Deep ParaPolitics & Esoteric-Occult High-Strangeness Surrounding 911

Philip Kindrid Dick, UFOs & Post-911 Surreality

Vallee's Physics of Information

Loren Coleman: Fortean Name Game Flaps, Twilight Language & The SynchroMystics

Steven Greer, Carol Rosin, Werner von Brauh & 911

The UFOs of 911 & Global NDE

11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday... 8bitAgent’s 911 Notes Towards a Modern Day 9/11 Coincidence Guide

Warnings and Warnings of Warnings

Multiple intelligence warnings from around the world Bojinka

American Intelligence Connections

FBI Agent John O'Neil who died mysteriously on 9/11, was at a Madrid Spain counter terror conference the week after some of the hijackers had been in the *same* hotel

In the summer of 1999, a high ranking ISI agent and a bin Laden weapons procurer met with FBI informants to discuss weapons deals. Allegedly the comment about the Twin Towers coming down was made

Timing

National Emergency 9-1-1 Date & Time: 9/11 at 9:11 Astrological 11 years to the day after George H W Bush's infamous "New World Order" speech

Location Location Location

California – San Diego Florida – Anthrax Attacks, Israeli Art Students, George W. Bush

o Some of the hijackers were only a couple miles from where George W Bush would sleep in Florida not long before 9/11

Maine – Portland WTC / NYC –

o 1993 bombingo Israeli “B Thing” art group in WTCo Mystery Vans o Security, Maintenance, etc. “Irregularities”

Oklahoma – o Dreamland Hotel in Oklahoma City

Pennsylvania – Shanksville Texas – Dallas Washington D.C. / Pentagon

WTC Weirdness

A man named Rocky Hammad was caught up in part of a DMV scam in Memphis. He and his cohorts allegedly had WTC building maintenance crew badges. And the woman who helped them was found killed in a burned out car, and another man with a pipe bombs trapped to him. Rocky worked for a Ukranian mob/pedo/arms/narco linked plumber outfit in New York.

Israeli Intelligence Connections

During the summer of 2001, Israeli art students were using whirly copter toy kiosks at malls and door to door soliciting at US military bases as possible cover for spying

Strange reports of white vans darting around NYC and NJ with reportedly Israeli men. One group of which was reportedly joyful as they saw the attack at the WTC unfold. These men would later say they were "there to document the event" and some CIA analysts spoke candidly of possible Israeli shadowing of the hijackers

While in Florida, Israeli agents were living next to and or near some of the alleged hijackers (especially in Hollywood Florida)

One of the STRANGEST of all 9/11 facts: The avant garde performance art team "B Thing" who snuck into a higher floor room in the World Trade Center had a member that a year later was living with the very Israeli agents living next door to some of the hijackers. Another B Thing member lived near Hamas fundraising front Infocom in Dallas

The Hijackers: Coincidences Surrounding Their Whereabouts and Activities

Mohammed Atta Anwar al-Awlaki (also spelled al-Aulaqi, al-Awlaqi) Sakher 'Rocky' Hammad Ziad Jarrah Sam Kouchesfahani Mujahid Abdulqadir Menepta (a.k.a. Melvin Lattimore) Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – a militant held in U.S. military custody in Guantánamo Bay

for alleged acts of terrorism including the mass murder of civilians. Zacarias Moussaoui Bert Rodriguez Ramzi bin al-Shibh – Yemeni citizen being held by the United States as an enemy

combatant detainee at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. He is accused of being a "key facilitator for the September 11 attacks" in 2001 in the United States.

Zacarias Moussaoui

The co-pilot of the downed Wellstone plane had hung around alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui in Oklahoma, even giving Moussaoui software found on his laptop

The same laptop where beheaded Nick Berg's passwords and accounts were found on, as word had it he and Moussaoui were seen together

And Moussaoui was at the same motel with Mohammed Atta in 2001, that his roommate Melvin Lattimore was at with Timothy McVeigh in 1995. Moussaoui's roommate was Hussein al-Attas, who drove to Minnesota to try and get Moussaoui out of jail despite the FBI trying to seize his laptop before 9/11.

Sam Koutchesfahani

Friend of FBI informant/hijacker housing helper Sam Kouchesfahani (also alleged to have had ties with housing alleged terrorists) rented out the Heaven's Gate mansion near San Diego to the death cult

And while Heaven's Gate got kicked off with a call in by former protégéof an FBI/remote viewer, the top "Men Who Stare At Goats" guy Bert Rodriguez (played by Clooney in the film adaptation) trained 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah in 2001

The Anthrax Attacks … in Florida

The first victim of the anthrax attacks was the Sun Tabloid, owned by the Irishes who were renting out a condo to some of the hijackers in Florida

Terrorism Funding Networks (and Intel connections?)

Saudi Arabia was sending money to some of the hijackers in San Diego, but was also sending funds to Care International (not THE "Care Intl") which in reality was simply the retitled al Kifah Center that was an al Qaeda / Maktab al Khadamat splinter group in Boston and Brooklyn. This got folded into the Yasin al Qadi group of companies, such as Bannon Technologies, PTECH, BMI real estate, Logan Furniture and other Braintree area Mass. businesses. Yasin al Qadi was known as a top financier for bin Laden, but had also been a good friend of some Washington DC Republicans. al Kifah was at the center (allegedly) of the WTC 1993 bomb plot, which also included Rabbi Khahane killer mastermind and green beret/special forces Ali Mohammed. Also allegedly involved, OKC 1995 and 9/11

hijacker connected man Melvin Lattimore AKA Mujahid Menepta, as well as FBI informant Emad Salem and a literal Iraqi agent (tho much of this was kept quiet)

Most of the 9/11 money was said to have gone through Standard Chartered Bank in Dubai, which had its main HQ in America in the WTC7 building. SC is now being taken down by regulators for alleged laundering of Iranian money

Allegedly now protected by BND intel, Mamoun Darklazanli was one of Mohamed Atta's main men in the so called Hamberg cell. He and his associates were working for "Tatex Trading" and other Syrian intelligence connected groups.

One character fingered as a 9/11 financier was ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh, who allegedly was involved with KSM in the Pearl plot. He would be one of many ties to the Pakistani ISI

Dubai and the UAE could be said to be some of the lifeblood of al Qaeda, where high level Arab elites would meet with top al Qaeda chiefs and give them money and blessing

Anwar al Awlaki

Anwar al Awlaki, the so called head of Yemeni Al Qaeda (AQAP) alleged to have been behind several anti US plots (and killed by Obama via drones) had a power luncheon with some of the top Pentagon brass a few months after 9/11

This is significant, as Awlaki is alleged to have been in close contact with Ramzi bin al-Shibh and KSM in Hamburg via telephone, and was one of the main hosts and liasons for Khalid al Midhar and Nawaf al Hazmi. He allegedly was being paid by the Saudis to "show around" these two guys, who were getting funds from Saudi Arabia. Awlaki allegedly took these two guys to Falls Church Virginia to stay at WAMY, which was started by Abdullah bin Laden and Omar bin Laden.

Other bin Laden’s

Abdullah bin Laden and Omar bin Laden were one of several "persons of interest" on the bin Laden flights as well as others who had direct dealings with terror financing. Another one was prominent Saudi elite Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen, who was in the same hotel as three of the hijackers the NIGHT BEFORE 9/11

Misc Loose Ends

Credit cards some of the hijackers were using in 2001 ended up *still* being used up to two weeks later

The morning of 9/11, as the hijackers were already in the skies, one of the maids at the hotel was said to have been shooed away from an unknown man still occupying one of the rooms the hijackers stayed in.

Allegedly, the Dentist (Dr. David Graham) had come in contact with two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.

Of Airplanes and Airports

Some witnesses claim that they saw the 9/11 hijacker suspects hanging out with some airport/tarmac crew employees

Early reports indicated the weapons used were pre-planted behind or under the seats the hijackers used

One of the suspects who helped the hijackers at the airport (Mohdar Abdullah, a Yemeni) somehow was released despite video of him and several of the suspects

NORAD, Palladium, Injects, War Games, Backdoor Software

PTech: in 2001 a majority of US computer systems (CIA, DOD, FBI, Air Force, Secret Service, etc) had Ptech backdoor software on it

The "Angel is Next" code threat on 9/11 that seemed to spook even the neocons (who, according to truthers believe were running 9/11)

Esoteric & Occult Aspects

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One more point I was thinking of: Egypt.

Crowley over a century ago had his "epiphany" at the pyramids. The entire origin of al Qaeda comes from Egypt(the jailing of Anwar Sadat plotters/1988 merging of Egyptian Jihad with the Saudi backed MAK) "ringleader" Atta was Egyptian. That particular strain of Salafism comes from the Grand Orient Lodge in Cairo in the late 1800's.

Egypt ties together notions of Sirius, a theme that ties to 9/11. You also of course have the date itself, september 11th which is seen by some as the New Year in Egypt (the month of Thout feast of Nayrouz) I've tried to separate the wheat from the fluff, though I do find some of the DC-Pentagon/Cydonia of Mars parallels interesting. But if we trace Crowley's time in Egypt to the "40s" of mass collectivist UFO media, Jack Parsons and the atom bomb to 9/11 its quite an interesting 'alternate' timeline of sorts.

One more note with that... Gemini is represented by twin pillars... Sagitarius by an arrow. It’s another layer of "huh" when you see.

"On Tuesday September 11th the Moon was still in Gemini, widely conjunct Saturn, while the Saturn/Moon midpoint exactly conjoined U.S. Mars, also in the seventh House of the U.S. chart. It is interesting that Saturn was in Gemini, especially as we can regard Saturn as the structure that was destroyed by the Plutonic forces, namely the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Gemini also represents the Descendant of the chart of the U.S. for 5:13 PM July 4th 1776.In fact, the Descendant of an entity's chart represents the way that entity reaches out to partnership with the rest of humanity, namely in the case of America as symbolized by Gemini in the form of communication, commerce and trade. And since Gemini is the sign of the twins, this symbolic identification with the structure of the World Trade Center is quite apt."http://www.astrograph.com/learning-astrology/911.php

Saturn of course often meaning war. The other, mass communication, partnerships, etc. As an arrow strikes the pillar. I also see the North tower as "male" with the antenna, so male female duality occupying in the same spaces.

Astrologers with no interest in conspiracies have often pointed this sort of thing out. I remember the first theories re: 9/11 actually had to do with numerology. Or the "$20" bill fold trick.

I don't share the negative view of Freemasonry as most conspiracists do, however I can see how it's foundation is a bootlegged groundwork for many black lodge and spinoff esoteric orders.

No doubt to me Washington DC and even later in 1941 the foundation of the Pentagon in Arlington are based upon complex astrology and Egyptian rooted templates.

I find this a really strong primer as to the extreme detail and guts of the matter for that awful day. And the weather... that beautiful clear blue tuesday.

http://astronomologer.com/2011/09/ophiuchus-september-11-2001-aa-flight-11/

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Ha thanks man. I guess for some subjects I lean toward a sort of Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man/Mark Lombardi circle sort of mindset. One of the reasons I felt alienated by researcher circles was this refusal to change viewpoints, even when pet theories or "facts" they held onto were debunked. Thats about as un rigorousas it gets. When something even I've peddled seems to not be the case, I'll toss it out. There's also this obsession for obsessions. Ive seen some great info that ends up getting muddied by a writer's "Israel obsession". Or a pure focus on neocons/pentagon. I just kind of see an abyss with this sort of thing. Gotta look at the micro and macro of any devoted subject. this line, so classic:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ema7lfEAMk (Preview)

re: the foreign name thing, sadly I don't know a lick of Arabic, so I've no idea if I'm even phonetically correct. And many of these players had a zillion different names/spellings, more intentional confusion(like Saaed Sheikh) Many truthers will dismiss writers if they dont have an "INSIDE JOB!" frame of reference, which I feel is a shame. Given I find Lance's work absolutely invaluable.

Now I will say a lot of what I talk about could be syncs, as is often said any sort of event will have seemingly copious amounts of syncs. The main "Men Who Stare At Goats" dudetraining Ziad Jarrah in Florida six months before 9/11 could just be a coincidence. Though the anthrax connection to Florida might point to something more tangential Regarding any 'woo', that line of inquiry didn't even occur to me til I saw Jake Kotze's video short on youtube in 2007 regarding 77/Crowley. Which got me thinking about 11, 93, 175, and

the towers and pentagon themselves as esoteric batteries of sorts. I soon found not just doubles but triplicates of the same repeating numbers. Like Flight 77 crashing into the 77 foot tall Pentagon on the 77th meridian. Or Flight 11 hitting the 11(0) storied 11 shaped towers on the 11th of September (11 years to the day from the GWB NWO speech). I’ve even found a connection drawing from the manhattan project and atom bomb to 9/11. We see "77" all over the place. Bochscar 77 was the plane that delivered the other drop on Japan. 77 was the number JD Salinger wore in WW2. Interstate 77 was where some of the mothman stuff was seen. Even mainstream reports of the mysterious "Pentagon Doomsday plane" had a call sign of "VENUS 77", which Bain mentions in his book. All syncs perhaps, but just food for thought.

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Aw yeah the Dark Knight bank opening. I love that analogy. Well an interesting point, which seems basic, that I rarely if ever saw people discuss online wasthe basic idea of origin.

Something I want to touch upon is the notion of a germ idea. As if infecting multiple parties without them knowing each other or consent. Pawns in a meta play.

As I was mentioning in 2007, all the data didnt point to any one specific cultprit. Intentional confusion, Babel-esque.

People throw these term around like "100% proven!" and "orchestrated by", but when it comes to sept 11 noone can even come up with a framework for a big bang moment. Because, in the decade I had been researching, the idea for 9/11 ultimately still seems to draw right back to Ramzi Yousef and his laptop in the Philippines, and more accurately before that...the El Nossair killing of Rabi Meir Kahane as directed by Ali Mohamed in November 1990. But even then, we have evidence that "9/11" as a theme had been slowly being woven onto all of our collectivesubconscious, as if 9/11 was always going to happen, or has happened before. The towers almost seemingly built for such a purpose.

That 1989-1993 "WTC 1993" plot era, from the time police film Ali Mohamed training four of the future WTC 93 bombers in Jersey circa 89 to the Kahane assassination in 90 to the WTC / Bridge and Tunnel plot is really important. And not even completely going by Peter Lance's important work. At the center of all that seems to be the 1989 Mujahadeen / Islamic Egyptian Jihad(AKA marriage that chimera'd as "al Qaeda") satellite spun "Al Kifah Refugee" in Brooklyn with Whadid el Hague (later going to Sudan in 1991 with bin Laden and al Zawahiri) People will mention Emad Salem as some sort of catalyst but I think it was way beyond that, and even

outside of any sort of Fed control. Because what you have with "Al Kifah Refugee Center", would splinter onto Boston... which gets rolled up in 1994 into "Care International", BMI Real Estate and later Bannon Technologies, Logan Furniture, and the whole Quincy / Braintree Mass. nexus. I remember a mainstream article where before 9/11 Aaifa Siddiqui was literally receiving checks from Saudi government for Care, which had rolled al Kifah's Boston center into its fold. Centering this is of course Yasin al-Qadi, with many powerful connections in both the Arab Golden Chain and the western elite structure. Boston is also home to the last mystery of Atta, being Logan airport after his mysterious puddlejump from Portland Maine. So on a domestic map, we definitely have a line drawing from San Diego, to Falls Church/other areas of Virginia to Floria, to Oklahoma up to Massachusetts and right into Jersey and NYC. I remember reading that Philip Marshall before the horrible event that took the life of himself and his family, that he was really digging deep into what Atta was doing in Las Vegas.

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damn, he pretty much nails all the points I made in a 2007 post on RI re: 911 as a ritualhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAu32CH9mY (Preview)

btw have you seen this short about 9/11 and the film 2001? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSm9m_C8Mbw (Preview)

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9/11 & JFK Finally Solved(Thanks to The Dark Knight) http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=462754-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

haha, wow I can't believe I wrote all that. Damn, I shoulda hooked up with that Ellison dude who made Core Of Corruption. It's funny as I haven't done hardly any research on 9/11 in the last few years, least no since the "bin Laden raid". Tho I do come across new stuff here and there.

Really wish I could find that news article about Mohammed Atta writing the word "ROOM" with two snakes intertwining a sword. I don't think it was on the "left behind"

Portland Maine luggage or his will, but another testament he wrote. The footage of a smiling Atta allegedly from Jan 2000 was always a trip. Really surprised no mainstream investigator was interested in Atta being a cipher. Anyways thanks for the blast from the past! Again forgot I had written all that. Interesting enough, a full length book by a respectable writer on the 9/11 occult connection was released, co-authored by "Sinister Forces" Peter Levenda. Havent read it, but SK Bain's credits are quite interesting. I've heard the book really 'goes there'. Tho I feel like Ive given up my overall para-political research side for the most part.

In a way I've come to find the non whodunnit threads (as) interesting. Such as the falling man or the Indian woman who went missing and presumed to have been in the towers but may not have been. Also the documentary "Man On Wire", which to me shows the towers have long held a sort of mystical determination for the willing adepts of impossible challenges.

Anyways, look forward to the interview. Hit me up with any other material ya want me to cover or I may have forgotten. I gotta relisten to Indira Singh's infamous 2005 radio interview re: the Ptech octopus

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Well now you got me thinking. I've exhaustively, to an embarrassing point yammed on and on about "9/11". In particular, these sockets of intrigue where you have all these convergences. Zacarias Moussaoui's laptop, which had both things on there given to him by Nick Berg and Paul Wellstone's doomed flight co-pilot (Michael Guess) Moussaoui at the time had been roommateat the Oklahoma University campus apartments with Mujahid Manepta (AKA Melvin Lattimore), a man whose credit card was said to have been used in The World Trade Center 1993 plot and who himself had been seen hanging with Timothy Mcveigh in 1995. Then in August 2001 Moussaoui was seen with Mohammed Atta at the same Dreamland motel both Mcveigh and Lattimore were seen staying at.

Two of th eparticipants of the infamous "B Thing" art student stunt inside the world trade center in 2000 ended up being with the Israeli spies living next door to several of the hijackers in Hollywood Florida and next door to the Infocom Hezbollah funding front in Dallas Texas. Most strangely of all these, is how the star of the real life Army Psi Remote Viewing/Men Who Stare At Goats program(Bert Rodriguez, who was described as "pure occult") trained Flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah in combat training during the early months of 2001 in Florida. A year earlier the man who rented the Heaven's Gate UFO death cult(Sam Koutchesfahani) their mansion in San Diego California(spurred on by a remote viewer for the FBI claiming she saw a UFO in the Hale Bopp comet on the Art Bell show) was seen with his FBI informant pal Abdusattar Sheikh with hijackers Nawaf al Hazmi and Khalid al Midhar, according to the 9/11 commission.

Now all this I admit could just be the weird nature of the universe, akin to what you mentioned regarding Vallee's thoughts... putting a whole other spin on what we think of as meta-data, evidence, etc.

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Deeper Mystery Of Anthrax 2001by 8bitagent » 09 Aug 2013 08:31 http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36961

I know the Anthrax letters events have been examined ad nauseum, as well as a pretty good recent PBS documentary. But I've noticed that there is this whole othernarrative that dovetail with the event.

1. In June 2001, 9/11 hijackers Ahmed al-Haznawit and Ziad Jiad go to a Fort Lauderdale hospital with mysterious lesions. al Haznawit claims he believes he got it from "bumping into a suitcase".A doctor became convinced it was some sort of form of cutaneous anthraxhttp://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/23/anthrax/

On June 25, 2001, al-Haznawi was treated for a lesion on his left leg at the hospital, the source said. He came to the emergency room with another September 11 hijacker, Ziad Jarrah.

Al-Haznawi told a doctor that the wound had not healed after he bumped into a suitcase a couple of months before. The doctor cleaned the wound, gave him a prescription for antibiotics and sent him on his way, the source said.

After the September 11 attacks, FBI agents found evidence in one of the hijackers' homes that led them to question the emergency room physician, Dr. Christos Tsonas. Tsonas remembered treating al-Haznawi.

When the doctor was questioned in October, he told authorities that he believed the wound was "consistent with anthrax."

The first indications of anthrax appeared at the offices of a Miami tabloid newspaper, where photo editor Robert Stevens died on October 5 and colleague Ernesto Blanco was hospitalized with inhalation anthrax. A third employee of American Media International contracted cutaneous anthrax.

2. The first known victim of the anthrax letters was photo editor Bob Stevens, from an anthrax letter mailed to The Sun tabloid at American Media Inc in Boca Raton florida. The editor is Michael Irish. His wife is a real estate agent named Gloria Irish who rented two different apartments to some of the 9/11 hijackers in the months leading up to the sept 11th attacks. A number of the other 19 hijackers were believed to have stayed or visited these two residences. Michael Irish had been at the same flight school as al Shehi and Atta in 2000.http://www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worl ... to_t.shtmlhttp://archives.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/con ... hijackers/

A letter addressed to Jennifer Lopez containing a Star of David and a bluish powder arrived in the Sun's mailroom in the American Media headquarters. Several people handled the letter, and Stevens sniffed some of the powder.

In May 2002, Inglesby released a memo on the infection, which was based on a undocumented diagnosis by Dr. Tsonas, Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale. In October 2001, the FBI showed up at Tsonas with some photographs and a prescription of an antibiotic, they claimed, it was traced back to him. Tsonas then identified Ahmed Alhaznawi (who officially died on Flight 93), but denied this later. As reported, Alhaznawi and other hijackers lived and attended a flight school near the Boca Raton headquarters of American Media Inc., where the first anthrax case surfaced. Alhazmi and Siad Jarrah (who still received a FAA newsletter in 2002, according to the landlord, Charles Lisa) lived in the same apartment together.

4. Further, a pharmacist in Delray Beach, Florida, stated he had told the F.B.I. that two of the 9/11 hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, entered the pharmacy seeking medicine to treat irritations on Mr. Atta's hands.[161]

If the 9/11 hijackers were involved in the anthrax attacks they would probably have needed an accomplice to mail the tainted letters since the four recovered anthrax letters were postmarked on September 18 and October 9.[161]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ste ... to_anthrax

5. Early September: "Some White House personnel" are given ciprofloxacin, the antibiotic of choice for anthrax, for undisclosed reasons.[3]

September 11: Staff accompanying Vice President Cheney to Camp David following the World Trade Center attacks are dispensed ciprofloxacin by the White House Medical Unit as "a precaution".[3]

"Soon after September 11", Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen is advised "in a roundabout way from a high government official" to acquire ciprofloxacin.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ste ... recautions

6. The anthrax investigation (Amerithrax) has been a frustrating one for the FBI and Postal Inspectors. Part of the frustration lies in the differences between the Florida letter and the letters mailed in New Jersey to addresses in Washington and New York. When one looks at the New Jersey aspect of the investigation alone, it appears that the leading suspect would be a "government insider". But when investigators try to tie it into the Florida case the evidence just doesn't meld. The same goes for the Florida aspect when investigators try to tie it into the New Jersey mailings.http://www.postalmag.com/scenario.htm

7. The Code and words

YOU CANNOT STOP USWE HAVE THIS ANTHRAXYOU DIE NOWARE YOU AFRAID?DEATH TO AMERICA.DEATH TO ISRAEL.ALLAH IS GREAT THIS IS NEXTTAKE PENACILIN NOWDEATH TO AMERICADEATH TO ISRAELALLAH IS GREAT

According to the FBI Summary Report issued on February 19, 2010, following the search of Ivins' home, cars, and office on November 1, 2007, investigators began examining his trash.[33] A week later, just after 1 a.m. on the morning of November 8, Ivins was observed throwing away "a copy of a book entitled Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, published by Douglas Hofstadter in 1979" and "a 1992 issue of American Scientist Journal which contained an article entitled 'The Linguistics of DNA,' and discussed, among other things, codons and hidden messages".[34]

The book Gödel, Escher, Bach contains a lengthy description of the encoding/decoding procedures, including an illustration of hiding a message within a message by bolding certain

characters.[35] According to the FBI Summary Report, "[w]hen they lifted out just the bolded letters, investigators got TTT AAT TAT – an apparent hidden message". The 3-letter groups are codons, "meaning that each sequence of three nucleic acids will code for a specific amino acid".[36]

TTT = Phenylalanine (single-letter designator F)AAT = Asparagine (single-letter designator N)TAT = Tyrosine (single-letter designator Y)

The FBI Summary Report proceeds to say: "From this analysis, two possible hidden meanings emerged: (1) 'FNY' – a verbal assault on New York, and (2) PAT – the nickname of [Dr. Ivins'] Former Colleague #2." Ivins was known to have a dislike for New York City, and four of the media letters had been sent to New York.[37] The report states that it "was obviously impossible for the Task Force to determine with certainty that either of these two translations was correct", however, "the key point to the investigative analysis is that there is a hidden message, not so much what that message is."[38] Ivins showed a fascination with codes and also had an interest in secrets and hidden messages.[39] He also was familiar with biochemical codons.[40]

8. February 15, 2011 - A group of independent scientists convened by the National Academies of Sciences has concluded that scientific evidence alone is not enough to prove that Bruce Ivins was the perpetrator of the anthrax attacks that killed five people in 2001[60]

I've long believed that dismissing the hijackers and al Qaeda re: 9/11 is a mistake, as it truly seems from all possible research that the hijackers acted as crucial vessels, ciphers. They lived next to Israeli agents, Israeli ecstacy dealers. They lived very close to the first anthrax attack. One took training in Florida from the former head of remote viewing/psychic Army experiments. Reports state Mohammed Atta and company spent a lot of time and money on alcohol, strippers, porn, even hookers and drugs. The flight schools in Florida have interesting deep state connections as

reported by Daniel Hopsicker. And we KNOW the US government was war gaming anthrax sent in the mail back in August as reported by Judith Miller, AND we know they were told to take cipro PRIOR to 9/11.

It's been 12 years now. Is it possible to finally get an image of what happened? Is it possible there is a connection to both Ivins and the bio lab and the hijackers through some nexus liason, even if they were unaware of eachother?

A lot of evidence does seem to point to Ivins, tho a final report says it is inconclusive. But you get the sense there is so much more to it. Like Oklahoma city and 9/11 itself, there's all these secondary layers of actors and potential perps.

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8bit and Novemb5r on 911 Nick Berg

Novem5er wrote:Regarding the Sunil Tripathi similarities.... Am I the only one getting weird "Nick Berg" vibes.

Remember him? The American guy beheaded in Iraq... and shown all over the internet. The same Nick Berg who'd been held by American forces for several days (denied many times over and then half-confirmed) before being released and beheaded. The SAME Nick Berg who's email address was actually used by Zacarias Moussaoui in relation to the 9/11 attacks! Somehow this innocent Nick Berg is connected to everybody.

Now Sunil? Just strange.

The same Nick Berg whose emails were used on a laptop containing software given to Moussaoui by the soon to be ill fated Paul Wellstone crash co-pilot. A laptop used in a University apartment shared by Hussein al Altas and Mujahid Menepta AKA Melvin Lattimore (tied to WTC 1993 and OKC 1995) The same Moussaoui seen with Mohammed Atta at the Dreamland Motel, made famous by Mcveigh (where Mujahid Menepta was also at in 1995)

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Hey 8bit. I felt this was a synch of Afghanistan/ 9/11 as well:

As you descend into Bamiyan, the vast, empty, shadowed alcoves stand out in sharp contrast to the sandstone cliffs. Even though I had never been there before, there was an echo of the feeling I have returning home to New York, a twinned absence, a pair of empty seats at the table.The great stone Buddhas, one 175 feet high, the other 125 feet, had stood watch over the valley since at least the 6th century. http://www.slate.com/id/2104119

The Bamiyan Buddhas were Afghanistan's marveled twin towers. There was no doubt about it. Two magnificent pillars that iconized Afghan history. They were both destroyed by the Taliban, using a set of controlled demolition charges the 2nd of March, 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamiyan_Buddhas

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=343740#p343740

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By the way, all reports indicate at least one gun had been smuggled on board Flight 11, used to kill Daniel Lewin.

Also here's the link to that new documentary that is comprised entirely of extremely rare/hardly ever seen footage from 9/11, 9/12 and 9/13called "Between the Lies". It goes deep into not just the collapse of the 3 towers, but way deep into the hijackers, Pentagon, Flight 93 and especially the "United 23" story(at the hour mark)http://www.archive.org/details/Between_the_Lies

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Well for one, why is there such a detailed, wide ranging report of so many planes containing pre planted knives? Is this to mean that the four flights also had preplanted knives where the hijackers seats were?

Also, wasn’t this flight in particular grounded before they could get on board? In the early days of 9/11 reporting, there was a clear theme from all over regarding the idea of an "airport employee inside job". I think this is entirely possible.

As for why get upset...well wasnt it Atta and al-Omari(or the Buhkari Brothers?) who got into a near fight with some random guy in the airport parking lot? Wasn’t it Atta and others who got beligerent in strip clubs, bars... and according to some reports, the Oklahoma City Bombing Museum? So many of the hijackers had short fuses, getting pulled over. Going to the cops to report stolen stuff. KSM even was arrested when he visited America. These guys did NOT blend in, and the "takfir" explanation of their obsession with porn, sex toys, drugs, strippers, and hookers absolutely does not fly. As investigators have said, these guys wanted to leave an intentional breadcrumb trail. "Cool calm and collected" was not an asset that the hijackers always possessed.

Again, if we are to believe actor James Woods, law enforcement, FBI, witnesses, investigators, researchers, etc: then there was a LOT more than just the "19" who were on board flights or preparing for plane hijackings. Why would these guys make big scenes? Either they are that idiotic, or that was what they were intended to do.

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Absolutely. I mean one of these guys(Subash Gurung, who tried to board a Chicago plane) even had the same address as two of the other group of "would be hijackers" So this was clearly not misreporting and "early confusion"...but proof of at least a couple of cells.

My focus in researching 9/11 has primarily been centered on:

* The history of al Qaeda, from Maktab al-Khidamat to al Qaeda andthe al Kifah Center in Brooklyn and Boston.

*The evolution of al Kifah Center to "Care Intl." and its absorbtion into the Ptech/Yasin al Qadi realm of massachusetts/New Jersey companies. (BMI, Ptech, Logan Furniture, etc) Also the role of Ptech as an al Qaeda front, Qadi and Khalid bin Mahfoud's financing of bin Laden, and most importantly Ptech backdoor risk management architecture software on all high level US government system(including the FAA)

*Choosing of specific flight schools in America by bin Laden corporation SICO

*The evolution of the "al Qaeda" saga, from the Sadat assassination and Afghanistan to Ali Mohamed to Rabbi Khahane killing, World Trade Center 1993/Al Kifah/Al Farooq mosque/Blind Sheikh, to Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines and Manhattan jail, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed's 1994-2001 movements, to bin Laden and Zawahiri's time in Sudan and Afghanistan, to the 1998 Dar-Es-Salaam/Nairobi and USS Cole bombings, to most importantly "Jihad in Bosnia and Chechnya".

*The saga of Khalid al Midhar and Nawaf al Hazmi

*Involvement of Saudi GID, Jeddah embassy, Royals and Officials regarding both financial and material support

*Role of Able Danger, Hamburg cell, Brooklyn cell, Darkazanli, NSA eavesdropping, 1996-1998 role of American Aukai Collins as informant in Bosnia/Chechnya/Afghanistan/Phoenix AZ.

*Role of Dubai's banking system

*Role of Pakistani Intelligence, Omar Saeed Sheikh, RG Abbas, etc

*Role of Israeli spies in spying the hijackers

*Role of Muwafaq Foundation, WAMY, Holy Land, Care Intl, Benevolence International, SICO, Tatex Trading, Infocom, Infocus, and other al Qaeda linked front companies and terror financing charities.

*Trail of the hijackers in Southern California, Florida, Oklahoma, Virginia, etc.

*Role of unknown and known hijacker accomplices inside of America from 1999-2001

Do I feel I'm anymore closer to "the truth" than those who focus more on the physical anomalies of the day itself? Well, not entirely... but I definitely am convinced the 9/11 operation, to the chagrin of KSM and Zawahiri, is a very complex deep state event. The "Atef and Zawahiri" computers and raid of the Kabul al Qaeda office to me shows that the "main core" of al Qaeda were in a very small bubble unaware of the real agenda they were playing too. Zawahiri, Atef, bin Laden, KSM, etc might have felt like they were putting one over the "powers that be"...in reality al Qaeda was the one being played.

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Who was Zacharious Moussaoui hanging out with in Norman Oklahoma at the University of Oklahoma? Nick Berg, WTC 1993/OKC 1995 operative Melvin Lattimore(roomate), Hussein al-Attas (roomate, and friend of al Midhar/al Hazmi), as well as Moussaoui was seen with Mohamed Atta, alShehi, and several other hijackers. Moussaoui and Atta were taken to the same dusty "Dreamland Motel" in August of 2001 by Lattimore, that Lattimore had taken Mcveigh, Nichols and others to just a few weeks before the OKC bombing.

Moussaoui matters, because it directly connects the Kuala Lampar apartment where Moussaoui stayed, to the Nick Berg case(both Berg and Moussaoui trained at Airman Aviation in 2001), to the Oklahoma City Bombing case, and to the rest of the hijackers. Bin Laden and KSM might call Moussaoui a "wannabe", but even Moussaoui's ties to Richard Reid and the London mosque are very significant in my mind.

Al-Quatani's blocking from getting in of course revealed a weakness in al Qaeda. Because this goes straight into the central question you've been asking lately: "Did al Qaeda have backup cells and or operatives just in case something went wrong?"

Its my belief that there were extra hijacker teams and sleeper cells that al Qaeda was completely unaware of. Including the United 23 stuff, and the white Israeli connected vans in NYC and NJ. Perhaps their job was either to create further chaos... or to obfuscate.

Why did Moussaoui make such a scene? Well, we know for a fact that Hussein al-Attas drove him to MN, where he was in contact with Blackwater (according to whom he was emailing and calling) We also know Ziad Jarrah was being trained by "Men Who Stare At Goats" alumni and occult military trainer Bert Rodriguez in Florida, and had the email "ziadjarrah@ab.com"(a military subcontractor email). Melvin (Mujahid Menepta) Lattimore would have to then drive to pick up Al-Attas in MN shortly after 9/11 where both were then arrested. We know over 75 times FBI agents pleaded to get Moussaoui and search his laptop, where al Qaeda information and Nick Berg's emails were found.

In total, I believe that there is direct prima facie evidence that the same operatives were used in the World Trade Center Bombing of 1993 and the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995, and some of these guys end up within the 9/11 framework.

What connects all this is Moussaoui. At the Dreamland motel where authorities believe the OKC conspirators and plot swirled around is the exact same motel that Mousaoui, Marwan alShehi and Atta were taken too. Both involved Melvin Lattimore, who was said to have always been loitering around the motel by the owners:

http://www.laweekly.com/2002-08-01/news ... rist-motelFox News Special: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZUlAN-E_E

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4-29 2011: A Tale of Twin Egregores I'm not sure I've ever seen a singular planned event as hyped as the "Royal wedding" happening this Friday in London, and I'm in America. My friends in Europe and especially the UK say the coverage is literally suffocating. Every rite and ritual is being obsessively rehearsed to the nth degree. American network coverage plans for it are going to be pretty massive as well: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/0 ... ding/87287

But another "big wedding" is also going to happen that day. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42742020/ns ... nce-space/

It's the day when the Gabby Gifford's husband Mark Kelly commands the final NASA shuttle mission, scheduled to dock with the International Space station where he'll be reunited with his identical twin(who heads the space station) Two twins meeting in space, made even more important to the media given the tale of recovery for Senator Giffords who sustained a shattering headshot wound in the January 8th shooting rampage(chiefly among its victims, the girl born on 9/11/2001 and the judge) Obama and his family as well as Giffords will be watching on site in a private viewing area.

I'm curious what Secretsun, Goro Adachi and others will write of this day, because these two events are being made to be these hugely symbolic pivotal events.

EDIT: Just read that he gave her Princess Diana's ring. I won't go into it, but Im convinced Diana was killed (and not merely for explainable obvious political reasons). April 29th is the 119th day of the year, mirror image of 911. Just food for thought I guesshttp://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31883

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"On the anniversary of Waco and Oklahoma City (the period around April 19th always yields bad shit: VT Tech, Columbine, etc) the final space shuttle mission will launch. As a paralyzed Giffords looks on, her husband will command the final mission into space on the Discovery to meet his identicle twin brother who heads the international space station. Two twins meeting in space, on April 19th in the ongoing Giffords Tuscon shooting saga."

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=390698#p390698

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Absolutely. But on top of that, what are the chances there would be duplicate blips of actual craft (like Flight 11) that lead fighter jets in the wrong direction? While that story was never covered up, I'm not sure if it was fully explored.

I came across a lot of oddball stuff in that Vanity Fair article which was originally posted with tons of audio from NORAD. It seemed that the blips for some of these flights, like 93, kept going even after the real plane crashed...Flight 93's blip kept going onto Washington DC (another reason I think the passenger revolt or whatever it was on board that flight wasn't planned)From interviews with ATCs, pouring over reports, etc it also seems the "hijackers" turned on the transponders right before each plane crashed.

In 2005 Rupert wrote an intriguing article about the war games / flight inject phantom blips / Ptech / Saudi Arabiahttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtmlhttp://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml

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"911 & the Palladium UFO Generator"

Owners of the tabloid who became the first victim of anthrax had rented the hijackers a place to live (as well as was at the same flight school at the time Atta was there)http://www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worldandnation/Hijackers_linked_to_t.shtml

Man connected to WTC 1993, OKC 1995 and 9/11:http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/10/us/nation-challenged-detainees-no-bail-for-friend-man-suspected-preparing-for-sept.html

The guy who rented the Heaven's Gate cult his mansion was wanted for questioning by the

9/11 commission for possibly helping the hijackers, and was also the friend of Abdusattar Sheikh(the FBI informant who rented two of the hijackers their house)

The head of the paranormal research remote viewer army operations went on to train lead 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah for six months in 2001.

Ziad Jarrah had a company email with Automated Rockwell, an industrial engineer company. Moussaoui was trying to get in with Blackwater Worldwide, and Mohammed Atta was in regular contact with defense contractor companies via his email.

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Owners of the tabloid who became the first victim of anthrax had rented the hijackers a place to live (as well as was at the same flight school at the time Atta was there)http://www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worldandnation/Hijackers_linked_to_t.shtml

Man connected to WTC 1993, OKC 1995 and 9/11:http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/10/us/nation-challenged-detainees-no-bail-for-friend-man-suspected-preparing-for-sept.html

The guy who rented the Heaven's Gate cult his mansion was wanted for questioning by the 9/11 commission for possibly helping the hijackers, and was also the friend of Abdusattar Sheikh(the FBI informant who rented two of the hijackers their house)

The head of the paranormal research remote viewer army operations went on to train lead 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah for six months in 2001.

Ziad Jarrah had a company email with Automated Rockwell, an industrial engineer company. Moussaoui was trying to get in with Blackwater Worldwide, and Mohammed Atta was in regular contact with defense contractor companies via his email. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Richard Clarke: CIA covered up ties to 9/11 hijackershttp://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=397569#p397569

From pouring over the Vanity Fair NORAD piece in 2006 as well as listening to a lot of the released audio (as well as looking at what was being thought or said at the time). I always thought that instead of a "stand down", the situation was more of an "intentional confusion".

To me the key to understanding the air defenses that morning relate not just to the "is this real world or exercise" confusion, but more importantly the situation with "phantom flights". Why, even General Myers talked about "Phantom 11" before the commission. It seems there was not just a Phantom 11 and Phantom 93, but all sorts of real time hijacked blips that not only showed up on both NORAD and FAA screens; but the few available fighter jets were being

scrambled to intercept them. I always felt the phantom blips and "Angel is Next" scenario were key anomalies in the day itself; as much as my research has tended to more focus on pre 9/11 intelligence.

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http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=413279#p413279

And what about Israel? Netanyahu continually has bragged how great 9/11 was for Israel. We have the Israeli spy kids admitting on Israeli tv they were there to "document" the event.We have teams of roving white vans in NYC and NJ on sept 11th. Mass communication infiltration with defense building spying in 2000/2001. You had Israeli agents living next door/blocks away from the hijackers in Florida, as well as the B-Thing Art Collective guys who penetrated the WTC in 2000 living with Israeli spies next to the hijackers in Florida(including one living next to a Hezbollah front software company in Dallas)

The Planned By PNAC thing never made sense to me. I would even so so far as to say while Wolfy and the boys may have had a heads up(hence Wolfy's smug little grin during his June 2001 west point speech about pearl harbor's 60th anniversary) that they were far outside the inner ring of 9/11. I mean you can clearly see the arteries and backbone of 9/11 go way into the Clinton era with Serbia/Bosnia jihad support, drug running, Meir Khahane/Blind Sheikh/WTC/Al Kifah/Wadidh el Hage and Bojinka. Peter Lance has written some pretty incriminating and insightful books on this stuff

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Man tied to WTC 1993, OKC and 9/11 hijacker plot

Mr. Whitney told the court that Mr. Menepta, who was born Melvin Lattimore in St. Louis, and changed his name in 1989 after converting to Islam, came to the attention of the authorities the day after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. He testified that an informer told federal agents that Mr. Menepta had belonged to an Islamic group in Norman and St. Louis, whose leaders advocated terrorist acts and killing law enforcement agents.

Mr. Whitney also told the court that Mr. Menepta had said the Secret Service told him that one of the terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993 had used his visa number. Mr. Whitney said he could not confirm Mr. Menepta's account.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Menepta, who lives in Norman, gave several interviews in which he defended Mr. Moussaoui, 33, whom he knew through a mosque. Mr. Moussaoui, a French citizen of Moroccan descent was arrested in Minneapolis on Aug. 17 on immigration charges after he sought lessons on how to fly jets, but expressed no interest in learning how to take off or land.

Mr. Moussaoui lived in Norman last year while a student at the Airman Flight School there. Mr. Menepta told The Daily Oklahoman in an interview on Oct. 2 that he had seen Mr. Moussaoui every day at a local mosque and would be shocked if he were involved in the attacks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/10/us/na ... -sept.html

All a coincidence, Im sure

Also anyone read Peter Lance's book A Thousand Years For Revenge? It devotes a lot of time to WTC 1992-1993 plot, anticev, salem, etc. As well as a story Ramzi Yousef met Terry Nichols, and then some story of the FBI using a famous mob boss son in jail to get Yousef to talk to Khalid Sheikh Mohamed and spill the Bojinka plot in 1996. Or something like that.