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MR NICHOLS: I m ask ing him.THE WI TNESS: Oh.MR NICHOLS: I m j u s t to get t h i s - -
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MR SMITH-KENNEDY: She has two l i f e i n su ran cep o l i c i es .
MR NICHOLS: But, you sa id t h a t s h e s paying.I thought the t es t imony was somebody e l s e i s payingone and s h e s paying one.
MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Whoever i s paying them.Whoever pays them.
MR . NICHOLS: Okay.MR SMITH-KENNEDY: Okay.
13 BY MR SMITH-KENNEDY :14 Q I mean, can you s top paying any amount o f15 money towards t h e s e l i f e insurance p o l i c ies ?16171819
A No, s i r . I would h a t e to s top .Q. Okay. Who are t h e b en e f i c i a r i e s of these l i f e
i n su ran ce p o l i c i e s ?A. The 1,978, Lionel Ferguson i s the
2 0 benef ic ia ry . Due to the t r o u b l e I got in , I had to give21 up something, a house o r something and I didn t have it22 So, I gave up th e l i f e insurance .232 4
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So, you owe him money?I owed him money on beha l f o f the Wests ide
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Page 79agreed to pay if they d i d n t pay.
Q Does it say anywhere in wr i t ing t ha t you haveto pay 1,900 per th ree months fo r t h i s ?
4 A. In wri t ing? Nothing but an agreement. I t5 wouldn ' t I d i d n t s ign any c o l l a t e r a l note .6 Q Okay. So, you could j u s t qu i t paying t h i s and789
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what would Lionel Ferguson do about i t ?A. Oh, Lord. You l l k i l l him. He ll j us t d i e
because t h a t s h i s ch i ld ren s income and money t ha t hespent on behal f o f poor people .
Q. Okay. I d o n t - - How i s t ha t you came to owe12 t h i s guy money?1 3 A. I came to own him t ha t be cause the Wests i de14 Businessmen was a non-pro f i t organiza t ion . They owned15 f ive un i t s o f housing. They provided housing for the16 poor . As a Commissioner, I went to him and asked him to17 loan them the money to save tho se from t ax c e r t i f i c a t e s18 being sold . And as a r e su l t of tha t , I got in t roub le19 because the c i t y commission put me off the commis s ion2 0212223
for doing t ha t a nd I ended up owing the money becausethe Westside Businessmen d i d n t h ave any money.
I know it s puzz l ing; but , t h a t s what happened .Q So , you fee l l i ke you need to pay back t h i s
2 4 guy money because of - - I mean, did you borrow money2 5 from him?
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I borrowed the money on beha l f o f the We s t s i d e2 Deerf ie ld Businessmen.
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Okay. So, t h i s Wests ide Deer f i e ld Businessmen
Yes.borrowed money from Lionel and you he lped
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I broke red itBut, you a re pe rsona l ly respons ib le?I was pe rsona l ly re spons ib l e . T h a t s the only
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So, did you s ign some so r t o f - -I s igned an agreement , not a note . We d i d n t
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Where i s t h i s agreement?He should have it Lionel has itWell , do you t h ink you could work something
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A Oh, p l e a s e . Don t - - Don t - - The only h opehe has and he s i n h i s e i g h t i e s He s about e igh ty-oneyears old . And I would hate to You know, it s Ist he re anyway to l i e n o r what no t and I could hold youmoney . But, d o n t him t h a t way.
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to ge t pa id .MR SMITH KENNEDY: All r i gh t . W e l l t ake a
4 b r i e f break.5 THE WITNESS: Uh-huh.6 MR SMITH KENNEDY: I ll be r i gh t back.7 Thereupon, a br i e f recess was held . )8 BY MR SMITH KENNEDY :9 Q Ms. Poi t i e r , have you rece ived any t e s t
10 r e s u l t s s ince Ju ly 1, 2 012 from Environmental11 Consul t ing?1213
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No.No? Okay. Do you owe Envirospec any amount
Do I owe?Uh-huh?No.Okay; l a s t th ing . I did rece ive a few
19 documents here ; some l eases . I s t h i s a l l o f the - - Are20 these a l l the documents t ha t you re provid ing fo r the21 reques t fo r produc t ion?223
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That s a l l I have.Okay. And it looks l i ke some random l eases
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