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What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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What Should CAE Engineers Knowand What They Do Not Need to Know
Univ.-Prof. Dr.-Ing. Martin MeywerkDepartment of Automotive and Power Train Engineering
Helmut-Schmidt-UniversityUniversity of the Federal Armed Forces, Hamburg
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Introduction
What is the background?Giving lectures both for engineers in industry and students (topic:
CAE methods in automotive engineering). The experiences are the following:
the „pupils“ learn very quick the functionality of buttons and how to produce coloured pictures
the „pupils“ do not want to analyse or interpret the resultsBut: It is very important to anaylse results from CAE-software from
a physical point of view
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Workflow for CAE engineers
Boss: This is our new part in the suspension; are you ableto calculate the durability?
CAE engineer: Yes, of courseBoss: By tomorrow?CAE engineer: By next week!?Boss: ...
Now the work starts for the CAE engineer.
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Modellingphysical → geometrical → mathematical
Simulating (software)
Analysing the results
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Physical ModellingWhich physical phenomena are involved in the problem?⇒ principal physical equations
Which phenomena could be neglected?⇒ assumptions
Simple estimations or experimentsconcerning the assumption have to be done⇒ Final set of equations
possible
chan
geof
A lot of knowledge of physical phenomena is necessary.
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Geometrical modelling
1. CAD-data Clean upunique (not double defined)
anywhere (no holes)
2. Physically motivated modification (strong link to physical modelling)
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Geometrical modellingKleine Bohrung
Kleine Sicke
little hole
little bead
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Physically motivated modifications / simplifications
- a lot of experience is necessary for simplifacation of geometry- anticipation of the solution- simplification is necessary
statics (stress)--oheat conduction+++Modal analysis (eigenvalues)++o
disciplineradiiholesbeads
small
+ can be simplifiedo with restrictions: can be simplified- should not be simplified
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Physically motivated modifications / simplificationsa)
a
b
b/20
a/4
2b/3
c)
b/109x....
4b/5
b)b/20
4b/5b/5
x
b/10
b/5
b/10
b/5
b/10
b/5
d) e)
f)
9x....
modifications dependadditionally to discipline on: Number, shape and location
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Mathematical Modelling
Correct choice of: • solver for ODE • discretization method for PDE• parameter of the solving algorithm
- knowledge of the algorithms is necessary
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Simulating (software)
– knowledge of the most capabilities of the software– knowledge of all relevant input parameters
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Analysing the results
- plausibility of the results- simple estimations- comparison with known facts- conservation of mass, momentum, energyIt is the responsibility of the CAE engineer to check the results!
- basic principles has to be known- simple estimation formulas have to be applied
(known by heart or by book)- basic physical parameters has to be known by heart
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Lack of knowledge
- properties of tensors (of second order)- how to apply simple estimation formulas- broad knowledge of physics- plausibility checks
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Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Summary
What should CAE Engineers know
• a lot of physics, some numerical mathematics, little CAD facts,how to estimate, how to anticipate, and how to interprete results
and what they do not need to know?
• script languages for pre- or post processing or workflow definition,programming languages e.g. C#, customizing of software
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Demands on knowledge:
basic: bstandard: shigh: h
Classification of CAE engineerCAD engineer : CADCAE standard user : CAECAE specialist (developer) : Spec.
Demands
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Matrix: Demands vs. Classification
Should not be done
b
Crash
s
Spec.
CAE
CAD
hshs hbb
MBSStatic/FEM
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Example: MBS (some keywords)basic: kinematics and kinetics of rigid bodies in three dimensions,
solver for ODE, angles for orientation of rigid bodies(e.g. Euler), simple 1D-force-deflection-laws, …
standard: broad survey of solvers for ODE (incl. one-step, multi-step,implicit, explicit), stiff ODE, survey of orientation descriptionsfor rigid bodies, simple tensor calculus, general3D force / momentum-deflection/rotation law, flexible bodies (Craig Bampton), …
spec.: DAE solver, index 3 systems, floating frame of referenceformulation for flexible bodies in MBS, …
Examples, no complete list!
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Example: Continuum Mechanicsbasic: linear material laws, lin. FEA, tensors; limits of the
simplified, linear modelling, …
standard: nonlinear material laws, elasto-plastic, composites,phaenomenological laws, higher order FE, locking effects, …
spec.: alternative discretization method (MLS, Trefftz), adaptivemeshing, compatibility, …
Examples, no complete list!
What Should CAE Engineers Know and What TheyDo Not Need to Know?15. Nov. 2007
Automotive and Power Train EngineeringProf. Dr.-Ing. M. Meywerk (Automotive Engineering)
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Example: Crashbasic: Crash on a low level should not be applied!
standard: nonlinear material laws, elasto-plastic, composites,phaenomenological material laws, foams, reduced/full/selectiveintegration, hourglass modes/control, mass scaling, contactalgorithm, parts of standard MBS, tensors, invariants, time stepcontrol, mass scaling, penetration removal, airbag andrestraint modelling, dummy models, basics of nonlineardynamics, ….
spec.: alternative discretization method (MLS, Trefftz, …), adaptivemeshing, ….
Examples, no complete list!