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BOOX #7
J?RKSIDENT ROOSfiELT
April 12 , l94.S
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I oalled. on PruUent Truaan at 9 100 thh 110rnln.g, and he u w M a little bit before g,oo. He didn't kup M waitlng a lllinute. I wnt ill, ud hi etar hd to tell M bow W.dl.r be tilt and be nld, "I tblnk I acb.lred Yr. Roounlt u ~eh
f!/:u t:l:p:o!, '!~i. ·~ :::·~b~~ an~a!~~l~=·~bi:i~ae!' t:·~~~~e hill to 00111 do.n with hia thh aornin.g. He alto ctlled Byrnu , &nd he .. a, eo. reu.rk that he would like to han all the Cabinet but, ot eouru , there wun't rooa tor thaa.
wut ;o:a!!·r:!i1!ba~· ~·:~::t~ .. ! :tr:d'!,t~a~·!~·I~ I ::~~a"H:a ;:a~· ·ia~:;/~~:t~:~;~:t ;·::rtdfi hr:.~·~h~!'!!!ll& ::Jh:~r~:gg~ P!e~rr:. 0::d •:,•!~~Gib!:"j~,~a~::: ::~1doed tor the ueond tl•· " I uld, "MT iret ldu h to win the war and then I want to win the puce,• llld he uld, "That ' • what I want to do.•
I uid, "I hne bun doing a lot of thiqe whiob Yr. ~~:1:::!~•bai :i~:u=~:~ !in t!/jo~~a~ :•::~7·~:!!!bi!"'u'7 beeauu • • aond the tlnanehl caplt&l troll London llld 'fall Str11 t right to a, auk at the Treuu17 . " He uid, "That'• where I want to kup it," 10 I uli!., "Well, the big b071 will be &tter .. , and I can't do what I ben b .. n dolq unhu I hne the eo.-plete backing ot the Pr11ldent. • He edd, "You will ben thet t roa ... •
Then I uid, "1 would like to talk to yob 10111e tiM about G•r:u.Dir• I b.&n 10111 "'1'7 i!.etlnite ldtu, 1111d I would like to :?!:~ia t~ik, t~/b:ow1111!b:~t1it• t¥• a~~~~e~~::~ep!~: · :o ~irf:!~· ene11 betw11n Stettinlul llld 1111, but the ditfereneu are i!.o.n the line. The7hnen'teerriedout thePruldent'e ordere.• I said, "1 lot ot people in the State Dtpart..nt wer• there !:a H::~~~~:.!!:! i. :»d s!~b! ::1a: t ~:~~:~a:~~·i:~ ~t: :tw t~::l ~~l:~d7.f~~e si!t~i~;~~:~:i ~Ge~;~o ..::~~~ :;1:·~:.:!'1:~o dittennce ot opinion.• Tnau.n uta , •t don't want t.ll1' tuulng ~twnnJOUIIIId.Stettlnlue . • Iuid, "Tbereh no tuning~tween
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Ul. Wt get dong YU'J well together, but wlut I aa worried
':!!\~~~ !t: :::~!~ ~ad~~~·tn:a.~:~t!~~~·~~P:~~~:.~~·l• t:l~: ::~:; :~ ~!.•;::sa:~~h ell the .eabera of the Cabinet, •
I uid, "We will be on the train !or eight houri COlling back, .:~d if rou ere eo inclined I would like to han e chuot
~:1!:lf1 t:1~u 1!p~~~~~~ -::1:bo~:~•j!o;0:o:::;,o:l~h .!, on the Bill for JUttl'dty1'~ Ht ,,{a tbt he would ut •• on thttl'dn.
I thawed hia the !few York TU.a •h•r• JI:I"Ug uld he '11&1
ti~:g ,!;1::·~~· ,£!~:• o~r.: · at Hi2:~~' •i,'~!~::~ • ;.:b!:-· :::.~b:~: :b~!t111i;~• {'~a!~;tbowan!h!~\!"~a0:o~: ;~rdo~o I uid, •1 think 1t h right that tht war planta 1hould be worki ng. • H• uid, -wan, I thin.k that • • should 1hut the
( ~!:!~~· ~o: ~~r;~fnot~:. r~:!~!· ;h:~ ~~ ;:!t!~!a t~~!c!!!{ng, but that the arrangement• hed been ude to atop !or a ehort
i~1i:: ~o 1!:u!d~·:r!:1:.U:n ·:~tn;1 th;~1.~i·~:. 1 ~:::~!!t. ehould 11lon d ]800 and I n.n't change that.• I think it lt llll7 !or the Gonrruent to <llou dcmt at 12:00.
Truaan baa a zalnd o! hh own • .h hil took • to the door ,
!:.;•}::t•::-1! wan.! {o~b~~~~"!~l!:r::·;o::~ IH:•~:{d:I~!! . the tlae ooan ~at rou 11an't , 70u will hear !roD IU tint dlreot.•
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!fdt~ C!~::i•~i::i~!~~::!r.!~n r:::i:H~!~o~~ ~r.~~ I 11111 that tllhwolliightlllllllfecablnetwitlltllt l'Otl of contiliuetfroatb•S•n•t•, I.Ddtht whehgoYti'IIUnt woul d uttlt dewnand ge towerk . Tbe7liktd tbe Uutdrl1••ll.
reu•~u;::1 t!:r~~ 'io:;ot~!'!~!~o 1!::. •t~t~!~:d I t:u:::n~r oll.thtpboD.e , butihadh.rllaberwror~&, tolnntaSicret
~":i:!art!rr~~ ~::: ~'.!;'!,:;1~~:·~01:,!~e~!~~·.:~rlnd 'lhtn I wu onr tt the ho1111 to phone, I t oUDd](re, Jouph
Lull,&ndtbth&dtpentthenlgbtallalonelnththoll.ltand didn't know what to do or whtrt to go. She thought Kn .• Roou· ultwateoalngtethtllouu. Itowlioutthetehl wnn•t,to I took Kr1. Luh onr to the gtrden, and I told her I wu doing it beeeuu I thought it would pluu llr1. Roounlt, whloll wun't l'lr'f0011pll .. nh.r7tohtr.
Itwn tbrllllut, ohud11, &nd the tlO'IIert •toodo11t
!l!! !!~:~~~:r~!·:~!· ~!tirt!!h;"':~ !!e!,:u~~ebl!:f::•· :!d t¥e t!:~•h,r I d:: :~"~!d t~!i~t .;a~.~eb~:• t!~' _:aL:d ,:,:A. 'llloh, and then sba ttlt bttttr.
her t~!:_·~~1io1s::11!.~dsi:O~:!. b.~i'~'!;~t~bo!tk:! bour'llltbat. Wt jutt nioel7 got etarteli taU:i~~,g wben Fr&nou
~::t~~t bt:f~ it · &n~h:1~i !:e ·:~~~~':d1{o~1~0i1 t~4th!r Kin Tu.ll7 &nd I bad to talk about tOM tin&noitl Qthrt 1a whlohthtPruldtntand Jwtrtptrtnert,&ndthetookthehlnt and got out.
b11t 1!-:U:~.r;·:r~:~ :~:t;::.f~~~:~.!h}ir!~o:ti~!~1bf: ~i:~· prenurt nnt up to 300 and lllbnqut~~tl.J' dropped to 200. Tbt7
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uid that tha7 did ao.thlllg about rooTing the ull.n and
b~1~e t:~.!~~~ fi!.il, o;:::.~o .::;~·~:~: !!r!rj!!~1~' c=:a:~ t:·~. bx::;h!h~ :~~~:~a~-tt:t :::.;~1~ ~;:.. the PretbJhrlanHoepl.hl, but I g&thared thatidJU.ral
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:i!!~:~::r:!j~~n~!:~1~z:;:~:E~!:i~:::!:!o~h~!y!h!:~ fro.mt;woorthreeuurcu thatthaPJ'ul.danthdananl&rged hurt. I don't think tha7 had aulflehnt •edical can or Jttfntion do.nthere,considaringthe-...n'teondltion. ·
I told Tully that it abo wantfd it abe eould bn • Job hera in the TNIUU17• She •n n17 auch touched, but abe nid
~::.!:!~~~:: ~:::t~:;:::~~ ~ti?::::~::!~ :!:~:~lh~:~ ~::t I ui:edher if the Pnal.d.nt hadbunutitfhdwlth ..
::~.:t:::~ ~o~·~ ::i~!·~h:1:o~tr:n'. !&1 sh:n~.~:· th!~dih. De~ ~t::•;!p!r;!.:t~h'Sh! !~~a an~.~o~~:! ~!:.!h! :~!!o:":r t~:r17 .
.Lfter lunch lull:d to an lira. Roonnlt, and7ou had to fo .!!r::!!.~.:·~~:~!. T::U'~oir h~: !'!o!ld~ike R~:·:::l~! oar. &f terw&rda.
with !e~·:e~e ·:rri:~c:n~·~t.w!~}.~rj~t!?:':rr!t~~..!~ t;;.~~~·
~~:!:!~~d !~: ·::r;r;=::f:!1~!~ j~~~;:::!if:i:~~:t:~~~:~·u•· !~e1n!:'!r~~~~n:n~f l,o~~i::: · wh!r:1:h:; :::e~ 1 ~:. JR~setel t wu n1'7 1wnt and cala, hut abe looked rather drawn. She i-adiatel7at&rt&d to t&lk about Kn. llorgentbau, and told u ::o~: ~~ If:~• T~~::m:~d t~b!~•:: !~:n"!! t:b:o~:~:n ,!~l~1'n;d arr•nged 1he would want to apend eo• tim• with lin. lforgantb&u.
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•l th ~: · b~:oii::~~ 1;h:;r:~id .~"io •:t!,!~: !t f~~~~g~~:o t~:,
!!5i::~!~~~=r !~~i::! o~t::;-:~:~::n:~::~~~~::; •:ow tbdr tathn did, but tht7bdh1't th17 are on 1 •hip .ud han ndlo dhnct. Sba aaid thatduriq the p..riodabe wouli!. hue to Glrf7 tht utah and before the ntate wu probated, abe •irchtbantoborrow aon.Jfromthebanlt. ItoldherMra.
~h:t•:::·~h:~a1 .. :r~~: ~ ~h! 1e!:~ tit 1:~:.:·~h!~'n!! .. 0{c::!or ~i.!~:~~.:~ 1 =~!!~!:!:i~:;::i:~f:?:fi~~~~~:!'~o ~in-Doe~O'Connori!.on ' tll!•tdongult •uDooO'CoMo~ogot Beh7 her al..-orce . llllot uld tlltt be alght Wlll\t to eoM to
i.',!::a':!!~'Ro!!:.,!~t·~: !~!t.~: !!~!t.r'!bo!i ~ !!:'· fhla.nchlthtue , aAdtla nid , •Abaolu.tet,'not.•
T~!bo~~o:::·~:· :!! !~~! g:tt:~~~t::·~~~i.'~!,h!0whl:, Ho11u • n• taktn<~are of . She did 1puk .toTrwaan lll\d he nld that he would be gh.d to keep enn Graot Tull7, and I tdd that
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tor llrt. Roon'lllt, but the uid, •There are two renont w1Q" JOIICilD. 1tdothft, latlltflrltpl&C1 1 JOIICilD. 1tgttoutof tht J.1'117, and I oouldn't alford. to knp f0\1.• TI'IIUII u.id thtt ht would kttp tht whoh thlt Of! ,
arrd!.t~:~!:!d\lf:~ ::::·:: 1!o!:t~1: 11!o0~:~ !h.':!~~~r.~::~~~~~~ !:.~~~r.;:~i!n~' t~e~'h:~ !:i~:":!th,:n..!. thit a~i~~~~~~t~~! :!!u no longer htn"to be worried tbout bting tbt wih ot tb Prnident,t.ll.dtbtcouldtalkonhtr01111. Sheatld, "Do7ou MilD. I tho\lld ti.J , 'Thh it what tht Prtddtnt tholl(ht, ' or ''hh h what the Pruidtnt uid?' • llD.d I nid, "lfo .• Wall,
P~:~~~:!t 0!n,~di1!!!~aw!:!~'~o"b:.~11b!r~11 s~' d~~!?: ;~t t~: ~h:~t~L,;h:!~~i:'~an~\!"h!,~\!~~ ,;itt ot it , and 1 uturtd hn
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Elliot said that ha and his Mothe r ere "orried about what is going to happen to John and Anna - a .ror17 I don ' t particularl;y ~hara - but the;y have taken l;;!!o roo:u at the Shore hat:~ .
Iuked Elliot holfthe "ar "ugoingand hese.id, "I'Iell, ~\~it~!hp!!rri~~~· has notice to be ehrted tn so days to
Thenir;entba.ckand I u ked to see HlUIIIegan . He and I went into one of the co::~part~nh inTr=an' a car , and we z:tus thavet&lkedabout &hal!tothree- quarterso!anhour. I gave him rq ide:~. about th<'l whole Ca!:linet resigning, (llld he
!.!"~o!t~ha~ ~:i~hi~~~uab::~ {~~~ ~~~~~~ ~0 e~~~w:it 1!!rbe I will be cuttlng NY own thro&t with \That I lll:l going to say noJ< . H Isaid, Hinthe !ir3 t place , Idon' tlikeByrnee , and
; :~~:~ ~!t:~:1r"~~h~:·;yr!e:a~!~r:i,.!~ 1~~ ~~~:~~o~0~t~ make
~~:l~~~ti~re! !~~~h!~1~~s Hf~s~5 am.ro~ 8~~ 8;o t~i~r~rn:d in
~~~~~~g~8 i~1~~e ~~u~~'lh!h~il!h t~:; ~~t~~nh! ~~: :l!.,!~~8~ther head . ldnn ' tthinkhel'loulddoTrur.:aneny gond bec&usehe jl!stca:t 't playcn anybcdy'3 tew:t .ft I snirl , HI thinkit\10>.;lil. be bad if Trllill8n bkea hi!!! . I dnn't l:now h011 you f eel." Hannezan said, "I agree with you comple tel1·"
I also M•itl, "Annther thin~: you c&n pa~~ o:~ to 'i'rt.:.::~~n i.~ that this ideaofhaving20people s tCsbin»tis ridiculous.
~~~n~~!~ ~:~:!d d~i t~ "'~u~~~e::i~: t~~.~~~~~h:a~t;h~oll~(u~~n~~d . " there l'!hen the Pr~siden t di ed it looked lika a carni val." '
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I nld, "We ought to have a'lfarCablnet1we ahouldhan an
:~·:~:tt::aw::a:hlu!~o:id'n:t~;r~:1~~~~:.~ ~r·~! ~:hr~~ and find out it lt la agr .. able to the l'ruidant !or •• to
~:t!c ·~:~ ~r:!t::t":~:~i; 1:• ,::!~d :~~:-t· ~o:,i~'n~, ·~~:!a U~f· :T:.~i~ t!!7 B~:~:o!\•!:f!:n~; ~~:~ ~~:~o::!~~! t!hou{~ I .upport ... "
Tbeni toldHe.nnaguaboutrqtaU:wlth thePrnio:llnt when I told hl.a that I waa ac:c\lltOIIIId to running rq own Departaent, and he uld, "That'• what frwun wanh. Ht wlll ght fOil coapleh independence. That'& the • ..,. he oparatu.•
he to~k'::!~ ;:t!,m;o t~:~u;to~f~~.·~:.n~~~~~~~~·:~oaa beeauu lie wanted to na where Bpnu atood and B,-rnu ni&l. that thh h an ablolute IIUit, and ao did Pl'flaldent Tr'\Ole.n . There wu no quution about it - it b&cl to go through and lr thla didn't go through it would be terrible. Brrnu uld ha wu TU'J'I:.phatlo on 8nttonWood1.
HI.D.D.egu at no tilu gne MIll¥ indication 11 to whether be wanted .. to 1tq, but tYerytbll\8 I augguted that he p111 aloogtoTruaanhltgrucJwlth.
Later on, Due Karr wu working the trdn fro• one COll-
h!~~:!t t:n 'h:!~~:• t~f !it:s:~:, t;h~::e 1!D t~: ;~~~~t1.!. ~h~~~~~~~:, 0:! ~~·:~:!A. "J.Ph!~: ::;:r 1!,!:e,~~:•:11~t~:n {h!;1~htn-r;!~' .~:e,:i!;e~o·!~t t::r;h:;a .~: ::!:~.:::~~· So I u1c1, -wan, what ' a going on'l'"
tt ra~rr !~~!~t ~:· t:~h!t, ~~1t.:~~ t~"hl::,:::t h~h!:O he thoug~t I trfea to quit. He atarted the oonnrutlon off ~e ·~;:~t~n/ t~":o t~}!t :f1:"~"! !!~ :: !n;•~d~i~~1;:n uead ::al!~ !~i·th!'a:;it~. c.!! ~1.!~~1!0ti!t~!.!;f' ~'!!tr,u
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"Wdl, if th•T hlliUI to ••tth it, I juet would rulp.•
Th.n thh h wh&t he nid ·it ueu that Paul Porter
~.r:~~~!:'~ ~::~t:!:~·a.;.:rt~•ifda~: ~ ~:ki!,':!~tnot Y&lbet. I eou.ldn't ~u{te gath.r whether the conurutlou
:E:~:i ~::7:}~=:::~~M!f~:{r!~t~!~f~:r!C;a:r,•can. !or Vin1on rt.hu a doubt in ~aind about Vinton btetllll
~:~~:~:I:'~t 1:~: i~·~~~~:i::! J!~:~i· :!::~:S:!l~:i; the7 were gofng to keep 111. iho in ~h gouip wu the tt.e~t !~t t~7o'f~o ·~. t~.~~::r. .l~ t:~~{ ::'!~~t ~i~h~~l::!.r to do. !• Coreoran alto h alud up 1n tbh IOIM'II'here. larr wUl'II'JIUre ofhh faeh. iaont;at other reuo11twb7
!:~I ::n!:~ !:t':~ :i~ !~,:-wb!:, ~~= !t:!a! ~:"the p;:::lal quutlon. Thue h nothing to indicate in alll" • llhow he tt-.nde on thh.
l.ahr 011 1 SUI ROII!Ultl\ c .... iD and ha wu 'UI'JIIIIeb down iD the cluap1 u be aht71 it wbtn be l1 worried about hiault,
!:l::~:~:!!l~;:~~t!: ~~: ~~=~:1r~~~k::~~!):~·~::nd ~~~:~~~ut :!r::~di::t':,t::r~.!: ~~.:•:!;!7IFl:!!c~et it IUniehr ialurope, and h• point1d 011t tb1t it wu ill th• Pruident'tltthr tbet be 1houlddo thl1. Ht nld that tht P'inanct Kinilhr• didn ' t want to tdk to hia abo11t Phan S, end thet Sir Johlllnderson wo11ld onl7 telk •bo11t tlle wuther. The way I interpreted it it that thnt Finance Klnhhr• didn't want to dilo11u !inanch.l e!feir• with Honnaa~~. I ukd bia
!!P~,:~u~,.;·:n~ 1!o:i~0~!· r~ .:: ::~d ~~t\~'w:u!:~.::;o 7s•t
i~~k. 'PG:o::~.~1:!\o ::::n::~ f!~~ !:.r·~c• 1b: ~~~ .. juet blllli eupiclout, but I think h• h looking r.h::i to hh fllturt h w prr.ctlc. and h t17l11g to ar.k• CORlltctlou .
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•nar:~u= n~di~n!.!n!!i:'~:f ~:!nJ~.:tg,!~·~i:ttt!!.,. ~t~ th:~1::~t~! ~~!ide!~ ~~·.~=t:a!e~r~d~0~:~1~e~:7• ~~·G:~~1H~Pkfn!~' a~!~::n t:n: !~~~te;h:~ ~:~:• tb:i;:;!r. the P~:!~d!:t t!•:1;:1!n;ih~~~:!ar:;::~t!!:. ~~i~:~!u~~t He n.id that often the Prnidant didn't know the eonhnh of thedocu.nthedgned .
RoniiiUll h&dn't the !&l.ntnt idu • hat 81.ruch h&d done although he c ..,.e btclr. on the plane with hla. He eald that
!~~~h.::· a~!3 =~ ~·~:t if~~ohrir !!ir:a ~d .~:r.tacl auting of the C&hlnet !or Ban~ch. Rcu11111.11 1dd all he got wutobeinvitedonenight!or tupper . Hewudetinitel.r ju.loue of Baruch, but he didn't know whet Baruch hd done,
hill .~.~·~k~:d a::. t:t~h ~r:i~.:i !~ ~!~~~ a~~:n~::~.f~.!fi!. I aho told hi11 what rq Joan had nid. She add, •oaddJ,
~f:J;:~t!h::::~~ 'f;:t!~~ DS~· ifi~: ~~:~.:!;~:~o~:!~::r ror227eeu tor nothing.•
Eddie eaidhe thought111poeition 1hould be one elong the linn of ao1111thing like KJ::e. Roounlt uid that she wlllhd to ::~te o}h:.i~i:1::! :a.;hjor'i:~h!~ :~!~a~~!t •¥o:~~~i
::~:::~ !~~~t~!;~t oif:~~:;~;r:;::H ~: tHj~~o ~~~-to Then Eddie to!d ae of 1 'flf"J interuting connrution he had. He wae •in"fited onr to aee Go"fernor 0.••7 1nd Vandenberg
~i ~~eh:t:iEt~!:J:!~f~~:~·!~: E::~i;~·::r~H ~r·P !~d~!~ tl:: ii;!ib:tn!~t ~~h:~i:r:: :f~~~ g:~ '¥o!!~~~·:~t to 1tq indefinitelr because I had been here eo long, but the7
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!dUe .. u tbd 1111 tiM I Wal1td to Ill hi• or to set hh opinion on a111thlng I thould juat ull hi•.
I told hia about tbh propoud .. ,uq: with Jturr-r, uul be thoucbt tb.t • •• 1 cr .. t al.thl:e. B• .. u that I br.ew how tutiarrfoiiDdoutaboutalltheuother .. •tiqt, udtlut
:~:~-~ !~!,.,~"!! !'~ft:u!11 t~:~k a:.~:~ i~a ~:Ok u ddlllltd7 acldud•110t to putlolpatelll it for the ti• ~~~!'tb~~·:!a1~~Jt~hou.ld ht lt so for tan dtJI or .o,
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H,J.t .JR: I u.w th~ President • little &fter nine-
!~i:~he~11!e~~)~ed 11~ 1 : t:r~:~Y c:f1f~~ 8 m:e~~ ~ 1S:~~: l~~; , " andlsald , "Befor eyouwerePresidentyouealledme Henry . I wish you woul d ~ootinue to do that . " ·He nld he would like to.
He told me that the even in g of the Pruident' a death
i:' n~!e ~~r:; !~fr~o~la~e~~~ ~!.~i~.~;:r tfo;:u t~~~~F lllhundeutandme , u a citlun I would like to uy thet I think you have done extremely nil in the f i rat nek . " ile said, "I han had all the bre.tka . " I nid, "I don ' t kno11howyou liketowork,but100uldyouliketoread thh1M1110?" He u idheJ."ould . He rnd it &nd aaidhe
::u;~~~~i~io!~. h I k:~~e~one~e ·~:at r!~d !;X a!:g~:m:.~:e and he said he had . He wu pleued .
that ~e~.hSo~~'h!~ ~~::if~ t:d~ ~~~hi; =~tit' .. ~:n~tid clear in b.h raind what Soong w!lllted . So I uid it •n
: ~~!~t~~;s~~::tt:~d I 0fe~~ei~ 1 ~~:uUk:e t!:! T~:~:~: Wal
!:r:! ~~::I!~{~:: ~:~!a ~1'i.~::~~: ·:::~~~~t::~t ~~~~~: io -~~~ t ~e ~!•:r!:g~~ ii• :p •:;.t: !:1~.~~n:~u!~d ~~~e c::. til'!ll.editthereagain .
Going back to the section on taxu, I said, "You
~:~o!~fb!i1;;~ 1:n~e;'~.!~t!1~~dt i i•~!!r •:,r:h =,red :!~::: · t:n~r~~:~r~:~·:a rb:1:,~r!:;~:ilc!~i; !:id~ "I u.ytb.t you are rnpondbh for tu:n."
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At taru tht ••o on Great Brltdo h cooc.rntd,
~:.:·~~ !!t::• .. ~1·D~~!u t:~~~~~!:~:~.~.;:tt 1 t:.1:~·1No, !.~~:;: ~:;~~~~c!::::~ion~1~!~ iu:!n:o d~~f~fo!~•;• 11ill have them on a upar i.te memo . " He add, "Tbtt will be Cine . " 1 told himtllat Phnnwu colllngon r and I 'IIOuld keep hia io!ormed .
'lobeo he C&M to ll.adeo ht uid 1t wu all right to f:a::·~·..":~! :~o:!.!:~~.he mtdt no com:~8Jit, and tbo~o~t
'lihenhenme tothef11tureo!Lenil - Lnaeheuid he would like to have a memo fl'Om me with recouendation1 .
And jullt aakt a note that lira. JQot~ 1h011ld to over ~~~t t~:f•;..:d t:h~/~~p~~ ;:~!o: ':do~1:h:h:~o~!d r.
ii~~~~t. Sh:0.i~i11 r!~dt 1~ 1 o!~~:11~d 1~!~:~~~~ f: ~: ~· · IOIIItbody todo aom.tthing ,eht • houlddirectittothe rightpereon.
I uid I•nworrhd about thew11 thinganregoing wlthragardtoG.f'Q.tJlreparatlont .
He uid, "llitll , this is confidential thtt I hue •topped Lubin !rom going. I don't think he he blg enoughstn . • S11 I nld , "I agrn, lltho11gh hil heert h ln the right pltct . "
io~· Jh:r::~~:=::~:l.f~~ . bu~. ~.i ••• ·:~~d~~~lp;:~!~:~ · t add, "Pint Baruch?"
Htuld, "Pio,notBarllch ."
1561
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S.cre~1~~!~a!htl b!fn~~~~~~~!v!•!!.!;t~in~11 th:e:~~ f~ ~f · ~:;.~ ~~!te! 1~~1r:u I t:a!1~~c~f:~~~d~~~~~o a~·i~~~~.:~:r~ because hed1daucha goodjob, andletDresoherkncwth.&t itwuarequutotmine . "
He said that 'o far u the re st of Secret Ser vice wu concerned , hewouldhne it thewe.:rith .
I n.id I thought it wu important that the W'hlte Houu Secret Serdcedetallahouldbe tledlncloulttofloeuury, becauu when he tral'tltd eround the country "' had to put the whole Secret Service •t hit dhpon.l, ud that I Celt ruoonslble!orhhlife. So he add tome, "You are ruPondbh !or the Pruident'e lite . You can condder yourself so . "
{ .. • Rt.ybu~ i11:.~a~!~~i~~~~~·;~~~ ~=~~~~~~~t!;·.:u~ s.m He said , ~He is doing tine . • Rayburn eald, •r told
Truman, ' Don t let them box you in a cor ner. They think
h:u.~~:.~o~, c~:~:· d!0:~:~~~~~a i!v:~~·fi~: ~~bi~~d that he wu liberal , •
Buain!!s 1il~~e:~;1C:.~~~~~ t~l.1~~i~~t t~: !:dt~:fk!~ !~~ t
fboettonWooda !011r or !iva t illlea and then told llalbee privately that he, .Udrich , would like to sit down with Stettiniua and me and dheuas Br atton Woods .
I told Wallace 12hatolhad been happening, and about .llr ieh ' a 11.ttitude with r eeard to the suit and hil branch in P&rh , and Iperaonall;rdldn ' t teel like aitHngdown with him at this time . I said I would like to wait a littlebi t, andhe11.greed.
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~ut:&~~:!~~tt::~t!j;!:~~~:~t~oa t.b&l1'!.LLld..lt1 ot o11r banltlo,g IJihawU.b ~ort•t&r.atteri!li •·
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lq tu atatt h Rrldq on hdtl'l.l t.u rnhloru far thtli'I.Mltloo&:1dpatt.lr ptr1 a4. Thla-.orkhprogr&nlno:
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}:l:;o~~[=~·~ "ln~~~.~~~R.:~~~ r~~io~~116i':.:~~111 N ina prt~&nd tar t.b& .lobt c-itt .. to &ut..l.t to the HOWII and S.&b tU. O~tt&U 0 OontainlQi tu. I'IOO .. n4a• t1on1 for the h.terla pulod bet .. .n V•ll: O.rand the .nd of the war,
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l"&t.rtoUl'r.ntly&na:IOit41.n~u:t&nA1Yautlon-widt drln agalnat t..x nulon1 ooaneotK with Ultpl bla.olr.
;;~:!Jr.":~!::' ttl~~=-=;.~~u:!!-!r:~!~:d'on uabllo~oaabbullw1thpr1otoalllnguouu&pa.ldb IO•oalled "ald.& -.onar" Olll'l't!li!Jo
FOREIOti riSCAL AlfD )I)J(Ef!RJ MiTTERS
Cb.iu lhlle in thh OOW1tl'1o Dr. T, V. S00 0 with .. to die- ,_11 ou .. -.n.,v tlll&.llchlprobl- .. aoolatedwf'thollr-.l.lital7 ·'-'" .• oparatlon.e bCl:l.luudtb.t"nrtlnll&Uon th&r&. I aa 11"-••lllli!IIJOII&_rand_ontheChbluaduiJ'atoobtal.n ·
~r~~tl,:U~1:f~~~ :!~J:; t:-:ill't:r,~·.b;~~1~! .. •tt.r&utoonupoulblt .
~ ThtTrt&t.W')' rtpnunhtlYtln IPndonhaa toldu t hd
~naA~:~:~~~ ~!~~~!,!tt!~~:~!ti•:!!f:taooa to tha \Jnltad llngdoa.
Slno1Lht !lrltl.lb arta:~re-.orrhdabout tbelrpo1twar lnt.rnatJ.onal. nna.nobl politlon Ulan &bolt anr otb•r 11111-lb::~ f.~~~ JOU will -.nt to talr.• 10:u tlu to go onr
l!:!!!!! 'I• han b .. n •cl.Tl"d that th• frellllh fln&~~o• Ml.nhhr,
-.ho will ~ortlJ ~ ln 'fjuhllliton, wlabu to dhou" th1 !lnaMhl ddt o! t h1lr noonltl'\lotlon pi'Obha.
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_, _ 1565
!!!!..!.!! . The Knh'-11 i'1nanot .W.nJ.tttr baa ••ked whathu .. with f J, thu to oootlu~~e tht11' tt.abllh&tlon aaretM!lt w1tb WI.
~ !ha Cubi.D.• han uhd 11htth .. •• wlalr. to ntu4 0\U' cold
1&11 agN .. «t!or anothe r tour ,....ra.
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'tb.tlndlanGo'far-thatraquuttdth&twtl.Dd-hau th- 1.11 t.441tlont.l 210 ai.Won ounou of tllnr. 1 t ha'ft
;!nfl~,"f:':!.trt: :!ti:In~!U:"~~t •• l•l'p •
b!!l A.tllh ill tkUt.O Statu
~pu'r ~:!~':·, c;:!~:!.1;,:o~~~P:!t ~:po~:i., o! all g,r.A ~J~d .la.pe.aatt u11t.a lD tb.lt oo11.11t1'7 . l 't wilh abortl7 to pr11tnt jolP.t rtoo-.nUUont to ;rou and tht COQCI"tll o
C..r.n !.a11t.a ln Other Cowr.trha
!btl Tnatloli'J h aiUiou tht.t tht 10-oalltd S&/a lla'f'en
f:<'!th:,r!~~!!:111J.ii\,U::!~_:l~ ;~frr!Wiu~•f: ~~ ~:n:h.~";.:; ~1::t!:- ~:.~ .. ~t~. :::t~ :•:!:;~!::n~U::r:r~:~':!~ 1t th•r "" taw111 111th
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Tha Tr~lli'J il work1JII tlth Stat.a, War, lfUJ and 7U ::O~~~~~I:! ~J~~.!"-:~~~"! ;..o:=:;1!i ~!:f.,!" 0~ooord-l&U'ob 23. Tht11 •tt.ra u. rd.at.-1 to tllt lutr~U~tlOD.I -.J.oh 1.1'1 no. Mi.Jii drattltli for tbe .barloan -u.r ot tb.o Roporatlon.
;::!'!~:11inn~~.:l !~1~:·.::k'~:! ~!o~!;;r!:~:;: :i ~~r-tunit7 to toU: with ;rou ~bout tb•,
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and telk to tb••·
Jln:ioo-----orliiPrelident nid ltwu dl right togo &hu.d.
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:i~:i~r s~a;;~:~:!:::t~:~;::~~H~~~. ::;!:; arenot&:Oilll&n;J.OI'I thanluaundiqU~;Japecld adYlnr• to Nprtnnt•.•
1570
J.pril27,1945
I u w the President of the United Statea , and told hia :~du!x!~~:n!~f~::~m c:~it::., ·~~h "i!t c~:~ t~~e t~f •;:., hi a, Pruident'a. I aald that I thought thh thing should be
~:g~~:d;z~~·a:~dt!it'f~e!: :~!~t~i _:: 1:~1d he would like
!hen I add, •!izo. President, when I sal! the President the night before he died , I tdked to hiu about two thing•; one wn for ae to get out a fol"lll of textbook which "ould ex·
~~!~ia;o.~:r~:~!c: ~:~f!ea:!ifa~~: ~:rf:n!::~h~~age~:r ~~~~~~ • cjn~!1te~~~~~~ ~:~P!f . ;he~: :~~~a ·~:i' :an
;L?x:~r~~:: · :~:idf~;::~!~!~:L !~~~t i!~~i ~;~~=~ ir!:Hnit. • Iu~t~ ~!t ~~r. "b!!.~:t I 11do:?~~:.;~"~r .:b:.,~!;nt r~.~:a:~~ :~=~~~~0~.,d'o~11hittb:~ :!'.!!"!e~·~e~i~t!1~:f ~~ ~:!t. me to do it. 1 told bia that wn the princip•l thing I had gonetoaeeXr.Rooaeultebo\lt.
Then I told hiu th•t the other thing I talked to President ~~oEi::~o!~~~\:a• t::~1igt~~::;;i ~h3~.:· ."~!~~k!~ a~!1 "'"
~~FJ. ~:!:~f ~!:;f~~:::i !~d {!~i~:::::;t!f~~!oo~1:~~:~;~~Then !.:·~:~t "!:l!;a!hc~::l!e~!;~~. I f:dRo~:ri"K:~h;~. R:;::"~:lt uid,"Tbat'awonderflll ." HetoldmetbathejllstnadeTery i~c~r!:1t;;;i!"~~ t~~!u~~.~~·o:;~r~e~~1!h~~t a:: ~i:!a!0 a:!arl can do it .• He said, "Thet'a wonderflll . I think that'• fine."
_, _ 1571
Then I went on and t r ied to aell hill Tad Guble ' a War
!:d\f~:~:~d !r::~~ ~~·!.~:·! ~:;!~~ :~eht:;' an~dt~~: ::Y1 ~~;d b:r -~~t \l~ ' ha~: b!!~ · o:~h! ~:di~\~~'!R.~~odi !:!1~ don ' t
m~ t~~ =~td~t~:~~~~· :~~rtds;r:~~:~:~r ~~=::!:~five little difficulty ulllng 1t to Preddent Rooaneit th<t firat tiu he ~~~ade a epneb on. War Bon.Cia , but I ehowed hia a picture
~;r"B~~do~.~~~:in.::1~:f :ill nr:~ th:n~~.:~d!:t . ~ .. ;r:!.: ~=·~!!~:! ~o 'i~1Jh!~o~t h~. as H:U~~i~ !~1!o~ ~ t tkn~·~h:~~er I should go on the elr ao often . ~
Thenltoldhlll.)(r,pl evenwt.ntftdtoeJtendllllln\'it&tion to me to co.ma to Parh th<! end oflla;y as a ay:.bol of good will.
~h:i 1 ~1!~t ~d ~~!'~h! :~::!:•:!n~:d'!::l tH:'!,fd:nlll t~hf~k at !}0~• th~n~:~itl!::;. ld!';:n/f:i~8 I ,:!:•;!uh~:.~o~ i.d th!id, ~g::r!~i'1~;er Hhe ~;• b:u:~ri;~ek deohiona thet aolletill\e& I
~r u:: !:~~i~Y!rt~;:u~.u~e r:~tk~~ .:!t~o~:u~; ~~~I -~~~d, me today and I, therehre, wu aore &t eue with bh11.
The Pru ident n.id that he wanted ta uk rq advice on &matte r and he only wanted to do it i1' it wu ethical and moral. He n.id , "I han alattar whiehyou nntme about the tndeductione!rom~tqaalar;y. Iunderetandthat thePrea1dent
~o!:~tt~·~: ~t . tayH: !!id~n·~1ha!:1!~~~ein t~e 1!:~~:U~xcept rq nlary, and what I want you to adThe me on ia whether it would be ethical and proper for me to deduct the upenn~ of running the White Houaa u an n:penu , and then p&J the tn on
!~:rr:~.;:~:~ ~h!t r:~ t~~~~ t~~t:•Ho~s~:i~::·~:~t~'s2~5& ~~dn~~:ar~ b!~~i ~~J:i i~~! 1f~n!p !l~:n~\~~;i/~~!; ~;!: andiwillgiveyouthe eorreotandet hiealanswer whether
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you like it or not," and he nid , "I only want the ethical and correct answer." I nid, "I ani so rry. I didn't mean it that way." He said , "I want todo"lfnat h right ."
1572
Then the Comm.ittee walked in, and Grew mumbhd something
~r:;~o=h~h~~~~~a ~~·~~~! !!n~0 ~~:~~·~~~·~~~fa~ !h~~~d r~~~lity o! JUking a little introductory speech and then turned the 11.atter over to Clayton. Cllyton presented the thing vary fonaally, and he &aid, "This document 18 baud on President Roosevelt'• memorandlllll of Jh,.rcb 23rd, and MeCloy nld, "Tn,
~.~·;:.~t 1 ~0 ~:~: ~r,·:~~~~n~;" n~~: ~~o~~e:n~.!~1 : :n~.:: trorda ainca I bacftllle Prn dent, and I 1111 ready to read another
~~~!~~\:o~:·a:~~ :·~A ~~ emamg~i~~ ~~c~a~dt!~:~·:o~d ~11 ' it.• Thenlpointadouttohimthatithadjuatgoneto the Chide of Staff , and he t~ould want to hear frl)lll them, and he add, "Yes . "
J.fter I left the Pruident , I met Le&ey in the hall and I told him we had unt thh to the Chiefs of Staff . He didn't seem to lmo• anything about it, but he said he thought the Chief a of Staff should stop fuuingwith thia kind of
i~u~;~:a!n~h~he;e~hl)~~~nfo t~h:a;~b~ ;~dt~~! ~hi:i:•!~n Staff should pay attantion to the wer .
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::~kh! ~~~~~7' ~:h:r:!tin ~:t c::1:,~'f:.ii;' obl~;!hone to •eet. He wu 1'1r'1 pluud .
Then I told ht. about hning Mt with Pauhr, wd
t;!~~:!:!:!L!:~~:;;! i':!!~ h:~l~i!o ,:!!rr;f~thiaHt
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1580
I uw the Prnldent thh aornlng, f.nd told hla l'&rballr ib~~~d t:laa;::~~d:!e r:~r~~~:~~:;1~e':!:~~x~!~t~u;::t::~·· borrowing progr .. , ud that I thought there ehould be eoaebodJ be could look to ud who would be reaponsi ble fo r the whole thiq. I edd, •Mr. RoouYelt ueed to like to do dl thou ~:~:=:et~:·;!~r~~1!n t~h1;r::!!e:!n~~!t a!o~~uf1~!\u too tired to look at it. I u1d, "I bal'e worked out eo .. th1ng ilk! ~h:fh~: ud,..!~r·~:h.:Le~ :1t"':H~; 1~ •::tg1::e~~~~ !:r~~ol~ ~ !:t h:oi!i1 t:':h0:0
1 t•~! hi.~~ ·~ ~fr:!1~{, ·~::~t ~.,.;~~eH~~o~d"'S.Uh~ "'H:",:!::gt!n~tk:t~h! ~~!! ~dhh! no aaid thet be wuted to pin the reaponllbllltJ on one peraon. ·
I then told bia I wu going ewer Thunder , 1! 1 t wu dl ng:!ui~~.h!ii !rJ~'~!r~-=l~:ht! !O::kt: ~bt:t:h~d be uid, "Brall~ana.•
Before goi:f in, I spoke to IU.tt Connellr, and uked hla
~i~:!h~:~t~:.C~~e~:f~:!!g~:~:cl!:~:~;t:!t:t.h~~!~i~~:: ~~d .::pr:::~t:!t t~: ::tt!:f lgsf n~f~lie ~h:•I!e~:!n I p!~:~rt ::~1 ti::u::a ~:!r .!!~e 0!~o:~~oci!1::ra~~I t!ih t!ifck':e pin into thea.• I uid, "You bne to protect u on thle," ;:~ :o!'~!~;!.i~~!· :ndn~e b:ai~;t:I 1.~::thh? a::~dbe;~e!h~~an rou do.• I add, I bellne that, too.•
Tbenlgotontothe_Plan!orGel'li&Df,andluld,"MJo. Prnldent, I ru.Use rou don't want 1111 to publhh this thing,
n:~~{~:~::~tr~:~;::=i:r~; tt~~;;~::!:r:i~ -~a:~~: :!n !~itii~~· t:n~!.~~ 11H!u!a~~~ ~ ~!~'g:~ ~~·.::q:;.u!o~re Chvrehlll, ll!ld when I do I want all the b•rgaining powerall the oarde in-, hand, and the plan on Gel'U.D1 hone of thea. I don't WSilt to pler ~bud before I aee thea."
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the .~~1::!4dt:~.::~~!·!rr~~. an.!ab:h~~! th! ;.;r:::~nc :;.:tl~· · ~ ~:it •:jt;!t ttb:h~~;:~.~::t,~\1 ~tk!:~ 11!!!: ud h• uld, •tu, bJt.nd large, I .. for lt. • So I •aid, ..,,11, here 11 the part 011 agrlaultuN. I went onr the charh wi th ht., llild be wu ..... a when I 1howed hla thtt Gt!'UD1
;:• .!r:~te4:t f:~::~~:;,. o~o t!:.;•:!:;b=o~!:n~of:~ ~ ~· .. : He • u "fel'J m:do1n to b&n thh ohtpbr, and be n!.d he would rnd 1t ud atudy it.
Tbenltookuptbetnquutl.on,udlguehl..lllr .
t~:~:~ :~::rerk~~:h tn~~: -~itcr::· ::0
:::::::~:~~ he nld , •u ther. 11 no uductl.onlA nnnue, I p tor it. I don't wllilt llli.J red11etloa in ren1n11.• He repeated th&t a couph or u..,, andwu n17 podth'e ebout it. I told hla ebout Wf1 conYerution JUhriq with s .. bfbllMl and that Su didn't want e tax bill.
Then I add thtt I wanted to tdk to hia &bout aomethlng
~:::::~~~:~:!;:t~r~:!:::r~t!:!:l~~:;:dr:::~l~:~:::!~e I ben been frhn~ wltb thea, .nd ~utloulerl7et Bretton
~:~: . wbir~o~lt:r. t tb:t t~ ~~~b!~;ed b:r.rt:1~e;itt' ~II. "t:! beQi: of bit bud , ud th•t he11ight 'lll.ll.t to uae • on the Ruui1.11. eitu&tion. He edd, •rwilluu ell the tool• I 01.11. 1&7., bf.ndl on, but in tbia cue • whlob wu the onl7 tilll!l during the entire conhreDQI • I got the feeling be wu Jutt beittg pollteudhedidn't welco .. thttuggeatlon. !YU7thlng elae I brought up he . tbtorbed readll7 .
.. nte?t: !.~i:!~h::a ~e '!!~~ ~i: . !f ~· .!~. ':~ q;:t~::: :;.,. QOJDpl&lntt?• He nld, •No , if I h&d 10111!1 I would hne ginn thell.to,.ou when,.ou!iutc..,. in.•
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:-o!.1.ai~~=tel!!tf4::!~ . :-:.i~·:.~· g:~·!.:-:! !:~~!:~!n-tll.h aGr'llllDC or hi• to tell .. aqthiq:, but I ~t a ~~plth t .. llnc offr&llb.ut Ol'l hh part.
u th!n ll:!;e~::!~ i:C~a!tt I .:;st:.~~~ t!o:id' o~two~~a!~~klT
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GIRMRRY I'.RN GEJ MDRL fROM ~ER LRND
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J.lE!.WiUJIDiJ.II l:lR rilE PRESIDENT
Subjut: StRE!Wr,IENWG FEDElli li3C/.L COO~tOLS
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o.!m"I:;::~ t!£1'U::!!'~!t~-:! !:.:~tenalon or thh
to b.!ii:.lt:!;:O~l1~~N.!dt~o~"':~~t~ng~Fr!!:r(t;:,~~ ~:~~t;~r F;g;:.,_lllf.o~· ~:!:~!·~-~~~:;u !loll.l.lni Agenoy, -ad tbl FM.ral O.poti t Intwoanot C~;~rporation.
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tJPu~;a ~1i~ ~~i!~·:-':~~~~ ;-.;:a-f.£t!r.~~ure• •~ttod to U.. Cc.li"U f'roal tbe thllllpolnt or a lmi! Lid !boll proc,ru.
t bl N00-1141t1on ! 01' MOo.pliahlnt u.·-uarr Uzree o! 1Ate£n.t10D 1A thio •U. '"' o! -k, 11blle t.l41.a.c to • ld!WI~e~~ U.. dht!Mbe.nN o! nhti"' Ol'ianbational. ll.Ma, oontupl.ttettbt ! ollowiJl&l
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r;~tC~ti:·~ ~;no.:a c~i~~~~·c~~!tu. ~:=·· Fl.nt.nae, (7) Ca.-itt .. on Public WorD F1nuoe, (s) Committee on. the: Federal Blallget .
of • !:--~::r!tlf i:p,~ ,tn.:r~El!:!t:f:' ~'ti:~:i.-:r ~1~:!.!:fl:o t=~~ t~~k' ot11~ed:l"~~fn::!n:'i~ti:: would f all, Illutrat ln of U.. operating praotloe oont.aplated h thiu boh of the nbo-.ltteea woW.d ••t o:LOI a wee~
§!o=.;;•:ro~!Fa~~~ ~-~·:~•:J~.':t.~ul~b. the Seoretur of tD.. TnuW"y' s t op ooaltt.e .t two . .. k b.tunh, rhl lll:ll pattu n would be f ollow.d with u.oh of t hl ot hlr au.b· oOIAltteea f rom which would oo::at a repnaentatin t o Mne
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top ~tto;-:~'fi.:~ t.~ r=-~urr.:o:~r ~~;r::;t t!~u ::~t:~t.~~~:r~;~!it~;:~~:t·~t~~ ~~l::Miff;· · :iJrr-~l~J:'!pt.a:,.:i~~ ~l~o~~:!~o~~ ~aor,.::!~/·uld ~:.q::g ~ !! ~=igf~t::P!;in orwhi~~Tt~: :i J:~r:; indirec t oontrollio.e i.nterut .
rbe Seontery of th8 i'N U 1ll"y would Jl8ed t o !an a e:u.l.l
l!:!~!.l:r,r~•!:;!!b!: ~· .::;;r.;~.~~u~.·! ~~rit.:.~rat!:i:·t~•!n;o o~·~ "!!~.ttr~!:nf!f~r~ ~o~·=l~:~.~t ~.~~~:!ol!,!. tlwM act Yit u i n relation to t lw
to • ~~~i!:~!~m~. !r~~"1~::!~~i!t F~~:d!r;i c:r~;~~~!' f ho el and PDnetery operetlon1 , l e1 not Wl!:lindful of the
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,-aaUa& at 71)0 P,W, ..,._,, WIMa U h aapeetM to Mop• a report to -.. Ina• •a.r• u4 ••••• a-1 tua..,.U;a .. utart ..... o-tuaa. fb.liNpart •111 4 .. 1 •U.b tu -••r.• to be al'haUn tor tbe paJ'tod. betWOOII tbl ... ot U. .. ...._ ... r ..0 tba ... Ot UlaJo,..a ....... 'I'IMNpOJ'liiDI-ro:::t, ':/:~!-;r:!:::;r .~~;,. ·::r::!·~=~~~-1\-llaltal'l'.
fM Jol11t c-J.Uaa -s ...... o, 110\ odr t.ll.a abo•• PlpOJ'l 'IN\ al" a ,.._....,Uo ll , .. , U.• azonaprotltatu:NrapaalMetteaUuJamaai'J'l, 19117, lt tJliHJ'IadlbetONlbat tiM,
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SPECIAL MEMORANDUM ON SUGGESTED TAX
CHANGES TO BE EFFECTIVE AM'ER THE END OF THE WAR IN EUROPE
"""-tto,_.,.tiortoltho JOINT COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL REVENUE
TAXATION
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1595
>GINT ~'(I I .. UTTH ON INTEUA~ U\' K!<UE TAXATION I'Qa
• 8P~I,I.L ME.NOIU.NDUM ON 8UGGCSTID TAl CH,tN(l£8
:.~~ Unc"nVI ,I.PTU TH. IND OP THI 'lUI IN
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Operator: llr , Connelly .
Mr. Matthe" Connelly: Hello .Good.,ornlng ,Mr. Secretary .
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Prealcl.ent Truman :
Gootl. morning . Here ' s my probl~m , and. at'ur you heerltyouceno1enldewheth erloughttatalk !~,!~; . President or vn~ ther yo1.1 can get me an
l've b eentrylngto getlntohlm everetneeyou e8lled, but he ' ~ had somebody wlth hlm.
All right . 'iell , now , I have a r eguhr oren cont'ereneeatl0 : 30. t.aetnl ght llnt'orme"the ?redcl.ent th e J oint Com!lllttee on Taxation me t lut night , nnol. I gave hl 'l\ a eooy or what they were go i ng to take up on te::o ee , 'lla.l t ~ r Geor g e beatthe gunnn<lgaveou ta etPtemen tknowlnghe >~U going to thh mee ttng at 7 o'clock laet night , lnwhlehh e ea !lle outrorereduetlon<>fte:r.e eln 19116 .
'llell , Bob Dou jlehton unbelievably <Utn 't kno~<ebout 1 t untll t hl ' morning , but he ' s eor~ &8 hell.
'i ee. 'llell , tbl e 1 ~ 1m,orta.n t. He ,lust brok e uu h er e now,ean l n'Jtyou througbtohlm.
Woulcl.you cl.o that?
Yee , eu r e , holcl.onRmlnute.
llello , hello , hereyouare, elr .
Ju ~ t a minut e .
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Ye t , )'n , Hem•,. .
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Mr.Prel1dent,I th1nkineell.e l1 ttleadvloe , You r e.,ember i told)'OUJ'Uter dayabout tile '"ntlng tMt
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And I gnerou t!ult little p....,phtet th u they were go i ng to eonddtr .
'that' erlght .
Vdl , Walter Geoge vent ahnd end about 5 o ' Dloclr. last night , lr.nowlng thlt meet1n:; wee go inG to Ullt pl aee , andgeveout<Rtementto thePreuQOllllng out f ortlarrductlonofta:tea t or 11<6 .
BcbDoughtonol.ldn 1t knowenyth1ngeboutlt , end l ~:;1 ~alk1 ng to hill thl e morning and he U eore u
·~ell , he hu a right tG be ,
Nov, l 1.1rged hl:o tod-11 to eome out withe ltAtement uylng thet ht!WIIO'I)pt>Ud to any reduot1on of U:ree, but h e hetltated end the)' et111 haven ' t =-ode a ror:ul announeement - thltCD11.11lttl'!e , youuet
So t!u~n he edd l .,,.,nder lf Predden t Tnlll4n would care toeendforGeoraeandOoughton , and'Joulbly royeelt , andlronthllthl1'160u t,yeueee .--belnga he11tant to takellelter Oeorgeon . l dld take the 11bertyot Vlllng Bob Doughton thatyeu were ebeolutelyoppoudtoanyred.uetlon .
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~:~:~:i!~!!:sff~~::;~f~~~~"~~~~~S!i!:~:!~ . 'tell , that ' e dl rlghtwlth me, but! thought- I ' ve gets r eguhrprena t 101}0.
Tha t ' lallrlght .
And lt lt h dl right ltithyou , what I • •• sotng tOU7VIIIquotetro.IIIIIIJ'Illnualre,ortavery•'lort 1tat•.11ent lnw:tlchl uld "w1rtl1U ta:r"llll.llt contlnu t' 11 long •• ""I' con~l tlont re<plred" .
Th.c'tallrlght.
Andttandonthat .
Tha t ' tt.ll r lght. Ano:l.thenleeltyoucftn 1 t f;• t thUe telloWI tog ether. I o:l.ldn ' t know - I dl~n ' t thlnk'lalhrGeorgevculddo th..t .
Vell ,lt' t unheardot.
I know lt l e , 'ldl , IU what you c1ndo and th"" talk to•etoaem:>re .
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K.ayl6 , 1945
I n• the President this morning , en~ I apoke to him firat about the tax situation . I told blJD. ho• pleased I wu •ith •hat he had done yesterday, and he aaid he hadgothniiiJ' letter and
:r~~p:~!~!~!~o:~;:~~:t ~;:~.~!t~:!i~!:~1~:~:~r::~r~!~~~:!ir~ !; that ih:~. Ig~~~;e:o h;~y t~ . h~t:~ito:IK~~:~:ta~~d t~ .. iokt~:~~e ~~~~r~~a~h~~a~,.!~:r rf~h~~~~~gt~!~•he h::rtg=r";~~~~~i ~ u;e no to Kilgore . • He nidthathehad readrqsecondinstallmenton Germany, but he ia waiting Wltil Eisenho•er h informed about
;~~~~r tr~~~l~:~ ~~ ~~t c~:d~ti~i.71 !~ ih:.r~b~~~~ t1. wo~id ·~:k:d itupdthbiJD. again on June h t, and he said that !'lould be fine,
I spoke to him about Pl even' s invitation for me to e0111.e to Fr&nee, andheneroed to have forgotten that I hadapokento him about it predously . He aeeroed quite Menebh torqgoing.
~n~1~! ~:U ih:~u!~uidn~e t:1f0 rl~h~~~ ~u:Is~n:,f~e t~:~r f would
!~!~:~:;:! :d:o~~:~~ t:!~=:~r::~~:~~:rri ;i~;~~: R;::~:~i j~~fdrf~~~:~o~~:r t~o~P~!· o~0:~~k: .. ! ia;~~~dtt! ::iid::,:~ll !ln. Korgenthau got back, end I •ould apeak to him about it agdn . He said the..t•u all right.
Then I showed him the proposed &illend~nt to the Bretton
~~:~s ~.t·~!~1~!id~ · ~!~ii~ ~C. •.,:~~!~n!~t~d~~!~~ ~~ri 1;~id~· "Well, th~ St&te DeptLrtment is raising en obJ ection to my being ehfl.! rm.an." Hesfl.!d,"Whyshouldn'tyoube ehairm.&.n?" Itold bim the story about ho• Chyton fl.nd .leheson had be en up to
~:~ ~h:;c~~~~n~p;n~:i~h.; 1 if a~0!u~:k!~~t t~~a s~:~t~:;:~:u~~~~ Bretton Woods •ould go to Foreign Relations, and that settled it n fflr fLI Spence we.a conc~rned . " He sfl.!d, •1s this going to hold up Bretton Woods because if it is I •ould leave th&t
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6~e!~~~d :~;~in~n!e~ ;~Fh:P~:;:tm: ~~:i~i:g ~:.~i~:·;o!~ that .
~~p~~~!. ~e. I ::i:~i~No:o~::~., h~~~ ~~~:r::t~~ !:o~t or ~~h~~ng 1litth fun over it."
He signed the letter on the refunding without uking Ul1 questions.
Iabowedbimtbe eardfromthelfuhingtonPoat,andtb._t seemed to interes t him. When I wu talking to Connell7 outside , he uld , "Well, we all know that George looks otter apeeid inhrnta . M I told the Prnident about how we had not been able t o get ltonCocaCoh , and he uld th e. t th .. tdidn't surprin him.
I then uked the President if he would like me to do aoa • ork on neinghowwe could cut the approprhtlona of the NaV)', andheuidheve ryde!lnitel7 •ould.
While I wu waiting to get in to sn t he President, I wu
! :~~:!:s:~!!~::r~~;~:~!if ~~;:E:~ ;:~::;::~~r~!~:i~E: tr~~!:~~~~: !:te~~h ~: ~~!!1:!~~ , R:,;~ 1t ew!!t:r~~ ~~rn;h~~:uU'"· behandledb7theTreuurJ',andwh._teverndid•ouldbeall
~~!h!~rt Hi ~:~~ , ~~ ~~!, ~~~~r!b:~!u~o~~! i:l~~r dr~~-he added
ifhr I left the President, I went in and talked to Mr .
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h t me have it.
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Mctlou 5 o! th11 .let 11 bnt~ authoru.a. ~Ua'-r u- ~ral di.Joutl<Jll et the Prta11.ct. to gin or re!IIN \lw appt'oftl, ooueat, •
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!t~~~t~"~i =~ti:!~::rr:~!;:!d~!1t*f!:~!!:f!~~: ·~? mlnutn ot tb. meetlng, &nd if there are anrln.kl lt will ooly happencnce,andldon ' tmeanmaybe!
Iah011td the Prnldent the htter !r011 Bob , and ru.d him the parh which I hedurked in red. He was nrymuch interested .
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~~ln~;~ !h~ld'r!~~~~·7:~0~bt!:t t~ ~!!d~~~~~·:!:'J:! • 1 et;ued . laald ,"Tou•houldhanaurJlmportantper.onn
!~~'!!"!~ld t~~k~~~~nb~in;0~p~1 .:~~~!n ~~~!!uid ~{~ 1;~d::n~:ende ~:;!~·~~0~1~ft,'":!/~~n c:~~ ~~in·~~ ~u O:d:!i~ !~~~:~~.up I ~!ld , =~~'be!1!he;n d!~ ' .~~ 1in t~he Cfl:!!!:•~o!:i!t~e •:;:~·~:~~~;,r~8 t~eid ' th<1 Ccanittu knowa more ebwt it then any 1118111ber , end he writu up the reports." I ~&id, "I think you ahould hen thet kind or a :r.an for the Cabinet", ud be egrud . Lf.t~;, .4.. .... ~ .4~ ,
I lndlcet.d that they ••nted me to handh lhla mathr1 or i/JV: !~i~~~ ~:::-~:'b;e~~!. h!hi:nt:da!0i!!~~~.!~ 1de~t!i~ : :!ddt~ ' f, ~· a.long theumelinu of the deehlonyoumadt in regard to the ld1'11oryCc.~~ittee on Bretton Woods otwhicb the Seeretary of
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"Mr. Thhe~'id!n~~1if ;~od~n ~t ::d;h~ ~~t~k ~:::!!~! 0~'mt! t!k!~ A He add , •Go ahead and tell me - how did I make a mistake?"
lo~;F~hi~k !~:n:I~i~~~!;~~!~r ~~1~~~~~~~ ~Rig1~~~ :~~~~h:~!o!~~~ foo~~·.h;thia,:kt~}~ ~~~~ b~~ ie!!td~''w.i~; ~ ~~l~klh:}!r~i"Cut Jackson e&id he wouldn't get any where before Chrfatmu at the earliest." The Presidant nid, •well, the Ruaehne r;ant to have a
!h!~1 B: dj~~~~~~~g~!~d ~~~~~hh!~:o~~f1~~iu!::" ~ t;~d ~o~~~~~:WP!!~son ~!it~~t 1 ;a~d~~.~~~t 'Iod~~·i ~ht~kch:e ,h~~la ~~~!it:~ · :xcn:a. • ;~~ ! ~~~~l~!~ti~itm!m~~!nJ:tb:~a:::i ie~ w~r~~!:• a~~~ ihf!~~ He said the.t would be all right . I said, nThere are going to be a lot of American soldiers who were prison er s in Ge~any caning back who are going to be pretty bitter . 250,000 soldi ers are
~:!n~t ~~~~ ~~~~ i~:;hh~d o~~e{h!~e,.~o;~~n!~ ~~i~f t!~~thl~g g:~ out ih!ii~ b~eth: 11ir:~~·:~ifhit: b~e~ ~ht~k1~; :t1~1 de.: th:oj~b ~! 1 c~~~~~~y ~o~U~:t ·~~! · t~k~~~~ b~~~f1~~~m o::r ~1~:~~rb~~!rn." ~~n ~~1!a~~a~o hdow~~ t~h;h::; ~h~P~:gi~a~e!a~ t t~ia .ri th~:t a:i~;t:f . " He said , nEven the Russian& want to give them e. trial."
I talked to hi::! about cotton for China, and I toldhl. ;n how slow everybodJ was, and how Leo Crowley was intereated mor e in hb co!llll!ibents to South America, etc. , and I uid tha t I finally hadgottenBobPe.tters onen t husiaatleaboutlt . He poundedthe
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~~l~i~~!t!~~~~ :!: t~~ t :i~!S~:ri~E~r~·;~:~ n:~~i:.~~~~~~; in to tte Pdutlne quu tion and a lot of ether Jeliilf quutlona . So he add, •well, I know there lre t hree dltfarant group• o1 Jewhh interut1 ll.lld nooe o! them au alike. Ibn ' een it on the Hill . "
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I ~foke to the Pruldtnt about Rob~rt W:urphy, lllld he uid he
~:! d::t!iO:d~!tt~ ~~kri~~~ih:~id•;:: ~:~~~·t:•:.~0rir~ with J.lurphy, but he said tbat with StettinlUI any he had not had a chance to tdktohllll .
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JU.T'I'ERS TO TiKE UP WITH THE PRESIDE!n'
1fadnnday llar23,1945
- 1. What did he do with the Treasur-y's organization plan?/
2. h he going to da &n¥thing about removing Robert !lfurphy? /
3 . lwanttohaverudyforhimsuggestionsonaa.vingJ upenaea in the Navy. Che.rh attached.
4 . DoesthePresidentwantchartsonirm,yandMa~ such n we did fGr N&.vy?
s. !o::P~i!: ~f~:r 8n::to;!d~:~d!~~ P~e:~!eb!1~:v~otton/ !~r!h~p ~:t~~~s~: h~!1n~~t d~~ .. a:~tb1~~:~r~~t~~~inm .
6 . War Refugee Boar-d - 2memorandaatt&ched . V
7, Special Tax Drive - memorand\llll a.ttaehed ,j
8. RallroadReti!'ementl.egish.tion.
- 9 . Bretton Wood s will be r eported out Thursday or Friday.
10 . Giannini.
11. Lend Lease with England
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it wa! :-U:h"~:ft~;at/:a:r!ii =~o~~oii ~h!!eit !~ddu have bun to e:et aca.e partlal information . Tour letter. "'!e~~i::e~h::U~e!:l~ ~e~~1!t::~n~i::e~n~~=~ription
o •umu~ . No inoOII!lng mdl is censored so you have nothing to worry about on that score .
TrUill&~ b:~a~::Y e::~;b'odge~u~\~!r tL~~~~~~es~~~ra!~t ?; death was such a terriflc calamity. J.ta{be he will de better ;~::t~'~¥l:u;!o~t~•t thought . He cerh nly 111m1 to t.v~
Rt~~Bi~h:tfle~!i:nu!"~?~:: oitt~~~~ !bea!nlsb~~'\~! ~=:!~~:nt ;:f:f !~w~owv:o~!~ta~nt~P~~~id •:e 1 ~h~:~n:i;~!s!! ~O:'if'!ning
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( io tu u tho ood ot tho m to E~opo to ooooomd,
i!c~1d1~f~~ui~rfo h:~~r!~1~~! i~: :~~~f~c~~:~ i~~ h:~e 1~un too occupied with our dut7 business out here .
The greatut hmedfatt help will be the additional air power which shouldn ' t be too long in cOII\lng .
There I .;: 1:n;~~~:l:~ ~~· h:~: f~r:~!1dfrf~~:if ~~t U:d!;: atand unless you have bun out her e. I hope the people realize that we still b&u 1 maJor war to fight out here .
On• o! the officers abO&rd gets the Kiplinger letter, and he {Uplinger) can't ucn to nit to recon1'ert . I find that I get angry 1nry time I read them beca111e he acts as ~~ ;:~ =~!n~io~aa.:1ir~ing to keep up production
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Gin my lon tolfot her and JOAn .
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1. At Qatbtt Pl'eddeat Rooa .... elt u4 hiM lllabt.r Chvtblll bdbll to ba'ft n .bel' loU C~ tt .. 11\ vp o .. lltlq tf U• S.ertt1.17 of tM '"''1117• Uaa•r S11ntt17 Stettlalut ..._ Kr. Cra.t., to ooulllt wl.tla tht BrUilb C-tttH 11t ~· hJ tiM J'lo!.i llbbtU' oa tbe ·:::·:~ .. l:r.~:::.-:~·-1 ~:::oi:! r.! 1;!r:~.:: ~1:!• ~~t~!i~!:t !~~~::;r~ ::"c:!i~~at of lapu.
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11.\lal~:; !:bi!!!\!f ;!~t.;~J-~!!!!:!ti!. t!i r:cru UAd.nttaJbfl uhe. The Brithh trnnrr h f""bl& :! {!i,!,~!t!{l~~ri~!!,!:.!!!:tl;n!-:oJ!~o ;h!tut l'ruld•t b1 our C.-l!ht.
lb.• tiM d.lllthUoa of the Co-ltttt, t lwrt b no uatral authorltaUn u oup wlth • h• the ilplthb '" lliou.e qta .. tlou wl.tb rupeot to LeJIIII.-L.a11 a.thn .
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t'lo art beglnnlnc to r;.t ruulte in tho 1peolal tu: drive wo lnaugu.rabd about alx wuka ago and to 'ltlioh I
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~!~r!~!!i,:•:!~:!. ~~~~~: ~~~!:fi;~,:::,~::~•nE:!1~ ~h. IJOIIt p romhing bada a re obtained !ro11 bantaotione inTOldns the u .. or lart. .. qu.antltlo' of eurnno1, p-.rtio\a.brl7 big bUb.
I h,an been !ollowiv._; tho ourront lnYutlcatlon 'flrJ olo .. l To lllld han looon literdl{ u.aaed at eor;w o! tho t~u
:i tif~~t;~n!r:'~!~!!~l'~~~1i 11!,.i:t"!t::~t !i' t~! !::.~~~ the ¥~~~r~it or~~. 11 u~h '!:~111~~.:~f~i:~':!r~~o!!~!dtJ!, Nh:d nenr pa{d any oxoln tu:u on the 'iondvo tu.re he l.ao been
!:!!!nf~~:l~:.~I:~kr:r~;i :r:r::i~n.~ !!?dok~~Ooowh!~dt!!::~c~:r~:~; .. :~~:i: ;:~~=~:~hi. ~i:!~=r~~ ~;:~:tt:::)l and (c ) th• oae• of th• o11nor o! • ol~.ain o! rutauranta in
~ir r::tl:!!:· i:·~=~h i(~:~~· i~·~t~ on~OOo ~n~:; ~-. group o! N•w Torlc bank:. - Uld thla in th• !ac• o! th• fact that h• b.u not n portoG taxabb inoDDII in uuu of $22, 000 in a.u;r or th• 1••n \I.P' to and inoludln,:; 19«.
dtuatio~~J1::~!!0~h:~ !:11 ~;~uo~~Ji~~:!~!d t~~r th• job "' ar• ealhd upon t o do . D.l rlnc the war it hal , or coura•, b•cn incr•ulll31J ditflcult to obtain quallrhd
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t:!!:a:!~: !~!o~;tt.-:ri,.i!:1:!1i:ob~!! ;h;~Jtti: ~ =~::~~ .. ~ ~::.:ag;t,:k~n~ ;b&~P:!P~!'J~nc:a:;:•r;.!: ~ u re~rde hlrhr.,: p:3b to do ento!'o-.nt work durin& the ~":i:~.!i::!nr:= nud ~t4:"t~P~:b!rlatlon be ine~uued b7
There h no nud to burden you with t he dett.ila of our ~r:!!:m~ :~P~~~~h:t:!~:!~:~t a;:!:t.t:J.!~o~h: :!,!!:!r tundt w1th which to tiUIIOI our tn!orcuwnt progrUI, I U7 han t o take the !:latter up with :you.
One other ~:~& tter oonneoted with our drln mar C. ot lDhrut t o ;you. Sou or our g01t helptul hada hne b"n
::;:~~:~u!~:tr, :f:oi:~r;!1!: i~:::r:;-;1 ~~=·r·!!th to unutual de pod h or •1 thdnwah o! Gv. th in the banlct n quutlop. . R.dllliiJ that the b&nb oonatltuh a nrit&blt tdnt or in!of'M.tion, •• &ttapttd a oont b or mort a go to t!!tot intorll&l arran~ntt with tha, llD.dt1' which tbt7 would rtp01't to Ul U11U1Ual CU1'rtD01 t1't11110t10111 CD th1 part of thtir cultOMrt. for wh&hnr r •••on1, th• banka ha.,. not ri:~~ ..:·:~d:;l~~D.~!O b=~~":irl:u~.U~O l~D lm, 18
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Your letters ef JJLDu&ry 12 , h145 , and lk!'ah .1.4 0
;r:~~ ~~q~~:t br~~ . r~~~~~r~3~z~·~~:·:.!~ ~~:-1 t 1 h Railroad Het l reiJ.ent Acts , tb.e Railroad Une•plOJ~~Ut Insurance Act , and subchapter 3 or cha~ter '<I of tb& Interna.l !tevenue Code; Mdforotherpur po"ll ee . •
The Tren.sury has conshtently h.vored the aap Lifieat ion and extension of the whole aocial s ecurity system. H. R. i::lti2 ex t c nr!~ and i:J.proves social ~ ccurity benefits feu• an i::tporhot group of
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It fee ls that t axpayers should not b11 r equired to deal rrith more thM one Federal agency in ta.x mat t ers Md should no t be subJ ected to e.n unneeeu ery cl.uplieation of audits , This position was expressed by the
·Treaaury i r.l':l38rrhenthe /Ul! l r oudUnemp1oy;aent Insurance Act 'Pfae under consideratior . ~ ~:'1(:~ then collectionoflnco;aetaxa t sourcehasbeeninatituted ,
I~~~e s~~e a~f:.i;~~~U!~8 o?0th~~~;~~:ii~~~f i~~~11~0~~~·~ ; , These pot entialities forsbpl ificationcmnotbe echi evedundcr the proposeddhi&ionofthe responsi billt;< for tax collection as regards th~ r ailroa.d industry .
TheTreasurydesireatocalJ. tothaattentionof the Colllill.itt ee a. ma tter of genenl i ;lportMce in connectionwitltthis!egid etion . SectionJ.2o! the
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Railroad li.etlrement Act and section 2{c) of the
::;~~~:: :::~l~~::t a!~:u:~~i !~~ ~=o:~~j.!~'io at\1 tu. The prnent bill would increau Clrtdn
~:~:r~!:PU:n~re~: ;~:~!;ht!h 0;;:!!d b~0 •:::1:t ~1::;1:~0~~ ~:·;~~~~:dp~~~!ft~~:·1:d 8~ei~:~·~h!hat tre&. tlllllnt aocordedtheaebenefits"ouldbegonrned
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There are &lso a n~ber o! ~dllllnhtrathe a.nd
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;~:!"-~h:nP~::.~~h:~;t:~ ~~ !~~l~~~f~~e;r t~'!:!t~~e• to the proposed 11.ethod of collection . Theu can be 11.0re •ppropriatdydee.ltw1th irlaup•rate , t .. chn1·
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D AY. 3llf&1 1945 Secretar1 Kargenth&.u
Kr . Gaatan
Pre al~::~·~~'l.!~:n~!~e t~~r P~:;!a r;:~:1!~~ ~;r .. t~· an the marning of 5 June but ther were cauntermanded
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wuhi:~~n T~:;nund:; ~~u~~!d:; ~~~!;drth:1~.!~d::u&l prhate car which will be attached ta same B & 0 train, eitheraregulartreinarmarellkel.Jane afthe militar1 t ralne . The car will take them br B & 0 and Kiuauri-Pt.cltie to KaD.ne Cit7 . The car will then be sent on to the Peei!ic Cout tor p<~ nibh uu in cue
:ip~i:~~~:bt: ~~:ih~~. c~~!U:~t· wiUh:a1: ~:: entiretripbyalr .
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~i:~~i!~~e !!~ ' J;~~e~~~;!~~.1fh!t S~~~:~.~::hl~~~n in New York, tout up the pr otection plans in San Franeheo and on Puget Sound . .l.nhehr will eooperatewlth)(errillinSanFrancieco ~ndl!cG:-ath With Ja:-rell in Seattle . .
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Ihad an appo intlllentwiththe Prn identthl,morningat : : ~:hb£;0~1~~~~/H!p~in!~ ue hir: until 10 : 10 becaun he got
annou~~: ~~:~ i~~nfn~:r~:~:n~0 ~~~=~ ::e n!~d: ~~d "h: ~:~~~d t~o aay somathlng about the veterana . So I said , "Ur . Prnldent ,
;:d"}1:u:;::t c~~!~dy:· ,:;dy!uhd\~,!~!~ :~~~~~d~~h;~~ •1::11, ~= ::~t piea~!d~"";~:nid t:ld·~~! j!!th~h.~' t~:n;~:;o!~i ::!, • bleb I onl,- got this IIOI'n lng b1 having Char lie Bell ride down with me . Nobod¥ hu ever explained It to ue before , but
:~~:v! ~;go : ~~:.!~:~d:d 0~!~~: · fo~5 t~e '~i:~~=d oi0 t~t:• ~:~~~t:~~h~o~h"i~! ~:dg!t h~r~ ~~fx}7' .h~h n1:· toT~i~e. men inside the Bureau. I told him that what I 111:1 •:t:hlnlng
!: ;lif':~~.l: r!~:t th! t~ !~d~~o~e~nd1~::t~ni~r~h~1ft ~~t ~~~ 3~!1 m:; :!!~ ~~rina~~!~!~~f ~e:n~· t~n~h!f P;: ,id:n~~e~~n-thlnk we are going to have aome trouble with W:eKellar.• He nid , "We will puthls feet ln the !l re at Cabinet today . Youbrlngitup . • ·•
of ui~:~ . 1 a;d1!l!~·.b:~~\·~e:~t~t~~ h:rak:dd t~h~~~ ~~!~~~it . ~0 us;.n!:~t rs l:ft h;~r~~;:t~~t t~o~~!~~Q t!o ~:~fn ~~h:p l~!te r :)pence .
hear ;~=~ io::~: : ~ · rpd:~;~·~~in~ ;~~· !r:n:w t 1io y~~.;·i~ ~~-
thatyouarePrealdent . • Hesaidhewouldliketohearit , and eo I said , •well , the talk er ound town is that you are going
!~e P~~ ~!~~t~~~uir o;!~ h:~: ' 1 ~ Fn ~i~d aik!~~l~0lik~~~~~~a1~u to you about hh sueceuo r .• He hesitated a minute and then he nid , "Well , I would llke to hear from you . • I uid , •t :~~ : tb~oi :~~~h:~ ;:~ 1~· t~!1ft~:f ;~:~! . P:!t~~~t ~~~~~o~;~:~ely underatand::-.e , ! can' t get llong 'll'ithhill . • I ul.d , •If the
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~~:r t~~~~~: a;~:dh~o~a7~~~~ -~~~e~tk~:y ~~u~:r~:!~ y~~ r:e a conniver , ~ and I said, •That's jus t what he h . I have kno\IIJ\ him ever since Far101. Credit days , and I also kno11 how when Harri son was Leader of the Senate , Byrne s used to run around
~o~:~~~ !Jd j~:~e d~!~t v~hln~:p~~~~d ~~r:a!~· ~ib~;~ B t~:~: Jus t because he hu gone on a trip toRuuie.doesn 't ~:~ake
~!~a:~s~~p:~t e~~e~~r~!g~hi~~a;f~e~2 lll~~;s t~:r! ~ • ma~~ the President kind ol' shook his head and said , •you don ' t kno'll' ho"· difficult the thing hu been for me . Everybody ar ound here that should knowanythingaboutforeign &!fairs h out ," end then he got excited and se.id, •t just put across all by ozyse lf the most wonderful t hing 'Ill thout any help fr-om Stettinlus . I just flnhhed talking to .He.rry Hopkins , snd
io W:c~~!p~i;J:~~s\:a:ait t~~ ~~~~~ ~:~~ ~~a~o \.~~vju~~e~o!~!e and I wouldn't ask hilll because I think I know what it h . Then he said , KThe Democratic Par ty feels that it is dangerous ,
~. ~u~ :~~~l~f :~~~~d ~~~p~~t t~h:~ · t~~/:;: ~i:~i:nt~~ :~~~eed :
;;~~S~~~~~~;t!~t~~rt~e r::id~tK~a:.m tjU~ :{~~;~~; t~: :i~~~tion . n
times T~~:~ 1y~~i~~u~~o~:hM~; ~~~~if:n~e-p~~in~~ve I s~~fn~e::rs.l ~~h!h!~ ~~8 t~!~i=~B~a~Oa~~~~ K COH:S S~i~~ !~a;l~~ ~:~ ~~~~~d to it . " I u.id , "In the meantime , couldn ' t you have some sort of e Kitchen Cabinet of the people whom you trus t, and {ou could have either breakfast , lunch or suppe r , and tell
b:e~ :~r~~n~0~~f ~~ · C¥ (~;s mt~~n~o~hi:~ ~r s~~~e~e~ d~;~. 1 ber~ didn't kne~w Just how to put it . ) I said, "Take m.y cue fe~r
;n~~~n~f · pe~~~~s~~h~~=\l:rm;~~~~ ~~e~ cl~~ks~~Y ~uio~ ~~I~anee ." I said , "While naturally I wouldn't tell them everything I kn()Wetleesti'II'e~Uldbelnepos itionsothatice~uldguide
~:~'Be~~~e~~;~p~e ~e!!~d{e~ "!~~t 11~~~~e~: ~~r·~;~~~g~~n~~w ~~e ~~;~ ' i: I s~~~~~~~:n~h;~e~~ ci~:!~ t~e~h;~e~~~e~8 s~!t~}~~e ei~~ ." Then he made some remark te~ the effect that he did have confidence in me .
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have ~~:~ l~':~.~~~~n t:it~0~;::~i~1n~ ~~~ · !x~:• c!~t~!~ ~h:t J~~v:r!;: ' 1 ~sb;!in;Y:u ~~~i; ~~~~hl:'!::~tl.n"~~~~~!i ~!~enue, and I am buing e littla trouble dth Nunan . I have got to get good ~:~en , and he has reeon:Aendad & mill\ for his Auhtant :~~~~,~~:~ t o~:i:~d 1;o~0 ~~~~ti~ ne;~~ i:::l~t·:ht~· .:!.n~:~r i: ::!~~•tJ'!!id , P;;!~t0Nun~~n~!s tb~:n a~b~~ h:~n:::~ t a~~~~k it and you will probe.bly hear about it . • He uid , •oon't worry about Hannaga.n . I will talce care of hi11. Don't you take~-!:~~~d!~'bo~; ~:ny~~ . t~idJ~;; • an~' r!':~i:~'~No: 1y~:v:rd~~~~:-I uid, ~Look , llr . President , with all thh new 'IIOrk , Nunan
H>!:i~~!,c~m:i~~~:~un~e;~~~~::!:i, ~~:~~r~!ldun~L~~·t Pre~dent , I don't lmaw whether you !mow atout llll pol l. tical attitude , but I hanbaenon the Ste.teCOl:llllittu, and I han ~:~c~.t~~ioH:l ,:~tg:~·rm~~d y~u. h~=~~~ e~w't:! tb~~: !:;y o~g:~~ation I said , "I w~t to take recolllll!endat!.ons ~rom the Party." '!'hen ~~e;·~t~. ~~!~ ~ 1!u.!id: t,.:!"h!!. h65e P!~1~~:1 t~:1i!~~!r:n:f ~:;• ~~a~e R:;~~~e ~t~~~~b~du~:m~;t!~~~ t~:n~:n !~!!. 0~f~:~~~!~ing. • The President add , "ou are right, and we will Get somebody.•
I think this took care of that situation very nicely; in other words , ! beat HMnegan ~d Nunan to the punch . Of course, thh ia always the wey I wo:-lted with Roo1evelt.
After that , UattConnell;y came inanduid , "J.[r. Preddent, lt is 10 :25, ar.d rou have a yreu conference ll.t 10:30 and • ie~:!0ha~:e~~!•:or: !1!~ie~! t~,~:t ;:o~e:a~~~ ;~e11i~~ ~:rif
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~:~/ig~r::~ :~y h:i~h! hi:'"!sm=i~u~:!e~~a~e~id:~~ ~a!!o~ped ~h~f~e ~~~. th~! ~he a~!m~hfr~:10~~o~:i1 ~~ ~,.;t:! ·wnaon, lnd he said it was okay. ·
I uid to the President during the cours e ofoureon-
r:b~~itt~Z~p~~~:~~ · r~~rr~~si~z;· .. t~l ' ~aikt J'~~?~i:tt t~~~o a depression . Both Krug and Henry We.llaee have been talking , an<! I think you should t ell ther:1 to atop . " The PresiCent add , " I know . "
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l!ATTERS TO BE TAKE!l UP WITH THE PRESIDEtrl'
June 1 , 1945 - 9 :45a .m.
1. Suggest to the Pres ident tha.t t hey replace General Clay "ith either Senator Kilgore or Robert Pattenon .
2. llemorandum on Per3onnel for General Cl~cy .
3 . Memorandum on Ho" De- Nazification Program is Being Carried Out .
V{ Letter from the President t o Congre u man Spence· on Bretton Woods .
C 5. ~:~~ei~; ~~:~~~~! ~~~u~0~~~~~!a ~ouse Banking and
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6 . Talktothe Presidentaboutintroductl onoftaxbill.
? . Cotton f orChina.
S . Giannini.
9 . Letter fr om Senator Kilgore .
10. St e ttinius - Byrnes./
./11. No talk about unemployment figur es .
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!.•~!:; :'~ .. ~:1 tha l:!!J:'f:- •m:: u. lllll. You. a ur. tilll•tr.w'u •ll u ta. :3:. ......_ ot .the c-J.tt .. , Mw a-u..w a hidl'-cn• ot lhta....uiJ -a ~iMualp lw •b.leh '-•1• UAM~Mit.r!leJl -•i..-naMt. euo\ll'lri;H that tbelr' u.wll hu • • lA& 1a ienu ot "-,..,... ~
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;h!~~~ J~~~!:~~:;;i~;~!:f!~~!e:~~;~ b!~: :d! ~!!~~~e ~~~:~,~er¥1~h:;u~~ ~~. rrr;~ ~8ih~:,~~f~!,. ttre~e:ill have talked ua into a depression, and the President
!~~~:!i:;::~~~~:o!~a ~:~!~a~~::~~~~i~ r?u~l fi!~!~: !!n ~:rfe!; =~~~:~{r~ali~~'"~Ar~:rb~h!n~~:a ~~~!!ce is over , I would Hke to r&lse t he question again . "
When I fi r s t11entln, I thanked the Prn ldent
f!i ;~;~~: ~~~:f~i~:~;~i~Ir~;t!: h~::~it!; ~:~~:~h;.: ~F~ u good a r eception . The Pre!ident bac ked tie up , and
!c~rU~~n'~!fia;!~ ~~u.~il ~r:~a;!~e t~~ l~ 1~inion , " and l nid,"Ithinklcanguarantee the.t . "
Thenl reu.dthereportoneottonforChlna,
!!~y :th~!i~~H!~o~~~~~;h~t ;}~:~ ,;!~:~: o~;~~~~h ~rng t hat .
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1. No hlk about unemployment figu res .
2. PutSenat orJleKellar ' tfeetto!ireon approprittions for &ddition.l Enforee ~:~ent people .
3. Cotton ! orChina.
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!W'(i!T (P SPECIAL CAAJ'ITI!j! 91; CHINESE Rl!!j!,tlBSTS
.&. 3pee1a1 Coo=lttee, conahtlns ot tbe und.er'.tsna4, h .. .,ada the tollowin ... U'l'Ul .;c=entc 1n responae to the Cblna~a J"aq_uu •t !: 0'1' ~o ld , text llea 11nd t l"\lclca.
l, 9..2M. 3189 , 224, 000 ot ..;old h to be *t i pped t o China.
2 , Textiles
We have bean ::uceaearul i n ,_;ct tin:; a ler..;o allocation or
~;~~ ~:~itt ~/:-nt.c~~~·f..~!ri~~~1~i~hv~: g~6~ ~~f~1a appfteatto:;n, J. tire alloc et1on ot 45- :::.! lllon iarda h u bean
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ot Arr.o :t cut bo.c· :s . A Lend-Lc11~t l' e ,u1siticn l..s bu1ns filed b:t tC"' Chi :<:. Ocv .rn.... .. n t \'; ith ~:A , Md tiwr J.rr:ry h to have no , • .,~_lO'l~:·.:l~ty ·,ol· rlnnhc l n .; •
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latest I r:;:r~h~np~!~1~:~.~hi~em::~~~g'rr'{o~ ::::e~~:l~e {0~a~~t·~~ . t~ ~h\n~ :! 1!i~1 ~=:: ;~u·:~ttl i!w!~r. ~~:·~~d ottheDrlvebeoausewestlllhavetourweeketogo."
I showed him the charts on the llaritice Com.inlon , and he wu inter ested . I said that aoJUbody in the Bureau of the Budget ought to do one like thet on the War Department, and heeg1'eed .
On the War Refugee Board, he reed m.y meCiorandum end
~~ 1~he ·~~:~;ta~in~t" th~d I~i.~i~~~d ~h!.Ut:~:~hi~mo::~~ whetherhedldn'twanttoconsultickes , andheufdthat he would call him on the telephone and talk to hla about it. !:e t~i~~j:~~!n t~: ~~~~u~~!,~~~r:~1 I ~dl~ ~=~d I ht~dn ' t whether he did , and he sald he bed no oojectlon .
I told the President that O' Dwyer hRdn ' t gotten R very good ticlc:et to run on , and he felt Ed Flynn had gi ven him a very poor pereon . The Pruldent uld , •r !mow tllat . I am so t::~:u:t:o ~dv! :o~~ocr:!ie ~~~~ i~0 tl~:.,;o~~;,! c~e~u:! ~~=~ h: !~:~d hil~!d t: !~n~o~l~l f~o;aGx.:~:~d1a ~d t~!t n ,ld LaGutrdiawantedtobeaGenereltnthe A. rt;~,Yhutheeouldn ' t five hilt that. The President asked me if I wouldn ' t pl~ue .~;:~h~~g~omzt~~i~k r~~ ~~:rd l~~e P~:~~in~o~~~~~ l~o E~~~;~e -o:t hut, theJ wouldn't pull the wool over his eyea .
he had 1 R!~~t t~~/;;;'i!:n~~hjt s!lda~h~ ~hha~•t:;:d ~~:~
hewouldrecallhfm. Heseldthathehadaverynieetalk wlt)l him, and that he had spoken t o General Mershmll about him and that llarahdl had nld that Eisenhower ws~ satisfied
:~!~t li~~~~Y w~e:•~:~.;:~1i1l!o~:i~~~:~!~u h=~~: •ge ih:n P~:~fd!nt nld that he had great confidence in Kilgore , and I add that I did abo.
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,I •poke to him about the tax bill , .md I uld that we were just sitting tight. He said he thought thtt wu ~ ~!8~!;8i~:d t~h!t 0!!:8!n:'!r c~h!nfn~~g!0 n:'!a~~o1~:0i~o., hlktohi111about.
Wiacon;~~n .;d t:~~:.!~.~h:n~r::~1:i~eab~~thr:s!~ r';~~ !:nding hi111ingrutdetdl. I add that I had to strangthfln Internd
~::n~h~ r!~:~~~~~~~ ~~:ur u~' i~a~!~u!n~8~!1:~td0~:b~~ught }~d!\ "i~ Mi~~!~~!; .~~~he 1 r!~~:~-~!b~~v;e~~~! h~:io!n!!~aiaate I d d not accept.M He aaid t hat we ought to look him onr
:~: 1~: s!~!~d v~~:!!!h~H~:H:~!~:;•=t~~i:~~~~i!~~!~ij h!!!~~:~~ . ~i~l:!/::~f~/!i ~~~\t:~rrow, and that I expected to tell
the bal!oi~ ¥~dt!~:t ab~u~·~:o~:;!~fn: !~ t~~! :~~~~~~/!!~ar , ;~~t!~dt c~:~~::·~:n b;u~!~:,~!a ~~~rir1·~:n;r~:~x;~f said , •~, Ludlo'll' i' dwaya bothered with socething."
I thnked him for his letter on making 1:1e Chair::tllii :~a t~~n~~t:i'~r~~r;:;~Y ~:~;U ~~.in~:r~!j 1~~~i ~:·~:a.r .round to all the depart!:lenh concerned, -.nd that if they didn't li ke it it'II'U j us t t oo bad . I said , -r.ell , I hope t hat 11 you ever do anything like that affecting the Treasury l'll'illhave~day in court," and he said that was the way he 'll'orked.
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veterJ:~e~r~a~f~:~i~~s hi~ :~~!c ~~~~g;~~h 1~u;h~r~~~e~n ~~~:H;i~~ f~~ rte~~: t~~ ~~:y v:~:":~:~g '~~ ~~ ~~~:"~~ orSet~;rday .
Er.!plor!e~~o::d tJ ~~id a~h~~ ;~e h;db~~~~i~~it~!e~h~~ ~~~~e ~~~~f~id' ~r.~e dh~d r~~~h~i ~~r t~he NN~ii~~!l R::~~~~~!s B~~~~d . and he agreed that we had to have socething ll.ke the.t , and he uid ::1aybe we could get something and cell it by a different name .
In talking about theC&binet Committee on Full
;~a~~~t:he! ~~1~ !~~;t~!iftni~t ::~:~e~b~~~ ~~~~!!~re~~ usedsoi:leveryfoullangua.gewhicfindlaatedhedidn ' tthl.nk
c ~:~~~~d ~:~rd'h~t~~~:e;ahe!~kk~:fo~:o~the !!td , m~!ila~; r:ct, h~!~in~e b~!1d, c:i ~~~; ~r:~t ~~ ~~c:;t~i~:e o~x~~~:dc::i~te e ~!~1 g~ ~~;e~h~~~~a1 ~~itb~~~!:s!11be ~~r!hi~ ~~~;i~~eh~~: 'J'ree.surybecaus ewehe.vebeenne&rer rightlnforecasting business tha:t anyother depart1:1ent in Washington.
llorgen {h!~ 1~a~~m:~~i~~o~~oh;w h~~n!!~~e 1 I ":!s t~hri:" ~~~:~~~a$
eway, e.nC. he said , MI !ll:l the lonesoiaest man in Washington . I have nothing to do but we.lk around all by mysel£ .M He
!~~dlo~~r t~e h~~;,:~er~ ~:k:~ hl:ra ~~l:~e~npl!y~~ :~~:r, and he said , "Yes , end I fllll going up to Joe Davi es Friday nl ghttoplaypoker withhim.
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June 6, 1945 - 10 : 30 a..m.
l. P.eportonWe.rBonds . V
2 . Chartsonllarlt laeCo::llll isslon .
3 . . War Refugee Board . t.---"'
4. What about Robert Murphy? I 5. TnBill.V
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of Internal Revenue . Has he any particular part of the United St&tes in mind that he wouldlike~:~etolookforsuchar.~an?
7 • ~~v~~~e~ ~~ t~!;o~to~~;~e:~;~ banks on cooperating ~
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taqr \b.e oo\abUU.Oat of a aov Cob&a.\ -tuoo to ••Ua• tho rofiiCO• ..rk of Ulb .. ,..,...., 1a tao poot-var pol'toG, I UloaP' 701.1 wCNl.d Uko '' kuv loU.\ otopo .,.. be111t; lakoll lMU ... \0 ~ HJ'l7 l14u1AoUoo at Ulo Will' Ro tua11lo11'4 .
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fllero h 01.~.._ tor 10\ll' oo~r. o iAoraUoa a 4rot\ or a Pl'opooM • .-... .. lo \be .c:. .. u\ho DlrHSol' of t.bo liar
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I eew the Pr uldent of the tlnlted Stetu thle110mlng, end uhd blair hi had recei.,.d the in'f1tetlon tor• to go
!bo~~'lt': ,::.::!~1h:11!~b.end thet he bed telked to Gr ..
The Prnident u eud "'1'1 auoh dhtncted and tldcetJ, end IOI't Of !u.pd 11'0\ll!.d t he rooa end reoed up eru! dowu , He aeld, "I uet hl'fen ' t bed tiae to t h nk thh thing thr ough . "
~.!:!!~c;'~! th!t: :::ri~. f::~ ~~:~ ~ ~ ~~u}~!:~!n~o t!'~h~ •• •
~: ~:!! !!Ii~~~a "tt~t I e!_: ~:e~hf:k ~t~;o~~:nt I t:.a~e ;! ~:~:t ~~~~:!o!\~'IG~::,a=~~~!'thi!,~i~ :r~~:•·; uked blalf hi were goia.g to Parh , ud be eald, "Jio,•
All I Olli.I&J'le that there h e detl.nlte block lnhll brdn on thh thing, 111d I hen run into it n011 t wo or three tt..u. Whet it h, I don't lcn 011.
I add to the Pruldent, "I oertalnlJ don ' t want to go
=~~~~:~ {~~r .!}'~~l~~·d:n:oh~!a!:tl"io d:~~~· :;n!n{!~e t;l::,. !:f~: d~d!~~d:....:! !n., n:l(efoa1'1 . could aupple•nt JOur golq,"
I told hla that when I went o•er there for Prui.dent Roounlt leet .t.ug~ut I folll!.d thet the i1'19' WII for building upaltrongGera&J~~J,andthati wouldllketoaee whatthaJare doing no.. I nl.d that General Clay eurro\Uidl hhuelf
:~!et 't~~t If .!t}~ ~~"d:! . ~e~t}:, ~~;'b!:d s!:.{!~a ,;!~~t r e or !ll1•elt would tdl JOu the truth." Then hel1111ped et tfie i~~:O~~ifi !:tero•~:.t:n~o ~:~:~.:~! a · 1 "!ill, •::j!~~~~ in:o~: ~:~ G!~·torh:Pr~i~:n:h:J~~~.;::, tjl~:;o:~:f t~~I~l':n:1~,"!~t"•JI!, 'i1!~;l~~ i.ik ~~. 1:h~! t~Fni !:.~o wi th Kilgore.•
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THE WHITE BOOS!
WASHINGTON, D. C.
Jlaorndua for General Yarahdlz
I hue aoceptd an indbtlon fro. the P renc~h
~!'j~'~! ~::~~. ~-.:rc::h::h~:l~~ tl :::i:' .;;~!: b~!t!M \~! )'!~t would. ·::i.!!p~==·~=r:~~/:::. one J OU t111'11febel :f". tut Auguet when he went to England ud Jloi'I&&Dq.
While llr. Korgenthau 11 on the Continent, I
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J.tr. Jlorgenthau .leo will look into the French ll!d Geraan u:obange dtuatlon u 1t att.oh th11 .lJMricu eoldhre.
I abo .. nt Ur. Morgtnthau to ~;et IOJU idu of how
:t:t.~!r 1 !Jo;~t~:n o:fto!~f!~~h!~!:f'r: !:n~;.
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to hla all courtulu.
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WASHIJ«'.roll , D.C .
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Plu.t.• iato ... th• l'l'nllh Goni'IIMDt t hat I&OIIIlptth•lndtatioaofth•PI'odlillll.t.l
~;;.~J!! :! ~:..:;:::~t!:r.!1;r ~.·::I'~~ Gon,_11t to Frua• 111'17 ill Jill¥ to ope11 llll .blrh anWar 110114 F.Ulhit .
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the Pr~l~:!~~:·~;e~~t!r;:·.~a'fo::it J4It!i~:~~;~~~~ld ~;a t thh cunge our to the Pruident . •
whatbe~bi!~ld0b!hwif~l~:io11:~~:;t a~~kin!~ t!i1~0~~ go toFranca andopentba !mericanl'lartlondE.rl>lbit. Tbay
~:!:~.ii . to I c:;~k!0 t~P~::~J:n~·f~=:~t .!:• a:~;d 1 ~1!1 whe ther he w&a willing to han the French extend an in'fib.tion . Headdyu. Then Phno spoke tome about
g~":~dc!m!o!~.;l:r~~ ~:.•r:;:.!:~~·~~i~~~;~~t ~~~~ n i dyn . Then the inTit.&tion arrived l&atW:onday, and I spoke to President TrWIWI abrut it hat Wednesday and he uid he wantedto thin,kit onr!oraday or bro.
t ha t t!i!0~: ~~11! 1~tt:~do} J::r.•~;da!!tl:•;~~h1m!~b:ther I go or whether 1 don't go, but I would llka for the
::::;~a!~~t~!!la~:i ~u!:·~. ~;~1~~ i f~ · t~r:"~~rn:0~p ~;tng ~::!!';"~e.,~~ :"ai!~~rz:~· t:t!~~~1~f~af!fi .. :~~~~!c~:~c~~ 1·~ Connelly, of cO\lru , W&t in e. gr eat burry bec&uae I had uked tote.lktobl.=beforeheuwtt.e President , but he add he would take care of it.
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~= ;~:id~:;,!• ft: 1:~i~~ fJ,:~~ !nO:"Ir:t:i"bl;~:~t~ thought lt wu terrlblt . He nid he agreed wi th ae but
~11:!1~1 t~:~ufh~h!~hi' h!":~~!hi' t!" t:0 ~~~i~~i!s 1 !bout it, and he u l d he would t17 . He .. {a that the7 are changing
~:: ~!f;tit~4.J:i!:1!:, 0~r~e:t/~~:~~g ~:. ·:~!~:! ::• the7 are going to gin thea the brukl.
I tho u.id to Connell7, "Look, u !ar u the President
~:k:~n::"!b!~t •:•:!~~!8 o~1 t::•:,;• •&f!I~t!:!t~r h~1 ~:: !:~id!~·h!,!11!.~. 1 th:=~~ hi':,:d1~at• I t=~~:a ·~:. 11
;reeldent would uu ae aora .
I t ben went in to ue Pruldent 'l'rwun, and I bed been prepar ed to JUke • little apuoh to b.ia to the ethot that\
7 .~:~,11~0 c~~a:lir •t:i~ t.: ~!~·;;. 0~a~ 1!i .. ::d bt:·:· -::~~~ !!~o:~r:!t! :n~' .. ~d.t~~ :::1~!! ~t~!:t~P .. ~!~t1:~/•e ,
!olng to P'rane~ dl d..,- Sund..,-, and I don ' t want ;you to go . wut 7ou to 1t11.1 ben. I don't want ;you and .;rul! OYtr
t bereatthe•peti.s . 'lhenioollllb&ek7oucango~.J~Yplece ,
:0~~:: . 701 :ii~ ~: .. !: ~hn';:er~: . • 11 ' H:•!!rd:I.io~!e80ot to workout withStalin - an"dChurol:.illaplanfor Oe rll~,~ and I don 't lmow just bow be put it, but be ide& he aonn;yed to ae wu ht didn't want 111e 11111lng &round o•er thtre &t
~h: .. 1~·.~~~· P:::i~!:t!t tb~f~! :tt• ri~b~1!fl:11!!. !or~!-· ihi:!di~t 1:•~:; ~o:;n~f.:~n~u~0·sf:li:'h.!h~~:l.~d :c::ae I I
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!~:e~b~::b .!~k!j !~; ::~;:~~=o t~~!! !~e{h!:~ld get
the Pruident n.id, "I don't want rou to be out o! the cOWitl'f whlh I .. , • ao I add, "''rell, wh"l J(r. Roonult went t o the Crl•a, he told thfl Cabinet that
: d!!:~to~'~} tht ::r!!!:;n.~!!; r!h!:i~ !~~f'{~:ing catfut togetha;:'{ He aaid, "That'& 1'1). I want rou to r .!:rd· au!hur:t:a~hh.~~~~~~o::' r~n 1;:~· th!n ·:;di.~·!!& I wauld like you to a~ eoaathlng to the Cabinet before :you laue,• and he uid that he would.
During thh dhcuuion, ha nid tha t he tilt like a brother to·..-ard& •, and ba wl.ahed I would feel that " "'1 tow•rdt bia, and I add that I would llka to. I aaid , "Wr . Prnidant, about vq own affdra you hne bean wonder· !~1~an~d t~0do h:b!t~dj ifk!0~!t~:n 1~~~h ::•!!Li" th~; ifid, !!;.!!: ::!;.!;7'!njhjt,:~de!~;:.f'!u1~:,,~: "~! 1trnted me •ore on a aan- to-aan equ• bub today than he ner hu before. He •ade one reJUrk th•t didn't lUke unu. He uld, •I h•Te no .. bltiou. Thera h nothing I want . • I would Hke to relllnd hi• about that two 1e•n from now wben ~:T:f~n:n;~~1: ~o;..;;~-:!::;~o~~ .!r::l:~~~~ell, I eertdnly
I edd, •Jlr . Prnident, if 7ou don 't aind - thh lle&Uge t roa France wu addreued to JOU . Would 7011 •lnd telling Grew to antwer itt• He uld that he would .
Then I told the Pruldent that Jlalgore had been to"' ra•, and h• uld, •r think nr7 highl7 of hi•, • and I uld, :; ~:: ~~~i • on I a:~!n;~'!n~1~~:~• h:•:!:~.:o .:t::t e~:r~;:'' and talk •bout the W:orgenthau Plan. The Pruident nld, •well,Ifeel •boutthetjuetthe wayldoabout,our ~~~~ ~0 b!~:o:' fe!td!~'~b:an~o~~~::• t~~. h:!:r!;:~~:~: !o!: 1~~e~~~!· u!~il0;o:8:o~ 1~!:k' ~e~!:\:e b::u!!k:~·t-
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Ch.:rton ; ha hu uked Baruch, and a lot of othere . " that he would .
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f''ti!!~ ~o·::: !!'! !tt~~!!. 11 ~'.!1a~i :.o:t1:o!~g·~r ~:=1:: :~~ - ~ciu::i~ , d~!t":!tf0;o!0~: ~·itfg:a u H~~r~tag, 0!1~!:~:: 1~11 t!!1~{g=~ ::n~~~~!~"' 1 11!:Uid ~~:a aade hila Secr eh r1 of Labor 1! I could han spared hl11 . He would han been good . " '
Then I said, "I! the atoriu ar e true that Patton la to
~i~~~k p~~:;~go~~·;,;:u~:.{o~l!~li: ~~t~i!:obu~o a take !:~:~·:,:.t!!' .:~:·!:•:;.~·~::~r·hl~~ 11:h~!1!! · .~: ~·n the Senah. • I uid that I had apoken to U l gore about it, andhethought we llo!it.
Then I said, "I want to hlk to 7011 about one othe r
T'!!~~ - ;h.~· I h::.t::t:n c~~p~: ::~:"!t::t::~ ~~t t~e .~:r:d ~~ :~·c.r~ ::1g.;~:; ~!~:!f:!!~0~r11i!t~!:tm:::.!~:: tn!ak• th&t wa bad been e~hecking bia ree~ord a . I nid , "He h the fellow-.botriedBioffandSchene~ltanddid.uchabld. Job that I had to -ave the cue to He• Tork." The Pruidtnt
::~: : ::11:0~1~~;.: :'"f~iu! ~~=!a:;~ !:u!~1t1:~ge:~ I 1011ebod:rehe.
is I go t up tolene , I nid to t he Pruident, "I think
k~~.:~:~t !ik~" t:.~~--~~t t~at., t~~!a! tl ::!t ~!l~t~elpful in 1n1 ••T I can. I would juat like to get thet 10 and n Pegle r . • I told b.ia thlt I hid gotten Randolyh Peul to be his lttcrnt:r, and I thoUi;ht Elliott • •• in t~e-O'ltar but that I didn't think Mr . Hartford of the l &..JP wu . Prnl.dentTruaan.reall:r aeemed to be inter utedinbel.ng helpful.
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H.M.m: This is on a confer-ence yesterday morninc
·~~r~ ~~'~{o~~P~~~5 tri 1• eai~8~e~~e:r~~~~~~H~Cln~e ~~~1~8
l~~~o~~~hf~P~~~~f t~!s al~~~e~4~oi~s~8 lai~~~:s~~~~ i~ey had imprisoned, and he had about worked that out when the l!les ~ a.ge car.te tha t they wanted him to take up with Stalin
~~= t q~~!i~~\~!wv~~~h1:8~b~t ~~. F~~de~!egisc~~s!~1~ t i n
~~: ~~~~:~ge t~ 1 ;fv~~!oi~~ rfi~ ~:!d t~i~t:~ ~~~r~e~0;~~r~ A:neric t n whib he found Stalin ver1 pro-·AJ;:.arican, He said finally Stalin agreed that he :YOuld go along the way we wanted him to . He cane away feelin~ tha t OU!' relationship withtheRussie.nswaafundarnentall;rgcod ,
With !'&gard to the Japanese he said \lhether we l'l!lnted i t or not , the ituss ians would come in and fight the Japanese sometime this fall. He sdd that Stalin wanted. t() W()rk with Chiang Kai -~hek and. T. V. So()ng, but he didn ' t
~~t f~() t~! r!~~~a~led()~~i:! ;~ ~~!:~f!i s :ha ~e h!a~dd t~:Y weren ' t real Cor.J:~Unists and. that once they bege.n to fi ght , if they took a tOYfl'l i n China, that they 'lf()uld hnve Chinese . officials wi th them t() immedi ately phce in char~. Th.ey had no intention of encroaching on Chinese territory . Th.ey
f:!1~e~~w;i~~ · th!~~h: ~~~~i~~~~ :s r~~i~()!d ;h~d 01 f~k:it~ that he meant the J.:anchuri en Railroa<! "hich would. end. at eithe r ~i ren or in that vicini ty . I t old him what I had done for T. V. Soonr, and he d idn ' t even know a bout it , and T. V. Soong hed ·Je idthathe neededourhelp inordertof;CtO l!oscow . Hopkinsl,as quite certei n thatStelin·.,an t edtodo business 1rith the Chinese end had no intention of encroachin~; on them other than throu~h Ma nchuria which , after all , they haven' t had f.o r a lon ~; ti.r.le. He also said that Stalin wanted. tohavcapart i ntheoccupationofJa pen.
'lhe interesting thinzthat!lopkinssaidwasthatat notirnedurin l); thisdiscu ssiondidthefinanclelquestion
~~id ~~~~~o~h;;e d1de~~io~i~~u~s ll:~d-i~:s!. t hink he also
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on St~f~~:1!{tt~d: r~::~dc:::~it~!:,~:~of\~~o.tl!:ikine ::~~~~r,~ :~,~;~1:!~ ~h: ;~!~!~~ chfn:~:tR!.:~~~t .
Hopkins is ._rrllllch worried about Pruldent TM.ulan ' a t riptotheso•calledl!erllncon!erence , ilet'eelsthat
~:=~! ~: fh!n~7~;~ ~r~~~~l ~:tp:,~~:.~~o~~~.~~a to go along with him on the same boat Sam Rosellfllll.n , but
*ii~!1~i~:~ill:~:t::;~giti~. t! d~:~~~: L~t;!h!nhu· conference but will accompany Prnidant Tr\llll!.n in some
~~h~~-~:P:~iik~~~~ta:!r~:·$:!!~ ~: ~: :~r~;~~t.~. HopkiM, uems tobeworriedabouthhrelationewlth Byrnes . lie said he would ~:~,~~.ke up his tllnd Satur day what hewugolngtodo ,
l that ~,r!!~~dd~~~! ~hl~h!~'tba~4~o':;~l~, !~Jdr!}~4~r
me and ga t TV reaction . I wu 1110at comolimenh.ry about
;~:o~*'~! ·~~c~~;.~i~r!:t~~~1 ;r:!nu~r~~~~r~;rlo Be rlin. ltoldhlmthatwehadavecyexcellent~:~&n,
m~~~ ~d~~tdnr:~lo~:; ~e"~!~th;;u~~~elh~n~b:~0he
had seen in Europe on the econolllic front, 1 abo told him that both Yost and Reams had such an excellent attitude , and he said he wu going to look them up, bacause he wanted somebody !rom the Stah Department who would look after him alene ,
HetoldmehehadbeenoutattheliavalHosoite.l havinv, a blood tnnsfudon end he hadn't intended to see ~!r .
~~1do~t o:~:~d~e h~:m~~~t l~hhf: • ~~:~~b=~s .~~~~c~~ft uo
was terribly nolted because Stettinlus had just called up askinr,Hull'sad'l'ioeonwh&theahoulddoinrepardtothe Arr,entlne , and Hull said that hewu just sr.nrt enour;h to ask Stettlniuawhat President Truman bed advised, and PruidentTI'UI:IInhadadviudhilll to lean ituo to the A.oterlcan Deleeatlon. Then Stettinlua t old Hull that the
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.-bol e AmericM Delteation 'll'ould !nor recognition of the Ar~ntine, ao Hull said he i!.eol ded to give Stettlniua no advice . Hookina aumed to think t hat that wu so :m~a rt, and l said , "Well, Hull ' s r ecord on the Arfentlne
~!!m!d'~o t~~i~1h~ "haJb! t v:~;m;;~o~0 r!~~~d!':n~o~k a~~d h~e hadn' t.
To go back to hie talk with Stalin, St&lin twitted
~~~~in!~n=~~'H!~~n~n :ar~m!o 1:~.~~~ tu~ ~::i~~.lh• Stalin o! hie ' 38 - ' 39 attitude toward Geree.fiT. He add Stalin let the utter dr op .
Hopkins said that the feeling in thh coWltrt nellll!d to improve tarrard Runla , and I nid , yea , I thour,ht it he.d , and that he deserved full credit fo r it .
He aho thinka it is a mistake for General Elsenholl'fll'
~h.f'~.·~!am~d~ ~~c~n, t~~~a:~t~~·;:c~~a~~~Kt~r:,~. , ~~ ~~.~:i~,o~}~~·.~r:n~;,~i~ ~~ait~isH~·lhi~;o~ will eivilian should be nut in charge of Germany u American repr esentative .
his w~i~~1!r~!~~ !~:~i~~!~ly ~ ~~~:· ;~• t~~~~~ 'li'OI.I ldn't ge t &ey'llhere . He recoiiiD.ende.d to Pauley that after thr ee or four weekt they leave and go to Berlin. lie
!:!~1 s,~~~~qn t~i~gfl~oh: ~ii1 °{a~~e a:~~h oiL ":~'fj~p~~a seemed to o .. worried about him.
eight~t~':~t;: th H~0a~~n~i~;tr:e~~n~0~~3ihe I tiT~t!i~ r=~t ~h~ ~hhi ~ ~!(! h:tf:!n~h~~~~~on:id:~~t, v~~~r~;:~~ · but e h!a~:d ~i~~=dd~~r!~m~,~~r~~u~~~ w~e b~~ ~u~~~i~~L,nei:b~ut very sick man.
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tO d;r ;~ 1,10 ~~·~;h~~ 1 ~~~ 0~0 t~/O c~~n!ti/re~;~·t~i l~~~~.~"l ~ U;>~hlc ··:· J:'• ~"~ o! t~• co::.;-~ruti.an:
"Only pretty \Tall? Didn 't you CRtch a:1y fhh? ~No fish.
JulyS, l945
Pruent: D. W. Bell HerbertGuton Krs. Uoh GenerdGreenba1111
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the 1a!t c:~!.:d I 0:a~h.~:·;!~•:!ir;o:'~~it -~~:· a ~~oi~!~ 1~:n~ . and I 'IIOUld lih to nciprocete that feeling.~ He add,
;~~i~~ ~~h~~:. !.n s:i~tc~:l ·;~tl;1~:1~~~ reri~:ld~t:r!~'!r e !:~: 1 :!a ::~. ~~~!t 1~ 'U1!:1 ~h~~:;~~ :~c~ ::~riik~n~~·~:~~: !h:r!~~·~!::~:!~tll~1 ~~lr: ;~~ !~:"!.!;~!us~.
1 1~.~:!~:' ::1i:d I ':!4' o:~' I I a:.~~~~J~ ::1 th:~:":nlh:.~r. ~.~t1e ;:~~ I~~e .!ia~;.ll: Ih:!~~~ ~~~an~:: t~..!~'! ::!~~.~;;t&f'1 of the Treuuey . M I eald, "Well, )lr. Prealdent, 1r you have any doubtainyourw.indefterm,yreoordo!l2yearahere, and
:~~;~r~~v;~:l o~~~h~o ·~~y;~u~h:inJ ~~~ ~~'i/;~u,o~~al lwow it , I want to get out now. "
Well, he uid, "Let me thlnlt thh thing our . M I uld , "J.Ir. Prulden t , fro= uvenl reJUrks 7ou hue droppeCI you IIUtt
~~~~ :~RII!~~nfti~0~~~r :!n:~id:i~~~~J?~ ::k! ~e:; ~~d~~n•t, !r •:!:tg:~~!~ . ~· IP~:~!~·~~uia a;o~0~~~e t:e ·~~ t:t!;\hi~:tter k~u .:id, ·~to!~uld iik!d ,.~~u t! 1 :~.;o w~rl: ~ t a!·~~r:;~~~t im::~~~telyY" :~:}~• O~ =~l!n:!~;· (~~u,:~~t!:;;·})e 0:.1~~ ;-:;. ~~ to put in 1
I uiCI, •oo you want ~ae to bNOak in VinaOn 11 fll1 1Ueeeuor
:~i~~e~~t·~r f!~d!;,!:! .h• said, •Ob, Vins on is going with 1111
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and I ~:1d·~1m t~~!t hi ~~lt:v:~Y hf~b~~~~~~~~~u!a~:iy 3 ~~!1~~blie didn ' t . I toloi him I wu 'llilling to atay until after he cune
~!~=r~d t~!~!~1dTh:~o~ ::ia~u~~~f. ~f M;vo~" d~~f~·~~e. t~~t out !~~~fr:~ t 1 1ik!1 t~11 d~0~~=~ !~if~ v;o~ t a~~t o~0~~~"~igh •::a!, M
eo he said that he would do it tonight .
H11 add several time & - he kept r epe ating hluelf -that he wanted to think thh over, a.nd I se.id, "Elth~ r ;you want me to stay un t il V- J Day or you don ' t . ~ I said , "lfter all, !lr. PreJident, I don ' t think it 15 conce ited t o say that
:a~'\111;o~:~:~ ~~ f~~ac:bi~:i~·~da o~0:m:r ojh~h;~vi ~hrJ·;~!•
cefin tilly made a mhtake , " He said , "Well , this ~:~akn me feel VM'J' badly, " and I uid , "Well , don ' t hel b•dlr." He
~~Hii~:r:.rtt~:~l~ is a~~f~Y ~o! ~h:~ ~~~ ~i:~~~~ ve ry
I fo\JJid him very weak and indecisive , but I benaed defl ·
~~ t!!~t!~~~~o h~h~~~~ 1 ~h~n t~!!~ ~: t I I a:a:e~~ ~~=d "tf.a~u!y ~~~ui tion \O'U cornet and t hat I picked the time rather t hen having him pickthetiJDe .
I et.id to him, ~It i a unfortunate that you haven ' t t aken
~~~;y ~~ f ~~mh!~~ .T:~:s~:y ~~~=~!h n~o~0!:.~~~~ e ;e~a~e ll~~!dhl!ion 'll'hetherhe wouldlike totaketheMorgenthauPlen•ithhl.JI, and he n i d, ~oh, I have · read it, and I kno• eve rything t hat h in it, and I think it is very good . ~ Then I said , "Well , once I
f: ~ut?~v:~~ ~~ t!!~~ : ~g~ , "~~ : t Ih:;e i:n~o;:1:~! 1 ~~c~~d ~if~ vi ng that . "
I&lsotoldthePresidentthattheca"blefro~:~Churchill
:~ f~~ ~~Yt!~!hc~~:n~} ~h:~ ~:~=~~=~iy~d he said , •o~ , I 111!1
The Pr esident signed t he letter t o Senator fl!.. rkle;v on ll r e tton Woode. I told him about the 10 to 8 vote on the idvi sory Cm:c ittee , end tilat seeced to aurprise him. I abo
!:!! ~~~~~r~~:u; :l~l=~~~~:mg 10 !Pillion dollars , and that didn ' t
ITEIB '!'0 1!E TAKK!f UP \11TH THE PRESIDEJn'
Jul.z5 . 1945 - lO : SO a.m.
1. Give Preeldent copy of the Yor r,enthau Plan .
4 . Talk to the Pre,ldent about by 2Btb Cable rrom • Churchill - (:ae!lloattached)
S •. ElliottRoosevelt.
' 6 . Talk to the Prniclent aboutWe!.egal and Seh,...n .
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7 . Talk to the President about Saith Tr oy , .t.ttorne7 J General tor the State ot Wublngton .
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Pr-uent:
Jul,. 11, 1945
Hnry lllhite Herbert Guton John Pehle Jb-s. Klotz
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Hl( J r: judge Ro&eM.I.Il hu just been here for one hour, and he 'II U with Pru ident Truman at fi ve o'clock lut Friday,
~d ,;~:,~n~~.~ t~H ~:;' l:n~";::~ia ~h:a 'b;;~~!iit~'~P J.~~::iaent Truman, l.naltting that b. accept rq rulgnatlon and aend up Vlnson'anll!De .
He u.id that Truman htd told them the whole s tory of whd
~a~:~:~ ~:d r::!!nPL~!!~1:i!!,. :hbu~a::ha;8h; ~!~ · ln~l~~~:~d t~:;t I sb)" while be wu goM , and that he told me ao , and that he didn ' t want to change bh podtlon, but that he wan under grut prenure to have me r u ignon acc9unt of the peopl11worrylng about the suecenion . So the President uked SU1 Rouruun whether he wouldn't COllie onr to ue 111e and put the aatter up i:.~~ ~~ :~~i~,~~;op~=~~~~~th:i~~~~ ~b.~jh~'1tdb~~!d i~~ uzy resignation it would lllake· the Pre~iden t very happ1 .
I told SliD. t hat I would have to think the uatbr over ~~c~~~~a~ ::~;t::-':.V r;!!t~:~ i!~' p~:;~~n!n: 1!e!~e u~r~~::o!~!ng
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~k~::~i~;~~~~:::~~~~E~ ·~ D~::i:id him that there wu no reason to teal uncO!l!or tabh , but I
:~!d t~~~: ;b~:~1~1~h~' 1~:1~:~~~ !:' .!!1tf r~h~ug~t ,~~~g~::! wu going to adjourn and not convene until Octobtl r becaute i! thatwere golng to happe n then Iwouldwtnt the Pruidentto und Vlntot.' s na:::e up at once because I wouldn' t want to etay thatlong. '
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Roeeruuan asked me what I had in mind for J:11Ulf, and
ftf! 1~c:~~!h~~Y:u ~~ ia~~{~~t1:~u~:niu~0T~~~~~.Ji!}~:ly ~~=~ r;lt~~t~~~ ~&'1~~!'!~ ~~~;~u s~~~ihi~f';Fth "}k~~t!~1:0oda ~: :~~~a 1a:.~~:~ i~~~Gf!t!~~u!d ~:u~;, i.i:1!r, ::~~ · ~ ~:r~ ~fv~;;:o~~{. ~~at t:,n•t ,~t t~~uiw;ah.:~n~~'~!!ii/~:!!ih~ ~~u~r 1;~: a~d'~~gn ·~!d;o:!~~~~ ~~~·~brr;:~~!n1~~ ~. ~lng,
I woul~h:;:: ~~tJti:: r~~~;!;l:~,. t:!;!~~ily~ t~:n h~ma!fd~ "I u:. going to ask you on your word of honor not to eend aey menage to Truman unleu he unda you a ceange uklng whether you saw 1:111 and whether youdld IUiythlng about it.• Roaell!llt.n said that he wouldn't.
I think that perba.pe with the worry and buetle o.( leaving, the President might htve been concerned about it, and wllen he
~= ~o~la~~~r: o h~;~~ ~g n~~o~~ i~~1~ ~~ t~~~u ~o!!is s ~:~:~:11::id hf!b~h:; ~:~\:~: ~:~k:r~! ~!· 11:dd I I a:a~g{nk1~!1~b~:~ tr.~ hll
I uked him it he lcnew what 'l'rUIIIan bad in mind when ha
:!~~ : t·~J~s~0 tf}~k :a~e a:::~:n~: ~~:~\~!aCmng~e:;~ehe aroWld hllll . " I asked hir4 alx!ut Byrnn and when he thought the Pruidcnt decided that, and Su said he thought that was decided the dny after Roosevelt'• funeral at Hyde Park . I uid , "Well , Trwr.an knows I don ' t like Byrnu and that I can ' t get along 11ith him beoauu I told hilll so ," and SIUII said, "I told hit! that, too.•
Then he said that it was only tht.t afternoon that they hsd pulled Vinson off the host. lie said, "\That th .. y had in 111ind , I don 't kno11 . • lie said that it didn't nke unse but they did it and that there ::mst have been sor4etbing in their clndbuthe didn ' tkno1111hatitwu .
Julyl3,1945:
Present: 0. W. Bell John Pehle Herbert Gaston Harry White
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ll,y ~:~eating with Judge Ronnman was very uth(l.ctory . 6~~~:gle .!l'It:!1dui ~Lo:~~i~~ !~u~:~t~o t~:t a:~~~!n~~~·~:!e other t me . He did say thlt O'Dwyer told hi& Uorris Ernet ~~: !~!:f~~ keep }Ira . Rc!ounlt !rom taking arcy part in
I showed hha ~ latter to the President , and he thought it wu ucelhnt. He firtt thought that u to the timing of my rellgnation, be •ould t11lke it a!ter Bretton Wnoda had c:·::~i~~~ ~:·~h:~. ·~dn~ ~~d~~~t t~; ~:,·:d t~~!~1~ i~:~.t ' =~~ta tb. U~o ~o~'}li~ · 1 ~a g:h:~ ~~.~~ld be ·ftan •t think that
'!'hen I showed hiiD the letter fro11. the President to ~:~e, end he thought that wu all right. Then I ahot~ed him the other ~~~~~~gf~~m0~h:8p~:!!~~~. t~: h; n:,dn~h~~:ln~ ~d:o 1 ~~ ;~r~la ~ectly clear- that this letter had nothing to do with the exehange of the othe r two letters, and that there were no str ing• tied to the other lettere .
He uid that he wGuld eable then letter• immedbtely to the Pruident and would read to =~ hie introduetory reurk1 before th11ty went .
th11t w~8~o-~e e=e t~~~~~t! · ~~til=~~:~·~Nor:es..:~ i'~!~1:!•~hether make it publie . ~ I told Sat:~ I thought he ough t to tell the Presiden t that it wu hie idea beeauae Rosell.IIIII.II told 1M that lt wu his idea and that the President hndn't sur.r.eated lt . S~.~:~ uld he would do that.
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SaJtuked•e 11hether I would11ant the aigned letters before
t~.~·:a:~~~~~~!~i~ :~~ !<~;·~ · _:~:~" 1h:!~1r~:a'i~~·~;::t~!nel '!"Den when th'l Pruldent OOlUI baekhe ean dgnhh lette r tome, and I will algnm:y latter to hi•.•
Pmld~~t h;:!~~!:dh:b::fd•u::~n§y~:a t~~~~d 1b!t~:;.~: ~d hellight dheourage the Pruident !rom acting on it. So I
:~~d~h:;:l~;r~!. i:ti:!. !e !o::l:. t!;,~odo::n~'te~~~~~l:!r "'7 bec•uae no JUtter where Byron ud the Pruident are , the
:~::~::'l!t~fhih~:k'~! \~ti· h::: i~o:J!a /":i!a:! '!1:d :=hi~~~t:n~t;e:o;:~i.UkSt~!:l~0~~:ther he want& to han
Tben Inid that'iintonwucolllingoverforlunoh, and I would like toahowh1~mtheu letters , andS&~~nid, •nne .•
;;~r~ ~.fltu wh~fn!o~:~~~e "i!1!p~~~!1~:~t~~ei~Ii0~1; ~~~ · y:~ t •nd I h&vt Ceen hlking thing• over , and before the letters fo
~~:r!:~~~t r!~~:~;~:~o ~:~ L!~~i: m:~;i?*k:~:~:~:~~::~::: •id cable th1t •11 three o! thue letters h1ve beer e~own to Vinaon
U:!t t::~1lhh~T:e:t1:~t~! h!:i:~:r:r~ · s:~e~e- s:~fc~8 I t~h~~~~t •u rathel' l'evea!ing.
' 1681
WI ciau ·Mr. Prtddt a\1
lb•n I wrote to you. on Jlll1' 6\b, tv.bdtU.na: r~i r'ltiptloa
11 georeta17 ot the '!'H;IIli'J, I ear .. d, et 7011• H~•t, to
rtul!l. 1a otlloe ~mtll JOill' Ntlll'll boa l:1U'ope.
I llan bun r;hllll: t1ll'th•• tholljEht to thi• utter,
and 110. take the llbnt7 ot tugGnt1ng that yow. rMq wl.ab to
rtooulder thh uraqe•at. SlAol JCN hnt no. ~~t.de 70111'
dtohlon 11 to rq noo•:•or, 1t Heat to - that the c!tlq n
oonttS.platecl 11 llO loqn ntllllll'f but, un tbl oabUJ,
~ pron a baadloap to J~p V1n1oa tor 'lllha. I haw• thl
b.la;llut adalratiOD. It h rq .. nut dull'• to blo ot ''"1'7 lllh\&1101 to hla in takiq OYer the grut l'll?onllbll1t111
ot tbh ottioe.
!>ucll Mtttl'l 11 thl o011.tlauat1~ ot ...,. llnanolJtc,
the tu tnlOI'OIIIInt clrlft, N'hnM ltghltt1on, uu1 IIIII¥ other
'!'HIIIli'J probl.• oall tor p~t deohlou. _. 1\IOOtllor
thollld bl &lno tbt opportunlty to ...U tbue 4eoh101U1, 11Dot
lt will blo- hh dllty to ou17 tbla ow.t.
fhl11 oonllderat1ou .,., ghta added weight bJ the
poniblllt7 ot 1 noeu ot tha ~eaatt, whlob. would dtlq
Judge V1ae011.'1 •onliraaU011..
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A•••.tlqlJ, I up tllat 7" .,.~.at IF, ... ,..., •t
, ... url1•tt eoaftal•••· ...t -.1r11 .,. "'1patl• ett••tlw
,,_ hb app1b.t.at Mil ...Ufl••tl•.
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p.e.,. .. ..,,
I he:n .11"• eU.tti ... ta.r~U-. to )'ev lettn of
1-.q vclq ~t I Ha4 t• tM a .... te ~41.td1' u. aoaiaat1• of .1M&:• llu• u S.er.tUJ of tM ,.,.. .. ..,...
, I ~ ilwlllui to t&"•• wUit. 1•• the.t for tbe ,.. .....
1n. .~.u .. lt ..ua 't. '"''"~ te tw ~h uU• ... lutod tf .a1Uq t .. 119' r.tva !POll I V'OJH'o
I aptr .. hte U'7 -h the flae .,h'lt ld boa ''""
of pa~l1• ntpoulbli.l~ 1a Sleh 1ft baw appro-olt.M th.h
· utter.
11th ptre-.d n;llPII••
168 4
o .. ,. B••rra 'lhlla . I full¥ appPallid• the reuou Dloh prc.ptd
JOll to Hdgn u S.oratarr of th• '!'riUIU'J, n•nrtbdau I wp.t
JOU to t.u oa a fvtber laporhat an1cm-nt tor •, )
The .Bretton Wooda hghlatlon will eooa be anaot~a .
tour _cozr.trlbution to the tor.uhtion o! th••• pi'Oponl•
an4 the .. gothtion of the A(n•••ntl hu bna OllbtaMilD&,
I now went JOll to UIWM the halt ot .u:J.ai th'?l work.
'11th that in alnd, I ~lu, with JOur cont~Dt, to n
JOU u the 1Mrlau Gournor of t ;e Pund aDd Bank oa thalr
uh.blhb.nt . I ful'tb<'lr hopt that the b.tnnatlonal Bank
fo r R.toon.truotlon and Denlopunt will c1edgnah JOU u lb
Pl'nldent.
• In the .. anUM, IIU.ch lJO~k 11111t bt dou preparato17 to
the actual utablhb.nt of t he rlllld and. Banlr. bJ tht end of
thh Jnr. I 1.111 oountlng on JOU to putloipah· in thne dh·
cuuiona , &Ad to gin ua the 'beattit of JOur olo" fu.iliultr
wlth tM .. pi'Obb ...
Wlwn I tip "the Bntton Wooda legl~btlon, I aholll.a lib
. . to anno~oa to tba pl&bllo that . I latlacl. 4nipatl.Di JOil "
': til• '-l'iou _oo~~· Pii.or ot tha ~Wl_a aaa tha a.:u:. Sl.D.oaralJ JOUI'I•
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1685 Julyl3 , 1945
had t.f~:~• t~1:0:b~:~d ~dt t~:th~e nid!!•:r ~~~u~~=~~S~!:ruun ~~~~~i~t=f~~*r:e ~~~i~~: . than wu origin&.lly planned ee.me ae
I CM 't r emember just what it Waa, but he gave me an opening t oaskhil'lthequntionaboutw1l,vhedldn ' twantto l e t floa ell!Wan ~end a cable nylng that h.,, Vinaon, eoncurred
~~;~~::r:·~~;~~~i~~!;:h~~r~~:~;:;!~~~Er:~~:1b!ating i;;~!~f~~ ;~~~· 1~~ 'ii!.~tt·~~~re~!d::~d~i~;l~~t t~ehlae Preddent might fed that he , Vin8on, wu in eolluaion with
=~~~t:~~:x~:~::::: s;~~i!:~8~i~~:~~~~i~~r: t:~~~~:!::!!t.::~~~mr:~:~th~a t~:!~~~ ~~~ . bv~i~~if/:.r~:~ i~f~~~~'t,~~~t 1
:~:;!:t:i;t;:t. ·r~:d t~:· T~~::~.~3° a!:?~:~n ~~a~~k~~·~o k~;body :~~tijh;o~r::;~r{h~1G~!;r~~r~!i fh~~!1 ~1tth:0~!fd~" very ·
He uked me what 1m1 plan~ ware , and I said that I would
!~!Y w~il~ e~~u~b·~~1!0~o!!d~he H!P:~~rt~a~~;1 ~~ld ~~~at;hau eonault "ith me , and I told him that I was ready any ti1:1~ and
~~£!~ ~~ ~~e~~:e~~·t~~. L~·~~~ t~~!sid:~~ ~::a s!~~t tl~~ ..-1 Vinson 1011 & going on the boat with him. Vinson said , "That is ript," and he ~aid that even hi s baggage h&d been sent ~lead ,
:~J\~ tch!~k~n!ltge~~:~da~:!~~i~:!a t!::~ he shouldn 't go ,
ItoldRosanm.e.nthattherewasrreatre3tlessnessaround
~li: ·~~ ! .. ~~t~~~=~ ~i~~drh~~r~e~J:~~ · D•~ ~!t;:t:~. "~~~n~i~ of taking another podtion , " and then he aid that he would shoot Dan Bell between th" eyes if he left him, and that he would l.llll:lediahly on his r eturn to the office call up Bell andukhimtocome over to see him. He said he thougbttbat
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w~ld be better than uelng Dan Bellin the t'reuury, and I. \ ~;~: r!:~!d I i!b;lt! :~ ~:: · • ~=~·hi:~ ~:g:;/i~!l~~~rly
Then I add, tha.t I auppond hia name would go up on
~:n!:{ .. :n!e ~h!t~!/~o!~~a ::~~d.~ .. o~i!!~~d P~~k·:;: • an'dd Iu.ldthatlthoughtheshouldbeoonfimedprDlilptlJ, but
~::~.~tt:o~~a ~-~oaH!b!:tio~h:; ~o sf:!tdl~~~!'!hP~!u~i:ae and~~=~ · I ~!~~dne!d ~h:t !.~U!~do!0 t:~:~ ~~~a 0{oii !!h• th&t that II&& all right . lf:a nld t hat he would be willin~ to
· ~:!tb~toiu~!iao{h!~i ~id~~~~~~~ ~{;at~aa!i~1t get pM ed
beetua!1~: 0~i~~~ ~:! :!! ~~=yp:~~~~t•:;;:_v:h~ hl:t!:~:naor ' ~ .. i~h~~~nfo t~~1 H!t ·~~ ~~.::~~·~t~irh!u!!! ~:~fi~:t fro~
lethrv~~~~~ .. ;;~: i~:~.R~::n:; ~!~~~::~~tb: ::1! 1~ ~~:n't think t h&t was 1 good idea bauuu it the President got the1:1
~~f·~~:r b~;s l:l!~~~g~: ·Tr!a:~~· .:~1~0i~~e •:n t~~:k;r 1i,"~~ it, it thePr nidentdecldes to offer it tome, Iwillheve to teke tlsetocare!ull:yconslderit .
I spolr:e tohhlaboutlfli/ annual report, and told him that I couldn ' t finish it foratlust a.•uk, and that it • ould cove r the lut 12 yurs and JUkli recomlilllndationa. He uid that •u ent1raly agreuble to him.
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