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The Christian Mohammedans Faisal Rahman

Christian idolatry and The christian mohammedans

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The Christian MohammedansFaisal Rahman

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Topic• In this thesis I am going to show that Trinity and idolatry

is against the fundamental principles of the Abrahamic religion and that is why Christianity is with out any basis. Trinity and idolatry are component of the Hinduism .

• The wise Christians , Like Newton, were actually Mohammedans.

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Idolatry in Bible• “You shall have no other gods

before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.” (exodus 20:3-6)

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• The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of human hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; they have eyes, but do not see; they have ears, but do not hear, nor is there any breath in their mouths. Those who make them become like them, so do all who trust in them!(Psalm135 :15-18)

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• The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk,(Revelation 9:20)

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• So we can see that the old testament clearly says that idolatry is a fundamental sin.

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The problems with Christianity:Trinity• In Trinitarian doctrine, God

exists as three persons or hypostases, but is one being, having a single divine nature. The members of the Trinity are co-equal and co-eternal, one in essence, nature, power, action, and will. As stated in the Athanasian Creed, the Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated, and all three are eternal without beginning."

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• “The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" are not names for different parts of God, but one name for God because three persons exist in God as one entity. They cannot be separate from one another. Each person is understood as having the identical essence or nature, not merely similar natures.

• (Wikipedia)

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• Now we now from arithmetic

• 1+1+1 =3 and not 1• Even in Quantum Physics • Triplet of Quarks break into 3

separate Quarks namely Red ,blue and green.

• So What does trinity means ? that if unison of 3 Gods is bombarded by some cosmic force they would break into 3 separate Gods ?

• Then there are 3 gods ! ( God forbid)

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• Now my Christian friends can say :The God allows trinity and it is Ok to believe in Trinity ! Then consider the following argument:

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• The "Trimūrti"is a concept in Hinduism "in which the cosmic functions of creation, maintenance, and destruction are personified by the forms of Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer or transformer.“(

Wikipedia)

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• The Hindus can also say that The God is 3 in 1 .

• Then where is the difference between the Christianity and the Hinduism ?

• The Christian religion does not remain like an Abrahamic religion; it becomes a pagan religion.

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The problems with Christianity : Idolatry of the Christ.• The Christians worship

Jesus as God , which is completely idolatry ! And that Goes against the First principle of The Abrahamic Religion!

• Again that Christianity no longer remains an Abrahamic religion it becomes a pagan one.

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• Now my Christian friends can say that Jesus is the son of the God so it is right to worship Christ as god . But then again The Hindu can say that the Krishna is the Avatar of the God so it is logical to worship him. So where is the difference between the Christianity and Hinduism?

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• My basic argument is: Christianity has trinity and Hinduism has Trinity .

• Christians worship Jesus as god , Hindu worship Krishna as god.

• Then, Christianity =Hinduism.

• The Christianity looses its distinction as an Abrahamic religion.

• Therefore idolatry and trinity can’t be a part of the original Christianity that Jesus had preached.

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• Now I am going to discuss the religious faiths of several prominent Christians to strengthen my point further.

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Arians• Arians do not believe in the

traditional doctrine of the Trinity, which holds that God encompasses three persons in one being. The letter of Arian Auxentius regarding the Arian missionary Ulfilas gives the clearest picture of Arian beliefs. Arian Ulfilas, who was ordained a bishop by Arian Eusebius of Nicomedia and returned to his people to work as a missionary, believed

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• : God, the Father, ("unbegotten" God; Almighty God) always existing and who is the only true God (John 17:3). Son of God, Jesus Christ, ("only-begotten God" John 1:18; Mighty God Isaiah 9:6) begotten before time began (Proverbs 8:22-29; Revelation 3:14; Colossians 1:15) and who is Lord/Master (1 Cor 8:6). The Holy Spirit (the illuminating and sanctifying power, who is neither God nor Lord/Master.(Wikipedia)

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Socinianism• Socinian theology, as

summarized in the Racovian Catechism, rejected the views of orthodox Christian theology on God's knowledge, on the doctrine of the Trinity and the divinity of Christ, and on soteriology.

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• Christology• The Racovian publications, like

the Sozzinis, rejected the pre-existence of Christ and held that Jesus Christ did not exist until he was conceived of the virgin birth as a human being. This view had been put forward before by the 4th-century bishop Photinus, but it differed from the mainline Protestant, Eastern Orthodox and Catholic views, which hold that the Logos referred to in the Gospel of John was God, thus is uncreated and eternal.(Wikipedia)

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Isaac Newton• According to most

scholars, Newton was Arian not holding to Trinitarianism 'In Newton's eyes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin'. As well as being anti Trinitarian, Newton allegedly rejected the orthodox doctrines of the immortal soul a personal devil and literal demons

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• Although he was not a Socinian he shared many similar beliefs with them. A manuscript he sent to John Locke in which he disputed the existence of the Trinity was never published.(Wikipedia)

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• Newton wrote a long article about the passage found in 1 John 5:7 in the King James Version, which indeed sounds a bit like the Athanasian Creed: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one” (1 John 5:7). Not satisfied with this passage, Newton went back and read the text of the Vulgate as well as the original Greek. He showed that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one” did not appear in the original Greek manuscripts.(Jones,E.S.)

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• So Sir Isaac Newton rejected the Trinitirianism , Idolatry of the Christ.

• He believed that the God is 1 and Jesus was a human.

• He realized that trinity and idolatry is the component of Hinduism and not Abrahamic religion.

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Jesus in Quran• 72. Surely, they have

disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode . And for theZalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.(Quran: Maidah)

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• 73. Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them. (Quran: Maidah)

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• Newton’s believes were consistent with the teachings of Al Quran, Though he was a Christian his believes were like that of the Mohamedans’.

• Quran says •  Allah bears witness that La ilaha illa

Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), and the angels, and those having knowledge (also give this witness); (He is always) maintaining His creation in Justice. La ilah illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. (Imran:`18)

• Newton was a wise man , he realized , there is , only one God,.

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Charles Darwin• Fame and honors brought a

stream of enquiries about Darwin's religious views, leading him to comment "Half the fools throughout Europe write to ask me the stupidest questions." He sometimes retorted sharply, "I am sorry to have to inform you that I do not believe in the Bible as a divine revelation, & therefore not in Jesus Christ as the Son of God",

• (Wikipedia)

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• "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God.— I think that generally (& more and more so as I grow older) but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind.“—Darwin. (Wikipedia)

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Islam and atheism• The Kalma (basic faith) of

Islam has two parts :• La Ilaha , Illa Allah • =There is no God , but one

God.• So Atheism is the first part

of the kalma. When Darwin said “there is no God “ he said “ La Ilaha “ in Arabic.

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Islam and Darwinism• He realized that, the survival

of the fittest is the law of nature.

• So the Christian doctrine that the God is loving ,forgiving and merciful is not scientific.

• “ For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”.(John3:16)

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• Allah Says in the Holy Qur'an: And fear Allah, Verily, Allâh is Severe in punishment [59:7].

• Quran says God is the severe punisher . Darwinism is more consistent with Quran than Bilble.

• “Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory” ( Quran: hajj :30)

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• Quran Supports fighting wars which is consistent with the theory of Social Darwinism.

• So What can we see?• Darwin was an atheist .• Darwinism supports war

and cruelty.• These are consistent with

Islam ,therefore Darwin was more of a Mohammedan than a Christian.

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Ernest Hemingway• Modernist writer

Hemingway wrote short story : a clean well lighted place: where an old waiter used to pray by substituting the words in significant places.

• “Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name thy kingdom nada thy will be nada in nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us not into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee.”

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• Nada is a Spanish word; means Nothing, so the old man is praying ““Our 0 who art in o, 0 be thy name thy kingdom 0 thy will be 0 in 0 as it is in 0. Give us this 0 our daily 0 and ……..”

• He is saying God =0 ( And not 3 ) It is like first part of the kalma “ La ilaha “( =There is no God).

• Therefore ,this Christian is more like a Mohammedan than a Christian.

• Hemingway was a wise man , he knew trinity is unscientific.

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• The belief of the crucifixion

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• Jesus Christ dying on the cross for the sins of the mankind is not an exclusive Christian idea. It is found in the Aztec legend of the Quetzalcoatl.

• the Mexican God is represented crucified and nailed to the cross, and in another place hanging to it, with a cross in his hands. And in one instance, where the figure is not merely outlined, the cross is red, the clothes are colored, and the face and hands quite black.

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• The similarities between the Christ and the Quetzalcoatl is so striking that some “intellectual” claim that it is the Christ who went to Mexico via India (Matlock, D.G.)

• My point is that “ the God or the son of the God , crucified on the cross for the sin of the mankind “ is a pagan concept; not an Abrahamic one.

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• "And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain". Quran. 4:157

• Quran rejects the concept that Jesus was ever crucified. Islam is nearer to the Abrahamic religion than Christianity.

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Bertrand Russell• Russell did not believe

that God exists. As we have mentioned already , the Kalma

• Has two part La ilaha , Illa Allah , = there is no God , but one God. In Arabic he is saying “La ilaha”.

• First part of the Kalma.• Also , God =0 means,

idolatry =0 .• Russell is an atheist,

means he is rejecting idolatry

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• Bertrand Russell believed that the Christ never existed.

• That means he denies the believe in Crucifixion.

• So, Russell rejected the idolatry of the Christ and the Crucifixion .

• He was more of a Mohammedan than a Christian.

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Conclusion• The Old Testament says ,

there is only one God and idolatry is a fundamental sin.

• But Christianity says There are three Gods (in one) and Idolatry of the Christ is permitted.

• So Christianity contradicts with the Abrahamic religion.

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• Now a Christian can argue that the trinity and the idolatry of Jesus, is the New dispensation.

• Then a Hindu can argue that the Trinity of Vishnu ,Brahma and Shiva unites to form one God and the idolatry of Krishna as God is the Testament.

• Therefore Christianity becomes Hinduism rather than Abrahamism.

• This is the reason why , the wise among the Christians rejected the Christianity.

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References:

• For Newton:• Religious views of Isaac Newton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi

a• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton• A Brief Survey of Sir Isaac Newton's Views on Religion | Religiou

s ...• https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/converging.../brief-survey-sir-isaac-

newtons-views-religi.• For Paganism and Christianity:• Parallels between the Christian gospels and Pagan mythology• www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.htm• Brown, Dan. Angels & Demons , Pocket Books : 2000.• For QuetzalCoatl:• Was Mexico's God Quetzalcoatl Jesus Christ? - Viewzone• www.viewzone.com/gene.word.htm

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