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Derivation of the Maxwell-Schr¨ odinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian Nikolai Leopold Joint work with Peter Pickl (arXiv:1609.01545) Oberwolfach, September 12, 2017 Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schr¨ odinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equationsfrom the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

Nikolai Leopold

Joint work with Peter Pickl(arXiv:1609.01545)

Oberwolfach, September 12, 2017

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Outline of the talk

Motivation

Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian/Maxwell-Schrodinger equations

Main theorem

Idea of the proof

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Motivation

Question

Is it possible to derive Maxwell’s equations from Quantumelectrodynamics?

Physicists look at Heisenberg equations of the field operators.

More rigorous: find a physical situation which gives Maxwell’sequations in some limit.

|α0〉〈α0|N→∞←−−−− γ

(0,1)N,0 ←−−−− ΨN,0 −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,0

N→∞−−−−→ |ϕ0〉〈ϕ0|

eff .

y y y y yeff .

|αt〉〈αt | ←−−−−N→∞

γ(0,1)N,t ←−−−− ΨN,t −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,t −−−−→

N→∞|ϕt〉〈ϕt |

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Motivation

Question

Is it possible to derive Maxwell’s equations from Quantumelectrodynamics?

Physicists look at Heisenberg equations of the field operators.

More rigorous: find a physical situation which gives Maxwell’sequations in some limit.

|α0〉〈α0|N→∞←−−−− γ

(0,1)N,0 ←−−−− ΨN,0 −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,0

N→∞−−−−→ |ϕ0〉〈ϕ0|

eff .

y y y y yeff .

|αt〉〈αt | ←−−−−N→∞

γ(0,1)N,t ←−−−− ΨN,t −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,t −−−−→

N→∞|ϕt〉〈ϕt |

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Motivation

Question

Is it possible to derive Maxwell’s equations from Quantumelectrodynamics?

Physicists look at Heisenberg equations of the field operators.

More rigorous: find a physical situation which gives Maxwell’sequations in some limit.

|α0〉〈α0|N→∞←−−−− γ

(0,1)N,0 ←−−−− ΨN,0 −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,0

N→∞−−−−→ |ϕ0〉〈ϕ0|

eff .

y y y y yeff .

|αt〉〈αt | ←−−−−N→∞

γ(0,1)N,t ←−−−− ΨN,t −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,t −−−−→

N→∞|ϕt〉〈ϕt |

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Motivation

Question

Is it possible to derive Maxwell’s equations from Quantumelectrodynamics?

Physicists look at Heisenberg equations of the field operators.

More rigorous: find a physical situation which gives Maxwell’sequations in some limit.

|α0〉〈α0|N→∞←−−−− γ

(0,1)N,0 ←−−−− ΨN,0 −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,0

N→∞−−−−→ |ϕ0〉〈ϕ0|

eff .

y y y y yeff .

|αt〉〈αt | ←−−−−N→∞

γ(0,1)N,t ←−−−− ΨN,t −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,t −−−−→

N→∞|ϕt〉〈ϕt |

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Motivation

Question

Is it possible to derive Maxwell’s equations from Quantumelectrodynamics?

Physicists look at Heisenberg equations of the field operators.

More rigorous: find a physical situation which gives Maxwell’sequations in some limit.

|α0〉〈α0|N→∞←−−−− γ

(0,1)N,0 ←−−−− ΨN,0 −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,0

N→∞−−−−→ |ϕ0〉〈ϕ0|

eff .

y y y y yeff .

|αt〉〈αt | ←−−−−N→∞

γ(0,1)N,t ←−−−− ΨN,t −−−−→ γ

(1,0)N,t −−−−→

N→∞|ϕt〉〈ϕt |

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Spinless Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

i∂tΨN,t =HNΨN,t

with

HN =N∑

j=1

(−i∇j −

Aκ(xj )√N

)2

+1

N

∑1≤j<k≤N

1

|xj − xk |+ Hf ,

Aκ(x) =∑λ=1,2

∫d3k

κ(k)√2|k |

ελ(k)(e ikxa(k , λ) + e−ikxa∗(k, λ)

).

two types of particles: (non-relativistic) bosons and photons,

photons have two polarizations ε1(k), ε2(k) (∇ · Aκ = 0),

H = L2(R3N)⊗ [⊕n≥0h⊗n

s ] with h = L2(R3)⊗ C2,

scaling: kinetic and potential energy are of the same order.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Spinless Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

i∂tΨN,t =HNΨN,t

with

HN =N∑

j=1

(−i∇j −

Aκ(xj )√N

)2

+1

N

∑1≤j<k≤N

1

|xj − xk |+ Hf ,

Aκ(x) =∑λ=1,2

∫d3k

κ(k)√2|k |

ελ(k)(e ikxa(k , λ) + e−ikxa∗(k, λ)

).

two types of particles: (non-relativistic) bosons and photons,

photons have two polarizations ε1(k), ε2(k) (∇ · Aκ = 0),

H = L2(R3N)⊗ [⊕n≥0h⊗n

s ] with h = L2(R3)⊗ C2,

scaling: kinetic and potential energy are of the same order.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Spinless Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

i∂tΨN,t =HNΨN,t

with

HN =N∑

j=1

(−i∇j −

Aκ(xj )√N

)2

+1

N

∑1≤j<k≤N

1

|xj − xk |+ Hf ,

Aκ(x) =∑λ=1,2

∫d3k

κ(k)√2|k |

ελ(k)(e ikxa(k , λ) + e−ikxa∗(k, λ)

).

two types of particles: (non-relativistic) bosons and photons,

photons have two polarizations ε1(k), ε2(k) (∇ · Aκ = 0),

H = L2(R3N)⊗ [⊕n≥0h⊗n

s ] with h = L2(R3)⊗ C2,

scaling: kinetic and potential energy are of the same order.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Spinless Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

i∂tΨN,t =HNΨN,t

with

HN =N∑

j=1

(−i∇j −

Aκ(xj )√N

)2

+1

N

∑1≤j<k≤N

1

|xj − xk |+ Hf ,

Aκ(x) =∑λ=1,2

∫d3k

κ(k)√2|k |

ελ(k)(e ikxa(k , λ) + e−ikxa∗(k, λ)

).

two types of particles: (non-relativistic) bosons and photons,

photons have two polarizations ε1(k), ε2(k) (∇ · Aκ = 0),

H = L2(R3N)⊗ [⊕n≥0h⊗n

s ] with h = L2(R3)⊗ C2,

scaling: kinetic and potential energy are of the same order.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Spinless Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

i∂tΨN,t =HNΨN,t

with

HN =N∑

j=1

(−i∇j −

Aκ(xj )√N

)2

+1

N

∑1≤j<k≤N

1

|xj − xk |+ Hf ,

Aκ(x) =∑λ=1,2

∫d3k

κ(k)√2|k |

ελ(k)(e ikxa(k , λ) + e−ikxa∗(k, λ)

).

two types of particles: (non-relativistic) bosons and photons,

photons have two polarizations ε1(k), ε2(k) (∇ · Aκ = 0),

H = L2(R3N)⊗ [⊕n≥0h⊗n

s ] with h = L2(R3)⊗ C2,

scaling: kinetic and potential energy are of the same order.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Maxwell-Schrodinger system of equations

i∂tϕt(x) =(

(−i∇− (κ ∗ A)(x , t))2 + (| · |−1 ∗ |ϕt |2)(x))ϕt(x),

∇ · A(x , t) = 0,

∂tA(x , t) = −E (x , t),

∂tE (x , t) = (−∆A) (x , t)−(1−∇div∆−1

)(κ ∗ j t) (x),

j t(x) = 2(Im(ϕ∗t∇ϕt)(x)− |ϕt |2(x)(κ ∗ A)(x , t)

)with initial datum

ϕ0,

A(x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2

∫d3k 1√

2|k|ελ(k)

(e ikxα0(k, λ) + e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

),

E (x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2 d

3k√|k|2 ελ(k)i

(e ikxα0(k, λ)− e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

).

ut(k, λ) := |k |1/2αt(k , λ) =1√2ελ(k) · (|k |FT [A](k , t)− iFT [E ](k, t)) .

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Maxwell-Schrodinger system of equations

i∂tϕt(x) =(

(−i∇− (κ ∗ A)(x , t))2 + (| · |−1 ∗ |ϕt |2)(x))ϕt(x),

∇ · A(x , t) = 0,

∂tA(x , t) = −E (x , t),

∂tE (x , t) = (−∆A) (x , t)−(1−∇div∆−1

)(κ ∗ j t) (x),

j t(x) = 2(Im(ϕ∗t∇ϕt)(x)− |ϕt |2(x)(κ ∗ A)(x , t)

)with initial datum

ϕ0,

A(x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2

∫d3k 1√

2|k|ελ(k)

(e ikxα0(k, λ) + e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

),

E (x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2 d

3k√|k|2 ελ(k)i

(e ikxα0(k, λ)− e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

).

ut(k, λ) := |k |1/2αt(k , λ) =1√2ελ(k) · (|k |FT [A](k , t)− iFT [E ](k, t)) .

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Maxwell-Schrodinger system of equations

i∂tϕt(x) =(

(−i∇− (κ ∗ A)(x , t))2 + (| · |−1 ∗ |ϕt |2)(x))ϕt(x),

∇ · A(x , t) = 0,

∂tA(x , t) = −E (x , t),

∂tE (x , t) = (−∆A) (x , t)−(1−∇div∆−1

)(κ ∗ j t) (x),

j t(x) = 2(Im(ϕ∗t∇ϕt)(x)− |ϕt |2(x)(κ ∗ A)(x , t)

)with initial datum

ϕ0,

A(x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2

∫d3k 1√

2|k|ελ(k)

(e ikxα0(k, λ) + e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

),

E (x , 0) = (2π)−3/2∑λ=1,2 d

3k√|k|2 ελ(k)i

(e ikxα0(k, λ)− e−ikxα∗0(k, λ)

).

ut(k, λ) := |k |1/2αt(k , λ) =1√2ελ(k) · (|k |FT [A](k , t)− iFT [E ](k, t)) .

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Main theorem

One-particle reduced density matrices:

γ(1,0)N,t := Tr2,...,N ⊗ TrF |ΨN,t〉〈ΨN,t |,

γ(0,1)N,t (k , λ; k ′, λ′) := N−1|k |1/2|k ′|1/2〈ΨN , a

∗(k ′, λ′)a(k, λ)ΨN〉.

Theorem (L. and Pickl [2016])

Let ϕ0 ∈ L2 with ||ϕ0|| = 1, α0 ∈ h s.t. (A(0),E (0)) ∈ (H3 ⊕ H2)and ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N

0 ⊗W (√Nα0)Ω. Moreover, assume that

supt∈[0,T ]||ϕt ||H3 + ||A(t)||H3 + ||E (t)||H2 <∞ for any T ∈ R+.Then, for any t ∈ R+ there exist two constants C1,C2 such that

TrL2 |γ(1,0)N,t − |ϕt〉〈ϕt || ≤ N−1/2Λ2C1e

Λ4C2(t)(1 + Λ2C1/22 (t)),

Trh|γ(0,1)N,t − |ut〉〈ut || ≤ N−1/2Λ2C1e

Λ4C2(t)(1 + Λ2C1/22 (t)).

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Idea of the proof

Introduce the functional: β(t) = βa(t) + βb(t) + βc (t).

βa measures the dirt in the condensate of the non-relativisticparticles,

βb measures if the photons are close to a coherent state,

βc quantifies the fluctuations in the energy per particle of themany-body system.

Initially: β(0) ≈ 0Show: dtβ(t) ≤ C (β(t) + o(1))Gronwall: β(t) ≤ eCtβ(0) + o(1)

Two major difficulties:

minimal coupling term,

soft photons.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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Remarks and Outline

Remarks:

Theorem holds for a larger class of initial conditions andpotentials.

Method also works for the Nelson model.

UV-cutoff is essential, but can be chosen N-dependent.

Literature:[Knowles, 2009], [Falconi, Velo, 2012], [Ammari, Falconi, 2016].

Outlook:

Mean-field limits for fermions,

Renormalized Nelson model.

Nikolai Leopold, Peter Pickl Derivation of the Maxwell-Schrodinger Equations from the Pauli-Fierz Hamiltonian

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βa

Let ϕt ∈ L2(R3) and ptj : L2(R3N)→ L2(R3N) be given by

f (x1, . . . , xN) 7→ ϕt(xj )

∫d3xj ϕ

∗t (xj )f (x1, . . . , xN).

Define qtj := 1− pt

j and the functional

βa[ΨN,t , ϕt ] := N−1N∑

j=1

〈ΨN,t , qtj ⊗ 1FΨN,t〉 = 〈ΨN,t , q

t1ΨN,t〉.

βa measures the relative number of particles which are not in thestate ϕt :

βa(t) ≤ TrL2(R3)|γ(1,0)N,t − |ϕt〉〈ϕt || ≤ C

√βa(t),

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βa[ΨN,0, ϕ0] = 0.

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βa

Let ϕt ∈ L2(R3) and ptj : L2(R3N)→ L2(R3N) be given by

f (x1, . . . , xN) 7→ ϕt(xj )

∫d3xj ϕ

∗t (xj )f (x1, . . . , xN).

Define qtj := 1− pt

j and the functional

βa[ΨN,t , ϕt ] := N−1N∑

j=1

〈ΨN,t , qtj ⊗ 1FΨN,t〉 = 〈ΨN,t , q

t1ΨN,t〉.

βa measures the relative number of particles which are not in thestate ϕt :

βa(t) ≤ TrL2(R3)|γ(1,0)N,t − |ϕt〉〈ϕt || ≤ C

√βa(t),

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βa[ΨN,0, ϕ0] = 0.

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βa

Let ϕt ∈ L2(R3) and ptj : L2(R3N)→ L2(R3N) be given by

f (x1, . . . , xN) 7→ ϕt(xj )

∫d3xj ϕ

∗t (xj )f (x1, . . . , xN).

Define qtj := 1− pt

j and the functional

βa[ΨN,t , ϕt ] := N−1N∑

j=1

〈ΨN,t , qtj ⊗ 1FΨN,t〉 = 〈ΨN,t , q

t1ΨN,t〉.

βa measures the relative number of particles which are not in thestate ϕt :

βa(t) ≤ TrL2(R3)|γ(1,0)N,t − |ϕt〉〈ϕt || ≤ C

√βa(t),

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βa[ΨN,0, ϕ0] = 0.

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βb

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] :=∑λ=1,2

∫d3k |k |〈ΨN,t ,

(a∗(k , λ)√

N− α∗t (k , λ)

)(a(k , λ)√

N− αt(k, λ)

)ΨN,t〉.

βb measures the fluctuations of the quantized field modes aroundthe classical mode function αt :

Trh|γ(0,1)N,t − |ut〉〈ut || ≤ C ||ut ||h

√βb[ΨN,t , αt ],

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βb[ΨN,0, α0] = 0.

Let UN (t) = W−1(√Nαt)e−iHN tW (

√Nα0), then

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] = N−1〈UN (t)W−1(√Nα0)ΨN ,Hf UN (t)W−1(

√Nα0)ΨN〉.

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βb

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] :=∑λ=1,2

∫d3k |k |〈ΨN,t ,

(a∗(k , λ)√

N− α∗t (k , λ)

)(a(k , λ)√

N− αt(k, λ)

)ΨN,t〉.

βb measures the fluctuations of the quantized field modes aroundthe classical mode function αt :

Trh|γ(0,1)N,t − |ut〉〈ut || ≤ C ||ut ||h

√βb[ΨN,t , αt ],

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βb[ΨN,0, α0] = 0.

Let UN (t) = W−1(√Nαt)e−iHN tW (

√Nα0), then

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] = N−1〈UN (t)W−1(√Nα0)ΨN ,Hf UN (t)W−1(

√Nα0)ΨN〉.

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βb

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] :=∑λ=1,2

∫d3k |k |〈ΨN,t ,

(a∗(k , λ)√

N− α∗t (k , λ)

)(a(k , λ)√

N− αt(k, λ)

)ΨN,t〉.

βb measures the fluctuations of the quantized field modes aroundthe classical mode function αt :

Trh|γ(0,1)N,t − |ut〉〈ut || ≤ C ||ut ||h

√βb[ΨN,t , αt ],

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βb[ΨN,0, α0] = 0.

Let UN (t) = W−1(√Nαt)e−iHN tW (

√Nα0), then

βb[ΨN,t , αt ] = N−1〈UN (t)W−1(√Nα0)ΨN ,Hf UN (t)W−1(

√Nα0)ΨN〉.

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βc

βc [ΨN,t , ϕt , αt ] :=

∣∣∣∣∣∣∣∣(HN

N− EMS [ϕt , αt ]

)ΨN,t

∣∣∣∣∣∣∣∣2H,

with

EMS [ϕt , αt ] := ||(−i∇− Aκ(t))ϕt ||2 + 1/2〈ϕt ,(| · |−1 ∗ |ϕt |2

)ϕt〉

+ 1/2∑λ=1,2

∫d3k |k ||αt(k , λ)|2.

βc restricts our consideration to many-body states, whose energyper particle only fluctuates little around the energy of the effectivesystem:

dtβc (t) = 0,

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βc [ΨN,0, ϕ0, α0] ≤ CΛ4N−1.

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βc

βc [ΨN,t , ϕt , αt ] :=

∣∣∣∣∣∣∣∣(HN

N− EMS [ϕt , αt ]

)ΨN,t

∣∣∣∣∣∣∣∣2H,

with

EMS [ϕt , αt ] := ||(−i∇− Aκ(t))ϕt ||2 + 1/2〈ϕt ,(| · |−1 ∗ |ϕt |2

)ϕt〉

+ 1/2∑λ=1,2

∫d3k |k ||αt(k , λ)|2.

βc restricts our consideration to many-body states, whose energyper particle only fluctuates little around the energy of the effectivesystem:

dtβc (t) = 0,

ΨN,0 = ϕ⊗N0 ⊗W (

√Nα0)Ω⇒ βc [ΨN,0, ϕ0, α0] ≤ CΛ4N−1.

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