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Conversations With Richard HoaglandExcerpt from Leading Edge #88Leading Edge Research GroupP.O.B. 7530, Yelm, Washington State 98597

The following material has been extracted from a public radio interview conducted onOctober 27th, 1995.

Q: France has just torched off another nuclear test.

RH: On Larry King the other night, Larry tried to get French president Chiracto explain the tests, saying essentially that who is going to drop one of thesethings on anybody? Why are you doing this?' Chirac really didn't have ananswer, except to say that a lot of money was spent to set up these tests. Itwas very lame. It is perplexing. The only thing that is not perplexing is theeffects. There are people we have talked to, who are claiming that these testsare having interesting geophysical effects. I have my own thoughts about that,based on our own research, on how that potentially might occur. BruceCathie, some years ago, published a book called Harmonic 33. He notedback in the late 1950's that the pattern of nuclear tests in the Pacific appearedto occur at certain times and positions, in terms of latitude and longitude.

The bottom line was that he arrived at the conclusion that you could notdetonate a nuclear weapon just anywhere and anytime you wanted. He wrotethis down, and was visited by folks from the military, the CIA and theAustralian Defense Ministry. For a while, there was a tremendous amount ofinterest because he had predicted the time and place of the next test. Whenhe sent his material to me, Torun and I went through it and tried to reconcilehis semantics, since he was not using standard terminology. The conclusionCathie came to, again, was that you could only detonate one of these devicesif the geometry relative to nearby celestial objects was correct, and thegeometry on the Earth, relative to the grid, was correct. Certain hyperspacialconditions must be satisfied. By doing this, he was able to predict tests.Ultimately, the conclusion was that because of these protocols, generalnuclear war was impossible. The entire foundation for the 'cold war' was afarce.

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Furthermore, Cathie went on to explore the issue of the siting of nuclearpower plants around the world, and reached the conclusion that they are notsited at random, but they are sited according to the geometry of the globalgrid. The nuclear plant built here on Long Island is at the exact location whereTesla built his tower ostensibly for power transmission. It is at the exactlatitude of the D&M pyramid on Mars -- 40.868 degrees. Nuclear plants seemto work more efficiently on grid nodes.

[We have considered Cathie's perspective before and have wondered whatsort of bearing this may have on nuclear-powered subs or spacecraft. Is thetheory totally erroneous or are these vehicles required to travel along grid"ley" lines in order to function? Does this also explain the apparent insanity ofconstructing nuke plants right on top of faults (which also seem to roughlyfollow grid lines)? Was this the reason Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- two civiliancities -- were targeted for the WWII blast? Again, if the theory was in error,why was Cathie hounded by various intell agencies because of it and whywere his nuclear "test" predictions so accurate? -B:.B:.]

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Q: It seems like they wasted a lot of money over 40 or 50 years during thecold war.

RH: It means they spent a lot of money on something other than what thepublic thought they were spending it on.

Q: Did Cathie check tests in the past to see if they matched his theory?

RH: Yes, but there are aspects of his theory I believe are incorrect. Becausenuclear reactions happen all the time in stars, I believe that it is not absolutelytrue that you must have a special geometry to set off a nuclear test. However,that leads to the question -- why were they setting off all of these tests, asanalysis after the fact shows, according to hyperspacial protocols? They wereexploring the hyperdimensional grid. That is what the French are doing now.Do you know how nuclear physicists conduct experiments on fundamentalparticles?

Q: Not really.

RH: They accelerate particles to near light speed and bombard a target. Thisresults in an output of particles that they examine. It's the 'collision' process. Iam strongly becoming convinced that the nuclear tests, which we were told allthese years were to "perfect weapons," had an objective of probing a wholenew technology based on hyperspacial physics. Now, after the "war" is over,the French are banging off nuclear weapons at 19.5 degrees south latitude.

Q: What would be the objective of detonating weapons at these latitudes?

RH: According to this model, what the government is doing is exploring thedimensions of a kind of hyperdimensional physics that transfers informationbetween dimensions, not only on a rotating hypersphere, a planet, butbetween other planets in the solar system -- perhaps even beyond. It takes a


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lot of energy to get an "echo."

Q: Does the geological activity in the Pacific "ring of fire" relate to thesedetonations?

RH: Well, in theory it has to. We are looking in our work at a geophysicalmodel, and we are seeing a hyperdimensional tetrahedronal geometry (in theEarth). There have been a lot of earthquakes around the world occurring at19.5 degrees. There was one just the other day west of Mexico City, while atthe same time a hurricane was twirling around at 19.5 degrees in the Yucatan.The other morning, during an eclipse of the sun at dawn, there was a majorearthquake in China at about 22.5 degrees. This is part of this model ofphysics. The question that everyone has been wondering is -- whether thesenuclear tests are triggering geological activity. I can't give you a 100%certainty, but there does seem to be a time-lag of a few days, and a latitudepattern, that would strongly indicate that there is some kind of connection.Now, the next question is -- is it deliberate, or is it just inadvertent? Are theFrench totally unaware that they are triggering a tetrahedronal responsepattern in the "ring of fire?" We aren't sure.

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Q: What is it about 19.5 degrees that is important?

RH: About 12 years ago, we began looking at the 1976 photos of Mars andnoticed the face at Cydonia and the complex. We realized that there was ageometry connecting these features that showed up again and again. Thesame geometry is present at sacred sites on Earth. The point of 19.5 degreesis the tip of a tetrahedronal point inside the planet reflecting hyperdimensionalphysics corresponding to planetary energy patterns.

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Q: How do you think they are using this application?

RH: If the last 150 years is any "rule of thumb," we are probably trying todevelop weapons. Nuclear bombs are like candle flames compared toweapons that use hyperdimensional physics.

Q: Suppose you had a bomb based on hyperdimensional physics...

RH: Suppose I had a physics of hyperdimensions, meaning spatialdimensions that are invisible, that are not local -- meaning that you don't haveto physically be at the location of an object that you want to destroy. You dosomething "over here" and something "over there" quietly vanishes. Do yousee how powerful that is?

Q: I'm going to change subjects. Ted Koppel mentioned the discovery ofpossible planets in the Pegasus 51 system. What is all that about?

RH: I don't think this is an accident. There appear to be events that areconverging, both of a geopolitical and historical nature, that are moving us in


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the direction of finally admitting to ourselves certain things that many of ushave known for some time.

Q: Events are obviously accelerating at an increasing rate.

RH: They appear to be accelerating, as well as focusing in certain directions.We have been watching this incredible tragedy in Yugoslavia for five years.The world has been apparently powerless to do anything about it. Now, in thelast several weeks, there has been an acceleration toward peace, with ameeting. What I find remarkable is that they are choosing to meet at Dayton,Ohio at Wright-Patterson AFB. Judy Woodruff on CNN, when announcing this,referred to Wright-Patterson as "a center for UFO research." This is on parwith an event that happened at the closing days of the Bush-Clinton electionin 1992. Now, Reagan made no campaign appearances for Bush except inthe last two days of the campaign.

His first appearance for Bush was Roswell Air Force Base in New Mexico.New Mexico has very few electoral votes. Why choose Roswell, two daysbefore the election? We are looking at "coded communications." Reagan, whospoke on five occasions about aliens, is speaking at Roswell. Is the hiddenmessage here that "they came here in '47 and they're coming back?" In 1995,here we have three parties in the Bosnian conflict who would kill each other ifgiven the chance, and where do we take them? Wright-Patterson. and it wasannounced two days after the movie Roswell aired on television.Coincidence?

Q: You think that...

RH: One elevator ride down to the archives at Wright-Patterson, and thepeace treaty will be signed faster than the OJ verdict.

Q: The whole thing of sending 20,000 Americans to Bosnia is ludicrous,unless, what you say may be true.

RH: That the clock is ticking and there is a timetable to adhere to. I think thereis a major hidden agenda, and that the American people ought to wake upand ask some questions. We are not being told the truth. My biggest concernis not that aliens exist, not that UFOs are real, not that there are ruins onMars, but that it is all a wonderful diversion to keep us from looking at the realessence of this problem, which is the physics, and what is happening underour feet. It would be the worst nightmare to be distracted at the last minute.

Q: Let's change subjects again. What about the ruins on Mars? Is it your viewthat the ancient civilization on Mars is us, or was us?

RH: It's us in the Golden Age of the Greecian myth. It's us before the fall ofthe Judeo-Christian tradition. It's us when we were the Titans. Some of usnever lost it, and in this model they have been playing head-games with therest of us.

Q: And the photos of the structures on the Moon?


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RH: No one in the government or NASA has contested the data. They aresimply not saying anything about it.

Q: What makes you think that the government is involved with hyperspacialphysics?

RH: I have a friend that was in the armed services in the 1970's in CentralAmerica. He was part of a large group of military personnel that were flowninto a location as part of a large battalion of engineers. He said they hauled inlarge portable generators, each of which was capable of lighting a city. Theseguys were part of security. He said that there was an enormous amount ofcopper cable. This equipment was placed at an ancient Meso-American site inthe jungle, in the middle of nowhere, close to 19.5 degrees latitude.

The generators were positioned separately in a geometrical hexagonal patternand energized coils. Given what we know now, this operation must have beento probe the efficacy of the terrestrial hyperdimensional grid. What I need is tohear from people who have been involved with similar programs. [Anyspeculations as to how HAARP might tie into this grid manipulation scenario?-B:.B:.]

Q: What positive kinds of things can you do at hyperdimensional nodes on thegrid?

RH: You could put energy in and change the resonance at the nodes, with theobject of alleviating earth changes.

Q: On the other hand, you might aggravate things...

RH: Well, that's where laboratory data is very important.

Q: So, where is all of this going?

RH: It is my opinion that we are being manipulated into a belief system whichis reaching a critical point. Someone wants us to think a certain way, andthings are being set up so we will follow that perception. It does not follow thatthe perception reflects the truth. One of the predictions involved with thenature of hyperspacial physics is that constants in physics change. Thatseems to be happening. Nuclear constants are changing, which means thatnuclear plants all over the world, whether they are sited on the grid or not, areprobably running " hotter" than they should be, which also means that theremight be more accidents.

Q: Does the world's energy grid extend as high as the radiation belt aroundthe Earth?

RH: Yes. Think of a "spider web" around a sphere, decreasing in density asyou move outward. It is not confined to the surface. In fact, the moon is withinthis web, and all the planets are connected hyperspacially.

Q: What device does the government use to detect the "echo" from thehyperdimensional energy grid after a nuclear explosion?


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RH: I think we ought to refer that question to Bearden. They would generallybe looking for scalar electromagnetic radiation. For a signature.

Q: Tell us more about hyperdimensional physics.

RH: One of the keys to hyperdimensional physics is rotation. Bruce DePalma,a physicist, experimented about 20 years ago with rotation of massivesystems. He did an experiment with a 30- pound concrete disk spinning at8,000 rpm, shielded by mu-metal to prevent EM interference. Suspended overthe disk he had an Accutron watch. The Bulova specs say that the watchgains or loses about 1 second per year. When Bruce brought the watch nearthe disk, it lost 1 second in 20 minutes. He repeated the experiment with anFM receiver, tuned to a station. When the radio was brought over the spinningconcrete disk, the radio de- tuned.

Q: It was affecting the oscillators?

RH: Precisely. What we are trying to figure out it how the hyperdimensionalmodel allows for these effects. It qualitatively accounts for them, but we arenow working on the mathematical details. It's a non-Einsteinian,pre-relativistic, hyperdimensional physics that affects inertia, mass andgravity. Can you imagine all the neat things we could do with this in the publicsector?

Q: If hyperdimensional travel is possible, where are the "hypernauts" visitingin our current time?

RH: You are assuming that they are time travelers. What I am saying is thatthe UFO phenomenon may be the quintessential demonstration of vehicles,based on hyperdimensional physics, traveling not only from star systems inthis dimension, but from other dimensions. Time is basically the "marker" ofenergy flow between systems in three dimensions. If you have a physicswhich alters the flow of energy or information into that system, includingbiological systems, then you can change the flow of time.

Q: What about this alien autopsy film?

RH: Even if the film were a hoax, it would be such a sophisticated one that itis of significance. At John Whites Omega Conference, Linda Howe wasreading the transcribed notes of conversations between Ray Santilli and thephotographer who allegedly took the film. She read exerpts, and one of thethings that came out was that the alien represented came from a crash atSocorro, not Roswell (as the media has been saying). This is why the bodydidn't look like descriptions of the Roswell aliens. In our model, this makessense, in terms of the human genome going out to the stars and coming back.

You would see all sorts of physiological variations return. When Linda read thetranscript, the photographer described to Santilli that he had attempted to goinside the spacecraft to take pictures, and he said he got violently ill. No onecould go inside. This is important -- it was a spatial effect. The cornerstone ofhyperdimensional physics involves spatial effects, and this would have a


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significant effect on human biological systems. This is what I mean by scienceconverging. There is no way that Santilli could have made this stuff up.

Q: What practical application does all of this have?

RH: Creation of an unlimited source of environmentally sound energy. I thinkthat's practical. All important things come first from ideas. If you cannotimagine the unthinkable, than nothing will change. As an aside, I have a 716page report coming to me from Australia that recommends throwing Einstein'sRelativity in the trash can, and returning to pre-Einsteinian classicalMaxwellian 4-space vortex physics.

Q: What about the Hale-Bopp cometary cluster? There have been someinteresting photographs taken of this group, some showing a spiral...

RH: The spiral is easy to explain, since you have objects that are rotating andemitting material. The most interesting point about Hale-Bopp is the separatechunks. The only thing that could cause that is the predominance of the tidalforces of the Sun over the gravity of the comet. But, if that's the case, it meansthis comet cannot be a multiple visitor to our system -- it has to be a first timevisitor, according to celestial mechanics. So, how can it have thecharacteristics of a cluster with a 3600 year periodicity and be a first-timevisitor? Answer: someone has manipulated the orbit. This is another datapoint in the "somebody is tampering with our heads" model. Somebody wantsus to believe a scenario.

Q: Somebody has tampered with the orbit of Hale-Bopp?

RH: Yes, but they forgot to tamper with all of it in a way that would remove theexcess particles around it. Those are now coming off of it, meaning that it is aprimordial object that has never been in this system before. It has beennudged into a trajectory to simulate multiple 3,600 year visits. [Interesting howthe manipulation forces an ostensible conformity to Sitchin's 3600-yearSumerian "shar" as Bramley's "gods of Eden" once again swing on by the'hood. -B:.B:.]

Q: Do you think that the soul is a form of hyperdimensional energy, and if so isit possible for the soul to be destroyed?

RH: Speculatively, yes, it would be a form of hyperdimensional energy.Information is not so easily destroyed. I have come to understand that there isa continuum between consciousness and physics, and that if you look at usas one end of the spectrum, what makes us different is the consciousnessaspect. If we learn more about this physics, inevitably we will learn moreabout consciousness.

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