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Time Enough for… Love Studies!
“To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts
dead.”
--- Bertrand Russell
“Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a
teardrop.”
--- Anonymous
"Love gives nothing but itself and takes nothing but from itself"
--- Khalil Gibran
Black and white is always more romantic.
Less distracting colours!
Special thanks Esraa, Lucia, Rana and Ahmed!
Notice how the two faces are
melding together? There’s naughty
stuff going on but the naughty
‘bits’ are all covered, so ‘love’ is
what’s really going on here. And its
in black and white too!
Must first off make a three-way distinction between like, love and lust. Love is
supposed to be an uncontrollable emotion, and if it wasn’t, it would be love. Liking is a bit more rational, involving an appraisal of
someone or something.
Basics of ‘love’, not love-making!
Thanks to Nour Osman!
Sorry for
the colours.
Too sensual
and loud!
Klaatu: If you stay, you'll die.
Mr. Wu: I know. This is my home now.
Klaatu: You yourself called them a destructive race.
Mr. Wu: That's true. But still, there is another side. You see, I... I love them. It is a very strange thing. I...
I... I can't find a way to explain it to you. For many years I cursed my luck for being sent here. Human life
is difficult. But as this life is coming to an end... I consider myself lucky... to have lived it.
See Skolnick, pp. 243-247.
Thanks Sally
Abdel Aal!
Here’s a perfect illustration of the
love/like distinction. You can love
someone without liking them (their
lifestyle, values, looks, etc.)!
Zick Rubin
Zick Rubin is a renowned American psychologist. He measured love using the psychometric scale. He stated that love encompasses the feelings of attachment, caring, and intimacy. Rubin is known for his
famous experiment in the early 1970's in which he asked 198 undergrads to fill out 2 separate questionnaires. The surveys
contained questions like the following:
Items Measuring Liking .1I feel that _ is a very stable person. .2I have confidence in _’s opinions.
Items Measuring Loving
.1. I feel strong feelings of possessiveness towards
.2confides in me. I like it when
.3I would do almost anything for _.
http://psychology.about.com/od/loveandattraction/a/likingloving.( )htm
Triangular Theory of Love
The Triangular Theory of Love was theorized by Robert Sternberg. The theory stated that there are three essential parts of love:
intimacy, passion, and commitment. When different parts of these elements of love are combined, it creates distinct feelings (similar to
the statements made in The Colors of Love). Compassionate love is created when commitment and intimacy are combined, while
passionate love is a mix of intimacy and passionate. The rarest, longest lasting love, Sternberg stated, is consummate love, which is
where all three elements of love come together. http://appsychtextbk.wikispaces.com/Love
It’s easy to get these concepts confused
and, there is a lot of overlap, even
chemically. Also, they aren’t mutually
exclusive. But the important thing to
realise is that men are more aware of
these distinctions than women are and,
even when it comes just to love
romantically concieved, its the men who are the true romantics!
Why should the : The Dukecourtesan chose the penniless sitar
player over the maharajah who is offering her a lifetime of security?
That's real love. Once the sitar player has satisfied his lust he will
leave her with nothing. I suggest that the courtesan chose the
maharajah.
Thanks Sally Abdel Aal
There’s lots of reasons for this,
social, physiological and
psychological. One, men can
afford to be in love since they’re
economically independent. Two,
we’re less emotionally mature (we
mature physically and mentally at
a later date than women) so have
sex or fall in love or both at a later
date. Thirdly, we’re emotionally
starved people, not allowed to let
emotions intrude into work life.
Our lives are very controlled and
very lonely (emphasis on
individualism, independence and
not needing people), and we get
fed up with it after a while and
want to go to the opposite
extreme and risk it all.
Dinero
casino
] When you love over-voice: [Ace Rothsteinsomeone, you've gotta trust them. There's no other way. You've got to give them the key to
everything that's yours. Otherwise, what's the point? And for a while, I believed, that's the
kind of love I had.
But it just goes to show that men ‘invented’ the concept of
love, not women. Gentlemanliness and being courteous to
women developed out of romantic concerns, and with...
There’s a book by a
woman about how men
fall for bitches. That’s not
quite it. Men aren’t into
bad girls (in the same way
girls are into bad boys –
see below), but men are
into wild women. We’re
looking for the women
that’s a concept or
complete us, help us get
out of our self-imposed
problems. Alas, women
are even more messed up
than we are!
Skolnick in
the flesh!
... that the elevation of women from mere sex
objects. This came with the shift from paganism to
Christianity, since ancient Greek and Roman
women of wealth weren’t any more educated that
slaves and servants, and so seen as something
only worthy of sex and reproduction. You can see
this in the European tradition of kissing under the
mistletoe at Christmas time. Its meant to be sweet
and romantic. The only catch was that in the
Middle Ages, romance was seen as something you
did outside of marriage because it avoided the
social obligations of marriage, while the pure kind
of love men – especially knights – felt was towards
mothers, the Queen, and the Virgin Mother.
The notion that ‘love and marriage go together
like a horse and carriage’ – the theme song for
this series – is actually a Protestant notion. The
Reformation made the perfectly rational
argument that even loving outside of marriage
is forbidden, a form of betrayal, which in turn
means that love and sexual enjoyment has to
happen in the context of holy matrimony. This is
identical to the logic in Islam, where you
actually get rewarded (garner hasanat) if you
enjoy sex in marriage. When asked about this,
the Prophet (PBUH) said, if you enjoy sex in
sin, won’t you get extra punishment from God?!
But what about ‘Arabs’, how do they
see ‘love’? Do they understand it in
purely sexual terms, and even if
they do, why would they not want
that kind of love to exist in
marriage? Could it be they don’t
trust women and see love as
in this battle of wills weaknessbetween wives, husbands and their
respective families?!!
This is the Arabic and generally female
way of approaching love, where it’s like a
water tap that you can turn on and off at a
moment’s notice. If they only knew how
long it took men to evolve the concept of
love and de-sex it, and for them!
After and before! PLAYBOY: You have said that the kind of man who spends his time running after women is a man who
"despises himself." Would you elaborate?
RAND: This type of man is reversing cause and effect in regard to sex. Sex is an expression of a man's self-
esteem, of his own self-value. But the man who does not value himself tries to reverse this process. He tries
to derive his self-esteem from his sexual conquests, which cannot be done. He cannot acquire his own
value from the number of women who regard him as valuable. Yet that is the hopeless thing which he
attempts.
Ayn Rand, Playboy Interview, 1964
Remember, women have a far
more masculine view of men
than men have, and are
looking for equal opposites
themselves – someone who
isn’t insecure as they are.
They aren’t into sympathy and
appreciation of the sensitive
realities of us guys so have no
respect for lack of confidence.
And they’re into saying stuff
that isn’t true as long as it
beautifies themselves.
At the same
time you really
shouldn’t overdo it
or they’ve taking
you literally!
To be continued!
Girls use the term boyfriend to refer to their
boyfriends (usually bad boys), but ‘friend’ to
boys who are just friends (usually good boys),
but use the word girlfriend to refer to girls who
are just friends. Men only use the word friend
when talking about boys and girls, except for
girlfriend who are girlfriends. Men are more
polarized in their thinking and less objective
when it comes to biological ‘things’
(euphemisms like private parts, draining the
lizard, boning a chick, etc.)
Ah, but
does half
Brazilian
Meisa
Kuroki
find them
exciting?
And women, being their own worst enemy,
actually buy into the Aristotelian dictum
that true friendship only exists between
equals (not rich and poor, education and
ignorant) and men, which means they
can’t handle friends who are women –
jealousy and incomplete halves – so they
seek out men. But, at the same time, they
can’t have proper friendships with them
because the men crave their bodies.
Don’t worry, this stereotyped way of think is grounded in ancient homosexuality, which is
misogynistic. Hence Platonic love, trying to downgrade male love for women as sex, as a
disguised desire for procreation. Sound familiar? Alas, we don’t even have a word for
‘like’ in Arabic when it comes to women!
Happens to women too when they get disrespected by men and betrayed by them, or they
run out of men to have monogamous relationship with – ever heard of Sodom and Gomorra
and the Greek island of Lesbos or New York's surplus women problem?!
Just friends
or sex
without
love?!
In Egypt we don’t even talk about friends, when it
comes to men and women. We say zamala
(colleaguality) instead. A friend of mine did her MA
thesis on zamala, sadaqa and hub in Egypt, back in
the 1960s admittedly, and found consistent results
across the board on this three-way distinction.
A real man wouldn’t
his love-sex object
with anybody, and
its a mistake to
marry your best
friend, but an even
bigger mistake to
cheat on her!
Alma: I - I won't marry you because I don't want to be the wife of a soldier.
Robert E. Lee "Prew' Prewitt: Well, that... would be about the best I could ever do for you.
Alma: Because nobody's going to stop me from my plan. Nobody, nothing. Because I want to be
proper! Robert E. Lee "Prew' Prewitt: Proper.
Alma: Yes, proper! In another year I'll have enough money saved. Then I'm going to go back to my home town in Oregon, and I'm going to build a house for my mother and myself, and join the
country club and take up golf. Then I'll meet the proper man with the proper position, to make a
proper wife, and can run a proper home and raise proper children. And I'll be HAPPY because when
you're PROPER you're SAFE! Robert E. Lee "Prew' Prewitt: You've got guts,
honey. I hope you can pull that off. Alma: I do mean it when I say I need you. 'Cause
I'm lonely. You think I'm lying, don't you? Robert E. Lee "Prew' Prewitt: Nobody ever lies
about being lonely.
In point of fact, women aren’t
into love studies either, they’re
into security studies!
See Skolnick,
pp. 244.
Ideally someone you like is your friend but someone you love is the person you marry,
but things are never so simple, especially with women. Women can love someone and not
marry him, and marry someone else they just like. At the same time, they can marry
someone they don’t love or like but convince themselves they love and/or like him
afterwards, and forget the difference! To make matters worse, women deny this and
insist they are romantic, and insist even more than their source of security – husband – be
romantic, for no good reason at all given why she married him to begin with.
A man can marry on old bag for her money, but
he’d never convince himself he loves her!
Istikrar or
excitement?
Father figure is a ‘security’
figure, especially…
… if he’s old and rich enough to bail out your actual father!
They want
kids too, to
tie their
men down,
even it
ruins their
health and
looks!
What’s even worse than this is that they decide to
love someone, and then decide not to love them
anymore and break it off. Statistically, women
initiate divorce more than men. The notion of love
as an uncontrollable emotion is ‘alien’ to them
(hint, hint), hence the hopeless romantic persona.
When women say they are romantic, they mean
they want to be romanced by a man, while they
can stay exactly the way they are. I mean, why
else do women like men in uniforms? It’s what the
uniform signifies, ‘economic’ security.
Here’s
my
solution.
Get them in
the army to
get them
honourable,
secure and
so romantic!
Thanks Dr
Marlene!
More generally, women confuse love of a person with love of what that person
, such as economic security and representssocial independence, so they can easily
transfer their emotions from one guy who seems to embody these needs, to another guy
who seems to embody them even more. It’s not that women automatically crave stability and aren’t dreamers at heart, they are, they just repress these desires then take it out on
their husbands when they aren’t romantic enough – too busy providing economic security
to their women, as originally requested!
Dr. Bill Harford: No dream is ever just a dream.
Alice Harford: Millions of years of evolution, right? Right? Men have to stick it in every place they can,
but for women... women it is just about security and commitment and whatever the fuck else!
Dr. Bill Harford: A little oversimplified, Alice, but yes, something like that.
Alice Harford: If you men only knew... Alice
Harford: If he wanted
me, I would give up
everything.
Alice Harford: ...And at no time did he
ever leave my mind.
What is even worse than that
this is that women are unaware
of it. They don’t remember
anything they don’t want to,
and remember what they want
to have happened, The female
mind, like the Arab mind, is
schizophrenic, into memory
invention!
Is that
what he
did, or
what you
wanted
him to
do?
Women actually want
to have sex with their
husbands, and enjoy
it. What’ll they think
of next? Intelligent
conversations!
Men have to be forced not to
remember. Women do it by
themselves, and fantasy more
important than reality for them.
It’s true for guys too, but at least
we can tell the difference!
Do kids
tie
women
down, I
wonder?!
Turn your back on
them one second
and they literally
forget you!
Cold colours,
cold look!
Note that unhappy people
always have affairs first then
get divorced, or don’t get
divorced at all. Why? The thrill
of doing something wrong!
And remember, women aren’t
into being ‘trusted’ by their
men. They want their men to
be possessive and jealous
(indicators love and so the
fear they’ll head off after
another woman), then
complain about being chocked
by them afterwards! And
stealing someone else’s wife
or husband is always more
fun!
See Skolnick,
pp. 250-252.
[a tall stranger drinks from Alice's wine
glass] Alice Harford: Umm, I think that's
my glass. Sandor Szavost: I'm
absolutely certain of it.
Latin men
(Hungarian
too?!) prove
their manliness
by stealing
other men’s
wives, then
worry about
their own being
stolen. See
Skolnick, pp.
234-236!
Jealousy, then, is perfectly okay and called for and not childish. The only man who
doesn’t get jealous is, well, not a man. At the same time, women themselves like looking
appreciated!and beyond sex, because they confuse looking sexy with being maternal
Hijab!
Like love and love-making, the love-like distinction is especially
important for us as Arabs. This is because, in the Arabic language,
we don’t really make that distinction. Hub is Arabic means both
love and like, demonstrating that Arabs are a black and white
people – they either love something or hate it. So we don’t simply
like potato salad, they ‘love’ it, they absolutely hate it.
Love
isn’t a
feeling,
its an
emotion,
understa
nding
combine
d with
sensatio
ns.
Cognitio
n again!
See
Skolnick,
pp. 253.
The enemy!
Love
turned to
hate!
… then if they change their mind, And love can easily turn into hate since
they have similar psycho-neural characteristics – strong emotions
coming from below that you’re not entirely sure of.
Man haba baad adaqwa
(he who loved till after
animosity)!
I will say ‘one’ thing in favour of
Arabs. Old Arabs did have the
notion of hub uzri (virginal love),
but modern day Arabs –
especially women – have
squandered this tradition. And it’s
not Platonic love because its
between men and women, even
after they’ve married and had sex!
ينأى بنفسه .. حالة عاطفية وإرتباط روحي.. الحب العذري عن كل عالقة فيزيائية
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20-46-11-16-10-2012
Even leaving like and lust
aside, love is a contradictory
emotion in itself, making you
feel the opposite of love, or at
least feel other emotions you
assume have nothing to do
with love. When they say make
love, not war, then should be
careful since it’s strong
emotions like love that are
often the root cause of war –
something they figured out in
the axial age!
Even computers know more
about love than us Arabs do!