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GW detectors optimized for the kHz range Francesco MARIN for the DUAL-RD collaboration

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GW detectors optimized for the kHz range. Francesco MARIN for the DUAL-RD collaboration. Motivation …. Try to design a detector design devoted to the kHz range. Hopefully compact sensitive cheap… … Back to the beginning. Usual detection strategies…. z. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: GW detectors optimized for the kHz range

GW detectors optimized for the kHz range

Francesco MARIN for the DUAL-RD collaboration

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Motivation …

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Try to design a detector design devoted to the kHz

range. Hopefully

compact

sensitive

cheap…

… Back to the beginning

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Usual detection strategies…

Lh

L2

L

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Usual detection strategies…

Lh

L2

L

L zh

F 2

2

z )(2 2

0

22

0

2

iLh

L

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Usual detection strategies…

L zh

F 2

2

)(2 2

0

22

0

2

iLh

L

G

G · =

0.0 0.5 1.0 1.51

10

100

1000

10000

L (

m)

0

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… Back to interferometers …

lopt/ hlopt/

lopt=NLL

Seems better to get the longest possible lopt. However…

limited by quantum noise (SQL):

()2 = hlaser/2Pin

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… the useful measurement time is just T/2

(T is the g.w. period: T = 2/)

lopt = c T/2

laser h T/2

hmin

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lopt = c T/2

laser h T/2

No more dependence on L if we can keep an high N

(we just have to keep ‘light on flight’ for a time T/2)

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Ex.: 3 kHz lopt 50 km

L = 3 km

N 17

OR… reduce L, increase N. Present limit from mirror losses ( 1 ppm): N 106

L = 5 cm

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In favour of long interferometers: less sensitive to ‘local’ noise

(effect 1/L) such as

• Thermal noise ( go to cryogenic)

• Radiation pressure ( go to larger masses)

However, present (and future) interferometers are not limited

by such effects in the > kHz range.

room for shortening

Moreover…

For close mirrors, again some (new) useful effects

from elastic forces

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D

LLd

S

M

For SM we have ‘free’, ‘rigid’ masses

d h/2 D ( >> h/2 d ) ‘Gain’ D/d ( 100)

0.0 0.5 1.0 1.51

10

100

1000

10000

L (

m)

0

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First (??? at least recently) proposed system of this kind:

the DUAL SPHERE (2001)

‘free moving’ sphereRint h Rint

‘rigid’ sphere

M. Cerdonio et al. Phys. Rev. Lett. 87 031101 (2001)

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Constraints

If L is too large, M is low

- limit to L

- better high sound velocity

Limit to L limit to the mass M effect of back-action

(radiation pressure) cannot be lowered indefinitely

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Back-action reduction

S 0 M

F

D

L

d

D = - F/M2 L = F/M(M2 – 2)

d = (F/M) [-1/2 + 1/ (M2 – 2)]

d = 0 for = M/2

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Back-action reduction

710

Frequency (kHz)

711 712

1

100

0,01

From T. Briant, talk given last Sunday

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S 0 M

F

D

L

d

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SQL: N = 1

1 optimized to get a ‘flat’ S/N

If Sxx dominates, the best material has the largest vs

(allowing the largest L)

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Thermal noise f(x) 1

Test mass volume

M/Form factor

Sopt scales as 03

The best material has the lower 1.5/Y2.5

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Mo Si SiC

Density 10.3 2.3 3.2

Young (GPa) 330 150 450

1.5/Y2.5 1.7 E-23 1.3 E-23 1.3 E-24

Sound velocity (m/s) 5600 8000 11900

Diameter (m) for M = 4 kHz

0.6 1.0 1.5

Sopt (cylinder 3 m) 1.9 E-23 2.0 E-23 7.6 E-24

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Thermal noise

For 0 = 5 kHz:

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Low freq. suspension

Possible implementation

S ( ~ 100 Hz )

Nodal link

Either optical (Folded Fabry Perot) or capacitive readout

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‘QUAD’ detector

X1, F1

X3, F3

X4, F4X2, F2

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0 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 80001E-24

1E-23

1E-22

1E-21GEOLIGO

VIRGO+

LIGO Adv.

Frequency (Hz)

Mo QUAD (3m SQL) Mo QUAD (3m Sxx = 10^-44 m^2/Hz)

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0 2000 4000 6000 8000 10000 120001E-23

1E-22

1E-21

1E-20

GEOLIGO

VIRGO+

LIGO Adv.

Frequency (Hz)

Si QUAD (dia 45cm)

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0 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 80001E-24

1E-23

1E-22

1E-21

SiC QUAD (3m SQL)

GEOLIGO

VIRGO+

LIGO Adv.

Frequency (Hz)

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Mo nested cylinders 16.4 ton height 2.3m 0.94m

SiC nested cylinders 62.2 ton height 3.0m 2.9m

Q/T=2x108 K-1

M. Bonaldi et al. Phys. Rev. D 68 102004 (2003)

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X1

X4

X3

X2

X = x1+x2-x3-x4

X1

x1

Example of Thermal and BA noise reduction using selective readout

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Single mass DUAL Detector

The DUAL concept which works between two modes of two different bodies can work also between two modes of the SAME body

the deformation of the inner surface has “opposite sign” for the first and the second quadrupolar mode

An hollow cylinder can work as a DUAL

(mode) detector

the internal diameter is the length to be measured for the detection

M. Bonaldi et al. Phys. Rev. D submitted. Also on gr-qc/0605004

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+ =

+ =

+ =

First quad

. mod

e

Second

quad. mode

Frequency

The phase difference concept still holds

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Double channel readout

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0.3

0.55

1 1 2 2

2 2 2 2, , , ,{ , }T og T og x T og T og xMAX X X X X

Antenna pattern: like 2 IFO at 45°

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Complete transfer function

MolibdenumRext = 0.5mRint = 0.15mL = 3m

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CONCLUSIONS: we are just beginning

Problems:- SQL readout- availability of large masses (depends on materials)-cosmic rays (underground?)- links between test masses- cryogenic possibilities vs dissipated power- …

Strong R&D necessary (2-3 yrs ?) Help and ideas welcome