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The Anglo-Saxon Mission

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The Anglo-Saxon Mission :the Third World War and

the Inheritance of the New World

February 2010

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Historians tell us that the "Anglo-SaxonMission" refers to the spread of Christianity in the 8th century. But overa thousand years later, there is nowanother, far more sinister meaning tothe phrase.

We recently received 11 pages of information from an insider who wasphysically present at a meeting of SeniorMasons in the City of London in 2005.What was discussed is chilling to thebone.

I (Bill) did an audio interview with oursource, an Englishman whose identitywe have verified with all details knownand confirmed. This man, like many we have spoken with, is no longer able to live with his conscience or to keep thisinformation secret.

My original idea was to release a transcript of the interview, as we have done in the past. But the material it covers isso critical - and, for me, the missing pieces it provided were so important - that I've taken the step to present theinformation on video. The audio transcript with our source, who is not on the video, is available here .

What our source reports is this:

• There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our source believes that this ison track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.

• It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclearresponse. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear andchaos - all carefully engineered.

• The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military controls in all western first

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world nations. Plans are already in place for that.

• During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These willinitially be targeted against the Chinese. As our source chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold".Biological warfare will spread further, to the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.

• This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the"real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our source tells us that the planned populationreduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting.

This horrific scenario has been planned for generations. The first two world wars were part of the set-up for this final

apocalypse - as is the centralization of financial resources that was precipitated with the equally well-plannedfinancial collapse of October 2008.

As if all this were not enough, our source speculates this is all set against the backdrop of a coming "geophysicalevent" - the same kind of event as was experienced by our ancestors approximately 11,500 years ago. If this eventoccurs - not necessarily expected in 2012, but sometime in the next decade - it would destroy civilization as weknow it, dwarfing even the effects of a nuclear war.

I asked the question to our source: If there's an expected catastrophe, then why initiate a Third World War? Hisanswer, for the first time to me, made terrible sense.

The real goal, he explained, is to set up the post-catastrophic world. To ensure that this "New World" [note theterm] is the one the controllers want, totalitarian control structures need to be in place when the catastrophe occurs- with an excuse that the populace will accept and demand them. Martial law in the right, carefully chosen countriesbefore the catastrophe occurs will enable the "right" people to survive and prosper in the post-catastrophic world,

and the beginning of the next 11,500 year cycle. What may have been carefully planned on a covert global scale, forthe last several generations, is nothing less than who will inherit the Earth.

Who are the "right" people? The white Caucasians. This may be why the name of this project is The Anglo-SaxonMission. Hence the justification for the planned genocide of the Chinese people - so that the New World is inheritedby "us", not "them".

Our source was not informed about the planned fate of the second and third world countries such as those in SouthAmerica, Africa and Asia. But he presumes that these would be allowed to fend for themselves and probably notsurvive well - or maybe not at all. The totalitarian military governments of the western, white, people are set to bethe inheritors.

This is a plan so evil, so racist, so diabolical, so huge, that it almost defies belief. But it all aligns with what manycommentators, researchers and whistleblowing insiders have been identifying for some years now. For mepersonally, it's the clearest picture yet of why the world is the way it is, and why the secrets are protected so

fiercely: it may be all about racial supremacy. The Fourth Reich is alive and well.

Astonishingly, our source was not pessimistic. He stressed, as do we and many other researchers andcommentators, that consciousness is awakening rapidly all over the planet and that THESE PLANNED EVENTS ARENOT INEVITABLE. If ever there was a reason to work closely together to raise awareness of the real threat to us all,this is it.

Watch this video, listen carefully to the strong message of hope and encouragement, and spread it far and wide. Weplan to create subtitles in many languages - including Chinese. We stand for the potential magnificence of a unitedhumanity that knows no racial boundaries or distinctions. Whether or not the catastrophe occurs - and many,including ourselves, maintain that it will not - we must co-create our own future, claim our power, and do whateverwe can to alert people to the dangers around us... so that we can be stronger together, for the sake of ourdescendants and for the heritage of all living beings on Planet Earth.

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The Anglo-Saxon Mission:Witness Interview transcript

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The Anglo-Saxon MissionWitness Audio interview recorded January 2010

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BILL RYAN (B): I want to thank you for coming forwardwith what was immediately clear to me, once I'd readyour written debrief, that you have some highly significantinformation that needs to be shared. And it's our job atProject Camelot to assist you in reaching people who areaware enough to understand what you're saying, why it'simportant, and to put it in perspective with otherinformation that they may have.

And to introduce all of this, I wonder if you could saywhat it is that you're prepared to say on record about

your background, about your history... just in generalwhat you think is okay to share about how it is thatyou've actually been positioned to get a hold of theinformation that you're going to be reporting.

WITNESS (W): Okay. Well, the information I've sharedwith you already, I feel, it's not Earth-shattering. I feel it'ssomething that a lot of people will already have grasped with the amount of information that isgetting put out on the internet already.

If there's any uniqueness within the information that I'm providing to you, that I feel should beshared, is that it's first-hand information and it's given to you freely for those who wish to use itand to inform themselves. I think that that's my initial position on this.

For my part, I've spent a long time in the military and then held a senior position in the City of London, and within both institutions I became very intimate with events that were beingmanufactured secretly, covertly, on behalf of a group of people -- I can't say it's on behalf of anation or a community because it's certainly none of that -- but it's certainly something is to dowith a group of people whose interests lie within themselves and what they're doing to coerce aseries of events to happen.

Looking back with hindsight now, I can see quite clearly they're being most successful in doingwhat they're doing. And I feel, because of what I know, that time is running out for thesepeople.

So the timeline that I'm going to describe is somehow ... and that's an apt title, really, because atimeline starts somewhere and it ends somewhere and these people are very well aware of it.

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We're coming up to a critical time now, which everybody's discussing at the moment. I'm verywell aware of that. But the information I've brought may put some flesh on the bones for otherpeople to consider themselves.

And as for the veracity of it, I can only tell you that what I'm going to tell you is truthful, albeitlots of people may think it's a perception. I'm quite happy with that, too. But it's been myexperience, and it's that experience that I'm going to share.

B: Yes. What would be great is if you can differentiate between information which came at youfirst-hand when you were physically in meetings with some of these people, and other

information that you've got that was through more subjective means, which you may feel veryconfident in. It's important to separate out the provenance of the information. But for you, of course, and for many other people who will be reading this, it actually forms a coherent picture.Right?

W: Yes. I think that's important. I think anything like this has to be coherent. And of coursethere is a subjective element to it; I mean, I can't deny that. But, you know, all of it could belooked at as being subjective, but it's also from a witness point of view. Hopefully, how I'mgoing to describe it, people will be able to see through any subjective feelings I've got about itand get to the core of what's going on.

B: Right. Now, if you could just add a little bit of detail about the group that you referred to.Does this group have any kind of name that they're calling themselves? Is this a group that otherpeople reading this would recognize when cross-referencing information?

W: I've had difficulty myself in trying to describe these people. I've called them like a "Band of Brothers." I've also called them an "over-government". There's also other names I could callthem, some of them derogatory, and that would be deserved. [laughs] But I think the best way,the most sensible way to describe these people so that people can understand what they're like,is they're like an over-government, because that's what they're doing.

B: Are you talking about British people here, or international people?

W: The meeting that I will refer to later, it was all British, and some of them are very well knowncharacters who people in the United Kingdom will recognize immediately. Those who areinternational who might read this might have to do bit of research on them. But they are nationalfigures, some of them.

B: Are they political figures? Or are they figures in the "noble classes", so to speak?

W: Yes, there is a bit of aristocracy there, and some of them come from quite aristocraticbackgrounds. There's one who I identified at that meeting who is a senior politician. Two otherswere senior figures from the police, and one from the military. Both are known nationally andboth are key figures in advising the present government -- at this present time.

B: And inasmuch as there's a political component to this, does this political component goacross both parties?

W: No, this senior political component belongs to the right-wing party in Britain, theConservative Party.

B: Okay. For the benefit of American readers, that would be the equivalent of the Republicans.

W: Yes.

B: All right. So, it's an insider group that functions in Britain as many American readers of thistranscript would recognize by analogy -- it's like the American secret government. You're talkingabout politicians behind the scenes who are still very influential, links with the police, links withthe military. Are there also American military links in there?

W: Yes.

B: Okay.

W: One significant military figure, now retired, but active in advising government.

B: Okay. Are you aware of or did you hear any discussion of any participation by church


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authorities or the Vatican or any of the religions of the world? Was this mentioned as part of theirstrategic planning for all of this?

W: No. Not at all, but I know the Church of England, especially, is complicit in everything that'sgoing on, totally complicit.

B: Okay. And you know this because of the close relationship between senior figures in theChurch of England and the group that you met with in the City of London?

W: Absolutely. You don't need a forensic expert to find that one out. That's quite open.

B: Okay. Is this all fundamentally Masonic?

W: Absolutely. There's no question about that. Everybody is vetted through that process,through the Masonic process, and then they get to meet one another.

That's something that people need to understand. There are levels in Masonry. You know, mostMasons don't really know anything at all, and they're out there doing good work for the mostpart and they get the benefit of a kind of "club," as it were. But that goes through various levels.Some people call it by "degrees" or whatever. But it's a Who's Who. That is -- who can betrusted, who can be brought together, who's holding power, who's likely to develop more power.

And these people attract one another and they get together because they all have a single cause.But it's not exactly like a Masonic cause, you know. It's something that can be likened to it, butnot the same as it.

B: Could you explain that a little more clearly?

W: Well, I think the best way to explain this is: Masonry, is to my knowledge, is just a vehiclefor these people. It allows them to come together quietly, in secret, behind closed doors, get toknow one another, feel safe and secure knowing confidently that what's said in these meetingsgo no further than those meetings. So it's got that Masonic element to it, but this goes to anentirely different level altogether.

Now, the meeting that I'm talking about, I don't even consider these people to be a significantlevel -- significant enough for me at the time -- but they were discussing things that werealready agreed upon and planned and dictated. They were really getting together to shareinformation, to find out how well it was going and what was needed to keep it on track.

B: So things had already been decided at an even higher level than this. Is that what you'resaying?

W: That was very clear. From what I heard, they weren't a decision-making group. They werelike an action group. They were people who needed to come together now and then to discusstogether what needs to be done, or what is getting done, and what should be getting done. Andthen they disperse and go back and do what they need to do, as a result of these meetings.

B: Okay. And you attended one meeting?

W: Only one.

B: And in what capacity did you attend this meeting?

W: By sheer accident! I thought it was a normal three-monthly meeting because I looked at the

e-mail list, which had familiar names on it, and I was on it. But by that time, because of thesenior position I held within the City, I just thought it was quite normal for me to be earmarkedfor this kind of meeting.

So when I went to the meeting, it wasn't the same venue as before. It was a livery companyvenue, which is quite unusual, but not too unusual to wonder why. I went to this meeting and itwas not the meeting that I was expecting. I believe I was invited... it was because of theposition I held and because they believed that, like themselves, I was one of them.

B: So you were included because they already knew you. You were regarded as a safe pair of hands.

W: Absolutely. Yes. I was a safe pair of hands. I was a do-er. I was one of the people who, atmy level within the organization, got things done.


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B: Okay.

W: And I was regarded as that. Lots had known me for some time, even the most senior figureswithin them. I mean, it was first-name terms, that sort of thing. And I'd also been regularlyinvited to various functions, social functions, and things like that where I became familiar withsome of them and some of them became very familiar with me.

So it was easy-going, quite professional, nothing out of the ordinary, although bells started toring about what they were up to and what they were doing and the kind of decisions that theywere making, which by and large, I ignored . It seems unusual, but there was a part of me that

wanted to ignore what was going on.B: Are you saying that in this particular meeting we're talking about, the people who attendedthe meeting were familiar to you, largely, and you'd attended other meetings with them before;but this was a meeting with a difference because it was in a different location and with a differentagenda, although the delegates to the meeting were basically the same group? Is that whatyou're saying?

W: No, not exactly. I knew most of the attendees at the meeting, but not all. There were about25 or 30 people were at the meeting. And it was looked rather informal, you know, peoplegetting to know one another, re-acquainting themselves as people do. There was nothingunusual about that. It was when the subjects started to come up that my astonishment startedto rise at what was being said.

B: Was it like a formal chaired meeting around a table, with notes and water glasses, and all of that kind of stuff?

W: None of the sort. There were no notes taken -- nothing. It was really a behind-closed-doorsmeeting with people talking over one another, some people holding the audience, spelling outwhat their concerns were, catapulting onto other things that they thought were of concern tothem.

And then describing, which I can only say is the "timeline of events" that they had anticipated tobe happening, to be on course, and lots of concerns because it wasn't. And what was meant tohappen on the timeline that hadn't happened, and what actions were going to be taken for it tohappen.

And this is where things started to get quite surreal -- because I'd never been in the company of people like this, talking like that.

Now, the group of people who I was most familiar with, the people who do the work within theCity, they belong to various well known financial committees; some of them quite diversecommittees, but they all belong to the same organization. These are people who go unseen;most people don't know who they are. I know them. I know them by sight, know them by name.I know them by what they do.

It was the other people who were there at the time that surprised me. Three others in particular.There were more people there who were at their type of level as well who I couldn't reallyidentify, but three of significance, certainly.

B: Okay, now when was this meeting? Let's put a date on it.

W: Okay. We're talking 2005. It was after the May general election -- that's when Blair was

voted back in again. That meeting definitely took place some time in June of that year.B: It is okay to put on record that it was in June?

W: June 2005 is fine. Yes.

B: All right. Now I wonder then if you could spell out what it was that was discussed at thatmeeting.

W: Well, as I mentioned, I was quite surprised to see the amount of people who were there.The meeting ranged from several discussions covering several items or things that werehappening at the world in the time, so there was quite a big discussion about security within thecountry. And one of those three key persons there has now assumed the role over this... isactually doing it now. He's there now. He's in that position right now.


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The big thing at the time was Iraq. That was on their agenda, but also, surprisingly, there waslots of conversation and talk about Iran. And what surprised me and really raised my eyebrows,was mention, open mention -- this was people talking comfortably to one another, not arguingor shouting -- but talking c omfortably about the Israeli reluctance to strike and provoke Iran intoarmed action. That was something that really raised the hairs on the back of my neck.

And it seemed as if the Israeli government was tied onto what was going on here and had a roleto play which was being dictated outside Israeli borders. A year later, Israel attacked Iranian-backed Hezbollah bases in Lebanon.

And then the second thing that came out that I recall quite clearly was mention of Japanesereluctance to create havoc within the Chinese financial sectors.

I really couldn't understand why they were talking about that and why that had any importance.What I picked up from this seemed to be the Japanese government, or those in Japan, beingcoerced or ordered into doing something that would wreck or slow down the Chinese rise tofinancial power.

It was mentioned that China was growing too quickly and the main beneficiary of that growthwas the Chinese military, which was getting modernized, mostly through the money that theywere getting from the world market.

And then things... and this is where I can't help but be subjective, Bill. Because at the time Irecall I started to feel quite sick about what was being spoken about, and very anxious aboutwhat was being said.

I was on the periphery of this meeting and I could feel the anxiety just rise up inside me becausethis was stuff that was getting spoken about off the cuff. It wasn't getting announced toanybody. This was things that they already knew about.

So then there was open talk about the use of biological weapons, where and when they would beused, and the timing. And timing always appears to be crucial.

And then there was more talk centered on how Iran must be engaged militarily in order toprovoke the desired military response from China .

There was a clear expectation of goading Iran into some sort of armed conflict with the West,with China coming to the aid of Iran. Through this goading, either China or Iran would use atactical nuclear weapon of some sort.

And, as I mentioned, these people weren't making decisions. They were discussing somethingthat had already been planned, so they were simply sharing their information betweenthemselves. And it became clear as these discussions went on that the central issue of thismeeting was when the balloon would go up -- when all this would happen.

Other talk centered on dealing with finances, resources, protection of assets, and a control of these resources and bringing in outlying assets. And I can go through this chain of events withyou now, Bill, if you like.

B: I'd be really happy to go into as much detail as you feel you can.

W: Okay. Now, as I previously mentioned, they needed either the Chinese or the Iranians to beguilty of the first use of nuclear weapons in order to justify the next stage.

Now, I've already added, and this is anecdotal, so it can't be confirmed. But my informationcoming through in this meeting, and from elsewhere, positively indicates that the Iranians doindeed have a tactical nuclear capability right now. They're not developing it. They've got it.

B: Some say they might have got it from the Russians, maybe. Do you have any idea aboutthat?

W: I believe it's from the Chinese.

B: From the Chinese... okay.

W: It's because the Chinese technology has been, for many years, used in their missilesystems. They're getting missile technology also from the Russians as well, but this is mostly


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ground-to-air missile systems, that sort of thing -- defensive weapons. Tactical missile weaponry-- that technology is coming via China.

B: Do you have some expertise in this subject from your own military background?

W: Yes, I do.

B: Okay, so this means that in this meeting where you were hearing this information, you wereable to hear this wearing your military hat, with your military experience, and understandstrategically and tactically what it was they were talking about and why.

W: Oh, absolutely. I could have even stepped in and corrected their terminology because Ibelieve they were getting it wrong, but they were just describing it the best way they could.

B: Right.

W: So yes, I do have quite a deep knowledge of those types of weapons, and weapons systemsin general.

B: Weapons systems in general; sure. Okay, back to where we were, that was a little footnotethat you put in there, saying that you felt, anecdotally, but you're also confident in that opinion,that Iran did actually have a current nuclear capability.

W: Yes, if I can put this in here, Bill, before this escapes me... it's anecdotal in the sense thatthe discussion didn't mention that Iran didn't have them. The discussion leant toward the

Iranians having that type of weapon and not having them. I think the distinction would havebeen made there -- if they didn't have them. It wasn't mentioned that they DIDN'T have them. Itleant towards them having such weapons already.

B: I understand. Now, I don't want to get you off track, but there's the potential analogy withthe Iraqi situation, where Western governments and military, whether they really knew the truthor not, were certainly telling the public that the Iraqi military capability was far greater than itreally was. Is it possible that there was some delusion here with respect to Iran's capability? Ordo you think they really did know what the Iranians have and could do?

W: Making a comparison with Iraq is a natural thing to do. However, in this context, I think itcould mislead.

The backing that Iraq got during the Iran-Iraq War was mostly Western. And of course

"Western" we must include Israel, so the likelihood of Iraq getting a nuclear weapon that theyhaven't produced themselves, but getting it imported to them, would be extremely low.

Now, the other side of the coin is Iran. Now, Iran is being continuously backed by China andthen later by the Russians; and also by other countries too. The military market is quite an openone and in that we can even include the French, who quite independently export their weaponsout wherever they can.

B: Yes.

W: Even in defiance of conventions in place about the sale of weapons abroad. But this goes abit beyond that. We're talking about a country that's being used quite well by another countrythroughout the revolutionary period -- where they have been seen as an enemy of all theWestern states, and also the Gulf states as well.

B: You mean, you're referring to Iran being used by China?

W: China. Yes. They're both using each other, of course. China's economy is skyrocketing. Idon't know if it's reached its plateau now or not, and I'm not talking about that. But the amountof weaponry and the level of technical expertise that Iran is receiving from the Chinese military --it seems inconceivable that nuclear weapons haven't been included within any package that

goes there; whether that comes under the direct control of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards or jointly by the Iranians and the Chinese. One can't be sure.

But I go back to what I said before, that at that meeting, the assumption was -- and it was quiteclear -- that the Iranians HAD such weapons in their possession because it wasn't mentioned tothe contrary.


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B: Understood. And what you're going to go on to talk about is how this cooperation betweenIran and China was going to be used as a way to get at China -- because China's the maintarget. Is this correct?

W: That's correct. China has been the main target since at least the mid 70s -- and again, thisinformation it's through third parties so I can't give you any direct first-hand evidence of this --but it's always been China. It was always China that is to be the big one in this timeline.

B: Mm hm.

W: It's China that they're after right now, and it's all about how to coerce and create thescenario where this type of -- well, it's going to be war, Bill; there's going to be a war -- how thiscan be realized and how it can be made credible to everybody here living in the West?

And the way it's going to be made credible is by a state like Iran being used as a patsy to use anuclear weapon in order to elicit an exchange.

B: And the whole justification of this, then, is to provide or to trick China into a war, with whatreason?

W: China will then come to the aid of Iran, very quickly. And what we're talking about is these"Roads to Jerusalem," as it were. And it should be no surprise that the Chinese have got theirown "Road to Jerusalem," so to speak, because that's where the oil is -- their lifeline -- andthat's where their power could be extended far more than where it is at the moment.

B: I didn't understand what you meant there by Jerusalem . Was that a metaphor, talking aboutIran?

W: Yes. It was my metaphor. Although I haven't mentioned it to you previously, you know, theytalk about "the road to Jerusalem," as it were. People like Benjamin Netanyahu use it quite a lot.Obama has used it. The Chinese president has actually used it, I believe, too. Hu Jintao, hisname is. They've actually used this metaphor.

B: I didn't know that.

W: Yes, they have. It's where that road lies. Does it lie through Tehran, going one way? Or doesit lie through Tehran again, coming the other way?

B: Okay, so you're using it basically as a metaphor for a desired goal, something that's reached

and attained.W: That's right.

B: Okay. So what you're saying, then, is that there's a long-term plan which has being decidedquite a while ago to set up the situation, to set up the chessboard, the global chessboard, sothat there will be a war with China. This is what you're saying.

W: Yes, in a nutshell. You've got it. It's a whole series of events, and a lot of them have beenrealized. And again I can only emphasize that time seems to be critical.

B: What has happened, and what is yet to happen, and what is the eventual roll-out plan thatthey want to happen if everything that they wanted were to occur?

W: Well, the plan is for the fuse to be set off in the Middle East again, in a way that would make

the previous conflicts in the Middle East look like playground scraps.

It will involve the use of nuclear weapons and, again, it's to create an atmosphere of chaos andextreme fear, not just in the West but throughout the world, and to put in place what I'vementioned as unified totalitarian Western governments; and to do this China needs to be takenout, politically and socially, for this to happen.

B: So what they're doing here, they're killing two birds with one stone. They're using this as a justification to create what many on the internet have called the One World Government, exceptthat's not including China. You're talking about the Western nations in lockdown alliance againstthis new threat.

W: It's specifically the Western nations, but I think we've also got to include Japan in this too.


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B: And how about Russia? Where does Russia stand?

W: I believe Russia is a player, but I've got no evidence. For some reason or other Russia reallydoesn't get a look in here; and it's just an assumption of mine that that Russian governmentthat's in place at the moment is hand-in-hand with the controlling players that are here in theWest.

B: Hm. So you're saying that because in this meeting that you attended, Russia wasn'tmentioned as a major factor.

W: No, none at all. The only way it was mentioned is that the whole idea is to create a conditionof chaos throughout the world. It would mean the later use of biological weapons, widespreadfood shortages, which will affect vulnerable countries across the globe, followed by massstarvation and disease.

The only mention that Russia gets in here is an odd one which I can't explain and maybesomeone else can. I can't really get my head around this. But within this meeting it wasmentioned: "to cause the Chinese military to attack Eastern Russia". Now, I can't qualify thatand why that was mentioned at the meeting -- I just don't know.

B: Okay. So just to go back to what I mentioned a minute ago, about two birds with one stone.One goal here, then, is to establish a united alliance of Western countries with a kind of totalitarian "emergency war footing", heavy control aspect to it. And the other aspect is actuallyto light the fire of this war, which will result in all kinds of chaos and presumably an enormousnumber of people dying somewhere.

W: Yes.

B: The Chinese population? Or everyone on the planet? Is this part of the population reductionplan? What did they say?

W: Well, there was talk about biological agents being used, described as being flu-like and itwould spread like wildfire. Now, they didn't mention it at this meeting, but I know now that it willattack people genetically, not everybody together. How that would happen... I'm not ageneticist, I really don't know. One can only assume that it's linked to DNA in some way.

B: Mm hm.

W: And the differences that are found in DNA. These differences have been identified and the

viruses can be made that could kill a person off and do it quite quickly.B: And so the viruses are genetically targeted is what you're saying?

W: Yes.

B: Genetically targeted for racial type, or more specific even than that?

W: Racial type. I can be quite definite on that. They're talking about extinction of a whole partof the human race, doing so genetically.

B: Really? Did they mention that in this meeting, in those terms?

W: Not exactly. Those are my terms. But this is how it was mentioned, and this is my recall of itand how this came out and how I've interpreted it.

B: Okay.

W: But that's what it most definitely alluded to.

B: Are they talking about getting the Chinese out of the way because they're an inconvenientmajor group that's not playing ball with the global plans? Or are they talking about this as anexcuse to thin down the entire world's population, including that in the Western countries?

W: Well, it's a very good question and as far as I can see, it's a hypothetical one. Again, I can'tgive you an answer to that one. From a personal point of view, it definitely appears to be athinning of the world's population and it's getting it down into a controllable size for thisgovernment that's going to come, in order for them to have the control that they wish for.Otherwise, they wouldn't have it.


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It even sickens me to speak about this now, it really does. It sickens me no end that they wouldgo ahead and do this sort of thing; that such things have actually been spoken about. They'rebringing the population down to what they coldly believe to be a "manageable level".

B: Can you reference in this meeting that you attended to those levels, or the numbers, or thepercentages, or anything tangible that you can remember?

W: Yes. They're talking about half.

B: Wow. That's a lot of people.

W: Yes. It is.

B: Okay.

W: That's bringing it back down by half.

B: So that's more than the Chinese, then. That answers that question, doesn't it?

W: Well, in a nuclear exchange -- and I believe there will be a limited nuclear exchange -- therewill be some sort of ceasefire. That was spoken about; they anticipated a quick ceasefire, butnot before millions had already died, principally in the Middle East.

So we're probably talking about Israel here, the population in Israel being sacrificed. Also placeslike Syria, Lebanon, possibly Iraq, definitely Iran, you know, the towns and major cities, power

plants and so forth, that sort of thing. And then a ceasefire before it goes full-out.B: A cease...? Wow. Sorry, I'm interrupting you, I do apologize. A ceasefire before it goesfull-out?

W: Yes, it's like some sort of game of poker where they already know what hands are going tobe dealt. They know what's going to be dealt. They know that scenario could be brought aboutand that scenario can be ended again with a ceasefire. So we'll have the ceasefire, and it's duringthis time of the ceasefire that events will start to really take off.

B: Do you know how?

W: Yes. This is when biological weapons will be used.

B: Oh...

W: This will create the conditions where biological weapons can be used. And here you've got toimagine a world, now post-nuclear war, or limited nuclear war, in chaos, financial collapse,totalitarian governments coming into place.

B: And a lot of damage to infrastructure.

W: People living in total fear and panic -- this is what's going to happen next. You'll have ascenario... and this again was talked about, and I can go into some detail about how people willbecome more controllable with no one coming out in contention about what's going to happenbecause their own safety and security has now being placed firmly in the hands of those who aresaying they can protect it best.

And it's in this ensuing chaos of a post-nuclear exchange that these biological weapons will be

deployed in such a fashion where there will be no structure, no safety-nets, for anybody tocounter this type of biological onslaught.

And it should be mentioned, for those who are not aware, that biological weapons are just aseffective as nuclear ones; it just takes a while longer -- that's all.

B: Yes. Now, the deployment of the biological weapons following the ceasefire, is thatsomething that happens covertly, like all of a sudden people will start getting ill and no oneknows where it came from? Or is this an overt weapon deployment that would be very obvious?

W: I don't think it would be overt, because the Chinese people are going to be hit by the flu! Sothere'll be a worldwide flu epidemic, perhaps, with a country like China -- or China, becauseChina is mentioned -- being the one that's going to suffer most.


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B: Okay. Now, if you were a Chinese military commander, what would you do in this situation?Presumably you would retaliate.

W: Yes, indeed. The type of retaliation the Chinese armed forces could provide is not the sameas those that are held in the West. The type of weapons that the West can deploy very, veryquickly far outstrips anything that's within the technological grasp of the Chinese armed forces atthe moment -- although they're getting better as time goes on.

But when I'm talking about China, we're talking about the People's Liberation Army, the People'sArmy, getting together quite quickly, and you're talking about mass movements of troops

somehow into zones where they can engage with their opposite number.And in this type of exchange that's going to be nuclear... that's why I mentioned right at the verybeginning... there will be a conventional war to begin with, then it will quickly go to nuclear witheither Iran or the Chinese being provoked into first use, is because they won't be able to be in aposition to defend themselves properly against what the West can deliver conventionally withoutgoing nuclear first.

B: Okay. So the Chinese are going to be obliged to go into a preemptive strike.

W: Yes, all their options will be taken away from them... the retaliatory options will be takenaway from them quite quickly and they wouldn't have time to recover.

B: Okay, now, what you were describing there was the situation before the ceasefire, whenChina was going to be provoked into using nuclear weapons.

W: I think it's best to look at this in stages. So we're talking about a conventional war of sorts;that war then eliciting the use of a nuclear weapon either by the Chinese or by the Iranians.

B: Okay.

W: Probably more likely by Iran, to stop it going any further. Then we're talking about anexchange of weapons and then a ceasefire before we have something that's no longer confinedto a geographical area.

B: What does that look like? Is this global? For instance, are you talking nuclear weapons onAmerican territory, in Europe, and so forth?

W: No. Global nuclear war wasn't mentioned.

B: Okay.

W: It was just purely geographical, Middle East.

B: Okay. So actually some people would refer to this as the Armageddon war, the war that'sbeen prophesied.

W: Yes. That's right. For those who are looking down those roads, you know, it certainlyhighlights a time where this sort of thing is going to occur. But probably not the way theythought, because I can't emphasize this too much: people in general are going to be placed intosuch a state of panic and fear that they're going to wish for a strong government everywhere.

They won't call them totalitarian governments; they'll be military governments with the civilgovernment still there but in a redundant mode. The military will call the shots -- the same way

as a general does in Afghanistan, or previously in Iraq. The general in command takes over thescene. He makes the calls.

So we have to imagine the same sort of thing within a country where you've got a military-basedcivil government, calling the shots, with the so-called elected government almost redundant. Themilitary-based government will provide the security for the people who are living in thesecountries who have yet to be affected by this type of onslaught.

B: Okay. What's the timing for this series of events, as best you know?

W: As best I know... 18 months. It's definitely before 2012.

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W: Or around 2012, sometime in that year.

B: Now somebody reading this will ask: Okay, so this is what they were discussing in 2005.How can you know that this plan is still on track, that things haven't changed radically, that they haven't abandoned it completely, that there hasn't been some big U-turn or epiphany here? What makes you so certain that this is still on track?

W: Because of the events that have taken place since 2005. I think that's probably the mostcoherent way to look at it. We've already had a so-called financial collapse. It wasn't a collapseat all. It was a centralization of financial power. That's happened. It's certainly happened in the

United States. It's most certainly happened in the United Kingdom. It's most certainly happenedin France and in Germany. So all the key players in the Western world centralized their financialassets.

B: Was this talked about in the meeting?

W: Yes! It took up quite a large part of that meeting about how it was going to happen. Bear inmind where the meeting took place -- in the City of London. The City is the financial hub of theworld, beyond any question.

B: So what you're saying then is that all of these things have happened according to theirroll-out of this plan.

W: That's right -- and all the preparations that need to be in place before this type of conflicttakes place, that's already been put in place too.

B: Such as what? What are you referring to?

W: Well you're talking about key figures taking over. Let's take a good example here and this isone that probably most people in the United Kingdom are unaware of, is that the British privatesecurity industry employs somewhere in the region of 500,000 people, which is far more thanthe UK military. The UK military is far smaller than that. The UK military is only a couple of hundred thousand. You're talking 500,000 people working in private security industry at themoment.

Now prior to 2005, there was no regulation for that. There was no training for them. There wasno unification of that force of people. And behind the scenes -- and this is something peopleshould be able to be aware of, especially living in the UK -- there was the 2001 Private SecurityIndustry Act.

Now, that act meant that anybody working within the private sector had to undergo certaintraining. They also had to be police-checked. It makes a kind of civilian sense for people who areworking in areas of such security responsibility should be police-checked.

These police checks... everything gets found out. It's not just if you've committed a crime ornot. Believe me, you can find out far much more about that individual through a police check.

And then there's training. This training is all about managing conflict: what to do in times of conflict, how to manage it, how to control it. And then they're taught how to use controlledforce. It extends from there.

B: So you're talking about handling problems of civil unrest and so on. This is all a setup forthat.

W: Indeed. You can take the protests that took place after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, here in theUnited Kingdom and in Western Europe and also in the States, but mostly in Western Europe. Itwas almost like a mass uprising against the war in Iraq. That won't be repeated again. It won'tbe.

But the people in this industry need to be lawfully empowered in order to do their job becausethey'll still be working protecting assets, so they'll still be doing their job. And at the moment aswe speak the Security Industry Association is seeking and receiving more powers on top of thepowers that they've already been given. They've already been licensed to operate legally withinthe civilian environment. Now they're getting the additional police powers they need.

It's not just for those in the British security industry; it's also those who are called "civilianenforcement officers": parking attendants, that sort of thing; community police officers; those


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who are aiding the police in order for them to do their job, they're getting powers commensuratewith the responsibilities that's required to enable them to do the job effectively. So we're talkingabout powers of arrest; powers of detention; we're talking down those lines. And that's going tohappen.

B: Is this happening in other Western countries as well, do you know?

W: Well, it's already occurred in other Western countries, places like France and Germany,where you've got several police forces working together. You don't have one police force, as itwere, that you could identify and say: Well, they're the police. They've got other agencies and

they all carry similar powers.But those powers within the UK security industry just do not exist at the moment. They alreadyexist in the United States and it's a United States model that's principally being used here.

B: Okay. Now, before you got into those details, we were talking about the timeline -- and I wasasking you about what was your response to somebody who wanted to know how you could beso sure this was more or less on track, even though the meeting you attended was four yearsago.

W: Almost five years ago now.

B: Almost five. Yes.

W: Yes. All I can say, Bill, is that just take on board what I've mentioned, and if it does ring anybells with anyone -- the veracity of what's said can then be checked by themselves if they wishto do so.

B: Yes.

W: Not everything's hidden. They can't possibly hide everything, and then they can put thepieces of the puzzle together themselves and then they'll find out that it's quite credible.

B: Yes. I have to admit, it is very credible, which is very sobering. Right at the start of ourconversation, you said that... this is my paraphrase... you said that this was a race against timefrom their point of view. Why?

W: There's lots of things going to be happening within the next few years and it's all to do withpower. Some of it, I don't fully understand myself, to be honest with you. But from what I do

understand, there is quite a lot of power-brokering going on, and it's principally that those whohave been in control of most of society for not just hundreds of years, but for thousands of years, wish that control to continue. And in order to do that, a sequence of events has to bemanufactured in order for that to happen. What I've just described to you is probably the firstpart.

So we're going to head into this war, then after that... and I can't give you a timescale for whenthis is going to happen... there will be a geophysical event taking place on Earth which is goingto affect everybody.

Now, by that time we will all have been through a nuclear and biological war. The Earth'spopulation, if this happens, will be drastically reduced. When this geophysical event is going totake place, then those remaining will probably be halved again. And who survives that is going todetermine who takes the world and its surviving population into the next era.

So we are talking about a post-cataclysmic-event era. Who's going to be in charge? Who's goingto be in control? So it's all about that. And that's why they're so desperate for these things tohappen within a set timeframe. Otherwise they'll lose out.

B: Okay. Let me play devil's advocate here, and talk to me from your standpoint of having quitea lot of in-depth military experience and familiarity with military thinking. Why is the war and theestablishment of the totalitarian government, and the atmosphere of fear, and so on and soforth, why is all that needed if there is going to be a major geophysical event, as you put it,which would further disrupt infrastructure, result in a lot of deaths, result in all manner of emergencies all over the world, earthquakes, tsunamis, goodness knows what. That alone would

justify martial law in most countries and states of emergency and those same factions couldeasily justify assuming power in that kind of an emergency. Why is the war part of this scenario?I don't understand that.


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W: I think you have to look at it from a different point of view. After a cataclysmic event, therewill be little or no structure. And if there's no structure, that means a structure has to be putback in place.

A structure needs to be in place before that happens with some sort of certainty that it willsurvive what's going to come -- so that it can land on both feet the day after, and then remain inpower and have the power that it's enjoyed previously.

B: So, it's a justification for strengthening the critical parts of the infrastructure actually inpreparation for the cataclysm which in routine civilian times might not be so strong. This is what

you're saying?W: Indeed. And I'm going into an area where I can only give subjective views the same as anyother person could, but the feeling, and it's a very intuitive one, is that they've got to get theiract together now. They've got to get their powerbase properly in place. And the only way they'regoing to do that is to create the circumstances for that to happen, i.e., a conflict.

And we can all look back through history. Every war has achieved an aim. Besides the suffering,the human suffering that goes on, it's always achieved an aim. And the aim is always on the sideof the victor.

So, we're looking at this totalitarian regime, which I believe is already totalitarian anyway. Imean, we do not have a democracy at all. Nobody's got a say. This has already been decidedover and above anybody.

We don't matter, as it were. We really don't matter. They matter, and their power matters, andthat's the only thing that's being thought about it. And I believe if you tapped into the mindset of someone who operates in that type of way, you'd understand what they're going to do and whythey're doing it and why they want to control the endgame and be in power at the end of it,intact, because this geophysical event is going to be survivable.

B: Do you have any indications when this is? This implies, from what you're saying, that they'rekind of expecting something to happen in 2012. Is this a 2012 event?

W: No, this isn't really centered around 21st December, 2012. I don't know what's going tohappen on 21st December, 2012.

I've got strong suspicions that it's going to be something else, maybe something nice foreverybody. I really don't know. But certainly around that time we're going to be in a conflict

that's going to take as long as it takes. But we're talking about some years after 2012 when thisgeophysical event is going to take place. I've judged that to be in my lifetime.

B: Okay. So let me feed this back to you, this roll-out of events you describe: the nuclearexchange and the ceasefire, and then the use of biological weapons... what you're saying is thatthis is going to result in such chaos actually that it will take a generation of humanity to rebuildall of that. And during all of that time there will have to be some kind of a heavy totalitarianinfrastructure in order to cope with this on-going emergency and re-build. And then sometime inthere, there's going to be this major geophysical event, but they've got to get started as soon aspossible. Is that right?

W: That's correct. That's right.

B: Do you think that they know when this is happening? Or do you think they think it's just

happening "sometime"?W: Yes. I think they've got a good idea of when it's going to happen. I don't know when that is.However, I've got this very strong feeling that it's going to happen in my lifetime, say within 20years. You could probably bring that back even further -- between now and ten years; betweennow and five years.

B: Hm.

W: You know, I really don't know. I wish I did know. It's something that I'd love to know, butwe've now entered into that period where this geophysical event is about to take place, when weconsider the length of time that's passed since the last one which happened about 11,500 yearsago, and it happens round about 11,500 years, cyclically. It's now due to happen again.


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B: Yes.

W: To what degree it's going to affect the world, one can only imagine, and I'm sure there'scontingency plans in place right now for that event to happen because I believe that is widelyknown within these circles. They understand it's going to happen. They have a certainty of knowledge that it's going to happen. They may have a timeframe, and it appears likely that theyhave. Again, it's one of these things -- it would be inconceivable if they didn't know. I mean, thebest brains in the world will be working for them on this. You know? And they know all about it,and personally, I don't.

B: Was this talked about in your meeting at all?W: No, it wasn't openly spoken about. Let me summarize what was discussed at the meeting:

Iran will be attacked, possibly within 18 months. China will come to the aid of Iran, to protect itsown interests. Nuclear weapons will be used either by Iran or China, with Israel provoking thefirst use. Much of the Middle East will be laid to waste. Millions will die within a very short periodof time. And for some reason this is here, and I can't tell you why: China will move forcibly intoparts of Russia to extend ceasefire lines. Thereafter, biological weapons will be deployed againstChina. China will " catch a cold" .

And my own understanding is that there's some sort of malevolent ET alliance at work for 50years by the UK and US and other Western powers, and this includes Japan.

And, again, when we talk about a malevolent ET alliance that's in the context of black projects,and this is an exchange of technologies that's been going on for some considerable time. Sothere is an involvement there, and that involvement I can't fully explain myself.

And I also understand that there are more humanitarian and altruistic ET entities working againstthis timeline and are somehow maintaining a precarious balance without taking any directintervention themselves. And again, I can't fully explain that but it's a certain intuitive feeling thatthis is working and there's other aspects of my experience that's led me to make that statement-- but that's another story.

So what we're talking about is the Western powers seeking a 'perfect war' -- doing sothroughout the 20th century right up till the present day, because this timeline goes way back.So we're talking decades or hundreds of years of time where this timeline has been in use.

And also I think it's quite important to associate the timeline with its other reference which I've

heard several times now: it's called THE ANGLO-SAXON MISSION. I feel that's important to addbecause that may ring some bells with some people as I don't think it's been mentioned before.

B: I've heard that phrase before. I don't want to digress here, but the flag which I've gotagainst that -- and actually which I'm really starting to understand and it's as chilling as it gets,from what you're saying -- that the reason why it's called The Anglo-Saxon Mission is becausebasically the plan is to wipe out the Chinese so that after the cataclysm and when things arerebuilt, it will be the Anglo-Saxons who are in a position to rebuild and inherit the new Earth,with no one else around. Is that right?

W: Whether that's right I really don't know, but I would agree with you. Through the 20thcentury at least, and even before into the 19th and 18th centuries, the history of this world hasbeen predominantly run from the West and from the Northern region on the planet. Others havetried but failed.

And it's safe to say that World War One and World War Two were manufactured wars. I'm quitesure of that. And they were used as stepping-stones to get to where they are now. Any historianwill tell you that if that didn't happen, this wouldn't have happened. We wouldn't have had theUnited Nations; we wouldn't have had the United States of America becoming a superpower insuch a short period of time. They became a superpower within four years of war. And theyended up with nuclear weapons.

People, I feel, have got to bring this into their own personal agendas. The West becoming thepredominant force in the world is there. It's beyond question.

B: Retrospectively looking back on it, you can see a sort of long-term strategy that extendsover a number of generations even though one couldn't see the wood for the trees at the time.


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W: That's the nature of people -- really. You know, we just live our own lives with those of ourfamilies and those close to us and do the best we can. It's not very often that we stick ourheads above the parapet and have a good look around to see what's really happening. We're notvery good at doing that, I'm afraid.

I'm a good example. I've been involved in so many things, I've just got my head down and justgot on with what I was doing, ignoring what was going on, possibly subconsciously denyingwhat was happening until I really had to say something about it.

B: Yes. Just on a personal note, it must be quite hard living with this personal experience that

you've had of being party to these conversations and knowing that this isn't just some fantasybecause you heard these people talking about this, laughing about it.

W: Well, it was quite informal. I mean, they were very comfortable talking about this.

How can I describe the people who I'm talking about better? The people who I'm talking aboutare people who exude power. They elicit fear. They demand obedience and by God do they getit! And by the way they talk they're dictating to the so-called elected governments that we've gotin Parliament or in Washington or in Berlin or in Paris. These people exude that kind of power,and beyond that what can I say?

I'm sure other people have come across characters like that in their lives. There's not acompassionate bone in their body. They do not resonate any spiritual warmth whatsoever.They're cold, they're calculating. To use a phrase that's common here, "butter wouldn't melt intheir mouth".

B: A lot of people out there speculate that at some level, maybe not at the level of the peoplewho you were meeting with in the room, but at some level, in this behind-the-scenesgovernment that is orchestrating this entire plan, lies a non-human intelligence.

And one of the arguments for that is that it takes an enormous amount of long-term thinking,strategic cunning, to plan going over many generations, which is the result of an extremely highintelligence just to play this chess game on such an enormous scale. So some people, myself included, suggest that this must be a non-human intelligence that's behind this.

W: Yes. And my perception is that this intelligence is incredibly logical, without any empathy,without any love, care, understanding or compassion. They're cold and calculating and logicalbeyond any logic that we could muster normally. They go well beyond that -- they're suchsupremely intelligent people. These are people who can produce answers to really difficultquestions without blinking an eye. They are very, very bright people, but bright only in the sensethat their logic is extraordinary.

B: What can ordinary people do? How should they react? How should they think? Do youpersonally feel that this is inevitable? Do you think we're all doomed in some way?

W: No, absolutely not. I've often thought about this, Bill, and this of course is a personal view:We will endure. But to endure, from one person to the next, is not to work for them anymore.It's to stop working for them. It's not to react violently against them because they'll win. Theywould love that to happen, then it gives them an excuse. They breed on fear and violence -- thereaction from fear. That would be like bees to honey for them. They would love that to happen.

What's needed is non-violent reaction: simply just not doing the job for them any more. To givea comparison, Bill. There was a man who history has largely ignored. He was a Frenchman, by

the name of Jean Jaurès . It's always surprised me why this incredible character has neverentered the history books. He's quite well known in France in some circles, but not widelyknown.

He predicted the First World War happening. He wanted the International Workers' Movement tonot comply with the royal families and aristocracy, and when you read about him you'll find thisout yourself. Just a couple of months before the outbreak, when the assassination of ArchdukeFerdinand took place in Serbia, Jaurès was assassinated in a French café. They killed him. Hewas shot dead, and with him went that movement.

Prior to World War One, he saw the writing on the wall. He saw the aristocracies and the royalfamilies of Europe pitting themselves against one another, in a big battle. He knew that Franceand Germany, the United Kingdom were all industrialized nations. He further realized that beingindustrialized, the next war will be an industrial war where millions of people might be killed.


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He formed a movement which some have termed as communist. It was the InternationalWorkers' Movement, and it's got nothing to do with politics. His idea was for the ordinary personnot to do anything, not to go to war, just stay at home and they wouldn't have the war theywanted.

I personally believe that if non-violence is adopted and people become more awake to what'shappening, then these people very, very quickly lose the power that they've got. They feed onpower. They feed on fear. So if you take these elements away from them they becomepowerless. They need us to do what they're doing. They can't do it on their own even thoughthey'll be damn dangerous in any event, but they can't do it all on their own.

And that would be my message is just to wake up a bit, see what's happening about us, put ourheads above the parapet and without fearing to do that, without feeling afraid, take a deepbreath, have a look around, see what's happening, and then people will soon realize: Oh yeah.Okay. This is where we're gonna go. This is where we're heading and there's not much I can doabout it. But they can!

As I've said, it's not to react violently. And if people are in positions where these people needthem, just don't work for them. Just stop working for them. Take your labor away because theyneed the troops who are going to do this work. We're not just talking about people in themilitary. We're talking about every civilian member in all the populations right across the globe.Just say: No, because this is not us. This is not what we want to do.

And it's making that choice. It sounds ridiculously simple. I think the execution of it is that

simple and it's well within our power as human beings, conscious living, breathing, humanbeings who have a shared compassion for one another to do that. Because if we don't, they'llcarry on and then they'll realize their endgame.

B: Do you think, from your own military experience, that there are enough people in the militarywho are saying: You know what? I didn't sign up for this. I'm not going to do this. Or do youthink that they'll buy into all the justifications that are being set up at the moment?

W: Well, by and large the Western military is not a conscripted army. It's a professional army,and it prides itself on its professionalism. It prides itself on acting on behalf of the people whoelected the government who sent them out to do the job that they're doing. It's a very difficultquestion to answer. And of course, these troops are superbly trained and they believe, theywholly believe, as I did when I was in the military, that you're doing the job for all the rightreasons.

If it became clear to people who are in such professions -- this is not just the military; we'retalking about the emergency services, the police, all those who've made their way into thesecurity industry, we're talking about all these people. If enough voices were heard, then thosein the military who have not achieved any significant rank, who have no particular stake in thegame, will then wake up themselves just as soon as anybody else.

But it's got to be borne in mind that the Western powers have professional military services, andit's a difficult thing to do to make it clear and let these guys and girls know that they're notfighting the right people.

B: Sure. Let me ask a different question. Was there reference to "safe or safer places to be"?Physically, I mean.

W: No. None at all.

B: Nothing like the southern hemisphere is okay, the northern hemisphere is going to be aproblem? Nothing like that?

W: No, not at that meeting. That wasn't mentioned at all.

B: Okay. Another question I'd like to ask you, and it's a fascinating one to debate among peoplewho are tuned in to this whole area, is a personal one: why do you feel that the benevolent ETs,and I'm sure that they exist, why do you think that they don't step in to say: Okay, guys,normally we're hands-off, but this is getting serious here and we're not going to allow this tohappen. Is that possible? Why do they maintain such a distance?

W: Well, first things first. " These benevolent ETs " -- I don't actually like calling them " ETs "... Ibelieve that these people are us and we are them.


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B: Yes.

W: They've been around for a lot longer than the regime that's in power at the moment. Thispresent regime, this power-based regime, some have called them reptilians, and I've got noproblem at all calling them that because that's exactly what they're like -- totally cold-hearted.They've been around much, much longer and they're the ones who have really made humanitywhat it is today.

Interventions? I believe they've been intervening in the best ways that they can. But we'retalking about very spiritually evolved beings, as the human race is very spiritually evolved --

maybe that's why we come back here so often, back to this planet.But for these people who are us and we are them, as I mentioned, they don't see time the sameway that we understand time here within the physical world. For them, 11,500 years ago was ablink of an eye. It was nothing, and they already know what the endgame is going to be. Theybelieve, as I believe, that this regime that's in power at the moment who wish this totaldominance over the Earth and everything that's in it, are not going to win. They're having theirtime now and their time is about to end.

B: On what basis do you feel that? This is very important for people reading this transcriptbecause some people will be feeling numbed and shocked at the information that you'vepresented, thinking: Oh God, we're really stitched up here.

W: Yes, I think if you take it from the purely physical point of view. It doesn't mean that we'veall got suicidal minds or something like that. We all want our lives; we all cherish our lives;everybody does. We love our lives and we want to experience them fully in all ways, in the bestway we possibly can.

We're currently being prevented from doing so because of this regime, which is based in fear;it's all about fear. And the greatest fear that we've got physically is fear of death, and that's partof the greatest power that they've got over us, is this type of fear, this anxiety that they canraise or lower -- which they're doing all the time.

I can't think of a moment when this hasn't happened, when this fear doesn't come out and thenwe react to it the way that we do. It seems perfectly natural. But what happens when we don't,stop feeling this and say: Well, it's only fear. We can get over this , then that's tapping into whowe really are.

I don't yet believe there are enough people around at the moment who know who they are. Theydefine themselves by their own physical existence, which is all fear-based, and it's cyclical, andthey just can't get out of it. And obviously they need to find their way out of it.

I believe, personally, that come this shift -- I call it a shift because that's what I believe is goingto happen; the Earth's crust is going to shift round about 30 degrees, about 1700 to 2000 milessouthwards, and it will cause a huge upheaval, effects of which will last for a very long time tocome. But the human race isn't going to die off. We're still going to be here. It's who we are atthe end of that -- is where my mind is. And as for this regime, that's where their mind is. This iswhy they're doing what they're doing because they want to be in control at the end of it.

Now, if we're talking about intervention, this is when there will be an intervention by the"benevolent ETs." The people who are really us, this is when it may happen, but I don't know.I've got a strong intuitive feeling it will, but at the moment the situation that we have right now isnot conducive for that type of intervention. Not right now.

They don't feel it's the right time. And in any event, physical life is only a very, very small part of who we really are, so how much importance do you place on that, knowing that when you walkfrom this door into the next door, you're back home anyway?

So all that's got to be taken into consideration, and I'm sure there's people out there who couldarticulate this far better than I'm articulating this right now. I can only articulate this from a verypersonal point of view and that's what I feel intuitively might happen. And I say might knowingfull well that I can be certain within my own self that that sort of thing will happen, and it's justthe pain that we have to go through of reaching that point where this regime will no longer havethe power that they've got.

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place quite quickly. And when it does, the power that these people have will just fall off them likea towel, you know, just fall right off them, and they'll be exposed for what they are.

B: That's a very inspiring thought. Do you feel personally that... Let me specify a number of alternatives: That the whole war might not happen at all; that the whole thing will just fall apart?Or that all of this will fall apart after the war but before the cataclysm? Or that all of this will fallapart after the cataclysm and that the Meek will inherit the Earth, let's say?

W: Yes. This is an extremely good question. Let's consider two things: the first thing is thesheer determination on the part of this regime, for want of a better word, the sheer

determination that they have to have this done. They're desperate. They're going full-out for thisto happen. They're creating the scenarios, the in, the out. It's relentless; it's non-stop; there'sno breathing space. And when there is breathing space, I mean, when people start to relaxabout things, something else will pop up to keep us within that grip of fear that they'vegenerated.

That is a hugely powerful force that they have, massively powerful, and it should never beunderestimated. It's the sort of thing that drives good, honest people around the bend, puttingpeople early into their graves through stress and anxiety. It's coming away from that and seeingit for what it is.

If there's enough people who can raise the levels of awareness and just see what's happening,then everybody else will bring their heads up. I think it only needs one or two people to put theirhead up and just say: Yep. All's clear, and everybody else will come up. Then you'll see them all

around the world, in various countries, just a new feeling, a better feeling than what we've hadbefore, and that's all about individuals empowering themselves by acknowledging who theyreally are.

And it's nothing mystical. It's nothing deeply cultish or anything like that. It's got very little to dowith religion. It's all about the human spirit and the consciousness which we live through andthat we all share and knowing that consciousness is undoubtedly shared by all of us -- but ispresently suppressed. And we have to get past those suppressive forces in order to realize whowe are. When that happens -- all else will follow quite naturally and that regime, dangerous asthey are -- I can't emphasize this too much: These are damn dangerous people, extremelydangerous -- their power will go.

B: This is extremely close to what David Icke talks about. It's extremely close to what Dr. BillDeagle talks about, and to what we've talked about a number of times.

W: Yes.

B: That there's a rise in consciousness going on on the planet, but they're desperately trying toclose the lid and to accelerate their own plans so that they can put in place the iron fist of control. Things may get worse before they get better, but they're not going to win out in the endbecause consciousness transcends all the force and all the military might and all the strategicplanning that they could put into place. And it's a question of that collective consciousnesscontinuing to expand, as it seems to be.

And this interview here that we're doing needs to play a part in that. Because it's not aboutscaring people witless and having them all hide in bunkers with emergency food. It's actuallyabout saying: Listen, it doesn't have to be like this if we can be as big as we are, and as braveas we can be, and as strong as we can be, and realize who we really are. And if enough of us dothat, then this just isn't going to roll out like that.

W: That's right. I'm coming out saying exactly this. I realize I'm not saying anything that'sunique at all, but as you're indicating, it's got to be repeated. People have got to be aware thatthere's hope, and things need not be the way they are. They never needed to be the way theyare. It can be far, far better.

It's getting over the fear; it's this fear that people need to get over. We don't have to bepsychiatrists or psychologists or anything like that -- they only deal with the mind. We don'thave to be religious leaders or great spiritual thinkers to be aware of this, because we all have itwithin us. It's inherent within us. So it's a matter of looking into oneself and then becomingcomfortable with who you are; then you'll have a knowing of what's going on and know that it'swrong. And everybody else... it will just spread.


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Even those who've been indoctrinated into this regime of fear will not be able to resist it becauseto do so is just resisting themselves and who they really are. And it's a wonderful thing; it's whatthis universe is all about and what this whole experience is all about. And it will make theseperiods, these last so many thousands of years, be just... not even a bad memory... just like:Hm! Well, we've learnt from that. Okay? And we'll make sure that doesn't happen again, andthat these kind of characters who can produce this kind of fear, you know, don't ever get apower base here again.

So, yes, I think those days are coming and if it does happen in time -- and 'time' is one of thosewords that you use very carefully because this regime is very time-based, where the human

consciousness isn't really concerned with time so much, but they definitely are because of thephysical nature of the Earth. It does things at certain times. You know, we have seasons: spring,summer, autumn, winter. The shift that's coming is just like another season.

What's going to happen is geophysical change; it's another season, and a very aware humanitycould most possibly take this in their stride and come out the other end of it very well indeed.

I know you mentioned about safe places for people to go. I really don't know. But from apersonal point of view, I know where I should be, and where I should be is where I am rightnow. Whether it's safe or not is immaterial; it's where I should be right now, and I feelcomfortable with that.

B: Yes. When people ask us that question about where they should be, we always reflect it backand point out that the answer is going to be different for every individual, based upon things that

no one else apart from them can really know.Some people may need to stay put; some people may need to travel, but the reason for thatmight be because they've got somebody to meet and something to do in some other location. Itreally depends on so many factors, not just a question of: what's objectively safe and whereshould we hide? It's got more to do with: how can we best deploy all of the abilities that wehave here and now to do whatever it is that we're here to do? And that's going to be individualto everybody.

W: Absolutely. It is. I think the more aware that people become, the fear factor goes. We don'tlive in that fear, so what you previously feared may no longer be a fear for that individual or forthat group of people, for that matter. It just won't be there.

That's not to say there won't be any concerns, there won't be any pain or things like that; of course there will. But on top of all that, the fears that we currently experience, the physical fearsof the uncertainties and the unpredictable nature of things, will be gone -- they'll just go. We'llbe left being the people who we are, and I think the human race as a whole is pretty damnwonderful.

B: Yes. That's a wonderful thing for people to take with them, something that we've oftenmentioned. There's a wonderful movie. It goes back to 1984, a Jeff Bridges movie calledStarman . The starman is an alien visitor who's here for peaceful purposes, trying to understandthe human race because he's got caught up in a strange situation. And he's trying to get backhome.

Towards the end of the movie he says: Would you like to know what I find beautiful about your species? You are at your best when things are at their worst.

I've never forgotten that line. It's got to do the with the fact that what's marvelous about the

human race is the ability to transcend problems and reach deep within themselves to producethe very best out of themselves in the worst situations. And of course, in the military that kind of situation is almost a tradition, that under extraordinary pressure you have people behaving withincredible heroism, and it's that response to pressure that makes us wonderful.

W: Yes, it's more noticeable in the military because that gets reported out. Humanconsciousness and how we exist through this physical world is extremely resilient. A good pointto consider is that we may think sometimes we've got a deadlock in ethical thinking about somethings, but we don't really. Things simply differ from one person to the next which I think isanother wonderful thing because it can keep conversations going for ever and ever, which isfantastic. The dialog we have helps us to understand ourselves so much better.

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ethically right and so forth. It takes it to a different level when these things happen, when ourresilience is tested to this extreme. We're all capable of doing very wonderful things and it lookslikely, very likely, that we're on the cusp of where that resilience is going to be tested to theextreme.

I'm going to emphasize again that we're playing against very dangerous people, extremelydangerous people, incredibly powerful people. And I know from my own experience that notmany people have had first-hand experience with that type of power and how it exudes, andhow it affects one's person... it can make you very, very sick, make you ill to the point of breakdown. Or you join in with them, become subservient and be sycophantic to everything that

they want to do, because the people who do work for them and do their bidding -- and there'squite a large number of them -- are incredibly obedient and incredibly servile. They're not whatyou call "free spirits" at all. You know, they've been taken in, taken in by them.

Maybe that's something that people should begin to be aware of, of the kind of power that theyhold at the moment, and I don't think that's been fully grasped yet. People are trying to see inbetween the margins to find out what's going on and getting snippets of information, and thosesnippets are going to be very, very important.

But to act against them in any way, it can be quite disastrous. I've had that experience and Ithink many, many other people have too. So this is maybe why we should tell exactly who theyare, should announce ourselves and be fearless about it. It's because of that fear... that's at thebase of all that still exists.

B: Something that we spoke about earlier when we had a conversation a few days ago wasthere's a supreme arrogance in these people, which you've experienced at first-hand, whichGeorge Green described when we first met and talked to him about a year and three-quartersago. He said: They think they've won. They're not worried about anything any more. They're not trying to silence all the alternative media. Not really, you know. It's not going to make anydifference. What difference is a couple of voices going to make? The plan's still going to roll out.It's not going to make any difference at all, they believe, what you or I might say.

W: Well I go along with what George Green said. He's painted a far better picture than I could,because that's exactly what it's like. They are incredibly arrogant. Along with their otherattributes that they have, there is that arrogance there. It's quite tangible. Yes. And they're justcomfortable about what they're doing, totally comfortable. They're not hiding around andsneaking about. I mean, these are quite open people, some of them, public figures.

B: Okay. Now, is there anything that we missed? Is there anything that you wanted to say butdidn't have a chance to fully enlarge on? Is there anything you want to add that I haven't evenasked you about?

W: There's still such a story to tell, I think, because I'm very aware that people need to see adecent level of credibility in what I've been describing to you, and I guess that's always adifficulty. But all I can really say is I've been aware of this timeline since the early '70s, tooyoung to understand what it was at the time. In fact it seemed to me quite an exciting thing thatwas going on, and that was the first time I ever heard of the existence of the "Anglo SaxonMission."

And details of what I know, I feel if I started mentioning names in particular and what wasmentioned and where I was at the time, might compromise the Official Secrets Act, which I'mstill party to in so many aspects. I say the military. Where it's in a civilian environment, then no;I feel happy talking about that.

I wish there was a way that I could describe other events, which you're aware of, and do so in amanner that would allow people to understand me far better than I've explained here. Thenthey'd see exactly where I'm coming from, where I've been, and what I've been through. I feelthat then people could rationalize what's been said far better.

But I do feel that what's been said so far is enough for people, if they so wish, to have a lookthemselves and uncover a few stones. And if anything of significance does come out of it whichother people can corroborate, that would be fantastic. That would be good, because evidence...You know, I know it's so crucial to do things like this, and there's no smoking gun as such.There's only one person reporting something that happened five years ago, principally, but thereis a much, much larger story around that which you are aware of, and we need to be extremelycareful about where we go with that.


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B: There are many people, of course, who do have access to the same information you do. Thisis something that is known by thousands of people in finance and the military and politics. It'swidely known. It's a very small proportion of the world's population, but it's still very widelyknown.

W: Absolutely. Yes.

B: And something that we've always encouraged, and we say it again here, is that weencourage anyone who has experienced it first-hand or even at second-hand, any aspect of this,to please step forward and know that there's safety in numbers. Know that the more people who

break ranks and have the courage that you have to speak out, the more will be heard, the morewill be understood, and the whole thing will be like a gradually rolling snowball. The snowball isrolling. It's quite small, but it is rolling.

W: Oh, it is. It is. There'll come a time where names will be named if there's enough publicsupport, and we will demand answers from those people.

So when enough fruit from the tree of evidence comes off, then these people can be properlychallenged, and then we can see a far different story, you know, emerge from the one thatpeople like myself are giving you. It'll become more real, far more real. We can do that. We cantake people to task.

B: Okay. All right. This is very, very important. I want to close by saying: thank you for yourcourage, and thank you for your spirit.

W: Thank you very much, too, Bill.

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The Anglo-Saxon Mission:Bill Ryan's Presentation transcript

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The Anglo-Saxon Mission: Bill Ryan's Presentation16 February 2010

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[Opening music: guitar instrumental of John Lennon's IMAGINE by Mark Knopfler and Chet

Atkins]

Start of presentation

This is Bill Ryan from Project Camelot and Project Avalon, and thedate is the 16th of February, 2010.

This is a bit of an unusual video presentation here, because I’mtaking the step of making a video as an interpretation and as acommentary on an audio interview which we did with animportant witness who came and reported his story to ProjectCamelot a little while ago... about a couple of weeks ago.

As with many of our witnesses, this person wanted to remainanonymous, but he has agreed that we transcribe the audio. So we’ve got this as a transcript[ The Anglo-Saxon Mission: Witness Audio Interview ], and this is going to be released at thesame time as the video because it’s important to be able to read the transcript at the same timeas you’re considering what I’m saying about it here.

As we come into the story, you’re going to understand exactly why it’s important to get all theinformation: to hold it all into a very fine balance.

Now, this is a British person. He worked in the British military for a number of years, and afterhe retired from the military, he worked in the City of London in a fairly senior position, in arespected position, in the City of London.

For those people watching this video who don’t know about the City of London: the City of London is like an enclave, it’s like a financial enclave in the heart of London itself. Some peopleconsider it almost a little bit like the Vatican. It’s very old, it’s very ancient. It’s the heart of thefinancial system, not only of Britain, but possibly the world.

Many researchers consider that it’s very likely that the City of London calls the shots on thefinancial systems in America. They’ve got control over the Federal Reserve, of the Bank forInternational Settlements – a whole bunch of things that happen. This is like the nerve center of the financial world. And it’s very Masonic; it’s very ancient; it’s very traditional.

Our source attended a number of meetings with senior Masons, and while many of these wereinteresting, they were routine by City of London standards – they were discussing financialaffairs, and so on and so forth.

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And then in June 2005, he attended another meeting that he thought was going to be a routinemeeting. But actually, this was something rather unusual – and he realized it was unusual assoon as he arrived.

In fact, in his interview with us, the one which we have the transcript of [ The Anglo-SaxonMission: Witness Audio Interview ], you will see that he says that he felt it was an accident thathe was there. He shouldn’t really have been there, he didn’t know what was happening, and assuch, he didn’t really participate in the meeting. He was there a little bit as a fly on the wall. Hewas just listening to what was happening, and at first he didn’t even understand what was being

discussed.

Now, the people there were Masons. There were senior Masons. They were about 25 or 30people there, including senior politicians who most people in the UK would recognize by name. Ido not know who they were. He didn’t name them, and I didn’t ask for them. But he said: Theseare well known names.

The chief of police was there, representatives from the church, representatives from the military– 25 or 30 people.

And as he listened to this story being discussed... It was an informal meeting. It wasn’t like a bigtable with note pads and water glasses and minutes and an agenda and a chairman. There were

just people in a room who were talking about all of this stuff.

What they were talking about was a plan that had clearly been made a long time ago. And whatthey were discussing was they were discussing the implementation of this plan. They werediscussing how things were going, whether they were on track or not.

For example, to give a flavor of this, they were discussing between them some of the problemsthat they had in the implementation of their plan, and as this little presentation continues here,you will realize what the plan was. I’m going to be revealing this in very much the same way as itwas revealed to our witness and as he revealed it to me – bit by bit, step by step.

The first thing that he heard was they were talking about the fact that Israel didn’t look as if itwas getting prepared to attack Iran anytime soon. This was a problem.

Even back in June 2005, they were apparently concerned that what it was that was planned onsome kind of a timeline wasn’t rolling out according to schedule, and this was an issue for them.

So that attracted his attention very quickly because he’d never been in a meeting when this kindof thing was discussed.

Then they were talking about China, and how powerful China was getting, both militarily andfinancially, very quickly, and that the Japanese weren’t doing what they were supposed to do,which was to interfere in some way with the Chinese financial system. They weren’t doing that,and this was another problem, because China was getting too strong too quickly.

Other things that were discussed were, for example, the coming financial crash, thecentralization of resources – everything that we saw starting to happen in October 2008 . Theywere planning that and referring to it in their meeting in June 2005 . So there was clearly a rolloutof some plan here.

He was quite shocked, the more that he heard, and when he really realized what was happeninghe was extremely shocked.

One of the reasons why I’m giving this video presentation now is to soften the blow and interpretthis a little tiny bit, because it's shocking information. And what I also want to do is I want to tryand differentiate out between what it was that he reported because he’d heard it with his ownears and what it is that is his speculation, and my speculation about how all this fits together.

It’s very important information. We need to know this stuff, even though it doesn’t look like it’sgoing to be on track – I DON'T THINK THIS WILL HAPPEN. I think that there are a bunch of crazy people there who are extremely determined to do something , and they were in a hurry –and this is important to understand – they were in a rush to try and roll out this sequence of


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events.

Now, what he described is what the sequence of events was.

It starts with Israel attacking Iran. Now, this hasn’t happened yet. There have been a number of indications that there are forces which are trying to push this into happening. You’ve only got tofollow the news for the last two years to realize that the public is being prepared for a

justification for this kind of thing. Iran is being set up as being the bad guys that deservesomething to happen to them, and so on and so forth.

Now, that’s going to be the start of what is like the opening gambit in a big chess game. Theplan is to provoke Iran, or China, to retaliate. Our guy, our source, who is a military man, isprivately as convinced as he can be – although this has never been made public, and this is notpublicly known – that Iran does have nuclear weapons. He believes that they have beenprovided by China, behind the scenes.

And all of this is intended , because it’s all right with these controlling forces that Iran has nuclearweapons because they want them to be used. The plan is for either Iran or for China to retaliateafter Iran is struck with a nuclear weapon.

At that point, there will be a limited nuclear exchange in the Middle East, followed by a ceasefire.

He heard this being planned in this meeting. This is being choreographed. It’s like the script for amovie. This is exactly what’s intended to happen.

And during this time, the other thing that’s being set up for this... and many people watchingthis will be aware that this is being set up in the background. We’ve had a lot of informationabout this from a number of good researchers from many countries who are reporting this onthe internet, that things are being set up in many of the Western countries for there to be heavycontrols over populations: martial law, increased powers on security forces who are not just theArmy or the police.

In Britain, for example, our source said that he knew, he absolutely knew personally for a fact,that a very large number of private security people, their powers were being increased to givethem the ability to arrest people, the ability to detain, the ability to handle riots in streets. Andhere we’re talking about just regular people working in private security, people who give theparking tickets on the streets. Their powers are being increased in the same way.

And last year we heard President Obama talking about how he wanted to have a sort of NationalGuard at home in America, ready to handle this kind of thing. There are a lot of indicators thatthis is being set up.

And in this rollout of this crazy scenario, where it is intended that there will be a limited nuclearexchange in the Middle East, the idea is that, as the world looks upon this with horror, then theywill demand from their governments that there are heavy controls over travel, overcommunication, over people who meet, over people who protest in the streets.

They want to make sure that they don’t have crazy bombers on airplanes, crazy bombers in theshopping malls – they’ll want to make sure. And because people will be driven into fear by this,they’ll request and demand and insist on heavy controls from their governments, which will be

justified. And this is where you’re going to get the martial law situation in all the Western

countries. It’s intended as a justification.All of this is just the start of something, because this story gets much bigger, and it’s prettyhorrifying.

If watching this now you’re feeling a little bit shocked, this is how I was feeling when I heard thisinformation, and this is how our source was feeling when he was hearing this information in thismeeting – because this is just the beginning.

Now, during the time of the ceasefire, everyone’s shocked, everyone’s frightened, everyone’sreally terrified about where this is going to go. There are all kinds of heavy controls overpopulations everywhere.

And then the next thing that happens in this chess game that’s being played is that biological


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weapons are released on China. He heard this being discussed in this meeting.

They will release a flu-like virus that will be genetically targeted against the Chinese population.It’s racially targeted against the Chinese people. It’s designed to spread like wildfire and to knockout a large number of the Chinese people. And these people in this meeting were LAUGHINGabout this.

They said: China will catch a cold . Those were their words: China will catch a cold . And theywere laughing about the fact that these biological weapons will wreak havoc among the Chinesepopulation.

After that, then what effectively will be a kind of plague will actually spread right across the worldto the West as well. Our source was not clear whether this was a Chinese retaliation, or whetherthe thing would just spread out of control in the way that it would be very understandable if itdid, whether it’s racially targeted or not. These things actually mutate.

So now you’ve got a situation where there’s been a limited nuclear war in the Middle East;there’s a pandemic that really is sweeping across the world and really is killing people, veryvisibly; and you’ve got this totalitarian military lockdown in all the governments in the Westernworld, because everyone’s going to be in a panic about all of this.

And then , he said, then the real war starts – something that would be justifiably called the ThirdWorld War, with a much more major nuclear exchange.

At this point I asked him: Is this just about population reduction? What is this about? Why arethey doing this? Why this insane 'Dr. Strangelove' plan for just unleashing all of this stuff on theworld? Why do it?

As our conversation went on, I started to find answers to those questions. Now, some of this isspeculation, and I want to share this speculation with you because it’s important enough that wework together here to figure out what’s going on. There are some clues; there are some veryimportant clues that I’m going to present to you here in this video.

He said: Absolutely, it’s about population reduction .

So, I said: Well, in this meeting, did they mention any figures?

And he said: Yes, they did. Fifty percent.

Half the world’s population. This is planned, as per the Georgia Guidestones. For those of youwho don’t know what the Georgia Guidestones are, it’s a stone monument in Georgia, inAmerica, [Ed note: Elberton, Georgia] that was erected anonymously a number of years ago. It’sin eight languages, and it’s like an Illuminati manifesto for a “new world”, as it were. And justhold that thought about this being a manifesto for a new world. This is an important concepthere in what I’m presenting.

One of the key parts of this manifesto for this new world is that there shouldbe a population of 500 million people. Now, 500 million people is anenormous reduction from the nearly 7 billion that we’ve got at the moment.That’s pretty much 95% of people who would no longer be on this planet.And 50% is a step towards that, and there’s a reason why they’re doing all of this. There’s a

reason why they’re in a hurry. There’s a reason for this insanity.

And when he was explaining this, then he said that they have a name for this plan. This projecthas got a name . And I said: Well, what is this name?

He said: It is called the “Anglo-Saxon Mission”.

The Anglo-Saxon Mission . Now, I’d heard that before. It was something historical, I think, to dowith the Crusades quite a long time ago. But I hadn’t heard it in a present-day context, andneither had he. And later on, as he continued to tell his story, I began to understand what Ithought this might be about – hence the title of this video and the reason why I want to sharethis information with you, because we need to work together to figure out what’s going on here.It’s extremely important to understand.


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There’s a plan, I believe, that Hitler would be proud of, which is so evil, it’s so Machiavellian; it’sso hard to face up to. It’s so unbelievable that I need to put it on the table for you, so that youcan consider whether or not this might be a possibility.

The plans that I’ve been describing are definitely a possibility, because he heard them with hisown ears in this meeting, everything I’ve described up until now, up to and including the majoroutbreak, a major outbreak of hostilities, after the “limited war”.

So the sequence is as follows… the planned sequence is as follows: Israel attacks Iran, then

there’s a ceasefire during which time there is heavy governmental military controls overpopulations in all Western countries. Then China is attacked by a biological weapon. It’s a flu-likedisease, it spreads like wildfire, this goes all over the world, and then they have a major ThirdWorld War.

And then, by this time, 50% of the population will be destroyed – not only because of the war orthe plague, but because, as many of you watching this will understand, the infrastructure goesdown in situations like this: There’s no food in the supermarkets, there’s no gas in the pumps,the telecommunication goes down, there may not even be water coming out of the taps.

People are kind of thrown back into a Victorian era without the facilities to handle this, becausemost people don’t have their vegetable gardens. They don’t have their horse and cart. They’renot able to survive in the way that we used to be able to.

We’re very, very vulnerable in our technological advancement. We’re extremely vulnerable. Andof course the Controllers know this.

At this stage, our source was speculating about... Why are they in a hurry? Why do they want todo this?

And there’s a sort of heavy irony here, which is... like I was saying: Well, if you’re going to planthe Third World War, then why not take your time over it and get it right, and do a really good

job? You know, this could be in 20 years’ time or 30 years’ time, it doesn’t really matter . Whyare they in such a rush?

And our source said that he felt, from inside information he’s continued to receive, that this isstill timed for something around 18 months from now, and that puts it right about the middle of 2011.

He doesn’t know this for sure because these events aren’t calendar-driven; they’re actuallyevent-sequence-driven. In other words, this has got to happen before that happens, and thenafter that the next thing can happen, and then after that the next thing can happen. So a wholelot of things have got to be in place before all the dominoes fall over, so to speak, and they seemto be behind schedule in some of this.

There are some planned events that definitely haven’t happened. One of the things which Iremembered when I was hearing this story was that our source ‘Henry Deacon’… Many of youwho’ve watched Project Camelot videos and read their reports for the last three years will knowthat when we met Henry Deacon in 2006 , he said that in his own inside information was thatthere would be a war against China in 2008. And that didn’t happen.

And all this time... at that time it didn’t make any sense, and even now it didn’t make any sense.It’s like: Well, all right, but why do this? Why do this? Why do this?

Now, this was his [our source’s] answer... And our source is a pretty smart guy. He’s been inthe military. It’s a totally different story that he didn’t debrief in our audio transcript – which youhave the opportunity to read – but he’s had his own ET experiences in the military; he’s got hisown sources of information about some of the background for this.

He says that he’s as sure as he can be that the people who are calling the shots in the world –you can call them the Illuminati, the Controllers, the Cabal, whatever name you have for them –they believe that there is going to be what he called “a geophysical event”, a major geophysicalevent. He says that the best information that he’s got is that the insiders believe that this isgoing to happen, or they are concerned that this is going to happen.


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And many of you watching this will know that this isn’t a completely crazy idea. There have beentrillions of dollars that have been spent on deep underground bases for some reason, which wedon’t know why it is.

You all know about the Seed Bank in Svalbard – this is in the public domain – where all the seedsof all the plants and all the crops in the world have been buried deep inside a granite vault innorthern Norway. There are many precautions being taken as if something might happen thatcould really threaten some of these valuable resources, including the seed banks of the world.

Now, if there is going to be a geophysical event, as they believe, this is because it seems to be preserved Illuminati inside knowledge , whether it’s true or not, that there are repeated, cyclicalgeophysical events about every 11,500 years.

Information about what really happened to Atlantis was very probably in the Great Library of Alexandria that burnt down a couple of thousand years ago. There are persistent rumors thatmuch of that information has been retrieved and it’s in the Vatican Library.

This is information which is not in the public domain and which the insiders may have access to.Whether it’s accurate or not, the important thing is to realize that they probably believe that thiswill happen, and they’re making their precautions. And this might be the justification for thisinsanity that we’ve just heard about in this plan.

Consider this.

He said: If there’s going to be a major geophysical event, something like a Pole shift, maybe it’sPlanet X, maybe it’s some kind of energetic phenomenon that the Solar System is going to bemoving into that’s going to somehow destabilize the Earth or the Earth’s crust in some way...we don’t know.

But if there were to be a major emergency like that, something that would actually make a war look very inconsequential, the thing that will help the human race to survive it, or will help partsof the human race to survive it, is if there is already emergency preparedness in place before it happens.

In other words, if you knew that there was an emergency coming, if you knew, for instance, thatthere’s a hurricane coming in to hit your city, then you put all the emergency preparedness inplace beforehand. You have the troops ready, you have the infrastructure ready, you have themilitary ready; you have everything that you need ready to handle this situation, so you canrespond and react and recover in the best possible way.

Our source suggests that the reason for this whole Third World War scenario is that then theWestern governments, with the Chinese out of the way, will be in a state of such totalitariancontrol of their own population that they will be best-equipped to recover and rebuild the “newworld” after a cataclysm. And he thinks that this is what’s happening.

And I have to tell you that this terrible logic makes sense to me, that they would think that way.I’m not for a moment agreeing that this will happen. I think this is wild, crazy stuff, but if theybelieve that it’s going to happen, then this could be their justification for this kind of plan thatwe’ve heard about is really being discussed.

This, now, is my own speculation right now, which also makes sense to me, and I invite yourcomments and your thoughts about this. We need to work together to figure out what’shappening here.

It’s called the Anglo-Saxon Mission . What that told me was that the reason for the name isbecause this is a white racist agenda for the inheriting of the new Earth. It’s a plan that Hitlerwould be proud of.

If they think that a new Earth needs to be rebuilt, a “new world” – think of that little phrase there– if a “new world” needs to be rebuilt after a cataclysm, they want the Anglo-Saxons to be doingit. They don’t want the Chinese to be doing it.

They get the Chinese out of the way first, and then the Anglo-Saxons will inherit this “newworld,” with the other nations – the Asian nations, the African nations, the South American


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nations presumably – it is assumed that they won’t have the resources to be able to handle thesituation in any kind of a way that gives them the strength to recover after whatever it is thatthey think is going to occur.

So, there are several other parts of this which also fit. And one of the reasons why this is animportant presentation to make personally, it’s my own personal thoughts, because up until nowI’ve been following a lot of the well-founded research on these sorts of agendas; we’ve had ourown sources of information over the last three years.

But I’ve always had questions in my mind, like: Why would they do this? You know... war

against China? Why? Third World War? Why? And suddenly a lot of these things start to make alittle bit more sense.

It’s possible, for example, that when we heard from Jordan Maxwell, in our interview with himwhich we did at the end of last year, 2009, he described to us how he had researched a numberof repeating symbols and images that had been used ever since the time of Hitler, and even longbefore that, about “ The Dawn of a New Day .”

There’s something very important in Masonic and Illuminati thinking about The Dawn of a New Day , and here we have, possibly, the reason for their belief... that if you think about thepossibility of a cataclysm, if they think this is really going to happen...

The 2012 movie that many of you will have seen... after all of thefloods and all of the earthquakes and tsunamis, then you’ve gotthese big ships sailing across a calm sea with the sun streamingthrough the clouds, and you’ve got The Dawn of a New Day . Andthe implication in that movie is that now those people will be able

to rebuild the new Earth, because those are the survivors, this is the modern-day Noah’s Ark.It’s possible that The Dawn of the New Day , that it refers to that.

And it even occurred to me – and I’d be interested for other researchers to offer their views onthis – that the very term, The New World Order, that we first started to hear about 20 years ago,actually longer ago than that. But the New World might be the post-cataclysmic world – the New World . It might be the Order for the New World after the cataclysm.

They may be planning who will inherit the new world. It may be nothing less than this. Maybethis is what the New World Order is all about? It really is the order, the plan for The New World that they think is coming. They think this is going to happen.

Now, I say again, it’s very, very important to differentiate out all this information here. I don’tbelieve this is going to happen at all, but they might be doing something crazy to try andsafeguard what they believe is their own interests. This is what we need to be aware of here.

What I want to do is I want to just state really clearly why there are profound reasons for notbelieving that anything like this is going to happen. There are a lot of things that haven’thappened which were intended to happen.

Many of you will remember, I think it’s the 30th of August, 2007, there was a B-52 bomber thatflew halfway across America from Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana,with six armed nuclear cruise missiles on its wingtips – something that could never happen byaccident.

It was illegal, it should never have happened. You can’t even smuggle a bullet out of theweapons storage area in an Air Force base without there being a whole bunch of signatures andeverybody knowing about it, let alone making the “mistake” of loading armed cruise missilesonto a B-52 bomber with nobody noticing it.

There was a reason why that happened, and that was actually prevented from going any further.It stopped at Barksdale in Louisiana. Some very brave airmen blew the whistle on that and theydid their job and they reported it up the line. It appeared very, very briefly in the mainstreammedia and after that it was completely covered over and everyone said it was a mistake. Thatwas no mistake.

There was a reason why they did that, and what many of you don’t know is that at that same


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time at the end of August, a group of anonymous investors bet $2 billion dollars that the stockmarket would fall by 50% before the 21st of September 2007. They stood to gain $4.5 billiondollars if their bet had succeeded. These are what is known as Put Options. The insiders in thestock market, they call them “ Bin Laden Trades .” It’s a sort of ironic description because of thebetting that took place around about 9/11.

Okay, those people lost their bet; it didn’t work. The plan didn’t work. The stock market didn’tfall. The bomber never went any further and for all we know that was intended to be the start of the Third World War. It never happened. Okay?

We heard a few minutes ago, I was describing how Henry Deacon described that the war againstChina was meant to start in 2008. That didn’t happen. A lot of people thought that that wascrazy. A lot of people thought he was crazy... maybe he wasn’t. Maybe he heard something thatwas a real plan, but they’re two years behind schedule and maybe this will never happen at all.

There are a number of other things that may have been planned and which have nevertranspired.

It’s very interesting to think about the so-called Mexican flu outbreak, the swine flu outbreak. Forthe last six to nine months we’ve been looking at a scenario where it looked as if they wanted toroll out a lot of vaccinations, they wanted a lot of people to get ill, they wanted to announce apandemic. Even now there have been proposals to extend this pandemic declaration for anothertwo years – and nothing’s happening.

In England we call it a “storm in a teacup” – there’s nothing happening here, but maybesomething was intended.

Now, if it wasn’t intended, it’s possible that all of that could have been some kind of a test to seehow people respond, to see how people react, to see how quickly it spreads, to see what thetake-up of the vaccinations will be.

And then, of course, us at Project Camelot and a number of other people who have beenactivists in this whole area trying to draw attention to this, now we’re all in a database; theyknow who’s going to stand up and start talking about all of this stuff.

So it might have been an experiment, or it could have been a failed rollout of something.

There’s plenty of reason to believe that things are changing. This is the important thing. Those of you who have been following the work of David Icke – this is an important perspective here –because we support his work fully, inasmuch as he makes a beautiful presentation and he startsoff by saying: We are infinite consciousness. There are many ways to put this, but it’s very hardto disagree with that.

We’re immortal godlike beings who long ago have forgotten what our power was. The potentialof consciousness is enormous . It’s very important to realize that how powerful we are may bethe single most important component in this whole picture that enables us to save the day. Thismay be what it’s really all about.

Admiral George Hoover, who died in 1998 -- he was in the Office of Naval Intelligence in the USNavy -- he talked to researcher Bill Birnes, the editor of UFO Magazine , and Bill Birnes describedthis conversation with George Hoover to George Noory, from Coast to Coast AM .

What Admiral George Hoover told Bill Birnes was “the biggest secret,” according to what theAmerican Navy had found out... very, very interesting story.

They were talking about the Roswell visitors and Admiral George Hoover said that these visitorswere us from the future . They were time-travelers; they weren’t extraterrestrials. Now, otherresearchers and whistleblowers have spoken about the same thing, and this is fascinating initself.

But what Admiral George Hoover said “the biggest secret” really was... it had to do with theabilities and the power of the consciousness of these travelers. Because they were us from thefuture, what the military authorities had found out was what humans are really capable of.


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And he said that this had been buttoned up really tight, because if we knew how powerful wereally were, how powerful we really could be, then we would, in his own words, cause chaosaround us , and this could never be permitted. We could rearrange the reality around us in theway that we wanted to, in the way that – if this is real – that the future humans had learned howto do, which gives them access to these sorts of incredible abilities, such as time-traveling.

Col. Philip Corso, in his book The Day After Roswell , described in some detail how hisunderstanding was that the way the craft works was they were like an amplification of the pilots’ own consciousness. It was their consciousness. It was their ability to travel and bi-locate thatwas amplified by the craft, and that actually all of these abilities are basically abilities connected

with the consciousness of the beings themselves.

And if they are us ... this is the message for all of us here.

We’re being deliberately dumbed down. Our food is being poisoned, our children are being lied toin the schools, we are being fed propaganda in the media, we’re being forced into this tiny, littlebox. We’re being kept busy with game shows and ballgames, and we are discouraged fromreally finding out what it is that is our heritage on this planet.

Eric Von Däniken has just published a book which is called History is Wrong . There’s so muchwhich we are denied.

George Green describes that we are known as the “ useless eaters ”, this “ surplus population ” of billions of people, with a tiny number of people at the top of the heap who are dependent uponus to police each other, and to laugh at each other, and to stop each other from getting out of line because we’re encouraged to conform to how we’re meant to be.

So there’s this straightjacket that there is the opportunity for us to break out of, and it’s thisstraightjacket which has been deliberately put in place by these very people who have beencreating this plan.

Where this plan originates from is very interesting to speculate. Our source told us that this hasbeen in place for a long time. He first heard about the Anglo-Saxon Mission as long ago as 1976.The Illuminati symbolism about The Dawn of the New Day has been going on for a long time.

Many people think this plan requires such a superhuman level of intelligence and strategicunderstanding, and is so ruthless, and so cold, that the logic suggests – and David Icke saysthis, Jordan Maxwell says this, we say this ourselves with full agreement – that this didn’t comefrom a human source. People aren’t capable of doing this against other people. There’ssomething else behind this.

We have to think big. We have to think from the highest spiritual viewpoint that we possibly cando, that these people shouldn’t be fought .

What must happen is we just withdraw our consent from these things that are being done to us,from this plan that we are part of. And as I was saying just before, if you’re in the military or theintelligence services, withdraw your consent from this because these plans can’t happen withoutit.

There’s something about the Illuminati and the way that they’re operating that is very limited.They’re using force; they’re in a box; they’re trying to counter what everybody that I know is

recognizing and referring to as a huge expansion of consciousness all over the world, anexpansion of awareness.

We get emails every day from people, often very young people, who are saying: I can really seewhat’s happening in the world. Tell me what to do about this, but I’m ready, I’m ready to dosomething, I’m ready to do whatever it was that I came here for. I don’t know what that is yet,but I know that we’ve got big problems.

Twenty years ago people weren’t saying that kind of thing. There’s a huge rollout of some kindof an expansion of consciousness; it’s a morphic field that’s growing enormously and there’ssomething that’s changing.

My personal belief is that this is certainly being supported – certainly being supported – by


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benevolent nonhuman agencies, let me put it this way, who know about this kind of plan. Theydon’t know whether it’s going to happen or not, but they know it’s being planned.

A lot of contactees; there is some channeled information – we need to consider channeledinformation extremely carefully – but there is channeled information and there are contacteereports that all talk about scenarios like this and how we must be wary, how we must be careful,how we’ve got to guard against it, how we’ve got to insure against it, how we’ve got to beprepared for something like this.

It’s entirely possible that this increase in consciousness is happening in direct response with this

escalation of violent forceful plans.

It’s like, as I’ve often said in my own presentations in the past, it’s a little bit like a movie scriptitself where you’ve got everything building up to a climax, with the forces of evil and the forcesof consciousness just kind of getting ready for some kind of final confrontation.

Now, I’m not trying to be Biblical about this, and I know that this situation which I’ve just beendescribing is a little bit like the Armageddon war, but I do not believe that this kind of thing willactually come about, as I’ve said many times before.

There’s an interview which I did with Freedom Central which you will see on the Camelot site,where I say: The single strongest reason that I have for not believing that anything is fixed, that we’re all doomed, that anything really bad is going to happen – but I think we’ve got a lot of

problems to solve – is because I wouldn’t be here, and neither would you watching this now. I would have incarnated on another planet. I would have gone somewhere else. I’m not going togo and sit here in the firing-line with no possible way of escaping.

There’s a job to do here, and many of you watching this will be aware of the fact that we’re hereto do jobs. It’s what Dolores Cannon calls volunteers .

We may be here for a reason. We may be here to help catalyze this increase in consciousness,and that’s what’s going to prevent this kind of thing from happening. Because if we do not agreethat this is the future that we want, then that’s not what we’re going to experience. We do allco-create our reality. We do all have a part in it, and I profoundly believe that by becomingaware of these plans, this is the way that we avert them.

There’s a difference between prediction and prophecy . These are two words in the Englishlanguage that are easily confused with each other. Prediction and forecasting is saying: Okay, inthree months’ time this is what’s going to happen because this is what the data leads us toconclude logically. That’s all about forecasting and prediction.

A prophet does something different and it’s a word to be used with care because it’s oftenmisused, it’s often misunderstood, and it’s like a Biblical term, and some people react against itfor that reason.

But what a prophet always used to do is to say: Listen, if we don’t wake up and if we don’t takeaction, then this is what’s going to happen .

And the purpose of the prophet giving this prophetic warning is not to warn people that it will happen, but to say: Listen, you’ve got to change something here. You’ve got to change the way you’re doing things. You’ve got to change the way that you’re being. You’ve got to change the

way you’re interacting with each other. You’ve got to change your whole attitude.

Whatever it is that you change, then the purpose of the change is so that this prophesied eventdoesn’t happen.

And so, what we have here is we have a kind of prophesy. It’s not a prediction... and I’m usingthis word very, very carefully because the reason why I’m making this statement, the reasonwhy we’re releasing this information, is to make sure that this doesn’t happen.

What are we going to do with this information? It’s going to be translated into every languagethat we can. The video is going to be subtitled in Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Spanish, every othermajor language.


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I want this video to be picked up by the Chinese. I want this to be escalated up the line. TheChinese are very sensitive about videos that refer to them, especially ones with Chinesesubtitles. This will be reported right up the line to Chinese Intelligence, to the Chinese militarycommanders.

The reason for that is because, first of all, if this is nonsense, it doesn’t matter. Okay? But if thisis a really serious threat, then those are the guys who need to know about it, because their firstnuclear response – which is designed to be provoked – is the thing that actually sets this wholething on fire.

So, to any Chinese military commanders who are listening to this: Don’t do it! Okay? None of usmust do anything here that is in alignment with their plans.

There’s a wonderful scene in the Avatar movie that I love so much, which is when the womanhelicopter pilot who was ordered to fire her weapons at the big tree [Ed note: The Tree of Souls]... she’s just about to fire, and then she says: I didn’t sign up for this , and then she turnsaround and she goes home. She’s not going to be part of this.

There are many people in the military who never signed up for anything like this. There are manypeople in the intelligence services, they never signed up for anything like this. They signed upwhen they were young, thinking that they were doing the best thing for their country, thinkingthey were doing the best thing for mankind. They are not all evil at all.

So, as a direct message to those of you in the military and the intelligence services who may bewatching this or may have had this brought to their attention: You don’t have to do this stuff just because you were told . You need to support what’s best for the human race.

You don’t need to follow orders if it’s going to lead to the huge destruction here, which is in noone’s interest apart from the controllers who have an agenda of their own.

And that agenda doesn’t feature you and me... that’s for sure.

Okay. So that’s the end of my presentation. I want you to consider this information. I’m noturging you to believe it. I want you to research it. I want you to check it out. I want you to readthe transcript carefully, and I want you to see whether this correlates with anything else that youknow and understand that has come to your attention.

We’re all working together here; we’re not trying to force you to believe anything at all. We needto be careful about this information, but at the same time if there’s any chance that this is true, if there’s any chance that this is for real, then we have to know about it. Okay?

If you are not sure what it is that you should be doing, then I say the same thing that I alwayssay, which is: Do whatever it is that you came here to do , because most of you watching thisvideo are here for a reason. I do understand that you may not know what the reason is yet, butyou’re probably here for a reason. You’re probably watching this video for a reason. Dowhatever it is that you came here to do.

This is Bill Ryan, Project Avalon/Project Camelot. It’s the 16th of February, 2010.

Thank you.

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[recording of Bill Birnes speaking with George Noory on Coast to Coast AM]:

GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these wereextraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from theOffice of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – whosaid that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he knew ,that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same


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powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulatereality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how touse it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that theNavy eventually found out.

[ending music: John Lennon singing IMAGINE]

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