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July 2017 Volume 31, Issue 7 Celebrating our 31st Year! Inside this issue: Next Event 1 President’s Message Officers & Board 2 SEGTOA Save the Date 3 Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge Recap 4,5 GTOAA 6 Tech Tips 7 Classifieds 8 Resources 9 Tiger Tales Next Event: Acworth Cruise-In Saturday July 29 Downtown Acworth 4 PM - ??

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Page 1: New Tiger Tales - Southeastern GTO Association Tales July 2017.pdf · 2018. 11. 2. · 67 GTO Older restoration. Montreux Blue, Factory air, PS, PB, original engine. Nice. $27,000

Southeastern GTO Association

...a chapter of the GTO Association of America

www.segtoa.org

Check Out SEGTOA on FACEBOOK

July 2017

Volume 31, Issue 7

Celebrating

our 31st

Year!

Inside this issue:

Next Event 1

President’s Message

Officers & Board 2

SEGTOA Save the Date

3

Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge Recap

4,5

GTOAA 6

Tech Tips 7

Classifieds 8

Resources 9

Tiger Tales

Next Event:

Acworth Cruise-In

Saturday July 29

Downtown Acworth

4 PM - ??

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2017

Officers &

Board Members

President

John Link

[email protected]

Treasurer

Larry Snyder

larrysnyder1594@hotmail.

com

Membership

Danny Finkelstein

[email protected]

Newsletter

Jim Andrews

jb6733andrews@

etcmail.com

Meetings

Ernie Stephens

[email protected]

Webmaster

Craig Dean

[email protected]

Board Members

Bob Immekus

[email protected]

Chuck Giraud

[email protected]

Steve Weisbarth

[email protected]

Chris McPherson

chrismcpherson218@

gmail.com

Mike Walling

mwalling@

leitransportation.com

President’s Message

As you receive this Newsletter, the GTOAA National Meet will be ending. And I missed it! I had planned to go, but life got in the way. Our Treasurer Larry Snyder and wife (Karen) were there to receive our 2017 Awards. Next year, the Nationals will be in Valley Forge, PA. Everyone should visit Valley Forge once, so make plans now.

Looking forward to the July Cruise-In in downtown Acworth. Always a fun afternoon and good places to have dinner. So come and get a group together for dinner. Have fun with your PONTIAC!

August is the lake Alatoona Picnic, free for members & guests. If anyone brings a dessert, I’ll try to not let it go to waste! To HECK with the waistline !!!

John Link

President

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SEGTOA—Save The Date!

2017 Events

June 26 – July 1 GTOAA Nationals – Springfield, Illinois

Saturday July 29 Acworth Cruise In - 4PM

Saturday August 5 SEGTOA Picnic — Red Top Mountain State Park

September Hubcaps & History — Old Downtown Marietta

October Tail of the Dragon overnight trip

December SEGTOA Christmas Party

Sort of late by this time, but just in case: Information on the GTOAA Nationals can be

found at http://www.gtoaa.org/nationals/. Hosted by the Gateway GTO Association.

The Acworth Cruise-In is our next official event. It only happens a few times a year.

Be there before 3PM if you want to park with the group. We’ll try to save you a spot!

Discussions will center around the picnic and Tail of the Dragon.

The Annual SEGTOA picnic is Saturday August 5 at Red Top Mountain State Park,

Shelter #7. This is the same location that we have had for the past 3 years. SEGTOA will

handle the cost for the food & drink through Williamson Bros BBQ. SEGTOA members

and their guests are welcome to bring their favorite picnic food to share with the group.

Please email me your RSVP's (yes or no) because we will need to finalize the food order

by a certain date. Please include how many in your party (member's name(s) and/or

family member or guest).

Hubcaps and History is a nice smaller show in Old Downtown Marietta. We usually get a

pretty good group at this show, and it’s always a good time.

The annual Tail of the Dragon overnight trip is shaping up for late October. We’ll provide

informational emails as the dates approach.

The picnic and Christmas party are the two biggest SEGTOA events of the year, and we’d like to see them get even bigger. The more people we can get at these events, the more

fun they are. The Tail of the Dragon overnight trip never disappoints, and we’d like to see a few more cars and people for that one as well. If you have any ideas for club

events, please shoot me an email!

Ernie Stephens

[email protected]

Events Coordinator

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June Recap:

Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge

Friday-Sunday, June 2-4

The initial weather forecasts didn’t look promising for the weekend, but it turned out

perfectly. 242 cars were in attendance, including a big group from SEGTOA:

George & Dempsey Christenberry - ‘62 Grand Prix

Tim & Katie Lawrence - ‘64 GTO

Tom & Linda Schmidt - ‘65 GTO

Jim & Terri Andrews - ‘67 GTO

Ernie, Stephanie, and Courtney Stephens - ‘67 GTO

Mike Walling - ‘67 GTO

Jim Norton - ‘67 GTO

Rufus Rollins - ‘61 Bonneville & ‘68 GTO

Some trailerd up and some drove the scenic route in their Pontiacs. All arrived safe and

sound, and a great time was had by all. SEGTOA members, as usual, took our share of

awards home with us. If you’ve never been to this show, we highly recommend it!

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Scenes from Pontiacs in Pigeon Forge

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Tech Tips: Gimme a Brake!

Currently working on replacing the front brakes (and lots of other parts) on a ’68 GTO, we had rebuilt the rear brakes (the parking brake wouldn’t work, and parts were missing) but the front brakes seemed fine.However, with more driving, there was less braking the longer the car was driven. Sounded like a heat build-up problem.

What I found was a mismatched rotor and caliper. A 1969 one piece rotor was paired with a 1968 four-piston caliper. The 1968 rotor was a 2 piece unit (rotor with separate hub). The 1968 caliper was rubbing on the 1969 rotor. NOT GOOD! The 4 piston caliper for ’68 had its own problems, even back-in-the-day.

How long it had been on there?

The correct ’68 rotor/hub is available, as is the caliper, but they’re very expensive, plus an additional $150.00 core charge for each wheel! The answer: a new Right Stuff Detailing Disk Brake wheel kit. A big cost savings! Everything in one kit, AND you are able to use a stock steel 14” wheel if you desire.

It’s not finished yet due to 50 year-old ball joints, lower control arm bushings, etc. Someday, I’ll do an article on how to remove a rusted on lower control arm bushing bolt using alignment spacers and a pickle fork. Not a pretty sight!

- John Link

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SEGTOA CLASSIFIEDS

‘67 GTO Parts for Sale

Gas tank

4 - G70-14 Wide Oval Red Line tires, bias-ply, off rims

Larry Greer

[email protected]

Wanted:

Standard steel wheel for spare. 15"x

6" or 15"x 7" to fit GTO bolt pattern.

Paul Sorrells (404) 702-3398

[email protected]

Cars for Sale

67 GTO Older restoration. Montreux Blue, Factory air, PS, PB, original engine. Nice. $27,000 67 GTO in primer. 455, turbo 350. New wiring harness and Big Disc setup available. $15,000 67 Tempest. OHC6, second owner. Parts to convert to Sprint (4bbl, dual exh.) $3000

74 Ventura 350/350, Factory Air, Power Steering $3500 63 Bonneville. Second owner. $5000

All prices negotiable after inspection.

Lee Lamb [email protected] 678-936-6481

Wanted: 1960s Vintage GTO

Rick Adams

[email protected]

404-797-4316

Parts Needed

66/67 AC Parts. Condenser with brackets, hoses, lower brackets for AC

radiator air deflectors.

Contact Ernie at [email protected]

For Sale:

Be Cool Aluminum Radiator P/N 62266

For ‘66-67 GTO Automatic up to 700 hp

Jim Beil - 602-377-3547

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GTO Parts & Services Sources Thank You to Jeremiah Riggio, Bob Mohalley, and Jim Racela for tracking down some useful on-line sources for GTO parts and services. Hopefully these will prove useful to you in keeping your GTO looking like a proper time machine!

General Info http://www.oldride.com/library/pontiac_gto.html http://ultimategto.com/cgi-bin/statsexplorer.cgi?year=1968&f1=vinmatrix Carbs http://www.scgg.com/carbs.html http://www.carburetion.com/quadnumber.htm Engines & Heads http://www.spottsperformance.com/engineid.htm Radios http://www.wonderbarman.com/codes.html Wheels http://www.pontiacserver.com/wheels.html#rally2 Pontiac Tripower http://www.pontiactripower.com/catalog/1965-tripower Pontiac Literature

http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=191

Engine Color Reference

http://www.pontiacpower.org/enginecolor.htm

From member Jim Racela:

The first link is a listing of copies of original brochures for classic cars. The 2nd is a link to an

example, in this case a PDF file of the available accessories and prices for 1966 Pontiac full car

line. (Aside to John Link: Sorry buddy, but there isn't anything listed under the 1969 Buick category!

Darn!)

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-bin/pub9990289237970.cgi?categoryid=9990289238012

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/

AardvarkPublisherAttachments/9990414098658/1966_Mini_Accessorizer_Catalog.pdf

Resources

From club member Ernie Stephens:

SEGTOA members have the opportunity to join the North Georgia Car Club ngautoclub.com. The

club was formerly known as the Lockheed Martin Auto Club. Lockheed Martin is no longer affiliated

with the club and it now operates as a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC). North Georgia Auto Club is

located on Atlanta Road, Marietta Georgia and it features three (3) work bays, an extensive tool

collection, tire changer, tool check out opportunity, 3 phase air compressor, brake change

rack, and oil change rack. New membership dues are only $75.00 annually!

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Tiger Tales is published monthly by the Southeastern GTO Association.

SEGTOA is a chapter of the GTO Association of America (www.gtoaa.org), the premier organization for GTO enthusiasts. Each month GTOAA members receive The Legend magazine, a Golden Quill Award Winning publication. SEGTOA is also associated with Pontiac Oakland Club International (www.poci.org). POCI members receive their monthly magazine Smoke Signals.

SEGTOA is an organization dedicated to the survival of the Pontiac GTO, LeMans, and other classic Pontiacs. SEGTOA is open to anyone who shares our common interest in GTOs and other Pontiacs. We enjoy monthly Chapter meetings, including cruises, car shows, picnics, technical sessions and other fun activities. Our members hail from four different states! Members and their spouses, significant others and children are invited and encouraged to attend each monthly club function.

Club Membership Dues Dues are $20 per year, payable January 1st each year. New members receive a $10 discount on membership their first year. SEGTOA dues requirements are waived for all active military. Membership in GTOAA and/or POCI is required for all members joining after 2007. Members must be in good standing to attend meetings, with the option to bring their membership up to date at any scheduled meeting.

Membership application is available on the SEGTOA website.

Checks should be made payable to Southeastern GTO Association and mailed to Larry Snyder, 1594 Greyson Ridge, Marietta, GA 30062-7203

SEGTOA Technical Advisory Panel

The members listed below have volunteered to share their special knowledge with other

members. Please feel free to contact these involved members.

1964 Doug Askew [email protected] 706-453-2234

1965 Jerry Hamilton [email protected] 706-754-3194 (home)

1966 Bob Immekus [email protected] 770-686-4592 (cell)

1967 Steve Pullen [email protected] 404-402-4917 (cell)

1968 Ed Bellair [email protected] 770-826-2534 (cell)

1969 John Link [email protected] 404-578-8973 (cell)

1970 Kenny Simpson [email protected] 770-277-1626 (home)

1971-1974 BJ Benton [email protected] 678-414-7135 (cell)

2004-2006 Paul McGinnett [email protected] 770-653-0365 (home)