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Economic Outlook: Beyond the Recession ESICA Spring Conference The Tides Inn – Irvington, VA May 6, 2010 Ann Battle Macheras Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond

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Page 1: Economic Outlook: Beyond the Recession ESICA Spring Conference The Tides Inn – Irvington, VA May 6, 2010 Ann Battle Macheras Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond

Economic Outlook:Beyond the RecessionESICA Spring Conference

The Tides Inn – Irvington, VAMay 6, 2010

Ann Battle Macheras

Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond

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Overview• National Economic Trends

• GDP• Employment• Business Activity

Construction Indicators• Construction Put in Place• Commercial Vacancy Rates• Property Prices

Financial Markets• Lending for Commercial Real Estate

• What to Expect?

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National Economic Trends

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US Gross Domestic ProductPercent Change, Seasonally Adjusted Annual Rate

-8.0

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

% C

hang

e, S

AAR

1Q: 2010US: 3.2%

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

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Real Gross Domestic Product

10000.0

10500.0

11000.0

11500.0

12000.0

12500.0

13000.0

13500.0

14000.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

2005

US Dol

lars

(Billio

ns)

1Q:13,254.7

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

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Real Gross Domestic Product 2010

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1

CHANGE FROM PREVIOUS QUARTER AT COMPOUND ANNUAL RATE [Percent]:

Gross Domestic Product -6.4 -0.7 2.2 5.6 3.2

Personal Consumption Expenditures 0.6 -0.9 2.8 1.6 3.6

Nonresidential Fixed Investment -39.2 -9.6 -5.9 5.3 4.1Structures -43.6 -17.3 -18.4 -18.0 -14.0Equipment & Software -36.4 -4.9 1.5 19.0 13.4

Residential Fixed Investment -38.2 -23.3 18.9 3.8 -10.9

Exports of Goods & Services -29.9 -4.1 17.8 22.8 5.8Imports of Goods & Services -36.4 -14.7 21.3 15.8 8.9

Final Sales to Domestic Purchasers -6.4 -0.9 2.3 1.4 2.2

LEVEL IN QUARTER AT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED ANNUAL RATE [Billions of Chained (2005) Dollars]:

Change in Private Inventories -113.9 -160.2 -139.2 -19.7 31.1

Net Exports of Goods & Services -386.5 -330.4 -357.4 -348.0 -367.0

-1.8

2009

Government Consumption Expenditures & Gross Investment

-2.6 6.7 2.6 -1.3

Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis/Haver Analytics

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Non-Residential Fixed Investment

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

-50.0

-40.0

-30.0

-20.0

-10.0

0.0

10.0

20.0

30.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

% C

hang

e fro

m p

revi

ous Q

uarter

at a

n Ann

ual R

ate

1Q4.31%

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Real Non-Residential Fixed InvestmentEquipment and Software

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

-40.0

-30.0

-20.0

-10.0

0.0

10.0

20.0

30.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

% C

hang

e fro

m p

revi

ous Q

uarter

at a

n Ann

ual R

ate

1Q13.4%

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Non-Residential Fixed Investment in Structures

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

-50.0

-40.0

-30.0

-20.0

-10.0

0.0

10.0

20.0

30.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

% C

hang

e fro

m p

revi

ous Q

uarter

at a

n Ann

ual R

ate

1Q-14.0%

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Real Non-Residential Fixed Investment in Structures

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

300.0

320.0

340.0

360.0

380.0

400.0

420.0

440.0

460.0

480.0

500.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

2005

US Dol

lars

(Billio

ns)

1Q:348.3

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Nonfarm Payroll EmploymentAverage Monthly Change

-900

-800

-700

-600

-500

-400

-300

-200

-100

0

100

200

300

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Ave

rage

Mon

thly

Cha

nge,

Tho

us.

Monthly ChangeJan: 14Feb: -14

Mar: 162

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics/Haver Analytics

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Industry Growth in the United StatesPercent Change in Employment from a Year Ago

-0.3

-1.3

-0.7

1.8

-1.2

-3.2

-4.7

-1.8

-5.2

-10.5

-1.7

1.2

-0.8

-0.6

2.0

0.5

-2.9

-4.9

-1.8

-6.2

-10.9

-1.1

-12.0 -9.0 -6.0 -3.0 0.0 3.0

Government

Other

Leisure & Hospitality

Education & Health Services

Professional & Business Services

Financial Activities

Information

Trade, Transportation & Utilities

Manufacturing

Natural Resources & Construction

Total

Percent Change

March 2010

Fifth District

U.S.

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Unemployment Rate

0.0

1.0

2.0

3.0

4.0

5.0

6.0

7.0

8.0

9.0

10.0

11.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Perc

ent

March:9.7%

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics/Haver Analytics

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Retail Sales

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

-12.0

-10.0

-8.0

-6.0

-4.0

-2.0

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Perc

ent C

hang

e fro

m ye

ar a

go

% Change:Jan: 4.1%Feb: 3.9%Mar: 7.6%

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Personal Income and Expenditures

Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

-4.0

-3.0

-2.0

-1.0

0.0

1.0

2.0

3.0

4.0

5.0

6.0

7.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

YoY

% C

hg

Real Personal Consumption Expenditures

Real Personal Income

March 2010RPCE: 2.4%RPI: 1.0%

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ISM Manufacturing and Non-Manufacturing Surveys

20

25

30

35

40

45

50

55

60

65

30

35

40

45

50

55

60

65

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

ISM Manufacturing ISM Non-Manufacturing

Source: Institute of Supply Managers

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Richmond Manufacturing Composite Index:MD, DC, VA, WV, NC, SC

20

25

30

35

40

45

50

55

60

65

-60

-50

-40

-30

-20

-10

0

10

20

30

40

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Richmond Manufacturing Survey

Richmond Manufacturing Survey

Source: Federal Reserve Board/Haver Analytics

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Manufacturing Activity – Regional Surveys

Philadelphia New York

Source: Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia and Federal Reserve Bank of New York

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

0.8

0.9

1

-40.0

-30.0

-20.0

-10.0

0.0

10.0

20.0

30.0

40.0

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Empire State Manufacturing Survey

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

0.8

0.9

1

-50.0

-40.0

-30.0

-20.0

-10.0

0.0

10.0

20.0

30.0

2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Business Outlook Survey

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Industrial ProductionIndex: 2002=100

90

92

94

96

98

100

102

104

106

108

110

112

114

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Source: Federal Reserve Board/Haver Analytics

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Capacity UtilizationIndex: 2002=100

64

66

68

70

72

74

76

78

80

82

84

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Source: Federal Reserve Board/Haver Analytics

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Core Capital Goods

45

50

55

60

65

70

2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Curre

nt $

, Billi

ons New Orders

Shipments

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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Construction Indicators

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U.S. Construction Put in PlaceTotal and Private Construction

500

575

650

725

800

875

950

1025

1100

1175

1250

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Billio

ns o

f US

$ (S

AAR)

Total Construction PIPPrivate Construction PIP

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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U.S. Construction Put in PlaceOffice and Commercial Construction

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

90

100

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Billio

ns o

f US

$ (S

AAR)

Office Construction PIPCommercial Construction PIP

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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U.S. Construction Put in PlacePower and Manufacturing Construction

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

80

90

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Billio

ns o

f US

$ (S

AAR)

Power Construction PIPManufacturing Construction PIP

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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Regional Construction Put in PlaceTotal Private Construction

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

Billio

ns o

f US

$

New England

Mid-Atlantic

South Atlantic

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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Regional Construction Put in PlaceOffice Construction

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

Billio

ns o

f US

$

New England

Mid-Atlantic

South Atlantic

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Regional Construction Put in PlaceCommercial Construction

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

0

2

4

6

8

10

12

14

16

18

20

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

Billio

ns o

f US

$

New England

Mid-Atlantic

South Atlantic

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Regional Construction Put in PlaceManufacturing Construction

Source: US Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

0

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

Billio

ns o

f US

$

New England

Mid-Atlantic

South Atlantic

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U.S. Commercial Real Estate

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

14.0

16.0

18.0

20.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Perc

ent

U.S. Office Vacancy Rate

U.S. Industrial Availability Rate

Source: CB Richard Ellis/Haver Analytics

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Regional Commercial Real EstateOffice Vacancy Rates

Source: CB Richard Ellis/Haver Analytics

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

14.0

16.0

18.0

20.0

22.0

24.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Perc

ent

BaltimoreBostonPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.

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Regional Commercial Real EstateIndustrial Availability Rates

Source: CB Richard Ellis/Haver Analytics

0.0

2.0

4.0

6.0

8.0

10.0

12.0

14.0

16.0

18.0

20.0

22.0

24.0

26.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Perc

ent

BaltimoreBostonPhiladelphiaWashington, D.C.

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Employment’s Relationship to Residential and Commercial Property Prices

Source: Moody’s/REAL, BLS, Haver Analytics

Moody’s/REAL Commercial Property Price Index: Dec. 2000=100

124

126

128

130

132

134

136

138

140

80

100

120

140

160

180

200

2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

Milli

ons of

Jobs

Inde

x

Commercial Property Price Index U.S. Payroll Employment

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Financial Markets

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Fed Funds Rate

0.00.51.01.52.02.53.03.54.04.55.05.56.06.57.0

1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

Target RangeTarget RateEffective Rate

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Lending for Commercial Real EstateNet Percentage Tightening Standards

-40.0

-20.0

0.0

20.0

40.0

60.0

80.0

100.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

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Lending for Commercial Real EstateNet Percentage Reporting Stronger Demand

-80.0

-60.0

-40.0

-20.0

0.0

20.0

40.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011

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Possible Future Scenarios?

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Gross Domestic Product – What to Expect?

96

98

100

102

104

106

108

110

112

114

96

98

100

102

104

106

108

110

112

114

t-8 t-7 t-6 t-5 t-4 t-3 t-2 t-1 t t+1 t+2 t+3 t+4 t+5 t+6 t+7 t+8Months Before/After NBER Business Cycle Trough (Recessions end at t)

Post-War Average

1981:Q3 -1982:Q4

1990:Q3 -1991:Q1

2001:Q1 -2001:Q4

2007:Q4 -2009:Q2

Index, Trough=100

Note: For the most recent recession, t= 2Q:2009Source: BEA/Haver Analytics

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Nonfarm Payroll Employment – What to Expect?

94

96

98

100

102

104

106

108

94

96

98

100

102

104

106

108

t-24 t-20 t-16 t-12 t-8 t-4 t t+4 t+8 t+12 t+16 t+20 t+24Months Before/After NBER Business Cycle Trough (Recessions end at t)

Post-War Average

1981:Q3 -1982:Q4

1990:Q3 -1991:Q1

2001:Q1 -2001:Q4

2007:Q4 -2009:Q2

Index, Trough=100

Note: For the most recent recession, t= June 2009Source: BLS/Haver Analytics

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Private Nonresidential Construction – What to Expect?

76

80

84

88

92

96

100

104

108

112

116

76

80

84

88

92

96

100

104

108

112

116

t-24 t-20 t-16 t-12 t-8 t-4 t t+4 t+8 t+12 t+16 t+20 t+24Months Before/After NBER Business Cycle Trough (recession end at t)

Post-War Average

1981:Q3 -1982:Q4

1990:Q3 -1991:Q1

2001:Q1 -2001:Q4

2007:Q4 -2009:Q2

Index, Trough=100

Note: For the most recent recession, t= June 2009Source: Census Bureau/Haver Analytics

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Looking Ahead for 2010:

• Positive developments:• Job losses tapering off and gains setting in• Consumer spending strengthening• Business investment and increased activity• Global markets reinforcing the recovery

• Risks to the recovery

• Stubborn unemployment

• Housing slow to rebound

• Commercial real estate – continued drag

• State and local revenue shortfalls – another drag

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Links for Data:

• Construction Put In Place: http://www.census.gov/const/www/c30index.html(the links on the lefthand side take you to additional pages with more

detail for each category)

• Senior Loan Officer Survey – Measures of Supply and Demand for Commercial Real Estate Loans: http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/SnLoanSurvey/default.htm

• National Indicators, such as GDP, Personal Consumption, etc. – Charts available in pdf files, with sources listed belowhttp://www.richmondfed.org/research/national_economy/national_economic_indicators/index.cfm

Ann’s email: [email protected]

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The views and opinions expressed herein are those of the author. They do not represent an official position of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond or the Federal Reserve System.

Questions?… and thank you!