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We’ve Been Answering the Wrong Questions: Time to Answer the Right Accountability Questions Robert Daly Assistant Vice Chancellor, Academic Planning and Budget University of California, Riverside November 14, 2008

We’ve Been Answering the Wrong Questions: Time to Answer the Right Accountability Questions Robert Daly Assistant Vice Chancellor, Academic Planning and

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Page 1: We’ve Been Answering the Wrong Questions: Time to Answer the Right Accountability Questions Robert Daly Assistant Vice Chancellor, Academic Planning and

We’ve Been Answering the Wrong Questions:

Time to Answer the Right Accountability Questions

Robert DalyAssistant Vice Chancellor, Academic Planning and

BudgetUniversity of California, Riverside

November 14, 2008

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Colleges are facing more and more demands to be

accountable

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Institutional Researchers are key to answering

accountability questions

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We’re answeringthe wrong questions!

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What are the right

questions?

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Why does it

cost so

much?

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Tuition and feeshave been increasing

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William Galston,Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution

Patricia McGuire,President, Trinity Washington University

David Baime,Vice President for Government Relations,American Association for Community Colleges

William Galston,Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution

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What else is pushing uptuition and fees?

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Is it worth

it?

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A college degree isan investment decision

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What is the return on investment

of a bachelor’s degree?

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How do we measurea degree’s social value?

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Why are these the right

questions?

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Who’s asking theseaccountability questions?

Parents and Students

Legislators

College Leaders

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Parents’ concerns are obtained from a Public Policy Institute

survey

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Parents are worried aboutwhy it costs so much

“How about the overall affordability ofeducation for students in California’s

public colleges and universities today? ”

Big problem 53%

Somewhat a problem 31%

Not much of a problem 14%

Don’t know 2%

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Parents believe a bachelor’s degree is needed to be

successful

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Legislators keep calling formore accountability

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What makes a bachelor’s degree worth $50,000 at a UC

campus?

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How do we answer theseaccountability

questions?

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Must separate internal questions from external

questions

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Data is needed for the management of the college

• Student Faculty Ratios• Teaching Loads• Degrees Conferred• Research

Expenditures• Diversity•

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Accountability data for external audiences must

answer these two questions

• Why does it cost so much

• Is it worth it?

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Calculating net cost is not difficult

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Use alumni surveys to collect valuable salary information

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Ask carefully craftedquestions about was it worth it

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Calculate measures likereturn on investment

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Calculate the return to California through increased

tax revenue

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Calculate estimates of salaries earned by your graduates

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Calculate the return to California through increased

tax revenue

Simply: $11,900 minus $6,600 = $5,300.

California taxes are about 20% of this, so about $1,000 per year extra.

Working 35 years, times the $1,000 is $35,000 additional to California.

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Time to Answer Those Two Accountability

Questions

1. Why does it cost so much?

2. Is it worth it?

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