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International Monetary Fund Ukraine
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IMF approved the $17bn tranched loan to Ukraine last night,
Gazprom gets paid; Ukraine gets its cash; and the door's wide
open for the US and EU to pour more 'controlling influence' into
the divided nation... Except there's one thing:
IF UKRAINE GOVERNMENT LOSES EFFECTIVE CONTROL
OVER EAST OF COUNTRY, $17 BLN IMF BAILOUT WOULD
NEED TO BE REDESIGNED
Which, roughly translated, appears to mean go to war with pro-
Russian forces (and thus Russia itself if Putin sees his
apparent countrymen in trouble) or you don't get your
money!
Some other items of note include:
*IMF URGES UKRAINE TO REACH PRICE ACCORD WITH
GAZPROM BY SEPT
*UKRAINE INFLATION MAY JUMP TO 16.2% THIS YEAR,
IMF SAYS
*RUSSIA'S GAS PRICE INCREASE MAY WEAKEN
HRYVNIA: IMF STAFF
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The
IMF
wants to pay Gazprom?
new Looney
They (and us, the
US) will be paying Gazprom for the Ukrainian gas for a
veddy-veddy long time. Unfortunately...
Looney
new Pladizow
So
now
the
IMF is
outright saying - "We will pay for War!" -
WTF!!!!
new
CrashisOptimistic
That's not really the issue.
The problem is the tax
revenues from that rich farmland in the East.
If those regions go independent and join
Russia, so does the tax revenue.
The western regions are all parasites hoping to
get on EU benefits programs. They don't pay
taxes.
If the tax revs disappear, the IMF spreadsheets
blow up.
new
813kml
The IMF spreadsheet blew
up a long time ago, none of
this is about money.
Ukraine is all about trying to bring Russia
to heel.
new Arius
17 billion redesigned
comes down to 7-8-9
billion?
what is worth the life of few
hunderds/thousands ukr ... those
balckwater guys dont come cheap
either ...
choices ... choices
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new Pinto Currency
There's a gold market problem.
IMF needs a back story.
Get to work Mr. Yatsenyuk!
new dryam
Sounds like the
way the US
federal
government operates with the
states; play by our rules or you
won't get federal dollars. We
don't have real power over you
& the law doesn't support our
position, but it's your choice to
get this money or not. It's called
extortion.
new Manthong
This is
astounding.
They have opened their
kimono completely..
It is all about buying a
country and unbridled violent
coercion.
We should all be ashamed to
have anything to do with
this assault on freedom.
new KnightsofNee
Freedom?
What freedom?
new Oh regional
Indian
So
manthong and
others, really, can
we do anything at
all?
Is the collective now
totally helpless?
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new SoberOne
Without sound
money this
bullshit will
continue world
wide.
new Thought
Processor
This is like
getting to
choose
between two
slave owners.
Dear people
of Ukraine,
please
choose the
third option.
P.S. I'm not
sure what the
third option
is, so you
may have to
get creative
on that one.
Oh and......
good luck.
new
svayambhu108
International
Mother...
new
dontgoforit
The
'NEW'
FightClub.
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You
get
paid
after
you
lose.
new
Manthong
Ori..
the
pro-
Russian
“separatists”
(gotta’
love
that
term,
all
they
really
want
is
to
get
back
what
they
had
before
the
west
intruded)
are
doing
it
with
all
manner
of
arms
including
beautifully
embellished
truncheons.
We
will
do
it
by
starving
the
beast..
I
would
rather
not
have
to
pick
up
a
truncheon
no
matter
how
splendid.
It
will
take
some
time,
but
the
people
are
pretty
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clever
and
stuff
is
developing.
new
Latina
Lover
All
wars
are
bankster
wars!
new
Vampyroteuthis
...
The
IMF
can go
to the Fed
and say "Hey,
print a few
billion and
launder it
through
POMO to us."
new Malachi
Constant
Correction:
Without
letting the
concept of
PROFIT go
this bullshit
will continue
worldwide.
Sound
money,
unsound
schmoney -
it's irrelevant.
Who are you
to decide you
"deserve"
something?
You already
have what
you need:
body, water,
air, food.
Everything
else your
imagination -
and you want
everyone else
to obey your
imagination.
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If you are
driven by the
promise of a
reward, you
are the
problem. If
you would do
whatever you
do even if
you'd die of
hunger, you
are the
solution.
If you create,
you are the
solution. If
you prevent
others from
creating (by
withholding
information,
too), you are
the problem.
When you do
what you
want, you are
happy. The
world
becomes
better by 1
person.
When you lie
to yourself in
exchange for
mansions and
maybachs,
you are
neither living
yourself nor
letting
others. You
make the
world hell for
many people
- including
yourself.
Example:
what on
Earth makes
Putin think
it's "his" gas?
It was there
since forever;
since when
there was no
one in the
Universe to
say "gas" or
"Russia". It's
Earth's gas.
His fees are
not for the
gas, but for
not letting
anyone use
it.
He's a bridge
troll, like
every
government,
like every
merchant -
especially in
the
intellectual
property
industry.
"Instead of
teaching you,
I will fleece
you. I would
rather live
among poor,
uneducated,
unhappy
slaves than
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among
equals,
because
surrounded
by slaves I
look like I am
important."
And all for
what? In a
few years
he'll be as
dead and
useless as
the poorest
sissiest leper
1,000 years
ago.
What "profit"?
What "I me
mine" can
there be?
new Jadr
It's
a
great idea
in theory
but it
doesn't
work
given
human
nature.
Perhaps
you
should
read
about the
tragedy
of
commons.
If there is
no
ownership
of
anything
then
people
are not
motivated
to put
their
effort into
developing
the land
they live
on. Your
idea has
been tried
numerous
times and
failed
every
time.
There are
some
great
stories of
early US
colonist
groups
which
took an
approach
like you
suggest
and they
failed due
to lack of
food.
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Many of
the
groups
were
wiped out
while
others
developed
property
rights
before it
was too
late and
began to
survive
and then
flourished.
new
Bendromeda
Strain
Governor
Bradford
and
Plimoth
Plantation
(the
Mayflower)...
start
there.
new American
Dreams
Not helpLESS but
help more Oh.
Still to much to
lose for way to
many. There are
just way to many
ways to keep
oneself alive
without having to
fight for it, so
plenty of "help"
available.
Know your enemy
AD
new Jadr
Freedom for the
Ukrainians to
demonstrate self-
determination and
determine which set
of oligarchs they
want to cozy up
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with. I don't like the
idea of Russia
expanding its borders
but I also don't like
the idea of the coup
government killing
the other Ukrainians
that want nothing to
do with the new
government.
Sections of Eastern
Ukraine should be
able to form their
own autonomous
government if they
desire.
new Matt
The People of
Crimea chose to
secede, then
they chose to be
annexed y
Russia. IF the
majority desire to
be part of Russia
rather than be
independant, I
guess it is their
choice. Whether
subsections can
secede from the
smalle State, and
be independant, I
suppose that
would be right,
but will likely not
be allowed.
new Nigh Eve
Perhaps
Russia
could
simply purchase from
Ukraine the 3 eastern-
most oblasts for $25 to
$30 billion.
new dontgoforit
Rent is
the
answer. They can
rent them for $9
billion/yr. 99-yr
lease. Oh yeah,
that's what Crimea
was supposed to be
about....nevermind.
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new Matt
And then charge
$10 Billion / year
for natural gas,
sounds like a real
win-win to me.
new SAT 800
Agreed. Pretty blatant
anouncement; surprised
more people don't
notice what they're saying.
new 813kml
The Banksters know
exactly how
worthless paper
money is since they print it into
existence. The IMF is a global
payday loan shack, it's all about
entrapping the desperate into doing
its bidding.
new Chupacabra-322
The Economic
Hitmen as well
as the Jackels
are very busy pillaging what's
remaining of what was once a
Soverign Country.
new Volkodav
"What was
once
Sovereign
Country"..
hardly..not thru history
much..never, was never
Ukraine ...nor last 23
years...sovereign in real
and no country is Sovereign
full of "Oligarch"
control..thus also
describes all western
countries...
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new Terminus C
Right,
because
the
eastern countries don't
have oligarchs...
Sovereignty is in the
self. Do you, as a
person, have enough
knowledge and power to
be sovereign?
new Matt
Reading
comprehension.
"and no country is
Sovereign full of
"Oligarch"
control..thus also
describes all western
countries..."
No country that is
full of oligarchs,
including the west, is
soveriegn. The
poster in no way
made any exclusion
for any eastern
country.
new dontgoforit
The irony is,
once they
have all the
money it will be worth even
less; perhaps even
'worthless.'
new Oh regional Indian
My feeling is
that we are
going to see a
surprising amoutn of force on
the IMF's side, increasingly.
It is the IRS of the World bank,
in some twisted way.
The enforcer.....the poverty
maker.....
A good name to associate:
Stanley Fischer...
ori
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new 813kml
John Perkins
wrote the
book
(literally) on Economic
Hitmen.
new john39
i agree. they
are pushed
into a corner.
do or die time for them, they
won't turn back from their
dream of total conquest...
not when they believe they
are so close. but alas, all
illusion as they will soon
discover.
Chapter 29
new Mesquite
Reminds me or
a song long
ago...
'..How low can you go...?..."
Limbo Rock, I believe...
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Those who wish
to take the
world and
control it
I see that they
cannot succeed
The world is a
sacred
instrument
One cannot
control it
The one who
controls it will
fail
The one who
grasps it will
lose
Because all
things:
Either lead or
follow
Either blow hot
or cold
Either have
strength or
weakness
Either have
ownership or
take by force
Therefore the
sage:
Eliminates
extremes
Eliminates
excess
Eliminates
arrogance
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new CPL
Let's
congratulate
the IMF first
for the announcement in
confirming what most people
understood what the
organization was all about.
Because in a single public
announcement they've
revealed their weakness,
location, position and
motivations; completely by
accident.
Which is fantastic. Sooner
they throw themselves off
the board, the sooner we
can get started.
What the IMF believes
happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=hPC6Yv3BPVY
What actually just
happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=FAKNf8ARzXc
new Truthseeker2
The WAR for the
Ukraine: What’s the
real story?
new Save_America1st
@Tyler's or
anybody else:
http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2014/pr14189.htm
Any idears why IMF is issueing
Ukraine SDR's (Special Drawing
Rights) rather than fiat U.S.
dollars???
Is there some underlying
message there that dollars are
not good enough maybe???
new Edward1290
get ready for
some Serious
inflation
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new Thought Processor
The dollar will be history.
SDR's will be a
transitional NWO
currency device.
The US dollar has been
used fully and will be
discarded by the NWO as
THE reserve currency
after the reset.
new Herd
Redirectio...
Yep,
the
downside to the
NWO re: the USD has
always been that the
American People
'unfairly' benefitted
from reserve
currency status (as
opposed to the SDR,
which will benefit
ONLY the bankster
elite)
new Cathartes
Aura
nationstates are
fictions, as are
their fiat
currencies.
plug's been
pulled, drain
circling in
progess.
those who write
the fiction-
stories never
wave the fiction-
flags.
that's for the
masses to imbibe.
act accordingly
folks.
new tip e.
canoe
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truth titillates
the
imagination
far less than
fiction.
- marquis de
sade
new Jano
'cause thats
their
bookkeeping.
new hobopants
I just
can't
figure out
what is to be gained by
pissing off Russia, sheer
hubiris or are they
intentionally trying to
destroy the dollar?
new
Arius
.
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