Ukedchat Archive 21 October 2010

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ianaddison 20:00#ukedchat tonight's topic 'How to get 'behind the times' schools

ahead...and FAST!'

ianaddison 20:00 Ok...you ready? here goes...#ukedchat

ukedchat 20:01

It's 8pm - Join @ianaddison and others NOW discussing "How to get

'behind the times' schools, ahead...and FAST! " Remember the

#ukedchat tag

MissSMitch 20:01 what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat

MissSMitch 20:02 @ianaddison thanks! #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:02 #ukedchat Need to find positive wizards to lead the changes

deerwood 20:02How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and how can we

demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat

dughall 20:02I'm #ukedchat ting for the next hour. "How to get 'behind the times'

schools, ahead...and FAST! "

TheHeadsOffice 20:02#ukedchat THe key is to show them what 'good' looks like using their

staff & pupils

ianaddison 20:02RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the times? #ukedchat


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TheHeadsOffice 20:03#ukedchat Behing the times does not only mean techy believe me!

When you have dinosaurs on the staff you sch is BTT!

jimbo9848 20:04#ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up to speed. It could

be called BACTA or something similar.

chrismayoh 20:04 Already 4 mins behind. No chance of catching up now! #ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:04

visited a school this week where the head had worked there since she

was TA & only place she'd ever worked, didn't seem good to me

#ukedchat

ianaddison 20:04RT @squiggle7: even if you show them many are still very reluctant

to change the way they've always done things #ukedchat

didactylos 20:04

#ukedchat the Demolition Govt may well feel the 'behind the times

schools' are in fact not a problem. Gove doesn't like progressive ideas

JfB57 20:04#ukedchat I suspect if they are BTT their results are not going to be at

the top@deerwood

dughall 20:04 @ianaddison So, does techy = good? #ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:04#ukedchat What we really need to know is why are they less techy -

money staff infrastructure?

JfB57 20:05@squiggle7 #ukedchat Hence the need for positive wizards plus the

children. Once they have the idea they can lead reluctant staff!

didactylos 20:05#ukedchat behind the times to me is not paying any attention to all

the learning theory we have got that we did not have 20 years ago

missbrownsword 20:05@Laura_987 no she was described by someone I know who works

there as 'not very forward thinking' #ukedchat

deerwood 20:05 @didactylos many schools may also feel the same way #ukedchat canwe convince them otherwise?

cleverfiend 20:05

There is a balance to be struck between not moving with the times

and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes along!

#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:05are schools 'behind the times'? in many ways schools are leading the

times in tolerance and cultural awareness #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:06@JfB57 but many schools don't have the positive wizards to lead.

#ukedchat

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dughall 20:06 @janwebb21 You got it Jan :-) #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:06Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select an appropriate set

of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat

deerwood 20:06@didactylos but Roger, there are people who believe that many of

our learning theories are incorrect #ukedchat

innerquest 20:06perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god called

technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:06if it's merely tech, then the answer is never to be static. we need tech

that upgrades with us, #ukedchat

ICanTeach_uk 20:06

Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the times -

however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the times

dughall 20:06 @jimbo9848 BACTA LOL :-) #ukedchat

chrisrat 20:06RT @ianaddison: RT @MissSMitch: what do we mean by behind the

times? #ukedchat


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chrismayoh 20:07

RT @cleverfiend: There is a balance to be struck between not moving

with the times and jumping feet first into every initiative that comes

along! #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:07



along! #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:07Lol > > RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring

them up to speed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.

MissSMitch 20:07@innerquest I agree tech should enhance good practice not replace it

#ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:07#ukedchat I think to become more techy, a staff need inspired

leadership. Show them the value of tech and get them onboard.

john_at_muuua 20:07

just having tech does not keep us ahead. having partners that keep us

ahead is what matters #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:07Some staff so used to seeing things go full circle, initiative after

initiative, they think 'going techy' is just the same #ukedchat

didactylos 20:07#ukedchat you can be very techy and still behind the times, depends

how you measure things

duckinwales 20:08

RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &

round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three

times - it's said.


RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god

called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat >Or

pause

deerwood 20:08 @squiggle7 @JfB57 I don't charge a lot! #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:08@ICanTeach_uk possiblly. but how long before twitter is last year's

myspace? #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:08 RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat start an organisation to bring them up tospeed. It could be called BACTA or something similar.

ianaddison 20:08RT @innerquest: perhaps we worship too much at the feet of the god

called technology, maybe WE should take a step back? #ukedchat

deerwood 20:08 @didactylos fair point #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:08

RT @ICanTeach_uk: Lanyone using #ukedchat is clearly ahead of the

times -however those 'not' on twitter are not necessarily behind the

times

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dughall 20:08

RT @ICanTeach_uk: Let's face it anyone using #ukedchat is clearly

ahead of the times - however those 'not' on twitter are not

necessarily behind the times

SusanElkinJourn 20:08@cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round & round though. If you

teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right three times - it's said.

duckinwales 20:08@squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive environment to start with.

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:08 @dughall didn't think it sounded like you!!! #ukedchat

didactylos 20:08@deerwood #ukedchat don't mind if there's a debate about it, its

where people are still in a time warp that the problem lies

chrisrat 20:08

RT @TeachersTV Host Krishnsn is asking the panelists what changes

will mean for teachers #TTVdebate That's where things like teachmeets

come in

didactylos 20:09RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select

an appt set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:09@cleverfiend absolutely - measured approach where one/two try

something out then feed on is important #ukedchat

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AdiNotNow 20:10 @chrismayoh #ukedchat hear hear!

squiggle7 20:10@JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started using twitter

#ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:10indeed RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you

teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching.

SusanElkinJourn 20:10#ukedchat More than tech I worry abut teacher attitude - them and

us, put downs etc. That's what we need to change.

TheHeadsOffice 20:10RT @ianaddison: outstanding is all about sats levels, we got great

results, we're outstanding #ukedchat >Not in my experience

ianaddison 20:10

RT @SusanElkinJourn: @cleverfiend #ukedchat It all goes round &

round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change you'll be right threetimes

john_at_muuua 20:10@TheHeadsOffice @innerquest agree. it's the people that keep us

ahead, no the medium #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:10@dughall depends on inspector. at my old school he said i'd love to

give you good/outstanding, but can't cos of results #ukedchat

xovation 20:10



along! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:10

RT @chrismayoh: Surely being 'with the times' is to be able to select

an appropriate set of tools to do the job at hand. Tech or no tech

#ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:11RT @ianaddison: @TeachersTV you want to know what teachers

think? join #ukedchat every thursday at 8pm. #ttvdebate

DrAshCasey 20:11

#ukedchat does innovation breed contempt? We have to convince

teachers not schools to be innovative otherwise it can be a flash in

the pan

janwebb21 20:11 @SkoorBttaM can see some inititatives that have been tweaked sincetheir original intro (and falling by the wayside) #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:11 keeping ahead is not as important as leading the way. #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:11RT @duckinwales: @squiggle7 @JfB57 you need a condusive

environment to start with. #ukedchat >Appointing right HT vital

dughall 20:11@ianaddison Did he really mean 'results' though? Or maybe CVA or

progress? Anyway, that's another topic... #ukedchat

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janwebb21 20:11

@SkoorBttaM I think what sometimes gets forgotten is that

sometimes full circle is more of a spiral /BUILDING on previous

success #ukedchat

cleverfiend 20:11

@SusanElkinJourn I've started to notice the cycle after 16 years in

education :) I would hope each cycle gets refined and improved

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:11#ukedchat I have to constantly change how i do things in my job andstand up and show how I do it. Some eaehcers have not moved in a

decade.

AdiNotNow 20:12#ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG leadership with

vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.

deerwood 20:12

RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help

you teach better. Not a teaching method or replacement for

teaching. < No

DrAshCasey 20:12

RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading

the way. #ukedchat

squiggle7 20:12 @TheHeadsOffice HT makes so much difference I agree! #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:12@SkoorBttaM perhaps it's the fine tuning when we go full circle that

needs more attention than doing what we did 1st time #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:12@squiggle7 @JfB57 #ukedchat - me too, have just put #tmhhs on my

annual CPD log - let's see if it raises any eyebrows/questions!

missbrownsword 20:12outstanding SEN schools don't fit this RT @ianaddison: outstanding all

about sats levels, we got great results, we're outstanding #ukedchat

dughall 20:12RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech is a tool to help you teach

better. Not a teaching method or replacement for teaching.


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john_at_muuua 20:13my best teaching experience was in a Sri Lankan village. no electricity,

but completely socially aware and 'ahead of the times' #ukedchat

deerwood 20:13RT @deerwood: RT @dughall: RT @SusanElkinJourn: #ukedchat Tech

is a tool for learning

didactylos 20:13#ukedchat the 'mantra' we don't have time is a killer - its similar to I

don't have time to tidy my room - the payoff is easier if tidy

ianaddison 20:13@didactylos very good point, but why are some teachers not moving

with the times? are they too busy to re-learn? #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:14

RT @TheHeadsOffice: How many here were fired up by this forum?

Were you all born IT obsessed?I suspect not so how did you get

here?#ukedchat


RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading

the way. #ukedchat >Absolutely!

janwebb21 20:14

RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of

teachmeets until I started using twitter #ukedchat >See my next

couple of tweets!

carolrainbow 20:14

@john_at_muuua @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest #ukedchat

Stepping back from the tech will not necessarily engage pupils who

use it all the time

SusanElkinJourn 20:14#ukedchat Is the Innovation Unit still going at DFS or has it fallen to

the axe?

greyengine 20:14RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need STRONG

leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.

janwebb21 20:14@ianaddison @didactylos managing the change is SO important but

some changes challenge pedagogies #ukedchat

cleverfiend 20:14

@missbrownsword We are an outstanding SEN school - and still

needed to get outstanding results - not sats but FFT/ CVA etc

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:14 @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model we havepersisted with and they have come to expect

TheHeadsOffice 20:14RT @squiggle7: @JfB57 I didn't hear of teachmeets until I started

using twitter #ukedchat >See my next couple of tweets!

janwebb21 20:15

RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous

personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach

#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:15@carolrainbow @TheHeadsOffice @innerquest. Not 'stepping back',

but giving context and depth that does not need tech #ukedchat

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Laura_987 20:15@missbrownsword Ah right. I can imagine she's quite stuck in her

ways. #ukedchat

didactylos 20:15#ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of idealism and

interest and have the system bash it out of them?

Catriona_O 20:15@DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of improvement andit breeds contempt. WE need to talk to each other - simples!

#ukedchat

deerwood 20:15@didactylos: @ianaddison #ukedchat changing the CPD model could

be key to bringing schools forward #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:15RT @didactylos: @ianaddison#ukedchat part is the crappy CPD model

we have persisted with and they have come to expect

colport 20:15

@ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous personal learning

journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:16RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of

idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?

chrismayoh 20:16Isn't accountability a big part of this debate? Why's it so difficult to

get rid of staff who deliberately combat positive change? #ukedchat

deerwood 20:16@stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison is that in terms of using ICT or

provision (or both)? #ukedchat

lisacov19 20:16#Ukedchat the way to move forward is to utilise all ideas that are

available & what better way to share ideas than through multimedia?

didactylos 20:16@janwebb21#ukedchat and sometimes challenge the status quo at a

very deep level

janwebb21 20:16 @ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat by playing catchup!

dughall 20:16

Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as @mister_jim

reminded us @ #tmx without change, there would be no butterflies.#ukedchat

cleverfiend 20:16

RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey isolation is the enemy of

improvement and it breeds contempt. WE need to talk to

each other - simples! #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:16RT @missbrownsword: outstanding SEN schools & nurseries don't fit

with tests ideology @ianaddison: #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:16#ukedchat Were you all born IT obsessed? I suspect not so how did

you get here? @TheHeadsOffice


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ianaddison 20:16

RT @colport: @ianaddison I see that teaching is a continuous

personal learning journey for me - I owe it to the pupils I teach

#ukedchat

ianaddison 20:16totally agree with @didactylos about CPD, how much CPD have you

had that has inspired you? (not inc teachmeets) #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:17Yup > >RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the times schools need

STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction with the satus quo.

dughall 20:17@stevebob79 Sadly so do I. Maybe OFSTED might not always be the

best judges of what is outstanding #personalopinion #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:17@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice sadly i probably was born a tech

head, but chose the arts because the tech was easy.#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:17

with CPD, especially tech, needs to be drip fed and followed up. So

much CPD not passed on/given support to implement #ukedchat

didactylos 20:17#ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy with doctors and

would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?

DrAshCasey 20:17@Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers within schools not

as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers maintain change

Catriona_O 20:18@DrAshCasey couldn't agree more. Therein the power to effect

meanigful change lies.....#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:18

@didactylos it's very unsettling at so many lessons when we are

challenged to change the WAY we teach - values/emotions difficult

#ukedchat

ianaddison 20:18RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy

with doctors and would we tolerate them not keeping up to date?

DrAshCasey 20:18@deerwood @stevebob79 @dughall @ianaddison I don't believe

that ICT means innovation but innovation can use ICT #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:18

RT @dughall: Moving is uncomfortable. As is change. But, as

@mister_jim says without change, there would be no butterflies.#ukedchat

duckinwales 20:18RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of

idealism and interest and have the system bash it out of them?

AdiNotNow 20:18

#ukedchat An alternative to getting these schools on track. Make

them use them for their CPD and all training so they see what

potential...

colport 20:19@didactylos Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why teaching is not

seen as professional. We should continue our learning #ukedchat

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jessamacookie 20:19@ianaddison feels like that and I haven't even been lucky enough to

get a FT job! #ukedchat (sorry down as lost out at another interview)

dughall 20:19RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy


SusanElkinJourn 20:19@cleverfiend Yes - similar but not identical cycles of change, with

continuous improvement. #ukedchat

Nevagonnabslim 20:19#ukedchat who believes in latest fad of large open learning spaces

with two or three lessons goin on

lisacov19 20:19#Ukedchat keeping up to date is about being reflective of where we

are & what we are doing, looking at where http://tl.gd/6jc34l

squiggle7 20:19

@TheHeadsOffice I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda

happened! #ukedchat

dughall 20:19Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change & movement is

nigh on impossible #ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:19#ukedchat ...that technology would have for the children. They may

even keep up with them!!!

john_at_muuua 20:19

RT @DrAshCasey: @Catriona_O but we need to do that as teachers

within schools not as schools with teachers. #ukedchat teachers

maintain change

NickiA10 20:19@ianaddison Is it just the system that bashes it out of people or the

endless admin? #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:19It is often untrue true that people don't have time to do things. It's

that they have chosen not to prioritise them #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:19RT @DrAshCasey: I don't believe that ICT means innovation but

innovation can use ICT #ukedchat


RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teahcers come into the job full of

idealism & interest &have the system bash it out of them? >Some notall

SkoorBttaM 20:19It all goes round & round though. If you teach 40 yrs & don't change

you'll be right three times- it's said RT @AdiNotNow: #ukedchat behind the

times schools need STRONG leadership with vision. Not a satisfaction

with the satus quo.

didactylos 20:19@duckinwales #ukedchat often by a chance 'seeing' of a process or

idea and 'pinching it' to adopt to my own work

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mr_chadwick 20:19

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat do most teachers come into the job full of

idealism and have the system bash it out of them? < not the good

ones.

ianaddison 20:20

RT @chrismayoh: It is often untrue true that people don't have time

to do things.It's that they have chosen not to prioritise them

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:20#ukedchat I've loads of creative energy and enthusiasm after 35 years

- but don't mark work, don't write reports, don't do the school 'clag'

john_at_muuua 20:20we really are in danger of confusing the medium and the message

#ukedchat

Arakwai 20:20

@DrAshCasey @catriona_o To be effective surely individuals need

the support of a whole school culture promoting innovation ?

#ukedchat

innerquest 20:20

Is it teacher recruitment or the consultants whr we need to root out

the "unbelievers" in technology 4 learning? ive met a few! #ukedchat

stevebob79 20:20@DrAshCasey I agree. But school I'm thinking had little ict therefore

not delivering curriculum so should not be 'outstanding' #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:20

@AdiNotNow what to say to a group of teachers who want to

develop use of ict and need to see the potential? big pic or baby

steps? #ukedchat

ICanTeach_uk 20:20

#ukedchat unconsciously incompetent to consciously incompetent to

consciously competent to unconsciously competent - this is about

CPD

ianaddison 20:20Ok, so what do we do about it? Let's start with our school. How can

we get the teachers to be more 'up with it'? #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:20

@didactylos but we make CPD look like staying up to date &

encourage tradition. Need to change CPD 2 help those behind to

catch up #ukedchat

JfB57 20:20

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat have blogged about this - drew analogy


>Excellent

duckinwales 20:20 Staff come to me for CPD when a) they see what I do and want to usethe same b) they understand it will save them time. #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:21RT @squiggle7: I have no idea how I got into tech, just kinda

happened! #ukedchat >I bet there was a positive wizard somewhere!

janwebb21 20:21@JfB57 different approaches - carrot/stick, make them feel bad or

encouragement/support/modelling #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:21RT @john_at_muuua: keeping ahead is not as important as leading

the way. #ukedchat

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AdiNotNow 20:21 @ianaddison #ukedchat non pupil day online?

didactylos 20:21 #ukedchat wonder if there's some correlation?

colport 20:21It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, + whole school, are

'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets of change? #ukedchat

MissSMitch 20:22RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised

learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'

stevebob79 20:22#ukedchat ...but also needs direction from the top and 'stick' used

along with the 'carrot'

innerquest 20:22

You can either put policies in place to stop people not doing it, or cpd

people to be better, both would be needed #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:22 #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example.

dughall 20:22

@ianaddison Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show

them impact on learners, that often works. (*you* know that ;-))

#ukedchat

caroljallen 20:22

@didactylos #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get to

grips with technology - I top trump them on age and say get on with

it!

didactylos 20:22@drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised learning CPD as

opposed to whole school 'soakings'

john_at_muuua 20:22we educate. we are not tech salespersons. knowledge has no

operating system. #ukedchat

stevebob79 20:22#ukedchat need to start by those leading demonstrating outcomes/

advantages and inspiring people to join the ride

SusanElkinJourn 20:23 @john_at_muuua Education is learning to think for yourself. Trainingis doing what others tell you. #ukedchat

JfB57 20:23@janwebb21 You have the big picture & break it into baby steps!

#ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:23@ianaddison I have got other teachers at school doing things

differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:23@colport I think if the head is behind the times it is easy for the staff

not to bother! (Especially a school with older staff ;-) #ukedchat

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john_at_muuua 20:23@didactylos @drashcasey totally agree. CPD should be much more

differentiated#ukedchat

Paddymcgrath 20:23#ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind the times in how we

treat young people

mdpkeenan 20:23#ukedchat all this self congratulatory back slapping navel gazing look

how good we are at ict - pointless because no "dinosaurs" watching

ianaddison 20:23RT @caroljallen: #ukedchat I get told that teachers are too old to get

to grips with technology -I trump them on age and say get on with it!

didactylos 20:23@colport #ukedchat in 2ndry pockets of change are no use re the

whole curriculum experience for the learner

SusanElkinJourn 20:23

RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised

learning CPD as opposed to whole school 'soakings'

Catriona_O 20:23

@DrAshCasey not sure about that. Working to a deficit model? Much

prefer the developmental one we use - 4stage

http://bit.ly/bFvMx5#ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:23@ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of PM to get them started

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:23@TheHeadsOffice not at school, I think I picked it up along the way

and enjoyed using it. #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:24@skoorBttaM certainly true about current situation #ukedchat -

babies being thrown out with bathwater

dughall 20:24RT @TheHeadsOffice: @ianaddison If necessary it has to be part of

PM to get them started #ukedchat


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caroljallen 20:24

@didactylos #ukedchat fully agree, even topics that are CPD for all

should not be delivered en masse! Personalise and respect learning

need

drtimony 20:24RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.

knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:24RT @missbrownsword: @ianaddison I got other teachers at schooldoing things differently because'can we do what Miss B's class do?'

#ukedchat

squiggle7 20:24RT @didactylos: @drashcasey #ukedchat I'd argue for a personalised

learning CPD ... < def should be differentiated #ukedchat

didactylos 20:24@caroljallen#ukedchat agree fully , and respectfully point out I can

top trump you!

kishtiaq 20:24

RT @john_at_muuua: we educate. we are not tech salespersons.

knowledge has no operating system. #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:24RT @Paddymcgrath: #ukedchat are we talking about tech or behind

the times in how we treat young people

Catriona_O 20:25

@DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers? pupil lead

learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move everyone

on?#ukedchat

Paddymcgrath 20:25RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to

think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:25@ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and not have to look at

their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat

deerwood 20:25@didactylos hmm, personalised learning CPD ... do you mind if I use

that phrase? #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:25 @colport Your pockets my positive wizards! #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:25 @mdpkeenan but we're trying to discuss ways to help the 'dinosaurs',what do you suggest? #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:25RT @SusanElkinJourn: @john_at_muuua Education is learning to

think for yourself. Training is doing what others tell you. #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:25 @SusanElkinJourn thank you! well said! :-) #ukedchat

stevebob79 20:25RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show

them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat

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janwebb21 20:26RT @dughall: @mdpkeenan Should we show #ukedchat to the

dinosaurs then? And. Explain. It. Very. Slowly?

deerwood 20:26@didactylos @caroljallen don't you two start arguing, you're both

inspirational #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:26RT @duckinwales: #ukedchat @ianaddison lead by example >There

are enough great things here to have those in abundance!

janwebb21 20:26@JfB57 I agree but some find the whole big picture extremely

scary!!! #ukedchat

dughall 20:26

RT @missbrownsword:I have got other teachers at school doing

things differently because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?'

#ukedchat

TeacherToolkit 20:26

Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If not, shame on you!

#ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:26

@stevebob79 Are we defining innovation and good practice by ICT? I

think as teachers we can look beyond that...horses for courses

#ukedchat

sciencelabman 20:26@missbrownsword the kids i teach are my best ambassadors, they

ask other teachers if we can.... do what mr Pratts class do.#ukedchat

andyjb 20:26@dughall #ukedchat agreed without smt buy widespread

organisational change doesnt happen

duckinwales 20:26RT @mr_chadwick @ianaddison Have to be good example/role

model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat


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didactylos 20:27@theheadsoffice #ukedchat certainly they can benefit from tech to

work smarter, though some like 'gate duty' etc is still a pain for staff

andyjb 20:27teaching and learning individual practise maybe different #ukedchat

but have to be convinced on within school transfer

DrAshCasey 20:27@Arakwai @catriona_o I don't think you need it to be effective in

your classroom but top down CPD is not effective... #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:27@chrismayoh If what you're doing isn't recognised as 'positive'

change then should it be as easy to get rid of you? #ukedchat

ZoeRoss19 20:27little & often helps- easy & effective tech-tip at end of newsletter,

persuading SMT to give over bit of INSET for sharing etc #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:27

RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and

not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat

SusanElkinJourn 20:27

RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need to give them time to breath.

Teachers who rush don't have time to look around at see the

alternatives. #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:27

RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey maybe it's not all up to the teachers?

pupil lead learning - like http://bit.ly/anRLbk might help move

everyone on?#ukedchat

lisacov19 20:27

RT @dughall Teachers generally buy into learning. If you can show

them impact on learners, that often works. #ukedchat our starting

point

kishtiaq 20:27#ukedchat educators have a wide variety of tools abd tech is one

such tool. The best teachers use basic tools and this may not be tech

caroljallen 20:27

@ianaddison #ukedchat start by respecting their fear, then show

them the way forward in achieveable steps rather than showing an

end point

chrismayoh 20:28 @skoorBttaM Good point. Even consensus is only opinion #ukedchat

colport 20:28 @didactylos Fair comment. I was coming from the perspective of aprimary school #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:28RT @carolrainbow: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.

#ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity

stevebob79 20:28@DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the appropriate tool for the

job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:28RT @DrAshCasey: @ianaddison we need teachers to look ahead and

not have to look at their feet to make sure they don't trip #ukedchat

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ICanTeach_uk 20:28

@john_at_muuua I think Twitter is sustainable but will be

superseded - bound to be something out there for tomorrows

teachers #ukedchat

Olivia_Darlin 20:28

RT @deerwood: How can a school tell if it's 'behind the times' and

how can we demonstrate that to them? #ukedchat

http://ow.ly/19zipv

kishtiaq 20:29 #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech, tech, tech!

mr_chadwick 20:29Keep forgetting hashtag!! Told you I was 'behind the times'

#ukedchat

sellyeve 20:29RT @SkoorBttaM: RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without

SMT buy-in, change & movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat

scholaforis 20:29

@Catriona_O joining late: soz. Agree and think that lot nontech

teachers afraid to show ignorance in front of tech savvie kids

innerquest 20:29Primary & EY - Do U need technology 2 B a successful teacher? Does

a child need techology 2 learn? It's fun, but is it neccessary #ukedchat

colport 20:29

@carolrainbow Agree, but I go back to the motivation of people

teaching in the first place - the pupils. Or at least it should be

#ukedchat

sellyeve 20:29@TheHeadsOffice age is just a number - it's perspective that counts

#ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:29@didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD doesn't make

them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:29RT @dughall: Leadership is *essential* without SMT buy-in, change &

movement is nigh on impossible #ukedchat

AdiNotNow 20:29

@ianaddison #ukedchat We have involved reluctsant teachers from

the start with our MLE. still in process of setting up but they're

enthused

Catriona_O 20:29 @DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroom it's not effective!#ukedchat

DeputyMitchell 20:29Sorry to cry off #ukedchat this evening, just back in from a LONG day!

Will catch up later when I'm lying wide awake in bed! ;-)

mr_chadwick 20:29

Agree with @missbrownsword Children seeing another class and

wanting to be involved. Have to be horrid teacher not to act then.

#ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:29

RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the

appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing

when not to use it #ukedchat

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ianaddison 20:29@TeacherToolkit we have our own discussion going on here at

#ukedchat shame on #ttvdebate for not checking their diary!

predacomDom 20:30@lisacov19 How would the use of ICT for T&L ever get proven if to

use it it always has to be proven? #Ukedchat

janwebb21 20:30@caroljallen it's a really fine balance between inspiration and

trepidation #ukedchat

TeacherToolkit 20:30@ianaddison then we should show how talented we all are by

tweeting #ukedchat & #TTVDebate in all our chats = #EduBate

teachersTV 20:30RT @TeacherToolkit: Are you all taking part in the #TTVDebate? If

not, shame on you! #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:30

@ICanTeach_uk i'm not convinced. it's good for us techy aware

people. but put it in front of 'the others' and they go blank.#ukedchat


@dughall Wh sch obj for PM means everyone 'suffers' & that helps

those who are reluctant. Shared misery but then lights come on

#ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:30

RT @TheHeadsOffice: @colport Easy for sch to play the age card.

#ukedchat Unfair & lost opportunity - Very unfair on pupils and

unnecessary

didactylos 20:30@colport #ukedchat think its much more effective in a Primary - also

its a smaller org so will have impact - not the silo mentality of 2ndry

jimbo9848 20:30#ukedchat is there a culture in some schools which is deliberately

negative to technology?

ZoeRoss19 20:30One HoD I know insisted his dept complete tasks on computer/use

tech-they hated it & it's not my style at all, but they did it! #ukedchat

dughall 20:30RT @stevebob79: It's about the appropriate tool for the job. One of

greatest ICT skills is knowing when not to use it #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:30 I've started slowly slowly catchy monkey at my school, lead byexample, provide helpsheets too http://bit.ly/cQCy16 #ukedchat

predacomDom 20:31@lisacov19 Experimentation leads to success, but also failure. But

having the confidence to fail always leads to success. #Ukedchat

ianaddison 20:31@TeacherToolkit if i was lurking, i'd try and join in with #ukedchat

and #ttvdebate but i'm moderating one of them!

caroljallen 20:31

@ZoeRoss19 #ukedchat when I started teaching my HOD signed me

up for typing lessons insisting his dept would not produce

handwritten stuff!

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DrAshCasey 20:31@Catriona_O the meaningful use of student voice rather than the

current rhetoric ... like it ... #ukedchat

didactylos 20:31#ukedchat we also live in a culture where experimentation is not in

vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe re targets and Ofsted

john_at_muuua 20:31@jimbo9848 in many. because schools and management move

slowly and tech doesn't. #ukedchat

dughall 20:31RT @DrAshCasey: @didactylos yes....hosing everyone down with CPD

doesn't make them change it just makes them annoyed #ukedchat

SusanElkinJourn 20:31RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech,

tech, tech!


@DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that the HT prepared the

path & that it is safe #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:31@colport Absolutely - the pupils have the right to good quality tech

tools and teaching #ukedchat

colport 20:31RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy, pedagogy not tech,

tech, tech! Don't tell them! As long as the lead

has it

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john_at_muuua 20:32

RT @colport: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,

pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat is there a culture in

some schools which is deliberately negative to technology?

ianaddison 20:33

RT @didactylos: #ukedchat we also live in a culture where

experimentation is not in vogue - keeping in the shoal is safe re

targets/Ofsted

TheHeadsOffice 20:33@ianaddison Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat & the sort

of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!

dughall 20:33@jimbo9848 I think schools with a whole school anti tech culture are

rare. But again, I say SMT/leaders are influential here. #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:33 RT @Catriona_O: @DrAshCasey if it's not effective in the classroomit's not effective! #ukedchat

SkoorBttaM 20:33

RT: I have got other teachers at school doing things differently

because 'can we do what Miss B's class do?' >>>>Pester power!!

#ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:33

RT @stevebob79: @DrAshCasey absoulutely not. It's about the

appropriate tool for the job. One of greatest ICT skills is knowing

when not to use it #ukedchat

caroljallen 20:33@janwebb21 #ukedchat Absolutely - and that is why one size fits all

CPD excites some; supports others; bores some and frightens others!

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ianaddison 20:33@TeachersTV not meant negatively, but #ukedchat is growing and

growing, I'm sure debates on different nights would help in future

didactylos 20:33 @drashcasey #ukedchat and plays to the cynical 'back row'

colport 20:33@SusanElkinJourn I know what you mean. I know younger teacherswho love the QCA schemes for teaching - now that's behind the times

#ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:33I don't think it's about tech tho, things like outdoor learning, forest

schools etc are v forward thinking & totally non-tech #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:34

RT @predacomDom: Experimentation leads to success, but also

failure. But having the confidence to fail always leads to success.

#Ukedchat


I still think we're missing an opportunity by not letting the ch lead

more. Just look at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:34@caroljallen we personalise learning for students - need to do the

same for staff because they aren't all one size #ukedchat

dughall 20:34


experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe

re targets and Ofsted

DeputyHeadDunn 20:34 Hi all, late tonight!

duckinwales 20:34#ukedchat @missbrownsword very true - that reminds me - where is

@ForesterJo? lost in the woods?

didactylos 20:34@missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a quill pen, is just

a tool for learning, totally agree with you

CHAR0ULA 20:34I think people have to be commited to professional development

otherwise they get stuck no matter where they are #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:35 @DeputyHeadDunn irony...it's about being behind the times tonight!#ukedchat

deerwood 20:35@dughall @jimbo9848 yes I both pity and admire ICT coords working

in a school were HT or SMT are opposed to tech #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:35RT @TheHeadsOffice: Folk I've talked to about twitter #ukedchat &

the sort of things I get up to here are amazed & want to know more!

sellyeve 20:35@dughall isn't that's a choice that you make though...or not?

#ukedchat

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dughall 20:35

RT @missbrownsword: I don't think it's about tech tho, things like

outdoor learning, forest schools etc are v forward thinking & totally

non-tech #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:35How many of you who have set up class blogs haven't had other staff

asking for one too! #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:35RT @didactylos: @missbrownsword #ukedchat technology - even if a

quill pen, is just a tool for learning, totally agree with you

jessamacookie 20:35

@innerquest 80% of time no ict to help in supply work but survive

fine. Its about using tools effectively not jus cos theyre there

#ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:35

@TheHeadsOffice not always. My HT asked me the purpose of PhD

aimed at improving my pupils learning experiences...it helps though

#ukedchat

caroljallen 20:35

@deerwood #ukedchat exactly! ...and perceptive, effective support

at that!

SusanElkinJourn 20:35#ukedchat Are some colleagues so resistant to change & reflective

practice that they really are in the wrong job & should be 'let go'?

ZoeRoss19 20:35@caroljallen Well, ur on here now,so that's pretty fantastic progress!

If time / lessons given, then have less of an issue with it #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:36

@TheHeadsOffice i was asked today if we can have a blog for the

school choir! I don't even know what they'd do with it! cool tho

#ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:36@didactylos I thought they were making out in the back row...?

#ukedchat

janwebb21 20:36@ebd35 I thought I'd better catch up with the new stuff when I did

return to teaching!!! #ukedchat

missbrownsword 20:36

@TheHeadsOffice that's why thematic planning with the children is

so effective in some primaries, they can lead & take control

#ukedchat

dughall 20:36

RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -

need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size#ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:36 @ianaddison Oh irony indeed! lol #ukedchat

stevebob79 20:36

@missbrownsword agreed. E.g. celebrated reading project on TV

recently with @garethmalone. Lots of innovation, no tech in sight...

#ukedchat

didactylos 20:36RT @theheadsoffice: think we're missing an opp by not letting the ch

ld more. Just lk at the impact all ur class blogs are having #ukedchat

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nellmog 20:37

RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen we personalise learning for students -

need to do the same for staff because they aren't all one size

#ukedchat

lisacov19 20:37@predacomDom #Ukedchat lagree with leadership points but also

need to be able to bite the bullet & lead by example

TheHeadsOffice 20:37RT @colport: RT @kishtiaq: #ukedchat pedagogy, pedagogy,

pedagogy not tech, tech, tech! I remember Piaget!

dughall 20:38@ebd35 You may be a loner. That is my point. The *school* isn't

moving, you are. #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:38

@DeputyHeadDunn i think we're going to make a 'clubs' blog,

otherwise, every club will have one. not sure if good or bad thing?

#ukedchat

ebd35 20:38

RT @colport: It has to be a pretty dire place where all the staff, +

whole school, are 'behind the times'! Surely there are pockets ofchange? #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:38 @ianaddison perhaps they'd like podcasting their work!!! #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:38RT @janwebb21: @caroljallen #ukedchat teaching is teaching

whatever the age group! learning has to be personal to be effective!

DrAshCasey 20:38 @didactylos well they're certainly not listening anymore. #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:38@sellyeve Yes with not to but you may have to have a cunning plan

to get them there if the incentive isn't there naturally! #ukedchat

dughall 20:38

@sellyeve Yes, but not always an easy choice to make to leave the

shoal and face wrath of Ofsted or death by falling standards...

#ukedchat

Grevster73 20:39#ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, but

hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.

TheBadgerBloke 20:39 #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical approaches, buthate it when the tail starts to wag the dog.

janwebb21 20:39

@TheHeadsOffice @colport @kishtiag not to mention Vygotsky and

zones of proximal development!!!! prob even more appropriate for

#ukedchat

mr_chadwick 20:39RT @colport: I am trying to trial #classblogs for my class to get others

to do it, but hear the 'time' excuse #ukedchat < very familiar!!

lisacov19 20:39


experimentation is not in vogue - where keeping in the shoal is safe

re targets and Ofsted

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geraldhaigh1 20:39Somehow I think technology has evolved to where it's more than a

tool. A working environment? A virtual learning space? #ukedchat

esoldaveglasgow 20:39

#ukedchat the current president of GTCS promised to make the word

Pedagogy common currency in Scottish education. It hasn't happened

yet.

sellyeve 20:39@dughall true but I think ofsted do a lot of following too - that's how

they end up trying to impose a one size fits all solution #ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:39@dughall tbh though, falling standards can't be accepted whatever

the reason

didactylos 20:39#ukedchat I don't say everyone must use Twitter, but its a superb

way of getting heads up on areas you could develop your own CPD

DrAshCasey 20:39

Concerned that we are pulling the 'behind schools' up on fibre optics

and not good practice #ukedchat

duckinwales 20:39

@ianaddison @TheHeadsOffice don't forget to put up some

#ukedchat posters!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2698233/ukedchat%20flyer.pdf

deerwood 20:39So, if we 'personalise' CPD for staff, can that help bring schools

forward? #ukedchat

chrismayoh 20:39 @Brendano Absolutely! #ukedchat

Paddymcgrath 20:39 @colport they don't want to do it if the t word comes up #ukedchat

lisacov19 20:39RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the confidence that

the HT prepared the path & that it is safe #ukedchat RT @ianaddison: @DeputyHeadDunn i think

we're going to make a 'clubs' blog, otherwise, every club will have

one #ukedchat

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ebd35 20:40RT @mr_chadwick: @ianaddison Have to be good example/role

model. Then they'll come to you. #ukedchat

caroljallen 20:40@deerwood #ukedchat absolutely! It works, it is effective and dare I

say it ...produces impact!

Paddymcgrath 20:40 @SusanElkinJourn it's always is a red rag for me #ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:40@ianaddison suppose it depends on how many clubs you've got!

We're a small primary so works well the way we do it #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:40@colport depends on who defines the times? #ukedchat if its league

tables then they might not be so badly off

didactylos 20:40

@drashcasey #ukedchat err, actually now I've looked a bit closer you

could be right!

john_at_muuua 20:41small distinction but are we 'bringing schools forward' or 'taking

schools forward'? big difference #ukedchat

jimbo9848 20:41#ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a VLE in the cloud

that works and teachers can operate. One day maybe...

DeputyHeadDunn 20:41 @dughall oh I agree totally! #ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:41@jessamacookie I think Ofsted is changing though - ICT important

again - learning important not test results #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:41

@geraldhaigh1 I wouldn't even say the tech is that - it is an enabler

for such things to take place and learning needs to be at


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squiggle7 20:41 @mr_chadwick that and e-safety are what I hear #ukedchat

Arakwai 20:42@deerwood Definately. We have seminars on different topics we

can sign up for, which a range of staff run. #ukedchat

colport 20:42@Paddymcgrath @mr_chadwick I do my class blog as a means ofcommunicating to parents http://bit.ly/cWC2Vy and pupils to discuss

#ukedchat

DeputyHeadDunn 20:42 @TheHeadsOffice agreed. 100% #ukedchat

Grevster73 20:42@deerwood I like the action research approach to cpd - focused,

personalized and effective small scale change #ukedchat

ebd35 20:42

@ianaddison ways to help the 'dinosaurs', what do you suggest?

#ukedchat Make it VERY easy for it to happen and make sure techworks!

DrAshCasey 20:42

RT: @dan_bowen: @DrAshCasey @deerwood @stevebob79

@dughall @ianaddison an innovation depends on your point of

reference #ukedchat

didactylos 20:42@geraldhaigh1 #ukedchat a healthy ecosystem is how I like to

describe it

DeputyHeadDunn 20:42@TheHeadsOffice our parents love it! They take lots of interest

#ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:42@colport HT should 'make' the time available. I think 'no time is the

worst excuse to make! #ukedchat

sellyeve 20:42 @caroljallen most definitely!! #ukedchat

colport 20:43

@TheHeadsOffice Totally agree. My class blog takes 5 minutes a day!

I make sure I find the time, for the benefit of pupils&parents

#ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:43 @DrAshCasey Important that 'free' laptops are not focussed on ch insch not interested in IT. Wasted resource #ukedchat

didactylos 20:43I would highly recommend it RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog

on learning platforms to the discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat

Paddymcgrath 20:43#ukedchat haven't we had something like 100 baker days since they

started. What's changed? What do we need to do in the next 100

SusanElkinJourn 20:43#ukedchat Trying to keep up at this speed is bringing on my (cured, I

thought) RSI so I'm bowing out for tonight. Another gd session, tho.

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TheBadgerBloke 20:43

RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a

VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day

maybe...

Grevster73 20:43

RT @jimbo9848: #ukedchat I fantasise about Google Classroom - a

VLE in the cloud that works and teachers can operate. One day

maybe...

missbrownsword 20:43RT @Grevster73: @deerwood I like the action research approach tocpd - focused, personalized and effective small scale change

#ukedchat

carolrainbow 20:43

@mr_chadwick #classblogs #ukedchat We are always saying the

same - good tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work

differently

innerquest 20:43ubiqutious technology, we're immersed in it, would we survive if we

lived 30 years agio? Hold on...we did! #ukedchat

simfin 20:43

may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the discussion

http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat

sellyeve 20:44@TheHeadsOffice for the most part, children are always interested in

IT aren't they? #ukedchat

ianaddison 20:44RT @simfin: may I offer my latest blog on learning platforms to the

discussion http://is.gd/g9Xmf #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:44RT @Grevster73: #ukedchat tech works when it supports pedagogical

approaches, but hate it when the tail starts to wag the dog. >SO right!

SkoorBttaM 20:44@colport I heard the time excuse too- now the children write the

blog post!! #ukedchat

stevebob79 20:44

#ukedchat Behind the times? on my SCITT today trainees were

amazed when I mentioned QCA SoW for ICT that many still follow is

12yrs old

john_at_muuua 20:45@stevebob79 i remember learning about 'punch cards' in 'IT' in 1984.

It was ever thus! #ukedchat

colport 20:45 @skoorBttaM Good idea. Again, that is involving the pupil. Couldwork in KS2+ #ukedchat

bennzaksflorist 20:45

RT @lisacov19: RT @TheHeadsOffice @DrAshCasey THey need the

confidence that the HT prepared the path & it is safe #ukedchat


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TheBadgerBloke 20:45@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they

need the support & safety to try new technology

Grevster73 20:45@ebd35 @ianaddison #ukedchat 'dinosaurs' are just laggards - they

need the support & safety to try new technology

didactylos 20:45#ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a pretty good

way of moving people one - right teaming is vital

colport 20:45@janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat session?

[@TheHeadsOffice ]

jessamacookie 20:45@carolrainbow I hope the trend continues. Hate the idea I had in ITT

of 'teaching the test' to my yr2s #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:45

@Arakwai it might act as the catalyst for change but it is not what

keeps it going #ukedchat

trees2066 20:46 School disco just finished... late to #ukedchat again...

dughall 20:46RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team teaching' can be a

pretty good way of moving people one - right teaming is vital

ianaddison 20:46 @DeputyHeadDunn any area #ukedchat

DrAshCasey 20:46@TheHeadsOffice it is a shame how much we do waste and now we

are losing specialist schools. A sad day. #ukedchat

Paddymcgrath 20:46RT @lisacov19: @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review -

reposition & move on

sellyeve 20:46@TheBadgerBloke 'dinosaurs' 'laggards' recent conference described

them as '1973 ford cortinas' - labels...makes me flinch! #ukedchat

innerquest 20:46 Perhaps the problem is that we're still engaged in a school systemfrom the Victorian era, should we be moving outside of it #ukedchat

janwebb21 20:46@colport I think you could be right! (when's my next moderation! )

#ukedchat

dughall 20:46RT @colport: @janwebb21 Perhaps we need a pedagogy #ukedchat

session? [@TheHeadsOffice ]


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NickiA10 20:46 How do you keep up with ukedchat?

ianaddison 20:46@stevebob79 QCA ICT schemes of work are older than any children

in my school... #ukedchat

lisacov19 20:46 @Paddymcgrath #ukedchat reflect -review - reposition & move on

DeputyHeadDunn 20:46 @ianaddison plenty of those...what area? #ukedchat

Arakwai 20:46#ukedchat A good mentoring/coaching programme within a school

can support staff (and school) development if run well.

ianaddison 20:47

@dughall @colport @janwebb21 @TheHeadsOffice we need some

non-tech #ukedchat sessions i reckon

carolrainbow 20:47@ianaddison Web 2.0 easy to use tool such as Fotobabble, wordle,

discussion forums, edu glogster, story makers. comics #ukedchat

john_at_muuua 20:47

RT @dughall: RT @didactylos: #ukedchat got to say proper 'team

teaching' can be a pretty good way of moving people one - right

teaming is vital

TheBadgerBloke 20:47#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has

huge educational potential! #smugmode

Grevster73 20:47#ukedchat I'm using my new iPad for the first time tonight! This has

huge educational potential! #smugmode

missbrownsword 20:47lesson study is a good model for sharing good practice but it takes up

a lot of time #ukedchat

TheHeadsOffice 20:47@dughall Are you saying risk taking & standards can't go together?

#ukedchat

caroljallen 20:47

@ianaddison #ukedchat I find that free stuff from the web to

support barriers to learning eg screen readers; text to speech etc arewinners

mr_chadwick 20:47

RT @carolrainbow: #ukedchat We are always saying the same - good

tech does not take more time but needs teacher to work differently

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