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Minutes by: Cindy Preuss, Harris & Associates 1 Past-Secretary & Vice-Chairman, Nor Cal PUG MEETING MINUTES June 17, 2008 Attendees: Alex Christensen Black & Veatch [email protected] Cara Ingebrigtsen Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Catherine Hernandez Sac County [email protected] Cindy Preuss Harris & Associates [email protected] Colin Dudley Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Dan Crosby Carollo Engineers [email protected] Jimmy Dang Kennedy/Jenks [email protected] Jonathan Lee WVSD [email protected] Katherine Hayden Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Lani Good Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Mike Garcia Hobas Pipe USA [email protected] Richard Barge Ameron International [email protected] Rosemary Smud American Ductile Iron Pipe [email protected] Sasha Mestetsky CCCSD [email protected] Stan Shogren K/J [email protected] Ted Hopkins Shannon & Wilson [email protected] Walk-Ins Roberts McMullin URS Corporation [email protected] Presentation : Hobas Pipe 101 by Mike Garcia, Area Manager of Hobas Pipe USA. Mike provided an informative and comprehensive presentation on: 1. Centrifugally Cast Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer Mortar (CCFRPM) Product and Process 2. Product Performance testing 3. Competitive Analysis 4. Applications 5. Local projects Highlights of the presentation include: Hobas has 22 factories. Sizes 18”-110”; due to shipping costs anything 30” or less is cost-prohibitive. Sections are 20’, but can be smaller depending upon the needs of the project. Hobas strengths are in gravity sewers. Applications include direct bury, microtunneling and jack-and-bore, sliplining, above-ground installations, tunnel carriers, and pipe bursting. CCFRPM is made of glass, resin and sand. Outside layer is UV resistant. This product lasts forever. C=155. o vs. PVC C905 – less brittle and doesn’t allow infiltration/exfiltration o vs. HDPE – allowable deflection compounded over lengths can cause problems at downstream tie-in points. o vs. DIP – can sometimes be out of round.

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Page 1: MEETING MINUTES June 17, 2008 Attendees · presentation will be given on, “Potholing From a Contractor’s Perspective.” WEF Specialty Conferences 2009 Call for Abstracts is out

Minutes by: Cindy Preuss, Harris & Associates 1 Past-Secretary & Vice-Chairman, Nor Cal PUG

MEETING MINUTES June 17, 2008

Attendees: Alex Christensen Black & Veatch [email protected] Cara Ingebrigtsen Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Catherine Hernandez Sac County [email protected] Cindy Preuss Harris & Associates [email protected] Colin Dudley Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Dan Crosby Carollo Engineers [email protected] Jimmy Dang Kennedy/Jenks [email protected] Jonathan Lee WVSD [email protected] Katherine Hayden Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Lani Good Brown & Caldwell [email protected] Mike Garcia Hobas Pipe USA [email protected] Richard Barge Ameron International [email protected] Rosemary Smud American Ductile Iron Pipe [email protected] Sasha Mestetsky CCCSD [email protected] Stan Shogren K/J [email protected] Ted Hopkins Shannon & Wilson [email protected] Walk-Ins Roberts McMullin URS Corporation [email protected]

Presentation: Hobas Pipe 101 by Mike Garcia, Area Manager of Hobas Pipe USA. Mike provided an informative and comprehensive presentation on: 1. Centrifugally Cast Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer Mortar (CCFRPM) Product and Process 2. Product Performance testing 3. Competitive Analysis 4. Applications 5. Local projects Highlights of the presentation include:

• Hobas has 22 factories. Sizes 18”-110”; due to shipping costs anything 30” or less is cost-prohibitive. Sections are 20’, but can be smaller depending upon the needs of the project.

• Hobas strengths are in gravity sewers. Applications include direct bury, microtunneling and jack-and-bore, sliplining, above-ground installations, tunnel carriers, and pipe bursting.

• CCFRPM is made of glass, resin and sand. Outside layer is UV resistant. This product lasts forever. C=155. o vs. PVC C905 – less brittle and doesn’t allow infiltration/exfiltration o vs. HDPE – allowable deflection compounded over lengths can cause problems

at downstream tie-in points. o vs. DIP – can sometimes be out of round.

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Minutes by: Cindy Preuss, Harris & Associates 2 Past-Secretary & Vice-Chairman, Nor Cal PUG

o vs. Polymer Concrete – OD’s may be inconsistent; bearing strength loads low per ASTM Standards.

o vs. VCP – cradle needed at joints. o vs. Filament-Wound – made around a mold (built from inside, out); hydrogen

sulfide reduces ability to handle strain. • Hobas specification: Type 1, Liner 2, Grade 3. • Corrosion resistant and has long life. Hobas also provides great service for free. • Joints/Couplings – gasketed. Easy to cut with diamond tip saw in field. Can make

manholes, T’s, elbows, reducers. • Hobas pipe does withstand hydrocarbon contamination. • Can jack up to 800’ lengths. • Watch out for microtunneling operations in rock – rock grindings thrown back from

the head will break pipe. Check geotechnical data very well before using! • Prequalification of contractor is recommended for Hobas applications, especially with

larger diameter pipeline applications. • Local project: Hunter’s Point: PG&E will install 36” by microtunneling. Construction

slated June 22nd & 23rd. Length is 1000 lf. Later will be installing 72” by open cut construction.

• Can do elliptical/horseshoe-shaped and ship from overseas. Cheaper to barge from Europe then ship via truck cross-country.

• May be issues with permafrost in uncovered or shallow installations. • Hobas doesn’t have any restrained joints here in the USA. Biggest competitors are

T-Lok, lined RCP, and VCP. Handouts included:

• The Complete Hobas Guide: Facts and Specifications • “What’s in Your Pipeline” brochure by Hobas • Pipeline Newsletter – January 2008

A big thank you to Mike for this presentation! General: June 17, 2008 Meeting Minutes: A motion was made to approve the minutes, which was seconded and minutes are approved with no corrections. Board of Directors Election Results: It was very close for two of the three positions, but after tallying the votes the new Chairman is Jonathan Lee of West Valley Sanitation District, the incumbent; Vice Chairman is Cindy Preuss of Harris & Associates, the former PUG Secretary; and Secretary is Roberts McMullin of URS Corporation. Congratulations to our new Board of Directors, and a huge thank you to Jennifer Glynn for her many years of excellent service with and contributions to the group as Vice Chairman. Jennifer will be sorely missed. Transition of Board of Directors: The new Board of Directors will assume their positions as of July 1, 2008. Transition of the Secretarial duties will be ongoing for a few months, but the members should expect to start seeing announcements and other PUG related news items and alerts being sent by Roberts McMullin as of July. Of course any member may contact Cindy for PUG related issues as they so choose – any individuals serving on the Board welcome and value the input, suggestions, and feedback from our members. Website Update: Cindy has been in contract negotiations with the selected PUG website consultant and is getting ever closer to having a signed contract. Once the contract has been signed, work on revamping the website is expected to start immediately.

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Minutes by: Cindy Preuss, Harris & Associates 3 Past-Secretary & Vice-Chairman, Nor Cal PUG

Announcements: The ‘08/’09 membership renewals are due now! The renewal applications were sent by Cara last week. Remember that membership has numerous benefits, such as discounts on the upcoming CIPP course, participation in random raffles held at random monthly meetings, discounts on attending the annual seminar, etc. Get your renewals and/or new member applications in today! The Pipelines 2008 Special Conference Event is coming up July 24, 2008 in Atlanta, GA. Focus presentation will be given on, “Potholing From a Contractor’s Perspective.” WEF Specialty Conferences 2009 Call for Abstracts is out. Conferences include Disinfection 2009, Collection Systems, and Residuals and Biosolids. APWA Public Works Congress & Exposition will be held August 17-20, 2008 in New Orleans, LA. Deadline for Early Bird Registration is June 20. Geospatial Holdings, Inc. just announced a new Tension/Calc3D™ Technology which is an automated bend radius, joint integrity and pulling tension software for the electrical & distribution industry. SCC puts out The Boring Bulletin covering, among other things, lunch & learn classes offered monthly. June 5th was an Intro to Pipe Bursting, July 3rd is Benefits of S.U.E., and other monthly classes are listed through October. These classes are free. Please contact or see Cindy for further information on any of these above announcements. Project Discussions: Jonathan Lee spoke of a 30 lf broken sewer line that took three months to repair. Break occurred in the middle of the night and a $20K spot repair was expected to fix. Break was located between a box culvert and a hidden bridge abutment 25 feet deep. Boring contractor was to bore under the box culvert. Launching pit revealed other end of the bridge abutment that had to be removed. 18-inch top to 3-foot bottom with 1-inch rebar @ 6-inches on center for the bridge abutment required two excavators to remove. Location is the busiest street in Las Gatos. Original backfill was sand, so a 30 by 50-foot pit was required at the launching site, requiring 15 trucks. Final installation included a 24-inch steel casing housing 6-inch to 10-inch sewer pipe. In the end it took $425K to finally fix the problem. Jonathan Lee also reported on a project that is out to bid with the bid opening due in August. As part of their I&I reduction program, 13,000 lf of 6 to 8-inch pipe bursting upsizing and 1000 lf CIPP is slated for construction, including lateral replacements. Sasha Mestetsky reported that overall CSAN is seeing bids that are roughly 40% below average prices. Excellent bidding climate. Cindy Preuss asked if anyone had experience directionally drilling two laterals piggyback in one bore. She’s seen it done with a small conduit atop a larger pipe for pressure lines, but nothing of that nature for gravity where exact grades are imperative. No one in the group had experience with this, although it was suggested that if piggybacking of two small gravity laterals is uncommon, might consider drilling one larger lateral between homes, then splitting the laterals to service adjacent homes in the backyards. Richard Barge of Ameron International and Sasha Mestetsky of CSAN provided an update on the CSAN A-line tunneling project. A 92-inch is being jacked under the creek, and also included is a 72-inch microtunnel TBM. Richard provided information on contacts for site visits to Cindy; Cindy will forward information to the group.

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Minutes by: Cindy Preuss, Harris & Associates 4 Past-Secretary & Vice-Chairman, Nor Cal PUG

Next Meeting: Our next meeting will be held TUESDAY, JULY 15, 2008 at the offices of Brown & Caldwell located at 201 N. Civic Dr., Suite 300, Walnut Creek, CA. The topic will be on Recent Updates with Ductile Iron Pipe: Corrosion Control, Horizontal Directional Drilling, and Fittings, given by Rosemary Smud of American Ductile Iron Pipe. Please call (510)874-3102 or email [email protected] to RSVP.

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 1

HOBAS PIPE USA PRESENTATION

FOR

Centrifugally Cast Fiberglass Centrifugally Cast Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer Mortar PipeReinforced Polymer Mortar Pipe

(CCFRPM)(CCFRPM)

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 2

AGENDA (Hmmm……What part I should wake up for….)

• Introduction• Hobas Pipe• Flexible Pipe in the NW• Applications• Summary• Questions & Answers

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 3

PRODUCT (LDP in the West)*

• Centrifugally Cast Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer Mortar (CCFRPM) Pipe

• Pipe, Joints and Fittings

• 18 Inch to 110 Inch Diameter***

• Up to 20 Foot Section Lengths

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 4

GLOBAL ORGANIZATION

Austria

Spain

Poland

Germany

China

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 5

COMPANY INFORMATION

• Licensee of HOBAS Engineering AGof Switzerland

• Worldwide OrganizationOver 8,000 miles~ 50 Years

• Imported to the U.S. (early 1980’s)

• Houston Plant Start-up (1987)

• U.S. Installations - Over 5 Million feet!

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 6

HOUSTON FACTORY

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 7

APPLICATIONS: Where You’ll Find Us!

Gravity SewersSewer Force MainsIndustrial EffluentsWWTP Piping• Yard Piping• Odor Control Piping

Potable & Raw Water

Salt Water / Brine LinesOutfallsCooling WaterStorm Water SegregationUtility Corridors

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 8

SERVICE CONDITIONS and CAPABILITIES: What We Can Handle!

Operating Pressures up to 250 psiTemperatures up to 180 degrees FCover Depths Over 50 FeetFull VacuumHigh Live Loads

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 9

INSTALLATION METHODS: What to do with Us!

Direct BuryMicrotunneling & JackingSlipliningAbove GroundTunnel CarrierPipe Bursting

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 10

HOBAS PIPE:CCFRPM Product and Process

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 11

MATERIALS

• High Quality Commercial Grade E Glass Fibers

• Thermosetting Resin

• Precisely Graded Aggregates

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 12

WALL CONSTRUCTION( I-beam principle)

OUTER LAYER (Sand & Resin)

HEAVILY REINFORCED (Chopped Glass & Resin)

TRANSITION (Glass, Resin, Mortar)

CORE (Polymer Mortar)

TRANSITION (Glass, Resin, Mortar)

HEAVILY REINFORCED (Chopped Glass & Resin)

LINER (High Elongation Resin)

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 13

PIPE PRODUCTION

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 14

PROCESS

ResinSand

Glass

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HOBAS PRODUCT TESTING

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 16

PRODUCT TESTING

• Per Lot Pipe Sample/Test

• Samples Tested Per ASTMRequirements

• Tests include stiffness, deflection characteristics and mechanical properties

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 17

QUALITY CONTROL LAB

ASTM D2412 Pipe Stiffness Test

“Minimal Deflection”!

ASTM D3754 Hydrostatic Burst Test“Leak Free Joints”

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 18

CORROSION RESISTANCE - LONG-TERM PERFORMANCE (Acidic Bath Test)

• Extended pressure and ring bending tests continue for a minimum of 10,000 hours

• Safe operating limits are established by following appropriate standards

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 19

STRAIN CORROSION TEST RESULTS(H2SO4 per ASTM D3262)

• Deflection Life, years• 2% 681 Trillion• 3% 247 Billion• 4% 895 Million• 5% 11 Million• 6% 325 Thousand• 7% 16 Thousand• 8% 1 Thousand• 9% 118

log (time) = -19.537 log (% strain) + 5.12

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 20

Los Angeles County Salt Water Test

Over 5 years and Running!

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 21

Abrasion Resistance Test

• University of Darmstadt Test Method

• Actual case histories

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 22

Smooth ID with C=155; Hydraulics/Low Coeffcient

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HOBAS And “Other”Fiberglass

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24242006 HOBAS CCFRPM 24

Centrifugally Cast Centrifugally Cast PipePipe ConstructionConstruction

Exterior

InteriorBarrier

Glass

GlassSand

Body

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25252006 HOBAS CCFRPM 25

Filament Wound Pipe Filament Wound Pipe ConstructionConstruction

Surface Mat and body resin

liner

Chopped glass back-up to liner

Structural wound glass w/ chopped glass

Resin and glass outer surfaceExterior

Interior

Material is added to outside of rotating form

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26262006 HOBAS CCFRPM 26

NonNon--Dense FW wallDense FW wall

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 27

Well, I’ll just follow the Standards…..

ASTM D3262

ASTM D3754

AWWA C950

AWWA M45

Gravity Sanitary Sewers Gravity Sanitary Sewers

Sewer Force Mains & Industrial Sewer Force Mains & Industrial

Water Pressure MainsWater Pressure Mains

Fiberglass Pipe Design ManualFiberglass Pipe Design Manual

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 28

ASTM D3262 Table 1: “Cell Class, Say Whaaaaa”

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 29

So Now What?

ASTM D3262

ASTM D3754

AWWA C950

AWWA M45

Gravity Sanitary Sewers Gravity Sanitary Sewers

Sewer Force Mains & Industrial Sewer Force Mains & Industrial

Water Pressure MainsWater Pressure Mains

Fiberglass Pipe Design ManualFiberglass Pipe Design Manual

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 30

CELL CLASS 123

Type 1:

Liner 2:

Grade 3:

Stiffness:

Fiberglass Reinforced PolyesterFiberglass Reinforced Polyester

NonNon--Reinforced (pure resin) liner Reinforced (pure resin) liner

NonNon--Reinforced (UV resistant) exteriorReinforced (UV resistant) exterior

C=36 psi & D=72 psiC=36 psi & D=72 psi

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 31

HOBAS PIPE SUMMARY

Corrosion ResistanceLong-Life Leak-Free JointsStructural ReliabilityHigh Flow CapacityEasy InstallationLower Life Cycle CostConsistent High QualitySuperior Service

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Joints and Couplings

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 33

JOINTS / COUPLINGS

FWC Coupling

Low-Profile Bell-Spigot

Flush Bell-Spigot

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 34

Key Differences - Gasket

42” Direct Bury Pipe

Hobas = 9.17 SF sealing area

Others = 1.38 SF sealing area

HOBAS has 7 times more gasket material to seal with!

That’s 665 % the SEAL

← Hobas FWC Gasket 10” wide →

Others ¾ “

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 35

When it comes to joint sealing…

the other guys

Its more than just area, its also

compressibility3,500 lbs joining force in straight alignment

42” Coupling requires

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 36

Key Differences – Gasket2

Can you roll this gasket during insertion?

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 37

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 38

Key Differences – Gasket3

Hobas FWC gaskets are keyed into the fiberglass

collarIt’s a

Go or No Go process

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 39

FWC COUPLING

Full-face Elastomeric Interior (EPDM Standard)Direct Bury, Above Ground and Pressure Relining Push Together AssemblyCut and Join HOBAS Pipes Anywhere Along Length Due to Constant Pipe OD’s.High Performance• Zero Leakage• 1,000 psi (Straight Alignment)• 500 psi (Shear Load / Angle)• 250 psi (ASTM D4161 Rating)

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APPLICATIONS

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 41

DIRECT BURY EXPERIENCE

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THE KEY TO DIRECT BURYOF HOBAS PIPE………………

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 43

“EMBEDMENT CONDITIONS AND BACKFILL”

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 44

ADVANTAGES OF DIRECT BURY with HOBAS

Routine InstallationZero LeakageEasy Field Length AdjustmentsFabrication Versatility

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ADDITIONAL PRODUCTSADDITIONAL PRODUCTS

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 46

ZERO LEAK MANHOLES

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 47

MANHOLES

• T Base• Risers

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 48

FITTINGS

ElbowsReducersFlangesTeesLaterals

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 49MICROTUNNELING & JACKING EXPERIENCE

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 50

CONVENTIONAL JACKING

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 51

MICROTUNNELING

• Modified Jacking Method– Non-man-entry system– Fully remotely controlled– Capable of handling ground water– Capable of handling curves– Capable of handling multiphase soil

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 52

• 465,000 feet since 1987• 18” to 96” Diameter• 1,560 ft. Longest Drive (60”)• Many 1000+ feet Drives

HOBAS Jacking Experience

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 53

• Strong• Small / Consistent Dimensional

Tolerances• Resilient• Leak-Free Gasket-Sealed Joints• Repairable

Characteristics of a Good Jacking Pipe

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 54

• Compressive Strength >10,000 psi• Minimum 140 psi Pipe Stiffness• Minimum 200 psi Pipe Burst Capacity

HOBAS Jacking Pipe Characteristics Strength & Capabilities

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 55

• OD +/- 0.05%• Straightness max 0.06” deviation

per 10’ section• Roundness +/- 0.10%• End Squareness +/- 0.06”• Length +/- 0.25”

HOBAS Jacking Pipe CharacteristicsDimensional Tolerances

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 56

Flush Jacking Bell-Spigot

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 57

Flush (Jacking) Bell-Spigot

Flush to Pipe OD w/ Elastomeric Gasket SealFiberglass Bell SleeveDia Tolerance:+/-0.03” (18”) to +/- 0.07” (110”)Excellent Performance

>50 psi Seal Perf.Zero Leakage

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 58

Advantages Related to Jacking with HOBAS Pipes

Lowest Loads• Smooth Constant OD• Straight & Round• Lightweight• Non-absorbing

Long Distance JacksFewer Pits

Highest Reliability• Computer Consistent

Quality• Resilient Material• Perfect Square Ends

Risk ControlRepairable

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 59

Jacking Load Calcs.

60” Hobas CCFRPM

Ultimate Tonnage 540 x 2.5 =1,350 tons

= 2,700,000 Lbf

Project specifications limit the contractor to 85% of SF:2.5 rating

Max Jacking Force Allowed540 x 0.85 = 459 tons

= 918,000 Lbf

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 60

Jacking Load Test

15’ Long 60” Hobas IJS Lag Pipe

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 61

Jacking Load Test

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 62

Jacking Load Test

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 63

Successful Microtunneling

• Careful study of geotechnical information– Formation– Obstruction– Water

• Selection of MTBM system– Experience in the similar grounds– Navigation and lubrication technology

• Selection of Jacking pipe– Experience and history of use– Precision of dimensional (OD and Wt) tolerances– Quality and precision of the jacking joint

• The Contractor

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 64

Contractor• Pre-qualified to perform the task

– Track record– Financial responsibilities– References

• Contractor employs experienced managers– Previous employment history– Project references

• Contractor employs experienced operators– Familiar with the specified MTBM system components.– Can perform precision guided microtunneling

Ask us….HOBAS can assist you!

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 65

Largest Microtunneling Project Ever

• Redwood Trunk Sewer• City of Oxnard (Ventura County)• 15,600 LF of 60” Hobas Jacking Pipes• 10,200 LF of 42” Hobas Jacking Pipes• Short Schedule (18 months to finish)• Long jacking drives (up to 1,250 LF on 60”)• 5 MTBM working simultaneously• $33,700,000 total project• $5,100,000 total pipe package including MHs• Affholder Inc. (Insituform)• Kennedy/Jenks Consultants• Jacobs Associates (microtunneling sub consultant)

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 66

Redwood Trunk Sewer

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 67

West Coast Major Approvals

• City of Los Angeles – MT/SL/DB• City of San Diego – MT/SL/DB• County San Dist of LAC – SL/TC• LA County DWP – MT/CC/TC• Orange County San. Dist – MT/TC/SL• City of Thousand Oaks – DB• Elsinore Valley Muni. Dist – DB/MT • City of Oxnard – MT/DB/SL• City of Sacramento – MT/SL/DB• City of San Jose – MT/SL/DB• City of Portland – SL/MT/TC• King County – SL/MT/TC/DB• City of Honolulu – SL/MT/TC/DB

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 68

Oro Loma Sanitation District: WA. Trunk Sewer

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 69

5th Street San Francisco

• Scope– 500 LF 60”

• Consultants– City Of SF

• Contractor– J & M Const.

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 70

City of Sacramento U and S Street Proj

• Scope– 800 LF 84”– 785 LF 54”

• Consultants– CH2M Hill– Bennett/Staheli

• Contractor– T & S Const.

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 71

City Of Sparks, NV: 13,000 Ft./ 60”Diameter

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 72

City Of Sparks, NV: 13,000 Ft./ 60”Diameter

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 73

Complex Pipe ProjectsLos Angeles – ECIS 2005

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 74

5th Street San Francisco

• Scope– 500 LF 60”

• Consultants– City Of SF

• Contractor– J & M Const.

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 75

MICROTUNNELED FORCE MAIN

Hart Street ForcemainHonolulu, Hawaii48” 125 psi MT – 2,800 LF2003 Modern Continental Const.

Bennett Road FMOrlando, Florida36” 100 psi MT 4,700 LF1998 Kerr Microtunneling

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 76

MICROTUNNELED FORCE MAIN

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 77

PG&E Conduit @ Hunters Point BNSF/MUNI

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 78

Q & A

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2006 HOBAS CCFRPM 79

HOBAS PIPE USAArea ManagerMike [email protected]