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Topic 2: Can you lose your Salvation?

The Process

• This week:– Begin approach from a Theocentric,

assurance perspective– Continue Theocentric perspective and then

evaluate this perspective

• Next week:– Anthropocentric, non-secure approach– Evaluate anthropocentric approach– Quiz – Dialog from both points of view

Can you “Lose it?”

What’s involved?Who Saves?

How is one saved?

What is the historical/biblical pattern of choosing/saving?

What is offered?

What was said? What are the implications?

What happens at salvation?

What would have to happen to lose salvation?

Who saves?• Gen. 49:18• Exodus 14:13, 15:2• 1 Sam. 2:1• 2 Sam. 22:3• Psalm 3:8, 13:5, 18:2, 38:22,

51:10-17, 62:1-7, 79:9, 85:4-7, 98:1-3

• Ezekiel 16• Isaiah 12, 60, 61

• Luke 1:67-79, 2:25-32• John 3:16, 4:22 (Rom. 3:1-2)• Acts 4:12, 13:22-30, 28:23-

28• Rom. 1:16• Eph. 1:13• 1 Thess. 5:8-11• Titus 2:11-15• 1 Peter 1:3-11• Jude 3• Rev 7:10, 19:1

How is one saved?

• Mark 10:23-27• Luke 7:36-50• John 10:7-18• Acts 2:14-21, 15:1-11, 16:30-31• Romans 5:6-11• 1 Cor. 1:18-25, 3:10-15,

What is the pattern?• Noah• Abraham – Genesis

18:17-19• Israel – Deut. 4:32-39,

7:6-7, 10:12-16, 14:2; Ezekiel 16, 20:5

• Prophets – Samuel, Ezekiel, others

• Priests – Deut 18:4-7

• John• Disciples (John 6:70,

13:18 & 26, )• Cornelius• Messiah – Matt. 12:18• Paul (Acts 9:15, 22:11)• Matt. 22:14; Mark 13:19-

20; John 15:12-17; Romans 11:1-11; Eph. 1:3-6; 1 Thess. 1:4, 2 Thess. 2:13

• The term “elect”

What’s Offered?• John 3

– Salvation– New birth– Eternal life

• John 10– Goodness– Strength– Security– Protection

• John 14– Presence– Help– Guidance

What was said?• JOHN 17• 6 “I have manifested Your name to the

men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

• 7 “Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You;

• 8 for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me.

• 9 “I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;

• 10 and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them.

• The Father gave the disciples

• Jesus was faithful

• Jesus gives them back

What was said?• cont . . . • 11 “I am no longer in the

world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are.

• 12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.

• Jesus’ intention was to leave the disciples in the world

• No one was lost, but the one that was intended to be lost

What was said?• cont . . . • 18 “As You sent Me into the

world, I also have sent them into the world.

• 19 “For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.

• 20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;

• 21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

• Jesus’ intention was to leave the disciples in the world

• Disciples are sanctified

• The scope just got BIGGER

• Trinitarian unity is offered

What was said?• Romans 8• 28 And we know that God

causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

• 29 For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;

• 30 and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

• God causes everything to work toward good for those– Who love Him– Who He called– According to His Purpose

• The time frame is in the “past” for the accomplishment– Foreknew (meaning of v. 28)– Predestined– Conformed– Called– Justified– Glorified– All, already happened

Is God a False Prophet?

• 21 “You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’

• 22 “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

• Deut. 18:21-22 (emphasis added)

What happened?

At Salvation• “Eternal life” is promised

(John 3:16)• We are reborn from above

(John 3:7)• we are a new creation in

Christ Jesus (2 Cor. 5:17)• we are part of the body of

Christ (1 Cor. 12:12-20)• Reconciled (2 Cor 5:18-20;

Col 1:20))• Redeemed (Col 1:14; 1 Pet

1:18)

To lose salvation• Unfulfilled promise• Unreborn• No longer new Creation• Dismembered from the

Body of Christ• In eternal debt again• Snatched into slavery again

What happened?

At Salvation• Old man crucified (Rom 6:6)• Dead with Christ (Rom 6:4,8;

Col 2:12)• Dead to sin (1 Pet 2:24)• Dead and Delivered from the

law (Rom 7:4; Gal 3:25; 2 Cor 3:11)

• Sons of God (I John 3:3; 2 Cor 6:18)

• Adopted into the family of God (Rom 8:15, 23)

To lose salvation• Old man resurrected• Lost benefit of Christ’s

death• Resurrected to sin• Enslaved again to the Law• Rejected by my Father• Kicked out of God’s family

What happened?

At Salvation• Perfected forever (Heb

10:14)• Justified (Rom 3:24, 5:1; 1

Cor 6:11)• Made near to God (Eph 2:13)• Delivered from the Powers

of Darkness (Col 1:13; 2:13-15)

• Translated into the Kingdom (Col 1:13)

• Heart circumcised in Christ (Col 2:11)

To lose salvation• Not forever• Justice failed• Removed from God• Given back to powers of

darkness• Kicked out of the Kingdom• Heart reverse circumcision

What happened?

At Salvation• A Royal Priesthood (1 Peter

2:5,9)• Access to the Father (Eph

2:18; Rom 5:2; Heb 4:14-16)• His Inheritance (Eph 1:18)• Co-Heirs with Christ (Rom

8:17; Eph 3:6)• Partners with Christ in

Suffering (2 Tim 2:12; Phil 1:29; 1 Pet 2:20)

• Heavenly Citizens (Phil 3:20; Eph 2:19; Heb 12:22)

To lose salvation• Kicked out of court• Lose access to Father• Lose inheritance• Lose position in Christ• Lose ability to suffer rightly• Lose heavenly citizenship

What happened?

At Salvation• Indwelt with Holy Spirit (Jn.

14:17)• Sealed with the Spirit as a

deposit (Eph. 1:13-14)• Kept safe (Jn. 10, Jude 24)• Salt and Light (Eph 5:8; Matt

5:13-15; Col 4:6; Rom 13:12)• Complete in Him (Col 2:10)• Possessing Every Spiritual

Blessing (Eph 1:3)

To lose salvation• Unindwelt• Seal and deposit not good• Not safe in God• Lose constitution• Made incomplete again• Lose every spiritual blessing

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