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06 Dec, 2017 ASSEMBLY DEBATES

NANDI COUNTY ASSEMBLY

OFFICIAL REPORT

Wednesday, 6th December, 2017

The House met at 2:30 pm

The Speaker (Hon. Joshua Kiptoo) in the Chair

PRAYER

QUORUM

Hon. Speaker: Clerk confirm if the quorum is sufficient.

(The Clerk confirmed that quorum was not sufficient)

Hon. Speaker: Kindly ring the bell to notify the other Members.

(The bell was rung)

(The Clerk confirmed that quorum was sufficient)

PAPER LAID

FACILITY LEVEL LEADERSHIP AND GOVERNANCE POLICY GUIDELINES

Hon. Sanga: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the facility level leadership and governance

policy guidelines. Hon. Members, currently, dispensaries and referral hospitals are electing the

management boards. I have the guideline with me, copies will be given to all of you. Nurses in

charge have been informed to liaise with you Hon. Members so that you can be involved in

selection of the committee members of dispensaries and referral hospital. Thank you. I beg to table.

MOTIONS

ADOPTION OF NANDI COUNTY ASSEMBLY SERVICE BOARD REPORT ON

APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS OF PUBLIC TO SERVE IN THE NANDI COUNTY

ASSEMBLY SERVICE BOARD

Hon. Komen: Thank you Mr. Speaker, I stand to move a Motion that this County Assembly adopts

the report of County Assembly Service Board on successful applicants to serve in Nandi County

Assembly Service Board tabled on the floor of the House on 6th December 2017. I will read the

report;

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On behalf of Members of Nandi County Assembly Service Board and pursuant to section 12 of

County Government Act, 2012, it is my pleasure and duty to present to this House, the Board’s

report on the interview for the appointment of two members (man and woman) of Nandi County

Assembly Service the Board.

Membership of Nandi County Assembly service board upon commencement of Second County

Assembly is currently constituted of the following members:-

1. Hon. Joshua Kiptoo – Speaker of the Assembly (Chairperson)

2. Hon. Osborn Komen – Representative from Majority Party (Vice Chairperson)

3. Hon. Eliud Kirongo – Representative from Minority Party

4. Mrs. Isabella Maiyo – Secretary

Mandate; the County Assembly Service Board is established under section 12(1) of the County

Government Act, 2012, and the County Assembly Service’s Act, 2017, which provides that, there

shall be a County Assembly Service Board for each County Assembly.

The County Assembly Service Board duties is as indicated in the report.

In the nomination of the Members of the Board to County Assembly Service Board, the Nandi

County Assembly Service Board pursuant to Article 10 of the Constitution advertised the positions

on 15th September 2017 in both the Standard and Daily Nation Newspapers. A total of 46

candidates applied for the position as indicated below:-

1) Abraham Kiprop Mulwo

2) Wilson K. Ngetich

3) Issa K.Songok

4) Daniel K.Kirwa

5) Gilbert Kipkorir Biwott

6) Esther Jepkosgei Bett

7) Edward K.Boor

8) Samuel Kiplagat Biwott

9) Ezekiel K.Kiyeny

10) Edwin Cheruiyot Maiyo

11) Catherine Changwony

12) Ernest Kipsumei Yegoh

13) Irene Jepkemboi

14) CPA Metha Lyoid Kaburu

15) Felicity Irene Magut

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16) Simeon Ngeny Kiptum

17) Rose Jepkosgei Kogo Chemokos

18) Benjamin Kiptoo Tanui

19) Irene Jepkorir Choge

20) Julius Kipsigey Rono

21) Bethuel Sugut

22) Kizito Kipkorir Tororey

23) Doreen Jepkemboi

24) Abraham Chepkwony

25) Solomon K.Mibey

26) Philemon Kipkoech Yegon

27) Douglas Oyamo Rambugu

28) Sarah Rubety Keino

29) Felix K.Maiyo

30) Jeremiah Kipketer Rutto

31) Samson Kiprop Keter

32) Pacifica Chepkosgei Mining

33) Stellah C.Rutto

34) Elias K Cheruiyot

35) Rose Jepleting Boit

36) Obed Limo Kipkemboi

37) Stephen Kipkoech Kittur

38) Hosea Sitienei Kipkemboi

39) Ezekiel Kiplimo Chemwor

40) Benjamin Kiprono Kutto

41) Jimmy Kiplimo Sang’utei

42) Consolata Rop

43) Ezekiel Kipkesio Mengech

44) Everlyne Chepkoech

45) Viola Chepkemboi Chumba

46) Josphat Kipchumba Tarbei

Those are the 46 candidates all their ID numbers are indicated in the report except for one.

The Board held meetings during which the said applicants were shortlisted, appeared before the

Board and they were interviewed in accordance with the Public Appointments (Parliamentary

Approval) Act No.33 of 2011 and taking into account the constitutional provisions of good

governance.

May I take this opportunity to thank all Members of the Board for their input and valuable

contributions made during the deliberations and interviewing of the applicants. I also wish to thank

all the applicants who appeared before the board for interview.

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The report has been signed by the Chairman of Nandi County Assembly Service Board Hon.

Joshua Kiptoo, Speaker of the Assembly on 4th of December 2017.

On background establishment of Service Board, Section 12(2) of County Government Act, 2012

and the County Assembly Service’s Act, 2017, provides that the County Assembly Service Board

shall be a body corporate with perpetual succession and a common seal and shall consist of-

(a) The Speaker of the County Assembly as the chairperson;

(b) A Representative from the majority party as the vice chairperson;

(c) A Representative from the minority party; and

(d) Two members of the public (one man and one woman), appointed by the County Assembly

from among persons who have knowledge and experience in public affairs, but who are not

Members of the County Assembly.

(e) The County Assembly Clerk shall be the secretary to the County Assembly Service Board

The mandate of County Assembly Service Board is to consider for approval by the House

appointments of members of the Board. Section 7(10) of the Public Appointments (Parliamentary

Approval) Act No.33 of 2011, provides that, where the nomination of a candidate is rejected by

Assembly, the appointing authority may submit to the relevant House the name of another

candidate and the procedure for approval specified in this Act shall apply accordingly.

Appointment process of the members to County Assembly Service Board, the advert to the post

of Nandi County Assembly Service Board member was made advertised in the standard newspaper

dated 15th September 2017.

The Board considered the qualifications and public sector experience of the applicants and

competitively shortlisted a total of seventeen applicants (nine men and eight women). The

shortlisted candidates were invited for interview via the Daily Nation and Standard Newspapers.

The shortlisted candidates appeared before the County Assembly Service Board as indicated in the

report. It should be noted that since Tuesday 28th November 2017 was declared a public holiday

for the President’s swearing-in ceremony, the interviews scheduled for that day were rescheduled

to Friday 1st December 2017.

The Board set the following as the basic requirements for appointment;

That the candidate must be a Kenyan citizen and must be a resident of Nandi County, have

knowledge and over 10 years’ experience in public affairs, hold at least a Bachelor’s degree from

a University recognized in Kenya and meet the requirements of leadership and integrity as set out

in Chapter 6 of the Constitution of Kenya 2010.

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While conducting the interviews, the Board observed the following among others in awarding

marks, in accordance with the Public Appointments (Parliamentary Approval) Act.No.33 of 2011;

academic qualifications, employment record, professional affiliations, potential conflict of

interest, knowledge on the relevant subject, overall suitability for the position that is general

presentation, appearance, courtesy, etiquette, composure, communication skills and knowledge

and experience in public affairs.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to inform the House that neither memoranda nor sworn affidavit was submitted

to the board in respect to the shortlisted candidates, this gave the Board the positive image on the

perception of the public against the candidates in respect to integrity issues.

The Board in its process was guided by the following constitutional principles; high standard of

professional ethics, transparency and provision to the public of timely, accurate information and

affording adequate and equal opportunities for appointment, and advancement to; both men and

women, members of all ethnic groups and persons with disabilities.

The committee was further guided by principles of good governance as set out under Article 10 of

the Constitution of Kenya, 2010.

During its sittings held on Wednesday 29th November 2017, Thursday 30th November 2017 and

Friday 1st December 2017, at the Committee room at County Assembly precincts, the candidates

were first categorized into male and female candidates. The observations and recommendations in

respect to each shortlisted candidate are as provided herein under:-

Female candidates were eight and the first is Felicity Irene Magut the identification number is as

indicated. Mrs. Felicity Irene Magut appeared before the Board for interview on Friday 1st

December 2017 at 11:25 am and was taken through oral interview. Academic qualification is as

indicated. She has a Degree in psychological counselling (Mt. Kenya University) the work

experience is as indicated.

The Board observed that the candidate was not the most suitable for appointment to the post of

Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position three out of

eight candidates. Pursuant to section 12(3) (d) of County Government Act, 2012 and County

Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs.

Felicity Irene Magut for appointment.

The second lady was Mrs. Rose J. Kogo Chemogos who appeared before the Board for interview

on Thursday 30th November 2017 at 3:00 pm and was taken through oral interview. Personal

details, academic qualification, work experience is as indicated in the report.


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position seven out of

eight candidates. Pursuant to section 12(3) (d) of County Government Act,2012 and County

Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs. Rose

J. Kogo Chemogos for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of

Nandi County Assembly Service Board member.

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We go to the third, Mrs. Sarah Rubety Keino who appeared before the Board for interview on

Wednesday 29th November 2017 at 12:00 noon and was taken through oral interview. Personal



Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position eight out of


Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs. Sarah

Rubety Keino for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi

County Assembly Service Board member.

The next candidate was Mrs. Pacifica Chepkosgei Mining who appeared before the Board for

interview on Wednesday 29th November 2017 at 10:20 am and was taken through oral interview.

Personal details, academic qualification, work experience is as indicated in the report.

The Board observed that the candidate was not the most suitable for the appointment so the post

of Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position five out of


Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs.

Pacifica Chepkosgei Mining for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant

post of Nandi County Assembly Service Board member.

The next one is Mrs. Rose Jepleting Boit. She appeared before the Board for interview on

Wednesday 29th November 2017 at 10:20 am and was taken through oral interview. Personal



Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position five out of eight

candidates. Pursuant to section 12(3) (d) of County Government Act, 2012 and County Assembly

Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs. Rose Jepleting

Boit for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi County

Assembly Service Board member.

The next was Mrs. Viola Chepkemboi Chumba. She appeared before the Board for interview on

Thursday 30th November 2017 at 2:10 pm and was taken through oral interview.




Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs. Viola

Chepkemboi Chumba for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post

of Nandi County Assembly Service Board member.

The next candidate is Mrs. Stella C. Rutto who appeared before the Board for interview on

Wednesday 29th November 2017 at 3:00 pm and was taken through oral interview. The Board

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made the following observation; personal details, academic qualification, work experience is as

indicated in the report.


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position two out of eight


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mrs. Stella C. Rutto

for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi County


The next candidate is Ms. Irene Jepkorir Choge of ID. No 13807926. Ms. Irene Jepkorir Choge

appeared before the Board for interview on Friday 1st December 2017 at 3:00 pm and was taken

through oral interview. The board made the following observations; Date of Birth: 1976, Ward:

Kosirai. Academic Qualification. Ongoing Doctorate degree in Philosophy English Language

(Moi Uni.), Master’s Degree of Philosophy in Education (Community Tech.) Bachelors Education

English Lit (Moi Uni.) KCSE B-. Work Experience: 2013 to date Senior Graduate Teacher (Kaiboi

Technical Institute), 2011-2013 Senior Graduate Teacher (Holy Rosary Girls) and 2002-2011

Graduate Teacher (Chemuswa Secondary School)

The Board observed that the candidate is suitable for appointment to the post of Member of County

Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position one out of eight candidates. She

demonstrated vast knowledge and experience in public affairs with excellent knowledge of the

public affairs of the County Assembly touching on both the staff and MCA’s matters. She was

precise in her responses and remained well composed. She came out as an explorative person ready

to try new ventures and portrays a character of a person with high level of commitment. Pursuant

to section 12(3) (d) of County Government Act, 2012 the Board recommends that this House do

approve Ms. Irene Jepkorir Choge for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the

vacant post of Nandi County Assembly Service Board as female representative.

On the male candidates for member of County Assembly Service Board, we had Wilson K.

Ng’etich of ID. No. 8591928. He appeared before the Board for interview on Friday 1st December

2017 at 11:25am and was taken through oral interview. The board made the following

observations; Personal details Name: Wilson K. Ng’etich. Date of Birth: 1967. ID No: 8591928.

Ward: Koiyo /Ndurio. Academic Qualification; Bachelor of Commerce (Kenyatta Uni.), Diploma

in Management (Kenyatta Uni.), ANC Stage I&II (Thika Technical College) and KCSE Division

IV. Work Experience; 2013-2016 MCA (Nandi County Assembly), 1991-1996 Accountant

(Kenya National Assurance) and 1997-2012 Accountant (AIC Chebisaas).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position nine out of nine


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Wilson K.

Ng’etich for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


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Issa K. Songok of ID. No. 5613340. Mr. Issa K. Songok appeared before the Board for interview

on Tuesday 28th November 2017 at 2.00 pm and was taken through oral interview. The Board

made the following observations; Date of Birth: 1963, ID No: 5613340. Ward: Kapsabet.

Academic Qualification; Bachelor of Education Arts (Mt. Kenya Uni.), Diploma in Education

(Kenya Education Management Institute), Certificate PI (Kigari Teachers Training College) and

KCE O Level. Work Experience; 2011 to date part time lecturer (Mt. Kenya Un.), 2011-2017 Head

Teacher (Kapsabet Muslim) and 1989-2011 Teacher (Nandi County).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position eight out of

nine candidates. Pursuant to section 12(3) (d) of County Government Act, 2012 and County

Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Issa K.

Songok for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


Samson Kiprop Keter of ID. No. 13016564. Mr. Samson Kiprop Keter appeared before the Board

for interview on Tuesday 28th November 2017 at 2.00 pm and was taken through oral interview.

The board made the following observations; Date of Birth: 1972, ID No: 13016564, Ward:

Kapsabet. Academic Qualification: Bachelor of Education Science (Mt. Kenya University),

Diploma in Education (Kenya Education Management Institute), Diploma in Special Needs

Education (Kenya Institute of Special Education), PTE (Tambach TTC) and KCSE C+. Work

Experience: 2009 to date Head teacher (Simteret Primary).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position seven out of


Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Samson

K. Keter for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


Douglas Oyamo Rumbugu of ID. No. 21773669. Mr. Douglas Oyamo Rumbugu appeared before

the Board for interview on Tuesday 28th November 2017 at 2:00 pm and was taken through oral

interview. Date of Birth: 1979. ID No: 21773669. Ward: Kaptumo. Academic qualification:

Bachelor of Education (Maseno University), Certificate in Test & Evaluation (KEMI &KNEC

Training) and KCSE B-.Work Experience: currently Teacher at St. Mark Kaptumo, 2012 to date

Examiner (KNEC) and 2014 to date Academic Coordinator (Nandi Sub-County).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position six out of nine


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Douglas O.

Rumbugu for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


Ezekiel Kiplimo Chemwor of ID. No. 22995310. He appeared before the Board for interview on

Thursday 30th November 2017 at 10:00 am and was taken through oral interview. Date of Birth:

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1983, ID No: 22995310. Ward: Terik. Academic Qualification: Master’s Degree in Education

(Nelson Mandela University), Bachelor of Education (Moi University), PI Certificate (Mosoriot

TTC) and KCSE C+. Work Experience: Currently Teacher (Banja Pry Sch.), 2014-2016 Teacher

Kapkerer Primary School, 2013-2014 Teacher (Furaha Academy), 2009-2013 Teacher (Kipkeino

School) and 2007-2008 Teacher (Steward Light Sch.).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position five out of nine


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Ezekiel K.

Chemwor for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


Jeremiah Kipketer Rutto of ID. No. 3622130. He appeared before the Board for interview on

Thursday 30th November 2017 at 10:00 am and was taken through oral interview. The Board made

the following observations; Date of Birth: 1960. ID No: 3622130. Ward: Kabiyet, Academic

Qualification: Ongoing Master’s degree in Ethics & Governance (Mt. Kenya University),

Bachelor’s degree in Education (Moi University), Diploma in Education (Kagumo College) and

KACE. Work Experience: Currently Chairman of County Land Management Board, 2014 to date,

Chairman Board of Management (Mosoriot TTC), 2009-2012 Director Chemelil Sugar Company

and1988-2001 Teacher Secondary School.


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position four out of nine


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Jeremiah K. Rutto



Next is Mr. Jimmy Kiplimo Sang’utei. He appeared before the Board for interview on Thursday

30th November 2017 at 12.00 pm and was taken through oral interview. Date of Birth: 1978. ID

No: 20148679. Ward: Kilibwoni Academic Qualification: Masters of Business Administration-

Finance (Kenyatta University), Bachelor of Education Electricals &Electronics (Moi University),

Post graduate Diploma in HRM (Moi University). Work Experience: 2014 to date Lecturer

(Ol’Lessos TTI), 2008-2013 Graduate Teacher (St. Barnabas Sec Sch.), 2002-2008 Teacher

(Lelwak Boys), 2014 to date Lecturer (Kisii University), 2012 to date Lecturer (KIM), 2012

Lecturer (Baraton College) and 2008-2013 Lecturer (CITC).




Assembly Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Jimmy

K. Sang’utei for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi


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Elias K. Cheruiyot of ID. No. 11167753. Mr. Elias K. Cheruiyot appeared before the Board for

interview on Thursday 30th November 2017 at 09:00 am and was taken through oral interview.

Date of Birth: 1972, ID No: 11167753, Ward: Kobujoi. Academic Qualification: ongoing M.Phil.

English (Moi University), Bachelor of Education (Moi University), Diploma Education (KEMI)

and KCSE C+. Work Experience: 2016 to date Principal (Kimaren Sec Sch.), 2004-2016 Principal

(AIC Bonjoge Boys), 1999-2003 Deputy Principal (AIC Chebisaas Girls), 1996-1998 Assistant

Teacher (Serem Secondary School).


Member of County Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position two out of nine


Service Act, 2017, the Board recommends that this House does not approve Mr. Elias K. Cheruiyot



Dr. Abraham Kiprop Mulwo of ID. No. –21031214. Dr. Abraham Kiprop Mulwo appeared before

the Board for interview on Tuesday 28th November 2017 at 09:00 am and was taken through oral

interview. Date of Birth: 1977, ID No: 21031214 and Ward: Kaptel. Academic Qualification: PhD.

Cultural & Media Studies (University of Kwazulu-Natal South Africa), M.Phil. Communication

studies (Moi University), Bachelor of Arts Language & Literary Studies (Moi University) and

KCSE B. Work Experience: 2014 to date Senior Lecturer, 2010-2014 Lecturer (Moi University)

2005-2010 Tutorial Fellow (Moi University), Assistant Lecturer (Moi University) and in 2008

Researcher (CADRE, UNESCO).

The Board observed that the candidate is suitable for appointment to the post of Member of County

Assembly Service Board on merit for having emerged position one out of nine candidates. He was

very knowledgeable on the County Assembly procedures cutting across both public and state

officers. He demonstrated precise application of strategies to implement in the Assembly from

media, communications to public participation. He also has a wealth of experience at management

level having chaired and transformed similar management boards. Pursuant to section 12(3) (d) of

County Government Act, 2012, the Board recommends that this House do approve Dr. Abraham

Kiprop Mulwo for appointment by the County Assembly Service Board to the vacant post of Nandi

County Assembly Service Board as the male representative.

The Board members have affixed their signatures in support of the report.

Mr. Speaker sir, attached to this report is the newspaper advert for shortlisting of the post of

Member of County Assembly Service Board. The minutes of the Board are readily available at the

office of the Clerk. I beg to move. I call upon Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony to second.

(Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony bowed to second)

(Question proposed)

(Hon. Koech Gideon on a point of order)

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Hon. Koech Gideon: I seek to inquire if Hon. Kipkurui is in order to second a report he is not

party to?

Hon. Speaker: I find no offence from the Standing Order, it was upon request to second.

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mimi siungi mkono ripoti hii. Hii ni kwasababu hawana habari. Hatuoni jambo

lolote. Rose Chepleting walisema wanaona hataweza. Kama kuna jambo alishindwa tujue. Nani

alisema mtu akiongea vizuri anajua kufanya kazi. Kuna watu hawajui kuongea lakini wanafanya

kazi vizuri. Tusipitishe hii. Warudie. Lazima mtupatie habari ya vile walifanya kwenye mahojiano.

Si lazima mwalimu apate kazi hii, hao wana kazi. Kenya ina watu wengi waliosoma hao wapewe

twende mbele. Mtu ameajiriwa anapata mshahara elfu sabini kwa mwezi kisha tumpe kazi

nyingine. Mbona mtu akae miaka kumi bila kazi? Apewe. Irine Chepkorir hana kibali cha polisi

ameleta risiti tu. Labda ana makosa. Tunataka mtu mwenye ana kibali mwafaka.

Tunataka kuona vyeti na maelezo kwanini walipata alama hizo wamepewa. Tulisema tutatenda

haki. Jonathan Tirop, hana cheti, hakuwa tayari---

Hon. Spika: Simfahamu mtu huyo.

Hon. Kipkemboi: Ni Abraham Mulwo. Kuanzia tarehe mbili mwezi wa kumi cheti chake si halali.

hatujui kama yuko sawa. Nikiomba kura, niliambiwa wanataka cheti mpya, nikapeleka. Wakati

ule mwingine mtu alikuwa ananunua kazi, wakati huu hatutaki. Tuangalie vizuri, Irene Chepkorir

hana kibali kutoka kwa Tume ya Maadili na Kupambana na Ufisadi. Ni hayo tu.

Hon. Rono Emmanuel: Before I do that, I wish to confirm how many candidates were

interviewed. Is it eight or nine? I wish to confirm that from Hon. Komen. How many? Eight or

nine?

Hon. Komen: Through the Speaker we had eight female candidates and nine male candidates.

Hon. Rono Emmanuel: So on that note Hon. Speaker, as Hon. Fred has said, I have tried going

through this report and I am a little dismayed by the report itself. Hon. Komen, I am wondering

why this statement is a lazy observation. From candidate one to the last for those who did not

qualify, this copy pasted statement is the laziest that I have ever seen. As Hon. Fred has said, it is

a blanket condemnation of those who did not qualify and carries no value to this House. I would

have wished to see the grading, the parameters that you used to judge the candidates. As the

observation say, the board observed that the candidate was not the most suitable for appointment

to the post of Member of County Assembly Service Board. On merit for having emerged position

eight out of eight candidates. What does it say? We want to see that candidate A did not qualify

because of this reason and that reason. In fact I am not going to continue further.

Hon. Murrey: Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. I also want to echo what my fellow colleagues

have already said. It is like the interview was actually more of subjective rather than being

objective because like Hon. Rono Emmanuel has told us is that we have not been given parameters.

The values which were actually used to arrive at those conclusions. So Mr. Speaker, the other time

I was reading the score card of the results of an interview of VC’s of Moi University and we were

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given percentages awarded by each panelist but when it comes to this there is nothing like that.

So, I also want to say that if you look at all these candidates, all of them according to me are

qualified. Not unless we are given those percentages which were, I mean the parameters used to

award marks from number one to number nine or one to eight. So Mr. Speaker, at this juncture I

must say that I do not support this report. Thank you.

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Members before you proceed, let me say something. I happen to be the chair

of the committee so I can be able to speak up about the same. Number one, as noted by the Hon.

Members the missing piece of the work is the entire work that we did. I can confirm number one

that you will get the figures of each and every of the persons.

Number two, maybe the person that moved did not give the idea that we had 56 and dropped it

down to 19 and again we will have to give the basis for getting to that. Number three, we will also

give the raw transcript of each and every of the member. So I want to assume the Members are

asking for the raw data. When we undertook the Selection Committee for the CEC’s I remember

the same concern of the House that were whatever they would want was the final thing. So I would

acknowledge the absence of the entire scripts which I think the Committee can confidently and

comfortably be able to produce before the House. Remember, when it comes to vetting or when it

comes to interviewing, do not think that we sat in a corner and it was a case of someone comes

talks goes marks are given. Not at all. We did three days of interviews running and after three days

of interviews we proceeded for another three days of writing the report but we did it within two

days. So what is absent from the report is the raw fact sheet of the same.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you. Hon. Speaker, in view of the sentiments that you have

put forward pertaining this list I also share in the sentiments by the Hon. Member for Ol’Lessos

that the Committee that you chaired, Committee on Appointments, the report was well done

because that report gave us the standards that were set by the Committee on Appointments before

the CEC’s appeared before that Committee and thereafter the awarding of marks and grading was

availed which you have said that it is---

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Chepkwony, I think we never availed marks for the Committee on

Appointments. What we availed was the score cut that each of the CEC’s was to get out of 70.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Yes.

Hon. Speaker: The Majority Leader can confirm that. The difference between our report and the

CEC report, the missing tip is the content in terms of explaining to the Members. The Majority

Leader can comment.

Hon. Koech David: The other one was about vetting. This one was an interview. We were just

vetting a candidate but this is a different case. I understand why Members are asking for the same,

it is because we are comparing several candidates. I think that might be the difference. Thank you.

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Hon. Speaker: Fair enough Majority Leader. Well captured.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you. The issue that was brought forth by the Hon. Member

for Ol’Lessos was the issue of the absence of the raw data that you have indicated that it is

available. So from where I sit I would feel the importance of having that raw data to inform the

Hon. Members so that any judgment on the results of this interview will not be seen and viewed

by Members like the Hon. Member for Ol’Lessos has said that it is a copy and paste.

Clearly, I would have felt the importance of having it. It is even shocking what the Hon. Member

for Kapsabet has indicated. The document that is attached by one Irene Choge on the EACC which

is going back to 2013. So Hon. Speaker, probably there exists in the files another document, an

updated version or an updated report from EACC about her. So we would not want to judge that

based on what we have here because if we were to base on what we have here, Hon. Speaker then

the issue of adopting this list might be a challenge.

(Hon. Rono Emmanuel on a point of order)

Hon. Rono Emmanuel: Now that Hon. Speaker you have hinted that other information can be

availed, is it in order for us to continue discussing this report without that information?

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Member before you stood I wanted to rule on the same but I would give Hon.

Robert Kirwa to state a word.

Hon. Kirwa: Asante sana Mhe. Spika. Maoni yangu ni kwamba tuhairishe hoja hadi kikao

kifwatacho kwa sababu hatukuzingatia nidhamu.

Hon. Maiyo Teresa: Thank you Hon. Speaker. Initially when I looked at the scores and the

experiences depicted by the successful candidate, I saw that there was some work that was actually

done and that it was not all that bad work. But looking at the requirements, I have tried to look at

the advert on what was necessary to attach on the list. It really beats logic how someone I know,

at times the police clearance may take time but this one of EACC honestly beats logic. The other

time we said that any report before it is tabled here in the House, let the one tabling own it first so

that at least we do not keep on moving forth and back in any report. Thank you.

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Members due to fore going I would rather before we pre-empt on the same,

I would wish to rule that, the mover of the Motion together with the clerks at the table can liaise

with the Human Resource office to provide necessary information so that the same can be tabled

again. So the debate will continue.

(Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony on a point of order)

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Hon. Speaker, proceeding to the next order. I think probably you

would have given procedural guidance on the Motion that we were discussing.

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Hon. Speaker: I have stated that the Motion will have differed the putting into question of the

same simply because I would wish the House to vigorously debate but the House seems

constrained due to the fact that there is need for report. What the House has asked for is factual

information. In this sense, they have asked for the markings, how the same was made and all that.

So because of that I have differed the putting of question and allowing the same discussion so that

the same can be done and be brought before the House.

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mhe. Spika, hata kama hiyo habari itatolewa Mhe. Spika kuna hii habari

ambayo umeandika hapa, itaonyesha ya kwamba ilikuwa uwongo mtupu Mhe. Spika. Kwa sababu

kamati waliona hivyo. sasa wataleta ripoti gani Mhe. Spika?

Hon. Speaker: Mhe. Kipkemboi, habari ambayo tunaleta si tofauti. Ni habari ambayo inafaa

iambatanishwe kwa sababu swali ambalo waheshimiwa wameuliza ni je, Kamati iliafikiana vipi

hadi wakasema ya kwamba huyu ni wa kwanza, huyo ni wa pili. Kwa hivyo si habari mpya. Ni

habari ya kuonyesha kuwa ni nini sababu ya ripoti hii na hayo yote yanafaa yaambatanishwe na

ripoti hii.

ADOPTION OF THE LIST OF MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THE SPEAKER’S PANEL

Hon. Koech David: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I wish to move the Motion that this County Assembly

adopts the list of Members to serve in Speaker’s panel, tabled on the floor of the House on 5th

December 2017.

Aware that Standing Order No. 16 establishes the position for Members of Speaker’s panel, further

aware that the Standing Order no. 16(2) requires the Speaker upon consultation with the leaders of

Assembly political parties submits a list of three Members for consideration and approval by the

House, pursuant to Standing Order No. 16, this House adopts the following Members by Speaker

to serve in the Speaker’s panel:-

1. Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony

2. Hon. Clara Chepkemei

3. Hon. Nancy Chemutai

I wish to move. Thank you. I kindly ask Hon. Kirongo, the Minority Leader to second.

(Hon. Kirongo bowed to second)

(Question proposed)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Asante sana Mhe. Spika. Nashukuru sana kwa wale wamechaguliwa. Mhe.

Kipkurui Chepkwony, Mhe. Clara Chepkemei na Mhe. Nancy Chemutai wanaweza kazi hiyo.

Lakini naona wanawake wamekuwa wengi. Ni lazima tuelewane Mhe. Spika. Mhe. Kipkurui

Chepkwony pekee atakuwa pale. Tukiongeza na Karani wa Bunge watakuwa watatu dhidi ya

wawili. Mimi naona turekebishe sheria ili wawe watano. Tunataka wale ambao wamechaguliwa

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wakae pale wakijua ya kwamba hii ni sheria. Wakisimamia hapa Mhe. Spika wajue huu ni uamuzi

na ninaposimama hapa mimi ninawakilisha Wadi ya Kapsabet. Na kama Mhe. ambaye

amechaguliwa ataenda kinyume, mambo yataharibika. Ninataka niwaambie ya kwamba tuna Mhe.

Spika hapa, yeye ana msimamo na pia hao waliochaguliwa wanapaswa kuiga mfano huo. Wakiwa

kwenye ofisi hiyo, kama Mhe. Spika hayuko, shughuli za Bunge hili lifanyike ipasavyo. Wasione

ya kwamba wamepewa cheo kubwa na wakose kufanya kazi Mhe. Spika.

Najua Mhe. Nancy atafanya kazi vizuri. Tunajua wote wamesoma. Ninajua mtu kama mimi siwezi

kuwekwa pale. Nitafanya nini? Mimi ninajua ile kazi ninayoweza kufanya. Na Mungu alipanga ya

kuwa nikae hapa na Mhe. Kipkurui akae pale, na Mhe. Karani akae pale. Tunataka tuwaangalie

vile watafanya kazi Mhe. Spika. Kama hawatafuata sheria tutapambana nao. Iwapo watafuata

sheria tutasema ya kwamba wamefanya kazi nzuri.

Ya mwisho, hatutaki kuona kwamba waliochaguliwa wanakosa vikao. Mhe. Spika iwapo kuna

atakayekosa mara mbili abadilishwe. Tunataka kuhakikisha ya kwamba kila mtu amefanya kazi

nzuri. Sina mambo mengi, naomba tuupitishe majina hayo kisha waanze kufanya kazi na tuendelee

mbele. Asante sana.

Hon. Rono Emmanuel: Thank you Hon. Speaker. I wish to congratulate Hon. Kipkurui, Hon.

Clara and Hon. Nancy for being appointed to the Speaker’s panel. The only thing I will tell them

is this, ‘for you to sit in that panel, you must be a good reader’. Hon. Nancy, Hon. Clara is not here

and Hon. Kipkurui, you must be a good reader. A good reader of the Standing Orders, a good

reader of the Constitution of Kenya, a good reader of the Koran, a good reader of newspapers, a

good reader of journals, be a good reader. This is because if you are going to sit down and you are

not well read, you are going to embarrass yourself. So this afternoon, the only message I am going

to pass to you is that for you to be a good Speaker you must be a good reader. Thank you and

congratulation.

Hon. Koech Gideon: Thank you Mr. Speaker for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this

debate. I wish to also join my colleagues who have spoken before me in congratulating Hon.

Kipkurui Chepkwony, Hon. Clara and Hon. Nancy for clinching the coveted prize since several

other Hon. Members would have also wished to be there. I am not saying that they are jealous but

this is a very good position. So, I wish to congratulate them and urge them to move as per or to

take the steps you have taken as a Speaker. I wish to only inform Hon. Fred that I actually think

the numbers in the Speaker’s panel is still constitutional in the sense that we also have the Hon.

Deputy Speaker. So I think your interest has been catered for in talking of the ladies having been

there but mine is to just congratulate them. I wish them the very best, let them lead and guide this

House during debates in the best way. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

Hon. Sing’oei: Asante sana Bw. Spika kwa hoja hii kuhusu wale ambao wamechaguliwa. Naona

si vyema Mhe. Kipkemboi wa Wadi ya Kapsabet kuwapa vitisho kwamba wasipofanya kazi vizuri

watatolewa. Nafikiri Bunge hili ni la Nandi bali sio la Kapsabet. Kwa hayo Bw. Spika ninaunga

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mkono hoja hii na naamini waliochaguliwa watafanya kazi nzuri. Wapewe mafunzo ili waelewe

kazi hiyo. Sina mengi, ni hayo tu. Asante.

(Hon. Kipkemboi on a point of information)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mhe. Spika ningependa kumjulisha Mhe. Sing’oei kwamba Bunge hili

limejengwa kwenye Wadi ya Kapsabet.

Hon. Komen: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to truly congratulate the

Members who have been appointed to be serve in the Speaker’s panel that is Hon. Kipkurui

Chepkwony, Hon. Clara Chepkemei and Hon. Nancy Chemutai. They are able to serve. I would

actually just really wish to congratulate them and wish them the best as they deliver their service.

Thank you.

Hon. Kiplagat: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I also rise to support this list of names. I can see that the

Members are able to deliver in that capacity. I rise to support. Thank you.

Hon. Morogo: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I also rise to support this Motion. There was a time I tasted

that seat. I wish to tell them that they should work very closely with Members because that seat

they will be sitting on sometimes can be very hot. I know Hon. Chepkwony has been vocal most

of the time and he knows. Hon. Clara Chepkwony also here---

(Laughter)

Sorry, Hon. Clara Chepkemei. You know she has left another name which is very important. She

uses Chepkemei but I wish there was another name here. One time she presided over a session and

she did very well. One commendable thing Mr. Speaker sir, is that you use public relations system

while in that Chair. Hon. Nancy Chemutai also one time did very well. Now that she is one of the

members chosen, I hope the same system will be used. I hope they will all work with us, assist us

and we will appreciate. Thank you.

Hon. Sang: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I rise to support and thank you for nominating the three Hon

Members. I think it was wise to have these Members so that they can have an opportunity. For

instance Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony seem to have been rewarded because he talks much in the

House. Mr. Speaker, I hope now when he sits in that Chair of the Speaker Members will have

ample time. Members have not been having ample time from this man and that problem has now

been tamed. So Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony we want to appreciate that you have been given that

chance. I know this position, the way Hon Fred has put it, is not easy. I know you have appointed

Members who are capable. I wish to tell them that they should work together with the Speaker as

a team.

Hon. Clara has a lot of words and I know when she is on that seat those words will reduce Mr.

Speaker.

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(Laughter)

I know the Hon. Members Mr. Speaker. I know you gave them the right position to serve. I know

Hon. Nancy will now be attending the sessions more often.

(Laughter)

Everybody in this House has an opportunity to serve. I thank you so much for giving me an

opportunity to serve in this House. I support the list so that we can move forward as an Assembly.

Thank you Mr. Speaker

(Hon Kipkemboi on a point of information)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika ningependa kumjulisha Mheshimiwa ambaye ameongea

kwamba Mheshimiwa Chemutai ana mtoto mchanga hali ambayo imemfanya wakati mwingine

kutohudhuria vikao vya Bunge. Isisemekane kwamba yeye huwa haudhurii vikao vya Bunge.

Inafaa Mheshimiwa aelewe kwa sababu kuna mambo unaweza kuongea hapa---

(Laughter)

Hon. Nyauntu: I was wondering because I have been standing and being left out. The nominees

are very much fit and that is why they are supported by the Hon. Members. This also means that

everybody else is also fit to be in the Speaker’s Panel so long as you are in the House. That is

inclusive of Ho. Kipkemboi. Hon. Kipkemboi you are fit. Do not exclude yourself. I concur with

everybody that this list is very much okay. These Members will serve us diligently and I conclude

by using a quote that says, if you cannot beat them, join them.

Hon. Maiyo Teresa: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to congratulate the

team for being in that panel and thank you very much for considering the two ladies, at least for

the first time the ladies are more than men. Putting together it will be made up of three each which

is really balanced and may this continue in future. When we say a third gender rule it does not

mean it has to be minimum of a third, it can be a third of the other gender. So the gender rule does

not necessarily mean ladies. Let it be men at times. I thank you Mr. Speaker for what you did. I

am sure they are going to perform and we shall be here to see and support. Thank you.

(Question put and agreed to)

VARYING OF CALENDAR SITTING FOR THURSDAY 7TH DECEMBER 2017

Hon Koech David: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I wish to move a Motion on Varying of Calendar

sitting for Thursday 7th December 2017.

Aware that the County Assembly approved Calendar of the House pursuant to Standing Order

number 29 part 2 providing for its regular sessions, further aware that Members of County

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Assembly are scheduled to attend official engagement on 7th December 2017 in the afternoon, and

considering the business already scheduled for deliberations, this House therefore resolves that

pursuant to Standing Order number 31 (3b) the sittings scheduled for Thursday 7th December 2017

at 2:30 pm be transacted at Thursday 7th December 2017 at 9.30 am. I wish to move and I kindly

ask Hon. Minority Leader, Hon Kirongo to second.

Hon Kirongo: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I rise to second the Motion moved by the Leader of

Majority. Mr. Speaker, on Thursday afternoon we understand that Hon. Member from Koiyo/

Ndurio ward has a noble function which is very important to this County. Therefore Mr. Speaker,

we are adjusting our programs so that we transact our business tomorrow morning. Mr. Speaker

for that reason, I stand to support the Motion and I request this House to pass. Therefore Mr.

Speaker I do second. Thank you.

(Question proposed)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Asante sana Mheshimiwa Spika. Nashangaa sana kuhusu hoja hii. Kaunti ni ya

maana kuliko shughuli ya Mheshimiwa mmoja. Sioni maana ya kusongesha kikao kwa sababu ya

Mheshimiwa mmoja. Serikali imetupa siku ya Jumamosi na Jumapili kufanya shughuli zetu na

kama sisi sote tutapanga shughuli zetu kuanzia Jumatatu hadi Ijumaa Mheshimiwa Spika, shughuli

za Bunge itasimama.

Siungi mkono hoja hii Mheshimiwa Spika kwa sababu shughuli hiyo ni ya Mheshimiwa mmoja

anayerudisha asante ya kuchaguliwa. Lazima tuangalie mambo mengine muhimu ya kufanya kikao

isongeshwe. Kesho tuna kazi Mheshimiwa Spika. Kesho tuna mikutano ya Kamati mbalimbali na

nasikia kikao kinasongeshwa hadi wiki ijao, Mheshimiwa Spika. Kuna mambo mengine

tunashangaa na nawaambia Waheshimiwa lazima tuwe na malengo. Viongozi mketi na muangalie

zile hoja mnaweza tuletea kwa sababu mambo kama haya sioni kama yanafaa. Mimi nimesoma

hoja hii na nikashangaa. Kwani mtu mmoja anaweza fanya maendeleo ya Kaunti nzima isiendelee?

Hata Gavana---

(Hon Gideon on a point of information)

Hon. Koech Gideon: Mr. Speaker, I wish to inform Hon. Member that the Motion by the Leader

of Majority is not to push the sitting to next week but rather to bring to tomorrow in the morning.

So I think he should be made aware that it is tomorrow morning and not next week.

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Kipkemboi I hope you are advised----

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika watu wengine hawaelewi Kiswahili. Nimesema tuna

mikutano ya Kamati mbalibali asubuhi. Kama tutakuwa na kikao asubuhi na mikutano ya kamati

tutafanya saa ngapi Mheshimiwa Spika? Unajua Kiswahili wakati mwingine inakuwa kigumu

lakini usiwe na wasiwasi Mheshimiwa Spika. Ni kama mimi, Kiingereza sielewi sana lakini

itakuwa sawa tu.

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(Laughter)

Mheshimiwa Spika najua kuna mikutano ya Kamati asubuhi na kuna kikao cha Bunge saa nane.

Hon. Koech Gideon: Is the Hon Member in order to impute that now that I have informed him

that the Motion is about bringing the sitting to 9.30 am, I do not understand Kiswahili? Can he

withdraw and apologize?

Hon Speaker: Mhe. Kipkemboi, je unasema ya kwamba Mheshimiwa Koech Gideon haelewi

Kiswahili?

Hon. Kipkemboi: Haelewi Kiswahili.

(Laughter)

Ya kwanza Mheshimiwa Spika nimesema kuna vikao vya Kamati na kuna kikao cha Bunge. Hio

ndio maana nimesema hakuelewa Mheshimiwa Spika.

(Laughter)

Mheshimiwa Spika na pia aelewe kwamba ukifaulu kwa lugha ya Kiingereza huwezi ukafaulu

kwa Kiswahili.

(Laughter)

Mheshimiwa Spika naona---

Hon. Speaker: An Hon Member can speak in English or Kiswahili. That at times may create an

impression but I want to urge the Hon Members that language should not be used to that basis. If

another Member did not hear well, we should not therefore impute and say that they seem not to

understand. So Hon Kipkemboi proceed and I hope the concern has been noted.

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika, pia tuelewe ya kwamba Bungeni tuna shughuli nyingi.

Tungefanya shughuli za Bunge inavyofaa kisha twende kwenye shughuli ya Mheshimiwa baadaye.

Lazima vikao vya kamati vifanyike asubuhi kisha saa nane unusu tufanye kikao cha Bunge. Hii ni

kwa sababu hata tukienda kule saa tano sherehe hiyo haitakuwa imeanza. Ni vyema kujadiliana na

kupanga mambo haya kwanza. Siungi mkono hoja hii, Mheshimiwa Spika.

Hon. Maiyo Teresa: Thank you so much Mr. Speaker. I would like to support this Motion on

moving the afternoon session to morning because this has been a trend and whatever we do at a

Member’s place markets the activities of this Assembly---

(Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony on a point of order)

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you Hon. Speaker. I think the Members are implying the

connotation that we are moving the business of the House to morning session because of an Hon.

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Member. I think the Hon. Members should read in between the Motion as indicated clearly that it

is due to an official engagement think the issue of bringing on Board whether there is a Member

who is going for a dance, party or an engagement party, is none of our business. Our business is

as indicated that we are going to have an official engagement. So, is it in order for the Members to

bring into the Motion issues that are not addressed by the Motion?

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Members I think we should stick to the Motion. If my copy serves me right

it talks about official engagements on 7th December 2017 in the afternoon. So Hon Terry proceed.

Hon. Maiyo Teresa: Mr. Speaker, whichever the engagement my point was referring to why Hon.

Kipkemboi declined the Motion and I said those outings that we go attending Members’ functions

are very important to our unity here. At the same time it gives a communication to the public. So

whether that is one of the official engagements or there are others, it will be in order for us to move

the afternoon session to morning since Committee meetings can easily be rescheduled Hon.

Speaker. Thank you.

Hon. Rono Emmanuel: Thank you Hon Speaker. I rise to support this Motion first because

Standing Order number 21 (2) allows the variation of such. So I have no problem about this

variation so that Members can participate in the official engagement as mentioned here. Hon.

Kipkemboi as much as you have business tomorrow we have adequate time to attend to Committee

meetings. You have adequate time, we have Friday, and we have a whole two months to attend to

Committee meetings. So I request you through the Speaker to accept and support---

(Hon. Kipkemboi on a point of information)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika niruhusu nimjulishe rafiki yangu Mheshimiwa kuwa

haelewi. Mimi sina mshahara na nahudhuria vikao ili nilipwe Mheshimiwa Spika. Sasa akiniambia

ni wiki ijao nani atanilipa wiki hii Mheshimiwa Spika?

(Hon. Gideon Koech on a point of order)

Hon. Koech Gideon: Is it in order for Hon. Member of Kapsabet to imply that the main reason as

to why we sit in Committees is to get money?

(Laughter)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Asante sana Bwana Spika. Hawa wana wasiwasi. Wananchi wanajua kuwa

inaitwa kwa kimombo sitting allowances. Kwani hawa hawajasoma ama namna gani? Wanajua

hiyo pesa tunalipwa baada ya kuhudhuria vikao, Mheshimiwa Spika. Na hio ndio maana

nawaambia saa nne kamili tutakuwa na mikutano ya kamati na hio kamati inawakilisha Kaunti

mzima. Kwani kufanya harusi ndio kitu cha maana kwa Kaunti yetu ya Nandi?

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you Hon. Speaker. I rise in support of the Motion on varying

of calendar sittings for Thursday 7th December. I think Hon Speaker, tomorrow’s session being the

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last before we proceed for recess, I duly support because I cannot wait to have time to engage the

people of Tinderet over this holiday, to be able to get their views and their interests progressively

as we go into the next financial year budget cycle. However, Hon Speaker, that said and done, the

Standing Orders give us lee way to do this over and over that is why, the Hon. Members cannot

find some of us who are very technical. We cannot find any technical hitch to be able to capitalize

on the varying of calendar. The only thing is probably the gender activist, Hon. Teresa trying to

imply that we are going to have parties. I think Hon Speaker, if that would have come out clearly

whether we are going for parties, I would be the first person to oppose---

Hon. Maiyo Teresa: Honestly speaking Mr. Speaker, let Hon. Chepkwony withdraw what he is

alleging. I did not say that.

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Chepkwony, you are well informed I did not hear the Hon. Member talk

about partying so you have to withdraw the same.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Hon. Speaker, I did mention Hon. Kipkemboi and Hon. Teresa.

Not necessarily attaching Hon. Teresa to the issue of partying. I have only mentioned the two

names because the Hon. Member for Kapsabet actually the last statement he mentioned was

wedding which is a party. So it does not necessarily touch Hon. Teresa, however if she feels that

it is directed to her----

(Hon. Kipkemboi on a point of order)

Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika, ni halali Mheshimiwa ambaye ameongea kuamka na

kusema bila kupewa kibali?

Hon. Speaker: Hon Chepkwony, kindly conclude.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you Hon. Speaker, so as I was saying, the issue that has been

indicated here by the sponsor of the Motion, the Leader of Majority is that we are going to have

official engagement.

(Hon. Sang on a point of order)

Hon. Sang: The language that Hon. Chepkwony is using in the House is not right. When he said

gender activist, I do not know if we have activists in this House. Hon. Chepkwony you should

withdraw the statement. We have Honorable Member representing gender but not activist, Hon.

Chepkwony. That is the language you used and it is not a parliamentary language. He has been

given the opportunity to serve in the Speaker’s Panel and he has started messing.

(Laughter)

I do not know Mr. Speaker from the right---

(Hon Kipkemboi on a point of information)

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Hon. Kipkemboi: Mheshimiwa Spika ningependa kujulisha Mheshimiwa aliyechangia kwamba

neno gender ina maana ya mwanamme ama mwanamke.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Hon Speaker, I think as much as earlier on, the Hon Member for

Nandi Hills had implied probably Hon. Member for Kapsabet does not understand English, he has

proven now in the sentiment that he has just made right away. This is because I clearly said gender

activist. Hon. Speaker allow me to say this, Hon.Teresa in an earlier Motion indicated that in future

we should have more women and men now should be considered for a third and all of us remember

Hon. Teresa earlier on about a month ago was forging for women to be included in the Committees.

So by playing both parts speaking on behalf of the boy child and girl child, she qualifies to be a

gender activist.

(Laughter)

So it is in no way Hon. Speaker, unless we are saying which word is negative. Neither of the words

is negative neither gender nor activist.

Hon. Speaker: Hon. Chepkwony I think the substance of the Motion was on varying of the

calendar. I would not wish we disgrace anyone. I hope you have finished your submission.

Hon. Kipkurui Chepkwony: Thank you Hon Speaker, I will lay to rest at that and say Hon.

Speaker that I fully support the Motion before the House. Thank you.

Hon. Sanga: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I too support the Motion. The Committee on Health and

Sanitation will be much affected because we had planned to attend a ground breaking ceremony

at Chepkunyuk Ward where a health center is to be constructed. All the Committee Members were

ready to attend. Thank you.

Hon. Sang: Thank you Hon. Speaker for giving me this chance. I also support the varying of the

calendar and I have also found another the reason to attend that official engagement. Hon. Speaker,

I think it is wise for us to change so that we can go and have the official launching and maybe if

there is another engagement, we can go after we have launched the dispensary or the Health Centre

in Chepkunyuk. Otherwise I do support that we pass this Motion. Otherwise thank you Mr.

Speaker.

(Question put and agreed to)

ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Speaker: The House stands adjourned until the next sitting.

(The House rose at 4:08 pm)

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