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Building and ProvidingWorld Class Customer Care

Building and ProvidingWorld Class Customer Care

By: Bill SumerlinPhil Hodsdon

October 12, 1998

For more information:[email protected]

http://www.mmcad.com(925) 485-4949

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What is world class customer care?What is world class customer care?

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World Class Customer Care AttributesWorld Class Customer Care Attributes

• To determine whether a company is “world class ”, thefollowing attributes usually are considered first... –  Is the business successful (e.g., ROA, ROI, net profit, revenue growth,

market share)?

 –  Is the mission clearly defined for the business and channels?

» Does the mission contain a “customer focus ”?

» Do the mid and long term objectives include a “customer focus ”?

 –  Does the business understand their customers and prospects?

» Customers vary around the world... Does the business understandits customers in each region (market share by region)?

» Is it easy to convert prospects to customers (market acceptance )?» Are the customers loyal (churn rate )?

» Does the business understand the customer’s needs and wants?

» How does the business handle changing customer needs andwants?

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World Class Customer Care AttributesCont’d

World Class Customer Care AttributesCont’d

 –  What is customer satisfaction for the business?

» Are the customer’s satisfied with the availability andaccessibility of the business’s products and services?

» Do customers find the business easy to talk to and use?» Does the business proactively serve the customer or does

the customer need to educate the business each time itcontacts the business?

» Does the customer perceive a real, enhanced value inusing the business’s goto market channels (channels =

field sales, retail stores, telesales centers, telemarketingcenters, E-commerce, mail, broadcast advertising, etc.)?

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How does “best practices”

relate to “world class”?

How does “best practices”

relate to “world class”?

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World Class May Not = Best PracticesWorld Class May Not = Best Practices

• It is possible to provide “world class ” customercare and not be recognized for “best practices ”. –  Toyota (cars and trucks) in the US is recognized both for its

excellent products that have been built with “best practices ”,but also for their poor customer service...

• It is possible to be recognized for “best practices ”,and quietly not perform well as a business. –  Many call centers are managed to “talk time ” and “wrap time ”,

but not to what is actually said on the telephone to thecustomer... The former is easy to measure and to administer,while the latter is not.

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Best Practices FactorsBest Practices Factors

• Efficient use of time and resource –  For example, many Call Centers attempt to meet the following best

practice standards:

» Service Level of 80% in 20 seconds

» Average Speed of Answer : < 20 seconds» Caller request completion : 95+% in 1 call

» Call transfers : < 1 per 50 calls

» Customer satisfaction (arbitrary measures): > 95%

• Cost effective application of resources

 –  Cost is determined by expected and real demand» Some World Class service operations operate with minimal staff

due to great product reliability (e.g., Whirlpool appliances in the US)

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What is a World Class

Customer Care Channel?

What is a World ClassCustomer Care Channel?

• There are many different solutions, within the sameindustry and between different industries...

• Business and customers must drive channel

solutions; technology solutions must not... –  Leading with technology solutions makes it harder to achieve thebest business and customer solutions

• There are not perfect solutions... there are only thosesolutions which can be improved over the course oftime.

• One company’s solution probably will not work inanother company... the people, management andinfrastructure are different.

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What are some of the factors fordetermining world class customer care?

What are some of the factors fordetermining world class customer care?

• Availability  –  Are the products/services available when the customer wants them

(e.g., 24 x 7 for customer service) and through the channels that theywant (e.g., voice, VRU, FAX, web)?

• Personnel 

 –  Are there sufficient personnel to provide the service when thecustomer requests it?

 –  Are these personnel knowledgeable about the customer and theproducts/services that the customer is requesting?

 –  Is the customer request satisfied in one call, without transfer?

 –  Are the personnel warm and courteous to the customers?

• Process  –  Are the processes simple, well thought out, and meet the needs of

the customer, business and the business’s service providers?

 –  Is there sufficient visibility into the day-to-day operations so that theappropriate changes can be made to meet the changing customerand business needs?

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World Class Customer Care Factors Cont’dWorld Class Customer Care Factors Cont’d

• Process Cont’d –  Are there sufficient problem resolution procedures in place to

handle any problems in a timely and customer satisfying fashion?

• Technology  –  Is market information being captured, analyzed and synthesized

through all channels?

 –  Is customer contact information being captured and utilized toimprove all future customer communications?

 –  Are sufficient tools in place to maximize channel personnelproductivity?

 –  Are customer requests being routed to the appropriate party in thefirst attempt?

 –  Is unexpected request volume handled in an appropriate fashion?

 –  Is there an appropriate overflow strategy to handle unexpectedevents?

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Building a World Class ChannelBuilding a World Class Channel

Start

Define what the

channel is supposed

to do

Describe how the

channel will fun ction

Obtain business

approval and

funding

Design the channel

Build & Test the

channel

Operate the channel

Done

Periodically review

& tune channel

operations

Start

Define what the

channel is supposed

to do

Describe how the

channel will fun ction

Obtain business

approval and

funding

Design the channel

Build & Test the

channel

Operate the channel

Done

Periodically review

& tune channel

operations

The h igh level, provensteps to success...

The h igh level, provensteps to success...

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Phase 1 - Defining what you need...Phase 1 - Defining what you need...

Start - Phase 1

Define the Mission

Identify the desired

market segments and

customers

Understand the

market and custome

needs, desires and

expectations

Define the Channel

Requirements

Determine how thechannel in tegrates

into the business

Review & gain

consensus

Obtain app roval to

procede

Phase End

Start - Phase 1

Define the Mission

Identify the desired

market segments and

customers

Understand the

market and customer

needs, desires and

expectations

Define the Channel

Requirements

Determine how thechannel in tegrates

into the business

Review & gain

consensus

Obtain app roval to

procede

Phase End

Different markets and geographies

(Asia, Europe and US) may requiredifferent solutions...

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An integrated view of the

target markets is required...

An integrated view of thetarget markets is required...

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Real Time Marketing EnvironmentReal Time Marketing Environment

© 1996 Channel Concepts, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Call Center(s) Existing and

Potential

Customers

Print, TV and

Radio

Advertising

Product

Marketing

Market Analysis

& Lead

Generation

Fulfillment

Channels

Inbound &Outbound

Calls

Potential Market

Strategic

Marketing

Sales & Marketing

Command Center

Third PartyAgencies

Print & Mail

Houses

List Houses

Dealers,

Distributors

and/or Value

Added Resellers

Internet

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A World Class Channel’s Objectives

should include...

A World Class Channel’s Objectives

should include...

• Maximizing market potential

• Maximizing sales potential

• Providing high quality service to existing clientsand new prospects

• Leveraging your installed base for additionalsales and marketing opportunities

• Lowering your blended “go to market ” (SG & A)expenses

• Maximizing market potential

• Maximizing sales potential

• Providing high quality service to existing clientsand new prospects

• Leveraging your installed base for additional

sales and marketing opportunities• Lowering your blended “go to market ” (SG & A)

expenses

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To be “World Class” in the future,

you will need toview and configureyour channels for“real time marketing”

To be “World Class” in the future,you will need toview and configure

your channels for“real time marketing”

Regis McKenna, “Real Time, Preparing forthe Age of the Never Satisfied Customer”

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Building & Operating“Real Time Marketing ” Channels

Building & Operating“Real Time Marketing ” Channels

• Definition of Real Time Marketing  –  Ability to profitably offer a customer/prospect a valued product or

service that is tailored in real time to meet the immediate desiresand needs of the buyer

• Definition of Real Time Marketing Channel  –  A marketing, sales and/or service communication and distribution

vehicle that allows for direct, real time interaction with thecustomer/prospect to successfully support and service the valuedcustomer relationship

• Real Time Marketing Channel Requirements

 –  Infrastructure that enables the storage and immediate retrieval ofcustomer and prospect contact information, relationship historyand customer profile

 –  Intelligent, artificial agents that transparently support the companymarketing, sales and service agents when communicating withcustomers/agents and when managing customer relationships.

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Real Time Marketing ComponentsReal Time Marketing Components

Vision

Goals &

Objectives

Organization

People

Process

Technology

Channels

Programs

&

Initiatives

Marketing

Sales

Service

Fulfillment

Customer &

Prospect

Profit,

Revenue,

Expen se &

Market Share

Communications

Competition

Measurements

Feedback 

Opportunity

Business

Planning

&

Financial

Modeling

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Not all products and services

should be offered toall customers (and prospects)through all channels...

Not all products and servicesshould be offered to

all customers (and prospects)through all channels...

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Customers

Channels

Produ cts &Services

MostExpensive

LeastExpensive

LeastProfitable

MostProfitable

HighestMargin

LowestMargin

Profit 

Understanding Competitive StrategiesUnderstanding Competitive Strategies

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Some products need to be migrated

from one channel to another based oncost and competitive factors...

Some products need to be migrated

from one channel to another based oncost and competitive factors...

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Understanding Your Channel ActivitiesUnderstanding Your Channel Activities

High

ProductMargin

Low

Low Channel Costs High

Vulnerable to Competition

Unprofitable Business

High Priced,High MarginProducts

TeleMarketing & Direct Mail 

Field Sales 

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In the US, retail banks have begunto learn just how unprofitable bank

branches are..

In the US, retail banks have begunto learn just how unprofitable bank

branches are..

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$0.00

$0.50

$1.00

$1.50

$2.00

$2.50

$3.00

$3.50

$4.00

$4.50

$5.00

Branch Call

Center

Call

Center

IVR

ATM Bill

Payment

PC

Banking

Channels

   A  v  g   C  o  s   t  p  e  r   T  r

  a  n  s  a  c   t   i  o  n

Understanding Your Channel CostsUnderstanding Your Channel Costs

Source: Chann el Concepts/Many

Example from theUS Retail Banking

Industry

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Understanding Changing Channel Usage PatternsUnderstanding Changing Channel Usage Patterns

19941997

2000

Mail

Elect ronic

Call Center

Branch

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

70

   %   o   f   B  a  n   k

   T  r  a  n  s  a  c   t   i  o  n  s

Source: Andersen Consulting

Example from theUS Retail Banking

Industry

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To be world class ,

you cannot approach the solution fromstrictly a cost basis...

To be world class ,

you cannot approach the solution fromstrictly a cost basis...

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Strategic: Positioning for TomorrowStrategic: Positioning for Tomorrow

Cost Driven Sales & Service Driven

Minimize costs:

• Limit the number ofChannel resources

• Limit the talk time

• Handle customers moreefficiently

• Manage call volume toavailable staff

• Reduce live call handlingthrough automated callhandling (e.g., automatedvoice response)

Maximize sales, customer satisfaction

and market penetration:

• Enrich the agent/customerrelationship

• Introduce more and improvedproducts

• Add new customers, while retainingexisting customers

• Improve the sales process

• Make more sales attempts

• Develop new channels (e.g., web)

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And, all world class solutions arebusiness and customer driven...

not technology driven.

And, all world class solutions arebusiness and customer driven...

not technology driven.

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Tactical: Today’s Channel

Business and Operations

Tactical: Today’s Channel

Business and Operations

Business

Objectives &

Plans

Channel

Applications

Channel

Operations

Channel

Information

Systems

Channel

Communications

• Staffing• Recruiting• Training• Scheduling• Operation Monitoring• Operation Reports• Customer Satisfaction

• Policies & Procedu res• Basic Facilities• Test & Release

• Telecom (ACD, PBX,IVRU, CTI, ...)

• Electronic (Email,Internet/ Intranet,FAX)

• E-Commerce• Mail

• User Workstation• Operating Systems• Utilities• Print & File Servers• LAN• WAN

• User App lications• Host Programs• 3rd Party Programs

• Goals & Objectives• Marketing, Sales,

and/ or Service Plan(s)• Operational Plan• Budget• External Relationships• Disaster Recovery

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People, process and technology mustbe appropriately integrated together

to satisfy the business andcustomer needs.

People, process and technology mustbe appropriately integrated together

to satisfy the business andcustomer needs.

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Direct Marketing = ”Real Time Marketing ”Control & Information Flow

Direct Marketing = ”Real Time Marketing ”Control & Information Flow

© 1996 Channel Concepts, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Sales &

Marketing

Command

Center

Call Center(s)

New/ModifiedUp-sell Program

Instructions

Up-sell Program

Results

Fulfillment

Houses

Mail List &

Collateral

Information

Mail Campaign

Results

TV/Radio

Campaign

Results

Telesales

Campaign

Results

Telesale

Service

Bureau

PotentialCustomer Lists

Service Activity

Corporate

Management

Goals &

Objectives

Operational &

Financial Results

Target Market

Collateral

Request &

Shipping

Sales &

Marketing

CommandCenter

Call Center(s)

New/Modified

Up-sell Program

Instructions

Up-sell Program

Results

Fulfillment

Houses

Mail List &

Collateral

Information

Mail Campaign

Results

TV/Radio

Campaign

Results

Telesales

CampaignResults

Telesale

Service

Bureau

Potential

Customer Lists

Service Activity

Corporate

Management

Goals &

Objectives

Operational &

Financial Results

Target Market

Collateral

Request &

Shipping

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The more successful retail banks arestarting to integrate their channels

in an attempt to provide a better, moreuniform face to their customers...

The more successful retail banks arestarting to integrate their channels

in an attempt to provide a better, moreuniform face to their customers...

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Managing Tomorrow’s Financial ServicesInbound Channel Requests

Managing Tomorrow’s Financial ServicesInbound Channel Requests

Call Center

ATM PC HomeBanking

FAXBanking

Internet

Banking

Intelligent

Network 

Routing

US Retail Bank

System of Records

Automated

Self-ServiceProviders

Generalist Agent

Specialist Agen t

Intelligent Info

RequestManagement

(Middleware)

Contact

History

Cust omer

Profiles

Back Office

Automatic

Workflow

Management

Information

ManagementProspect

Profiles

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For large call volumes, complicatedproducts and services, extensive

deployments of “leading edge”technology is required...

For large call volumes, complicatedproducts and services, extensive

deployments of “leading edge”technology is required...

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PBX/ ACD

Server

IVRU

Server

Predic t i ve

D i a l e r

A pp l i ca t i on Prog r am s

Dat abase Server

Pr in t e r

Rout er

Host Mainf ram e Com put er Syst em

FA X

Agent Workstation

Server

CT I

Server

File

Pr in tCo m

Server

A pp l i ca t i on Prog r am s

Cont act Management

Voice Net work

Dat a Net work

State-of-the-ArtCall Center Infrastructure...

State-of-the-ArtCall Center Infrastructure...

IncludesIntranet & InternetCommunications

IncludesIntranet & InternetCommunications

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Customer

Toll Free Netw ork with Automatic

Call Routing

IVRU

Sales

Service

TSR(Sales & Cu stomer

Service)Remote Office

AutomaticDialing

System

CTI Server &

PBX/ACD(w/ Intelligent Caller

Database)

Customer Contact Center

E-Commerce

Web Site

The Ultimate Call Center Basic Call Flow(A Technologist’s Perspective)

The Ultimate Call Center Basic Call Flow(A Technologist’s Perspective)

For national customers &better reporting

For national customers &better reporting

For the best customerservice, shorter talktimes and the up-selland cross-sellprograms

For the best customerservice, shorter talktimes and the up-selland cross-sellprograms

For fast,efficientoutboundcampaigns

& web siteinquiries

For fast,efficientoutboundcampaigns

& web siteinquiries

For standard,basic customerservices andgeneralinformation

For standard,basic customerservices andgeneralinformation

For thoselocal, personalcustomercontacts

For thoselocal, personalcustomercontacts

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Examples of current world-class

channel implementations...

Examples of current world-class

channel implementations...

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Some World ClassChannel Implementations Cont’d ...Some World ClassChannel Implementations Cont’d ...

• Outbound Sales – Collections Agencies, Credit Card, Telecommunications, Life Insurance

(Providian), Small Business Loans (Wells Fargo), Low-endCommunication products & services (GTE), Brokerage, Software

• Inside Sales

 – (Field Sales on the Telephone): IBM (especially in Europe with estimated$1B (US$), where they sell mainframes over the telephone).

• Lost Calls/Switch Board – Again, IBM worldwide is creating Response Centers to handle basic

customer/prospect requests for all product lines

• Business/Supplier – Extranet: Cisco saves $535M (US$) per year in software distribution,

recruitment, customer support and manual printing costs through theirsemi-private intranet that they provide for their suppliers

 – Extranet: GE MRP and service web site, initially saving $385M (US$) ayear

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Vendors Providing Components for

World Class Solutions

Vendors Providing Components for

World Class Solutions• Some examples for Call Centers

 –  Large ACD environments: Aspect, Lucent

» Northern Telecom & Rockwell still major players

» Siemens excellent in small to medium applications, butsignificant problems in large ones

 –  Call Routing: Geotel, Genesys

 –  Data Networking: Cisco, Bay, 3Com

 –  Workstations: IBM, Compaq, Dell, Sun

 –  Servers: IBM/OS 2; Various UNIX platforms; NT is now emerging

 –  Applications» Many different solutions depending on industry

» Almost all are at least semi-custom...

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Call Center Technology StatusCall Center Technology Status• Mature Technologies

 – Servers & Workstations – Work areas and optimum layouts

 – Telephones and headsets

 – Applications that “screen scrape” host based applications

• Maturing Technologies

 – Middleware (Provides common program interfaces to disparate hostand server based applications and helps integrate proprietary systems)

 – Computer Telephony Integration (CTI)

 – Call Center support tools (e.g., agent scheduling)

• Emerging Technologies

 – Browser based applications at the TeleAgent workstation – “Distributed ACD”

 – E-Commerce

» Successful E-Commerce sites (e.g., www.onsale.com)

» Call Center Integrated E-Commerce

 – Voice over IP is moving to replace PBX and ACD’s

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Some sample world class

customer care scenarios...

Some sample world class

customer care scenarios...• Follow the Sun Call Center Coverage

- 3Com, Bank of America, IBM, Tandem Computers (Compaqsubsidiary), Aspect Telecommunications

• Service - Any time, anywhere- Merrill Lynch, CitiBank (“The city never sleeps”), Hertz, Avis &

Budget rent-a-cars, Airlines, Carson-WagonLit, American Express

• E-Commerce with integrated Call Center Support

- Techteam... (Still emerging in many call centers)

• Call Center with Electronic Mail, FAX and Mail Support

- IBM Europe & US, HP, Sun, Aspect Telecommunications, 3Com,Cisco, Bay Networks

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Value of TeleSelling...Value of TeleSelling...

• IBM’s goal 3 years ago was to generate 10% ofall sales through “alternate” channels (i.e.,TeleSales, Catalog, E-Commerce).

• IBM’s current goal is 20%.

• Dell Computer sells 80+% all products directlyover the telephone – Web site represents the remaining sales at $1M+ (US$) per day

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The Emerging Web Channel...The Emerging Web Channel...• Growth in Web servers is 121,000 unit shipments

in 1995 to 1.6 million by the year 2000 accordingto Dataquest.

 – Revenue will grow from $1.8B (US$) to $8.1B (US$)

• GE Consulting estimates that all Industrial Goodweb sites will become a $50B (US$) market by theyear 2000

• Forbes estimates that the US retail Web marketwill only be $10B (US$) by the year 2000

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Value of Alternate Channels...(i.e., TeleSales, TeleMarketing)

Value of Alternate Channels...(i.e., TeleSales, TeleMarketing)

• Expense Reductions

 – IBM reduced SG&A expense 5-8% three (3) years ago

 – Installation of predictive dialing system in a softwaremanufacturer sales operation reduced SG&A by 30%

 – Another software manufacturer is reducing SG&A by25% over a two (2) year period through theintroduction of new TeleSales, TeleMarketing,business partner and E-Commerce channels.

 – Companies with alternate sales channel strategiesare attempting to lower SG&A expenses to less than20%

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Value of Alternate Channels Cont’dValue of Alternate Channels Cont’d

• Revenue Increases – www.amazon.com is the first successful book seller without a

retail store...

» All purchases are through their web site

 – Dell builds products specifically to be sold over the telephone

and internet

» “channel ready ” products that are easy to sell, install, serviceand maintain

 – The introduction of “real time marketing ” processes andtechniques promises to change how businesses sell and

service in the future» “real time marketing ” is heavily dependent on the automation

that is present in the alternate channel implementations

» Initial revenue increases of 10+% are currently being targetedfor companies with “channel ready” product family extensions

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Cisco and Its Alternate ChannelsCisco and Its Alternate Channels

• Cisco –  According to the Wall Street Journal, Cisco sells $1M (US$) each day

over its web site to existing customers

 –  Cisco estimates that it saves $535M (US$) per year through itsextranet

 –  Cisco has an extranet based MRP system which enables suppliers toautomatically forecast and deliver to Cisco customers

• HP –  HP is currently implementing a new, global web store for all its

printers, PC’s, workstations and printer supplies backed up by call

centers in Europe, US and Asia» This new channel estimated to grow to $1B (US$) over the next 12

months

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In Summary...In Summary...

• Key measurements for consideration: –  Cost per sales transaction by channel

» Direct Sales is the highest

» Web Sales are the lowest

 –  Potential SG&A savings using alternate channel strategies

» 10+% savings are typical

 –  Product life cycle considerations

» Migrate maturing products through increasing lower cost channels

• MMC AD Systems can assist your company with: –  Creating your channel strategy

 –  Formulating your business plans with proforma financial plans and

forecasts –  Channel design and implementation

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For more information:For more information:

[email protected]://www.mmcad.com

(925) 485-4949