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TPO – Long Term P fPerformance
A Panel Discussion
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Panel Members
Helene Hardy Pierce GAF MaterialsHelene Hardy Pierce – GAF Materials CorporationDwayne Wacenske – Firestone BPTom Taylor – GAF Materials CorporationCo po at oRandy Ober – Carlisle SyntecRene Dupuis – SRI Consultants
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Introduction
MRCA / NRCA Lab WorkMRCA / NRCA Lab WorkMRCA 2005 TPO Field StudyMRCA TPO Advisory 2010
Response to localized high solar or thermal loading issuesg
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4 Year Old TPO Sample (Test Cut 1) Softening Point of Thermoplastics
PP
-5
0
5
Hea
t Flo
w E
ndo
Up
(mW
)
Onset = 150.8ºF
Peak = 176.9ºF
Onset = 294.6ºF
Peak = 316.9ºF PE
-10
5
115 135 155 175 195 215 235 255 275 295 315 335 355 375 395
Temperature (ºF)
Area = 16.5 mJDelta H = 1.736 J/g
Area = 160.5 mJDelta H = 16.9 J/g
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0
5
New TPO Sample
-10
-5
Hea
t Flo
w E
ndo
Up
(mW
)
Onset = 219.0ºF
Peak = 238.1ºF
Onset = 260.0ºF
Peak = 285.3ºF
PEPP
-15115 135 155 175 195 215 235 255 275 295 315 335 355 375 395
Temperature (ºF)
Area = 28.1 mJDelta H = 2.7 J/g
Area = 64.0 mJDelta H = 6.1 J/g
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MRCA TPO ADVISORY 2010
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If situations exist that may commonly elevate temperatures over 160 degrees or increase solar loads beyond “ l” i i l l d ti“normal” incoming solar load, question the manufacturer as to the suitability of their product for the situation; consider changing the product to a material that will clearly withstand the loading; consider changes in design to forestall the loading.
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Helene Hardy Pierce – GAF Materials Corporation
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Historical Background
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History of TPO…Europe since late 1980’spU.S….
First generation late 1980’s as a “thermoplastic elastomer” Marketed as “thermoplastic
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p(poly)olefins” since very early 1990’s
Approaching 20 years in-service…
Think About Types of Adopters…
Technology Enthusiasts/VisionariesTechnology Enthusiasts/Visionaries (innovators)
Pragmatists (early majority)Conservatives (late majority)Skeptics (laggards)
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p ( gg )
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The U.S. Commercial Membrane Roofing Market
2009-2010 Estimate
32%25%
Other SinglePlyAsphaltic
TPO
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43%
Source: Consensus of the three manufacturers on this panel and values are provided as an indicator of relative market use
Almost 20 Years…
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Yet Still, Many Consider…
TPO =
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So How Have We “Looked At” TPO?
The first part of a multi-year research project… published in 1998
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Strength/elongation andStrength/elongation and thermogravimetry to evaluate in-service TPO membranesCompared with the proposed properties in the “draft” TPO standard
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Proposed improvements to the draft standard
More Recently…
18 Months ago at the 2009 IRE…
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UV/Artificial aging workAlgae/fungus resistanceWelding optimizationCompatibility of adhesives with TPO
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membranes
Over Time
Most should be familiar with the WSRCA 7
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year TPO study…
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White 60 mil TPO membranesTest patches show weldability after agingShowing good in-service performance
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Showing good in-service performanceIn general, all seams are performing well
Owner Generated L kLook
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11 TPO, PVC, KEE, and EV single ply membranes –subjected to long-term UV exposure
“On average, the TPO membranes have a greater propensity for retaining physical properties when
d t PVC KEE d EV b
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compared to PVC, KEE, and EV membranes. Substantial variations, however, were observed within the TPO group.”
Dwayne Wacenske –Firestone Building Products
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EVO UTION OF THE ASTMEVOLUTION OF THE ASTM STANDARD FOR TPO MEMBRANE
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ASTM
ASTM members include:ASTM members include:Producers (including chemical companies)Users – ContractorsGeneral Interest – UL, FM, NRCA, Consultants
ASTM is a consensus organization e gASTM is a consensus organization, e.g. there can be no persuasive negative votes
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ASTM Standard for TPO
Work started in the early ‘90s to createdWork started in the early 90s to created a TPO StandardIt took over 10 years and 36 drafts to come to a consensus.ASTM D6878 was finally published in S 68 8 as a y pub s ed2003.
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ASTM D6878
Standard for TPO Roofing MembranesStandard for TPO Roofing MembranesSpecifies:
DimensionsPhysical propertiesDurabilityy
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Physical Properties
Breaking StrengthBreaking Strength Elongation at BreakTearing StrengthBrittleness PointWater AbsorptionWater Absorption
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Dimensions
The standard providesThe standard providesMinimum thickness of 39 milsMinimum thickness over the scrim of 12 milsTolerances for width and length are +3% -0%0%
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Durability PropertiesOzone ResistanceOzone ResistanceHeat Aging
Oven temperature is 116°C (240°F)Duration is 28 days
Weather ResistanceXenon arc apparatusChamber temperature is 80°C (176°F)Exposure is 10,080 kJ/m²This was increased from 5,040 in 2006
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Durability TestsTPO EPDM PVC KEE
ASTM Standard D6878 D4637 D4434 D6754X AXenon ArcTemperature 80°C 80°C 63°C 63°CHours @ 0.35 W/m² 8,000 4,000 5,000 5,000Oven AgingTemperature 116°C 116°C 80°C 80°CDays 28 28 56 56
Note: The Arrhenius equation predicts that for every 10°C rise in temperature, the chemical reaction rate doubles.Thus, 28 days at 116°C is equivalent to 340 days at 80°C.
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Summary of D6878
Adopted in 2003Adopted in 2003In 2006, weathering requirement was doubled.2008 – Clarification was made on the Water Absorption test methodate bso pt o test et od2010 – Evaluating increase in Heat Aging requirements
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Tom Taylor – GAF Materials Corporation
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Predictors to Long Term Performance
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Overview…White TPO membranes are generally performing wellperforming well
There have been examples of TPO aging faster than predicted
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We will look at what causes TPO to age, and why there is a push to raise the standard
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Sunlight… Is it just about UV?
There are 3 parts –Visible light
Helps us to see
HeatKeeps us warm
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Ultraviolet (UV)Gives us a tan, if we’re carefulBurns us if we are not careful…or worse!
So…
We all know UV is badWe all know UV is bad
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But…
We didn’t think that heat was badWe didn t think that heat was bad.
So what changed ?
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So what changed…?
Field Performance!
As TPO installations have grownAs TPO installations have grown exponentially, the small percentage of premature aging issues has become a noticeable number
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Why would a TPO membrane fail earlier than expected?
These roofs have a few things in common. Either
Nearby highly reflective surfacesor
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orBuild up of dark dust and debris
One Example……………
This was white TPO..
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...covered with blackdust
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Temperatures as high as 180°F !
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Premature Failure…
Erosion downto the scrim!
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!!!
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It got us thinking -…what about solar?
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Between panels…180°F
Under the black edge…200°F
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TPO is getting far hotter than we
Connecting the Dots……..
TPO is getting far hotter than we anticipated
High heat appears to be aging membranes quickly
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Let’s investigate and improve…
What About Oven Aging?
Testing at 200°F may take yearsTesting at 200 F may take years
300°F is getting close to the melt temperature of some of the polymers
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240oF is what’s in the standard
Let’s look at the highest possible temperature…
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80 mil TPO – 280°F Exposuretime to cracking…A
(2008)B
(2008)C
(2009)D
(2008)E
(2009)40 days 40 days 87 days
(80 days -1stcrack on cap)
68 days 48 days
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60 mil TPO – 280°F Exposuretime to cracking…
A(2008)
B(2009)
C(2009)
D(2009)
E(2009)( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( )
40 days 91 days(54 days -1st crack)
77 days 28 days 20 days
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45 mil TPO – 280°F Exposure time to cracking…
A(2008)
B(2005)
C(2008)
D(2009)
E(2008)
F(2008)
G(2009)
40 days 28 days 40 days 107 days 82 days 54 days 20 days
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So, what does this tell us?Large differences exist between manufacturersLarge differences exist between manufacturers
Some of the earliest failures seem to correlate with failures in the field
Was 280°F too high…?
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Let’s look at this temperature compared to the 240oF in the current standard…
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240 versus 280 data…a fairly good correlation!
600
R2 = 0.8803
300
400
500
s to
Cra
ckin
g in
240
F
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100
200
10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90
Days to Cracking in 280F
Day
s
So, what’s the right standard?280°F 240°F
(X) (Y)
Oven Aging
Product (and
Actual Days to Crack(X) (Y)
A, 45mil 20 212B, 45 mil 28 229C, 60 mil 31 212D, 80 mil 34 212E, 60 mil 37 296F, 80 mil 40 296G, 80 mil 48 344
(and thickness)
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G, 80 mil 48 344H, 80 mil 68 399I, 60 mil 76 399J, 80 mil 80 369 – no cracking
yetK, 60 mil 85 392 – no cracking
yet
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We can also predict how long it will take to crack due to heat aging…
280°F 240°F 240°F 200°F Predicted Days to Crack
Oven Aging
Product Actual Days to Crack(X) (Y)
A, 45mil 20 212 200 941B, 45 mil 28 229 232 1017C, 60 mil 31 212 244 941D, 80 mil 34 212 255 941E, 60 mil 37 296 267 1314F, 80 mil 40 296 279 1314G, 80 mil 48 344 311 1527
Predicted Days to CrackProduct (and
thickness)
Actual Days to Crack
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H, 80 mil 68 399 389 1772I, 60 mil 76 399 421 1772J, 80 mil 80 369 – no cracking
yet437 1939
K, 60 mil 85 392 – no cracking yet
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Let’s put it in field exposure terms…
280°F 240°F 240°F 200°F Predicted Years
200°F Field Exposure
Predicted Days to Crack
Oven Aging
Product Actual Days to Crack(X) (Y) (assuming
6 hrs/day at 200F)A, 45mil 20 212 200 941 10B, 45 mil 28 229 232 1017 11C, 60 mil 31 212 244 941 10D, 80 mil 34 212 255 941 10E, 60 mil 37 296 267 1314 14F, 80 mil 40 296 279 1314 14G, 80 mil 48 344 311 1527 17
(and thickness)
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H, 80 mil 68 399 389 1772 19I, 60 mil 76 399 421 1772 19J, 80 mil 80 369 – no cracking
yet437 1939 21
K, 60 mil 85 392 – no cracking yet
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280°F 240°F 240°F 200°F Predicted Years
200°F Field Exposure
Predicted Days to Crack
Oven Aging
Product Actual Days to Crack
So what is right for an oven aging standard?
(X) (Y) (assuming 6 hrs/day at 200F)
A, 45mil 20 212 200 941 10B, 45 mil 28 229 232 1017 11C, 60 mil 31 212 244 941 10D, 80 mil 34 212 255 941 10E, 60 mil 37 296 267 1314 14F, 80 mil 40 296 279 1314 14G, 80 mil 48 344 311 1527 17
(and thickness)
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,H, 80 mil 68 399 389 1772 19I, 60 mil 76 399 421 1772 19J, 80 mil 80 369 – no cracking
yet437 1939 21
K, 60 mil 85 392 – no cracking yet
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Suspected field issuesProposed safe zone – 50+ days at 280°F
Heat Aging…Let’s recap…
What should the test temperature be?What should the minimum test time be?
Any test should be complete in a reasonable time…days not years
280°F is aggressive, shows differences, enables manufacturers to rapidly test
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56 day minimum will prevent early failures
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So, is that it…?
Not Quite…Not Quite…
Further questions are:How precisely do we need to hold at 280F?Do different labs get the same results
A round robin is clearly warranted
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And let’s not forget…
What about UV AND Heat?
We’ve looked at UV aging followed by Heat Aging
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Its really telling us how much stabilizer is left after UV exposure…
QUV exposure=14251 kJ/m2
100po
sure
40
60
80
king
in 2
80F
afte
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V Ex
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QUV exposure=32516 kJ/m2
0
20
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 160 180
Days to Cracking in 280F
Day
s to
Cra
ck
UV + Heat has a strong correlation toUV + Heat has a strong correlation to Heat Aging alone…
Is there a way to look at accelerated field testing to verify the accelerated lab
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test g to e y t e acce e ated abtesting?
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Enter the UAWS*
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* Ultra Accelerated Weathering System (Atlas Material Testing)
UAWS29 reflectors –29 reflectors
Can heat to the polymer melting point!
UV level is 17,000 MJ/m2/yearSouth Florida sees 280 MJ/m2/year!
So 6 months at UAWS could predict 25 to 30
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So, 6 months at UAWS could predict 25 to 30 years in south Florida!
Let’s take a look…
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So, how hot does UAWS get?
200
220F
TPO Maxi Surface Temp on Atlas UAWS, AZ
80
100
120
140
160
180
Max
imum
Tem
pera
ture
Maxi Ambient Temp AZ
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60
3/28/2009 5/17/2009 7/6/2009 8/25/2009 10/14/2009 12/3/2009 1/22/2010 3/13/2010 5/2/2010
M Maxi Ambient Temp - AZ
Right up at levels that cause issues!
Preliminary Results…We loaded TPO with stabilizers…
TUVR, MJ/m2 South Florida Equivalence
280°F Heat Aging
60 mil 13,441 48 years 154 days
80 mil 12 374 44 years 184 days
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80 mil 12.374 44 years 184 days
These stabilizers are the advanced stabilizers being used today!
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So, what’s the message?
Heat aging is telling us how robustHeat aging is telling us how robust these membranes are!Exceptional heat aging ability equates to exceptional UV aging
M b h b h
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Membranes that pass a robust heat aging standard are going to perform well under all conditions!
So, Let’s Put it all Together
UV Aging the standard has been improvedUV Aging – the standard has been improvedTesting shows everyone is easily meeting/beating D6878No evidence has been found for field failures in high UV conditions
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But…
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Heat aging shows large differences between membranesmembranesHeat is now known to be causing some early aging of membranes in the fieldHigh temperature aging appears to predict general life expectancy of membranes
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So, what should the standards be?
Randy Ober – Carlisle Syntec
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Raising the Bar for TPO Membrane Performance
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“RAISING THE BAR” FORRAISING THE BAR FOR TPO ROOFING MEMBRANE PERFORMANCE
ASTM D6878December 2009
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ASTM D6878
TPO StandardTPO StandardHeat AgingRequirements
28 days @ 240º28 days @ 240º F
Samples Heat-Aged at 275°F
7 WEEKS(26 WEEKS @240 F)
6 WEEKS(18 WEEKS @240 F)
3 WEEKS(16 WEEKS @240 F)
15 WEEKS(59 WEEKS @240 F No Failure)
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Proposal to ASTM Task Group
Add “ t ” h t i i t ithiAdd “extreme” heat aging requirements within ASTM D6878 to 275 degrees FIncrease heat aging duration to minimum 8 weeks (56 days) without cracking around 3” mandrelIncrease the performance of the TPO industryIncrease the performance of the TPO industry
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Does heat aging at 275 F change the mechanismDoes heat aging at 275 F change the mechanism for failure?Higher the temp, the less likely the heat aging test will represent real life…Could analytical tests be conducted on heat aged samples (tested at different temps to determine if failure mechanisms are the same)?What sort of heat aging data is available?
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June 2010 ASTM Task Group
Does heat aging at 275 F change the mechanismDoes heat aging at 275 F change the mechanism for failure?Higher the temp, the less likely the heat aging test will represent real life…Could analytical tests be conducted on heat aged samples?What sort of heat aging data is available?
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Should 240 F be used just at a longer duration?What duration should be required?Can additional test data be generated?
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180
200
275 F Heat Aging Data
40
60
80
100
120
140
160
Lab A
Lab B
Lab C
0
20
40
A 45 mil
A 60 mil
B 60
mil
B 80
mil
C 45
mil
D 60 mil
D 80 mil
E 45
mil
F 60
mil
F 80
mil
G 60 mil
G 80 mil
H 60 mil
H 80 mil A B C D E F A B C D
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Task group conference callHeat aging data reviewedRound robin heat aging testing initiatedBallot has been issued for heat aging at 275 F / 56 days
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Dwayne Wacenske –Firestone Building Products
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INSTALLATION PRACTICES THAT AFFECT SINGLE-PLY PERFORMANCE
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Installation Practices
Installation practices affect the long-termInstallation practices affect the long term performance of the roofing system.Initially the roof may be fine, but some problems can arise years later.With thermoplastic membranes, these practices usually relate to the hot-airpractices usually relate to the hot air welding of the seams.This applies to both TPO and PVC.
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Test WeldsAt least twice dailyy
Start of the day After lunchWhenever the machine is restarted
ProcedureWeld scrap membraneAllow the seam to coolPull the seam apartCheck for proper weldCheck for drag marks
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Weld Failure ModesCohesive FailureFails within one plies
Adhesive FailureFails between the 2 plies
Good Weld
Bad Weld
Excessive Heat
Overheating the membrane byOverheating the membrane byAir temperature too highWelder speed too low
Excessive heat during the welding process can consume polymer p p ystabilizer, then it is not available for long-term stabilization.
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Ideal Welder Settings
Lowest temperature that providesLowest temperature that provides consistent cohesive failures (Good Seams) at production speeds
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Welder Drag
Improper alignmentImproper alignment of the hot-air nozzle can create gouges in the membrane outside of the seam.These marks can
Drag Lines
These marks can lead to issues in the future.
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Proper Nozzle Alignment
NozzleNozzle should be as
close as possible and parallel to the
roller
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Inside edge of nozzle should be aligned with the edge of the roller.
Probing Seams
Care must be taken when Probing SeamsCare must be taken when Probing SeamsUse a blunt probeProbes sharpen with use and must be occasionally dulled
Using a sharp probe can scar the membrane in a vulnerable area – the seamsKeep the tip of the probe horizontal
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Scars from ProbingCross Section of Membrane
Welding Walk Pads
Care must be taken toCare must be taken to not overheat membrane when welding walk padsThickness of walk pads does not always
i hrequire extra heat to get a good weldPerform test welds
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Creases in the Membrane
Hard creases made during installationHard creases made during installation can result in surface cracks in the membrane years later.Membrane can be folded back for applying adhesive or fasteners, but weight should not be placed on the fold to hold it in place.
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Avoiding CreasesDon’t place weight on the
foldDo place the weight away
from the fold
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Result of CreasingFrom the Western States Test Roof in San Antonio after 7 years
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Surface Crazing
Damage to the Membrane
Care must be taken to prevent damageCare must be taken to prevent damage to the surface of the membrane
Do not drag equipment over the membraneUse cover boards under generators or other equipment to prevent damage
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Summary
Localized High Heat Issues Can OccurLocalized High Heat Issues Can Occur In The Field UnintentionallyReviewed History of TPO Issues
Lab and Field StudyAdvisoryy
History of TPO Evolution of the ASTM Standard for TPO Membrane
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Summary
Predictors for Long Term PerformancePredictors for Long Term PerformanceModifying the Current ASTM Standard
Proposed Increases in Time and Temperature for Heat Aging
Field Installation Techniques and Good qPractices
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Questions?
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