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Getting and Using Current Getting and Using Current Career Data to Help Students Career Data to Help Students Prepare for Careers that will Prepare for Careers that will be in Demand when be in Demand when they Graduate they Graduate Chris Droessler Chris Droessler School-to-Career Coordinator School-to-Career Coordinator Wake County Public School System Wake County Public School System Raleigh, North Carolina Raleigh, North Carolina

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Getting and Using Getting and Using Current Career Data to Current Career Data to

Help Students Prepare for Help Students Prepare for Careers that will be in Careers that will be in

Demand when Demand when they Graduatethey Graduate

Chris DroesslerChris DroesslerSchool-to-Career CoordinatorSchool-to-Career Coordinator

Wake County Public School SystemWake County Public School System

Raleigh, North CarolinaRaleigh, North Carolina

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If we really want to If we really want to

prepare our students for prepare our students for

successful careers, we successful careers, we

need to know all we can need to know all we can

about the rapidly about the rapidly

changing job market.changing job market.

C DroesslerC Droessler

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Making decisions based on real data,Making decisions based on real data,

- - not -not -

“because we’ve always done it that “because we’ve always done it that

way.”way.”

Data-Driven Decision Data-Driven Decision

MakingMaking

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This slide was removed after the This slide was removed after the presentation was made and replaced presentation was made and replaced with the following slide. Apparently with the following slide. Apparently many scholars are quoting these same many scholars are quoting these same data charts from the same bad source.data charts from the same bad source.

If you see three pie charts comparing If you see three pie charts comparing unskilledunskilled, , skilledskilled, and , and professionalprofessional labor labor changes from 1950 to 1991 to 2000, be changes from 1950 to 1991 to 2000, be suspect. The data source might be suspect. The data source might be listed as the Department of Labor or the listed as the Department of Labor or the Bureau of Labor Statistics.Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Data have apparently never been kept Data have apparently never been kept by those agencies using these by those agencies using these categories.categories.

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Jobs in 2014 (USA)Jobs in 2014 (USA)

U.S. Department of Labor - Bureau of Labor Statisticshttp://stats.bls.gov/emp/optd/optd001.pdf

high school high school degree or lessdegree or less

high school/high school/some collegesome college

college degreecollege degreeor higheror higher

12.8%12.8%

45.4%45.4%

12.4%12.4%

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Bachelor’s degree

Bachelor + work exp.Master’s degreeDoctorate degree

Professional1,2 year college

Associate degree

short OJT

mod. OJT

long OJT

work exp.

2012 Projected NC Employment:2012 Projected NC Employment:Education RequiredEducation Required

NC Employment Security Commission

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2004 NC High School Graduate 2004 NC High School Graduate IntentionsIntentions

Public SeniorPublic SeniorInstitutionsInstitutions

Private SeniorPrivate SeniorInstitutionsInstitutions

Community andTechnical Colleges

PrivateJuniorColleges

Trade andBusinessSchools

Military

EmploymentOther

NC Public Schools Statistical Profile 2005

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Postsecondary Intentions vs. Postsecondary Intentions vs. RealityReality

Graduate IntentionsGraduate Intentions Education RequiredEducation Required

4 year

4 year

1-2 year1-2 year

OJT

OJT47.4%

35.9%

13%9%

63.8%

19%

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Fastest Growing Occup. in Fastest Growing Occup. in NCNC

(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)23,10023,100 Registered Nurses Registered Nurses 22,04022,040 Cashiers Cashiers 21,60021,600 Retail Salespersons Retail Salespersons 17,29017,290 Waiters and Waitresses Waiters and Waitresses 16,62016,620 Combined Food Preparation and Serving WorkersCombined Food Preparation and Serving Workers14,64014,640 Nursing Aides, Orderlies, and Attendants Nursing Aides, Orderlies, and Attendants 14,22014,220 Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer 13,98013,980 Customer Service Representatives Customer Service Representatives 13,04013,040 General and Operations Managers General and Operations Managers 12,31012,310 Janitors and Cleaners, Except Maids Janitors and Cleaners, Except Maids 10,78010,780 First-line Supervisors/Managers - Retail SalesFirst-line Supervisors/Managers - Retail Sales10,17010,170 Home Health Aides Home Health Aides 9,0309,030 Office Clerks, General Office Clerks, General

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Fastest Growing Occup. in Fastest Growing Occup. in USAUSA

(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)623,510623,510 Registered Nurses Registered Nurses 602,600602,600 Postsecondary TeachersPostsecondary Teachers598,910598,910 Retail Salespersons Retail Salespersons 460,250460,250 Customer Service Representatives Customer Service Representatives 454,320454,320 Combined Food Preparation and Serving WorkersCombined Food Preparation and Serving Workers454,270454,270 Cashiers Cashiers 410,570410,570 Janitors and Cleaners, Except Maids Janitors and Cleaners, Except Maids 376,030376,030 General and Operations Managers General and Operations Managers 367,390367,390 Waiters and Waitresses Waiters and Waitresses 343,000343,000 Nursing Aides, Orderlies, and Attendants Nursing Aides, Orderlies, and Attendants 337,600337,600 Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer 324,650324,650 Receptionists and Information ClerksReceptionists and Information Clerks317,690317,690 Security GuardsSecurity Guards

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Fastest Declining Occup. Fastest Declining Occup. in NCin NC

(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)-11,860 Farmers and Ranchers -7,280 Textile Winding, Twisting, Machine Setters, Operators-6,200 Sewing Machine Operators -5,280 Textile Knitting / Weaving Machine Setters, Operators-2,580 Textile Bleaching & Dyeing Machine Operators -2,280 Textile, Apparel, & Furnishings Workers, all other-1,560 Industrial Machinery Mechanics -1,460 Inspectors, Testers, Sorters, Samplers & Weighers -1,100 Farm, Ranch, and Other Agricultural Managers

-990 Upholsterers -970 Order Clerks -970 Textile Cutting Machine Setters, Operators,

Tenders-900 Helpers--Production Workers -810 Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Workers, all

other

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Fastest Declining Occup. in Fastest Declining Occup. in USAUSA

(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)(Total New Positions Projected from 2002 - 2012)-207,570 Farmers and Ranchers -98,950 Sewing Machine Operators -89,920 Word Processors and Typists-68,060 Stock Clerks and Order Filers -56,530 Secretaries, except Legal, Medical, and Executive-51,310 Electrical and Electronic Equipment Assemblers -30,420 Computer Operators -27,980 Telephone Operators -26,420 Postal Service Mail Sorters, Processors-23,340 Loan Interviewers and Clerks-21,310 Data Entry Keyers-21,090 Telemarketers -20,440 Textile Knitting & Weaving Mach. Setters, Operators-19,850 Textile Winding, Twisting, Drawing Out Mach. Setters

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56% of bachelor’s-seeking students getdegree in 6 years (35% in 4 years)

National Center for Education Statistics,U.S. Department of Education (nces.ed.gov)

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It makes you think?It makes you think?

What happens to ourWhat happens to our4-year program dropouts?4-year program dropouts?

Did we send them toDid we send them tothe wrong school? the wrong school?

25% of all students at 25% of all students at Wake Tech Community College Wake Tech Community College

have a 4-year degree.have a 4-year degree.

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““We need to foster a We need to foster a flexible education systemflexible education system----one that one that integrates work and trainingintegrates work and training and that and that serves the needs both of experienced workers at serves the needs both of experienced workers at different stages in their careers and of different stages in their careers and of students students embarkingembarking on their initial course of study. on their initial course of study. Community collegesCommunity colleges, for example, have become , for example, have become important providers of job skills trainingimportant providers of job skills training not just not just for students who may eventually move on to a for students who may eventually move on to a four-year college or university but for individuals four-year college or university but for individuals with jobs--particularly older workers seeking to with jobs--particularly older workers seeking to retool or retrain.”retool or retrain.”

Alan Greenspan, Alan Greenspan, Chairman, Federal ReserveChairman, Federal Reserve

April 11th, 2000April 11th, 2000

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Jobs for Everyone!Jobs for Everyone!What we look for in our crystal ball:What we look for in our crystal ball:

• • Fastest growing occupationsFastest growing occupations

• • Most annual openings Most annual openings

• • High demand occupationsHigh demand occupations

• • Education requiredEducation required

• • Jobs with potential for advancementJobs with potential for advancement

• • Future-proof occupationsFuture-proof occupations

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Career Outloo

k Handb

ook

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NC Career Outlook NC Career Outlook HandbookHandbook

• Fastest growing occupations in North CarolinaFastest growing occupations in North Carolina• Most annual openings in North CarolinaMost annual openings in North Carolina• Most annual openings based on minimum Most annual openings based on minimum

educational requirements:educational requirements:• Vocational degreeVocational degree• Associate degreeAssociate degree• Bachelor degreeBachelor degree

• High demand listed by:High demand listed by:• Education requirementsEducation requirements• Starting salariesStarting salaries

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On the Job Training On the Job Training RequiredRequired

(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)$25,830 mod. OJT Cargo and Freight Agents $25,420 mod. OJT Sales Representatives, Services, all other $23,100 mod. OJT Truck Drivers, Heavy and Tractor-Trailer $22,970 long OJT Recreational Vehicle Service Technicians $22,790 mod. OJT Dental Assistants $22,730 long OJT HVACR Mechanics and Installers $22,500 short OJT Sailors and Marine Oilers $22,490 long OJT Telecom. Line Installers and Repairers $22,490 long OJT Welders, Cutters, Solderers, and Brazers $22,460 mod. OJT Drywall and Ceiling Tile Installers $22,400 long OJT Reinforcing Iron and Rebar Workers $22,300 long OJT Audio and Video Equipment Technicians $22,230 mod. OJT Tapers $21,630 long OJT Motorcycle Mechanics

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Associate Degree Associate Degree RequiredRequired

(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)

$46,110 Nuclear Medicine Technologists $45,430 Dental Hygienists $44,030 Radiation Therapists $42,840 Diagnostic Medical Sonographers $38,860 Registered Nurses $38,180 Computer Specialists, all other $35,050 Respiratory Therapists $34,030 Radiologic Technologists and Technicians $32,850 Electro-Mechanical Technicians $31,310 Physical Therapist Assistants $27,650 Computer Support Specialists $27,290 Occupational Therapist Assistants $26,830 Biological Technicians

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Bachelor Degree RequiredBachelor Degree Required(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)

$55,520 Computer Software Engineers, Systems $53,920 Physician Assistants $50,810 Computer Software Engineers, Applications $47,550 Health Diagnosing & Treating Practitioners$46,110 Biomedical Engineers $44,780 Environmental Engineers $44,750 Computer Systems Analysts $44,080 Occupational Therapists $41,770 Network Systems & Data Comm. Analysts$41,540 Network & Computer Systems Administrators $40,720 Sales Engineers $39,800 Social Workers, all other $39,310 Logisticians

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Doctorate Degree Doctorate Degree RequiredRequired

(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)

$52,770 Physicists

$48,300 Medical Scientists, except

Epidemiologists

$25,650-$47,070 College/University Professor

$38,012 College/University Professor

(average)

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Associate Degree Associate Degree RequiredRequired

(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)(2002 NC Starting Salaries - 2012 High Demand)

$46,110 Nuclear Medicine Technologists $45,430 Dental Hygienists $44,030 Radiation Therapists $42,840 Diagnostic Medical Sonographers $38,860 Registered Nurses $38,180 Computer Specialists, all other $35,050 Respiratory Therapists $34,030 Radiologic Technologists and Technicians $32,850 Electro-Mechanical Technicians $31,310 Physical Therapist Assistants $27,650 Computer Support Specialists $27,290 Occupational Therapist Assistants $26,830 Biological Technicians

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NC Career Pathway ChartsNC Career Pathway Charts

Careers organized by 11 NC Career PathwaysCareers organized by 11 NC Career Pathways• Minimum education requiredMinimum education required• Number of workers in NCNumber of workers in NC• Average starting salaryAverage starting salary• Average salaryAverage salary• Growth outlookGrowth outlook• SOC codesSOC codes

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NC Career PathwaysNC Career PathwaysAgricultural and Natural Resources TechnologiesAgricultural and Natural Resources Technologies

Arts and SciencesArts and Sciences

Biological and Chemical TechnologiesBiological and Chemical Technologies

Business TechnologiesBusiness Technologies

Commercial and Artistic Production TechnologiesCommercial and Artistic Production Technologies

Construction TechnologiesConstruction Technologies

Engineering TechnologiesEngineering Technologies

Health SciencesHealth Sciences

Industrial TechnologiesIndustrial Technologies

Public Service TechnologiesPublic Service Technologies

Transport Systems TechnologiesTransport Systems Technologies

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Why?Why?•StudentsStudents - Learn which careers will have - Learn which careers will have openings when they are ready to join the openings when they are ready to join the workforce.workforce.

•ParentsParents - Help their children decide which - Help their children decide which career to pursue.career to pursue.

•TeachersTeachers - Know which careers are in high - Know which careers are in high demand so they can relate their teachings demand so they can relate their teachings to careers. (Relevance) to careers. (Relevance)

•BusinessesBusinesses - Give business people the data - Give business people the data they need to discuss careers with our they need to discuss careers with our students. (Relationships)students. (Relationships)

Milwaukee Room @ 3:15 TodayMilwaukee Room @ 3:15 Today

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www.www.nnccccareerareerooutlook.com utlook.com

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Our MissionOur MissionHelp our students find the right career:Help our students find the right career:

• High demand occupations in growing High demand occupations in growing

industriesindustries• ROI - Education vs. SalaryROI - Education vs. Salary• Jobs with potential for advancementJobs with potential for advancement• Future-proof occupationsFuture-proof occupations• Transferable skillsTransferable skills• Job satisfactionJob satisfaction

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Everybody’s Working For The Weekend (Loverboy)

Take This Job And Shove It (Johnny Paycheck)

Rainy Days And Mondays Always Get Me Down (Carpenters)

I Don’t Like Mondays (Boomtown Rats)

Don’t Talk To Me About Work (Lou Reed )

The Work Song (Billy Squier)

Goin’ To Work (Martina McBride )

Off To Work (Chicago)

I’ve Been Working On The Railroad (John Denver)

I Don’t Wanna Work That Hard (Blaine Larsen)

Seven Day Weekend (Abc)

The Weekend Song (Alanis Morissette)

Living For The Weekend (Hard-Fi)

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Passion and PurposePassion and Purpose

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Thanks for Thanks for coming!coming!

www.wcpss.net/school_to_career

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