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July 2010
Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Submission
TGad July 2010 ReportDate: 2010-07-13
Name Company Address Phone email Eldad Perahia Intel
Corporation
2111 NE 25th Ave Hillsboro, OR 97124
503-712-8081 [email protected]
Authors:
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Meeting Protocol
• Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot
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Attendance• https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/attendance/index
1. Register
2. Indicate attendance
See document 11-09-0517r0 for more details
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status• Make sure your badges are correct
• If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising
• Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area– see Adrian Stephens – [email protected]
• Cell Phones Silent or Off
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Patent Policy
• Following 5 slides
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Instructions for the WG ChairThe IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee:
– Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation– Advise the WG attendees that:
• The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;
• Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged;
• There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.
– Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting:
• That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown;
• That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard
• Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.
– The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance.
– It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual 6.3.5 and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference.
Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board.
(Optional to be shown)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to InformAll participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
– “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
• “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
– “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
– The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2• Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged• No duty to perform a patent search
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Patent Related LinksAll participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3
Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html
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If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html
This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
• If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
– Either speak up now or
– Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
– Cause an LOA to be submitted
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
• All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
– Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
– Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
• Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
– Technical considerations remain primary focus
– Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
– Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
– Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.---------------------------------------------------------------
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more
details.
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Agenda Items for the Week
• Call for secretary
• Set agenda for the week
• Review from May
• Approve minutes from May
• Editor Report
• Review conference calls• ITU-R 60 GHz liaison
– Also on the 802.18 agenda for Wed AM1 in Madeleine AB
• Comment resolution on D0.1
• Other presentations
• Planning for September
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Submissions
• ITU-R liaison– 11-10/824r0
• China WPAN mmWave liaison– Eldad Perahia (Th PM1)
• Comment Resolution– Proposed resolutions embedded in 10/717r6– 10/833r0, Assaf Kasher– 10/883r0, Thomas Derham (Wed PM2)– 10/887r1, Brad Lynch (Th AM1)– 10/884r0 & 10/899r1, Dan Harkins (Th AM1)– 10/902r0 & 10/903r0, Zhou Lan (Th AM1)
• Other– 10/0732r2, “Further Rotation Modulation Application”, Wu Zhanji and
Luo Zhengdong
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Tentative TGad Agenda for the Week
• Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30– Call for secretary– Review from May– Review conference calls– Approve minutes from May– Editor Report– ITU-R 60 GHz liaison– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Tuesday July 13th, 13:30 – 15:30– Call for secretary– ITU-R 60 GHz liaison– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Tuesday July 13th, 16:00 – 18:00– Call for secretary– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Tuesday July 13th, 19:30 – 21:30– Call for secretary– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Wednesday July 14th, 13:30-15:50– Call for secretary – Motions on resolved CIDs– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Wednesday July 14th, 16:00-18:00– Call for secretary– Comment resolution on D0.1
• Thursday July 15th, 8:00 – 10:00 – Call for secretary – Comment resolution on D0.1
• Thursday July 15th, 13:30 – 15:30 – Call for secretary– Motions on resolved CIDs– China WPAN GHZ liaison request (10/869)– Planning for September – Goals for September– Conference calls– Comment resolution on D0.1
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Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30
• Call for secretary
• Set agenda for the week
• Review from May
• Approve minutes from May
• Editor report
• Review conference calls• ITU-R 60 GHz liaison
• Comment resolution on D0.1
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Review from May
• Complete proposals presentations• New Technique proposal presentations• Vote to confirm 10/433r2 as TGad D0.1 passed 68/0/1• Initiated comment submission period• Editor election
– Carlos Cordeiro elected as TGad Editor, by acclamation
• Channel Modeling– Enterprise cubicle model complete– Channel model document updated and approved 44/0/1
• ITU-R 60GHz liaison discussion, 10/647
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May Minutes
• Motion to approve May ‘10 TGad minutes as contained in 11-10-0559r0
• Move: Vinko• Second: James
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Editor Report
• 11-10/823r0
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Review of Conference Calls
• Cumulative minutes from 2010 in 10/0013r3
• One call on July 1, 2010 10:00 ET
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Notes for Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30
• All comment resolution submission requests withdrawn• ITR-R 60GHz liaison, 10/824r0 presented
– Feedback on ITU-R liaison response due by start of Tues PM1 meeting, with motion to be run during Tues PM1
– Will be presented in 802.18 on Wed AM1
• 10/0732r2 presented• Comment resolution, 10/717r3
– CIDs 6, 7, 16, 18, 19, 28, 69, 70, 123, 124, 71 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1
– CID 45 defer, requested by Yuichi, will be included in submission by Toyoda
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 13:30 – 15:30
• ITU-R 60GHz liaison– 802.15.3c related changes were added to 10/824r1, but then
removed based on discussion that 10/824 is a submission from 802.11 and 802.15 should submit 802.15.3c related changes as they are the 802.15.3c experts
– Motion passed to forward to 802.18 (see next slide)
• Comment Resolution– 10/833r1, PHY comments
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ITU-R 60GHz Liaison Motion
• Move to request that the 802.11 WG chair forward 11-10/824r2 to 802.18 as the response to ITU-R 60GHz liaison– Move/second: Ali Sadri / Shu Kato
– Yes: 40
– No: 1
– Abs: 4
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 16:00 – 18:00
• Comment Resolution– 10/833r1, PHY comments, continued;
• no objections to resolutions in 10/833r2• Will be motioned on Wed PM1
– Process discussion on Editorial comments• Editorial comments will be actioned by editor• Will not be individually reviewed and motioned in TG sessions• Motion of draft will cover resolutions to Editorial comments• However, participants are welcome to bring to the attention of editor any issues with
resolutions
– 10/717r4• CIDs 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 92, 93, 94, 105, 129, 106,
107, 108, 114, 127, 136, 138, 139, 143, 144, 155, 157, 158, 160, 172 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1
• CID 84, 88, 89, 90, 91 deferred; email will be sent to commenter requesting a submission by September
• CID 168 reclassified by commenter as Editorial
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 19:30 – 21:30
• Comment Resolution– 10/717r4
• CIDs 174, 177, 181, 182, 183, 185, 187, 188, 189, 192, 198, 199, 200, 201, 208, 209, 191, 210, 211, 214, 216, 220, 224, 228, 229, 230, 233, 236, 242, 243, 245 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1
• CID 225 deferred, assigned to Brian Hart
• CID 232 deferred, assigned to Solomon Trainin
• CID 234 withdrawn by commenter
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Notes for Wed July 14th, 13:30 – 15:30
• Motions on next slide approved
• Comment Resolution– 10/717r5
• CIDs 169, 248, 252, 253, 255, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 283, 293, 300, 305, 308, 310 resolved, will be motioned on Th PM1
• CID 247 deferred, assigned to Solomon Trainin
• CID 309 deferred to give commenter more time to review proposed resolution
• CID 320 deferred, assigned to Avinash/Carlos
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Motion #1
• Moved: Approve resolution of all comments found in document 11-10/0833r2.– PHY comment group
– no objections to resolutions during review
• Move/Second: Carlos/Sai
• Approved by acclamation
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Motion #2
• Moved: Approve resolution of comments 6, 7, 16, 18, 19, 28, 69, 70, 123, 124, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 92, 93, 94, 105, 129, 106, 107, 108, 114, 127, 136, 138, 139, 143, 144, 155, 157, 158, 160, 172, 174, 177, 181, 182, 183, 185, 187, 188, 189, 192, 198, 199, 200, 201, 208, 209, 191, 210, 211, 214, 216, 220, 224, 228, 229, 230, 233, 236, 242, 243, 245, found in document 11-10/0717r5.– no objection to resolutions during review
• Move/Second: Sai/Brad
• Approved by acclamation
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Notes for Wed July 14th, 16:00 – 18:00
• Comment Resolution– 10/883r0, Thomas Derham
• CID 96 – modified resolution in r1, will be motioned on Th PM1
• CID 98 – deferred, assigned to Thomas/Chris/Carlos/Solomon/Assaf
• CID 99 – withdrawn by commenter
• CID 292 – deferred, assigned to Thomas/Assaf
– 10/717r6• CIDs 309, 311, 327, 322 will be motioned on Th PM1
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Notes for Th July 15th, 8:00 – 10:00
• Comment Resolution– 10/887r1, Brad Lynch (15 min)
• PHY CIDs• CIDs 409, 410, 411, 415 resolved w/ no objection• Will be motioned on Th PM1
– 10/902r0 & 10/903r0, Zhou Lan (15 min)• CID 335 resolved w/ no objection• Will be motioned on Th PM1
– 10/884r0 & 10/899r1, Dan Harkins• CIDs 115, 116, 117, 118, 121, 122• See strawpolls next slide• Allocate one conference call for security
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Strawpolls on 10/884r0
• Do you support the resolution in 10/884r0 to CIDs 115, 116, 117, 118, 121, 122 on the topic of security?– Y,n,a – 2/27/22
• Do you view the current use of PSK in TGad D0.1 as a problem?– Y,n,a – 1/13/25
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Comment resolution, continued
• 10/901r1– CID 377, resolved with no objection
– Will be motioned on Th PM1
• 10/717r8– CIDs 102,103, 287, 325, 334, 376, 378, 419, 424, 428, 429, 430,
431, 474, 484, resolved with no objection
– CID 336 – withdrawn by commenter
– CID 382 – needs more discussion
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Agenda for Th July 15th, 13:30 – 15:30
• China WPAN GHZ liaison request (10/921, 10/869)
• Conference calls
• Planning for September
• Goals for September
• Motions on resolved CIDs (after 14:15)
• Comment resolution on D0.1– 10/717r10
– 10/914r0, 10/920r0
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Conference call times
• New conference calls– Not overlap with TGac– Aug 19, Sept 2, Sept 30
• 10:00-12:00 EDT– Aug 12, 26, Sept 23, Oct 7
• 20:00-22:00 EDT
• All calls between July and Sept IEEE meetings
– July 22, 10:00-12:00 EDT• Assaf
– July 29, 20:00-22:00 EDT• Thomas, Toyoda-san
– Aug 5, 10:00-12:00 EDT• Solomon, Brad
– Aug 12, 20:00-22:00 EDT• Carlos, Sai
– Aug 19, 10:00-12:00 EDT• Security
– Aug 26, 20:00-22:00 EDT• MIB, Brian
– Sept 2, 10:00-12:00 EDT• Liwen
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Open Technical CIDs (1/2)
Volunteer CID # (TR only) Conference call date
Assaf 3, 56, 292, 316, 317, 318, 319, 346, 386, 405, 406, 407, 408, 412, 413, 414, 416, 417, 418, 438, 447, 448, 449, 461
July 22, 10:00-12:00 EDT
Sai 13, 100, 288, 289, 290, 291, 312, 314, 321, 340, 374, 381, 427, 434, 452, 453, 464, 465, 477, 481, 482
Aug 12, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Brad 56 Aug 5, 10:00-12:00 EDT
Carlos 58, 59, 316, 317, 323, 326, 328, 332, 333, 375, 422, 433, 440, 445, 175, 348
Aug 12, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Thomas Derham 98, 292, 318, 319, 386, 438 July 29, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Solomon 384, 385, 387, 388, 435, 439, 454, 466, 471, 472, 473, 475, 476, 479, 480, 91, 112, 113, 141, 232, 247, 330, 331
Aug 5, 10:00-12:00 EDT
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Open Technical CIDs (2/2)
Chris Hansen 98 Aug 12, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Naveen 371, 372
James Yee 389, 487
Toyoda-san 440, 45 July 29, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Liwen 84, 88, 89, 90, 91 Sept 2, 10:00-12:00 EDT
Dan Harkin/Yong 115 thru 122 Aug 19, 10:00-12:00 EDT
Daniel Borges 156, 353 thru 368 Aug 26, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Brian Hart 159, 225, 256 Aug 26, 20:00-22:00 EDT
Kapseok 368 Aug 26, 20:00-22:00 EDT
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Motion #3
• Moved: Approve resolution of CID 96 found in document 11-10/0883r1.– no objections to resolution during review
• Move/Second: Thomas/Carlos
• Passes with no objection
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Motion #4
• Moved: Approve resolution of comments 169, 248, 252, 253, 255, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 283, 293, 300, 305, 308, 310, 309, 311, 327, 322, found in document 11-10/0717r9.– no objection to resolutions during review
• Move/Second: Solomon/Sai
• Passes with no objection
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Motion #5
• Moved: Approve resolution of all CIDs found in document 11-10/0887r2– no objections to resolution during review
• Move/Second: Brad/Assaf
• Passes with no objection
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Motion #6
• Moved: Approve resolution of CID 335 found in document 11-10/0902r0– no objections to resolution during review
• Move/Second: Zhou Lan/Carlos
• Passes with no objection
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Motion #7
• Moved: Approve resolution of CID 377 found in document 11-10/0901r1– no objections to resolution during review
• Move/Second: Carlos/Kato
• Passes with no objection
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Motion #8
• Moved: Approve resolution of comments 102,103, 287, 325, 334, 376, 378, 419, 424, 428, 429, 430, 431, 474, 484, found in document 11-10/0717r9.– no objection to resolutions during review
• Move/Second: Sai/Solomon
• Passes with no objection
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Goals for September
• Complete Comment Resolution• ITU-R 60 GHz liaison
– Wed 16:00-18:00
• CWPAN liaison• LB on D1.0
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Notes for Th July 15th, 13:30 – 15:30
• Comment Resolution– 10/914r0, 10/920r0
• CIDs 330, 331, resolved by no objection
• needs to be motioned in Sept
– 10/717r10• CID 320, resolved by no objection
• needs to be motioned in Sept