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IT Picked WHAT Computer?
Anna WoodRenderBay.com
Charles CulpSWtuts.com
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Comparison of Three Systems
Dell Optiplex Dell T7600 Dell T3610
Core i5-4570 (4 cores), 8 GB RAM
Dual Xeon E5-2650 (16 cores total), 32 GB RAM
Xeon E5-1620v2 (4 cores), 16GB RAM
Intel Integrated Video NVIDIA Quadro K5000 AMD FirePro W5000
500GB HDD 2TB HDD 256MB SSD
$699 $6,246.40 $1799 (without SSD)
Cheap, Expensive and Poorly Specified, and the Suggested System
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About Anna and Charles
• Design Engineer/CAD Admin for Auer Precision in Mesa, AZ
• RenderBay.com
Anna Wood
• Product Development Engineer/CAD Admin at Essex Industries in St Louis, MO
• Designs ergonomic pilot controls• SWtuts.com
Charles Culp
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Goals for Today
• Understand which components are important for a CAD Workstation• Understand the enhancements in recent technology• Understand which components provide the best value• Compare a poorly built workstation with a good workstation• Provide a list of good available systems, and a custom system• Feel free to ask questions at any time
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Thank You
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Thank You
Thank you also to Bill McEachern for providing the flow simulation benchmark, and Russ Johnston for providing the V3 Simulation benchmark
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CPU
• It is all about Intel• Tom’s Hardware compares single
core operations• Passmark now has a single thread
benchmark: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
• Both show blowouts in favor of Intel
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Intel
• Today’s systems have Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell CPUs. These also known as 2nd, 3rd, or 4th generation Core i5 or Core i7 processors. These are the E3 or E5 series in the Xeon line, with v2, v3, or v4 at the end of the name.
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How Many Cores?
• Two is enough for modeling, but four doesn’t hurt
• Four is enough for occasional FEA, there is a new solver in SolidWorks 2014 (Large Problem Direct Sparse Solver) that uses more than four cores
• For rendering, the more the merrier
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CPU Benchmarks
• Modeling Benchmark:
http://www.solidmuse.com/benchmarks/solidworks-benchmark-punch-holder/
• FEA Benchmark (V3):https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/63854
• Simulation Benchmark:
http://www.swtuts.com/?p=700
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Typical Core 2 Duo
(E8500)
Xeon E5-2620, Dual
Socket
Xeon X5650,
Dual Socket
Core i5-4570 @ 3.2
GHz
Core i7-2600 @ 3.4
GHz
Xeon X5690,
Dual Socket
Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Xeon E5-2680 v2,
Dual Socket
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz
Core i7-3970X @ 4.75 GHz
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10
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30
40
50
60
70
100 68.2758.56 56.17 53.32 52.61 48.52 43.91 42.23
36.03
Punchholder Rebuild Time (in seconds, lower is better)
Best CPU for Modeling
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• This graph does not represent true value
$360 x 2, Xeon E5-
2620, Dual Socket
$620 x 2, Xeon X5650, Dual Socket
Core i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz
Core i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
$1260 x 2, Xeon X5690, Dual Socket
Core i7-2600K @ 3.4
GHz
$1600 x 2, Xeon E5-2680
v2, Dual Socket
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3
GHz
0123456789
10
2.03 1.38
9.22
6.27
0.75
7.06
0.71
7.29
100,000 * (1/Punchholder Rebuild Time) / $ (higher is better)
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ksBest CPU Value for Modeling
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Core i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz
Xeon X5650,
Dual Socket
Xeon X5690,
Dual Socket
Core i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Xeon E5-2620, Dual
Socket
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz
Xeon E5-2680 v2,
Dual Socket
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100
200
300
400
500
600
700
800
7 13 10 9 8 15 6 9
740 722 722 708 695567 539 457
FEA Benchmark (in seconds, lower is better)
Mesh Time Solution Time
Best CPU for SolidWorks Simulation
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Xeon X5650,
Dual Socket
Xeon E5-2620, Dual
Socket
Core i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
Xeon X5690,
Dual Socket
Core i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz
Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Xeon E5-2680 v2,
Dual Socket
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz
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100
120
9 9 3 5 4 4 6 3
101 10095 91 86 84 72 72
Flow Simulation Benchmark (in seconds, lower is better)
Mesh Time Solution Time
Best CPU for Flow Simulation
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Core i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Core i5-4570 @ 3.2 GHz
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz
Xeon E5-2620, Dual
Socket
Xeon X5650,
Dual Socket
Xeon X5690,
Dual Socket
Xeon E5-2680 v2,
Dual Socket
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120
180
240
300
360 322 315.7 302.3
199.9 190.6168.6
144.6
90.4
Rendering Benchmark (in seconds, lower is better)
With Hyperthreading
Best CPU for Rendering
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• How much is enough• Frame rates and user experience• What requires expensive video cards• Changes to SolidWorks 2014• Benchmarks:
• Die Assembly• Press Assembly• Engine Assembly• Cinebench R15
Video Cards
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AMD FirePro NVIDIA Quadro• V3900
• V4900
• V5900
• V7900
• W5000
• W7000
• W8000
• W9000
• Quadro K600
• Quadro K2000
• Quadro K4000
• Quadro K5000
• Quadro K6000
V4900 $155
W5000$440
W7000$800
Q K2000$430
Q K4000$800
Q K5000$1800
Video CardsIntel Integrated
• HD P4700 (E3-1285v3)HD P4600 (E3-1275v3, E3-1245v3)
• HD P4000 (E3-1245v2, 1275v2)
• Quadro 600
• Quadro 2000
• Quadro 4000
• Quadro 5000
• Quadro 6000
Q K600$161
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Video Card TestingVideo Card Testing on a Boxx 4150XT, Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 Ghz 16 Gigs RAM, Intel 530 SSD Quadro Driver 320.78 AMD Driver 13.15.2.4
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Die Assembly w/AO, Shadows Die Assembly no Effects0
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70
Die Assembly (in FPS, higher is better)
Q 2000 Q 4000 Q K5000 F V4900 F W5000 F W7000
Video Cards, SolidWorks 2013
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Die Assembly w/AO, Shadows Die Assembly with Realview Die Assembly no Effects0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
Die Assembly (in FPS, higher is better)
Q 600 Q 2000 Q 4000 Q 5000 Q K600Q K2000 Q K5000 F V4900 F W5000 F W7000
Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2
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Press Assembly w/AO, Shadows Press Assembly with Realview Press Assembly no Effects0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
Press Assembly (in FPS, higher is better)
Q 600 Q 2000 Q 4000 Q 5000 Q K600Q K2000 Q K5000 F V4900 F W5000 F W7000
Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2
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Engine Assembly w/AO, Shadows Engine Assembly with Realview Engine Assembly no Effects0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
Engine Assembly (in FPS, higher is better)
Q 600 Q 2000 Q 4000 Q 5000 Q K600Q K2000 Q K5000 F V4900 F W5000 F W7000
Video Cards, SolidWorks 2014 SP2
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Cinebench R150
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160
Cinebench R15 (in FPS, higher is better)
Q 600 Q 2000 Q 4000 Q 5000 Q K600Q K2000 Q K5000 F V4900 F W5000 F W7000
Video Cards, Cinebench R15
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• SSDs create a significant improvement over HDD, 85% depending on usage
• Which brand SSDs are the best? Don’t worry about it too much, that is only a 25% gain
• Intel is used by pro’s for high reliability• “SSD’s fail early” is a myth. As a whole they are as
reliable, and maybe more reliable, than HDD when used in desktop machines
• http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-reliability-failure-rate,2923.html
SSD & HDD Overview
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HD SSD0
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Die Assembly
SSD & HDD Overview
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Comparison of Three Systems
Dell Optiplex Dell T7600 Dell T3610
Core i5-4570 (4 cores), 8 GB RAM
Dual Xeon E5-2650 (16 cores total), 32 GB RAM
Xeon E5-1620v2 (4 cores), 16GB RAM
Intel Integrated Video NVIDIA Quadro K5000 AMD FirePro W5000
500GB HDD 2TB HDD 256MB SSD
$699 $6,246.40 $1799 (without SSD)
Cheap, Expensive and Poorly Specified, and the Suggested System
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DIY vs Prebuilt vs Premium
DIY – General Modeling Prebuilt Premium
$907.65 $1799-2271 $2196-3208 and up
Parts Warranty (varies) 3 year warranty 3 year warranty
No guarantee on component compatibility
No compatibility concerns
No compatibility risk
Perfectly tuned to your performance needs
Limited offerings for components
Overclocking means ~35% speed increase
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DIY SystemCPU Core i7-4770 3.4-3.9 GHz Microcenter $249.99 Link
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 Amazon $84.99 Link
Memory 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix Amazon $134.95 Link
Primary Disk SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB Amazon $164.62 Link
Video Card AMD FirePro V4900 Amazon $155.98 Link
DVD LG 24X Amazon $22.14 Link
Power Supply Seasonic G-Series 360W Amazon $54.99 Link
Case CFI - USB 3.0 on front Amazon $39.99 Link
$907.65
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Prebuilt Options
Dell T3610/T3600 HP Z230 SFF Lenovo E32
$1799 $2271 $2249
Xeon E5-1620v2 3.7 GHz Xeon E3-1240v3 3.4GHz Xeon E3-1240v3 3.4GHz
16 GB ECC 16 GB Non-ECC 16 GB ECC
1TB 7,200 HDD (eek) 128 GB SSD 256 GB SSD
AMD FirePro W5000 NVIDIA K600 NVIDIA K600
What happened to the Dell T1700?
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Prebuilt Disclaimer Page
• Everything was priced on January 20th, 2014. I included all discounts and sales at that time.
• Prices for all prebuilt systems include Windows 7 Professional. This is approximately a $140 for purchasing the OEM version of Windows 7 on the open market.
• The price difference between the Dell and the HP and Lenovo is likely due to the lack of an SSD drive.
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Premium Option - Boxx
Boxx 4150 Xtreme Boxx 4920 Xtreme
$3208 $4815
Core i7-4770K @ 4.3 GHz 6-Core; Core i7-3970X @ 4.5 GHz
16 GB RAM 16 GB RAM
180 GB SSD 180 GB SSD
NVIDIA Quadro K600 NVIDIA Quadro K600
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Premium Options - @Xi Computer
Mtower – Custom Build
$2196.18 http://www.xicomputer.com/products/quote/printQuote.asp?configid=306707
Intel® Core™ i7-4770K @ 4.3GHz Hi-Perf. Sealed Water Cooling
3 Years System HW Warranty w/Express Advance Parts Replacement
16GB DDR3 1866MHz Xi® MTower™ CM-HAF 922 Case
AMD® FirePro™ W5000 ASUS® Z87-C Motherboard
250GB Solid State Drive Samsung® 840 EVO Windows 7 Professional
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Conclusions
• CPU is King. • More cores do not decrease rebuild times• That means processor design & speed are
important• RAM is a matter of how much is enough• SSD prices have plummeted, buy one• Homebuilt systems add versatility• Overclocked systems mean faster SolidWorks
modeling
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More Questions?
• http://www.swtuts.com/?p=700• https://forum.solidworks.com/community/administration?vie
w=discussions
• Tom’s Hardware, AnandTech, c|net• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)