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Translator compendium April 2004

1. Table of contents1. Table of contents 12. Bookmarks in the web browser 2

1.1. Bookmarks to Web4Health...............................................21.2. Bookmarks to dictionaries................................................2

3. Password 34. Translation of HTML 45. Finding FAQs to translate 56. Translating FAQs 77. Translation of Menus 118. Finding English questions to write answer to

(Gunborg) 139. Translation of Ask-The-Expert answers 1610. Contact information 18

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2. Bookmarks in the web browser

1.1. Bookmarks to Web4Health

You may need to have the following bookmarks in your web browser:

Namn Link to

Ask the expert here http://web4health.info/eu/kom/15644;login

W4H-KOM http://web4health.info/eu/kom/;login

W4H Home Page http://web4health.info/

FAQ Production http://web4health.info/eu/kom/7;login

W4H Table tool http://web4health.info/eu/kom/9;login

FAQ Test http://web4health.info/test/

1.2. Bookmarks to dictionariesName Link toGood English synonym dictionary

http://www.wordsmyth.net/

Another good English synonym dictionary, better than Wordsmyth on slang and familiar everyday language.

http://www.vancouver-webpages.com/wordnet/

Classical English synonym dictionary.

http://humanities.uchicago.edu/forms_unrest/ROGET.html

English-english dictionary. http://www.m-w.com/Swedish synonym dictionary

http://wl.ebolaget.com/Contents/Search.asp

Swedish-English and English-Swedish dictionary

http://www-lexikon.nada.kth.se/skolverket/sve-eng.shtml

English-english dictionary with links to several different dictionaries.

http://www.onelook.com/

Collection of links to dictionaries on the web.

http://www.lexicate.com/


http://www.lexicate.com/

http://www.onelook.com/

http://www-lexikon.nada.kth.se/skolverket/sve-eng.shtml

http://wl.ebolaget.com/Contents/Search.asp

http://www.m-w.com/

http://humanities.uchicago.edu/forms_unrest/ROGET.html

http://www.vancouver-webpages.com/wordnet/

http://www.wordsmyth.net/

http://web4health.info/test/

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/9;login


http://web4health.info/

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/;login


3. PasswordWhen the web browser asks for your password, you should mostly use your own personal loginid and password. However, when you are to publish a reply which an expert has written in "Ask the expert here", then you must log in with the password of this expert, in order to have the answer published under that name.

Loggin in to the computers (not web browsers) at the home of Jacob and Gunborg Palme usually is done with the loginname "jpalme" and the password "o".


4. Translation of HTMLHTML code What the user sees<p>Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack fell down, and Jill came tumbling after.</p><p>Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty fell down. And all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.</p>

Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack fell down, and Jill came tumbling after.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty fell down. And all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.

<p>Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack fell down, and Jill came tumbling after. <a href="more-info.htm" class=more>More.</a></p><p>Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty fell down. And all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.</p>

Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack fell down, and Jill came tumbling after. More.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty Dumpty fell down. And all the kings horses and all the kings men could not put Humpty Dumpty together again.

<ol><li>First choice.</li><li>Second choice.</li></ol>

1. First choice.

2. Second choice.

<A HREF="ed-causes-overview.htm" class=linklist>Overview</A> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><A HREF="ed-causes-ideals-links.htm class=linklist">Slim ideals; Links</A> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6">

Overview Slim ideals; links

Most pages contain only simple HTML. If you find that a page contains too complex HTML, you might get an HTML expert to help with translation of that particular page.

If you look at the HTML code, you can see that it consists of plain text and HTML commands. HTML commands start with "<" and end with ">". The main principle for translating HTML is that only the plain text, not the HTML


http://web4health.info/en/answers/ed-causes-ideals-links.htm

http://web4health.info/en/answers/ed-causes-overview.htm

commands, are translated. Thus, in the examples above, "ed-causes-overview.htm" and "small-ball.gif" are not translated.


5. Finding FAQs to translate

1.3. Finding FAQs which are and which are not translated.

Go to the table tool at

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/29761;login Fill in the form as follows:

where in languages you indicate the two languages you want to translate between, for example English (en) and Dutch (nl) in the example above.

Click on

Wait five mintes and then click on again. After yet a few minutes,

you will then get a table which looks something like this (the example below is for translation betweeen English (en) and German (de).

In the table example above, you can see that the first two FAQs in the table are only available in English, and thus need translation to German, while the second and third FAQs both have a German translation. The number after “de:” in the “Body” column indicates the number of characters in the German translation.File name: document.doc Latest change: 8/1/2006 05:16:00 PM

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Warning: There is a bug, which means that you will not get any response to this command the first time you try it. Wait five minutes, and try again. Then it will work.

Click on the name of the FAQ under “Title” in the table above to get to an FAQ to translate.

1.4. Finding most popular FAQs

The above method will help you find which FAQs have not been translated, but not tell you which are most important to translate. To find which FAQs are most important to translate, you can go to http://web4health.info/webalizer-w4h/en/index.html and

click on the name of previous month. In the result you get, there is a table with the title “Top 1000 of 12137 Total URLs˝. The items begining with /en/answers/ in this list are the most popular FAQs in English.

If you click on a URL in the list produced in this way, you will see this page as it is shown to ordinary Web4Health users. At the very bottom of the FAQ, you see something like this:

ed-pictures • Copyright 2003-2006 Web4Health

Here, “ed-pictures” is the short-name (internal name) of the FAQ. Click on this, in order to get to the internal representation of this FAQ, to be able to translate it.


6. Translating FAQs Locate an FAQ to translate, either as described above or, if you have the

short name of the FAQ, use the web address:

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/ed-causes-culture;lang=enwhere ed-causes-culture is the short-name (internal name) of the FAQ you want to translate.

When you have located the FAQ, it will look something like this:

Pull down the menu to the name of the language you want to translate to.

l then get a window which looks like this:


http://web4health.info/eu/kom/ed-causes-culture;lang=en

You can then see the English text you are translating from in the left column, and the Dutch text you are translating to in the right column. Fill in the Dutch translation in the right column. Preserve the HTML markup (commands like <p>, etc.) from the English original text, only translate the text outside of HTML markup.

Note 1: When you get to this window, a Dutch translation made by Systran is shown in the right column. If you want to, you can use this as a basis for your translation. If you do not want this, click in the right window, give the command Ctrl-A (on Macintosh: Command-A) and push the Delete key to delete the Systran translation.

Note 2: You can also, if you so wish, go to the left column, click in the field to translate, give the command Ctrl-A (on Macintosh Command-A) to select all the text, and then give the command Ctrl-C (on Macintosh Command-C) to copy the English text, then go to the rightmost column, give the command Ctrl-A (on Macintosh Command-A), and then the command Ctrl-V (on Macintosh Command-V). You have then pasted the English original into the rightmost window, and can enter the translation by modifying the English original. The advantage with doing this is that all HTML markup, which is to be unchanged, will automatically be moved to the right column.

Note 3: The rightmost column contains a number of different fields. Treat them as follows:

Field name What to do with it

Language Never translate

Title Always translate. Try to choose words which a person using a search engine might use to search for this page. For example, “Child Sexual Abuse Effects” is a good title, because many people use it when asking queries to search engines. “Trauma experienced by children after sexual encounters” is a very bad title, because no one will ever type that query to a search engine.

Question Always translate. Try to include the title somewhere in the question. For example, if the title is “Child Sexual Abuse Effects” then the question might be “Describe child sexual abuse effects”. The reason for this is that if


the search phrase is repeated both in the title and in the text, search engines will give priority to this page.

Identifier Never translate! Important!

Date-created, Date-last-modified Need not be translated.

Body Always translate.

Author Translate.

Sources, references Not so important to translate this.

Required, Priority, Optional, Forbidden Dont't translate these fields to Greek or Finnish! For other languages, these fields need to be translated in a special way, with knowledge of how the natural language question-answering system works. If you do not know this, leave them blank. Remove the Systran translation.

Not desired, Limit Need not be translated.

Meta-description Always translate. Important! Should give a good short 2-5 line summary of the page.

Meta-keywords Good if you translate this, but not highly important. Try to add different synonyms in the target language.

Contact, Discuss-this, Ask-an-expert Need not be translated. This field is not used.

Notes Need not be translated.

When you are ready with a translation, push the button

If you want to take a break, push When you restart the translation at a later time, locate the English version again and pull down the

menu, you will then see your half-finished translation in the right-most column. It is also suitable to do this now and then, when working on a large translation, so that your work does not disappear if the computer crashes.


If you have become logged out from the server, while doing the translation, the button will still work, but you have to login to see the result of the

translation.

The difference between and is that will only save the translation in the internal data base, while

will also make the translation available to ordinary visitors to our web site.


7. Translation of Menus

The body of menus (like the example shown above) are difficult to translate. I usually do it in the following way:

I click in the Body area of the English original, give the command ctrl-A (on Macintosh Command-A). Then I move to Microsoft Word or some other text editor) and give the command ctrl-V (on Macintosh Command-V). I then change the settings in Microsoft Word to get very long lines, for example by changing the font size to “5”. You will still be able to read the text, if you use the zoom command in Microsoft Word with a large enough value.

For example, the menu above will look like this in Word:<TABLE width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" CELLPADDING=2 class=padded><TR><TD CLASS=padded valign="top">

<DIV CLASS="linkpara">Different Kinds of Phobias (Fears)</div><DIV class=linklist><a href="phobia-dia-social.htm">Social phobia</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="bipolar-social.htm">Cannot talk to people</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="ed-dia-weight-phobia.htm">Weight phobia</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="phobia-paruresis.htm">Fear to use public toilets</a></div></td><TD CLASS=padded valign="top"><DIV CLASS="linkpara">Causes</div><DIV class=linklist><a href="ed-psy-self-esteem.htm">Low self-esteem</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="ed-psy-anxiety.htm">Suppressed feelings</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="sleep-hypna-halluc.htm">Dreams</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><A HREF="anx-first-panic-attack.htm">Phobia and anxiety</a> <IMG SRC="/images/small-ball.gif" WIDTH="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="child-trauma-symptoms.htm">Trauma</a></div></td><TD CLASS=padded valign="top"><DIV CLASS="linkpara">Incidence</div><DIV class=linklist><a href="anx-prev-gen.htm">How many people suffer from phobia</a></div></td><TD CLASS=padded valign="top"><DIV CLASS="linkpara">Treatment</div><DIV class=linklist><a href="phobia-treat-snake.htm">Snake phobia as an example of the treatment of phobia</a> <img src="/images/small-ball.gif" width="6" HEIGHT="6"><a href="bio-ssri-indication.htm">Medicines</a> <IMG SRC="/images/small-ball.gif" WIDTH="6" HEIGHT="6" ALT="separator"><a href=http://www.phobialist.com/treat.html target="_blank"> More about the treatment of phobia (external link)</div>

<DIV CLASS="linkpara"><A HREF="project-all-menus.htm">All Web4Health menus</a></div></td></tr></table></a>

After having done this, most of the links in the menu will occupy only one line in the editing window, which makes translation much easier.


After translating in Word, copy the translation and paste it into the Body field of the groupware.


8. Finding English questions to write answer to (Gunborg)

Go to the ask-the-expert-here area at:

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/15644;loginClick here:

You will see something like this:

Under the heading "Moderated Questions and answers", you see questions which have not yet been published. The red flag indicates that you have not yet read this question. If the subject begins with a signature, such as "MW: insomnia", this indicates that Martin Winkler is working on an answer to this question.



To see one of the questions, click on its subject, for example Harassment in the example above. You will then see the question, which looks something like this:

If you want to answer this entry, then type your signature (for example “GP: ” for Gunborg Palme) in front of the text in the

area, and click on Submit .

If you want to correct the text of the question or its subject, make the corrections in the window above and click on Submit .

old the key down and click on . You will then see something

like this:


If the question was in English, and you want to answer first in Swedish,

pull down the menu to “Svenska”.

Translate the text in

to Swedish.

Write the Swedish answer in the large text box, click Preview/Save if you want to save a partly finished answer. Note: You must include the code “<p>” if you want a paragraph break.

When you are ready with your answer, click on the Submit button.


9. Translation of Ask-The-Expert answersYou will get an e-mail which looks something like this:Web4Health Forums and Chats <>Gloria Dixon-Svard <[email protected]>Subject: New texts to translate

Here are new texts to translate:

http://web4health.info/eu/kom/26889;translate=enhttp://web4health.info/eu/kom/26879;translate=enhttp://web4health.info/eu/kom/26882;translate=en

Click on one of the links (maybe double-click, depends on which mail

program you use). If you are already logged in, skip below. If

you are not logged in, you will see:

Click on Log in (secure). .

Give your login name and password and click on Login .

ou had to login, you may have to repeat step now

If you see this, scroll to the right


http://web4health.info/eu/kom/26882;translate=en



Scroll down, and you will see this:

Write your translation in the box to the right. When you are ready, click on Submit .

If you want to stop translating and continue later, click on Preview/save . To find such half-ready translations, log in and click on My area . You will then see a list of half-finished translations, click on one of them, and click on Modify message to continue translating.


10. Contact informationJacob Palme, phone +46-8-16 16 67, email [email protected]

Torgny Tholerus, developer of KOM2002, work phone +46-8-16 16 95, home phone +46-8-646 92 21 epost [email protected]

Lars Enderin, developer of KOM and question-answering system, work phone +46-8-16 37 46, home phone +46-8-550 144 47, email [email protected]

Note: Lars and Jacob often work at home.


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