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Transcript of “302 with Dan Yachter & Deed Harrison”

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Bulletproof Radio Podcast #302, Yachter & Harrison

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Dave: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance.

Dave: Hey,it'sDaveAspreyofBulletproofRadio.Today'scoolfactofthedayisthatpeoplewhothink

they'returningtheirheadfurtherthantheyarereportneckpainearlierthanpeoplewhothinkthey'returningtheirheadlessthantheyactuallyare,andthat'sprobablybecauseyourbodystartssendingpainsignalswhenitsensesdangerratherthanwhenitactuallyfeelspain.It'strickingyouwithoutyourknowledgeorpermissionwhichiswhyyoushouldlistentoyourbodybutyoushouldn'talwaystrustwhatittellsyou.

Ifyouhaven'thadachancetocheckouttheBulletproofStorelately,wejustputupabunchofrealcoolnewt-shirts,includingsomethathavetodowithbutter.Ifyou'reupforsomenewthreads,checkoutthenewBulletproofstuff,it'sawesome.Today'sshowisgoingtobereally,reallyfunbecauseI'vegot2world-renownedchiropracticexperts,Dr.DanYachterandDr.DeedHarrison.

Dr.Yachterisoneofthe5chiropracticthoughtleaderswhoco-foundedEvolutionHealth,whichisanewtypeofchiropractorthatbuildsinternationalofficesbasedonsomestandards,andheistheauthorofthebookcalledTheDoctoroftheFuture.Dr.DeedHarrisonisachiropracticresearcherandeducatorwhohasdevelopedhisownsetofspinalrehabprocedures,andhaslecturedthousandsofchiropractorsandregularMDsinhundredsofeducationalconferencesaroundtheworld.

Hehaswrittenabout100peer-reviewedspinepublicationsand5textbooksonthespineandhe’sthedirectoroftheIdealSpineHealthCenterinEagle,Idaho.Welcome,DanandDeed.

Dr.Dan: Thankyou.Thankyouforhavingus.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.ThankyouverymuchDave.Wearehonoredtobehere.

Dave: I'lladmit,I'veusedchiropracticforquitealongtime.ProbablythefirsttimeIwentwas1997.IwokeupandmybackhurtlikeI'dneverfeltbefore.ItwasjusthorribleandIwenttoworkanyway.Iwasturninggreenandmybossatthetime,she'slike,"Dave,something'swrong."I'mlike,"Yeah,mybackkindofhurts."She'slike,"Youneedtogoseeadoctororsomething."I'mlike,"Doctors[inaudible00:02:15]withbackpain."

IjustrandomlyfoundachiropractorandhedidsomethingthatkindofhelpsandIwaslike,"Oh,that'sinteresting."Igotmoreandmoreinterestedinwhat'sgoingonanddiscoveredthatthere'sliterallyhundredsandhundredsofdifferent...Beliefsystemsisthewrongside,we'llsaysub-specialtiesofchiropracticwheresomepeoplearelookingatthermalimaging,somepeoplearedoingthis.Ifoundthatit'sarealscienceandit'spracticedinmany,manydifferentwaysyetthere'sstillsomedegreeof,say,skepticism.

Ithinkmyfatherhasprobablyneverbeentoachiropractorbecause,"Well,Idon'tknow,they


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mightcrackyourbackandthenyou'dbeaddicted,"andalltheseweirdthings.Myfirstquestionforyouguys,aspeoplewho’vespentyourcareerinthisstuff,whyisthereskepticismtowardschiropractic?

Dr.Dan: Ithinkreallymorethananythingit'skindofwhatwe'redoingtodayiswe'regoingtobereachingsomanypeopletohelpthem,it'sreallyanunderstanding.Oncetheunderstandingcomesofwhatchiropracticisabout,Ithinkpeoplewouldbeopentoitbecauseit'slogical.It'scommonsensewhenyouexplainthefactthatstructuredeterminesfunctionandthey'resointerrelated,andreallyasachiropractor,Dr.DeedandIknowtheultimatebio-mechanicalandfunctionalperformancehackismakingsurethespineisinalignment.

Becausereasonfollowswhereifyouhaveaspinalcordthat'srunningthroughthespineandit'sdeliveringcommunicationfromthesystemthat'srunningthebody,thebrainandthespinalcordcontrol,coordinate,harmonize,regulate,directeverysinglefunctionofthebody.Everyorganandglandiscontrolledfromairtrafficcontrol,[Houston00:03:53]control.Thereare24movablevertebrae,asacrumandcoccyxandthenervoussystemishousedwithinthespine.

Verysimply,ifanyofthebonesareoutoftheirnormalalignment,theycancreateamechanicalirritation,animpingement,stressattentiononthenervoussystemitself.Thatwilldisruptthemessages,thecommunication,thetransmissionthroughthisenergysystem,thiselectricalsystem.Thatwillthencauseorgansthemselvestissues,glandstobreakdown.

It’sreallyjustamatterofunderstandingcommunication.Ifthepublicunderstoodthemessageinasimplewaythatwayandunderstandthattheirhealth,theirenergy,theirabilitytohealisdirectlyrelatedtothepositionoftheirspine,totheirskeletalstructureandalignmentandeverythingthatgoesalongwithit.It’sasimplemessageandanybodythatDr.DeedandIeverreallyexplaineditto,peoplesay,“Well,ofcourse.”

Whathappens,typically,inthepublic,therearealotofmessagesthataregoingonandthat’swhyIthinkthepublicisneverreally,onagrandscale,understoodbutDr.Deedisoneofthetopresearchersintheworldandhecansharewithyouwhathe’sbeeninvolvedwithintheresearch.There’ssomuchresearchthat’sbeendonethathe’sbeeninvolvedwith,thathe’sbeenbringingtotheworldandbringingtothechiropracticprofession;toreallyshowthepowerofwhathappenswhenyouhaveaclearfunctioningnervoussystem.It’spowerfulonmanylevelsincludingperformanceingeneral.

Dave: Idefinitelyunderstandwhatyou’resayingthere.Deed,you’vebeendoingthisforquiteawhileandI’veseenachangeinthewaypeopleperceivechiropractic.It’smuchmoreacceptednowthanitwas10or20yearsago,butit’sbeengoingonforaverylongtimeanditseemsalmostlikethere’sbeensomecompetitivestressfromothermedicalprofessionswhodidn’tnecessarilylikedwhatwasgoingonthere.Haveyouexperiencedthatinyourcareer?

Dr.Deed: Ohsure,andyourquestionandcommenthitsthenailonthehead,therealitythatthechiropracticsmarketsharehasn’tgrowninthelast10years.What’shappenedisthere’sjustbeenmaybealoudervoice,andsoitappearsthatwehavegreaterpublicinterestandagreatercommunitysupport.Therealityofitisit’sstillunder10%ofthepopulationactuallyregularly


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seesachiropractor.

That’sbeengoingonforatleastthelastdecade,maybe2decades.Theissueischiropracticisthesmallkidontheblock.We’rethenewerkidinthehealthcareandalways,thegroupthathastheloudervoicewiththemostmoneyandthemostresourcestendstoreallyinfluencethepublicperception.Chiropractichasneverreallyhadareallybigmarketingvoice,we’veneverhadthedollars;wedon’thaveindustrythatbacksourprofession.

Thereality,theprofession,isn’twellknowntothepublicandit’slikeDr.Dansaid,iftheyreallyknewwhatwedid,therewouldn’tbethisskepticism.I’veseentheskepticisminmycareerfromaclinicalpointofviewbutalsofromaresearchpointofviewtoowhereyou’rekindof...Insomeways,you’renotgiventhesamelevelofentryintoresearchbecauseyouareachiropractor.Yeah,theskepticismrunsdeep.

Dave: It’sverydifferentthanBigPharmaandit’snotreallyfundedbyBigPharmabutIwanttohearyourstoryabouthowyougointothisandendedupwriting100peer-reviewedpublicationsandall.HowdidyougetstartedDeed?Walkmethroughwhatattractedyoutochiropracticandthenhowyoubuiltacareerdoingthis.

Dr.Deed: That’sagreatquestion,thankyouDave.TherealityofitisIgotagreatstartfrommyfather.Mylatefatherpassedawayin2011,wasreallyapioneerinthechiropracticprofessionandhisnamewasDr.DonHarrison.HegraduatedChiropracticCollegeinthelate1970sandinhisera,therewasreallynochiropracticresearchatall.Therereallywasn’tevenachiropracticprofessionals’scientificjournal.

Mydadcamefromamathandsciencebackground.Healreadyhadamaster’sdegreeinmathandabachelor’sdegreeinPhysics,andthenwhenhegotintochiropractic,hesawthelackofscienceandasdidmanypeopleinhisera.HereallypioneeredtheorganizationthatInowheaduptodaywhichisChiropracticBioPhysics.Longstoryshort,mydadistheonethatstartedthetechniqueanalysisandsystem.

Hestartedourresearchfoundationinthelate1980sandthenIcamealongin1994whenIwenttoChiropracticCollegeandIwenttoChiropracticCollegesimplybecauseIhadgrownupasachiropracticchild.Ihadseenit,I’veheardit,Iwasinmydad’spracticeetc.andIjustcamealongattherighttimeIthinkandofcourse,notbelittlingmyselfbutIwasgivenagiftandIgottorunwithit.

Dave: Awesome.Thatmakesalotofsensebecausewhenyouseeyourparentsdoitandyouunderstand,thatthereisacertainskillthat’sinvolvedinbeingachiropractorthatisdifferentthanbeingaphysician.Physiciansalsohavebedsidemannerof...Someofthearereallygoodattheirsurgicalthingorwhateverelseyou’redoing,somebetterthanothers,butIfeellikethere’salittlebitmorehands-onmanipulationsotospeakwhenyou’reachiropractor.

ThedifferencebetweenchiropractorAandchiropractorBislikelytobegreaterthanthedifferencebetweenphysicianAandphysicianBinthesamesub-specialty.That’sbeenmyexperience.


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Dr.Deed: Yeah.That’stotallytrue.Therealityofitisalotofit’stheconnectionbetweenthedoctorand

thepatientandthentheskilllevelandthetrainingofthedoctorthemselves,thechiropractor.Thismightbesomeoftheskepticismtoo.Peoplemayhaveexperiencedanotsogoodadjustmentfromachiropractorandthentheyhavetheskepticalmindandtheysay,“Oh,chiropractorsarequacks,I’mnotgoingback.”

Well,therealityofitistheyjustdidn’tfindtherightonethatconnectedwiththem.It’slikewhenyougoouttoeat.Sometimesyoumightactuallygotoarestaurantandyougetfoodpoisoning.Thatdoesn’tmeanyou’renevergoingtoeatagain,right?

Dave: Itdoesmeanyoushouldnevertrustachef.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.

Dave: Infact,that’sabeautifulanalogyandtherearecertainlydifferentlevelsofexperiencethere.Dan,howdidyoufindyourselfinthisfield?

Dr.Dan: It’sinteresting.IwasattheUniversityofFloridaasapremedstudentandmybrother,priortothat,hegotintoareallybadcaraccidentinhisearly20sandseverebackpain,very,verysevereinjuryhehadtohisback,hisspine.Theonlyoptionsthedoctorswerereallytalkingaboutweresurgery;lotsofdrugs,painkillers.WhilehewasattendingUniversityofFlorida,hisbestfriendtoldhim,“Goseemychiropractor.Mychiropractor,uh,isgoingtosaveyoufromthebladesandfromthedrugs.”

Mybrotherwent;withinafewweeks,hehadfullfunctionandhealthbacktohisbody,restoredandneverneededthedrugsorthesurgery.Followingthatexperience,hedecidedhewantedtobecomeachiropractor.Ineverhadachiropractorinmyfamily,mother,father,nobodyinmylineagewaseverachiropractor.Mybrotherwasjustinspiredbythatexperience.

Hewentofftochiropracticschoolandstartedlearning,startedgettinghishandskilledandtobacktrackalittlebit,andyou’llseehow,Iguess,thestoryunfoldshere,myfather,whenhewas7yearsofage,hewentdownaslideheadfirstandtheslideendedinalakeandrightunderneaththeslidewasacastironbathtub.Myfather’sheadcollidedwiththebathtub,hadaveryseriouscranialtrauma,almostdrowned,wasknockedoutcoldbutwasabletogetthroughthatepisode.

Myfatherspentthenextseveraldecadesexperiencingcripplingmigraineheadachesandheendeduptakingmassiveamountsofpainkillers,drugs,acoupleorgansgotknockedout.HewasmiserableandIgrewupwatchingmyfathergothroughthis.Itwaslife-altering,tosaytheleast,formydad.Mydadwasalwaysmiserable;itwasaveryseriouslife-disruptorformyfather.

Tocomefullcirclebacktomybrother,mybrothercomeshomeafterhisfirstyearinchiropracticschoolandsaystomydad,“Hey.IthinkwhatI’mlearninginschoolmaybeabletohelpyou.”Myfatherisstill...Thisis40yearssincehisheadaches,stilllivingintormentingpain.Nodoctorhadbeenabletohelphim.Allhewasofferedweremoremedications,noonecould


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figureoutwhatwaswrong.

Mybrotherdidanevaluationonmyfatheranddiscoveredtheatlasvertebrae,thefirstbonewasoutofalignment.Mostofthetimewithheadaches,mostoftheliteraturestatesthatheadachesaretypicallycervicogenic,theytypicallyoriginateintheuppercervicalspine.Now,myfatherneverhadpain.Hehadmoreofafunctionalissuebeingcausedbytheatlaslackofalignmentthatwascreatingamechanicaldistortionofthebrainstemandthatwholearea.

Nopain,somaybeifaphysicianwouldhavedoneaphysicalexaminationonhimhadhecomplainedaboutneckpain,butheneverhadanyneckpain.Mybrother,throughadiscussionwithmyfatherandthroughananalysis,discoveredthisboneoutofalignment,convincedmyfathertoallowhimtoadjusthimandhedidit,aseriesofadjustmentswhilehewashome.

ItwaslikeaChristmasvacation,hewashomeforquiteawhile,afewweeks,maybeamonth.Hedidawholeseriesofadjustmentsandthatwasthat.Hewentbacktoit,LancewenttoLifeUniversitywhichiswherewebothwenttochiropracticschool.Thenprobably4,5,6monthstranspiredandmyfathercalledmybrotheronthephoneandsaidtomybrother,“Youknow,theheadachesaregone.Idon’thaveanyheadaches,completelygone.”

Thisiswellover20yearsagoandtothisday,myfatherhasnoknownanesthetics;he’soffallthemedicationshewason.Becauseofallthedisruptionsinhisbody,hewasonalso...Theyhadhimonsynthroidfor35years.He’soffthesynthroid,mydad’sgettingreadytoturn...He’sgoingtobe75nextweek,sonoheadaches,completelygoneafter40yearsofsuffering,nomedications,healthy,strong.

Isawthathappenanditlitmeup.IwasapremedstudentattheUniversityofFloridaandthatwasthedirectionIwantedtobegoin,hadmyaspirationsthereandIsawwhatchiropracticdidformyfather.ItliterallygavehimhislifebackanditturnedmearoundandIwasinchiropracticschooljustlikethat.

Dave: Youbasicallysawhowitworked.Bothofyouhadanopportunitytoseebigchangesfromit.IhavefoundthatmanychiropractorsthatIhavecometoknowovertheyearsareclassicalbiohackers.Theyaremuchmoreconnectedwiththe...[Coming00:15:12]tomakeachangeandthenseewhattheresultsare,whichisactuallylikethescientificmethod.Youdothisandoneofthemostprofoundexperiencesthatmademereallypayattentiontothis,whenmysonwasborn,Icaughthim.

Wehadabirthathomewhichiskindofcool.Wehadanemergencyroomphysicianstandingbybecausemywifeisanemergencyroomphysician.Shewastheonepregnantbutwhattheheck!Wealsohadotherhelpersveryclosetothehospitalsoitwasverysafe.Ideliveredmysonbutitwasrelativelytightcomingout,andunlikemydaughter,hewouldn’tsleepformorethan20minutes.

HewouldmovehisarminaweirdwayandI’mlike,“Youknow,thisbabyisinpain.”Justthrougharandomconnection,wegotintroducedtoaguywho’swrittentheonlychiropractictextbookthat’susedforbabiesinregularhospitals.Helecturesaroundtheworldteachingat,


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basically,birthwardslike,“Here’swhattodo.”HismostfamoustrickwastofindtheinfantsonoxygenintheICUandtouchthebackoftheirheadwithonefingeratjusttherightspotandtheiroxygensaturationwouldjustgoupandupinwaysthataresupposedtobeimpossible,buthe’steachingittodoctors.

Hetookmyson,5daysold,I’mlikealittlenervoushere,Idon’twanttoseehimholdinghimbytheheadandshakinghim,kidding,nochiropractorwouldeverdothat.Whathedidishesaid,“Ah,okay.Yeah,there’ssomethingintheupperbackright,probablytheatlasforallIknow.”Heputthepressure,hedescribeditasthepressureofanickelrestingonyourhand,thatmuchpressureinjusttherightspotandforthefirsttimein5days,literally,Allenjustsatthereforasecond,meltedintothebedandslept12hoursstraight.

Hehadsomethinggoingon,hisarmwerelike...Hehadsomethingpinchedupthereandheliterallycouldn’tsleepbecauseofit.IimagineifIhadnotbeenfortunatetomeet...HisnameisDr.Peterfish,tomeetachiropractorwhohadtherightskillsattherighttime,it’sentirelypossiblythefirst2yearswhenAllen’sbrainisreallycookinginthereanddoingwhatitdoes,itwouldhavebeendistractedbysleepandchronicpain.

Ifeellikethere’sawholebranchofscienceherethat’stotallyworthexploring,thatisnon-drugandtheinnovationsI’veseen,probablybecauseoftheinternetbecausechiropractorsaresharingknowledgeandtechniquesandscience,thatit’sactuallyareallygoodtimeforchiropractic.Becausethepeoplewhoarenotskilled,well,theyhaveYelpreviews,andthepeoplewhoareskilledandthey’rewritingtextbooksandendupgettingmorepatientsandmoreacclaimfortheworkthey’redoing.

Ithinkthecat’soutofthebagintermsofwhetherornotitworks.Inthehandsofagoodpractitioner,Ithinkthere’ssomuchevidencethatgoodthingsarehappeningherethatIdon’tworryaboutitsomuch.

Dr.Deed: Youboth,Dr.DanandDave,havebroughtupwonderful,beautiful,basically,casestudies,Dave,withyourchildandDan,withyourfather.Thechallengeisthisandasaresearcherandaclinician,I’minauniquespot.Theclinicianinme,Ilookateverysinglepersonthatcomesinasacasestudyandmyjobistheneedsoftheone.It’snottheneedsofthemany.It’sthatperson,thatindividualrightthereinfrontofme,it’sacasestudy.

Theresearcherinmeandtheskepticsoutthere,themedicalresearchcommunity,thesurgicalresearchcommunity,anyotherscientificmindthat’snotachiropractor,theylookatthesecasesandtheygo,“Interestingcoincidence.”Thisisourchallenge.Theclinicianandtheparentandtheperson,weknowwhat’sreal.Weexperiencedit;wewerethere.

Thisistheproblemwithchiropracticis,we’veneverhadalargescaleindustryfundthatwecouldtake1000caseslikeDan’sdadorDavelikeyourchildandsay,“Okay.Let’srandomlyassignthemto,youknow,conservativecarewhichistraditional,youknow,medicalinterventionversusconservativecarewhichischiropracticintervention,andthenlet’sreallyseewhathappens.”


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Now,thesethingsarestartingtobedonebuttheydon’texistoneverytypeofoutcome.LikeinyourcaseDave,there’snot1000casesthatwehaveonachildthat’snotrespiratingnormally.ThenDave,wedohavealotofevidenceon...Ohsorry,Dr.Dan,wehaveevidenceonheadachebuttherealchallengeisdoinglargescaletrialstoreallyconfirmwhatwealreadyknowasaclinicianandwhatwealreadyknowasthepatient.

Dave: Also,largescaletrials,there’sthisbizarrethingthatIbelieveisfundamentallyunscientificthatcomesfromBigPharma.Theydon’tmeasuretonsandtonsofvariablesthatprobablyhaveabigsayintheoutcomeherelike,“We’regoingtotestmedicationbutwe’renotgoingtotestthedietorevenrecordthedietofthepeopletakingthemedication,eventhoughthereareknowninteractionsbetweencertainfoodsandcertainmedications.”

Oneofthebiggestthingsthathappenwhenyou’retryingtomeasureamodality,isyouhavepatientsandofcoursepatientsarealldifferentgenetically,inlifestyleandwhateverelse,butyoucanidentifyit.Xnumberofpatientswithsomekindofconditionand80%certaintythattheyactuallyhavethatcondition.Ifit’schronicfatigue,whoknows,ifit’sbrokenlegs,thenokay,wecanreallyknowyouhaveabrokenleg.

Thenyouhaveamodalitywe’regoingtotreatlikesomewayoftreatingthem.Thoseare2variablesandthat’swhatwewanttomatchupandthenthat’ssupposedtobeit.Thehealerisanothervariableanditisentirelypossibleinacupuncture,chiropracticandeventraditionalmedicinebutmoresointheothersocalledalternativemedicineorevenafunctionalmedicinedoctor.

Thequalityandperceptionandskillsofthecaregiverareavariablethatisjustasimportantasthepatient.Whenpeoplesay,“Well,youknow,there’snodoubleblindstudiesonthat,”yeah,oneoftheproblemsisthatthewaythedoctoractscanaffectoutcome.Weknowthisbecausewehaveplaceboandnoceboeffects.Idon’tunderstandhowwe’retryingtoremovethecareproviderfromthesciencewhenwhatwe’redoinghereisnotpaintbynumbers.

Ifweweretoevaluateanartistorachef,youwouldn’tsay,“Well,youknowwhat?Thischefcookingtechnique,sorry,itdoesn’twork.”Well,it’sapplieddifferentlybydifferentchefs.That’swhytheyhavedifferentrestaurantsandthat’sfunny.Whenyouputapaintbrush,unlessyoudoingpaintbynumberswhichnoonelikes,whenyouputitinthehandsofMonetorPicasso,yougetverydifferentoutcomesyetthey’rebothart.Whatdoyouguyshavetosayaboutjustthevalidityofthiskindofdoubleblindclinicaltrialtowardssomethingthathasthecareproviderssointegraltowhatitdoes?

Dr.Deed: Thisismyfieldandmyissue.I’maclinicianatheartbutI’maresearchernowinpractice,that’swhatIdo.Weknowthis,weknownowthatevidencebasedmedicineandevidencebasedhealthcare,evidencebasedchiropractic,weknowitdependsonatleast3variables.It’stheneedsoftheone,thepatient,andthat’stheuniquepersonlikeyou’vesaidDave,theirgenetics,whattheydo,whattheyeatetc.sotheneedsoftheone.

Number2,it’susingthebestavailableevidencethatwehaveatthistime.Maybeit’snotadoubleblindrandomizedtrial,maybeit’sjustsimplycasestudiesandthat’sallwehaveona


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certaintopic,soit’sthebestavailableevidence,whateveritis.Thenthethirdoneisexactlywhatyou’vesaidattheend.It’sthetrainingandtheexpertiseoftheprovider.Allthose3cometogethertopaintthispictureofanoutcome.

Theproblemiswhenwetalkaboutindustryandfundingandinsuranceandgovernments,they’reinterestedinonethingandit’scalledtheirbottomlineandit’scostsavings.It’sreallyoddthatthey’llcutoutcertainthingslikechiropracticwhenit’slessthan1%ofanannualhealthcarebudget.Theydoitanywayunderacostsavingsumbrellaandthereality,astheclinician,weknowthatthose3thingsplayarolenomatterwhatwedo.

Weknowthatsomepeopleneed1visitandsomepeopledon’tneeddietarymodifications.Otherpeoplemightneed100visitsandafullspectrumofdietaryandnutritionalmodifications.Whenwetrytodoarandomizedtrial,adoubleblindplacebocontroltrial,there’salwaysconstraintsanditneverallowsfreedomofthecliniciantotrulydowhattheywouldactuallydoiftheyweren’tpartofanexperimentaldesign.

Bynature,randomizedtrialsforceacertainthing.Theyforceeitherastartoranendortheyforceacertaintypeoftreatmentinterventionoveracertaintimeandthisisthechallenge.Inreality,ittakesthedoctor-patientrelationshipoutofit.

Dave: There’ssomethingelseyoumentioned.You’retalkingaboutthisevidence-basedmedicinewhichisactuallyareallypejorativeterm,equivalenttonon-shittymedicine.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.

Dave: Ipracticenon-shittymedicinebecauseeverythingelseotherthanwhatIsayisobviouslyshitty.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.

Dr.Dan: Mm-hmm(affirmative).

Dave: Well,here’sthedeal,therearemanyformsofevidenceandpeoplewhoareworshippingirrationallytotheevidence-basedgods,havechosentoignore,Ithinkit’s6or7kindsofevidencethatyoucanacceptinfavorofbasicallysaying,“Thisone,anyonewhodoesn’tusethekindofevidencethatIlikeis,isbasicallyaquack,afraud,whateverelse,”andallthatkindofBS.

Itisfundamentallyanti-sciencewhensomeonesaysevidence-basedandstarttocallyououtthereDeedbuthere’sthething.Youbettersaywhatkindofevidenceyou’retalkingaboutbecauseclinicalevidence,asin,“Thisguywassickandnowhe’sbetter.”Thatisanobservation,thescientificmethodwhereyoustartwithanobservation,youformhypothesisandthenyoutestit.

Ifyourejectclinicaloutcomesandclinicalobservationsfromhundredsofthousandsofcareprovidersbecausetherearen’tdoubleblindstudiesthere,whatyou’reactuallydoingisyou’repracticingthisbizarreformof...Idon’tevenknowwhattocallitbutitisn’tmedicineandit’snotevenevidence-based.It’sactuallyselectiveevidenceofvoidancetosupportwhateveryour


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hypothesisis,anditisnodifferentthanpracticing,well,Iwouldcallitwitchdoctory.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.We’reonthesamepageDave.Ialwaystaketheclinicalsideinmyprofession.I’mreallyablacksheepresearchereventhoughI’moneofthetopintheprofession.I’mlikeI’mreallynotwellthoughtofintheresearchcommunityandit’sforwhatyou’vejustsaid.Thebestavailableevidencetome,itcouldbeacasestudyonatopic.That’sallwehaveandsotome,thatisevidence.

Therealityofitiswetryusewhat’scalledexpertopinionandanalogiesandanecdotesandtherealityofthat,itdoesn’tmatterwhotheexpertis,thatisactuallythelowestformofevidence.AsinglecasestudylikeyourchildandDr.Dan’sdad,thatisevidenceandso...WehavethisdoubleedgedswordsoIthinkI’vesaidenoughandI’llturnitovertoDr.Dan.

Dr.Dan: Yeah.Theconcepthereisthatit’snotanallopathicmodel,it’savitalisticmodelthatwe’redealingwith.It’sadifferenttypeofparadigmtobeginwithandthere’sa,what’sknownasreallyadynamicessential,anesotericthatyoucan’tleaveoutofthepicture;it’swhatyoutoucheduponDave,iswhattheclinicianisbringingtothearena,totheoffice.

Ijustgotfinishedgettingadiplomateinpediatricssothat’soneofthethingsIheavilyfocusoninmyoffice.I’moneofjustafewinthecountry,ahandfulofdoctorswhoarereallyheavilyfocusedinthatarenaandwehad...Inorderformetocompletethestudies,Ihadtodoalotofresearch.WehadtogatherupquestionnairesthroughtheNIHandalotofdatahadtobe...Wehadtoputpatientsinaroombythemselvesandtheyhadtodoquestionnaires.

Theoutcomesweregreat,thequalityoflifeassessmentsandeverythingthatwasrecordedbutitalsogoesbacktothefactiswhattypeisahealer,whattypeofenvironmentareyousettingup?Asavitalistichealthcareproviderinavitalisticparadigm,we’reveryconscious,we’reveryawareofwhatwe’rebringingtothetableaswell.That’sahugepieceofthepuzzleandmanychiropractors,likeyousaidalittlewhileago,areveryfocusedonthat.

That’swhatreallydrewmetoyoutobeginwith.IranintoyouandheardyouacoupleyearsagoatJJVirgin’sseminarinTampainJanuary,2014.Mywife,thefirstthingshedoeswhenshewakesupinthemorning,besideschangingthediapersbecauseIhavea1yearoldanda3yearold,shegoestothekitchenandgetsherBulletproofcoffeeandwehaveallofthese...It’spartofourlife,theBulletprooflifestylewe’veincorporatedbecauseIknowasacliniciantoo,Iwanttobringmybesttothepractice.

Really,whatwe’relookingatwhenwe’retalkingabouttheparadigmisyes,wecan’tleavethepractitionerout.Forexample,inmyoffice,oneofthethingswetrytodototheseofficelike-mindedchiropractorsiswetrytosetupanatmospherefeeling.Whatdoesthatlooklike?It’sverysupportive,it’sverynurturing,it’sprovidinginformation,it’sempowering;it’sadifferenttypeofenvironmentoutsideofbeingdictatorial.

It’smoreofapartnership,it’smoreofanalliance,it’smoreofyourfacilitatingtheprocess.It’saverydifferentmindsetinavitalisticparadigmoravitalistichealthcaremodel.Whenyousetitupthatwayandit’sfosteringasenseofnurturingandsupportandpeoplefeellikethey’re


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growingandthey’relearningandthey’rereallygettingfedknowledgeandtheyfeellikethey’rehealingandgrowingandlearningandtheyattendworkshopsandthey’regettingknowledge,it’sawholedifferentexperience,it’sadifferentparadigm.

Theoutcomeshavetobemeasuredmaybewithstandardmodelsbutalso,youhavetolookathowdoyouencompassallofthedifferentdynamicsthatareinvolvedinthisvitalisticparadigmwhichisdifferentandit’snoteasytomeasure,andit’sveryeasytodiscount.Whenyouhave100,200,300babiesinmypracticethathaveallhadsimilarexperiencestoyourson,it’slike,“Butokay,gobackandtrytotrackscientificallyexactlyhowithappens.”

It’snotaseasyinavitalisticmodelandIthinkthat’swheresometimeschiropracticfindsitschallengesinregardstoresearchandotherwise.

Dave: Isitpossibletogethurtbyachiropractorwhodoesn’tknowwhatthey’redoingorevensomeonewhodoesknowwhatthey’redoing?Imeandopeoplegetparalyzed,dopeopleendupwithheadaches,istherearisk?

Dr.Deed: That’sagreatquestion.Thegeneralansweristhere’sarisktoeverythingthatwedo.Theperspectiveisyou’re1000timesmorelikelytogetinjuredbytakinganover-the-counterpainkillerlikeanaspirinoraTylenolthanyouarebygoingtoachiropractorforthesamecondition.Theperspectiveispeopledon’thesitatetotakeanAdvil,aTylenoloranaspirinyet,you’re1000timesmorelikelytobeinjuredfromthatthanbyseeingachiropractor.

Aretheresomeinjuriesthathavebeendocumentedunderchiropracticcare?Yes.Intrialsthathavebeendone,theylookat,“Didyouhaveanegativeexperience.”Negativemeansdoyouhaveasubtleincreaseinneckpain,doyouhaveasubtleincreaseinbackpainoretc.followingacertainvisit.Therealityisthosethingsdooccurbutthey’retransient,theytendtobevery,veryshort-livedinnatureandtheytendtobeverymildinnature.

Thenonceinawhile,thereisamuchrareinjurythatisverysignificant,butthat’switheverythingthatwedo.

Dave: It’safairpointbecausenoone’severinjuredbytheirallopathicphysicianseither.

Dr.Deed: Correct,right.

Dave: LaststatisticIsawwaslike40,000deathsayearthroughthatkindofmedicinethatareunnecessary,sothere’sriskanytimeyoudoanythingandIdon’tbelievethatthereisundueriskinmyexperiencewithchiropractic.I’vealsoheardsomeotherprettysubstantialclaimslike,“Oh,chiropracticcanhelpyouwithheartdiseaseordiabetes,”andthesethingsthatwesternmedicinedoesn’tnecessarily...Well,I’llsaywesternizedlikestoignorecuresforitlike,oh,food.What’sthechiropractictakeondiseaseslikethese?

Dr.Dan: Ithinkit’sreally...Chiropracticmorethananythingisaboutgettingthebodytoperformitsbestandrecognizingthephilosophicaltenetsofchiropracticandthefactthatthebodyisaself-healing,self-regulatingorganism.It’sgotinnateintelligenceandwehonorthataschiropractors


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thatthebodycanandwillhealitself.Itneedsnohelp,itjustneedsnointerference,andsochiropracticisnotnecessarilyatreatmentforthings.

ImakesurethatthefolksandDr.Deedandhisclinicandwhatnot,whenfolkscometothedoorwithanycondition,andtherearealotofdifferentconditionsthatwalkthroughthedoor,thefirstconversationwehavewhenwe’rebringingthemthroughtheinitialintakeconsultandexam,isthatwe’renotgoingtobetreatingtheirillness,sicknessanddisease.

Inmyestimation,we’redoingsomethingmoresuperiorwhichisremovinginterferencetothebody’sinnatehealingexpression.Thefirstplacewestartiswiththeirspine.OneofthethingsIdoalotinmyofficeisIhaveadegreeinnutritionaswellalongwithbeingachiropractor,soI’mvery,veryheavyintonutrition.We’regoingtolookatthatwhetherit’saneonate,atoddler,asmallchild,anadult,butallinanefforttoremoveinterferencenotnecessarilytotreat.

That’sreallythefirstplacethatwestart.Ifwecangettheinterferenceremovedorremoveasmuchaswecanbiomechanically,chemically,maybehelpthememotionallyorhelpthemfindmaybemental,emotionalstressreducersinthisholisticapproach,allowtheirbodiestoperformattheirbest.Thebody,bydefault,wantstobewell.Itwantstoheal,itwantstoperformwellandexpressgreathealingpotentialandgreatfunction.Itknowshowtodoit.Itjustneedsnointerferenceorminimalinterferenceindoingso.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.

Dave: ItsoundssuspiciouslylikethisBulletproofideawhichis,“Removethethingsthatmakeyouweakanddomoreofthethingsthatmakeyoustrong.”

Dr.Dan: That’sit.Iloveit.Ijustgotdonereadingthebookherethatyouguyssentinmy[crosstalk00:34:51].

Dave: Oh,thebook,infact,yeah.

Dr.Dan: Awesome,justgotthecookbooktooandthat’stheconcept.Thebodyissmart.Howdoyoubiohackthebody,howdoyoubiohackthenervoussystem,howdoyougetthebodyworkingatitsbestwhichisaconcept?It’sremovinginterference.Thebodybyitsdivinedesignsistobewell,toexpressenergyandthat’swhereweleadourpatientsandthat’swhysomanychiropractorsresonatewithyouaswellandinyourphilosophyandyourscienceandyourvision.

Dave: Well,thankyouandDeed,youweregoingtosaysomethingintheretoo.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.IjustwantedtoaddwhatDansaidandwhatyou’vebeensayingtooDave.Therealityofitisweinterveneandwelookatthepersonasawhole.Thepersonmighthavecardiovasculardisease.There’snotanadjustmentinthespinethatsays,“Youadjustthisvertebraeandtheheartwillfunctionbetter.”That’snothowitworks.Whatwedoknowthoughthroughscienceandresearch,weknowthatthereisalinkbetweencervicalspine,degenerativediscdiseaseandbonespursandcardiovascularcomplications.


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It’sexactlywhatyoutwohavebothsaid.It’sabreakdownofthesystemasawhole,soyes,weneedtointervenetothespine,yes,weneedtomakealsodietaryandnutritionalmodificationsandthenaskyourdoctorifgettingoffyourbuttisrightforyouandlet’sexercise,right?

Dave: Now,inyourtraining,didyouguysgettraininginnutrition?

Dr.Deed: Yes.

Dave: Howmanyhourswouldyousay,justballpark?

Dr.Dan: Well,LifeUniversity,Imeantherewereseveralclasses,soIdon’tknowwhatthehoursadduptobutitwasanintegralpartofthecurriculumand-

Dave: Like100plus,probablywaymorethanthatifit’sanintegralpart.

Dr.Dan: Yeah,it’sbakedintothecurriculum.Imeanthere’salotofit.

Dave: Comparedtothe8hoursinmedicalschoolthattheaveragephysiciangets,soyou’reprobablymoretrainedthantheaverageMDalthoughthereareMDswhoarenotaverage.Imeanlikethere’sMarkHyman,IthinkisamutualfriendandDavid[Promata00:37:00]andthey’reguyswhoareincrediblyknowledgeableinnutritionandwhohaveMDs.It’susuallynotfromtheirMDstudieswheretheygotunlessthey’reaclinicalnutritionistandanMD.

Alotofpeoplewhohavenoteverbeentoachiropractordon’tunderstandthatchiropracticincludesalotofnutritionwhereas,youmightnotgetthat.Oneofthethingsthatreallypissmeoff,whenIwaslivinginahousethathadwaterdamage,hadtoxicmouldinitandIwashavingallkindsofstuffhappentomyhealth.Iendedupdoingadocumentaryaboutthisreallycommonproblem.

Bytheway,oneofthebigproblemswasribswouldbecome...Theypopoutofmyupperback,myribheadswouldpopoutofmyspine,itwasterriblypainful.Thiswouldactuallyhappeninresponsetotoxinsandallthiscrazystuffwasgoingon.IwenttothedoctorandIhadalltheseweirdsymptomsincludingtheseribheadspoppingoutandthingslikethat,andIstartedgainingweightagaineventhoughI’dlostabout50ofthe100poundsIneededtolose.

ThethingsthatIhaddonebeforeweren’tworking;Ijustfeltlikeazombieandhesaid,“Maybeyoushouldlosesomeweight,”andIsaid,“Yeah,that’sareallygoodidea.HowdoyourecommendIdothatbecausenothingworksandI’vetriedallthesethings?”Hegoes,“Youshouldtryeatingahealthydiet,”andIwaslikeIwantedtokillhim.I’mlike,“Really?Butlikethat’sallyouhaveforme?”

ComparedtothechiropractorsI’veseen,theywouldhaveatleastsaid,“Youcouldtrythis,youcouldtrythat,youcouldtrynoteatingstuffthat’sinflammatory.”Iwasblownaway,butthatleadsmeto,assumingeveryonelisteningnow,understands,allright,you’relikelytogetamoreholisticpointofviewfromachiropractorthanyouarefromyourGPalthough,ifyouhaveabrokenbone,youmightwanttogotoyourGP.Bothpracticesareveryuseful.


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Ialsowantedtoaskyouaquestion.Oneis,Iamsensitivetolectins,thenightshadevegetables,

atleastsomeofthem.WhenIeatoneofmyfavoritefoodswhichisNewMexicogreenchili,IgrewupinAlbuquerque,NewMexico,Ineverknewthis.IjustalwayshadupperbackandneckpainandallbutoneofmyvertebraemovesahalfinchtothesideahalfhourafterIeatgreenchili.Itliterallyshifts.Whatthehell?Whydoesthathappen?Ifwepushthevertebraebackin,doesthatmeanIcaneatgreenchili?

Dr.Dan: Deed,I’llletyoustartoffthenI’llfinish.

Dr.Deed: Okay.Theperceptionthereisyoufeelthisissueandreally,whatyou’refeelingis,it’samusclespasm,it’sanerveirritationthat’sdrivenbyanorganirritation.Wecallitvisceralsomaticreflexes.It’sbeenknownforalong,longtimethatorgansjustdon’tdowhattheydoontheirown.Theycommunicateviathecentralnervoussystemandperipheralnervoussystemtothebrainandtheysay,“Heybrain,somethingbadisgoingonhere,”andthenbraintriestodosomethingstoo.

Thenthere’sthiscrosscircuitthatgoesfromtheorgantothespineandtothemuscles.Whenyouhaveavisceralirritationfromeatingwhateverfooditis,you’regoingtohavespinalconsequences.It’snodifferentthanapersonthat’shavingaheartattack;feelingchestpainorarmpainornumbnessandtinglinginthehand.It’savisceralsomaticreflex.Theadjustmentwillhelpquietthatdownbuttherealityofitisit’sdrivenbythevisceralsysteminthatcase,soyouneedtonoteatthatfoodagain.That’stherealityofit.

Dr.Dan: Ithink,yeah,that’sagreatexplanation,howeverythingisjustintricatelyconnected.Likewise,it’stheconversationthatchiropractorswillhavewiththeirpatients.Ifapatientcomesin,forexample,withathyroidissueoraliverissueorthey’refeelingtired,fatiguedortheyhavehashimotothyroiditisorgraves’diseaseoranyoneoftheseconditionsorareflex,theconversationalwayshastogobacktowhatDr.Deedwassaying,isthatthereisadirectsomaticvisceral,visceralsomaticinfluenceasareflexoritcouldbeflexive[inaudible00:41:11]goingoninthereneurologically.

Forexample,someonehasbeendiagnosedwithathyroidissue.Theconversationthechiropractormaybringupduringaconsult,anexam,wouldbethat,“Well,let’slookatthenervesinthebackthatarecomingout,forexample...Whatshouldwelookat?Lookatthe,uh,theliver.Isthenerveinnovation,thenerveconnection,thespinal...Thepartofthespinethatcontrolstheliver,isitgettinginformationthere?Istheliverevengettingrightneurologicalcontrol?”

Becauseifyouhaveathyroidproblem,well,weknowthatover60%ofT4isconvertedtoT3intheliver.Whathappensifyou’renotgettingnervesupplyorsignalstoyourliver?Itdoesn’tmatterandyoucouldbecompletelyoffbalance;youmayneverhealorgetbetterfromathyroidissueifyoudon’thavegoodnervesupplyandfunctionstotheliverorthestomach.BetweenT5andT9,that’stheprimarygastricdistribution,neurologicaldistributiontothestomach.


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Weknowthatyouhavetohavegoodnervesupplyforeverythinggoingoninthestomachincludinghydrochloricacid,youneedhighlevelsofacidinthestomachtodigestfood,breakdownproteins,gettotheB12,gettotheminerals,gettothevitaminsandallthat,andifyoucan’tgettotheminerals,especiallythingslikezincandseleniumandalltheseotherthings,thenyoucan’tmakethyroidhormone,youcan’tconvertit.

Theimmunesystemisgoingtogetdrivendownandyou’regoingtohaveallthesecomplicationsacrosstheboardincludingT8,9,10,theadrenalcommunication.Again,thechiropractorislookingateverything,notjustdiseaseconditionsbutjusttobeginwith,startwiththefoundation,islifeflowingfromthebrainthroughthespineoverthesenervesandbringingtotheseorganstobeginwithandhasanydoctorevercheckedthat?

Notthattherearen’totherconsiderationsgoingondownstream,butjuststartingupstreamandhelpingthepatient;facilitatingthatunderstandingofconnectingthedotsanditallstartswithfunction,nervesystemisfine,that’swhereachiropractorwillstart.Evenifit’ssomeonelikemewhofocusesheavilyonnutritionandorganphenomenon,you’vestillgottoupstreamtothespineandlookatthatvisceralsomatic,somaticvisceraldealthere.

Dave: Peopleoftentimesdon’tknowaboutsomethingcalledeventcorrelation.WhereIcomefrominhightech,there’swholesystemsthatwe’vedevelopedthatarearoundlookingateventsthathappeninonsystemandthencorrelatingthemwitheventsinanother.Weusethislineincomputersecurity.Weusethisalotinfiguringoutwhensomeonecomestoawebsite,whataretheygoingtodonext.

Onthehumanbody,there’sthiswholebunchofeventcorrelationthingsandIjustbroughtupthisexampleofone.WhenIeatX,Yhappensinmyspineandprobablyabunchofotherstuffhappensliketheytelltherewasinflammationandthere’schangesinbloodclotting,thingsthathappenedbecauselectinsareapartofthatwholestory.Weknowthat’sgoingonandthat’soneinsatiablething,andIfindthatthebestcliniciansareusuallysubconsciouslyorconsciouslyreallygoodeventcorrelationmachines.

SomeoftheeventsthatI’veseenmeasuredinsomechiropractorofficesthatarefascinatingtomeare...Well,clearlyx-rays,youcanseealignment,butI’vealsojustathermalgraph,apictureofinfraredcomingoffthespine.Infact,youcangeta$300camerathatgoesinyouriPhoneanddothepoorman’sversionbutyoucanactuallysee.There’sapartofthespinethat’shotterthantheotherpartsofthespine.What’sgoingonthereandwhydoesitmatter?

Dr.Dan: Well,I’llletDr.Deedgetintomoreofthesciencebehindit,butweusethermalimaging,weuseEMG.There’sacompanycalledChiropracticLeadershipAlliance,Dr.PatrickGentempowhohadcreatedthis...There’sawholepackageoftheinsighttechnologywhichcombinesactually,andyou’llfindthisfascinating,heartratevariability,thermalimaging,EMG,it’salsogotacoupleotherthingsthat...There’srangeofmotionsdigitallyandalgometrytotesting.

Theyactuallycombineallthescoresfromtheseandcreateawellnessscore,butthermography,whatit’sreadingisheatdifferentialsindifferentareasofthespinethatarerelatedtovasoconstriction,vasodilation.Ofcourse,thenervoussystemiscontrollingthediameterofthe


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arteriesaroundthespine.Whenwerunathermalimageorascanoftherollersofthespine,itcanshowindirectlybecauseoftheheatdifferential,itcanbeindirectlyinterpretedorsecondarilyinterpretedasaneurologicaldisturbanceinthatarea.

That’sjustoneofthetoolsthatweuseinourofficealongwithseveral...Especiallyx-raysbeingprimarytoidentifywhereastheprimarybiomechanical,neurologicalimpediments,interferences.Justonemorewayoflookingatthebodysoyeah,it’safascinatingtechnology.Alotofchiropractorsareusingit.

Dave: Cool.Deed,whatdoyouthink?

Dr.Deed: Alltheseoutcomemeasuresareveryimportant.Itpaintsapictureofthereissometypeofdisturbancetothesystem.There’sasymmetry,there’sasymmetryinheat,there’sasymmetryinmuscleactivity,there’sanalterationinvisceralfunctionwithheartratevariabilityetc.That’stheclinicalsideofit,weknowthat.Thechallengeiswhatdoesthatmeanscience-wiseandresearch-wise.

It’sreallyhardtoputthatintoresearchcontext,forexample,toplaytheskeptic.TheissueishowlongdoesittaketonormalizetemperaturedifferentialsinthebodywhenIdoathermographyscan?Well,youhavetobeinacontainedroomwithnoairflowandit’sgottobethesametemperature.Thepatienthastobeinthenudefor20minutestonormalizetheirbodiesoveralltemperatureacrosstheskinbecauseifIsitdown,ifIleanononeside,ifItouchastructurewithmyarm,I’mgoingtogetatemperaturedifferential.

We’vegotthis,again,thisinterplaybetweentheresearchproblemandtheclinicalinterpretation.Thereality,Ithinkthecliniciandoesn’treallycare,wejustknowthere’saproblem.Theclinicianlooksatthisandsays,“You’vegotthefollowingproblemwithyourwellnessscore,”likeDr.Danbroughtup.“Allthesethingsputtogether,theyshowmethereisaproblemsomewhere.Let’sseeifwecannormalizethisandlet’sseewhathappens.”

Dave: Thatmakesgoodsense.ItmadethinkabouthowIcouldspeedupthat20minutes.ThereareabunchofchiropractorsthatusetheBulletproofVibe,theWholeBodyVibrationplatformthatImakeintheirpractice.AreyouguysfansofWholeBodyVibrationornotfansandcouldn’tlikeshakingthebodyup,likegettingthingsmovingalittlemorequickly?

Dr.Dan: Well,Igot8oftheminmyofficeandIknowDeed’sgot...He’sgotawholecollectionofthemtoo.

Dave: Ididn’tknowthat,that’scool,allright.

Dr.Deed: Yeah,I’msorry.I’vegot8PowerPlates,that’swhatIuse,thePowerPlatePro7s,so-

Dave: Yeah,thosearereallynicemachines.

Dr.Deed: Yeah.Weusethemfor2things.Number1,weuseitinactualfitnessclassesthatwedo,atruefunctionalmovementfitnessclasswithpropertrainers.Thenwealsouseitforspine


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rehabilitationandinjuries,sohugefanofWholeBodyVibration.

Dave: Now,whydoyoulikethat?Alotofpeopleasklike,“Dave,you’recrazy.Youhavethis,thisthingonyourwebsite,it’snotcoffee,it’snotasupplement,likebecauseitsortofkicksassandit’snotatthesamelevelasthePowerPlate.”ThePowerPlateisextremelyniceandclinicallyexpensive,butI’mcompletelyafanofitbecauseitmovesintherightaxis.Whydoesitworkforfunctionalmovement?I’msurepeoplearesayingwhat...Becausemostpeoplehaveneverevenheardofthisstuff,whatdoesitdothat’sspecialwhenyou’reworkingwithsomeoneonmovement?

Dr.Deed: Yeah.WholeBodyVibrationisreallyinteresting.It’sacceleratingyouatdifferentGforcesoratdifferentintensitiesmultipliedbygravity.LikethePowerPlate,forexample,that’stheoneI’mtrainedin,that’stheoneIuse.WiththePowerPlate,Icansetitat1G,2Gs.3Gs,allthewayupto8Gs.WhatthatmeansisI’mtrainingyoueitherat1timestheaccelerationofgravityorintheextremesetting,8timestheaccelerationofgravity.

That’salotofaccelerationandwhatyourbodyhastodowhenyou’reonthePowerPlate,yourbodyhastocontractandcoordinateitsorientationundergravitytothesewholebodyvibrations.IhavehighaccelerationandIalsohavesomeamplitudeintherethat’sgoingupanddownaswellasleftandright,forwardandbackwards.Itcreateswhat’scalledperturbationstothesystemmeaningit’screatinginstabilityinyoursystem.

Yourbodythenhastocontractandcontroltheseperturbationsandmaintainstabilityinanunstableenvironment.Whatitdoesisittriggersaneurologicalaswellasaphysiologicalresponseoutofbone,musclesetc.,andyou’re...Basically,whatyou’redoingisretrainingyourbody’smovement,you’reretrainingyourbody’sbalance,you’reincreasingthestrengthoftheconnectivetissueandyou’reincreasingthedensityofthebone,andsoyoudothoseallsimultaneously.

WholeBodyVibrationisreallyanamazingtool.ThelastthingI’llsayaboutitandI’llturnitovertoyouguysis,mostpeople,theygotothegymandwelookattheforceequation.Forceismasstimesacceleration.Whenyougotothegymandtheguyorthegalputsmass,weightintheirhand,andsothey’reincreasingforceontheirbodybyincreasingmass.

Well,we’veforgottenabouttheAsideoftheequation.Aistheacceleration,that’swhatthePowerPlatesoranyWholeBodyVibrationsystemdoes.ItworksontheAsideoftheforceequalsmasstimesaccelerationpartoftheequation.

Dave: VerywellsaidandIjustnoticedhugedifferences,notjustmusclebutmorelymphaticandcirculation,andI’mabigenoughfantogooutandgetonemade.IbrokesomeofthereallycheaponesprobablybecauseI’m200pluspounds.Now,we’rerunningupontheendoftheshowhereandIwantachancetoaskbothofyouthesignaturequestionforBulletproofRadio.Dan,let’sstartwithyou.

Ifsomeonecametoyoutomorrowandsaid,“Look,IwanttokickmoreassateverythingIdo.Iwanttobebetteratbeinghuman.”Whatarethe3mostimportantpiecesofadviceyouhave


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forme?Whatwouldyousay?

Dr.Dan: Well,getadjusted,regularlyhaveyourspinecheckedbecauseit’saboutperformance.It’snotaboutsicknessanddiseasenecessarily.Chiropractic,it’sabout...That’swhywetakecareofkidsandbabies,theoneswhoarechallengedwithissues,butIdelivered,likeyourself,Ideliveredmybabiesathome,myBellandmyJuliet,withamidwifesupervisingandIcheckedtheirspinesimmediately.

They’vegrownstrongandhealthyovertheyearshereandthat’sit.It’sreallybulletproofingourkidsfirstbutchiropractichastheabilityofbulletproofingyouinawaytoreallypreventmanyissuesdowntheroad;togiveyouagreatqualityofhealth,greatqualityoflifenowinsteadof...Beeproactiveinsteadofreactive.Beopen-minded,thisprogramthatwejustrecordedmayhavepresentedalotofnewpoints,newideasandparadigms,maybechallengedsomefolksoutthere.

Allinall,Ithinkthegreatestthingsisforyoutobeopen-mindedtonewideas,newconceptsandthat’stheonlywayyoucanlearnandgrow.ThenIthinkoneofthegreatestwaysto...Developastrongpurposeinlife.Becausemorethananything,that’sgoingtogetyouupinthemorning,giveyouenergy,giveyoufocusIthinkmorethananything.Likeyourself,youhaveastrongpurpose,youwanttoreachtheworldwithagreat,greatmessageandgreatcompanyandit’shelpingsomanypeople.

It’senergizing,sofindaverystrongpurposeservingothersandimprovingandaddingvaluetopeople’slives.Ithinkthat’soneofthegreatestwaysyoucanbiohack.

Dave: ThankyouandDeed,whatdoyousay?

Dr.Deed: That’sawesomeandIknowyousaid3butI’vegota4.

Dave: Allright,yougetabonusonejustbecauseyou’vewritten100papers.Every100papers,youget1extra.

Dr.Deed: ThisistheculturethatI’vesetupformyoffice.WhenItrainchiropractors,thisismyculture.Number1isbetterposture,betterspineequalsbetterhealth.That’snumber1formeasachiropractor.Yourspineandposturedictatethehealthofthehumanbody.Youlookatsomebody,“Yeah,thanksforsittingupstraightguys.”Youcanlookatsomebodywithoutevenknowingthemandyou’djudgetheminstantlyonhowhealthytheyarejustbytheirappearance,sobetterposture,betterspine,betterhealth.That’s1.

Number2isyouarewhatyoueatandthisisahugedeal.Youguyshavebothtouchedonthis.Ifyoudon’tfeedyourbodytherighttypeoffuelandputintherighttypesofnutrientsthataremissing,yourbodyisnotgoingtoheal,sonutritionanddiet,hugeroleandlotsunderthatumbrellaofcourse.Number3isifyoudon’tmove,youlose.Peoplearesodamnsedentarythatalotofthingsweseethatarehealthdisorders,it’ssimplybecauseyourbodyisbreakingdownduetolackofproperstrength,stabilityandmovement.You’vegottoexercise,you’vegottodoit.


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Thennumber4formeisyou’vegottofocusonyourpersonalandemotionalneeds.Whatthat

encompassesislifestylerelationships,personaltimeforyou,foryourfriends,foryourfamilyandconnectingwithotherhumanbeingsonthisplanet.Youknowthatwhenyou’reinacrappymood,ifsomebodycomestoyouthat’sinagreatmood,theypickyouupinstantly,theydo.

Conversely,you’reinagoodmood,somebodyisinacrappymood,theycanalsobringyoudown.Ifwealltrytoresonateatalittlebitofahigherenergylevel,thingswillimproveandwillbebetter.

Dave: Verywellsaid.Now,forlistenerswhoareinterestedincheckingoutmoreofwhatyou’redoingineachofyourclinicalpractices,DanYachter,whatistheURLtheyshouldgoto?

Dr.Dan: Theycangotoelevationhealth.comortheycanreachmedirectlyatdryachter@gmail.com.It’[email protected].

Dave: Now,yourealizeaquarterofamillionpeoplearelisteningtothis.Areyousureyouwantthemtoemailyou?

Dr.Dan: Well,actually,wecouldeditthatandjustputDr.Deed’semailintherebut...

Dave: Like-

Dr.Dan: No,Idon’tmind.It’sallgood.I’mheretohelpfolksandwecouldscreenthemoutifweneedto[inaudible00:56:45].

Dave: Allright,you’regoingtowantsomehelpwithyouremailifyougetit.

Dr.Dan: Idohavealsooneotherresourcetoanybodyoutthere,anyparentsouttherewhowanttolearnmoreaboutchiropracticpediatrics,whatitcandoforkids,howitcanhelpperformancecasestudies,moreresearch,additionalreferences,icpa4kids.org.ICPA,it’llbenumber4,kids.org.It’sagreatresourceforfolkstogetto,especiallyparentswithkids.

Dave: Thanks,andDeed,DeedHarrison,what’syourURL?

Dr.Deed: Yeah.Iwouldreallylovethelistenerstogotoidealspine.com,soideal,I-D-E-A-L,spine,S-P-I-N-E.com.That’saresourceforbothchiropractorsandforpatients.There’saconsumersidetoitandtheycanseesomeniceinformationaboutwhatchiropracticbiophysicsisallaboutfromaholistictreatmentapproach.

Dave: Allright.Ifyouenjoyedtoday’sshow,gotooneofthoseURLsandifyoudidn’tgetthose,don’tworryaboutitbecausethetranscriptforBulletproofRadioisavailableforfreeonbulletproofexec.com.Youcanreadeverythingwesaid,it’sentirelysearchableandyoucanclickonanypartofityoulikeanditwilltakeyoutojustthatsnippetonYouTube,soyoucanactuallyhearthatpartoftheconversationthatyoufound.


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It’soneofthefirstinteractivetranscriptsthatwasevenavailableonthewebthatwepioneeredthattechnology.It’scomingalongnicelywhereyoucanjustfindallthisinformationinanywaythatyouabsorbitbestbecauseit’sreallyimportantthatyoubeabletoseeit,anditincludestheURLsthatyoucangoto.I’dalsoloveitifyoucheckedoutwhereweareoniTunesandjustclicktheleaverreviewandsaywhatyouthinkaboutthisshow.

Thatreally,reallyhelpsandithelpsotherpeoplefindtheshowaswell.We’reregularlyrankednumber1oniTunesinthehealthandfitnesscategory,andI’mnotgoingtostoptillwe’renumber1rankedoniTunes,period.Whenwegetthere,I’mnotgoingtostopeitherbecauseI’mhavingfunandbecausethefeedbackthatcomesinfromtheshow,Iknowthatit’shelpingliterallymillionsofpeople.

Imentionedaquarterofamillionofyoumayhavelistenedtothisepisode.That’sjustinthefirstmonthortwo;pushingnow25milliondownloadsofBulletproofRadio.Thisisreachinghugenumbersofpeopleandit’shelpingthemandtheykeeplisteningbecauseitworks.Thankyouforlistening,thanksforyourtimetoday.Hopefully,yougotsomereallyvaluablestufffromtheshowandIlookforwardtoseeingyouonthenextone.

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