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    The Interest Rate Paradox

    John H. CochraneUniversity of Chicago Booth School of Business,

    Hoover institution, Cato institute,

    http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochrane

    The Grumpy Economist blog

    Johnhcochrane.blogspot.com

    http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochranehttp://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/john.cochrane
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    1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 20100

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    1yr3mo

    Constant-maturity treasury yields and 3 month rate. Source: Fred

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    1990 1995 2000 2005 20100

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    1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 20100

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    CPI inflation

    Core CPI inflation (ex food and energy). Source: Fred

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    Revenue: $2.5TExpense: $3.5T

    Debt: $16T

    Promises:Gazillions

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    Source: http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htmhttp://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm
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    Growth (or not) drives deficits

    Tax revenue = tax rate x income

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    2010 2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 2045 2050

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    DP

    CBO Long Term Budget Outlook

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    2010 2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 2045 20500

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    The Effect of Economic Growth on Deficits

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    $1,000

    $1,200

    $1,000

    $1,200

    Bad news (or rumor!)

    Financial crises are always and everywhere

    the result of short term debt

    Bankrupt!

    Default/inflate

    Pay back?

    Default/inflate?Long term debt

    Short term debt

    Short term debt: Future problems cause crisis today

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    2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 20400

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    Year

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    Fraction of debt coming due before each date

    Treasury

    With Fed

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    But even the CBOs dire forecast assumes a

    return to growth! (and magical spending cuts)

    http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/43907-BudgetOutlook.pdf

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    2010 2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 2045 20500

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    PercentofGDP

    The Effect of Slower Growth on Deficits

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    1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 20100

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    CPI inflation

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    1990 1995 2000 2005 20100

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    1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 20100

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    16Treasury yields

    10yr

    5yr

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    3mo

    Constant-maturity treasury yields and 3 month rate. Source: Fred

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    2010 2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 20450

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    4.5Treasury Yield Curve

    Forward

    Yield

    Zero-coupon yield curve 4/2/2013 . Source: Gurkanyak, Sack and Wright (FRB)

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    2010 2015 2020 2025 2030 2035 2040 2045 20500

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    4/2/2013 curve

    4/2/2010 curve

    Treasury Curve

    Forward

    Yield

    ?

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    1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 20100

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    Scenarios Consensus. Economy improves slowly, slow tightening inflation

    anchored. Enough entitlement reform to stop a crisis.

    Japan. 10-20 year stagnation, inflation to zero, rates stay zero,great time to hold long term bonds. Debt builds up to magical

    levels (200%+ GDP)

    Mild crisis. Inflation to 3-4%, Fed tries to tighten, cant from

    fiscal / bank/ political limits, stagflation breaks out.

    Severe crisis 1: Rates rise, debt spiral

    Severe crisis 2: Europe, state bankruptcy, etc. trigger run on

    long sovereign debt then run on dollar.

    Miracle of common sense: Tax reform, entitlement reform,

    structural reform, return to strong growth, pay off debt, inflationstays low.

    Forward curve: Averages all these + risk premiums.

    What to do: Wise portfolio allocation starts with risk

    managementnot alpha.

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    The End

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    $1,000

    Investment

    $1,500 Revenue

    $1,200 Debt

    $300 profit

    $1,000

    Investment

    $1,500 Revenue

    $1,100 Debt

    $300 profit

    The attraction of short-term debt

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    $1,000

    Investment

    $1,500 Revenue??

    $1,200 Debt

    $300 profit??

    $1,000

    Investment

    $1,100 Debt

    Bad news (or rumor!)

    $1,500 Revenue??

    Financial crises are always and everywhere

    the result of short term debt

    Bankrupt!