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Chimney height & horizontal clearance specifications: this article describes the height requirements forchimneys, including rooftop clearances and overall chimney height necessary for proper chimney draft andfunction and for fire safety. We describe what can go wrong with chimneys that are not built to proper heightor with proper clearances from other building features, including improper or unsafe heating appliance orfireplace or woodstove operation, odors, soot, draft issues, etc. These articles on chimneys and chimneysafety provide detailed suggestions describing how to perform a thorough visual inspection of chimneys aswell as chimney construction & repair methods.

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CHIMNEY CLEARANCE & CONDITION SAFETY. Additional chimney clearance and safety information is at CREOSOTE FIRE HAZARDSFire Clearances for Masonry Chimneys and Fire Clearances for Metal Chimneys and Fire Clearances, Single-Wall Metal Flues and if you are using a conventional fireplace, also see FIREPLACES & HEARTHS

A variation on a "too short" metal or masonry chimney is a chimney that may look tall-enough to some folksbut which lacks adequate clearance from a nearby roof slope, as we illustrate and explain in the text below.

Chimney to Roof Clearance: from the ground you can guess and

from on-roof access you can measure to determine if a chimney issimply too short for fire safety and code compliance.

The length of a horizontal line drawn from the top of the opening of

the chimney flue to the point at which that line touches the roof

surface should be ten feet or more (the blue line in our photo).

In our photo, our measuring tape is pulled to about 4 1/2 Ft.

And the height of the chimney above the roof surface should be at leastthree feet - the green line in our photo. (This is a bit of an oddmeasurement and chimney clearance case because the chimney sideis actually about 8" away from the roof edge. But the chimney-to-roofclearance rules still apply.)

This measuring tape location shown in this photo is slightly incorrect (Ididn't want to lose my tape down the flue while taking the picture).

Measure from the edge of the chimney flue closest to the roof, horizontally, until you touch the roof surface tocheck the ten-foot clearance rule distance. That's the light blue line in our photo.

Check the chimney top for damaged masonry (or rusted metal), a missing cap, damaged, cracked, ormissing top seal or crown on the top of a masonry flue, and here, an important discovery (at least in somejurisdictions) is whether or not the chimney is single wythe or thicker masonry and whether or not the chimneyhas (or perhaps needs) a chimney liner.

Chimneys Too Short - What is "too short" and What ProblemsOccur?

A chimney that is too short is unlikely to vent properly and it may also be a serious fire hazard to the building,risking setting the roof on fire. The photo at above left is a too-short masonry chimney (with no cap and otherworries). A horizontal line (blue in our photo) drawn from the chimney top to where it would touch the roofsurface was just about one foot instead of the required ten feet OR two feet above the ridge.

A "Hidden" "too-short" Chimney Specification: Distance Above the Flue Collar -can lead to inadequate draft

NFPA-211 1-8.2 specifies that

Natural draft chimneys and vents shall not terminate at an elevation less than 5 ft (1.53m)above the flue collar or the highest connected draft hood outlet.

Inspecting from outdoors you may not be sure if a chimney violates this rule or not - you'll also need to lookinside at the heating equipment and at the building structure, ceiling height distances etc. to make an actualmeasurement.

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Too-Short Heating Flue Can Mean Sooty Oil Burners and Puffbacks or Dangerous CO PoisoningHazards

This height requirement is to assure that the chimney willdevelop adequate draft. A "too short" chimney in this casewon't have a tall-enough column of rising hot gases insideto develop a safe, adequate draft. Our photograph belowshows a "too short" chimney through a flat roof on a one-story home.

This too-short chimney is more than a fire hazard. It canmean that heating equipment venting into the chimney won'twork properly, is unsafe, or is "forced" to work by settingsthat waste your heating money.

The vertical distance from the top of this chimney to the topof the oil fired heating boiler it serves is less than six feet.

Our vertical red line shows that we measured about 24" of chimney above the flat roof. This seems to meetthe "two foot chimney rule" but it fails the three-foot rule and also the whole chimney height was just too shortto produce adequate draft.

The oil fired boiler has blown soot into the utility room and garage throughout its' life, a constant source ofannoyance that probably stems from inadequate total draft even when the oil burner, boiler, and chimney flueare up to full operating temperature.

Because a short chimney can mean bad draft and sooty oil burner operation, also see OIL BURNERS and OIL

BURNER NOISE SMOKE ODORS.

The draft regulator on this installation was removed by an earlier service tech in an effort to improve draft inthe flue. But even that step was not enough, and of course now the oil burner can never be properly tuned.

In response to owner pleas that no one had been able to fixthis trouble, an oil company's service technician whoworked on this flue in 2010 "solved" the long standing oilburner soot problem by setting the draft up as high as hecould at the oil burner. That slowed but did not stop thesooting problem, and for sure it increased the heating costfor this building.

Stack temperature was 600 degF (photo at left) - minusroom temperature, making it about 530 - a bit high.

We could have addressed this short chimney with a draftinducer fan, but a taller flue would be smart anyway, to getthe chimney top higher than the roof surface. We discuss

examples of extending chimney height to improve draft, performance, and fire safety separately at ChimneyHeight Extensions. We discuss draft inducer or "draft boosting" fans for heating systems (and maybe forsome fireplaces) in detail at Draft Inducer Fans.

Just how short is "too short" - we discuss chimney height and roof clearance requirements beginning below.

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Hazards from Too-Short Chimneys

Particularly with gas fired appliances, the lack of adequate draft for any reason, including a chimney flue thatis too short, can result in improper combustion and the production of dangerous, potentially fatal carbonmonoxide gases. And the same inadequate draft that affects combustion in the heater can increase the riskthat the gas backdrafts out into the buildings.

NFPA 211 1.7.1 specifies:

... A chimney or vent shall be designed and constructed to develop a flow sufficient tocompletely remove all flue or vent gases to the outside atmosphere. The venting system shall

satisfy the draft requirements of the connected appliance(s) in accordance with the equipment

manufacturer's instructions or the chapter on Chimney, Gas Vent, and Fireplace Systems of

the Equipment Volume of the ASHRAE Handbook.

Draft-Fixes for "Too Short" Chimneys

An obvious fix for a chimney that is too short to meet the fire safety clearances mentioned earlier is that mustbe extended above the roof for fire safety.

But in some installations, such as a heating appliance installed in a one story low ceiling structure, thechimney may meet the fire clearance specifications (NFPA 211 1-8: Termination Heights) but it not be tallenough to develop adequate draft (NFPA 211 1-7). In this case it is permitted (NFPA 211 1-7-2.) to use adraft inducer fan ("a mechanical draft system of either forced or induced draft design") to meet the draftrequirements.

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Watch out: if you use a draft inducer system the installation must assure that the heating appliance won't runif the draft inducer is not running. Most if not all modern mechanical draft or draft inducer systems include thissafety feature as do direct-vent or side-wall vented appliances that use no chimney at all (another solution tosome chimney problems). Also see COMBUSTION AIR for TIGHT buildings.

Bachrach, Field, & Tjernlund are examples of companies providing draft inducing or mechanical draftboosting equipment and direct-venting equipment that skips use of a chimney altogether. [14[15[16]

Required Chimney Height Above Roof Surfaces or Ridges

Roof Clearances for Chimneys 10 Ft. or more distant from the Ridge

Masonry Chimney Roof ClearanceRequirements

The sketch at left shows the proper minimum chimneyheight and roof clearances for a masonry chimney.

Masonry chimneys must terminate at least 3 feet above

the highest point of contact with the roof structure (thevertical green arrow in our sketch at left), and chimneysshould extend 2 feet higher than any part of the structurewithin 10 feet horizontally (measurements as shown on theright side of the chimney in our sketch).

(Thanks to G. Howard for text clarification.) Summarizing:

For chimneys that are 10 Ft (3.1 m) or MORE away from the roof ridge (measured at the up-roof side of thechimney):

The top of the flue opening should be at least 10 Ft (3.1 m) away from any roof surface as measured bya horizontal line drawn from the top of the chimney flue opening to where it would touch the roof surface.(The vertical green arrow in the sketch)

The top of the flue opening should be 3 Ft (0.92 m) above any roof surface. (The horizontal red arrow inthe sketch) I.e. a vertical line drawn along the up-roof side of the chimney, from the roof surface to thetop of the chimney flue opening shall be at least 3 Ft in height. This is for masonry chimneys. For a gasvent or Type L vent this height must be 2 Ft (0.61m) or more.

Notice that we use the words any roof surface in this explanation. That means that if there are othernearby structures, say a dormer, the same clearance rules apply,

Roof Clearances for Chimneys Less than 10 Ft. (3.1m) from the Ridge

The photo at above right is a too-short metal chimney that is less than two feet above the ridge. This chimneyfails both the ten-foot rule (the blue line) and the two foot rule (the red line). A horizontal line drawn from thechimney top just touches the roof ridge.

For chimneys that are LESS than 10 feet from the roof ridge (measured at the up-roof side of thechimney)

We edited the short chimney photo to extend it up to meet the following roof clearance requirements (seeedited photo at left):

- The top of the chimney should be at least 2 Ft (0.61m)above the ridge (the vertical red line at the left of our photo)

and

- The top of the chimney should be at least 3 Ft (0.92 m)above the roof surface. (This specification makes suresteep roof slopes are cleared.) For gas vents or a type Lvent this distance must be at least 2 Ft (0.61m). (Verticalblue line along the left side of the chimney in our photo).

Watch out: We also notice that the chimney cap isdiscolored on this metal flue - possibly indicating anoverheated appliance or other unsafe condition. Did you

also notice that the sides of the chimney flashing are on top of rather than under the roof shingles?

Where to Make Measurements When Checking Chimney Clearances

Another question that has come up is "do we have to measure from the chimney cap or from the (lower)opening at the top of the flue? In specifying clearances the NFPA 211 refers to the "Highest Point" of the

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chimney.

Our reading of the NFPA and codes is that

Vertical chimney to roof measurements are made from the top of the chimney flue opening, not the

top of the chimney cap - reasoning that it is from the flue opening that an ash or spark might exit thechimney, making that the point of concern. Otherwise we could end up with an unsafe (too short)clearance of a low chimney on which someone stood a ridiculously tall "cap".

Horizontal chimney clearance distance measurements are made between the building surface

(roof or nearby wall or other nearby roof surface) and the nearest facing surface of the chimney side.

Roof Clearances for Wood Burning Fireplaces

Wood burning Fireplace Roof ClearanceRequirements

Carson Dunlop's sketch at left shows that the minimumchimney height above a wood burning fireplace is 15', andthat a shorter minimum of 5' may be acceptable above thedraft hood of a gas furnace is allowed in some jurisdictions.

Clearance specifications between Adjacent Metal Chimneys

Adjacent Metal Chimney SeparationRequirements

In addition to the requirement for safety fire clearance fromrooftops and other building components, separate metalchimneys that are too close to one another may causedamage resulting in poor chimney performance or anunsafe chimney.

Carson Dunlop's sketch at left shows that metal chimneysshould be at least 16" (that's 16 inches) apart to avoiddamage.

See Class A Chimneys, MetalBestos™

B-Vent Rooftop Clearance Specifications for Gas Fired Appliances & Heaters

Table of Type B-Vent Rooftop Clearance Requirements

The 1992 Vent Sizing Tables require that all Type B gas vents terminate above the roof with a listed

cap or listed roof assembly in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions.

Vent caps 12" and smaller may terminate a distance above the roof if 8 feet or more away from a vertical

surface as follows:

ROOF PITCH - rise/run in inchesMINIMUM HEIGHT*Flat to 7/12 - 1.0 foot above the roof surface7/12 to 8/12 - 1.5 feet above the roof surface8/12 to 9/12 - 2.0 feet above the roof surface

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9/12 to 10/12 - 2.5 feet above the roof surface10/12 to 11/12 - 3.25 feet above the roof surface11/12 to 12/12 - 4.0 feet above the roof surface* Continues to 21/12 pitch at 8.0 feet

Vent caps larger than 12" must be located at least 2 feet above thehighest point and 2 feet higher than any portion of the building within ahorizontal distance of 10 feet.

For details about metal chimneys see Metal Chimneys & Flues

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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) about chimney height & fire

safety clearance requirements specified by building codes andbest construction practices

Question: how to diagnose a smoky fireplace & chimney

Why would my fireplace smoke up the house during the time I have a fire. It's a masonry chimney. Also, mychimney is not 2 foot higher than the peek of the roof. - George Angell

I get smoke in my basement when I first light my fireplace. Both my fireplace flue and furnace flue are at thesame height. I also had my co detector go off the other day. Is the flue height being the same, be the reasonfor those 2 problems? TKS - Dom 4/11/12

Reply: "Why would my fireplace smoke up the house during the time I have a fire. It's a masonrychimney."

Dom and George:

If your flue is cold it can take a while for the chimney to heat up enough to establish a good draft over afireplace. To help things get going we often

Make sure the damper is fully opened and that the chimney is not blocked and not damaged - hire acertified chimney sweep to inspect the flue for safety and to clean it if necessary.

Light some newspaper placed at the back of the logs in the fireplace to help establish draft when you'refirst getting your fire going

Make sure the ash pit door for your fireplace is closed = if the ash pit door is open air entering at thatlocation will reduce draft seen in the fireplace. There may be ash pit doors both in the floor of thefireplace and also in the basement below the fireplace.

Be sure that the chimney cap is properly installed and is the right type - a bad or missing chimney capcan cause bad draft as well as allowing downdrafts.

Open a window or door near the fireplace so that there is plenty of good air flow into the room when youare lighting the fire - you can close this opening again once the fire is established.

Best practice: after correcting chimney height, making sure the chimney flue is sound and not blockedor dirty, provide outside combustion air for your fireplace

RE: "my chimney is not 2 foot higher than the peek of the roof."

The chimney should be extended to be at least 2 feet above the ridge if the chimney is at or close to theridge, or it should meet the height requirements shown in the sketch at page top.

If your chimney is too short it may not only result in inadequate draft (and improper heating system operation)but it can also be a fire hazard to the structure.

Question: Do we have to comply with chimney height clearance requirements fora 12/12 pitch roof? Does a power-vent flue excuse chimney height requirements?

We gave a 12/12 pitched roof and want to put a wood burning stove near the outside edge of the house (notnear the peak) - is there ANY configuration of chimney that will not have 12 feet (or more) of pipe sticking out

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of the roof line?

Routing the chimney flue pipe toward the peak is not really an option it would basically have to come up nearthe outside eaves - clearing 2 feet any roof surface within 10 feet means at least 12 feet of pipe as far as Ican tell. Are powered chimney vents an option? - Matt

Reply:

Matt: a line drawn horizontally from the top of the chimney to a point where that line would touch the roofsurface needs to give you ten feet in distance for fire safety. If your roof pitches up steeply that may mean youneed a rather high woodstove chimney to be safe. And you may need bracing.

I've not found references to power vent exhausts for woodstoves. Certainly it is not at all likely that a power-vented chimney would be more fire safe and thus would not need the same fire clearances as other chimneysand flues.

Question: What is the chimney clearance from the chimney pipe to a secondstory window?

i have a two story home. i just built a single story room off this home with a wood stove. what is the clearancefrom the chimney pipe to 2nd story window? it is already 2 feet above the ridge and 12 feet from the 2nd storywindows - Charlie

Reply:

Charlie I'm not sure I understand the picture and measurements of the addition you describe. If your chimneyis two feet above the ridge of the upper roof it would certainly not be too close to any windows.

If your chimney is two feet above the ridge of a roof over the one story addition, if you can't get more than 12feet of horizontal distance between chimney and windows of the upper floor, you probably need to extend thechimney above the upper roof, following the ten-foot horizontal line rule we describe above.

Otherwise in at least some conditions, someone is going to open an upper floor window and find smokeblowing into the room.

Question: We're adding a roof whose ridge will abut the existing chimney. Howdoes that affect chimney height clearance requirements?

I want to add a pitched roof to an existing home for a screened in porch. The point of the gable would go upagainst the existing chimney. Is that acceptable as long as the point of the gable (the highest point of theaddition) is still 3.5 feet below the top of the chimney?

Reply:

Dave that sounds OK to me, just be sure to properly flash against the chimney or you'll have leaks. That is, ifthe ridge of the lower roof, where it abuts the existing chimney, is three feet or more below the chimney top,you've met that clearance requirement (the three-foot chimney clearance rule).

Question: My masonry chimney extend 2' above the top of the pitch. Does it haveto be extended to 3'

My masonrychimney extend 2'above the top of thepitch. Does it haveto be extended to 3'above to complywith the NBC? -Frank

Reply: here is a

summary of

chimney code

and fire clearance

rules: the two-foot, three-foot, ten-foot rule for chimney heights:

Frank,

Some building code officials, builders, and chimney professionals call this simple chimney fire clearancecode the "two-foot, three-foot, ten-foot rule for chimney heights" - which we explain as follows:

Your chimney top to roof clearance (for fire safety) is correct if the chimney height extends:

The two-foot chimney rule: The chimney top must be two feet above the ridge of the roof (If the

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chimney is at or very close to the ridge) This is the red line at the right side of our chimney height sketchabove.

The three-foot chimney rule: The chimney top must be three feet (or more) above the roof surface

(measured right next to the chimney, at the up-slope side of the chimney). This is the vertical green linein our chimney clearance sketch above.

The ten-foot chimney rule: The chimney top must be high enough above the roof surface such that a

horizontal (level) line drawn from the chimney top to the nearest roof surface will run ten feet or morebefore that line touches the nearest (up-slope) roof surface. The ten foot chimney height rule isillustrated by the blue line in our sketch above.

Take a look at the chimney height clearance requirements sketch at the top of this page. The only confusingdetail in that sketch is that the "ten foot chimney height rule" horizontal line was shown as drawn mid waydown the chimney - really that line is drawn from the chimney TOP to the nearest roof surface.

Question: My A-Frame chimney is just one foot above the roof if measured at theridge - do I need to extend it

I have an "A" frame cottage with a new metal roof. The woodstove has a 10" insulated metal chimney whichextends above the roof line by approximately 7 ft. and is above the peak by maybe 1 ft.

Reply: details of the ten-foot rule for chimney distances from nearby roof surfaces

Bruce:

Ok, so technically your flue is one foot short; perhaps given the very steep roof and that it's metal, I'm not asworried as I'd be otherwise, but it's possible that the chimney is not fire safety and code compliant for asecond reason: if you were to draw a horizontal line from your chimney top towards the ridge, and if thehorizontal distance from the top to the ridge is less than 10 feet, then properly your chimney needs to go upanother foot.

On the other hand if the horizontal distance from your chimney to the ridge is ten feet or more, you're ok as is.

At CHIMNEY HEIGHT & CLEARANCE CODE you can find articles on required chimney heights above the roof line.

Question: Exactly where do we measure chimney roof clearances?

Refer to the sketch titled "Masonry Chimney Roof Clearance Requirements". The line that is drawn that illustrates the 10 feet run is placed in the middle of the chimney. Depending onwhere you place this line has a HUGE impact on how high the chimney needs to be. If this line were drawn onthe top of the chimney it would need to be substantially taller. Where am I supposed to take the measurementfrom?? - Jason Vetter 3/11/12

Reply:

Jason, you are dead right - the page top chimney to roof clearance sketch has long bothered me too, leadingto other photos and sketches on this page that showed the required distances correctly. We have reviewed,edited, and adjusted all of the chimney clearance measurement drawings and photos in the article above toclarify these distances.

The original NFPA-211 drawings on which the page top sketch was based were equally confusing.

For chimneys that are 10 Ft (3.1 m) or MORE away from the roof ridge (measured at the up-roof side of thechimney):

The top of the flue opening should be at least 10 Ft (3.1 m) away from any roof surface as measured bya horizontal line drawn from the top of the chimney flue opening to where it would touch the roof surface.

The top of the flue opening should be 3 Ft (0.92 m) above any roof surface. I.e. a vertical line drawnalong the up-roof side of the chimney, from the roof surface to the top of the chimney flue opening shallbe at least 3 Ft in height. This is for masonry chimneys. For a gas vent or Type L vent this height mustbe 2 Ft (0.61m) or more.

Notice that I use the words "any roof surface" in this explanation. That means that if there are other nearbystructures, say a dormer, the same clearance rules apply,

For chimneys that are LESS than 10 feet from the roof ridge (measured at the up-roof side of the chimney)

The top of the chimney should be at least 2 Ft (0.61m) above the ridge

and

The top of the chimney should be at least 3 Ft (0.92 m) above the roof surface. (This specificationmakes sure steep roof slopes are cleared.) For gas vents or a type L vent this distance must be at least2 Ft (0.61m).

Another question that has come up is "do we have to measure from the chimney cap or from the (lower)

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opening at the top of the flue? In specifying clearances the NFPA 211 refers to the "Highest Point" of thechimney.

My opinion of the NFPA and codes is measurements are made from the top of the chimney flueopening, not the top of the chimney cap - reasoning that it is from the flue opening that an ash or sparkmight exit the chimney, making that the point of concern. Otherwise we could end up with an unsafe (tooshort) clearance of a low chimney on which someone stood a ridiculously tall "cap".

Thanks so much again for the reminder to fix this, Jason. We welcome reader questions and comments. Weare dedicated to making our information as accurate, complete, useful, and unbiased as possible: we verymuch welcome critique, questions, or content suggestions for our web articles. Working together andexchanging information makes us better informed than any individual can be working alone.

Question: can I fix my own chimney?

I just had a home inspection done and the inspector said that my furnace pipe that goes through the roofneeds to be extended (metal pipe) is that something I can do myself - Rusty 4/18/12

Reply:

Sorry Rusty but not to be glib, i don't know your capability. The chim materials and extension need to meetcode, be secure and od correct materials. You could get a bid from a chi net person who is certified.

Question: We had a chimney fire and a WETT inspection

I live in a Cape Cod style home. We recently had a chimney fire and a subsequent WETT inspection. I wastold that the chimney does not meet code and is not 2 feet taller than the nearest structure. I am wonderingwhat the code was in 1990 when the house was built? We live in southern Ontario. - Sara 1/10/12

Hi, I've found an answer for the "what was the code 21 years ago" question. Now I'm wondering what I can dore. the chimney that is apparently 8" below code. Do I have to pay to have it fixed even though it's not myfault? No one has ever mentioned the 2' rule before and I worry that we've had a chimney that is unsafe for 21years. The inspection cost $339 and I need to know how I can fix this situation. I can't use the fireplace now.Sara 1/12/12

Reply:

Sara the risk of a house fire is deadly serious and deserves a proper and safe chimney. The fact that no onementioned chimney safety to you is a bit cloudy to me - unless you had a professional inspection or serviceperformed on the home I'm not sure who was on site before a chimney fire or related problem to examine thehome and and inform you.

The question of who pays for repairs is one to discuss with your attorney.

Question: my chimney extends 2 ft not 3 ft up above the roof surface. Does itcomply?

My masonry chimney extend 2' above the top of the pitch. Does it have to be extended to 3' above to complywith the NBC? - Frank 9/6/11

Reply:

Some building code officials, builders, and chimney professionals call this simple chimney fire clearancecode the "two-foot, three-foot, ten-foot rule for chimney heights" - which we explain as follows:

Your chimney top to roof clearance (for fire safety) is correct if the chimney height extends:

The chimney top must be two feet above the ridge of the roof (If the chimney is at or very close to

the ridge)

The chimney top must be three feet (or more) above the roof surface (measured right next to the

chimney, at the up-slope side of the chimney - see our sketch above)

The chimney top must be high enough above the roof surface such that a horizontal (level) line

drawn from the chimney top to the nearest roof surface will run ten feet or more before that line touchesthe nearest (up-slope) roof surface.

Take a look at the chimney height clearance requirements sketch at the top of this page. The only confusingdetail in that sketch is that the "ten foot chimney height rule" horizontal line was shown as drawn mid waydown the chimney - really that line is drawn from the chimney TOP to the nearest roof surface.

Question: Can I put in my own chimney using a single wall and triple wall?

if i install an older stove in my shop , will i suffer any code violations if putting in everything myself , using newsingle wall below and triple out the metal roof with one inch space between wall and durarock used as a heatspacer ? - Mike 1/5/12

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Mike, possibly yes.

In many U.S. & Canadian jurisdictions a building permit and approval inspection are required for theinstallation of woodstoves and other heating appliances.

Question: smoky fireplace on first lighting a fire

I get smoke in my basement when I first light my fireplace. Both my fireplace flue and furnace flue are at thesame height. I also had my co detector go off the other day. Is the flue height being the same, be the reasonfor those 2 problems? TKS - Dom 4/11/12

Reply: how to improve fireplace draft on initial ignition of a fire

Dom,

There are plenty of reasons for backdrafting when first lighting a fire, including a chimney that is blocked, tooshort, has an open cleanout door, and more. Here are some things to check in order to improve fireplacedraft when first lighting a fire:

1. Watch out: Have your chimney checked for safety and blockage and it's clear, and have the chimneycleaned of creosote and soot; depending on the amount of usage and type of fuel burned in a fireplace,chimney cleaning may need to be performed more or less often than annually.

2. If your fireplace and chimney are older and do not include an outdoor combustion air supply, then tryopening a nearby window or door to assure very good air supply and no negative air pressure whenfirst lighting the fireplace. Once the fire is going well you should be able to close the window or door; ofcourse this will draw some cool air into the house and result in a net heat loss, but, then, operating aconventional fireplace (without glass doors or other features) will pretty much always result in a net heatloss to the building.

3. Because the fireplace chimney and air in the chimney are cold when you first light a fire in a fireplace,the initial warm smoky air can face inadequate draft - it has trouble pushing up that column of cold air.You can improve the initial draft by lighting some newspaper placed at the back of the fireplace.

Question: how do I find sizes and dimensions for a fireplace box?

Is there somewhere I can find standard fire box sizes for a masonry fireplace? - Lou 4/25/2012

Reply:

Lou - certainly - just search InspectApedia for "fireplace dimensions" and you'll find the article. Or go directlyto FIREPLACES & HEARTHS

Question: is 25 feet to a nearby roof ridge sufficient chimney clearancedistance?

We built a one and a half story garage next to a breezeway that separates the house by an additional 12 feetmaking the ridge of the garage 25 feet from the top of the chimney to the top of the ridge,the ridge is evenwith the top of chimney which is 25 feet away is this a safe distance between them? - Paul F. 4/29/12

Reply:

Paul,

if you've checked the sketches on chimney clearance distances shown on this page (10 ft. from a roof, 3 feetabove the roof, etc) I'm unclear on the question in your note. If you are saying your chimney top is 15 feetaway from a ridge that is at the same height, it's certainly past any clearance issue. Keep in mind howeverthat wind effects on a chimney can indeed be affected by more distant site conditions, even a hill, or trees. Soif there is a draft issue changes could be needed.

Question: Objection to neighbor's chimney fumes

I wonder if you could advise me - a neighbour some thirty years ago put on a side extension and wanted toput a chimney in. I put in an objection to this due to the fact that the smoke would come into my garden andacross the front of my home. He wrote to me assuring me that his intention was to use a gas fire and not awood or coal burning stove/fire and he would never extend his chimney. Recently he has extended hischimney by approximately one meter? I am now getting fumes from the fire both in the front and rear of thehouse and if I open the windows the fumes come in. I live in the Barnet area North London. - Gordon 5/6/2012

I should have mentioned that it was a single storey extension with a flat roof. Look forward to hearing fromyou.

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Gordon, I'm a bit puzzled by this description, but you didn't give any chimney clearance distances. Indeed agas fireplace won't produce smoke, and if properly adjusted shouldn't be producing strong fumes that bothera neighbor, but the real answer to the question includes knowing the distances involved. The same clearancedistances that apply to building a chimney on an individual home would certainly provide minimum clearancedistances between neighbors. Did your neighbor obtain a building permit and approvals for his construction?

Question: Can I vent a gas fireplace into a masonry chimney in bad shape?

I would like to vent gas fireplace insert into masonry chimney. The chimney is in bad shape, but the portion 3ft above the rooftop is good. Will venting to 3 ft height be sufficient with appropriate manufacturers specifiedmetal liner? Do I need to concern myself with lateral 10 ft dimensions? - Roman, 5/27/12

Reply:

Roman,

Usually if a chimney is structurally sound it is relined or a liner is run up thorough it. For a gas fireplace that'dbe a B-vent of sufficient diameter. In fact, a chimney that is too large in diameter for the appliance it ventsmay never work properly as a small appliance can't heat the chimney enough to establish a good draft;

If you line the entire chimney to the top, and better, use an insulated liner or insulate around the liner, thedesign should work.

And yes you still need to apply proper chimney clearance rules for gas vented appliances or B-vents.

Watch out: DO NOT just terminate a vent up inside the chimney - you're asking for dangerous carbon

monoxide hazards and other problems. The height of the chimney above the roof surface depends on whereit exits - and is shown, explained, and illustrated ad nauseam in the article above.

Question: chimney fumes bothersome on adjacent roof deck

I have an old masonry chimney that extends about 5 feet above the flat roof in an old four story townhouse(brownstone).

The problem is I have a roof deck on that flat roof and recently I've noticed fumes frequently if not constantlycoming out of the chimney. There were always some fumes but not to this extent. Since it's June, the fumeswould be from heating of the hot water which is heated by the year 2001 oil burner.

1) I think we need our boiler adjusted, do you agree?

2) Can we extend our chimney to vent the fumes higher? Do we need to extend the chimney using masonryand how much higher would you recommend? - Judy, 6/10/12

Reply:

Judy, I'm not sure there is a single correct answer to your question because local and site conditions (winddirection, downdrafts, other obstructions, as well as condition of the oil fired heating equipment) all affect theproduction of odors and downdrafts that may send chimney fumes down onto an adjacent area. But certainly Iagree that

1. the heating system should be cleaned and adjusted annually; if after your service tech leaves the chimneyis showing smoke then something is still wrong and you need to talk with the service manager for your oilheating company. See OIL BURNER INSPECTION & REPAIR for a complete guide to oil burner troubleshooting &tuneup.

2. the chimney height of five feet is certainly inadequate clearance above an occupied deck; you may need toat least double that, as well as providing bracing.

Question: outdoor wood fired oven with a metal flue and a canopy

Building an outdoor wood-fired oven that will have a metal flue. Plan on a permanent canopy in front of it witha metal roof. Roof of oven will be hardiboard (cement product). What kind of clearance will I need betweenthe roof of the flue-top and the oven. Between the flue-top and the roof of the canopy? - Frank, 7/7/2012

Reply:

See the chimney clearance specifications above as a starting point, but because your oven (of unspecifieduse) may be in service for long periods or at unusual temperatures, it makes sense to also check with yourlocal fire inspector.

Question: outdoor wood fired boiler chimney clearance to building - endingbelow roof

With a 2 story walkout basement can I put an outdoor wood boiler with the chimney 10'+ from the wall/guttereven though the top of the chimney would not reach the roofline? - John Henry, 7/23/12

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I'm doubtful, John; a chimney ending below the roof line of a two story house may meet the ten-foot distancerule correctly, but I suspect that in at least some conditions you'll be blowing smoke at nearby windows andwalls.

Question: three adjacent chimneys

I came across a house today that has three chimneys right next to each other. The first two is a wood burningfireplace and the second is for three gas appliances: a boiler, water heater and a gas free standing stove.Just above these two chimneys is a steel plate and above the plate is a third chimney for a free standingwood stove. I know its wrong in so many ways but can't fine a reference. - Kelly Moore 8/27/12

Reply:

Kelly, send us some photos or sketches and we might have a clear enough understanding of the situation youdescribe to offer some comment.

Question: installing a wood stove through a one story roof

Greetings; I am considering installing a wood stove on the back end of a single story kitchen addition whichhas a low pitch roof. The kitchen addition is about.18 feet away from where it joins on to a story and a halfmain part of the house. The second story has one window about 18'. away from the proposed stove pipewhich will be a Selkirk.SS type. Question: How far does the chimney need to be from the second story portionof the house to be safe from sparks and smoke? Thanks- from someone who does not want to freeze anotherwinter because he cannot afford oil. QC - Rev. Quincy Collins, 9/2/12

Reply:

Rev. Collins,

The answer is in the text above - the same rule for structures applies as for adjacent roof surfaces. See "RoofClearances for Chimneys 10 Ft. or more distant from the Ridge"

Question: what is the minimum chimney height up through a flat roof near twowindows?

What is the minimum height clearance needed for a wood burning stove pipe when exiting a flat roof. the roofis in front of two 1st floor windows thanks - Paula Moss 10/2/12

Reply:

Paula:

The minimum chimney heights above roof are in the article above. For the case you describe, there are otherdistances like from windows, and depending on the total chimney height, even meeting the above-roofminimum distance (3 ft. on a flat roof) may not be tall enough.

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