Condemnatory Vs

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Condemnatory vs. Exaltatory LabelsTo: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick

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1n article 23t%%jj4b5m6bolt.sonic.net7, spam6luckymojo.com $rote:

7 *++++)* 8om nagasivamas77 9nt;ral5;eobar&:7 7 ?ust $;o are t;e black brot;ers@ nd use your o$n $ords not cro$leys.

77 magicians $;om you do not like and upon $;om you $ould like to7 cast aspersions o5 amorality, evilness, and depravity. it seems7 to derive 5rom Cro$leyAs e!pression in reBection o5 t;e7 =lavatskyan =lack =rot;er;ood in contrast to t;e /reat (;ite7 =rot;er;ood o5 Rosicrucians and T;eosop;ists.

1n 0agick (it;out Tears, number ), Cro$ley $rites #selections&:T;e "e5t


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For C;oronQon is as it $ere t;e s;ell or e!crement o5 t;ese t;reepat;s, and t;ere5ore is ;is ;ead raised unto 'aat;, and t;ere5ore ;avet;e =lack =rot;er;ood declared ;im to be t;e c;ild o5 (isdom and>nderstanding, $;o is but t;e bastard o5 t;e Svastika. nd t;is is t;at$;ic; is $ritten in t;e Doly abala;, concerning t;e (;irlpool and

"eviat;an, and t;e /reat Stone.N

77 77 t;ose o5 t;e "e5t ;and pat;, to sPuelc; t;e trut;, and ;ide t;e lig;t,77 7 1 t;ink sel5 ;onesty is a common enoug; t;ing amongst t;ose usually7 7 called le5t ;and pat;ers... nd as 5ar as 1 kno$ most o5 t;e organiQations called7 7 le5t ;and pat; denounce t;e lies t;at t;e rig;t ;and pat;ers promote.77 na;, you donAt understand t;e (ay o5 t;e /reat 0artyrdom Cult. taking7 t;e 'emoniQation "ibel on as a positive identiJer is ;o$ t;e Cult $orks.

7 t;e second $ave or generation o5 t;is cult begins to t;ink t;at it ;as7 al$ays been t;is $ay and de5ends t;e castigation as un5air and poor7 piti5ul misunderstandings. t;is is ;o$ it $as $it; magicians and $it;7 $itc;es and just about all t;e neuvoreligious ot;er t;an, per;aps, t;e7 Le$ gers. it goes $ay ( back, and includes early C;ristians and7 many Satanists. try:77 ;ttp:$$$.satanservice.orgarc;ivet;eorygmcult.t!t77 7 SPuelc;ing trut; is somet;ing 5or t;ose $;o cannot understand t;at7 7 every motive is in itsel5 a selJs; motive.77 $ell said.77 7 Diding t;e lig;t@ (;ic; le5t ;and pat;7 7 organiQationreligionp;ilosop;yindividualgroup are you re5ering to7 7 e!actly@77 almost any one $;ic; is demoniQed $ould Puali5y ;ere, because A;iding7 "ig;tA is $;at t;e scaremongers put out as t;e vil ct o5 =ad /uys.77 77 even i5 t;ey replace it $it; not;ing.77 7 15 t;ere is not;ing t;an $;at do you replace it $it;@ re t;e7 7 DinduAs $;o believe $e are not;ing le5t ;and pat;ers@

77 no, youAre missing t;e point again. 9"e5t


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1 t;ink t;is may not be completely accurate due to t;e idea t;e"e5t


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7 1 t;ink t;at t;is is a valuable ;ypot;esis to consider.77 71 $ould urge everyone to look at =one$itQAs cult danger evaluation 5rame7 75or determining $;en an organiQation is a cult #in ;is Real 0agic&.7 7 is lo$, + is ;ig;.7 7& 1nternal control by poke over t;e group@ >nkno$n

7 7)& 1n5allible $isdom claimed by leader@ +77 5alse, ;e merely de5ends ;is t;eses 5ervently. at times ;e admits7 t;at ;e $as in error and apologies 5or ;is corrosive de5ense met;ods.7 1Ad rate t;is as - at most.

On t;is $e disagree. 1 do not mind a strong de5ense and t;ink o5 t;at asa positive, actually. =ut ;e does more t;an present a strong de5ence.10O ;e tries to muUe someone $;o diKers $it; ;im so t;at opposingvie$points cannot even be ;eard.

Still, eac; person needs to Jll in t;e 5rame on t;eir o$n. ourinterpretation #and everyones interpretation& $ill be diKerent 5rommine.

77 7-& (isdom credited to leaders@ +77 too ;ig;. probably %.

T;e impression ;e gives ;ere is t;at ;e is t;e sole voice o5 aut;ority.T;us, it $ould seem t;at ;e (LTS to be seen as ;aving total $isdom. Soyou may be rig;t.

77 7& 'ogma@ +7 7*& Recruiting@ *77 possibly.77 7V& Front /roups@ #"oosely calling all o5 ;is s 95ronts9& +7

7 t;atAs un5air. ) at most.

Eer;aps. =ut ;aving one o5 ;is sock puppets de5end ;im makes it looklike ot;ers agree $it; ;im. gain, $e diKer.

77 7%& (ealt;@ >nkno$n7 73& Eolitical Eo$er@ 77 reasonable.

77 7W& Se!ual 0anipulation #Dis partner in 5orming ;is cult claimed t;e


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7 7original purpose o5 t;e group $as to get t;em laid&@ +77 consider t;e massage element also. purpose is not control, ;o$ever.7 at most .

Eer;aps. 1 $ould agree t;at t;e purpose is not control. =ut 1 do nott;ink t;at t;e 5rame implied t;at control needed to be t;e purpose.Rat;er, it is t;e intimidationmanipulation 5actor. nd ;ere 1 t;ink,5rom $;at ;as been publis;ed, t;at my assessment is accurate.

77 7+& Censors;ip@ Dis attempt to not allo$ contrary voices on t;is7 7ne$sgroup rates ;im a +77 ;is typical lack o5 response to Pueries unless t;ey support ;is7 ideology supports at least an 3 ;ere.

77 7& 'ropout control@ >nkno$n7 7)& ndorsement o5 8iolence@ #ccording to ;is partner ;e uses t;e7 7t;reat o5 violence&. *77 $;ere did you get t;is in5ormation@7 to $;ic; partner do you re5er@

Lelson (;ite. Eage -W: 1n late W%, 1 ;ad a 5alling out $it; t;isperson GEokeI $it; $;om 1 $as supposed to be an ePual partner #;e pulleda gun on me& so 1 moved out o5 t;e "ake ve. ;ouse GO.T.. DI and intoan apartment across t;e street.

77 7-& Earanoia@ t least *77 e!plain.

Dis re5usal to allo$ opposing points o5 vie$ to be aired $it;out ;isdenouncing t;e messenger sounds to me like ;e is terriJed t;at i5 ;e isnot correct, and t;at ot;er ideas are possible, ;e $ill lose inBuence

importance ego, etc. T;ese are, 10O, irrational 5ears pointing toparanoia on ;is part.

77 7& /rimness #9disapproval concerning jokes about t;e group, its7 7doctrines or leader9&@ 0y guess is t;at t;is is some$;at lo$ $it;in t;e7 7group but ;ig; outside. 377 reasonable.7

7 7*& Surrender o5 (ill@ >nkno$n.7 7Eotential number o5 points: *+


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7 7Eotential number o5 points 5or EokeAs cult t;at can be counted: +7 7Lumber o5 EokeAs cult: 377 all 1 could support $as 3, --X. not a ;ig; cult rating, and based on7 LO personal interaction ot;er t;an t;e internet #e!treme unreliability7 o5 in5ormation&.

77 71 $elcome EokeAs participation ;ere.7 71 do not $elcome ;is attitude t;at ;e is t;e only voice t;at matters and7 7i5 you disagree $it; ;im ;e eit;er attacks you or attempts to make 5un7 7o5 you $;ile L8R responding to $;at you say directly.77 1 also donAt appreciate ;is attitude, but 1 $ould like to note t;at ;e7 isnAt t;e only one t;at does t;is. 1Ad pre5er t;at all o5 t;is personal7 discussion $ere to take place privately, but 0r. Runyon continues to7 make t;e issues personal, so ;e gets to be evaluated publically.

Eoke, 5ollo$ing t;e Cro$leyan edict t;at any publicity is good

publicity, consistently $ants anyt;ing about ;im to be posted so ;e canput up yet anot;er advertisement 5or ;is products or cult. O5 course ;e$ants ;is ego to be made public.

77 71 contend t;at, as ;is partner said, t;e reason t;ey 5ormed ;is OT $as7 7because t;ey $anted to get laid. nd t;is $as during t;e ;eig;t o5 t;e7 7se!ual revolutionY T;ey still couldnAt get laid $it;out setting up a7 75ront. T;ey also c;ose t;e name OT OL" because it sounded like t;e OTO7 7but not enoug; to get t;em in trouble $it; people $;o ;ad been members7 7o5 t;e OTO.77 interesting ;ypot;esis.

T;e =ook described $as publis;ed in W3V by t;e Tec;nology /roup. 1S=L+


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(ell, you could go to Levada 5or an open ritual #=urning 0an&, pay 4++to get in and still attract )+,+++ people.

T;e 5act t;at ;e constantly advertises ;is cult, ;e uses sock puppets toe!claim ;o$ $onder5ul ;e is and tries to intimidate any $;o daredisagree $it; ;im indicates to me t;at ;e is trying to use t;is L/ 5or

recruitment.

77 715 someone reading t;is $ants to be a part o5 ;is personality cult, more7 7po$er to youY =ut 10O you ;ave t;e rig;t to kno$ $;at you are getting7 7into =FOR getting sucked in.77 per;aps $e s;ould create a re5erence Jle 5or ;im@7 1 did somet;ing similar 5or ?os; /eller #$;om 1 no$ re5er to as Sir 15Y&7 at t;e ;eig;t o5 ;is inBuence in alt.magick. it $as at times eKective

7 in preventing t;e discussion once /1L turning around t;e ego o5 t;e7 individual t;e person causing t;e disturbance.77 tyaginator

Frankly, 1 $ould ;onestly $elcome Eokes input. s 1 $rote above, 1 dot;ink ;e ;as a great deal o5 in5ormation. 1t is ;is attempt to muQQlet;e opinone!periencekno$ledge o5 ot;ers 5or t;e purpose o5 peddling;is $ares and getting members 5or ;is cult $;ic; 1 dislike.

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< 15 you invoke by /reater or Supreme in t;e course o5 a $orking,t;en banis; by t;e same 9level9 as you $rap it up.

Some e!ceptions in practice: i5 1 open by (atc;to$ers, 1 Jnd t;atclosing $it; "esser De!agram and Eentagram is suZcient to clean up.

T;ese are suc; Be!ible and po$er5ul tools eac; o5 us ;as to Jgureout t;e best uses 5or t;em. 1 5ound t;at t;e e!amples o5 [) rituals#and $riting a couple o5 my o$n& $ere t;e biggest ;elp but 1 likeprecise ;ig; liturgy ritual, ric; in t;e rolling turn o5 p;rase, so itmatc;es my personal aest;etic #1Ave al$ays enjoyed doing S;akespeareor neoclassical stuK like "ion 1n (inter too, so at least itsconsistent #g&&.

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A Modifed Hexagram Ritual or Enochian Workings.

+. Tools, costume, etc.:

. (;ite robe 5or t;eurgic $orks

=. =lack 5or t;aumaturgic $orks

C. (and 5or general use or s$ord

'. lemental $and, cup, etc. as appropriate

. "amen o5 t;e $ork, or general lamen.

.+ >sing $and or s$ord, circle and seal t;e area o5 $ork. 'eosil 5or t;eurgic $orkings, $idders;ins

5or t;aumaturgic.

. Return to t;e center o5 t;e circle, 5ace east.

'eclare to t;e universe:

90/'EDY9

.) !tend arms to t;e ast, and do several deep breat;s, dra$ing energy 5rom t;e ast and

diKusing it t;roug;out t;e aura.

). 'o sign o5 Darpocrates, t;en ;old $and or s$ord vertical be5ore t;e c;est, ot;er arm do$n at

side.

).) Recite:

91. L. R. 1.9

#Concentrate t;e energy in t;e aura above t;e top o5 t;e ;ead. s t;e letters are spoken, dra$ it

do$n to activate certain c;akras in turn:

1 < Top


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#8isualiQe t;e energy moving up t;e spine and bot; side


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.- /o to t;e (est. 'ra$ t;e ;e!agram o5 Fire.

8ibrate: =1TO0, O1E T E'OC

#Eroject t;roug; t;e ;e!agram into t;e realm o5 Fire. Try to sense t;e in;abitants gat;ering around,

attracted by your arrival. bsorb as muc; energy as possible and dra$ it back into t;e circle.&

. /o to t;e Lort;. 'ra$ t;e ;e!agram o5 art;.

8ibrate: LLT, 0OR '1" DCT/

#Eroject t;roug; t;e ;e!agram into t;e realm o5 art;. Try to see or sense t;e in;abitants as

be5ore. bsorb as muc; energy as possible and dra$ it back into t;e circle.&

.* Return to t;e ast to complete t;e circle.

For invocations o5 t;e 5our Seniors or ings associated $it; a particular planet.

*.+ Recite t;e First noc;ian Call.

*. /o to t;e ast. 0ake ;e!agram o5 ir.

8ibrate \RE, ORO 1=D O[E1

0ake ;e!agram o5 t;e planet.

8ibrate t;e name o5 t;e corresponding Senior 5rom t;e ir Tablet. 1n t;is and t;e 5ollo$ing t;ree

points, project t;roug; t;e ;e!agrams to t;e realm ruled by t;at Senior. ttempt to see ;im

standing be5ore you, or to at least sense ;is presence. 0ake note o5 any beings or images t;at do

appear. (;et;er you see ;im or not, call ;im to come to you in your circle. bsorb as muc; energy

as you can and dra$ it back into t;e circle.

*.) /o to t;e Sout;. 0ake ;e!agram o5 (ater.

8ibrate DCO0, 0ED RS" /1O"


8ibrate t;e name o5 t;e corresponding Senior 5rom t;e (ater Tablet. Eroject into t;e SeniorAs realm

as be5ore.

*.- /o to t;e (est. 0ake ;e!agram o5 Fire.

8ibrate =1TO0, O1E T E'OC



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8ibrate t;e name o5 t;e corresponding Senior 5rom t;e Fire Tablet. Eroject into t;e SeniorAs realm as

be5ore.

*. /o to t;e Lort;. 0ake ;e!agram o5 art;.

8ibrate LLT, 0OR '1" DCT/


8ibrate t;e name o5 t;e corresponding Senior 5rom t;e art; Tablet. Eroject into t;e SeniorAs realm

as be5ore.

*.* Complete t;e circle by returning to t;e ast.

#To invoke a single Senior, recite t;e Call o5 t;e lement a5ter t;e First Call. T;e make ;is elemental

and planetary ;e!agrams in all 5our Puarters instead o5 a single Puarter as above.&

For invoking all t;e Seniors o5 a particular Tablet

V.+ Recite t;e First noc;ian Call, and t;e Call o5 t;e element

being invoked.

V. /o to t;e ast. 0ake ;e!agram o5 t;e element.

8ibrate t;e corresponding Tablet o5 >nion name, and T;ree Lames o5 /od.

0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 8enus.

1nvoke t;e corresponding Senior.

#For t;is and eac; o5 t;e 5ollo$ing points, project t;roug; t;e ;e!agram o5 t;e planet into t;e

corresponding planetary realm. /at;er as muc; energy as you can and dra$ it back into t;e circle

by an act o5 $ill. T;e energy s;ould appear to $ell up out o5 t;e center o5 t;e ;e!agram,

illuminating t;e circle $it; lig;t o5 t;e planetAs color.&

V.) /o to t;e Sout;nion name, and T;ree Lames o5 /od.

0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 0ercury.

8ibrate t;e name o5 t;e corresponding Senior.

V.- /o to t;e Lort;nion name, and T;ree Lames o5 /od.


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0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 ?upiter.


V. Complete t;e Jrst triangle by returning ast.

V.* /o to t;e (est. 0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 t;e element.


0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 0ars.


V.V /o to t;e Lort;nion name, and T;ree Lames o5 /od.

0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 "unaart;.


V.% /o to t;e Sout;nion name, and T;ree Lames o5 /od.

0ake t;e ;e!agram o5 Saturn.


V.3 Complete t;e second triangle by returning to t;e (est.

V.W Return ast. Circumambulate, going directly 5rom eac; point to t;e ne!t to 5orm a ;e!agon,

gat;ering up t;e po$ers o5 t;e planets as eac; ;e!agram is passed. /o deosil 5or t;eurgic

$orkings, $idders;ins 5or t;aumaturgic $orkings.

V.+ >pon reac;ing t;e ast again, move to t;e center o5 t;e circle, spinning about t;e bodyAsvertical a!is as you go. Spin in t;e same direction as t;e circumambulation.

#s you spin, t;e planetary energies s;ould be seen as 5orming a multicolored vorte! about you.

(;en you reac; t;e center, release t;e vorte! and J! it in place t;ere.&

V. 0ove slig;tly a$ay 5rom t;e center and turn to 5ace it.

'ra$ t;e ;e!agram o5 t;e element in t;e middle o5 t;e vorte!.


'ra$ t;e ;e!agram o5 Sol in t;e middle o5 t;e vorte!.


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8ibrate t;e Lame o5 t;e corresponding 9lemental ing9.

#s t;e name o5 t;e ing is vibrated, t;e ;e!agram in t;e center o5 t;e circle s;ould dra$ in t;e

gat;ered energy and catalyQe it so t;at it all trans5orms into a brilliant $;ite radiance.&

%. Return to t;e center o5 t;e circle.

%.) For t;eurgic $orks, recite:

91sis, Lature, innocent blindness9

9Dorus, (arrior, t;e struggling soul9

9Set, postate, seeking t;e spirit9 9T;ot;, t;e (ise One, encompassing allY9

For t;aumaturgic $orks, recite:

9T;ot;, star


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processes t;at are at t;e root o5 all ;uman be;avior and ;ave pervaded every area o5 ;uman

activity at least since t;e beginning o5 our recorded ;istory.

T;e symbolism o5 1LR1 is dealt $it; brieBy 5urt;er on in t;ese comments. n e!panded treatment

o5 t;e 5ormula is presented in my paper Set Dorus, 5or t;ose $;o $is; to consult it.

0y second objective in revising t;e De!agram ritual $as to produce a version t;at $as suitable 5or

use $it; t;e noc;ian Calls. T;is current version uses only noc;ian divine names, and t;e

symbolism o5 t;e circle and directions ;as been modiJed to con5orm more closely to t;at given in

'eeAs records o5 t;e noc;ian magickal system. Complete con5ormity is not possible, since 'eeAs

interpretations are sometimes contradictory. =ut 1 ;ave selected out o5 ;is interpretations t;ose

t;at seem most consistent.

+. For daily use, t;e tools and accoutrements s;ould be kept simple. One $and, robe, and lamen

are suZcient. Robe and lamen may also be dispensed $it; under most circumstances. 'eeAs lamen

is appropriate to t;is $ork, since it is derived 5rom t;e names o5 angels o5 t;e planets.

For t;is $ork, 9t;eurgic9 is meant to include any $ork 5or sel5


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T;e c;akras activated as eac; letter is spoken are t;e correspondences in t;e body to t;e

principles represented by t;e letters. T;ey also roug;ly correspond to t;e parts o5 t;e Tree o5 "i5e

$it; $;ic; eac; o5 t;e letters is connected. T;e activation o5 t;e c;akras in t;e order s;o$n s;ould

also remind t;e magician o5 t;e cycle o5 in


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First 919 < t;e period o5 normal ;uman li5e


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.+ < V. Concerning t;e elements and t;e 5our directions:

'ee perceived t;e magickal circle as a representation in t$o dimensions o5 t;e t;ree


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contains planets t;at are correspondences #$it;in a purely astrological vie$point& o5 t;e alc;emical

principles o5 sulp;ur < mercury < salt.

.+ < V. 0iscellaneous remarks

Section : T;e intent o5 t;is section is to invoke t;e most macrocosmic #and t;ere5ore most

generaliQed& 5orm o5 t;e po$ers. T;e Tablet o5 >nion names invoke t;e spirit o5 t;e elements. ac;

o5 t;e T;ree Lames o5 /od 5or t;e elements corresponds to an astrological sign, and all 5our sets

toget;er make up t;e [odiac.

T;ere are actually t$o Qodiacal correspondences 5or eac; name, $;ic; are used in diKerent

circumstances. T;e reasons 5or t;is are too complicated to go into ;ere. For t;is ritual, t;e 5ollo$ing

table s;o$s t;e correspondences to be used.

Mutable Fixed Cardinal

Air ORO IBAH AOZPI

Water MPH ARSL GAIOL

Earth MOR DIAL HCTGA

Fire OIP TEAA PDOCE

(;en projecting into t;e elemental realms, it $ould be Jtting to visualiQe symbols appropriate to

t;e Qodiacal attributes as an added attractant 5or t;e in;abitants. T;e purpose be;ind t;e attempt

to see or sense t;ese in;abitants is to create mental links bet$een t;em and t;e magician, and to

strengt;en any links previously establis;ed. 1t is by means o5 t;ese links t;at t;e kno$ledge

embodied in t;e Tablets can be acPuired.

1t is Puite common 5or an invocation o5 t;e Lames o5 /od to attract a myriad o5 small elementals.

=ut t;ey do not ;ave muc; energy to spare, and are useless as sources o5 in5ormation. T;eir

presence is a sign o5 success in per5orming t;e ritual, but it is t;e more ;ig;ly developed 9angelic9

beings t;at s;ould be soug;t during t;e projections.

(;en using t;e ritual 5or banis;ing, t;e energy broug;t into t;e circle s;ould be visualiQed as

Bus;ing any undesirable inBuences out o5 t;e circle, and t;en leaving t;e circle itsel5 by t;e

;e!agram t;roug; $;ic; it came.

Section *: For purposes o5 t;is section, t;e Solar ings o5 t;e Tablets are treated as i5 t;ey $ere

Seniors o5 Sol.

%.- T;e $ords mean 9/od, your $ill be Gor 9is9I done.9 T;ey serve as a 5ormal indication o5 t;e end

o5 t;e ceremony.

Footnotes

Several diagrams dra$n by 'ee in t;e course o5 developing t;e noc;ian system s;o$ t;is

;oroscopic interpretation. =ut it is not kno$n to me $;et;er t;e ngels $;o provided t;e system

agreed $it; ;im. 1t s;ould be noted t;at t;e current arrangement does not 5ollo$ any o5 t;e t;ree

or 5our diKerent arrangements recorded by 'ee.

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