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Confusion and Clarification Time

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onfusion and Clarification Time

osted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:39 am

y bipolarmorganrst and foremost, let me say this. Do not attack me or the moderators personally for anything we do to help keep this

rum going ... OR YOU WILL BE BANNED. I'm getting tired of people making stories about access to things or

ensorship or whatever, especially when it comes to threatening the staff or any other member. This is a fairly public, in

e broadest sense of the term, forum of GOSSIP. I realize this means rough edges and personalities that clash, but

e've agreed to attempt to avoid childish behaviors here and the moderators will always have to "moderate" this... so

on't take it so personally.

econd, if you want to put some blame on things, that's understandable, but please direct it all at me, prior to

ssuming the moderators are at fault. For all you know, they were simply "following orders" ... as technically I am the

dministrator of the place you all call home. However, I attempt to allow the content to flow as freely as possible, withine rules that you all agreed to when you registered, regardless if you understand them fully or not. I'm also willing to

ve clarification and add things/adjust things in the rules to make things better for all involved and help you understand

em.

hird, if you have a problem with a moderator, please come to me first. I am as unbiased as anyone can be on this

rum, simply because I don't participate in the regular chatter, just the technical stuff. So, I'm pretty partial, albeit

utally honest. If you can't accept that, then feel free to discuss better options for said situations. I can keep your

omplaint anonymous and will always attempt to find a compromise at the least.

ourth, Feel free to comment/criticize/complain/whatever ...

HERE ... and THIS ONE THREAD ONLY, NO HOLDS BARRED ( minus porn

nd stuff, but I mean, let's talk openly!! )

MOSTLY* ..... I will be the only one moderating this thread... so, there are lines

ou could cross and I suggest you don't. But if you don't get the idea, we need

our feedback - as members, because you are the ones who have to live with

he results.

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e: Confusion and Clarification Time

osted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:23 pm

y starfiredo have some things I would like to say but just inquiring, is it okay to bring up what happened with GIS? Would that

ount as a personal attack? Because it wouldn't be intended that way, I just think a lot of people had problems with her

yle of modding (not personality so hopefully it wouldn't be considered as a personal attack) and are we allowed to

ing up ANYTHING or ask ANYTHING about the recent drama? Sorry, I just really want to keep my account so I

anted to inquire first, thank you so much

lus I do have a lot of things to say about what other people are thinking and what the majority of people are saying if

ou are interested, these obviously aren't my views but I do think its important that you know about some common

iticisms of the site? Once again I'm terrified of being rude or anything and breaking the rules haha)



y effietrinkets

nfortunately most of the users with valuable things to say on this topic have already been banned; a bit late for open

scussion now.

e: Confusion and Clarification Timeosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:34 pm

y natjcat

o can we get some clarification as to why certain users who weren't even participating in the discussion at hand were

anned? They've clarified elsewhere that they were given no warnings and absolutely were not involved in any of the

ama, and those who were can back them up. Yet despite being valued members with hundreds of contributions

etween them, they were permanently banned.

ny effort to ascertain what exactly happened there has been met with silence and censorship, so I'm asking now for

is to be resolved.



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y sailor-moon

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ce composure



y wtfamidoinghere

would like to know why this -> http://*the site that shall not be named, ty.prophpbb.com/ is considered spam?

ARNING: SPAM DETECTED

get why you want it deleted, it's competition, but last time i checked there was no rule against it and calling it spam just

eems very unjustified. It would be spam if it was posted a lot, but it was only reposted, because it kept getting deleted.

espite there not being a rule against it.

nd like everybody else i would like an explanation for all the bans. As of right now the only ban that has been

xplained was jhamba's (lots of people are saying she was just criticizing GIS's mod behaviour, but at least the strong

nguage is an explanation.), but what about human holiday or mermaid blood? Oqua? And i know there have been

ts of others. And all of them say they have not even been warned.

didn't even care much about the original drama with GIS, but the censoring of people politely asking for an explanation

as really put me off.

long time posters (who aren't known for being rude or anything) suddenly disappear, it's understandable that people

ant answers, isn't it?



y fruitprocessor


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re these questions going to be answered here or via PM or at all? Interested because I would like to hear what has to

e said as well. I'm sure everyone else would appreciate that.


y bipolarmorgan

ure, I'll take questions about that. Because one of your moderators, and I say your moderators - because she was not

oderating my rules - she was moderating the rules that you all agreed to when you registered. Keep that in mind,

owever, if you feel you have something particularly aggressive to say and don't want to hold back, may I suggest a

M? Sometimes, people don't get along with others, you all should know this, otherwise - only my personal opinion -

ou may be too young to be here, LOL ....

k, so yes, I've personally dealt with complains about GIS - she has since left, because of her treatment here, she no

nger felt like part of the GG family - again, this being my opinion from a third party perspective. You all know what I'veeen more busy with, but yet, you also deserve to get some closure on recent events you've felt were potentially

nwarranted. This is what I've been told. I've also been told most of you think that moderators can read PMs ... no, they

annot. Nor have they ever been able to, to my knowledge.

lot of this reminds me, and some of you may not have been here, but it reminds me of the turning of 2015 into 2016,

few months back when we had some other "disgruntled" users ... and regardless of how it was dealt with or how this

being dealt with, you all seem to question with little to no actual facts behind what you are discussing, honestly. No

fense intended...

nd I will clarify again, for the sake of this topic (Re: Confusion and Clarification Time) - I'm going to spend my efforts to

elp alleviate some of the stress I'm feeling here in regards to what I feel are several different situations and mistaken

formation being passed along by disgruntled members. If you broke the rules, we warned you before you got banned.

that's not the case, then you must be a spammer and no one else cares what you want. On the off chance, since we

e all humans here, that we made a mistake, please feel free to contact me directly if need be to see some sort of

solution.

owever, I will warn you, I am also a stickler for the rules, as they were laid out by members of this forum, who are

ghly respected. I also have ensured that adjustments can be made for circumstances that I'm sure some of you will

onsider this to be.

o, please, get it all off your chest, I don't care how off topic, flaming or trolling it is, I will attempt to listen and look at

is from your Point of View.

Morgan

echnical Admin and GG Psychiatrist

arfire wrote:I do have some things I would like to say but just inquiring, is it okay to bring up what happened with GIS?

ould that count as a personal attack? Because it wouldn't be intended that way, I just think a lot of people had


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oblems with her style of modding (not personality so hopefully it wouldn't be considered as a personal attack) and are

e allowed to bring up ANYTHING or ask ANYTHING about the recent drama? Sorry, I just really want to keep my

ccount so I wanted to inquire first, thank you so much

lus I do have a lot of things to say about what other people are thinking and what the majority of people are saying ifou are interested, these obviously aren't my views but I do think its important that you know about some common

iticisms of the site? Once again I'm terrified of being rude or anything and breaking the rules haha)



y bipolarmorgan

ease specify who you are referring to and I can give you much clearer answers... but I am confident in my moderators

nd will not punish them for claims of a few users, who clearly have a vendetta for whatever reason. I've seen members

et upset because they got in trouble and I've had them apologize and come back... I've seen members who refuse to

ten to repeated attempts to get them to follow the rules they agreed to follow when they became a member. So,

xactly, WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

atjcat wrote:So can we get some clarification as to why certain users who weren't even participating in the discussion

hand were banned? They've clarified elsewhere that they were given no warnings and absolutely were not involved

any of the drama, and those who were can back them up. Yet despite being valued members with hundreds of

ontributions between them, they were permanently banned.

ny effort to ascertain what exactly happened there has been met with silence and censorship, so I'm asking now for

is to be resolved.



y bipolarmorgan

he two names I've received thus far: The requested user does not exist.

nonymousse and Human Holiday .... (and if you are the owner of these accounts, please contact me directly via

mail)...

can look through backups and see if I can find what you all proclaim, but what the real problem may be is that they

dn't listen to repeated warnings and were banned, then became disgruntled. We've also recently had an issue with

onsistent spam and trolls disrupting the board, the moderators respond to reports, so someone reported them and I'm

ore than willing to give any banned users a second chance, if approached correctly. However, I cannot stand for the

onstant questioning of a moderator, when you don't even know what all that position entails or how someone got there

begin with, nor should I have to answer that question. Typically there have been a jumble of methods used and there

never 100% happy campers in the end, but without appropriate feedback there is little to nothing I can do for you all.aybe you didn't realize the moderators had a "boss" ... but yes, and if other moderators aren't involved, why not ask


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em for help? Moderators can moderate moderators for all it matters to me. I'm honestly just trying to achieve the best

ompromise that I can to alleviate the major stress this clearly has been causing some of you.



y bipolarmorgan

OL, like mine directly? She is ... or WAS now, a moderator of the site and a member of several threads, and I believe

ell liked among her peers. Now you all have literally threatened her job, I'm told, over some silly gossip. How

diculous is that, and you all have the gall to talk about how things are run here... it's laughable, from my POV.

nyone involved in that, technically can be charged with a crime, and clearly were not following the general guidelines

actual rules we have here. Just saying... therefore, maybe they crossed the line and got banned and now they get

ack by hustling all you into wasting your time with conspiracy theories.... but I guess maybe your gossip has nothing to

o with any of this.... I don't really know, I don't follow these threads and try to look through the least amount I can in aay, just doing technical work. Let alone what we've asked several loyal members to do for us as moderators.

hy so hard on the ones who have to enforce the rules, so the next time you want to report someone, you can?!?!

hat is wrong with you all. Over what exactly. Please someone tell me what really started all this?!

Mo

uitietutie wrote:What is your relationship to Gabz_is_shite?

s quite clear there's a long list of people who have had issues with her or witnessed her strange behaviour. I just

ruggle to understand why you've let it get to the point where popular posters (the people who MAKE certain threads

uccessful) have been banned causing droves of other posters to leave, yet you and Nesoi have still stood by her.

she a cousin of somebody? Do you and Nesoi truly believe that she is an insider? Or is this a 'once you're in the mod

ub, you're staying in the mod club' type situation?

ust help me out and explain WHY she was chosen as a mod in the first place and HOW you let her ban so many

oody people.



y bipolarmorgan

aybe they asked for their account to be deleted? I don't know, but you can't expect me to know everything. I can find

ut, if you give me enough information and maybe even bring back those GHOST posts.... would you like that?

tfamidoinghere wrote:I would like to know why this -> http://*the site that shall not be named, ty.prophpbb.com/ is

onsidered spam? WARNING: SPAM DETECTED


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get why you want it deleted, it's competition, but last time i checked there was no rule against it and calling it spam just

eems very unjustified. It would be spam if it was posted a lot, but it was only reposted, because it kept getting deleted.

espite there not being a rule against it.

nd like everybody else i would like an explanation for all the bans. As of right now the only ban that has been

xplained was jhamba's (lots of people are saying she was just criticizing GIS's mod behaviour, but at least the strong

nguage is an explanation.), but what about human holiday or mermaid blood? Oqua? And i know there have been

ts of others. And all of them say they have not even been warned.

didn't even care much about the original drama with GIS, but the censoring of people politely asking for an explanation

as really put me off.

long time posters (who aren't known for being rude or anything) suddenly disappear, it's understandable that people

ant answers, isn't it?



y jaej

her users have listed some of the users who were banned. i have personally messaged you with a few (which you

nored, and claimed i was giving you no names) and i don't doubt that others have too. the problem is that this last of a

w users were banned and were NOT GIVEN A REASON, not to mention the posts that were deleted for no given

ason. how are we meant to follow the rules and not end up banned when no one is going to tell us what people are

eing banned for? and stop this crap about a vendetta. there was no vendetta, simply a mod who was called out for not

oing the best job. christ, the rules themselves prohibit "excessive flaming". i've never seen anything remotelyxcessive from the users banned (again, actually look at users posted here or sent to you and stop acting like people

e delusional)

ese aren't just claims of a few against your darling mods. look at the dan and phil thread, just about everyone has left.

ow can you claim to address people's issues when your solution is always either to just insult the person, wail on

bout unexplained rules, remind everyone that mod = better than them, claim you don't know etc... ie do anything but

arify the issue?

osters were not given reasons for the ban, and nobody can see where the apparent spamming was.

reatened her job? the job she lied about? her claims have already been proven false about that insider knowledge

he had. if there was any job, it was threatened by her being unprofessional enough to post secrets online, not byosters acknowdging it.



y bipolarmorgan

hat other users, you haven't given me a single name. Do you think I don't have the data to back up what I'm saying or

omething?! You've lost your mind. The reason is shown when they attempt to login ... did you know that? what does it

ay? and why wasn't I simply notified, as I should be of an issue?!


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can ask a lot of questions as well, but I'm trying to help and you are attacking me and declaring that everything I'm

aying is false?! HA.

can't just look at the dan and phil thread and know that there is any difference, I don't think you all understand what I

o here.

ou in particular are being very stubborn and I don't appreciate that you are attempting to say there are no reasons for

nything, when I've clearly explained over and over again there is. And on top of that, once I have a list of names and

eas where I should be looking for posts, I can begin to restore the chaos and find real answers.... until then, please

ind you I'm attempting to help, not hinder or hide.... I could care less if 200 of you left, the board would load faster...

o please, take a step back and realize if you bite the hand that feeds, it never feeds you again.

re you done with your personal issues with me? Cuz you are getting to a level where I feel like warning you, LOL

ej wrote:other users have listed some of the users who were banned. i have personally messaged you with a few

which you ignored, and claimed i was giving you no names) and i don't doubt that others have too. the problem is that

is last of a few users were banned and were NOT GIVEN A REASON, not to mention the posts that were deleted for

o given reason. how are we meant to follow the rules and not end up banned when no one is going to tell us what

eople are being banned for? and stop this crap about a vendetta. there was no vendetta, simply a mod who was

alled out for not doing the best job. christ, the rules themselves prohibit "excessive flaming". i've never seen anything

motely excessive from the users banned (again, actually look at users posted here or sent to you and stop acting like

eople are delusional)

ese aren't just claims of a few against your darling mods. look at the dan and phil thread, just about everyone has left.

ow can you claim to address people's issues when your solution is always either to just insult the person, wail on

bout unexplained rules, remind everyone that mod = better than them, claim you don't know etc... ie do anything but

arify the issue?

osters were not given reasons for the ban, and nobody can see where the apparent spamming was.



y jaej

polarmorgan wrote:What other users, you haven't given me a single name. Do you think I don't have the data to back

p what I'm saying or something?! You've lost your mind. The reason is shown when they attempt to login ... did you

now that? what does it say? and why wasn't I simply notified, as I should be of an issue?!

can ask a lot of questions as well, but I'm trying to help and you are attacking me and declaring that everything I'm

aying is false?! HA.

can't just look at the dan and phil thread and know that there is any difference, I don't think you all understand what I

o here.

ou in particular are being very stubborn and I don't appreciate that you are attempting to say there are no reasons for

nything, when I've clearly explained over and over again there is. And on top of that, once I have a list of names and

eas where I should be looking for posts, I can begin to restore the chaos and find real answers.... until then, please


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ind you I'm attempting to help, not hinder or hide.... I could care less if 200 of you left, the board would load faster...

o please, take a step back and realize if you bite the hand that feeds, it never feeds you again.

re you done with your personal issues with me?

is IS you being notified. posters couldn't notify you because, guess what, they were banned! i've sent you the list of

sernames at least twice. here's the exact phrase from my second last message to you

e user oqua was banned and doesn't know why. so was mermaid blood and Anonymousse seems to have been

eactivated.

that in your data somewhere?

ou're mad that i'm saying there's no reason, but you won't give a real reason. users are either not notified when the get

, or are jut don't understand what post caused the ban. people are asking what the reasons are, not to be repeatedly

ld that there are reasons and someone was probably mean or spammed somewhere.

h, and my personal issues? meaning, you repeatedly claiming that i'm obviously facing a language barrier after me

aying my first language is english? and now that i'm insane? not really, no.

nd now you're just going to toss out warnings because you feel like it? really helping your case, buddy. what have i

one? asked for clarification, in the thread for it? been offended at being treated like there's something wrong with me

st because YOU can't provide a decent answer?



y natjcat

polarmorgan wrote:Please specify who you are referring to and I can give you much clearer answers... but I am

onfident in my moderators and will not punish them for claims of a few users, who clearly have a vendetta for

hatever reason. I've seen members get upset because they got in trouble and I've had them apologize and come

ack... I've seen members who refuse to listen to repeated attempts to get them to follow the rules they agreed to follow

hen they became a member. So, exactly, WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

ell the user IzzySmi is one I absolutely know without a doubt had entirely nothing to do with anything that happened

s I was in the thread the whole time (it's Easter break, I have nothing better to do... essays don't count). This is a

atement from her on the matter;

was IzzySmi on GG and one of the first to be permanently banned 3 days ago, some of you may have noticed I had

bsolutely had nothing to do with the “debate” about whether Gabby cared about the lives of anyone. I received no

arnings before my permanent ban and in fact I have never received a warning on that forum EVER. I don’t believe

ny of my posts were ever moderated/edited either as there was simply no need. So why the lifetime ban. AND, why

e two IP address bans? That’s right, both of my IP addresses from two different homes have been banned so I amnable to even access the site never mind read it or make another account.


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know I broke no rules, I know people didn’t report me for flaming/trolling either as my last posts on the forum were

bout Gabby lying about sleeping naked (sooo offensive yo), edited eyes in selfies and buying Hobnobatron an Easter

gg and before that I hadn’t been online for over a week due to being busy."

l of your statements regarding members listening or not listening to rules are not at all relevant in this case as again,

reiterate, Izzy wasn't even part of the conversation, she had nothing whatsoever to do with it and I don't think she

as even online at the time. The implication that we have some irrational, unwarranted 'vendetta' against your mods is

ankly ludicrous. All we saw, those of us who weren't directly involved, was valued members being banned for little to

o reason and repeated attempts to obtain clarification were ignored. This is where these frustrations have come from.

e're not mad for no reason, we're confused and concerned.


osted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:35 pmy bipolarmorgan

gain, even banned users can contact me via email. I'm done discussing this ludicrous topic for the night ladies...

nonymousse was the only one who existed in the database, that I'm aware of, so screenshots are great proof of your

oncerns" .... FYI



y katieau76

roof that izzysmi exists:

o ahead, ban me...


y bipolarmorgan

hy would I ban yoU?

esoi Banned user for reason “Flame trolling and reposting a post deleted by a mod that had been threatening (to

veal a mod's ip and to find them). Disrespecting a mod continually after being warned.”

Izzysmi

atieau76 wrote:Proof that izzysmi exists:


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