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to the chat tonight! http://t.co
/ShmZsxm9
about 37 minutes ago RT
@neda1400: #ukmeded
clerking pts during on-call,presenting to the SHO, following
management then presenting on the
ward-round was great learning tool
about 42 minutes ago
@christipladycan you have a
look at #twitfrg ... they were looking
for a haematologist:) #ukmeded
about 43 minutes ago
@christipladycovers
everything... but today we were
talking about undergrads:)
#ukmeded
about 44 minutes ago RT
@Danielf90: #ukmeded It'salso useful for junior doctors to flag
up concerns about students EARLY
both with student and with
consultant supervisor.
about 46 minutes ago
#ukmeded Sorry I missed this
tonight. Does this hashtag cover
postgrad meded too?
about 51 minutes ago RT
@Dr_Derek_Jones: OT
community (educators & students)
should check out #ukmeded; lots of
common issues discussed,
opportunity for real inter prof
learning
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about 53 minutes ago @NHSwhistleblowr: @tcbtttc
@SarahMahmood3@amcunningham My daughter had to
tell student off on round recently. was texting. #ukmeded OMG!
about 55 minutes ago @DrBenRiley: .@drsimoncurtis It's
the new old adage: See 1, do 10, teach 100! #ukmeded so
true
about 55 minutes ago@BrianSMcGowan putting two tags in
every tweet is a hassle! #ukmeded worked well tonight:) the
old discussion http://t.co/ul8UBcgN
about 58 minutes ago@amcunningham - ok - thought the
noise may be rising to the level that a new hashtag wasworthy... #meded#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@BrianSMcGowan we thought we would
try new tag... but may go back:) #meded#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@BrianSMcGowan was thought therewould
be cross-contamination if we used #meded ...but looking at
it I see little in the timeslot #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@BrianSMcGowan I was happy to stick
with #meded but much discussion and others thought
#ukmeded better....
about 1 hour ago@amcunningham - why change the
hashtag? #meded#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@amcunningham I've been
following all these #ukmeded tweets with great interest!#SLTjumpingonthebandwagon
about 1 hour ago@DundeePsych Good suggestion we will
add to the list! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlafferty#ukmeded how about careers?
how do we give careers advice? how 2 help students decide
what specialty is right for them?
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about 1 hour ago@nisciocco@tcbtttc@fakethom
@LizzyFerret@Danielf90#ukmeded yes they are, but so are
we- learn from each other not argue re who is better
about 1 hour ago@DundeePsych We haven't decided yet,
but welcome suggestions for future topics :) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded what's next week's topic?
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: Involving medical
students in staff development activities http://t.co
/6ry3X0Zz Via @annalisamanca#ukmeded#meded
about 1 hour ago RT @mintygreenmedic: #ukmeded was
brilliant a bit like our med schools meet the faculty but you
feel like the message is getting across to some actual Drs!
about 1 hour ago@amcunningham also should have said -
introduce med st to ward teams properly and nurses will be
more helpful! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: Involving medicalstudents in staff development activities http://t.co
/6ry3X0Zz Via @annalisamanca#ukmeded#meded
about 1 hour ago@DrBenRileygreat idea, will try and
arrange this during current GP rotation as do struggle with
practical baby q's from new mums! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Involving medical students in staff
development activities http://t.co/6ry3X0Zz Via@annalisamanca#ukmeded#meded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded oh yeah i totally know what this
means
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm here it is http://t.co/xzwMGvVn
@neda1400@nlafferty#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nlafferty: @Duncan_Ross You can find out
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more here https://t.co/Pjj1hgFn and here http://t.co
/3B3vJNrx#ukmeded We'll be back next week.
about 1 hour ago@Duncan_Ross You can find out more
here https://t.co/Pjj1hgFn and here http://t.co/3B3vJNrx
#ukmeded We'll be back next week.
about 1 hour ago RT @mintygreenmedic: #ukmeded was
brilliant a bit like our med schools meet the faculty but you
feel like the message is getting across to some actual Drs!
about 1 hour ago@chebbes Thanks for joining in! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @mintygreenmedic: #ukmeded wasbrilliant a bit like our med schools meet the faculty but you
feel like the message is getting across to some actual Drs!
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret Great to have you back and
now I can follow up with you more easily now that you're
back in Dundee :) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded was brilliant a bit like our med
schools meet the faculty but you feel like the message is
getting across to some actual Drs!
about 1 hour ago thanks to all involved in #ukmeded Great
to take part in it again! #twitfrg also v useful :)
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle Glad you joined us, it was good
to have some familiar faces :) #ukmeded@AnnalisaManca
@amcunningham
about 1 hour ago@Duncan_Ross read all here http://t.co
/EFmjO8fY#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@JLM_drivel@lizzyferret@tcbtttc
@danielf90@fakethom I think only on starting anaes did I
learn to draw up drugs or hang fluids #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded...don't try and know everything, keep a
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sense of humour, be kind and compassionate, win the
lottery, retire early
about 1 hour ago@Sammy_Lou@nisciocco would also solve
prob of spending x hrs filling forms = summative reward but
x hrs seeing pts unrewarded #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Thanks to @nlaffertyand
@amcunningham for behind the scenes #ukmeded
Stimulating debate. Time to have a read by the fire before bed!
about 1 hour ago What's the #ukmeded hashtag all about? I
feel like I've missed something...
about 1 hour ago it's great to have a new set of people joiningin with #ukmeded chat... and of course lovely to see the 'old'
faces too:)
about 1 hour ago@AnnalisaManca@nlafferty
@amcunningham yep, thanks to both. Glad I was online.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Wow. Loads of followers from #ukmeded
chat! Welcome aboard! =)
about 1 hour ago RT @nlafferty: Thanks to everyone who
joined in #ukmeded chat, feel free to continue & add your
tips to our G+ post for tonight's chat http://t.co/WRID3Ds7
about 1 hour ago@nisciocco@tcbtttc@fakethom
@LizzyFerret@faejones@Danielf90#ukmeded that's a very
wrong and insulting generalisation! Teamwork, guys...
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded chat was great tonight! Thanks
all :)
about 1 hour ago@nisciocco@tcbtttc@fakethom@faejones
@Danielf90 well I and @DundeePsych would want to beg to
differ I'm sure :P #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nlafferty: Thanks to everyone who joined in
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#ukmeded chat, feel free to continue & add your tips to our
G+ post for tonight's chat http://t.co/WRID3Ds7
about 1 hour ago@amcunningham You too! :) I'm glad we
finally got round to starting up again :) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nlafferty: Thanks to everyone who
joined in #ukmeded chat, feel free to continue & add your
tips to our G+ post for tonight's chat http://t.co/WRID3Ds7
about 1 hour ago Enjoyed #ukmeded chat - reminded me of
#tipsfornewdocs
about 1 hour ago Thanks to everyone who joined in
#ukmeded chat, feel free to continue & add your tips to ourG+ post for tonight's chat http://t.co/WRID3Ds7
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret@tcbtttc@Danielf90
@fakethom def agree. 3wks nursing unit too much but wld
love 2 lrn basic courtesy lvl nrsing tasks #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nisciocco looks really good as a record
too in your portfolio! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@tcbtttc@fakethom@LizzyFerret
@faejones@Danielf90 Nurses often communicate better
with the patients than most doctors. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: #ukmeded Students -
don't roll your eyes and look disinterested if you're asked to
get involved. We'd rather you weren't there in that case.
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm@neda1400@nlaffertyit
definitely does, more realistic and requires a greater effort.
Trying to find the paper... #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @fakethom Excellent discussion from
all, I've certainly learnt stuff I will use! Thanks everyone (esp
@amcunningham )! #ukmeded Agreed!
about 1 hour ago RT @AnnalisaManca: great #ukmeded chat
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tonight, I've enjoyed reading through - thanks to the great
moderators! @nlafferty@amcunningham
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyit did indeed fly by:) well done!
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle excellent point, thank u r fab 4
junior drs portfolios, chocolate is tasty but nice thank u card
worth weight in gold #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago great #ukmeded chat tonight, I've enjoyed
reading through - thanks to the great moderators!
@nlafferty@amcunningham
about 1 hour ago@AnnalisaManca@neda1400@nlaffertyworks well - helps students develop feedback skills,
strengthens idea experts thru experience #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@tablet_girl Looks like we might need to
change the time so as not to clash with #ukmeded!
about 1 hour ago@tcbtttc@Danielf90@fakethom rather
than letting the place get flooded as "thats a nurses job" such
a shadowing shift would help #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@tcbtttc@fakethom@LizzyFerret
@faejones@Danielf90 not here they don't- in my ward docs
and nurses all get loads of time with pts #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: Imagine that is an
hour of#ukmeded chat over already! You can continue and
see our G+ page :) http://t.co/EFmjO8fY
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm gosh- that's a complex thought
for a tweet:) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@h_jones21 Absolutely right, look for less
obvious sources of learning, half a day with a radiologist or
micro could be gold mine #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyyes, me too #ukmeded
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about 1 hour ago Broaden your questioning repertoire
beyond 'what' - why, when, who, which,how get to more
complex types of thinking and reasoning #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm@neda1400@nlaffertyYep -
have started doing peer observation recently. Really useful.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Sammy_Lou: Use reflections to help
work out learning points from difficult days/patients. Also
just to clear your own thoughts! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded chat has flown
by tonight, great to see so many new people joining in, we'llbe posting summary of the key points & the transcript
about 1 hour ago@AnnalisaManca Have reported as a
spammer #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: Imagine that is an
hour of#ukmeded chat over already! You can continue and
see our G+ page :) http://t.co/EFmjO8fY
about 1 hour ago oh no... first scam :( #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom great- we'll try and draw out
some summary learning points from this great discussion!
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded chat has flown by tonight, great
to see so many new people joining in, we'll be postingsummary of the key points & the transcript
about 1 hour ago#ImAttractedTo#20factsaboutmysister
#gma12 #ukmeded#AskDale Watch me Fcuk at http://t.co
/TEDVjNVh its FREE :-)
about 1 hour ago@tcbtttc@thefourthcraw Really? If I was
in the wrong, I hope I'd accept it rather than plead bullying -
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professionalism #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Structured observation great clin teaching
tool - prime to observe carefully, analyse and interpret
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago but you just sort of said that nurses just
empty stuff in the sluice :-) #ukmeded@LizzyFerret
@danielf90@fakethom
about 1 hour ago Excellent discussion from all, I've certainly
learnt stuff I will use tomorrow! Thanks everyone (esp
@amcunningham ) - must dash! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: .@neda1400 Greatresources for faculty development in #meded from London
Deaneryhttp://t.co/N0nNcPZg#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Imagine that is an hour of#ukmeded chat
over already! You can continue and see our G+ page :)
http://t.co/EFmjO8fY
about 1 hour ago@amcunningham Role of SocMed like
#ukmeded in professional development? Students definitely
interact with SocMed, less so with 'portfolio'..
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm@neda1400 Manchester
Medical School "used" students for staff development in
teaching @nlafferty#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom in my old job students had no
access to anything - used to drive me mad! How are theyexpected to look at imaging? #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle love a bit of PACS - especially
since I worked out the contrast controls and the fancy
side-by-side display#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @mgacsm: @neda1400@nlaffertyhow
about doing some peer observation of teaching with
colleagues and students. - improve together #ukmeded
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about 1 hour ago Use reflections to help work out learning
points from difficult days/patients. Also just to clear your
own thoughts! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Nurses actually talk to the patients for
longer than the docs do #ukmeded@fakethom@lizzyferret
@faejones@danielf90
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle we're given access, if not
should be reasonable for it to be arranged. So useful, esp for
presentations etc #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: .@neda1400 Great
resources for faculty development in #meded from LondonDeaneryhttp://t.co/N0nNcPZg#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@anthphowe we wanted to
start with a non-techy topic to show potential of#ukmeded
:)
about 1 hour ago RT @pollygary: @Danielf90: In med
school, we all had to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO.
WORTH. IT. #ukmeded> great idea from your med school
about 1 hour ago@chebbes Ill be interested to compare the
views of the 1st & 2nd years Im tutoring. my previous exp is
confidence dips! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@neda1400@nlaffertyhow about doing
some peer observation of teaching with colleagues and
students. - improve together #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@h_jones21 hospice or going round with
palliative care may help readjust perceptions of care for the
patient, not just conditions #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@neda1400 We have staff development
courses, cert meded etc, also included in undergrad
curriculum, #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@Danielf90@iamdoctord@nlaffertyMoving
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frequently btw teams also makes developing clinical
leadership skills more challenging #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far
more relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@neda1400 Great resources for faculty
development in #meded from London Deaneryhttp://t.co
/N0nNcPZg#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Another tip for students - try (often not
easy) to get access to hospital systems (bloods, PACS
(imaging)) - so often untapped. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago @Danielf90: In med school, we all had to
shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded> great idea from your med school
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle yes, and F1 etc don't be afraid
to ask for emails to do portfolio feedback stuff - always
happy to do. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nisciocco: #ukmeded students
clerking new patients to present on ward round - really
useful learning experience too.
about 1 hour ago Just wait, you'll find out....fact of life alas
@LizzyFerret@fakethom@danielf90#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @neda1400: @nlaffertyHow do
doctors improve their medical teaching skills? I find itdifficult to get much support in this. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@anthphowe@amcunningham it seems
iPads ok but phones not, based on what their perceived use
is. Anyway, I'll save that!! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@neda1400 all medical schools in UK are
putting effort into developing #ukmeded skills of tutors...
GMC directive:)
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about 1 hour ago@EilidhPinkChic Actually nominating Prof
Nathwani's a great idea, he sponsors the awards through
ACT but he deserves one! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlafferty@DrDLittle Talk of study
budget being taken in by deaneries and used teach rather
than filling hospital pockets. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@amcunningham Definitely
scope for this, discussions have happened on LinkedIn, not
as far reaching on Twitter as todays #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@drsimoncurtis It's the new old adage: See
1, do 10, teach 100! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyHow do doctors improve their
medical teaching skills? I find it difficult to get much support
in this. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @neda1400: #ukmeded clerking pts
during on-call, presenting to the SHO, following
management then presenting on the ward-round was great learning
tool
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: #ukmeded Students -
don't roll your eyes and look disinterested if you're asked to
get involved. We'd rather you weren't there in that case.
about 1 hour ago@JLM_drivel@h_jones21 Agree top down
approach won't work but would be good if could help
facilitate dialogue & sharing of info #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlafferty@h_jones21 there are also a
number of courses run to help teachers eg UCL TIPs
courses/PG modules. COI: I run some! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyGeneral rule: If you find
someone smiling, who says hello, start there. They are
probably willing to help/teach you. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Students - provide feedback and thanks (card,
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letter, bar of chocolate) for doctors who teach you well, this
will encourage them! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom no we haven't done this
already... and will definitely add to the list:) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nisciocco Thank you, I will do! :) Want to
get involved but don't want to get in the way! - How do you
keep a good balance? #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@iamdoctord@nlaffertyThe problem is
that juniors move so often that there's not often continuity.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@butlerceri I met my tutees today -interesting talk about getting the most out of school,
objectives and backgrounds. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Theme of the day as thread of continuity in
opportunistic setting eg trace pt reporting of drug side
effects and match to bnf#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Perhaps a future discussion regarding
technology (smartphones/iPads etc) on wards? (If not done
already!!) #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded Students - don't roll your eyes
and look disinterested if you're asked to get involved. We'd
rather you weren't there in that case.
about 1 hour ago Well, this is a wonderful #ukmeded
discussion! Any ideas about future topics?
about 1 hour ago RT @philaberry: #ukmeded A student on
ward for the first time will remember his/her initial
interaction with a consultant FOREVER! So make it nice...
about 1 hour ago .@tcbtttc@fakethom@Danielf90 ?? With
a foot in both camps I can't really begin to agree with that.
#ukmeded
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about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyI have seen the threat of
withdrawal of money have a dramatic effect. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @philaberry: #ukmeded A student on
ward for the first time will remember his/her initial
interaction with a consultant FOREVER! So make it nice...
about 1 hour ago@Sammy_Lou sounds good, always
thought we should 'clock-in' and out like nursing students.
Get annoyed at students who skive. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyyes, provided it doesn't mean
enthusiastic ones left to carry the load alone. Perhaps
partition time for them to teach #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded A student on ward for the first
time will remember his/her initial interaction with a
consultant FOREVER! So make it nice...
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret@faejones@Danielf90 that's
a little short sighted to what nurse do I think. Also their roles
in a&e/triage etc #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago yes I have them on my ITU ward rounds
but can say nothing #ukmeded@NHSwhistleblowr
@sarahmahmood3@amcunningham
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90@fakethom@LizzyFerret
#ukmeded better 2 get job as care worker! I still use skills
from nursing home work 12 yr l8r as psych reg
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@Danielf90 well in nursingterms thats 3 shifts... still not sure thats entirely necessary
but better than three weeks. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@h_jones21 GMC introducing new
guidelines/framework on teaching and ensuring doctors
trained to teach #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @jonjhilton: @Sammy_Lou if I had a
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minimum number of hours I could pick and choose more
freely when I could be in placement #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Esp useful for women med students as
female nurses will treat you differently from men #ukmeded
@LizzyFerret@fakethom@danielf90
about 1 hour ago@Sammy_Lou My GF is a nurse and
during her training she picked when she "worked" - would
love to do that! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Im meeting my new MBBS tutees next
week & looking forward to exploring some of these issues
with them #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@iamdoctord@DrDLittle@nisciocco yes.
Anything to ensure you don't get overwhelmed!! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@amcunningham Some of the friendliest
experiences I've had at my diabetes clinic have been with
Medical Students, very interested #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle Yes, I know its a constant bone
of contention with many#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@jonjhilton@chebbes in theory yes if they
are getting paid for it! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@faejones@fakethom@Danielf90 useful
to know how to empty a bottle in the sluice yes, but you dont
need three weeks to learn it #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Sammy_Lou if I had a minimum number
of hours I could pick and choose more freely when I could be
in placement #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@chebbes absolutely,I have torn my hair out on a
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few placements with RE:learning,have felt few hrs in library
would've been better! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@h_jones21 Completely agree! Experience
of different clinical environments can be key for those
disillusioned with tertiary centres #UKmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 Our studentn feedback forms
now all include opportunity to highlight good teachers &
nominate 4 award #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlafferty@h_jones21 jrs keen 2 teach cld
post on uni medstud forums. again, nt sure top down rating
system wld b accurate/useful #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle@nisciocco@fakethom
dedicate yourself to one area e.g. minors for fixed time, then
rotate often to avoid boredom! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago I worked as a nursing auxiliary in my
university holidays. Invaluable learning #ukmeded
@LizzyFerret@fakethom@danielf90
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded try and arrange regular bedside
teaching even if the juniors/consultants don't take the
initiative.
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyoften depends on having a good
control of where the money goes - in my limited experience,
this is rare. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@fakethom@Danielf90 rounds, dressingchanges etc etc. but apart from that... #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@thechadologist where are you studying?
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@LizzyFerret I think 3 weeks is
excessive + nurses have to agree to be lumbered with us for
that long. #ukmeded
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about 1 hour ago@Danielf90@neda1400@nlaffertyAlways
filling out feedback forms (from postgrad)& given email to
F1, portfolio feedback if wanted. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrBenRileyin 3rd week yr1 we have
already visited patient in comm w/social work students.
Their perspective on Hx taking v useful #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @NHSwhistleblowr: @tcbtttc
@SarahMahmood3@amcunningham My daughter had to
tell student off on round recently. She was texting. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago I used to organise that for our ITU trainees
VERY good for inter professional understanding #ukmeded@rdjfraser@danielf90@nurchat
about 1 hour ago@chebbes@drdlittle i always thought it
was clinician preference (with a bit of monetary incentive...)
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@fakethom@Danielf90 deffo useful to
spend a little time with them doing key elements of their
day. But DEF not 2-3 weeks! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret@fakethom@Danielf90
Basic #nursing skills can help you feel useful on wards &
important to understand all role of MDT #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyI think ensuring a good policy of
'training to train' - good support for teachers so they can
maximise teaching ability#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm@danielf90 plus an
understanding what other healthcare pro's do, and where
you fit in to the big picture #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@chebbes@drdlittle this is news to me -
doesn't this mean *all* cons should have students?
#ukmeded
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about 1 hour ago Reading the #ukmeded tweets is so
interesting
about 1 hour ago@fakethom@Danielf90#ukmeded And
vice-versa
about 1 hour ago@tcbtttc@SarahMahmood3
@amcunningham My daughter had to tell student off on
round recently. She was texting. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret@fakethom@Danielf90 I did
a week, but kept getting told by the nurses to go join the DRs
on WR!! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@LizzyFerret@Danielf90 really? Gets used
to ward environment, learn skills, improve pt
communication and appreciation for nurses #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@jonjhilton At the time it felt like a lot of
time on placement,esp when other deadlines,but so
beneficial with hindsight #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @nisciocco: @DrDLittle@iamdoctord@Danielf90@fakethom Less busy in the mornings though!
Even just shadowing a dr can be useful #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle Think this is tightening up with
measurement of teaching etc and funding may well bewithdrawn #ukmeded Is it worse post qual?
about 1 hour ago Need to remind ourselves that work is the
curriculum for learning - don't take away from patients to
teach patient care - #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@mgacsm@danielf90 and follow a pt
through their journey through the health system - great
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revelations #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 very curious, what was the
benefit? #ukmeded#RNchat@NurChat
about 1 hour ago but the non consultants have to lookinterested too otherwise we just go on in a business ward
round style @DrDLittle@jonjhilton#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago Clinical teaching shouldnt just be limited to
hospital/GP..as student one of my best learning experiences
was day spent at hospice #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@neda1400@nlaffertyI agree - I put in
LOADS of effort with our med students. Would be nice toknow if I'm doing a good job. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @roopa_patel: #ukmeded Help the
juniors, but make sure it's a give-and-take relationship. It's
good for their learning too. But don't become their lackey!
about 1 hour ago Most departments paid to deliver teaching -
if they're not this money should be withdrawn - things would
soon improve. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago .@fakethom@Danielf90 2-3 WEEKS? are
you kidding? not at all necessary. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago I need a wee so bad but this #ukmeded is
too interesting. Aaaaaahh - #whattodo
about 1 hour ago#ukmeded Help the juniors, but make sureit's a give-and-take relationship. It's good for their learning
too. But don't become their lackey!
about 1 hour ago@h_jones21 I know, just wonder if there's
more that med schools could be doing to support students.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Dr_Derek_Jones: OT community
(educators & students) should check out #ukmeded; lots of
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common issues discussed, opportunity for real inter prof learning
about 1 hour ago RT @DrDLittle: If feeling brave - consider
'upside down' ward round where student/junior leads and
consultant writes in the notes. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle was also the only morning
ward round we were allowed on so very annoying when it
wasn't done #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@chebbes@jonjhilton but it isn't alwayslike that, in fact, often only the minority are truly interested.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyNot sure med school is right
level here. Rest assured that we students have own pathways
to communicate this! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle yeah, training courses + annual
leave - just happened to fall on Wednesdays a few weeks
running #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 so did we. Amazingly useful
experience. I think students should do 2-3 week nursing
placement at start of clinical yrs #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @mgacsm: @Danielf90 agree! Shadow
a patient works well - powerful if they have communicationproblems eg dysphasia #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90#ukmeded great stuff-
students on placement with us can shadow ward nurses,
CPNs, OT, psychologist, ward physio + more
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about 1 hour ago@Danielf90@amcunningham totally agree
that shadowing/working with nurses is one of best
approaches to learn how systems work. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrBenRileyI think inter professional
learning and exchange should be pushed #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 agree! Shadow a patient works
well - powerful if they have communication problems eg
dysphasia #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyJunior doctors should have
more support / guidance and even maybe monitored
feedback on teaching med students #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@jonjhilton@Sammy_Lou Exactly doctors
need to be interested enough in the students to let us slow
their wrs for things like this. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 interesting, should get our
students doing that! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago In final year we are all assigned to an F1and ward for a placement. Already feel much more engaged.
First real bit of continuity#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Danielf90 as a former nurse I'm not sure
I'd entirely agree. Maybe a few elements of their day but not
the whole thing. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@ambulancemandan Agree, I know our
students really enjoy their stint with the paramedics.#ukmeded chat
about 1 hour ago#Ukmeded I feel many Drs forget how
overwhelming hospitals can be for students. We often have
disjointed timetables; it's easy to feel lost!
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
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#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertythink students tend to chat
amongst themselves and seek out the best teachers anyway!
#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago this is great! RT @Danielf90: In med
school, we all had to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO.
WORTH. IT. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle@jonjhilton All should be - it's
part of their job - GMC Duties of a doctor and the consultant
contract #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@anthphowe It's so easy as a Dr to shrug &say "well, it's their problem, not mine" but it *IS* my
problem if u're not performing. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago As an F1 my advice would be, do ward
rounds with the juniors and not just consultants as you'll be
expected to do them alone soon! #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.
#ukmeded Sounds like a great idea!
about 1 hour ago@DrDLittle@iamdoctord@Danielf90
@fakethom Less busy in the mornings though! Even just
shadowing a dr can be useful #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @Danielf90: In med school, we all had
to shadow a nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT.#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@xS4llyx lol thought it said #ukmedd
instead of#ukmeded
about 1 hour ago In med school, we all had to shadow a
nurse/do a nursing shift. SO. WORTH. IT. #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@nlaffertyworkload varies, we recommend a few
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constants e.g. transplant clinic, monday ward round, junior
doc teaching #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @butlerceri 'All teachers can and
should learn from their students.Teaching, like research, is a
two-way process for me.' Agree #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago@Sammy_Lou But possible to attend
without it being useful learning. Depends on individual
learning styles, thats another debate #ukmeded
about 1 hour ago RT @amcunningham: hey#ukmeded is
trending in the UK... no 3:)
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 Agree. Id like to know if Iwasnt approaching something right/wasnt performing
properly and correct ASAP with guidance. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago I advise start to do by asking what am I
doing today - then what can med student do with me,
instead of me and watching me #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton definitely depends on having
a consultant who is interested. Otherwise you've no chance.
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@NHSwhistleblowr
@sarahmahmood3@amcunningham if people look
interested on the ward rounds the time is more useful
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Can med schools be doing
more to highlight which Drs are keen and most supportiveon attachments/wards?
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@fakethom ...that i had to
turn teaching away as I didn't have time for it all. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Sammy_Lou I'd like to have this, at the
moment I just have to be in enough for my consultant to
deem it "acceptable" #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago Doctors/MedStus can learn lots from
range of professionals as well as other doctors - nurses,
pharmacists, physios, and more... #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@iamdoctord@nisciocco
@Danielf90 introduce to nurse in charge. Find 1 doctor to
guide you and focus on one or two pts #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago When you see a patient always write out a
differential diagnosis and a management plan, then compare
it to what the actual plan is #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @Dr_Derek_Jones: OT community
(educators & students) should check out #ukmeded; lots ofcommon issues discussed, opportunity for real inter prof learning
about 2 hours ago@Dr_Derek_Jones thanks for
encouraging wide participation... we love OTs:) #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@iamdoctord@nisciocco
@fakethom It's about finding a keen doctor who'll let you
clerk a patient. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom that is easier said
than done for most students, I wish I'd been more assertive
as a student. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @Dr_Derek_Jones: OT community
(educators & students) should check out #ukmeded; lots of
common issues discussed, opportunity for real inter prof learning
about 2 hours ago@docnicknicksame here. Really usefuland enjoyable (if a little scary!) #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @m0102940: If you are on a surgical
attachment visit the anaesthetic room we'll ensure you can
cannulate with the best of them #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Love that #UKMedEd is trending! As a
student I feel it's something Drs of all ages should engage in
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& also poorly understood by the public!
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle other 4 consultants didn't
seem to care about teaching, as we were only under 1
consultant they didn't want us #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago OT community (educators & students)
should check out #ukmeded; lots of common issues
discussed, opportunity for real inter prof learning
about 2 hours ago With regards to students attending
placements- we had set minimum hrs for each placement
which if not met meant not passing #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded It's also useful for juniordoctors to flag up concerns about students EARLY both with
student and with consultant supervisor.
about 2 hours ago@iamdoctord@nisciocco@Danielf90
@fakethom MAU and A&E often very busy though... any tips
to get around that? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@iamdoctord Is a timetable,
would it be helpful to know what opportunities not to miss,
which staff can be most help etc
about 2 hours ago RT @m0102940: If you are on a surgical
attachment visit the anaesthetic room we'll ensure you can
cannulate with the best of them #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@kittcott Explanation of how you got
from the info presented to your plan is so helpful or get us towork thru it ourselves! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@elinlowri@Danielf90 Feeling useful
AND appreciated are key to happiness & lifelong learning at
whatever grade. Not just at work#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@fakethom@iamdoctord@nisciocco
@Danielf90 did you request the MRI ;) #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago If you are on a surgical attachment visit
the anaesthetic room we'll ensure you can cannulate with the
best of them #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@RichSwitch glad to hear you have made
a good recovery:) #ukmeded#crohns
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: +ve of discussing
#ukmeded is that those at start get great tips for future, but
those teaching can learn from their students. Full circle.
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham@flobach all teachers
can and should learn from their students. Teaching, like
research, is a two-way process for me. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded I dont do dead bodies...im
sorry...I prefer living woman...not dead people....I am not
Jimmy Savile!!!
about 2 hours ago@mintygreenmedic sorry I didn't see the
clerking bit!! Yes of course :) #multitasking#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@docnicknickAfter 1 day, I saw ALL myown patients in GP. Patient wrote in to say what great care
I'd given them! #ProudestMoment#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded I myself
have #crohns and have just been discharged from
Huddersfield Hospital today after 8 days in.
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle if the consultant who signed
off the students wasn't there then we were ignored andshunned to the side lines #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago .@nisciocco@DrDLittle Dont you have
something like that most weeks in Comm Skills sessions?
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@iamdoctord@nisciocco@Danielf90 had
a great experience with start to finish management of ?cauda
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equina in A&E yesterday. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: +ve of discussing
#ukmeded is that those at start get great tips for future, but
those teaching can learn from their students. Full circle.
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: I'm learning from
students all the time:) #ukmeded T @flobach:
@amcunningham something qualified docs can learn from their
students!
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: Interested in #MedEd why
not join us for the #ukmeded chat at 9pm this evening
looking at how to get the best from clinical attachments
about 2 hours ago +ve of discussing #ukmeded is that those
at start get great tips for future, but those teaching can learn
from their students. Full circle.
about 2 hours ago@chebbes Hi Chris - welcome to
#ukmeded chat
about 2 hours ago Adopting a patient as your own&
presenting everyday on ward round- get to know the patient
so well&track their treatment throughout #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton what made them terrible?
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle we all clerked a pt to present -
in 6 weeks it happened twice #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Bit late to the party, but multitasking.
Chris, ST3 in Anaesthetics in Leics / Education fellow /
Personal tutor / MMedSci (MedEd) #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago What are your tips for getting the most
out of clinical placements as a medical student? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @docofagesSophie: #ukmeded keep
up with your patients. Go with them to tests.A familiar
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friendly face can reassure and is important role.
about 2 hours ago@nisciocco@amcunningham I like to
help too. I need good young docs ! Important! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle that would be good too.Dedicated teaching clinics are great too - where Dr observes
student take hx & examination. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle Wednesday morning was
teaching ward round of my surgery placement last year
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded
@DundeePsych has been asking students to leave a tip forother students at end of placement, anyone else doing anything
similar?
about 2 hours ago RT @docofagesSophie: #ukmeded keep
up with your patients. Go with them to tests.A familiar
friendly face can reassure and is important role.
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded RT @Bigscout:
@amcunningham yes, asked permission and gave me a DRE
immediately after consultant, definitely broke the ice. ;o)
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded In GP practice we have student
clinics where students see pt first then we come in after
presented and formed opinion. (5th yr)
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle good in theory but I've been
on some terrible "teaching" ward rounds #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@DundeePsych has been
asking students to leave a tip for other students at end of
placement, anyone else doing anything similar?
about 2 hours ago @anniecoops: @amcunningham med
students seem to listen more carefully, display high regard
#ukmededneed to maintain that at all cost
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about 2 hours ago@elinlowri Hello :) We saw you on the
#ukmeded chat and had to follow. Hope you're enjoying
yourself.
about 2 hours ago Interested in UK Medical Education?
Follow@amcunningham and #ukmeded taking place now.
Interesting discussion.
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded keep up with your patients. Go
with them to tests.A familiar friendly face can reassure and
is important role.
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: I'm learning from
students all the time:) #ukmeded T @flobach:@amcunningham something qualified docs can learn from their
students!
about 2 hours ago@nisciocco@Danielf90@fakethom MAU
/ A&E excellent opportunities to learn, get practical skills,
show enthusiasm! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago As an F1 our med students helped
learn/do cannulation and phlebotomy in return for teachingthem.They have to be assessed first now#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @RichSwitch: @amcunningham
#ukmeded patient sometimes feels out of the loop (perhaps)
there are good opportunities to explore and understand why.
about 2 hours ago As a student PA, I took part in ward
rounds the same as med students-not being afraid to get
stuck in& write in the notes v.helpful #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @Danielf90: #ukmeded students, if
you're asked to present an ECG/CXR on ward round, do it
formally/thoroughly even if more senior doctors don't #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@fakethom@DrDLittle@Danielf90 No
list of cannulae on my ward :)))))) #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@mintygreenmedic@fakethom if u don't have
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an answer, that's fine but I'd hate to lumber a student w/
bloods when they dn't want it #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @LizzyFerret: Elizabeth, Dundee 2nd
Year. #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@DrDLittle@fakethom
sometimes a v difficult q to answer though- I want to learn
but its difficult to be specific. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: hey#ukmeded is
trending in the UK... no 3:)
about 2 hours ago RT @anniecoops: @amcunningham med
students seem to listen more carefully, display high regard
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago well done & best of luck finding a good job
#ukmeded@Sammy_Lou@amcunningham
about 2 hours ago Thanks for Med WE advice! :) SO excited
and want to make the most out of the couple of weeks!
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago I'm learning from students all the time:)
#ukmeded T @flobach: @amcunningham something
qualified docs can learn from their students!
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded feels thatthey have ownership of their treatment. It enhances the
positive learning experience. But even when the
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom and if there are
nothing much to do for student I think it is ok for them to go
to library or down to A&E/MAU. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @docnicknick: #ukmeded Our
patients love seeing med students esp when they go and visitthem at home
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 Saw you tweeting about
#ukmeded and had to follow! Hope your Thursday is going
great!
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Not all days on ward are
pleasant, you may have bad experience. Reflect, talk about it,
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as you can learn from even a bad tutor!
about 2 hours ago@mintygreenmedic as long as it's not just
before finals! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: hey#ukmeded istrending in the UK... no 3:)
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle radiology teaching sessions
based on cases brought from ward are really useful, and
encourage some more thought on ward #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Fimb@lillieputian thank you- that is
lovely feedback! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 at Dundee we follow a pt
through our first 3 years as part of the GPPC element of the
course. Its quite useful. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton you need a keen consultant to
instigate - the rest can follow. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham med students seem to
listen more carefully, display high regard #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@neda1400 Just started following! Hope
you're enjoying #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded is trending! 3 in the UK!
about 2 hours ago@mintygreenmedic Think this is
something I need to do more. Thanks! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham only graduated 3 weeks
ago so currently job hunting-but am fresh off placements so
opinions from a student POV! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@docofagesSophie Some of my favourite
experiences in 1st yr were chatting beyond pathology to
patients, develop comms skills early#ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far
more relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded I suspect
that the quality of the learning experience for the med
student is greater, the closer that the patient
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded RT @Fimb:a medical student
attended the birth of my son.. He was actually s great
support, and asked very good questions afterwards
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom no, that is what
you want to be doing after finals ideally. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@nlaffertytimetable of teaching
opportunities available given to all students. Time on renal
unit brief for local med students! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago I've always wanted to send a student
home with a patient when they're d/c'd so they can
appreciate that we treat real people. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@care2carenurse We're chatting about
how to get the most out of clinical attachments #ukmeded
chat
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded When you take a DH try to
match it to PMH. Ask yourself does each condition have a
drug and are there any drugs but no PMH.
about 2 hours ago Sadly we don't have ward rounds or evenwards in radiology - make sure you check out your ward
patient's imaging though! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: You don't have to be based
in the UK to take part in #ukmeded chat or a doctor or
medical student, everyone is welcome join us in 10 mins
about 2 hours ago As a med student I love feeling useful- even just
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doing TTO's/ clerking, and when Drs explain their thinking
so I can see the logic #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham I have been
interviewed, prepared for op's and supervised post-op by
medical students. They were very conscientious #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago @amcunningham: #ukmeded so our
topic for tonight is getting the most out of learning on the
wards.. what is your top tip? Clerk & present
about 2 hours ago RT @docnicknick: #ukmeded Our
patients love seeing med students esp when they go and visit
them at home
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: So members of the
public... have you ever spoken to a medical student in
hospital?How did it feel? Thanks #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago as a JHO (F1) I was expected to know all
about all my 40 plus patients fluid balance blood results etc
@DrDLittle@fakethom#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle I would love this, but would
require the right mix of personalities to work I think
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago hey#ukmeded is trending in the UK... no
3:)
about 2 hours ago Because #ukmeded is also on now, i think
we should probably draw things to a close - will put thetranscript up on the blog. Thank you all!
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far
more relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Communications skills are vital, and
should be part of medical school from day 1 #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago@amcunningham If they're interested and
engaged, always a positive experience. If they're
uninterested, it really shows! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Our patients love seeing med
students esp when they go and visit them at home
about 2 hours ago@fakethom The only thing is, a month
before your finals...you don't want to be doing
bloods/cannulas all day! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @GeriatricDr: #ukmeded Don't be
afraid to ask questions on the round, even when we are busy,
an eager and curious student is invigorating. 1q/patient
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: #ukmeded so there
is some feedback from past patients... medical students they
like you:) #meded
about 2 hours ago RT @neda1400: #ukmeded clerking pts
during on-call, presenting to the SHO, following
management then presenting on the ward-round was great learning
tool
about 2 hours ago RT @docofagesSophie: #ukmeded spend
time chatting and really getting to know patients and then
revise pathology. Makes medicine more alive and relevant.
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded I always ask for a copy of a
student's syllabus/exam format to make sure if I give
teaching sessions, I'm being relevant. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 my best days are when I feel
useful and not a burden to whoever I'm attached to
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @neda1400: #ukmeded clerking pts
during on-call, presenting to the SHO, following
management then presenting on the ward-round was great learning
tool
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about 2 hours ago@nisciocco why not suggest it? ;)
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham Lot of the firms I've
been on seem to have them. F1 best port of call, get there
early to ask for one when printed #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@DrDLittle Yep Prof of resp
med was making that point to students - you're in a teaching
hospital lots of patients make most of it
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded Do all medical
schools make clear what students should experience on
attachments and what opportunties are available?
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded so there is some feedback from
past patients... medical students they like you:) #meded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded spend time chatting and really
getting to know patients and then revise pathology. Makes
medicine more alive and relevant.
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle I can't wait to lead a wardround as an F1 with my consultant writing in the notes.
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle yes! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@fakethom ah yes, was
always a flurry of activity, made it hard to keep up! Lack of
ownership perhaps? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded Do all medical
schools make clear what students should experience on
attachments and what opportunties are available?
about 2 hours ago RT @anniecoops: @amcunningham I
have been assessed by lovely student but also hate it when
they not introduced to me in clinic! #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle#ukmeded Yes as far as I can
tell! Our WRs are quite informal (+ coffee and biscuits) so
hopefully not much pressure on student!
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded clerking pts during on-call,
presenting to the SHO, following management then
presenting on the ward-round was great learning tool
about 2 hours ago RT @PatParslow: @amcunningham Only
remember one med stdnt in hosp, when I was 10. She was
nice, much more human than the other Drs. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are farmore relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: So members of the
public... have you ever spoken to a medical student in
hospital?How did it feel? Thanks #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago 1st years on wards-practice simply talking
to pt's in hospital environment. Helps to develop basic
comm skills and nice for pt's! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Every patient on a ward is a learning
goldmine - almost all have an ECG, CXR, bloods and that is
before you've even spoken to them #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Sammy_Lou of course! Do you see
many medical students where you work? How do you help
them? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@stewy6 agreed. Unfortunately lectures
etc often timetabled on mornings. ?med schools should
recognise this and free up mornings #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham I have been assessed by
lovely student but also hate it when they not introduced to
me in clinic! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham Only remember one med stdnt
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in hosp, when I was 10. She was nice, much more human
than the other Drs. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @Danielf90: #ukmeded things I
remember best from med school were times when I felt
useful.
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: So members of the
public... have you ever spoken to a medical student in
hospital?How did it feel? Thanks #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Putting up info in VLE we've
noticed variation in info and with feedback from students
developing template for attachment info
about 2 hours ago Hi, I'm Sam, 25, currently in London, I'm
a newly graduated Physician Assistant...I'm a bit late but
may I join? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago . Interesting point. Our ITU teaching ward
rounds take "too long" say our nurses @NHSwhistleblowr
@sarahmahmood3@amcunningham#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 that's an easy way to get a
glowing report and help with TTOs/discharge summaries
from me! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far
more relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @stewy6: @fakethom#ukmededcontinuity needed fr students 2 benefit from surg
wardrounds. attending a sporadic round =useless, need to see pt
journey
about 2 hours ago@fakethom#ukmeded continuity needed
fr students 2 benefit from surg wardrounds. attending a
sporadic round =useless, need to see pt journey
about 2 hours ago Students on surgical attachments should make
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sure they find good signs elsewhere if not on wards due to
post-op pts. Clinics etc #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @amcunningham: So members of the
public... have you ever spoken to a medical student in
hospital?How did it feel? Thanks #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Not sure I can help with ward
rounds but in GP land if you are enthusiastic and want to
engage with the patients you learn more
about 2 hours ago RT @anthphowe: I learnt early not to be
afraid to ask the 'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far
more relevant than you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DundeePsych do the students like it?
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago I learnt early not to be afraid to ask the
'naive' questions. Sometimes they are far more relevant than
you'd think. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago So members of the public... have you ever
spoken to a medical student in hospital?How did it feel?
Thanks #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham@jesswilding ask a
friendly F1 where to get one, then print your own #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle very true!! Post-surgery signs
are often gone. Good for learning complications and care
though. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DundeePsych@jonjhilton@fakethom
the further thru med school, the more a student will/should
have their own agenda. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago If feeling brave - consider 'upside down'
ward round where student/junior leads and consultant
writes in the notes. #ukmeded
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about 2 hours ago RT @Danielf90: #ukmeded I always try
and take my students on-call, and "think out loud" when
working thru a clinical problem. Ask their advice etc.
about 2 hours ago@nlafferty#ukmeded placements
typically nebulous + unclear here in AU, opportunities very
variable depending on student/doctor interest!
about 2 hours ago Converting pre-clinical knowledge base
into clinical acumen requires emphasis on relevance to ward
cases. Not just case report! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @kittcott: #ukmeded Get the students
to write the notes. A complex skill and keeps the brainfocused
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Don't be afraid to ask
questions on the round, even when we are busy, an eager
and curious student is invigorating. 1q/patient
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded things I remember best from
med school were times when I felt useful.
about 2 hours ago@fakethom as an F1 I didn't use to have a
clue what was going on during surgical ward round, never
mind engaging with students. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@nlafferty@amcunningham peninsula
for us, but I expect would use Plymouth it Exeter stations...
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded I always try and take mystudents on-call, and "think out loud" when working thru a
clinical problem. Ask their advice etc.
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded Do all medical
schools make clear what students should experience on
attachments and what opportunties are available?
about 2 hours ago@nlaffertymine does, although sometimes
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difficult to match theory and practice! But useful guidance is
given for sure #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle I do similar- or take student
to see pts prior to WR so they can take part in discussion
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago After basic clinical/comms skills have
been developed, send students to the 'difficult' pts rather
than cherry picking 'model' pts. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Get the students to write the
notes. A complex skill and keeps the brain focused
about 2 hours ago RT @nisciocco: #ukmeded studentsclerking new patients to present on ward round - really
useful learning experience too.
about 2 hours ago RT @nlafferty: #ukmeded Do all medical
schools make clear what students should experience on
attachments and what opportunties are available?
about 2 hours ago RT @Jane_Mooney: Teachers- try and
remember what you wanted when you were in the students'
shoes! #ukmeded :)
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton#ukmeded I start by asking
students which forms need doing and telling them not to
worry, I'll look for opportunities for that.
about 2 hours ago Surgical ward rounds more difficult to
learn from due to speed. Perhaps surgical placements betterto focus on 'on call' teams #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham Thank you! I shall try
my best at all of them :) Am very excited, yet nervous.
#ukmeded#workexperience
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Best educational tool is to ban
training by PowerPoint. Students love discussions and
anecdotes. Excites them with info in context
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about 2 hours ago@ambulancemandan@amcunningham
students at Dundee go out with paramedics on 5th year
acute care block#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @DundeePsych: #ukmeded ward
rounds r good opp for students to meet the rest of the mdt +
arrange 2 shadow team members during rest of placement
about 2 hours ago@JessWilding what is the best way for a
student to get 'ward round list'? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded students clerking new patients
to present on ward round - really useful learning experience
too.
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@Danielf90 admittedly so,
but learning how management plans formulate and unfold
through frequent review helpful #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded ambulance
students yes, not so often med students, but the option is
there...
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Do all medical schools make
clear what students should experience on attachments and
what opportunties are available?
about 2 hours ago@SarahMahmood3@amcunningham Do
you distinguish between business, teaching and hybrid ward
rounds? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago At beginning of round, send a student tosee an interesting patient and when you get to them on
round, they can present the patient #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@tcbtttc how do you know that people are
'playing' on smartphones? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle get that out the way and fill
out my annoying forms and I'll do everything I can to be
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helpful and learn from you #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Teachers- try and remember what you
wanted when you were in the students' shoes! #ukmeded :)
about 2 hours ago@ScarlettxB listen, smile, be interested,offer to make tea:) #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @Danielf90: @fakethom#ukmeded I
always keep a list of patients with good clinical signs to take
med students [and PACES students] to examine.
about 2 hours ago@nlaffertyclinical case presentations
during teaching sessions guide students to focusing
attention on wards + getting feedback#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded ward rounds r good opp for
students to meet the rest of the mdt + arrange 2 shadow
team members during rest of placement
about 2 hours ago RT @ScarlettxB: Got some Med work
experience coming up in a 2 weeks - Anyone have any
advice? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Just having a copy of the ward round list
with brief clnical details, jobs etc can make it so much easier
to follow and engage #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle "what does your med school
need to do to pass this placement?" Every placement I worry
about my WBPA quota #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Students- go with a goal e.g. practise an
examination or a clinical skill but also be prepared to be
flexible & go with the flow... #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@iamdoctord that is great
experience for them though. Best way to learn. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@fakethom#ukmeded I always keep a list
of patients with good clinical signs to take med students
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[and PACES students] to examine.
about 2 hours ago Perhaps everyone listening to everyone on
a ward round & not playing on their smart phones?
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Got some Med work experience coming
up in a 2 weeks - Anyone have any advice? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Doctors leading wardrounds... how do you
help students learn? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded it helps if you have thought a
little about what you want to get out of a placement. But if
you get enthusiastic GPs it helps
about 2 hours ago RT @SarahMahmood3:
@amcunningham: #ukmeded so how can students get the
most out of ward rounds? Ask lots of questions! The team needs to
be approachable.
about 2 hours ago On a ward round, can be good to identify
one or two good patients and leave student with them, then
get feedback later together #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@ambulancemandan Hi Dan, thanks for
joining us #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@ambulancemandan do you ever have
students with you? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded students notturning up - may be because they want more time studying
the theory/revising for exams etc.
about 2 hours ago @amcunningham: #ukmeded so how can
students get the most out of ward rounds? Ask lots of
questions! The team needs to be approachable.
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton@Danielf90@fakethom how
about "I'd like to know what u think is important for a
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student to know about ur specialty" #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@iamdoctord Fair points. I went to a
great, nurturing med school, so feel a real duty to do well by
students as I was done well by. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago RT @GeriatricDr: #ukmeded Always tell
students how good they are, have high expectations (tell
them) + they will excel.Pygmalion effect! http://t.co/JsqazAoR
about 2 hours ago@jonjhilton@Danielf90@fakethom what
would be a better question? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@nlaffertydepends when
exams are!! How to do job ideally should come be picked upwith the time put in by student #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham#ukmeded if the team
involves them as an extra member of the team - I find I
engage more and learn more as a result.
about 2 hours ago RT @GeriatricDr: #ukmeded Always tell
students how good they are, have high expectations (tell
them) + they will excel.Pygmalion effect! http://t.co/JsqazAoR
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@fakethom I know some of
our students have suggested that we should include tips on
what opportunities make most of on placements
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Always tell students how good
they are, have high expectations (tell them) + they will
excel.Pygmalion effect! http://t.co/JsqazAoR
about 2 hours ago@h_jones21 did the student ask why
given this task? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago .@nlaffertyFor GP trainees, some
experience of GP early on is valuable for getting most out of
subsequent hospital placements #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago Getting anything out of a ward round as a
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student depends entirely on the doctors on the ward round.
Engage with students! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Dan, paramedic, with
ambitions to medicine! lurking tonight as been on shift
earlier. Not sure if it's really my area tonight?
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom I'm on your
ward, you know the patients, show me someone interesting
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Can remember the glee of F1
job and finally feeling useful - certainly dispiriting as
student. Need to get them actively involved
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle@Danielf90@iamdoctord
only useful if done everyday. But clinics and teaching etc
(also important) interrupt. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@amcunningham poor teaching so seen
as a waste of time. Heard about 1 student being made to
open and stamp post on gp placement! #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded 1sy year students soend time
on wards now... how can they get the most out of this
experience?
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 hmmm... apathy,
disinterested teachers, lack of opportunity to engage/
contribute #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom it's such an openquestion - I want to know everything and rarely know where
to start #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@fakethom although, I find it
annoying when doc asks "so what do you want to know?" on
my first day#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded so how can students get the
most out of ward rounds?
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about 2 hours ago@nlafferty@fakethom Yes. But do final
year students want to learn A) Clinical Examination, B)
Knowledge, C) How to do Job etc. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@nlafferty@Danielf90 often, but also
need guidance as to identifying what we don't know. Which
comes with time together #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago I can only imagine they feel its unhelpful /
they're unwelcome in that dept? #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@purmj Hi Mark thanks for joining us
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@docnicknickhello- thanks for joining:)
#ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded I agree, sometimes it's not
what you say, but how you say it. Teachers should act in
responsible way as jrs emulate
about 2 hours ago@DrDLittle Sorry multitasking trying to
join #ukmeded and stuff. I am a GP in Hackney
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90@iamdoctord ward rounds
often not engaging for students? Often just stand at back
feeling in the way. #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago MT @Jande58: #ukmeded "...observe and
practice compassion..." unquestionably true!
about 2 hours ago@Danielf90 of course. Student needs toapply themselves and identify the gaps in their knowledge
etc #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded@Danielf90@fakethom I
think students also want to know what they need to learn, is
that right?
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded question being asked... why might
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students not turn up to placements? what to do about this?
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded my no. 1 tip is turn up to your
placements - simple but I see students not turning up (or at
least the gaps they leave) frequently
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Hi, I'm Mark, GP, Yorkshire
and the Humber
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded so our topic for tonight is
getting the most out of learning on the wards... what is your
top tip?
about 2 hours ago Consultant since 88, intensive care &anaesthesia but full of "the cold" so may just lurk or go off to
sleep #ukmeded
about 2 hours ago@iamdoctord#ukmeded what reasons
could there be for people not turning up?
about 2 hours ago@scottishphil83 Thanks, we will be
running #ukmeded chat each Thursday so hope you can join
another week :)
about 2 hours ago@fakethom#ukmeded As a Dr with
teaching responsibilities to students, it's important to know
what students want to gain from the attachment
about 2 hours ago#ukmeded Hi from Lismore, Australia.I
teach and coach doctors and nurses leadership.My learning
tip is observe and practice compassion
about 2 hours ago@scottishphil83 thanks for saying hello-