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Alone and inside the mind of aserial killer - Serial KiIIers: Up Close and Very Personal. But why would a privately educated daughter of a chartered surveyor in Surrey want to spend her time speaking and listening to these dangerous killers? Quite disturbingly, Miss Redstall first became interested in criminal psychology and the minds of killers when she was just a child. She said: 'A close family friend, when I was Ii, was gunned down along with another familyi she explained. "It was a highlypublicised case in the mid-80s and four people were shot in total. TWo were hlled. It had a major effect on me and I became interested in the most ranped minds of our society. Killers and in particu- lar the most depraved of all - serial killersl' Despite her interest in seria-l hllers, the fust rime Miss Redstall came face to face with one was an 'absolutely ftightening' experience, she said. "I felt as if I was Clarice Starling in Silence of the Lambs," she added. "shaking in mv shoes, I wore no make up, my hat in a baseball cap and a jacket buttoned up to my chin. Basicaily i looked like a boy. I faked a very bad American accent as I didn't want him to knowl was English." Itt not surprising consider- ing the fust man she inter- viewed was Wayne Ad:m p616, who mutilated and killed four women and walked into a California police station in 1998 with one of his victirrls severed breasts in his pocket. Other killers Miss Redstall came face-to-face with includ- ed Bobby Joe Long who assaulted and murdered at least l0 women; Gary Ray Bowles, who killed six men in the space of a yea4, and Robin Gecht, who was a member of the terri$ring Ripper Crew. But the worst of them all, Miss Redstall said, was Keith Hulter lesperson, who was knowrr as the HappyFace Ki_ller because he sent taunting letters to newspapers and the police, signing off with a smileyface. "He made my skin crawl as he seemed so proud ofwho he murdered and howi' she said. "It was almost as if he enjoyed reliving the whole process while talking to me abour it., \4rith these hardened killers refusing to open up to psychia- trists, prosecutors and other authority figures, itt a wonder how Miss Redstall has managed to get material for an entire book. This she puts down to her'friendlypersonality' and not showing any fear. Despite admitting she was friendly towards these killers, Miss Redstall said she never ever became friends with them, despite many media reports, particularly those surrounding her relationship with Wayne 49* Ford, suggesting otherwise, "I had to compartmentalise the crimes they did from the main reason I was interviewing them - that was trying to un- derstand how an innocent child can turn in to a raving monsteri' she said. "I didn't ever 'befriend' them however the media seems to have inter- preted it that way. "I have a friendly rapport with everyone I have ever in- terviewed whether it be a coro- ne4 ajudge, a cop, a psycholo- gisf a victim that lived, a family member, a prosecutor. "If any of those people want to say 'Victoria's a friend of mine' just because I've sDent days interviewing them, well that's no problem with me. However. I certainly wouldn,t say that I am friends with any serial killer." So does Miss Redstall feel she is any closer to understand- "In my opinion, no-one is born a serial killer, they were formed," she said. "There is a lethal cocktail that goes into the 'making of a monster' and that is usually a bad childhood, filled with abuse, neglec! abandonment. Sometimes a brain injury can add to *te mix along with alcohol or drugs. "I am not saying that all peo- ple with a childhood like this grows up andwants to kill, I am just saying that nearly all of the ones I have met so fa4 have had a very similar story to tell about their childhood. Finding all this out has made me have a.better understanding as to .what makes a serial killerl' As harrowing and gruesome as the stories -of the men Miss Redstall interviewed may be, there is little doubt that Serial Killers: Up Close and Very Personal will be popular. As Christopher Bary-Dee writes in the foreword to the book, serial killers "capture public attention b.ecause *tey terri-ff the neighbourhoodS in which they trawl and prey on victims. They personiS the hu- man capacity for evil for they are the stuff of our worst night- mares and their stories put bums on seats in cinemas around the worldi' But Miss Redstall, who is currently halfi,lray through her second book, also about serial killers, says she wants to do much rnore than simply enter- tain people with her findings. She hopes they will discour- age women from going down the route of prostirution, which is where most serial killers she met found their victims. "Most of these women were prostitutes and I didn't sugar coat it by calling them some- thing else," she said. ',They chose that profession, a very dangerous one I might add. "I don't want anyone to think that these men climbed into people's homes at night and took chilfuen or old people out ofttreir beds. None ofthem would have done that. I am very clear with why they killed these types of victims and how theydid it. "I hope this will scare women enough to not even contemplate a job like this and therefore choose another career pathJ' I Serial Killers: (fn Ctnsc by Rebecca Younger IT'S hard to imagine why any- one would want to meet a serial hller, 1et alone spend thousands of hours in their company but that's exactly what Esher-bom joumalist and actress, Victoria Redstall, does for a living. Miss Redstall, rr:ho attended Claremont Fan School, got up dose and personal with five mass murderers on deatl row when she was helping to make a documentaryin the US. Ihe 36-vear-old, who uav- dled to Califomia when she ms 19 to studrbroadcast jour- ulism and now [ves in Studio Cq'. has just had a book pub- lished about her eryeriences F,i1.:r.': ii:t:,...i5 i a R.e ds t a lUro m Esh.er, * Xffi with notorious s eriat kilters (R"f, siif_sff_;Al' riiio _rl

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Alone and inside themind of aserial killer

- Serial KiIIers: Up Close andVery Personal.

But why would a privatelyeducated daughter of achartered surveyor in Surreywant to spend her timespeaking and listening to thesedangerous killers?

Quite disturbingly, MissRedstall first became interestedin criminal psychology and theminds of killers when she wasjust a child.

She said: 'A close familyfriend, when I was Ii, wasgunned down along withanother familyi she explained."It was a highlypublicised casein the mid-80s and four peoplewere shot in total. TWo werehlled. It had a major effect onme and I became interested inthe most ranped minds of our

society. Killers and in particu-lar the most depraved of all -serial killersl'

Despite her interest in seria-lhllers, the fust rime MissRedstall came face to face withone was an 'absolutelyftightening' experience, shesaid. "I felt as if I was ClariceStarling in Silence of theLambs," she added. "shaking inmv shoes, I wore no make up,my hat in a baseball cap and ajacket buttoned up to my chin.Basicaily i looked like a boy. Ifaked a very bad Americanaccent as I didn't want him toknowl was English."

Itt not surprising consider-ing the fust man she inter-viewed was Wayne Ad:m p616,who mutilated and killed fourwomen and walked into a

California police station in1998 with one of his victirrlssevered breasts in his pocket.

Other killers Miss Redstallcame face-to-face with includ-ed Bobby Joe Long whoassaulted and murdered atleast l0 women; Gary RayBowles, who killed six men inthe space of a yea4, and RobinGecht, who was a member ofthe terri$ring Ripper Crew.

But the worst of them all,Miss Redstall said, was KeithHulter lesperson, who wasknowrr as the HappyFace Ki_llerbecause he sent tauntingletters to newspapers andthe police, signing off with asmileyface.

"He made my skin crawl ashe seemed so proud ofwho hemurdered and howi' she said."It was almost as if he enjoyedreliving the whole processwhile talking to me abour it.,

\4rith these hardened killersrefusing to open up to psychia-trists, prosecutors and otherauthority figures, itt a wonderhow Miss Redstall hasmanaged to get material for anentire book. This she puts downto her'friendlypersonality' andnot showing any fear.

Despite admitting she wasfriendly towards these killers,Miss Redstall said she neverever became friends with them,despite many media reports,particularly those surroundingher relationship with Wayne49* Ford, suggestingotherwise,

"I had to compartmentalisethe crimes they did from themain reason I was interviewingthem - that was trying to un-derstand how an innocentchild can turn in to a ravingmonsteri' she said. "I didn'tever 'befriend' them howeverthe media seems to have inter-preted it that way.

"I have a friendly rapportwith everyone I have ever in-terviewed whether it be a coro-ne4 ajudge, a cop, a psycholo-gisf a victim that lived, a familymember, a prosecutor.

"If any of those people wantto say 'Victoria's a friend ofmine' just because I've sDentdays interviewing them, wellthat's no problem with me.However. I certainly wouldn,tsay that I am friends with anyserial killer."

So does Miss Redstall feelshe is any closer to understand-

"In my opinion, no-one isborn a serial killer, they wereformed," she said. "There is alethal cocktail that goes intothe 'making of a monster' andthat is usually a bad childhood,filled with abuse, neglec!abandonment. Sometimes abrain injury can add to *te mixalong with alcohol or drugs.

"I am not saying that all peo-ple with a childhood like thisgrows up andwants to kill, I amjust saying that nearly all of theones I have met so fa4 have hada very similar story to tell abouttheir childhood. Finding all thisout has made me have a.betterunderstanding as to .whatmakes a serial killerl'

As harrowing and gruesomeas the stories

-of the men Miss

Redstall interviewed may be,there is little doubt that SerialKillers: Up Close and VeryPersonal will be popular.

As Christopher Bary-Deewrites in the foreword to thebook, serial killers "capturepublic attention b.ecause *teyterri-ff the neighbourhoodS inwhich they trawl and prey onvictims. They personiS the hu-man capacity for evil for theyare the stuff of our worst night-mares and their stories putbums on seats in cinemasaround the worldi'

But Miss Redstall, who iscurrently halfi,lray through hersecond book, also about serialkillers, says she wants to domuch rnore than simply enter-tain people with her findings.

She hopes they will discour-age women from going downthe route of prostirution, whichis where most serial killers shemet found their victims.

"Most of these women wereprostitutes and I didn't sugarcoat it by calling them some-thing else," she said. ',Theychose that profession, a verydangerous one I might add.

"I don't want anyone tothink that these men climbedinto people's homes at nightand took chilfuen or old peopleout ofttreir beds. None ofthemwould have done that. I amvery clear with why they killedthese types of victims and howtheydid it.

"I hope this will scarewomen enough to not evencontemplate a job like this andtherefore choose anothercareer pathJ'

I Serial Killers: (fn Ctnsc

by Rebecca Younger

IT'S hard to imagine why any-one would want to meet aserial hller, 1et alone spendthousands of hours in theircompany but that's exactlywhat Esher-bom joumalist andactress, Victoria Redstall, doesfor a living.

Miss Redstall, rr:ho attendedClaremont Fan School, got updose and personal with fivemass murderers on deatl rowwhen she was helping to makea documentaryin the US.

Ihe 36-vear-old, who uav-dled to Califomia when shems 19 to studrbroadcast jour-ulism and now [ves in StudioCq'. has just had a book pub-lished about her eryeriences

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ii:t:,...i5

i a R.e ds t a lUro m Esh.er, * Xffiwith notorious s eriat kilters (R"f, siif_sff_;Al' riiio _rl