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CAPTIONINGDECEMBER 3, 2013

METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION

***This is not an official, verbatim transcript of the ***following meeting. It should be used for informational ***purposes only. This document has not been edited; ***therefore, there may be additions, deletions, or words ***that did not translate.

>>MARK SHARPE: [INAUDIBLE] AND WE'RE HERE WITH YOUR

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY METROPOLITAN PLANNING

ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE AND PRAYER BY

COMMISSIONER MILLER.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

>>LES MILLER, JR.: OUR GRACIOUS AND HEAVENLY FATHER,

WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU ALLOWED US TO COME OUT

TODAY TO MAKE DECISIONS TO MAKE THIS COUNTY A BETTER

PLACE FOR US TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.

BE WITH US AS WE MAKE THESE DELIBERATIONS THAT WE CAN

DO THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE THAT WE REPRESENT.

AND FATHER, WHEN WE LEAVE THIS PLACE, WE ASK THAT YOU

TAKE US BACK TO OUR HOMES TO FIND EVERYTHING SAFE AND

SOUND.

THESE AND ALL BLESSINGS WE ASK IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MILLER.

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WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. DAVID HEY.

WELCOME, SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.

DAVID HEY, 10821 KENSINGTON PARK AVENUE IN RIVERVIEW.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ST. CHARLES PLACE HOMEOWNERS

ASSOCIATION.

I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A CONCERN THAT OUR

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS REGARDING AN EVENT THAT

OCCURRED IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 7th.

OUR RESIDENT, LUCIENE FETHERE WAS CROSSING THE STREET

AT 3:00 TO GO OVER TO THE SWEETBAY SUPERMARKET ACROSS

THE STREET, RIGHT OVER HERE.

SHE LIVED ACROSS THE STREET IN OUR COMMUNITY IN

ST. CHARLES PLACE.

AT 3:00 SHE WAS IN THE CROSSWALK ON 301 WHEN SHE WAS

HIT AND KILLED BY A VAN THAT WAS MAKING A LEFT OUT OF

ST. CHARLES PLACE TO GO SOUTH ONTO 301.

IN -- IN RESPONSE TO THAT EVENT, OUR BOARD ON

OCTOBER 22nd, THE ST. CHARLES PLACE HOA, VOTED TO

DRAFT A LETTER, WHICH WAS, I THINK, PASSED OUT TO YOU

EARLIER TODAY, REGARDING OUR CONCERN ABOUT HOW THE

INTERSECTION HAS BEEN DESIGNED.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE ON

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THE NORTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, APPROXIMATELY 250

UNITS, I BELIEVE, ARE TO THE NORTH OF THE

INTERSECTION.

FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ACCESS THE SWEETBAY, THEY

ACTUALLY HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET THREE TIMES INSTEAD

OF ONCE, AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT

LED TO THE DEATH OF MS. FETHERE, THAT SHE WAS IN THE

SOUTH SIDE WHEN IF THE CROSSWALK WAS ACTUALLY ON THE

NORTH SIDE, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY HIT AND

KILLED, AND IT JUST SEEMS UNSAFE TO HAVE PEOPLE

CROSSING THREE TIMES WHEN THEY CAN CROSS ONCE.

IN ADDITION, WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AS A

COMMUNITY, WE STARTED JUST LOOKING AROUND IN THE

GENERAL AREA JUST TO SEE IS THIS -- IS THIS UNIQUE

TO -- TO THAT INTERSECTION, AND JUST WITHIN -- WE WENT

ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW AND JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT

SOME INTERSECTIONS AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN

RIVERVIEW, AND WE FOUND A FEW JUST WITHIN TEN MINUTES.

U.S. HIGHWAY 301 AND BALM-RIVERVIEW ROAD, YOU CAN SEE

IT'S MISSING A CROSSWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IF YOU GO TO DUNCAN ROAD AND KRYCUL AVENUE, WHERE THE

FRED'S IS, WHICH IS VERY GOOD, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S

MISSING THE CROSSWALK THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 301,

SO YOU -- TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE TO CROSS THREE TIMES

AGAIN IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GET TO FRED'S.

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AND THEN FINALLY, ON GIBSONTON DRIVE, RIGHT NEAR THE

RUBY TUESDAY'S -- I USE RESTAURANTS AS REFERENCE

POINTS -- YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO NEW INTERSECTIONS WERE

DONE, AND THEY'RE LACKING CROSSWALKS ON ALL FOUR SIDES

ALSO, SO IT -- IT SEEMS TO BE A CONCERN, AND I KNOW

OUR BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON OCTOBER 22nd TO DRAFT

THAT LETTER AND HOPEFULLY WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND

FDOT AND ALL OF THEM TO GET US CROSSWALKS AND PROPERLY

DESIGNED INTERSECTIONS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, MR. HEY.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO STATE?

ARE YOU --

>> NO, JUST THAT WE WOULD -- WE WOULD LIKE OUR

CROSSWALKS AND ALL INTERSECTIONS, BASICALLY THE

FOUR -- YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A FOUR-WAY CROSS

INTERSECTION, IT SHOULD HAVE FOUR CROSSWALKS ON IT SO

PEOPLE DON'T -- AREN'T FORCED TO CROSS THREE TIMES.

THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A DANGER, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DAVID, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.

I KNOW THAT WITH THE JUST ADDED TRAFFIC OVER THE YEARS

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FROM THE GROWTH, IT'S CREATED A LOT OF ISSUES ALONG

301 AND THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO

DO, MR. CHAIR, SINCE YOU'RE ALSO CHAIR OF OUR

COMMISSION, IS -- IF YOU CAN COME BACK TOMORROW TO OUR

COMMISSION MEETING IN PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE SAME

DOCUMENT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OTHERWISE, I'LL BRING IT UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS

TOMORROW TO HAVE OUR COUNTY STAFF SIT DOWN WITH YOU

AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TO WORK ON A PLAN.

>>MARK SHARPE: SUPERB.

WOULD YOU -- THANK YOU.

>> YES.

I BELIEVE I CAN BE THERE TOMORROW MORNING.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: YEAH.

SIGN UP AT 9:00.

>> YES.

THANK YOU.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, MR. HEY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: OUR NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS MS. LENA

YOUNG GREEN.

WELCOME MS. YOUNG -- OR MS. GREEN.

>> GOOD MORNING.

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THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SAY A

FEW WORDS TO YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO COME AND THANK YOU TODAY FOR HELPING

US, THE GREEN ARTERY AND THE GREEN ARTERY EFFORT,

WHICH IS A COMMUNITY-DRIVEN EFFORT, TO HELP US TO MOVE

TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

I THINK WE HAVE ACHIEVED WAY MORE THIS YEAR THAN WE

THOUGHT WE WOULD, AND WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW HOW

MUCH WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US AND THE

SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE SHOWN FOR US.

NEXT YEAR WE'RE PLANNING TO INCREASE OUR ACTIVITIES

WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, GET MORE ENGAGED WITH THE

MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER MILLER AND COUNCILWOMAN

LISA -- LISA MONTELIONE PASSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

THAT NOW GIVES STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH US TO

HELP DO THE PRIORITIZING.

WE HAVE USF STUDENTS AND DR. STROM, WHO HAS HER

STUDENTS READY TO COME AND WORK WITH THE STAFF,

PRIORITIZE.

NEXT YEAR WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO EACH OF THE

NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN AND HELP THEM TO BECOME MORE

EDUCATED ABOUT THE GREEN ARTERY, MORE EDUCATED ABOUT

SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE SAFETY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR EFFORT FOR US.

ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO WORK MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH THE

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GOVERNMENT AND WITH THE QUASI-GOVERNMENT ENTITIES --

ENTITIES.

SO, BASICALLY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU TO HELP US

TO -- WITH -- WORK WITH THE STAFF TO COMPLETE A PLAN

THAT WE COULD USE AS A GUIDE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DO

WITHIN THE GREEN ARTERY RATHER THAN TAKING OUT PIECES

AND TAKING IT APART BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO THAT

PLACE.

SO, BASICALLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I WISH YOU ALL

THE BEST FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS, MS. ALDEN.

>>BETH ALDEN: GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING?

OUR -- OUR COMMITTEES HAVE ALL APPROVED THEIR

CALENDARS FOR NEXT YEAR, AND CAC AND TAC HAVE

SUPPORTED SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

PLAN THIS MORNING THAT WE'RE -- WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE

ASKING FOR YOU TO OPEN A 45-DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD

ON THOSE AMENDMENTS, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AT

THE END OF THAT PERIOD WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND A

FULL BRIEFING ON THOSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN

AMENDMENTS.

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ALSO, A FOLLOW-UP ITEM THIS MORNING FROM A PREVIOUS

DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION OF

ROADS.

THE TAC LOOKED AT THE COORDINATION THAT'S GONE ON

BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND HAS

SUPPORTED THE REVISED PROPOSAL.

OUR COMMITTEES SPENT SOME TIME THIS PAST MONTH LOOKING

AT THE GOALS FOR THE UPDATE OF THE LONG-RANGE

TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND GENERALLY HAVE SUPPORTED

LOOKING AT COST-EFFECTIVENESS IN PROJECTS, A GREATER

FOCUS ON ECONOMICS, AND LOOKING AT HOW TECHNOLOGY

ADVANCES MIGHT BE CONSIDERED IN THE LONG-RANGE

TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE.

AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE HIGHLIGHTS.

THERE'S SOME DETAILS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

BUT LASTLY, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF A

GENTLEMAN WHO YOU USED TO SEE GIVING THIS COMMITTEE

REPORT FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE, AND THAT'S JOE

AMON, WHO PASSED AWAY THIS PAST WEEK, FORMER CHAIR OF

OUR CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND I JUST WANTED TO

ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT HE DID FOR THIS

ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: BETH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JOE -- I'M SURE OTHERS WILL PROBABLY WANT TO SPEAK TO

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MR. AMON -- BUT HAS BEEN AT ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, WAS A

DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT, COMMITTED PASSIONATELY TO

THE COMMITTEES THAT HE SERVED, AND SERVED RIGHT UP TO

THE VERY END, AND IT'S A GREAT LOSS, REALLY SAD TO

HEAR THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR -- FOR BRINGING YOUR

PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO TO MR. GORMLY --YOU'VE GOT IT,

SIR -- FOR THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

>>ADAM GORMLY: YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT.

TODAY WE'LL BE ELECTING A VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR OF THE

POLICY -- EXCUSE ME -- OF THE MPO.

THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO NOMINATE

POTENTIAL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR FIRST, THEN

THE VICE CHAIR.

AT THE CLOSE OF NOMINATIONS, THERE'LL BE A VOTE ON THE

PERSONS NOMINATED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE NOMINATED,

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR

CHAIRMAN.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER SHARPE FOR

CHAIR.

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND.

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>>ADAM GORMLY: COMMISSIONER SHARPE.

>>MARK SHARPE: I'M HONORED.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: MY REELECTION COMMITTEE WORKED VERY

HARD WITH A LOT OF TV ADS.

[LAUGHTER]

I'M HONORED.

THANK YOU.

>>ADAM GORMLY: ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?

WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON COMMISSIONER SHARPE JUST FOR

PROCESS.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>> SECOND.

>>ADAM GORMLY: AND LET'S TAKE A VOTE JUST FOR

PROCESS, PLEASE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- I'M SORRY -- TO -- I'M LOOKING

TO MR. --

>>MARK SHARPE: I'M NOT CHAIR YET.

>>ADAM GORMLY:  -- OF COMMISSIONER SHARPE TO SERVE AS

CHAIRMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

THOSE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

NEXT --

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>>MARK SHARPE: NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE VICE

CHAIR.

NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.

>>HARRY COHEN: COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>> SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS?

WE CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS.

OKAY.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

YOU'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC VICE CHAIR.

SHE SHOWS UP AT EVERY MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>ADAM GORMLY: MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER

ITEMS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED --

>>MARK SHARPE: OH, ABSOLUTELY.

>>ADAM GORMLY: -- TODAY.

THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED COORDINATING BOARD

AND LIVABLE ROADWAYS COMMITTEE CURRENTLY HAVE CHAIRS

WHO CAN SERVE IF THEY'RE SO WILLING UNTIL THEIR TERM

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EXPIRES.

I'M -- COUNCILMAN COHEN IS THE CHAIR OF THE

TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED COORDINATING BOARD AND

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE IS THE CHAIR OF THE LIVABLE

ROADWAYS COMMITTEE.

THE RULES PROVIDE THAT THEY WOULD SERVE UNTIL THEIR

TERM IS UP, UNLESS REPLACED, SO UNLESS THERE IS ANY

ACTION OR DESIRE FOR A CHANGE, THOSE POSITIONS CAN

REMAIN.

IF NOT, THE LAST ITEM IS FOR APPOINTMENTS TO THE

POLICY COMMITTEE.

THE RULES PROVIDE FOR AT LEAST FIVE MEMBERS TO BE

APPOINTED.

ALL THOSE MEMBERS WHO REQUEST TO BE APPOINTED WOULD BE

APPOINTED AT THIS TIME TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE.

SO AT THIS TIME, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO --

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE START TO OUR RIGHT AND WE'LL WORK OUR WAY

TO THE LEFT.

THOSE WHO WOULD PREFER -- WHO WOULD HOPE TO BE ON THE

POLICY COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MILLER, COMMISSIONER LOTT, DR. POLZIN,

COMMISSIONER MURMAN, COUNCILMAN COHEN, AND

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

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THAT WOULD BE YOUR POLICY COMMITTEE.

>>ADAM GORMLY: COMMISSIONER MILLER, LOTT, POLZIN,

MURMAN, COHEN, MONTELIONE, SIX MEMBERS?

>>MARK SHARPE: AND DR. POLZIN.

>>ADAM GORMLY: I'M SORRY, POLZIN.

OKAY.

TAKE A VOTE ON THOSE SIX MEMBERS, IF YOU WOULD.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

CAN WE GET A MOTION.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

>>ADAM GORMLY: THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES THE APPOINTMENTS.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CONSENT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: MOVE TO APPROVE.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

WE'VE GOT -- AND ONE OF THE -- JUST FOR -- TO MAKE YOU

AWARE, ON ITEM "C," THE COMMITTEE MEMBER APPOINTMENT,

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WE'VE UPDATED THAT LIST.

ON THE VERY BACK END THERE'S A REFERENCE TO THE

BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND TWO MEMBERS

THAT ARE BEING NOMINATED FOR THAT.

SO IF WE CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: MOVE TO APPROVE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

MURMAN, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

WE'LL GO TO OUR ACTION ITEMS, OUR FIRST ONE PRESENTED

BY MR. BLAIN ON THE URBANIZATION AREA AND THE

FUNCTIONAL CLASS OF ROADS.

>>WALLY BLAIN: GOOD MORNING.

WALLY BLAIN, MPO STAFF.

WHILE IT'S NOT A VERY LARGE MAP, I DO HAVE A MAP IN

FRONT OF YOU OF WHAT THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PORTION

OF THE URBANIZED AREA MAP LOOKS LIKE.

I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT.

THE URBANIZED AREA BOUNDARY IS ONE PART OF THIS MAP.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT MAP IS THE FUNCTIONAL

CLASSIFICATION OF ROADWAYS FOR FEDERAL AND STATE

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PLANNING PURPOSES.

THE URBAN BOUNDARY IS BASED ON THE CENSUS DESIGNATION

THAT WAS DONE IN 2010 WHERE POPULATION EXISTS.

IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE THAT'S DONE BASED ON THE

CENSUS, AND IT'S BASED ON -- FOR FEDERAL FORMULAS ON

POPULATION.

THIS IS A BOUNDARY THAT WE'VE PRESENTED BACK TO THE

BOARD BACK IN JANUARY IN THE BEGINNING OF DEVELOPING

THIS MAP.

THE FEDERAL FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION, THEN, IS A

BASIS THAT'S KIND OF BUILT UPON THE EVALUATION OF THE

URBANIZED AREA.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE EVERY TEN YEARS WITH THE

CENSUS UPDATE, BUT IT'S ALSO AN ELEMENT THAT IS -- CAN

BE AMENDED AS NEEDED AS FUNCTIONALITY OF ROADWAYS

CHANGES, NEW ROADWAYS ARE ADDED, AS THE PLANNING TAKES

PLACE.

THAT IS A STATE-LED EFFORT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION HAS LED AND COORDINATED THROUGH THE MPO

WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND IT DOES ESTABLISH THAT

HIERARCHY OF ROADS BASED ON 12 CRITERIA THAT ARE

ARTERIALS, COLLECTORS, AND THEN THE IDENTIFICATION OF

THE ADDITIONAL ROADS THAT WOULD BE THE LOCAL ROADWAYS

THAT ARE REGULATED AND GOVERNED THROUGH LOCAL POLICY.

THE ONE THING TO POINT OUT AND NOTE IS THE DESIGNATION

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OF THE ROADWAYS ON THE FEDERAL MAP DOESN'T PRECLUDE

THE DESIGNATION BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGH THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS IN THE STATE OF

FLORIDA, SO ANY KIND OF REGULATORY ACTIONS ON ROADWAYS

LIKE SPEED LIMITS, SIGNAGE, BILLBOARDS, THOSE KIND OF

THINGS CAN BE GOVERNED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AS WELL.

SO CHANGES OVERALL IN THE SYSTEM SINCE 2000 TO 2010, A

NEW CLASSIFICATION WAS ADDED FOR EXPRESSWAY PRINCIPAL

ARTERIALS IN THE RURAL AREA.

IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE

DESIGNATIONS ADDED TO THE MAP, BUT ONE DESIGNATION

THAT DOES AFFECT US IS ALL OF OUR URBAN COLLECTORS

WERE SPLIT AND DESIGNATED NOW AS MAJOR AND MINOR

COLLECTORS, SO THAT DID HAVE AN EFFECT ON HOW WE

EVALUATED THE COLLECTOR ROADWAYS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY

AND MADE THOSE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN MAJOR COLLECTORS

AND MINOR COLLECTORS.

SO WE DID GO THROUGH THAT UPDATE OF SPLITTING OUT THAT

DESIGNATION.

THERE ARE REALIGNMENT OF THREE ROADWAYS, ONE WAS

TOBACCO ROAD THAT WAS AFFECTED BY THE SUNCOAST PARKWAY

CONSTRUCTION.

THE OTHER TWO WERE AFFECTED BY THE WIDENING OF I-4 IN

THE LAST DECADE, AND THAT IS COLUMBUS DRIVE AND SLIGH

AVENUE OVER EAST OF U.S. 301.

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SO THOSE CHANGES TAKE PLACE.

IN TOTAL THERE WERE 78 ADDITION OF ROADWAY SEGMENTS,

AND SOMETIMES THOSE WERE THE SAME ROADWAY IN THREE

DIFFERENT SEGMENTS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE MAP, AND

THEN THERE WERE 29 CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ON ROADWAYS

ON THE MAP.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE COLLECTORS THAT WERE

CHANGED TO ARTERIALS BECAUSE THEIR FUNCTION HAS

CHANGED OVER TIME.

SOME OF THOSE WERE REMOVALS AS WELL, SO WE HAD SOME.

SPECIFICALLY THERE WAS AN ERROR ON THE MAP FROM 109th

AVENUE THAT WAS SHOWN THAT WOULD CONNECT UNDER OR

ACROSS 275, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EXISTS, SO

WE DID MAKE A CHANGE ON THE MAP TO TAKE CARE OF THAT

ERROR.

THIS WAS A REGIONAL PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE THREE-

COUNTY URBANIZED AREA THAT COVERS HILLSBOROUGH, POLK

AND PINELLAS, SO WE DID COORDINATE WITH THOSE OTHER

COUNTIES AS WELL.

WHEN WE TOOK THIS THROUGH COMMITTEES BACK IN I WANT TO

THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER, WE HAD SOME CONCERN RAISED AT

THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE WERE

SOME INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S LOCAL

MAP, THE WAY THAT TAMPA HAD DESIGNATED SOME ROADWAYS

AND THE WAY THAT THE FEDERAL MAP WAS SILENT ON THOSE

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ROADWAYS, SO WE DID GO THROUGH THAT COORDINATION.

THAT ALSO WENT TO THE POLICY COMMIT WITH SOME

DIRECTION.

WE KIND OF BROUGHT THAT TO THE MPO, THEN, IN

NOVEMBER -- I'M SORRY -- IN OCTOBER TO SEEK SOME

GUIDANCE AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE WERE ON THE

PROCESS.

WE DID MEET WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE DEPARTMENT

OF TRANSPORTATION STAFF ON OCTOBER THE 7th, WORKED

THROUGH AND RESOLVED THOSE ISSUES, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN

ADDED TO THE MAP.

THAT MAP, THEN, WAS SENT OFF TO TALLAHASSEE FOR THE

CENTRAL OFFICE TO REVIEW AS WELL AS FEDERAL HIGHWAY

ADMINISTRATION.

THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY APPROVAL ON THAT MAP, AND SO

THAT'S THE MAP THAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO YOU THAT

REFLECTS THOSE CHANGES AND ADDITIONS.

AND BECAUSE THIS IS A SERIES OF MAPS FOR THE URBANIZED

AREA -- WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY MAP, BUT THERE IS A SERIES OF SIX

MAPS THAT WOULD COVER THE ENTIRE URBANIZED AREA OF

HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS, AND PASCO COUNTY.

ONE THING I NEED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IS I DID RECEIVE

A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY FROM A CITIZEN IN THE DANA

SHORES AREA THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DANA SHORES DRIVE

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BEING ADDED AS A MINOR COLLECTOR AS WELL AS THE

PORTION OF GEORGE ROAD THAT WAS BEING ADDED FROM

INDEPENDENCE DOWN DANA SHORE AS A MINOR COLLECTOR.

THAT -- THAT IS AN ADDITION THAT WE ADDED TO THE MAP

TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA

DESIGNATES THAT ROADWAY TODAY.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND WHAT

DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE FEDERAL PLANNING MAP?

WHAT IT MEANS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IS THE ROADWAY IS NOT

EVALUATED OR LOOKED AT ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN IT

CURRENTLY IS BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, SO THAT DOESN'T

CHANGE HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD EVALUATE THAT

ROADWAY.

TWO OF THE SPECIFIC CONCERNS WERE DOES THIS

DESIGNATION CHANGE SPEED LIMIT, AND SO THE ANSWER TO

THAT IS NO, BECAUSE THE ROADWAY'S DESIGNED FOR THE

SPEED LIMIT THAT IT IS, AND THIS DESIGNATION ON THE

MAP DOESN'T, AGAIN, GOVERN LOCAL POLICY.

THE SECOND ISSUE DEALT WITH THE ABILITY TO INSTALL

NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CONTROL OR CONTROLLING DEVICES

AND THINGS THAT WOULD SLOW AND CALM THE TRAFFIC

THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND, AGAIN, THAT IS A

FUNCTION OF THE LOCAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO I DIRECTED THAT PERSON TO THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF

AND WILL COORDINATE WITH THEM.

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IN RECOGNIZING THAT DANA SHORES KIND OF BORDERS CITY

OF TAMPA AND THE COUNTY, WE'LL WORK WITH THE

APPROPRIATE CITY AND COUNTY STAFF TO RESOLVE THAT

ISSUE, AND THAT MAY BE -- AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT

EARLIER THE ABILITY TO AMEND THE MAP AT ANY POINT IN

TIME.

AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE, THAT MAY

BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK AS AN AMENDMENT THAT'S

NEEDED AT A LATER DATE.

SO THE ACTION TODAY IS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE

BOARD WOULD ENDORSE THE MAP AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN

TO SIGN THIS SERIES OF MAPS ALONG WITH THE CHAIRMAN

FROM THE PINELLAS -- YOU'RE NOT AUTHORIZING THIS, BUT

THE MAP WOULD BE SIGNED BY THE PINELLAS AND PASCO

CHAIRMAN AS WELL, AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU, MR. BLAIN.

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU, MR. BLAIN.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF ON

THOSE DISCREPANCIES AND GETTING EVERYTHING IRONED OUT.

CAN YOU -- BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, SOME PEOPLE ARE

WATCHING AND HAVE CONCERNS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT

PROMPTED THE PHONE CALL.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THIS CHANGE DOES DO, BECAUSE

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YOU MENTIONED A FEW THINGS THAT IT WON'T DO --

>>WALLY BLAIN: SURE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: -- BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THOSE

WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING OR INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC WHAT

IT DOES MEAN.

>>WALLY BLAIN: SO FOR -- THE PURPOSE OF THE MAP IS

REALLY FOR PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, AND SO ONE

OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS IS THE

NATIONAL HIGHWAY PERFORMANCE PROGRAM WHERE THINGS ARE

LOOKED AT LIKE CONGESTION LEVELS, TRAFFIC VOLUMES,

CONDITIONS OF ROADWAYS, AND SO NOW THE ROADWAYS THAT

HAVE BEEN ADDED AS COLLECTORS BECOME PART OF THAT

PERFORMANCE MONITORING SYSTEM.

THERE'S ALSO FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE

TO ROADWAYS THAT ARE ADDED TO THOSE, AND SO ONE OF

THOSE IS -- WE TALK ABOUT THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION

PROGRAM, LOOKING AT ROADWAYS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR

FEDERAL AID IS BASED ON THE DESIGNATION ON THIS MAP,

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO EMERGENCY FUNDING PROGRAMS, AND

ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S MOST KNOWN WOULD BE FEMA, THE

FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION -- AGENCY,

AND THEN THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION ALSO HAS

AN EMERGENCY RELIEF PROGRAM, SO ROADWAYS THAT ARE ON

THE -- THIS MAP NOW BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEDERAL

HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION EMERGENCY FUNDING AS OPPOSED TO

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THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY'S FUNDING, SO

THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND FUNDING

OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW FOR THE ROADWAYS

ON THE MAP.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'LL CLARIFY THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE TO A

LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

IT'S ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE HANDOUT IN OUR PACKETS,

AND THAT'S -- LET'S SEE -- SOUTH 22nd STREET, CAUSEWAY

TO 20th.

WHEN -- IT SEEMS LIKE A DOWNGRADE FROM A MINOR

ARTERIAL URBAN TO A LOCAL ROAD.

>>WALLY BLAIN: I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MENTIONING THAT

EARLIER.

WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF 22nd STREET WHEN IT WAS

WIDENED -- AND, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS

THAT WERE DONE A DECADE AGO -- THE OLD 22nd STREET

THAT IS NOW FUNCTIONING AS A LOCAL ACCESS FOR THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS STILL ON THE MAP AS THAT ARTERIAL

DESIGNATION.

WITH THE WIDENING, IT MOVED OVER TO WHAT WAS THE 20th

STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND SO WHAT THIS REFLECTS IS THE

RECOGNITION THAT THAT NO LONGER SERVES AS AN ARTERIAL

FOR THE MAJOR TRAVEL THROUGH THERE, THAT IT IS

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PRIMARILY THAT LOCAL FUNCTION.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: GOOD CATCH.

COUNCIL -- COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, WALLY, FOR THIS.

AND WE HAD SUCH A LARGE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IN

POLICY COMMITTEE --

>>WALLY BLAIN: YES, MA'AM.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: -- BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS

VERY CONCERNED ABOUT -- I THINK IT WAS MORE FOR

EVACUATION PURPOSES, AND I GUESS YOU CLARIFIED THE

FACT THAT THEY ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR FHA AND FEMA FUNDS

BY BEING A COLLECTOR ROAD; IS THAT CORRECT?

>>WALLY BLAIN: NO, IT'S ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR THE FEDERAL

HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION FUNDING.

THE FEMA RULES ARE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT ROADWAYS THAT

ARE NOT DESIGNATED ON THE FEDERAL FUNCTIONAL

CLASSIFICATION MAP ARE ELIGIBLE RECIPIENTS FOR FEMA

FUNDING.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

SO THE ROAD IS NOT DESIGNATED?

>>WALLY BLAIN: RIGHT.

SO IT IS TWO DISTINCT FUNDING SOURCES, AND SO IT

SEPARATES OUT.

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WHAT YOU FIND IS IN THE RULES AND HOW THAT MONEY IS

APPLIED, THERE'S A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S

AVAILABLE THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND

THEN A DIFFERENT MATCH REQUIREMENT, AND OFF THE TOP OF

MY HEAD, I DON'T KNOW THOSE DETAILS, BUT THERE ARE

SOME DIFFERENT NUANCES WITHIN THOSE TWO PROGRAMS AS

WELL.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS -- THE CONSTITUENT WHEN YOU

TALKED ABOUT A CONSTITUENT OF MINE WHO I REFERRED TO

YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING -- IS THERE ANYTHING

THROUGH MAKING THIS A MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD THAT WOULD

CHANGE ANY CLASSIFICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW A BIKE

TRAIL TO GO THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD?

>>WALLY BLAIN: THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT

BY DESIGNATING IT THIS WAY IS IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE

FEDERAL SURFACE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS TO FUND SUCH A

TRAIL --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

>>WALLY BLAIN: -- BUT THE DESIGNATION DOESN'T ALLOW

IT ANY MORE THAN THE NONDESIGNATION ALLOWS IT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

I SEE.

SO EITHER WAY IT DIDN'T MATTER?

>>WALLY BLAIN: YEAH.

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IT'S MORE FOR FUNDING.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: EITHER WAY IT DIDN'T MATTER.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT

THAT RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ARE WATCHING IT VERY CLOSELY.

>>WALLY BLAIN: YES, MA'AM.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

OKAY.

THEN WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2010 URBANIZED

AREA AND FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION MAP.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: SO MOVE.

>>HARRY COHEN: SECOND.

>>MARK SHARPE: MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MURMAN,

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN COHEN.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU, MR. BLAIN.

>>WALLY BLAIN: THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE EAST HILLSBOROUGH

AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY NEXT STEPS, MS. TORRES.

>>GENA TORRES: THANK YOU.

GENA TORRES, MPO STAFF.

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THIS CORRIDOR HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR

A LONG TIME.

WE HAVE DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED QUITE A FEW CRASHES

ALONG IT, AND THAT'S PROMPTED OUR STUDY THAT YOU HEARD

LAST MONTH.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS JUST TO

FOLLOW UP.

THE D.O.T. WAS ACTUALLY CONCERNED TOO WITH ALL THE

CRASHES, AND IN '07 THEY HAD FINISHED A CEMENT -- A

MEDIAN THAT REALLY HELPED REDUCE SOME OF THE VEHICLE

CRASHES THAT WERE HAPPENING OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY IN

THE DUAL LEFT TURN, THE -- YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TURNING

LEFT, SO THAT REALLY HELPED REDUCE CRASHES, BUT AS YOU

CAN SEE BY THIS GRAPH, SEVERE CRASHES CONTINUE TO

INCREASE, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN MOTOR VEHICLES, BUT

MANY OF THESE WERE BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS ALSO, SO

THAT KIND OF WAS THE REASON WHY WE HAD OUR STUDY THAT

WE BROUGHT TO YOU AND YOU APPROVED LAST MONTH. AND

THIS STUDY, IF YOU RECALL, HAD SHORT-, MID-, AND LONG-

TERM RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST A WHOLE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

THINGS THAT -- OH, THEY'RE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AS

WELL, I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF

OUR STUDY, AND YOU APPROVED IT UNANIMOUSLY.

SINCE THAT TIME, WE HEARD A FEW THINGS FROM D.O.T.,

SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS THAT IN LOWERING THE SPEED

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LIMIT WOULD REQUIRE A SPEED STUDY AND PROBABLY SOME

DESIGN CHANGES THAT WOULD WARRANT THAT REDUCTION IN

SPEED SUCH AS MAYBE LANDSCAPED MEDIANS AND NARROWER

LANES, THAT REDUCING THE CYCLE LENGTHS WOULD ALSO

REQUIRE AN ANALYSIS.

THEY SUGGESTED MAYBE SYNCRO OR USING THE HIGHWAY

CAPACITY MANUAL.

PROTECTED ONLY LEFTS, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE -- THIS CAME

OUT OF OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU CAN ONLY TURN LEFT

IF THERE'S AN ARROW THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT OR

PROHIBITING RIGHT ON RED AND ALLOWING PEDESTRIANS TO

BEGIN TO CROSS BEFORE OTHER MOVEMENTS.

THEY FELT THAT THAT WOULD AFFECT -- COULD REDUCE MOTOR

VEHICLE CAPACITY.

MIDBLOCK CROSSING LOCATIONS WOULD NEED A DETAILED

ANALYSIS, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE RECOMMEND AT

THE INTERCHANGE THAT THAT ALSO NEEDED AN INTERCHANGE

MODIFICATION REPORT.

AND LASTLY, THAT THAT LONG-TERM IDEA OF REDUCING LANES

MAY AFFECT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF MOVING LARGE VOLUMES OF

PEOPLE AND GOODS.

SO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, I ACTUALLY

LOOKED TO THE DISTRICT 7'S PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION

PLAN THAT THEY HAD COMPLETED, AND IT HAD HIGHLIGHTED

EAST HILLSBOROUGH OR HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AS A WHOLE AS

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BEING A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN

CRASHES AND, YOU KNOW, A CONCERN, AND AS AN EXAMPLE,

THE USF AREA ALSO -- FLETCHER AVENUE WAS MAYBE EVEN

HIGHER THAN HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AS FAR AS CRASHES, AND

WHAT THE COUNTY DID AS A RESULT OF THE STATE'S

PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION PLAN WAS -- THIS IS JUST A

GOOD EXAMPLE -- THEY LOOKED AT FLETCHER AVENUE AND

THEY DID SOME TECHNICAL ANALYSIS OF THEIR OWN, LOOKING

REALLY SPECIFICALLY AT WHAT CRASHES WERE OCCURRING,

JUST KIND OF LIKE OUR EAST HILLSBOROUGH CORRIDOR

STUDY, AND CAME UP WITH VERY SIMILAR RECOMMENDATIONS

FOR MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS AND OTHER TREATMENTS, REDUCING

THE LANES, DOING A LOT ON FLETCHER AVENUE, AND IT'S

JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT WILL MAYBE NEED NOW TO

HAPPEN TO EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'VE

APPROVED, BUT WE'D LIKE TO SEE FURTHER ANALYSIS, MORE

TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AS D.O.T. SUGGESTED IN THEIR

CONCERNS TO US.

SO THAT'S -- IT'S A STATE ROAD, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO

ASK THE STATE TO DO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SO THAT WE

CAN IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: IS THAT -- ARE YOU THROUGH?

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>>GENA TORRES: YES.

YES, SIR.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER MILLER.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND THANK YOU, MS. TORRES, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION

AGAIN, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THE WORK THAT'S DONE ON

FLETCHER AVENUE HAS MADE A DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT IN THAT

AREA FOR MANY -- FOR EVERYONE OUT THERE.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LITTLE CHANGES, SOME BUMPS IN THE

ROAD, BUT IT'S WORKED OUT.

HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE CONTINUES TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS

PLACE, EVEN WHEN THE TRAFFIC AT PEAK TIMES ARE OFF,

THERE'S STILL SOME SITUATIONS THERE WHERE PEDESTRIANS

STILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME CROSSING THE STREET, AND

THERE ARE CAR ACCIDENTS.

I MEAN, THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING -- I DRIVE THAT

ROAD A LOT -- THERE WERE THREE CARS THAT GOT INTO AN

ACCIDENT, AND I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY DID

IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID, BUT THEY DID, AND IT'S A

MAJOR CONCERN.

IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN FROM -- REALLY FROM I-275 ALL THE

WAY DOWN TO 50th STREET, PROBABLY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO

ORIENT ROAD, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE

FDOT DISTRICT 7 INITIATE A STUDY OR STUDIES TO

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IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MPO'S EAST

HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER

MILLER AND A SECOND BY --

>>MIKE SUAREZ: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: -- COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

DO WE HAVE CONVERSATION?

DR. POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: YEAH.

JUST I WANT TO AGAIN EMPHASIZE THIS IS THE CORRIDOR

THAT'S ENVISIONED AS THE NEXT METRORAPID OR

POTENTIALLY THE NEXT METRORAPID PROJECT IN THE REGION,

AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE PLACEMENT OF METRORAPID STATIONS

AND THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK ACCESS,

ET CETERA, IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL, SO WHEN FOLKS GET

INTO DETAILED PLANNING, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY

COORDINATE WITH HART TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL

THOUGHT THROUGH.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

DR. POLZIN, ARE THE TWO -- CAN THEY BE CONGRUENT?

I MEAN, CAN YOU HAVE A CORRIDOR THAT'S A METRORAPID

CORRIDOR AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE TAKING STEPS TO --

>>STEVE POLZIN: ABSOLUTELY.

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I MEAN, I THINK COORDINATING THE IMPROVEMENTS IS VERY

COMPLEMENTARY, AND, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR

MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING AND SITE SELECTION,

ET CETERA'S, THE NEXT STEP FOR THE METRORAPID, SO TO

THE EXTENT THAT THOSE TWO CAN BE COORDINATED, I THINK

THAT'S VERY SYNERGISTIC.

>>MARK SHARPE: MS. TORRES.

>>GENA TORRES: THANK YOU.

OUR CRASH ANALYSIS DID SHOW -- WE DID, LIKE, HEAT MAPS

WHERE PEOPLE WERE GETTING HIT, PEDESTRIANS, AND IT

CORRELATED VERY CLOSELY WITH WHERE THE HEAVIEST

TRANSIT STOPS AND TRANSFERS WERE, SO WE BELIEVE THAT

PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE STOPS, SO THIS IS VERY

HIGH ON OUR LIST OF NEEDED COORDINATION.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?

DID YOU -- I'D LIKE TO GET -- I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE

CONVERSATION AT A LATER DATE REGARDING THIS ISSUE OF

THIS CONCENTRATION OF ACCIDENTS NEAR TRANSIT STOPS

BECAUSE IF IT'S INDEED TRUE, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE IT

IS, THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO TRANSIT TO GET TO

WORK AND THEY'RE -- YOU KNOW, AND THEIR LIVES ARE

IMPERILED JUST TRYING TO GET THERE, WE NEED -- THAT

NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE TALKING

ABOUT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HART'S ENGAGED IN

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THIS CONVERSATION.

COMMISSIONER MILLER.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I

BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME, BUT LET ME TELL YOU

SOMETHING.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT HART, BUT I HAVE

BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH HART BEFORE I CAME ON THIS

BOARD ABOUT ONE -- TWO TRANSIT STOPS THAT ARE NOT ON

HILLSBOROUGH BUT TRULY EFFECTS AND MAKES IT A

DANGEROUS INTERSECTION ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.

ON 22nd STREET THERE'S A BUS STOP THAT'S JUST SOUTH,

MAYBE A HALF A BLOCK, OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH ON 22nd

STREET, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON 22nd STREET THAT'S

ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK GOING NORTH.

WHEN THOSE BUSES STOP AND THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP, IT

CLOGS 22nd STREET AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE TO A MAJOR

DANGEROUS STOP, AND WHEN THE LIGHT'S CHANGING THERE --

SOMETIMES THOSE BUSES SIT THERE FOR DAYS -- TRAFFIC IS

BACKED UP.

I'VE CALLED HART.

THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO

HAVE IT.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

ARE YOU REALLY -- ARE YOU SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT

THAT'S THE PLACE TO HAVE IT?

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HAVE YOU BEEN OUT HERE TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC OUT

THERE?

I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, HAVE THEM LOOK

AT NOT ONLY THE ONES ON HILLSBOROUGH BUT LOOK AT THE

ONES THAT AFFECT HILLSBOROUGH BECAUSE IT IS A

DANGEROUS SITUATION.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA, AND I'VE HEARD --

ACTUALLY, I'VE WITNESSED THE 22nd STREET DEBACLE, AND

I DO THINK THAT HART NEEDS TO ENGAGE THEIR STAFF

THROUGH A COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE, MAYBE IT'S THE MAJOR

PROJECTS COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING, AND MR. POLZIN IS A

REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM HART.

WE NEED TO ENGAGE IN THAT STUDY BECAUSE, ACTUALLY, I

FOUND OLD BUS STOPS THAT ARE STILL STANDING AROUND.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE

REVIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT BUS STOPS, HOW IT AFFECTS

TRAFFIC, HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBOR -- THE QUALITY OF

LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND JUST GO THROUGH THERE,

AND MAYBE, DR. POLZIN, IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT BACK TO

HART AND REQUEST THAT STUDY, I THINK IT WOULD BE --

AND, OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER SHARPE AND I -- AND

BECKNER ALL SIT ON THAT BOARD TOO, BUT I THINK WE

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WOULD ALL SUPPORT THAT.

>>STEVE POLZIN: I'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION THAT MR. MILLER'S

DESCRIBING.

IT HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM THERE.

YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO HAVE THE BUS STOP NEAR THE

INTERSECTION TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO

TRANSFER.

THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET'S A TWO-LANE STREET, SO THE BUS

ENDS UP BLOCKING TRAFFIC.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN INITIATIVES TO TRY AND GET THE

ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO FREE UP ENOUGH REAL ESTATE SO

WE COULD PUT A BUS BAY IN THERE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING

WAS THAT'S BEEN BOUNCED AROUND AT THE CORPORATE LEVEL,

IT'S A NATIONAL CHAIN, AND THEY'VE BEEN UNABLE TO KIND

OF REACH A BREAKTHROUGH ON THAT, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY

FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: AND BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT BOARD

MEETING AS AN AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I THINK -- AND I DO

THINK THAT THIS IS THE ARGUMENT.

I'VE BEEN WATCHING CLOSELY THE METRORAPID, THE

FIRST -- THE FIRST SEGMENT.

I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY HONEST THAT DESIGNATED

LANES ARE PROBABLY THE MORE PREFERRED WAY FOR SAFETY

AND FOR FUTURE ROUTES, AND WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH

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OURSELVES.

WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO COST MORE MONEY, BUT IF THAT'S

GOING TO IMPROVE TRANSIT AND MOVE US FORWARD AS FAR AS

SAFETY AND WHATEVER ELSE WE HAVE TO OFFER IN OUR

TRANSPORTATION WITH THIS COMMUNITY, THEN WE NEED TO DO

IT BECAUSE NOW IS THE TIME.

WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY GROUP, WE'RE GOING

TO BE LOOKING AT FUNDING NEXT YEAR, AND I THINK THAT

NEEDS TO BE A BIG PART OF -- OF WHAT WE'RE -- WHAT

WE'RE SUGGESTING AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE

FIVE MORE METRORAPID SITE -- LINES, YOU KNOW, READY TO

GO, BUT, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY AREN'T DESIGNATED LANES,

AND I THINK FOR -- I'VE JUST BEEN WATCHING.

I'VE ACTUALLY FOLLOWED ONE DOWN NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND

IT STILL STOPS AND IT STILL STOPS UP TRAFFIC.

AND, I MEAN, IT DOES GO FASTER, BUT -- BECAUSE THEY

HAVE THE CLICKER THING OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED TO MAKE

THE LIGHTS CHANGE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO -- WE'VE GOTTA

THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE FUTURE ABOUT WHAT OUR

NEEDS REALLY ARE.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE AND THEN

COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: WELL, I WOULD PREFER MR. SUAREZ

SPEAK FIRST.

THANK YOU.

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>>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ISSUES.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I SECONDED COMMISSIONER

MILLER'S MOTION IS BECAUSE HART'S ISSUE WITH THAT

SPECIFIC INTERSECTION IS THAT THE OWNER OF THAT

PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND REFUSES TO SELL.

PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO OWN IT

ARE GOING THROUGH A DIVORCE, SO THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL

ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, AND --

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>>MIKE SUAREZ: HUH?

[LAUGHTER]

I'M NOT GETTING INTO THAT ARGUMENT EITHER WAY.

SO IT'S -- ACTUALLY, IT'S GONE THROUGH OUR OFFICE.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AND CVS AND THE

OWNERS OF THAT, AS HAS COUNCILMAN REDDICK'S OFFICE.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MIKE SUAREZ: HUH?

>>LES MILLER, JR.: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP WORKING ON IT,

AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED ON IT.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: YOU SAID CVS.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: NOT -- IT'S CVS, IT'S THE OWNER OF THE

LAND ITSELF.

IT'S NOT CVS CORPORATE, IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THAT

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PROPERTY.

AND ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IS, IS THAT NOT HAVING

THAT KIND OF CUT-IN FOR A BAY MAKES IT EXTREMELY

DIFFICULT.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO TWO THINGS, PROVIDING THE

SERVICE AND ALSO FINDING THAT IT'S BOTH CONVENIENT AND

SAFE.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.

THE SECOND THING -- I THINK THIS STARTED WITH

MR. POLZIN AND COMMISSIONER MURMAN REITERATED IT -- IS

THE BRT LANES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- AND THIS

IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH FDOT TO

ALLOW A DEDICATED LANE FOR BRT -- IS THAT WHEN YOU

HAVE A DEDICATED LANE, YOU HAVE A SMOOTHER WAY OF

TRANSPORTING PEOPLE AND, SECONDLY, A SMOOTHER WAY OF

PROVIDING THE KIND OF TRAFFIC FLOW THAT YOU WANT.

YOU'RE -- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT, 22nd AND

HILLSBOROUGH, AS A LOT OF PLACES ALONG HILLSBOROUGH,

ARE REALLY TOUGH WHEN YOU'RE BEHIND A BUS BECAUSE THAT

STUFF STACKS UP, YOU'RE BACKED UP, THERE'S NO WAY TO

GET AROUND IT.

SO I KNOW THAT ON OUR END WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO

GET HART TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM,

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE PRIVATE HANDS THAT HAVE THAT

PROPERTY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BE SETTLED FOR US TO

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EVEN PURCHASE IT, SO THAT'S KIND OF -- WE'RE KIND OF

STUCK IN THAT SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT

IS A BIG ISSUE, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL

TOUCHED.

YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THOSE CALLS TOO, SO WE

KEEP TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT AS BEST WE CAN.

YEAH.

>>MARK SHARPE: THAT WAS A GOOD UPDATE.

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

AND NOT BEING A BOARD MEMBER OF HART, SO MAYBE THOSE

WHO ARE WOULD KNOW THIS, BUT HAS THERE BEEN

IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WE -- EITHER THE

CITY OR THE COUNTY OWNS ALONG THOSE ROUTES, SO LOOKING

AT HOW MUCH WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE, BECAUSE I

WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE, COMMISSIONER MURMAN, WE NEED TO

HAVE THOSE DEDICATED LANES, AND I THINK IT WOULD

ENABLE US NOT ONLY FOR A SMOOTHER FLOW BUT WOULD

INCREASE SAFETY BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE TAKING, YOU KNOW,

THE FOLKS WHO ARE BEHIND A BUS IN THAT LANE FROM

CUTTING AROUND AND SPEEDING UP AND TRYING TO GET PAST

THAT STOPPED BUS, SO I THINK IT WOULD SPEAK TO SOME

SAFETY ISSUES.

SO I'D LIKE -- IF IT'S NOT ALREADY KNOWN, MAYBE AS

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PART OF THE MOTION AND PART OF THE STUDY THAT

COMMISSIONER MILLER IS ASKING FOR THAT WE HAVE THOSE

AREAS IDENTIFIED, WHAT'S RIGHT-OF-WAY OWNED BY CITY OR

COUNTY AND WHAT ISN'T.

>>MARK SHARPE: WELL, ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION -- I THINK

THE COMMENTS YOU'VE MADE ARE TREMENDOUS.

THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN WE'RE A CAR-CENTRIC COMMUNITY

AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF TOSSED TRANSIT ON TOP OF OUR

ROADS THINKING IT WOULD WORK, AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING

NOW IS THAT AS MORE PEOPLE BEGIN TO USE TRANSIT AND

RELY ON IT, JUST CROSSING THE STREET CAN BE HAZARDOUS,

BUT TRYING TO GET TO THE STOP, LEAVE THE STOP -- IN

FACT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE

TRYING TO ADD SEVERAL HUNDRED BICYCLE STOPS NEAR

TRANSIT STATIONS.

I THINK IT'S FABULOUS.

DAVID GREEN'S WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

FABULOUS IDEA, BUT MY CONCERN IS ARE WE PREPARED FOR

THOSE BIKES ON THE ROADS?

WHAT ARE WE DOING?

THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY GROUP, THE COMMITTEE THAT NOW

IS MEETING UNDER THE COUNTY'S LEADERSHIP, IS TALKING

ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE TRANSIT AND OUR,

YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION TOGETHER INTO A -- WHAT WE

HOPE WILL BE A GOOD SOLID PROGRAM FOR TRANSPORTATION.

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WHAT I THINK WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT

REVENUE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THERE BEING SOME --

WHETHER -- IT WILL NOT LIKELY BE 2014 BUT PERHAPS 2015

OR 2016 -- SOME POSSIBLE REVENUE ENHANCEMENT PLAN

WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY INVOLVE A REFERENDUM OF SOME

SORT LOOKING AT USING SALES TAX.

WE'D HAVE REVENUE, AND THAT MONEY COULD BE USED --

EVERYONE'S TALKING AND FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMS

WE DON'T HAVE, BUT LOOK AT WHAT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE COULD USE SOME OF THAT REVENUE TO ENHANCE OUR

TRANSIT THAT WAY, SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO

IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THE COUNTY ENGAGED IN

THIS CONVERSATION, MAKING SURE THAT MR. MARLOWE AND

ERIC JOHNSON ARE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT

WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE A FULLY INTEGRATED PLAN SO THAT

WHEN YOU COME UP HERE AND YOU TALK ABOUT STEPS THAT

YOU WANT TO TAKE, THE COUNTY'S ENGAGED, WE'VE GOT

REVENUE AND RESOURCES, HART'S ENGAGED, SO WE'LL MAKE

SURE THAT WE BRING THAT TOGETHER.

AND I'LL TALK WITH MR. MARLOWE AND MR. JOHNSON TO MAKE

SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND

DEDICATE THE REVENUE AND RESOURCES TO THE EXISTING

TRANSIT SYSTEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEFORE WE START

TALKING ABOUT NEW ONES.

ARE WE ALL FINE WITH THAT?

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COOL.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE, THOUGH, ACTION, SO WE NEED TO

REQUEST THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION -- OH,

ACTUALLY, MR. MILLER, YOU HAVE A -- YOU'VE READ A

MOTION.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON MR. MILLER'S MOTION,

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REPEAT THAT JUST FOR THE

LISTENING AUDIENCE.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: [INAUDIBLE]

THAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT

7 INITIATE A STUDY OR STUDIES TO IMPLEMENT

RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MPO'S EAST HILLSBOROUGH

AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

COUNCILMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: AND COULD YOU ALSO ADD AS A

FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE A

STUDY -- AS PART OF THE STUDY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY

OWNERSHIP OF THOSE CORRIDORS?

>>LES MILLER, JR.: DON'T WE HAVE THAT ALREADY?

>>GENA TORRES: I THINK THAT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A

SEPARATE -- A SEPARATE MOTION OR SEPARATE ISSUE TO

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BRING FORWARD.

>>LES MILLER, JR.: THAT OUGHT TO BE A SEPARATE

MOTION.

>>GENA TORRES: IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AFTER.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

LET'S TAKE ACTION ON THE STANDING MOTION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

NOW, COUNCILMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE ENGAGE IN A CATALOGING

OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR THAT

WAS THE -- WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE PREVIOUS MOTION.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND -- OKAY.

WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON THIS MOTION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[CHORUS OF AYES]

ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION PASSES.

>>GENA TORRES: THANK YOU.

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>>MARK SHARPE: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR STATUS

REPORTS.

SUSAN FINNIMORE.

MS. FINNIMORE'S HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SIS 2040 COST-FEASIBLE PLAN.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

THIS TIME TO COME AND PRESENT TO YOU.

WE RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO UPDATE THE 2040

LONG-RANGE PLAN FOR THE SIS, AND I CAME HERE TODAY TO

DO THIS PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN BASICALLY HOW WE GOT

TO THE ADOPTED PLAN THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

SO FIRST OFF, WHAT IS THE SIS?

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PURPOSE, THE BACKGROUND,

METHODOLOGY, THE SCHEDULE, HOW WE CAME TO THE DISTRICT

PROJECTS AND PRIORITIES, AND, OF COURSE, TO GIVE YOU

SOME CONTACT INFORMATION AND REFERENCE INFORMATION.

SO FIRST WE THINK ABOUT THE SIS, THE STRATEGIC

INTERMODAL SYSTEM, AND WHAT DOES THAT EXACTLY MEAN?

IT'S MADE OF OUR HIGH-PRIORITY TRANSPORTATION HIGHWAYS

AND THE FACILITIES IT SERVES, THE HUBS, AND YOU PUT

ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND IT COMES UP WITH A SYSTEM.

AND THE STRATEGIC INTERMODAL SYSTEM WAS ESTABLISHED IN

2003, RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEEDED TO SERVE THE MOBILITY

OF THE PEOPLE AND GOODS, MAKE FLORIDA AN ECONOMIC

LEADER, TO ENHANCE OUR ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, ENRICH OUR

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QUALITY OF LIFE, AND BE RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR

ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

SO THE OBJECTIVES OF THE SIS IS TO PROVIDE THE

CONNECTIVITY EFFICIENTLY; TO GIVE US CHOICES; TO

PROVIDE INTERMODAL CONNECTIVITY; ECONOMIC

COMPETITIVENESS; TO BE AWARE OF OUR -- THE ENERGY, AIR

QUALITY, AND CLIMATE; AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND THE COMPONENTS OF THE SIS ARE HIGHWAYS,

CONNECTORS, HUBS, WHICH IS YOUR AIRPORTS, SEAPORT,

PASSENGER TERMINALS, YOUR RAIL LINES, AND WATERWAYS.

NOW, THERE'S CRITERIA THAT'S PUT ON THERE TO WHERE

THEY BECOME SIS, AND SOME OF THAT CRITERIA IS THE

AMOUNT OF FREIGHT TONNAGE THAT'S TRANSPORTED OR MAYBE

THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS THAT USE THE AIRPORT OR THE

BUS TERMINALS.

THE HIGHWAYS, WE LOOK AT THE VEHICLE AND THE TRUCK

VOLUME, DOES IT MAKE CONNECTIVITY, AND IS IT ON THE

NHS, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.

AND ALSO WE LOOK AT MILITARY ACCESS FACILITIES, WHICH

IS A NEW DESIGNATION IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

THE MILITARY ACCESS FACILITY IS MacDILL HIGHWAY, AND

IT CONNECTS THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY WITH MacDILL AIR

FORCE BASE, THE FRONT GATE THERE.

AND THE SIS HIGHWAY COMPONENT, IT'S BASICALLY THE

BACKBONE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF

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FLORIDA.

WE'VE GOT 3,500 MILES OF SIS AND 761 OF -- MILES OF

EMERGING SIS, AND AN EMERGING SIS FACILITY IS

BASICALLY A FACILITY THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED THAT IT

HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME AN SIS.

AND SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THAT ARE YOUR INTERSTATE

HIGHWAYS, YOUR TURNPIKE, YOUR EXPRESSWAYS, YOUR MAJOR

ARTERIAL HIGHWAYS, AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOUR

CONNECTORS BETWEEN HUBS AND THE SIS.

SO AN INTERESTING FACT, THAT THE SIS REPRESENTS LESS

THAN 3% OF ALL OF THE STATE ROADS IN FLORIDA, YET IT

HANDLES 55% OF ALL THE TRAFFIC AND 70% OF THE TRUCK

TRAFFIC IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO THEN WE GET INTO THE PLANNING PROCESS, AND THE

PLANNING PROCESS IS VERY SIMPLE.

IT SUPPORTS THE INVESTMENT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE

IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER TO PUT CAPACITY PROJECTS ON

THESE HIGHWAYS.

AND ALTHOUGH THIS SHOWS YOU THE HISTORY OF THE

PLANNING PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT

TODAY IS THE -- THE PROCESS THAT STARTED FOR THE COST-

FEASIBLE PLAN AND ENDED UP IN AUGUST OF 2013 WITH AN

ADOPTED PLAN.

AND WE LOOK AT THE SIS PLAYING AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN

SHAPING AND SUPPORTING ECONOMIC GROWTH IN OUR AREAS,

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AND THE GOAL OF THE DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY TO USE 75%

OF ALL THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO PROJECTS ON THE SIS

FACILITY.

AND SOME OF THE SIS CORRIDORS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY

IS I-75, I-275, I-4, THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY, A PORTION

OF GANDY BOULEVARD FROM PINELLAS COUNTY TO THE SELMON

EXPRESSWAY, THE EAST-WEST CONNECTOR, THE VETERANS.

AND THIS IS THE FUNDING STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT FUNDING PLANS, AND I THINK THE

NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER HOW IT FLOWS,

AND YOU LOOK AT IT FROM RIGHT TO LEFT.

YOU START OUT WITH THE UNFUNDED NEEDS PLAN, WHICH IS A

30-YEAR PLAN, AND THEN WE PULL PROJECTS FROM THERE AND

THEY GO INTO THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN -- IT'S KIND OF

LIKE A STAGING AREA -- AND THEN IT GOES TO THE SECOND

FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM AND THEN FINALLY INTO THE FIRST

FIVE.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN IS TO

EVALUATE THE NEEDS OF THE SIS, ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT

WHAT OUR FUTURE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE, AND WE

DEVELOP A PHASE PLAN FOR THE COST-FEASIBLE FUTURE

IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SIS, AND THEN WE ALSO MAKE SURE

THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR FLORIDA TRANSPORTATION

PLAN.

AND, OF COURSE, THE MPOs USE THIS PLAN WHEN YOU'RE

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DEVELOPING YOUR LRTP, WHICH IS AN EXERCISE YOU'LL

START NEXT YEAR.

AND INCLUDED IN THE 2040 PLAN, WE STARTED WITH THE

PROJECTS THAT WAS IN THE 2035 PLAN.

THIS WAS AN EXERCISE THAT WAS TAKEN ABOUT FIVE YEARS

AGO, AND WE TOOK THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED

NEW PROJECTS WITH OUR DISTRICT PARTNERS AND THEN WE --

THE PROJECTS ADVANCED FROM THE -- TO THE -- FROM THE

2040 UNFUNDED NEEDS PLAN INTO THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN.

AND WE DID COORDINATION WITH OUR PARTNERS, WE LOOKED

AT DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT WE HAVE FOR ANALYSIS, AND WE

ALSO REVIEWED THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT,

EXECUTIVE BOARD UNTIL WE FINALLY CAME TO AN APPROVED

COST-FEASIBLE PLAN.

AND THEN IDENTIFYING PROJECTS, WE LOOKED AT PROJECTS

THAT WERE OF STATEWIDE IMPORTANCE, WE LOOKED AT THAT

THE PROJECT CONTRIBUTES TO THE EXPANSION OF A MAJOR

HIGHWAY OR TO HELP WITH TOURISM CORRIDORS, THAT THE

PROJECT COMPLETES A CORRIDOR, THAT IT PROVIDES OVERALL

CONNECTIVITY IN THE SIS, REMEMBERING THAT THIS IS A

NETWORK, AND THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH LOCAL PLANS AND

IT MEETS ALL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.

SO THEN WE SELECTED THE PROJECTS USING OUR TOOLS,

LOOKING AT MPO PRIORITIES, HAVING TO KEEP IN MIND THE

FUNDING AND THE COST OF THE PROJECTS, LOOKING AT THE

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PRODUCTION SCHEDULE, IS IT -- DOES IT -- STILL LOOKING

AT THAT CONNECTIVITY, AND THEN, OF COURSE, GETTING

SENIOR MANAGEMENT AND EXECUTIVE GUIDANCE.

SO THEN WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE DOCUMENT, WE CHANGED

IT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

WE'VE GOT FOUR COLOR BANDS ON THERE, AND HOPEFULLY

THAT HELPS OUR MPO PARTNERS IN DEVELOPING THE LRTP.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO VERSIONS THIS TIME.

WE HAVE A VERSION THAT SHOWS PRESENT-DAY COST OF THE

PROJECTS AND WE HAVE YEAR-OF-EXPENDITURE COST.

SO THEN IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT

HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS IN OUR FUNDING PLANS, WE'VE

GOT CAPACITY PROJECTS AND OPERATIONAL PROJECTS ON I-

75, ON U.S. 41, BROADWAY AVENUE, WHICH IS OUR

CONNECTOR TO THE CSX RAIL YARD, AND IN THE SECOND FIVE

YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT I-275 AT STATE ROAD 60

INTERCHANGE, WE'RE LOOKING, AGAIN, AT I-275 AND I-75.

AND THEN IN THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN, WE'VE GOT MORE

PROJECTS CONTINUING THAT WORK ON I-275 AND I-4.

I-75 AGAIN, STATE ROAD 60, AND THEN 60 IN VALRICO AND

THEN U.S. 41.

THIS IS A CONNECTOR FROM PENDOLA POINT ROAD TO THE

CAUSEWAY BOULEVARD CONNECTING THE PORT.

SO THEN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES IS SOMETHING THAT'LL

HELP YOU LOOKING AT THE MAP TO KIND OF PLACE ALL THESE

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PROJECTS, AND YOU CAN VERY WELL SEE THE SYSTEM THAT

WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE AS FAR AS THE SIS AND PUTTING

THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER.

SO NOW IF YOU LOOK INTO THE UNFUNDED NEEDS -- AND

REMEMBER, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR STARTING POINT WHERE

WE WERE LOOKING AT PROJECTS -- WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE

PROJECTS FOR I-75, VAN DYKE ROAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT

STATE ROAD 60, THERE'S A PROJECT OUT THERE FOR DALE

MABRY, AND CAUSEWAY BOULEVARD AND BIG BEND ROAD.

AND RECENTLY -- IF YOU WOULD GO OUT TO THE WEB SITE

FOR THE D.O.T. AND LOOK AT THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN

MAYBE THREE MONTHS AGO, YOU WOULD FIND A PLAN OUT

THERE THAT WAS VERY OUTDATED, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

START DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO DO YEARLY UPDATES, SO AS

PROJECTS MOVE FROM THE COST-FEASIBLE PLAN INTO THE

TEN-YEAR AND INTO THE FIVE-YEAR, WE'LL PULL IT OUT OF

THAT PLAN SO THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT,

BUT AS A WHOLE, THIS DOCUMENT IS UPDATED EVERY FIVE

YEARS.

AND THESE ARE LINKS TO THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS AND THE

PLANS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT I GAVE YOU EARLIER IS A LETTER

FROM ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICHARD BITER WHICH THANKS

YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THE TIME THAT IT TOOK

TO DEVELOP COMMENTS TO HELP US PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER.

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IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>>MARK SHARPE: BOARD MEMBERS.

COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE AND THE PRESENTATION.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE LISTENING

HERE -- I MEAN, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT

PROJECTS THAT MAY BE GOING IN, YOU KNOW, MOVING FROM

THE DIFFERENT STAGES IN THE PLAN.

CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A BRIEF UPDATE AND -- FOR THE

PEOPLE LISTENING AS FAR AS WHAT ARE SOME OF THE

HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY --

ARE FUNDED AND ARE UNDERWAY AND THE DIFFERENT AREAS

PEOPLE CAN START SEEING WHERE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY

UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW?

>> OKAY.

I-75 IS A BIG ONE.

THAT'S A PROJECT THAT MOVED IN BASICALLY FROM THE

COST-FEASIBLE PLAN AND THE UNFUNDED NEEDS.

IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE THAT HIGHWAY A SIX-

LANE HIGHWAY.

THAT'LL BE SIX-LANE HIGHWAY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE

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FLORIDA STATE LINE, VERY IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMICS AND

FOR TRANSPORTATION OF GOODS THROUGH THE STATE OF

FLORIDA.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONGESTION AT I-275, THE PROJECT

THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY THERE WIDENING THAT TO HELP

WITH CONGESTION MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE PD&E STUDIES THAT ARE REFLECTED

IN THIS PLAN TO LOOK AT CONGESTION IN I-275, I-4, I-

275 NORTH OF THE INTERCHANGE, ALL TO HELP WITH THE

MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND GOODS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH

COUNTY AREA.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER MURMAN.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON I-75 I SAW LOOKED REALLY GOOD,

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL.

MY QUESTION IS, IS ON THE INTERCHANGES.

THERE'S A LOT OF TALK IN SOUTH COUNTY -- AND I'M

TALKING I-4 SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LINE --

ABOUT POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL INTERCHANGES THAT MIGHT BE

NEEDED OR CHANGES TO THE INTERCHANGES, WHICH I THINK

YOU HAVE HERE, BUT HOW WOULD THAT FIT INTO WHAT ALL

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YOU JUST GAVE US?

IF THERE WERE TO BE THE -- THE PLANNED GROWTH THAT WE

HAVE IN SOUTH COUNTY, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME --

PROBABLY SOME -- AN -- AT LEAST ONE ADDITIONAL

INTERCHANGE, SO HOW WOULD THAT FIT IN?

>> OKAY.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH COUNTY, JUST FOR

CLARIFICATION --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THAT'S I-75.

>> -- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I-75?

OKAY.

ON I-75, RECENTLY WE HAVE COMPLETED A PD&E STUDY.

WE LOOKED AT THE I-75 CORRIDOR FROM MOCCASIN WALLOW

ALL THE WAY NORTH, AND THROUGH THAT WE DETERMINED THAT

THERE WAS SOME NEED, BUT IN THE INTERIM, BECAUSE OF

THE EXTREME COST, BASICALLY, TO IMPROVE THE ENTIRE

CORRIDOR AT ONE TIME, WE LOOKED AT INTERIM OPERATIONAL

IMPROVEMENTS, AND THOSE HAPPEN TO BE AT THE

INTERCHANGE.

ONE OF THE INTERCHANGES THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPROVEMENT

DONE IS GOING TO BE I-75 AT STATE ROAD 60, WHICH IS IN

SORE NEED OF SOME HELP.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

>> OKAY.

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THERE'S ALSO PROJECTS TO WHERE WE LOOK AT ALMOST LIKE

A CD ROAD SYSTEM TO HELP PEOPLE COME OFF OF THOSE

ARTERIAL ROADS ONTO I-75 IN THE AREAS JUST SOUTH OF

STATE ROAD 60 GOING UP TO THE I-4 INTERCHANGE.

THERE'S ALSO OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE I-4

INTERCHANGE AND I-75 NORTH GOING UP TO THE BYPASS

CANAL, SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT

NEED, AND THAT'S ALL DISPLAYED WITHIN THE FUNDING

PLANS.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: IF I COULD JUST HAVE A BRIEF FOLLOW-

UP.

I THINK IT'S THE -- IT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

GROWTH, IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT IS GOING

TO FUEL NEED, AND I GUESS IT'LL FALL BACK ON US OR

D.O.T. ON HOW TO -- HOW THE -- WE CAN LEVERAGE SOME OF

THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH TO PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL

INTERCHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED DOWN THE ROAD.

I -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNED GROWTH THAT'S

COMMERCIAL GROWTH, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT

TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES.

AMAZON IS AT THE CORE OF THAT GROWTH.

>>MARK SHARPE: WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO USE DRONES.

[LAUGHTER]

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THAT'S TRUE.

I KNOW.

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MAYBE WE WON'T NEED MORE INTERCHANGES, WE'LL JUST HIRE

DRONES.

BUT I -- I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING IS

THAT I HOPE THAT WE'RE PLANNING, AND I SEE SHE'S --

>> THAT -- OH.

>> LEE ROYAL, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THERE WERE SEVERAL INTERCHANGES IN SOUTH COUNTY, BIG

BEND ROAD, 674, THAT THERE -- THERE ARE PROPOSED

INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS --

>>SANDRA MURMAN: CORRECT.

>> -- BUT IT'S NOT FUNDED AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE WATCHING THE GROWTH IN SOUTH COUNTY, AND WE'RE

WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNTY STAFF AS TO WHAT THE

IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE AND CAN'T.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.

>> YES.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

MS. FINNIMORE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT, AND IT WAS

INSIGHTFUL AND ENLIGHTENING.

THERE WAS A SLIDE THERE THAT SHOWED MacDILL WIDENING.

CAN YOU MAYBE GO BACK A FEW SLIDES AND TALK TO US A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE -- I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IT

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WAS --

>> DALE MABRY.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: -- DALE MABRY, I'M SORRY, FROM TWO

LANES TO SIX.

>> FOUR TO SIX?

>>LISA MONTELIONE: OH, ADDITION OF TWO LANES TO MAKE

IT SIX.

>> RIGHT.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: AND AS WE SIT AT CITY COUNCIL, WE

HEAR -- AND EVEN AT THE POLICY COMMITTEE WE HEAR FROM

RESIDENTS QUITE OFTEN ABOUT CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE OF

THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS BEING DECIMATED BY THESE ROAD

PROJECTS, AND THAT WAS ONE THAT I HADN'T SEEN BEFORE.

I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THE -- OF

THAT INCLUSION.

>> THE ONE THING THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS

A PLAN OUT TO 2040, OKAY, AND BEFORE ANY PROJECTS MOVE

FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT.

THERE IS A NEED.

THERE IS CONGESTION ON DALE MABRY, AND LOOKING AT IT

AS A CONNECTION FOR THE MILITARY BASE, YOU WANT TO

MAKE SURE IN TIME THAT THE BASE NEEDS TO MOVE THAT

THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT.

WILL THERE BE SIX LANES?

HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THERE'S

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GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF ITERATIONS BEFORE WE GET

TO 2040, AND IF ANYTHING HAPPENS ON DALE MABRY, THAT'S

SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE VERY WELL AWARE OF.

WE WOULD COME TO YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AND

GET YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST BASICALLY A RECOGNIZED NEED.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: WELL, UNDERSTOOD.

AND PART OF THE REASON I -- I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT

IS BECAUSE IN THE AREA OF -- HILLSBOROUGH WAS BROUGHT

UP EARLIER, AREAS AROUND THE USF AREA WHERE BUSCH

BOULEVARD AND DALE -- AND -- I'M SORRY -- FOWLER

AVENUE CREATE THESE SUPER WIDE CORRIDORS THAT ARE

DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE FOR PEDESTRIANS, IT -- IT

DOESN'T ASSIST WITH THE COHESIVENESS OF THE AREAS, AND

BY, YOU KNOW, PAVING OVER SO MUCH OF OUR CITY, WE'RE

NOT CREATING, AT LEAST IN MY VIEW, THE -- THE

ATMOSPHERE, THE WALKABILITY, THE SAFETY, WE'VE GOT

BICYCLES, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE MODES OF

TRANSPORTATION, AND I JUST GET CONCERNED WHEN WE ARE

TAKING THESE ROADS OUT TO BE SO WIDE.

I MEAN, FOWLER -- I'VE GOT PEOPLE BEGGING ME TO DO

SOMETHING ABOUT FOWLER AND BUSCH BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO

DIFFICULT TO CROSS THAT -- YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT CITIZENS

WHO ARE ON ONE SIDE OF BUSCH BOULEVARD WHO CAN'T

ACCESS THE SERVICES OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY

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WHERE WE HAVE A BRAND-NEW BEAUTIFUL RECREATION CENTER

BECAUSE THEY TAKE THEIR LIVES IN THEIR HANDS CROSSING

BUSCH BOULEVARD.

>> MM-HMM.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS

THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT EVEN LOOKING FORWARD, THAT WE

ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION AND CREATE A CITY

THAT IS -- AND PARTS OF THE COUNTY TOO AS THEY DEVELOP

THAT ARE WALKABLE AND ACCESSIBLE BY MODES OF

TRANSPORTATION OTHER THAN JUST THE FLOW OF CARS IN AND

OUT.

>> TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, THAT'S ON THE UNFUNDED

NEEDS PLAN, SO THAT'S 40 -- 40 YEARS AWAY --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: [INAUDIBLE]

>> -- BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S RECOGNIZED

THERE'S A NEED THERE, YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC ISSUE AND

CONGESTION, BUT YOU HAVE MANY, MANY PROJECTS IN FRONT

OF THAT THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

WHEN WE DO ACTUALLY GET TO A POINT OF LOOKING AT WHAT

THE ALTERNATIVES ARE FOR A FACILITY, IT GOES UNDER A

PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT STUDY, WHICH YOU'RE

FAMILIAR WITH, SO WE LOOK AT A VARIETY OF ALTERNATIVES

TO INCLUDE OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND FOR THE LISTENERS OUT

THERE, NO, IT'S RIGHT NOW UNFUNDED, SO THANK YOU.

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>>LISA MONTELIONE: AS ARE MOST OF OUR TRANSPORTATION

PROJECTS.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILMAN COHEN.

>>HARRY COHEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE'S

PASSION FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND COMPLETE

STREETS, THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE CHAIR OF THE LIVABLE

ROADWAYS COMMITTEE, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO

POINT OUT THAT THE PIECE OF DALE MABRY BETWEEN THE

EXIT OF THE CROSSTOWN AND THE GATE OF MacDILL AIR

FORCE BASE IS A VERY, VERY HEAVILY TRAVELED CORRIDOR,

PARTICULARLY DURING RUSH HOUR, AND ONE OF THE -- ONE

OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT WE HAVE THERE IS WE DO HAVE

MUCH WIDER MEDIANS THAN WE HAVE NORTH OF GANDY, AND WE

ALSO DO HAVE, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO PLAY

WITH BECAUSE IT'S NOT NEARLY AS DENSE AS IT IS -- DALE

MABRY AS IT IS NORTH OF GANDY.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE CITY HAS MADE SOME

IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH GO DIRECTLY TO

ISSUES OF WALKABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS,

PARTICULARLY THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE MANHATTAN TRAIL,

WHICH IS -- IS REALLY BISECTING THAT ENTIRE

NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO THE ADDITION OF A NEW FIRE

STATION DOWN THERE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE AT THE CORNER

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OF INTERBAY AND MANHATTAN AND VERY WELL MAY ALSO BE

USING THAT PIECE OF DALE MABRY AS A -- AS A WAY TO

REACH A LOT OF THE SOUTH TAMPA HOMES THAT IT'LL BE

SERVING.

SO I -- I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT WE'VE GOT TO WATCH AND

MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WORK IS DONE DOES NOT DESTROY

THE WALKABILITY AND THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE

NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE ABSOLUTELY IS A REAL NEED

THERE IN TERMS OF AMELIORATING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC

PROBLEMS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

OUR NEXT STAFF -- THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT REPORT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THE IMAGINE 2040 SURVEY RESULTS AND HYBRID SCENARIO.

>>BETH ALDEN: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.

THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE AN OVERVIEW OF THE RESULTS

FROM THE IMAGINE 2040 OUTREACH EFFORT, WHAT WE'VE

HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM FOLKS TAKING

THE SURVEY, AND ALSO, WE'D LIKE TO START GETTING YOUR

ADVICE ON WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR LONG-RANGE PLAN

UPDATE.

OF COURSE, THE IMAGINE 2040 EFFORT BEGINS BY LOOKING

AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH

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1.3 MILLION PEOPLE.

ABOUT 87% OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS

BEEN INSIDE OUR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY.

WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGES

TODAY, AND LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, WE'RE EXPECTING

IN THE RANGE OF 400- TO 600,000 MORE RESIDENTS THAN WE

HAVE RIGHT NOW, SO LOOKING OUT TO THE FUTURE, WHAT

DOES THAT KIND OF GROWTH MEAN FOR BOTH OUR

COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND OUR LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION

PLAN.

AND SO THE IMAGINE 2040 EFFORT WAS BASED ON THREE

DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, THE SUBURBAN DREAM, THE BUSTLING

METRO, THE NEW CORPORATE CENTERS.

THESE ARE SIMPLIFIED SCENARIOS THAT INCLUDED BOTH LAND

USE AND TRANSPORTATION ASPECTS.

SO OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AUGUST 16th TO

NOVEMBER 11th, WE HAD MORE THAN 3500 RESPONSES TO THIS

SURVEY, LOOKING AT THOSE SCENARIOS AND THE DIFFERENT

COMPONENTS OF THOSE SCENARIOS AND RATING THEM.

THE RESPONSES HAVE BEEN MOSTLY THROUGH OUR WEB SITE,

WHICH WAS -- WHICH WAS PRETTY HEAVILY PROMOTED, NOT

ONLY THROUGH OUR USUAL NEWSLETTERS BUT ALSO SEEKING

OUT PRESS COVERAGE AND ARTICLES IN THE PAPER, ALSO A

PAID INSERT IN THE TRIB AND A WRAP ON THAT FREE TAMPA

BAY TIMES.

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SO PROMOTING THAT WEB SITE, AND THE WEB SITE WAS THE

MOST FREQUENTLY USED TOOL, BUT WE DID ALSO GO AND DO

PRESENTATIONS TO COMMUNITY GROUPS, TAKING A PAPER COPY

OF THE SURVEY WITH US SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE

AUDIENCE COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY.

WE BROUGHT IPADS OUT TO COMMUNITY EVENTS, SO

INFORMATION TABLES AND DISPLAYS.

PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THE SURVEY THROUGH IPADS.

AND THEN ALSO PLACING KIOSKS AT A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS,

SUCH AS YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE HERE.

SO WE DID HAVE 49 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FOR THE KIOSKS

AROUND THE COUNTY, AND THOSE ARE THOSE GREEN

THUMBTACK-LOOKING THINGS THAT AREN'T SHOWING UP SO

GREAT ON THIS MAP.

WE HAD 94 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE IMAGINE 2040 WAS

PRESENTED.

WE GOT 574 PAPER SURVEYS BACK FROM THAT, AND THESE

WERE ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

SO BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE RESULTS.

WE ASKED FOLKS TO RATE 12 DIFFERENT FACTORS, WHAT

WERE -- YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THEY THINK WERE THE TOP

FIVE THINGS THAT MATTERED THE MOST TO THEM.

AND THE THREE FACTORS THAT WERE MOST FREQUENTLY CHOSEN

IN THE TOP FIVE WERE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, JOB CREATION,

AND AVAILABLE BUS OR RAIL, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE

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THREE BARS ARE KIND OF CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND, YOU

KNOW, THEY'RE NOTICEABLY LONGER THAN THE NEXT GROUP

DOWN.

SO THESE -- THESE THREE, WHAT DO THEY MEAN IN TERMS OF

OUR PRIORITIES?

SO TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AVAILABLE BUS OR RAIL, AND JOB

CREATION.

TRAFFIC DELAY IS GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE IN ALL THREE

OF OUR SCENARIOS, ALTHOUGH THE SUBURBAN DREAM, WHICH

IS CONTINUED OUTWARD GROWTH, WAS PROBABLY THE WORST

PERFORMING ON THAT.

JOB CREATION, PROBABLY THE BEST PERFORMER WAS OUR NEW

CORPORATE CENTER SCENARIO.

AND AVAILABLE BUS OR RAIL SERVICE, THAT REALLY ONLY

GETS BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME KIND OF INVESTMENT IN

BUS OR RAIL SERVICE AND WITH INFILL AND DEVELOPMENT

THAT'S COORDINATED WITH THAT, SO THAT BUSTLING METRO

SCENARIO DID THE BEST.

SO JUST LOOKING AT THOSE TOP THREE PRIORITIES, WHAT

DOES THIS MEAN FOR OUR THREE SCENARIOS.

WE ALSO ASKED EVERYBODY TO RATE THE THREE SCENARIOS ON

A ONE-STAR TO FIVE-STAR BASIS, SO WITH ONE STAR BEING

THE WORST AND FIVE STARS BEING THE BEST, WE ASKED THEM

TO CIRCLE A STAR.

AND HOW DID THAT TURN OUT?

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BUSTLING METRO GOT THE MOST FOUR- AND FIVE-STAR

RATINGS, SUBURBAN DREAM GOT THE MOST ONE- AND TWO-STAR

RATINGS, AND NEW CORPORATE CENTERS WAS KIND OF A MIX.

WE ASKED FOLKS TO MAKE COMMENTS, TO GIVE US THEIR

FEEDBACK, WHAT DID THEY LIKE AND WHAT DID THEY DISLIKE

ABOUT THE SCENARIOS.

SO WHY WOULD PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN BUSTLING METRO?

SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT, IT FOCUSES OUR

INVESTMENT ON A PARTICULAR AREA.

LET'S GET A BIGGER RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR WHAT WE'RE

PUTTING IN.

PRESERVES AGRICULTURAL LANDS, PRESERVES RURAL

COMMUNITIES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR MASS TRANSIT, BRINGS US

INTO THE 21st CENTURY, ALLOWS INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES

TO CREATE THEIR OWN IDENTITIES.

SO YOU HAVE SOME VARIATION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN

THE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT BE CREATED.

DECAYING PROPERTIES ARE REVITALIZED, CURRENT WETLANDS

CAN REMAIN UNTOUCHED, MAYBE LESS NEED FOR HIGHWAYS AND

ROAD WIDENING, PUTTING SHOPPING AND WORK FACILITIES

CLOSER TO HOME MAKES WALKING OR CYCLING MORE LIKELY,

AND IT'S A BENEFIT FOR SENIORS WHO CAN'T DRIVE AS THEY

GET OLDER.

SO THESE ARE -- YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOUSANDS AND

THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS, BUT THESE WERE -- ARE KIND OF

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REPRESENTATIVE OF SOME OF THE THEMES THAT WE SAW

RECURRING IN THE COMMENTS.

WE ASKED ABOUT THE ELEMENTS OF THE DIFFERENT

SCENARIOS, SO WE SHOWED DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMES,

DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOB CENTERS, AND ASKED PEOPLE TO

RATE EACH OF THOSE ON THE ONE- TO FIVE-STAR BASIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM NEW HOMES IN THE RURAL

AREA ON LARGE LOTS TO HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN

DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE, AND THE USF AREA.

THE ONES THAT WERE MOST FREQUENTLY CHOSEN WITH FOUR-

AND FIVE-STAR RATINGS WERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FILLING

IN OUR EXISTING URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS, TOWN CENTERS

WITH A MIX OF PLACES TO LIVE, REBUILD OUR COMMERCIAL

STRIP CORRIDORS WITH TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS, AND NEW

CONDOS AND APARTMENTS NEAR BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

SO ALL FOUR OF THESE CHOICES HAD MORE OF THE HIGH

RATINGS THAN THEY DID OF THE LOW RATINGS AND MORE

POSITIVES THAN NEGATIVES.

WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE NEW JOBS?

AGAIN, WE GAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ASKED

PEOPLE TO RATE THEM, AND THE TOP THREE PICKS THERE,

LET'S SEE GROWTH IN OUR EXISTING JOB CENTERS, LET'S

SEE REDEVELOPMENT AND FILLING IN OUR EXISTING

CORPORATE PARKS AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS, AND HOW ABOUT

MORE TOWN CENTERS WITH A MIX OF PLACES TO WORK.

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SO ALL THREE OF THESE OPTIONS HAD, AGAIN, MORE

POSITIVES THAN NEGATIVES.

TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, WHAT OPTIONS WILL WE NEED MORE

OF?

EVERY SINGLE TRANSPORTATION OPTION HAD MORE POSITIVES

THAN NEGATIVES, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S KIND OF A

WIDESPREAD DESIRE FOR MORE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS

OF ALL KINDS.

THE ONES WITH THE GREATEST POSITIVES WERE SMART

TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND BETTER INTERSECTIONS.

THAT WAS VERY WIDELY SUPPORTED.

COMMUTER OR LIGHT RAIL ACTUALLY HAD STRONG HIGH

RATINGS MORE THAN LOW RATINGS, SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES,

AND TRAILS, AND EXPRESS OR BUS RAPID TRANSIT.

AND THEN WE ASKED WHAT IS THE MOST -- THE FAIREST AND

MOST REASONABLE WAY TO PAY FOR THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE

THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH, SO, YOU

KNOW, NOT AS MANY POSITIVES ON THIS -- ON THIS SCREEN,

BUT THE ONES THAT HAD MORE POSITIVES THAN NEGATIVES

WERE ONE-TIME FEES ON NEW DEVELOPMENT, TOLLS ON NEW

LANES, AND THE SALES TAX BACK.

>> I GOT IT.

>>BETH ALDEN: SORRY, DID WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT

THAT SLIDE?

>>LISA MONTELIONE: [INAUDIBLE]

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THE PREVIOUS ONE.

>>BETH ALDEN: OKAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>>LISA MONTELIONE: SORRY.

>>BETH ALDEN: OKAY.

I THINK WE HAVE A COPY OF THE HANDOUT IN THE NEWSPAPER

AT YOUR PLACES FOR REFERENCE.

WE DO HAVE MANY MORE COPIES OF THAT IF ANYONE IN THE

AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE A COPY.

BUT THAT DOES PROVIDE ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION

THAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT, BOTH ON THE WEB SITE OR

AS THEY VIEWED THE PRESENTATION AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>>BETH ALDEN: OKAY.

SO THE FAIREST AND MOST REASONABLE WAYS TO PAY FOR NEW

INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAD MORE HIGH RATINGS THAN LOW RATINGS ON THESE

THREE OPTIONS, THE ONE-TIME FEES, TOLLS ON NEW LANES,

AND SALES TAX.

THE LEAST POPULAR CHOICES WERE UTILITY TAX; NO NEW

TAXES, JUST MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE; AND PROPERTY TAX.

SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE NO NEW TAXES/MAINTAIN

WHAT WE HAVE WAS RATED KIND OF LOW.

THE GAS TAX AND THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT WERE

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KIND OF SPLIT, HAD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A MIX OF THE HIGH

AND THE LOW RATINGS.

WHO WAS IT THAT GAVE US THESE OPINIONS?

THIS WAS NOT A RANDOM SAMPLE OF CAREFULLY SELECTED

HOUSEHOLDS AROUND THE COUNTY, THIS WAS A PUBLIC

ENGAGEMENT EFFORT, SO ANYONE WAS WELCOME TO

PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

THAT MEANS THAT WE DON'T -- WE CAN'T NECESSARILY

ASSURE YOU THAT THIS IS TOTALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF AN

AVERAGE CITIZEN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

THE FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATED GAVE US THEIR OPINIONS.

BUT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT WE DO HAVE ABOUT

THE RESPONDENTS IS THEIR ZIP CODE FOR ONE.

64% GAVE US A ZIP CODE IN THE COUNTY, 28% DID NOT GIVE

US A ZIP CODE AT ALL.

OF THE 64% THAT GAVE US A ZIP CODE IN THE COUNTY, WE

HAVE THIS KIND OF -- THIS PIE CHART SHOWING YOU THE

SPLIT OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM AROUND OUR COUNTY, AND

LET ME SHOW YOU THE MAP OF THOSE AREAS TOO.

ZIP CODE AREAS DON'T PERFECTLY LINE UP WITH MUNICIPAL

BOUNDARIES, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TAMPA AREA IS GOING

TO INCLUDE A NUMBER OF ADJACENT AREAS LIKE EGYPT LAKE

AND ORIENT PARK, AND SO THAT SPLIT THAT YOU SEE WITH

44% COMING FROM THE TAMPA AREA DOES INCLUDE AREAS THAT

AREN'T ACTUALLY IN THE TAMPA CITY LIMITS.

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WE ALSO ASKED FOR WORK STATUS, AND WE HAD 69% OF FOLKS

SAYING THAT THEY WORK OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME, 10%

WORKING AT HOME, 10% STUDENTS, 11% RETIRED OR

UNEMPLOYED.

WE DO THINK THAT COMMUTERS MAY BE SLIGHTLY

OVERREPRESENTED IN THIS SAMPLE, SO FOLKS WHO ARE

AFFECTED ABOUT BY A COMMUTE TRIP MAY HAVE A SOMEWHAT

STRONGER VOICE IN THIS SURVEY.

AND WHAT ARE FOLKS DOING HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?

CLEARLY, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO RESPONDED TO THIS

SURVEY WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,

BUT SOME ARE BUSINESS OR PROPERTY OWNERS, SOME PLAY OR

VISIT HERE, SOME GO TO WORK HERE OR GO TO SCHOOL HERE,

AND THEN WE HAD 54% THAT WAS A COMBINATION OF ALL OF

THOSE THINGS.

THE VAST MAJORITY ARE REGISTERED VOTERS.

WE LOOKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW DID THE RESPONSES

VARY BY THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT PEOPLE CAME FROM, AND

I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF THESE SLIDES.

WE DO HAVE A FULL BACKUP REPORT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO

GET INTO DETAIL WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT, YOU KNOW,

JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY WE WANTED TO SEE, WELL, DOES

EVERYBODY THINK THAT BUSTLING METRO IS THE BEST

CHOICE.

SO HERE'S THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF STARS GIVEN TO EACH

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SCENARIO BY EACH GEOGRAPHIC AREA, AND THAT BLUE BAR

FOR BUSTLING METRO IS THE HIGHEST OF ALL THREE

SCENARIOS IN EVERY GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

NOW, IT DOES GO UP AND DOWN, SO PLANT CITY, EAST

COUNTY, AND SOUTH COUNTY HAD LOWER SCORES FOR BUSTLING

METRO BUT STILL SUPPORTED IT AS, YOU KNOW, THE MOST

FREQUENTLY HIGHLY RATED SCENARIO.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TYPES -- I KNOW THIS IS HORRIBLE

TO LOOK AT, THIS WILL GIVE YOU A HEADACHE, BUT WE

LOOKED AT THE TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND

HOW DID PEOPLE RATE THOSE AND COMPARED THAT AROUND OUR

DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS INTERESTING HERE WAS

THAT COMMUTER OR LIGHT RAIL WAS RATED HIGHLY BY EVERY

AREA EXCEPT FOR PLANT CITY, EAST COUNTY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

[LAUGHTER]

>>BETH ALDEN: AND NEW EXPRESS TOLL LANES WAS PROBABLY

THE LOWEST RATING OF ANY OF THE TRANSPORTATION

IMPROVEMENTS, BUT YOU SAW THERE WAS ALSO A PREFERRED

FUNDING STRATEGY.

SO I -- JUST SOME NOTES.

THERE WERE SOME SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE PLANT CITY,

EAST COUNTY AREA, AND THE SOUTH COUNTY AREA.

AGRICULTURE IS A HIGHER PRIORITY IN PLANT CITY.

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IN THESE TWO MORE RURAL AREAS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT

MORE SUPPORT FOR HOMES ON RURAL LOTS, A LITTLE LESS

SUPPORT FOR HIGH-DENSITY AND JOB CENTERS, A LITTLE BIT

MORE SUPPORT FOR CREATING NEW JOB CENTERS OUT ALONG

THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS, AND A LITTLE LESS SUPPORT FOR

A COMMUTER LIGHT RAIL AND EXPRESS BUS BRT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

THIS STEP THAT WE'RE AT NOW IS TO SYNTHESIZE THIS INTO

A HYBRID SCENARIO THAT WILL THEN BE USED IN THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISIONS AND IN THE TECHNICAL

ANALYSIS FOR THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO

HELP TELL US IF WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB IDENTIFYING

NEEDS AND PRIORITY TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IT'S -- THIS LONG-RANGE VISION, THIS HYBRID

SCENARIO IS -- IT IS A VISION, IT'S NOT THE PLAN

ITSELF.

IT'S BASICALLY CONCEPTUAL GUIDANCE TO GUIDE THE

UPDATES OF THE PLANS.

WE ARE HEARING THROUGH DISCUSSION AND STAKEHOLDER

INPUT THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND USE THE BEBR MEDIUM

PROJECTION, AND SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 600,000 NEW

RESIDENTS, ABOUT 400,000 NEW JOBS, KEEPING OUR JOB-TO-

POPULATION RATIO MORE OR LESS WHERE IT IS.

AND SO TO CREATE THAT HYBRID SCENARIO, WE'D PROBABLY

TAKE ELEMENTS OF THE BUSTLING METRO, SOME ELEMENTS OF

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CORPORATE CENTERS, AND SOME ELEMENTS OF THE SUBURBAN

DREAM SCENARIO TO CREATE A SYNTHESIS.

WHAT IS THAT MIX?

WELL, THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH MIX IS FIRST, YOU KNOW,

COMING OUT OF THE SURVEY RESULTS.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, LET'S FIRST

FILL IN OUR EXISTING SUBURBAN AREAS, MAKE SURE THAT

WE'RE SHOWING BUILD OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITMENTS

THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

IN TERMS OF SORT OF NEW POLICY AREAS, YOU CAN SEE TWO

PIE SLICES HERE THAT ARE BOTH ABOUT 16%, AND ONE OF

THOSE IS TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT CONNECTING OUR

MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTERS, SO LET'S SEE SOME RESIDENTIAL

GROWTH IN THOSE KINDS OF AREAS.

AND THEN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE YOU SEE NEW

SUBURBAN EXPANSION AREAS ALSO AT ABOUT 16%, SO THAT

WOULD BE CONTEMPLATING SOME EXPANSIONS OF THE URBAN

SERVICE BOUNDARY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME NEW SUBURBAN

GROWTH.

RURAL HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE ORDER OF, LIKE, 10%

TO 15%, SO WE'D ANTICIPATE THAT STAYING ABOUT THE --

ABOUT THE SAME, AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT THAT

COULD BE INCORPORATED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, OTHER KINDS

OF REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING PROPERTIES.

THE JOB GROWTH MIX, AGAIN HERE, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITY

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WOULD BE TO FIRST FILL IN OUR EXISTING SUBURBAN AREAS,

LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE, THAT WAS CLEARLY A

PREFERENCE IN THE SURVEY, BUT THEN LET'S LOOK AT SOME

EXPANSION AREAS WITH NEW CORPORATE CENTERS AND

EXPANSION AREAS ALONG THE INTERSTATES, AND ALSO JOB

GROWTH IN TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREAS, FOCUSING

ON THOSE MAJOR ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT WE HAVE TODAY,

LIKE DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE, AND USF.

THE TRANSPORTATION MIX, THE BIG MESSAGES THAT WE WERE

GETTING OUT OF THIS WERE NO NEW TAXES, JUST MAINTAIN

WHAT WE HAVE, DON'T DO ANYTHING NEW WAS AN UNPOPULAR

CHOICE.

IF WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCES

FOR TRANSPORTATION, THESE THREE ARE PROBABLY THE THREE

THAT ARE WORTH LOOKING AT, THE IMPACT MOBILITY FEES,

TOLLS ON NEW LANES, AND SALES TAX.

CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT AROUND THE COUNTY FOR

BETTER INTERSECTIONS, SMARTER TRAFFIC SIGNALS,

WALK/BIKE FACILITIES, AND RAPID BUS.

RAIL SHOULD BE A COMPONENT BUT PROBABLY NOT

EVERYWHERE, MAYBE JUST FOCUS ON THAT URBAN CORE.

AND WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING TOLL LANES WHERE THEY

MAKE NEW EXPRESS LANES FEASIBLE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR SUGGESTIONS FOR WHERE WE GO FROM

HERE, AND I WOULD LIKE YOUR ADVICE AND GUIDANCE ON

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TAKING THIS TO THE NEXT STEP.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILMAN SUAREZ.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS STUDY, HOW ARE WE DESCRIBING --

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF BUSTLING METRO, YOU

KNOW?

I MEAN, IS THAT GIVEN TO THEM BEFORE THEY MAKE A

DECISION AS TO WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT

THEY'RE PICKING?

>>BETH ALDEN: YES.

I DIDN'T GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PRESENTATION.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT BUSTLING

METRO DEFINITION IS.

>>BETH ALDEN: SURE.

WELL, IT ACTUALLY --

>>MIKE SUAREZ: I MEAN, THAT YOU GAVE TO THEM I SHOULD

SAY.

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

WELL, IT ACTUALLY STARTED WITH --

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MIKE SUAREZ: IT'S IN THERE?

I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THIS.

I APOLOGIZE, BETH.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: [INAUDIBLE] SEE ON THE WEB SITE.

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>>MIKE SUAREZ: RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO -- ALL RIGHT.

NOW, HERE'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTRADICTORY INFORMATION

IN HERE, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF WHAT WE SEE AS ELECTED

OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, I WANT THIS BUT I DON'T WANT THAT

AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, MEANING I WILL PAY FOR THIS

ONLY IF I GET EXACTLY THIS, ALL RIGHT, WHICH I THINK

IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE SAW IN HERE.

BECAUSE PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH MAKING A BUSTLING

METRO, OKAY, MEANS THAT CHANCES ARE THE WAY THAT WE

LIVE IN TERMS OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS GOING TO BE

SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF

PROVIDING THE DENSITY NECESSARY FOR A TRANSIT SYSTEM.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT IN TERMS OF MOST OF

THE TIME.

THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS, OF COURSE, THEY SAY WE

WANT TO INFILL A LOT OF THE SUBURBAN AREAS, WHICH

MEANS THAT ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THE SUBURBAN

AREAS MORE OF A BUSTLING METRO AREA OR -- SO IF YOU

FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING, THERE IS A LOT OF

CONTRADICTION IN WHAT THE STATEMENTS ARE.

YOU KNOW, THE NO NEW TAXES IS UNPOPULAR, BUT AT THE

SAME TIME, THEY ONLY WANT ONE-TIME DEVELOPMENT TO PAY

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FOR IT, WHICH, OF COURSE, MEANS THAT THERE'S NO

MAIN -- THERE'S NO OPERATING DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY GO IN

TO TRANSPORTATION.

NOW, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE OR AM I READING THIS

KIND OF CORRECTLY HERE?

>>BETH ALDEN: I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: OKAY.

>>BETH ALDEN: I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE

HAVE.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: SO YOU WANT US TO GIVE YOU ADVICE ON

WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE DONE BASED ON THESE ANSWERS?

[LAUGHTER]

>>BETH ALDEN: WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: WELL, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S TOO MANY

GOOD SUGGESTIONS IN HERE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S -- WHAT HAPPENS IS, I THINK --

AND THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT, IT IS KIND OF THE FAULT OF

WHEN WE TRY AND GET WHAT PEOPLE FEEL IS THE RIGHT

THING TO DO AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE

BECAUSE -- AS AN EXAMPLE, AS PART OF THE GRAPH THAT

YOU SHOWED ALMOST EVERYBODY -- AND THIS IS SOMETHING

THAT I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION,

MY COLLEAGUES IN CITY COUNCIL WILL, WITHOUT A DOUBT,

AGREE WITH.

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EVERYONE THINKS THAT IF WE JUST TIME THE TRAFFIC

LIGHTS CORRECTLY, THERE WOULD BE NO MORE TRAFFIC,

OKAY.

WE HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TIME THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS BETTER

AND WE'LL BE FINE, OKAY.

NOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.

SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT DOING THESE TYPE OF STUDIES

ARE GREAT, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO FAR WE CAN GO WHEN

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VISION PLAN OR VISION, YOU KNOW,

CONCEPT BECAUSE THEN WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THE HARD

DECISIONS AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, IT REALLY

COMES DOWN TO WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR, AND THE

ONLY SURVEY THAT'S GOING TO MATTER IS ON A REFERENDUM

OR SOME -- SOME OTHER MECHANISM THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKES

PEOPLE DECIDE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT.

I THINK THE PROBLEM WE HAVE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE --

AND I THINK IT SHOWS IN HERE -- IS THAT THE

DEFINITIONS THAT WE PROVIDE THEM OR YOU PROVIDE THEM

AS A PLANNER IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE

THINKING ABOUT, AND THAT'S MY GUESS JUST BASED ON THE

RESULTS, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU -- YOU TALK ABOUT A

BUSTLING METRO, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE

BUSTLING METROS, AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A BUSTLING

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METRO OF LOS ANGELES BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE GOT HIGH

DENSITIES THAT PROVIDE LOTS OF TRANSIT ALTERNATIVES;

WHEREAS, LOS ANGELES HAS VERY FEW TRANSPORTATION

ALTERNATIVES.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S THE WAY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT

THEIR OWN SENSE OF IT.

IT'S LIKE I WANT TO BE ABLE DO THIS BUT NOT SOMETHING

ELSE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANECDOTE I JUST HEARD ON

NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO THE OTHER DAY WHICH IS -- THEY

WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SYSTEM IN THE SAN FRANCISCO

AREA, BART.

ONE OF THE RIDERS, A CONSISTENT RIDER, BECAUSE THERE'S

A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN BART RIGHT NOW,

HE SAID, IF ONLY I DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE MY CAR THE ONE

MILE TO THE PARK-N-RIDE TO TAKE INTO SAN FRANCISCO, IT

WOULD BE GREAT, SO EVERYBODY WANTS, YOU KNOW, SERVICE

AT THEIR DOOR.

AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO

GET RID OF THEIR HOMES AND LIVE IN A CONDO OR

APARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE, OF COURSE,

THAT HELPS PAY FOR TRANSIT.

SO THE ONLY REASON I MENTION ALL THIS IS BECAUSE -- I

MEAN, I GOT A LOT OF CONTRADICTORY INFORMATION BASED

ON WHAT YOU'VE GOT.

I'M SURE YOU SAW THAT TOO.

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AND, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION IS ABOUT AS CLEAR AS MUD

RIGHT NOW, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS READING

WHAT YOU GOT CORRECTLY.

>>MARK SHARPE: COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

>>MIKE SUAREZ: THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: THANK YOU.

EXPOUNDING UPON WHAT COUNCILMAN SUAREZ HAD NOTED, I

WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION.

WHAT THEY FOUND WAS UNPOPULAR WAS MAINTAINING WHAT WE

HAD?

DID THEY FIND THAT UNPOPULAR?

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR MORE TRANSIT OPTIONS?

I JUST WANTED THAT PART CLARIFIED BECAUSE YOU SAID NO

NEW TAXES, MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE IS UNPOPULAR.

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

WELL, THE QUESTION WAS WHAT'S THE FAIREST AND MOST

REASONABLE WAY TO PAY FOR THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE THAT

MAY BE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH.

SO THAT WAS A QUESTION, AND WE GAVE EIGHT POSSIBLE

OPTIONS.

SEVEN OF THEM WERE TAXES AND FEES AND ONE WAS, YOU

KNOW, DON'T DO ANY OF THAT, NO NEW TAXES, JUST

MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE, SO THERE REALLY WAS NO OTHER

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EXPLANATION OTHER THAN THAT.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF WANTED TO GET CLARIFIED BECAUSE

THAT'S A MAJOR DISCONNECT IS THAT IF IT'S UNPOPULAR TO

MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE AND PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR MORE

TRANSIT OPTIONS BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING

DONE DIFFERENT IN FUNDING SOURCES OR THEY DON'T

BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE -- WE SHOULD PAY FOR ALL THE NEW

INFRASTRUCTURE WITH EXISTING RESOURCES, THERE'S A

MAJOR DISCONNECT THERE.

IT'S LIKE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT SOMETHING

NEW BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO FIND SOME WAY TO PAY FOR

IT, AND IT'S EDUCATING PEOPLE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE

THAT THERE ARE ANY OTHER WAYS.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND TRANSIT OPTIONS, THERE HAS

TO BE A WAY THAT -- WE NEED NEW REVENUE SOURCES TO PAY

FOR THAT.

HOW AND WHERE THAT COMES FROM, THAT'S UP FOR

DISCUSSION AND DEBATE, BUT IS THAT -- IS THAT WHAT

THEY WERE SAYING?

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

I -- YEAH, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE

SAYING.

WELL, WHAT I GOT OUT OF THE RESPONSES WAS THAT THERE

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WAS SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE NEED SOME KIND OF

FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE

THAT'S NEEDED.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: BUT IT'S YOUR FEELING FROM THAT THAT

PEOPLE DO WANT MORE TRANSIT OPTIONS, THEY'RE NOT JUST

SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.

THAT'S WHAT --

>>BETH ALDEN: A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED MORE TRANSIT

OPTIONS.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE

GOT OUT OF THIS.

PART OF THE WAY I SEE YOU UTILIZE THIS IS WITH THE

TRANSPORTATION POLICY GROUP, THAT YOU KIND OF SET THIS

SIDE BY SIDE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT WE'RE

DISCUSSING ON TRANSIT AND WE CAN KIND OF REFER TO THIS

AS A GUIDELINE, BUT AS COUNCILMAN SUAREZ HAD POINTED

OUT AND OTHERS WOULD PROBABLY CONCUR, PART OF THIS

WOULD BE AN EDUCATION.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE WANTING MORE TRANSIT OPTIONS,

WELL, THEN, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOUND

TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, BUT THEN ALSO, WE HAVE TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT WAYS

HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT AND ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE

THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN THE DIFFERENT PARTS

OF THE COUNTY, AND THAT WAS CERTAINLY CLEAR TO ME WHEN

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WE WERE LOOKING AT LEAST THROUGH SOME OF THE

RESPONDENTS THAT HAD RESPONDED, YOU KNOW.

THE EAST COUNTY ARE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN

WHAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND I THINK THAT

THAT'S ALSO A LESSON LEARNED FROM THE 2010 REFERENDUM

AS WELL, SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE THOSE NEEDS

WITH DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: THANK YOU.

AND THIS DISCUSSION IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I WANTED

THAT FUNDING SLIDE TO STAY UP ON THE SCREEN, SO IF YOU

CAN GO BACK TO THAT, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE COPY

OF IT THAT WAS IN THE PACKET.

AND THE -- THE QUESTION SEEMS TO BE CENTERED AROUND

THAT ONE BAR THAT SAYS NO NEW TAXES, MAINTAIN WHAT WE

HAVE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS RATED THAT A ONE; AM

I --

>>BETH ALDEN: EITHER A ONE OR A TWO, SO THAT RED

BAR --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: OKAY.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN IT IS THE MOST UNPOPULAR --

>>MARK SHARPE: RIGHT.

>>LISA MONTELIONE:  -- OPTION, WHICH MEANS THEY WANT

TO PAY FOR IT IN SOME WAY.

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>>MARK SHARPE: RIGHT.

>>BETH ALDEN: UTILITY TAX IS PROBABLY THE MOST

UNPOPULAR ACTION --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: AND THAT'S THE POINT --

>>BETH ALDEN: -- BUT THE SECOND WAS --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: YEAH, THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING

TO MAKE.

THAT LONG RED BAR MEANS NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT --

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: -- WE DON'T WANT THIS, WE DON'T

WANT TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE DO WANT NEW

TAXES BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DOUBLE NEGATIVE.

>>BETH ALDEN: YEAH.

>>MARK SHARPE: RIGHT.

IT WAS WORDED -- IT WAS WORDED --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: OKAY.

SO THEY PREFER, IT SEEMS FROM THE GREEN BARS, WHICH

MEANS THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT --

>>BETH ALDEN: RIGHT.

>>LISA MONTELIONE:  -- THAT -- I'M SORRY MR. WAGGONER

HAS LEFT, BUT TOLLS ON NEW LANES IS -- IS ONE OF THE

MOST POPULAR WAYS OF FUNDING AND ONE-TIME NEW

DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE UNPOPULAR WITH OUR

FOLKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER

WAY THAT THE CITIZENS REALLY, REALLY LIKE OF FUNDING,

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY A SALES TAX,

WHICH IS SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED, AND

THEN THE GAS TAX.

SO IT -- AND THE UTILITY TAX SEEMS TO BE VERY, VERY

UNPOPULAR AS WELL.

>>BETH ALDEN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>LISA MONTELIONE: SO -- SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE-TIME

NEW DEVELOPMENT, GAS TAX, A SALES TAX, AND TOLLS ON

NEW LANES AS BEING THE OPTIONS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE

FAVORABLE TOWARDS TAXING THEMSELVES?

>>BETH ALDEN: WELL, WITH JUST A MINOR CORRECTION THAT

ON THE GAS TAX, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE LEAST POPULAR OF

THOSE OPTIONS THAT YOU JUST LISTED BECAUSE THAT HAD A

LOT OF --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: OF THE ONES -- RIGHT, OF THE ONES

I LISTED.

THE MOST POPULAR ONE IS ONE TIME ON NEW DEVELOPMENT BY

FAR.

>>BETH ALDEN: THE NEW TOLL LANES AND THEN SALES TAX.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: RIGHT, THEN TOLLS, THEN THE SALES

TAX.

SO -- AND THOSE ARE THINGS IN PART WE'VE BEEN

DISCUSSING.

WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING MOBILITY FEES AND A CHANGE, YOU

KNOW, MOVING AWAY FROM THE WAY WE HAD BEEN WITH

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CONCURRENCY FEES BEING LEVIED AGAINST DEVELOPERS, AND

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SALES TAX, WE'VE BEEN

TALKING ABOUT TOLLS ON NEW LANES, SO THOSE -- THOSE

THINGS ARE ALL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THE TOPIC OF

DISCUSSION, SO I JUST WANT TO -- I JUST WANTED TO

CLARIFY THAT, THAT PEOPLE DO WANT TO PAY FOR THINGS

AND THEY REALIZE THAT WHAT THEY -- WHAT THEY WANT IS

GOING TO COST MONEY TO DO.

I THINK EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT.

SO IT -- I THINK IT'S ENCOURAGING THAT THE CITIZENS

HAVE SPOKEN.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING, BUT HOW MANY

TOTAL RESPONDENTS WERE THERE?

>>BETH ALDEN: MORE THAN 3500.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: MORE THAN 3500.

SO THAT'S A -- IT'S BETTER --

>>BETH ALDEN: [INDISCERNIBLE CROSS TALK]

>>LISA MONTELIONE: -- THAN THE PREVIOUS PLANS THAT

WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK, BUT IT'S STILL A VERY SMALL

PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL POPULATION OF HILLSBOROUGH

COUNTY.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A ROAD MAP.

I KNOW DR. -- WE HAVE A ROAD MAP HERE, AND WHAT I

THINK WE NEED DO IS TO TAKE THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT

DOES GET IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY GROUP

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THAT'S MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, AND I DON'T THINK --

EVEN THIS ISSUE OF ONE-TIME NEW DEVELOPMENT AND HOW

THAT MONEY'S SPENT, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WINTHROP

WAS A BIG ISSUE, AND THE CHALLENGE WAS THE WINTHROP

AGREEMENT HAD THEM MAKING CONCURRENCY IMPROVEMENTS ON

ROADS.

THEY WANTED TO USE THEIR MONEY FOR TRANSIT, BUT THE

COUNTY -- BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS GULF BETWEEN TRANSIT

AND HART AND THE ROAD DEPARTMENT -- SAID, LOOK, YOU

CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH A ROUNDABOUT, BUT

IT WILL NOT IN ANY WAY MITIGATE THE IMPACT THAT YOU'RE

GOING TO HAVE ON OUR ROADS, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HOLD

YOU TO FIXING THE ROADS AND WE'RE NOT EVEN INTERESTED

IN THIS ROUNDABOUT.

ONCE YOU START HAVING THE COUNTY AND TRANSIT HAVING

THESE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT MAYBE THE INVESTMENT IS

SMARTER FOR A ROUNDABOUT AND PERHAPS YOU DON'T PUT IT

INTO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT OR MAYBE THE COUNTY TAKES UP

AND DOES SOME INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS -- BUT THE

POINT IS YOU USED THE ONE-TIME INVESTMENT FOR SOME OF

THESE TRANSIT CONVERSATIONS WE JUST HAD ABOUT HOW DO

YOU MAKE IT SAFER ALONG 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH?

YOU KNOW, WELL, PERHAPS WE START HAVING THOSE

CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHEN WE -- WHEN THE DEVELOPER

COMES IN, THE MONEY IS USED FOR A ROUNDABOUT OR A

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BUS -- WHAT ARE WE CALLING THEM?

>>BETH ALDEN: BUS BAY.

>>MARK SHARPE:  -- BAY, BUS BAYS AND SUCH.

SO THAT'S ONE THING WE CAN DO.

I DON'T SEE ANY DISCREPANCY WITH THE BUSTLING METRO.

I WAS IN LINCOLN, NEBRASKA, OVER THE LAST WEEKEND.

I DID 3400 MILES OF ROAD TRAVEL AND -- 34 UP AND BACK,

AND IT WAS A LOT OF ROAD TIME, BUT THERE AT THE HAY

MARKET IN LINCOLN WAS THIS INCREDIBLE BUSTLING METRO

FOR LINCOLN, NEBRASKA, THE MIDWEST.

YOU HAD TRANSIT, YOU HAD CONDOS, YOU HAD RENTAL UNITS,

YOU HAD LOTS OF BARS AND RESTAURANTS.

IT WAS A -- IT WAS A -- MORE VIBRANCY ON THEIR STREETS

IN LINCOLN THAN YOU'LL SEE HERE AND IN PART BECAUSE OF

WHAT THEY WERE BUILDING AND THE DRAW.

SO I DON'T SENSE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THEM IN

THEIR BACKYARD.

FOLKS WHO LIVE IN -- YOU KNOW, WHO LIVE IN OUR SUBURBS

LIKE THE SUBURBAN LIVING, BUT THEY PROBABLY WANT TO

HAVE ACCESS, AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING FROM OUR ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT STUDY IS THAT IN AREAS LIKE WESTSHORE AND

THEN UP TO THE NEW TAMPA AREA AND -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE

GOT -- WE'VE GOT DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE THERE'S THIS

CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE AND PERHAPS A -- THE

OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TYPE OF BUSTLING METRO, MAYBE

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EVEN A WINTHROP TYPE DEVELOPMENT IN THE BRANDON AREA.

SO WE DON'T -- YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO AND REINVENT

OURSELVES COMPLETELY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY,

BUT WE DO HAVE THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'RE ALREADY

STARTING TO SEE THESE THINGS BEING GENERATED, SO WE

JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION

WITH THE COUNTY SO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR

PLANS FOR WHAT I HOPE WE'LL BE PRODUCING TO THE PUBLIC

BACK IN -- SOMETIME IN 2014, IT TIES INTO THIS.

EVEN THE RAIL COMPONENT, PEOPLE WANT RAIL, BUT MAYBE

THEY DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, 60 MILES OF RAIL OR 20

MILES, MAYBE THEY NEED A DEMONSTRATION LINE, AND I

KNOW THAT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS HAVING CONVERSATIONS

ABOUT JUST THAT, A SMALL START THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE

AIRPORT, AND THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

AIRPORT.

SO WE HAVE THOSE -- WE HAVE --

>> [INAUDIBLE]

[LAUGHTER]

>>MARK SHARPE: NOT TO DRAW YOU INTO A -- BUT I'M

SAYING THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS TAKING PLACE NOW THAT

WOULD NOT REQUIRE US TO SPEND A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY

NECESSARILY ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO I THINK THAT

WE'RE -- WE -- YOU'VE GIVEN US A ROAD MAP, AND IT KIND

OF FITS IN NEATLY WITH WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE --

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THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY GROUP'S WORK, AND I -- YOU

KNOW, ARE YOU PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS TO --

>>BETH ALDEN: WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH COUNTY

STAFF ABOUT THAT, SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON

WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

>>MARK SHARPE: THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE --

AND WITH HART.

I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT ALL THESE

ENTITIES ARE OUT THERE GOING AND DOING THE THINGS BY

THEMSELVES.

REALLY, WE NEED TO BE SITTING DOWN AND HAVING VERY

DETAILED CONVERSATIONS TOGETHER ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING

TO BRING THIS TOGETHER.

HART'S GOT THEIR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT PLAN,

THREE SCENARIOS.

ONE OF THE SCENARIOS IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAN FOR

INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ROUTES AND THE FREQUENCY OF

BUSES.

WELL, MAYBE WE CAN USE SOME OF THAT REVENUE IF THEY GO

FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN FOR THESE ADDITIONAL STOPS.

ANYONE ELSE?

DR. POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: YEAH, JUST A COMMENT.

I THINK THAT -- I TAKE ANY ONE OF THESE SURVEYS

WITH -- WITH A LOT OF CAUTION, BUT I THINK WE'VE, OVER

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THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, HAD SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING

THE POST-REFERENDUM ANALYSES AND STUFF, AND I THINK WE

CAN DISCERN SOME -- YOU KNOW, SOME GENERAL IMPRESSIONS

THAT WE'RE GETTING IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK FROM THE

PUBLIC.

I MEAN, THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT US TO DO, QUOTE, SMART,

EFFICIENT THINGS AND UTILIZE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE

FIRST.

I MEAN, THERE'S CONSISTENCY ON THAT.

THERE'S CONSISTENCY ON THEM WANTING IMPROVED TRANSIT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A

CONSENSUS FOR THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S, NOT SURPRISINGLY, THEY'RE HUMAN,

THEIR RELUCTANCE TO -- YOU KNOW, TO SPEND ON ANYTHING,

AND IF THEY DO, THEY'D LIKE IT TO BE OTHER PEOPLE'S

MONEY, TOLL, USER FEES.

THESE SAME CORPORATIONS THAT WE'RE SEDUCING TO COME

HERE WITH INCENTIVES WE'RE NOW HAVING PAY FOR ALL THE

INFRASTRUCTURE.

I MEAN, THERE'S A FEW DISCONNECTS THERE, BUT -- BUT I

THINK WE, YOU KNOW -- AND THE FOLKS THAT TEND TO

PARTICIPATE IN THESE ARE NOT, QUOTE, AVERAGE FOLKS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE FOLKS THAT ARE MOTIVATED, ACTIVELY

ENGAGED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, MORE POWER TO THEM AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR

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INPUT, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP IT IN CONTEXT.

THE THING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO DO IS -- THE

TRANSPORTATION PROFESSION KNOWS AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT

TRAVEL BEHAVIOR AND HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY TRAVEL.

THIS IS THE KIND OF A STATED PREFERENCE SURVEY, WE

HAVE REAL REVEALED BEHAVIORS ON PEOPLE'S TRAVEL, AND

THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE PLANNING AND MODELING PROCESS IS

REALLY BASED ON, SO THIS INFORMATION ISN'T USED IN

ISOLATION, IT NEEDS TO BE USED WITH -- WITH, FRANKLY,

THE STRATEGIES AND PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT --

THAT THE PROFESSIONALS COME UP WITH, AND SO I -- I

HOPE WE DON'T OVERINTERPRET THIS.

I THINK WE NEED TO USE THIS AND THE -- AND THE SURVEYS

BEHIND IT AS -- AS INPUT, BUT THEN WE NEED TO, YOU

KNOW, DO THE HARD WORK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND

UNDERSTAND THE MARKETS AND FIND PROJECTS AND

INITIATIVES THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE AHEAD ON

THESE THINGS.

THANK YOU.

>>BETH ALDEN: OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBERS, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE STATUS REPORT.

MY QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO -- I HATE TO ASK, YOU'VE

BEEN SO PATIENT SITTING THERE -- TO DELAY AND HAVE

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THIS PRESENTED AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OR WOULD YOU

LIKE TO HEAR IT NOW?

>>SANDRA MURMAN: CAN WE HAVE AN EXPEDITED --

>>MARK SHARPE: AN EXPEDITED VERSION?

>>SANDRA MURMAN: YEAH, LIKE FIVE MINUTES.

>>MARK SHARPE: OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

IT'S STAFF REPORT "C," THE 2040 PLAN GOALS AND MAP-21.

AND, SARAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING PATIENT.

>>SARAH McKINLEY: OKAY.

WHERE ARE WE?

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT FOR YOU.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS SARAH McKINLEY, MPO STAFF.

THIS MORNING I'LL BE PRESENTING THE PROPOSED CHANGES

THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES

FOR THE 2040 LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS THE GREATER OVERHAUL OR THE NEW

2040 LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES

JUST TO SEE WHERE ANY CHANGES CAN BE MADE FOR UPDATES.

THIS IS MEANT NOT TO BE AN OVERHAUL BUT JUST A

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REFRESHER OF WHAT WE HAVE.

THE CURRENT GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES WERE

DEVELOPED FROM -- IT WAS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL IN THE

LAST ONE, AND THEY'RE DEVELOPED WITH LOTS OF PUBLIC

INPUT, MPO INPUT, AND MPO COMMITTEE INPUT, SO THAT'S

ANOTHER REASON WHY WE THINK IT'S JUST BETTER TO

REFRESH THEM AND NOT OVERHAUL THEM.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT ARE THEY?

THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OR GOPs, THEY'RE

REQUIRED BY MOVING AHEAD FOR PROGRESS IN THE 21st

CENTURY, ALSO KNOWN AS MAP-21.

THIS IS THE CURRENT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING

LEGISLATION, AND THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES

ARE ALSO USED AS A GUIDE FOR THE VISION OF THE LRTP.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE THREE MAIN DRIVING FORCES FOR THE CHANGES.

THOSE ARE OUR PRELIMINARY RESULTS FROM THE 2040

SURVEY, WE HAVE THROUGH THE EMERGING GUIDANCE OF THE

POLICY LEADERSHIP GROUP, AND ALSO THROUGH MAP-21.

ALL RIGHT.

AS BETH JUST SPOKE, THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES WE SAW

WERE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, JOB CREATION, AND

AVAILABLE BUS AND RAIL, AND ALSO MANY OF THE RESPONSES

WERE STILL ON-LINE WITH OUR CURRENT VISION OF THE

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LRTP.

ALL RIGHT.

THE POLICY LEADERSHIP GROUP, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW,

COMPRISED OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE

MAYORS FROM THE CITIES, AND THROUGH THESE -- THROUGH

THIS GROUP WE'VE SEEN EMERGING FOCUS ON SUPPORTING

CURRENT AND EMERGING ACTIVITY CENTERS AS WELL AS

PROMOTING COST-EFFECTIVENESS WHEN CHOOSING PRIORITIES

FOR PROJECTS.

AND THEN MAP-21.

AGAIN, MAP-21, THE LATEST TRANSPORTATION FUNDING

LEGISLATION.

THROUGH IT, THE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT WE'VE SEEN WERE

SOME SHIFTS TOWARDS PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND TARGETS.

THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND TARGETS ARE IN THE

PROCESS OF BEING DEVELOPED BY MPO STAFF AT THE MOMENT

AND WILL BE FOLDED INTO THE POLICIES AT A LATER DATE.

BUT THE -- IT LAID OUT THE EIGHT PRIORITIES THAT WERE

ALREADY PUT INTO THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT ARE THE TWO CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING?

THE FIRST CHANGE WAS A STRONGER EMPHASIS ON ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION.

FOR THAT WE MOVED IT TO THE FOREFRONT AS THE FIRST

GOAL AND SWITCHED THAT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL GOAL, SO

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THAT'S BEEN MOVED TO THE SECOND PLACE, AND WE'VE JUST

ADDED AN OBJECTIVE TO EMPHASIZE JOB CREATIONS ON THE

ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT WE HAVE A FOCUS FOR NOW.

AND THEN ALSO INCREASED EMPHASIS ON COST-

EFFECTIVENESS.

THE PREVIOUS GOAL HAD A LARGE EMPHASIS ON RIGHT-OF-WAY

ACQUISITION, AND WE FELT THIS WAS NOT THE MOST COST-

EFFECTIVE WHEN CHOOSING PRIORITIES FOR PROJECTS, SO WE

MOVED THAT DOWN TO A POLICY AND INSTEAD, LIKE I SAID,

CREATED A STRONGER EMPHASIS ON COST-EFFECTIVENESS.

AND HERE ARE THE TWO CHANGES WE'RE PROPOSING.

AGAIN, WE MOVED ECONOMIC VITALITY TO GOAL ONE AND

CREATED AN OBJECTIVE, PUTTING AN EMPHASIS ON PROMOTING

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION, AND HERE IS

OUR SECOND CHANGE WITH THE EMPHASIS ON COST-

EFFECTIVENESS AS BOTH THE GOAL, THE OBJECTIVE, AND THE

POLICIES THAT WILL PROMOTE THAT.

AND THEN THAT WAS IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME

KNOW.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE]

>>MARK SHARPE: COUNCILMAN COHEN.

>>HARRY COHEN: YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION.

I WONDER WHY SAFETY IS ALL THE WAY DOWN AS GOAL NUMBER

FIVE.

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IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT SAFETY OUGHT TO BE THE

PRIORITY OVER -- OVER EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE

EVEN -- BEFORE WE EVEN START RANKING ENVIRONMENTAL AND

ECONOMIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>>SARAH McKINLEY: THAT'S HOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT MOVING THAT UP, WE CAN

DO THAT AS WELL.

>>HARRY COHEN: WELL, I THINK SAFETY SHOULD BE OUR

NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, PERIOD, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE

SHOULD BE AFTER THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY -- THAT'S

JUST MY OWN VIEW.

>>MARK SHARPE: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: NO, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN COHEN.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT, YES, I WOULD PREFER THAT

YOU LOOK AT THAT AND REORDERING BECAUSE SAFETY SHOULD

BE OUR TOP PRIORITY, AND THAT WOULD ALSO ALIGN WITH

THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S GOALS BECAUSE THE STATE OF

FLORIDA HAS MOVED SAFETY UP TO THE TOP OF THEIR

PRIORITY LIST WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING -- AM I CORRECT?

I'M SEEING SHAKING HEADS YES -- THAT -- THAT WOULD

ALIGN OUR POLICIES WITH THE STATE'S POLICIES OF

PUTTING SAFETY FIRST, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S AN

EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, MR. COHEN.

AND -- AND THE ONLY OTHER -- YOU WENT VERY QUICKLY,

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BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT MOVED DOWN WAS THE

RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION, AND IT JUST SEEMS

INCONGRUOUS BECAUSE OFTEN ANY TIME WE'RE GOING TO BE

WORKING ON A ROAD, THERE'S GOING TO BE -- WHETHER IT'S

FOR HART AND THE BUS LANES OR THE BUS BAYS OR WHETHER

IT'S FOR A TRANSIT CORRIDOR OR WIDENING A ROAD, RIGHT-

OF-WAY ACQUISITION IS GOING TO BE WHAT COSTS THE MOST,

SO I THINK THAT THAT ALSO -- LOOKING AT THE COST AND

FACTORING THAT IN NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED.

>>SARAH McKINLEY: OKAY.

>>LISA MONTELIONE: BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO -- IF IT WOULD

JUST SIMPLY COST TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO

PURCHASE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE PROJECT GOES NOWHERE.

>>SARAH McKINLEY: WELL, WE'VE BEEN SEEING A GREAT

EMPHASIS ON SMALLER MORE COST-EFFECTIVE PROJECTS THAT

CAN BE DONE OR LOOKED AT PRIOR TO LARGER-SCALE

PROJECTS, SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST WANTED TO PLOT THAT,

BUT WE CAN ALSO --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MARK SHARPE: DR. POLZIN.

>>STEVE POLZIN: YEAH.

I WANT TO DRAW FOLKS' ATTENTION TO THE POLICY

STATEMENT 1 FOR OBJECTIVE REVISED 2.1, AND THIS BUILDS

ON SOME DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD WITH BOTH BETH AND

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MARK.

THIS SAYS, COOPERATE WITH THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL

TRANSIT SERVICE, TBARTA, AND THE WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA

MPO CHAIRS COORDINATING COUNCIL TO ADVANCE A REGIONAL

RAIL SYSTEM AND OTHER MAJOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION

IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REGION.

AND SEVERAL THINGS.

WE'VE -- YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AN

URBAN RAIL AND MAYBE A STARTER SYSTEM, AND TO PUT A

TECHNOLOGY INTO OUR VERY FIRST POLICY GOAL I THINK IS

POLARIZING AND NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA AND, YOU KNOW, IS

NOT NECESSARILY CONSISTENT WITH EITHER WHAT PSTA IS

DOING -- THEIR REFERENDUM HAS NO MONEY FOR -- BEYOND

THEIR INITIAL PROJECT, NOR DOES THE POLICY COMMITTEE'S

DISCUSSION NECESSARILY FOCUS ON THIS, SO I WOULD JUST

STRIKE THAT AND FOCUS ON MAJOR MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS

RATHER THAN CRAFT A TECHNOLOGY INTO A GOAL STATEMENT.

>>MARK SHARPE: WELL, I'M WONDERING IF -- I THINK PART

OF THE CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT YOU'VE GOT GREENLIGHT

PINELLAS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR EFFORT.

THERE ARE TALKS ABOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PERHAPS

HAVING A STARTER SET, OTHERS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOING

SMALLER PIECES, BUT YOU ULTIMATELY WANT TO MAKE SURE

THAT IT ALL OPERATES IN A REGIONAL FASHION.

IT ALL HAS TO CONNECT.

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>>STEVE POLZIN: SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A REGIONAL

TECHNOLOGY.

>>MARK SHARPE: NO, I THINK WE -- I'M SAYING, THOUGH,

I THINK WE CAN WORD IT -- WE CAN ADJUST THE WORDING SO

THAT --

>>STEVE POLZIN: I AGREE.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE ULTIMATELY ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE

THAT WHATEVER WE DO THAT MIGHT BE PIECEMEALED, IT DOES

ALWAYS MAINTAIN AT THE FOREFRONT THAT IT WILL BE

OPERATING AT SOME POINT IN A REGIONAL MANNER SO THAT

THEY WILL --

>>LISA MONTELIONE: WELL -- AND WE'VE ALSO HEARD

AGAIN -- NOT TO BRING UP THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF

TRANSPORTATION AGAIN, BUT WE'VE ALSO HEARD VERY

STRONGLY FROM THEM THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CONGRUENCY

ACROSS THE BAY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE -- AND THE

TRANSIT CORRIDOR FOR THE HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, AND

IN ORDER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO

INCLUDE A -- ANY TYPE OF ENHANCED STRUCTURE ON THAT

BRIDGE OR -- OR A BRIDGE OFF ANOTHER STRUCTURE TO

ACCOMMODATE RAIL, WE HAVE TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY, AND

PINELLAS HAS MADE IT A PRIORITY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY.

WE TALK, YOU KNOW -- AT THE SUMMIT IT WAS BROUGHT UP

ABOUT ALL ABOARD FLORIDA AND CONNECTIONS OF RAIL

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BETWEEN ORLANDO AND TAMPA AND MIAMI, SO I'M IN FAVOR

OF HAVING THAT -- I MEAN, WATERING DOWN THE WORDING

IS -- IS FINE, BUT IT'S -- IT'S JUST WATERED DOWN.

I'M IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT JUST THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE

WE HAVE TO HAVE -- WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF

COORDINATION REGIONALLY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE'RE GETTING READY -- WE'RE GOING TO

LOSE OUR QUORUM, SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS.

IF WE COULD BRING THIS BACK TO THE POLICY

COMMITTEE --

>>SARAH McKINLEY: OKAY.

YEAH.

>>MARK SHARPE: -- AND WE COULD TAKE IT UP AND THEN

HAVE A DETAILED CONVERSATION.

THIS WOULD BE A FABULOUS CONVERSATION FOR THEM.

THEN WHEN THE POLICY COMMITTEE IS DONE, THEY CAN BRING

IT BACK.

YOU JUST GOT HERE?

>>SARAH McKINLEY: YES.

>>MARK SHARPE: YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

>>SARAH McKINLEY: THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: WELCOME TO THE MPO.

FANTASTIC START-OFF.

THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

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ALL RIGHT.

>>SANDRA MURMAN: [INAUDIBLE] KICK THE CAN.

>>MARK SHARPE: KICK THE CAN.

[INAUDIBLE]

THERE'S SO MANY POINTS.

EVEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SAFETY, I THINK THEY

GO TOGETHER.

WHEN YOU HAVE A PLACE THAT'S SAFE, YOU CAN WALK IT.

WHEN YOU CAN WALK IT, YOU CAN HAVE ENHANCED ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE WAY WE WORD THIS -- YOU'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL

JOB, AND WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU KIND OF TAKE IT BACK,

BRING IT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE

BIT, AND THEN GET IT BACK TO US.

DOES THAT SOUND GOOD?

OKAY.

WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

FANTASTIC.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: VERY QUICKLY, INSTEAD OF MY

REPORT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO READ WHAT I'VE BEEN

DOING, BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON THE 2040 EFFORT A

LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT YOU REALLY DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE

HEARD.

GETTING 3500 PEOPLE TO SPEND 15 OR 20 MINUTES, THIS

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ISN'T JUST ONE PERSON MAKING A COMMENT AT A PUBLIC

MEETING , BUT TO ACTUALLY THOUGHTFULLY DO THIS, I

DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SURPRISED BY IT'S MUDDY

BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE MUDDY BECAUSE PEOPLE

WANT DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE HAVE TO FACE THAT.

I KNOW IT'S EASY TO WANT A SILVER BULLET.

THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET.

SO I'M JUST PREPARING YOU FOR A YEAR OF HARD WORK AND

DELIBERATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AT THE POLICY

COMMITTEE, AS COMMISSIONER BECKNER SUGGESTED, BUT

THERE ARE GOING TO BE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO HAVE.

WE HAVE A COMPLEX COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT

DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY

WANT IN THEIR DIFFERENT AREAS AS BEST WE CAN, BUT

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

WITH THAT, OUR NEXT MPO MEETING IS JANUARY 7th AT 9:00

A.M.

EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS.

AND I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON MY MOST CHALLENGING THING

IN THE LAST MONTH WAS GOING TO A SCHOOL FOR A TEACH-IN

THINKING I WAS GOING TO TALK TO HIGH SCHOOL KIDS AND

BEING TOLD THAT I WAS TALKING TO FIRST GRADERS ABOUT

THE MPO AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

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I -- YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT THROUGH IT SOMEHOW, BUT

EVERY WORD I USED HAD TO CHANGE.

THANK YOU.

>>MARK SHARPE: ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BECKNER.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: YEAH, I JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF ITEM.

WHAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING,

THE PASSING OF JOE AMON, I STILL SAT HERE REELING A

LITTLE BIT FROM THAT BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT HIS

COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE PUBLIC IN HERE, AND WHAT I

THOUGHT IS MAYBE IF WE COULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK

MAYBE IN FEBRUARY, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE FAMILY

AND INTERNALLY, TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S AN

APPROPRIATE WAY THAT WE CAN RECOGNIZE MR. AMON FOR HIS

PUBLIC SERVICE AND WHAT HE'S DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>>RAY CHIARAMONTE: YES.

I THINK HIS SERVICE ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE AFTER THE

HOLIDAYS.

>>KEVIN BECKNER: YEAH.

IF YOU WOULD JUST TALK INTERNALLY AND TALK WITH THE

FAMILY AND SEE WHAT THE BEST WAY IS THAT WE COULD

RECOGNIZE HIM.

>>MARK SHARPE: WE STAND ADJOURNED.