How to become Professional Eng- Ways and method

ROUTE TO BECOME AROUTE TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER (P.Eng)PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER (P.Eng)

Assoc Prof. Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd. SidekAssoc Prof. Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd. SidekCivil Engineering Department

College of EngineeringCopyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd

Sidek

INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONBut first, what is a professional , pengineer?

A professional engineer (Ir or PEng) is a person who is licensed to practiceis licensed to practice engineering in Malaysia after e g ee g a ays a a temeeting all requirements of h l ( PIthe law (e.g. pass PI

Examination)Examination).Ir means GENIUS. Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

What are the 10 reasons forWhat are the 10 reasons for becoming licensed as a PEng or Ir?There are really more than 10 reasons

b t t ill f ll i f t ibut most will fall in four categories . . 1 A legal necessity1. A legal necessity.2. Improved employment security.. p oved e p oy e t secu ty.3. Better opportunities for

advancement.4. Personal satisfaction.

Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

Legal NecessityLegal Necessity

1 If you ever want or need to become1. If you ever want or need to become a consulting engineer, you must be g g , ylicensed as a Ir/PEng.

2. Only a Ir/P.Eng. can sign and seal engineering documents that areengineering documents that are submitted to a public authority or for p ypublic and private clients.


Opportunities for Advancementpp3. Many companies encourage licensure and some

even pay a bonus for becoming a P.Eng.p y g g4. In education, more colleges are requiring a

Ir/P.Eng. license for engineering faculty or for holding certain titlesholding certain titles.

5. In many industry, utility, and government positions a P Eng is required for specified jobs orpositions, a P.Eng. is required for specified jobs or levels.

6. With the engineering profession now operating in6. With the engineering profession now operating in an international environment, licensing may be required to work in or for other countries. You

ill b d i th t iwill be prepared in the event your career moves in this direction (e.g. APEC Engineers, EMF Int. Engineer Register, Washington Accord)Engineer Register, Washington Accord)


Personal SatisfactionPersonal Satisfaction7 Licensure is the mark of a professional7. Licensure is the mark of a professional.

Ethical standards, continuing education, d f i land professional competency are

expected. Ir. before or P.Eng. after your e pected. . be o e o . g. a te youname indicates you have met the t d d d b t dstandards and can be respected as a

professional.p


Improved Employment SecurityImproved Employment Security8. Restructuring, downsizing and outsourcing 8. Restructuring, downsizing and outsourcing

ARE REAL! A P.Eng. or Ir. license may k th diff i fi dimake the difference in finding new

employment.p y9. Industry and utility exemptions are being

li i d i j i di ieliminated in some jurisdictions.10 Continuing education is required for a10. Continuing education is required for a

professional engineer (CPD).


The future Are you ready?The future . . . Are you ready?

Having a Ir or P.Eng. license is the best insurance policy andthe best insurance policy and could affect your career. Thecould affect your career. The time to start is NOW from STUDENT to PEng.


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONRequirements for registration as a Requirements for registration as a Graduate EngineerGraduate Engineer

The recognized academic qualification for registration The recognized academic qualification for registration as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes theas a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes theas a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the as a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the following:following:An engineering degree accredited/recognized by An engineering degree accredited/recognized by g g g g yg g g g y

BEM available in an approved list maintained by BEMBEM available in an approved list maintained by BEMA pass in Part I & part II of the Engineering Council A pass in Part I & part II of the Engineering Council

Examination of United Kingdom or Part I & Part II of Examination of United Kingdom or Part I & Part II of the IEM/BEM Graduate Examination in any particular the IEM/BEM Graduate Examination in any particular branch for qualifications that is notbranch for qualifications that is notbranch for qualifications that is not branch for qualifications that is not accredited/recognized by BEM/IEM.accredited/recognized by BEM/IEM.


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONRequirements for registration as a ProfessionalRequirements for registration as a ProfessionalRequirements for registration as a Professional Requirements for registration as a Professional EngineerEngineer

A did t h li f i t tiA did t h li f i t ti Any candidate who applies for registration as a Any candidate who applies for registration as a Professional Engineer must:Professional Engineer must:Be registered as a Grad ate Engineer ith BEM andBe registered as a Grad ate Engineer ith BEM andBe registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; andBe registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; andHave satisfied the training requirements of BEM; andHave satisfied the training requirements of BEM; andH th P f i l I t i (PI) d bH th P f i l I t i (PI) d bHave passes the Professional Interview (PI) and be Have passes the Professional Interview (PI) and be

elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM) andEngineers Malaysia (IEM) andEngineers Malaysia (IEM) andEngineers Malaysia (IEM) and

Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not less than six months immediately prior to the date ofless than six months immediately prior to the date ofless than six months immediately prior to the date of less than six months immediately prior to the date of application.application.


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONRoute to PE Route to PE –– New SchemeNew Scheme(Applicable to Engineer who register with BEM after 1 Jan. 2005)(Applicable to Engineer who register with BEM after 1 Jan. 2005)

Professional R i i

GRADUATE ACADEMIC TRAININGRegistrationREGISTRATION

Graduate Graduate

REQUIREMENTS

Accredited Accredited Engineering Degree Engineering Degree

Min 3 years Min 3 years experienceexperience ProfessionalProfessional

Engineer Engineer (BEM) & (BEM) & Graduate Graduate

Member (IEM)Member (IEM)

(normal route)(normal route)

IEM/BEM Part IIIEM/BEM Part II

Training record (Log Training record (Log book)book)

Course attendanceCourse attendance

Professional Professional Interview (PI)Interview (PI)

PassPass

( )( )

Unrecognised Unrecognised Engineering Engineering

DegreeDegree

Recognised Recognised Masters in Masters in

EngineeringEngineering

Professional Professional development Program development Program (PDP)(PDP)

MIEM Registration @

IEM

Graduate Graduate

Recognised Engineering Recognised Engineering Degree: Degree:

Twinning/Twinning/

Min 6 years Min 6 years experienceexperience

Training recordTraining recordP.Eng.

Registration @ EngineerEngineer--

with with restrictionrestriction

Twinning/ Twinning/ Off campus/Distance Off campus/Distance

learninglearning

Engineering CouncilEngineering Council

Course attendanceCourse attendance

PDPPDP

Continuing educationContinuing education

g @BEM

Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10

Engineering Council Engineering Council (Full Certificate)(Full Certificate)

Continuing educationContinuing educationCPD


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONBasic Training Requirements Basic Training Requirements –– New SchemeNew Scheme

TheThe NeedNeed forfor NewNew SchemeScheme –– WHYWHY ?? According to BEM announcement (According to BEM announcement (JuruteraJurutera Feb 1998) new trainingFeb 1998) new training According to BEM announcement (According to BEM announcement (JuruteraJurutera, Feb. 1998) new training , Feb. 1998) new training

requirements were required due to the following two main reasons:requirements were required due to the following two main reasons:i.i. To safe guard the profession and for quality assurance since To safe guard the profession and for quality assurance since

Engineering students can obtain their degrees through various ways Engineering students can obtain their degrees through various ways g ee g stude ts ca obta t e deg ees t oug a ous aysg ee g stude ts ca obta t e deg ees t oug a ous ayssuch as approved twinning programs, partsuch as approved twinning programs, part--time courses and distance time courses and distance learning programslearning programs

ii.ii. A need to raise the standard of Professional Engineers to prepare them A need to raise the standard of Professional Engineers to prepare them for global competitionfor global competition

The new requirements include:The new requirements include: Extended training periodExtended training period Compulsory courses attendanceCompulsory courses attendance Professional Development Program (PDP)Professional Development Program (PDP) Continuing engineering education program in line with global Continuing engineering education program in line with global

developmentdevelopment The Professional Interview which comprises an oral interview and essayThe Professional Interview which comprises an oral interview and essay--

writing remains unchanged. The revised training requirements are listed in writing remains unchanged. The revised training requirements are listed in Table ITable ITable I.Table I.


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONTable I. Revised training requirements for Graduate EngineerTable I. Revised training requirements for Graduate Engineer

Training Activity Graduates from Accredited Programs

Graduates from Approved Twinning, Part-Time, Distance

Learning ProgramsMinimum working experienceMinimum working experience 3 years3 years 6 years6 years

General training linking engineering General training linking engineering t t ti lt t ti l

2 years (min.) 2 years (min.) 3 years (min.)3 years (min.)concepts to practicalconcepts to practical

Professional career development Professional career development training, e.g. skills awareness, project training, e.g. skills awareness, project management, logical approach, team management, logical approach, team

1 years (min.)1 years (min.) 3 years (min.)3 years (min.)

g , g pp ,g , g pp ,work, responsibility, etc. work, responsibility, etc. Satisfactory attendance at courses Satisfactory attendance at courses conducted by BEM or any institutions conducted by BEM or any institutions approved by BEM such as IEMapproved by BEM such as IEM

Code of ethics 12 hoursCode of ethics 12 hours Health & safety, relevant by laws/regulations 12 hoursHealth & safety, relevant by laws/regulations 12 hours

approved by BEM such as IEMapproved by BEM such as IEM Engineering management practice 12 hours Engineering management practice 12 hours Topics related to engineering discipline 24 hoursTopics related to engineering discipline 24 hours

Professional Development Program Professional Development Program (PDP) lk i i(PDP) lk i i

30 units30 units 45 units45 units(PDP) e.g. talks, seminars, society (PDP) e.g. talks, seminars, society meeting and community services (1 meeting and community services (1 unit = 1 hour participation, up to 4 unit = 1 hour participation, up to 4 units/day)units/day)Continuing education programContinuing education program -- 24 days24 days

Source: Jurutera, August 2001, pg. 7-10Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

Mandatory Training: General StructureMandatory Training: General Structure

Graduate Engineer Registered with BEMGraduate Engineer Registered with BEM

O i ti ith PEO i ti ith PE O i ti ith t PEO i ti ith t PEOrganisation with PEOrganisation with PE Organisation without PEOrganisation without PE

Mentor (in the same discipline)Mentor (in the same discipline) selected selected by the Graduate Engineer or IEMby the Graduate Engineer or IEM

Training Training –– Supervised by a registered Supervised by a registered Professional EngineerProfessional Engineer

Same disciplineSame disciplineUse IEM Logbook regularlyUse IEM Logbook regularly

Same disciplineSame disciplineWithin the same organisationWithin the same organisation

Meet Mentor regularly for Meet Mentor regularly for discussion/guidance/certification of discussion/guidance/certification of

Graduate’s work at quarterly intervalsGraduate’s work at quarterly intervalsCertification of Graduate’sCertification of Graduate’s

Logbook to be endorsed by IEM at Logbook to be endorsed by IEM at least once a yearleast once a year

Certification of Graduate s Certification of Graduate s work experiencework experience


least once a yearleast once a year


PASS


PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EXAMINATIONPROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EXAMINATIONGraduate Engineer Registered with BEMGraduate Engineer Registered with BEM

Submit forms IEM/P1(1) & IEM/P1 (2) Submit forms IEM/P1(1) & IEM/P1 (2) –– IEMIEM

Professional Interview (PI)Professional Interview (PI)

MIEM Registration @ IEM

P. Eng Registration @ BEM

CPD (50 hours/year)CPD (50 hours/year)


Board of Engineers Malaysia (LJM) has decided that starting Jan 1, 2007, the PAE will be conducted solely by IEM on behalf of the board.Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

How to become a PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER? (1)ENGINEER? (1)

To become a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) a did t tcandidate must:-

1. Register themselves with the Board of Engineers upon graduation as it is compulsory under the Engineers Act 1967 for all practicingit is compulsory under the Engineers Act 1967 for all practicing engineers to register with the Board.

2. After registration with the Board, the engineer could approach towards their objectives of obtaining Professional Engineer (P.Eng) status either on their own or through the IEM Log book( g) g gscheme

3 All GRADUATES ENGINEER are required to complete at least3. All GRADUATES ENGINEER are required to complete at least THREE (3) years of relevant work experience after graduation with an accredited engineering degree. These training stints should be as f ibl b l t d d th id f P f i lfar as possible be completed under the guidance of a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) who is in the same discipline as the GRADUATE ENGINEER. Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

How to become a PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER? (2)ENGINEER? (2)

To become a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) a candidateTo become a Professional Engineer (P.Eng) a candidate must:-

A registered Graduate Engineer is required under Section 10(1)(b) of the Act b i i l i i d b i l d i f h P f i lto obtain practical experience in order to be entitled to sit for the Professional

Interview Examination (PI) which is a prerequisite to apply for registration as a Professional Engineer.

The candidate shall carry out the practical experience in the following manner as prescribed in Regulation 22(1) of the Registration of Engineers Regulations 19901990:

The practical experience that a registered Graduate Engineer is required to p p g g qobtain under section 10 (1) (b) of the Act in order to be entitled to apply for registration as a Professional Engineer shall be carried out in a manner satisfactory to the Board for a period of three years.


HOW TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER?ENGINEER?

1. In the planning, design, execution or management of such works asmanagement of such works as comprised within the profession of engineering (MIN 3 YEARS)

PROFESSIONAL2. In engineering research and at least ONE year of such practical PROFESSIONAL

ENGINEER

least ONE year of such practical experience

3 In the teaching in a course leading to a3. In the teaching in a course leading to a qualification in engineering research; or in the teaching in a course leading to a qualification approved by the Board andqualification approved by the Board and at least ONE year of such practical experience shall be obtained in Malaysia under the supervision of a registeredunder the supervision of a registered Professional Engineer of the same discipline Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

How to become a PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER? (3)

Thi i d f t i i i l l i t i tl This period of training in a local environment is greatly emphasized by BEM as it is of paramount importance for the prospective Professional Engineers to be familiar with the local p p gconditions and by - laws so that they can comply and practise effectively in Malaysia.

Notwithstanding the above, regulation 22(2) stipulates that if the Board is satisfied for sufficient cause or reason, the Board may in f f ff , yany particular case exempt either wholly or partly the requirements as to the practical experience required to be obtained in Malaysia or the requirement as to the supervision by a registered Professionalthe requirement as to the supervision by a registered Professional Engineer in Malaysia; provided that the total practical experience to be obtained shall not be less than three years.


How to become a PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER? IEM Log Book SchemeENGINEER? IEM Log Book Scheme

4. If they opt for the IEM log book scheme, they should follow the procedures documented in the TRAINING SCHEME GUIDELINESprocedures documented in the TRAINING SCHEME GUIDELINES (get ref. from IEM).(i) Mentee should meet with Mentor at least once every three

th t i d di i l t d hi t i i f idmonths to review and discuss issues related his training for guidance and verification.(ii) The logbook must be endorsed by immediate superior for ( ) g y paccuracy and authenticity before mentor can endorsed.(iii) Mentor will advise continuously the mentee and to advise to obtain relevant experience based on expertise for PIobtain relevant experience based on expertise for PI.(iv) The log book must be endorsed by Honorary Sec of IEM once a year.(v) The content of Logbook should include (a) brief description of the jobs or tasks performed by candidate such sketches, or simple diagram. Detail investigation, studies and calculation could be g gsubmitted as attachments to Log book.(b) Record of activities in chronological order and (3) Summary of topics learned during seminars, talks or courses should be


How to become a PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER? Professional InterviewENGINEER? Professional Interview5. Once the candidate complete their training p g

(either on their own or through the IEM Log book scheme) the next step for them is to sit for thescheme), the next step for them is to sit for the Professional Interview conducted by IEM. Once they pass this interview they could be admitted asthey pass this interview they could be admitted as Corporate Members of IEM and are then eligible to apply to the BEM to be registered as Professional Engineer (P.Eng). g ( g)


ACTION PLAN FOR POTENTIAL CANDIDATES

1. If you’ve comply all the requirements, please submit your

CANDIDATESy p y q , p y

application to IEM directly.

2. Submit application form IEM/P1(1) and IEM/P1(2)

3. Submit BEM Registration Letter as a Graduate Engineer

4. Submit Degree and Diplomas Certificates together with transcripts

5.Evidence to show discipline/branch of engr if the information is not in certificatenot in certificate

6. STPM/SPM/GCE/Matriculation or equivalent

7 P f PI f (RM100 f f & RM200 f7. Payment of PI fees (RM100 for transfer case & RM200 for Election case)

8 Forms completed with 1 proposer and 1 seconder8. Forms completed with 1 proposer and 1 seconder


ACTION PLAN FOR POTENTIAL CANDIDATES

9 E i l l b l d f h d f d i d

CANDIDATES9. Experience clearly tabulated after the date of graduation and breakdown of experience recorded in months

10 Signatures of 2 engineers to verify experience on each page10. Signatures of 2 engineers to verify experience on each page of the form.

11. Form IEM/PI(3) to be submitted when called for INTERVIEW/ ( )

12. Name will be circulated in IEM Bulletin in a month.

13 IEM form will be submitted when the interviewers called for13. IEM form will be submitted when the interviewers called for interview.


Extra exam for engineering grads to qualify as professionals• Graduate engineers will soon find it tougher to call themselves professional engineers g g p g

and to carry the Ir title before their name. The bar for the profession will be raised come 2008 with the introduction of an additional competency examination.

•• Citing greater competition with the advance of globalisation it was about time the• Citing greater competition with the advance of globalisation, it was about time the

bar was raised and better engineers were produced. “The additional examination will cover competency in the practice as well as in the laws of the land”.

• The current system allows for graduate engineers with at least three years' working experience to sit a single examination called the Professional Assessment Examination (PAE). Upon passing the PAE, the engineer would be considered a professional and would earn the right to use the “Ir” title.would earn the right to use the Ir title.

• But come Jan 1, 2008, candidates who want to sit the PAE will also have to sit for the competency examination. Engineers who fail the competency examination would not be considered professionals.

•• Board of Engineers Malaysia (LJM) has decided that starting Jan 1, 2007, the PAE

will be conducted solely by IEM on behalf of the board.••• All stakeholders of construction projects to eliminate corruption by enforcing the

existing code of ethics to safeguard the profession's good name.•• “We need to place a greater emphasis on self-regulation to ensure that ethical practice

and quality works are consistently carried out”.Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONDocuments to be Submitted for P.Eng. AssessmentDocuments to be Submitted for P.Eng. Assessment

11 Report on Graduate Engineer’s training and experience prepared in accordance withReport on Graduate Engineer’s training and experience prepared in accordance with1.1. Report on Graduate Engineer’s training and experience prepared in accordance with Report on Graduate Engineer’s training and experience prepared in accordance with the PI regulationsthe PI regulations

Report to be verified by a P.Eng. (e.g. Mentor)Report to be verified by a P.Eng. (e.g. Mentor)p y g ( g )p y g ( g )

2.2. Report on a project carried out by the Graduate Engineer during the course of his/her Report on a project carried out by the Graduate Engineer during the course of his/her experience as tabulated in item No. 1. The report shall include design calculations experience as tabulated in item No. 1. The report shall include design calculations

d/ i i d i d t h i l d lt bt i dd/ i i d i d t h i l d lt bt i dand/or engineering drawings, procedures or techniques employed, results obtained, and/or engineering drawings, procedures or techniques employed, results obtained, discussion and conclusionsdiscussion and conclusions

Report or Case Study to be verified by a P.Eng.Report or Case Study to be verified by a P.Eng.p y y gp y y g This will form part of the topic of discussion during the professional interviewThis will form part of the topic of discussion during the professional interview

3.3. Logbook if applicableLogbook if applicable

Verified by Mentor and endorsed by IEMVerified by Mentor and endorsed by IEM

Notes: A P.I candidate must submit documents showing evidence of his/her engineeringg g gexperience. It can be in form of drawings with calculation attached. The candidate must alsosubmit a report in chronological order describing the work he has undertaken sincegraduation. The report must indicate clearly the engineering problems encountered by thecandidate and his/her solution to overcome this situation The candidate needs to have ancandidate and his/her solution to overcome this situation. The candidate needs to have anunderstanding of cost, quantities & magnitude, knowledge of technical standards and code ofpractices and the various restrictions on their applications in solving the problem encountered.Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONProfessional Assessment Examination (PAE) orProfessional Assessment Examination (PAE) orProfessional Interview (PI)Professional Interview (PI)

InterviewInterviewBasic Questions:Basic Questions:

te ete e

Basic engineeringBasic engineering Training & ExperienceTraining & Experience

•• What has the candidate done ?What has the candidate done ?•• Why has the candidate done it ?Why has the candidate done it ?•• Does the candidate fully understand Does the candidate fully understand

Projects undertakenProjects undertaken Duration = 0.5 to 1 hourDuration = 0.5 to 1 hour

Write two (2) essay Write two (2) essay

the engineering concept involved ? the engineering concept involved ? •• What engineering decision has the What engineering decision has the

candidate made ?candidate made ?Wh t i ti ti d id tiWh t i ti ti d id ti

Section A: Training & Experience Section A: Training & Experience Question to be given by the interviewer at the time of interviewQuestion to be given by the interviewer at the time of interview

•• What investigation and consideration What investigation and consideration undertaken to reach conclusions ?undertaken to reach conclusions ?

Section B: Code of EthicsSection B: Code of EthicsQuestions (~ 10Questions (~ 10--12) available to the candidate prior to PI. However, the interviewer 12) available to the candidate prior to PI. However, the interviewer will select the question to be attempted by the candidate at the time of interviewwill select the question to be attempted by the candidate at the time of interview

D ti 1 5 h h tiD ti 1 5 h h ti Duration = 1.5 hours each questionDuration = 1.5 hours each question

Competency Examination & Laws of Land (40Competency Examination & Laws of Land (40--50 MCQ) will be conducted by BEM50 MCQ) will be conducted by BEM

Notes: The reason is to allow the candidate a chance to clarify certain points that were notproperly expressed during the interview. The second essay is on the code of ethics.Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONProfessional Interview: The ExpectationProfessional Interview: The Expectation

To assess the candidate’s practical experienceTo assess the candidate’s practical experience NOT ONLYNOT ONLY on aon a To assess the candidate s practical experience To assess the candidate s practical experience NOT ONLYNOT ONLY on a on a TIME BASISTIME BASIS but also on but also on MERITMERIT

The purpose of ORAL interview is to clarify certain points stated in th t d t t i h th th did t did t ththe report and to ascertain whether the candidate did carry out the job. The engineering experience gained should include planning-design, investigation-field, work-construction, supervision & management and general engineering related activitiesmanagement and general engineering related activities.

In general the interview is intended to test the candidate’s:In general the interview is intended to test the candidate’s:

Understanding of the application of engineering principles to the solutions of Understanding of the application of engineering principles to the solutions of problems arising in the investigation, planning, design or construction of problems arising in the investigation, planning, design or construction of engineering works or researchengineering works or research

Capacity to accept professional responsibilityCapacity to accept professional responsibility Ability to communicate Ability to communicate –– can write and present clear and concise mannercan write and present clear and concise manner Awareness of current issues pertaining to his/her field of engineeringAwareness of current issues pertaining to his/her field of engineering Ability to discuss/debate a wide range of current topics and at the same time Ability to discuss/debate a wide range of current topics and at the same time

be aware of the Code of Professional Conduct be aware of the Code of Professional Conduct

New exam requirements:(1) Competency in the practice as well as in the laws of the land.


INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONGraduate Engineer: The Way ForwardGraduate Engineer: The Way Forwardg yg y

Graduate Graduate E iE i

Mentor & LogbookMentor & Logbook•• Discuss with a Discuss with a mentor in yourmentor in your

Do your Homework!Do your Homework!Get as much info fromGet as much info fromEngineer Engineer

Registration Registration •• BEMBEM•• IEMIEM

mentor in your mentor in your discipline discipline

•• Check with IEM Check with IEM about the Logbookabout the Logbook

Get as much info. from Get as much info. from BEM & IEM about current BEM & IEM about current procedures and training procedures and training requirement/scheme to requirement/scheme to

become a PEbecome a PEabout the Logbook about the Logbook schemescheme

become a PEbecome a PE

GraduateGraduate Professional Professional

H Pl d Mil tH Pl d Mil t

Graduate Graduate EngineerEngineer EngineerEngineer

(P.Eng., MIEM)(P.Eng., MIEM)

Have a Plan and MilestonesHave a Plan and Milestones•• The most important component is the The most important component is the TRAINING requirementTRAINING requirement

S t GOALS & PLAN h tS t GOALS & PLAN h t

Initiative, Commitment & Initiative, Commitment & Professionalism !Professionalism !

•• Your effort = 80%Your effort = 80%

•• Set your GOALS & PLAN how to Set your GOALS & PLAN how to achieve the MERIT and EXPERIENCE achieve the MERIT and EXPERIENCE needed within the minimum stipulated needed within the minimum stipulated time frame time frame

•• Mentor’s effort = 20%Mentor’s effort = 20%

Failing to Plan, Is a Plan to Fail !Failing to Plan, Is a Plan to Fail !Copyright 2009: AP Ir Dr Lariyah Mohd Sidek

INTRODUCTIONINTRODUCTIONProfessional Engineer: Who’s Who in COEProfessional Engineer: Who’s Who in COEME DepartmentME Department

Prof Ir. Dr. Ibrahim HusseinProf Ir. Dr. Ibrahim Hussein DVC (Academic) officeDVC (Academic) office ext. 7220ext. 7220Prof Ir. Dr. Ibrahim Hussein Prof Ir. Dr. Ibrahim Hussein DVC (Academic) officeDVC (Academic) office ext. 7220ext. 7220Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Ramesh SinghAssoc Prof Ir. Dr. Ramesh Singh BN 3BN 3--070070 ext. 7282ext. 7282Dr Ir JawaidDr Ir JawaidIr Ali Ir Ali SekkarSekkar

EE DepartmentEE Department

A P f I D A MA P f I D A M TT BN 1BN 1 034034 t 7201t 7201Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Au Mau Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Au Mau TengTeng BN 1BN 1--034034 ext. 7201ext. 7201Assoc Prof Ir. Dr Zahrul FaiziAssoc Prof Ir. Dr Zahrul FaiziDr Ir Hj Dr Ir Hj TnTn RashidRashid

CE DepartmentCE Department

Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd Sidek Assoc Prof Ir. Dr. Lariyah Mohd Sidek BN 2BN 2--016016 ext. 7289ext. 7289Ir. Marlinda Abdul MalekIr. Marlinda Abdul Malek BN 1BN 1--043043 ext. 2275ext. 2275Assoc Prof Ir Dr Kamal Assoc Prof Ir Dr Kamal NasharudinNasharudinIr Zakaria Che MudaIr Zakaria Che MudaProf Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md DesaProf Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md DesaProf Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md DesaProf Ir Dr Mohd Nor Md Desa


P f i l E iProfessional Engineer

• Entitlement of Professional Engineer


EntitlementEntitlementEntitlementEntitlement

Section 7(1)(a), REA

N h ll l h iNo person shall, unless he is a registered Professional Engineer, practise, carry on business or take up employment which requires him to p y qcarry out or perform professional engineering servicesengineering services



Section 8(1), REA

N b d th thNo person or body, other than a Professional Engineer or an ECP, shall be entitled to submit plans, engineering surveys, drawings, schemes, proposals, y , g , , p p ,reports, designs or studies to any person or authority in Malaysiaperson or authority in Malaysia



Section 7(1)(aa)(i), REA

N h ll l h iNo person shall, unless he is a registered Professional Engineer, be entitled to describe himself or hold himself out under any name, style or y , ytitle bearing the words “Professional Engineer” or the equivalent thereto inEngineer or the equivalent thereto in any other language



Section 7(1)(aa)(iii), REA

N h ll l h iNo person shall, unless he is a registered Professional Engineer, be entitled to use the abbreviation “Ir” before his name or the abbreviation “P.Eng.” after his name



Section 7(1)(c), REA

N h ll l h iNo person shall, unless he is a registered Professional Engineer, be entitled to recover in any court any fee, charge, remuneration or other form of g ,consideration for any professional engineering services renderedengineering services rendered



Section 7(1)(d), REA

N h ll l h iNo person shall, unless he is a registered Professional Engineer, be entitled to use the stamp as prescribed in the Second Schedule

