Daš _A.beDkr ne Alg se mtai2kar kI ma.g kI 4I,ijsse ve p9
kI Ape9a Apne dilt smaj ke p/it vfadar rh ske|
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wI _n _v kr - Üs.i9Pt pircy Ý
jNm iti4 : Ó-×-ÓÛÖÔ
jNm S4l : s.udrpur,thisl-ivjapur,jnpd-mhesa a|
vtRman pta-×ÓØ,gay5Ingr,seK3r-ÔÙ,ga.2Ingr|
ix9a-0m _0 _ÜgujratI-ihNdIÝ,0l _0l _bI _,0Dvoke3|
Vyvsay : inv<% rajpi5t Ai2karI ÜvkaltÝ|
dUrwa8 : ÒÙÛ-ÔÕÔÕØÓÙÙ
p/kaixt k<itya> : kaVy s.g/h-'yad' ÓÛÛÕ,'Aovr ib/j'-ÔÒÒÓ,
'Anub.2'-ÔÒÒÖ,'mOn na mukam pr'-ÔÒÒÛ
khanI-s.g.h : 'ivlopn'-ÔÒÒÓ
l6uuk4a s.g/h :'cIs'-ÔÒÒØ
smI9a : 'p/Tyayn'-ÔÒÒÓ,'Anus.2an''- ÔÒÒÓ,'nvoNme8'- ÔÒÒÕ,'pyaRy'- ÔÒÒÖ
'.dilt saihTy'- ÔÒÒ×,'ivv<it'- ÔÒÒÚ
kaVyaSvad s.g/h : 'y4a4R' - ÔÒÒÕ,'sUyaRyn'- ÔÒÒØ,'sUyaRnuwUit'Üp/kaXy- ÔÒÒÛÝ|
reqaic5 : 'r µIp'- ÔÒÒÕ
inb.2 s.g/h : 'AnuC7ed'- ÔÒÒÖ
s.t cir5 : 'Anhd'- ÔÒÒÙ
pairtoi8k Ó _: rajS4an saihTy AkadmI p/eirt gujrat saihTy s.gm ka
A.trwartIy saihTy b.2uTv naray guu= 0vaDR- ÔÒÒÓ
pairtoi8k Ô : samaijk Nyay AOr Ai2kairta ivwag,gujrat srkar ka s.t &I
kbIr dilt saihTy 0vaDR- ÔÒÒÖ-Ò×
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DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
wI _n _v kr : phle mE. Aapke p/Xn ka pl3kr jvab d>U to ,dono. mUlwUt +p
se saihTy hE.-dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy,ifrwI Aaj ka gEr-dilt
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sa.p/t saihTy smaj se dUr cla gya hE| gEr-dilt saihTy yain kI lilt
saihTy,kla ke il0 kla ka saihTy,jo manv jIvn se dUr hE,sivxe8
kaLpink hE,jbik dilt saihTy 'manv ke.id/t' hE| samaijk p/itb² hE,jIvn
ke il0 kla ka saihTy hE| sivxe8 Aam AadmI ka,dilt,pIiD_t,xoi8t smaj
ka [sme. p/itib.b pD_ta hE,flSv+p Aam AadmI ke dilt jIvn kI pID_a ka yh
saihTy hE| yh dilt jIvn kI vedna ko va I dene vala saihTy hE| s.9ep me.
dilt saihTy dilto. kI vedna AOr ivd/oh ka saihTy hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
wI _n _v kr : manv jIvn ka ]d\wv AOr ]T4an ka [ithas 0k l.bI s.Skar
ya5a hE| wartIy smaj me. v R VyvS4a ivk<t Sv+p me. p/S4aipt ho g{ hE| yh
smSya yugo. se hE,yh ko{ 0k idn kI den nhI. hE,[sil0 yh iksI 0k rai5 me.
dUr hone vala nhI. hE| yuge-yuge yh nye-nye Sv+p me. p/k3 ho rhI hE| tb manv
smaj ke wiv*y ke sa4 dilt saihTy ke wiv*y ka Anus.2an hE| v Rwed AOr
vgRwed ivSm<t hote ja rhe hE.,tb dilt saihTy kI 2ara ivSt<t hotI ja rhI hE|
Aai9itj ivkasxIl hotI rhegI| sivxe8 dilt saihTy sm<² hota rhega|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
wI _n __v kr : dilt saihTy µara dilt jIvn ka pircy wartIy smaj ko
hone lga hE| dilt smaj A.itm tbka ka itrSk<t hokr haix0 pr 4a,]nkI
vedna,cetna,]nke jIvn kI s.vednaAo. se wartIy smaj Anjan rha 4a|
t4aki4t ]Cc v R AOr vgR ke smaj ne kaym +p se dilt smaj kI ]pe9a kI
4I,pir am Sv+p dilt smaj ivxal smaj se ]pei9t 4a| bhut km leqko. ne
ga.2I p/wavanusar shanuwUit pUvRk dilto. ke s.dwR me. ilqa hE| Aaj to yh p/vah
wI smaPt hota ja rha hE| bad me. ivkasxIl hone lga hE,tb dilt smaj ke
leqk SvanuwUt jIvn ka saihTy ilqne lge| ]sse wartIy smaj jIvn ko wI
]nkI sCca{ yuKt s.vednaAo. ka s.SpxR hone lga| dilt saihTy kI p/vah2ara
ke pir amSv+p wartIy khe jate ]Cc vgR ke leqk wI dilto. ke s.dwR me.
ilqne lge hE.| dilto. ke jIvn iv8yk dilto. µara ilqa gya dilt saihTy ka
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SvIkar hI bhut bD_I ]pliB2 hE| pUre wart me. tmam p/adeixk wa8aAo. me. dilt
saihTy p/JJvilt huAa hE-yhI bD_I ]pliB2 hE| [tna hI nhI.,wartIy saihTy
Akadimyo. me.,iv alyo. AOr ivXvi alyo. me. fElne lga hE| yhI dilt saihTy ke
wartIy smaj pr pD_e hu0 p/wav ka SvIkar hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
wI _n _v kr : phla to dilt saihTy 0k saihTy hE,sa4 hI yh dilt smaj
ke p/it p/itb² hE| [s p/kar dilt saihTy dilto. kI ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a
kI AiwVyiKt to hE hI,sa4 hI samaijk cetna se s.pNn hE| dilt
hyaitÜ]piS4itÝ,girma,AiSmta AOr manvIy cetna ko cirta4R krta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
wI _n _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy kI tulna me. dilt saihTy iksI !.g se hlka
ya inMn k9a ka nhI.,biLk jIvn kI sCca{,samaijk vaStivkta 0v.
klaTmk !.g se wI k{ iv8yo. me. &e*# hE| ifr wI gEr-dilt saihTy ko 0k
l.bI ivkasya5a imlI hu{ hE| saihTy ka 0k Vyapk AOr sm<² [ithas hE|
dUsrI Aor dilt saihTy 0k nvoNme8 +p se p/k3 huAa hE| gEr-dilt
saihTy,saihTy kI muQy 2ara ke sa4 juD_a huAa hE,jbik dilt saihTy 0k
nvIn 2ara hE,]sme. pU R +p se ivkist hone kI 9mta hE,ifrwI vh pU R +p se
ivkist hona bakI hE| ivkist hone do wiv*y me. vh gEr-dilt saihTy kI
tulna me. s9m bn ja0ga| Aaj wI jIvn kI sCca{,samaijk vaStivkta AOr
Svanuwv kI AiwVyiKt me. iksI wI !.g se ApU R ho ske 0esa nhI. hE| dilt
saihTy ]nke wav AOr wa8aiwVyiKt me. wI blvan hE| Aaj wI dilt saihTy
mULyvan hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale dilto.
0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
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wI _n _v kr : A.tt: saihTy ka Anub.2 ix9a ke sa4 hE| ix9a kI ma5a
b!_tI ja0gI tb saihTy ke p/it =ic b!_tI ja0gI| A9r)an ke sa4 Apnapn
ka wav AOr wa8a ke p/it Anurag Aaj nhI. to kl yanI wiv*y me. AvXy
jgega,tb igir-k.draAo. ya dUr ke 9e5 me. rhne vale dilto. AOr iS5yo. me. Apnapn
ke wav ke sa4 cetna AvXy hI jag<t hogI| sa4 hI Apne saihTy ka )an wI
hoga| tb ve wI p/S4aipt pr.pra,xo8 AOr ANyay ke samne AvXy hI ivd/oh
kre.ge|
DI _0m _v kr : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg man
rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
wI _n _v kr : AaidvasI saihTy ho ya dilt saihTy,dono. xoi8t,pIiD_t,p7at
vgR ka p/itini2Tv krte hE.| Awavg/St grIb AOr Anp!_ jnta,jo smaj ke muQy
p/vah se Alg,]pei9t,Apmaint AOr Awav pIiD_t hE.,t4aki4t ]Cc vgR se
itrSk<t wI hE.| [s p/kar dono. vgR iv8yk iliqt saihTy me. smanta hone ke
bad wI dono. vgoR. kI jIvn xElI me. iwNnta wI hE| AaidvasI smaj wle ASp<Xy
nhI. hE,ik.tu Alg hE,muQy jIvn 2ara se p<4k hE,dilt smaj t4aki4t }prI
vgR se A7Ut bna huAa hE| ik.tu muQy jIvn 2ara ke sa4,4oD_I sI ma5a me. juD_a
huAa hE| dono. vgR grIb hE.,xoi8t AOr pIiD_t hE. [sil0 dono. vgR ke leqk injI
jIvn xElI ko AiwVyKt kre,[sme. ko{ Aapi% nhI.,bad me. wle vo dilt
saihTy ho ya AaidvasI saihTy| A.t me. ye dono. dilt-pIiD_t,xoi8t jnta kI
vedna AOr cetna kI AiwVyiKt ka saihTy hE|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate
hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.2wR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
wI _n _v kr : dilt ka p/cilt A4R-dba huAa,kucla huAa,wle hE ik.tu saihTy
[s A4R me. Aiwp/et nhI.| dilt ka dUsra A4R wI hE ijse wvwUit ne ]%rramcirt
me. ilqa hE ik 'kml ke sman iqle vh dilt'| dilt saihTy wI kml ke
sman iqlta,qulta,ivksta saihTy hE| dilt saihTy cetna,vedna AOr ivd/oh
ka saihTy hE| [s saihTy kI 0k Alg phcan hE| jEn saihTy,vEidk
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saihTy,kC7I saihTy,car saihTy,nIg/o saihTy ya narI saihTy hote hE.,to
dilt saihTy s.)a se iksI ko Kya Aapi% hE? ha>,sCce saihTykar ko ko{
Aapi% nhI. hotI,ik.tu jaitvadI mans vale +i!_cuXto. ko Aapi% ho to [sme.
ko{ AitxyoiKt nhI.|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke
iqlaf ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
wI _ n _ v kr : jaitwed yane ik jaitwed| bad me. vh Aa.tirk ho ya baHy-
dono. !.g se bure hE.-]Nhe. i2Kkarna caih0| jaitwed iksI Sv+p me. ho,vh SvIkayR
nhI. hE| vgRivhIn smaj ka yh SvPn hE,]se sakar hona caih0| dilt
saihTykar kI jo Ape9a0> hE.,]nme. iksI wI p/kar ka jaitwed iksI wI +p me.
SvIkayR nhI. hE| smta,smanta,Svt.5ta,b.2uta AOr Nyay p/Tyek mnu*y ko imlna
caih0| bad me. vh p7at ho ya Ait p7at-svR ke il0 sman hE| man-manv ke
bIc Vyvhar me. ya sU(m wav se wI wedwav nhI. hona caih0| Aa.tirk ya baHy
wedwav ko i2Kkar hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va p!_e-
ilqe dilto. Ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI muiKt
ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
wI _n _v kr : dilt hona ya b/aHm bn jana yh samaijk mnu*y kI manisk
p/i¢ya hE| p!_e-ilqe dilt b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ke ixkar wle bn gye ho.,]Nhe.
b/aHm to dilt mankr hI Vyvhar krte hE.| nOkrI me.,rajnIit me.,ix9a me. _ _ _ _
hr jgh smanta ya smrsta kI bat 0k idqava hE| Daš _baba sahb ne wI
duqI ¹dy se kha 4a-"p!_e-ilqe logo. ne hI mere sa4 7l ikya hE|" smaj ke
nam pr,Aar9 ke nam pr law lekr jo vgR }pr ]#a hE ya Aage Aaya hE,]nke
isr smaj ka 1 hE,]n logo. ka ktRVy hE ik jo log pI7e rh g0 hE.,]Nhe.
mdd kre.| Daš _AMbeDkr ne kha ik "samaijk ¢a.it ke r4 ko Aage b!_a0>,dilt
smaj ka muiKtm.5 sa.p/t yug ke msIha sman Daš _A.beDkr ka magR hE|" smta,
smanta, Svt.5ta AOr b.2uta ka wav dilt smaj ko baba sahb ka sUict
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magR svR ko 0k bna0ga,samaijk p/itb²ta wI b.2uta AOr k= a ke wav ibna
s.wv nhI.| smg/ dilt smaj Daš _A.beDkr ke id0 hu0 magR ka SvIkar kre|
"ixi9t bno,s.gi#t bno AOr s.68R kro|" smg/ dilt smaj ka yh muiKt m.5
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid hE to
Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
wI _n _v kr : Daš _A.beDkr sahb ne Sp*3 kha hE ik "2mR manv ke il0
hE,manv 2mR ke il0 nhI.|" jo 2mR manv ka Apman krta hE,vh 2mR nhI.,jo
2mR manv ko Apnata nhI. hE tb manv Svawaivk !.g se ]s 2mR ko iks !.g
se Apna0ga? yha> jait kI trh 2mR wI jNm ke sa4 imlta hE| 2mR me.
ivk<itya> p/vex krtI hE. tb vh n*3 hota hE| kanUn hone ke bad wI 2mR ke
AnuyayI nhI. su2rte,tb dilt kb tk [.tjar kre.ge? dilto. ke p/it ATyacar
AOr i2Kkar ka Sv+p wle bdl gya pr.tu km nhI. huAa hE| bO² 2mR ke AnuyayI
Aaj b!_te rhe hE.| bO² 2mR vE)aink 0v. vEiXvk SvIk<it Apnata rha hE| Daš
_A.beDkr ka btaya huAa hE ik [sme. dya AOr k= a,smanta AOr b.2uta hE|
[sil0 dilt 2Ire-2Ire ihNdU 2mR kI ivk<t AOr pOrai k pr.pra ke samne ivd/oh
kr rhe hE. AOr wgvan bu² AOr Daš _A.beDkr ke sa4 Anurag ka wav rha hE| tb
dilt Svawaivk +p se bO² 2mR ke p/it AaS4a p/k3 krte rhe hE.| wle Daš
_A.beDkr jEsa ih.dU 2mR ke p/it Aa.doln Sv+p ivd/oh p/k3 n kre to wI dilto.
kI 2aimRk maniskta bdl rhI hE,[nme. bO² 2mR ke p/it AaS4a iniht hE|
duinya me. xiKt ka xItyu² cl rha hE,tb dilt Svawaivk !.g se bO² 2mR me.
pirvitRt ho rhe hE.| dilt SvIkar kr rhe hE. ik Aaj wI ]Nhe. ih.dU 2mR me. Svman
AOr sMman sbkI trh sman wav se imlta nhI. hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga?ha> to kEse AOr
na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
wI _n _v kr : mhawart me. kha gya hE ik jo Apnata hE vh 2mR,jo 2mR sTy
ko Anusre nhI.,jo 2mR r9a nhI. kre.,vh 2mR iks kam ka? k R ne 2mR ke p/it
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s.deh VyKt krke kha 4a ik mE. sTy ko,nIit ko AOr 2mR ko Anusrta
hU>,ifrwI 2mR Kyo . merI r9a nhI. krta? At: 2mR me. muze s.deh hota hE| Aaj
dilt wI yh p/Xn pU7te hE.,ik.tu dilt ijs 2mR me. hE.,vh ih.dU 2mR ke pas Aaj
wI ]%r nhI. hE| lokxahI ra* me. s.vE2aink kanUno. ka p/itb.2 hone ke bavjUd
2mR ke AnuAayI ya ]nke #ekedaro. kI Aor se dilto. ke p/it sU(m wav,Ap/k3
Sv+p wI ANyay,i2Kkar,wedwav im3e nhI. hE.| yh wItrI As.to8 manv kI cetna
ko ku.d kr deta hE| At: ijs 2mR ke p/it AaS4a nhI. ho,]s 2mR me. namxe8
rhkr ij.da rhne kI Ape9a ijs 2mR me. &²a ya AaS4a ho ]s 2mR ko SvIkar
krna caih0| 2mR &²a ka iv8y hE,jNm se imle hu0 2mR kI Ape9a,smzdarI
pUvRk,&²apUvRk SvIk<t 2mR hI VyiKt ke il0 sCca 2mR bna rhta hE| &²a AOr
smzdarI pUvRk ka sCca Aacr hI 2mR hE| ijsme. sTy hE,k= a,smanta hE
]sme. hI manv kI ]Nnit hE| AaiTmk cetna kI jag+kta hE _ _ _ ifr ']²ar'
AOr 2mR pirvtRn jEse xBd ka p/yog inr4Rk hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
wI _n _v kr : isfR Aari9t neta AOr Ai2kaarI hI nhI.,ANy neta AOr Ai2karI
wI dilto. ka xo8 krte hE.| flt: Aar9 kI An4R me. g na nhI. kI ja
sktI hE ya do8arop nhI. ikya ja skta| Aar9 AavXyk hE| Aaj xo8
savRjink dU8 bn gya hE| [sme. wI dilt sivxe8 hE.| [nka muQy kar dilt
Aaj wI dba huAa hE| Anp!_,dird/ AOr dubRl hE,pir amt: ]nkI Aavaj dbI hu{
hE| dilto. ko Ab Svy. jag<t hona hE| ANyay ke samne Aavaj ]#ana hE| xo8
krne vale kOn hE.,yh mhTvpU R nhI. hE,]nke samne gdr krna caih0 AOr
Ai2karo. ke il0 jag/t bnna caih0| Aari9t rajneta ya Ai2karI A.t me. to
smaj ke nam se imle hu0 Aar9 ka law ilya hE tb dilto. ke iht AOr
Ai2karo. ke il0 p/itb² sevk bnna hE AOr jo 0esa nhI. krta vh smaj d/ohI
hE,Apra2I hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
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wI _n _v kr : Daš _A.beDkr ka key sU5 "ixi9t bno,s.gi#t bno AOr s.68R
kro"- isfR yhI m.5 dilto. ke sare A.tivRro2o. ko dUr krega| Aaj inr9rta AOr
grIbI dilto. ko imla huAa mharog hE ijsne sare dU8 o. ko pEda ikya hE| Daš
_baba sahb d/*3a 4e AOr ]nka samaijk dxRn dUrdxIR 4a| 'ix9a,s.g#n AOr
s.68R' dilt Apna0> to tmam p/kar ke A.tivRro2 ka A.t hoga|
DI _0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlegaya
nhI.?
wI _n _v kr : injIkr se grIbo.,dilto. ko ya p7at vgoR. ko ko{ law nhI.
imlne ke kar hI wUtkal me. [.idra jI kI srkar ne ra* Iykr kI Aor ku7
#os kdm ]#aye 4e,pir amt: dilt,p7at log ra* Iy p/vah me. juD_e 4e|
bE.ko.,ingmo.,boDoR. Aaid kI nOkiryo. me. AC7I s.Qya me. ve kayaRiNvt hu0 4e| pr.tu
ifr se ra* Iy p/vah ka ]l3a c¢ ifr rha 4a,ijsme. injIk r ke kar ifr se
jaitvad,p/dexvad,kOmvad jEse v R AOr vgR ke vad Aakar le.ge,ijsme.
dilto.,p7at vgR AaidvasI smaj AOr grIb haix0 me. ja0>ge AOr Aai4Rk +p se
fna ho ja0>ge,0esa s.deh wUtkal ke Anuwv AOr wartIy p/ja-manv ko @yan me.
rqte hu0 xayd sCca wI pD_ega| ra* Iykr ke kdmo. se p7at vgoR. 0v. dilto.
me. jo ]Tsah 4a,vh injIkr ke kar ifr se smaPt ho rha hE| [tna hI
nhI.,ic.itt kr rha hE|
DI _0m _v kr :"vsu2Ev ku3u.bkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt saihTykar,smaj
AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
wI _n v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\"kI wavna vedkalIn yug kI hE| Aaj smg/
smaj AOr smy bdl gya hE| wUtkalIn AadxoR. se wle hm gOrvaiNvt hote
ho.,ik.tu Aaj AadxR AOr y4a4R ke bIc bhut bD_a A.tr idqa{ deta hE| smaj me.
Anek p/kar kI ivk<ityo. ne p/vex pa ilya hE| smaj smaj rha nhI. AOr manv
mUl se bdl gya hE,tb ko{ 0k do kar nhI.,Anek kar hE. ijnkI ivStar se
bat krna AinvayR hE| smg/ mahOl ivs.vad AOr A.tivRro2 se wra huAa hE| ifr
jaitvad,v R ya vgRvad AOr 2maR.2ta ko do8 dekr Kya hm +k ja0>ge?
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DI _0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
wI n _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 tIno. ijMmevar hE.| AajadI ke sat
dxk hone ke bavjUd dilto. kI iS4it Kyo. dynIy rhI? srkar.e bdltI
rhI.,ik.tu s.vE2aink ktRVy me. Kya fkR pD_ne vala hE? Aar9 0k dxk ke il0
4a [ska kar yh 4a ik AajaadI ke bad lokxahI srkar ke suxasn se
dilto. kI iS4it su2r ja0gI,ik.tu 0esa ho nhI ska| ]l3a kOmvad AOr
jaitvad ka ]pd/v b!_ta gya| Apne mt bE.k kI sur9a ke il0 p/Tyek srkar
ApnI [C7a-xiKt ke bIc s.iv2an µara id0 g0 kLya raj ke magRdxRk is²a.to.
ko wUl jatI hE| mE. khU. ik srkar ini*¢y hE| [s p/kar rajnIit jnta kI
rg-rg me. rm g{ hE,pir amt: sv R smaj ka dilto. ke p/it sd\wavna kI
Ape9a wedwav p/k3 hota rha hE| jaitvad,kOmvad,rajnIit ke kar fElta rha
ijske flSv+p kha jata sv R smaj kI dmnkarI VyvS4a se dilt muKt
nhI. hE.| tIsrI Aor 2aimRk pr.pra dilto. ko A7Ut rqne me. km ijMmevar nhI. hE|
2maRN2,+i!_g/St p/ja mans ko,dilto. ko ATyacar ne dbakr rqa hE AOr A.t me.
rhI bat dilto. kI,dilt sbse ivxe8 ijMmedar hE.| AajadI ke 7h dxk wogne
ko imle,s.vE2aink Ai2kar imle,kanUn dilto. ke p9 me. bne,lokxahI
p/jat.5aTmk raJy bna AOr 15 p/itxt dilt Kyo. ip7D_e rhe| dilto. kI
A)anta,inr9rta,AOr grIbI h3ane ke il0 Kya ko{ {Xvr Avtar lega? dilto.
ko Apne Ai2karo. ke il0 lD_na caih0,p/Tyek dilt ka balk ixi9t hona
caih0| Daš _baba sahb ne kha hE ]sI p/kar ixi9t hokr s.gi#t hona AavXyk
hE| ANyay ke samne s.68R krne me. pI7e h3e. to dilto. ka ]²ar kOn krega?
ANyo. kee sman dilt wI qud ijMmedar hE.|
DI _0m _v kr : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s
sU5 se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
wI _n _v kr : ha>,"mera wart mhan hE"| ivXv me. sbse bD_I lokxahI 2ar
ikya huAa ra* hE| bhut bD_a dirya iknara imla hE,ihmaly jEsa mhan igir&<.g
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imla hE,]vRr jmIn,hre-wre qet,barho. mas bhtI g.ga-ymuna jEsI nidya>,iviv2
wa8a,iviv2 jnta,mohnjodD_o jEsI pOrai k s.Sk<it,nal.da jEsI iv apI#
hE,1Gved jEsa p/acIn g/.4,ramay ,mhawart jEse mhakaVy _ _ _ gOrv ke sa4 kha
ja skta hE ik "mera wart mhan hE",ifrwI ijskI igir&<.g ggncu.bI hote
hE.,]nke gD\!e wI ]tne hI ghre hote hE.| mhan dex kI p/ja Kyo. Avnit wugt rhI
hE? cails p/itxt grIbI reqa ke tht pIiD_t p/ja,byails p/itxt p/ja inr9r
Kyo.? kOmvad v jaitvad ke d.ge Kyo.? dex ka p/Tyek pa>cva> nagirk
6<i t,Apmaint Kyo.? A7Ut Kyo.? Ai2kar se v.ict Kyo.? vEse to dex mhan
hE,leikn ]nke gOrv ke sa4 ximR.da wI bnna pD_ta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
wI n _v kr : p/Tyek 2mR ke rajgu= Apne 2mR ka gOrv le skte hE.,2aimRk neta
ka iht suri9t hE tb tk _ _ _ pr.tu A.t me. to 2mR Anuyaiyyo. µara bnte hE.|
2aimRk neta p/gitxIl nhI. hote| ]nke AnuyayI xIl,sdacar AOr 2maRcarI nhI
hote,tb vh 2mR Apne Aap 2mR ke +p me. n*3 hota hE| ih.dU 2mR kI g na
snatn 2mR ke +p me. hu{ hE| ]nke S4apk ke +p me. ko{ 0k wgvan nhI.,biLk
pr.pragt Avtaro. Ka muQy ihSsa hE| )an tTv,tTv)an,ved-]pi8d jEsa saihTy
AOr Anek AnuyayI AOr mhan dex kI s.Sk<it imlne ke bad p/Xn hota hE ik
}>c-nIc ka wedwav,v R-sv R ka wedwav,7uAa7Ut ka wedwav ijtna ih.dU 2mR me.
p/S4aipt hE,0esa ivXv ke iksI wI dex kI p/ja me. idqa{ nhI. deta hE| dUr
h3o,dUr ho-pukaro. ke bIc 2mR ke #ekedar +pa AOr sona ka me=d.D Apnakr
0exo-Aaram krte hE. AOr ih.dU 2mR ke s%r p/itxt AnuyayI isfR i2Kkar ke pa5
hote hE.| ku7 2ink 2aimRk is.hasn ko 2ar kre AOr xe8 grIb dUr-dUr se 2mR
kI pukar kr khte ho.,A7Ut ka SpxR krna nhI.,m.idr me. jana nhI.,]Nhe. p!_ne pr
p/itb.2,2mRxaS5 p!_ne pr p/itb.2 _ _ _ jEsI Sm<itya> s.g/iht hotI ho. AOr gvR ilya
jata ho tb ih.dU hone ka gOrv manne me. hInta ya l6uta kI AnuwUit hotI hE|
jo 2mR manv ko i2Kkare,Are ! ]nke Anyaiyyo. ko i2Kkare yh 2mR
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nhI.,2maRN2ta ka ivt.Davad hE| manvta kI ivD.bna hE,[sme. gOrv kEsa? 2mR me.
rhI hu{ sD_n ko,p/vex p/aPt ivk<ityo. ko n*3 krna ]nme. hI 2aimRkta hE| jo
2mR ]nke Anuyaiyyo. ko nhI. Apnata hE AOr i2Kkarta hE,]Nhe. 2mR kha?
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI
bna ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
wI _n _v kr : yh p/Xn dilt saihTy ya dilt smaj ko SpxR nhI. krta At:
yha> ccaR ko S4an nhI.|
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inb.2Üp/vas inb.2,reqaic5 [TyaidÝ,ku7 khainya>,kivta0>,ih.dI
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× _ 'hirfa{'-0ka.kI s.g/h--'&e*# puStk pairtoi8k'Üp/4mÝ-ÔÒÒÕ,gujrat
saihTy
AkadmI,ga.2Ingr|
Ø _ 'gI2'-]pNyas-'s.tokba suv R c.d/k'- ÔÒÒÒ,gujrat dilt saihTy
AkadmI,Ahmdabad|
Ù _ 'w wa.q u.'-]pNyas- 'dasI jIvn-&e*# dilt saihTy k<it'-ÔÒÒ×-ÒØ,
gujrat srkar Üsamaijk Nyay AOr Ai2kairta ivwagÝ|
Ú _ 'w wa.q u.'-]pNyas-'dOlt w© pairtoi8k'Üp/4mÝ- ÔÒÒÖ-Ò×,gujratI
saihTy pir8d,Ahmdabad|
-'&e*# puStk pairtoi8k'Üp/4mÝ-ÔÒÒÖ,gujrat saihTy AkadmI,ga.2Ingr|
-'&I ip/yka.t prIq nvl k4a pairtoi8k'-ÔÒÒÖ, gujratI saihTy
pir8d,Ahmdabad|
Û _'Kya> 7e sUrj'? ÜkaVy s.g/hÝ- -&e*# puStk pairtoi8kÜiµtIyÝ-
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ÔÒÒÒ,gujrat saihTy AkadmI,ga.2Ingr|
ÓÒ _ 'dilt saihTy nI AajIvn seva'-kiv nris.h meehta dilt saihTy 0vaDR-
ÔÒÒÓ-ÒÔ
ÓÓ _ '2Umketu purSkar 'Ü2Umketu pirvarÝ 'Dr' khanI s.g/h ke il0,ÔÒÒÛ
[ske AitirKt ANy purSkar AOr sMman|
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DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
dlpt cOhan : ijs saihTy me.,dilt 63na ivxe8,dilt pirvex,dilto. kI
Aa.cilk wa8a,{Xvr ka nkar 0v. 2mR inrpe9ta,dilto. kI samaijk,2aimRk
pr.pra0>,dilt mnoraJy,y4a4R AOr Adilt smaj ke p/it hrek p/kar ke s.b.2 ho
]se dilt saihTy khte hE.| AOr njdIk se khe. to dilt ijske ke.d/ me.
ho.,manv ijske ke.d/ me. ho.-vh dilt saihTy hE| [sse jo ]l3a hE vh Adilt
saihTy hE| bs yh A.tr smzna hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
dlpt cOhan : 'dilt 'jb tk hE.,dilt saihTy Apna +p bdlkr AvXy
rhega,mrega nhI.|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
dlpt cOhan : dilt saihTy se Adilt saihTy AOr smaj bOqla gya hE|
p/wav kI bat to hE| Ab wartIy smaj ic.itt hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
dlpt cOhan : ko{ wI saihTy 0k @yey lekr clta nhI. hE,]sme. Apne Sva4R
iniht hote hE.| ]pe9a,Apman,pID_a kI jb bat hotI hE tb sa4 me.
]ska ivro2,Aa¢ox,Apnapn,sbke sa4 sd\Vyvhar,p/em,samaijk 0k+pta,
Anoqa wartIy smaj ho,ko{ }>c-nIc n ho -yh sb iniht hota hE| dilt
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saihTy dilt smaj ko lekr clta hE,Adilt smaj ko wI Apna sa4I
smzta hE,Apna 0k nya smaj dex-duinya ho-[s wavna ko reqa.ikt krta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
dlpt cOhan : dilt saihTy kI hr iv2a me. rcna0> ho rhI hE. to hr iv2a me.
tulnaTmk A@yyn hona j+rI hE| isfR iv2aAo. me. nhI.,ik.tu hr wartIy wa8a me.
dilt saihTy ka tulnaTmk A@yyn hona caih0 0v. saihTy ke sa4-sa4
Adilto. µara dilt smaj ka Adilt smaj ke sa4 tulnaTmk A@yyn hona
caih0|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale dilto.
0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
dlpt cOhan : _dilt leqn ne igirjno.,Aaidjno.,nairyo.,ip7D_e logo. ko ApnI
klm clane ke il0 ]ksaya hE AOr sb ApnI-ApnI bate. lekr Aa rhe hE.| [sse
]n sbko law huAa hE| sa4 hI hmare smaj ka pUra ic5 Aa rha hE to j+r
]Nhe. AOr smaj ko law huAa hE|
DI _0m _v kr : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg man
rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
dlpt cOhan : wartIy smaj tIn ihSso. me. b>3a smaj hE-ga>v me. rhne vale,ga>v
se dUr sIvan me. bsne vale AOr j.gl me. bsnevale| jb hm tIn ihSso. me. b>3e hE.
AOr hmara saihTy ke iv8y me. ko{ mel nhI hE| hmare rhn-shn, bolcal,
wa8a,2aimRk i¢ya0>,yane hr +p me. hm Alg hE.| jb hm saihTy kI rcna krte
hE. to hmarI s.Sk<it,wa8a,pr.pra0> lekr rcna krte hE.,hmare p/Xn AOr duiv2a0>
Alg hE. to saihTy Alg smze.,]sme. ko{ bura{ nhI. hE| ik.tu yh bat @yan me.
rhe ik hm gujratI saihTy se Alg nhI. hE.| 0k Alg 2ara hE|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate
hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.dwR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
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dlpt cOhan : ko{ nvIn saihTy,cetna p/k3 hotI hE to ]s vKt ]ska
namkr nhI. hota| bad me. ]s saihTy p/kar ko smzne ke il0,]s smy ko
smzne ke il0 ko{ nam idya jata hE| jEse-ga.2IyugIn saihTy,jEn saihTy,
Svaimnaray , Aa2uink,Anu-Aa2uink saihTy| Kya yh bat khne me. k{ ivro2
ya sval ]#a0 jate hE.? nhI.| to ifr dilt saihTy khne me. iksI ko Kyo.
ivro2 hona caih0? dilt saihTy ka dmdar hona j+rI hE| smy hI ivroi2yo.
ko cup kr dega|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke
iqlaf ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
dlpt cOhan : dilt saihTy dohrI lD_a{ lD_ rha hE| jb tk hm pUra dilt
saihTy nhI. p!_ lete tb tk yh p/Xn j+r ]#e.ge| hm dono. iS4ityo. ko n*3
krna cahte hE.| dilto. ko AapsI }>c-nIc ko wI dilt saihTy ltaD_ta hE|
twI to dilt saihTy ApnI jmIn mjbUt kr rha hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va p!_e-
ilqe dilto. ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI muiKt
ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
dlpt cOhan : ko{ wI smaj hmexa Apne }pr vale smaj kI nkl krta hE|
]Cc vgR,m@ym vgR se ya ip7D_e vgR se dUrI bnaye rqta hE| vEse hI dilto. me. jo
Aai4Rk +p se ]Cc vgR-m@ym vgR pnpa hE,vh cailyo. me. rhne vale ga>v me. rhne
valo. se dUrI bnaye rqte hE.,yh manvIy Svawaivk i¢ya hE| ]se rokna s.wv nhI.
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid hE to
Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
dlpt cOhan : 2mR Agr samaijk smanta deta hE,]se bdlna j+rI nhI. hE|
yid samaijk smanta nhI. deta to ]se bdlna j+rI hE| jEse-jEse yh bat hr
AadmI AOr dilt smzega,to ]pay Apne Aap !U>!_ inkalega|
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DI _0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga?ha> to kEse AOr
na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
dlpt cOhan : 2mR se Jyada samaijk 0kta kI j+rt hE| hr 2mR me. khI. n
khI. log b>3e hu0 hE.| hm jha> wI g0 vha> Apna Dera Alg bsa hE,]se smzna
j+rI hE| 2mR bdlna AaiqrI ]pay nhI. hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
dlpt cOhan : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE.?-yh bat brabr nhI. hE| ko{ wI rajneta AOr Ai2karI smaj ka xo8 krte
hE.| ]n logo. se hmarI Ape9a0> Jyada hotI hE.| ]nko wI ko{ pU7ne vala hota
hE| nkel hotI hE- ye bate. hm wUl jate hE.|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
dlpt cOhan : ko{ inym ke tht yh kam nhI. hoga| 2Ire-2Ire smaj bdlta
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝse dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya
nhI.?
dlpt cOhan : injIkr se dilto. ko jait p/taiD_t nhI. kregI,]Nhe. p/ityoigta
me. Aane kI qUb tEyarI krnI pD_egI ANy4a dilto. ko k.gal se wI k.gal bnne
ko tEyar rhna pD_ega| hr iv a me. AguAa bno,Aage b!_o -yhI injIkr ka m.5
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt
saihTykar,smaj AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
dlpt cOhan : sU5 AOr smaj hmexa Alg hote hE.,[se @yan me. rqo| manvIy
ivcar hI ]ske jnk hE.| blvan Aage,inbRl #okr qate rhe.ge|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
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dlpt cOhan : jb soc nhI. 4I to smaj ijMmedar 4a| Ab dilto. ko koixx
krnI caih0|
DI _0m _v kr : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" [s sU5
se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
dlpt cOhan : ko{ wI sU5 dex ko mhan nhI. bnata AOr dex ]s wUim pr rhte
smaj se bnta hE| jb tk pUra smaj mhan,dI6Rd<i*3 vala nhI. bnta,jait-
pa>it qTm nhI. hotI,2mR-{man ke zgD_e qTm nhI. hote tb tk yh sU5 !kosla
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
dlpt cOhan : rajnIit me. 0ese !kosle hmexa clte rhte hE.| [sse bckr rhna
caih0|
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
dlpt cOhan : sv R netaAo. ne nhI.,pEse ne netaAo. ko k#putlI bnaya hE| pEse
imlna b.d ho ja0 to ifr deqo hr log s.t bn ja0ga,pr vh idn kha>?
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2rmaw{ nagrdas &ImalI
Üs.i9Pt pircyÝ
nam : 2rmaw{ nagrdas &ImalI
jNm iti4 :ÔÓ-ÓÔ-ÓÛ×Ù
vtn : mu _gadlvaDa,ta _-palnpur,ijla- bnaska>#a,moba[l-ÛÛÔÖÙÙÙÔÚØ
ix9a : 0m _0 _
Vyvsay :srkarI nOkrI,sIpu yojna ivwag,palnpur me. isinyr KlkR|
p/kaixt puStke.:
Ó '_sa.kl'-khanI s.g/h
Ô _'nrk'-dilt khanI s.g/h
Õ '_rvex'-khanI s.g/h|
Ö _'w.Dairy.u'-dilt s.Smr
× '_bnaska>#a' ke saihTykaro. kI khainya>- 'kesUDa.'-s.padn|
Ø _ '_za>q=.'-khanI s.g/h,p/kaXy
purSkar-
Ó _'nrk' dilt khanI s.g/h ko-gujrat srkar samaijk Nyay AOr
Ai2kairta ivwag se svRp/4m'dasI jIv ' 0vaDR-sn\ ÔÒÒÕ
Ô _'sa.kl' khanI s.g/h pr-gujrat saihTy AkadmI,ga.2Ingr ka purSkar|
mu.b{ kla gUjRrI ka 'igra gUjRrI' purSkar|
Õ _'nrk'-dilt khanI s.g/h ko 'igra gUjRrI' purSkar|
Ö _'rvex'-khanI s.g/h pr gujratI saihTy pir8d,Ahmdabad ka purSkar|
-gujrat saihTy AkadmI ka purSkar|
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DI _0m _v kr : gEr-dilt saihTy AOr dilt saihTy me. mUl A.tr Kya hE?
2rmawa{ nagrdas &ImalI -dilt saihTy p/itb² AOr samaijk cetna ka
Aa.doilt saihTy hE| 0k soxl muvme.3 hE,jo k{ yugo. se ASp<Xyta se ib7D_e
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manv kI kXmkx khanI wI hE| [s khanI ka ASp<Xyta nabUd hone ke Alava
ko{ suqd ]pay AOr A.t wI nhI. hE| gEr-dilt qas krke sjRk kI injan.d.I
ka saihTy hE| ha>,]sme. samaijk km,biLk vEyiKtk smSya0> ho.gI ifrwI
ASp<Xyta ke Aage,dilt saihTy ke Aage gEr-dilt saihTy fIka -xu*k lgta
hE| 0k wle mnu*y ko dUsre mnu*y se Alg yain nIc smzne vale smaj me. se
Aane vale gEr-dilt saihTy-dilt saihTy ke samne ku7 nhI. hE|
p/Tyek wartIy saihTykar ka fjR bnta hE ik ASp<Xyta dUr krne vale
dilt saihTy kI Aavaj me. sur imla0>|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka Kya wiv*y hE?
2 _na _&ImalI-dilt saihTy ka wiv*y bhut ]Jjvl AOr AC7a hE| Aaj
deqo,swI p/a.to. se,[lako. se,raJyo. se dilt saihTy purjox se ilqa ja rha
hE AOr Aalocna wI AC7I trh se ho rhI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt saihTy ka wartIy smaj pr Kya p/wav pD_ rha hE?
2 _na _&ImalI : dilt saihTy se wartIy smaj me. hlcl sI mc g{ hE| jo
log b/aHm -binya-jagIrdar ke Alava saihTy me. dUsra ko{ smaj ya dxRn Aa
nhI. ske to raja-mharaja se Aage Aam jnta kI ko{ Aavaj wI nhI. 4I| ye
sb ip7D_e-dilt-pIiD_t smaj kI mUlwUt smSya se,pID_a se Avgt ho g0 hE.
AOr bhut ghra p/wav pD_ rha hE| Aa.doln-p/it Aa.doln clne lge hE.| juLm b!_ne
lge hE. AOr juLm ka ivro2 krne ko dilto. me. ihMmt wI b!_ne lgI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilt saihTy kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt
ma5 hE ya [ske smajopyogI ANy inihta4R wI hE.?
2 _na _&ImalI : ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt to hE hI,ik.tu [ske
Alava dilt smSyaAo. ko kEse sulzaya ja0- [ska dxRn wI dilt saihTy me.
imlta hE| kevl ]pe9a,Apman AOr pID_a kI AiwVyiKt se smaj kI smSya0>
hl nhI. hotI.-[n swI se Aage b!_kr nya raSta wI idqana hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya Aaj dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy me. tulnaTmk
A@yyn kI AavXykta hE? ha>,to ikn-ikn ibNduAo .pr?
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2 _na _&ImalI-ha>,AC7I trh se tulnaTmk A@yyn kI AavXykta hE| dilt
saihTy A.Tyj,ip7D_e-ASp<Xy smaj kI Aavaj hE jo vEiXvk smSya ke tOr pr
yh ghrI Aavaj hE| ye dUsro. ke ya to qud ilqne vale kI mOj-xOk ka
saihTy nhI. hE| injan.d ka saihTy nhI. hE| 0k manv dUsre manv ko ASp<Xy
kEse bna skta hE-smz skta hE AOr smaj se dUr rq skta hE? iviwNn
ib.duAo. se deqa ja0 to ye bhut bD_I AOr Amanui8k 63na0> 63tI ja rhI h.E| [se
Aajkl dilt saihTy AOr gEr-dilt saihTy kI tulna krke-A@Yyyn krke
shI idxa me. kdm b!_ana caih0| Aane vale idno. me. yh dilt saihTy 0k bD_e
Aa.doln ka +p le lega|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale dilto.
0v. nairyo. ko law hE ya nhI.?
2 _na _&ImalI : AwI [tnI jankarI kha> ho rhI hE| jb ix9a ke ma@ym se yh
malUm pD_ega to AvXy jag<it Aa0gI AOr law hoga hI| ifrwI khU>ga ik dilt
leqn se igir-k.draAo. 0v. ]pTykaAo. me. rhne vale dilt 0v. nairya> dilt
saihTy p!_kr ApnI samaijk soc ko b!_ane lge hE. v sCce !.g se smSyaAo. se
inp3ne lge hE.|
DI _0m _v kr : AwI AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg
man rhe hE.,[s s.b.2 me. Aapke ivcar Kya hE.?
2 _na _&ImalI : ye bhut duqd AOr socne valI bat hE| Aapka p/Xn ibLkul shI
hE| AaidvasI saihTykar dilt saihTy se Apne ko Alg man rhe hE.| 0klVy-
AaidvasI saihTy AkadmI jEse kayR Alg !.g se ho rhe hE.| qas krke Aapko
jankarI ho to-g ex devI-sUrt vlsaD kI Aor yh kr rhe hE.| p!_e-ilqe
AaidvasI dilto. se ASp<Xyta rqte hE.| AaidvasI Apne ko sv R smzte hE.| ve
ifr Kyo. [tnI jLdI se dilt saihTy se juD_e? mE. to cahta hU> ik AaidvasI
ApnI soc bdlkr dilt saihTykar ke sa4 imlkr Apna saihTy Aage b!_a0>|
DI _0m _v kr : saihTy ke sa4 dilt ivxe8 ko lekr ku7 log sval ]#ate
hE. ik saihTy kwI dilt nhI. hota| [s s.dwR me. Aapka m.tVy Kya hE?
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2 _na _&ImalI : logo. kI yh puranI soc 0ese 4oD_e hI bdlne valI hE| jb ko{
dilto. ke bare me. n bole,n soce,to dilto. kI ApnI pID_a,ApnI bat ApnI
klm se Apne smaj ke il0 lDe_ to [se dilt saihTy kI Alg phcan khI
janI j+rI hE| jEse ik is.2I saihTy,jEn saihTy,AaidvasI saihTy,kC7I
saihTy vEse Apna dilt saihTy|
p/Xn-Û dilto. me. Aaps me. jaitwed mOjUd hE,tb bahrI jaitwed ke iqlaf
ilqne ka Kya AOicTy hE?
2 _na _&malI : dilto. me. Aaps me. jEse qas krke v kr AOr cmar me. Jyada
jaitwed AOr 3krav hE| [sse nIce baiLmkI kI to bat hI 7oD_o| jEse-jEse
ixi9t hone lge hE.,Aaps me. jaitwed pane lge hE.| ifr wI Ahmdabad-ga.2Ingr ke
dilt saihTykar kwI-kwI imlkr AC7a kam kr rhe hE.| AOr Aaps me.
imlkr dilt saihTy AOr Aa.doln ko Aage b!_ate hE.| yh baba sahb A.beDkr
jI ka SvPn 4a|
DI _0m _v kr : dilt vgR me. dilt b/aHm 0k nya vgR pnp rha hE A4va
p!_e-ilqe dilto. Ka 0k ihSsa b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ka ixkar hE? Kya ]nkI
muiKt ka ko{ ]pay hE? ha>,to kOn ]pay?
2 _na _&ImalI : jo log srkarI Afsr bne hu0 hE.,suq-s.pNn hE.,ga>v 7oD_kr-
xhr me. #hre hu0 hE.,Apna b.gla hE,gaD_I hE,ha{-fa{ hE -ve dilt log sv R kI
Aor s.b.2 jtane me. ApnI [Jjt smzte hE.| ye log dilt b/aHm khlate hE.| muze
[nse saf nfrt hE| ye log b/aHm vadI VyvS4a ke ixkar hE.| jb sv R smaj
ka ASp<XytapU R va I-Vyvhar ka Anuwv hoga tb ]nkI soc qulegI| ya ifr
kalc¢ ifr Aa0ga ik ve log n rhe.ge dilto. me., n rhe.ge sv oR. me. | tb
imlkr ku7 bat bnegI| 0k bat smz le.- dilt wle }>ce Aohde pr ho.,sv R
smaj dilto. ko dilt hI smzta hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya dilto. ko 2mR-pirvtRn krne kI AavXykta hE? yid hE to
Aap iks 2mR ko Apnana ]ict mante hE. AOr Kyo.?
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2 _na _&ImalI-ha.,kwI lgta hE ik 2mR pirvtRn AavXyk hE,leikn 2mR pirvtRn
se ASp<Xyta n*3 nhI. hotI| ifr 2mR pirvtRn kEsa? Kyo. n hm ih.dU smaj kI
qoqlI jD_o. ko-jaitvad,v aR&m Aaid ko ih.dU 2mR me. rhkr 0k yo²a kI trh
qD_e rhkr mukabla n kre.? Aaiqr rmi ka guPta jI ke-yu²rt Aam AadmI to hE.
hm| yo²a kwI Apna S4an nhI. 7oD_ta| hme. wI ih.dU bnke ih.dU kI nSl ko,jo
hme. pID_a de rhI hE [se ka3nI hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Kya 2mR pirvtRn se dilto. ka ]²ar ho ja0ga?ha> to kEse AOr
na to 2mR pirvtRn ka Kya tkR hE?
2 _na _&ImalI- [ska ]%r ]pyuRKt p/Xn ke ]%r se juD_a hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI wI dilto. ka hI xo8 krte
hE hE.| [ske bare me. Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
2 _na _RImalI- Aar9 p/aPt rajneta AOr Ai2karI dUsre j+rtm.d dilt wa[yo. kI
wla{ ke il0 Aar9 ka law dUsrI bar nhI. lena caih0|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. ke A.tivRro2o. ko kEse dUr ikya ja skta hE?
2 _na _&ImalI-baba sahb ke sU5 ko yad kr hm sb dilt ko Apne A.tivRro2o.
ko wUlkr 0k hona caih0| ixi9t bno,s.gi#t bno AOr s.68R kro|
DI _0m _v kr : injIkr Üp/a[ve3a[jexnÝ se dilto. ko ko{ law imlega ya
nhI.?
2 _na &ImalI- injIkr se dilto. ko ko{ law imlne vala nhI. hE| srkarI
t.5 me. meir3 ke Alava,jnrlãsamaNy ke3egrI Kvo3e me. law nhI. imlta to
injIkr se kEse imlega?
DI _0m _v kr : "vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" kI bat krne vale gEr-dilt
saihTykar,smaj AOr 2mR me. [tnI ivs.gitya> Kyo. hE.?
2 _na _&ImalI -"vsu2Ev ku3.ubkm\" kevl khne-bolne kI bat hE| deqo, xhr me.
jo n{-n{ sosay3I,kalonI,Aavas bn rhe hE.,jakr ja>c kro ik wa{ mE. dilt
hU>,muze 6r caih0 bad me. deqna Kya p/itwav imlta hE| merI 0k AC7I khanI
hE-'p/vexµar',kwI p!_na| Apno. ko ko{ p/vex nhI. dene vala| jo log jait
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i7pakr AC7I sosay3I me. gye hE.,bad me. ]nka Kya hal huAa hE- n 6r ka,n
6a3 ka|
DI _0m _v kr : dilto. kI dynIyta ke il0 kOn ijMmedar hE- srkar,sv R
smaj ya qud dilt? [s bare me. Aap Kya khe.ge?
2 _na _&ImalI : srkar dilto. ke il0 p/yTn kr rhI hE,mgr [sme. Jyadatr vo3
bE.k kI bU Aane lgtI hE| sv R smaj to kwI dilto. ko pas Aane hI nhI.
deta| rha sval qud dilt ka,to dilt p!_-ilqkr- AC7I ix9a-VyvS4a se
Aage b!_kr hI }pr ]# skta hE| [Nhe. Apne bl-bUte pr,Apne pa>v pr qD_a hona
hE|
DI _0m _v kr : Aap 0k jane-mane saihTykar hE.| "mera wart mhan hE" -[s
sU5 se Aapka Kya Aiwp/ay hE?
2 _na _&ImalI- mE. ko{ jana-mana saihTykar nhI. hU>| mE. to kevl dilt smaj
se juD_a saihTy ilqta hU>| hm wart me. jI rhe hE.,pEda hu0 hE. to deqo dex ke
p/it mano 0k Aor se to "mera wart mhan hE"mano. Maan ilya,leikn dilto. ke
il0 to jb pUrI trh se ASp<Xyta n*3 hogI twI 'mera wart mhan' khla0ga
n|
DI _0m _v kr : ku7 rajneta bar-bar bolte hE. ik 'gvR se kho hm ih.dU hE.'-yha>
iks gvR kI bat hE?
2 _na _&ImalI : rajneta to bole.ge hI| pr hm kEse bol skte hE. ik 'gvR se
kho hm ih.dU hE.'-hm to ih.dU me. ib7uD_e hu0 dilt jait hE.-0k ih.dU dUsre ih.dU ko
SpxR krne se ASp<Xy ho jata hE| 0ese ih.dU ke il0 hm dilt kEse gvR se kh
skte hE. ik hm ih.dU hE.| muze to [sme ko{ gvR kI bat nhI. idqa{ detI|
DI _0m _v kr : sv R netaAo. ne imlkr srp.c se sa.sd tk ko k#putlI bna
ilya hE| [s s.b.2 me. Aapke Kya ivcar hE.?
2 _na _&ImalI : k#putlI to bna hI idya hE,pr hm dilt ixi9t logo. ko
baba sahb ko yad krke Aage b!_na hE| srp.c se sa.sd tk wle b!_o leikn
s.68R j+rI hE|
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smkalIn saihTy me. dilt saihTy ApnI vEcairk p/itb²ta AOr ivd/ohI Sv+p ko lekr wle hI ivvadaSpd rha ho,ik.tu yh bhut hI cicRt saihiTyk
iv2a ke +p me. ]wrkr Aaya hE| yh svRmaNy sTy hE ik ijs kOm AOr smaj
ka Apna saihTy hE,]s smaj AOr kOm ka Apna sMman hE,]skI ApnI
phcan hEE| wart me. b/aHm vgR ka ved,ramay ,mhawart Aaid Apna saihTy
hE,[s kar ]nka Apna sMman hE| jb tk dilto. ke pas Apna saihTy nhI.
4a to ]nka sMman wI nhI. 4a,]nkI ApnI ko{ phcan wI nhI. 4I AOr ve
smaj ke haix0 pr 4e| ved,gIta,ramay ka Aa&y lekr [s dex ke p/wuvgR kl
tk ijtna sMmaint 4e ]tna Aaj wI hE.| vh sMman wart dex ke bhujno. ko
[sil0 p/aPt nhI. huAa, Kyo.ik ]nka Apna saihTy nhI. 4a,ijsm.e ve ApnI
AiwVyiKt kr ske.,ApnI phcan kaym kr ske.| leikn jEse hI bhujno. ke ha4
me. ¢a.itsUyR Jyoitrav fule AOr baba sahb A.beDkr ka saihTy p/aPt huAa tb
bhujn smaj jag ]#a| ]se Apne hk AOr AiSmta ka bo2 huAa ijske il0 vh
s.68R krne ko tEyar huAa| yh jag<it 0k-do idn me. nhI. Aa{. biLk [ske il0
sidyo. ka smy lga AOr pIi!_ya. smaPt ho g{.|
Aix9a AOr A.2ivXvas ne wartIy dilt smaj ka bhut Aiht ikya hE|
bhujn smaj sidyo. se juLm,ATyacar 0v. xo8 Aaid ka ixkar rha hE,[ske
mUl me. ye hI kar 4e| [s vgR ke log [se ApnI inyit mankr shte cle Aa
rhe 4e, [sil0 ]Nho.ne p/itro2 ka Svr bul.d nhI. ikya AOr ]nkI iS4it me.
pirvtRn nhI. huAa| dilt vgR ke ]Nnayk dilto. ke msIha Daš _baba sahb
A.beDkr wI xo8 ke ixkar hu0 -yh svRividt hE| [sil0 Daš _ A.beDkr ne
Svt.5ta,smanta AOr b.2uta kI bat khI| ]Nho.ne yh mhsUs ikya ik dilt
smaj ko sbse bD_I AavXykta hE ]Nhe. Apne qoye hu0 Svaiwman AOr
AaTmsMman ka 0hsas krane kI,ik ve wI mnu*y hE.,[se smzane kI| dilt
smaj gulam bnkr pEda nhI. huAa 4a,ik.tu gulam bna idya gya| t4aki4t
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