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OneDrive, TwoDriveWhiteDrive, BlueDrive

A WALK THROUGH THE MYSTERIES OF ONEDRIVEJohn P [email protected]@diverdown1964http://whitepages.unlimitedviz.com


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Agenda• Why talk about this?• History• Configuration of the OneDrives• Confusion• Miscellaneous• Questions


Why?

Many, many conversations


No Device Independence

Authentication User Profile Settings Files Applications

Pre – Windows 8 Files

Authentication User Profile Settings Files Applications


Device Independence

User Profile Settings Files Applications “Modern” Applications Win 32 Applications

Windows 8+ Authentication User Profile Settings Files “Modern” Applications

User Profile Settings Files Applications “Modern” Applications Win 32 Applications


HISTORY - TWODRIVE


OneDrive History

2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015

Windows Live Folders

Live Mesh and Live Desktop


SkyDrive vs Live Mesh


OneDrive History

2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015

Windows Live Folders

Live Mesh and Live Desktop

NGSC


OneDrive for Business History

1985 - Creates Lotus Notes1995 - IBM Buys Lotus for $3.5 B 1997 - Leaves Lotus1997 - Groove Networks Founded2005 - Microsoft buys Groove Networks2006 - Microsoft CTO/CAA2008 - Introduces Windows Azure2011 - Leaves Microsoft2012 - Founds Talko2015 - Microsoft buys Talko

Ray Ozzie


1997 1999 2001 2003 2005 2007 2009 2011 2013 2015 NGSC

Groove Created Groove Acquired

Groove 2007 Released

SharePoint Workspace 2010


Groove

Groove Server

Groove Server

Groove Clients


Groove 2007

Groove Server

Groove Clients


SharePoint 2010

SharePoint Workspace 2010


SharePoint 2013


OneDrive for Business vs SharePoint Libraries• OneDrive is the Documents library in the user’s MySite• SharePoint libraries can exist anywhere • SharePoint sites• Office 365 Groups

• All required the OneDrive for Business sync engine


Synchronization (Past)

Cloud Repositories

Client Side Sync Tools


OneDrive for Business Limitations• 20,000 items across libraries• 5,000 items per library• SharePoint file name limits

• 2013 – 128 characters• Online & 2016 – 256 characters

• 250 character folder names• 2 GB file size max• Invalid characters

• SharePoint 2013 - \ /:*?"<>|#{}%~&• SP Online & 2016 - \ /:*?"<>|#%

• Restricted file names and types


OneDrive Limitations•10 GB file size max


Synchronization (NGSC)

Cloud Repositories



Synchronization (Q4 2016)

Cloud Repositories



ThreeDrive


ONEDRIVE IN ACTION


Confusion• Windows libraries vs OneDrive libraries• To see synced folders in the old client, you have to

"delete" them.• Groups folders all go under the SharePoint folder• They ARE SharePoint libraries• They are referred to as OneDrives


Confusion - Acquiring the Bits

OneDrive and OD4B(Windows 7 - 8.1)

OneDrive and OD4BWindows 10

OneDrive for Business

(the old “Groove” client)- OneDrive Download Sitehttps://onedrive.live.com/about/download/

- Windows 10 1511+ Update - Office Install (2013 & 2016)- KB Article 2903984https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/2903984


Confusion – Overly Consistent Naming


Confusion – Inconsistent Naming

Windows Explorer System Tray Processes


Confusion – Inconsistent Naming

What’s with the SharePoint icon?!?

Office Documents


Confusion – Location

Libraries

Root

Libraries

Folders


Sync Client Differences

Next Gen Sync Client OD4B Sync Client


Symbolic Links

• mklink /J DestinationFolderPath SourceFolderPath• Shell Extension• http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/

hardlinkshellext.html#download


Storage Plans• OneDrive

• 5 GB free• Additional 50 GB - $2/month• 1 TB with Office 365 subscription

• OneDrive for Business (personal library)• Unlimited Storage – “just ask for more”

• Office 365 Enterprise E3-E5• Office 365 Government E3-E5• Office 365 Education• OneDrive for Business/SharePoint Online Plan 2

• 1 TB Storage – All other Office 365 Enterprise, Business and Standalone plans• SharePoint Online• 10GB 1 TB + 500MB/user base allocation• $0.20/GB/Month extra storage


Enabling Unlimited Storage in OD4B• Options:

Create a support incidentorDo it yourself

• Get SharePoint Online Management Shell (PowerShell cmdlets)• https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=35588• May require Windows < 10

• Run Connect-SPOService -Url https://tenantspace-admin.sharepoint.com -credential adminuser

• Will not work with Multi Factor Authentication• Run

Set-SPOSite -Identity https://tenantspace-my.sharepoint.com/personal/upn_tenantspace_domainext -StorageQuota 5242880

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=35588


ComparisonOneDrive OneDrive for

BusinessDropBox DropBox

BusinessGoogle Drive Amazon

CloudDriveFree allocation 5 GB N/A 2 GB N/A 15 GB N/ACost 5 TB/5 users

$100/year O365 Home*

1 TB - $60/year (SMB)Unlimited - $240/year* (E3)

1 TB - $120/year 5 TB/5 Users - $750/year

1 TB - $120/year $60/year (unlimited)

Apps Win32, Win Universal, IOS, Android

Win32, Win Universal, IOS, Android



Win32, IOS, Android

Win32, IOS, Android

Sync Client Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes** NoSync Performance

Fair Fair/Poor Excellent Excellent Good N/AIntegration Excellent Excellent Good Good Fair Poor

* Included as part of a bundle with Office applications** Separate sync clients and plans for music and photos


OneDrive as Backup• Semi suitable for disaster recovery• Unsuitable for point in time backup


Conclusions• We are in a transition phase• You need both sync clients if you use SharePoint• Best choice for integration• Great value• Suggest a blend


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